00:49:58.600So there's, so there's a lot of people, so there's a lot of people, so there's a lot of
00:50:28.580going on, but they're a lot of people that they've had, they're a lot of people, so there's a lot of people, so there's a lot of people who's just took it on right back.
00:50:37.720My point is, why I bring it up, is that comment that he made there about like, well, a boat showed up 500 years ago.
00:50:43.840So now, therefore, who cares? It's ours now.
00:50:50.300I was actually, I visited Lanzo Meadows in North Newfoundland, which is the archaeological site of Leif Erikson and the other settlers a thousand years ago.
00:51:05.040And that's in Newfoundland, but they found some remains in the archaeological site.
00:51:11.660They found some vegetation and some plants and so on that belong further south in America.
00:51:18.300So it's obvious that the place in Lanzo Meadows has been a sort of a place where they stayed over winter or a place where they stopped for further explorations.
00:51:30.960They didn't stop there because they were there for decades in that area.
00:51:38.440So obviously, if you went there to explore, you didn't just stop in Lanzo Meadows.
00:51:43.520So that was sort of a place where they also have finds from further south.
00:51:48.800So it's obvious that the Norse went further south as well.
00:52:43.840But it was the same thing there that you saw.
00:52:47.180They threw a MAGA hat on some, you know, kind of, as you said, a mixed native or something.
00:52:53.420You know, like, wouldn't you love to be part of America?
00:52:56.940And it was like, yeah, it would be great.
00:52:58.920And, you know, the propaganda videos like that started coming out that they would rather be with America than with Denmark, right?
00:53:05.440Yeah, I mean, and this is also, you know, is this how you behave toward a country that you're allied with?
00:53:12.700I mean, what if, I mean, Alaska used to belong to Russia.
00:53:15.980What if the Russians came in and offered the American citizens who live in Alaska to say that, well, we're going to give you $100,000 each if you vote to secede from the United States.
00:53:28.420If you vote to break away or if China came in and offered the people who live in Alaska to say that, well, if you break away from the United States, we're going to give you $100,000 each so we can exploit your oil resources or whatever.
00:53:46.980I mean, obviously, this is a hostile act that's just completely unacceptable to offer to bribe citizens of another country to vote a certain way, to break away from the country that they're citizens of.
00:54:37.740But the point is, obviously, that will lead the more interesting discussion that follows on from that is the breakdown then of the relationship between, like, again, what happens internally with NATO, right?
00:54:50.920Of, like, one country attacking, like, can you trigger Article 5 now?
00:54:56.800I haven't even read up on that of what actually would happen.
00:54:59.040Again, I don't think it will go that far, but I'm saying it's an interesting, you know, theoretical exercise, I guess.
00:55:05.620What would happen and would that mean that it's useless then?
00:55:11.620Could this lead to further breakdown, I guess, in the relationship between maybe not just the EU in America, but, like, European nations internally in the EU to, like, we can't deal with America like this anymore.
00:55:25.060This is just an unstable partner to have.
00:55:32.560And I've made this point many times that, you know, some people say, no, I don't think that America will attack, you know, with military force.
00:55:39.740Well, if I were a betting man, I don't think they will either, but that doesn't matter.
00:55:43.940It's like if I say, you know, I like your car.
00:55:49.260Well, you know, I could always break into your garage and burn down your garage and maybe kill one of your family members and steal your car.
00:55:56.880Well, if you said that, I wouldn't, I would, you know, that would determine a little bit how I treat you.
00:56:02.620You know, that would determine our relationship.
00:56:04.820And so already, by what America has already done, I think there's a lot of damage that has already happened, even if nothing else happens, even if there's no further escalation from here.
00:56:16.220And even if, you know, America doesn't send any troops to Greenland in hostile actions, the hostile actions that have already happened should lead European countries to think once or twice before relying on America for any kind of security agreements and so on.
00:56:37.880I mean, America is in the weapons business, selling weapons.
00:56:41.540Are you going to buy weapons from a country that behaves like that to you?
00:56:44.040I mean, so there are, I think when people talk about this, that, you know, the U.S. could take Greenland with military force, they talk about it as if it's an isolated event in a vacuum.
00:56:56.720It happens in the context of many kinds of different relationships that are affected by this behavior.
00:57:02.380So I think that, you know, after Trump is out of office, whenever that happens, I think the next president is going to have a lot of cleaning up to do to sort of try to fix relationships with other countries because he's really broken a lot of stuff.
00:57:16.720But, you know, like I said earlier, I don't think we should forget that this in many ways benefits us because we have to sort of think seriously about our own security again, which is a very, very good thing.
00:57:28.520And then I do, I do want to kind of give, I'm not sure if it's credit because I don't know what's behind this.
00:57:37.420I feel there's a lot of things kind of behind the scenes percolating.
00:57:41.620But I do appreciate when Vance goes to European leaders and tells them that like you have a problem with migration, for example, which they did recently.
