Red Ice TV - April 24, 2025


Digital Nations： AI Startup Country For Disillusioned Right-Wingers Who Want To ＂Revive The West＂


Episode Stats

Length

28 minutes

Words per Minute

176.3849

Word Count

4,965

Sentence Count

374

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

In this episode, I talk about a new concept that's built on the idea of decentralized networks of people basically forming their own digital nations. It's an idea that's been around for a while, but now it's being taken to a whole new level.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I've talked about in the past of this idea of artificial nations or even corporations actually forming their own nations.
00:00:07.560 I'm not sure if you've heard of the network states, cloud nations, and it's basically like ultimate globalism, if you ask me.
00:00:14.180 Now, I understand things are so bad, right?
00:00:16.700 It's so awful. International trade, mass movements of people, migration, out-of-control governments, left-wing authoritarians and things like this
00:00:26.860 have caused us to get to a point where we basically are desperate for solutions and how to fix this.
00:00:32.320 Of course, we think it's to give back the nations to the ethnic natives of those lands and restore our nations once again.
00:00:39.500 But that's not what we're talking about here.
00:00:40.640 Now we're talking about a completely new concept that's built on technology.
00:00:44.620 It's built on the idea of decentralized networks of people basically forming their own digital nations.
00:00:51.880 Now, they do have plans to turn this into physical locations eventually.
00:00:56.320 There's a couple of people involved in this that are tied in to the usual suspects.
00:01:00.880 The Mark Andreassens, who's a venture capitalist that's well tied in with the Musks and the Peter Thiel's, the David Sachs's.
00:01:08.380 And as I was preparing some of the stuff for this, actually, the New York Post did an article on this very concept just yesterday,
00:01:17.300 which they titled Cyber City of the Future.
00:01:20.360 How an ambitious 29-year-old plans to build Praxis, a stateless tech utopia.
00:01:26.320 Dryden Brown believes we're on the precipice of a brave new world, and he wants to pioneer it.
00:01:32.520 The 29-year-old has an audacious vision for a futuristic new city-state he's planning to found, which will be called Praxis.
00:01:41.160 The city will be incredibly beautiful, Brown told the Post.
00:01:43.920 The architecture will be a fusion of classical aesthetics.
00:01:47.900 We're working on a fusion of gothic elements and space-age futurism.
00:01:53.160 The architecture is going to be something you've never seen before.
00:01:56.500 And here's the mandatory AI-generated images to, I guess, launch the concept or whatnot.
00:02:02.160 Brown wants Praxis to be a self-governing and completely independent of any other country or state.
00:02:07.520 And he claims he is in the advanced stages of talks to secure the land where he plans to found this new colony.
00:02:16.000 Beyond the buildings, he has also ideas in mind for the type of people who will live there.
00:02:20.620 Adding, if you were to walk through the city, you'd see people who are focused or in good shape
00:02:26.240 or walking briskly with a sense of intensity and purpose.
00:02:30.380 And it's like, okay, well, this kind of sounds interesting, right?
00:02:32.560 Well, wait for it.
00:02:35.180 The high-speed internet will be everywhere and technology at its bleeding edge will thrive.
00:02:41.960 We want to deregulate technology, continued Brown.
00:02:44.560 Praxians are far more intentional about finding projects that have deep meaning for them
00:02:49.740 and are consistent with their values.
00:02:52.300 Here's some other AI-generated cities here.
00:02:54.840 Looks like the Venus project from, you know, 20 years ago.
00:02:58.460 Although Brown's ideas may sound far-fetched and idealistic to some,
00:03:01.720 he's managed to get investors to buy in and claims to have a $500 million line of credit to get Praxis started.
00:03:10.720 One of them, indirectly, is Peter Thiel, according to Brown.
00:03:14.340 Thiel is an investment in Pronomos Capital, which has invested in practice,
00:03:18.820 although he adds, beyond that, I can't comment.
