Do Or Die For Israel, The Zionist Project In Dire Straits? - Warren Balogh
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1 hour and 28 minutes
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177.93475
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143
Summary
In this episode of the Alt-Right Matters podcast, I'm joined by long-time interviewer and host of the show "Modern Politics" Eric Stryker. We talk about what it's like being on the alt-right in the 90s and early 2000s, and talk about the early days of NJP and Modern Politics. We also talk about why Modern Politics is now on hiatus, and what it means for the future of this show.
Transcript
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It's great to see you back doing the long-form interviews.
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That brings back a lot of nostalgia, a lot of people that you introduced me to back in
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You know, right around the day, you know, right around the day, you know, right around the
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day, you know, right around the alt-right was really taking off 2014, 15, 16.
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That was a great, that was a great period, and I was a great period, and I was a great period,
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and I always thought you were a fantastic interviewer, so thanks for having me on.
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I've been enjoying your and Emily's work immensely as well, obviously, throughout the years, NJP,
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you know, everything, you know, with that, and you've moved on, and so many others from there
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And I know we might talk about later, but modern politics is currently under hiatus,
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and there's, you know, reasons for that, obviously.
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And also, by the way, to the audience, I could say that regarding Odyssey overall, that I'm
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And I'm thinking of just, I don't know, I'm thinking about dropping it.
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They're just going to have some alternative payment system and stuff, and we had a, you
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know, good amount of members, as you guys, you know, did on there too, and then
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just, boom, essentially, well, we had that phase, right?
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It was like, questions, we submitted questions, it was fine, and then like two weeks later,
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Yes, and I'll just get that out of the way at the beginning, that modern politics will
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Emily and I are going to be relaunching it sometime in June.
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But yeah, as you say, we had, over two years, we had built up a subscriber base.
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We had at least over 500 subscribers, and only through Odyssey, unlike you guys with the
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paywall and website and everything, we were just Odyssey only.
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So when that happened, you know, that wiped out our subscriber base, and so we're looking
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at options for, you know, making it so that we can still afford to do the show.
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I wish I could just do it for free, but it's too much work to do for free.
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But we might, we're trying to get it out on more platforms.
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We're looking at different ways we can paywall it, and I'm also just, Emily's doing a
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I'm, I'm writing more for my sub stack and a couple of other projects, but the show
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will be back, so everybody knows, but you can still catch me every Thursday on War
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Strike on Rumble and Odyssey, and that's at 8 p.m.
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Eastern every, with my, with my colleague, Eric Stryker, aka Joe Jordan.
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So, so yeah, I'll, I know we normally do that at the end, but I'll plug it.
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I wanted to ask you about it anyway, because I'm, you know, we're in the same boat, and
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you know, I want to find out what people are looking at as, at options.
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I'm not doing the YouTube mistake again, right, to put all your eggs kind of in one
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I mean, we were on some other platforms, but then you run the risk as now with Odyssey,
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and as I'm thinking like, okay, Rumble is a stable, there's suspicious, you know, ownership,
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And it's just a wonderful platform, so I, as you say, I hope, I hope they can get their
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act together with this alternate platform, because I would like to continue using Odyssey
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as our main, as our main, as our main platform.
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But, but yeah, I remember, I think it was like 2018, there was this weird period where
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there was some censorship, but not all, and I think you guys were still on YouTube for
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Um, but a lot of people had been censored off, and then you guys got the axe.
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I remember when that happened, I think it was 2018.
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Um, and, uh, yeah, but it's, it's now, it's still pretty, uh, pretty total from what I understand.
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I just don't know why they can't do another payment.
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They don't have to just rely on Stripe, you know, but anyway, that's it.
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Ultimately, they were going to do some options there, but we'll see what, we'll see what
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It's good to have multiple outlets and platforms, obviously, that way you can, you know, spread
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So if something happens, you can just shift over.
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So anyway, guys, we're going to spend a little bit of time here.
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I do want to, I do want to get, kind of pick Warren's brain here because these are some,
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among some of the topics that he covers, uh, regularly, I follow his telegram and I see it
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Uh, not just Israel, you know, Judaism, Zionism, the Zionist project and things like this,
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but, you know, kind of this interesting rumination we heard, I forget what it is now, like a
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month ago or something like that of the supposed split right between Netanyahu and Trump and
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And, you know, putting it in context, obviously we do have, as I said, kind of in the opening
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a, a decline among the support specifically among the younger demographic and also should
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recognize a browner demographic, a more non-white demographic.
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And so you do have that kind of dynamic of like, look, it's like Israel is a white supremacist
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And so you have this kind of default position that then it must be bad, right?
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And therefore that's, you know, part of the reason at least of why they see the split.
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But at the same time, since October 7th, it has been a shit storm for them and the kind
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Um, so I'm wondering what your take on this is, if this is just a theater, is it lip service?
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Is this something temporary because of deals with Gulf States and Saudis and all that stuff?
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It's a lot to unpack there, but give us your overview on this of like, how do you see
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this or how do you saw it unfolded when we saw this?
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Um, people need to remember, first of all, um, that the Trump administration, I think
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is the most image conscious administration that we've ever seen.
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I mean, they truly are a social media savvy, um, outfit, especially this 2024 administration.
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And, uh, you know, the Trump administration is filled with literal, uh, wrestling executives,
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I mean, these are people who have made billions and billions and billions by staging fake fights
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and by ginning up emotion, you know, and getting people worked up for fake fights.
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I mean, for them, it's, it's not a hobby, it's a profession and it's something that they're
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Trump also, you know, I've read the art of the deal.
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And even though it was ghostwritten for him, a lot of his principles and, and, and his operating
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So if you read the art of the deal and Trump is a hype man and he's very good at it, I
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But yeah, this is a, another case where we're handing out fell for it again awards.
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Uh, if you look at, you know, the one example I had sent you earlier was the pivot.
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The last time we saw Trump do this was about a week before the election and people forget
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this, but, um, if you remember Biden had been very, you know, all in on Israel's genocide
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and Kamala was sort of walking this fine line where she was paying some small amount of lip
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service to the, uh, young people and the others in her party because they were afraid they
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were going to lose voters, particularly in Michigan, um, because Dearborn, the Dearborn
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It's a critical, uh, state was a swing state for the Democrats.
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And that's of course where Rashida Tlaib is the elected representative and try as they
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might, AIPAC has not been able to unseat her because she has an ethnic base there that's
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loyal to her in Dearborn, um, vote for, uh, Jill Stein in the, in the, uh, Green party was
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very high there, but also a lot of these people voted for Donald Trump.
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And in that last week, Trump actually appeared on stage with Muslim Americans.
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And he's just, you know, he's very good at signaling what people want to believe.
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He knows how to play into people's hopes and fantasies.
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He's, he has a killer instinct for you want this.
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And as soon as the election was over, it was right back.
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I mean, Netanyahu was his first guest in the white house and people act surprised, but I
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mean, this is something Trump's been doing literally his entire career.
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Um, so I think that, you know, we've had countless examples of that, even in the last, uh, few
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months, I've almost said six months, but it's only, it hasn't even been, has it even been
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I don't think it, no, no, just about four, four.
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Well, I mean, it's five, five months now where he may, um, he's done this so many times.
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And, uh, what I, what I worry about, so there's two possibilities with this, uh, with what's
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First of all, yes, he just started to play up this supposed split with Israel a few days
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And these countries, you know, they have their own people to worry about.
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Um, you know, one I've been keeping a very close eye on is Egypt because Egypt is under
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a very, very tight control by Sisi, but the Egyptian people hate Israel and they want to
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And they also, you know, Egypt is Israel's natural enemy in the region, even more so than
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I mean, geopolitically, uh, Egypt is the natural like leader of the Arab States.
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And, uh, even though there's been a very tight control ever since they cracked down, you
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know, they, they, after the Arab spring, uh, the reason why Sisi doesn't want to take
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in 2.4 million Palestinians out of Gaza, or the reason why the King Abdullah in Jordan
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doesn't want to take them in is because they don't want their regimes to topple, uh, you
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know, that, that could cause so much unrest and so much, if they sign off on this genocide
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or if they bring such an influx of radicalized people into their country, uh, Jordan is already
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So the same is true, not just that quite that extent, but the same is true also of the
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I mean, you know, Saudi Arabia is where, uh, most of the nine 11 hijackers came from.
