Red Ice TV - October 08, 2025


Digital IDs： The Cyber Cage Roll Out Begins In Switzerland

Topics
Swiss digital ID vote approval
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Henrik Palmgren Lana Lokteff
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Swiss voters have narrowly approved a plan to introduce voluntary electronic identification cards, or "Digital IDs." It's more convenient, right? What's the problem? With all votes counted, 50.4% of those who voted said yes to the proposal, while 49.6% rejected it.

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00:00:00.000 Well, some sad news out of Switzerland. 1.00
00:00:02.480 Goddamn Swiss people. 1.00
00:00:03.880 Maybe it was a fake vote. 1.00
00:00:05.440 I'm not sure about today.
00:00:06.880 Narrowly here approved a plan for electronic ID cards or digital IDs.
00:00:13.880 They sold it somehow.
00:00:15.360 Of course, this is the land of, you know, the World Economic Forum 0.96
00:00:18.720 and the gnomes of Zurich and all this shit and the World Bank and stuff. 0.88
00:00:21.840 So it kind of makes sense. 0.96
00:00:22.740 But check out how they do this, though.
00:00:24.260 It says Swiss voters have narrowly approved a plan to introduce voluntary electronic identification cards.
00:00:31.380 Well, that sounds...
00:00:32.180 To make your life easier and quicker.
00:00:33.680 It's voluntary.
00:00:35.080 It's more convenient, right?
00:00:35.480 What's the problem?
00:00:36.060 One scan, everything comes up, right?
00:00:37.840 With all votes counted, 50.4% of those who voted said yes to the proposal,
00:00:44.480 while 49.6% rejected it.
00:00:47.280 Close.
00:00:47.700 This is right there.
00:00:49.160 The closeness of the ballot is a surprise.
00:00:51.520 Why?
00:00:52.180 Opinion polls had suggested that up to 60% backed digital IDs, 0.95
00:00:57.120 which is dumb bullshit because they always poll the wrong people, right? 0.87
00:01:00.720 So they do that to make sure, oh, everyone else agrees with this? 0.99
00:01:03.360 Okay, let's do it then.
00:01:04.800 Anyway.
00:01:05.680 Which also had the approval of the Swiss government and both houses of parliament.
00:01:08.800 It was Switzerland's second vote.
00:01:10.680 Check this out.
00:01:11.280 Second vote on digital IDs.
00:01:13.580 An earlier proposal was rejected in 2021 amid concerns the data would be held centrally
00:01:19.780 and controlled largely by private providers.
00:01:21.980 But now it's okay.
00:01:23.180 Like, now it's fine.
00:01:24.340 That was COVID era when they were first pushing that in 2021.
00:01:27.420 But yeah, so the point there is, okay, it doesn't work.
00:01:30.660 Oh, four years goes by.
00:01:31.740 Let's try again.
00:01:32.960 If they didn't go through, okay, three years go by.
00:01:35.020 Let's try again.
00:01:35.640 Yep.
00:01:35.920 Two years goes by.
00:01:36.580 Let's try again.
00:01:37.100 One year goes by.
00:01:37.640 Let's try again.
00:01:38.080 Is it ever the opposite way?
00:01:40.060 So you have it for a while and then it's like, let's vote on if you want to keep it now.
00:01:43.540 No, that never happens.
00:01:44.400 Well, now the whole idea is, well, it's a high-tech society.
00:01:47.300 It's making your life easier.
00:01:49.300 You know, Finland has an electronic ID card.
00:01:51.780 They have some chip and it's like, it's fine in Finland.
00:01:54.600 Yeah, with some little homogenous population and maybe they've had it for years.
00:01:59.580 But that was before, like, you know, Big Brother was really coming into effect, right?
00:02:03.580 Well, you know it's some transnational corporation.
00:02:06.100 Like, it's probably, I mean, it's not even joking.
00:02:08.140 It's probably, I'll look it up.
00:02:09.200 It's probably Oracle that, like, controls the data for Finland.
00:02:12.600 Because that's what they do.
00:02:13.400 They just, they are offshore.
00:02:14.880 Well, it's got to be secure.
00:02:15.920 We've got to trust one of the big boys, you see.
00:02:17.440 That's the way to do it.
00:02:18.260 They get access to all that data.
00:02:19.560 They share on the back end.
00:02:20.620 AI get access to.
00:02:21.460 You know the story.
00:02:22.380 This is what it is, right?
00:02:23.560 But they say, well, it's, you see, to ease privacy concerns, a particular authority seeking
00:02:29.480 information on a person, such as proof of age or nationality, for example, will only be able
00:02:33.760 to check for those specific details.
00:02:35.680 They can already do that.
00:02:36.760 Of course they can.
00:02:37.280 Just make a phone call.
00:02:38.300 They have their computer networks.
00:02:40.020 They have ways to tap into this.
00:02:41.700 Citizens can continue to use national identity cards if they choose, which has been standard
00:02:47.380 for decades in Switzerland.
00:02:49.140 Yeah.
00:02:49.340 But eventually they phase it out.
00:02:50.580 Of course.
00:02:51.040 That's always what it is.
00:02:52.360 They keep upgrading it, right?
00:02:53.840 Like, oh, we're phasing that out now.
