Red Ice TV - Gen Z：＂Extreme＂ Is The New Normal with Joey Oliver

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00:02:30.000 and welcome back ladies and gentlemen april fool's day actually 2026 can you believe it

00:02:52.720 holy smokes i think it's passover 2 and a full moon so watch out it's about to pop off

00:02:57.280 uh it's definitely nuts on the iran front anyway i don't think we'll talk too much about that today

00:03:01.920 obviously obviously everything is related everything's tangentially related in one way

00:03:05.840 or another uh we're actually going to talk about american history z uh with our um guest here today

00:03:12.800 joey oliver and we are going to get into uh why he wrote the book and so forth obviously talking

00:03:17.760 about the generation z what's going on they're getting more extreme is this for the for better 1.00

00:03:24.000 for worse. What's going on? The young men, as far as I read the statistics, is of course getting

00:03:28.760 more radicalized or extreme towards the right wing, while many of the women more towards the

00:03:34.060 left. And then you have a slight division in terms of the older Gen Z versus the younger ones as

00:03:39.380 well, by the way. And of course, it's a generation shaped by very different things than the preceding

00:03:44.660 ones. We'll get into that and talk about that too. But yeah, lots to get into here today with

00:03:49.280 our guest joey welcome to the show how are you good thanks for having me man you bet um so tell

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00:04:30.680 So, yeah, Joey, with that out of the way,

00:04:33.040 tell us how this came together.

00:04:36.220 You are fairly new with the Right Wing Coalition.

00:04:39.220 That's your kind of username, if you will, on Twitter and on YouTube.

00:04:43.560 I think I read on the blurb for the book 2025, something like that.

00:04:47.140 Yeah, so I got started. I put my first video up, I think in August, early August of 2025. And the only catalyst for it was it was right in the heart of all the Nick Fuentes controversy. And I've been following Nick for years. And I kind of understood how the media was framing him that wasn't honest and what they were leveraging their narrative upon.

00:05:13.020 so i just wrote a script that was you know the the real nick fuentes or the truth about nick fuentes

00:05:21.260 and put it up i was like if this does anything cool if it doesn't whatever nobody knows who i am

00:05:28.860 we'll see what what happens and then it it blew up i think it almost has a million views now

00:05:34.620 and it picked up really quickly so like within the first two weeks i think i had like 10 000

00:05:38.780 subscribers so i was like okay this is this is going pretty well and then i did a video on jordan

00:05:44.460 peterson and kind of his downfall because that was another narrative that i felt wasn't really

00:05:50.300 articulated in the the mass media too well no people still didn't really understand what

00:05:55.660 happened to him why you know young men kind of fell away from uh from his influence and so i put

00:06:01.500 that one out did really well and i did no planning for like having this set up as like a real channel

00:06:09.820 or like you know a mechanism for media uh i just kind of let it let it lead me along and then so i

00:06:16.860 pivoted initially i was just doing breakdowns i think i did one on bukele and sam hyde you know

00:06:22.220 just guys that i'm a big fan of um and then i got more into the actual political commentary which

00:06:28.300 which was originally more practical right-wing philosophy, applied philosophy, you know, in the

00:06:35.140 real world. And then I think it was like late October, I ended up writing a 8,000-word essay,

00:06:44.280 which I titled Gen Z from liberal to far right. And it skimmed this narrative arc of how you

00:06:50.720 could take, broadly speaking, a bunch of young men, start them as default liberals, as we all did,

00:06:56.520 really um and shift to the point where most of us that are on the right are more right-winged

00:07:03.260 and our grandparents may be great-grandparents um and i i understood though it wasn't a story that

00:07:09.240 exactly happened to me i was much earlier on these things i could kind of pinpoint the milestones

00:07:14.580 and how they all bridge together um to create an actual narrative and not just like a

00:07:21.100 not a collection of, you know, almost essays within that time period. So I narrativized it

00:07:29.400 and it did really well. I think it, I think it got about 300,000 views. Carl Benjamin did like

00:07:35.940 a response to it. And at that point, you know, I maybe had 20,000 subscribers. It was like maybe

00:07:41.160 my 10th video. But anyway, so Arctos reached out, the European publisher, kind of like the