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I mean, there are plenty of Saudis who would love to topple the Saudi Royal family and institute
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a government that's very, you know, anti-American and anti-Israel.
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So, so Trump had to put some distance between himself and Israel before he makes this trip.
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And you know that it was coordinated because you saw it from all these other people who are
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lifelong Israel shills, like Mike Huckabee, who is a fanatic, who really literally believes
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that the Jews are, I would say he, he actually goes further instead of believing the Jews are
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No, I, I, I think some of this Christian so-called Christian evangelicalism is not even, it's not
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even thinking that it's, it's making an idol out of the Jewish race.
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You are a Jew, Jewish person, therefore you are basically the personification of God.
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That's at least Mike Huckabee's espoused views many times.
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And a guy like Marco Rubio, who's completely a creation of the Adelsons and of this, I mean,
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So to see these guys suddenly saying, well, we don't need Israel's permission and Israel's
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not, you know, Israel doesn't make our policy for us.
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And now, so the, the real question is, was this just to cut some deals or is this, is
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Is he, is Trump putting distance between himself and Israel publicly specifically because they
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The plan is still to have some kind of a war with Iran.
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And I think the chances are greater than 50% that that's actually what's going on here.
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And, and the last thing I'll just say on that is people need to know their history.
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Something I go on and on about on my shows is the history of the two world wars.
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If you look at Woodrow Wilson, he ran on the slogan and you can look it up and find the
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little pins that people wore when they were Wilson supporters.
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That's when he won his reelection on, we kept us out of war.
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And FDR won basically, uh, on the idea that he was not going to get us involved in the
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So America has a history of some of the worst presidents getting us into wars are the ones
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that signaled the loudest against war prior to that.
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So the problem for, uh, the Jews, uh, world Jewry, as it were with this war, unlike the
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Like I was, I was an anti-war activist back then.
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I was writing letters to my paper about how the neocons were all Jewish.
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Richard Pearl, Douglas Feith, Wormser, Wolfowitz back then.
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But, but in 2002, 2003, I'm sure you remember, um, the, the public at large was not aware
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that the Iraq war was a Jewish war, that it was an Israeli war, that that's why we were
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And that it was all these Israeli Zionist Jews that were behind the Iraq war.
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They hate our freedoms, freedom fries, George Bush support our troops.
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The problem they have after October 7th is that it's everyone.
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I mean, every child can see that this is a Jewish conflict specifically.
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Um, and that if we go to war with Iran, everyone's going to say, we're only doing it for Israel.
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The same way we said that, if they said that about this attack on the Houthis, this failed
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So if they are going to go in the direction of war with Iran, which I think is absolutely
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A lot of young people today, a lot of young people today don't remember this, this cast
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schools, these learned elders, but, um, but yeah, so I think that's what's happening.
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And, uh, I predict we are going to be in some kind of military conflict with Iran, maybe
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not boots on the ground, but the U S is going to be striking Iran, I think within the year.
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Uh, and, and I think all the rest of this is just to put some distance between us and
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somehow spin it, make it so that it's not directly just us doing Israel's bidding.
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Um, and I wonder what, you know, time seems to be of the essence here as well, because
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they are losing some, and whatever reasons that it, for that is, and we can talk about
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They're getting desperate, which makes them even more dangerous to a certain extent.
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I mean, neocons, do they, obviously they hold all power.
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I'm not saying they don't, but I'm saying you're seeing people also kind of more openly
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did, you know, discussing this and talking about this to a certain extent.
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Um, and, and as that happens and that's gets more and more popular, popularized, I think
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that wasn't this one of the reasons like Laura Loomer called Tucker Carlson, Tucker, uh,
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You want to hear my theory on the Katari thing?
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Well, I think it's some kind of, I think it's some kind of, uh, absurd humiliation ritual
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It's so ridiculous and such a stupid line that they're saying it, they're making their
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little stooges say it to just like humiliate themselves by repeating it to prove their loyalty
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I mean, I'm kind of kidding on that, but it's such a, it's such an absurd, goofy position.
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You remember that that was early on with Tim Pool, with that whole thing, when he had
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And, uh, and then it was leaked that he was meeting and he's like, well, what I was doing
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was I was, I was trying to warn, you know, president Netanyahu, prime minister Netanyahu.
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I was trying to warn him about the sinister, nefarious Katari.
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They're, they're, they're, they're pivoting towards it though.
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Conservative media targeted by Katari foreign influence operations.
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And then of course, you know, you do have to put this in historical context of basically
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when Hamas actually was propped up by, uh, Netanyahu, Likud, et cetera, just to basically,
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uh, you know, throw shade on the Palestinian authority.
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Or for years, the Katari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into Gaza,
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the Gaza strip money that helped to prop up the Hamas government there.
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Um, uh, prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, not only tolerated those payments,
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So it's just like, they're just, it feels like this fallback tactic of let's wheel out
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this old Katari thing again and Hamas, and they're in bed with each other and they're
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Because, I mean, a lot of the Gulf states too, as you brought up, they don't have any
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I mean, Egypt, as I saw before, the aid there, uh, and I know about the coups there
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and the Arab Spring and all that stuff, obviously, but just like, just to appease the, the puppets
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in Egypt, tons of money's going in there just to, to have them not like go to war with Israel
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I mean, I mean, the money that goes to Israel actually, uh, um, Stryker wrote an article
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about this, uh, years ago that, uh, where he totaled up all the, all the money that
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goes, uh, to Israel and, and you really have to count in to that the money that goes to
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countries like Egypt, because I mean, I think, yeah, Egypt is the second largest recipient
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of foreign aid and it is entirely to keep Egypt from, yes, to keep Israel.
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Because like I said, for many years, Egypt was Israel's chief geopolitical rival in the
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Um, so, uh, yeah, it's, it's, and you know, of course the, the U S and the Zionists have
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played off the nationalist Arabs versus Islamist Arabs.
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I mean, that's what really the whole Iran Iraq war was about.
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Um, and, and they've used this, uh, often and the, you know, you see it being done right
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Um, the, the left and the right, there's these gatekeepers.
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And I, I watch a lot of, I actually watch more left-wing media than right-wing media these
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Cause I, you know, the right-wing talking points, I know better.
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Um, but if you watch popular shows like, uh, like Jimmy Dore or, um, maybe, um, uh, breaking
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points, you know, with, um, Crystal and Sagar, there's always a Jew to come on to tell you
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And what you see, if you are, or democracy now, you know, with Amy Goodman, Amy Goodman,
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So the, the anti-Israel left in the West, two things about it.
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It, it is not a permitted to exist unless one, it has a Jewish face or a Jewish spokesman
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And two, unless it is paired with a kind of anti-white ideology.
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If you look at, uh, the actual people fighting Israel right now, like for instance, uh, Ansar
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Allah in, uh, Yemen, the Houthis, I mean, their flag says on it in Arabic, it says, uh, you
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That's one of the things it says in, in, in their flag.
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I mean, they, the, the, Ansar Allah and Hamas, they know, they know the problem is Jewish power.
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They know exactly where the roots of Zionism are.
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Now they're not white nationalists, but who would expect them to be, but they are, their
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problem, they know that their problem is with Jew, world Jew, Jewry, Jewish power in
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But any kind of pro-Gaza Palestinian thing in the West has to be, oh, well, we're, we're
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In fact, we have to gatekeep and keep the anti-Semites from infiltrating our movement.
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Well, then you see the same thing on the right, only it's in reverse on the right.
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It's more and more tacit pro-white stuff is being allowed as long as it's Zionist.
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And if you, if you, if you're against what Israel is doing now, you're a third worldist,
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you're, you're love the, you know, you love these Brown people.
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You're, you're for the, I mean, how about when, when great example is Tommy Robinson,
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uh, in, in the UK, when the, when the Southport stabbings happened and, uh, that was done by,
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Of course he was, he was a Somali born in Wales.
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And, uh, Tommy Robinson came out and actually said that the people in the streets were demonstrating
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because they were opposed to Hamas, not the fact that there's blacks in the UK stabbing little,
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little, little children, but because, uh, uh, the British people are out there in the streets
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So these gatekeepers on the left and the right.
