Christian Nationalism vs Pagan Nationalism： There's Both Conflict & Common Ground
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Summary
In this episode, I discuss the rise of Christian nationalism in America, and how it relates to anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism. I also discuss the election of Congresswoman Kristian Loomer and her potential role as the face of Christian Nationalism in America.
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So let's talk a bit more about this discussion between so-called Christian nationalism.
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I guess let's just simplify it, keep the term paganism then, right?
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It's an important and interesting discussion to be had.
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I think we can have it without going to world war with each other over it.
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But there are a couple of things I want to lay out here first.
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And one of the reasons I want to approach this is, of course,
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we have a lot of so-called Christian nationalists out there,
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which is, I would argue, it's kind of a misnomer, the term.
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But whatever, let's take their term and use it.
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I'm not necessarily super stoked about the term.
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Even the Romans, like these are barbarians and they're uncivilized, you know, kind of thing.
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You can say also through or native European spirituality, whatever you're comfortable with.
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But so we had the grifting here of catering to the Christian group in order to be, well, one, accepted and let in.
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But also I think there's another layer to it where it's about steering it and make sure that it doesn't become something they don't want, right?
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What is it called? Stu Peters Show, I guess it's called.
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Where apparently Laura Loomer converted to Christianity.
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I didn't believe this the second that I heard it.
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Laura Loomer just accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior, literally in real time.
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Laura Loomer now is covered in the blood of Jesus Christ.
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This was the most amazing conversation I have ever had in my entire life.
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Right away, I just have to say when I heard this, I was like, grift, grift, grift.
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There is no way that Miss Israeli potential asset, you know, who's always talking about her Jewish heritage, would convert to Jesus Christ.
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Right away, I was skeptical, like, all right, what's she up to?
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Is she the new face of Christian nationalism now?
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I am going to stand up for the Judeo-Christian values that our country was founded upon.
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I will fight for your families, and I will fight for Christian nationalism.
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Jesus was an activist who brought truth and light to people.
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And just like Jesus Christ stormed the temple courts, and he flipped over those tables, and he held the people accountable for selling and buying in the home of the Lord,
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I am going to storm the United States Capitol when I am elected as your next United States Congresswoman.
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I think it's very fascinating when you can have groups such as, you know, America First and some of the adjacent people around that, right?
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That seems to be completely okay with someone like this.
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And as long as they say they're Christian or whatever, like, well, you know, they said, then they are okay with them.
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It doesn't matter what their life is actually like and how they actually live.
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We're going to have Congresswoman Loomer, if she pulls out a victory here in this race, it's huge.
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This would be the first time that, like, one of our own got into Congress.
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This would be, like, the first time that, like, one of us, one of the people, I mean to say, got in there.
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I'd encourage everybody to go and vote for her.
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Her and I disagree on the Zionist issue and on the Israel issue.
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But the way that I see it is that if she gets elected, she joins other senators and congressmen that are Zionists.
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She's just going to be one more who votes in favor of Israel.
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But she would be the only one who is going to be fully red-pilled.
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If there's someone out there that's pro-white and Christian, this is not for you and an attack on you or anything like that, we're fine with you and all that stuff.
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As we explained before, we're folk first and then everything else comes second.
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We're bringing this up because I think it's important because there is obviously people that maybe are attracted to this.
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Or maybe they're on the fence about their religious question.
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And maybe they're attracted to something that, you know, America First or Andrew Torbaugh is doing with Gab or something like that.
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So I think this is important to discuss this and say, wow, we think this is going down the wrong path.
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And we'll explain that and demonstrate that here and bring up some examples of that right now.
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But basically, as you said, it's all down to someone just saying what they are, right?
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And if you approach or if you maybe criticize something that the church does or some Christians have done, well, usually the response is, well, they're not real Christians, you know, kind of thing.
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You know, so we can have like America First or Nick Fuentes and all the people around that, you know, who's like, oh, pagans or they're gay and immoral and, you know, all that kind of stuff.
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And they're attacking pagans, you know, kind of thing.
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But they have accepted someone like Milo, for example, right?
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And let's just remember some of the things that he did way back, right?
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They have a huge problem, obviously, with someone like the spirit cooking lady, right, Marina Abramovich and stuff like that.
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Well, remember this back in 2016 when he was bathing in pig's blood as an alt-right pro-Trump art exhibit.
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Pouring blood in a bathtub and, you know, dipping in there and bathing in it.
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It's like this is – I've never seen any pagan do something like this.
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And, again, the argument, well, he was pagan then, right?
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No, he's been Catholic, I think, since the start.
