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- July 31, 2022
Askr Svarte - The Rise of Pagan Traditionalism in Modern Times
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, I'm Lana. My guest, Asker Svart, is a notable Russian
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pagan intellectual. He's written a two-volume book that you must read. It's called Polmos,
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The Dawn of Pagan Traditionalism. It was originally published in Russian, but you can
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read it in English. It leaves no stone unturned in relation to the true essence of European paganism
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and how it relates to us in the modern world today. And there's a reason why
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there's a great resurgence of pagan traditionalism in the modern era. So, welcome, Asker.
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Welcome, everyone, and thank you for your invitation for me.
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Yeah, thank you for your work. Much was actually unfamiliar to me. I mean, I'm a Slav. I have
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Russian ancestors. And so, you highlighted a lot of different authors and thinkers,
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several I heard of, but there was a lot that I hadn't heard of, which gives us a lot of goodies
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to dig into. So, it's been a while since I enjoyed a book this much. So, thank you. I appreciate that.
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Even if some things were lost in translation, we're still getting the essence of it.
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And I noticed, too, I just want to give a shout-out to those in your book as well,
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because at the very core of your work lies a spirit of Italian thinker Julius Evola, right,
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who established traditionalism. I'm a big fan of myself. Oswald Spanger, Nietzsche, Martin Heidegger.
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Also, you stand on the shoulders of Alain de Benoit in his book on being a pagan. He's still alive,
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so I still need to get him on the show. But you are of German roots, right, in Siberia. So,
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tell us that story.
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In Siberia, a lot of Germans, but all of them were exited from so-called Volga Deutsche
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and Bissarabian Deutsche, or Ukrainian Deutsche, who lived on other bank of river Gnester.
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It's near-modern Odessa. Anyway, it's an umbrella term of Bissarabian Deutsche. And my ancestors
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were exited from this land before and during the Second World War, because they were Germans,
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and Soviet Union was in war with Third Reich. So, a lot of people were moved into Siberia,
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into the North Kazakhstan, Altai Mountains, the region of Republic of Altai in modern Russia.
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So, that's how my direct ancestors came to this land, and it's because I'm from Siberia.
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Wow, what a journey in Siberia. I mean, that's not an easy place to live, I can imagine. I mean,
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it's cold and it's rough, so it makes, I'm sure you're probably a tough person. There's a lot of
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tough people up there, right? I hope so.
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It was very hard-boiled people to live in Russia and in Siberia, too. And they were persecuted,
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killed in Stalin's repression period in 1930s. For example, my grandfather was killed by NKVD,
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and it's a regular story among national minorities. Germans were national minorities in the Soviet Union.
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Yeah, I thought, hey, I thought white people couldn't be minorities. I'm just joking.
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Well, the one plus, too, about Siberia is there's probably no transsexuals up there.
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So, at least you're free from that. But we're going to discuss the foundations of
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pagan traditionalism. You've written a huge book on this. It's important to understand also,
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I think, the nuances of paganism in this postmodern era and kind of like an updated version to fit
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the things that we're going through. But I just want to know how you went, just briefly tell us how
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you went from the Orthodox faith to becoming a pagan, because everyone kind of has their journey of how
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they rediscovered the old native folk ways, right?
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I think my story isn't unique. I think it's a regular story. When you become a youth person,
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you're interested about fundamental questions about how everything became exist, for example.
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meaning of life, the source or origin of being of all entities, and so on. And you find questions in science,
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in some spiritual, esoterical teachings. I'm glad I find a good, not new age, and more traditional,
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traditionalistic authors, and they really inspired me in the young age. So, my spiritual journey is very short
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and very simple. I never was an Orthodox Christian. I became pagan by one step. About six months, I was a Slavic pagan,
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a Slavic pagan, but found my German roots. I learned about the Germans, and I became an
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Odinist, a follower of the God Odin and German tradition in general.
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That's right, the Germanic-Scandinavian path. That absolutely makes sense. Yeah. I think a good place
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to begin is to define paganism. Later, we're going to get into what it's not. That is something I've been
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talking about a lot lately because the word pagan is misused, you know, also by liberals and also by
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Christians. So, it's really irritating. But on, let's see, page 25 of your book, I just wanted to
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read. You had this nice little passage here. Paganism is a song, a beautiful song of eternal
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wisdom and unity, a forgotten but not lost song. Today, in the era of modernity and the dark age,
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one can ever more often hear the tune and melody of this ancient song, a tune which, although faint,
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nuanced, and fragmentary in its memory, is certain in its deep element. If you are reading these lines,
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and you have likely in one way or another been touched by this melody. I thought that that was
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beautiful. So, maybe you can get into a little bit about your definition of paganism. I know it's
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huge. And we're going to get into some of the big points of what it is.
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Yes, of course. And we face first troubles starting the term. And I want to draw attention to
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our new article we prepared with Jeff Arnold, the editor-in-chief of Publishing House,
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about this term, the pagandom. We use, we find this term and offer to use this term, not paganism,
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but pagandom, because the language is a very important matter. And
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in Russia, we have a unique term to name paganism. The term sounds yizuchistva. And in this term,
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we hear at the same time, it's three meanings. Language, mother tongue, folk or people or ethnos,
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and religion or tradition. All of three of them in Russian language,
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arise from one root, yizik. Yizik is the same time, ethnos, language, and yizuchistva, like pagan dom.
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So, it's impossible to translate into German language, into English language,
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language, this constellation of meanings. And pagandom, for me, is the language in which the
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sacred finds and manifests itself in the world, in every potential morbidity,
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and on earth, in the wide range of peoples who live there. And we may define paganism in more
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Heideggerian way. Paganism is the way design settles itself into the world. It's how
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being represented manifests its richness in many or infinity ways
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and people traditions. Any tradition is a whole universe. And we have a lot of pagan traditions,
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so we have a lot of hermetic universes. So, pagandom, it's an umbrella term of paganism,
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unite all of them in the deepest origin, or deepest state of dominate of paganism. Paganism is
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the most ancient and the most authentic way to represent sacred and
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unique way of any or every who lived in every corner of our world.
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That's right. And it must also not be forgotten, and you had said this too, that the philosophers in
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Greece and Rome, almost without exception, were all pagans, right? And that both Christian and Islamic
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theology is really drawn on the spiritual traditions of ancient paganism. People just tend to think that
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this is just something new, or it's just some, either something new or just some little relic of the past.
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But actually, paganism has been at the foundation of a lot of the greatest civilizations on the planet.
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You know, people also forget too that Buddhists and Hindus are pagans, right? The non-European versions,
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we had Egypt, the Greco-Roman civilization, Norse, I mean, Asian, like it's massive, right? They weren't
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just backwoods hillbillies who were uneducated, uncivilized, and didn't have any, you know,
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their own mythology and customs and traditions and morals. People tend to think that pagans are
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just a bunch of degenerates, right? Until the Abrahamic faiths showed up and showed them the
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way. But that is, of course, the complete opposite. That is not true. You say paganism is not a relic of
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the past. Paganism is very much alive and wields a critical analysis of the past, present, and future,
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with the potential to return to the forefront of consciousness. And this we are going to explore,
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because people also don't realize how much paganism is a part of our everyday life and
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the traditions that we celebrate, some of the holidays, some of the ways that we think,
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right? Now, how is paganism currently perceived wrongfully? I want to read one passage in your
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book here. It says, Paganism is often misrepresented by outsiders variously as a fad of the counterculture
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associated with hippies and black metal or the like, or an offshoot of Satanism. I hear this all
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the time. It's not even that. We're mixed with these New Age ideas that are fabricated in part
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by writings of so-called pagans of the New Age variety. Now, I know Julius Evola was also critical
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of a lot of the neo-paganist movement like you and like these basically liberals that are coming
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in and hijacking it and New Agers and all this. So, what do you have to say about that?
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Yes, it's a common problem in Russia, in Europe, in America, North or South. It's a misunderstanding and
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misrepresented. For example, New Agers, hippie, left liberals, soft theology,
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groups of eco-sexuals, for example. They are very loud and if you are loud, it's easy to draw attention by
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the media and became famous and popular. But it is a fake way. It's a way to establish the fake
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representation of ancient tradition living in the modern era. So, the same in this problem
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continues in religion studies, in political, in political, and of course,
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the role of Christian propaganda fighting with new religion movements and sex and Orthodox Church,
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for example, in Russia fighting with pagans. It is also part of or aspects of one problem of mis-
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misrepresented, misrepresented and misunderstanding what paganism is. Paganism is not materialism,
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hedonism, consumerism. It is the most known misunderstanding about what paganism is. It's a big deal,
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big business for pagan movements in Europe and not only in Europe, in ethnic regions, in Russia, in Asia, in South
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Asia, for example, in South America, about how they can represent themselves in society, in modern
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society, in politics, in adequate way. To not be associated with left liberals or extremely far-right
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groups or left communist groups or left communist groups or any kind of misrepresenting ideology, for
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example, because many of them use some pagans, non-government organizations and so on to achieve their
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political goals, for example, but not to represent and follow goals need to be reached by pagans themselves.
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That's right. Yeah. And a lot of the pagan organizations that you hear about, maybe like
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a lot of a lot of people think, oh, it's Wiccan, right? Wicca has nothing to do with it. You get
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into that in your book and also like a lot of the neo-pagan organizations. I don't know if it's like
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this in Russia, but it's focused on like progressivism and tolerance and diversity and
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feminism and the liberal world order. And then when you have groups that aren't like you have the AFA and
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oldness in America, all different kind, all types, we're attacked as being, you know, white supremacists,
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you know, because European people can't have anything that is their own, especially in America. I think it's
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anywhere now. It's getting attacked, right? You don't have any folk faiths and you're not indigenous anywhere and
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it's all racist and white supremacist and colonialist. And of course, that's a lie. It has nothing to do with
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liberals, liberals and what elites do today also, because I've been hearing a lot of people say what these
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globalist elites are doing, that they're just pagans. Now, they're not pagans. Like people bring up
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Bohemian Grove, you know, with their LARPy little, you know, rituals that they do, burning care or
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whatever, and Moloch, which is, you know, in the Bible and everything. But these people are not, you
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know, praising Odin and Thor and channeling Slavic gods and Roman gods and teaching us about pagan
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traditionalism. They're like, they're against folk. They're against blood and soil. You know,
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they're the opposite of that. I mean, Thor's hammer is on the ADL's hate symbol list. The
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coal of rot and ancient symbols. It ruins. In Russia too. Runes. Same problem. It's crazy. So I would say
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that these elites are trying to form this kind of, a lot of them are atheists, but they're kind of doing
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this new age kind of bullshit religion that isn't really anything real. What do you have to say to
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that response that when people say elites are pagans? I think it's like, it is a part of
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right-wing conservative conspirology inspired by Christian ideology and Christian propaganda,
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because it is a part of, in America it's protestant, protestant conspirology. In Russia it's Christian
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orthodox conspirology, but they're really the same. And it originated from this side. They think, of course,
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if global elites are evil and purely satanic worshippers, so they're also a pagan,
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masonic and illuminati and so on, so on, so on. And maybe they are all, of course, they're lizards.