00:03:21.320 Others who are interested in the idea see the potential for a bold leap forward into a post-work society.
00:03:27.400 So here's the UBI, the robots are going to replace us.
00:03:29.940 What do we do? We've got to do something.
00:03:33.140 We've got to live somewhere. We've got to separate and all this stuff.
00:03:36.720 So there's people, of course, within white nationalist spheres that are not only talking about these things,
00:03:41.420 but doing it to intentional community and whatnot.
00:03:43.740 But what makes it different, obviously, is not only the people behind it, but the money behind it.
00:03:48.640 And, of course, the ultimate version of globalism, I think, is basically this,
00:03:54.340 where you have people so deracinated that now citizenships mean nothing.
00:03:59.180 And even the pieces of land that they might buy at some point here down the road
00:04:03.740 might basically just turn into what amounts to economic zones of sorts.
00:04:08.380 It's the ultimate libertarian free market paradise for the big tech bros, essentially.
00:04:14.900 It says that they will leave all the mundane work to AI-powered robots.
00:04:19.540 If AI and robotics come along, then we don't need huge workforces.
00:04:23.900 We could have a modern city with fully self-driving cars and robot cops.
00:04:28.600 Great.
00:04:29.140 It would be the high-tech version of a new world where you could start from scratch.
00:04:33.780 Here's a picture of Brown.
00:04:34.960 There isn't too much information about him available.
00:04:37.080 He raised millions of dollars.
00:04:39.320 He's tied in with Teal.
00:04:40.460 He has New York Times articles written about it, but somehow you can't find much out about his background.
00:04:46.940 But he has some very interesting ties.
00:04:49.580 Praxis is a Teal-backed network state that aims to build its own nation.
00:04:55.300 In November, Praxis founder Dryan Brown wrote about him wanting Greenland for Praxis.
00:05:00.980 So here we get this tied into it.
00:05:02.360 Is this one of the reasons why Trump has been pivoting towards getting Greenland?
00:05:05.620 I don't know.
00:05:06.500 Maybe there's national security issues, but is this part of it?
00:05:08.920 Who knows?
00:05:09.840 He's tied into those same circles that I've warned about in the past, right?
00:05:14.540 In December, Trump named Teal partner Ken Howery as Denmark's ambassador and said that the U.S. should buy Greenland.
00:05:22.840 Praxis and Dryan, of course, are thrilled about this.
00:05:25.900 They said, according to plan in one of their tweets regarding this,
00:05:28.300 will this make it easier or more difficult to build a free city in Greenland?
00:05:33.620 And Dryan responded, say, way easier.
00:05:35.340 Peter Thiel backs Praxis through Pronomos Capital.
00:05:39.960 Praxis raises $19 million from FDX is listed at the top.
00:05:45.640 Remember Sam Bankman Freid?
00:05:47.600 I think it was Freed, technically, but I like to call him Freid.
00:05:50.120 Who is currently in jail because of his swindling, you know, Jewish tactics, essentially.
00:05:55.760 But that also includes funds from Pronomos Capital, Paradigm, and Alameda for futuristic city projects.
00:06:04.440 Backers of Pronomos include Peter Thiel and Balaij Sanrivesian.
00:06:09.420 Now, Balaij leads the Network State Movement and wrote a book titled The Network State, How to Start a New Country.
00:06:17.300 And Balaij's book was blurred by tech billionaire Mark Andreessen, who is advising Elon Musk's Doge.
00:06:24.580 Very interesting connections here, right?
00:06:26.420 Mark Andreessen is recruiting and interviewing staff for Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiencies.
00:06:31.840 Yeah, this is all AI, tech bros, Silicon Valley.
00:06:34.940 They're building new nations now.
00:06:36.520 They're building robotics.
00:06:37.520 They're getting ready to replace you.
00:06:39.260 They're rehauling everything with society.
00:06:42.380 Ties into the Greenland aspirations, potentially.
00:06:45.020 Continues here in the thread.