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But the point is they're using, you know, the history against other people, you're right, who haven't converted to Christianity.
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I don't know any pagans who do this kind of stuff.
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And all the pagans that I associate with are highly moral people.
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So, you know, this is – I think this is disgusting.
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And there's another layer to it, too, of course, which is his gayness and his homosexuality.
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Remember this, Twinks for Trump, the whole gay scene around Trump and Lady Maga and stuff.
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And I haven't seen a denunciation when it comes to, for example, you know, America First of that history or this kind of shit,
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that it's like this very, like, gay-adjacent attitudes.
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Well, again, well, pagans are all gay, of course, you know, kind of thing.
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He worked for Gateway Pundit for a while, Twinks for Trump, a photo series.
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For those of you who don't know who he is out there, let me remind you a little bit.
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He's like an actual criminal, made himself very rich from that.
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Martin Shkreli, a former pharmaceutical executive known for raising the price of a life-saving drug, thanks NPR, by 5,000%, was released from prison and transferred Wednesday to community confinement.
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In 2017, a federal jury, this is a year after he went to Twinks for Trump with Milo and Lucian Wintridge, which now is America's first adjacent, right?
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In 2017, he was dubbed Pharma Bro in the media, guilty on two counts of securities fraud and one count of conspiracies to commit securities fraud.
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He was sentenced to seven years in prison in 2018.
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Now, apparently, he's back with some other venture out of prison.
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Shkreli plans a Web3 drug discovery platform backed by crypto.
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I'm not sure what the – you know, Lucian Wintridge, right, Twinks for Trump, all gay stuff.
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But a CEO of a leading LGBTQ rights group played a prominent role during the opioid crisis.
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I'm pushing, like, opioids and drugs and, you know – anyway, this is a side note, right?
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But the point is they're fine with that and there's no really wide condemnation of that and it's all this, well, you know, Milo has – he's repented now, so it's fine.
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And it's like how do you know what really is in his heart?
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I mean, like, he took it up the bum there for years.
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And, like, he was always going off about his gayness and celebrating it and showing pictures and kissing guys and all this.
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I mean, the Christian crowd is very generous in America, the conservative Christian right.
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And I think that I'm genuinely, like, looking out for those who are pro-whites and who are Christian who might be roped into some of these very bad ideas and bad people and bad influences.
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Just because someone says they're a Christian doesn't mean they are.
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I mean, how many times have you seen, too, of, like, the merchant right and the Christians that associate with them?
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It's come out with literally, like, coke and whores and partying and cheating on their husbands and wives.
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You know, look at the people we associate with, right?
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And, of course, you do have this issue of a lot of problems within the church.
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And I've said that before, that your enemies are not pagans.
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Your enemies are actually the institutions in some cases and the people up at the pulpit and the people around that's using the messages, like, I guess, in the Bible to skew it negatively against white people.
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So, the replacement will continue, such as this one, right?
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We've seen these before in the past, too, where they have full-on, you know, BLM rainbow flags on their churches and stuff, right?
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I know I've seen individuals who have, like, a Facebook group with, like, 15 people and they claim to be pagan, you know, and they have this attitude or they propose these kinds of things or think that this is the solution.
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But I haven't seen, like, an institutionalized pagan religion or Ausatür, for example, push these kinds of messages.
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In fact, we have many of them, you know, officially opposing it, such as the AFA, for example, right, the Ausatür Folk Assembly, right?
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But still, we do see this on, like, Catholic churches and Protestant churches.
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We see it on a wide variety of different churches, like, especially in Portland and Seattle right now.
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We've played some of this, but again, just a reminder here, right?
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Pagans are not hurting your religion and your tradition in the way that some of their own priests does, right?
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Her name is Brita Filter, and she is the Queen of New York.
