Red Ice TV - April 09, 2022


ADL's Greenblatt Is A 'Free Speech' Believer - That's Why He Is Nervous About Elon's Twitter Move


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

160.20338

Word Count

2,195

Sentence Count

184

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

In this episode, we discuss Elon Musk's new position on the board of Twitter, Joe Rogan's new job on the National Review, and the ADL's new stance on anti-Semites. We also discuss the possibility of a return of free speech on social media.


Transcript

00:00:00.120 Let's talk about Elon Musk.
00:00:03.280 Twitter, right, he bought a big share in Twitter, 9.7% of the stock.
00:00:08.100 He's now on the board of Twitter.
00:00:09.560 Twitter stock went up.
00:00:11.920 He actually made a lot of money on this, right?
00:00:14.780 And apparently he said this on Mark Zuckerberg's feed on Facebook.
00:00:20.020 He said, can I buy Facebook?
00:00:23.320 But make of that what you will.
00:00:24.640 I do see some people that are kind of excited about this.
00:00:27.780 They're like, you know, oh, my God, this is a little bit.
00:00:32.300 Free speech is going to be brought back to Twitter, right?
00:00:36.120 That's not going to happen.
00:00:37.460 It's just some people have said, oh, he's going to let Trump back on there.
00:00:44.320 Oh, it's going to be great.
00:00:45.220 You know, people are still banned.
00:00:46.960 It's not going to.
00:00:48.500 Maybe something slightly will change.
00:00:51.220 And it's like if that does happen, sure, I'll take it or whatever.
00:00:54.980 You know what I mean?
00:00:55.680 This is the guy who's going to save us.
00:00:57.860 He's going to be he's secretly woke.
00:00:59.820 He's going on Joe Rogan.
00:01:01.560 This guy, he'll fix things for us.
00:01:05.200 I do enjoy.
00:01:06.000 I do have to say I do enjoy seeing.
00:01:09.180 The.
00:01:10.940 The green blatt over at the ADL.
00:01:14.980 Yeah, anti-white defamation league.
00:01:19.380 Kivetch about this.
00:01:20.700 Listen to this.
00:01:21.240 What is that here?
00:01:22.080 Jonathan, you've been quite outspoken about the responsibility that you think social media companies should have.
00:01:29.180 To some degree, you would argue or I would argue, I think that Elon Musk thinks they've gone too far and wants to roll them back.
00:01:34.760 It's hard for, I think, any of us to really ascertain what's going on in Elon's brain.
00:01:41.440 I admire him as a businessman.
00:01:43.220 Tremendous.
00:01:44.140 Let me go back there.
00:01:45.040 He says that for a reason.
00:01:49.640 He feels that it's his right to be in people's brains to really know what they're thinking.
00:01:54.800 Because anywhere around the corner, there might be some anti-Semite that's hiding.
00:02:04.360 Listen to that.
00:02:05.100 He feels that it's his right to know what's in your brain.
00:02:11.280 That's what that means.
00:02:12.260 When he says that, and when and if he has the means to look in your brain, I'm serious, with, like, technology or whatever, they'll do that.
00:02:22.760 And it will be their right to have access to that information, what people really think and feel.
00:02:28.700 I would argue, I think, that Elon Musk thinks they've gone too far and wants to roll them back.
00:02:34.620 It's hard for, I think, any of us to really ascertain what's going on in Elon's brain.
00:02:39.040 I mean, I admire him as a businessman tremendously.
00:02:42.760 Of course you do.
00:02:43.360 Because how much money did he not make, right?
00:02:45.200 What he's done as an entrepreneur, as an innovator, is almost, you know, without parallel.
00:02:51.060 He's an extraordinary person in so many ways.
00:02:53.900 And look, I am a capitalist.
00:02:56.440 Remember that, too.
00:02:57.480 He's an extraordinary person.
00:02:58.720 We'll return to that later.
00:02:59.620 But listen to his capitalist comment here.
00:03:01.100 This is classic.
00:03:02.480 Like, of course you are, Jonathan.
00:03:04.720 Without parallel.
00:03:06.280 He's an extraordinary person in so many ways.
00:03:09.100 And look, I am a capitalist.
00:03:11.040 This is how capitalism works.
00:03:12.920 He has the right.
00:03:14.200 Just remember that.
00:03:15.620 We'll listen to the rest of the clip.
00:03:16.520 But just remember that.
00:03:18.800 This is how capitalism works.
00:03:21.760 I'm a capitalist.
00:03:22.560 In so many ways.
00:03:24.000 And look, I am a capitalist.
00:03:25.920 This is how capitalism works.
00:03:27.740 He has the right to buy a share of the company.
00:03:29.780 And what you were saying just a few minutes ago, maybe this is a standstill agreement.
00:03:33.300 Where they've reached some kind of detente.
00:03:35.240 I don't know.
00:03:36.640 But I really disagree with what Joe said earlier.
00:03:39.260 I don't think it's about censorship.
00:03:41.460 I believe in freedom of speech.
00:03:43.340 The ADL is a civil rights organization.
00:03:44.820 Oh, my God.
00:03:47.640 Can you be any more obnoxious?
00:03:49.520 Can you be any more lying, you slimy creature?