00:06:45.880 Peter Thiel, city-building startup Praxis, has raised $15 million in Series A funding from a variety of crypto venture firms led by Paradigm Capital, Sam Bankman-Fried's Alameda Research, and Three Arrows Capital.
00:06:59.660 Praxis is also backed by Pronomos Venture Capital, where Andreessen is reportedly an investor.
00:07:05.580 Interesting.
00:07:05.940 And PayPal mafia member Ken Harry, who Trump named as ambassador to Denmark, remains one of four general partners at Founders Fund.
00:07:14.680 The venture capitalist firm that he launched with Peter Thiel, Luke Nuzik, following PayPal's acquisition back in 2002.
00:07:22.640 Now, these people are warning about them from a left-wing perspective, which makes this even more funny because they call them right-wingers all the time.
00:07:29.440 What it really is, is basically like a libertarian state, essentially, and there's no racial component.
00:07:35.660 It's interesting, they tie in, like, the West and reviving the West and things like that in much of their writings and in their tweets.
00:07:42.480 I'm talking about Praxis now, specifically.
00:07:44.820 But there's nothing about preserving ethnic groups and, you know, things like this.
00:07:49.000 In fact, it will be what it looks like at this point, a multi-racial, you know, intensely deracinated digital nation, at least initially.
00:07:56.740 But they are looking at buying property in the Mediterranean to actually start building this city of theirs.
00:08:02.460 Dryden recently pledged allegiance to the flag of the nation of Praxis.
00:08:06.400 They printed out, like, passports and, like, these little membership cards and things like that.
00:08:10.720 They run a magazine, all kinds of things.
00:08:12.740 And kind of playing on some of these memes, meme culture, broligarchs reinvented feudalism.
00:08:19.980 I don't know, it's very interesting the way that they, it's almost like that they're playing into this natural kind of opposition that seems to be occurring, a grassroots opposition of, like, reviving the West or whatnot.
00:08:34.700 But now they're offering you this synthetic false version of this where basically, potentially, a lot of people can be, you know, attracted, I guess, to it because some of the aesthetics.
00:08:47.240 I'm not sure it will work the way they think they will, but regardless, they're trying.
00:08:51.580 It's very interesting.
00:08:52.640 So Praxis is a, you know, proposed city at this point.
00:08:56.100 But as I said, they have, they're now looking at building something in the Mediterranean with a population of about 10,000.
00:09:04.660 Brown has not yet to determine the location of the city and the company's vision has been called unrealistic.
00:09:09.560 As of April 2024, Praxis has stated that it has 2,034 citizens.
00:09:15.120 I think it was more on their website now.
00:09:16.520 124 companies and that companies founded by Praxis members have an aggregated valuation of, check this out, $452 billion.
00:09:25.000 I'm not sure if that's hyped or what it is.
00:09:26.680 If this is some ludicrous option to attract people who are right-leaning and see the problems and then just, you know, make it, you know, it's another FTX thing.
00:09:37.820 Basically, bubble, raise funds, scam it, but then kind of a, I don't know.
00:09:42.320 It's too early to tell, but it's very, very interesting.
00:09:44.020 I think that's, you shouldn't underestimate them, though, because I think they genuinely want to do something like this.
00:09:49.300 It would basically put a nail in this idea that nations can somehow kind of restore to their former status, right, that they can be taken back by the native populations in these lands.
00:10:00.460 Because now you'd basically have different economic zones.
00:10:03.680 You'd have different AI-founded projects that have their now legal authority.
00:10:08.540 They have executive rights.
00:10:09.740 They have the rights like nation does.
00:10:12.300 It will be digital first.
00:10:13.680 They'll be recognized by some digital authority or whatnot.
00:10:16.260 But since they're seeking to actually build physical locations, it might very well turn into something else.
00:10:22.360 But then all of a sudden you're ending up in this situation where basically if you would want to reclaim some of these areas,
00:10:28.000 if these projects like this take off enough, and if there's enough of these cities, let's call them that initially,
00:10:35.820 in territories that have been purchased in countries that belong to, let's say, Europeans, ethnic Europeans,
00:10:44.340 now all of a sudden the nation-state will not, you know, kind of allow you to reclaim these lands.