00:07:48.640 new right French new right and um their marketing director asked me you know your essays are really

00:07:55.240 good would you be interested in publishing them with us I said yeah absolutely and he said well

00:08:00.960 why don't we start with your Gen Z from liberal to far right so we did that one and then it did 0.78

00:08:05.680 really well there I think it was it's the second most popular article that they've put out but you

00:08:10.580 know while I was thinking about it um deeper I realized that the way I wrote it was very

00:08:17.420 presumptive like i didn't apply enough evidence to actually show why the specific change in

00:08:26.700 ideology happened it was more like a than b than c than d but i really wanted to prove kind of the

00:08:34.780 actual substance of what i was saying and um so i i talked to arctos and i was like yeah i'm thinking

00:08:41.100 about turning this into a book and they said i wrote up the first two chapters and i sent it to

00:08:46.620 to them and i said i'm what do you think and that sent me a contract and that was in december

00:08:50.900 so i think i wrote the first two con two chapters like december 1st or something like that and then

00:08:57.680 i i used my original essay as the narrative arc and i applied the structure of the hero's journey

00:09:05.840 to it and filled it out to to an entire book with all of the evidence all of the tweets all of the

00:09:13.520 the articles everything's because i really wanted to solidify like this is not one person's you know

00:09:20.120 niche perspective it really is every every headline that's shown in the book every tweet

00:09:25.240 that's shown in the book was you know that day's breaking news you know so these are it's not just

00:09:31.360 a recitation it is a recitation along with a distinct narrative of how you can go from point a

00:09:38.020 to point z understood so let's let's talk about the mechanics there a little bit what what makes

00:09:44.680 because i mean every generation has obviously new challenges and weird new like even technologies

00:09:51.680 right that shows up obviously just social media alone or gaming or like this very kind of a screen

00:09:58.360 oriented upbringing where kind of nothing is is is real really right in a sense and that that

00:10:05.180 dominates and i think again for better or worse right i think at the end of that that's a bad

00:10:10.400 thing however in terms of the disease of the modern world and the liberalism the egalitarianism

00:10:17.220 they just you know this drudge that we've been through basically post-world war ii

00:10:21.560 that has been it's being rejected for the most part not always obviously as we said there's

00:10:28.160 there's the statistics we can get into the nitty-gritty with that but regardless i i think

00:10:32.140 even even among far leftists just this desire among younger people generally just to for lack 0.99

00:10:38.760 of a better term fuck shit up it's it's always there you know i mean they're tired of the of 0.97

00:10:43.720 the preceding conditions that were there and i think it's more true now than ever because of the 0.98

00:10:48.500 the comfort the meaninglessness the you know like all these things right so those are probably

00:10:53.960 things you would agree with are many of the reasons and dominating reasons for why we're

00:10:59.300 seeing such a and again i'm not sure if it's super dramatic but in terms of the older generations

00:11:03.920 how they view it it's probably like they're so extreme what's what's going on what's happening

00:11:08.700 why is this an issue right would you agree well definitely i think your note about the modernism

00:11:17.880 facilitating that rage is 100 100 spot on we are in what's called a gilded cage right now

00:11:25.060 and um we don't have a great incentive to depart from it and undergo i mean it's like the buddha

00:11:33.400 story right it's it's very similar in that regard from a societal perspective because

00:11:37.080 our physical needs are all met but we're starved of the spiritual correct and um but you know what

00:11:44.780 what i frame in the book especially near the end is this general manifestation of

00:11:55.900 young right-wing politics right now is not actually radical it's only radical when it's

00:12:01.900 juxtaposed to an ideology that has fraudulent assumptions about man but if you remove that

00:12:09.500 and you take and you and you compare what i think to someone even in the 1920s it it wouldn't be

00:12:16.940 looked at differently or bizarrely at all it's a correction actually it's a course correct yeah

00:12:23.260 right so you know and it's it's almost a uh it's almost hyperbole to say far right to say

00:12:30.140 radicalized which i think i omit radicalization quite a bit in the book because to me what it is

00:12:34.780 It's a continual stripping away. And I did each chapter almost intentionally like this. It's a continual stripping away of each of the liberal lies. Okay, that one's BS. Okay, what are the implications of that? Maybe you haven't even figured it out yet, but you find out, you know, two years later, you know, and so it's not, it's not actually the, we're not formulating anything.