00:03:52.780 Holy crap.
00:03:54.000 This is just, I mean, this is amazing.
00:03:56.600 This is what they, this is the image they have of themselves.
00:03:59.580 Yeah, I'm a free market capitalist who believe in free speech.
00:04:03.200 I disagree with what Joe said earlier.
00:04:05.360 I don't think it's about censorship.
00:04:06.860 I believe in freedom of speech.
00:04:09.480 The ADL is a civil rights organization.
00:04:11.320 But I don't believe in freedom of reach.
00:04:13.540 And the same way you get to choose your guests, the same way National Review gets to choose
00:04:18.020 its contributors, I think Twitter gets to choose who it privileges and who it doesn't
00:04:23.340 privilege.
00:04:24.580 I think there should be a lunatic fringe.
00:04:26.920 We should just keep it on the fringe and not algorithmically amplify it, whether it's
00:04:32.120 Russian propagandists, alt-right crazy people, you know, violent anti-Zion.
00:04:38.180 The alt-right has lived rent-free in this guy's head for, I mean, since 2014.
00:04:43.560 I mean, before that, it was different configurations and stuff like that, right?
00:04:46.140 But this is truly what these people obsess about.
00:04:49.620 Oh, Russian propaganda.
00:04:51.120 Yeah, alt-right crazies.
00:04:52.940 Yeah, because you're the normal one, Jonathan.
00:04:55.220 You're the one who believe in capitalism and free speech.
00:04:57.820 And you're just a good guy trying to solve, you know, tick them all and fix a broken
00:05:01.520 world, right?
00:05:02.000 Keep it on the fringe and not algorithmically amplify it.
00:05:05.420 Do what I say or else.
00:05:08.700 Whether it's Russian propagandists, alt-right crazy people, you know, violent anti-Zionists,
00:05:16.100 all of them deserve a place.
00:05:18.080 Yeah, I mean, chat, I mean, I'll try.
00:05:19.780 Yeah, I mean, I'll try.
00:05:20.920 It's not really a thing anymore, but we know what he means when he says that, right?
00:05:23.800 He hasn't kept up with terminology changes and the fact that certain things have broken
00:05:27.900 apart.
00:05:28.580 I mean, look, they study us.
00:05:29.680 I'm not saying that.
00:05:30.220 But like, we know what he means when he says that he means anybody that they are out to
00:05:35.360 targeting the white people that don't want to be replaced and refuse to bow down to global
00:05:41.160 homeowner.
00:05:41.560 That's what he means.
00:05:42.280 Do that through a sort of free, a quote unquote free marketplace, which is companies decide,
00:05:47.240 or do you want to do that by way of law in Washington?
00:05:52.480 Well, I think the companies like the social media platforms should simply obey the same
00:05:56.900 rules of business that other publishers do.
00:05:59.380 They should be liable if they publish liable.
00:06:03.040 It's pretty simple.
00:06:03.860 Okay, but they're not the publishers, though.
00:06:06.700 I mean, they are in a way now because now they're the arbiter of truth, such as Facebook and
00:06:10.800 stuff, right?
00:06:11.240 That that would now they I agree that says that they are becoming publishers.
00:06:14.240 But he yeah, he basically wants to say if anybody posts anything that we don't like or we don't
00:06:20.680 agree with, they need that they need to shut it down.
00:06:23.020 They were there.
00:06:23.880 It's true.
00:06:24.380 That's their word.
00:06:25.220 They're not going to get what they think that this might lead to.
00:06:27.960 But this is just a little this is just to police people enough to smack him back in place.
00:06:32.740 I don't think anything's going to happen here with this with some kind of free speech thing
00:06:37.220 on Twitter that we're not doing that.
00:06:40.180 Okay, Tucker needs to go.
00:06:43.060 Elon Musk needs to be roped back in.
00:06:45.120 Not that he needs to because he's already roped in.
00:06:47.680 We'll get to that in a moment.
00:06:48.740 They should be liable if they publish liable.
00:06:52.160 It's pretty simple.
00:06:53.700 Yeah, because you never do that on your website, ADL.
00:06:56.080 You never got any shows and shit on people.
00:06:58.160 Now, that's never happened.
00:06:59.140 But like the bottom line, I would say.
00:07:00.940 And it's immediate, it's litigious and suing people and do using the.
00:07:05.440 But just one thing, right?
00:07:07.300 Think about that, right?
00:07:08.440 You know this guy.
00:07:09.400 He's targeting financial institutions.
00:07:12.460 If not ADL, there's an adjacent organization that targeted our credit card processors.
00:07:18.620 They've contacted banks.
00:07:20.080 They've contacted clearinghouses such as First Data, many of these, which basically have locked
00:07:25.060 us out from like the majority of the market, basically, right?
00:07:28.480 But the target, this is not a free market, not that that would be the best thing ever or
00:07:33.900 whatever, but I'm just saying they can't even adhere to their supposed philosophies
00:07:37.640 that they tout, right?
00:07:39.760 Remember this?