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It's the same bullshit. We know everything about it. It is a part of conspirology and propaganda,
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or orthodox or, anyway, christian in general, ideology and agenda. So it's just a fake, because for christians,
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pagans, pagans mean satanic, it's an unbrokeable chain of equal, equal naming. So it's impossible to
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explain them. Okay, elites, they perform really strange rites or meetings near the giant oval made
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by concrete
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from concrete
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but okay they may be
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really satanic but they're not pagans
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at all because
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if they will
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they are pagans
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so why they
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persecute
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adequate real pagans
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all around the world and
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show the green
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green light
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and open
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open roads to the really
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fakes and crazy
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post-modern
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new age groups
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it's impossible
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to explain them and
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it's possible
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to understand only inside the
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conspiracy type of thing
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so for me it's not
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a
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problem because it's
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important, impossible
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to explain so there is no place to die
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yeah
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and what I find is the ADLs
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and these elites
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they're constantly terrified of this
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resurgence of
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Indo-European paganism
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why? Because it's rooting us
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into an old traditionalism
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that keeps us grounded
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and focused and aware
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of a lot of the
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crap that's going on
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the lies that are pushed on us
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it doesn't work on us
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because we're rooted in something
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deep and old
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and we have our own
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belief system
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we're like
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armed with this truth
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where they're trying to push
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this fake version
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of reality
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right
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and transhumanism
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and all this trans stuff
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and all this liberal stuff
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that isn't really
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real
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right
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and we're going to get
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into that
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but I want to
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if you could summarize
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at the core
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of Indo-European
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paganism
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what is at the core
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like a lot of
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Christians would say
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the main focus
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is to follow Jesus
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right
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it's real simple
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like we follow Jesus
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what would a pagan say
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now I know you have
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800 pages of information
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on this
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but
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if someone was brand new
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coming to this
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what would you say
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is at the essence
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the core of paganism
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and I think
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not only Indo-European
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we can find the same
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statement in
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non Indo-European traditions
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it's
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follow your destiny
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follow your
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dharma
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it's
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follow your Jew
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you
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must
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realize
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your
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dharma
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in your
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life
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in the
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midgarth
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of the
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middle
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middle world
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of the
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reality
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of
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the
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phenomenological
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reality
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in this
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life
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and
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if you
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don't
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realize
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your
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destiny
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your
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fate
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by your
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by your
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will
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so
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this fate
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will
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will lead you
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anyway
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you can deny it
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you can
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say
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I don't believe
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in fate
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but fate
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will lead you
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anyway
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and you
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will face
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every
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milestone
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of your
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fate
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of your fate
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of your destiny
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and
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it's
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unavoidable
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unavoidable