00:12:58.260 we are reacting to the fact that reality is not lining up with how everybody said it would have

00:13:06.320 and should have and it's an adjustment like you said a correction is that a risk in that or you

00:13:12.060 know i was just talking about it too when the that's always the case that's always the case

00:13:16.780 for every generation i guess radical quote-unquote radicalism as you say in this case it's the the

00:13:21.940 extremism is simply just a a correction to the extreme circumstances that we actually grew up

00:13:28.100 and the very strange and bizarre, rare circumstances

00:13:30.760 with, for the most part, lack of struggle and lack of meaning, right?

00:13:35.300 We've always had that for as long as we can remember.

00:13:37.340 And all of a sudden, post-World War II, like, history is over,

00:13:40.780 everything, you know, liberal democracy won out or whatever.

00:13:43.880 And, of course, I mean, look at the state of the world now,

00:13:46.400 by the way, putting that in context, but that's a different thing.

00:13:49.680 But, yeah, it was, like, not there.

00:13:50.760 So this is, yeah, the extremism is simply just how kind of the boomer generation 0.84

00:13:55.360 really views views that and and that that's some kind of anomaly but yeah as you said i think

00:14:00.320 i think it's a course correction and it could kind of i guess swing either way i think i mean

00:14:06.080 i'm not sure if you agree with that or not but you can see obviously as far right politics catches on

00:14:11.360 or or you know you know works in right socialism is getting more popular also among younger

00:14:16.880 generations in in the u.s and and you know the bernie sanders type of you know aoc type of people

00:14:22.080 mamdami whatever um so you can kind of swing either way but the point is we're we're sick

00:14:27.620 collectively of the of the middle ground that offers nothing exactly right yeah yeah and i think

00:14:34.060 what i see especially from the propagation of the left which you know that's been going on far

00:14:41.140 longer i think in in higher numbers than what we're seeing on the right but it's a symptom that

00:14:48.480 whatever the status quo is cannot be reconciled. And oftentimes you have people

00:14:53.760 that will preach this return to the 1990s style of liberalism without ever addressing the fact that

00:15:02.740 that period in time just hadn't allowed the underlying contradictions of the societal

00:15:09.720 foundation to break under its own weight, but it was coming no matter what. And so that's just

00:15:15.580 fantastical thinking as if we could return to something that would inevitably fail and that's

00:15:20.320 why what i think i try and do and and certainly many others is like your foundation whether it's

00:15:28.280 ideological whether you're building a building the strength of your foundation and the consistency

00:15:33.220 of it and its ability to bear the load that gets forced upon it that is what you have to be focused

00:15:39.360 on not not not some utopian idea of what we could get to if you know 10 million different things

00:15:46.820 went right it's like why is liberalism breaking down because the the universal man the blank slate

00:15:53.520 is not true and so when you inject a society of citizens and the presumption is that the blank

00:16:01.420 slate applies and that everybody can be can be welded into the same type of widget that everybody

00:16:07.900 else is when that doesn't happen the the foundation breaks down so what what does that tell me okay

00:16:13.520 like anything like any evolution you take what you learned from that failure and you apply it

00:16:20.800 to something new not return to something that marginally worked in maybe five blue cities

00:16:26.860 for seven years you know right like we're having to deal with the true the true breakdown of of

00:16:33.940 these principles yeah and even when that egalitarianism did work is like well i mean

00:16:42.640 seattle maine what a portland like yeah they were predominantly white that's one of the reasons why 0.56

00:16:48.200 why it worked because it was homogenous right and of course exactly stock coming from scandinavia

00:16:53.300 sweden norway these countries denmark right and um so yeah in a way it does work but again that

00:17:00.280 that still discounts the basic idea that you can tap anyone into that high trust system right and

00:17:05.260 say like it will work therefore it will work for everyone so yeah it's a breakdown of that

00:17:09.440 of the false reality of the false you know kind of narrative that that we've been you know fed

00:17:14.880 essentially um what else do you think is the reason is that the primary reason what do you