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And what we see is they're trying to keep the confluence of these two positions coming together.
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You know, I saw people saying, uh, well, the white genocide in South Africa and then,
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you know, people, the left people will say, well, what about, what about Palestine?
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Why can't we talk about white genocide in South Africa and Palestinian genocide in Gaza?
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Because the same people are behind both ultimately.
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And same thing in Europe and they, and even the, all the conditions that they're now
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And on the streets of Europe where these, you know, Jews come out like, well, what, what's happening?
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Kind of thing, well, who's disproportionately behind in creating this type of situation?
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Who has lobbied for open borders, mass migration over the last few decades now, right?
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Having said that though, you do have, you know, an aspect of the fact that like many of them,
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most of the hardcore Zionists that want Jews to return to Israel, uh, it's almost like they
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Well, for one, they can get more money, they get more security.
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So there is a function, you know, to creating those types of conditions, but ultimately,
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They have a home, a homeland to actually return to while we don't.
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Uh, I, I do think though, I mean, you know, I'm a, I'm a big, uh, I'm a big, uh, national
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That's where I, that's, that's how I define myself politically.
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And, uh, the man himself, uh, who created that, that, that worldview wrote in his book
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and on several other occasions predicted what the Israeli state would be.
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He said that Zionism is not, is not actually designed to be a homeland for all the Jews
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in the world to go, but it's, it's set up to be a sort of world Jewish headquarters, which
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can train their people, their operatives, and can also shield and hide, um, the criminals,
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um, to go there and give them all the immunities and privileges of a sovereign state while still
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And that's the, that's really where you get it.
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The problem is not, I mean, the problem in a way is Zionism, but the real problem, what
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This is my push back to the leftists is to say, if you want to talk about the crimes of
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Zionism, but not the huge financial networks of hedge funds and, and private equity and
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the media masters, everybody in the West, the rich and powerful Jews in the West that
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keep this going, that have the stranglehold over Congress, for instance, then you're
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You're not actually attacking Zionism if you're not willing to touch that issue.
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Um, and, and then the, you know, again, we can then say it in reverse.
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If you are, say you're pro-white, but you give your blessing to this genocide in Palestine
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It's not, you know, I don't like the people who support Gaza.
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You know, I don't like those Pakistani grooming gangs.
00:30:33.820
So therefore I don't care what happens to the Palestinians.
00:30:35.740
Well, you are then siding with the people, as you said, who have brought those grooming
00:30:44.220
Uh, the people that have destroyed our civilization and control us here.
00:30:47.240
The other thing is we've seen this in the, before in the war on terror, they went from
00:30:51.180
the nineties, which were incredibly anti-white.
00:30:53.480
I mean, that was all the ideology in the nineties to on a dime.
00:30:57.700
They turned after 9-11 to American jingoism, super patriotism.
00:31:06.020
I was born in PA, but I grew up most of my life in West Virginia.
00:31:09.680
And, uh, this state had the highest percentage of, uh, people who served in the war on terror
00:31:16.340
Uh, I've, I've knew dozens of veterans who went over there.
00:31:20.660
And I know from a lot of guys who were white nationalists who said that all kinds of white
00:31:25.020
nationalist opinions were tolerated in the military during that period when it was okay
00:31:29.680
to, you know, when it was being weaponized against the Iraqis or the Afghans.
00:31:33.520
Um, we see them turn this on and off like a faucet, Henrik, as far as when it's okay to be racist
00:31:42.200
against Arabs, when we need white bodies come, you know, to go over the Middle East or white
00:31:56.220
Mark Zuckerberg came out and gave that video where he said, you know what?
00:32:00.020
Maybe we'll let people use the N word again on Facebook.
00:32:03.520
But we can't say, we can't let them, uh, you know, criticize Israel.
00:32:09.020
Um, people have to just not get played and not be fooled by this.
00:32:16.160
And if they're making concessions right now, it's because they need us.
00:32:19.560
So we should just push harder and harder and harder and be like a, like a, like a lover
00:32:24.940
that's impossible to please, you know, hard to get, play hard to get with the system.
00:32:29.480
I know you're not, you, you're, you're someone you're pretty good at holding the line
00:32:36.800
Trump, well, maybe this time he's changed this time.
00:32:45.000
Because I think you bring up a good point there.
00:32:47.900
Lukewarm, not even pro white takes necessarily, but at least exposing anti white hatred is
00:33:01.920
It's almost, the analogy I use is we're getting crumbs off the table.
00:33:09.280
At the same time, it does reflect this overall trend that I think there is a bottom up pressure
00:33:15.580
and, and, and yes, they're trying to appease to that.
00:33:20.800
They're saying, sure, you can have a little bit of this and whatnot.
00:33:22.800
As you said, the remedy to that, it just keep pushing, right?
00:33:26.340
And pushing and pushing and even harder and, and go at it, right?
00:33:29.240
But it is being allowed to a certain extent and there's a function on that, but, but it's
00:33:33.360
because they are forced to a certain extent to respond to it.
00:33:36.820
They, they probably see, yes, we can use them, rev up this kind of phony, you know, patron
00:33:47.000
We're like the pro white crowd now of sorts, right?
00:33:49.640
Um, possibly just to play, but they are responding to something.
00:33:55.960
And I think it's one of those, they could, they couldn't defeat it.
00:33:59.280
So they decided to join it and, and instead become the spokespeople for it.
00:34:08.940
You know, one of the things that you realize that this regime is, is, is failing is how fast
00:34:16.340
I mean, it used to be, they would, they would push in one direction for like a decade or
00:34:22.200
Uh, like with Reagan, for instance, Reagan was a return to sort of the pseudo white jingle.
00:34:27.120
And then of course, Reagan passes a big amnesty and, and privatization and everything.
00:34:31.020
But at the time Reagan got elected, a lot of people were thinking, you know, this is like
00:34:35.740
He's going to roll back all the stuff that we've had since the, you know, the mid sixties
00:34:40.080
through the seventies under LBJ and Carter and the rest of them.
00:34:43.420
Um, and then of course, Reagan just, you know, he basically privatized everything, gave the
00:34:47.720
economy over to the big capital and, and, but, but sort of baked into the cake, a lot
00:34:52.600
of the anti-white stuff, um, from that period that just became normalized in the Reagan era.
00:34:58.760
Um, and then they switch it after that 10 years or so of right-wing politics, it gets
00:35:03.980
back to the left and we, we get Clinton and then it goes back to the right.
00:35:07.080
And lately they've been switching it up a lot faster, much quicker because they're, the
00:35:13.720
It's their, their geopolitical power is not what it once was.
00:35:17.760
And frankly, Henrik, they have rotted out this society to such an extent through their
00:35:22.980
parasitism, stuff like the opioid epidemic, um, you know, the, the, uh, out of control,
00:35:29.580
uh, usury, making everyone into debt slaves, destroying the middle class.
00:35:33.560
And, and just the pushing the upper limits of what they can do with mass migration, uh,
00:35:42.240
They pushed it to such an extent that like, like, uh, like any over successful parasite,
00:35:50.020
Uh, this isn't the America even that fought the Iraq war, let alone the America that fought
00:35:56.060
I mean, in world war two, it was a segregated army.
00:35:57.960
People forget about that, but it was a completely, I mean, when the, when the, when the, when the
00:36:02.300
armies stormed the beaches of Normandy, I mean, they, they, these guys look whiter than the
00:36:05.960
Waffen SS, uh, when they, when they, when they attacked.
00:36:09.200
So they are sort of, they've killed, they're killing the goose that laid the golden eggs.
00:36:14.720
And particularly if you look at the anti-white agenda of the system, when Biden got in and
00:36:23.280
right before he got in during the peak of the George Floyd stuff, um, and, and tearing
00:36:29.000
down all the statues, um, that's when, when I think 2021 was sort of the peak of this war
00:36:36.100
on whites and they had their whole perfect cast of characters to prosecute.
00:36:40.480
I think what they were looking to do was basically do a domestic war on terror using the legislation
00:36:46.400
that all the flag-waving yahoos had cheered on back in, you know, 2003, four or five.
00:36:52.320
Everybody thought this will never be used against us.
00:36:54.480
This is just going to be used against Muslim terrorists.