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awful lot of people sharing in there that's not uh yeah you could maybe argue that the person on
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the stage right there is a pagan then or something but uh no they're not they're an lgbtq uh new
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ager who is more obsessed about homo religion exactly you know perverting the message and
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stuff right but but the point is uh it's the clergy of this new york church that let them in
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and so that's your that's your enemy right there not not pro-white people if you're pro-white
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it's impossible to be anti-pagan and pro-white and we'll talk more about that in a moment but i
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want to cover a couple of other people too in this right and we have people such as and again it's not
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to you know necessarily like shit on these people but it's to show you that they can have a very
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troubled past right a spotty past and then all of a sudden they just claim that they're one thing and
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everything is forgiven and it's fine right now i think it's kind of hypocritical you know here's
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milo with baked alaska right you know he was taking like photos with him and uh you know like
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you know what was it say said uh baked alaska said niggas think they're owning me with a five-year-old
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pic of me and milo trolling the hell out of his timeline uh laugh my ass off y'all have no sense
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of humor let bros be bros we've been good friends for a long time now also milo milo is very straight
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now and catholic very proud of how far totally straight now yeah i totally see that so that how
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that works then if they've done something bad then as long as you just say that they're you know
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christian or catholic then that you know they come around okay and here's another one by the way too
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check out this music video here i'm just saying like you know this is stuff that you could uh
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potentially you know criticize if you're christian uh someone like baked alaska for uh check out this
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i need some motivation i'm blazing my spaces send me news i'm fine i rushed out
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you jayton i'm a split deliver i'm getting impatient got 101 problems i could spot a donation turns up
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like a station hot 97 hating windows fogged up so i got some bill getting milk on my checklist
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if you want a pearl necklace yeah toast is true to breakfast
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so yeah like a like a cat boy um i have never seen this it is just oh my god i mean it's all like
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he was working for buzzfeed for a little bit and stuff like that too right i mean but it's just like
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you well my point is it's like there's a lot of kind of suspicious uh circumstances around a lot of
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these people right and and and it's like you know let's jump on the next thing right christian
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nationalism right yeah the cat boy thing of course uh what was his name again loli socks or something
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right the cat boy or cammy or what was his name again right i don't even know he hangs out with a
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lot of this and stuff right uh and so you know it's it's as i said we put this picture up last week
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too but it's like you know these people can claim they're christian right and a lot of christians
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therefore are are more okay with them than they are with a white person who is a pagan like you and
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i yes they would they would rather choose them than you and i because we're not wearing a cross
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but then my argument is then they're not really pro-white are they no i mean no can they be no i
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don't think so so that that's that's the point here right and we of course have a lot of other
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angles to this that you could take again that the problem is within the institutions the judeo-christian
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you know traditions i am going to stand up for the judeo-christian values that our country was
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founded upon that's a bigger enemy i'd say that you should attack than pagans uh right usa news
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even covered this and said obama is wrong when he says we're not a judeo-christian nation why well
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because we really are and then of course then you have all the israel support christians should
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support israel 80 of pastors agree only 14 disagreed so basically like the church in america has
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become a huge grift for israel yeah you have things like the scoffield bible right all these
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pro-israeli kind of uh you know priests and stuff like that there's other examples like this one a
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sin against the lord himself christians can't love christ and hate jews there's many more of these in
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fact too jerusalem post five reasons christians should always support israel so if you're not if
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you if you're not pro-israel if you're not a zionist right then again i could say this to be a
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bigger problem that no there's no pagans doing this to you right how does israel support christians
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by the way they don't pope francis inside every christian is a i laughed so hard when i saw this
