Red Ice TV - Covid Takeover - John Waters

00:00:00.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us here today.

00:00:27.460 Okay, Henrik, back with you. Tuesday interview for you guys. Hope you're doing well at RedEyes.tv and of course you can watch us live as well on RedEyesMembers.com.

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00:00:48.380 Today, we have a special guest for you guys. John Waters, author and journalist from Ireland, is joining us today to talk about the general situation when it comes to the COVID takeover.

00:00:59.280 I have his sub stack up here to my right. We can check out some of the articles later on there.

00:01:04.560 He's covered a lot of interesting things when it comes to what has happened over the last couple of 15 to 18 months or so since this plandemic started.

00:01:15.160 The case-demic. Now, there's a lot of twists and turns to this and we've talked about this, of course, over the last few months because it seems that when the vaccine was introduced, we've seen a lot more variants pop up.

00:01:25.580 We've seen actually more people becoming ill, unlike what we saw back in 2020 when there's actually most of this seems to be generated by the media.

00:01:34.220 This seems to be a case-demic. It was run by fault, the RT-PCR test for the most part.

00:01:39.440 And now, as we go into the autumn and winter here in 2021, it's going to be very interesting to see what happens, and I think due to the vaccine.

00:01:48.360 And, you know, this is something I'm going to talk with John about as well.

00:01:51.760 But, John, thank you so much for coming on. It's a pleasure having you here. How are you today?

00:01:56.120 So much, Henrik. Pleasure to be with you.

00:01:58.980 The same, the same. So tell us a little bit about, you're, of course, a popular journalist.

00:02:03.220 You've been writing for many years. I think you started with the culture and music and these kinds of things, right, when you began writing?

00:02:10.380 I started in rock and roll as a music journalist with Hot Press, which is the Irish, the main Irish music paper, back in the long time ago now, the early 80s.

00:02:21.200 And I spent a few years with them, and then I moved into the mainstream, and I was a columnist with the Irish Times, which is, I suppose, the leading quality newspaper, or was at that point, in Ireland.

00:02:35.100 And I was a columnist with them for 20-odd years, 24 years, I think, or something like that.

00:02:41.120 And for the last five or six years, I stopped being a journalist then, pretty much, at least an inclination, because I kind of had decided that it had become a really disgraceful profession already, you know, even before this COVID episode.

00:02:57.240 It seemed to me that it was so relevant with ideology and poisonous, kind of toxic, you know, agendas, that I didn't really think it was any more the profession I joined.

00:03:11.260 And it wasn't about exploring the world and exploring ideas.

00:03:15.500 It was about really promoting certain views of the world and imposing them on its readers or, you know, audiences.

00:03:21.260 And so I kind of, after that, I mean, I sort of said to my wife several times, you know, and I've said this publicly, that, you know, when I die, if any of my obituaries use the word journalist, she's to request a clarification and a correction the following day.

00:03:36.780 You know, absolutely, you know, he denied, he recanted this profession.

00:03:41.520 But I do, I have been writing in recent years.

00:03:45.120 I wrote for a few years for First Things, the American Religious Affairs magazine, which is, I think, a great magazine.

00:03:52.080 And I was writing up for them up to, well, I occasionally do.

00:03:55.520 I've done another piece for them very recently, which is going out soon about ABBA.

00:03:59.580 Bizarrely.

00:04:00.520 Back to my roots, as it were.

00:04:03.300 And, but I've also started my own web blog, I call it.

00:04:08.420 Not blog, I don't like the word blog.

00:04:10.840 Web blog, I think, is, you know, whatever.

00:04:13.940 And so I write, you know, I'm back where I started writing pretty, you know, extensive articles about things.

00:04:20.540 I mean, when I started out, you could write 4,000, 5,000 words, no problem, you know, in music magazines then.

00:04:27.380 But, you know, by the time I left the Irish Times, I was down to 840 words per week, you know.

00:04:32.660 And I used to spend maybe two hours writing my column and then three hours trying to condense it into the 840 words.

00:04:40.360 And I read them back now and they read to me like, you know, telegrams.

00:04:43.480 I don't know if people should remember what telegrams are.

00:04:45.620 Text is the equivalent nowadays.

00:04:47.440 Right, yep.

00:04:48.020 And so, so that's kind of where I am now.

00:04:50.520 I'm, I'm, I'm still writing and I've written, I've had, I've published about 10 books and, and mainly about Ireland or, you know, questions like religion and spirituality.

00:05:00.980 But not spirituality in the kind of crystals or incense sense, you know, it's different, but personal kind of, the, the, the, the structure of the human person.

00:05:10.120 And they're that whole dimension of the human person.

00:05:13.520 And, but most of my books are about Ireland, even when they're about those things.

00:05:18.480 And so that's why, that's who I am pretty much.

00:05:22.760 And so I'm on, on John Waters Unchained is my website and, or whatever it's called, blog site or web blog site.

00:05:30.560 And so that's, that's who I am.

00:05:32.800 Excellent.

00:05:33.180 Well, thank you for that.

00:05:33.840 And yeah, what was it?

00:05:35.080 Give us back the bad roads.

00:05:36.940 Was that your latest book?

00:05:38.560 Right.

00:05:38.920 That's right.

00:05:39.400 Yeah.

00:05:39.580 Yeah.

00:05:39.840 That's, that's kind of the story of why I left journalism pretty much.

00:05:42.580 And, and, you know, a little bit, it's in the form of a letter to my father who I've written books about before.

00:05:48.220 Yeah.

00:05:48.540 Who was just a, you know, he's a mail car contractor.

00:05:51.440 He used to drive a mail car, which is kind of like the, the Irish equivalent of a stagecoach.

00:05:55.640 And I did that myself for a couple of years as well.

00:05:58.100 And I used to help him, of course, when I was a kid.

00:06:01.840 And so that, that book has kind of, it's been, it's kind of been an underground success because of course,

00:06:07.860 none of the bookshops would stock it properly or none of the newspapers would review it or, so it actually, by promoting it online, it actually became a bestseller.

00:06:17.480 But nobody knows except people who read it.

00:06:19.440 Crazy. 0.94

00:06:21.440 Crazy. 0.93

00:06:21.800 So have you been, what's happened over the last few years?

00:06:24.280 Because of course, and we'll, we'll talk, you know, more about COVID in detail and we can talk about what happened, what's happening in Ireland specifically.

00:06:29.500 And then we can talk about the broader world and stuff and how you view this from your perspective.

00:06:33.960 You know, you have the advantage of being around longer than Ives.

00:06:37.540 I think you've experienced a different type of world, one further removed from all the modernity that we're seeing now.

00:06:44.440 And just the insanity of the globalism and the, well, all the forces that we're seeing that are utilizing and exploiting,

00:06:50.660 essentially the COVID pandemic to, to, to, to take more control, but what, what would you.

00:06:56.120 Yeah, very much.

00:06:56.860 I mean, that's right, Henrik.

00:06:58.280 Like I often feel that I kind of, I was born sort of in the 19th century and grew up to the 20th century and now I'm in the 21st, you know,

00:07:07.040 so I've kind of have a spectrum in, in the nature of the way Ireland was.

00:07:10.660 And I think the way my own family situation was, which was kind of quite basic and, and old fashioned.

00:07:17.680 I think I have a, a pretty broad understanding of kind of what's happened to the, to the, to Ireland in a very kind of, you know, zoom lens sense.

00:07:28.620 And, and also in the world, because Ireland sort of comes to things late and then really moves very fast through them, you know?

00:07:35.580 So that's part of our, our, our makeup.

00:07:39.200 And so, yeah, I think I, I, I kind of have a particular ringside seat on, on modernity and it's working in a particular place and time.

00:07:49.720 Yeah.

00:07:50.080 Because I mean, I, I've seen my country, Sweden transform.

00:07:52.960 I'm in America now, but I've been here for almost 10 years.

00:07:57.120 And of course, you know, in the future, I hope to go in the future, if we can travel again, I hope to, I hope to go back to, to Sweden and bring my kids and stuff, obviously.

00:08:04.940 But we'll see what happens on that front.

00:08:06.240 It looks like this is never going to go away.

00:08:07.660 But anyway, just in, in, through my lifetime, I've seen Sweden go through this transformation as well.

00:08:13.920 Of course, it's been coming, you know, multicultural.

00:08:16.500 We've lost our heritage.

00:08:17.920 We've lost our sense of, you know, spirituality of sorts.

00:08:20.580 We've been dominated by modern ideas.

00:08:23.600 You know, the, the, the kind of, well, if you will, the, the science that led us here with the pandemic and all that stuff.

00:08:29.140 Right.

00:08:29.340 Ireland has gone through a very quick transformation as well.

00:08:33.340 When did you start seeing that, that change?

00:08:35.720 When, when did things first, like, when did you notice this first?

00:08:39.020 I think in the 1980s, it began to manifest itself.

00:08:42.440 I, I, although looking back at my life now, I, I think I lived through a very, very rich time, culturally, in Ireland.

00:08:48.580 Because it was a country that kind of was, as it were, waking up as I was a child.

00:08:53.680 And, you know, and it started to sense to modernity.

00:08:55.500 And, of course, as a young person, you think that's all good, you know.

00:08:59.340 And you want it to be exciting and new and, and, and, you know, progressive or whatever that is, you know.

00:09:04.680 And, and, and for a while, you get quite intoxicated with it.

00:09:08.240 I certainly did.

00:09:09.720 And I would have, in my youth, I regarded myself as a bit of a lefty, you know.

00:09:14.240 Yeah.

00:09:15.660 Nominally, anyway.

00:09:16.460 I wasn't very ideological.

00:09:17.780 I wasn't steeped in Marxism or anything like that.

00:09:19.800 But I had those kind of, I know, in a certain sense, you know, superficially, leftism seems to be, at first sight, a kind of a good, nice way of dealing with the world, you know, you know, sharing and caring and all that stuff.

00:09:32.520 And I kind of was bought into that.

00:09:33.900 And it was also kind of, I think, quite close to, in a certain sense, the kind of leftism that was being peddled in was kind of, in a certain sense, quite close to Christianity in certain respects.

00:09:42.280 So we'd kind of grown up with that.

00:09:44.180 And it seemed to make sense.

00:09:45.400 But I think that in the 80s, then, we started to see all this sort of stuff, battling over abortion and all of this kind of stuff.

00:09:53.080 Yeah.

00:09:53.880 Divorce.

00:09:54.300 We didn't have a divorce until the mid-90s.

00:09:57.560 But there were battles going on for about a decade or so before that.

00:10:01.200 And so that was kind of, you see, Ireland has a very, very good constitution, which is kind of written, was written in 1937.

00:10:08.900 And it's kind of predicated on the whole idea of, you know, individual rights are very strong, natural rights are very strong, but also the rights of families and all of those things, which are more complicated organisms.

00:10:21.600 And that, it seems to me, has been a big, regarded as a big impediment by those who wish to move in on our country and capture it and change it to their liking, the constitution.

00:10:34.880 And essentially, there's been a series of attacks on it over the last 40 years, but aggressively so in the past decade, when we'd have three, we've had three major referendums, which have essentially taken a sledgehammer to three of the principles, natural rights, personal rights, articles of the constitution, which are 40, 41 and 42, which have to do with the right to life, the right to the family rights and the right of families to educate their children.

00:11:01.840 And those things are all in regards up for grabs now.

00:11:05.120 And we've had, you know, different referendums, one purporting to have to promote children's rights, which of course sounds wonderful.

00:11:12.020 But in fact, once you start to think about it, and then when you think about it, I say, well, what children need rights other than the ones that they have to their parents?

00:11:19.960 Because their parents are responsible for them until they're of age.

00:11:24.780 And of course, the parents need to be able to exercise those rights freely in order to protect their own children, who clearly are being immature, are not in a position to, as it were, decide everything for themselves.

00:11:36.200 So that was, I was involved in that referendum.

00:11:41.700 We fought it.

00:11:42.480 We almost won it, actually.

00:11:44.120 It was the closest we've gotten a referendum.

00:11:45.780 Then we had in 2015 so-called marriage equality, which is, you know, gay marriage, which was again taking a sledgehammer to Article 41 and basically changed the meanings of the word family, parenting and marriage.

00:12:00.120 And then in 2018, we had a final abortion referendum in which abortion was passed into law.

00:12:10.160 And essentially that referendum was quite extraordinary and appalling, really, because, of course, you know, the right to life being a natural right, like it was in our constitution by way of an amendment.

00:12:23.860 But that's misleading to the extent that it's not that people vote in the right.

00:12:29.100 They simply vote in the mention of the right.

00:12:32.260 The right is supposed to exist eternally.

00:12:35.920 And the very fact that they had actually inserted as amendment made it easier to vote it out or to appear to be voting it out.

00:12:42.620 Of course, you can't vote a natural right out of existence, you know, theoretically and indeed morally. 0.91

00:12:48.380 But you can nominally do it.

00:12:50.240 And that's what they've done.

00:12:50.980 They've aggregated themselves to power to destroy fundamental rights to a vote of the people, which is meaningless in my view.

00:13:02.260 People can't vote up and down on each other's rights, in my opinion.

00:13:05.700 This will be barbaric.

00:13:06.740 And it was barbaric.

00:13:08.220 So we opposed all that.

00:13:09.980 And that's kind of so.

00:13:11.580 See, the history of Ireland in my lifetime was really.

00:13:16.540 You come back to the economic.

00:13:17.960 Ireland, after independence, which was like 100 years ago, went through several really rough decades.

00:13:26.540 Not surprisingly, because, you know, the world was between two world wars and, you know, there was all kinds of stuff going on.

00:13:32.160 And nobody was really all that interested in those times and helping out, you know, new fledgling nations.

00:13:37.960 And so we were struggling.

00:13:40.080 By the time we got to the 40s and 50s, like there was massive immigration out of Ireland.

00:13:43.900 And we were hemorrhaging our best and our brightest, as it were.

00:13:48.740 And then in the 60s, a new kind of thinking crept in, which is more or less to kind of bring in outside industries, foreign direct investment, which is only good as a kind of a booster rocket of your own economy, if you would be able to do it like that.

00:14:05.360 But unfortunately, it became the sole instrument of our economic life.

00:14:08.740 What was it?

00:14:09.120 Dell, Microsoft, these big companies came in, right?

00:14:12.180 And big pharma.

00:14:14.120 Big pharma, too.

00:14:15.520 Yeah, like really lots of industries, chemical industries.

00:14:18.680 And I mean, I've often written about this because people find this hard to believe.

00:14:22.660 But when we were actually inviting the pharmaceutical industries to Ireland, we offered them as an incentive the right to pollute our landscape.

00:14:30.540 You know, they were more like, they were told, look, Ireland's got a pristine landscape.

00:14:35.500 You don't have to worry.

00:14:36.500 You can pollute it for years.

00:14:37.820 Nobody will notice.

00:14:38.660 You know, that was kind of it.

00:14:39.920 It was called a natural endowment factor, you know, the absorbing capacity of the Irish landscape.

00:14:46.080 And so that's the kind of, you know, ethics that we started this so-called modernity with.

00:14:51.780 And so what happened then, you see, the next phase of that then was the financial services industry came in the late 80s, big time.

00:15:01.380 There was a financial, international financial services center built in Dublin.

00:15:05.720 And that was, on its own terms, very successful.

00:15:08.840 And it attracted huge numbers of international banks.

00:15:11.060 And then, of course, we introduced this very low corporation tax, which attracted not just the banks and all those others, but it also began to attract big tech.