00:36:56.180
Same thing is happening right now, you know, what they're doing on the campuses.
00:36:59.340
Oh, well, this is, this is just being used against those foreign radicals.
00:37:06.800
And you had this, this sort of dream team of anti-white Jews like Merrick Garland, who
00:37:12.100
his history goes all the way back to, uh, you know, the nineties with Janet Reno and, uh,
00:37:18.800
I mean, he's that guy is a lifelong anti-white, uh, just a car.
00:37:24.280
And then, uh, you know, Lloyd Austin came into the military there with the intention of purging
00:37:29.380
the U S military of all the, of the, all the pro-white sentiment.
00:37:34.060
And, uh, so they, they brought this group of people in.
00:37:37.820
And of course the ultimate was Alejandro Mayorkas, who has this record of being an open borders
00:37:43.760
guy and they jammed through more, more non-white immigration in Biden's four years than ever
00:37:49.640
It seemed like their response to Trumpism was, we dodged a bullet there.
00:37:54.980
Trump is under our control, but easily this could slip out of our control.
00:37:58.900
If this many white people vote for a guy like Trump, what if something comes along that's
00:38:03.040
Uh, so we gotta, we gotta speed up the timeline.
00:38:05.280
We gotta accelerate the timeline on the day when whites are a minority in America.
00:38:09.540
It seems like that was the agenda, but what happened?
00:38:12.340
Well, it's interesting because it all started to change when Putin went into Ukraine.
00:38:19.920
And then it dramatically changed after October 7th.
00:38:23.300
And I feel like what's happening is they are in 2021, there was no Ukraine war.
00:38:29.860
Um, China was not quite the threat that they view it today.
00:38:33.720
Um, and certainly they thought they had the middle East completely under control.
00:38:37.580
They thought that was a slow genocide of the Gazans because you remember the March of
00:38:41.780
Return that happened, uh, back a few years before that, 2018-19, when the Gazans peacefully
00:38:49.920
And, uh, they, Israel was just shooting them down for sport.
00:38:53.420
I mean, they would deliberately target guys in the knee, try to make cripples out of them.
00:38:59.800
And this is what, uh, Yaya Sinwar, who planned October 7th, he later said that that went into
00:39:05.560
his thinking that the world is, takes no notice if, if we try to do, be like Gandhi and just
00:39:11.160
nonviolently protest, they're just going to murder us.
00:39:17.500
It was a raid to get captives, to get, uh, to bring back IDF soldiers to use as bargaining
00:39:23.120
as they had before to get Palestinian prisoners released.
00:39:27.020
Um, but I think they, the system, Zog, as it were, they made a decision after the sort of
00:39:38.160
They made a decision, uh, after, especially after October 7th, that, you know what, let's go for
00:39:48.820
I mean, look at Trump's administration, his, uh, inauguration rather.
00:39:56.680
Four years at the Washington post, uh, and Mark Zuckerberg and all these, suddenly they love
00:40:02.440
Suddenly they decided they love, you know, white populism.
00:40:04.700
All the Silicon Valley Jews and, you know, David Sachs.
00:40:12.000
And people, when I, when I say this, people think I'm trying to be a black pill or I'm
00:40:21.460
They are losing their grip when they, when these people come to you and they say, Hey,
00:40:25.660
whitey, can you help us out here with the, with the Muslims, you know, after having
00:40:31.100
for, for, for the previous four years being death to whitey, then, you know, they're losing
00:40:36.360
it, they're losing their grip and we got to just not, not fall for the compromise, keep
00:40:40.980
pushing and we'll get, we can get everything we want, uh, if we keep pushing.
00:40:45.520
I mean, the pro pro pro white stand is, is it's outside of that paradigm, obviously, you
00:40:50.280
Cause we're not getting it from there, but so there's a number of things that, which
00:40:53.020
is interesting, which is, I still can't, I can't shake that feeling with October 7th
00:40:58.860
that they, to a certain extent, kind of a lot, or like they knew there were rumors,
00:41:06.100
And they say, did this is, we, we let's, let's use it, you know, kind of thing.
00:41:12.860
Well, my position on that is that, uh, I think that of course, like with any surprise
00:41:18.140
attack, some, some Israelis, uh, I've, you know, I've watched a lot of documentaries
00:41:22.700
Some Israeli officers were like, there was a one female officer, I think in particular, who
00:41:29.160
Um, and it's kind of like the way Stalin was getting warnings prior to, uh, 1941, Barbarossa
00:41:39.260
Um, and he chose not to believe those warnings.
00:41:41.640
Now, someone in retrospect, when they look at how Stalin won the war and he pushed all
00:41:46.960
the way into Europe and, and was able to set up all these puppet states and, and, you
00:41:51.740
know, he ended the war more powerful than the Soviets had ever been.
00:41:54.800
And someone might look at that and say, well, maybe he allowed operation Barbarossa to take
00:42:00.580
So with this in mind, that this was the plan all along.
00:42:06.780
I know it may look that way to people because, you know, Israel sort of went berserk after
00:42:12.120
They killed, you know, uh, uh, Hania who had been the Hamas spokesman for years.
00:42:20.000
Um, but no, I, I don't think, um, I think they, Israel's position, Netanyahu's thing
00:42:26.160
is never let a good crisis go to waste rather than this is the plan all along because they're,
00:42:31.420
they're head rushing headlong towards a disaster.
00:42:35.960
And so in that moment, whether intentional or, uh, Intel was head about it, or there was
00:42:40.980
totally catching them off guard, regardless the way they've used it remains.
00:42:49.040
And going back to the point you mentioned before as well, regarding, you know, if you
00:42:52.140
don't understand then that, um, if you don't care about the Palestinian, uh, plight, obviously,
00:42:57.500
well, the same people have time and time again, basically said, well, you know, we want to
00:43:01.340
send them to, to Europe and to America or whatever, you know what I mean?
00:43:05.180
And so we will still suffer from this in some way.
00:43:08.620
I mean, we have, you have the Kushner stuff about waterfront property.
00:43:11.820
He, now I think the latest, uh, spoof idea was to basically ship a bunch of Palestinians
00:43:20.280
And look at what happened there and them using that as a springboard for the, you know, migrant,
00:43:28.320
Um, all these countries are stuff that, uh, again, another Jewish guy, right?
00:43:33.080
Wesley Clark talked about in this, you know, uh, supposed top-down decision at the Pentagon
00:43:40.140
They've just decided, no one knows, we're just going to invade all these countries for
00:43:44.260
It's somehow, intelligence can't figure this out.
00:43:46.760
No one in the Pentagon can understand what could be the reason for invading all these
00:43:54.100
We can figure it out, but they can't, supposedly?
00:43:57.700
I think just reading and knowing, uh, Jewish history, um, you know, on War Strike, we've been,
00:44:04.420
We've read The Money Kings by Daniel Shulman, we've, we've read all kinds of books about
00:44:08.600
the history of, uh, Jewish ritual murder, which I, I, until I studied it, I thought it
00:44:12.820
was more or less, you know, uh, an actual conspiracy theory or a lot of rumors and superstitions
00:44:19.940
And, uh, read, uh, Ariel Toph's book on it, um, Blood Passover, that really convincingly
00:44:25.300
makes the argument, and he's an Israeli medievalist historian, but if you read it, it's,
00:44:29.940
But if you, it all stems from the same point of view, you, you were, you've had, uh, we
00:44:36.380
Emily and I did a show on that and about this, this ideology.
00:44:39.720
And, uh, when you study their religion, even their major holidays, all their major holidays,
00:44:44.340
I mean, what Passover is, uh, to say nothing, a Purim, uh, embedded in their ideology, in
00:44:52.540
their whole worldview and their religious worldview, which extends to, you know, it's a secular
00:44:57.360
worldview as well, is a view of the moral right to exterminate men, women, and children.
00:45:05.720
I even believe, actually, Henrik, that the Holocaust story is a projection of, um, Jewish
00:45:15.140
In other words, you know, I think the most you can say about the National Socialists is
00:45:20.700
they wanted to get all the Jews out of Europe, and if some of them died, you know, in moving
00:45:25.000
them around, they didn't care, or they had other priorities, you know, I think that's
00:45:29.580
But I, I don't think this idea that we're going to exterminate every last man, woman,
00:45:35.320
and child, that's something that doesn't really come from European thinking.