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structure
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of
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Indo-European
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and not only
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in the
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European
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religions
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and this
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destiny
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is
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given by
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deities
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by
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for example
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in the
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north
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traditions
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three norms
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and
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it's
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predeterminated
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by
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your soul
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in
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Asia
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in India
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it's called
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karma
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the law
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of harm
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of cycle
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of rebirth
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and so on
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in
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European
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traditions
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different
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a little bit
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different
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structure
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for example
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platonical
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teaching about
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metals
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of the soul
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the golden soul
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the silver soul
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and bronze soul
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so there's
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different
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types
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of
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possible
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destinies
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a variation
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of possible
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destinies
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for
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men
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living
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in the world
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and
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not to
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follow
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Jesus
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or
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any
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other
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hero
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but to
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follow
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your
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inner
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divine
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destiny
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or destiny
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given
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to you
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by
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your
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lead
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deity
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deity
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in the
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center
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of your
00:24:20.340
cult
00:24:20.800
of
00:24:21.120
cult
00:24:21.380
of
00:24:21.620
the
00:24:22.540
people
00:24:23.200
or
00:24:23.880
cult
00:24:24.400
of
00:24:24.620
the
00:24:25.000
separated
00:24:27.040
state
00:24:27.640
or
00:24:29.200
given
00:24:32.000
by
00:24:32.220
personal
00:24:32.660
guru
00:24:33.260
for example
00:24:34.260
and
00:24:34.600
so on
00:24:35.660
in
00:24:36.000
different
00:24:36.820
cultures
00:24:37.220
it's
00:24:39.160
in
00:24:40.640
different
00:24:40.920
cultures
00:24:41.300
performed
00:24:42.120
by
00:24:42.760
different
00:24:44.020
structures
00:24:47.080
and
00:24:47.700
in
00:24:49.060
many
00:24:49.640
forms
00:24:50.100
but
00:24:50.940
the main
00:24:51.460
core
00:24:51.680
is
00:24:51.920
follow
00:24:52.220
your
00:24:52.460
harm
00:24:52.740
and
00:24:53.100
perform
00:24:55.860
the
00:24:57.080
fidelis
00:24:58.020
the
00:24:58.940
semper
00:24:59.260
fidelis
00:24:59.800
to
00:25:00.860
deities
00:25:01.300
yeah to
00:25:02.720
me I
00:25:03.080
think
00:25:03.360
it's the
00:25:04.100
most
00:25:04.420
authentic
00:25:05.240
thing
00:25:06.020
there is
00:25:06.420
you know
00:25:06.620
people always
00:25:07.020
talk about
00:25:07.520
oh I
00:25:08.240
want to
00:25:08.480
live an
00:25:08.800
authentic
00:25:09.140
life
00:25:09.740
and all
00:25:10.040
this
00:25:10.260
and your
00:25:10.940
soul
00:25:11.280
all these
00:25:12.220
fake
00:25:12.860
versions
00:25:13.360
and stuff
00:25:14.040
but
00:25:14.400
the
00:25:15.120
pagan
00:25:15.780
traditionalism
00:25:16.620
is rooted
00:25:17.080
in something
00:25:17.620
much older
00:25:18.200
and our
00:25:18.580
ancestral
00:25:19.060
ways
00:25:19.840
and
00:25:20.180
in touch
00:25:21.340
with the
00:25:21.740
seasons
00:25:22.520
and events
00:25:23.800
that have
00:25:24.060
happened
00:25:24.340
in the
00:25:24.580
past
00:25:25.100
and
00:25:25.440
mythologies
00:25:26.360
that have
00:25:26.660
arosen
00:25:27.100
probably
00:25:27.860
over
00:25:28.320
thousands
00:25:28.820
of years
00:25:29.300
to form
00:25:29.780
some of
00:25:30.080
these
00:25:30.280
archetypal
00:25:30.900
things
00:25:31.180
so it's
00:25:31.760
in our
00:25:32.240
DNA
00:25:32.620
it's in
00:25:33.300
our
00:25:33.600
entire
00:25:35.140
makeup
00:25:35.720
you know
00:25:36.180
all those
00:25:36.640
that have
00:25:36.840
gone before
00:25:37.380
us
00:25:37.640
are in
00:25:38.140
us
00:25:38.300
you say
00:25:38.960
pagan
00:25:39.320
traditionalism
00:25:40.020
is potentially
00:25:40.660
fertile soil
00:25:41.560
for all
00:25:42.100
those pagan
00:25:42.620
traditions
00:25:43.100
and all
00:25:43.620
the different
00:25:44.000
corners
00:25:44.320
of the
00:25:44.600
world
00:25:44.920
which are
00:25:45.580
struggling
00:25:46.000
for their
00:25:46.560
identity
00:25:47.820
purity
00:25:48.880
and their
00:25:49.380
very
00:25:49.700
existence
00:25:50.260
and being
00:25:50.960
so it's
00:25:51.660
seeking
00:25:52.260
the most
00:25:52.720
authentic
00:25:53.180
life
00:25:53.860
right
00:25:54.240
and trying
00:25:55.020
to be
00:25:55.320
the best
00:25:55.760
that you
00:25:56.060
can be
00:25:56.460
I was
00:25:56.700
thinking
00:25:56.920
about that
00:25:57.420
some of
00:25:57.920
the big
00:25:58.300
points
00:25:58.780
for me
00:25:59.340
you know
00:26:00.480
hero
00:26:01.000
becoming the
00:26:01.720
hero
00:26:01.960
the hero's
00:26:02.640
journey
00:26:02.980
and being
00:26:03.440
brave
00:26:04.100
fighting for
00:26:05.320
your soil
00:26:06.000
and land
00:26:06.900
they support
00:26:07.980
hierarchy
00:26:08.660
and natural
00:26:09.540
law
00:26:10.060
nature is
00:26:11.280
divine
00:26:11.780
right
00:26:12.260
you're
00:26:12.640
not separate
00:26:14.460
from it
00:26:14.940
like you're
00:26:15.500
a part of it
00:26:16.140
and it is
00:26:16.540
all divine
00:26:17.040
you're
00:26:18.280
concerned
00:26:18.940
about folk
00:26:19.560
and tribe
00:26:20.200
and family
00:26:21.160
first
00:26:21.660
and striving
00:26:22.200
to be
00:26:22.620
kind of like
00:26:23.200
Nietzsche
00:26:23.640
talked about
00:26:24.120
right
00:26:24.300
the superhuman
00:26:25.420
isn't that
00:26:26.040
kind of like
00:26:26.480
the path
00:26:26.980
of the
00:26:27.220
viking
00:26:27.600
now I know
00:26:28.300
I was just
00:26:28.660
reading
00:26:28.900
Kalergi's
00:26:29.720
book
00:26:30.060
right
00:26:30.400
Kudnhoff
00:26:30.820
Kalergi
00:26:31.260
and he was
00:26:32.180
complaining
00:26:32.700
about pagans
00:26:34.320
because of
00:26:35.020
their drive
00:26:36.160
to be the
00:26:36.620
superhuman
00:26:37.240
and this
00:26:37.600
bravery
00:26:38.020
and how
00:26:38.440
they don't
00:26:39.180
comply
00:26:39.680
and how
00:26:41.080
he actually
00:26:41.600
favored
00:26:42.040
christianity
00:26:42.860
because it
00:26:43.340
was more
00:26:43.960
conducive
00:26:45.120
to
00:26:45.300
internationalism
00:26:46.700
and race
00:26:47.400
mixing
00:26:47.820
and well
00:26:49.060
basically
00:26:49.440
control
00:26:50.000
you know
00:26:50.760
so to me
00:26:51.420
pagan also
00:26:52.340
represents
00:26:53.040
the unruly
00:26:54.560
rebellion
00:26:55.120
against this
00:26:56.080
current world
00:26:57.220
order that
00:26:57.800
has just
00:26:58.100
completely
00:26:58.840
gone nuts
00:26:59.640
you know
00:27:00.640
any points
00:27:01.920
you want to
00:27:02.180
add to that
00:27:02.640
any some
00:27:03.240
of the
00:27:03.620