00:15:20.080 And that was the most fatal, that was the most deadly thing of all, because they came in.

00:15:26.420 And immediately, of course, they decided that Ireland was actually quite a good place if it weren't for a certain problematic aspect.

00:15:32.040 One was kind of that it had this rump of quite conservative Catholics.

00:15:36.560 Number two, it had this extraordinary constitution.

00:15:38.980 And, you know, that at that time we had a pretty free media.

00:15:44.520 All that's gone now, you see, pretty much.

00:15:47.160 And basically, we have, in a sense, you know, the pure and fundamental and natural meaning of the word fascism, which is a partnership between the government, which is no longer really democratic, and the corporations, who basically run Ireland by decree.

00:16:04.700 What is, yeah, I mean, it's like a definition issue in a sense that it's like, is it the corporations running the government, or is it the government running the corporation?

00:16:14.460 Now we have public-private partnership, right?

00:16:16.580 This is one of these things that the people at the World Bank, Bank of International Settlements, even the World Economic Forum, they've talked about that for at least two decades, I think.

00:16:26.560 And even actually the way the pandemic has played out, we've seen that because we're seeing a lot of the responsibility on the kind of things that the government want to change and impose on people is not, I mean, in some cases it is by government, but in many cases it's now by the private sector, right?

00:16:42.500 Well, if you want to go into our business, you have to be vaccinated, for example, or you have to wear a mask, or you have to comply to these kinds of things.

00:16:49.700 And so the government can throw up its arms and say, well, you know, it's a private corporation, they can do whatever they want.

00:16:55.640 But of course, on the back end, John, we know that it's swing-door politics, revolving-door politics.

00:17:00.680 People go from the government sector over to the private sector and then back again.

00:17:05.080 It's an elite at the top, right?

00:17:07.100 Yeah, yeah, well, you see, Enric, like, when I was a youngster, you know, in my 20s and so on, Ireland was, you know, profoundly conservative in every conceivable sense.

00:17:20.900 And that kind of, I suppose, to my shame, has irritated me then, you know, a little bit.

00:17:25.860 And so, as I said, I was kind of somewhat leftish in my outlook.

00:17:30.220 But it's possible to exaggerate the sleepiness and the kind of conservatism of Ireland in those years, and right up to quite recently, you know, that the main parties, Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, are profoundly conservative, were initially Catholic parties in ideological terms, but not at all now, actually.

00:17:50.940 And then you have other smaller, rump parties, and the system is kind of quite fluid.

00:17:58.040 You have all kinds of coalitions coming and going and all that.

00:18:01.080 But the interesting thing is that the parties are now, the conservative parties are now extreme leftist parties.

00:18:10.060 Like, you know, in everything but kind of, I suppose, what you might call core, up to the moment, core economic policy.

00:18:16.400 And I think that's going to change.

00:18:17.600 That is changing already.

00:18:18.580 You know, they're talking now effectively like Marxists in some respects.

00:18:22.220 Yeah, it's true.

00:18:23.120 But these parties, which were, like, really kind of, you know, country, bumpkin, conservatives, like, they weren't ideological in any way.

00:18:32.920 There was no tradition of conservatives in Ireland, which was a real problem, despite having Edmund Burke as one of our, you know, progeny.

00:18:40.820 We were, you know, and so what happened then was when these ideologically run corporations came in, they started to tell the government what they would like from Ireland, what they would like Ireland to be, the kind of place they would want.

00:18:58.660 So obviously you would need to have gay marriage in Ireland, and obviously you would need to have abortion. 0.99

00:19:02.300 You know, these are basic services, aren't they, if you're running corporations these days.

00:19:06.700 And that's kind of where it went.

00:19:08.420 And now what you actually find is that these country bumpkin politicians are now posturing as woke liberals, you know.

00:19:14.620 Which is quite funny in respect, some respects, but it isn't funny really anymore.

00:19:19.460 You know, it ceased to be funny, particularly in the COVID episode.

00:19:22.720 Yeah.

00:19:22.940 Because they're actually now quite insane.

00:19:25.520 And they are now, you know, really kind of almost animalistic in their rage against Ireland as it was, or as it remains, to the extent that it remains like that.

00:19:37.540 And determined to expunge any traces of the old thinking. 0.98

00:19:41.200 Thinking, like, you know, we have politicians standing up in Parliament now and saying, we have to put behind this idiotic notion of sovereignty. 0.97

00:19:49.020 You know, we're moving on into the modern world, you know. 0.95

00:19:52.040 We have disc jockeys on radio telling people that Ireland no longer belongs to the Irish.

00:19:57.580 Get that notion out of your head.

00:19:59.740 This is the dominant kind of chord of our note of our culture now, politically speaking.

00:20:06.060 And that's become quite contagious, so to speak, because it's accompanied by this culture of censorship, which is very subtle.

00:20:20.720 I mean, it became very pronounced during the campaign for the gay marriage referendum, where people started kind of censoring.

00:20:28.500 You could see it in – I'm talking now, I'm not talking about some kind of macro kind of analysis or theory.

00:20:35.340 I'm talking about just to see the kind of demeanor of people that you would know yourself in your own community, in the cafes, in the pubs, where people started kind of when they were having conversations and anybody said something that was maybe slightly edgy from the point of view of the referendum,

00:20:53.300 or maybe not that referendum, or maybe not that referendum, but another referendum, or something else related.

00:20:59.740 People would start looking around each other, you know, thinking, is it okay to answer this?

00:21:05.220 Or, okay, keep your voice down, you know.

00:21:08.600 And actually, Joyce Merlot, the psychologist, wrote about this in one of his books, I think it was The Rape of the Mind,

00:21:16.680 where he talks about that precise thing, you know, that people no longer have conversations.

00:21:22.420 They simply, you know, exchange kind of niceties and, you know, polite phrases with one another.

00:21:31.500 And that amounts to – but Ireland used to be a hugely garrulous and, you know, free-thinking country in the past.

00:21:38.880 But that's all gone now under that influence.

00:21:41.020 Because people are – because, you see, you had these kind of LGBT goons, like, rampaging through the streets and, you know, 1.00

00:21:47.040 trying to cancel anybody who dared even to ask a question about what they were proposing.

00:21:51.880 I mean, I found that myself.

00:21:53.420 I admired experiences where I was, in the end, opposing the referendum on different grounds to do with, you know, the Constitution and so on.

00:22:01.160 And also particularly with children's rights and the right to parenthood and so on.

00:22:04.520 But, I mean, I would be, you know, doing a meeting, which had nothing to do with the referendum.

00:22:09.740 And this happened several times in the course of the campaign.

00:22:12.200 And I would be rung on the way – I'd get a phone call on the way from the organiser saying,

00:22:16.500 listen, we've had hundreds of calls all day threatening to, you know, descend on the meeting if it goes ahead.

00:22:24.720 And, you know, we'd be on to the police and they don't really want to do anything, you know.

00:22:29.120 And that's – you know, we have the police force now going around with rainbow painted, you know, on the side of their cars.

00:22:36.980 So, you know, if you're being attacked by an LGBT gang of goons, forget about running to the police to make complaints about it. 1.00

00:22:44.860 That's the message. 0.94

00:22:46.080 Right.

00:22:46.520 Yeah.

00:22:46.700 You're seeing all this kind of stuff happening in a very short time in a country that used to be very settled and steady and, you know, set in its ways.

00:22:57.120 Maybe not an ideal thing, way to be.

00:23:01.180 But now, boy, does it seem ideal, looking back, that, you know, it took a long time to change things.

00:23:07.660 It took a long time to persuade people of anything radical or even mildly innovative in terms of political policy or whatever.

00:23:14.980 Now, these things are forced in through without any discussion.

00:23:18.980 You know, they're just announced.

00:23:21.080 And, in effect, it's totalitarian in all but name.

00:23:24.320 I mean, this is the nature of it.

00:23:27.240 Well, you do have a couple of big globalists over there.

00:23:30.000 Peter Sutherland, of course, he died, I think, was it 2018 or something like that, right?

00:23:33.540 He was – yeah, it was Fine Gael, right, that he was a member of.

00:23:37.320 And then he went to go work for the UN.

00:23:39.460 He became an ambassador even for migration, right, I believe.

00:23:42.500 He was big in the World Economic Forum and all these kinds of things.

00:23:45.880 Even Bono, like the activists of some of these rock musicians have been very, I think, instrumental in helping to transform Ireland.

00:23:53.880 But what have you put your finger on in terms of how and who did it?

00:23:58.100 Yeah, well, I think Sutherland was a big figure, all right.

00:24:02.100 You know, I think it was the foreign direct investment policy first and foremost.

00:24:07.020 You know, up to that point, and we're talking about 70s, Ireland was regarded – and then for quite a couple of decades later as well – Ireland was regarded as a bit of, as I say, a sleepy backwater.

00:24:18.100 And, you know, nothing much happened there.

00:24:20.820 And, you know, rock bands would leave it off their tour schedules, you know, and that was a bit of a bugbear with lots of us in those years.

00:24:27.800 But then these people started coming here, and they realized that actually Ireland had lots of appealing characteristics, you know.

00:24:36.380 So, I mean, apart from the obvious, you know, the population spoke English and were moderately well-educated and certainly could be easily educated to the needs of the tech industry or the chemical industry.

00:24:49.540 But there was also, like, just as an Ireland, as the weather is, you know, we don't like it so much.

00:24:55.560 I mean, we complain about it all the time.

00:24:56.900 But it's actually very nice.

00:24:58.220 You know, people who come from outside, from extreme climates of any kind, actually love it in Ireland.

00:25:02.040 So, there's lots of – and, of course, it's a very beautiful country and very easygoing country, very kind of, you know, laid back and there was in those years.

00:25:11.160 Yeah, I was in Ireland.

00:25:12.680 So, I think a lot of people from outside, when they came here, realized, wow, this is a really nice place.

00:25:15.600 We need a slice of this, you know.

00:25:17.280 And I think that's kind of what happened, really, that they realized that they could actually do lots of things.

00:25:22.100 And also that I think it being a small country, you see this now a little bit with Australia at the moment, kind of the Petri dish idea, you know, that let's try out this experiment.

00:25:32.040 in a place where it's – which is insular, which is self-contained, which is supposed to be a small population, and see how it flies, see what are the dynamics of actually pushing it.

00:25:41.940 Yeah.

00:25:42.240 And then we'll be able to translate that into larger places and impose it.

00:25:46.000 Once we've achieved it in these smaller places, particularly a place like Ireland, which in a former – and I keep saying former, but it's true – former Catholic country, it's a really big thing if you announce suddenly that you have abortion in Ireland. 0.57

00:25:58.780 And in fact, I think that my own theory is that – that happened in May 2018, and in, I think, the end of June or also July, the US Supreme Court brought in a decision – sorry, this is in relation – no, I'm sorry, I'm mistaken, I'm talking about the gay marriage thing.

00:26:17.780 There was a connection between that. Within months in the gay marriage thing, the US Supreme Court had actually basically ordered that gay marriage be a federal right in America.

00:26:32.780 And that, I think, Ireland's capitulation to that, I think, was a significant factor in that decision, because, you know, there is that sense, well, you know, if little old Catholic Ireland is able to do it, why can't America, you know?

00:26:48.780 Right.

00:26:49.280 And I think that kind of thing is important, and that's the way these guys think.

00:26:53.780 Yeah, it's a symbolic victory, right? And then if you can get the first domino to fall, then it's just a matter of, you know, getting the other ones to follow. It's pretty crazy.

00:27:04.800 Yeah, I've seen some of this experiment in Sweden. We've seen it in Iceland, in Ireland, and Australia is just crazy now, definitely with the lockdowns and the protests we're seeing.

00:27:15.520 I mean, that's absolutely crazy. But so let's talk a bit about the COVID situation then in Ireland and how you see this. When did you?

00:27:24.100 Oh, you do. I just wanted to comment on that and just say something about that, what those pictures you're showing there.

00:27:28.440 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:28.880 I mean, that's, you know, the outcome of the gay marriage thing. You had a similar thing at the afterwards, this triumphalism.

00:27:38.380 Yeah.

00:27:38.580 I mean, even after the abortion referendum, the most extraordinary scenes, I think, in recent Irish history were, you know, in that same place, in the courtyard of Dublin Castle, where you have, like, thousands of young people cheering and toasting, in effect, the slaughter of innocents.

00:27:55.200 Yeah, it's incredible.

00:27:57.320 That's kind of what we've come to. I think that was possibly our lowest point in recent times up to the COVID episode, which we're about to go into now.

00:28:04.080 Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy when you, and of course, it's framed to, would you say, has it been a, just a little bit more before we go into the COVID thing, was it a thing in schools, indoctrinating the younger generation?

00:28:19.380 So when they are by voting age, a few generations later, they are basically liberals and they've converted the country in that sense? Or how, who is the majority that voted for this, would you say?

00:28:29.900 Oh, yeah. Well, you know, the majority is a majority. Well, it's not quite a majority of the entire population when you factor in the people who didn't vote, but it's a significant minority who have voted for this.

00:28:42.320 And you can't really make any statement about the people who don't vote because they don't vote, but I think that it was, yeah, the education system was infiltrated for decades, for sure, by feminism in the first instance. 0.92

00:28:57.260 And I mean, we had various battles in that context with, you know, the refurbishing, shall we say, of the English language syllabus, you know, the literary syllabus and so on, you know, with Charles Dickens and his ilk being kicked out and, you know, radical feminist, you know, writers from the Caribbean were being, replacing him and so on.

00:29:24.340 And I single-handedly opposed that stuff and got into a lot of hot water over it and, you know, there was lots of stuff like that.

00:29:32.840 But of course, the media, as in America, the media were really gradually at first and then very rapidly transformed ideologically by a process in Ireland of, you see, when I started as a journalist in the 1980s and, you know, I moved into the mainstream, I basically got in on my ability to write, which you wouldn't do now.

00:30:03.540 Or just my interest in the subject that I want to write about, which is rock and roll.

00:30:07.340 You wouldn't be able to do that probably now so much.

00:30:10.940 You certainly wouldn't get into the mainstream on those terms.

00:30:14.000 You would have to go to a college system and get a degree in journalism.

00:30:19.580 And when you do that, you go to a place where the lecturers are all Marxists.

00:30:23.840 Yeah, exactly.

00:30:24.620 And you come out basically a cultural Marxist.

00:30:27.760 Yeah.

00:30:28.180 I know lots of people, young people who've done that.

00:30:31.600 I won't say that it's happened to them.

00:30:32.820 It has happened to them, but they don't know that.

00:30:36.140 They've done that. 0.99

00:30:37.060 And they're absolutely insane.

00:30:39.280 And they just think that journalism is now the business of propaganda, of teaching the people how to behave correctly in a modern society.

00:30:50.280 That's what they think journalism is.

00:30:51.800 They can't write.

00:30:53.840 They can't think, most of them.

00:30:55.580 But that doesn't matter.

00:30:56.580 In fact, that suits the people who are operating this whole thing.

00:31:01.260 And in fact, that has been hugely advantageous to them in the COVID scan.

00:31:05.560 So I think it was those factors more than others which caused this.

00:31:10.760 But, I mean, essentially now you have radio and television unlistenable, unwatchable, newspapers unreadable by any sane, sentient person.

00:31:22.180 And they're not economically viable, but they're being supported now by these interests who want to promote the ideology.

