Red Ice TV - July 31, 2022


Askr Svarte - The Rise of Pagan Traditionalism in Modern Times


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57 minutes

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116.87948

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6,679

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155

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

Asker Svart is a notable Russian pagan intellectual who has written a two-volume book called Polmos, The Dawn of Pagan Traditionalism. It was originally published in Russian but now published in English, it leaves no stone unturned in relation to the true essence of European paganism and how it relates to us in the modern world today.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, I'm Lana. My guest, Asker Svart, is a notable Russian
00:00:19.620 pagan intellectual. He's written a two-volume book that you must read. It's called Polmos,
00:00:24.580 The Dawn of Pagan Traditionalism. It was originally published in Russian, but you can
00:00:29.000 read it in English. It leaves no stone unturned in relation to the true essence of European paganism
00:00:35.360 and how it relates to us in the modern world today. And there's a reason why
00:00:39.780 there's a great resurgence of pagan traditionalism in the modern era. So, welcome, Asker.
00:00:47.120 Welcome, everyone, and thank you for your invitation for me.
00:00:53.700 Yeah, thank you for your work. Much was actually unfamiliar to me. I mean, I'm a Slav. I have
00:00:58.840 Russian ancestors. And so, you highlighted a lot of different authors and thinkers,
00:01:04.540 several I heard of, but there was a lot that I hadn't heard of, which gives us a lot of goodies
00:01:09.000 to dig into. So, it's been a while since I enjoyed a book this much. So, thank you. I appreciate that.
00:01:14.360 Even if some things were lost in translation, we're still getting the essence of it.
00:01:18.260 And I noticed, too, I just want to give a shout-out to those in your book as well,
00:01:22.080 because at the very core of your work lies a spirit of Italian thinker Julius Evola, right,
00:01:28.040 who established traditionalism. I'm a big fan of myself. Oswald Spanger, Nietzsche, Martin Heidegger.
00:01:34.700 Also, you stand on the shoulders of Alain de Benoit in his book on being a pagan. He's still alive,
00:01:40.160 so I still need to get him on the show. But you are of German roots, right, in Siberia. So,
00:01:46.580 tell us that story.
00:01:48.360 In Siberia, a lot of Germans, but all of them were exited from so-called Volga Deutsche
00:01:57.340 and Bissarabian Deutsche, or Ukrainian Deutsche, who lived on other bank of river Gnester.
00:02:10.680 It's near-modern Odessa. Anyway, it's an umbrella term of Bissarabian Deutsche. And my ancestors
00:02:21.120 were exited from this land before and during the Second World War, because they were Germans,
00:02:32.740 and Soviet Union was in war with Third Reich. So, a lot of people were moved into Siberia,
00:02:47.800 into the North Kazakhstan, Altai Mountains, the region of Republic of Altai in modern Russia.
00:02:55.240 So, that's how my direct ancestors came to this land, and it's because I'm from Siberia.
00:03:08.640 Wow, what a journey in Siberia. I mean, that's not an easy place to live, I can imagine. I mean,
00:03:13.800 it's cold and it's rough, so it makes, I'm sure you're probably a tough person. There's a lot of
00:03:19.300 tough people up there, right? I hope so.
00:03:21.920 It was very hard-boiled people to live in Russia and in Siberia, too. And they were persecuted,
00:03:34.680 killed in Stalin's repression period in 1930s. For example, my grandfather was killed by NKVD,
00:03:47.500 and it's a regular story among national minorities. Germans were national minorities in the Soviet Union.
00:03:58.360 Yeah, I thought, hey, I thought white people couldn't be minorities. I'm just joking.
00:04:01.860 Well, the one plus, too, about Siberia is there's probably no transsexuals up there.
00:04:06.440 So, at least you're free from that. But we're going to discuss the foundations of
00:04:11.500 pagan traditionalism. You've written a huge book on this. It's important to understand also,
00:04:16.540 I think, the nuances of paganism in this postmodern era and kind of like an updated version to fit
00:04:22.620 the things that we're going through. But I just want to know how you went, just briefly tell us how
00:04:26.900 you went from the Orthodox faith to becoming a pagan, because everyone kind of has their journey of how
00:04:33.140 they rediscovered the old native folk ways, right?
00:04:36.720 I think my story isn't unique. I think it's a regular story. When you become a youth person,
00:04:48.640 you're interested about fundamental questions about how everything became exist, for example.
00:04:59.280 meaning of life, the source or origin of being of all entities, and so on. And you find questions in science,
00:05:09.560 in some spiritual, esoterical teachings. I'm glad I find a good, not new age, and more traditional,
00:05:20.480 traditionalistic authors, and they really inspired me in the young age. So, my spiritual journey is very short
00:05:32.480 and very simple. I never was an Orthodox Christian. I became pagan by one step. About six months, I was a Slavic pagan,
00:05:48.480 a Slavic pagan, but found my German roots. I learned about the Germans, and I became an
00:05:56.640 Odinist, a follower of the God Odin and German tradition in general.
00:06:02.560 That's right, the Germanic-Scandinavian path. That absolutely makes sense. Yeah. I think a good place
00:06:07.920 to begin is to define paganism. Later, we're going to get into what it's not. That is something I've been
00:06:14.440 talking about a lot lately because the word pagan is misused, you know, also by liberals and also by
00:06:22.200 Christians. So, it's really irritating. But on, let's see, page 25 of your book, I just wanted to
00:06:28.840 read. You had this nice little passage here. Paganism is a song, a beautiful song of eternal
00:06:34.520 wisdom and unity, a forgotten but not lost song. Today, in the era of modernity and the dark age,
00:06:39.880 one can ever more often hear the tune and melody of this ancient song, a tune which, although faint,
00:06:45.080 nuanced, and fragmentary in its memory, is certain in its deep element. If you are reading these lines,
00:06:51.000 and you have likely in one way or another been touched by this melody. I thought that that was
00:06:56.280 beautiful. So, maybe you can get into a little bit about your definition of paganism. I know it's
00:07:01.720 huge. And we're going to get into some of the big points of what it is.
00:07:07.560 Yes, of course. And we face first troubles starting the term. And I want to draw attention to
00:07:19.320 our new article we prepared with Jeff Arnold, the editor-in-chief of Publishing House,
00:07:29.080 about this term, the pagandom. We use, we find this term and offer to use this term, not paganism,
00:07:41.240 but pagandom, because the language is a very important matter. And
00:07:47.720 in Russia, we have a unique term to name paganism. The term sounds yizuchistva. And in this term,
00:08:00.600 we hear at the same time, it's three meanings. Language, mother tongue, folk or people or ethnos,
00:08:11.400 and religion or tradition. All of three of them in Russian language,
00:08:19.160 arise from one root, yizik. Yizik is the same time, ethnos, language, and yizuchistva, like pagan dom.
00:08:30.760 So, it's impossible to translate into German language, into English language,
00:08:40.040 language, this constellation of meanings. And pagandom, for me, is the language in which the
00:08:52.360 sacred finds and manifests itself in the world, in every potential morbidity,
00:08:59.320 and on earth, in the wide range of peoples who live there. And we may define paganism in more
00:09:11.240 Heideggerian way. Paganism is the way design settles itself into the world. It's how
00:09:19.320 being represented manifests its richness in many or infinity ways
00:09:37.080 and people traditions. Any tradition is a whole universe. And we have a lot of pagan traditions,
00:09:45.000 so we have a lot of hermetic universes. So, pagandom, it's an umbrella term of paganism,
00:10:00.040 unite all of them in the deepest origin, or deepest state of dominate of paganism. Paganism is
00:10:07.080 the most ancient and the most authentic way to represent sacred and
00:10:20.760 unique way of any or every who lived in every corner of our world.
00:10:29.400 That's right. And it must also not be forgotten, and you had said this too, that the philosophers in
00:10:36.680 Greece and Rome, almost without exception, were all pagans, right? And that both Christian and Islamic
00:10:42.520 theology is really drawn on the spiritual traditions of ancient paganism. People just tend to think that
00:10:48.360 this is just something new, or it's just some, either something new or just some little relic of the past.
00:10:55.400 But actually, paganism has been at the foundation of a lot of the greatest civilizations on the planet.
00:11:02.680 You know, people also forget too that Buddhists and Hindus are pagans, right? The non-European versions,
00:11:07.800 we had Egypt, the Greco-Roman civilization, Norse, I mean, Asian, like it's massive, right? They weren't
00:11:14.840 just backwoods hillbillies who were uneducated, uncivilized, and didn't have any, you know,
00:11:20.920 their own mythology and customs and traditions and morals. People tend to think that pagans are
00:11:26.360 just a bunch of degenerates, right? Until the Abrahamic faiths showed up and showed them the
00:11:31.480 way. But that is, of course, the complete opposite. That is not true. You say paganism is not a relic of
00:11:37.640 the past. Paganism is very much alive and wields a critical analysis of the past, present, and future,
00:11:43.480 with the potential to return to the forefront of consciousness. And this we are going to explore,
00:11:48.360 because people also don't realize how much paganism is a part of our everyday life and
00:11:53.240 the traditions that we celebrate, some of the holidays, some of the ways that we think,
00:11:57.480 right? Now, how is paganism currently perceived wrongfully? I want to read one passage in your
00:12:04.280 book here. It says, Paganism is often misrepresented by outsiders variously as a fad of the counterculture
00:12:10.680 associated with hippies and black metal or the like, or an offshoot of Satanism. I hear this all
00:12:16.280 the time. It's not even that. We're mixed with these New Age ideas that are fabricated in part
00:12:21.960 by writings of so-called pagans of the New Age variety. Now, I know Julius Evola was also critical
00:12:28.120 of a lot of the neo-paganist movement like you and like these basically liberals that are coming
00:12:34.120 in and hijacking it and New Agers and all this. So, what do you have to say about that?
00:12:41.160 Yes, it's a common problem in Russia, in Europe, in America, North or South. It's a misunderstanding and
00:12:54.040 misrepresented. For example, New Agers, hippie, left liberals, soft theology,
00:13:08.280 groups of eco-sexuals, for example. They are very loud and if you are loud, it's easy to draw attention by
00:13:19.160 the media and became famous and popular. But it is a fake way. It's a way to establish the fake
00:13:28.600 representation of ancient tradition living in the modern era. So, the same in this problem
00:13:38.840 continues in religion studies, in political, in political, and of course,
00:13:48.760 the role of Christian propaganda fighting with new religion movements and sex and Orthodox Church,
00:14:05.000 for example, in Russia fighting with pagans. It is also part of or aspects of one problem of mis-
00:14:18.040 misrepresented, misrepresented and misunderstanding what paganism is. Paganism is not materialism,
00:14:29.320 hedonism, consumerism. It is the most known misunderstanding about what paganism is. It's a big deal,
00:14:41.480 big business for pagan movements in Europe and not only in Europe, in ethnic regions, in Russia, in Asia, in South
00:14:55.800 Asia, for example, in South America, about how they can represent themselves in society, in modern
00:15:09.000 society, in politics, in adequate way. To not be associated with left liberals or extremely far-right
00:15:19.400 groups or left communist groups or left communist groups or any kind of misrepresenting ideology, for
00:15:29.400 example, because many of them use some pagans, non-government organizations and so on to achieve their
00:15:40.840 political goals, for example, but not to represent and follow goals need to be reached by pagans themselves.
00:15:53.560 That's right. Yeah. And a lot of the pagan organizations that you hear about, maybe like
00:16:00.840 a lot of a lot of people think, oh, it's Wiccan, right? Wicca has nothing to do with it. You get
00:16:04.920 into that in your book and also like a lot of the neo-pagan organizations. I don't know if it's like
00:16:09.720 this in Russia, but it's focused on like progressivism and tolerance and diversity and
00:16:16.440 feminism and the liberal world order. And then when you have groups that aren't like you have the AFA and
00:16:22.200 oldness in America, all different kind, all types, we're attacked as being, you know, white supremacists,
00:16:27.560 you know, because European people can't have anything that is their own, especially in America. I think it's
00:16:32.360 anywhere now. It's getting attacked, right? You don't have any folk faiths and you're not indigenous anywhere and
00:16:38.680 it's all racist and white supremacist and colonialist. And of course, that's a lie. It has nothing to do with
00:16:44.600 liberals, liberals and what elites do today also, because I've been hearing a lot of people say what these
00:16:50.160 globalist elites are doing, that they're just pagans. Now, they're not pagans. Like people bring up
00:16:56.720 Bohemian Grove, you know, with their LARPy little, you know, rituals that they do, burning care or
00:17:02.680 whatever, and Moloch, which is, you know, in the Bible and everything. But these people are not, you
00:17:07.780 know, praising Odin and Thor and channeling Slavic gods and Roman gods and teaching us about pagan
00:17:14.260 traditionalism. They're like, they're against folk. They're against blood and soil. You know,
00:17:19.920 they're the opposite of that. I mean, Thor's hammer is on the ADL's hate symbol list. The
00:17:26.020 coal of rot and ancient symbols. It ruins. In Russia too. Runes. Same problem. It's crazy. So I would say
00:17:33.840 that these elites are trying to form this kind of, a lot of them are atheists, but they're kind of doing
00:17:37.860 this new age kind of bullshit religion that isn't really anything real. What do you have to say to
00:17:44.920 that response that when people say elites are pagans? I think it's like, it is a part of
00:17:53.200 right-wing conservative conspirology inspired by Christian ideology and Christian propaganda,
00:18:01.060 because it is a part of, in America it's protestant, protestant conspirology. In Russia it's Christian
00:18:11.700 orthodox conspirology, but they're really the same. And it originated from this side. They think, of course,
00:18:22.260 if global elites are evil and purely satanic worshippers, so they're also a pagan,
00:18:31.060 masonic and illuminati and so on, so on, so on. And maybe they are all, of course, they're lizards.