00:45:40.640
It is very much a, uh, a type of thinking that you see over and over and over again in
00:45:46.780
the Old Testament and with their, their whole ethos.
00:45:53.660
So, so, yeah, that, and, and they view us as Amalek.
00:45:56.960
That's the important thing for anybody else who would want to make the deal, the devil's
00:46:00.880
bargain with Zionists and say, well, okay, we'll let them slaughter the Palestinians in
00:46:05.460
exchange for, they take the, the boot off the neck over here with, with migration or with
00:46:10.740
BLM or with, you know, tranny stuff or whatever.
00:46:16.460
I think that they view us as their ultimate enemy.
00:46:20.480
I think if you, because if you study the history of the Middle East, you see that they
00:46:33.900
The Romans, of course, fought them famously, Titus.
00:46:39.280
Then when the crusaders came to Jerusalem, it's so funny that Pete Hegseth has that Deus
00:46:43.940
I mean, that big phony, uh, when the first crusade, when they came to Jerusalem, uh, these
00:46:51.420
crusaders carrying the cross of, of the guy who a thousand years before had been tortured
00:46:57.000
to death by Jews, supposedly they massacred every Jew in the synagogue in Jerusalem when
00:47:03.960
So from their point of view, we, the European peoples are their ultimate enemy.
00:47:10.540
And, uh, you know, once they've dealt with Gaza, you know, they're going to deal with
00:47:15.200
us and that's, that's their, that's their idea.
00:47:21.740
So, uh, so that's the thing we should return in kind and remember, they're our big enemy.
00:47:28.520
We can work out deals and bargains with anybody else.
00:47:30.820
We can get along with anybody else in the world, um, except for them.
00:47:34.200
We have to, we have to just beat them politically.
00:47:45.720
Those are related also, obviously, but then it's Amalek.
00:47:47.780
And when it's convenient, uh, it's the Palestinians, but when it's, you know, but when it comes down
00:47:53.640
And again, it, I think that's because they hate us more than they love their own.
00:47:59.060
And they've shown this during October 7th with the Hannibal directive, for example.
00:48:05.100
And you had these comments, even from one of the, um, I think she's the former, what
00:48:09.940
was it, uh, it was a design, religious Zionism party.
00:48:13.480
She was saying victory over Hamas more important than returning all the, all the hostages.
00:48:19.240
So it's not really about the hostages and they are, as you said before, willing to sacrifice
00:48:24.260
their own Wendy's expedience at the same time, that's because of the greater good, right?
00:48:30.680
But at the same time, if that means cutting off some, you know, extra, you know, people
00:48:35.640
here and there to achieve your greater objective, they're more than happy to do that.
00:48:41.200
And, and it's funny because people, uh, a few months ago, there were people that were
00:48:45.420
thrown around the, the, you know, bad actors mostly, but we're thrown around this third
00:48:48.820
worldist idea that if you support Palestinian rights or something, which by the way is an
00:48:53.040
old position, I mean, you know, Henrik, my father was involved in this movement, um, in
00:48:56.920
the seventies, he was with the American Nazi party and with, uh, William Pierce early on
00:49:01.160
in the history of the national alliance and, uh, my whole childhood.
00:49:05.400
And before that, the position of the American right, uh, the, the national socialist right
00:49:10.040
or the white racialist right was always solidarity and support for the Palestinians.
00:49:13.600
That, that, that only started to change after, uh, the big migrant invasions into Europe.
00:49:18.780
And then you had some of these like Geert Wilder's Zionist anti, you know, the counter
00:49:22.620
Jihad stuff, but the history of this movement going all the way back even to, to Hitler was
00:49:27.920
support for the, the, the Palestinians and their rights.
00:49:31.300
But my position on this is that, uh, the third worldists are people who support Israel,
00:49:38.500
because if you look at, if you really study their religion.
00:49:43.600
Um, the thing that emerges to me is that their whole philosophy and, and view of life
00:49:53.420
is, is something out of, it's funny that the, the idea, uh, the BAP people use the, what's
00:49:59.320
his name uses that half Jew uses this term bronze age pervert, because I think that really actually
00:50:08.820
It is the mindset of a primitive Semitic tribe that has not evolved past basic, like hatred.
00:50:21.440
Their children, especially because kids are easier to kill than adult men.
00:50:25.280
So that's, you know, it's like their morality has not evolved past the bronze age.
00:50:31.020
And, uh, it's funny because I don't get into the religious stuff.
00:50:34.060
Really, I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not a pagan.
00:50:37.300
I'm, I'm sort of, I would call myself like a deist, you know, but I've been reading lately,
00:50:41.780
uh, some of the writings of Voltaire and some of these enlightenment, uh, deists.
00:50:48.980
Um, and it's funny because when you read these guys, they're kind of horrified by Judaism
00:50:55.400
when they, when they, uh, I think Napoleon even said this about, about, uh, he said that
00:51:00.540
the Jews of the Bible, the Hebrews of the Bible were a horrible people, cowardly and cruel,
00:51:10.960
It's so it's like, it's like the thing about the Jews is they are a relic from another,
00:51:15.760
from a, from like the bronze age in their mindset, but they're very clever and they have
00:51:22.920
So it's like, if you combine the sort of vicious hatred and inhumanity of a primitive Semitic
00:51:30.860
tribe from like 4,000 years ago, that's just totally inhumane and no kind of enlightened
00:51:37.560
viewpoint whatsoever, or, you know, even like basic compassion is something that they haven't
00:51:44.240
Um, if you combine that, that mindset with the latest, like Skynet style AI, you know,
00:51:53.460
used to target families or, or, or drone technology or these exploding pagers, I mean, you saw it
00:52:00.580
It was like a mask off moment, the pagers, the whole world was horrified by that.
00:52:04.580
Everyone, every normal person, the idea of taking something like that, uh, which is just a,
00:52:10.280
you know, a, a product hijacking an industrial process, um, to get a product everyone uses
00:52:16.620
and weaponizing and turning into a deadly weapon.
00:52:19.040
And, and, you know, of course they were extolling the fact that they set it so that it was a
00:52:26.100
It rang for a minute so that people would look at it.
00:52:28.500
So their face would be in front of it and then it would explode.
00:52:33.220
We were playing it on war strike of these Jews in Israel, laughing, gloating, uh, you know,
00:52:39.980
just cackling like sadistic ghouls over this horrific attack.
00:52:45.160
So it's a, yeah, it's the worst of both worlds.
00:52:47.340
It's a, it's a primitive, vengeful people who haven't progressed past like basic revenge and
00:52:54.680
hate, uh, combined with the most high tech, terrible weapons and technology that have ever
00:53:02.840
It's a terrifying combination, but it's so, um, repulsive to humanity that that works against
00:53:11.340
I think they, they don't quite get why people to this day, they still don't understand why
00:53:19.600
Which, you know, it's interesting because I, I wonder how many of them truly believe it
00:53:24.380
I mean, this is, we're not in their heads, so we can't figure this out, obviously, but it's
00:53:31.720
And, and that doesn't mean that all religion is bad, obviously, but, but this one, this
00:53:41.940
I think that you could, you could be anything, any religion in the SS, except they didn't
00:53:49.380
They didn't want people who were like, there is no God, you know, there's nothing but a
00:53:54.340
And they also didn't like, they didn't allow Judaism, anything else you could be in the SS,
00:54:06.540
There's a couple of things that I want to squeeze in.
00:54:09.440
Time is going so fast here, but it's very, very interesting, right?
00:54:12.240
So you have, let's do this headline here real quick.
00:54:19.860
But this one here regarding, here's one, right?
00:54:27.420
You have that, like, well, it, you know, it, it's kind of just Likud Netanyahu, right?
00:54:35.380
Even Ehud Barak, the former PM, has been very highly critical of Netanyahu and how they're
00:54:40.640
It's, it's almost one of these, you're not doing it right.
00:54:46.660
They're, you're, you're not helping while they, I think genuinely at the same time,
00:54:56.280
As the title of the show implies, it's do or die for Israel.
00:55:03.220
And so the question is if the Zionist project is in these dire straits.