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and of course he backs uh same-sex civil unions right that's a big one kisses the feet of migrants
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of migrants right we've shown these a couple of times it's just a reminder it's not to shit on
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your religion if you're christian i'm just saying these are bigger bigger enemies than any
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any pagan or osatru group is or something like that right uh you should stop putting uh time
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into fighting them and and starting putting it towards fighting your own uh establishment inside
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of the churches to turn it in the right direction a positive direction a direction that ultimately is
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uh pro-white that would be great wouldn't that be great and we've seen that uh lately as well and
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i brought up torba before so let's talk just a little bit about him uh and again i think he's doing
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you know he's doing a lot of good things with gab right and things like this i've been very
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supportive of him in the past uh but then lately i've seen his turn basically into just a big
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pagan bashing and again i think that's wrong i think his time and effort should be better spent on
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uh fighting back against the clergy which is perverting uh his church and the other christian
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institutions and stuff like that so he posted this on his telegram the other day the conflict has
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always been and will be until the end christianity or paganism the idols or the living god abraham
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kiper kiper uh a quote from that man right so so that's kind of shows what he the um the axe that
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he has to grind right so he linked this article up the other day too uh unbelief is destructive that's
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why pagan nationalism is so dangerous from august 4 by something called the uh lancaster patriot now
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i believe this is torba behind it i could be wrong on that but as you can see up here that's
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it's on gab news right and they mean unbelief by unbelief in christianity is destructive right i mean
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they're acting like the pre-christian uh traditions don't have any sorts of beliefs or code of ethics
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or morals or as we'll get into later they haven't had any impact on the building of western civilization
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which is just outrageous yeah so he did say this listen to this and this is what i'm saying too
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though you know we'll talk about the pagan thing in a little bit right or what they call pagan
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nationalism because that's basically anything else that's not christian i'm not sure if what they
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think about um muslim and judaism is that still it's abraham is adjacent or something i'm not sure
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about that uh but listen what he said here and this is my argument again that i think this is negative to
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any pro pro-white uh forces and organizations and individual out there to have this uh mindset
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listen to what torba said here i don't care if you are jewish atheist pagan black white hispanic
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asian indian i don't care and neither does god if you accept jesus christ as your lord and savior and
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repent you are my brother you are my sister you are a part of the kingdom of god okay
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jesus christ saves he does not discriminate he is not a racial supremacist god does not value
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one racial or ethnic group over another okay the message and the gospel message of jesus is open
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and the salvation and the saving grace of jesus christ is open to everybody period so convert to
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christianity and i'm fine with you right okay hold on that's an ultimately will be ultimately that will
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mean that you could replace all the white people that have been christians uh with africans or with
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uh south americans or whatever or asians even or something like that and as long as they're just
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christians uh they're fine with that that's what i'm hearing here so then why talk about why defend
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white people at all why talk about demographics at all because he he talks about all these things we
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see all these things on gab all the time why care about any of that at all then if if race doesn't
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matter race doesn't matter ethnicity doesn't matter all that matters is christianity so is he turning
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his back now on the racial aspect possible maybe he's changing his tune right that's possible or he's
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just saying that uh you know he associates whiteness with christianity so that he still sees that that's a
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defense of christianity ultimately um but i'm saying that i i personally think this is very problematic
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right that you can just now how is this different from any other left-wing global homo kind of
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perspective it's not it's kind of like as long as you accept christianity then it's okay then we can
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have a slow replacement as long as they're all christians right i mean 50 percent of uh of african
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nations are christian for nigerians nigerians have christian nationalism right and they're one of the
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biggest uh you know countries in the world their populations are exploding and i i'm not okay with