00:18:39.780 It's the same bullshit. We know everything about it. It is a part of conspirology and propaganda,
00:18:49.220 or orthodox or, anyway, christian in general, ideology and agenda. So it's just a fake, because for christians,
00:19:05.300 pagans, pagans mean satanic, it's an unbrokeable chain of equal, equal naming. So it's impossible to
00:19:20.660 explain them. Okay, elites, they perform really strange rites or meetings near the giant oval made
00:19:31.700 by concrete
00:19:34.420 from concrete
00:19:35.120 but okay they may be
00:19:38.020 really satanic but they're not pagans
00:19:40.100 at all because
00:19:41.220 if they will
00:19:43.620 they are pagans
00:19:45.180 so why they
00:19:47.220 persecute
00:19:48.960 adequate real pagans
00:19:51.360 all around the world and
00:19:53.620 show the green
00:19:55.640 green light
00:19:56.700 and open
00:19:59.400 open roads to the really
00:20:03.020 fakes and crazy
00:20:04.860 post-modern
00:20:07.460 new age groups
00:20:08.340 it's impossible
00:20:11.360 to explain them and
00:20:12.980 it's possible
00:20:15.120 to understand only inside the
00:20:16.960 conspiracy type of thing
00:20:19.260 so for me it's not
00:20:21.520 a
00:20:21.960 problem because it's
00:20:25.240 important, impossible
00:20:27.260 to explain so there is no place to die
00:20:29.380 yeah
00:20:29.880 and what I find is the ADLs
00:20:33.520 and these elites
00:20:34.280 they're constantly terrified of this
00:20:36.440 resurgence of
00:20:37.960 Indo-European paganism
00:20:39.660 why? Because it's rooting us
00:20:41.440 into an old traditionalism
00:20:43.660 that keeps us grounded
00:20:45.180 and focused and aware
00:20:47.160 of a lot of the
00:20:49.340 crap that's going on
00:20:51.020 the lies that are pushed on us
00:20:52.520 it doesn't work on us
00:20:54.040 because we're rooted in something
00:20:56.860 deep and old
00:20:57.820 and we have our own
00:20:58.700 belief system
00:20:59.520 we're like
00:21:00.560 armed with this truth
00:21:02.000 where they're trying to push
00:21:03.040 this fake version
00:21:04.120 of reality
00:21:05.500 right
00:21:05.920 and transhumanism
00:21:07.000 and all this trans stuff
00:21:08.260 and all this liberal stuff
00:21:09.180 that isn't really
00:21:09.980 real
00:21:10.740 right
00:21:11.360 and we're going to get
00:21:11.940 into that
00:21:12.340 but I want to
00:21:12.860 if you could summarize
00:21:14.280 at the core
00:21:15.720 of Indo-European
00:21:17.520 paganism
00:21:18.080 what is at the core
00:21:19.140 like a lot of
00:21:19.900 Christians would say
00:21:20.840 the main focus
00:21:21.680 is to follow Jesus
00:21:22.940 right
00:21:23.500 it's real simple
00:21:24.180 like we follow Jesus
00:21:25.180 what would a pagan say
00:21:26.800 now I know you have
00:21:27.660 800 pages of information
00:21:29.380 on this
00:21:29.960 but
00:21:30.260 if someone was brand new
00:21:32.540 coming to this
00:21:33.400 what would you say
00:21:34.500 is at the essence
00:21:35.760 the core of paganism
00:21:41.820 and I think
00:21:43.080 not only Indo-European
00:21:44.840 we can find the same
00:21:46.580 statement in
00:21:48.900 non Indo-European traditions
00:21:52.100 it's
00:21:52.720 follow your destiny
00:21:54.720 follow your
00:21:55.760 dharma
00:21:56.760 it's
00:21:57.240 follow your Jew
00:21:58.400 you
00:21:59.660 must
00:22:00.600 realize
00:22:02.540 your
00:22:03.700 dharma
00:22:04.700 in your
00:22:05.500 life
00:22:06.200 in the
00:22:06.720 midgarth
00:22:07.340 of the
00:22:07.720 middle
00:22:08.020 middle world
00:22:09.740 of the
00:22:10.540 reality
00:22:11.220 of
00:22:11.540 the
00:22:12.020 phenomenological
00:22:12.620 reality
00:22:13.160 in this
00:22:15.100 life
00:22:15.780 and
00:22:16.820 if you
00:22:18.080 don't
00:22:18.560 realize
00:22:19.160 your
00:22:19.760 destiny
00:22:20.500 your
00:22:20.860 fate
00:22:21.380 by your
00:22:25.160 by your
00:22:27.820 will
00:22:28.160 so
00:22:28.900 this fate
00:22:29.860 will
00:22:30.460 will lead you
00:22:35.980 anyway
00:22:36.720 you can deny it
00:22:38.540 you can
00:22:39.040 say
00:22:39.900 I don't believe
00:22:40.940 in fate
00:22:41.240 but fate
00:22:41.880 will lead you
00:22:43.500 anyway
00:22:43.940 and you
00:22:44.700 will face
00:22:45.340 every
00:22:46.480 milestone
00:22:47.620 of your
00:22:48.240 fate
00:22:48.560 of your fate
00:22:49.520 of your destiny
00:22:50.380 and
00:22:51.940 it's
00:22:53.560 unavoidable
00:22:54.680 unavoidable
00:22:55.680 structure
00:23:01.880 of
00:23:02.380 Indo-European
00:23:03.880 and not only
00:23:04.920 in the
00:23:05.220 European
00:23:05.640 religions
00:23:06.080 and this
00:23:08.140 destiny
00:23:08.600 is
00:23:09.240 given by
00:23:11.920 deities
00:23:13.920 by
00:23:14.380 for example
00:23:15.420 in the
00:23:16.160 north
00:23:16.340 traditions
00:23:16.860 three norms
00:23:17.860 and
00:23:19.000 it's
00:23:19.680 predeterminated
00:23:21.340 by
00:23:21.760 your soul
00:23:23.120 in
00:23:23.960 Asia
00:23:25.380 in India
00:23:26.240 it's called
00:23:27.220 karma
00:23:28.880 the law
00:23:29.620 of harm
00:23:30.240 of cycle
00:23:32.680 of rebirth
00:23:33.200 and so on
00:23:34.480 in
00:23:35.640 European
00:23:36.940 traditions
00:23:37.480 different
00:23:38.840 a little bit
00:23:39.840 different
00:23:40.560 structure
00:23:41.060 for example
00:23:41.680 platonical
00:23:42.380 teaching about
00:23:43.520 metals
00:23:45.280 of the soul
00:23:46.160 the golden soul
00:23:47.080 the silver soul
00:23:48.180 and bronze soul
00:23:49.540 so there's
00:23:50.360 different
00:23:50.900 types
00:23:52.500 of
00:23:52.960 possible
00:23:54.440 destinies
00:23:55.060 a variation
00:23:55.600 of possible
00:23:56.280 destinies
00:23:57.380 for
00:23:57.820 men
00:23:58.520 living
00:23:59.740 in the world
00:24:00.620 and
00:24:01.800 not to
00:24:03.980 follow
00:24:04.360 Jesus
00:24:05.120 or
00:24:05.680 any
00:24:06.860 other
00:24:07.480 hero
00:24:09.220 but to
00:24:09.660 follow
00:24:09.880 your
00:24:10.200 inner
00:24:10.700 divine
00:24:12.760 destiny
00:24:13.420 or destiny
00:24:14.180 given
00:24:15.160 to you
00:24:15.960 by
00:24:16.220 your
00:24:16.700 lead
00:24:17.060 deity
00:24:17.860 deity
00:24:18.880 in the
00:24:19.560 center
00:24:19.840 of your
00:24:20.340 cult
00:24:20.800 of
00:24:21.120 cult
00:24:21.380 of
00:24:21.620 the
00:24:22.540 people
00:24:23.200 or
00:24:23.880 cult
00:24:24.400 of
00:24:24.620 the
00:24:25.000 separated
00:24:27.040 state
00:24:27.640 or
00:24:29.200 given
00:24:32.000 by
00:24:32.220 personal
00:24:32.660 guru
00:24:33.260 for example
00:24:34.260 and
00:24:34.600 so on
00:24:35.660 in
00:24:36.000 different
00:24:36.820 cultures
00:24:37.220 it's
00:24:39.160 in
00:24:40.640 different
00:24:40.920 cultures
00:24:41.300 performed
00:24:42.120 by
00:24:42.760 different
00:24:44.020 structures
00:24:47.080 and
00:24:47.700 in
00:24:49.060 many
00:24:49.640 forms
00:24:50.100 but
00:24:50.940 the main
00:24:51.460 core
00:24:51.680 is
00:24:51.920 follow
00:24:52.220 your
00:24:52.460 harm
00:24:52.740 and
00:24:53.100 perform
00:24:55.860 the
00:24:57.080 fidelis
00:24:58.020 the
00:24:58.940 semper
00:24:59.260 fidelis
00:24:59.800 to
00:25:00.860 deities
00:25:01.300 yeah to
00:25:02.720 me I
00:25:03.080 think
00:25:03.360 it's the
00:25:04.100 most
00:25:04.420 authentic
00:25:05.240 thing
00:25:06.020 there is
00:25:06.420 you know
00:25:06.620 people always
00:25:07.020 talk about
00:25:07.520 oh I
00:25:08.240 want to
00:25:08.480 live an
00:25:08.800 authentic
00:25:09.140 life
00:25:09.740 and all
00:25:10.040 this
00:25:10.260 and your
00:25:10.940 soul
00:25:11.280 all these
00:25:12.220 fake
00:25:12.860 versions
00:25:13.360 and stuff
00:25:14.040 but
00:25:14.400 the
00:25:15.120 pagan
00:25:15.780 traditionalism
00:25:16.620 is rooted
00:25:17.080 in something
00:25:17.620 much older
00:25:18.200 and our
00:25:18.580 ancestral
00:25:19.060 ways
00:25:19.840 and
00:25:20.180 in touch
00:25:21.340 with the
00:25:21.740 seasons
00:25:22.520 and events
00:25:23.800 that have
00:25:24.060 happened
00:25:24.340 in the
00:25:24.580 past
00:25:25.100 and
00:25:25.440 mythologies
00:25:26.360 that have
00:25:26.660 arosen
00:25:27.100 probably
00:25:27.860 over
00:25:28.320 thousands
00:25:28.820 of years
00:25:29.300 to form
00:25:29.780 some of
00:25:30.080 these
00:25:30.280 archetypal
00:25:30.900 things
00:25:31.180 so it's
00:25:31.760 in our
00:25:32.240 DNA
00:25:32.620 it's in
00:25:33.300 our
00:25:33.600 entire
00:25:35.140 makeup
00:25:35.720 you know
00:25:36.180 all those
00:25:36.640 that have
00:25:36.840 gone before
00:25:37.380 us
00:25:37.640 are in
00:25:38.140 us
00:25:38.300 you say
00:25:38.960 pagan
00:25:39.320 traditionalism
00:25:40.020 is potentially
00:25:40.660 fertile soil
00:25:41.560 for all
00:25:42.100 those pagan
00:25:42.620 traditions
00:25:43.100 and all
00:25:43.620 the different
00:25:44.000 corners
00:25:44.320 of the
00:25:44.600 world
00:25:44.920 which are
00:25:45.580 struggling
00:25:46.000 for their
00:25:46.560 identity
00:25:47.820 purity
00:25:48.880 and their
00:25:49.380 very
00:25:49.700 existence
00:25:50.260 and being
00:25:50.960 so it's
00:25:51.660 seeking