00:10:49.820 It's a way to undo the drive to basically restore our nations.
00:10:55.720 So let's talk about this guy for a little bit, Balai Srinjavazan, whatever his name is.
00:11:00.220 He is a former chief technology officer at Coinbase.
00:11:06.060 He is a partner at the venture capital firm Andreessen Horwitz.
00:11:09.900 And it's funny that this guy is weaved into this, like, let's restore, you know, Western values.
00:11:15.320 And they're using images of, like, aesthetics of, like, them grabbing the snake, you know,
00:11:19.280 from, like, German turn-of-the-century, you know, romantic, you know, art and things like this.
00:11:24.420 It's very bizarre.
00:11:26.080 If you look up in the dictionary of, like, a deracinated individual, it'd be this guy, right?
00:11:30.220 He married some Asian.
00:11:31.620 His parents moved from Sri Lanka, the Tamil region in India, essentially.
00:11:35.420 But they're still calling him, like, in some of these mainstream papers about this, a right-winger.
00:11:40.680 And there was an article going back to 2013 already where they seeded some of these ideas, right?
00:11:45.060 Software is reorganizing the world.
00:11:47.860 When cloud formations take physical shape, neither their scale nor duration has an upper bound.
00:11:53.120 We may begin to see cloud towns and then cloud cities and ultimately cloud countries.
00:12:01.280 At first, this sounds rather implausible.
00:12:03.240 Perhaps the internet will spur a wave of internal migrations as online communities begin gathering in person.
00:12:11.600 But could this process really lead to a new city or a country?
00:12:15.360 So this is over 10 years ago.
00:12:16.960 So let's play a clip to show you where they are at right now with these ideas and specifically what this idea of the network state is.
00:12:24.180 And they compare it, of course, to, like, decentralized blockchains like Bitcoin.
00:12:28.240 But as a way to organize people that I think then have common ideological bonds.
00:12:34.060 But, of course, there will be nothing racial about this.
00:12:37.240 Are new countries even possible, right?
00:12:41.180 We start new companies like Google.
00:12:42.920 We start new communities like Facebook.
00:12:44.660 We start new currencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum.
00:12:47.340 Can we start new countries?
00:12:48.140 That's the concept of the network state.
00:12:50.420 And I wrote a book on this idea.
00:12:51.880 You guys might have heard of it.
00:12:52.740 And here's a visual of that theory.
00:12:53.960 Here's a visual of the concept.
00:12:55.120 If Bitcoin is a decentralized currency, the network state is a decentralized country, right?
00:12:59.960 Where it's got the population of a country, but it's all distributed around the world rather than concentrated in one place.
00:13:05.420 Just like the nodes of Bitcoin are all around the world rather than in one place.
00:13:08.760 And how do you build something like this?
00:13:10.560 Well, you can actually, there's a path to get to the cloud country to go from, you know, not just zero to one, but one to one million.
00:13:16.860 Here's an example.
00:13:17.660 If there was a Satoshi in Japan, okay, living in a building by themselves, if they can build a community of, let's say, 17 people and then 172, they start getting rooms together, start, you know, renting together.
00:13:33.120 Eventually, they have enough money to start crowdfunding buildings or floors.
00:13:36.880 Eventually, they have enough money in scale at 17,000 to get maybe little cul-de-sacs or suburbs or what have you.
00:13:42.520 And going up another order in magnitude, they're actually at the scale of a very small UN-listed country.
00:13:48.020 And one more, at 1,729,314 people, it's a cloud country somewhere between Latvia and Bahrain, okay, in terms of its size and scale in population and income and real estate footprint, okay?
00:14:00.020 So this is the concept.
00:14:01.500 Nothing here violates any laws of physics.
00:14:04.080 It's just using internet technologies we already have, like crowdfunding and social networking and, you know, VR and Zoom and all this type of stuff.