00:57:50.380I think even Trump's talked about like the European civilization is in danger because you've let in all these people and it will cease to be Europe.
00:57:57.280So that's good to have those discussions kind of internally in European politics or at least, if nothing else, make them acceptable talking points, right, for the European elites.
00:58:06.860Like you've got to address these issues or you're in deep trouble.
00:58:09.760At the same time, I'm not sure if this is some type of long game of, let's say, let's, if you look at the whole historical picture, the dependency then that Europe has had on America, right, in terms of its defense, whatever, has obviously prevented Europe from then investing in its own defense.
00:58:24.320And they've been relying on America as just its umbrella.
00:58:26.740So to have that separation is good to get Europe to stand on its own two feet.
00:58:32.420At the same time, although just like you, I'm not a big fan of Putin at all.
00:58:36.620I don't, you know, it's just they're doing some cringe, crazy shit, right, comments about how the West is racist and they're joining in in the choir on this, you know, anti-Western narratives that we already have in the West, right?
00:58:49.460They've joined in on that, kind of backed that up to a certain extent.
00:58:51.940But at the same time, I'm also, I do admit that I'm worried that if America then basically just kind of pulls out from that of the security agreements, I'm not saying NATO will fall apart tomorrow.
00:59:40.440And here we are kind of sort of standing with our pants down, almost being pushed into another conflict with a Russia who has a war economy and they're already rolling.
00:59:54.160Yeah, I think that if there's a drastic, sudden change that undermines the European security structure, then of course Russia could exploit that.
01:00:07.520I mean, Russia's goal, Russia's geopolitical goal is to break up NATO, of course, so that they can deal with, you know, one country at a time because, you know, some small country in Eastern Europe is easier to deal with if they're not part of a big military alliance.
01:00:23.100And so I can definitely see that if there is major tension between NATO countries, that is, if America is in conflict with another NATO country in Europe, then Russia could exploit that weak moment and, for example, just invade a little part of Latvia, for example, or something.
01:00:46.960And, you know, at a time when everyone doubts the loyalty of the other countries and the alliance, we could see, okay, will the other countries come to Latvia's aid if Russia invades now?
01:01:33.160So, you know, I completely understand the German leaders, the British leader, and the French leader when they say, look, I mean, it's actually possible that war can happen again because we can see it now.
01:01:45.440And our security alliance is called into question here.
01:02:35.020Yeah, it was this cover, was it Bildt, I think, had it, like a very young German boy.
01:02:41.880I think it was like, would you fight for Germany?
01:02:44.320It's almost like there's, you know, it's kind of like what they did in Ukraine of sorts, right?
01:02:48.580Like they've spent decades undermining nationalistic sentiments in most European countries, partially because of, you know, quote-unquote European integration, as they call it, which really is disintegration, right?
01:03:03.200But then all of a sudden, when it's politically expedient, then they're like, oh, no, actually, you totally can be a nationalist now and go fight for us and die in another—I'm not saying it's totally pointless, but from the point of view of where we are at in terms of the demographic situation in Europe, the decline in birth rates and stuff, can you imagine the chaos?
01:03:24.720I mean, Ukraine is going through that now.
01:03:26.180I think we've seen so many of their young men being killed in the battlefield, and I think I saw—I don't think I covered it in detail.
01:03:33.460We've mentioned it, but, like, you're seeing kind of these rumors now internally in Ukraine where, like, yeah, we're going to have to bring in the migrants now to make up for the loss of the men that we have had in the conflict with Russia.
01:03:44.620And so they're reaching out to India and, I forget, some African countries or whatever to basically replace the men with foreigners in Ukraine, which is devastating.
01:03:53.780And, of course, from the elite's point of view, maybe they would love to have a situation like that, where more European countries go and kill each other in a senseless war just to be replaced by third-worlders later.
01:04:06.560Well, yeah, I mean, there was a headline in Russia Today and RT a couple of weeks ago that Russia will import unlimited migrants from India to replace all the casualties because they've had hundreds of thousands of casualties in their invasion of Ukraine.
01:04:29.420So now they're going to, you know, to fill all the needs in the workforce and so on.
01:04:35.420The literal word that they used in RT was unlimited numbers.
01:04:40.940Russia imports, welcomes unlimited numbers of Indian workers.
01:04:44.960And, I mean, yeah, this is a consequence.
01:04:47.320It's an absolutely horrific consequence of that war.
01:04:53.700But, you know, that's what's happening.
01:04:55.560And just like you said, I think it's very important here to also underline the fact that the hypocrisy of the leaders of Europe, because they're seeing now that, okay, no one wants to defend their country.
01:05:09.200They have asked Germans, they've asked others, if your country is invaded, will you fight to defend your country?
01:05:17.840Well, because people who have been patriotic, who have said that national sovereignty and national borders are important, they have been punished, they have been harassed, they have been persecuted, they have been canceled, they have been harassed in the mass media, they have been fired from their jobs, they have been unbanked.