00:02:55.300 You have to have this by this date.
00:02:56.920 Yeah.
00:02:57.560 So this is part of creating your digital person, your digital citizenship.
00:03:00.960 Digital technologies shape our lives.
00:03:04.160 We use them to express ourselves, connect with others, and explore new possibilities.
00:03:09.600 But are we truly equipped to navigate this digital world?
00:03:13.340 Being a digital citizen is about more than staying connected.
00:03:17.060 It's about using technology responsibly, staying safe, and respecting the rights of others online.
00:03:23.020 The European Year of Digital Citizenship Education 2025 is your chance to learn, grow, and make a difference.
00:03:32.780 Together, we can build a more inclusive, ethical, and democratic digital future.
00:03:38.700 That's what they want to do with this, right?
00:03:40.200 Fourth Industrial Revolution.
00:03:41.580 We've covered so much of this.
00:03:42.620 But it's to get the initial hooks in you that somehow, if you don't have, like, digitally everything in order, you will be, you'll get a harder time being frozen out of society.
00:03:54.100 But, you know, migrants and non-war.
00:03:55.280 Harder time being included in society, I guess.
00:03:57.200 Migrants and non-war will have a way to navigate around this and steal cards. 1.00
00:04:00.720 Well, they won't even be asked.
00:04:01.740 If you're brown, you won't be asked or whatever.
00:04:03.580 No, because if they're trying to say, oh, like in the UK, oh, you need it for employment.
00:04:06.420 Well, they already all don't work.
00:04:07.700 So, like, they don't even need the electronic ID card.
00:04:10.200 And even if they do, they work under the table or they're paid, you know, lower wage.
00:04:14.100 Anyway, we know the story.
00:04:15.440 They know how to hustle and cheat.
00:04:16.440 They say part of this is the effort to curb the number of illegal migrants living and working in the country.
00:04:21.700 Well, they already don't.
00:04:22.500 The UK in this case, yeah.
00:04:23.240 Yeah, and the UK.
00:04:24.340 And as I just said, they already don't work.
00:04:26.820 And how, this just means, like, a migrant is going to cross over the border and be like, yeah, I'll sign up for one of those right away. 0.98
00:04:33.500 Take my picture.
00:04:34.240 Take my fingerprints.
00:04:35.100 Put me in your system.
00:04:36.040 No, they're not going to do that.
00:04:37.120 They're just going to get in and avoid this altogether.
00:04:40.200 Well, the argument is, oh, you can't be employed if you don't have a digital ID.
00:04:44.240 So, the ha-ha, gotcha.
00:04:45.400 But the thing is, they already employ them under the table anyway.
00:04:48.060 This is what the corporations use to drive down wages. 0.99
00:04:50.260 That's why they hire illegal migrants. 1.00
00:04:52.420 Because they don't have to put them in the system.
00:04:54.260 So, they won't have a need for it.
00:04:56.140 No.
00:04:56.260 So, how is this going to curb illegal migrants?
00:04:58.640 It's not.
00:04:59.000 They're not the ones that are already here that are so easy to bust that they know about.
00:05:03.320 They know these networks.
00:05:04.960 They know what's happening. 0.87
00:05:06.180 Go and arrest them and kick them out.
00:05:08.460 This is just a lie they're using to sell it to people on our side.
00:05:12.160 They're using the momentum of the anti-immigration movement to piggyback a further prison, digital prison system on the native population.
00:05:19.840 That's what this is.
00:05:20.600 None of it is about getting illegals. 0.99
00:05:22.200 So, yeah, goddamn disappointing by the Swiss. 1.00
00:05:24.480 But, again, I wouldn't be surprised if this is, like, faked or something like that, right? 0.98
00:05:28.100 Here's the campaign.
00:05:29.100 Yes to the E-ID.
00:05:30.580 Digital Switzerland joins forces with the federal government and industry to implement specific use cases.
00:05:35.780 Oh, that's the other thing I'm thinking about.
00:05:37.020 There's a midget in a wheelchair there. 1.00
00:05:38.340 Of course.
00:05:39.640 Of course.
00:05:40.800 So, what they will do is that this could then also be tied into the fact that if you want to go online, you have to now show your ID.
00:05:48.960 Now, all your posts, anonymity is gone from the internet.
00:05:51.620 And, in fact, if you do continue then to violate those things, just like in Canada with Bill C8, sorry, boom, out you go.
00:05:57.540 You can't access the internet now.
00:05:59.000 Again, this is why Ellison said they will be on their best behavior, not because they want to, but because of threats, coercion, and fear.
00:06:07.280 And so people will begin to self-censor, not say what they want.
00:06:11.560 Ergo, this is how you deal with the noticing online.
00:06:14.220 AI, Israel, back-end, anti-Semitism.
00:06:16.780 You got it. 0.99
00:06:17.140 All the critique can just be curtailed by implementing shit like this. 0.97
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