00:25:52.260 the most
00:25:52.720 authentic
00:25:53.180 life
00:25:53.860 right
00:25:54.240 and trying
00:25:55.020 to be
00:25:55.320 the best
00:25:55.760 that you
00:25:56.060 can be
00:25:56.460 I was
00:25:56.700 thinking
00:25:56.920 about that
00:25:57.420 some of
00:25:57.920 the big
00:25:58.300 points
00:25:58.780 for me
00:25:59.340 you know
00:26:00.480 hero
00:26:01.000 becoming the
00:26:01.720 hero
00:26:01.960 the hero's
00:26:02.640 journey
00:26:02.980 and being
00:26:03.440 brave
00:26:04.100 fighting for
00:26:05.320 your soil
00:26:06.000 and land
00:26:06.900 they support
00:26:07.980 hierarchy
00:26:08.660 and natural
00:26:09.540 law
00:26:10.060 nature is
00:26:11.280 divine
00:26:11.780 right
00:26:12.260 you're
00:26:12.640 not separate
00:26:14.460 from it
00:26:14.940 like you're
00:26:15.500 a part of it
00:26:16.140 and it is
00:26:16.540 all divine
00:26:17.040 you're
00:26:18.280 concerned
00:26:18.940 about folk
00:26:19.560 and tribe
00:26:20.200 and family
00:26:21.160 first
00:26:21.660 and striving
00:26:22.200 to be
00:26:22.620 kind of like
00:26:23.200 Nietzsche
00:26:23.640 talked about
00:26:24.120 right
00:26:24.300 the superhuman
00:26:25.420 isn't that
00:26:26.040 kind of like
00:26:26.480 the path
00:26:26.980 of the
00:26:27.220 viking
00:26:27.600 now I know
00:26:28.300 I was just
00:26:28.660 reading
00:26:28.900 Kalergi's
00:26:29.720 book
00:26:30.060 right
00:26:30.400 Kudnhoff
00:26:30.820 Kalergi
00:26:31.260 and he was
00:26:32.180 complaining
00:26:32.700 about pagans
00:26:34.320 because of
00:26:35.020 their drive
00:26:36.160 to be the
00:26:36.620 superhuman
00:26:37.240 and this
00:26:37.600 bravery
00:26:38.020 and how
00:26:38.440 they don't
00:26:39.180 comply
00:26:39.680 and how
00:26:41.080 he actually
00:26:41.600 favored
00:26:42.040 christianity
00:26:42.860 because it
00:26:43.340 was more
00:26:43.960 conducive
00:26:45.120 to
00:26:45.300 internationalism
00:26:46.700 and race
00:26:47.400 mixing
00:26:47.820 and well
00:26:49.060 basically
00:26:49.440 control
00:26:50.000 you know
00:26:50.760 so to me
00:26:51.420 pagan also
00:26:52.340 represents
00:26:53.040 the unruly
00:26:54.560 rebellion
00:26:55.120 against this
00:26:56.080 current world
00:26:57.220 order that
00:26:57.800 has just
00:26:58.100 completely
00:26:58.840 gone nuts
00:26:59.640 you know
00:27:00.640 any points
00:27:01.920 you want to
00:27:02.180 add to that
00:27:02.640 any some
00:27:03.240 of the
00:27:03.620 the big
00:27:04.320 I want to
00:27:04.640 ask but
00:27:05.980 pagandom
00:27:07.300 it's
00:27:08.140 directly
00:27:09.760 and straight
00:27:11.940 against any
00:27:12.840 kind of
00:27:13.260 globalism
00:27:13.840 because
00:27:15.100 for any
00:27:16.980 pagan
00:27:18.340 culture
00:27:18.880 any pagan
00:27:19.440 tradition
00:27:19.960 on banks
00:27:23.300 of the river
00:27:23.800 Amazon
00:27:24.260 or banks
00:27:25.840 of the river
00:27:26.600 Yenisei
00:27:28.140 in the middle
00:27:29.020 of Eurasian
00:27:30.000 continent
00:27:30.500 not only
00:27:33.600 blood
00:27:33.920 but soil
00:27:34.620 landscape
00:27:35.460 around you
00:27:37.160 it's also
00:27:38.280 affects
00:27:41.220 a part
00:27:42.100 of your
00:27:42.420 metaphysics
00:27:43.080 the landscape
00:27:44.700 around you
00:27:45.540 it's
00:27:45.920 represented
00:27:46.640 as one
00:27:47.980 of
00:27:48.220 way
00:27:49.000 which
00:27:49.720 divine
00:27:51.280 represents
00:27:52.040 itself
00:27:52.500 so
00:27:52.940 it's
00:27:54.980 strongly
00:27:56.180 against
00:27:57.060 universalism
00:27:59.960 of
00:28:00.360 global
00:28:01.960 megacities
00:28:02.680 of
00:28:03.640 virtual reality
00:28:05.360 urbanism
00:28:07.120 and
00:28:08.280 Christianity
00:28:10.700 too
00:28:11.940 because
00:28:12.340 Christianity
00:28:12.980 is the
00:28:13.400 first
00:28:13.800 release
00:28:16.020 of
00:28:16.320 globalism
00:28:17.120 it's the
00:28:17.400 first
00:28:17.720 really
00:28:19.200 global
00:28:19.740 culture
00:28:21.700 paradigm
00:28:23.460 of thinking
00:28:24.100 and so on
00:28:25.540 and the
00:28:26.280 modern
00:28:26.640 globalism
00:28:27.460 and this
00:28:28.180 global
00:28:28.560 elite
00:28:28.940 we talked
00:28:29.620 earlier
00:28:30.000 about
00:28:30.380 they also
00:28:32.360 sons
00:28:33.800 they also
00:28:34.800 sons and
00:28:37.500 daughters
00:28:37.860 of
00:28:38.360 Christendom
00:28:39.740 Christendom
00:28:40.720 is the
00:28:41.020 father of
00:28:41.480 modern
00:28:41.760 globalism
00:28:42.260 so
00:28:42.520 paganism
00:28:43.460 stands
00:28:43.960 against
00:28:44.420 both
00:28:45.020 of them
00:28:45.500 because
00:28:46.120 there is
00:28:46.600 a small
00:28:47.400 difference
00:28:48.020 between
00:28:50.040 them
00:28:50.360 and
00:28:50.720 that's
00:28:53.180 what I
00:28:53.980 want
00:28:54.240 to add
00:28:55.340 and
00:28:55.700 in
00:28:56.280 polymers
00:28:56.740 I
00:28:57.020 also
00:28:57.360 discuss
00:28:57.820 and
00:28:58.120 describe
00:28:58.600 how
00:28:58.960 it
00:28:59.680 will
00:29:01.440 be
00:29:01.600 done
00:29:01.880 that's
00:29:03.820 right
00:29:03.940 your
00:29:04.100 people
00:29:04.540 and
00:29:05.320 your
00:29:05.480 land
00:29:05.860 those
00:29:06.380 are
00:29:06.500 the
00:29:06.620 most
00:29:06.800 important
00:29:07.220 things
00:29:07.560 to a
00:29:07.820 pagan
00:29:08.000 right
00:29:08.340 and
00:29:08.580 it's
00:29:09.100 that's
00:29:09.580 the
00:29:09.660 people
00:29:10.000 and
00:29:12.280 people
00:29:14.020 and
00:29:14.260 landscape
00:29:14.560 it's
00:29:15.140 all
00:29:15.440 it's
00:29:17.480 a
00:29:17.720 manifest
00:29:18.040 of
00:29:18.300 deity
00:29:18.880 exactly
00:29:19.640 so
00:29:19.940 it is
00:29:20.620 it is
00:29:21.940 the
00:29:22.320 opposition
00:29:23.220 to
00:29:23.620 globalism
00:29:24.320 right
00:29:24.740 and that's
00:29:25.200 why
00:29:25.380 they hate
00:29:26.320 it
00:29:26.440 it's
00:29:26.540 healthy
00:29:27.400 regionalism
00:29:29.240 it's
00:29:29.440 healthy
00:29:29.800 localism
00:29:30.460 yeah
00:29:30.700 exactly
00:29:31.160 thinking
00:29:31.620 locally
00:29:32.000 we're not
00:29:32.320 talking about
00:29:32.760 colonialism
00:29:33.240 and all this
00:29:33.840 stuff
00:29:34.020 I mean
00:29:34.280 yeah
00:29:34.640 there's been
00:29:34.940 past
00:29:35.360 histories
00:29:35.860 of that
00:29:36.280 and stuff
00:29:36.640 but like
00:29:37.140 today
00:29:37.620 it's a
00:29:37.900 different
00:29:38.180 ball game
00:29:39.040 but yeah
00:29:40.400 thinking
00:29:40.760 locally
00:29:41.220 thinking
00:29:41.620 about your
00:29:42.120 people
00:29:42.520 thinking
00:29:42.960 about your
00:29:43.480 tribe
00:29:43.960 and I
00:29:44.620 feel
00:29:44.820 that these
00:29:45.220 things
00:29:45.440 are very
00:29:46.020 important
00:29:46.440 with where
00:29:46.880 the world
00:29:47.360 is moving
00:29:47.860 and going
00:29:48.300 into
00:29:48.600 you know
00:29:48.940 crazy
00:29:49.340 land
00:29:49.820 and all
00:29:50.200 this
00:29:50.400 control
00:29:51.460 system
00:29:51.980 and eventually
00:29:52.820 eating
00:29:53.180 the bugs
00:29:53.800 and transhumanism
00:29:55.000 and virtual
00:29:55.640 reality
00:29:56.180 you get into
00:29:56.740 all of this
00:29:57.240 in your book
00:29:57.740 so the solution
00:29:58.760 to that
00:29:59.300 is to have
00:29:59.880 your you know
00:30:00.440 your small
00:30:01.140 villages
00:30:01.600 your local
00:30:02.200 tribes
00:30:02.840 your land
00:30:04.140 like helping
00:30:04.700 each other
00:30:05.080 almost going
00:30:05.860 back into
00:30:06.780 that time
00:30:07.280 but we can
00:30:07.900 have it
00:30:08.300 with an
00:30:08.700 updated
00:30:09.780 version
00:30:10.560 you know
00:30:10.900 what I mean
00:30:11.180 people think
00:30:11.680 that you have
00:30:12.120 to live
00:30:13.080 a Luddite
00:30:14.200 jumping around
00:30:16.720 in a costume
00:30:17.400 or something
00:30:17.740 that's what
00:30:18.260 they think
00:30:18.700 pagans are
00:30:19.440 like every
00:30:19.840 night
00:30:20.100 around the
00:30:21.100 fire
00:30:21.440 and stuff
00:30:21.800 like that
00:30:22.100 but what
00:30:22.680 do you think
00:30:23.140 about needing
00:30:23.720 an updated
00:30:24.900 version of
00:30:25.840 paganism
00:30:26.520 to fit
00:30:27.240 the current
00:30:28.180 era
00:30:28.460 because we're
00:30:29.000 dealing with
00:30:29.720 a lot of
00:30:30.600 different problems
00:30:31.540 right now
00:30:31.900 right
00:30:32.060 we're dealing
00:30:32.380 with modernity
00:30:33.200 western liberalism
00:30:34.800 multiculturalism
00:30:36.080 immigration
00:30:36.840 LGBTQ
00:30:38.440 the transsexuals
00:30:41.000 all this
00:30:41.580 so how do you
00:30:42.700 think we should
00:30:43.800 view the
00:30:44.180 geopolitical
00:30:45.260 conflict from
00:30:46.120 a pagan
00:30:46.920 perspective
00:30:47.620 in our
00:30:48.080 modern era
00:30:49.120 of course
00:30:51.480 we cannot
00:30:52.820 behave ourselves
00:30:53.540 like nothing
00:30:55.280 happened
00:30:56.160 the last
00:30:57.000 couple
00:30:58.220 last
00:30:59.180 2000 years
00:31:00.460 many things
00:31:04.660 radically
00:31:05.720 change
00:31:06.140 and
00:31:06.480 more of