00:55:06.600
You have, for example, even, and he's been very fair and, you know, even good on certain
00:55:12.280
But like Jeffrey Sachs recently, he's upped his rhetoric significantly when it comes to actually
00:55:17.000
trying to, you know, look at the, he didn't use to talk about the greater Israel project.
00:55:20.980
He didn't use to talk about like, I think he even tied in religion into it in one of
00:55:29.000
I forget if this was in Turkey or Syria, not Syria, but somewhere in that area.
00:55:34.960
And he was kind of like going on, where's the clip here?
00:55:37.740
We don't have to play the audio from it, but here it was.
00:55:43.780
He doesn't use the word, of course, Jewish supremacy, but it's like, it's beginning to
00:55:48.640
He's also moved from a position that this is like, because these guys usually say it's
00:55:52.640
American foreign, this is just American foreign policy and they're using poor Israel kind of
00:55:56.780
as their front, as opposed to their reverse situation, right?
00:56:00.580
And he's gone from that to like, no, this is a, this is a, these are neocons.
00:56:07.040
And he still, I think, leans mostly like it's just kind of a Netanyahu problem.
00:56:10.980
But again, it's, it's moving in this direction.
00:56:16.520
It's being, it's getting slowly and not fast enough, but it is slowly getting more
00:56:22.920
And I'm not sure what to make of this, but it's the pivot, I think, right?
00:56:25.800
The internal disagreement, as we've seen so many times within this group, right?
00:56:32.240
How do we best pull this off essentially without, you know, the world turning against us?
00:56:39.660
And Thomas Friedman, I mean, it's particularly rich coming from him because he's another
00:56:43.100
one that was one of the biggest cheerleaders for the Iraq war.
00:56:50.020
Like we, if I asked you to point to a white person who says that the impact of Europe on
00:56:56.240
the world has been terrible and that white people are bad and that white, the influence
00:57:00.540
of white people is bad and that we need to make up for the fact that, and that our whole
00:57:04.380
institutional, you know, white racism is, is, has got to go and that we need to atone
00:57:10.680
If I, if I asked you to point to an example of a white person who said that, you could
00:57:14.120
probably find, uh, uh, you know, tens of thousands, you know, millions maybe of whites
00:57:21.100
Where are the Jews that take that point of view?
00:57:22.940
I mean, where's the Jew writing for the New York times that says, you know what, Jewish
00:57:26.620
power in the United States is bad and we got to dismantle it, you know, for, for, for
00:57:31.300
the sake of, of what's right and our conscience and, and to be anti-racist, none of them go
00:57:38.100
I mean, you know, Bernie Sanders is a great one.
00:57:40.180
I mean, Bernie Sanders is, he's another one for the Felford again awards.
00:57:43.720
I mean, that guy from the left, cause I was back, back, uh, when I was in college during
00:57:48.640
the Bush years, I was involved with the West Virginia democratic party when it was still
00:57:53.780
And, uh, it was very, um, socially conservative at that time.
00:57:58.020
I mean, that type species of Democrat doesn't exist anymore, but, uh, I had, you know, I,
00:58:02.860
I was involved here and there with the anti-war left.
00:58:09.500
And, uh, Bernie came along and what they call him is a sheepdog candidate.
00:58:14.100
He came along in 2016 when people, a lot of Democrats, a lot of progressives and others
00:58:25.260
Hillary was the most corporate horrible Democrat.
00:58:28.480
She represented the worst kind of neoliberal corporate Democrat that there is.
00:58:32.760
Um, Bernie came there, the sheepdog and played up his thing.
00:58:48.660
He did it with Biden and then he did it again with Kamala where he keeps the, the, the progressive
00:58:54.800
left that's had enough of, of, of the corporate Democrats from leaving the party, going to the
00:59:02.100
And he keeps them back corralled to the democratic party.
00:59:05.460
Well, he does the same thing with the Zionists, anti-Zionist sentiment.
00:59:08.460
I mean, this guy is a friend of, uh, Chuck Schumer, Chuck Schumer, you know, wall street,
00:59:14.880
wall street, wall street, Chuck Schumer's entire constituency is literally wall
00:59:19.260
Um, and Bernie is his friend and colleague on the, so, you know, he wants to play this
00:59:24.760
Oh, how is terrible Israel is, but just make sure that it doesn't extend to criticizing,
00:59:29.700
for instance, the Jewish influence in wall street, the Jewish influence in banking, the
00:59:37.860
Um, so yeah, uh, there was a very interesting debate.
00:59:40.860
I don't know if you've caught this, but right about two weeks before the election, we covered
00:59:47.260
There was a debate between Sam Harris and Ben Shapiro.
00:59:59.040
And it was a Jay for Jay conversation where they were kind of debating, which is the best
01:00:05.460
way forward for America, but really what they meant for world Jewry.
01:00:11.380
Should we lean into Trumpism to this sort of jingoistic, you know, neo-populist or pseudo-populist
01:00:19.800
Should we lean into it and go with that strength?
01:00:22.040
Or should we push back against it, call it fascism?
01:00:24.900
And Sam Harris was taking the more mainstream Jewish position, which is it's all bad.
01:00:29.660
Don't give this Trumpism stuff, uh, an inch because if you do, it's going to unleash other
01:00:39.800
But then Ben Shapiro's position is it's failed.
01:00:43.080
That stuff, the old neoliberal order is breaking down.
01:00:46.080
The old multipolar world order is breaking down.
01:00:50.780
Bidenism, I think they were sincerely trying to get things back on track to the old 90s
01:00:59.280
So this is now, you know, break the glass and pull the, pull the emergency, you know,
01:01:05.140
Mance, you know, suddenly it's, we're okay with this.
01:01:08.220
It's interesting because you do have the ascendancy of woke there too, which I always saw as kind
01:01:11.880
of like a, that just like take a hundred steps forward.
01:01:14.760
So you can take two back and then pretend that you somehow won the culture war or something
01:01:23.560
Is there, is anybody talking about bringing the, putting the Robert E. Lee statue back
01:01:28.500
Well, I mean, it's a, so if woke is gone, why don't we put those statues back up?
01:01:35.680
This blew my mind, Henrik, when I saw this, that they, the big show about how we're going
01:01:41.020
to rename all the bases, all the ones named after Confederate generals.
01:01:45.140
We're going to, you know, George Floyd and everything, and we're going to wipe the slate
01:01:52.280
Pete Hegseth, you know, Deus Volte, you know, there in his underwear model picks.
01:01:57.480
And by the way, he does have a Hebrew tat of Yeshua.
01:02:06.080
We're, we're renaming it back to Fort Bragg, back to Fort Benning.
01:02:09.900
And then you look at the fine print and it's actually being renamed, not, it's named after
01:02:15.840
some poor stiff who, who fought against the Germans in World War II, not General Bragg,
01:02:27.020
My father named me after Nathan Bedford Forrest.
01:02:33.920
And I was just joking actually with James Edwards about this, that if somebody were to
01:02:39.100
name something after General Nathan Bedford Forrest and then they renamed it and then they
01:02:45.280
change it back, but they, now it's named after the retard Forrest Gump instead of General
01:02:52.920
You know, I would be like, are you trying to trick me?
01:02:58.960
This is their, they're willing to go like make these token changes, give people the sense,
01:03:14.900
Let's play this and then we can start rounding up the first segment.
01:03:21.540
This is, it goes a little bit back to what we talked about before and it's very pertinent
01:03:25.260
to what you mentioned about the basically a Bronze Age, you know, desert mindset.
01:03:28.440
This is Howard, where's my Wikipedia page for him here?
01:03:38.960
Generally, he writes for like the Telegraph and stuff.
01:03:40.740
And I'm not sure, maybe you've seen him, maybe you've not.
01:03:43.240
But here he is talking about, it's very interesting.
01:03:45.380
If you haven't seen this, I think you'll enjoy this.
01:03:47.860
I think he wrote a book, I forget if the title is Time, but how they, and again, collectively
01:03:55.520
he's speaking on behalf of Jews and Judaism here, right?
01:04:04.340
He'd not seen danger to Jews, but he was aware of danger to Jews.
01:04:10.420
His father, who was born in Ukraine, in Kamenets Podolsky, had come over and no
01:04:17.840
doubt, told him stories about pogroms and so on.