00:17:20.240 think about the technological thing i brought up there too of just like screens and and gaming and

00:17:25.500 so much kind of being on a screen what do you what do you think that's contributed

00:17:28.820 well i think it certainly contributed substantially you know i'm 27 so i

00:17:35.620 surprisingly and i i know that the internet i think preceded like early 90s i think some

00:17:43.620 people had computers but um even functional ones like pcs but i do remember a world where that

00:17:51.300 wasn't the case like i remember when smartphones came out i remember you know dvds or i guess what

00:18:00.200 vhs and so i have a little bit of context of knowing what that was like beforehand and then

00:18:06.320 you know when i got my first smartphone i don't know it was like 14 15 then there was this market

00:18:11.180 change in everything and everyone from there and i think it's it's playing its part in gen z and

00:18:19.760 probably millennials to this point but i'm really curious what it's going to do to gen alpha and

00:18:26.060 before because those kids have no perception of what it was like before and so it's hard for me

00:18:31.660 to even really draw a conclusion on what it's done to me or broadly sociologically because there is

00:18:39.460 that kind of era one era two um but no doubt i think what undergirds all of that in terms of the

00:18:47.740 technological advancements it's the removal of normal struggle and suffering you know in almost

00:18:55.980 every regard and what we have clearly found at this point is you cannot excavate that out of

00:19:04.700 a human life and have that person derive meaning but i think now the question is because to some

00:19:14.380 degree if these civilizations remain intact to some degree we can engineer out quite a bit of that

00:19:21.420 needless toil needless suffering so then how are we going to figure out a way given that we have to

00:19:27.500 to integrate that in the proper ways you know like how and and this is where like i don't have

00:19:34.060 a lot of faith because how many people are going to intentionally do something that's inconvenient

00:19:42.620 it for themselves because they know that the underlying you know what i mean you'd have to be

00:19:46.500 very philosophically advanced it's it's a very niche small percentage that would be even able

00:19:51.920 to understand that first of all much as wanting to do it if they understood it um but yeah i mean

00:19:57.780 exactly and that comes in the wake well i mean again we'll we'll see there there are so many

00:20:02.880 variables i i think again we're moving the fact is we're moving into uncharted territory and of

00:20:07.800 course that's that's a good thing that's an exciting thing right when when there's finally

00:20:11.960 something on the horizon that's like we don't know uh granted maybe they didn't know in the 80s

00:20:18.320 either but you know regardless and result 2020 hindsight we can see that okay it was comfortable

00:20:23.440 for many decades to come right in different ways but now everything is kind of rocking it's up in

00:20:28.760 the air and energy shortages you know because the war like you know destabilization maybe the end of

00:20:34.320 the petrodollar for those in this in the states europe security nato is crumbling there's a lot

00:20:38.760 of things up in the air and and granted it could be kind of in the chaos i guess of the moment i i

00:20:44.320 get that there's a function politically or for the establishment to keep people in a sense of maybe

00:20:49.940 fear and and uncertainty as a way for them to kind of comply to it really so so very well that could

00:20:56.000 be you know part of the biggest reason for why we're seeing these things however it looks like

00:21:00.920 the leadership too that we're having is just i mean completely incompetent and and they don't

00:21:06.680 know at all what they're doing you know i i would actually contest that i think that they know

00:21:12.020 exactly what they're doing i think it's a it's an intentional degradation yeah i don't i don't

00:21:20.220 disagree i flip-flog back and forth all the time officially if i just look at it that way of what

00:21:25.020 they tell me they don't know what's going on but my mind has always been there's always some force

00:21:29.300 behind the scenes that are you know encouraging these people or pushing them whatever because

00:21:32.900 look again we we'll get back more you know detail in terms of the book and stuff but

00:21:36.640 interesting discussion to have regardless on top of you know current events right now but

00:21:40.280 um we know that they've wanted to do the de-industrialization of the west and energy

00:21:46.680 scarcity and all these kinds of things and this is a way in for kind of the the net zero if you

00:21:51.280 will the the world economic forum type of agendas that kind of been on the back burner a little bit

00:21:55.680 since Trump has partially been in office

00:21:57.640 and stuff like that, right?