00:31:07.700 the
00:31:07.940 really
00:31:09.320 passed away
00:31:10.840 and
00:31:11.180 die forever
00:31:12.400 so the
00:31:13.840 modern pagans
00:31:14.400 who won't
00:31:14.800 live
00:31:15.140 like in
00:31:16.420 past
00:31:16.820 and
00:31:17.260 wear
00:31:19.020 some
00:31:19.460 funny
00:31:21.160 dress
00:31:21.600 and
00:31:22.480 saying
00:31:23.400 nothing
00:31:24.120 changed
00:31:25.280 we are
00:31:27.160 the same
00:31:27.680 pagans
00:31:28.120 as
00:31:29.000 our
00:31:30.780 ancient
00:31:31.440 ancestors
00:31:31.940 it's a
00:31:33.060 fake
00:31:33.340 it's a
00:31:33.680 lie
00:31:33.960 and
00:31:34.760 if we
00:31:35.320 ask them
00:31:36.100 something
00:31:36.700 about
00:31:37.320 typical
00:31:40.120 and
00:31:40.400 easy
00:31:41.320 question
00:31:41.700 about
00:31:42.020 what
00:31:42.460 for example
00:31:43.420 stars
00:31:44.900 on the
00:31:45.360 night
00:31:45.600 skies
00:31:47.420 what is
00:31:48.160 this
00:31:49.380 they
00:31:49.880 answer
00:31:50.320 oh
00:31:50.580 it's
00:31:50.860 plasmoid
00:31:53.860 it's
00:31:54.760 sky
00:31:56.100 bodies
00:31:57.300 in
00:31:57.900 the
00:31:58.700 far
00:31:59.040 outer
00:32:00.040 space
00:32:00.540 and so
00:32:00.840 on
00:32:00.980 so
00:32:01.240 paganism
00:32:03.560 broke
00:32:03.880 it's not
00:32:04.800 a paganism
00:32:05.240 it's a
00:32:05.820 scientific
00:32:06.180 world
00:32:07.560 view
00:32:07.900 so
00:32:08.360 for pagan
00:32:09.260 stars
00:32:10.360 in the
00:32:12.120 night sky
00:32:12.560 for example
00:32:13.440 eyes of the
00:32:14.600 ancestors
00:32:15.080 or holes
00:32:16.140 in the
00:32:17.100 uh
00:32:17.580 audience
00:32:18.080 kit
00:32:18.440 uh
00:32:19.440 many
00:32:19.740 metaphors
00:32:20.300 poet
00:32:20.660 metaphors
00:32:21.220 uh
00:32:21.940 and we
00:32:22.760 face a
00:32:23.260 problem
00:32:23.600 about
00:32:24.800 uh
00:32:25.380 this
00:32:25.900 paganism
00:32:26.720 so
00:32:27.020 paganism
00:32:27.680 should be
00:32:28.320 updated
00:32:28.800 but
00:32:29.140 updated
00:32:29.680 uh
00:32:30.940 doesn't
00:32:31.900 mean
00:32:32.120 modernization
00:32:32.900 no
00:32:33.340 uh
00:32:33.940 complying
00:32:35.740 with
00:32:36.100 modernity
00:32:37.060 with
00:32:37.340 modern
00:32:38.180 paradigm
00:32:38.800 of
00:32:39.140 thinking
00:32:40.040 education
00:32:40.960 and
00:32:41.360 epistemic
00:32:42.240 science
00:32:43.600 and philosophy
00:32:44.220 no
00:32:45.480 it must
00:32:46.600 be
00:32:47.020 updated
00:32:47.500 in europe
00:32:48.060 in russia
00:32:48.560 in asia
00:32:49.140 in
00:32:49.460 both
00:32:50.880 parts of
00:32:52.560 america
00:32:53.120 everywhere
00:32:54.280 updated
00:32:55.380 to the
00:32:57.400 understanding
00:32:58.400 and deeply
00:32:59.740 completely
00:33:00.700 understanding
00:33:01.320 and complex
00:33:02.560 understanding
00:33:03.020 about
00:33:03.400 uh
00:33:04.400 what
00:33:05.720 modernity
00:33:06.920 is
00:33:07.180 and post
00:33:07.640 modernity
00:33:08.140 is
00:33:08.300 and how
00:33:08.780 it
00:33:09.060 stands
00:33:09.560 against
00:33:10.060 any
00:33:10.440 kind
00:33:10.840 of
00:33:11.020 sacrality
00:33:11.600 and
00:33:13.000 ergo
00:33:13.740 any
00:33:14.320 kind
00:33:14.640 of
00:33:15.020 pagantum
00:33:15.960 of
00:33:16.160 paganism
00:33:16.600 and
00:33:16.840 pagandum
00:33:17.240 in general
00:33:17.700 uh
00:33:19.480 it is a
00:33:20.560 problem
00:33:20.860 of
00:33:21.900 education
00:33:22.640 and
00:33:23.220 explanation
00:33:23.860 for
00:33:24.160 pagans
00:33:24.760 uh
00:33:25.640 for
00:33:27.440 for any
00:33:28.320 kind
00:33:28.620 i think
00:33:29.180 of
00:33:29.320 pagans
00:33:29.760 uh
00:33:30.640 the
00:33:31.780 this
00:33:32.480 intellectual
00:33:33.420 and
00:33:33.960 paradigmatic
00:33:34.680 situation
00:33:35.300 about
00:33:36.660 in
00:33:37.080 in
00:33:37.940 what
00:33:40.020 world
00:33:40.760 we live
00:33:41.220 now
00:33:41.580 and how
00:33:42.240 we can
00:33:42.680 uh
00:33:43.600 reach
00:33:44.000 establish
00:33:45.100 again
00:33:45.920 uh
00:33:46.860 our
00:33:47.220 connection
00:33:47.580 to
00:33:47.940 deities
00:33:48.680 to
00:33:48.920 divine
00:33:49.280 nature
00:33:49.760 inside
00:33:50.640 in
00:33:50.920 outer
00:33:51.360 world
00:33:51.640 inside
00:33:52.200 inside
00:33:52.780 uh
00:33:54.320 ourselves
00:33:55.640 uh
00:33:56.580 in
00:33:56.820 our
00:33:57.140 heart
00:33:57.500 and
00:33:58.960 post-modernity
00:34:01.660 virtuality
00:34:02.960 uh
00:34:03.960 freaks
00:34:04.520 perversions
00:34:05.780 uh
00:34:06.860 uh
00:34:07.460 you know
00:34:08.000 it's also
00:34:09.240 a huge
00:34:10.180 part
00:34:10.580 of
00:34:11.260 problem
00:34:12.380 i describe
00:34:13.180 in many
00:34:13.520 pages
00:34:13.900 roots
00:34:15.260 of them
00:34:15.800 and how
00:34:16.260 they
00:34:16.620 intersect
00:34:17.860 with
00:34:18.260 uh
00:34:18.760 some
00:34:19.700 spirituality
00:34:20.580 and became
00:34:21.480 a part
00:34:21.840 of modern
00:34:22.260 traditionalism
00:34:23.260 why pagans
00:34:24.060 uh
00:34:24.820 uh
00:34:25.260 turned
00:34:26.720 to the
00:34:27.620 uh
00:34:28.800 for example
00:34:29.520 lgbtq
00:34:31.580 and
00:34:32.200 uh
00:34:33.420 any
00:34:33.740 many letters
00:34:34.640 after
00:34:35.020 uh
00:34:36.200 movements
00:34:37.760 and
00:34:38.320 uh
00:34:39.020 defend
00:34:39.480 this position
00:34:40.120 and why
00:34:41.020 it's
00:34:41.300 fake
00:34:41.820 paganism
00:34:42.540 and
00:34:43.480 not only
00:34:45.640 sexual
00:34:46.880 perversions
00:34:47.460 political
00:34:48.180 uh
00:34:49.380 ideology
00:34:50.260 ideological
00:34:51.960 uh
00:34:53.420 scientifical
00:34:54.000 and
00:34:54.480 in this
00:34:56.780 way
00:34:57.040 i i i'm
00:34:58.040 sure
00:34:58.400 uh
00:34:59.040 pagan
00:34:59.720 traditionalism
00:35:00.560 and
00:35:01.140 we may
00:35:02.180 say
00:35:02.660 traditional
00:35:03.400 traditionalism
00:35:04.340 at all
00:35:04.820 uh
00:35:05.820 may
00:35:06.560 may be
00:35:07.420 a common
00:35:08.000 ground
00:35:08.460 uh
00:35:09.600 it's a
00:35:11.400 language
00:35:11.760 to describe
00:35:12.580 the modern
00:35:12.980 world
00:35:13.460 uh
00:35:14.880 from the
00:35:15.620 point of
00:35:16.040 view
00:35:16.280 of
00:35:16.540 sacrality
00:35:17.120 and
00:35:18.000 define
00:35:18.800 the
00:35:19.240 modern
00:35:19.600 and
00:35:19.780 postmodern
00:35:20.160 world
00:35:20.540 as
00:35:20.900 anti
00:35:22.700 and
00:35:23.320 counter
00:35:24.140 sacrality
00:35:24.760 forces
00:35:25.760 and
00:35:27.680 following
00:35:28.640 our
00:35:29.500 heroical
00:35:30.140 karma
00:35:30.660 we must
00:35:31.620 fight them
00:35:32.200 in
00:35:32.840 many
00:35:34.460 uh
00:35:35.940 aspects
00:35:36.260 in
00:35:36.620 every
00:35:37.680 battlefield
00:35:38.160 fighting
00:35:39.240 uh
00:35:40.180 thinking
00:35:40.720 art
00:35:41.400 science
00:35:43.440 poetry
00:35:45.100 yeah
00:35:46.460 it's like
00:35:46.900 you said
00:35:47.320 it's a
00:35:48.020 their war
00:35:49.660 is against
00:35:50.360 us in our
00:35:50.940 in our minds
00:35:51.760 right
00:35:52.120 in our state
00:35:52.760 of being
00:35:53.340 and to me
00:35:53.900 the modern
00:35:54.440 day pagan
00:35:55.060 it's a way
00:35:55.700 of thinking
00:35:56.420 and and
00:35:57.360 being
00:35:57.900 right
00:35:58.280 that represents
00:35:58.900 something old
00:35:59.760 and grounded
00:36:00.400 and timeless
00:36:01.180 that is a
00:36:02.340 closest to
00:36:03.220 how our
00:36:03.680 ancestors
00:36:04.260 the builders
00:36:05.100 of civilization
00:36:06.020 how our
00:36:06.940 ancestors
00:36:07.400 viewed the
00:36:08.280 world
00:36:08.640 and envisioned
00:36:09.380 the world
00:36:09.980 and um
00:36:11.360 just
00:36:12.020 standing
00:36:12.660 i think
00:36:13.100 today
00:36:13.680 being a
00:36:14.520 pagan
00:36:14.740 and thinking
00:36:15.500 that all
00:36:15.980 the conflicts
00:36:16.700 today
00:36:17.140 and global
00:36:17.820 homo
00:36:18.280 and all
00:36:18.540 that
00:36:18.760 just challenging
00:36:19.800 it and being
00:36:20.640 the resistance
00:36:21.160 and saying
00:36:21.800 no
00:36:22.160 and laughing
00:36:23.160 at it
00:36:23.560 and just
00:36:24.020 honoring
00:36:24.440 your uh
00:36:25.420 your folk
00:36:26.000 and your
00:36:26.260 family
00:36:26.700 and your
00:36:27.300 land
00:36:27.720 and basically
00:36:28.560 being like
00:36:29.460 how we are
00:36:30.220 today
00:36:30.640 is is
00:36:31.560 is how
00:36:32.160 you
00:36:32.500 being the
00:36:33.200 resistance
00:36:33.820 is what i
00:36:34.920 think
00:36:35.200 what do you
00:36:36.160 think
00:36:36.420 to be
00:36:37.040 back
00:36:37.260 to date
00:36:37.700 is
00:36:38.180 to resist
00:36:40.220 the whole
00:36:41.020 reality
00:36:41.580 for me
00:36:42.880 for example
00:36:43.420 is a
00:36:44.200 absolutely
00:36:45.160 clear
00:36:46.300 knowledge
00:36:46.860 and
00:36:47.520 statement
00:36:48.380 take a look
00:36:53.180 in any
00:36:53.880 part
00:36:54.620 of
00:36:55.140 social life
00:36:56.300 and you
00:36:57.580 find
00:36:58.820 both at the
00:36:59.820 same time
00:37:00.360 the relics
00:37:01.200 of
00:37:01.640 ancient
00:37:02.800 forms of