01:04:21.360
So for my father in the 1940s and 50s to be Jewish was to carry a memory of the danger
01:04:31.860
So when you say, when you say this dystopian future is in fact your past, I completely understand.
01:04:38.240
But isn't it true to say for Jews that for Jews there is no past, present and future.
01:04:49.840
We remember our past, sometimes obsessively, someone would say, but we live forever in
01:04:58.420
And I don't think we suppose that our future will really be substantially any different from
01:05:07.440
That's one of the things that being Jewish means, I think.
01:05:20.780
This is why Eric Weinstein goes to the Hadrian's, the Arch of Titus.
01:05:41.880
So one of the things we've been doing with this show, and I've been studying more the
01:05:44.840
history with Russia and how Russia, for a long time there, the Jews viewed the Russians
01:05:52.420
as their like the big bad, you know, in the world, like the Russian people as being the
01:06:00.080
I mean, now after the war, that's what we think of, but, you know, you just read about
01:06:05.840
the history of anti-Semitism in Russia, and by anti-Semitism, I mean that in its most positive
01:06:11.540
I mean, in the sense of opposition to Jews and their creation.
01:06:17.940
I actually, I'm one, this is kind of a boutique take, but I'm for taking back the term anti-Semitism.
01:06:22.640
But when it was originally used, when it was originally used in Europe, you know, you had
01:06:26.780
some of the most educated Europeans around the 19th century, they started forming organizations.
01:06:31.880
There was one in Germany, there was one in France, that they were like the anti-Semitic
01:06:35.540
And they initially intended it, the phrase, to mean opposition, racial opposition to Jewry,
01:06:43.420
as opposed to a religious idea that, you know, we got to convert them and make them into
01:06:50.840
Yeah, yeah, this is, again, it was a more of a post-enlightenment kind of rational, like
01:06:57.240
we understand now about race and about the different races, and we understand Jews as
01:07:04.500
But anyway, regardless of the quibbling, people push back on me and they say, no, anti-Semitism,
01:07:10.320
But I still think that they, even though the Red Army took Berlin in 1945, and even though
01:07:18.060
Putin, you know, celebrated the Victory Day celebrations, everything, I think they hate
01:07:26.820
And I think that they really, really are, with the Ukraine war, they hate the Ukrainians
01:07:33.820
Well, he mentioned it in the clip, pogroms and stuff.
01:07:37.340
They're living, they're applying hatred to something that doesn't exist in those countries
01:07:43.820
And that, look at the power of Chabad in Russia, for example, right?
01:07:47.600
Sure, he kicked out some of the, you know, oligarchs, Jews or whatever, but many did stay,
01:07:55.500
And the fact that, anyway, this is a whole subject, but I just say this, and then I want
01:07:59.440
you to continue or finish, but the fact that the FSB or any other intelligence service insists
01:08:05.440
on not pointing out who actually holds the power in Western countries is either the greatest
01:08:09.960
intelligence failure of the, you know, 21st century, or they're just lying.
01:08:15.420
And this is why they keep blaming, like, you know, Anglo-Saxons for, like, the Nord Stream
01:08:23.300
There's enough separation between Russia and the West or Europe, you know, that they would
01:08:27.200
be like, you know what, we know who's in charge of it.
01:08:29.740
But the fact that there is none of that, as far as I'm concerned, in any kind of serious
01:08:34.140
or extensive, you know, presentation, I guess, to a certain extent, shows me that they still
01:08:42.160
So what I'm saying is, the hatred that they have doesn't apply.
01:08:45.800
It doesn't, it doesn't, I mean, they exterminated so many millions of people, you know, in the
01:08:50.280
Bolshevik Revolution and stuff like that, that that problem, whatever they consider that
01:09:01.140
And that's where, like, you can side with, I mean, evangelical Christians, so-called,
01:09:06.280
can side with Israel all day long, and they're still going to hate you and hate your race
01:09:12.900
I mean, you know, you see what they're doing to Christians in Israel today.
01:09:16.780
Whenever they get a chance to desecrate a church, they do it.
01:09:19.860
There is no getting along with these people, and they forget, they never forgive and they
01:09:24.380
never forget anything, the slightest, and that's what I, I always joke that, like, most Jewish
01:09:29.520
holidays, I mean, a Jew stubs his toe, you know, 4,000 years ago, and they still remember
01:09:34.960
it, and they haven't let it go, and they haven't forgiven it.
01:09:37.140
The concept of forgiveness is something that is alien to them.
01:09:41.980
And so, you know, we have to, when you're dealing with them, you have to keep this in
01:09:47.020
The interesting thing, though, Henrik, is they need their golem to, to succeed, to survive.
01:09:58.360
And that's where simply being aware of them and calling them out, and calling them out
01:10:04.040
specifically as Jews, you know, the old Goebbels line about just identifying it as Jewish and
01:10:14.540
Like I said before, is that it brought this all to the fore.
01:10:18.380
It made it, they're the subject of conversation.
01:10:26.400
I mean, Netanyahu, from the beginning of this war, I said, well, obviously, the war aim
01:10:31.280
here is to ethnically cleanse Gaza and annex it and repopulate it with Jewish settlers.
01:10:38.660
I think I was saying that already in October, in late October of 2023.
01:10:42.500
That that was one look at what they were doing.
01:10:44.440
And that's obviously the end goal here is to expand greater Israel, push them out, push
01:10:57.800
The anti-Zionists used to say, oh, this is all Netanyahu.
01:11:01.700
This is his, he's trying to keep his corruption scandals off the front page.
01:11:07.840
You know, every, and now it couldn't be more obvious.
01:11:11.360
And Netanyahu, he still had to do the proxy thing where he has that press conference with
01:11:16.260
Trump where Trump was like, well, I have a plan for, for, for.
01:11:20.880
And so Netanyahu's like, wow, Mr. President, that's a great idea you had.
01:11:26.080
I think we're going to go with President Trump's plan for Gaza.
01:11:31.540
Because some people were trying to say that Netanyahu kind of angrily looked over at him
01:11:44.040
Yeah, where they stood on the podiums together.
01:11:55.160
I think if Netanyahu, I think that if things got bad enough, world Jewry as a whole would cut
01:12:05.340
As you say, they will sacrifice one of their own if that's what it takes.
01:12:08.300
But Netanyahu actually has, I mean, to give the devil his due, he has played his cards
01:12:17.520
You know, he is dealing from a position of we need to just radically expand, wipe out
01:12:24.660
all of Israel's enemies in one go, radically expand.
01:12:28.580
And just on the surface, his record has been impressive.
01:12:32.800
You know, what he did to Hezbollah, what he did to, and this is all with the U.S.'s
01:12:39.000
But Hamas and then Syria, and then, you know, they're still pushing in Syria.
01:12:44.880
You have Jews that are saying, you know, well, wait a minute, you know, we better not push
01:12:48.980
too far because the goyim are the no and they're going to turn on us at some point.
01:12:53.240
And I think his mindset is just, we got to bluff it out.
01:12:56.500
We got to just bluff it out and just push for the man.
01:13:03.420
And even, you know, internationally, you might be like discredited and the ICC goes after
01:13:09.740
But at the same, and of course they have U.S. in their pockets or they threaten the people
01:13:13.160
at the ICC and even other, we'll bomb, you know, Netherlands or some shit because of
01:13:19.240
But anyway, but if there's no one there to bite back, does it, oh, this doesn't look
01:13:29.020
And that's, that's the other thing with, with, if you want to look at, because people get
01:13:32.780
into what is in Donald Trump's heart, you know, you get these people that want to, want
01:13:36.720
to look into, into the window into, well, I mean, I've, I've studied this man and I think
01:13:40.820
what's in his heart is he's a, he's a professional con man, but, but that's beside the
01:13:48.820
That pretty much tells you, I mean, the guy, he has a lifelong record of this.
01:13:54.780
I don't know if you recommend to your viewers or if you've seen it, this movie, The Apprentice
01:14:05.880
The first like 20 names of, of people that he mentions doing business with are Jews.
01:14:11.300
He mentioned his rabbi in the beginning, doesn't he?
01:14:13.820
These are not just Jews, but the, but the, but the, but the sort of kooky, so-called
01:14:19.920
He is, and his father, Fred also was in bed with him.