the big
00:27:04.320
I want to
00:27:04.640
ask but
00:27:05.980
pagandom
00:27:07.300
it's
00:27:08.140
directly
00:27:09.760
and straight
00:27:11.940
against any
00:27:12.840
kind of
00:27:13.260
globalism
00:27:13.840
because
00:27:15.100
for any
00:27:16.980
pagan
00:27:18.340
culture
00:27:18.880
any pagan
00:27:19.440
tradition
00:27:19.960
on banks
00:27:23.300
of the river
00:27:23.800
Amazon
00:27:24.260
or banks
00:27:25.840
of the river
00:27:26.600
Yenisei
00:27:28.140
in the middle
00:27:29.020
of Eurasian
00:27:30.000
continent
00:27:30.500
not only
00:27:33.600
blood
00:27:33.920
but soil
00:27:34.620
landscape
00:27:35.460
around you
00:27:37.160
it's also
00:27:38.280
affects
00:27:41.220
a part
00:27:42.100
of your
00:27:42.420
metaphysics
00:27:43.080
the landscape
00:27:44.700
around you
00:27:45.540
it's
00:27:45.920
represented
00:27:46.640
as one
00:27:47.980
of
00:27:48.220
way
00:27:49.000
which
00:27:49.720
divine
00:27:51.280
represents
00:27:52.040
itself
00:27:52.500
so
00:27:52.940
it's
00:27:54.980
strongly
00:27:56.180
against
00:27:57.060
universalism
00:27:59.960
of
00:28:00.360
global
00:28:01.960
megacities
00:28:02.680
of
00:28:03.640
virtual reality
00:28:05.360
urbanism
00:28:07.120
and
00:28:08.280
Christianity
00:28:10.700
too
00:28:11.940
because
00:28:12.340
Christianity
00:28:12.980
is the
00:28:13.400
first
00:28:13.800
release
00:28:16.020
of
00:28:16.320
globalism
00:28:17.120
it's the
00:28:17.400
first
00:28:17.720
really
00:28:19.200
global
00:28:19.740
culture
00:28:21.700
paradigm
00:28:23.460
of thinking
00:28:24.100
and so on
00:28:25.540
and the
00:28:26.280
modern
00:28:26.640
globalism
00:28:27.460
and this
00:28:28.180
global
00:28:28.560
elite
00:28:28.940
we talked
00:28:29.620
earlier
00:28:30.000
about
00:28:30.380
they also
00:28:32.360
sons
00:28:33.800
they also
00:28:34.800
sons and
00:28:37.500
daughters
00:28:37.860
of
00:28:38.360
Christendom
00:28:39.740
Christendom
00:28:40.720
is the
00:28:41.020
father of
00:28:41.480
modern
00:28:41.760
globalism
00:28:42.260
so
00:28:42.520
paganism
00:28:43.460
stands
00:28:43.960
against
00:28:44.420
both
00:28:45.020
of them
00:28:45.500
because
00:28:46.120
there is
00:28:46.600
a small
00:28:47.400
difference
00:28:48.020
between
00:28:50.040
them
00:28:50.360
and
00:28:50.720
that's
00:28:53.180
what I
00:28:53.980
want
00:28:54.240
to add
00:28:55.340
and
00:28:55.700
in
00:28:56.280
polymers
00:28:56.740
I
00:28:57.020
also
00:28:57.360
discuss
00:28:57.820
and
00:28:58.120
describe
00:28:58.600
how
00:28:58.960
it
00:28:59.680
will
00:29:01.440
be
00:29:01.600
done
00:29:01.880
that's
00:29:03.820
right
00:29:03.940
your
00:29:04.100
people
00:29:04.540
and
00:29:05.320
your
00:29:05.480
land
00:29:05.860
those
00:29:06.380
are
00:29:06.500
the
00:29:06.620
most
00:29:06.800
important
00:29:07.220
things
00:29:07.560
to a
00:29:07.820
pagan
00:29:08.000
right
00:29:08.340
and
00:29:08.580
it's
00:29:09.100
that's
00:29:09.580
the
00:29:09.660
people
00:29:10.000
and
00:29:12.280
people
00:29:14.020
and
00:29:14.260
landscape
00:29:14.560
it's
00:29:15.140
all
00:29:15.440
it's
00:29:17.480
a
00:29:17.720
manifest
00:29:18.040
of
00:29:18.300
deity
00:29:18.880
exactly
00:29:19.640
so
00:29:19.940
it is
00:29:20.620
it is
00:29:21.940
the
00:29:22.320
opposition
00:29:23.220
to
00:29:23.620
globalism
00:29:24.320
right
00:29:24.740
and that's
00:29:25.200
why
00:29:25.380
they hate
00:29:26.320
it
00:29:26.440
it's
00:29:26.540
healthy
00:29:27.400
regionalism
00:29:29.240
it's
00:29:29.440
healthy
00:29:29.800
localism
00:29:30.460
yeah
00:29:30.700
exactly
00:29:31.160
thinking
00:29:31.620
locally
00:29:32.000
we're not
00:29:32.320
talking about
00:29:32.760
colonialism
00:29:33.240
and all this
00:29:33.840
stuff
00:29:34.020
I mean
00:29:34.280
yeah
00:29:34.640
there's been
00:29:34.940
past
00:29:35.360
histories
00:29:35.860
of that
00:29:36.280
and stuff
00:29:36.640
but like
00:29:37.140
today
00:29:37.620
it's a
00:29:37.900
different
00:29:38.180
ball game
00:29:39.040
but yeah
00:29:40.400
thinking
00:29:40.760
locally
00:29:41.220
thinking
00:29:41.620
about your
00:29:42.120
people
00:29:42.520
thinking
00:29:42.960
about your
00:29:43.480
tribe
00:29:43.960
and I
00:29:44.620
feel
00:29:44.820
that these
00:29:45.220
things
00:29:45.440
are very
00:29:46.020
important
00:29:46.440
with where
00:29:46.880
the world
00:29:47.360
is moving
00:29:47.860
and going
00:29:48.300
into
00:29:48.600
you know
00:29:48.940
crazy
00:29:49.340
land
00:29:49.820
and all
00:29:50.200
this
00:29:50.400
control
00:29:51.460
system
00:29:51.980
and eventually
00:29:52.820
eating
00:29:53.180
the bugs
00:29:53.800
and transhumanism
00:29:55.000
and virtual
00:29:55.640
reality
00:29:56.180
you get into
00:29:56.740
all of this
00:29:57.240
in your book
00:29:57.740
so the solution
00:29:58.760
to that
00:29:59.300
is to have
00:29:59.880
your you know
00:30:00.440
your small
00:30:01.140
villages
00:30:01.600
your local
00:30:02.200
tribes
00:30:02.840
your land
00:30:04.140
like helping
00:30:04.700
each other
00:30:05.080
almost going
00:30:05.860
back into
00:30:06.780
that time
00:30:07.280
but we can
00:30:07.900
have it
00:30:08.300
with an
00:30:08.700
updated
00:30:09.780
version
00:30:10.560
you know
00:30:10.900
what I mean
00:30:11.180
people think
00:30:11.680
that you have
00:30:12.120
to live
00:30:13.080
a Luddite
00:30:14.200
jumping around
00:30:16.720
in a costume
00:30:17.400
or something
00:30:17.740
that's what
00:30:18.260
they think
00:30:18.700
pagans are
00:30:19.440
like every
00:30:19.840
night
00:30:20.100
around the
00:30:21.100
fire
00:30:21.440
and stuff
00:30:21.800
like that
00:30:22.100
but what
00:30:22.680
do you think
00:30:23.140
about needing
00:30:23.720
an updated
00:30:24.900
version of
00:30:25.840
paganism
00:30:26.520
to fit
00:30:27.240
the current
00:30:28.180
era
00:30:28.460
because we're
00:30:29.000
dealing with
00:30:29.720
a lot of
00:30:30.600
different problems
00:30:31.540
right now
00:30:31.900
right
00:30:32.060
we're dealing
00:30:32.380
with modernity
00:30:33.200
western liberalism
00:30:34.800
multiculturalism
00:30:36.080
immigration
00:30:36.840
LGBTQ
00:30:38.440
the transsexuals
00:30:41.000
all this
00:30:41.580
so how do you
00:30:42.700
think we should
00:30:43.800
view the
00:30:44.180
geopolitical
00:30:45.260
conflict from
00:30:46.120
a pagan
00:30:46.920
perspective
00:30:47.620
in our
00:30:48.080
modern era
00:30:49.120
of course
00:30:51.480
we cannot
00:30:52.820
behave ourselves
00:30:53.540
like nothing
00:30:55.280
happened
00:30:56.160
the last
00:30:57.000
couple
00:30:58.220
last
00:30:59.180
2000 years
00:31:00.460
many things
00:31:04.660
radically
00:31:05.720
change
00:31:06.140
and
00:31:06.480
more of
00:31:07.700
the
00:31:07.940
really
00:31:09.320
passed away
00:31:10.840
and
00:31:11.180
die forever
00:31:12.400
so the
00:31:13.840
modern pagans
00:31:14.400
who won't
00:31:14.800
live
00:31:15.140
like in
00:31:16.420
past
00:31:16.820
and
00:31:17.260
wear
00:31:19.020
some
00:31:19.460
funny
00:31:21.160
dress
00:31:21.600
and
00:31:22.480
saying
00:31:23.400
nothing
00:31:24.120
changed
00:31:25.280
we are
00:31:27.160
the same
00:31:27.680
pagans
00:31:28.120
as
00:31:29.000
our
00:31:30.780
ancient
00:31:31.440
ancestors
00:31:31.940
it's a
00:31:33.060
fake
00:31:33.340
it's a
00:31:33.680
lie
00:31:33.960
and
00:31:34.760
if we
00:31:35.320
ask them
00:31:36.100
something
00:31:36.700
about
00:31:37.320
typical
00:31:40.120
and
00:31:40.400
easy
00:31:41.320
question
00:31:41.700
about
00:31:42.020
what
00:31:42.460
for example
00:31:43.420
stars
00:31:44.900
on the
00:31:45.360
night
00:31:45.600
skies
00:31:47.420
what is
00:31:48.160
this
00:31:49.380
they
00:31:49.880
answer
00:31:50.320
oh
00:31:50.580
it's
00:31:50.860
plasmoid
00:31:53.860
it's
00:31:54.760
sky
00:31:56.100
bodies
00:31:57.300
in
00:31:57.900
the
00:31:58.700
far
00:31:59.040
outer
00:32:00.040
space
00:32:00.540
and so
00:32:00.840
on
00:32:00.980
so
00:32:01.240
paganism
00:32:03.560
broke
00:32:03.880
it's not
00:32:04.800
a paganism
00:32:05.240
it's a
00:32:05.820
scientific
00:32:06.180
world
00:32:07.560
view
00:32:07.900
so
00:32:08.360
for pagan
00:32:09.260
stars
00:32:10.360
in the
00:32:12.120
night sky
00:32:12.560
for example
00:32:13.440
eyes of the
00:32:14.600
ancestors
00:32:15.080
or holes
00:32:16.140
in the
00:32:17.100
uh
00:32:17.580
audience
00:32:18.080
kit
00:32:18.440
uh
00:32:19.440
many
00:32:19.740
metaphors
00:32:20.300
poet
00:32:20.660
metaphors
00:32:21.220
uh
00:32:21.940
and we
00:32:22.760
face a
00:32:23.260
problem
00:32:23.600
about
00:32:24.800
uh
00:32:25.380
this
00:32:25.900
paganism
00:32:26.720
so
00:32:27.020
paganism
00:32:27.680
should be
00:32:28.320
updated
00:32:28.800
but
00:32:29.140
updated
00:32:29.680
uh
00:32:30.940
doesn't
00:32:31.900
mean
00:32:32.120
modernization
00:32:32.900
no
00:32:33.340
uh
00:32:33.940
complying
00:32:35.740
with
00:32:36.100
modernity
00:32:37.060
with
00:32:37.340
modern
00:32:38.180
paradigm
00:32:38.800
of
00:32:39.140
thinking
00:32:40.040
education
00:32:40.960
and
00:32:41.360
epistemic
00:32:42.240
science
00:32:43.600
and philosophy
00:32:44.220
no
00:32:45.480
it must
00:32:46.600
be
00:32:47.020
updated
00:32:47.500
in europe
00:32:48.060
in russia
00:32:48.560
in asia
00:32:49.140
in
00:32:49.460
both
00:32:50.880
parts of
00:32:52.560
america
00:32:53.120
everywhere
00:32:54.280
updated
00:32:55.380
to the
00:32:57.400
understanding
00:32:58.400
and deeply
00:32:59.740
completely
00:33:00.700
understanding
00:33:01.320
and complex
00:33:02.560
understanding
00:33:03.020
about
00:33:03.400
uh
00:33:04.400
what
00:33:05.720
modernity
00:33:06.920
is
00:33:07.180
and post
00:33:07.640
modernity
00:33:08.140
is
00:33:08.300
and how
00:33:08.780
it
00:33:09.060
stands
00:33:09.560
against
00:33:10.060
any
00:33:10.440
kind
00:33:10.840
of
00:33:11.020
sacrality
00:33:11.600
and
00:33:13.000
ergo
00:33:13.740
any
00:33:14.320
kind
00:33:14.640
of
00:33:15.020
pagantum
00:33:15.960
of
00:33:16.160
paganism
00:33:16.600
and
00:33:16.840
pagandum
00:33:17.240
in general
00:33:17.700
uh
00:33:19.480
it is a
00:33:20.560
problem
00:33:20.860
of
00:33:21.900
education
00:33:22.640
and
00:33:23.220
explanation
00:33:23.860
for
00:33:24.160
pagans
00:33:24.760
uh
00:33:25.640
for
00:33:27.440
for any
00:33:28.320
kind
00:33:28.620
i think
00:33:29.180
of
00:33:29.320
pagans
00:33:29.760
uh
00:33:30.640
the
00:33:31.780
this
00:33:32.480
intellectual
00:33:33.420
and
00:33:33.960
paradigmatic
00:33:34.680
situation
00:33:35.300
about