00:37:04.640 thinking
00:37:05.020 or
00:37:05.620 outer
00:37:07.120 forms
00:37:07.580 with
00:37:11.100 already
00:37:11.920 that
00:37:12.780 sense
00:37:13.280 but
00:37:13.560 forms
00:37:14.320 still
00:37:14.680 exist
00:37:15.520 and
00:37:16.240 you
00:37:16.860 find
00:37:17.200 modern
00:37:19.460 and postmodern
00:37:20.140 infiltration
00:37:20.960 and you
00:37:21.420 must
00:37:21.740 separate
00:37:22.280 them
00:37:22.540 preganism
00:37:23.040 is a
00:37:23.820 art
00:37:24.520 of
00:37:25.040 differentiation
00:37:25.620 for example
00:37:27.060 and separating
00:37:28.820 the modern
00:37:30.080 from
00:37:30.960 traditional
00:37:31.960 or
00:37:32.300 traditional
00:37:32.740 istic
00:37:33.240 and
00:37:34.280 preserve
00:37:36.060 and
00:37:36.700 growing up
00:37:38.180 you had
00:37:39.080 on page
00:37:39.520 155
00:37:40.400 it was
00:37:40.700 a chapter
00:37:41.260 paganism
00:37:41.980 modernity
00:37:42.620 and postmodernity
00:37:43.700 I wanted to
00:37:44.160 just read
00:37:44.660 a paragraph
00:37:45.240 because it's
00:37:45.540 very good
00:37:45.900 by taking
00:37:46.780 the side
00:37:47.320 of the
00:37:47.600 eternal
00:37:48.020 beyond time
00:37:48.800 the side
00:37:49.180 of the
00:37:49.420 divine
00:37:49.780 element
00:37:50.220 and by
00:37:50.640 affirming
00:37:51.100 the heroic
00:37:51.740 type
00:37:52.260 in the
00:37:52.580 era
00:37:52.840 of
00:37:53.040 modernity
00:37:53.580 no
00:37:54.200 choice
00:37:54.620 remains
00:37:55.040 but to
00:37:55.360 declare
00:37:55.740 and wage
00:37:56.320 war
00:37:56.700 in difficult
00:37:57.260 and confusing
00:37:57.920 circumstances
00:37:58.720 in which
00:37:59.160 the enemy
00:37:59.600 is strong
00:38:00.220 cunning
00:38:01.020 ignoble
00:38:02.040 and at
00:38:02.520 first glance
00:38:03.160 everywhere
00:38:03.760 and nowhere
00:38:04.560 but we
00:38:05.060 shall
00:38:05.260 remember
00:38:05.640 that the
00:38:06.040 gods
00:38:06.280 always
00:38:06.680 defeat
00:38:07.100 the
00:38:07.400 titans
00:38:07.860 and the
00:38:08.180 heroes
00:38:08.520 gain glory
00:38:09.240 and find
00:38:09.680 immortality
00:38:10.380 thus it is
00:38:11.240 necessary to
00:38:11.980 boldly oppose
00:38:12.960 law modernity
00:38:14.140 with high antiquity
00:38:15.240 and to
00:38:15.580 fulfill
00:38:16.000 the do
00:38:16.900 now you
00:38:17.680 were talking
00:38:18.100 about the
00:38:18.640 do
00:38:19.020 quite a bit
00:38:19.680 in the
00:38:20.480 book
00:38:20.700 now maybe
00:38:21.200 I know
00:38:21.540 some things
00:38:21.880 are lost
00:38:22.220 in translation
00:38:22.720 when I
00:38:23.140 read
00:38:23.380 but it
00:38:23.780 sounds
00:38:23.960 beautiful
00:38:24.280 fulfill
00:38:25.880 the do
00:38:26.520 and you
00:38:26.860 mentioned
00:38:27.120 the do
00:38:27.520 quite a
00:38:27.940 bit
00:38:28.100 d-u-e
00:38:28.840 now tell
00:38:29.400 us what
00:38:29.820 that
00:38:30.180 tell us
00:38:30.740 what that
00:38:31.000 is
00:38:32.220 do you
00:38:35.280 as I
00:38:36.320 think I
00:38:37.320 answered
00:38:37.680 before
00:38:38.880 it's a
00:38:39.660 it's a
00:38:42.720 destiny
00:38:43.080 prepared
00:38:43.680 and given
00:38:44.340 you
00:38:44.820 by
00:38:45.180 deity
00:38:46.800 and according
00:38:47.560 to your
00:38:48.160 structure
00:38:49.040 of your
00:38:49.460 soul
00:38:49.800 of your
00:38:50.620 relating to
00:38:51.980 the one
00:38:52.640 of the
00:38:52.880 classical
00:38:53.240 in the
00:38:53.500 European
00:38:53.820 states
00:38:54.380 for example
00:38:55.000 described
00:38:55.540 by
00:38:56.000 French
00:38:57.440 structuralist
00:38:59.160 thinker
00:38:59.680 Dumizim
00:39:00.660 so if
00:39:01.940 you are
00:39:02.560 peasant
00:39:03.840 your
00:39:04.780 karma
00:39:05.660 your
00:39:06.000 destiny
00:39:06.660 your due
00:39:07.940 is to be
00:39:08.540 peasant
00:39:08.860 to farm
00:39:09.600 the land
00:39:10.020 and if
00:39:10.780 you are
00:39:11.020 warrior
00:39:11.340 you must
00:39:13.160 fight
00:39:14.300 you must
00:39:14.880 be
00:39:15.580 inside
00:39:16.400 in the
00:39:16.740 heart
00:39:16.980 of battle
00:39:17.600 to
00:39:18.740 lead
00:39:19.180 your
00:39:19.400 people
00:39:19.880 became
00:39:21.060 a king
00:39:21.640 to
00:39:23.020 find
00:39:23.660 your
00:39:24.240 immortal
00:39:25.640 glory
00:39:26.280 of
00:39:27.160 the
00:39:28.340 highest
00:39:28.660 one
00:39:29.000 the
00:39:29.180 Havamal
00:39:29.680 verses
00:39:31.100 and if
00:39:32.360 you are
00:39:32.940 so-called
00:39:34.520 brahman
00:39:35.840 or
00:39:36.460 priest
00:39:37.220 philosopher
00:39:37.720 your
00:39:39.160 due
00:39:39.560 is to
00:39:40.120 serve
00:39:41.880 to
00:39:42.940 the
00:39:43.060 deities
00:39:43.520 to
00:39:44.000 provide
00:39:44.480 the
00:39:44.980 deities
00:39:46.380 energies
00:39:47.180 to
00:39:47.480 provide
00:39:48.100 sacrifice
00:39:48.600 down
00:39:49.600 to
00:39:49.880 the
00:39:50.320 your
00:39:53.120 people
00:39:53.760 to
00:39:54.720 the
00:39:55.160 structure
00:39:55.940 of
00:39:56.220 society
00:39:56.740 to the
00:39:57.220 warriors
00:39:57.540 to the
00:39:57.860 peasants
00:39:58.260 all of
00:39:58.900 that
00:39:59.040 and
00:39:59.920 asking
00:40:00.700 about
00:40:01.220 about
00:40:02.560 being
00:40:03.040 about
00:40:03.620 origin
00:40:06.160 source
00:40:07.660 of
00:40:08.100 everything
00:40:09.000 to
00:40:10.360 connect
00:40:11.780 and
00:40:12.200 open
00:40:12.640 divine
00:40:13.380 nature
00:40:13.900 inside
00:40:14.580 yourself
00:40:14.980 it's
00:40:15.740 your
00:40:16.000 due
00:40:16.280 and
00:40:18.340 every
00:40:18.900 of
00:40:19.240 them
00:40:19.640 peasant
00:40:20.380 warrior
00:40:20.820 and
00:40:22.660 priest
00:40:23.700 philosopher
00:40:24.300 can
00:40:28.480 and
00:40:28.740 must
00:40:29.140 fight
00:40:30.020 against
00:40:30.480 modernity
00:40:31.200 and
00:40:31.320 post-modernity
00:40:32.000 according
00:40:32.800 to
00:40:33.120 their
00:40:33.520 state
00:40:35.860 metaphysics
00:40:37.020 and
00:40:37.540 way of
00:40:39.260 life
00:40:39.560 farm
00:40:42.920 your
00:40:43.200 land
00:40:43.560 and
00:40:44.140 pay
00:40:44.960 no
00:40:45.340 taxes
00:40:46.480 or
00:40:46.940 don't
00:40:47.620 buy
00:40:47.920 food
00:40:48.520 for
00:40:48.960 example
00:40:49.300 true
00:40:50.200 revolt
00:40:50.560 against
00:40:50.880 the
00:40:51.040 modern
00:40:51.220 world
00:40:51.500 today
00:40:51.800 is
00:40:52.000 growing
00:40:53.200 up
00:40:53.400 your
00:40:53.580 own
00:40:53.960 food
00:40:54.300 and
00:40:54.860 never
00:40:57.260 visit
00:40:57.720 Walmart
00:40:59.020 or
00:40:59.380 something
00:40:59.820 like
00:41:00.320 that
00:41:00.520 yeah
00:41:02.780 yeah
00:41:03.120 so
00:41:03.400 you're
00:41:03.720 referring
00:41:04.020 to
00:41:04.220 I
00:41:04.360 just
00:41:04.520 want
00:41:04.640 to
00:41:04.700 let
00:41:04.820 people
00:41:05.100 know
00:41:05.340 you're
00:41:05.540 referring
00:41:05.800 to
00:41:06.000 the
00:41:06.200 Greek
00:41:06.680 the
00:41:06.920 Germano
00:41:07.380 Scandinavian
00:41:08.060 the
00:41:08.320 Slavic
00:41:08.740 Russian
00:41:09.120 pagan
00:41:09.500 traditions
00:41:10.020 and
00:41:10.760 it's
00:41:10.960 called
00:41:11.140 you
00:41:11.340 refer
00:41:11.600 to
00:41:11.760 as
00:41:11.860 the
00:41:11.980 Indo-European
00:41:12.820 estate
00:41:13.320 social
00:41:13.900 structures
00:41:14.540 right
00:41:14.920 which
00:41:15.340 embodying
00:41:15.900 the
00:41:16.080 spirit
00:41:16.640 of the
00:41:16.940 European
00:41:17.240 traditions
00:41:17.720 and you
00:41:18.380 get into
00:41:18.820 these
00:41:19.060 different
00:41:19.360 kind of
00:41:19.740 estate
00:41:20.320 systems
00:41:21.620 and how
00:41:22.220 it has
00:41:22.540 their own
00:41:22.940 inherent
00:41:23.620 set of
00:41:24.100 initiations
00:41:24.880 I think
00:41:25.380 Plato also
00:41:26.180 touched upon
00:41:26.720 this
00:41:26.900 was it
00:41:27.180 Plato
00:41:27.760 who talked
00:41:28.640 about this
00:41:29.120 the different
00:41:30.580 ages that
00:41:31.280 correspond with
00:41:31.960 the estates
00:41:32.720 and the
00:41:33.440 metals
00:41:33.780 was it
00:41:34.120 Plato
00:41:34.380 or who
00:41:34.700 first
00:41:35.040 talked
00:41:35.560 about
00:41:35.720 these
00:41:35.980 this idea
00:41:38.000 I think
00:41:40.880 it's a
00:41:41.260 major
00:41:41.620 idea
00:41:42.160 and one
00:41:44.360 of the
00:41:44.600 most
00:41:44.780 important
00:41:45.400 in
00:41:46.840 pagan
00:41:47.200 traditionalism
00:41:47.940 and
00:41:48.180 Indo-European
00:41:48.960 paganism
00:41:49.720 at all
00:41:50.080 but
00:41:50.760 there is
00:41:52.040 a
00:41:52.380 special
00:41:53.900 problem
00:41:54.420 because
00:41:55.240 Jimizil
00:41:55.920 described
00:41:56.500 idealistic
00:41:57.940 types
00:41:59.640 in real
00:42:00.940 life
00:42:01.320 for example
00:42:02.080 in
00:42:02.400 India
00:42:03.900 and
00:42:04.240 Hinduism
00:42:04.780 we can
00:42:05.880 find
00:42:06.260 time
00:42:10.140 by time
00:42:10.620 but
00:42:10.920 pure
00:42:12.640 examples
00:42:15.100 of
00:42:15.540 separate
00:42:17.480 estates
00:42:18.000 in
00:42:20.600 Wagner
00:42:20.900 Schram
00:42:21.180 for example