00:07:41.020 ADL threatens Steam for not censoring gamers' speech pressers' company to sever ties, right?
00:07:46.760 This is their expertise.
00:07:48.400 Boycott.
00:07:48.760 What we need is a big goy-cott of not only this organization, but so many of them that
00:07:54.640 are tied to them and listen to them and all these kinds of things, right?
00:07:58.120 And one of the reasons why I pulled this article out, remember that in Iceland, and we're kind
00:08:02.420 of running short of time in a way here, so I'm going to try to hurry up a little bit on
00:08:05.860 this.
00:08:06.000 Basically, to condense it down, this is the definition of torturous interference, right?
00:08:14.140 The ADL similarly threatened the entire country of Iceland after they moved to institute a ban
00:08:22.800 on male child genital mutilation by suggesting that they would use their closed media relationship
00:08:31.160 to smear the nation of Iceland as being associated with Nazism to damage their tourism industry.
00:08:41.760 This is an actual threatening letter that this guy wrote to the tourist board of Iceland
00:08:52.060 to threaten them with financial boycott.
00:08:55.300 This is your free-market capitalist right here who believes in freedom of speech.
00:09:02.600 We write to offer three compelling reasons against the adoption of a ban on male circumcision.
00:09:10.260 Do you guys remember this story?
00:09:12.940 Religious trade and medical benefit, blah, blah, blah, and they read this.
00:09:16.400 This is the last thing I read about it, right?
00:09:18.680 ADL has studied the pervasiveness of anti-Semitic content on social media, and we know that
00:09:25.220 a relatively small number of extremists, yet they're so worried about this, they're willing
00:09:29.720 to knock out a country's entire economy.
00:09:32.600 Hmm.
00:09:33.180 But these extremists, supposedly, are able to amplify their message quickly and broadly through
00:09:38.580 social media.
00:09:40.400 ADL regularly reports on such phenomena, and we will report on extremist praise for Iceland.
00:09:46.680 We urge you to consider...
00:09:49.680 Nice country you have there.
00:09:51.980 There would be a shame if something would happen to it.
00:09:57.420 That's basically what this guy is saying right here.
00:10:01.400 We urge you to consider the significant media attention in the United States and internationally.
00:10:09.060 Pay to ADL reports on extremism.
00:10:11.380 But in the past six months alone, our research and experts have been featured on CNN and other
00:10:17.320 cable TV news channels, NBC and other broadcast TV, on 60 Minutes, the most watched TV news
00:10:25.620 magazine in America, and in leading newspapers, including the New York Times and the Washington
00:10:32.220 Post.
00:10:33.520 Given that...
00:10:34.320 Here's that kicker at the end, right?
00:10:35.760 Given that 28% of Iceland's tourists came from North America in 2016, Iceland's standing
00:10:45.660 in the U.S. should be of great concern from an economic perspective.
00:10:51.560 This is Jonathan Greenblatt here, the free market capitalist who believes in free speech.
00:10:55.920 If you refuse not to let us do male general mutilation, we'll target your economy and knock
00:11:09.440 it out.
00:11:10.400 Because we just control the strings of not only all these media companies in America, but
00:11:15.520 even the American people through the media.
00:11:17.820 That's basically what he's saying right here.
00:11:19.600 It's incredible.
00:11:20.580 But yeah, but, you know, but anti-Semitism, right?
00:11:28.300 We are confident that the vast majority of American tourists will avoid a country whose
00:11:33.740 reputation is associated with Nazism, even if that association is not justified.
00:11:41.540 So even if we fucking lie, if we lie about it and we make it up, they will still adhere to
00:11:49.480 it, they will follow, well, we can collapse your entire country's economy.
00:11:53.160 That's what he's saying here.
00:11:55.320 This is a Jewish mob boss speaking, ladies and gentlemen.
00:12:00.420 That's what this is, is a Jewish mafia, the ADL.
00:12:05.280 Okay?
00:12:05.600 And they're threatening entire countries.
00:12:08.200 What?
00:12:08.800 With what?
00:12:10.200 Destroying their economy by means of controlling the media.
00:12:14.260 That's basically what this guy's admitting right here.
00:12:16.360 Yeah, but Jewish supremacism doesn't exist, though.
00:12:21.040 No, no, no.
00:12:21.460 That's just a crazy, that's the, that's some kind of elders of Zyklon, you know, conspiracy
00:12:28.200 or whatever, right?
00:12:29.520 Oh, yeah.
00:12:30.080 Oh, yeah.
00:12:30.400 Of course.
00:12:31.020 So here's the, here's your free market capitalist speaking, right?
00:12:36.640 Got another little Jew in the oven?
00:12:40.680 I don't know what that was.
00:12:41.700 What was that?
00:12:42.180 All right, so let's switch, let's switch over now.
00:12:46.160 These, these Seth Rogen, these people, what are they doing?
00:12:49.140 What are they up to?
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