00:33:36.660
in
00:33:37.080
in
00:33:37.940
what
00:33:40.020
world
00:33:40.760
we live
00:33:41.220
now
00:33:41.580
and how
00:33:42.240
we can
00:33:42.680
uh
00:33:43.600
reach
00:33:44.000
establish
00:33:45.100
again
00:33:45.920
uh
00:33:46.860
our
00:33:47.220
connection
00:33:47.580
to
00:33:47.940
deities
00:33:48.680
to
00:33:48.920
divine
00:33:49.280
nature
00:33:49.760
inside
00:33:50.640
in
00:33:50.920
outer
00:33:51.360
world
00:33:51.640
inside
00:33:52.200
inside
00:33:52.780
uh
00:33:54.320
ourselves
00:33:55.640
uh
00:33:56.580
in
00:33:56.820
our
00:33:57.140
heart
00:33:57.500
and
00:33:58.960
post-modernity
00:34:01.660
virtuality
00:34:02.960
uh
00:34:03.960
freaks
00:34:04.520
perversions
00:34:05.780
uh
00:34:06.860
uh
00:34:07.460
you know
00:34:08.000
it's also
00:34:09.240
a huge
00:34:10.180
part
00:34:10.580
of
00:34:11.260
problem
00:34:12.380
i describe
00:34:13.180
in many
00:34:13.520
pages
00:34:13.900
roots
00:34:15.260
of them
00:34:15.800
and how
00:34:16.260
they
00:34:16.620
intersect
00:34:17.860
with
00:34:18.260
uh
00:34:18.760
some
00:34:19.700
spirituality
00:34:20.580
and became
00:34:21.480
a part
00:34:21.840
of modern
00:34:22.260
traditionalism
00:34:23.260
why pagans
00:34:24.060
uh
00:34:24.820
uh
00:34:25.260
turned
00:34:26.720
to the
00:34:27.620
uh
00:34:28.800
for example
00:34:29.520
lgbtq
00:34:31.580
and
00:34:32.200
uh
00:34:33.420
any
00:34:33.740
many letters
00:34:34.640
after
00:34:35.020
uh
00:34:36.200
movements
00:34:37.760
and
00:34:38.320
uh
00:34:39.020
defend
00:34:39.480
this position
00:34:40.120
and why
00:34:41.020
it's
00:34:41.300
fake
00:34:41.820
paganism
00:34:42.540
and
00:34:43.480
not only
00:34:45.640
sexual
00:34:46.880
perversions
00:34:47.460
political
00:34:48.180
uh
00:34:49.380
ideology
00:34:50.260
ideological
00:34:51.960
uh
00:34:53.420
scientifical
00:34:54.000
and
00:34:54.480
in this
00:34:56.780
way
00:34:57.040
i i i'm
00:34:58.040
sure
00:34:58.400
uh
00:34:59.040
pagan
00:34:59.720
traditionalism
00:35:00.560
and
00:35:01.140
we may
00:35:02.180
say
00:35:02.660
traditional
00:35:03.400
traditionalism
00:35:04.340
at all
00:35:04.820
uh
00:35:05.820
may
00:35:06.560
may be
00:35:07.420
a common
00:35:08.000
ground
00:35:08.460
uh
00:35:09.600
it's a
00:35:11.400
language
00:35:11.760
to describe
00:35:12.580
the modern
00:35:12.980
world
00:35:13.460
uh
00:35:14.880
from the
00:35:15.620
point of
00:35:16.040
view
00:35:16.280
of
00:35:16.540
sacrality
00:35:17.120
and
00:35:18.000
define
00:35:18.800
the
00:35:19.240
modern
00:35:19.600
and
00:35:19.780
postmodern
00:35:20.160
world
00:35:20.540
as
00:35:20.900
anti
00:35:22.700
and
00:35:23.320
counter
00:35:24.140
sacrality
00:35:24.760
forces
00:35:25.760
and
00:35:27.680
following
00:35:28.640
our
00:35:29.500
heroical
00:35:30.140
karma
00:35:30.660
we must
00:35:31.620
fight them
00:35:32.200
in
00:35:32.840
many
00:35:34.460
uh
00:35:35.940
aspects
00:35:36.260
in
00:35:36.620
every
00:35:37.680
battlefield
00:35:38.160
fighting
00:35:39.240
uh
00:35:40.180
thinking
00:35:40.720
art
00:35:41.400
science
00:35:43.440
poetry
00:35:45.100
yeah
00:35:46.460
it's like
00:35:46.900
you said
00:35:47.320
it's a
00:35:48.020
their war
00:35:49.660
is against
00:35:50.360
us in our
00:35:50.940
in our minds
00:35:51.760
right
00:35:52.120
in our state
00:35:52.760
of being
00:35:53.340
and to me
00:35:53.900
the modern
00:35:54.440
day pagan
00:35:55.060
it's a way
00:35:55.700
of thinking
00:35:56.420
and and
00:35:57.360
being
00:35:57.900
right
00:35:58.280
that represents
00:35:58.900
something old
00:35:59.760
and grounded
00:36:00.400
and timeless
00:36:01.180
that is a
00:36:02.340
closest to
00:36:03.220
how our
00:36:03.680
ancestors
00:36:04.260
the builders
00:36:05.100
of civilization
00:36:06.020
how our
00:36:06.940
ancestors
00:36:07.400
viewed the
00:36:08.280
world
00:36:08.640
and envisioned
00:36:09.380
the world
00:36:09.980
and um
00:36:11.360
just
00:36:12.020
standing
00:36:12.660
i think
00:36:13.100
today
00:36:13.680
being a
00:36:14.520
pagan
00:36:14.740
and thinking
00:36:15.500
that all
00:36:15.980
the conflicts
00:36:16.700
today
00:36:17.140
and global
00:36:17.820
homo
00:36:18.280
and all
00:36:18.540
that
00:36:18.760
just challenging
00:36:19.800
it and being
00:36:20.640
the resistance
00:36:21.160
and saying
00:36:21.800
no
00:36:22.160
and laughing
00:36:23.160
at it
00:36:23.560
and just
00:36:24.020
honoring
00:36:24.440
your uh
00:36:25.420
your folk
00:36:26.000
and your
00:36:26.260
family
00:36:26.700
and your
00:36:27.300
land
00:36:27.720
and basically
00:36:28.560
being like
00:36:29.460
how we are
00:36:30.220
today
00:36:30.640
is is
00:36:31.560
is how
00:36:32.160
you
00:36:32.500
being the
00:36:33.200
resistance
00:36:33.820
is what i
00:36:34.920
think
00:36:35.200
what do you
00:36:36.160
think
00:36:36.420
to be
00:36:37.040
back
00:36:37.260
to date
00:36:37.700
is
00:36:38.180
to resist
00:36:40.220
the whole
00:36:41.020
reality
00:36:41.580
for me
00:36:42.880
for example
00:36:43.420
is a
00:36:44.200
absolutely
00:36:45.160
clear
00:36:46.300
knowledge
00:36:46.860
and
00:36:47.520
statement
00:36:48.380
take a look
00:36:53.180
in any
00:36:53.880
part
00:36:54.620
of
00:36:55.140
social life
00:36:56.300
and you
00:36:57.580
find
00:36:58.820
both at the
00:36:59.820
same time
00:37:00.360
the relics
00:37:01.200
of
00:37:01.640
ancient
00:37:02.800
forms of
00:37:04.640
thinking
00:37:05.020
or
00:37:05.620
outer
00:37:07.120
forms
00:37:07.580
with
00:37:11.100
already
00:37:11.920
that
00:37:12.780
sense
00:37:13.280
but
00:37:13.560
forms
00:37:14.320
still
00:37:14.680
exist
00:37:15.520
and
00:37:16.240
you
00:37:16.860
find
00:37:17.200
modern
00:37:19.460
and postmodern
00:37:20.140
infiltration
00:37:20.960
and you
00:37:21.420
must
00:37:21.740
separate
00:37:22.280
them
00:37:22.540
preganism
00:37:23.040
is a
00:37:23.820
art
00:37:24.520
of
00:37:25.040
differentiation
00:37:25.620
for example
00:37:27.060
and separating
00:37:28.820
the modern
00:37:30.080
from
00:37:30.960
traditional
00:37:31.960
or
00:37:32.300
traditional
00:37:32.740
istic
00:37:33.240
and
00:37:34.280
preserve
00:37:36.060
and
00:37:36.700
growing up
00:37:38.180
you had
00:37:39.080
on page
00:37:39.520
155
00:37:40.400
it was
00:37:40.700
a chapter
00:37:41.260
paganism
00:37:41.980
modernity
00:37:42.620
and postmodernity
00:37:43.700
I wanted to
00:37:44.160
just read
00:37:44.660
a paragraph
00:37:45.240
because it's
00:37:45.540
very good
00:37:45.900
by taking
00:37:46.780
the side
00:37:47.320
of the
00:37:47.600
eternal
00:37:48.020
beyond time
00:37:48.800
the side
00:37:49.180
of the
00:37:49.420
divine
00:37:49.780
element
00:37:50.220
and by
00:37:50.640
affirming
00:37:51.100
the heroic
00:37:51.740
type
00:37:52.260
in the
00:37:52.580
era
00:37:52.840
of
00:37:53.040
modernity
00:37:53.580
no
00:37:54.200
choice
00:37:54.620
remains
00:37:55.040
but to
00:37:55.360
declare
00:37:55.740
and wage
00:37:56.320
war
00:37:56.700
in difficult
00:37:57.260
and confusing
00:37:57.920
circumstances
00:37:58.720
in which
00:37:59.160
the enemy
00:37:59.600
is strong
00:38:00.220
cunning
00:38:01.020
ignoble
00:38:02.040
and at
00:38:02.520
first glance
00:38:03.160
everywhere
00:38:03.760
and nowhere
00:38:04.560
but we
00:38:05.060
shall
00:38:05.260
remember
00:38:05.640
that the
00:38:06.040
gods
00:38:06.280
always
00:38:06.680
defeat
00:38:07.100
the
00:38:07.400
titans
00:38:07.860
and the
00:38:08.180
heroes
00:38:08.520
gain glory
00:38:09.240
and find
00:38:09.680
immortality
00:38:10.380
thus it is
00:38:11.240
necessary to
00:38:11.980
boldly oppose
00:38:12.960
law modernity
00:38:14.140
with high antiquity
00:38:15.240
and to
00:38:15.580
fulfill
00:38:16.000
the do
00:38:16.900
now you
00:38:17.680
were talking
00:38:18.100
about the
00:38:18.640
do
00:38:19.020
quite a bit
00:38:19.680
in the
00:38:20.480
book
00:38:20.700
now maybe
00:38:21.200
I know
00:38:21.540
some things
00:38:21.880
are lost
00:38:22.220
in translation
00:38:22.720
when I
00:38:23.140
read
00:38:23.380
but it
00:38:23.780
sounds
00:38:23.960
beautiful
00:38:24.280
fulfill
00:38:25.880
the do
00:38:26.520
and you
00:38:26.860
mentioned
00:38:27.120
the do
00:38:27.520
quite a
00:38:27.940
bit
00:38:28.100
d-u-e
00:38:28.840
now tell
00:38:29.400
us what
00:38:29.820
that
00:38:30.180
tell us
00:38:30.740
what that
00:38:31.000
is
00:38:32.220
do you
00:38:35.280
as I
00:38:36.320
think I
00:38:37.320
answered
00:38:37.680
before
00:38:38.880
it's a
00:38:39.660
it's a
00:38:42.720
destiny
00:38:43.080
prepared
00:38:43.680
and given
00:38:44.340
you
00:38:44.820
by
00:38:45.180
deity
00:38:46.800
and according
00:38:47.560
to your
00:38:48.160
structure
00:38:49.040
of your
00:38:49.460
soul
00:38:49.800
of your
00:38:50.620
relating to
00:38:51.980
the one
00:38:52.640
of the
00:38:52.880
classical
00:38:53.240
in the
00:38:53.500
European
00:38:53.820
states
00:38:54.380
for example
00:38:55.000
described
00:38:55.540
by
00:38:56.000
French
00:38:57.440
structuralist
00:38:59.160
thinker
00:38:59.680
Dumizim
00:39:00.660
so if
00:39:01.940
you are
00:39:02.560
peasant
00:39:03.840
your
00:39:04.780
karma
00:39:05.660
your
00:39:06.000
destiny
00:39:06.660
your due
00:39:07.940
is to be
00:39:08.540
peasant
00:39:08.860
to farm
00:39:09.600
the land
00:39:10.020
and if
00:39:10.780
you are
00:39:11.020
warrior
00:39:11.340
you must
00:39:13.160
fight
00:39:14.300
you must
00:39:14.880
be
00:39:15.580
inside
00:39:16.400
in the
00:39:16.740
heart
00:39:16.980
of battle
00:39:17.600
to
00:39:18.740
lead
00:39:19.180
your
00:39:19.400
people
00:39:19.880
became
00:39:21.060
a king
00:39:21.640
to
00:39:23.020
find
00:39:23.660
your
00:39:24.240
immortal
00:39:25.640
glory
00:39:26.280
of
00:39:27.160
the
00:39:28.340
highest
00:39:28.660
one
00:39:29.000
the
00:39:29.180
Havamal
00:39:29.680
verses
00:39:31.100
and if
00:39:32.360
you are
00:39:32.940
so-called
00:39:34.520
brahman
00:39:35.840
or
00:39:36.460
priest
00:39:37.220
philosopher
00:39:37.720
your
00:39:39.160
due
00:39:39.560
is to
00:39:40.120
serve
00:39:41.880
to
00:39:42.940
the
00:39:43.060
deities
00:39:43.520
to
00:39:44.000
provide
00:39:44.480
the
00:39:44.980
deities
00:39:46.380
energies
00:39:47.180
to
00:39:47.480
provide
00:39:48.100
sacrifice
00:39:48.600
down
00:39:49.600
to
00:39:49.880
the
00:39:50.320
your
00:39:53.120
people
00:39:53.760
to
00:39:54.720
the
00:39:55.160
structure
00:39:55.940
of
00:39:56.220
society
00:39:56.740
to the
00:39:57.220
warriors
00:39:57.540
to the
00:39:57.860
peasants
00:39:58.260
all of
00:39:58.900
that