00:42:22.120 but
00:42:23.040 in
00:42:23.420 German
00:42:23.840 society
00:42:24.360 in
00:42:24.540 ancient
00:42:24.820 German
00:42:25.080 society
00:42:25.500 there is
00:42:26.280 no
00:42:26.460 such
00:42:26.920 differentiation
00:42:29.420 people
00:42:31.340 may
00:42:31.740 time
00:42:32.440 by
00:42:32.640 time
00:42:33.000 change
00:42:33.460 their
00:42:34.080 activities
00:42:35.380 way
00:42:36.660 of
00:42:36.800 life
00:42:37.160 and
00:42:37.600 became
00:42:39.020 never
00:42:40.140 became
00:42:40.520 peasants
00:42:40.940 for example
00:42:41.500 we know
00:42:43.100 about
00:42:43.580 German
00:42:46.020 warriors
00:42:47.500 and
00:42:47.980 warlords
00:42:49.840 and
00:42:50.780 about
00:42:51.980 German
00:42:52.780 poets
00:42:53.400 and
00:42:53.920 priests
00:42:54.500 and
00:42:54.700 sacrality
00:42:55.180 but
00:42:56.060 really
00:42:57.060 close to
00:42:58.480 nothing
00:42:58.740 we know
00:42:59.180 about
00:42:59.480 their
00:42:59.700 peasantry
00:43:00.980 in the
00:43:02.600 ancient
00:43:02.880 times
00:43:03.300 not
00:43:03.960 middle
00:43:04.840 ages
00:43:05.120 for example
00:43:05.740 after
00:43:06.540 christianization
00:43:07.520 and
00:43:08.820 this
00:43:10.080 idealistic
00:43:11.880 describing
00:43:14.460 anyway
00:43:17.100 is very
00:43:18.120 important
00:43:18.660 because
00:43:19.660 they
00:43:21.260 I think
00:43:21.940 and I'm
00:43:22.740 sure
00:43:23.000 these
00:43:24.640 three
00:43:24.960 types
00:43:25.860 of
00:43:27.340 people
00:43:27.720 of
00:43:28.240 human
00:43:32.720 soul
00:43:33.520 exist
00:43:36.720 and
00:43:37.060 present
00:43:37.420 in
00:43:37.980 every
00:43:38.360 society
00:43:39.000 in
00:43:39.180 every
00:43:39.380 people
00:43:39.740 but
00:43:40.420 they
00:43:40.820 may
00:43:41.500 represent
00:43:41.960 in
00:43:42.260 different
00:43:42.860 ways
00:43:43.360 in
00:43:43.620 difficult
00:43:44.820 complex
00:43:45.640 ways
00:43:47.240 and
00:43:47.540 it's
00:43:47.940 a question
00:43:48.500 to find
00:43:49.040 them
00:43:49.360 the
00:43:50.040 regular
00:43:50.360 men
00:43:50.780 who
00:43:51.260 are
00:43:52.780 watching
00:43:53.140 for
00:43:53.340 for
00:43:57.340 example
00:43:57.960 for
00:43:58.260 horses
00:43:58.940 and
00:43:59.220 cows
00:43:59.580 in
00:44:00.460 the
00:44:00.620 steps
00:44:00.960 of
00:44:01.380 Eurase
00:44:01.880 at
00:44:03.520 night
00:44:03.880 may
00:44:04.620 become
00:44:05.160 a
00:44:05.840 shaman
00:44:06.880 and
00:44:07.800 perform
00:44:08.320 shamanic
00:44:08.940 rites
00:44:09.300 and
00:44:10.160 who
00:44:11.480 is
00:44:11.740 here
00:44:12.800 a priest
00:44:13.380 or
00:44:14.380 he's
00:44:14.900 a peasant
00:44:15.940 no
00:44:16.540 but
00:44:17.520 time
00:44:19.640 by
00:44:19.880 time
00:44:20.320 by
00:44:21.300 calendar
00:44:22.900 for
00:44:23.140 the
00:44:23.280 for
00:44:23.880 example
00:44:24.200 sacrifice
00:44:25.020 calendar
00:44:25.460 or
00:44:26.560 by
00:44:26.940 needs
00:44:27.420 he
00:44:28.540 may
00:44:29.220 leave
00:44:30.100 his
00:44:30.960 regular
00:44:32.440 activity
00:44:33.060 dress
00:44:34.080 shaman
00:44:35.600 costume
00:44:36.180 take
00:44:38.560 a
00:44:38.700 tambourine
00:44:39.300 into
00:44:40.360 the
00:44:40.520 left
00:44:40.740 hand
00:44:41.060 and
00:44:41.520 became
00:44:42.100 a
00:44:42.260 shaman
00:44:42.540 and
00:44:42.960 perform
00:44:43.560 or
00:44:44.800 travel
00:44:46.280 to
00:44:47.280 the
00:44:47.620 highest
00:44:48.700 skies
00:44:49.220 and
00:44:49.780 talking
00:44:51.440 with
00:44:51.780 ghosts
00:44:52.240 spirits
00:44:52.980 of
00:44:53.340 ancestral
00:44:53.920 and
00:44:55.660 it
00:44:57.340 is also
00:44:57.800 an
00:44:58.180 Indo-European
00:44:59.200 structure
00:44:59.680 and
00:45:00.280 in
00:45:01.320 non-Indo-European
00:45:02.440 societies
00:45:03.140 we sometimes
00:45:03.740 can
00:45:04.120 find
00:45:05.200 this
00:45:06.180 differentiation
00:45:07.360 I
00:45:09.380 think
00:45:09.540 it's
00:45:10.380 very important
00:45:11.380 because
00:45:11.720 it's
00:45:12.300 already
00:45:12.660 lost
00:45:13.120 in
00:45:13.440 modern
00:45:13.720 society
00:45:14.200 everything
00:45:15.000 mixed
00:45:15.400 we
00:45:16.080 cannot
00:45:16.400 be
00:45:17.080 sure
00:45:17.420 about
00:45:18.540 our
00:45:19.140 army
00:45:23.360 may
00:45:23.720 be
00:45:24.000 full
00:45:25.140 not
00:45:26.220 by
00:45:26.440 warriors
00:45:26.860 but
00:45:27.160 by
00:45:27.540 peasants
00:45:27.960 or
00:45:28.320 our
00:45:28.940 politicians
00:45:33.320 have
00:45:35.040 silver
00:45:36.040 or
00:45:36.380 gold
00:45:37.300 soul
00:45:37.680 by
00:45:37.920 platinum
00:45:38.340 maybe
00:45:39.020 they
00:45:39.620 have
00:45:39.820 soul
00:45:40.080 made
00:45:40.440 not
00:45:41.420 by
00:45:41.640 metal
00:45:41.980 at
00:45:42.200 all
00:45:42.480 yeah
00:45:42.800 so
00:45:43.040 it's
00:45:43.260 a
00:45:43.360 really
00:45:43.500 interesting
00:45:43.920 idea
00:45:44.380 though
00:45:44.580 the
00:45:44.780 three
00:45:45.260 estates
00:45:45.800 within
00:45:46.080 society
00:45:46.560 right
00:45:46.860 and
00:45:47.000 this
00:45:47.180 whole
00:45:47.320 idea
00:45:47.500 of
00:45:47.640 priests
00:45:47.940 kings
00:45:48.260 and
00:45:48.460 warriors
00:45:48.820 you're
00:45:49.060 right
00:45:49.240 though
00:45:49.420 now
00:45:49.660 it's
00:45:50.140 I'd
00:45:50.360 say
00:45:50.440 a
00:45:50.560 whole
00:45:50.800 lot
00:45:50.960 of
00:45:51.060 peasants
00:45:51.500 right
00:45:51.820 and
00:45:52.400 then
00:45:52.520 there
00:45:52.640 was
00:45:52.800 also
00:45:53.160 what
00:45:53.400 was it
00:45:53.700 in the
00:45:53.940 third
00:45:54.180 estate
00:45:54.580 consisted
00:45:55.220 of
00:45:55.560 farmers
00:45:56.400 artisans
00:45:57.320 and
00:45:57.660 merchants
00:45:58.060 well
00:45:58.260 we
00:45:58.380 definitely
00:45:58.560 have
00:45:58.720 merchants
00:45:59.040 today
00:45:59.360 don't
00:45:59.620 we
00:45:59.740 lots
00:45:59.980 of
00:46:00.100 merchants
00:46:00.480 it
00:46:02.340 is
00:46:02.460 also
00:46:02.660 interesting
00:46:03.280 but we
00:46:04.220 have
00:46:04.480 also
00:46:05.140 sub
00:46:07.220 estate
00:46:07.840 types
00:46:08.520 of
00:46:08.840 people
00:46:09.260 according
00:46:10.340 to
00:46:10.900 Julius
00:46:11.420 Evel
00:46:11.720 for
00:46:11.900 example
00:46:12.240 the
00:46:13.460 population
00:46:16.200 of
00:46:16.620 cities
00:46:17.760 of
00:46:18.580 middle
00:46:19.560 age
00:46:19.900 bourgeoisie
00:46:21.040 and
00:46:21.740 Soviet
00:46:24.220 or
00:46:25.020 not only
00:46:25.740 soviet
00:46:26.020 proletarians
00:46:26.780 and
00:46:27.060 now
00:46:27.240 we
00:46:27.400 have
00:46:27.560 precarious
00:46:28.380 it
00:46:29.460 is
00:46:29.600 super
00:46:30.200 super
00:46:31.560 state
00:46:32.000 types
00:46:33.100 of
00:46:33.400 people
00:46:36.240 of
00:46:36.820 human
00:46:37.660 being
00:46:38.080 for
00:46:38.360 example
00:46:38.640 and
00:46:39.200 the
00:46:39.360 French
00:46:39.780 thinker
00:46:40.740 Alain
00:46:42.140 Sorrel
00:46:42.540 in his
00:46:43.940 very good
00:46:44.960 book
00:46:45.300 to
00:46:46.020 understand
00:46:46.420 the
00:46:46.620 empire
00:46:47.040 if I
00:46:47.900 correct
00:46:48.960 if I
00:46:49.900 remember
00:46:50.180 correct
00:46:50.580 he
00:46:51.920 discussed
00:46:52.600 about
00:46:52.960 the
00:46:53.960 spirituality
00:46:55.620 and
00:46:56.420 metaphysical
00:46:57.000 role
00:46:57.360 of
00:46:57.780 third
00:46:58.360 estate
00:46:59.620 of
00:46:59.860 peasantry
00:47:00.460 and
00:47:01.320 he
00:47:01.720 advocated
00:47:02.380 peasantry
00:47:03.040 as
00:47:03.260 the
00:47:04.120 last
00:47:04.520 estate
00:47:06.040 who
00:47:06.440 saving
00:47:07.200 traditional
00:47:08.080 and
00:47:08.460 conservative
00:47:09.300 spirit
00:47:09.960 warriors
00:47:12.380 and
00:47:13.320 priests
00:47:13.820 passed
00:47:16.520 away
00:47:16.880 or
00:47:17.240 degenerate
00:47:18.560 to the
00:47:19.860 terminal
00:47:20.380 state
00:47:21.520 but
00:47:23.060 peasantry
00:47:23.760 still
00:47:26.180 saving
00:47:28.380 and
00:47:29.180 preserving
00:47:29.740 this
00:47:30.280 conservative
00:47:31.220 type
00:47:31.780 of
00:47:32.160 thinking
00:47:32.600 of way
00:47:33.160 of life
00:47:33.660 and so
00:47:34.900 on
00:47:35.060 this is
00:47:35.320 also
00:47:35.580 very
00:47:36.120 interesting
00:47:36.740 thought
00:47:37.780 and
00:47:39.700 they
00:47:41.400 I think
00:47:42.040 may be
00:47:42.620 interesting
00:47:42.940 to develop
00:47:43.860 in the
00:47:45.200 future
00:47:45.480 absolutely
00:47:46.760 yeah
00:47:47.420 another thing
00:47:48.420 I wanted
00:47:48.680 to talk
00:47:49.160 about
00:47:49.560 briefly
00:47:50.040 is
00:47:50.400 this
00:47:50.720 idea
00:47:51.180 and
00:47:51.560 we
00:47:51.680 kind
00:47:51.860 of
00:47:51.960 touched
00:47:52.180 upon
00:47:52.480 it
00:47:52.640 earlier
00:47:52.980 but
00:47:53.240 that
00:47:53.600 pagans
00:47:54.700 didn't
00:47:55.160 have
00:47:55.420 any
00:47:55.700 morality
00:47:56.460 or
00:47:56.740 this
00:47:57.000 code
00:47:57.560 of
00:47:57.720 ethics
00:47:58.120 right
00:47:58.500 but
00:47:59.200 you know
00:47:59.460 we have
00:47:59.740 the
00:47:59.860 nine