00:14:10.960 The parallel establishment, okay?
00:14:13.800 So imagine 1,000 different startups, each of them replacing a different legacy institution.
00:14:19.340 So, for example, at the top, there's San Francisco, and we're replacing San Francisco both with things outside it, like cul-de-sac in Arizona and Prospera in South America and Cabin, which is in Texas but also around the world.
00:14:31.480 And the neighborhood SF is actually fixing San Francisco from within SF, right?
00:14:35.220 So you can have the Satoshi strategy of going outside or the Satya Nadella strategy of reforming within.
00:14:40.640 Either Satoshi or Satya is fine, so long as you're not Steve, who says it ain't even broke.
00:14:44.340 Steve Ballmer, okay.
00:14:45.500 So San Francisco, replace San Francisco with these startup, you know, societies.
00:14:51.160 Then in the middle is Harvard, right?
00:14:52.900 We're going to take out Harvard, and we have parallel education.
00:14:56.460 That's Repli, that's Synthesis, which is K-12, but it's also AI tutoring.
00:15:00.120 The Teal Fellowship of Merchant Ventures, you're going to hear from some of the founders of these today.
00:15:03.680 And then the last row there is another example.
00:15:05.640 We replace media with parallel media.
00:15:08.440 It's Twitter and X, it's Substack.
00:15:10.400 You're going to hear from the author of The Great Lady Wing today and many other people doing parallel media, okay?
00:15:14.480 And so this concept of the parallel establishment, if you take up all of these new institutional replacements on the right-hand side,
00:15:21.660 together, that's a parallel establishment.
00:15:23.920 They exist alongside the legacy in parallel.
00:15:26.440 They're gaining strength.
00:15:27.260 They're pulling away users until they become the new thing.
00:15:29.880 So this is how we turn that seemingly impossible thing of building a new country,
00:15:33.800 break into a bunch of individual startups, and then aggregate them together.
00:15:37.440 There's two parts of the parallel establishment.
00:15:39.560 There's the parallel societies, okay?
00:15:41.400 And these are the physical societies, right?
00:15:43.920 These are the first part of today's conference is about these,
00:15:47.560 to show that this is actually physical and real, okay?
00:15:49.760 You're going to see about a dozen of these physical startup societies.
00:15:53.240 There's Cul-de-sac in Arizona.
00:15:55.220 There's Prospera, as I mentioned, in South America.
00:15:57.760 There's Cabin in Texas.
00:15:58.420 But these are actually decentralized.
00:15:59.780 They plan to do nodes elsewhere.
00:16:00.920 That's just their first nodes, okay?
00:16:02.600 They're all kind of network cities or network societies that are setting up little nodes around the world.
00:16:08.960 And so this is how we build Internet-first physical infrastructure.
00:16:12.580 We've got Internet-first communities that are recruited from the Internet.
00:16:15.120 These are the kinds of places.
00:16:16.760 Cul-de-sac, for example, is like a remote-optimized city.
00:16:18.960 Like, if you built a normal city with roads for the daily commute, what would a remote-optimized city look like if it was built for remote workers?
00:16:25.460 You totally rethink all the architecture.
00:16:27.020 It's walkable.
00:16:27.800 You don't have cars everywhere.
00:16:28.880 The cars are on the outside.
00:16:30.180 They're self-driving.
00:16:30.920 It rethinks every piece of the infrastructure.
00:16:32.820 And these startup societies are doing things like that, okay?
00:16:36.120 So these are the parallel societies.
00:16:38.100 And the other piece of the puzzle are the parallel institutions, okay?
00:16:41.060 So you can always think of it as like a vertical strategy of building a new city in place.
00:16:45.600 And a horizontal strategy of replacing media and education and finance, okay?
00:16:51.080 And those two are complementary, the vertical and the horizontal.
00:16:54.720 So the second part of today's conference is about the parallel institutions.
00:16:59.200 Here, you know, these are the new New York Times' and Harvard's, the new Supreme Courts and Wall Street's.