01:05:34.840There are so many ways in which people have been harassed and persecuted in Europe, in America and other countries for simply saying that, yeah, you know, we should defend our countries.
01:05:47.200And so are these political leaders now surprised when people say, no, I don't want to actually defend my country?
01:06:19.460And, yeah, the NATO issue is actually a part of that.
01:06:24.000But it must be, it just, as much as I wish for this, like, you know, well, maybe we can kind of convert the EU to being a pro-European, or maybe we can use NATO as an international, because, I mean, it is true geopolitically that the dynamic situation as well, right?
01:06:42.700That one of the reasons, and I'm not sure we've touched on that in great detail, and so this could be an opportunity to do that, would Russia or China or whatever, would they be the ones that would seek to take over Greenland instead then by force or something, right?
01:06:59.080The BRICS countries or, you know, the Global South, as they create a larger bloc with more influence, more, a bigger economy, and they would have the power to do that as to, like, the European Western world.
01:07:10.600Although it's occupied, although it's working on behalf of other interests, it's still at least outwardly, symbolically, I guess, maybe that's the term, symbolically a decline of the West, right?
01:07:22.860And that also means that we would not, as Europeans, do, I mean, it might be bad to have America's boot on our necks, but it wouldn't be any better to have Russia's boot on our necks or China's boot on our necks.
01:07:33.720It could be far worse, in fact, right?
01:07:35.680So, you know, I want an alliance, but goddammit, can we just, can we clean it up as well so it actually works for our interest?
01:07:43.960You see the difficulty in the situation, right?
01:07:49.300I don't think that China is really a military threat in that sense of, especially, like, going after Greenland or something like that.
01:07:57.180I think China works more through sort of long-term, stable investments and building infrastructure and things like that, rather than sort of a military occupation.
01:08:09.420There's always been a little bit of competition with Russia in the Arctic area around, well, north of Scandinavia and so on.
01:08:16.760There's always been some sort of little skirmishes or little conflicts there.
01:08:23.140But Greenland, I mean, there's no threat against Greenland.
01:08:26.140Greenland already is protected, like you showed on the maps before.
01:08:30.560The U.S. had many military bases and military installations there before and during the Cold War, and it has reduced them to one now because it's not needed.
01:08:38.360And we already have the protection that's needed for Greenland.
01:08:44.420But the wider point about NATO and about European security, it's clear that the American view on security concerns and the threat assessment and European security concerns and threat assessment are not identical, are not the same.
01:09:03.120So we need to have a different kind of military structure in Europe that is more independent of the U.S.
01:09:14.340And it's not because we should be in conflict with the U.S. or anything like that.
01:09:18.500It's because we have different assessment of security threats.
01:09:22.820Well, that too, but also then, at least on the paper before, Europe is a key ally to America, right?
01:09:32.840So these contradicting things, again, go back to that headline.
01:09:36.660Trump warns Europe faces civilizational erasure with EU and unrestricted mass immigration to blame.
01:09:42.320J.D. Vance goes over to talks to European leaders and like, you're banning your own citizens from speech and you're horrible on going after.
01:09:50.980They didn't say nationalist, but it's kind of like veiled language in that way that like you're going after dissidents and things like this, right?
01:09:58.820And like you'd think in America's interest then, even from their strategic point of view of national security, that like, no, in fact, we need a strong Europe and they need to build up their defenses and they need to be on our side.
01:10:10.080Now it's almost like this, again, it's almost like, is there a third party in there to separate the relationship between America and Europe to make them both equally weak?
01:10:22.500I mean, here's the problem with the approach that the Trump administration has had is that they don't want to be part of what goes on in Europe, but they still want to sort of call the shots.
01:10:32.980They still want to tell European countries what to do.
01:10:36.120So they don't want to have any skin in the game, but they want to tell European countries and European leaders what to do.
01:10:42.180And so, and that's what sort of doesn't work.
01:10:45.640So I think that the best outcome for us, the best outcome is if there is more of a separation between the U.S. and Europe, but we still have a friendly relationship, of course.
01:10:58.960We still have at some, on some level, a military alliance as well.
01:11:06.560I'm happy to have that as well, but we should be definitely more independent from American military power.
01:11:15.260So, I mean, in that sense, Donald Trump is right that the U.S. should pull out of Europe more and should reduce their presence in U.S. troops and military bases in Europe.
01:11:28.780So, and European countries need to start taking their own defense issues seriously again.
01:11:38.080And then, of course, America is weakened too.
01:11:40.840It's weakened economically, $37 trillion in debt with just like insane interest rates increasing all the time, right?
01:11:46.980At the same time, they're willing to splurge out, what was it, checking notes, $700 billion to just, you know, to buy Greenland or whatever.
01:11:55.720So it's got to be worth something, right?
01:11:57.280But it's almost like this, as your weak appear strong, like that's kind of what I'm feeling at the same time, right?
01:12:04.360We've got to show the rest of the world that we're still doing this kind of thing.
01:12:07.700And it's like, look at your own, look at some of your war zones in some of your own cities.