00:48:00.060 noble
00:48:00.280 virtues
00:48:00.620 before
00:48:01.120 the
00:48:01.320 ten
00:48:01.540 commandments
00:48:01.880 and
00:48:02.180 I
00:48:02.320 always
00:48:02.520 say
00:48:02.740 you're
00:48:03.160 talking
00:48:03.340 about
00:48:03.560 your
00:48:03.680 ancestors
00:48:04.300 here
00:48:04.600 you
00:48:04.720 have
00:48:04.900 to
00:48:05.000 show
00:48:05.160 some
00:48:05.360 respect
00:48:05.780 do
00:48:06.020 you
00:48:06.100 think
00:48:06.260 all
00:48:06.440 your
00:48:06.620 ancestors
00:48:07.160 were
00:48:07.520 just
00:48:07.840 well
00:48:08.120 now
00:48:08.300 heathen
00:48:08.680 has
00:48:08.820 become
00:48:09.060 like
00:48:09.220 a
00:48:09.320 dirty
00:48:09.500 word
00:48:09.780 right
00:48:09.960 we
00:48:10.100 call
00:48:10.300 it
00:48:10.420 someone
00:48:10.580 oh
00:48:10.980 you
00:48:11.180 heathen
00:48:11.700 when
00:48:11.900 you
00:48:12.020 just
00:48:12.240 behave
00:48:12.640 uncivilized
00:48:13.460 and horribly
00:48:14.020 but
00:48:14.820 that is
00:48:15.340 not
00:48:15.460 the
00:48:15.600 case
00:48:16.000 we're
00:48:17.140 talking
00:48:17.340 about
00:48:17.520 our
00:48:17.640 ancestors
00:48:18.120 we have
00:48:18.600 to
00:48:18.760 look
00:48:19.000 at
00:48:19.120 this
00:48:19.280 not
00:48:19.520 in
00:48:19.700 like
00:48:19.880 some
00:48:20.060 cartoon
00:48:20.580 version
00:48:21.020 that's
00:48:21.300 been
00:48:21.420 presented
00:48:21.780 to
00:48:22.000 us
00:48:22.180 about
00:48:22.420 what
00:48:22.880 our
00:48:23.000 ancestors
00:48:23.460 used
00:48:23.800 to
00:48:23.900 be
00:48:24.080 like
00:48:24.400 and
00:48:25.160 then
00:48:25.380 you
00:48:25.700 have
00:48:25.860 some
00:48:26.060 shows
00:48:26.360 I
00:48:26.500 enjoyed
00:48:26.780 the
00:48:26.920 vikings
00:48:27.280 show
00:48:27.540 but
00:48:27.700 they
00:48:27.840 do
00:48:28.060 show
00:48:28.340 a
00:48:28.480 lot
00:48:38.820 eating
00:48:39.520 mushrooms
00:48:40.060 and
00:48:40.260 having
00:48:40.520 orgies
00:48:41.200 and
00:48:41.400 like
00:48:41.600 worshipping
00:48:42.040 Satan
00:48:42.400 of course
00:48:43.460 that's
00:48:43.620 not
00:48:43.780 the
00:48:43.920 case
00:48:44.100 at
00:48:44.220 all
00:48:44.380 so
00:48:44.680 what
00:48:44.960 can
00:48:45.100 you
00:48:45.220 say
00:48:45.420 about
00:48:45.780 pagan
00:48:46.660 morality
00:48:47.500 and
00:48:48.340 virtues
00:48:48.700 I
00:48:51.420 want
00:48:51.700 to
00:48:52.040 notice
00:48:53.000 a
00:48:53.400 very
00:48:53.600 important
00:48:53.920 thing
00:48:54.220 there
00:48:55.180 is
00:48:55.340 no
00:48:55.680 really
00:48:57.420 really
00:48:58.040 no
00:48:58.520 universal
00:49:00.500 things
00:49:00.980 everything
00:49:02.120 we can
00:49:02.920 say
00:49:03.740 oh
00:49:04.040 it's
00:49:04.600 some
00:49:04.880 it's
00:49:05.440 universal
00:49:06.060 objective
00:49:06.680 reality
00:49:07.200 is
00:49:07.440 universal
00:49:07.960 truth
00:49:08.740 it is
00:49:09.340 a
00:49:09.640 false
00:49:10.260 statement
00:49:10.840 every
00:49:11.320 time
00:49:11.640 every
00:49:12.620 universal
00:49:13.420 testament
00:49:16.320 every
00:49:16.880 universal
00:49:18.140 thing
00:49:18.520 it's
00:49:18.960 a
00:49:19.320 local
00:49:20.720 it's
00:49:21.820 every
00:49:22.120 time
00:49:22.440 a
00:49:22.680 local
00:49:22.960 thing
00:49:23.320 but
00:49:24.400 growing up
00:49:26.120 and
00:49:26.480 established
00:49:27.820 it as
00:49:28.220 universal
00:49:28.860 by force
00:49:29.620 lie
00:49:30.420 or
00:49:31.460 in
00:49:32.360 any
00:49:32.680 other
00:49:34.720 way
00:49:35.000 so
00:49:35.680 pagan
00:49:36.920 traditionalism
00:49:37.800 did
00:49:39.060 did not
00:49:39.440 establish
00:49:41.320 any
00:49:43.480 kind of
00:49:44.160 reversal
00:49:45.920 morality
00:49:46.600 and ethics
00:49:47.180 every
00:49:47.740 time
00:49:48.120 we
00:49:49.040 should
00:49:49.840 asking
00:49:51.320 tradition
00:49:52.740 or people
00:49:53.620 we want
00:49:54.120 to know
00:49:54.620 about
00:49:55.040 them
00:49:55.780 something
00:49:56.480 or
00:49:57.200 we want
00:49:57.940 to visit
00:49:58.360 for example
00:49:58.900 them
00:49:59.200 we want
00:49:59.920 to visit
00:50:00.180 some
00:50:00.540 tribe
00:50:01.160 in
00:50:01.900 jungle
00:50:02.320 or some
00:50:03.180 pagan
00:50:04.720 community
00:50:05.320 in
00:50:05.820 northern
00:50:06.240 europe
00:50:06.600 or
00:50:07.020 in
00:50:07.420 siberia
00:50:08.160 we
00:50:09.680 must
00:50:10.140 ask
00:50:10.540 them
00:50:10.920 talking
00:50:12.020 with
00:50:12.240 them
00:50:12.420 about
00:50:12.620 guys
00:50:14.260 what
00:50:14.580 about
00:50:14.940 some
00:50:15.380 taboos
00:50:16.320 or
00:50:16.700 how we
00:50:17.580 must
00:50:17.840 look
00:50:18.220 how we
00:50:19.100 must
00:50:19.300 behave
00:50:19.620 or
00:50:19.840 what
00:50:21.040 things
00:50:21.280 we
00:50:21.560 should
00:50:22.280 not
00:50:22.940 do
00:50:23.340 in
00:50:24.180 your
00:50:25.960 society
00:50:27.040 and
00:50:27.540 in
00:50:28.540 different
00:50:29.260 traditions
00:50:29.600 we can
00:50:29.920 find
00:50:30.200 very
00:50:31.820 close
00:50:32.620 and
00:50:32.840 for
00:50:33.400 example
00:50:33.620 close
00:50:34.020 and
00:50:34.220 or
00:50:34.580 common
00:50:35.080 rules
00:50:36.100 common
00:50:36.480 morality
00:50:37.080 close
00:50:39.440 to us
00:50:39.920 or
00:50:40.100 very
00:50:40.600 far
00:50:40.880 from
00:50:41.140 us
00:50:41.460 or
00:50:42.140 really
00:50:42.820 different
00:50:43.900 kinds
00:50:44.380 of
00:50:45.420 moral
00:50:48.640 codex
00:50:49.200 maybe
00:50:50.500 looking
00:50:51.440 barbarian
00:50:52.400 for us
00:50:52.840 but
00:50:53.040 it's
00:50:53.460 also
00:50:53.760 civilizing
00:50:54.640 barbarians
00:50:55.280 modern
00:50:56.540 progressive
00:50:57.320 terms
00:50:59.800 and
00:51:00.200 totally
00:51:01.300 disqualified
00:51:01.820 to
00:51:03.120 describe
00:51:03.500 pagan
00:51:04.220 traditions
00:51:04.700 so
00:51:06.200 pagan
00:51:07.160 traditionalism
00:51:07.780 is about
00:51:08.300 plurality
00:51:09.420 of
00:51:10.300 sacred
00:51:12.420 manifestations
00:51:14.220 and
00:51:14.780 ethics
00:51:16.020 and morality
00:51:16.600 in
00:51:17.060 different
00:51:18.060 societies
00:51:18.680 they are
00:51:20.980 sovereign
00:51:22.680 for
00:51:23.600 their
00:51:24.100 people
00:51:24.540 and
00:51:25.380 I think
00:51:25.940 we must
00:51:26.400 respect
00:51:27.620 them
00:51:28.060 and
00:51:28.420 if
00:51:28.720 it's
00:51:29.500 unappreciated
00:51:30.040 to us
00:51:30.460 so
00:51:30.780 don't
00:51:31.660 talk
00:51:32.680 with
00:51:32.880 them
00:51:33.060 don't
00:51:33.380 visit
00:51:33.700 and
00:51:34.860 be free
00:51:36.300 to
00:51:36.600 do not
00:51:37.260 communicate
00:51:38.440 if you
00:51:39.540 don't
00:51:39.860 want
00:51:40.120 or
00:51:40.900 it's
00:51:41.480 against
00:51:42.080 your
00:51:42.500 ethics
00:51:43.680 and
00:51:43.880 morality
00:51:44.140 universal
00:51:44.980 ethics
00:51:45.300 it's
00:51:45.700 for example
00:51:48.000 christian
00:51:49.240 ethics
00:51:49.660 it is
00:51:51.100 it is a
00:51:51.240 local
00:51:51.600 story
00:51:52.460 but
00:51:53.680 this
00:51:53.900 local
00:51:54.360 local
00:51:56.100 assemblation
00:51:56.760 local
00:51:57.300 range
00:51:57.740 of
00:51:57.980 rules
00:51:58.740 was
00:51:59.860 forced
00:52:00.880 forcet
00:52:01.600 globally
00:52:03.660 and
00:52:04.080 always
00:52:04.880 destroy
00:52:05.500 the
00:52:06.240 locals
00:52:06.760 local
00:52:08.380 customs
00:52:09.260 local
00:52:09.900 taboos
00:52:12.240 and so
00:52:12.780 it is
00:52:13.520 gears
00:52:16.000 of
00:52:17.060 cultural
00:52:18.420 genocide
00:52:19.440 for me
00:52:19.860 so
00:52:20.940 plurality
00:52:22.060 it is a hard
00:52:22.780 thing
00:52:23.160 it is not a
00:52:24.040 multicoralism
00:52:25.000 or
00:52:25.460 total
00:52:28.000 relativism
00:52:28.880 no
00:52:29.120 we're talking about
00:52:30.000 real
00:52:30.780 traditional
00:52:32.120 plurality
00:52:34.120 which
00:52:37.040 is
00:52:37.680 manifest
00:52:38.480 of
00:52:40.580 deity
00:52:41.300 so
00:52:42.240 it is
00:52:42.520 not
00:52:42.700 imaginative
00:52:45.320 construction
00:52:45.980 or
00:52:46.880 synthetic
00:52:48.100 artificial
00:52:48.960 structures
00:52:51.340 or
00:52:52.460 list
00:52:53.180 of what
00:52:53.900 we should
00:52:54.240 or shouldn't
00:52:54.900 do
00:52:55.200 and how
00:52:55.980 we behave
00:52:56.420 no
00:52:56.700 yeah
00:52:57.220 I think
00:52:57.460 that's
00:52:57.700 what's
00:52:58.280 what's
00:52:58.440 hard
00:52:58.620 for
00:52:58.780 people
00:52:59.000 they want
00:52:59.500 it simple
00:52:59.960 they want
00:53:00.360 it in
00:53:00.620 a bible
00:53:01.040 they want
00:53:01.440 a rule
00:53:01.780 book
00:53:02.020 like here's
00:53:02.480 the things
00:53:02.860 you can
00:53:03.260 and can't
00:53:03.740 do
00:53:04.060 right
00:53:04.420 whereas
00:53:04.980 with us
00:53:05.400 it's like
00:53:05.760 it's kind
00:53:06.200 of written
00:53:06.580 within
00:53:07.140 like the
00:53:07.860 code of
00:53:08.340 honor
00:53:08.720 is within
00:53:09.440 like you
00:53:09.920 learn that
00:53:10.500 through time
00:53:11.040 I know
00:53:11.680 that Cornelius