00:17:03.640 It's Internet-first versions of medicine and law and media and education and finance and even science itself, a DSI.
00:17:10.760 This example on the right is for parallel education.
00:17:16.100 So Replit has 20 million Replit developers.
00:17:18.380 It's transforming computer science education worldwide.
00:17:20.780 Synthesis, AI tutoring.
00:17:22.740 So you'll be able to scale tutoring.
00:17:25.040 And the Thiel Fellowship, you know, Thiel's unicorn success is awkward for colleges.
00:17:29.940 Who wouldn't want to live in a tech startup nation?
00:17:33.480 How about that?
00:17:34.340 Just let's do the venture capitalists of a nation.
00:17:38.500 I don't know, there's just something with this which is so, just, I don't know.
00:17:43.380 I mean, as I said, it's Venus Project Revisited, but it's tech at the center and AI and all this stuff.
00:17:50.800 And it's just, it's a fucking nightmare.
00:17:54.400 Why?
00:17:54.820 Because, of course, they will not take, as I said, race into it.
00:17:58.560 This is just like whatever libertarian idea that happens to, like, please your bottom line more.
00:18:05.020 I don't know.
00:18:05.520 It's just like, well, it's something with AI and, you know, we do startups and we'll do these apps and internet decentralized crypto.
00:18:14.480 Anyway, the thing, though, is that I want to focus a little bit on here beyond the nightmarish example of, like, how they're now then walk, totally walking away from what the concept of what a nation actually is.
00:18:25.540 They're trying to push it as like it's a right wing thing.
00:18:28.700 So Mother Jones was going a little bit lighter here, right?
00:18:31.680 A Peter Thiel-linked startup is courting New York censors and plotting a libertarian paradise.
00:18:38.240 At least they call it a libertarian, right?
00:18:39.780 The Praxis Society envisions a Mediterranean enclave with just the right kind of people.
00:18:46.460 And, of course, to capitalize the R there because they're alluding to this, right?
00:18:49.520 The New York Times went a little further.
00:18:51.220 Who would give this guy millions to build his own utopia?
00:18:53.960 Dryden Brown wants practice to be a crypto city for tech bros and tastemakers.
00:18:59.520 You can see how many times they mention here these are right wing influencers.
00:19:03.780 Internal Praxis Branding Guide makes it clear that the company is part of a creepy internet subculture that has drawn reams of news media coverage as a fascist breeding ground with the American right.
00:19:15.280 They dropped Curtis Yarwin in some of these articles being linked to it.
00:19:18.700 Remember the Dark Enlightenment and it turns out of all these kind of Zionist Jews were tied into that.
00:19:22.840 Even like Dave Rubin and the Weinstein brothers and things like this.
00:19:27.060 All these people are tied into some of these ideas, right?
00:19:29.980 Finance, AI, PayPal mafia.
00:19:33.280 These preoccupations place Mr. Brown within a nebulous group of right wing influencers who practice a sort of mood board politics.
00:19:41.180 Bronze Age pervert was dropped in there.
00:19:42.840 Another Jew, right?
00:19:43.600 Curtis Yarwin there it is, right?
00:19:45.140 Right wing writer.
00:19:46.340 They even mentioned some of the books, right?
00:19:48.020 Oh, he's reading Evola.
00:19:50.140 It's like, wait a minute.
00:19:51.280 This is what, this is a gay op.
00:19:55.480 This is a gay op.
00:19:56.460 Look at this.
00:19:57.080 Reclaim the West.
00:19:58.480 This is how you reclaim the West.
00:20:00.560 You build a tech city transhumanist that has nothing to do with race, but somehow it's Western values.
00:20:06.960 If you have time, guys, look through the Praxis website.
00:20:09.240 Look, maybe it's nothing.
00:20:11.300 But here it is.
00:20:11.980 They claim they have 87, you know, thousands internet citizens already, right?
00:20:16.520 Almost a 922 billion race, not race, but valuation of like all these people are tied to it.