00:21:58.460 But that's always there as an undercurrent.

00:22:00.160 And I think ultimately, if control and subjugation

00:22:04.180 and restriction, lockdowns, if you will,

00:22:08.480 is there as a political constant

00:22:11.480 by the elite or the establishment,

00:22:13.940 they will find new ways of basically ushering us

00:22:18.540 into that framework, essentially, if that makes sense.

00:22:23.240 Yeah, well, I was always curious

00:22:25.520 at why they pulled back so much on the coronavirus restrictions because I think there was enough

00:22:35.440 mania that they really could have continued progressing in the direction that they were

00:22:41.400 going and they pulled back and I'm not really sure what the tactical move was in that regard

00:22:49.980 But what it would imply is that that was a practice run, in a sense.

00:22:56.820 And it was a test.

00:22:58.120 That's true, yeah.

00:23:00.140 And that they probably didn't have the mechanism to totalize things.

00:23:05.340 And this is actually what I posited in my original essay from liberals to far right,

00:23:10.980 which is we are in a race.

00:23:12.940 We are in a race between the AI panopticon, the globalist AI panopticon that traces every move of yours, top-down economy, all the above, and a young men uprising, whatever that looks like.

00:23:31.820 i don't see any other outcome because their their grip of control even already and the

00:23:39.980 docility that they're able to apply to us through the modern world

00:23:45.220 i i don't see a way of changing the status quo outside of one of those two things at this point

00:23:54.840 for for us or for them for us general the general status quo either i like if they either have to

00:24:04.980 move forward with you know you notice what trump's doing i mean he's not revoking the real id he's

00:24:09.180 not making any steps against this digitalization of no he's speeding it up all the tech bros

00:24:15.320 silicon valley guys the teal faction in there oh yeah no that's that's his thing yeah it if you fly

00:24:21.280 back into the united states internationally you don't even have to have your passport anymore

00:24:24.960 right because they're just all biometrics yep come on yep and so i see that flowing as an

00:24:31.880 undercurrent and we all know exactly where that leads and we know what the justification for all

00:24:37.320 that stuff is and whether they try and sell you on safety it's just nonsense because you just walk 0.97

00:24:40.980 down the street and just get stabbed by a random black guy and then he gets freed the next day

00:24:44.340 so it's not about safety it's a performative contradiction to say it is um but like this is

00:24:51.400 why the energy that's being manifested and hopefully harvested that we're seeing in the

00:24:58.640 youth of the of the right and and beyond i'm not specifically you know constraining it to the youth

00:25:03.780 but that's the only force i see with enough uh enough blind rage just on its own merit to destroy

00:25:11.600 and some of the systems that they would want to, you know, sink in.

00:25:18.320 Right. Let me return, because I didn't finish that point, I realized.

00:25:22.140 I was going to say that every generation and the rage or the rebellion of them have been used.

00:25:29.640 I mean, again, maybe that's more true, you know, post-World War II.

00:25:33.940 You can go back, obviously, to, I don't know, maybe the French Revolution really harnessed the younger.

00:25:38.920 I actually don't know that specifically, but, you know, that wouldn't be out of the picture, obviously, completely.

00:25:43.540 But just as the full-on weaponization of the younger generations that happened with, like, you know, again, going way back now, but, like, MTV, you know, like, you know what I mean?

00:25:55.080 Like, like that.

00:25:55.840 I mean, look at the 60s.

00:25:56.200 Right, 60s, obviously, exactly.

00:25:57.860 Great explanation for that, yeah.

00:25:58.640 Yes, you know, LSD on the campuses.

00:26:01.780 Like, it was just a full, you know, full-on gay op, essentially, to totally subjugate the boomer generation. 0.98

00:26:07.700 And it worked, right? So I'm thinking, as I'm looking at the dynamic now, have the establishment, the elite, the older generations that have in the past weaponized younger generations lost control of Gen Z? Or is it a weaponization of them in a way that we haven't been able to kind of decode yet? Do you see what I'm saying? 0.54

00:26:26.420 yeah i i mean i guess i would say it's possible except for the fact that i think that um

00:26:35.280 i think i do have a good you i uniquely have a good barometer for the temperature of things