00:31:29.940 And basically they're there gatekeeping to prevent anybody else moving into the space and doing the job properly.

00:31:38.180 They're bullies.

00:31:40.160 They're hall monitors. 1.00

00:31:41.460 They're snitches. 0.99

00:31:42.580 And, again, this is truly what we've seen manifesting during this time of the COVID debacle, whatever you want to call it, the pandemic.

00:31:55.480 That they're policing people.

00:31:57.540 They have become essentially just stenographers for the state agenda in some cases, in some cases the corporate agenda.

00:32:05.960 There's no investigative journalism anymore.

00:32:08.320 There's no truly digging reporters that are finding out.

00:32:11.340 There are a handful.

00:32:12.420 I'm not going to say there's zero, but, you know, very few compared to what it used to be.

00:32:16.820 It's not about holding the power accountable anymore like it used to be.

00:32:20.460 Now it's to uphold the power.

00:32:22.120 Now it's to smack down opposition and keep the lid on dissenters and things.

00:32:26.620 It's incredible to me.

00:32:28.340 Well, that's right.

00:32:28.920 That last part is exactly right.

00:32:30.340 But, I mean, I'm not – I mean, in Ireland, certainly I wouldn't – I would disagree with one thing.

00:32:34.140 I do think it's 100% rogue now, the Irish media.

00:32:39.980 Yeah.

00:32:40.080 I couldn't name you one journalist who is what's the name now.

00:32:44.100 Right.

00:32:44.860 Operation in the mainstream.

00:32:46.080 But I think that the – yeah, their functions seem to be in their own minds that they have to police the landscape in order to keep anybody from saying anything that is not in compliance with their agendas.

00:33:06.240 And then – so they invent all these ludicrous names for people who have different views.

00:33:12.340 And those – you know, so, you know, if you are a far right or you're a white supremacist, why?

00:33:17.320 Well, because you are questioning the logic of swamping your people in your country in outsiders. 0.99

00:33:25.560 Yep.

00:33:25.700 Or you also – you question the logic of imposing an untested experimental pseudo-vaccine on people, including children.

00:33:38.140 And those – you know, I don't know what those two things and issues, for example, have in common.

00:33:42.160 But they both make you far right, it seems. 0.81

00:33:44.680 Now, this is the kind of absurdity and nonsense that these people speak.

00:33:48.840 But the strange thing is that it actually, you know, by repetition has an effect.

00:33:52.660 And so you're having an inordinate conversation with somebody maybe who doesn't know you or whatever.

00:33:58.240 And, you know, and you say something that kind of tends in that direction.

00:34:02.600 Maybe you praise Donald Trump in some way.

00:34:04.460 Or, no, no, let's not say – let's not praise Donald Trump.

00:34:07.600 Let's not attack Donald Trump.

00:34:09.780 Let's be noncommittal just when his name comes up.

00:34:12.680 That's enough to have people say to you, well, that's a kind of a far right position, isn't it?

00:34:17.760 You know, it's a bit far right, isn't it?

00:34:19.820 You know, and I'm talking with ordinary people who just repeat these kind of catchwords, which they're given by the media.

00:34:26.320 The entire process, you see, we – I don't think we really – we've often bandied around these concepts like, you know, groupthink or propaganda or hypnosis, mass hypnosis, you know, mass indoctrination, brainwashing, all these phrases.

00:34:41.100 But I don't think we really – culturally, anyway – I know, obviously, there are people within the culture who do grasp these things very well.

00:34:50.040 But in general, in terms of the apprehension of the culture itself of these concepts, I think you would have to say it was very, very low.

00:34:56.600 And that we're only seeing now – it's only now when we see these things in action and we are, like, kind of trying – we're struggling to catch up, to describe what's happening, to make any kind of sense of it with words.

00:35:09.540 Because it's so crazy, you know, that actually you have a deranged population, it seems, repeating the same mantras without evidence.

00:35:20.500 Things they saw on TV, they never look around them in their – you know, they look around in the pub when somebody brings up a controversial issue.

00:35:30.340 But they never actually look around them in real life, in everyday life, and ask, well, how many people do I know who died from this virus, for example?

00:35:38.320 Or, you know, do I even know somebody who knows somebody who's died?

00:35:42.980 You know, it's quite extraordinary.

00:35:46.880 I think this has been, in a certain sense, Henrik, the most terrifying thing of this – obviously, the whole thing is terrifying in lots of ways, I think, in ways we can get into.

00:35:57.500 But possibly the most terrifying thing, if there is to be a long-term future for the world and for the human race, then the most terrifying thing – in other words, if we're going to get over this – it remains the most terrifying thing afterwards, that we have learned what they can do to the vast majority of people.

00:36:16.220 Yeah.

00:36:16.980 And how malleable and docile they are, and how obedient they are, and how they will actually carry out the most ridiculous routines, absurd routines.

00:36:27.920 And I'm actually working on a kind of an article at the moment, which I'm exploring the idea, actually, that what they've tapped into here is – you know, because we've actually talked about, obviously, hypnosis and all that kind of stuff.

00:36:41.060 And there's very strong weaponizing of the kind of the religious impulse as well and the ritualistic impulse in man as well.

00:36:47.600 But actually, one of the things I've stumbled on recently is something that actually goes underneath even all that.

00:36:53.320 And that's what – you know, the play instinct.

00:36:56.440 And there's a wonderful book written by a Dutch man called Johan, I think, Huizinga, back in 1938.

00:37:06.920 And he talked about how fundamental the play instinct is to humanity and to civilization.

00:37:13.140 And when you read it, you realize that actually it's not impossible that actually somebody read this book and thought, if we could actually weaponize this instinct, we could get people to do crazy things.

00:37:23.580 Within the time and space of the game, which they wouldn't do otherwise, and which make no sense outside of it, but they won't notice.

00:37:34.360 Because the rules are the rules are the rules.

00:37:36.160 You know, if you're playing a game, you don't get into a philosophical argument with the other players about whether the particular rule is good, bad, or indifferent.

00:37:44.480 You say, well, what is the rule?

00:37:45.620 Okay.

00:37:46.120 So it's – yeah, you can play two cards now and three later.

00:37:50.360 Okay.

00:37:51.020 I won't play three now.

00:37:52.180 Why shouldn't I play three?

00:37:53.100 No, no, I won't argue about that.

00:37:55.440 And that's what they're doing essentially with COVID.

00:37:58.200 People just say, well, what's the rule?

00:37:59.960 Oh, you can only wear your mask when you are sitting down at your dinner table.

00:38:06.980 As soon as you stand up, you have to wear the mask.

00:38:10.080 Okay.

00:38:10.600 All right.

00:38:11.000 Okay.

00:38:11.260 That's fine.

00:38:11.640 And so on, you know.

00:38:13.380 Or you can only have a – you can only go into a pub and have a drink if you buy a meal that costs no less than nine,

00:38:23.100 euros.

00:38:25.480 Was that an actual thing?

00:38:27.440 Was that an actual thing?

00:38:28.980 Could I just say eight, nine?

00:38:30.460 No, no.

00:38:31.000 It has to be nine.

00:38:31.820 Okay.

00:38:32.220 Okay.

00:38:32.560 Got that.

00:38:32.980 That's fine.

00:38:33.440 That's fine.

00:38:34.440 You know, like this is the absurdity that we read.

00:38:37.440 And that is a game logic.

00:38:39.200 It's a play logic.

00:38:41.000 And it's very – so I'm exploring that.

00:38:42.340 I'm trying to think it through and apply Husinga's thesis to the COVID thing.

00:38:47.860 And it's a very interesting exercise.

00:38:50.140 So I hope to wrap that up on my site in the next few days, you know.

00:38:54.040 Yeah.

00:38:54.900 But that's – so it's a very bizarre kind of thing.

00:38:58.120 I don't think – I actually think that, you know, we – I've read a lot of stuff.

00:39:02.600 I've listened to lots of things.

00:39:03.480 Lots of brilliant people out there talking about this and writing about it.

00:39:06.360 But I don't think any of us have actually got to the heart of it.

00:39:12.080 It's such a shocking episode.

00:39:14.380 And it's so unprecedented and so unpredictable and so terrifying in its implications.

00:39:22.860 And in the imagination, the specters of the kind of evildoers that you have to summon up

00:39:28.380 in order to even just try to comprehend what's going on, that actually I think we're on the point.

00:39:34.900 I think – I saw a video online there by a psychologist called Richard Grannon there about – he's an English guy – about a month ago.

00:39:46.960 And he was talking about the whole concept of depression in the context of COVID.

00:39:54.180 And he said that actually now he believed that the world population was on the point of going into shock.

00:40:00.060 Yeah.

00:40:00.500 In terms – furthering on from the depression, that the depression had become so bedded down that the next stage is kind of psychic shock.

00:40:10.620 And I think that's exactly right.

00:40:12.200 And I'm beginning to see that effect not just in the world but in a certain sense in myself.

00:40:18.220 Because there's nowhere else to go in exploring it.

00:40:22.500 We seem to have run out of words.

00:40:24.660 And we seem to have run out of concepts by which to kind of go deeper in, in the hope that we might comprehend something.

00:40:32.300 But I think maybe the block there is – and certainly it is for me, and I'm aware of this very strongly, Henry – that I don't actually imaginatively have the capacity to grasp true evil.

00:40:46.860 I really don't.

00:40:48.760 And I think that's a big block.

00:40:50.020 Because I'm always holding back.

00:40:53.020 When people talk about culling or, you know, depopulation, I say, well, in theory, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can get all that.

00:40:59.460 I hear what people say.

00:41:00.420 I see all the facts.

00:41:01.340 I see – but, yeah, but really, I'm holding back inside myself.

00:41:07.360 I mean, I could actually tell you about, you know, what Bill Gates has said and what his connections are and Boris Johnson's father and all this stuff, you know.

00:41:16.040 But there's a part of my brain that will never believe that until it actually comes knocking on my door.

00:41:25.420 You know what I mean?

00:41:25.880 Yeah.

00:41:26.220 No, I know for me.

00:41:26.820 Because we lived through this beautiful period of peace and, you know, tranquility and beautiful ideas.

00:41:34.840 You know, everybody had beautiful ideas.

00:41:37.100 You know, the people I moved among, you know, the rock musicians and the journalists.

00:41:41.760 And, like, it was just axiomatic that you were opposed to stuff like this if it happens in a far-flung country, obviously.

00:41:51.280 But, I mean, I was down in the west of Ireland at the weekend and I was in a town that I've been in many times, a town called Clifton.

00:41:58.620 And there's an art – the oldest art festival in Ireland goes from there.

00:42:02.720 You know, it's probably something like 44, 45 years old now.

00:42:06.480 And it's the longest running.

00:42:09.400 I don't think it's ever missed a year.

00:42:11.320 And I used to, when my wasn't cancelled and when I was still a respectable journalist, I used to get invited there, get a writer.

00:42:19.060 I used to do plays and I got to speak in there lots of times.

00:42:21.600 But I looked at the program when I was in the vicinity and, you know, all these artists, all of whom I know are musicians and novelists and so on.

00:42:31.800 They're people I know.

00:42:33.320 And at the bottom of their posters, it says, you know, only people who have been fully vaccinated and have a vaccination certificate will be admitted.

00:42:43.660 You know, like, I just – so was it all for nothing?

00:42:47.380 All this talk was for nothing.

00:42:48.900 All the things we supposed – we presumed that they believed in.

00:42:53.000 It was all nonsense.

00:42:54.820 It was all break.

00:42:56.360 And, I mean, this is – I can't believe – and, I mean, I've had that with all kinds of – in all kinds of contexts.

00:43:01.120 You know, I mean, I've heard of – I won't mention her name, but I found out in the last few days that somebody I knew very well about 10 years ago in that particular context is now the Minister for Justice in a particular European country,

00:43:17.020 signing into law fascistic diktats on a – basically on a daily basis.

00:43:21.060 She was a gentle, kind-hearted, Catholic woman.

00:43:27.400 I don't comprehend it.

00:43:30.160 I floundered before it, you know.

00:43:32.900 I just don't have any equipment to grasp it.

00:43:36.220 And I think that's because I don't understand evil.

00:43:38.240 But, obviously, they're doing this because they're saving – they're saving humanity.

00:43:43.880 They're helping people.

00:43:45.200 We're stopping a disease, right?

00:43:48.060 It's still – as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, right?

00:43:52.460 Isn't that what we're looking at here?

00:43:53.700 I think there are some – don't get me wrong.

00:43:55.460 There are some people at the very top.

00:43:56.780 I think there are people that know.

00:43:58.120 I think some people have looked at the actual data.

00:44:00.700 They see that the vaccine is causing variants.

00:44:02.840 They're seeing that more people are getting jabbed and they're getting sick.

00:44:05.820 It doesn't protect them.

00:44:06.900 They're covering up, for the most part, a lot of the adverse effects.

00:44:10.560 People are getting killed and this kind of stuff.

00:44:12.200 But the managerial class underneath the very top elite, they're doing this because they're helping and saving everybody, right?

00:44:20.600 I think that's worn a bit 10 a long time since.

00:44:24.360 I mean, I think to begin with, you would actually have to say now.

00:44:28.000 You have to change that saying about the road to hell.

00:44:31.220 You would have to have to say something like, the road to good intentions is paved with hell.

00:44:35.820 Because that's how we're discovering.

00:44:39.080 Right, yeah.

00:44:40.760 Look at Australia right now.

00:44:42.500 Yeah.

00:44:42.860 Like, does anybody tell me seriously that those police officers who are kicking people half to death on the street are actually doing it because they want to protect the health of the public?

00:44:53.500 No.

00:44:53.980 You know what I mean?

00:44:54.560 Like, it's long gone.

00:44:56.000 That fiction is only shared now at the lower levels of intelligence.

00:45:01.180 And I mean, what I would say, among the public to an extent and among journalists to a lesser extent.

00:45:08.060 Most of them now know that this is a complete scam.

00:45:11.700 They cannot but know it.

00:45:12.960 And look, briefly, what happened here, in my estimation, I don't any longer believe.

00:45:20.580 I did briefly believe in the idea of the virus.

00:45:23.320 I don't any longer believe there is a virus.

00:45:25.100 As such, I believe that there is a vaccine and that the vaccine is, in a certain sense, the virus.

00:45:34.540 That was the intention from the very beginning.

00:45:36.960 Yeah.

00:45:37.600 The vaccine is the bioweapon.

00:45:39.780 That's the instrument that came out of Wuhan and Canada and the United States.

00:45:43.620 Those three countries were in partnership to formulate, to develop this instrument.

00:45:50.520 Now, the vaccine was, or the virus was constructed post hoc.

00:45:56.140 And there's a very interesting guy called David E. Martin, who has talked about this, investigated this.

00:46:03.020 And he's discovered that the genome of the virus is a combination of those of the much older viruses, going back 20 years and more.

00:46:20.400 Yeah.

00:46:21.060 Very brilliant guy.

00:46:22.160 Very interesting.

00:46:23.100 And so I think that, therefore, what's actually, but what's happening now, it's very interesting.

00:46:29.280 I think there was no virus in the beginning.

00:46:32.420 This is interesting.

00:46:33.580 But what they did was that by a succession of instruments, they managed to dispose prematurely of a great, huge number of elderly people.