00:20:22.940 Look at this tweet here, for example, here.
00:20:24.400 Western civilization is regaining its vitality.
00:20:27.160 Can you feel it?
00:20:28.640 And this is the video here.
00:20:29.440 Look at this, look at this.
00:20:31.880 Look at this.
00:20:46.480 Look at this.
00:20:46.980 So they're playing, they're playing on this, like a subculture of ultimately like national socialism here, tied in with all these like tech Jews.
00:21:00.280 It's insane, right?
00:21:02.300 I went to Greenland to try to buy it, to meet the founder who wants to recreate Mars on Earth.
00:21:08.000 Here we go with the Musk obsession with Mars or something like that.
00:21:11.300 And of course, it reminds me of like the ultimate Jewish melting pot, essentially, where you have no racial definition.
00:21:17.360 Anybody can join whatever nation.
00:21:19.080 They can jump ship.
00:21:19.840 They can join this other hub or whatever.
00:21:21.440 It's just that now nation and ethnos have been replaced with like tech startups, essentially.
00:21:26.640 They like that nationalist European aesthetic.
00:21:30.040 It's irresistible.
00:21:31.060 But yeah, as you're talking about this, I'm thinking, OK, jump in the video games, get in the matrix, don't get out.
00:21:37.740 And and really what they're doing, it's a form of a secessionist movement.
00:21:41.680 Well, no, what we need is to do it for real, not living digitally in some digital cul-de-sac.
00:21:47.440 We need to take our countries back and have, you know, our our real parallel society of white people.
00:21:54.640 And that's I remember years ago we were talking about that, forming a parallel society of white folks who are like minded, who one day will take their countries back.
00:22:04.200 What about, you know, they talk about opting into these communities.
00:22:07.560 Well, how are you going to opt out of the United States of America?
00:22:11.720 How's that going to work?
00:22:13.020 And also, all of this is fine.
00:22:15.000 But what happens when you want to have a white nationalist parallel society or a white nationalist digital community or parallel institutions?
00:22:23.260 Right.
00:22:23.780 Well, you you you can't.
00:22:25.660 And and this this is them cock blocking us from actually getting to those things that.
00:22:31.320 So, yes, you're right.
00:22:32.680 There's been enough rumors of parallel societies.
00:22:35.480 Well, here here it is.
00:22:37.240 Here it is.
00:22:37.680 And here it is.
00:22:38.160 And when I see what's horrible about this is it just splits up and divides, let's face it, white people even more, because that's who's going to go for this.
00:22:46.420 Mostly it's going to be mostly white people are going to be like, oh, yeah, this is cool.
00:22:49.680 Let's do it.
00:22:50.280 Right.
00:22:50.560 So it's, you know, breaking apart white unity and Asian mixed in there.
00:22:54.580 And it will be.
00:22:54.980 But you know, it's not going to be a lot of white guys.
00:22:57.120 Yeah.
00:22:57.340 No, it's not.
00:22:58.200 Possibly.
00:22:58.860 They're very smart and they're very clever.
00:23:01.120 And again, it might amount to nothing.
00:23:02.860 But eventually it's going to come.
00:23:04.320 And this is why, like, the Facebook's already have their own Supreme Court or whatever.
00:23:07.480 And I talked about this years ago now, like they're going to do, they're going to, they're going to offer us digital citizenship and stuff like that.
00:23:13.900 And this is what this is.
00:23:14.940 It's fake.
00:23:15.240 There's no blood.
00:23:15.900 There's no soil here.
00:23:16.980 No, that's just it.
00:23:17.740 Exactly.
00:23:18.100 It's all matrix imaginary world.
00:23:20.660 But it's fascinating that they're playing on this Western aesthetics kind of thing.
00:23:26.040 Yeah, like reclaim the West by forming a tech startup in a small hub in the Mediterranean.
00:23:33.720 Initially, they looked at Africa.
00:23:35.640 Brown went to, Drayden Brown had went to Africa.