00:26:42.340 especially on my my side of the political divide and from even guys i've talked to not necessarily

00:26:49.000 my good friends but just people in my orbit it's a consensus almost entirely and and i've heard and

00:26:57.800 i'm 27 i think i'm the last year of gen z and um born 98 and uh even the younger kids i mean it's

00:27:07.400 probably been expedited due to what you were saying with technology that was the mechanism

00:27:12.680 that they really could get inundated with you know the andrew tates of the world and thing and

00:27:16.680 influences like that where you know it started to shift things um now whether it's being co-opted

00:27:22.040 or whether whether it's planning to be co-opted i'm sure something's on the table right because

00:27:27.560 i think this genuinely does scare them i really do so yeah they have to be be on the watch for it

00:27:35.640 yeah it would be very strange if they did just kind of drop the ball on it even if it's a i mean

00:27:41.320 it could be a time of kind of adjustment i guess to the new circumstances kind of in the way that

00:27:45.640 that they seem to be kind of be slow and playing catch up with, for example,

00:27:49.400 how kind of the anti-Israel narrative spread on TikTok, for example.

00:27:53.540 I mean, that damage done already, and it took them a while before they actually were able to do it, right?

00:27:58.520 So it could be that little delay on it, but that doesn't mean that they won't get around to it, essentially.

00:28:04.560 And, of course, then you have the other thing with it as well, where we talk about passivity, right?

00:28:09.440 That you have dropping testosterone levels among younger generations.

00:28:13.860 You have a TikTok brain, as they call it now, which is, you know, kind of ADHD, constant, you know, stimulation and can't really keep your attention for too long.

00:28:22.800 And again, it's not that everyone suffers from this, but I'm saying that these are general trends within the generations overall.

00:28:28.280 So the question is how you utilize that, right?

00:28:31.300 Like, okay, they're turning more, at least young men and specifically the white men, but, you know, more white wing.

00:28:35.920 They're becoming more like they want to do something about this, right?

00:28:39.040 is there enough oomph is is there enough energy and and and force here to to take charge what

00:28:45.960 what do you think or was it going to be a a de facto as you know as the octogenarians what do

00:28:51.360 you call them the in congress you know literally dies off you just have a younger generation that

00:28:56.680 begins to take over and eventually will be just be in a place where like oh now it's gen zers what

00:29:01.860 happens then kind of thing what what do you think well i don't think we're afforded enough time for

00:29:06.060 that, unfortunately. And, you know, I always, I probably, I probably think that things are

00:29:15.940 going to happen faster than they do in actuality. But as you kind of understand the game of the

00:29:21.420 elites of, you know, it's like the right and the left hand of the machine that are, that's

00:29:26.180 the dialectic serving its, you know, its progression down the line. I really do think

00:29:33.720 we are we're in a race between whoever controls the dominant ai that can you know infect us with 1.00

00:29:42.680 that super state super surveillance state um i you know a lot of people think that

00:29:47.280 20 30 years are going to go by and then we'll be the people in charge and then we can do things

00:29:52.520 differently but it's not things don't work that way like we're going to need a black swan event

00:29:57.080 whatever it is and it's going to come because the the fundamentals that are holding up everything

00:30:04.420 are failing and i don't see you know i mean look at immigration right yeah a lot of people will say

00:30:12.220 you know if if london stays at this rate by 20 90 they're gonna be you know 80 whatever it's like

00:30:20.040 not no trend ever continues linearly ever right so either it's going to go a hundred percent or

00:30:27.580 it's going to go like zero percent yeah right or what i'm saying it's going to be some extreme

00:30:31.900 outcome it's not going to be this oh it's going up two percent every year two percent every year

00:30:35.500 because once you reach critical mass in some regard you've changed the thing outright um and

00:30:41.120 so that actually worries me now i in your um your question about if there's enough to do this

00:30:48.700 i believe the energy is there i am concerned about how you organize under the technological

00:30:58.880 constraints at the moment yeah that's my concern but if you could organize effectively i think it's

00:31:06.320 certainly possible and it'd be probably possible right now because it feels like the advantage

00:31:10.700 first it was like oh they you know the internet shows up on the stage and again i was an early 0.58

00:31:16.880 adopter i remember those days how amazing it was you could actually find shit that like you couldn't 0.79

00:31:22.400 find you know elsewhere essentially right it was exciting it was like you know free and then social 0.54

00:31:27.080 media basically ruined the internet but now there's another of course upside to that and it was

00:31:30.740 another you know fun aspect to it but overall right it becomes extremely homogenized you had

00:31:36.160 the dot-com bubble and the power of the internet consolidated into very few hands very few tech

00:31:42.020 companies right and instead of then kind of the diversity right of everyone getting access to it

00:31:45.840 But regardless, I remember there was a period that were like, you know, they genuinely fear this.