00:46:42.800 Now, if people find that hard to believe, and I would have in the beginning, but now that I've looked at it, I do believe that it is true. 0.98

00:46:49.680 And I think the ethic there, if you want to call it that, the anti-ethic, you know, is related to the idea that, well, you know, in order to kind of expedite,

00:46:59.680 if somebody's in pain or distress and they're coming close to death, it's not, there's nothing wrong with giving them a morphine shot to hurry them on their way.

00:47:09.980 And, you know, it's, it's in the best, it's the best for them in the long run.

00:47:13.900 That's, I think that idea is now expanding whereby, whereas once it was a matter of hours, then it became days, then weeks.

00:47:22.440 And now it can be a matter of months or even a couple of years.

00:47:25.860 And I think that that ethic, anti-ethic, very much was applied during March, April into May of 2020.

00:47:33.940 There's a wonderful scientist, a Canadian guy called Denis Rancourt, who's done a brilliant analysis of all this.

00:47:42.040 And he identifies stress as being the primary factor in people's deaths at that point.

00:47:48.060 But I would add two or three more.

00:47:50.660 I think that's inappropriate intubation of elderly people. 0.74

00:47:55.340 Yeah.

00:47:55.820 It's only one.

00:47:56.820 Loneliness, which would be related to stress, is another.

00:47:59.080 But I think midazolam and other, other sedatives were used with abundant, with abundance.

00:48:06.600 Certainly we saw this in the United Kingdom, where the consumption of those drugs shot up in April 2020 by something like 135%.

00:48:15.640 So essentially, they got their statistics.

00:48:21.000 They got their death toll in that way.

00:48:24.680 And that got them through 2020.

00:48:26.860 Because remember, John, remember all the hospitals, the people going to the hospitals to, right?

00:48:31.100 That's worth mentioning.

00:48:32.040 Like, we had nurses doing dance videos on TikTok, right?

00:48:36.300 And choreographed dance videos.

00:48:38.240 We saw them coming out.

00:48:39.260 And where are all the patients, right?

00:48:40.740 And again, maybe there were some hospitals somewhere and they were dealing with something.

00:48:45.200 I can't rule all of that out.

00:48:46.880 But many of the videos that we saw at that time in 2020 was like, they're trying to claim that there's bodies piling up everywhere.

00:48:52.660 And people went to these hospitals and they were empty.

00:48:54.660 I saw footage of this in Ireland.

00:48:56.200 I saw it in the UK.

00:48:57.340 I saw it in the US.

00:48:58.340 All over the place.

00:48:59.980 Myself and some colleagues of mine went into hospitals and photographed, videoed.

00:49:04.720 And they were absolutely empty.

00:49:06.440 You know, and they were being told by the government that they were absolutely jammed.

00:49:09.500 Yeah.

00:49:09.820 You know.

00:49:11.560 It's interesting.

00:49:12.180 I mean, yeah, there are different kind of theories.

00:49:17.220 I mean, Denis Rancourt believes, and a lot of people have said this, and I think this is kind of right, that what they've done is, because there was no virus, what they've done is they've weaponized a lot of existing viruses.

00:49:28.740 Now, we all know there are viruses going around the place all the time.

00:49:32.920 I mean, I've had viruses.

00:49:34.160 I mean, I had a very bad one about two years ago.

00:49:35.880 And if I'd had it a year later, it made me deaf and it kind of paralyzed half my face and so on.

00:49:41.600 So I would have been some kind of hero if it happened to me in 2020.

00:49:44.880 I'd be the guy that got, you know, went deaf from the COVID and half the country would be going around wearing earmuffs, you know.

00:49:52.280 Like, that's kind of, you know, like sickness is like they're trying to tell us that sickness shouldn't exist.

00:50:00.440 Exactly.

00:50:00.920 That death has been abolished, you know.

00:50:02.640 And I mean, of course, death is terrible in a certain sense and can be extraordinarily sad in lots of circumstances and in most circumstances.

00:50:08.880 But it does happen and I've got really bad news for these guys.

00:50:12.600 It's going to happen to us all, you know.

00:50:15.020 So, like, but the, so what they've done is they weaponized all of these other conditions.

00:50:21.380 Now, I think what's happening is very sinister indeed.

00:50:24.880 And you have to say that this cannot be random.

00:50:27.820 It cannot be accidental.

00:50:30.020 That because of the lockdown policies, which have separated people and prevented them interacting in the ways that they would naturalistically do,

00:50:37.540 which is essential to the kind of development and strengthening of the human immune system.

00:50:44.760 You know, that you mix with other people, you shake hands with them, you get germs, you get like, you know, sneezy stuff or sniffly stuff.

00:50:52.840 Or maybe once in a while you get an outbreak of a real flu or something like that.

00:50:56.400 But by getting that, you strengthen your immune system, right?

00:51:00.820 And that's the way we are.

00:51:02.340 We get sick in order to stay well.

00:51:03.980 That's the paradox of our humanity or one of the many paradoxes of our humanity.

00:51:08.920 So, now what they've done by doing, they've actually depleted the immune systems of the world because they've kept us separate two meters apart for a year and a half.

00:51:17.820 I mean, none of that is happening.

00:51:19.780 Now, I've had a personal experience in the last month because I got a kind of a, I call it a flu, about a month ago, which wasn't as a flu very severe.

00:51:29.040 I mean, there was a cough, there was sinus stuff, there was, you know, pains and aches, all that headache on that, you know.

00:51:37.320 Most of that went within three to four days.

00:51:40.660 But I was left with a kind of a hangover that went on for another three weeks of really kind of pains, tired, like I'd been beaten up, like I'd been kicked by a bunch of nightclub monsters, you know.

00:51:51.680 That was the feeling I had and I couldn't shift it.

00:51:56.140 Now, I think that that's actually what those guys, the scientists and doctors who were warning us about the effects of lockdown were talking about.

00:52:02.820 That two things happen when you create those kind of conditions.

00:52:06.220 One is, as I said, that the weakening of the immune system.

00:52:08.740 But the other is the strengthening of the bugs.

00:52:10.680 So, you create superbugs of what were previously ordinary bugs.

00:52:15.020 So, when people get them, they have a much more profound effect than they would have had two years ago.

00:52:20.740 And I think that that combined then with the vaccine, which is another module of this, is going to make this a very bleak winter indeed for an awful lot of people.

00:52:31.260 The vaccines, they're killing a lot of people and the corrupt media are refusing to report it.

00:52:39.300 That's a given.

00:52:40.300 I mean, everywhere I go now.

00:52:42.220 I mean, this is the interesting thing, Enric.

00:52:44.380 I mean, I didn't know anybody who died from COVID.

00:52:48.900 I don't know anybody.

00:52:49.740 Nobody that I knew directly died from COVID.

00:52:52.480 I've heard about people dying from COVID.

00:52:54.420 I don't know that I believe it because, you know, for the reasons I've said.

00:52:59.440 But, you know, I said at the very beginning, within weeks, it's occurred to me, you know, that, well, look, what would the pandemic look like on your street?

00:53:08.500 Well, there'd be a woman dying in a room on the third floor of the building across the street. 0.98

00:53:14.000 There'd be an ambulance coming up one way.

00:53:16.940 There'd be a hearse coming down the other way.

00:53:19.760 There'd be people being stretchered out.

00:53:21.600 There might be a person collapsed on the roadway.

00:53:24.920 Yeah.

00:53:25.000 That's a pandemic, right?

00:53:27.200 Exactly.

00:53:28.180 There's nothing like that.

00:53:29.260 But here's the interesting thing, that now I'm beginning to actually run into situations where people are dying in inexplicable circumstances.

00:53:37.020 In numbers that are previous, that do not correspond to the rates of, you know, natural sudden death, what do you say?

00:53:46.080 Like, I grew up in a town of 2,000 people.

00:53:48.360 And that's a really good laboratory setting to know about death because you know everybody of those 2,000 people.

00:53:55.360 And every week in particular wintertime there are maybe two or three funerals, maybe one in summertime in a week.

00:54:05.780 And so you get to have a sense of the rhythm of death, as it were, in such a community.

00:54:12.160 And, you know, you know that in February, January, February, a good number of older people die every year.

00:54:20.620 You know that over the period of a year, two or three, in that number of a population, two, three, four people, maybe, will die very suddenly, inexplicably.

00:54:33.300 And shock everybody, even young people.

00:54:38.440 For reasons to do, it hurts you, all illnesses, whatever.

00:54:42.160 And so on.

00:54:43.640 So, like, we're now in a situation where it's now happening in a way that is registering with me through, you know, friends of mine, their relations.

00:54:57.040 Or, you know, I was in a hotel last weekend and a man just dropped dead getting out of his car.

00:55:02.900 There are stories of, you know, car accidents, mysterious car accidents where cars are suddenly running off the road.

00:55:10.400 Because the owner has had, the driver has had a heart attack.

00:55:17.560 Multiple pileups, multiple car pileups arising from the same factor.

00:55:21.140 But the media here in Ireland, and I think elsewhere, are completely turning the other way from all this.

00:55:28.100 You know, now we know that in the last time, I think it was in 76, there was the first swine flu epidemic.

00:55:35.100 There was a vaccine launch.

00:55:37.380 And when it reached, I think, 43 deaths, the American government cancelled it.

00:55:41.920 They said, no, no, no more.

00:55:44.020 Right, exactly.

00:55:45.000 Yep.

00:55:45.360 Now, we're up at the last count that I saw on September the 11th, something close to 25,000 deaths in the European Union alone.

00:55:52.120 I think it's well above that.

00:55:53.560 It's heading for 100,000 in the United States.

00:55:55.660 Yeah, yep.

00:55:56.200 And still, the media just ignored it.

00:56:00.840 And in fact, what they're actually trying to do is insinuate that these are actually unvaccinated people dying.

00:56:05.200 I don't know about you, but apparently there's a law.

00:56:07.200 I don't know if this is only in Ireland.

00:56:09.020 But there's a rule that if you have the vaccine and you die within 14 days, then you're treated as if you haven't had the vaccine.

00:56:18.240 That's right.

00:56:18.700 They keep moving the goalposts.

00:56:20.480 This is what they're doing.

00:56:21.180 Look at Israel, for example.

00:56:22.680 Now, it's booster shots, right?

00:56:23.940 So soon enough, if you haven't gotten the third shot, you won't be considered fully vaccinated.

00:56:29.040 So statistically, you will be unvaccinated.

00:56:31.520 Maybe you just got the one shot, right?

00:56:33.740 Or maybe within the 14 days of getting the second shot.

00:56:37.260 But all of this is still predicated on nurses and doctors and so forth reporting these kinds of things.

00:56:43.400 Apparently, I'm not sure if you saw some of the Project Veritas stuff coming out yesterday, I think it was, right?

00:56:48.820 Where you see some of these hospitals now are basically they're covering up at least the side effects.

00:56:53.360 They're saying that, you know, one boy experienced myocarditis, for example, the heart inflammation of the heart muscle and stuff like that.

00:56:59.500 And they won't really they won't talk about this, that they're sweeping it under the rug, which is not a big surprise to me.

00:57:05.040 But the world is finding out, you know.

00:57:06.980 Well, yeah, I find it, I am surprised by it, really.

00:57:15.960 I'm quite shocked by it because it seemed to me that, you know, in regards of ideology, journalism still refers to facts.

00:57:25.880 That there was a place in journalism for reporting the facts.

00:57:28.720 Whatever you made of them, aside from that, in commentary or analysis, you reported them anyway.

00:57:35.760 And let the pieces fall where they may.

00:57:38.400 You know, that was the ethic.

00:57:40.540 And I'm quite shocked that that's gone.

00:57:42.760 Because it seems to me that that means that the media should entirely just stop, fold up its paraphernalia and leave.

00:57:51.000 Right. Yeah.

00:57:52.620 And let others come in and do the job that they're refusing to do, because essentially they're they're they're on strike.

00:57:57.880 Yeah.

00:57:58.060 They're not functioning as journalists anymore.

00:58:00.380 They're actually functioning as anti-journalists.

00:58:03.100 And and I think that this is disastrous.

00:58:07.880 We've seen it under all kinds of headings in the last few years, of course, Trump and Biden and whatnot.

00:58:13.560 But this is life and death.

00:58:17.120 Yeah.

00:58:17.680 You know, and it's quite shocking to me, regardless of how cynical I am of journalism.

00:58:24.060 And I am very cynical.

00:58:26.640 But I each day I hear some new outrage and I'm flabbergasted once again.

00:58:32.900 Yeah.

00:58:33.360 I was showing a map here of the mutations of the virus.

00:58:37.020 Let me see if I can find that again.

00:58:38.040 I had it up here.

00:58:38.880 But it is interesting that we have seen a the things that you would expect to see in 2020 if that story was true or are things that we're now beginning to see in 2021.

00:58:51.840 Right.

00:58:51.980 And here's a here's a genomic sequencing map on the left hand side here in this image that shows you just how many variants was.

00:59:00.120 And it was actually a doctor, forget her name, Rose, I think something, Jacqueline Rose or something, who was part of the FDA or was it the CDC hearing on booster shots?

00:59:11.820 And she actually managed to present some of this.

00:59:13.520 And she she said that she believed that the primary driver of these new variants is the vaccine.

00:59:19.980 And another thing that happens here is that you're creating a kind of an artificial evolutionary pressure on this virus, whatever it is, what if this virus, what, you know, we can debate what we define this or whatever.

00:59:32.340 But but something is out there.

00:59:34.000 Maybe something is causing this.

00:59:35.520 Right.

00:59:35.700 If you look at the stuff that David Martin, for example, talks about, I mean, he found patent stuff going back almost 10 years, I believe, where companies have patented certain things that they've kind of spliced together.

00:59:48.760 I mean, and that even came out in the FOIA request of that.

00:59:52.660 The intercepted right.

00:59:53.880 Dr. Fauci denied and was sitting in line in front of Congress saying, no, we didn't we didn't work on gain of function.

00:59:59.400 And then it comes out.

01:00:00.240 Well, these were they said that they're working on chimeric viruses.

01:00:03.120 Right.

01:00:03.780 So it is something.

01:00:05.780 And it was almost that it was I don't know how sinister or how planned all of this was.

01:00:11.700 But but just looking at it for now, at least, it almost feels like they released something or maybe it was accidental.

01:00:17.480 I can't prove that yet, but it was released.

01:00:20.940 We got out there regardless of what it was.

01:00:23.980 And then the the plan of this was to get an evolutionary driver to to make the virus worse and worse and worse.

01:00:32.540 It wasn't at all that bad in the beginning.

01:00:34.720 Right. It was driven, again, as I said at the start of this interview, by a faulty or a RT PCR test, which was way too sensitive.

01:00:43.200 It was running on way too many cycle thresholds, which causes, you know, a can of pain tested positive, a mango tested positive, a goat tested like all these things that that, you know, I think it was Tanzania or something that did some of these experiments on some of them.

01:00:56.820 Look what happened to that guy.

01:00:59.040 Exactly. Right. He was taken out. Right. So exactly.

01:01:02.860 So now it seems to be that maybe that was the plan from the beginning.

01:01:06.900 I don't know. But regardless, it is the back.

01:01:09.680 That's why I think you're correct when you say the vaccine is the virus, John.

01:01:13.460 That's what we're looking at right now.

01:01:14.780 Yeah, yeah. I think you see the story of the Wuhan lab leak is interesting.

01:01:21.780 And if you just briefly touch on it, I mean, it was Trump who first started talking about that.

01:01:25.740 But he was really talking about in the context, well, it's a Chinese virus.

01:01:29.580 You know, and that was his main that was the extent of his of his claim, really.