00:53:12.580 Tacitus
00:53:13.100 right
00:53:13.540 the greatest
00:53:14.480 Roman historian
00:53:15.420 had all
00:53:16.340 these great
00:53:16.860 things to say
00:53:17.580 about German
00:53:18.420 barbarians
00:53:19.240 and their
00:53:19.540 code of
00:53:19.940 ethics
00:53:20.280 and their
00:53:20.760 morality
00:53:21.560 and how
00:53:22.240 their views
00:53:23.040 on adultery
00:53:23.900 and lying
00:53:25.620 and you know
00:53:26.540 so they had
00:53:27.200 a code of
00:53:27.740 ethics
00:53:28.080 within
00:53:28.760 and they lived
00:53:29.800 up to it
00:53:30.300 and if you
00:53:30.920 were a bad
00:53:31.340 person you
00:53:31.780 would get
00:53:32.060 iced out of
00:53:32.600 that village
00:53:33.060 or that
00:53:33.400 tribe
00:53:34.060 like you
00:53:34.360 so you
00:53:34.620 had to
00:53:34.920 behave
00:53:35.220 especially
00:53:35.600 in these
00:53:36.000 cold places
00:53:36.580 where you
00:53:36.980 all had to
00:53:37.540 pull together
00:53:38.420 you're in
00:53:38.780 Siberia
00:53:39.220 you know
00:53:39.640 if there's
00:53:40.320 one guy
00:53:40.780 that's acting
00:53:41.260 like an idiot
00:53:41.800 or stealing
00:53:42.400 from people
00:53:42.980 or treating
00:53:43.380 people badly
00:53:44.020 they're not
00:53:44.380 going to like
00:53:44.800 him he's
00:53:45.120 probably going
00:53:45.460 to get thrown
00:53:45.880 out of the
00:53:46.260 village
00:53:46.560 right
00:53:46.860 Vikings
00:53:48.020 kings also
00:53:48.420 they despised
00:53:51.000 people who
00:53:51.460 who didn't
00:53:51.680 honor their
00:53:52.120 words
00:53:52.400 if someone
00:53:52.780 had a
00:53:53.220 dispute
00:53:53.620 to settle
00:53:54.120 they can
00:53:54.520 challenge
00:53:55.060 that person
00:53:55.860 in a duel
00:53:56.520 it was called
00:53:56.880 a home
00:53:57.360 gang
00:53:57.740 like I've
00:53:58.180 learned all
00:53:58.580 these different
00:53:59.100 things that
00:53:59.800 you know
00:54:00.460 Norse culture
00:54:01.120 had
00:54:01.680 that proves
00:54:02.920 time and
00:54:03.380 time and
00:54:03.640 again
00:54:03.880 that you
00:54:04.340 know
00:54:04.560 there was a
00:54:05.340 code of
00:54:05.660 ethics
00:54:05.920 it could also
00:54:06.680 be a matter
00:54:07.180 of honor
00:54:07.740 like if you
00:54:08.420 insulted
00:54:09.140 someone
00:54:09.600 exactly
00:54:10.000 if you
00:54:10.280 call them
00:54:10.680 the equivalent
00:54:11.220 of a
00:54:11.980 fag
00:54:12.460 or gay
00:54:13.340 back then
00:54:14.540 was like
00:54:14.940 the greatest
00:54:15.440 insult
00:54:16.040 like that guy
00:54:16.920 can challenge
00:54:17.560 you to
00:54:18.080 death
00:54:18.460 you know
00:54:19.140 so I
00:54:19.420 think it's
00:54:19.900 interesting
00:54:20.360 that there's
00:54:20.740 so many
00:54:21.160 of these
00:54:21.640 aspects
00:54:22.420 but just
00:54:22.800 because it
00:54:23.200 wasn't
00:54:23.460 written down
00:54:23.980 in a nice
00:54:24.540 little rule
00:54:25.000 book
00:54:25.260 people think
00:54:25.860 that it
00:54:26.320 didn't
00:54:26.880 it couldn't
00:54:27.600 have
00:54:27.860 existed
00:54:28.380 yes
00:54:29.300 just in
00:54:30.380 Europe
00:54:30.740 we have
00:54:32.740 a really
00:54:34.040 closest or
00:54:35.060 common
00:54:35.500 set of
00:54:36.840 rules
00:54:38.660 or ethical
00:54:39.680 statements
00:54:40.760 so
00:54:41.440 if you
00:54:42.860 are talking
00:54:44.580 just about
00:54:45.300 Europe
00:54:45.600 it is
00:54:46.000 really
00:54:46.540 the question
00:54:47.100 became
00:54:47.540 easily
00:54:48.200 or
00:54:49.040 if we
00:54:49.520 look
00:54:49.900 in
00:54:50.040 white
00:54:50.420 it's
00:54:51.460 a
00:54:51.800 more
00:54:52.600 complicated
00:54:53.280 question
00:54:55.200 and
00:54:55.520 just
00:54:56.240 for me
00:54:57.100 it's
00:54:57.340 interesting
00:54:58.120 to
00:54:58.480 thinking
00:54:58.860 about
00:54:59.400 more
00:54:59.740 complicated
00:55:00.320 but
00:55:01.280 I
00:55:01.840 can
00:55:05.160 agree
00:55:05.480 with you
00:55:06.120 about
00:55:06.520 people
00:55:07.600 really
00:55:07.880 want
00:55:08.220 to
00:55:08.600 some
00:55:09.460 easy
00:55:10.240 to
00:55:12.400 go
00:55:13.040 to
00:55:13.200 by
00:55:13.580 easy
00:55:13.800 way
00:55:14.080 and
00:55:14.880 in
00:55:15.320 Europe
00:55:15.600 we
00:55:15.880 can
00:55:16.140 fight
00:55:17.080 find
00:55:18.140 find
00:55:18.160 this
00:55:20.180 virtues
00:55:21.140 this
00:55:21.700 morality
00:55:23.100 and
00:55:24.800 from
00:55:26.420 people
00:55:26.960 to
00:55:27.140 people
00:55:27.380 will be
00:55:28.000 very
00:55:28.240 close
00:55:28.640 don't
00:55:31.300 kill
00:55:31.540 don't
00:55:31.900 thief
00:55:32.680 but
00:55:33.840 but
00:55:33.860 in
00:55:34.260 for
00:55:35.660 example
00:55:36.020 some
00:55:37.420 cultures
00:55:38.740 stole
00:55:40.820 something
00:55:41.340 from
00:55:41.940 different
00:55:42.760 tribes
00:55:43.240 it's
00:55:43.900 a
00:55:44.340 future
00:55:44.580 you
00:55:45.020 are
00:55:45.300 very
00:55:45.680 good
00:55:45.900 man
00:55:46.140 if
00:55:46.340 you
00:55:46.560 can
00:55:47.140 stole
00:55:47.580 something
00:55:48.000 and
00:55:48.500 they
00:55:48.920 didn't
00:55:49.220 catch
00:55:49.500 you
00:55:49.920 yeah
00:55:51.860 if
00:55:52.220 you
00:55:52.300 can
00:55:52.440 go
00:55:52.600 and
00:55:52.760 loot
00:55:53.000 them
00:55:53.280 well
00:55:53.720 a lot
00:55:53.960 of
00:55:54.000 times
00:55:54.180 the
00:55:54.300 Vikings
00:55:54.580 were
00:55:54.760 looting
00:55:55.040 because
00:55:55.300 it was
00:55:55.520 revenge
00:55:56.060 for
00:55:56.280 the
00:55:56.440 crusades
00:55:57.020 too
00:55:57.320 right
00:55:57.600 and
00:55:57.800 then
00:55:58.060 they
00:55:58.700 were
00:55:58.820 such
00:55:59.000 good
00:55:59.200 fighters
00:55:59.580 and
00:55:59.960 the
00:56:00.160 Christians
00:56:00.520 are
00:56:00.680 like
00:56:00.860 hey
00:56:00.980 come
00:56:01.200 fight
00:56:01.420 for
00:56:01.580 us
00:56:01.900 right
00:56:02.220 oh
00:56:03.660 man
00:56:05.900 well
00:56:06.040 there's
00:56:06.220 so much
00:56:06.600 more
00:56:06.820 I
00:56:06.920 want
00:56:07.020 to
00:56:07.100 get
00:56:07.220 into
00:56:07.460 so
00:56:07.600 I
00:56:07.720 think
00:56:07.840 that
00:56:07.980 we
00:56:08.080 should
00:56:08.240 take
00:56:08.440 a
00:56:08.540 little
00:56:08.660 break
00:56:09.060 and
00:56:09.340 then
00:56:09.500 continue
00:56:09.860 a
00:56:10.060 little
00:56:10.180 more
00:56:10.540 while
00:56:10.860 we
00:56:11.020 have
00:56:19.920 together
00:56:20.460 the
00:56:20.700 end
00:56:20.900 of
00:56:21.060 days
00:56:21.440 the
00:56:21.600 culmination
00:56:22.160 of
00:56:22.380 the
00:56:22.560 Kali Yuga
00:56:23.260 and
00:56:23.540 the
00:56:23.680 Ragnarok
00:56:24.280 and
00:56:24.440 this
00:56:24.600 war
00:56:25.200 against
00:56:25.560 reality
00:56:26.120 what
00:56:26.680 is
00:56:26.940 the
00:56:27.140 fate
00:56:27.440 of
00:56:27.680 Europe
00:56:28.060 and
00:56:28.340 the
00:56:28.520 destiny
00:56:29.000 of
00:56:29.420 the
00:56:29.560 world
00:56:29.840 also
00:56:30.160 I
00:56:30.320 kind
00:56:30.480 of
00:56:30.560 wanted
00:56:30.700 to
00:56:30.780 get
00:56:30.880 a
00:56:31.020 little
00:56:31.140 bit
00:56:31.300 into
00:56:31.580 the
00:56:31.840 hero
00:56:32.180 and
00:56:32.340 the
00:56:32.460 martyr
00:56:32.800 manifestation
00:56:34.040 ism
00:56:34.560 I
00:56:34.720 want
00:56:34.860 to
00:56:34.920 hear
00:56:35.040 about
00:56:35.260 paganism
00:56:35.900 in
00:56:36.100 Russia
00:56:36.480 and
00:56:37.100 much
00:56:37.340 more
00:56:37.540 so
00:56:37.700 join
00:56:37.920 us
00:56:38.080 on
00:56:38.180 the
00:56:38.260 other
00:56:38.420 side
00:56:38.680 we're
00:56:40.720 going
00:56:40.860 to
00:56:40.980 continue
00:56:41.340 part
00:56:41.640 two
00:56:41.840 with
00:56:42.000 asker
00:56:42.380 on
00:56:42.560 red
00:56:42.840 ice
00:56:43.100 members
00:56:43.460 dot
00:56:43.700 com
00:56:43.960 not
00:56:44.220 yet
00:56:44.400 a
00:56:44.500 member
00:56:44.720 subscribe
00:56:45.140 now
00:56:45.620 it's
00:56:45.800 with
00:56:45.940 your
00:56:46.260 support
00:56:46.720 that
00:56:47.220 we're
00:56:47.400 able
00:56:47.700 to
00:56:47.880 do
00:56:48.080 what
00:56:48.280 we
00:56:48.460 can
00:56:48.660 do
00:56:48.920 against
00:56:49.300 all
00:56:49.720 odds
00:56:50.240 the
00:56:50.660 phase
00:56:50.940 of
00:56:51.060 this
00:56:51.240 cycle
00:56:51.560 requires
00:56:52.160 all
00:56:52.700 types
00:56:53.000 of
00:56:53.140 talents
00:56:53.480 to be
00:56:53.800 involved
00:56:54.160 peasants
00:56:54.860 farmers
00:56:56.240 merchants
00:56:57.240 artisans
00:56:58.000 warriors
00:56:58.580 priests
00:56:59.200 and
00:56:59.600 kings
00:57:00.020 well
00:57:00.260 you
00:57:00.400 know
00:57:00.540 what
00:57:00.660 I
00:57:00.780 mean
00:57:00.980 thank
00:57:01.720 you
00:57:01.860 executive
00:57:02.300 producers
00:57:02.820 T
00:57:03.200 Lothrop
00:57:03.800 Stoddard
00:57:04.420 V
00:57:04.720 Miller
00:57:05.160 Resin
00:57:05.720 Revolt
00:57:06.120 and
00:57:06.340 good
00:57:06.540 luck
00:57:06.880 lap
00:57:07.280 see
00:57:07.580 you
00:57:07.840 on
00:57:08.040 the
00:57:08.160 other
00:57:08.300 side