00:39:59.040
and
00:39:59.920
asking
00:40:00.700
about
00:40:01.220
about
00:40:02.560
being
00:40:03.040
about
00:40:03.620
origin
00:40:06.160
source
00:40:07.660
of
00:40:08.100
everything
00:40:09.000
to
00:40:10.360
connect
00:40:11.780
and
00:40:12.200
open
00:40:12.640
divine
00:40:13.380
nature
00:40:13.900
inside
00:40:14.580
yourself
00:40:14.980
it's
00:40:15.740
your
00:40:16.000
due
00:40:16.280
and
00:40:18.340
every
00:40:18.900
of
00:40:19.240
them
00:40:19.640
peasant
00:40:20.380
warrior
00:40:20.820
and
00:40:22.660
priest
00:40:23.700
philosopher
00:40:24.300
can
00:40:28.480
and
00:40:28.740
must
00:40:29.140
fight
00:40:30.020
against
00:40:30.480
modernity
00:40:31.200
and
00:40:31.320
post-modernity
00:40:32.000
according
00:40:32.800
to
00:40:33.120
their
00:40:33.520
state
00:40:35.860
metaphysics
00:40:37.020
and
00:40:37.540
way of
00:40:39.260
life
00:40:39.560
farm
00:40:42.920
your
00:40:43.200
land
00:40:43.560
and
00:40:44.140
pay
00:40:44.960
no
00:40:45.340
taxes
00:40:46.480
or
00:40:46.940
don't
00:40:47.620
buy
00:40:47.920
food
00:40:48.520
for
00:40:48.960
example
00:40:49.300
true
00:40:50.200
revolt
00:40:50.560
against
00:40:50.880
the
00:40:51.040
modern
00:40:51.220
world
00:40:51.500
today
00:40:51.800
is
00:40:52.000
growing
00:40:53.200
up
00:40:53.400
your
00:40:53.580
own
00:40:53.960
food
00:40:54.300
and
00:40:54.860
never
00:40:57.260
visit
00:40:57.720
Walmart
00:40:59.020
or
00:40:59.380
something
00:40:59.820
like
00:41:00.320
that
00:41:00.520
yeah
00:41:02.780
yeah
00:41:03.120
so
00:41:03.400
you're
00:41:03.720
referring
00:41:04.020
to
00:41:04.220
I
00:41:04.360
just
00:41:04.520
want
00:41:04.640
to
00:41:04.700
let
00:41:04.820
people
00:41:05.100
know
00:41:05.340
you're
00:41:05.540
referring
00:41:05.800
to
00:41:06.000
the
00:41:06.200
Greek
00:41:06.680
the
00:41:06.920
Germano
00:41:07.380
Scandinavian
00:41:08.060
the
00:41:08.320
Slavic
00:41:08.740
Russian
00:41:09.120
pagan
00:41:09.500
traditions
00:41:10.020
and
00:41:10.760
it's
00:41:10.960
called
00:41:11.140
you
00:41:11.340
refer
00:41:11.600
to
00:41:11.760
as
00:41:11.860
the
00:41:11.980
Indo-European
00:41:12.820
estate
00:41:13.320
social
00:41:13.900
structures
00:41:14.540
right
00:41:14.920
which
00:41:15.340
embodying
00:41:15.900
the
00:41:16.080
spirit
00:41:16.640
of the
00:41:16.940
European
00:41:17.240
traditions
00:41:17.720
and you
00:41:18.380
get into
00:41:18.820
these
00:41:19.060
different
00:41:19.360
kind of
00:41:19.740
estate
00:41:20.320
systems
00:41:21.620
and how
00:41:22.220
it has
00:41:22.540
their own
00:41:22.940
inherent
00:41:23.620
set of
00:41:24.100
initiations
00:41:24.880
I think
00:41:25.380
Plato also
00:41:26.180
touched upon
00:41:26.720
this
00:41:26.900
was it
00:41:27.180
Plato
00:41:27.760
who talked
00:41:28.640
about this
00:41:29.120
the different
00:41:30.580
ages that
00:41:31.280
correspond with
00:41:31.960
the estates
00:41:32.720
and the
00:41:33.440
metals
00:41:33.780
was it
00:41:34.120
Plato
00:41:34.380
or who
00:41:34.700
first
00:41:35.040
talked
00:41:35.560
about
00:41:35.720
these
00:41:35.980
this idea
00:41:38.000
I think
00:41:40.880
it's a
00:41:41.260
major
00:41:41.620
idea
00:41:42.160
and one
00:41:44.360
of the
00:41:44.600
most
00:41:44.780
important
00:41:45.400
in
00:41:46.840
pagan
00:41:47.200
traditionalism
00:41:47.940
and
00:41:48.180
Indo-European
00:41:48.960
paganism
00:41:49.720
at all
00:41:50.080
but
00:41:50.760
there is
00:41:52.040
a
00:41:52.380
special
00:41:53.900
problem
00:41:54.420
because
00:41:55.240
Jimizil
00:41:55.920
described
00:41:56.500
idealistic
00:41:57.940
types
00:41:59.640
in real
00:42:00.940
life
00:42:01.320
for example
00:42:02.080
in
00:42:02.400
India
00:42:03.900
and
00:42:04.240
Hinduism
00:42:04.780
we can
00:42:05.880
find
00:42:06.260
time
00:42:10.140
by time
00:42:10.620
but
00:42:10.920
pure
00:42:12.640
examples
00:42:15.100
of
00:42:15.540
separate
00:42:17.480
estates
00:42:18.000
in
00:42:20.600
Wagner
00:42:20.900
Schram
00:42:21.180
for example
00:42:22.120
but
00:42:23.040
in
00:42:23.420
German
00:42:23.840
society
00:42:24.360
in
00:42:24.540
ancient
00:42:24.820
German
00:42:25.080
society
00:42:25.500
there is
00:42:26.280
no
00:42:26.460
such
00:42:26.920
differentiation
00:42:29.420
people
00:42:31.340
may
00:42:31.740
time
00:42:32.440
by
00:42:32.640
time
00:42:33.000
change
00:42:33.460
their
00:42:34.080
activities
00:42:35.380
way
00:42:36.660
of
00:42:36.800
life
00:42:37.160
and
00:42:37.600
became
00:42:39.020
never
00:42:40.140
became
00:42:40.520
peasants
00:42:40.940
for example
00:42:41.500
we know
00:42:43.100
about
00:42:43.580
German
00:42:46.020
warriors
00:42:47.500
and
00:42:47.980
warlords
00:42:49.840
and
00:42:50.780
about
00:42:51.980
German
00:42:52.780
poets
00:42:53.400
and
00:42:53.920
priests
00:42:54.500
and
00:42:54.700
sacrality
00:42:55.180
but
00:42:56.060
really
00:42:57.060
close to
00:42:58.480
nothing
00:42:58.740
we know
00:42:59.180
about
00:42:59.480
their
00:42:59.700
peasantry
00:43:00.980
in the
00:43:02.600
ancient
00:43:02.880
times
00:43:03.300
not
00:43:03.960
middle
00:43:04.840
ages
00:43:05.120
for example
00:43:05.740
after
00:43:06.540
christianization
00:43:07.520
and
00:43:08.820
this
00:43:10.080
idealistic
00:43:11.880
describing
00:43:14.460
anyway
00:43:17.100
is very
00:43:18.120
important
00:43:18.660
because
00:43:19.660
they
00:43:21.260
I think
00:43:21.940
and I'm
00:43:22.740
sure
00:43:23.000
these
00:43:24.640
three
00:43:24.960
types
00:43:25.860
of
00:43:27.340
people
00:43:27.720
of
00:43:28.240
human
00:43:32.720
soul
00:43:33.520
exist
00:43:36.720
and
00:43:37.060
present
00:43:37.420
in
00:43:37.980
every
00:43:38.360
society
00:43:39.000
in
00:43:39.180
every
00:43:39.380
people
00:43:39.740
but
00:43:40.420
they
00:43:40.820
may
00:43:41.500
represent
00:43:41.960
in
00:43:42.260
different
00:43:42.860
ways
00:43:43.360
in
00:43:43.620
difficult
00:43:44.820
complex
00:43:45.640
ways
00:43:47.240
and
00:43:47.540
it's
00:43:47.940
a question
00:43:48.500
to find
00:43:49.040
them
00:43:49.360
the
00:43:50.040
regular
00:43:50.360
men
00:43:50.780
who
00:43:51.260
are
00:43:52.780
watching
00:43:53.140
for
00:43:53.340
for
00:43:57.340
example
00:43:57.960
for
00:43:58.260
horses
00:43:58.940
and
00:43:59.220
cows
00:43:59.580
in
00:44:00.460
the
00:44:00.620
steps
00:44:00.960
of
00:44:01.380
Eurase
00:44:01.880
at
00:44:03.520
night
00:44:03.880
may
00:44:04.620
become
00:44:05.160
a
00:44:05.840
shaman
00:44:06.880
and
00:44:07.800
perform
00:44:08.320
shamanic
00:44:08.940
rites
00:44:09.300
and
00:44:10.160
who
00:44:11.480
is
00:44:11.740
here
00:44:12.800
a priest
00:44:13.380
or
00:44:14.380
he's
00:44:14.900
a peasant
00:44:15.940
no
00:44:16.540
but
00:44:17.520
time
00:44:19.640
by
00:44:19.880
time
00:44:20.320
by
00:44:21.300
calendar
00:44:22.900
for
00:44:23.140
the
00:44:23.280
for
00:44:23.880
example
00:44:24.200
sacrifice
00:44:25.020
calendar
00:44:25.460
or
00:44:26.560
by
00:44:26.940
needs
00:44:27.420
he
00:44:28.540
may
00:44:29.220
leave
00:44:30.100
his
00:44:30.960
regular
00:44:32.440
activity
00:44:33.060
dress
00:44:34.080
shaman
00:44:35.600
costume
00:44:36.180
take
00:44:38.560
a
00:44:38.700
tambourine
00:44:39.300
into
00:44:40.360
the
00:44:40.520
left
00:44:40.740
hand
00:44:41.060
and
00:44:41.520
became
00:44:42.100
a
00:44:42.260
shaman
00:44:42.540
and
00:44:42.960
perform
00:44:43.560
or
00:44:44.800
travel
00:44:46.280
to
00:44:47.280
the
00:44:47.620
highest
00:44:48.700
skies
00:44:49.220
and
00:44:49.780
talking
00:44:51.440
with
00:44:51.780
ghosts
00:44:52.240
spirits
00:44:52.980
of
00:44:53.340
ancestral
00:44:53.920
and
00:44:55.660
it
00:44:57.340
is also
00:44:57.800
an
00:44:58.180
Indo-European
00:44:59.200
structure
00:44:59.680
and
00:45:00.280
in
00:45:01.320
non-Indo-European
00:45:02.440
societies
00:45:03.140
we sometimes
00:45:03.740
can
00:45:04.120
find
00:45:05.200
this
00:45:06.180
differentiation
00:45:07.360
I
00:45:09.380
think
00:45:09.540
it's
00:45:10.380
very important
00:45:11.380
because
00:45:11.720
it's
00:45:12.300
already
00:45:12.660
lost
00:45:13.120
in
00:45:13.440
modern
00:45:13.720
society
00:45:14.200
everything
00:45:15.000
mixed
00:45:15.400
we
00:45:16.080
cannot
00:45:16.400
be
00:45:17.080
sure
00:45:17.420
about
00:45:18.540
our
00:45:19.140
army
00:45:23.360
may
00:45:23.720
be
00:45:24.000
full
00:45:25.140
not
00:45:26.220
by
00:45:26.440
warriors
00:45:26.860
but
00:45:27.160
by
00:45:27.540
peasants
00:45:27.960
or
00:45:28.320
our
00:45:28.940
politicians
00:45:33.320
have
00:45:35.040
silver
00:45:36.040
or
00:45:36.380
gold
00:45:37.300
soul
00:45:37.680
by
00:45:37.920
platinum
00:45:38.340
maybe
00:45:39.020
they
00:45:39.620
have
00:45:39.820
soul
00:45:40.080
made
00:45:40.440
not
00:45:41.420
by
00:45:41.640
metal
00:45:41.980
at
00:45:42.200
all
00:45:42.480
yeah
00:45:42.800
so
00:45:43.040
it's
00:45:43.260
a
00:45:43.360
really
00:45:43.500
interesting
00:45:43.920
idea
00:45:44.380
though
00:45:44.580
the
00:45:44.780
three
00:45:45.260
estates
00:45:45.800
within
00:45:46.080
society
00:45:46.560
right
00:45:46.860
and
00:45:47.000
this
00:45:47.180
whole
00:45:47.320
idea
00:45:47.500
of
00:45:47.640
priests
00:45:47.940
kings
00:45:48.260
and
00:45:48.460
warriors
00:45:48.820
you're
00:45:49.060
right
00:45:49.240
though
00:45:49.420
now
00:45:49.660
it's
00:45:50.140
I'd
00:45:50.360
say
00:45:50.440
a
00:45:50.560
whole
00:45:50.800
lot
00:45:50.960
of
00:45:51.060
peasants
00:45:51.500
right
00:45:51.820
and
00:45:52.400
then
00:45:52.520
there
00:45:52.640
was
00:45:52.800
also
00:45:53.160
what
00:45:53.400
was it
00:45:53.700
in the
00:45:53.940
third
00:45:54.180
estate
00:45:54.580
consisted
00:45:55.220
of
00:45:55.560
farmers
00:45:56.400
artisans
00:45:57.320
and
00:45:57.660
merchants
00:45:58.060
well
00:45:58.260
we
00:45:58.380
definitely
00:45:58.560
have
00:45:58.720
merchants
00:45:59.040
today
00:45:59.360
don't
00:45:59.620
we
00:45:59.740
lots
00:45:59.980
of
00:46:00.100
merchants
00:46:00.480
it
00:46:02.340
is
00:46:02.460
also
00:46:02.660
interesting
00:46:03.280
but we
00:46:04.220
have
00:46:04.480
also
00:46:05.140
sub
00:46:07.220
estate
00:46:07.840
types
00:46:08.520
of
00:46:08.840
people
00:46:09.260
according
00:46:10.340
to
00:46:10.900
Julius
00:46:11.420
Evel
00:46:11.720
for
00:46:11.900
example
00:46:12.240
the
00:46:13.460
population
00:46:16.200
of
00:46:16.620
cities
00:46:17.760
of
00:46:18.580
middle
00:46:19.560
age
00:46:19.900
bourgeoisie
00:46:21.040
and
00:46:21.740
Soviet
00:46:24.220
or
00:46:25.020
not only