01:01:34.060 And at that point, there was no reason to dispute that from our particular point of view.

01:01:37.620 But when the story resurfaced this year, it resurfaced in the mainstream media.

01:01:44.880 And that's got to be suspicious.

01:01:47.800 You know, it was newspapers like The New York Times who are suddenly reporting this possibility.

01:01:53.540 Now, it's very interesting that there's nothing like Fauci, despite the fact that that story points a finger at Fauci, he's still there.

01:02:00.500 Exactly. Yeah.

01:02:01.660 So I don't trust that story at all.

01:02:03.780 I think that actually Martin, David Martin, is correct.

01:02:07.900 Putting the pieces together in the most coherent way, I think, leads to the conclusion that Martin is correct, that there was no actual novel virus, but that there was a novel vaccine.

01:02:21.720 And the novel vaccine was, as it were, the whole point of the exercise.

01:02:25.600 Now, I have been watching this for a long time, for, you know, the duration, and for well over, for coming up in a year now, I've been hearing these, what at first seem to be highly alarmist voices, warning about the consequences of this vaccine, this pseudo vaccine.

01:02:44.140 I'm talking about people like Geert van der Bosch, Mike Eden, Sutra at Bhakti, and these guys.

01:02:52.660 And now, again, it's a part of me that refuses, in a certain sense, to follow my head.

01:03:00.620 I can't believe, I can't accept.

01:03:02.800 It terrifies me.

01:03:03.820 In no sense, whatever, would I want what these guys have warned about, would I want it to happen.

01:03:11.500 I don't want vindication.

01:03:13.240 I certainly don't want that kind of vindication.

01:03:16.700 But, unfortunately, so far, the evidence is leaning in their direction.

01:03:24.660 Yeah, it is.

01:03:25.200 You know, because it would only take a gradual acceleration of the death rate over the coming winter to bring about something very close to what they have described, which is catastrophic.

01:03:37.560 Yeah.

01:03:37.680 Which is beyond imagination.

01:03:39.520 Yeah.

01:03:39.700 I won't go through it.

01:03:40.580 It's too terrifying and horrific.

01:03:44.080 And I don't care who the people are that might suffer those.

01:03:47.980 I don't care what their ideology is.

01:03:50.120 I don't care what their belief system is.

01:03:51.800 I do not want that to happen to people.

01:03:54.020 But, my God, I don't know if it can be stopped.

01:03:58.320 That's what the evidence is telling me, that it can't be stopped now.

01:04:03.760 And that's an awful situation for the world to be in.

01:04:07.480 And so it's not a question of us deciding how we're going to cope, you know, with the tyrannies of the government for the next six months or, you know, the attitude to the unvaccinated or all this.

01:04:20.580 This is all going to be irrelevant in the face of this absolute carnage that appears to be imminent.

01:04:27.920 Yeah.

01:04:28.300 All right.

01:04:28.860 From what these very sensible, very solid, very consistent voices have been saying for nearly a year.

01:04:35.120 Yeah.

01:04:36.000 And then you have, you know, the issue of, and it's kind of part of the same, you know, family of problems, if you will, of so-called leaky vaccines.

01:04:46.280 You have the auto, I always forget what it stands for, A-D-E, right?

01:04:53.960 Auto Antibody Dependent Enhancement.

01:04:56.640 That's what it stands for, right?

01:04:57.960 Where basically your immune system gets, you know, compromised.

01:05:02.500 Even Fauci talked about this.

01:05:03.600 I remember I played the click many times early in the pandemic, is that you don't want to, you know, the worst case scenario, Fauci said, is to vaccinate against something.

01:05:12.540 And it actually turns out that it makes the illness much worse and things like this, right?

01:05:16.020 And this seems to be where this is going, that there's so many different issues, right?

01:05:21.880 You have the myocarditis issue.

01:05:23.920 You have the blood clot issue.

01:05:25.360 You have the A-D-E, the auto body dependent enhancement issue.

01:05:28.920 You have, what else do we have, John?

01:05:32.240 What other things are compounding here?

01:05:33.960 It's a deficiency issue, you know, that we have basically collapsed the immune systems of the entire planet.

01:05:41.040 Yeah, yeah, that's right.

01:05:41.920 Exactly.

01:05:42.580 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:43.600 No, that's shocking at every level.

01:05:47.480 Now, what's even more shocking is the possibility that it's all a plan.

01:05:51.060 And that's where people like Mike Eden are absolutely tear unequivocally.

01:05:55.100 Yeah.

01:05:55.240 They believe it is a plan.

01:05:56.060 Yeah, and he was, he was ex, was it AstraZeneca or was it Pfizer, Eden?

01:06:03.220 Pfizer.

01:06:03.660 Pfizer.

01:06:04.220 He was, yes, deputy director of Pfizer.

01:06:08.100 And much of this is, again, and to emphasize that point that you've said many times, but this is in cahoots with the media.

01:06:15.800 The entire establishment are covering this up.

01:06:18.920 They're denying it, right?

01:06:20.040 I showed something just yesterday.

01:06:21.780 It was some fact-checking thing.

01:06:23.380 I guess I could pull it up here in a moment, but it was like, there's no, here it is right here.

01:06:27.660 There's no evidence, no evidence of COVID-19 vaccines causing death.

01:06:33.080 This is PolitiFact Poynter Institute.

01:06:35.900 And I believe it was the Poynter Institute.

01:06:37.600 I could be wrong on this, but many of the fact-checkers that's come out, they are, they get funding from Johnson & Johnson.

01:06:44.100 I think there's other big pharma companies involved in this too, by the way, but that's how crazy this is.

01:06:49.780 They're just flat-out denying it, John.

01:06:51.700 Nothing happens here.

01:06:53.340 Well, in Ireland, it's quite staggering because what they're actually doing is instead of covering the stories when somebody dies and there's a question mark over this death,

01:07:01.840 a young person, you know, we've had this several times in the last few weeks, very young person, suddenly, instead of actually pursuing the story, right or wrong, you know, true or untrue, whatever, find out.

01:07:16.780 And then say, okay, either all clear or, you know, we've got a question still here or whatever.

01:07:20.840 However, they immediately go to attack what they call the anti-vaxxers.

01:07:26.520 Now, the anti-vaxxers don't exist, by and large, in that sense, because in this particular case, there's a particular attitude, you know, there's a particular situation.

01:07:36.860 Many people who are not in any way opposed to vaccination in principle, and in fact, I don't know if there's anybody who's absolutely opposed.

01:07:45.420 There probably are, but not that many.

01:07:46.880 But this is a particular thing with particular reasons, particular factors, which are, you know, set out, syriatum, by all of us in the argument.

01:08:00.140 And this is ignored.

01:08:01.460 Yeah.

01:08:01.980 And we're simply anti-vaxxers.

01:08:03.860 And these guys call themselves journalists, and they seek to demonize this.

01:08:07.620 This is, of course, a primary symptom of the groupthink phenomenon.

01:08:12.060 And I wrote a series of articles about this not long ago.

01:08:15.000 So, but this initially groupthink, you know, was identified in meetings and in decision makers, but it noticed certain patterns.

01:08:23.100 And one of the patterns was that the group, once it decides that on a decision, on a course of action, however erroneous or wrongheaded, defends this to the death.

01:08:32.380 And immediately starts to find an out-group, which it can oppose.

01:08:38.140 And that's what's going on here.

01:08:39.700 It's actually classic.

01:08:41.040 You know, they're actually carrying out the script to the letter.

01:08:45.240 That they're actually seeking to demonize and scapegoat people so as to distract from the actual issue and put out this idea that the only possible reason for raising issues, questions about the vaccines is because you're far right or you're anti-vax or you're a white supremacist or some such gibberish.

01:09:03.840 And these people still call themselves journalists.

01:09:06.940 Like, it's staggering.

01:09:08.580 It's utterly unbelievable.

01:09:09.880 Look at this one.

01:09:10.460 Here's one of the preeminent.

01:09:12.020 I tweeted this out the other day.

01:09:13.360 And I said, and there it is, finally.

01:09:15.120 I don't know if you know what Godwin's Law is, right, or Goodwin's Law.

01:09:18.060 It's this invocation of Hitler. 0.56

01:09:20.600 I mean, who's the, you know, who's most like Hitler or whatever. 0.91

01:09:23.140 But this is from the Jacobin magazine here.

01:09:25.920 They said, do you know who else opposed vaccine mandates?

01:09:30.420 Hitler. 0.57

01:09:30.780 Hitler. 0.57

01:09:32.520 You know, it's always like the peak thing.

01:09:35.120 It's always like if you just can smear the other side enough that they're the Nazis here in the equation, then maybe they will fold to you.

01:09:42.340 Maybe they will, you know, submit, essentially, because that's what it is, right?

01:09:45.860 It's a shaming campaign to get people to obey, essentially.

01:09:50.380 Well, you see, I think that under the influence of mass hypnosis and all that, it does work.

01:09:55.280 This is the staggering thing about it.

01:09:56.680 Like, people do.

01:09:57.480 Because people just repeat mantras, you know?

01:09:59.320 Yeah.

01:09:59.500 And they actually say, well, that would be kind of a very far right kind of position.

01:10:03.640 Or, you know, one of the great questions is, like, when you say something to Hitler, where are you finding that?

01:10:11.300 Where are you digging that out of?

01:10:12.800 You know, when you start to tell people a fact.

01:10:15.160 Yeah, what's the source for that?

01:10:16.600 Who said that?

01:10:18.340 Now they're questioning sources all of a sudden.

01:10:20.860 Yeah.

01:10:21.420 Where are you getting that, you know?

01:10:23.100 And that's kind of like, where are you coming from?

01:10:24.960 You know, like, this is a completely distorted and fundamentally dysfunctional manner of discourse.

01:10:35.340 Yeah.

01:10:37.060 But it's very worrying.

01:10:38.460 And, you know, I mean, look, we talk about the future as if it was granted and given.

01:10:42.860 But, you know, if there is a future, if there is a future, we're going to have to sort all this stuff out from the very, very basic root of everything.

01:10:50.800 You said something really good, and I forget, it was someone pulling it out, I think, from an interview, you said, if we get through this, if we end up coming out of this thing on the other end, still alive, still, you know, some semblance of even civilization at the end of this, because who knows how bad this is going to get, right?

01:11:08.920 Every single institution will have to be dismantled.

01:11:12.380 And everything that we relied on that took us here is going to need to be leveled by the ground, essentially, right?

01:11:19.520 I firmly believe that, Henrik.

01:11:21.780 I think that starting with the democratic structures, I mean, they don't work.

01:11:27.920 They don't.

01:11:29.200 They just don't work.

01:11:29.880 I mean, the American system doesn't work.

01:11:31.320 The Irish system doesn't work.

01:11:32.700 So we need to actually raise it to the ground and build again.

01:11:36.300 Yeah.

01:11:38.140 Media, similarly.

01:11:39.100 I mean, I think symbolically, like, the media are so complicit in all this that, you know, they need to be treated at the end, when this comes to some kind of culmination, something like, you know,

01:11:48.980 serial killers or something like that.

01:11:50.640 I mean, in the sense that their houses, their dwelling places need to be demolished, you know, and that they no longer are allowed to function as journalists in any way.

01:12:00.780 And anybody who has worked in the media in this period should be barred for life from ever, you know, masquerading again as a journalist, to say the least of it.

01:12:09.920 And that same goes to the judiciaries who have supported all of this on the bench.

01:12:17.120 It goes to police forces.

01:12:18.420 I mean, I don't know what.

01:12:19.160 I mean, I'm not a fan of, you know, what's the policy they call there?

01:12:24.080 The Antifa people, you know.

01:12:26.060 Defunding the police.

01:12:28.240 Decommissioning, defunding the police.

01:12:29.700 I don't think that's an answer.

01:12:31.020 But because, I mean, there's a mix.

01:12:32.440 I think American, you know, there's a mix of polices.

01:12:34.580 But in Ireland, our police force is completely unfit for purpose.

01:12:38.800 There's no way that anybody, any serious sentient person can respect any member of that force again, in my opinion.

01:12:47.320 You know, and, you know, under all kinds of headings, you know, the medicals.

01:12:50.840 I mean, I would be terrified now if I thought I had to go into a hospital.

01:12:55.900 They're killing you in the hospitals.

01:12:57.200 The protocol they have there.

01:12:58.460 I'm showing some footage.

01:12:59.560 This is from Australia.

01:13:00.360 You mentioned this earlier.

01:13:01.100 They were stomping the head of a, I think it was what it was like, he had mental issues or some on top of it or something, too.

01:13:09.120 But they put you on a ventilator.

01:13:12.020 And I'm not sure how the situation in Ireland, maybe you know more about that or in other European countries.

01:13:16.380 But in America, there was a financial incentive by the hospitals to put you on a ventilator as some hospitals got as much, what was it, as much as $15,000 per patient or something?

01:13:26.460 Yeah, well, I mean, they situate this, what they call the COVID protocol.

01:13:32.260 And if you go on that, on the ventilator, you eventually have, I think, something like a 50-50 chance of coming out.

01:13:39.880 Yeah.

01:13:40.200 Whereas in other general, you would have a 70-odd percent chance of coming out.

01:13:44.920 But, okay, now, you know, the alternative is that if people are in that situation, my understanding is the thing to do is ask for the normal pneumonia protocol in which you will be given a mixture of medical drug treatment or whatever, and then, where necessary, intubation.

01:14:04.460 But what we've discovered about it, what we have seen over the last year and a half, you know, if you remember in the summer, early summer of last year when Donald Trump was giving those press conferences from the White House every night, the obsession with ventilators.

01:14:20.100 I mean, it was like, you know, we've got 10,000, we've got, you know, that turned out to be a disaster because many people were killed by the ventilators.

01:14:27.060 That's right.

01:14:27.720 And that's a real problem because pretty older people, the shock of actually being ventilated in that way can be very profound for them.

01:14:36.220 And so that's, again, you see, there are so many of these mechanisms which can be ambiguous and which can, you know, allow for plausible deniability in the event of something going wrong.

01:14:51.020 So, but I, speaking for myself, like, I would be absolutely anxious to stay away from all doctors and hospitals.

01:14:57.440 Absolutely.

01:14:58.260 Yeah.

01:14:59.040 Absolutely.

01:14:59.540 For the time being, at least.

01:15:00.820 But again, I mean, we're going to have to, I mean, you're going to have to have a thorough, you know, post-mortem, shall we say, on all this from a medical point of view.

01:15:10.280 And with the question on, high on the blackboard, you know, how do we now, how do we store our hospitals and our medical professions to the trust of the public?

01:15:25.520 Yeah.

01:15:26.060 How can we allow, how can we manage to persuade the public?

01:15:29.540 Now, I don't mean to con the public into trusting them.

01:15:31.800 How can they be made trustworthy again?

01:15:34.300 Because they're not now.

01:15:35.340 And nobody would, in their right mind, would voluntarily go into a hospital unless they knew exactly the person they were dealing with and who they were going, who was going, if they'd had previous dealings with that person.

01:15:48.180 Even then, be careful.

01:15:49.980 But, so there, that's, that's where we stand.

01:15:51.860 All of those institutions in every country, it seems to me.

01:15:54.960 Yeah.

01:15:55.180 Because the principle is this, Enric, I mean, and particularly with politicians.

01:16:00.600 Politicians talk about, well, you know, you hear this, you actually hear them saying that.