01:14:25.220
Let's just say for a second that Trump is actually, he secretly wants to do right by white
01:14:31.080
people in the West and he just doesn't, he's being twisted, you know, and they, you know,
01:14:35.680
they have the, the Epstein photos of him with underage girls or some reason why he, against
01:14:40.640
his will, you know, he wants to do right by us.
01:14:43.060
He's compelled to do wrong by us every single time.
01:14:46.260
Even if that is your position, they totally control Congress.
01:14:54.980
And there's a position here where, you know, even if Trump were to say, well, I'm uncomfortable
01:15:04.960
If it came right down to it, this whole system, the Congress would impeach Donald Trump before
01:15:12.360
they would, before they would let him walk away from Israel.
01:15:15.160
Um, which is not to say that I think he wants to, I don't think he wants to at all.
01:15:19.920
I think he's, he knows what he's doing and he's playing his role, but that's what I'm
01:15:23.960
saying is the, the, the, the power to get back to what you're saying.
01:15:26.900
It doesn't matter what the optics are because at the end of the day, you know, the average
01:15:31.580
cost of an, uh, uh, American congressional election, I think just even a few years ago was
01:15:39.620
I mean, you cannot get a foothold in American politics, uh, regardless of what the popular
01:15:46.620
sentiment is, unless you have a voting base like Rashida Tlaib has, it's all, your entire
01:15:54.760
I was living in Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania, um, during that election in, in 2022 or a little
01:16:00.420
before that, 2021 and Fetterman, that was the most expensive Senate race in American history.
01:16:10.040
It was like, um, a third of a $300 billion or $300 million.
01:16:15.640
It was like what a presidential race used to cost.
01:16:19.860
I think it was three and a half million, uh, uh, 300, $350 million was spent in that Senate
01:16:26.980
And, uh, Fetterman gets in and he goes from sort of being like, you know, he was token pro-Israel
01:16:34.080
or whatever, but he was also, you know, a lot of other things to a lot of other people.
01:16:37.540
He gets in and Fetterman is the, he's worse than Randy Fine.
01:16:42.680
If you follow, look at his Twitter, it's nothing but like, oh, good.
01:16:54.100
But at first he seemed like this kind of, here's your, you know, left wing guy.
01:16:59.140
So you see, yeah, it's a standard, right, right, right, right, right.
01:17:03.380
It's, it's like, it's, it's so, so that's what I'm saying is that at the end of the day,
01:17:08.480
and this is something Striker always talks about, and he's really made me aware of is
01:17:13.580
that Jewish power really depends on three things, bribery, blackmail, and murder.
01:17:21.080
Those are the three things that they use to get their way.
01:17:28.820
It's how they've always operated in the United States.
01:17:30.800
It's, some of it is, you know, clever presentation, you know, some of it is, oh, Seinfeld is funny,
01:17:40.320
But, but if they didn't have a monopoly already on the industry, if they didn't, if they didn't
01:17:45.860
control like the publishing and the music publishing industry or whatever, and if they
01:17:50.180
didn't control people through blackmail and through bribery and through threats, because
01:17:54.740
that's what they ultimately do when, when they don't get their ways, they just use murder.
01:17:59.160
Um, and so that's how they're able to still do what they do.
01:18:02.880
Um, the problem is it's so abhorrent that at some point, like the Shiloh Hendricks thing,
01:18:12.080
you know, she, people are fed up, man, people are fed up and, uh, she gives this guy the finger
01:18:18.080
and, and drops an N-bomb when he challenges it.
01:18:21.800
And it's something that like, there's a collective sigh of relief when someone does that.
01:18:28.340
And I think if, if there were a lot of people who on October 7th were cheering, uh, and saying,
01:18:36.700
I know I was, uh, think how many more people in the world would be cheering if Israel got
01:18:43.440
There was plenty of people on October 7th that were still like, oh, this is terrible.
01:18:48.140
It's this, it's that all lies, you know, the 40 beheaded babies and the mass rapes.
01:18:53.320
Six million, uh, you know, uh, was it a street, the, the pavements that had been broken?
01:18:58.520
It was, it was kind of funny watching the coverage in a way, to be honest.
01:19:01.680
But anyway, I mean, all, I mean, I think they went on to do in Gaza, all this stuff they
01:19:06.340
accused of them, you know, classic, you know, but today, uh, again, we're, we're seeing
01:19:15.020
So they are kind of in a rock and a hard place.
01:19:16.900
Netanyahu in a way from their point, if you were them, what would you do?
01:19:20.380
I think in a way, Netanyahu's correct to just push for toppling Iran at all costs, because
01:19:27.140
once Iran is, what they're hoping, I think, with Iran is that they can use this combination
01:19:33.480
of, of assassination type strikes to decapitate the leadership and then plunge the country into
01:19:41.900
I think they were very encouraged by what happened with Assad and sort of emboldened by
01:19:46.500
Um, but then there's going to be consequences for that too, you know, I mean, that's going
01:19:53.440
So they're, you know, it's not a good position that they're in.
01:19:58.400
I mean, I think there's still might try the Pahlavi option.
01:20:03.340
Do you know about the, the former Shah's son, is it, or, um, Reza?
01:20:07.320
Oh, oh, like the, yeah, they've got, they've got, they want to bring back the monarchy.
01:20:13.500
He goes there like, oh my God, they're making the desert bloom.
01:20:17.620
You know, some of his comments and stuff like that.
01:20:21.960
They could always rely on cucked monarchies to, you know, all the way back, all the way back
01:20:28.320
You know, when it's Islam, it's, when it's politically expedient to do hardcore Islam, right?
01:20:33.580
And then you're back to secular, secular government again, then it's right-wing nationalists.
01:20:40.500
It's not about what nomenclature you use or anything of that.
01:20:53.540
If, if that's what it takes to get it done, they will invoke that as long as they, they push
01:20:59.180
As long as they, as they, you know, steer it and nudge it basically.
01:21:03.580
And if they can't, and if they can't do that, then they'll take care of that in some other
01:21:07.300
way or a counter movement or, you know, whatever.
01:21:10.060
Anyway, we're going to take a break here and I want to continue to talk more about this
01:21:13.860
and, and basically the, I think it's in their nature too.
01:21:16.620
I'll pick your brain on that later, but anyway, that's a, that's a thing for a little bit
01:21:20.980
Let me take these, a couple of super chats here real quick.
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Albert out the gates as always, one of our angel, well, he is our angel investor.
01:21:28.200
Thank you so much, Albert, as always for a generous donation.
01:21:31.900
Uh, he says, hi, Henrik, looking forward to watching this after work.
01:21:37.620
Well, I do apologize for not getting back to that.
01:21:43.060
Who says two tier USA, three cops in the entire Nichols case were acquitted of homicide.
01:21:49.060
They beat him to death, yet to Derek Chauvin, not in, uh, rots in jail.
01:21:55.740
Uh, gonna have to break Chauvin out and get him, uh, to have coffee with Snowden.
01:22:01.720
Um, we, uh, yeah, that's a, is, I might actually talk, we'll ask you later about Chauvin.
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There's some federal potential federal charges drop, but that's another thing.
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Um, Warren, make a plug here for your stuff where people can follow you, watch your stuff,
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Uh, I also have a sub stack that I've, I haven't written a lot for it, but I've wrote a couple
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Um, and I'm trying to, I'm going to be writing for that more.
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I may, I posted one or two modern politics on that.
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I may start using that to post modern politics when we resume.
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But then, uh, right now our whole archive of modern politics is still available on
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Odyssey, um, and only on Odyssey as of right now.
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Uh, and then War Strike, I, I stream with Eric Stryker every Thursday.
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Eastern, sometimes a little earlier than that, but 8 p.m.
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These streams go like eight or nine hours and they're pretty intense.
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We, we do about four hours of current events and book reviews.
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And then we, and then we do super chats and we have a very great base of, uh, super chatters,
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very intelligent people who, who contribute to the discussion.
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And we do that on, on Rumble and on, uh, Odyssey every, every Thursday.
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Substack is, it might be an interesting option.
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Something up with Substack for Red Ice or something.
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So what we're going to do is we're going to take a little break here for a little bit.
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