00:23:39.220 He made some comments about how he felt unsettled there because of he was white.
00:23:43.440 And then, of course, the New York Times articles and everything is like, oh, he's a, he's neocolonialist, you know, kind of views and shit like this.
00:23:50.280 Right.
00:23:50.880 But no, this, this is, this is coming.
00:23:53.280 And it's coming together with the ascent of artificial intelligence and AI robotics.
00:23:58.940 And they're going to try it.
00:23:59.780 And if this is not the one that succeeds, it will be another one tomorrow.
00:24:02.260 But there's something to watch out for.
00:24:03.760 I, I, look, I still think the idea sound that you can form something, but, but, but at the end of the day.
00:24:10.060 In real life.
00:24:11.260 No, but they're doing, so they're doing that too, as the, as he explained in the clip, that it was, the goal of it is to take it from the.
00:24:17.700 Yeah.
00:24:18.320 They're building.
00:24:19.280 From digital into the real world eventually.
00:24:20.440 The funds and the means on the internet.
00:24:22.820 Right.
00:24:23.360 First, decentralized.
00:24:24.640 But then eventually they have a goal of bringing these people to an actual physical location.
00:24:28.260 So it is an intentional community.
00:24:29.600 But the difference is they're doing it with the backing of some of the wealthiest people on the planet.
00:24:35.900 Corporations.
00:24:36.300 The New York Times and Vanity Fair and Wired and Mother Jones and all these people are like, oh my God, here's this.
00:24:43.740 Do you see, do you see now the success or the strategy of taking some real genuine right-wing ideas, offering you a simulacrum, a fake version of it, a watered down version?
00:24:57.260 It's never going to amount to anything that we want to aspire to ultimately, I think.
00:25:01.640 Definitely not if the racial, the ethnic component is not there.
00:25:04.800 But then selling it to you as this is the right-wing version of it, while it actually isn't, right?
00:25:09.980 Because otherwise, okay, if they're Evola, fascist.
00:25:13.240 If it's multicultural, it's not.
00:25:16.000 So it's not going to be.
00:25:17.280 And there's so many of these same usual suspects tie into it.
00:25:19.820 So anyway, I don't know, I find it fascinating that they're trying so hard.
00:25:23.380 But if it's true that they have millions of dollars behind them.
00:25:25.320 That's what's amazing to me, that they're able to raise $20 million for this?
00:25:29.220 Yeah, some tech bro.
00:25:31.220 What's your business plan?
00:25:32.480 I'd like to see that.
00:25:33.920 No, it's just something with AI.
00:25:35.460 It's like nuclear technology in the 50s or something.
00:25:38.020 I mean, it's not that it's unrealistic.
00:25:40.000 AI is already doing things.
00:25:41.360 It has a massive impact and all that stuff, right?
00:25:43.300 But it's just like this.
00:25:44.220 It's just something that it's a venture capitalist startup.
00:25:48.760 And we'll just do our own nations.
00:25:50.300 And then the left is like, oh my God, it's authoritarian, you know, kind of thing.
00:25:54.020 And look, go and do your own thing.
00:25:56.260 But the point is, if you give these types of ideas enough legal rights and rights for
00:26:02.720 them to actually buy up land, it won't be, it's going to be much harder for us to reclaim
00:26:09.780 those pieces of land that belongs rightfully to the native populations in those land, as
00:26:14.000 opposed to turning it into this AI tech zone, where basically now you don't have any legal
00:26:18.660 rights to, oh no, it's a private and you can't touch that.
00:26:21.000 And now we're losing geography and land and soil ultimately.
00:26:25.240 And people.
00:26:26.080 To, you know, to train.
00:26:28.220 I mean, they will do the transhumanist stuff eventually as well.
00:26:30.800 But anyway, something to keep an eye on because you'll see this evolve tremendously over the
00:26:35.140 next couple of years.
00:26:36.060 And if they have millions behind them, unfortunately, they'll actually be able to do some stuff with
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