00:46:25.740
soviet
00:46:26.020
proletarians
00:46:26.780
and
00:46:27.060
now
00:46:27.240
we
00:46:27.400
have
00:46:27.560
precarious
00:46:28.380
it
00:46:29.460
is
00:46:29.600
super
00:46:30.200
super
00:46:31.560
state
00:46:32.000
types
00:46:33.100
of
00:46:33.400
people
00:46:36.240
of
00:46:36.820
human
00:46:37.660
being
00:46:38.080
for
00:46:38.360
example
00:46:38.640
and
00:46:39.200
the
00:46:39.360
French
00:46:39.780
thinker
00:46:40.740
Alain
00:46:42.140
Sorrel
00:46:42.540
in his
00:46:43.940
very good
00:46:44.960
book
00:46:45.300
to
00:46:46.020
understand
00:46:46.420
the
00:46:46.620
empire
00:46:47.040
if I
00:46:47.900
correct
00:46:48.960
if I
00:46:49.900
remember
00:46:50.180
correct
00:46:50.580
he
00:46:51.920
discussed
00:46:52.600
about
00:46:52.960
the
00:46:53.960
spirituality
00:46:55.620
and
00:46:56.420
metaphysical
00:46:57.000
role
00:46:57.360
of
00:46:57.780
third
00:46:58.360
estate
00:46:59.620
of
00:46:59.860
peasantry
00:47:00.460
and
00:47:01.320
he
00:47:01.720
advocated
00:47:02.380
peasantry
00:47:03.040
as
00:47:03.260
the
00:47:04.120
last
00:47:04.520
estate
00:47:06.040
who
00:47:06.440
saving
00:47:07.200
traditional
00:47:08.080
and
00:47:08.460
conservative
00:47:09.300
spirit
00:47:09.960
warriors
00:47:12.380
and
00:47:13.320
priests
00:47:13.820
passed
00:47:16.520
away
00:47:16.880
or
00:47:17.240
degenerate
00:47:18.560
to the
00:47:19.860
terminal
00:47:20.380
state
00:47:21.520
but
00:47:23.060
peasantry
00:47:23.760
still
00:47:26.180
saving
00:47:28.380
and
00:47:29.180
preserving
00:47:29.740
this
00:47:30.280
conservative
00:47:31.220
type
00:47:31.780
of
00:47:32.160
thinking
00:47:32.600
of way
00:47:33.160
of life
00:47:33.660
and so
00:47:34.900
on
00:47:35.060
this is
00:47:35.320
also
00:47:35.580
very
00:47:36.120
interesting
00:47:36.740
thought
00:47:37.780
and
00:47:39.700
they
00:47:41.400
I think
00:47:42.040
may be
00:47:42.620
interesting
00:47:42.940
to develop
00:47:43.860
in the
00:47:45.200
future
00:47:45.480
absolutely
00:47:46.760
yeah
00:47:47.420
another thing
00:47:48.420
I wanted
00:47:48.680
to talk
00:47:49.160
about
00:47:49.560
briefly
00:47:50.040
is
00:47:50.400
this
00:47:50.720
idea
00:47:51.180
and
00:47:51.560
we
00:47:51.680
kind
00:47:51.860
of
00:47:51.960
touched
00:47:52.180
upon
00:47:52.480
it
00:47:52.640
earlier
00:47:52.980
but
00:47:53.240
that
00:47:53.600
pagans
00:47:54.700
didn't
00:47:55.160
have
00:47:55.420
any
00:47:55.700
morality
00:47:56.460
or
00:47:56.740
this
00:47:57.000
code
00:47:57.560
of
00:47:57.720
ethics
00:47:58.120
right
00:47:58.500
but
00:47:59.200
you know
00:47:59.460
we have
00:47:59.740
the
00:47:59.860
nine
00:48:00.060
noble
00:48:00.280
virtues
00:48:00.620
before
00:48:01.120
the
00:48:01.320
ten
00:48:01.540
commandments
00:48:01.880
and
00:48:02.180
I
00:48:02.320
always
00:48:02.520
say
00:48:02.740
you're
00:48:03.160
talking
00:48:03.340
about
00:48:03.560
your
00:48:03.680
ancestors
00:48:04.300
here
00:48:04.600
you
00:48:04.720
have
00:48:04.900
to
00:48:05.000
show
00:48:05.160
some
00:48:05.360
respect
00:48:05.780
do
00:48:06.020
you
00:48:06.100
think
00:48:06.260
all
00:48:06.440
your
00:48:06.620
ancestors
00:48:07.160
were
00:48:07.520
just
00:48:07.840
well
00:48:08.120
now
00:48:08.300
heathen
00:48:08.680
has
00:48:08.820
become
00:48:09.060
like
00:48:09.220
a
00:48:09.320
dirty
00:48:09.500
word
00:48:09.780
right
00:48:09.960
we
00:48:10.100
call
00:48:10.300
it
00:48:10.420
someone
00:48:10.580
oh
00:48:10.980
you
00:48:11.180
heathen
00:48:11.700
when
00:48:11.900
you
00:48:12.020
just
00:48:12.240
behave
00:48:12.640
uncivilized
00:48:13.460
and horribly
00:48:14.020
but
00:48:14.820
that is
00:48:15.340
not
00:48:15.460
the
00:48:15.600
case
00:48:16.000
we're
00:48:17.140
talking
00:48:17.340
about
00:48:17.520
our
00:48:17.640
ancestors
00:48:18.120
we have
00:48:18.600
to
00:48:18.760
look
00:48:19.000
at
00:48:19.120
this
00:48:19.280
not
00:48:19.520
in
00:48:19.700
like
00:48:19.880
some
00:48:20.060
cartoon
00:48:20.580
version
00:48:21.020
that's
00:48:21.300
been
00:48:21.420
presented
00:48:21.780
to
00:48:22.000
us
00:48:22.180
about
00:48:22.420
what
00:48:22.880
our
00:48:23.000
ancestors
00:48:23.460
used
00:48:23.800
to
00:48:23.900
be
00:48:24.080
like
00:48:24.400
and
00:48:25.160
then
00:48:25.380
you
00:48:25.700
have
00:48:25.860
some
00:48:26.060
shows
00:48:26.360
I
00:48:26.500
enjoyed
00:48:26.780
the
00:48:26.920
vikings
00:48:27.280
show
00:48:27.540
but
00:48:27.700
they
00:48:27.840
do
00:48:28.060
show
00:48:28.340
a
00:48:28.480
lot
00:48:38.820
eating
00:48:39.520
mushrooms
00:48:40.060
and
00:48:40.260
having
00:48:40.520
orgies
00:48:41.200
and
00:48:41.400
like
00:48:41.600
worshipping
00:48:42.040
Satan
00:48:42.400
of course
00:48:43.460
that's
00:48:43.620
not
00:48:43.780
the
00:48:43.920
case
00:48:44.100
at
00:48:44.220
all
00:48:44.380
so
00:48:44.680
what
00:48:44.960
can
00:48:45.100
you
00:48:45.220
say
00:48:45.420
about
00:48:45.780
pagan
00:48:46.660
morality
00:48:47.500
and
00:48:48.340
virtues
00:48:48.700
I
00:48:51.420
want
00:48:51.700
to
00:48:52.040
notice
00:48:53.000
a
00:48:53.400
very
00:48:53.600
important
00:48:53.920
thing
00:48:54.220
there
00:48:55.180
is
00:48:55.340
no
00:48:55.680
really
00:48:57.420
really
00:48:58.040
no
00:48:58.520
universal
00:49:00.500
things
00:49:00.980
everything
00:49:02.120
we can
00:49:02.920
say
00:49:03.740
oh
00:49:04.040
it's
00:49:04.600
some
00:49:04.880
it's
00:49:05.440
universal
00:49:06.060
objective
00:49:06.680
reality
00:49:07.200
is
00:49:07.440
universal
00:49:07.960
truth
00:49:08.740
it is
00:49:09.340
a
00:49:09.640
false
00:49:10.260
statement
00:49:10.840
every
00:49:11.320
time
00:49:11.640
every
00:49:12.620
universal
00:49:13.420
testament
00:49:16.320
every
00:49:16.880
universal
00:49:18.140
thing
00:49:18.520
it's
00:49:18.960
a
00:49:19.320
local
00:49:20.720
it's
00:49:21.820
every
00:49:22.120
time
00:49:22.440
a
00:49:22.680
local
00:49:22.960
thing
00:49:23.320
but
00:49:24.400
growing up
00:49:26.120
and
00:49:26.480
established
00:49:27.820
it as
00:49:28.220
universal
00:49:28.860
by force
00:49:29.620
lie
00:49:30.420
or
00:49:31.460
in
00:49:32.360
any
00:49:32.680
other
00:49:34.720
way
00:49:35.000
so
00:49:35.680
pagan
00:49:36.920
traditionalism
00:49:37.800
did
00:49:39.060
did not
00:49:39.440
establish
00:49:41.320
any
00:49:43.480
kind of
00:49:44.160
reversal
00:49:45.920
morality
00:49:46.600
and ethics
00:49:47.180
every
00:49:47.740
time
00:49:48.120
we
00:49:49.040
should
00:49:49.840
asking
00:49:51.320
tradition
00:49:52.740
or people
00:49:53.620
we want
00:49:54.120
to know
00:49:54.620
about
00:49:55.040
them
00:49:55.780
something
00:49:56.480
or
00:49:57.200
we want
00:49:57.940
to visit
00:49:58.360
for example
00:49:58.900
them
00:49:59.200
we want
00:49:59.920
to visit
00:50:00.180
some
00:50:00.540
tribe
00:50:01.160
in
00:50:01.900
jungle
00:50:02.320
or some
00:50:03.180
pagan
00:50:04.720
community
00:50:05.320
in
00:50:05.820
northern
00:50:06.240
europe
00:50:06.600
or
00:50:07.020
in
00:50:07.420
siberia
00:50:08.160
we
00:50:09.680
must
00:50:10.140
ask
00:50:10.540
them
00:50:10.920
talking
00:50:12.020
with
00:50:12.240
them
00:50:12.420
about
00:50:12.620
guys
00:50:14.260
what
00:50:14.580
about
00:50:14.940
some
00:50:15.380
taboos
00:50:16.320
or
00:50:16.700
how we
00:50:17.580
must
00:50:17.840
look
00:50:18.220
how we
00:50:19.100
must
00:50:19.300
behave
00:50:19.620
or
00:50:19.840
what
00:50:21.040
things
00:50:21.280
we
00:50:21.560
should
00:50:22.280
not
00:50:22.940
do
00:50:23.340
in
00:50:24.180
your
00:50:25.960
society
00:50:27.040
and
00:50:27.540
in
00:50:28.540
different
00:50:29.260
traditions
00:50:29.600
we can
00:50:29.920
find
00:50:30.200
very
00:50:31.820
close
00:50:32.620
and
00:50:32.840
for
00:50:33.400
example
00:50:33.620
close
00:50:34.020
and
00:50:34.220
or
00:50:34.580
common
00:50:35.080
rules
00:50:36.100
common
00:50:36.480
morality
00:50:37.080
close
00:50:39.440
to us
00:50:39.920
or
00:50:40.100
very
00:50:40.600
far
00:50:40.880
from
00:50:41.140
us
00:50:41.460
or
00:50:42.140
really
00:50:42.820
different
00:50:43.900
kinds
00:50:44.380
of
00:50:45.420
moral
00:50:48.640
codex
00:50:49.200
maybe
00:50:50.500
looking
00:50:51.440
barbarian
00:50:52.400
for us
00:50:52.840
but
00:50:53.040
it's
00:50:53.460
also
00:50:53.760
civilizing
00:50:54.640
barbarians
00:50:55.280
modern
00:50:56.540
progressive
00:50:57.320
terms
00:50:59.800
and
00:51:00.200
totally
00:51:01.300
disqualified
00:51:01.820
to
00:51:03.120
describe
00:51:03.500
pagan
00:51:04.220
traditions
00:51:04.700
so
00:51:06.200
pagan
00:51:07.160
traditionalism
00:51:07.780
is about
00:51:08.300
plurality
00:51:09.420
of
00:51:10.300
sacred
00:51:12.420
manifestations
00:51:14.220
and
00:51:14.780
ethics
00:51:16.020
and morality
00:51:16.600
in
00:51:17.060
different
00:51:18.060
societies
00:51:18.680
they are
00:51:20.980
sovereign
00:51:22.680
for
00:51:23.600
their
00:51:24.100
people
00:51:24.540
and
00:51:25.380
I think
00:51:25.940
we must
00:51:26.400
respect
00:51:27.620
them
00:51:28.060
and
00:51:28.420
if
00:51:28.720
it's
00:51:29.500
unappreciated
00:51:30.040
to us
00:51:30.460
so
00:51:30.780
don't
00:51:31.660
talk
00:51:32.680
with
00:51:32.880
them
00:51:33.060
don't
00:51:33.380
visit
00:51:33.700
and
00:51:34.860
be free
00:51:36.300
to
00:51:36.600
do not
00:51:37.260
communicate
00:51:38.440
if you
00:51:39.540
don't
00:51:39.860
want
00:51:40.120
or
00:51:40.900
it's
00:51:41.480
against
00:51:42.080
your
00:51:42.500
ethics
00:51:43.680
and
00:51:43.880
morality
00:51:44.140
universal
00:51:44.980
ethics
00:51:45.300
it's
00:51:45.700
for example
00:51:48.000
christian
00:51:49.240
ethics
00:51:49.660
it is
00:51:51.100
it is a
00:51:51.240
local
00:51:51.600
story
00:51:52.460
but
00:51:53.680
this
00:51:53.900
local
00:51:54.360
local
00:51:56.100
assemblation
00:51:56.760
local
00:51:57.300
range
00:51:57.740
of
00:51:57.980
rules
00:51:58.740
was
00:51:59.860
forced
00:52:00.880
forcet
00:52:01.600
globally
00:52:03.660
and
00:52:04.080
always
00:52:04.880
destroy
00:52:05.500
the
00:52:06.240
locals
00:52:06.760
local
00:52:08.380
customs
00:52:09.260
local
00:52:09.900
taboos
00:52:12.240
and so
00:52:12.780
it is
00:52:13.520
gears
00:52:16.000
of
00:52:17.060
cultural
00:52:18.420
genocide
00:52:19.440
for me
00:52:19.860
so
00:52:20.940
plurality
00:52:22.060
it is a hard
00:52:22.780
thing
00:52:23.160
it is not a
00:52:24.040
multicoralism
00:52:25.000
or
00:52:25.460
total
00:52:28.000
relativism
00:52:28.880
no
00:52:29.120