01:16:04.460 Well, you know, we'll be able to give our, some freedoms back to vaccinated people or, well, we're thinking about having a freedom day on the 22nd of October when people will get a fair modicum of their freedoms back.

01:16:16.600 They're not freedoms.

01:16:18.440 Clearly, they're not freedoms if somebody in a shiny suit can give them to you.

01:16:22.420 How would they be freedoms?

01:16:23.280 So, the problem here is that if we allow this to pass, and then nothing is done to mark the meaning of it, and we just go on and say, okay, we're going back to normal now.

01:16:38.460 We're getting freedom back.

01:16:39.300 Okay.

01:16:40.120 That's fine.

01:16:40.880 But if you're walking down the street and think, well, yeah, those guys give me our freedom back, but they can take it away tomorrow.

01:16:44.900 Well, we've got to create a situation where it can never happen again.

01:16:48.380 Yeah.

01:16:48.540 And that involves creating impediments.

01:16:51.060 Literally, like, go in and we look at what they did legally and ensure that we have fail-safe mechanisms, that they cannot get close to these mechanisms again, these weapons again.

01:17:01.880 And I think, unfortunately, I have to say this, not out of vengeance or vindictiveness, but these guys all have to go to jail.

01:17:09.540 At the very least.

01:17:11.240 Yeah.

01:17:11.820 This is crimes, what do you call, war crimes, crimes against humanity. 0.85

01:17:15.460 I don't know what it was.

01:17:17.720 What's the technical term here to use?

01:17:19.440 We're kind of in new territory here, in a way, as far as I know.

01:17:22.460 And the way that they've rolled this out on a global scale, and we need to find out how much these people knew and how much they're part of either covering things up or part of understanding why this is being done and things like that.

01:17:41.200 I mean, we're far away from this.

01:17:42.780 Look, as we've said before, we might not even come out the other end of this having anything that resembles a civilization anymore.

01:17:51.120 We just don't know.

01:17:52.100 It's too early to tell, John.

01:17:53.680 I think, I mean, okay, this is a pure kind of, you know, anecdotal kind of impressionistic thing of my own.

01:18:02.900 But the way I kind of start, this question of, do they know?

01:18:07.340 The way I kind of look at that is, well, okay, well, what would be the normative demeanor of a political establishment in the face of a genuine threatened pandemic?

01:18:19.940 Yeah.

01:18:20.380 You know, remembering that a pandemic of that kind might be expected to make people very ill, to kill people.

01:18:27.340 I would have thought that the watchword to begin with would be compassion, sympathy, caring.

01:18:35.080 Let's put in place caring mechanisms which will protect people.

01:18:39.060 They didn't do any of that.

01:18:40.120 They were talking immediately from the word go about the fact that they would be changing laws to ensure that they had the means to arrest people who refused to be quarantined.

01:18:50.520 Yeah.

01:18:50.680 That was the first voice we heard, the head of the police force.

01:18:53.680 Yeah.

01:18:54.080 Saying, before anybody had died.

01:18:56.860 Or, sorry, before anybody had allegedly died.

01:18:59.780 So, this is a real clue.

01:19:04.680 And when you actually look at their demeanor, you see, this is something, you get so used to it, you don't actually pay attention, you know, I find.

01:19:10.380 And you have to kind of draw yourself back and say, look, what's that guy saying now?

01:19:13.980 And ask yourself, is the tone of that commensurate with the gravity that he claims is here?

01:19:22.940 And generally speaking, you'd find it's nothing like that.

01:19:25.460 Like, you know, for example, I was, again, when I was down at this arts festival at the weekend, I'd look going around.

01:19:30.160 I found that one of the leading propagandists of the entire thing here in Ireland, a scientist, you know, let's say,

01:19:37.200 has had, is on the road with his own COVID-19 roadshow.

01:19:44.680 Of course.

01:19:45.220 Yeah.

01:19:46.460 And it's called Keep Calm and Trust the Science.

01:19:52.300 It's all a great laugh, right?

01:19:54.720 Here is a killer disease.

01:19:57.180 Hey.

01:19:57.700 I know.

01:19:58.700 Now, does he really believe it's a killer disease if he's carrying on like that?

01:20:02.000 He should be in his white coat trying to find a cure for this thing.

01:20:05.080 But he's not.

01:20:08.680 He's out basking in the applause of the gullible Irish public.

01:20:12.680 Yeah.

01:20:14.400 So that tells me he doesn't believe it.

01:20:17.000 It tells me that the same test applied to pretty much all of the political class here tells me that very few of them,

01:20:23.260 I mean, a few of them, I think, do believe it. 1.00

01:20:25.480 I mean, there are particular stupid people in Irish politics, for sure. 1.00

01:20:28.780 I wouldn't doubt it. 1.00

01:20:30.260 But most of them now, they can't possibly believe it at this stage.

01:20:35.080 See, this is, like, ask yourself this, like, how can this be about public health?

01:20:39.820 Right.

01:20:40.320 I know.

01:20:41.360 It's not.

01:20:42.540 It's never been about that.

01:20:43.780 This has been about control.

01:20:45.800 This has been about subjugation.

01:20:47.200 This has been about transforming society in the image of a few select elites at the very top.

01:20:54.680 That's the only conclusion I can draw from this.

01:20:57.620 It's about dispossessing and enslaving the human population of the world. 0.84

01:21:01.140 Yeah.

01:21:01.240 And they're doing it by claiming that, no, what we're doing is to keep you safe.

01:21:08.060 This is to save you from the problem.

01:21:10.460 You know what I mean?

01:21:11.240 It's a, I mean, it's smart, obviously.

01:21:13.360 And it's ingenious, but it's dastardly.

01:21:16.420 I mean, it's utterly ingenious, though.

01:21:19.000 All of the way that things fit together.

01:21:21.860 And each time I go into it from a different perspective, I'm astonished by the coherence of it.

01:21:26.940 And the way that even across a range of different, entirely different cultures, it functions within each one in a very effective way.

01:21:36.240 Yeah.

01:21:36.340 It's quite ingenious.

01:21:38.180 It really is.

01:21:39.060 But it's, you know, pure evil also.

01:21:43.440 And, you know, I mean, I cannot rule out the possibilities that they're going to get away with it.

01:21:50.380 You know what I mean?

01:21:50.980 I know.

01:21:51.940 They are so cunning.

01:21:53.880 But they will get away with it, but their overall plan will not work.

01:21:57.120 In the long term, you know, you can't have a top-down plan for the world that will, you know, run efficiently in the manner of, you know, I don't know, what system of totalitarianism even remotely worked, even on a much smaller scale.

01:22:13.960 Yeah.

01:22:14.240 So for an entire globe, there's no chance that that will last any more than a couple of years.

01:22:20.100 And it will be, the people will burn their houses to the ground for sure.

01:22:25.240 But at the end, it will be a pretty rough time, a pretty rough ride, I think.

01:22:30.140 Yeah.

01:22:30.660 I mean, of course, you have the financial aspect of this, too.

01:22:33.920 I think we're also in a new, and we've had some elites talking about this, that we're in new territory in terms of what they have at their disposal when it comes to technology, right?

01:22:44.160 They have a, as you've talked about during this interview, too, that they have a deep knowledge of human psychology.

01:22:49.980 They know how to manipulate your emotions, your sense of, you know, your religious drives or cult drives, whatever you want to call it in a sense, right?

01:22:58.940 But then you have this new added layer of technology and population control and population management.

01:23:06.080 I mean, the advent of the television and mass media in and of itself is a form of, of course, a mind control, if you will, technology.

01:23:14.200 It's to coerce and control large segments of the population.

01:23:17.360 But then there's even more novel technologies that they have at their disposal.

01:23:21.960 And we'll see if some of that gets employed or not.

01:23:24.420 But they have many of them, from Brzezinski to, you know, there are some names up there that people have been talking about, Zbigniew Brzezinski.

01:23:33.260 There's a few others.

01:23:34.260 I'm forgetting some of the names now.

01:23:35.520 But they've talked about, I guess even, I guess, Klaus Schwab, right, at the very forefront of the World Economic Forum and the COVID-19 Great Reset.

01:23:42.960 He wrote the book on this and stuff like that.

01:23:44.680 He talks about this from the point of view of a fourth industrial revolution, that this is the greatest opportunity for them to remake everything, right?

01:23:52.600 Even this issue now that we have with the supply chains, which can also be a compounding issue on top of, let's say, people getting sick, people then not showing up to work.

01:24:01.760 Then you have congestion in the supply chain, meaning food won't be coming to the stores.

01:24:06.040 I mean, this is a disaster, a world-ending type disaster that potentially we're looking at here.

01:24:12.040 But then they're going to jump on that opportunity and say, see, we are going to never let this happen ever again.

01:24:18.220 We're going to have a chip, if you will, or an RFID device on every single product, even in every single human.

01:24:26.220 We're going to have an omnipotent system of artificial intelligence that's going to keep an eye on everything, right?

01:24:31.960 This is some of the stuff that he's been talking about, of reshaping even the fundamentals of the human being.

01:24:37.060 And to add one more thing to this, us going into this territory of genetically, or at least using genetic technology to produce an outcome inside of the human body, I'm talking about the mRNA technology that they're injecting into people now, that is kind of crossing the Rubicon, in a sense, into a transhumanist territory.

01:24:58.440 John, what do you think about this?

01:24:59.580 No, I do. I do think that that's all part of the agenda.

01:25:04.100 And I'm very interested. That's been the subject, more or less, of the article I've been working on, on your countrymen, Ava, and their forthcoming concerts in London as avatars of themselves.

01:25:16.900 And that, to me, seems to me to be a part of this whole move, shift of the imagination of the world towards a transhumanist project.

01:25:25.120 And there's also the other dimension of this, is that the financial system, the idea that we're being told repeatedly now by pretty authoritative people, that they're essentially going to dismantle the existing money system and replace it with a digital currency, which will operate in conjunction with social credit systems and whatnot, and universal basic income.

01:25:46.640 And so, basically, you will have a 99.99 recurring slave class, and then a very tiny elite who will basically have all the rights and all the privileges and all the wealth.

01:25:57.440 And I think that's actually a very plausible scenario, in theory.

01:26:03.680 But where I actually think that where the good news is, is that the systems that run the world are so chaotic that it's not possible to run the world without that level of chaos.

01:26:18.060 I mean, a market system is essentially a chaotic system.

01:26:21.180 Economists can only write in, understand it, or comprehend it in the most rudimentary way.

01:26:26.000 And I don't think these people have the necessary kind of skills or knowledge or experience or understanding of the human structure to implement what they seem to want to implement.

01:26:39.440 And I think that for that reason, it will become an utter disaster.

01:26:43.140 I don't mean a disaster in the sense that we might fear it will become, but a disaster in quite a good way, that essentially these people are going to have to run for the hills and that the world will be restored gradually over a period.

01:26:55.000 It could take years, but that we will get the world back, maybe in our lifetimes, as it was, or pretty much approximating to what it was. 0.99

01:27:03.520 I have a hope of that, because of the redeeming quality of these people, their arrogance and their stupidity combined. 0.99

01:27:12.720 That is, their redemptive qualities. 1.00

01:27:14.780 They're certainly the redemptive qualities of that individual there.

01:27:17.400 That he has one set of knowledge.

01:27:20.520 He has one line of knowledge and nothing else.

01:27:23.180 He doesn't understand humanity.

01:27:24.660 He doesn't understand how the human person feels and thinks.

01:27:29.160 What there is a relationship between rationalism and the human person.

01:27:33.740 You know, all of these things are major questions.

01:27:36.120 These guys have never intruded upon them.

01:27:38.160 And so I'm fairly optimistic that in the long run, this is going to come unstuck.

01:27:43.800 Of course, it will cause no end of grief.

01:27:46.560 But in a certain sense, given that this has happened, Henrik, I think that grief will be necessary in the sense that we need to impress upon the future leaders of the world that this can never be allowed to happen again in any sense whatever.

01:27:59.680 And that all of the things that were done here can never be done again.

01:28:05.120 There can be no lockdowns.

01:28:06.820 There can be no imposition on human freedoms.

01:28:09.400 There can be no restrictions.

01:28:11.520 There can be no policing of people's health.

01:28:14.360 There can be no mandates of vaccines or other face masks or anything like that.

01:28:18.880 All of that has to be regarded as, you know, in the manner of gas chambers.

01:28:25.800 You know, that's the level that we need to see this at.

01:28:28.520 And the people who have done it need to be treated in pretty much the same way as the perpetrators of that outrage were, in my opinion.

01:28:37.480 Whether that goes the full distance, I don't know.

01:28:39.440 I'm not necessarily saying that.

01:28:41.240 But I certainly think that they need to be taken off the streets for a very, very long time.

01:28:45.100 For the purpose of conveying to anybody in a shiny suit who's thinking of going the same route in the medium to long term future, that that would be a very unwise thing to be doing.

01:28:58.700 I think that's essential.

01:29:01.220 But the problem I have today is that there is no authority to whom I can go seeking to ask them to intervene because they're all corrupted by it.

01:29:09.760 That's right.

01:29:10.540 Yeah.

01:29:10.900 Yeah.

01:29:11.100 No, it's part of the same system.

01:29:12.340 There isn't any.

01:29:12.880 And that goes back to that point you mentioned that it needs to be leveled.

01:29:16.700 And it really then is up to people to rise to the occasion.

01:29:20.100 Here is a challenge like something we've never had before.

01:29:23.120 And I'm not saying, you know, go out and do dumb things.

01:29:27.160 Maybe, look, maybe the solution here is to just create a parallel society because it looks like those who are refusing to obey are being squeezed out anyway.

01:29:35.260 We're becoming secondhand citizens in our countries.

01:29:38.240 There is, you know, if you don't obey and do these medical experiments that we ask of you, you can't no longer take part.

01:29:45.760 I mean, there was, you know, no jab, no bank, no jab, no food.

01:29:48.980 Like France, we saw some of these things are barring people from going into the grocery store and getting and getting food.

01:29:53.820 But in Australia, it's a very interesting dynamic that with the construction workers, massive protest there.

01:29:58.720 I just saw some of the footage.

01:30:00.020 There was much more happening last night or the footage is coming out my time last night of them just taking over bridges and stuff.

01:30:06.680 And there was riot police.

01:30:07.720 And I mean, they were, they were at some point they had the police on retreat and then the stormtroopers arrived and they pushed back the construction workers.

01:30:15.700 But it occurred to me when I was looking at that, John, like, what if those people, all those guys, all those men that are working and propping up the system and ensuring that, you know, new buildings can go up, they repair things and that.

01:30:27.140 What if they just pulled out?

01:30:29.460 What if they, what if, what if they just walked away?

01:30:31.620 I'm not, and I'm not saying we shouldn't protest.

01:30:33.480 Absolutely.

01:30:33.960 We should do that.

01:30:34.520 100% what we're seeing out there with people showing up, protesting, fighting back, pushing back, showing up and, and, and making, you know, making them up there.

01:30:43.240 And the ivory tires know that there's people out there. 0.94

01:30:45.700 They're not going to take this lying down.

01:30:46.960 But at the end of the day, at the end of it, we shouldn't go crawling to these people to get our lives back and to get our freedoms back.

01:30:54.560 Do you know what I'm saying?

01:30:55.040 And it kind of connects with your idea there of, like, these institutions need to be leveled.

01:30:58.760 And maybe we don't even need to level them.

01:31:00.960 Maybe we just need to leave them.

01:31:03.040 Do you see what I'm saying, John?