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them coming to our countries and just because they're christian obviously right no and honestly
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what i what i would like to see is all the peoples of the world returning to their indigenous faiths i
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think everybody would be much better off if that were to happen yeah so anyway so so that's a big
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problem right i think it's a it's a problem uh for anybody who might be you know kind of around our
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circles and then maybe there's some overlap there's some people that are interested in this
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or they think well he's you know i'm a christian so i think this is good and i follow people like
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torba i follow people like milo yiannopoulos or uh nick fuentes of america first or baked alaska or
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something like that i'm not sure if there's any overlap but if it is that that's kind of this is kind
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of for you and basically if you spend more time attacking other pro-white people who are pagan
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uh then you're attacking uh either your own institutions or or any other institution that's
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just going after christians even uh i think that is a horrible and detrimental battle uh to fight
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and i don't think that the fight is there i don't think that's the most important one but it looks
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like to them if we go back to his uh quote there again that that seems to be that his that's his
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biggest axe to grind now there could be potentially a definition issue right where they basically just
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say that anything that's not christianity all of that is kind of pagan and that's obviously
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over simplification there's many other uh faiths and belief system out there but i what i get the
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sense of is that he's attacking intentionally like european paganism that's what it feels like to be
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honest when you read the article it was a little bit about like the babylonians or something like
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that right the uh lancaster report article uh it was a little bit about uh during the during biblical
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times so-called you know pagan nations babylon egypt and things like this right we want to ask the
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question here is it you know if we talk about what what upholds western values and i saw a tweet
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uh the other day and of course you you as well lon i've been thinking about this let me show you the
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tweet real quick is it is it europeans first that build the west or is it religions first that build
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the west if you if you've got to prioritize one of them right and i saw this tweet here it was
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catholicism that gave birth to western civilization which is the greatest civilization in the history of
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mankind so the primary responsibility to stop the downfall of this civilization lies with the
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catholic church right now we just show what the catholic church is up to the the head of the catholic
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church is anti-white anti-western civilization so no and it's not religion that builds societies it's
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the people and in this case it's europeans that built western civilization and it wasn't born just
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overnight in a day with these cathedrals it was a like any society it's an incremental process of
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all those who have gone before you and you build upon what they have done right but what i feel like
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is that they are just shitting all over their ancestors before christianity like society and
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civilization building just began just began with christianity two thousand years ago and that's it
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and everything before that there were these horrible brutes who were just total idiots and morons
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to me that's shitting on your race that's that's crapping on your people and historically historically
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wrong it's incorrect when they're trying to say that these great civilizations weren't built and built
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until christianity i mean roman greece you said egypt persian phoenicians you can even argue that like
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you could even argue that egyptian and babylonian ones might have been indo-aryan at some well of
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course and then outside of the white ones and you have you know chinese and you could put freaking aztec in
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there it's like yeah civilization building didn't happen just when christianity came onto the scene
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you know this has been happening for thousands of years right so and yes and christianity largely has
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been borrowed by the pre-christian faiths a lot of the traditions that were supplanted into it right
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yeah there was a you didn't they didn't do it overnight right and it became christendom the way we
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know it now in the west became unique not because of the text associated with it but because of the
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people that adopted it right and the fact that they took from prior things they adopted things
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that were tweaking there were transformations it was kind of a merger with pagan traditions right
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it took a long time right still christmas and midsummers in many other countries to to this day so
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could you really even argue that it's like these nations that still hold some of these so-called