we're talking about
00:52:30.000
real
00:52:30.780
traditional
00:52:32.120
plurality
00:52:34.120
which
00:52:37.040
is
00:52:37.680
manifest
00:52:38.480
of
00:52:40.580
deity
00:52:41.300
so
00:52:42.240
it is
00:52:42.520
not
00:52:42.700
imaginative
00:52:45.320
construction
00:52:45.980
or
00:52:46.880
synthetic
00:52:48.100
artificial
00:52:48.960
structures
00:52:51.340
or
00:52:52.460
list
00:52:53.180
of what
00:52:53.900
we should
00:52:54.240
or shouldn't
00:52:54.900
do
00:52:55.200
and how
00:52:55.980
we behave
00:52:56.420
no
00:52:56.700
yeah
00:52:57.220
I think
00:52:57.460
that's
00:52:57.700
what's
00:52:58.280
what's
00:52:58.440
hard
00:52:58.620
for
00:52:58.780
people
00:52:59.000
they want
00:52:59.500
it simple
00:52:59.960
they want
00:53:00.360
it in
00:53:00.620
a bible
00:53:01.040
they want
00:53:01.440
a rule
00:53:01.780
book
00:53:02.020
like here's
00:53:02.480
the things
00:53:02.860
you can
00:53:03.260
and can't
00:53:03.740
do
00:53:04.060
right
00:53:04.420
whereas
00:53:04.980
with us
00:53:05.400
it's like
00:53:05.760
it's kind
00:53:06.200
of written
00:53:06.580
within
00:53:07.140
like the
00:53:07.860
code of
00:53:08.340
honor
00:53:08.720
is within
00:53:09.440
like you
00:53:09.920
learn that
00:53:10.500
through time
00:53:11.040
I know
00:53:11.680
that Cornelius
00:53:12.580
Tacitus
00:53:13.100
right
00:53:13.540
the greatest
00:53:14.480
Roman historian
00:53:15.420
had all
00:53:16.340
these great
00:53:16.860
things to say
00:53:17.580
about German
00:53:18.420
barbarians
00:53:19.240
and their
00:53:19.540
code of
00:53:19.940
ethics
00:53:20.280
and their
00:53:20.760
morality
00:53:21.560
and how
00:53:22.240
their views
00:53:23.040
on adultery
00:53:23.900
and lying
00:53:25.620
and you know
00:53:26.540
so they had
00:53:27.200
a code of
00:53:27.740
ethics
00:53:28.080
within
00:53:28.760
and they lived
00:53:29.800
up to it
00:53:30.300
and if you
00:53:30.920
were a bad
00:53:31.340
person you
00:53:31.780
would get
00:53:32.060
iced out of
00:53:32.600
that village
00:53:33.060
or that
00:53:33.400
tribe
00:53:34.060
like you
00:53:34.360
so you
00:53:34.620
had to
00:53:34.920
behave
00:53:35.220
especially
00:53:35.600
in these
00:53:36.000
cold places
00:53:36.580
where you
00:53:36.980
all had to
00:53:37.540
pull together
00:53:38.420
you're in
00:53:38.780
Siberia
00:53:39.220
you know
00:53:39.640
if there's
00:53:40.320
one guy
00:53:40.780
that's acting
00:53:41.260
like an idiot
00:53:41.800
or stealing
00:53:42.400
from people
00:53:42.980
or treating
00:53:43.380
people badly
00:53:44.020
they're not
00:53:44.380
going to like
00:53:44.800
him he's
00:53:45.120
probably going
00:53:45.460
to get thrown
00:53:45.880
out of the
00:53:46.260
village
00:53:46.560
right
00:53:46.860
Vikings
00:53:48.020
kings also
00:53:48.420
they despised
00:53:51.000
people who
00:53:51.460
who didn't
00:53:51.680
honor their
00:53:52.120
words
00:53:52.400
if someone
00:53:52.780
had a
00:53:53.220
dispute
00:53:53.620
to settle
00:53:54.120
they can
00:53:54.520
challenge
00:53:55.060
that person
00:53:55.860
in a duel
00:53:56.520
it was called
00:53:56.880
a home
00:53:57.360
gang
00:53:57.740
like I've
00:53:58.180
learned all
00:53:58.580
these different
00:53:59.100
things that
00:53:59.800
you know
00:54:00.460
Norse culture
00:54:01.120
had
00:54:01.680
that proves
00:54:02.920
time and
00:54:03.380
time and
00:54:03.640
again
00:54:03.880
that you
00:54:04.340
know
00:54:04.560
there was a
00:54:05.340
code of
00:54:05.660
ethics
00:54:05.920
it could also
00:54:06.680
be a matter
00:54:07.180
of honor
00:54:07.740
like if you
00:54:08.420
insulted
00:54:09.140
someone
00:54:09.600
exactly
00:54:10.000
if you
00:54:10.280
call them
00:54:10.680
the equivalent
00:54:11.220
of a
00:54:11.980
fag
00:54:12.460
or gay
00:54:13.340
back then
00:54:14.540
was like
00:54:14.940
the greatest
00:54:15.440
insult
00:54:16.040
like that guy
00:54:16.920
can challenge
00:54:17.560
you to
00:54:18.080
death
00:54:18.460
you know
00:54:19.140
so I
00:54:19.420
think it's
00:54:19.900
interesting
00:54:20.360
that there's
00:54:20.740
so many
00:54:21.160
of these
00:54:21.640
aspects
00:54:22.420
but just
00:54:22.800
because it
00:54:23.200
wasn't
00:54:23.460
written down
00:54:23.980
in a nice
00:54:24.540
little rule
00:54:25.000
book
00:54:25.260
people think
00:54:25.860
that it
00:54:26.320
didn't
00:54:26.880
it couldn't
00:54:27.600
have
00:54:27.860
existed
00:54:28.380
yes
00:54:29.300
just in
00:54:30.380
Europe
00:54:30.740
we have
00:54:32.740
a really
00:54:34.040
closest or
00:54:35.060
common
00:54:35.500
set of
00:54:36.840
rules
00:54:38.660
or ethical
00:54:39.680
statements
00:54:40.760
so
00:54:41.440
if you
00:54:42.860
are talking
00:54:44.580
just about
00:54:45.300
Europe
00:54:45.600
it is
00:54:46.000
really
00:54:46.540
the question
00:54:47.100
became
00:54:47.540
easily
00:54:48.200
or
00:54:49.040
if we
00:54:49.520
look
00:54:49.900
in
00:54:50.040
white
00:54:50.420
it's
00:54:51.460
a
00:54:51.800
more
00:54:52.600
complicated
00:54:53.280
question
00:54:55.200
and
00:54:55.520
just
00:54:56.240
for me
00:54:57.100
it's
00:54:57.340
interesting
00:54:58.120
to
00:54:58.480
thinking
00:54:58.860
about
00:54:59.400
more
00:54:59.740
complicated
00:55:00.320
but
00:55:01.280
I
00:55:01.840
can
00:55:05.160
agree
00:55:05.480
with you
00:55:06.120
about
00:55:06.520
people
00:55:07.600
really
00:55:07.880
want
00:55:08.220
to
00:55:08.600
some
00:55:09.460
easy
00:55:10.240
to
00:55:12.400
go
00:55:13.040
to
00:55:13.200
by
00:55:13.580
easy
00:55:13.800
way
00:55:14.080
and
00:55:14.880
in
00:55:15.320
Europe
00:55:15.600
we
00:55:15.880
can
00:55:16.140
fight
00:55:17.080
find
00:55:18.140
find
00:55:18.160
this
00:55:20.180
virtues
00:55:21.140
this
00:55:21.700
morality
00:55:23.100
and
00:55:24.800
from
00:55:26.420
people
00:55:26.960
to
00:55:27.140
people
00:55:27.380
will be
00:55:28.000
very
00:55:28.240
close
00:55:28.640
don't
00:55:31.300
kill
00:55:31.540
don't
00:55:31.900
thief
00:55:32.680
but
00:55:33.840
but
00:55:33.860
in
00:55:34.260
for
00:55:35.660
example
00:55:36.020
some
00:55:37.420
cultures
00:55:38.740
stole
00:55:40.820
something
00:55:41.340
from
00:55:41.940
different
00:55:42.760
tribes
00:55:43.240
it's
00:55:43.900
a
00:55:44.340
future
00:55:44.580
you
00:55:45.020
are
00:55:45.300
very
00:55:45.680
good
00:55:45.900
man
00:55:46.140
if
00:55:46.340
you
00:55:46.560
can
00:55:47.140
stole
00:55:47.580
something
00:55:48.000
and
00:55:48.500
they
00:55:48.920
didn't
00:55:49.220
catch
00:55:49.500
you
00:55:49.920
yeah
00:55:51.860
if
00:55:52.220
you
00:55:52.300
can
00:55:52.440
go
00:55:52.600
and
00:55:52.760
loot
00:55:53.000
them
00:55:53.280
well
00:55:53.720
a lot
00:55:53.960
of
00:55:54.000
times
00:55:54.180
the
00:55:54.300
Vikings
00:55:54.580
were
00:55:54.760
looting
00:55:55.040
because
00:55:55.300
it was
00:55:55.520
revenge
00:55:56.060
for
00:55:56.280
the
00:55:56.440
crusades
00:55:57.020
too
00:55:57.320
right
00:55:57.600
and
00:55:57.800
then
00:55:58.060
they
00:55:58.700
were
00:55:58.820
such
00:55:59.000
good
00:55:59.200
fighters
00:55:59.580
and
00:55:59.960
the
00:56:00.160
Christians
00:56:00.520
are
00:56:00.680
like
00:56:00.860
hey
00:56:00.980
come
00:56:01.200
fight
00:56:01.420
for
00:56:01.580
us
00:56:01.900
right
00:56:02.220
oh
00:56:03.660
man
00:56:05.900
well
00:56:06.040
there's
00:56:06.220
so much
00:56:06.600
more
00:56:06.820
I
00:56:06.920
want
00:56:07.020
to
00:56:07.100
get
00:56:07.220
into
00:56:07.460
so
00:56:07.600
I
00:56:07.720
think
00:56:07.840
that
00:56:07.980
we
00:56:08.080
should
00:56:08.240
take
00:56:08.440
a
00:56:08.540
little
00:56:08.660
break
00:56:09.060
and
00:56:09.340
then
00:56:09.500
continue
00:56:09.860
a
00:56:10.060
little
00:56:10.180
more
00:56:10.540
while
00:56:10.860
we
00:56:11.020
have
00:56:19.920
together
00:56:20.460
the
00:56:20.700
end
00:56:20.900
of
00:56:21.060
days
00:56:21.440
the
00:56:21.600
culmination
00:56:22.160
of
00:56:22.380
the
00:56:22.560
Kali Yuga
00:56:23.260
and
00:56:23.540
the
00:56:23.680
Ragnarok
00:56:24.280
and
00:56:24.440
this
00:56:24.600
war
00:56:25.200
against
00:56:25.560
reality
00:56:26.120
what
00:56:26.680
is
00:56:26.940
the
00:56:27.140
fate
00:56:27.440
of
00:56:27.680
Europe
00:56:28.060
and
00:56:28.340
the
00:56:28.520
destiny
00:56:29.000
of
00:56:29.420
the
00:56:29.560
world
00:56:29.840
also
00:56:30.160
I
00:56:30.320
kind
00:56:30.480
of
00:56:30.560
wanted
00:56:30.700
to
00:56:30.780
get
00:56:30.880
a
00:56:31.020
little
00:56:31.140
bit
00:56:31.300
into
00:56:31.580
the
00:56:31.840
hero
00:56:32.180
and
00:56:32.340
the
00:56:32.460
martyr
00:56:32.800
manifestation
00:56:34.040
ism
00:56:34.560
I
00:56:34.720
want
00:56:34.860
to
00:56:34.920
hear
00:56:35.040
about
00:56:35.260
paganism
00:56:35.900
in
00:56:36.100
Russia
00:56:36.480
and
00:56:37.100
much
00:56:37.340
more
00:56:37.540
so
00:56:37.700
join
00:56:37.920
us
00:56:38.080
on
00:56:38.180
the
00:56:38.260
other
00:56:38.420
side
00:56:38.680
we're
00:56:40.720
going
00:56:40.860
to
00:56:40.980
continue
00:56:41.340
part
00:56:41.640
two
00:56:41.840
with
00:56:42.000
asker
00:56:42.380
on
00:56:42.560
red
00:56:42.840
ice
00:56:43.100
members
00:56:43.460
dot
00:56:43.700
com
00:56:43.960
not
00:56:44.220
yet
00:56:44.400
a
00:56:44.500
member
00:56:44.720
subscribe
00:56:45.140
now
00:56:45.620
it's
00:56:45.800
with
00:56:45.940
your
00:56:46.260
support
00:56:46.720
that
00:56:47.220
we're
00:56:47.400
able
00:56:47.700
to
00:56:47.880
do
00:56:48.080
what
00:56:48.280
we
00:56:48.460
can
00:56:48.660
do
00:56:48.920
against
00:56:49.300
all
00:56:49.720
odds
00:56:50.240
the
00:56:50.660
phase
00:56:50.940
of
00:56:51.060
this
00:56:51.240
cycle
00:56:51.560
requires
00:56:52.160
all
00:56:52.700
types
00:56:53.000
of
00:56:53.140
talents
00:56:53.480
to be
00:56:53.800
involved
00:56:54.160
peasants
00:56:54.860
farmers
00:56:56.240
merchants
00:56:57.240
artisans
00:56:58.000
warriors
00:56:58.580
priests
00:56:59.200
and
00:56:59.600
kings
00:57:00.020
well
00:57:00.260
you
00:57:00.400
know
00:57:00.540
what
00:57:00.660
I
00:57:00.780
mean
00:57:00.980
thank
00:57:01.720
you
00:57:01.860
executive
00:57:02.300
producers
00:57:02.820
T
00:57:03.200
Lothrop
00:57:03.800
Stoddard
00:57:04.420
V
00:57:04.720
Miller
00:57:05.160
Resin
00:57:05.720
Revolt
00:57:06.120
and
00:57:06.340
good
00:57:06.540
luck
00:57:06.880
lap
00:57:07.280
see
00:57:07.580
you
00:57:07.840
on
00:57:08.040
the
00:57:08.160
other
00:57:08.300
side
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