01:31:04.100 Yeah.

01:31:04.680 And build somewhere else.

01:31:05.900 Exactly.

01:31:06.320 Incidentally, Henrik, I'm just looking at those two news items you have on your screen there right now.

01:31:13.920 New York Post and both about dementia.

01:31:17.420 Yeah.

01:31:17.600 Scientists warn that COVID will accelerate dementia pandemic.

01:31:21.140 Number of people with dementia expect to rise 40% within a decade.

01:31:24.580 I, who says, now, the who says.

01:31:27.140 Now, this is interesting.

01:31:28.020 I mean, I always, when I see things in the mainstream media, I become immediately suspicious,

01:31:32.820 particularly when they come from organizations like the who.

01:31:36.440 I don't want to go into any specifics, but I'm aware of a particular one case in recent times

01:31:40.720 where a person who was diagnosed with dementia and was put on some form of tablet,

01:31:46.780 and immediately they began to acquire dementia.

01:31:50.840 Yeah.

01:31:51.280 Immediately their whole system went into collapse because of a deficiency of salt arising from the use of this tablet.

01:32:00.320 Now, when the people around this person had the wisdom to say the tablet is the factor,

01:32:05.580 without consultation with the doctors, this person was taken off the tablet,

01:32:09.800 and the recovery was very slow.

01:32:11.820 It took many weeks, but it is now very much in train.

01:32:15.460 So I would say to people, beware of the Greeks bearing gifts. 1.00

01:32:20.760 Yeah, exactly.

01:32:21.400 Beware of who giving you advice about dementia,

01:32:24.380 because they are going to cause an epidemic of dementia.

01:32:27.500 That is their next plan.

01:32:30.160 Yeah, and that's, so that's another thing I forgot to mention earlier.

01:32:32.720 There seems to be suggestions right now that prion disease is one of the outcomes of the vaccine, right?

01:32:37.520 It actually is a form of a protein.

01:32:40.020 I forget the technical, how this was meant to work on the back end,

01:32:44.700 but there's something about the vaccine over time kind of crystallizes,

01:32:47.500 and it causes the prions to, again, I forget exactly what this,

01:32:53.540 if the prions grows or if they take over cells or if it's like a cancerous thing.

01:32:57.300 I'm not sure how it works, but that's one of the things I've heard.

01:32:59.940 And, of course, that would lead to dementia and other things,

01:33:03.800 schizophrenia, other kinds of things, where basically your brain becomes like a Swiss cheese.

01:33:07.360 It actually develops holes in the brain tissue as a consequence of this vaccine.

01:33:12.960 Yes, and, of course, by the way, you know, a lot of these symptoms

01:33:15.800 are not actually symptoms of COVID at all,

01:33:19.520 even just for a moment, engaging, indulging the fiction of COVID.

01:33:23.200 They're actually symptoms of the lockdown.

01:33:27.060 Of the vacs?

01:33:28.060 Oh, the lockdown, okay.

01:33:30.120 That's what, like, they're all coming from the secondary stages.

01:33:32.900 I mean, the lockdown has had enormous effects on people's health.

01:33:36.780 Late treatment and scans and so on,

01:33:39.300 and through depression and despair and all kinds of things.

01:33:44.540 And that sense, as I say, of psychic shock that I think is actually affecting many,

01:33:49.500 many people in the world now.

01:33:51.900 That, you know, we all of us feel.

01:33:54.220 I mean, the way I've been able to articulate it,

01:33:57.520 which I think is quite graphic, but it does do it for me.

01:33:59.800 I don't know.

01:34:00.400 It's that it's almost like if I feel, this is a metaphor, obviously,

01:34:03.760 but it's like that I feel that they have found some device that can turn up gravity.

01:34:09.020 And they've been turning it up.

01:34:10.380 So now that I feel that the weight on me every moment

01:34:12.960 is about three to four times what it was,

01:34:15.860 and that I feel it on my shoulders and my back during the day,

01:34:20.100 that I'm carrying the world around,

01:34:21.760 or I'm carrying the sky around on my shoulders.

01:34:24.640 That's kind of the physical symptoms of what I'm describing.

01:34:28.260 And I think that was related when I felt that became exacerbated

01:34:31.140 when I had that flu recently.

01:34:33.100 Yeah.

01:34:33.580 So I think that people need to be very conscious

01:34:36.840 of looking after their health.

01:34:38.620 I mean, and at that banal level,

01:34:39.940 I would say to people that I've been taking vitamin D.

01:34:43.680 I think that I'm told that when you take vitamin D,

01:34:45.980 you should take it with vitamin K,

01:34:47.800 which helps it to be incorporated into the system.

01:34:50.560 That's very important.

01:34:51.860 But I think above all, zinc, it seems to me,

01:34:54.560 is the most essential element.

01:34:57.140 I stopped taking it for a while because there was shortages here.

01:35:01.760 But I would urge people to try and find as much zinc as they can find

01:35:05.960 to get them through the winter.

01:35:07.460 And take, you know, regular, everyday, one or whatever it is,

01:35:11.980 two if you don't feel so good.

01:35:14.480 And if you feel something coming on, nuke it with zinc.

01:35:17.820 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:19.420 That's my advice.

01:35:20.160 Absolutely.

01:35:20.760 I think, yeah, so we had something like that too, me and my wife.

01:35:26.500 And I think I was exposed to, I don't know, right?

01:35:29.880 So we don't know.

01:35:30.960 Is it a genuine variant of this thing as a product of the vaccine?

01:35:36.500 Or were we exposed to someone that's actually just shedding the spiked protein?

01:35:40.260 Because that's, you know, another thing here as well,

01:35:42.180 that you have basically vaccine factories walking around out there,

01:35:46.460 those that have been vaccinated.

01:35:47.240 And their viral load is something that did nasal swabs and whatnot 0.99

01:35:51.800 of those that have been vaccinated.

01:35:53.540 And I think they had something like 250 times the viral load

01:35:57.580 as people who had had COVID and then, you know,

01:36:00.100 supposedly developed natural immunity and things like this, right?

01:36:03.040 So I don't know.

01:36:04.700 There's a number of things here going on.

01:36:06.160 I would go along with you there.

01:36:07.700 I mean, obviously, I can't establish this in any kind of definitive way.

01:36:13.340 But my strongest suspicion that that was the factor,

01:36:16.760 that something like that, I don't know what the thing was,

01:36:20.100 but I think that it actually may have been something to do

01:36:24.320 with shedding from vaccinated people,

01:36:26.960 because I did have some contact with some people

01:36:29.380 in the days before this came on.

01:36:34.320 And, yeah, I think, and so that tells us,

01:36:37.380 and I mean, there are doctors who are saying now

01:36:39.180 that the vaccinated need to be quarantined.

01:36:42.620 Yeah, exactly.

01:36:43.740 And that's why we shouldn't be mixing.

01:36:45.580 You know, we should actually, far from them,

01:36:47.440 interrogating the unvaccinated as to whether they're vaccinated or not.

01:36:51.720 The unvaccinated need to be asking everybody else, 1.00

01:36:54.600 well, are you vaccinated?

01:36:55.700 Because if you are, I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to meet you for coffee.

01:36:58.500 Yeah, you're the spreader now.

01:37:00.600 Look at these headlines here real quick, John, here.

01:37:03.160 Scientists are working on vaccines that spread like a disease.

01:37:07.340 What could possibly go wrong?

01:37:09.460 A vaccine that could spread like a virus.

01:37:12.020 Here's another one.

01:37:13.040 Vaccines of the future could be as contagious as viruses.

01:37:17.460 And then finally, we now have the technology

01:37:19.540 to develop vaccines that spread themselves.

01:37:22.480 And one I didn't have time to bring in today's headline,

01:37:24.960 but it said that they're working on turning lettuce

01:37:28.700 and various forms of salad into a vaccine.

01:37:34.080 I'll see if I can find that headline.

01:37:35.460 But new technologies like this.

01:37:37.120 I even saw proposals to have a kind of a,

01:37:40.060 that you breathe in the vaccine.

01:37:41.680 You just spray it in the air, essentially,

01:37:43.060 and you breathe it in and you get the same effect.

01:37:46.140 That's completely involuntary.

01:37:47.900 Exactly, right.

01:37:48.560 You may not even know you've had it.

01:37:50.100 That's right, yep.

01:37:51.480 Yeah, well, that's kind of where they're moving to this

01:37:53.500 because they're actually trying to bludgeon down

01:37:55.120 all of the walls that protected human rights in this way

01:37:57.980 and bodily integrity and so on

01:37:59.580 and basically operate this kind of bullying principle

01:38:02.640 of the public interest or, you know, the common good

01:38:06.160 that this supersedes all personal rights now.

01:38:10.240 And that's been one of the most fundamental changes

01:38:12.340 that nobody's really talked about or seemed to notice

01:38:15.320 very much in the last year and a half.

01:38:17.300 That, you know, people now talk blithely about, you know,

01:38:20.020 well, you know, human rights, individual rights

01:38:22.680 don't really have any currency when there's a pandemic.

01:38:27.220 Okay, but is there a pandemic?

01:38:30.260 No answer.

01:38:32.040 Yeah, certainly not a natural one.

01:38:34.500 Whatever we're looking at here, whatever this is yet,

01:38:37.420 and we're still, you know, having discussions about this,

01:38:39.760 but whatever it is, it's been, I'd say,

01:38:42.660 95% completely engineered.

01:38:45.860 And it could, you know, if we had the right people in power,

01:38:48.720 it would have been preventable and would have been unstoppable.

01:38:50.880 What even about the early stages, right?

01:38:53.460 In the early days, I'm thinking back to late December 2019,

01:38:58.440 early January 2020, right?

01:39:00.340 We started getting some of this rumors out of China.

01:39:04.740 We saw some, everybody saw the scaremongering videos

01:39:07.260 with people just falling over.

01:39:08.780 The kind of scenes which we didn't see around us

01:39:11.420 when supposedly this arrived in our lands, right?

01:39:13.720 But in China, we saw various footage.

01:39:16.080 They were capturing people in nets.

01:39:17.860 They were welding people shut into their buildings

01:39:20.640 and all that stuff, right?

01:39:21.600 And there was some investigative reporting from Revolver News

01:39:23.920 where they basically went through a number of these videos

01:39:26.440 and they found that most of them were from other type of scenarios.

01:39:30.040 Much of this was engineered in that sense, right?

01:39:32.160 But it scared the living crap out of everyone around the world

01:39:35.940 that was witnessing this because we didn't know what is this thing.

01:39:38.560 But one of the early proposals, you know, so-called far-right

01:39:42.940 and the baddies had was, well, close the borders down.

01:39:46.980 Don't let people fly out of China. 0.97

01:39:49.400 And I remember the pushback from the liberals at the time.

01:39:51.760 It was, no, that's racist.

01:39:55.640 Yeah, exactly.

01:39:56.200 No, no, you can't do that.

01:39:57.120 In fact, they encouraged people to go out and hug a Chinese person

01:40:01.340 with campaigns, you know, to these kinds of things, right?

01:40:03.620 I'll tell you a really funnier one, you know, in Ireland.

01:40:05.800 In Ireland, back in March 2020, there was a rugby match, football match,

01:40:10.980 scheduled for, I think it was the 8th of March.

01:40:13.860 And the match was cancelled about a week before by the government.

01:40:18.540 But all of the flights which had been booked full of Italians, 1.00

01:40:22.320 which was actually what we call the epicentre of the European contagion

01:40:26.840 at that point, we were told.

01:40:29.320 All those flights landed in Dublin and all the Italians got off 1.00

01:40:32.180 and they walked around Dublin for the weekend.

01:40:33.680 And nobody thought this was strange.

01:40:36.760 And when we raised it in court, we were told that, you know,

01:40:38.960 this is unacceptable, inappropriate, and so on.

01:40:42.160 Wow, I haven't heard that one.

01:40:43.480 But I'm not surprised, right?

01:40:44.840 That's very interesting.

01:40:47.180 It's like they wanted this thing to spread.

01:40:49.560 That's the bottom line.

01:40:50.900 They wanted this to, again, and I'm totally with you on that.

01:40:54.360 Like, it might not even be a virus we're looking at at all.

01:40:57.540 And it's very hard.

01:40:58.560 I haven't figured all of that out yet.

01:41:00.300 Yeah, I mean, I go into that kind of double talk and double think all the time

01:41:05.740 because we don't know definitively.

01:41:08.140 No, no, not yet.

01:41:09.260 We're still trying to put the jigsaw together.

01:41:11.620 And some parts don't seem to fit at all with others.

01:41:14.860 So, you know, I agree.

01:41:16.960 You know, I mean, there may well be something.

01:41:19.000 Certainly there is now is the point.

01:41:21.060 Exactly.

01:41:21.680 There's something now.

01:41:22.580 Yeah.

01:41:23.060 Many things maybe.

01:41:24.380 Many mutations, viruses now out there, which are actually quite dangerous.

01:41:30.640 And I would say to people, you've really got to build up your immune system

01:41:33.240 in the next few, couple of months.

01:41:36.760 Well, it depends on the part of the world you're in.

01:41:38.240 But, I mean, certainly here where we are in Europe, the winter will be, you know,

01:41:42.800 come in November, we need to have our immune systems in far better order

01:41:46.740 than they are now.

01:41:48.200 And for that reason, I would say, you know, the vitamin D3, C, magnesium,

01:41:55.780 and zinc, absolutely.

01:41:57.260 Yeah.

01:41:57.720 Large doses of C, D3, you know, ivermectin, frankly, if you can get it too.

01:42:03.360 There's a lot of good things out there that actually does seem to work.

01:42:05.860 There's protocols.

01:42:06.240 We'll probably share some of those soon on one of our shows.

01:42:10.280 We've been talking with some doctors who have their head screwed on, right?

01:42:14.020 And there are different protocols out there, like Math Plus was one of them.

01:42:17.320 There's one that the FLCC, the frontline doctors, they have been developing.

01:42:22.240 They have it on their website and stuff like that.

01:42:24.280 But point taken, because I see a lot of the crowd that, you know,

01:42:29.700 were questioning this from day one and they were right to do so.

01:42:32.600 Or, you know, maybe not from day one, but, you know, spring or summer 2020,

01:42:36.800 they started like, hey, something's amiss with this.

01:42:39.220 They looked at the number.

01:42:40.240 They looked at how the cases were hyped up.

01:42:42.820 The deaths that we did see was from other types of diseases.

01:42:46.520 It was attributed to COVID, but people died of other things, et cetera.

01:42:49.520 But don't put your guard down now, because as we go into autumn and winter,

01:42:56.360 now you do have something real out there.

01:42:58.060 And I think that's a good takeaway, John, from this, too, that, like, watch out,

01:43:01.140 because this time it's real.

01:43:02.140 Go ahead.

01:43:03.320 Yeah, that's exactly the point.

01:43:04.380 That's exactly the point.

01:43:05.380 That actually all bets are off now.

01:43:07.640 Yeah.

01:43:08.060 And we adhere to the analysis that we said for 2020.

01:43:13.500 2021 is an entirely different deal.

01:43:15.740 Yeah.

01:43:16.480 We don't know what's out there now.

01:43:18.220 We don't know what effects it's going to have.

01:43:19.800 We don't know what state we're in in order to receive it or deal with it.

01:43:23.300 We really have to protect ourselves and each other in that sense.