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pagan traditions alive truly are 100 christian right not really it's a bleed over and as you said it
00:26:39.400
didn't happen overnight it was like dual faith in some countries for a long time hundred years oh at least
00:26:44.140
in some cases right so what we're asking for is a recognition that western civilization would not
00:26:51.580
exist in the way that it exists without the christian church but it would also not exist without the
00:26:57.520
pagan traditions that preceded that right that's right it both contributed to each other and you
00:27:02.280
had to build up over time of civilization you're part of both right yes whether you like it or not
00:27:07.860
your ancestors followed traditional folk faiths long before the abrahamic religions were pushed on
00:27:15.100
them so you can't that's why we say you can't be anti-pagan and pro-white you can't be anti-pagan
00:27:21.360
and pro your own ancestors right you just can't no no and so ultimately you it's kind of like a
00:27:27.780
like a choice essentially you have to do that well are you pro-christian and if you are
00:27:32.560
then uh to accept that your ancestors that they had that with them right yeah and also one of the
00:27:39.520
proofs for this is it's the same argument that we're here well it's not the you know it's the
00:27:43.660
constitution that makes america great right well they tried to export that in liberia and nothing
00:27:49.300
happened there's cannibalism tried right it's because the people and same thing goes here it's
00:27:53.960
not because of the bible that we are great but it's because of who we are and we built civilization
00:28:00.400
and the and western civilization us europeans we did it over thousands of years right it was a
00:28:05.140
collective effort of all these different european peoples over time and and different you know
00:28:09.540
achievements different discoveries at certain points but if it was down to just the ideas or
00:28:15.780
the philosophy or the religious scriptures the the book the bible or whatever you could take that
00:28:21.300
and export that to any other nation around the world and they would have just achieved what we did
00:28:25.660
in the west as well and it has been exported to other countries it has right but that hasn't happened
00:28:29.640
in africa you know choose those or south america or mexico the same thing hasn't happened it's not
00:28:36.120
religion that builds societies it's your it's in our case europeans it's europeans it does it exactly
00:28:41.580
so it's your race that's why we say folk first right yeah and odeo christian values right so we're
00:28:48.400
asking for we're not saying exclude christianity it's never been anything uh uh there's never anything
00:28:54.480
good in there and throw it all out the window and we can you know we're asking for you as a christian
00:29:00.100
to recognize that your ancestors were pagan take the roman empire the roman empire was pagan for about
00:29:06.320
a thousand years when they finally converted or made christianity to a official state religion around
00:29:12.300
325 or so it fell not that long after councils of nicaea right the second one i believe uh it fell
00:29:19.620
about 80 years after that right so you know you could argue this back and forth all day long
00:29:24.660
uh but but one thing we have to recognize is how specifically the uh northern and even central
00:29:32.580
european people contributed to christianity especially medieval christianity this is a good source here
00:29:37.880
called the germanization of early medieval christianity a socio-historic approach to religious
00:29:43.700
transformation by james c russell and that's a very good start to kind of begin recognizing this
00:29:49.760
and that's also why i don't i don't throw out christianity because i know that within that there
00:29:57.280
are our traditions yeah there's some good things in there and in fact you can even look at it this
00:30:01.940
way check this out for example right look at the um look at the gothic cathedrals right beautiful when
00:30:08.860
notre dame in france uh burnt right i mean i was sad i almost cried it was like this is a horrible
00:30:16.240
day for any european anybody who believes in western civilization and i did that as a pagan right yeah
00:30:22.040
why well because first of all begin with the name gothic cathedrals what do you think that comes from
00:30:27.580
who are the gothic peoples right the gothic peoples first originated in scandinavia and sweden
00:30:33.040
i'm sitting next to one right now right where i grew up and they of course migrated to uh
00:30:38.300
kind of central europe or the era of poland today they migrated further down a little bit later
00:30:42.880
you can look at some of these pictures beautiful buildings these are stone monuments right but does
00:30:50.700
it remind you of anything i have some slides here to show you just just take a look at some of these
00:30:53.980
first here beautiful architecture this could only come from the european mind right but the the way
00:31:00.720
that they look there's a distinct reason for that and it's very pagan right these are essentially
00:31:07.160
trees these are trees with the canopy at the very top these are very organic structures right
00:31:13.900
these are basically the so-called pagan evil sacred groves that man worshipped in not not
00:31:22.100
worshipping trees but a veneration of nature and the beauty of nature right and these buildings
00:31:27.800
are let me look at this this is in uh barcelona i think one of the uh one of the uh cathedrals
00:31:34.160
there uh familia i forget what it was called right but beautiful beautiful building that's that's
00:31:41.300
tree that's trees that's trees stretching up to the heavens look at that uh undeniable right i mean
00:31:47.700
look at uh even the people have argued like how the how the light flows in between the the stone
00:31:53.100
pillars right uh these are basically sacred groves they're made in stone perfected by man
00:32:00.000
right you take natural elements let's go over to a look at some of the forests now right the the how
00:32:05.140
the trees look right when the light uh shimmers through uh the trees like that they're that and
00:32:11.240
these were the early temples of our pre-christian ancestors they would go out to these forests right
00:32:17.460
to have their rituals and their ceremonies and their gatherings it was the early day church right
00:32:23.460
yes and and then interesting you have over time too right when we actually started you know i think
00:32:27.460
it was a natural of course veneration for nature that's where god presided right that's that's
00:32:32.120
where the gods were that's where the the spirit was god is in nature yes uh and then eventually when
00:32:38.020
we start planting trees look at this here right that in rows like this you you this is the middle
00:32:42.740
way right of us taming nature of us basically going to a place from where we recognize nature
00:32:47.300
we're one with nature nature is where the spirit and the gods are eventually we learn to control
00:32:53.920
nature and take over and that's part of western civilization too of us you know not only learning
00:32:58.960
from it but like harnessing it right bending it to our will to a certain extent when you start planting
00:33:03.960
these trees like this in these rows right what does this remind you of this is this is a a passage of a
00:33:10.040
of a cathedral right you can go back and forth between some of these uh some of these pictures
00:33:14.300
here right look at that that's the trees right there all right that's what it looks like that's why
00:33:18.280
these are gothic pagan people inspired these buildings in stone that's what's so remarkable
00:33:23.280
about this right uh there's other pictures too that people have taken anybody if you look up to the the
00:33:28.500
top of the canopy right but this is a the nave of a church these are sacred groves uh there's a there's
00:33:34.640
another one right there of like looking looking up right at the uh at the at the ceiling uh of a of a
00:33:40.420
church there's like overlaps look at how organic that looks with the the trees and stuff right
00:33:44.240
so this is why this is this is this this came from us it could only have come from us in fact
00:33:52.120
if you want to dig even deeper look into the fascinating story of even how the cathedrals
00:33:56.820
were built overall look at someone like falconelli and his work on the great cathedrals
00:34:01.100
very mysterious we don't know much about the knowledge where it came from and you could even argue
00:34:05.760
right that when western civilization really gets going is of course during the renaissance period right
00:34:11.500
science art everything in this explodes right but where do they dig out all of this knowledge
00:34:16.740
from well it's the de medici family who started digging out the ancient knowledge that came from
00:34:21.920
the ancient world egyptian babylonian uh uh you know the palmyra right the carthage some of these
00:34:28.880
old areas right and uh basically that was that was aryan indo-aryan indo-european civilization
00:34:35.380
that built that you know alexander the great right all these great uh you know sparta right
00:34:40.720
all these great civilizations great stories that we have that's our people right and they start
00:34:45.840
digging out that occult esoteric western become the western occult esoteric tradition and everything
00:34:51.640
just explodes and we did the point is we did it all together that's the thing it's our race it's
00:34:56.760
our people who did this amazing things amazing accomplishments it could never have been done
00:35:01.400
without paganism or without christianity in the form that currently has and don't and you can't
00:35:06.320
insult your your ancestors who some people believe like our ancestors didn't have a code of ethics or
00:35:14.420
morals until the bible showed up like they were just immoral people who didn't know right from wrong
00:35:19.220
and didn't know what good behavior was until the bible shows up that's very insulting to your ancestors
00:35:23.700
yeah of course they knew of course they knew not to lie cheat and steal and you know cheat on your
00:35:29.200
wife and these are these are things that are built into us into humanity like we know what right and
00:35:35.160
wrong is we didn't have to wait for essentially some jews to show up in the desert to to give us
00:35:40.100
our moral code that's very insulting it's very insulting and it's also very it's really fitting
00:35:45.160
in line with the liberal agenda to just be like your ancestors basically were we're all evil horrible
00:35:50.200
people right if that's what you're going to say before christianity right like these people we
00:35:54.420
should just disregard all of all of this uh prior to christianity because these people were not good
00:36:00.640
people essentially is what they're saying people who are anti-pagan yeah i mean this is like the
00:36:05.380
jared diamond uh is that his name yeah the oil guns and wheat or what is it called again is what
00:36:11.700
it's i'll throw it up on screen here but uh you know basically condensed to boil down it's basically
00:36:16.860
well europeans just happened to be in the right area geographically they just they were just lucky
00:36:21.880
and that's the only reason why uh you know they became successful they just could grow this plentiful
00:36:26.700
food and they got time to spend on other things and that's the only reason why industrial revolution
00:36:31.360
came from europeans my answer is no i think we would have done it essentially almost anywhere where
00:36:36.960
we set our foot and we've we've managed to maintain civilization almost on any place that we've set
00:36:41.840
foot as well maybe there are a couple of exceptions but mostly no read something like tacitus germania right
00:36:48.000
that's a very good initial reading stop shitting on your ancestors if you're pro-white stop shitting on
00:36:53.780
them learn what they said about them and especially you know you know i really like the germanic stuff
00:36:58.600
but there's great stuff on the slavic tribes he writes that about the groves too and think about
00:37:02.720
that like of why they made the churches to look like sacred groves or in nature you know i mean he says
00:37:08.340
they acknowledge chieftains on the grounds of birth but appoint their generals on grounds of courage
00:37:13.300
nor is a chieftain's power unlimited or exercised arbitrarily while their generals lead rather by example
00:37:21.120
than command through admiration for their energy and conspicuousness in the front ranks for the rest
00:37:27.480
of their priests are allowed to inflict capital punishment imprisonment or flogging and by the way
00:37:32.680
they talk in the here too how uh immoral behavior was like they they literally like drowned uh people
00:37:40.200
that were behaving immorally and stuff like that you know capital punishment he talks about the strict
00:37:45.020
marriage uh laws and and and rules that they had right monogamous i mean it's it contains all of
00:37:51.720
it basically and it says here certain effigies and emblems brought from sacred groves they carry into
00:37:57.080
battle but the grace and enticement to courage is that neither chance nor random association contributes
00:38:02.600
a squadron or a wedge but rather family and kinship and their partners are close by so that the
00:38:09.720
women's wail and the children's cries can be heard these are the witnesses most precious to them this is their
00:38:16.240
greatest source of praise to mothers to wives they show their wounds who do not shrink from demanding
00:38:22.560
a sight from them numbering the blows and delivering food and encouragement right very strong family bonds
00:38:28.660
yeah of course because family is what holds a society together it's what holds a village together and i think if we get
00:38:33.980
into also like some of kevin mcdonald's work too about you know living in these cold living in these
00:38:39.040