01:43:26.120 And that includes, you know, protecting ourselves primarily, I would say, 1.00

01:43:29.960 from people who have been stupid enough to take this appalling so-called vaccine. 1.00

01:43:33.960 Yeah. 1.00

01:43:34.580 Because they are walking time bombs.

01:43:38.000 That's absolutely right.

01:43:39.480 John, we're going to let you go in a bit here.

01:43:41.860 Is there anything else that you feel is important to talk about

01:43:45.660 or highlight to our audience,

01:43:46.680 or maybe if there's something you want to promote or plug or something like that?

01:43:51.040 Nothing in particular.

01:43:52.240 I think we've covered a lot of ground.

01:43:53.360 And I don't think there's much at the moment that occurs to me.

01:44:01.480 I just emphasize that we're on the cusp now, I think, of the real,

01:44:08.600 the beginning of the actual pandemic.

01:44:11.720 Yeah.

01:44:12.420 And I believe that that actually has been engineered precisely in this way. 0.98

01:44:16.640 These people are not stupid. 0.86

01:44:18.740 Everything else in the jigsaw, those other parts, 0.96

01:44:21.440 you can see that the way they've planned it,

01:44:24.460 that it is worked out to the end degree.

01:44:27.660 There's no reason to expect or to believe that these parts of it are not planned either

01:44:32.820 and that they have a malign intention for this coming winter.

01:44:36.240 I have two chats here.

01:44:37.480 We can do those real quick.

01:44:38.340 From Archie, he says,

01:44:39.360 maintain immunity to Wu flu, meaning the coronavirus, by frequent exposure.

01:44:43.220 And again, I'd say, so I don't know what, do you know about this that,

01:44:47.100 I guess, as always, the science is not settled here,

01:44:51.100 but I've seen some articles and some studies on this that apparently if you have had this thing,

01:44:56.700 whatever it is, unless, barring that they're releasing something completely new

01:45:01.420 or some variant that's so genetically different that your body no longer kind of recognizes,

01:45:06.060 barring that, I've heard that if you've had a milder version even of this disease initially,

01:45:12.120 or again, maybe, again, the vaccine, whatever, whatever it is, right,

01:45:15.000 you've had it in your body and your body managed to push it out, whatever it was,

01:45:19.100 that you have immunity against it, right, and then you would be safe.

01:45:22.580 But if you haven't had it before, you should maybe try to take,

01:45:26.700 ask the potentiality of the variants getting worse and worse

01:45:29.980 as they vaccinate more and more of the population and bring out a third and fourth shot. 0.58

01:45:33.540 Maybe should we avoid, as you said, avoid then that as those people all together?

01:45:39.780 Or is it, can we get exposed and your body works up immunity as it gets gradually stronger?

01:45:46.320 Or what's your take?

01:45:48.220 Obviously, Henrik, I'm not a doctor in any sense.

01:45:50.900 I'm only going on what I hear from trustworthy people that I trust.

01:45:54.820 And from what I've picked up from them, this is not something you can risk,

01:46:00.460 take a punt at getting, and, you know, you just don't know.

01:46:05.840 We don't know what's coming off these people now.

01:46:08.300 We don't know what, because, you see, their bodies are essentially manufacturing spike proteins.

01:46:13.020 And they're highly contagious.

01:46:15.560 And we don't know how virulent they are.

01:46:17.980 You know, we just don't know.

01:46:19.720 And so I can tell you what I had, for whatever reason, was pretty crucifying

01:46:25.540 in the sense that the aftermath of it nearly, you know, it just remained static for weeks

01:46:31.300 and without any massive dramatic symptoms.

01:46:36.180 So I would say to people, stay, keep to yourself as much as possible for the next few months.

01:46:42.280 You know, for people out in the countryside, it's a better place to be.

01:46:45.300 If you can live in the countryside, you know, I think it's better, you know.

01:46:49.520 I agree.

01:46:49.860 Stay away from the cities, because it's about to get ugly.

01:46:52.340 That's what I think.

01:46:53.520 Yeah, it's going to get ugly as well.

01:46:54.840 Yeah.

01:46:55.020 Because, I mean, already, you know, I'm told that the media here are cranking it up

01:46:59.060 to try and set the vaccinated against the unvaccinated.

01:47:01.680 This is the new agenda.

01:47:02.840 Yeah.

01:47:03.340 And to try to demonize them and turn them into total pariahs.

01:47:07.180 I don't know how long that will last.

01:47:09.220 I mean, once the death toll starts to mount, and it's quite clear that the people dying

01:47:13.120 are actually vaccinated, I don't know what that's going to do.

01:47:16.060 You see, you can get all kinds of irrational responses.

01:47:18.480 I mean, the unvaccinated may turn on the unvaccinated just out of sheer weight.

01:47:23.140 Oh, absolutely.

01:47:23.840 That's what they're, I mean, this is a plain to see.

01:47:28.240 They're ramping this up in the media.

01:47:29.960 It's, you know, Biden's speech there when he mandated businesses that have 100 employees

01:47:34.900 or more, all of them need to be vaccinated.

01:47:36.720 He said, our patience is running thin or something like that, right?

01:47:39.640 It's implying this, that it's like, soon enough, we'll have, you know, response teams,

01:47:45.180 strike teams ready to forcefully vaccinate people because you're the reason that everybody's

01:47:49.860 dying.

01:47:50.380 Like, you know, but if this works, if this vaccine works, you should be protected then, right?

01:47:56.000 Well, this is the aspect that, Henrik, that actually I find hardest to comprehend.

01:48:01.980 And yet, undoubtedly, I have to bear witness to it.

01:48:07.040 I have, that actually what we're looking at in these cases and these individuals like

01:48:10.800 Biden, we're seeing pure evil at work.

01:48:13.820 Like, we're seeing somebody who is clear.

01:48:15.740 And I know he's in a particular category because he's not all there at the moment.

01:48:19.200 But this seems to be like all restraint seems to have been left behind here.

01:48:29.500 And whether that's because they're actually relying on the pretext that they're still saving

01:48:36.920 lives, they're actually getting away with it.

01:48:40.020 I mean, I don't think that's Biden, by the way.

01:48:41.600 I mean, that's obviously Biden's youngest nephew or something.

01:48:45.080 You know, like, but so I think that, you know, this is, to me, it's, this is one of the most

01:48:54.480 stressful things, I think, for people, is trying to get their heads around the pure evil that

01:49:01.080 they're watching and trying to think, well, what could it be?

01:49:04.660 Well, it's evil.

01:49:06.200 That's what it is.

01:49:08.660 That we have to come to terms with that.

01:49:10.380 We're dealing with pure evil and we need to protect ourselves from it in all the kinds

01:49:13.620 of ways that you would.

01:49:14.500 And that is, I think, supernatural methods as well.

01:49:17.520 You know, I mean, we need all kinds of protections.

01:49:19.720 Absolutely.

01:49:20.440 I have one more here and then I'll let you go from Wise Wildfire. 0.59

01:49:23.240 Thank you, Wise.

01:49:23.700 I appreciate the super chat here.

01:49:24.800 It says, apologies if this was covered, but does someone know if anybody is performing

01:49:29.620 any comparison analysis between IQ tests or IQ test scores before or for both those infected

01:49:37.980 before and after, as well as those vaccinated before and after?

01:49:41.620 And again, a third set of data for those that have been classified as having both the infection

01:49:46.380 and the vaccine.

01:49:47.720 The third category, I don't know, but I heard a while ago I was reading something where they

01:49:52.300 said that the IQ, I don't know how they measure this, but it was supposedly something in IQ levels

01:49:57.180 in newborns that had dropped something like 20 points as a consequence of, again, then maybe

01:50:03.460 being around mothers that have been vaccinated and being exposed or something.

01:50:07.960 Have you heard anything about the IQ?

01:50:09.420 I would assume it's related to the dementia issues that they're saying.

01:50:12.820 I don't know really about that, Henrik.

01:50:15.780 I haven't really gone into that issue in any depth.

01:50:19.340 I'm not sure.

01:50:21.020 Yeah, strange.

01:50:22.040 We'll see if we can find some on that, Wise.

01:50:23.840 But yeah, I have heard something that apparently, and again, I would attribute most of this not

01:50:29.360 to what they say is the virus, but actually because of the vaccinations, the program and

01:50:33.960 such like that.

01:50:34.960 But johnwaters.substack.com, that's one place where people can follow your writing and your

01:50:39.880 work, and of course you have paid articles there too, so people can support your work

01:50:44.560 that way.

01:50:45.280 What was the other source, again, you said, your web blog?

01:50:49.480 No, that's what I call it.

01:50:52.340 Okay, gotcha.

01:50:53.300 I thought it was a secondary source.

01:50:55.020 So this is your primary place where people need to go to follow you?

01:50:58.480 Yeah, I write occasionally for first things.

01:51:01.320 I've got a lot of articles on there somewhere on their site as well.

01:51:04.960 So if you want to look up that, it's there.

01:51:06.560 You'll find my name on it somewhere on the menu.

01:51:09.160 And I'm intermittently still writing the old piece.

01:51:12.500 I like it.

01:51:12.900 It's a good magazine.

01:51:14.040 Excellent.

01:51:14.880 John, thank you so much for coming on, sir.

01:51:16.520 I appreciate your time today.

01:51:17.520 We appreciate your work, your perspective, and, well, speaking out, considering your past

01:51:22.000 as a journalist.

01:51:23.180 I know you don't want to be associated with that anymore, which I totally get, but thank

01:51:26.320 you so much for coming on.

01:51:27.140 I appreciate your time.

01:51:28.560 It's my pleasure, Inric.

01:51:29.900 Thank you so much for having me.

01:51:31.140 All right.

01:51:31.380 Talk to you later.

01:51:31.940 Thank you.

01:51:32.260 All right, ladies and gentlemen, that's John Waters.

01:51:35.180 Thank you to everyone watching here today.

01:51:36.680 We do appreciate your time.

01:51:37.740 I'm going to let John go right there, but I wanted to play, I think I'm going to play

01:51:41.240 one clip here before we let you guys go. 0.98

01:51:43.980 Thank you to Wise over on Entropy and also to Archie.

01:51:46.360 We do appreciate you joining us over there.

01:51:48.180 I didn't really plug that today, but I appreciate you guys, the support.

01:51:51.500 We're going to be back tomorrow, of course, with more No-Go Zone, continue to cover the

01:51:57.520 debacle and the unfolding apocalypse, the coming zombie apocalypse, whatever you want

01:52:03.800 to call it.

01:52:04.700 There are some other developments too, of course, but plenty to cover as usual.

01:52:08.540 Why don't we end with this clip?

01:52:09.860 I did actually play this in the Weekend Warrior show with Mark Collett, as you can see on screen

01:52:15.680 right there, too, by the way.

01:52:16.520 Definitely check out that show.

01:52:17.480 It was a good one.

01:52:17.940 It turned out to be a longer one.

01:52:19.320 We talked quite a bit with Mark regarding the situation in the UK, but bigger as well,

01:52:26.680 a bigger, you know, kind of generally kind of falling on here from what we talked with

01:52:30.440 John about here today, but that was a good show.

01:52:33.260 I covered some of the other stories in the beginning.

01:52:35.040 There's an eruption in La Palma right now.

01:52:37.440 I heard one is blowing up in Alaska as well.

01:52:40.580 There's one in the Philippines recently.

01:52:42.160 A lot of volcanic activity, but one of the weird things with the La Palma one is that there

01:52:47.260 is a fissure or like a rift at the top of one of the sides of the mountains that's erupting,

01:52:51.940 which they've said could slide into the ocean, which would create a so-called mega tsunami

01:52:56.240 that would hit the east coast about nine hours after this thing fell into the Atlantic Ocean.

01:53:03.160 La Palma is on the northwestern coast of African island, a Spanish island, and it would also

01:53:09.340 hit the west coast of Europe and stuff like that.

01:53:12.780 So we talked about that and some other stories, so check out the latest Weekend Warrior show

01:53:16.560 if you want to check out all our stuff.

01:53:19.320 It's at redicemembers.com.

01:53:20.900 Check out the Weekend Warrior show.

01:53:22.040 We do that exclusively for our members.

01:53:25.100 But let me find this clip here.

01:53:26.620 It was kind of, it's some of the protests, right?

01:53:29.600 It's encouraging to see some of this stuff.

01:53:33.340 But keep in mind as well that as more people are out there protesting and stuff like that,

01:53:37.860 if you have vaccinated people among those crowds, and I'm not saying that masks work or anything

01:53:43.040 like that, I'm not going to go that way, but supposedly some things like an N95 would

01:53:47.820 actually work better or whatever.

01:53:49.220 I mean, a surgical mask won't do anything.

01:53:50.880 It doesn't protect you or whatever.

01:53:52.840 The vaccinated carry, I mean, massive amounts of viral loads, right?

01:53:57.040 So I don't even know if you can protect yourself in some way.

01:54:00.280 Maybe you just have to stay away from them, as John said.

01:54:02.380 Maybe that's the thing.

01:54:03.300 So keep that in mind.

01:54:04.140 We're talking about a very evil elite, and when they see these freedom protests and stuff

01:54:10.080 like that, don't put it past them to literally have somebody, a patient zero, if you will,

01:54:15.040 walking around in the crowd or, yeah, I'm going to say it, but even spraying something in

01:54:19.640 this crowd, whatever, whatever means now they have to disseminate some kind of new strain

01:54:25.020 or new variant or something like that, or maybe it's a new spike protein or something

01:54:28.300 they're working on.

01:54:29.000 Anything is possible here, right?

01:54:30.460 But nonetheless, it's good to see this kind of protest from around the world.

01:54:35.620 It is encouraging.

01:54:36.680 We'll end with this clip, and then we'll see you guys tomorrow.

01:54:39.780 Thank you for tuning in.

01:54:40.620 Hope you enjoy the show.

01:54:42.060 Take care.

01:54:42.440 We'll see you guys come through.

01:54:53.660 We'll see you next time.

01:54:57.820 We'll see you next time.

01:55:02.760 We'll be right back.

01:55:32.760 We'll be right back.

01:56:02.760 We'll be right back.

01:56:32.760 We'll be right back.

01:57:02.740 I learned a lot about this.

01:57:04.580 I worked for the UN for a while.

01:57:06.560 I worked on this document, which was the report to the Secretary General on sustainable economic development.

01:57:15.360 But we think the vaccines are effective and they're available to you and we can't risk any more damage to the economy.

01:57:21.380 It's quite funny because a lot of the right-wing conspiracy theorists are having a field day with that and I'm some sort of like closet globalist shill because I work momentarily for the UN.

01:57:35.760 But their most likely will be more than like what's your limit?

01:57:41.580 As many as I recommend.

01:57:43.500 Yeah, because like all these like millionaires were actually investing in Moderna, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson.

01:57:49.380 These are like the top, fastest growing companies and they're like literally just getting richer. 0.63

01:57:54.560 Like these companies don't give a fuck about us. 0.61

01:57:58.560 Like honestly. 0.93

01:57:59.040 Like let's be honest.

01:58:00.080 It's all about money and power.

01:58:02.080 No, I'm not.

01:58:04.840 See, look at that.

01:58:05.900 I didn't judge you.

01:58:07.460 And you just, see?

01:58:08.360 Oh, the government doesn't care about you.

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01:59:10.620 Oh, the government doesn't?

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01:59:17.040 Oh, the government doesn't care about you.

01:59:19.760 Yeah, because we don't have to worry about you.

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Red Ice TV - September 21, 2021

Covid Takeover - John Waters

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