cold villages right you have to trust each other you have to be able to depend on each other you can't
00:38:44.280
act like a an idiot who's lying and cheating and stealing and trying to get your you know friend's
00:38:49.700
wife or whatever you'll get thrown out of the village put in the right it's essential for their
00:38:54.080
survival to work together and have unity right so they did have their code of ethics and and their
00:39:00.000
morals so it really bothers me to hear when people say well you know what pagan all the pagan
00:39:06.160
civilizations uh they all fell right because they didn't have a christian ethics well look at us now
00:39:12.160
we don't it's it's global and as i said they didn't either we still have pagan traditions i mean we
00:39:17.140
covered the other week the grain god survived late into the 20th century no we still have we still
00:39:22.820
have you we have midsummer we have easter like these are the news for you guys but that's that's
00:39:27.480
pagan roots but what's happening now is not a pagan nationalism this is globo homo internationalism
00:39:35.100
these are people that are like the they don't like christianity or paganism they don't like
00:39:40.200
anything that's natural law i mean the root of paganism is you know family and soil right blood
00:39:46.260
and honor and nation these people are the opposite of all of those things absolutely no it's a new age
00:39:51.840
earth worship religion i think we can all agree on that maybe so it's dishonest to just put oh let's
00:39:56.720
just put everything in the pagan categories are you going to put a you know buddhism hinduism uh
00:40:02.100
it's just the same as asatru and just the same as american indian religions that's just that's
00:40:07.000
just dishonest look i mean japan has obviously been doing very well right for uh for some time and
00:40:11.980
they're pagan right because they're not following the abrahamic faith right uh iceland have uh accepted
00:40:17.500
asatru as an official religion in the country iceland is doing pretty well at least for now we'll see
00:40:22.740
what happens with the vaccine right but uh you know there are there are other countries they're
00:40:26.160
doing other things and uh it's and of course christianity has not been a guarantee uh against
00:40:33.740
globalism or this uh degeneracy now it's welcoming it it's being pushed from the pulpit in some cases
00:40:40.760
here's another one uh they also judge from the greatness of the divine that a god should not be
00:40:45.160
enclosed within walls i found this interesting right because they they had that initially they didn't
00:40:49.600
want to close god into a space right nor given the likeness of a human face rather they consecrate
00:40:54.760
woods and groves and gives sacred names to a mystery which only all can behold right so but
00:41:00.500
something happened along the way as we started getting influence of other uh other traditions as
00:41:06.960
well uh they started bit they did at some point build temples right wooden temples they did place
00:41:12.000
gods inside of there but that's a that's what i'm saying that's an evolution through the gothic
00:41:16.580
cathedrals and eventually the very consecration of sacred groves and woods that that is rooted in
00:41:23.040
paganism was actually became the building itself yes you see what i'm saying yes and and and god was
00:41:29.120
housed inside of that building is a perfect beautiful marriage of our europeans ancestors how they merged
00:41:34.760
pagan traditions uh with their new faith years in the making this is it doesn't just happen overnight
00:41:40.560
with just oh christianity came that's it it's all built in it's simplified it's dishonest and everyone
00:41:46.700
before that went to hell right yeah then i guess if they didn't accept jesus and they didn't know about
00:41:52.760
jesus this whole time before they're all all your ancestors are rotting in hell right now how close
00:41:59.380
no sorry how close has man got to replicate the wonders of natural creation the first thing that
00:42:07.020
comes to mind is the gothic architecture why when we stand humbled in its grand wide halls people are
00:42:13.400
coming from all over the world to see some of these buildings by the way and in some cases we don't
00:42:17.020
even know today how to build some of this stuff we don't even know how they did it rather i mean you
00:42:21.700
could replicate it but even some of the early stained glass windows techniques it's like this is
00:42:25.520
fascinating story look into that uh they say here when we stand humbled in its grand wide halls under its
00:42:32.240
ascending arches we are reminded of the soaring trees of the forest the grand pillars and vaults are
00:42:38.160
the trunks and the branches of high oaks and on the exterior of these noble temples the piercing stone
00:42:44.500
fingers reach desperately towards the heavens samuel taylor coleridge said the principle of gothic
00:42:50.580
architecture is infinity made imaginable this is the key to understanding gothic style its principal source
00:42:57.460
of aesthetics are the ever-expanding gigantic forests of northern europe right read read some articles
00:43:04.400
like this the mad genius of gothic architecture great great piece right yeah so in conclusion if you
00:43:09.840
want to take anything away here from this discussion i'd say this who built the west well europeans did and
00:43:15.280
we would have done it uh more or less in uh in in in maybe not the same way but we would have done it
00:43:21.700
regardless of what our belief system was and it was a trajectory over time and the point here too is
00:43:26.740
uh do not uh infight do not um put down your ancestors this is exactly what the uh the critical
00:43:35.000
theory people do the deconstructionists do right they continue saying you are not unique you didn't
00:43:39.740
do any you didn't build that right essentially and we're not saying christian didn't build that we're
00:43:44.160
saying we built it together right uh they were christianized many of them by that time uh but they
00:43:48.840
also borrowed from a previous tradition so uh stop the infighting if you're pro-white don't be
00:43:54.960
anti-pagan you don't have to be pro-pagan and push it if you want to but don't put it down all right
00:44:01.200
yes and to pagans out there also recognize that we have a shared uh common bond and we have way more
00:44:07.460
in common uh than we have uh you know not and essentially we're being surrounded by hostile
00:44:12.540
people we're being slowly replaced and taken over and those who hate us they don't give a shit about
00:44:17.420
what you uh what you what you have in your mind they see your skin color and and you're on their
00:44:22.000
list that's basically that we have to we have to work together we have to join and we have to make
00:44:27.800
sure or at least well these have different divisions or different uh you know two different
00:44:32.320
camps but that we have a cool joint common goal common goal here essentially exactly
00:44:37.420
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