00:31:51.160 All this information is coming out.

00:31:52.560 People were, you know, learning about 9-11, right?

00:31:55.080 Kind of like looking into the conspiracies about this. 0.99

00:31:57.660 And, you know, the Spurgs had a hate on the internet early on because it was like all the shit you couldn't find anywhere else. 0.96

00:32:02.840 There was forums and all that kind of stuff. 0.96

00:32:04.820 And then you realize after a certain point of that, and all that's good, so I'm not coming down on that.

00:32:09.580 Obviously, you need to be informed or at least have an opinion or an understanding, I guess is a better term, an understanding of the multitude maybe of angles or theories about, you know, said events or the course of history or who's in charge or things like this.

00:32:23.800 I don't think that's – but then you realize there's also passivity in endless exposure just to the information itself, right?

00:32:31.300 It now causes passivity almost where it's like people end up in like kind of analysis paralysis and we don't end up doing anything.

00:32:38.520 So again, it was a great weapon for us, and then it almost felt like the establishment, for the lack of a better term, managed to switch it on us.

00:32:48.680 It was like, oh, you're entertained by this? Here you go. Let us buy aliens.gov. How about that?

00:32:54.400 You'd like to just throw everything at it to keep us just kind of in the rat maze, I guess, right?

00:33:00.660 yeah i um i mean it's it's harder for me to contextualize given that most of my time with

00:33:09.880 the internet was more of the the basically marketing style of it right like everything

00:33:15.620 was gamified facebook had things set up to be addictive and stuff like that so it was always

00:33:20.840 commercialized for me um and that's just kind of the way i the way i always saw it but i i will say

00:33:27.240 that it i don't know how any adult parent can can really justify giving into having their kid be on

00:33:38.540 that stuff at this point right just given what we know about it yeah um and i think that but you

00:33:43.700 know here's another like i was saying before it's those who would intentionally add suffering into

00:33:50.260 their life to satisfy some underlying prerequisite for meaning like how many how many people are

00:33:56.360 gonna have the discipline to not to to boycott instagram or whatever you know it's like right

00:34:01.640 yeah the only way that you could do this would be from top-down legislation it's the only way

00:34:06.320 um but yeah because the discipline aspect of this kind of like you alluded to before is

00:34:13.560 i think a very small niche fringe kind of faction that can do it i i'd love to see it be that way

00:34:19.360 same thing with ai right like the if if we feel a threat from ai most people's response to it of

00:34:24.220 course is to just like back off and leave it alone or whatever but the actual i think correct

00:34:29.280 approach to it is you know actually learn it study it to try to you know again don't be dependent on

00:34:34.880 it don't don't end up in a situation where now you rely on it for everything obviously i'm not

00:34:38.700 saying that but at the same time if you don't understand how it functions you will never fully

00:34:44.240 be able to stand how it will try to manipulate you or take control of you or or be used kind of

00:34:49.820 in that capacity it's possible we won't even have a chance by that point because it might just be

00:34:54.860 at least you know at some point so intel or so um kind of able to outmaneuver us in terms of its

00:35:02.680 level of intelligence that we still think that we're in charge but it's totally it's not controlling

00:35:07.060 us right but i think you're right i think you're correct in terms we have a window it's a window

00:35:10.780 of opportunity it's it's swiftly closing and that's why i think we're seeing so many um you

00:35:17.980 know, things globally or internationally or within politics, even where it's like a desperation

00:35:25.300 of sorts, right?

00:35:26.300 We got to get this in before the window has closed, right?

00:35:30.460 They're talking about the, I'll go back to the 2030, you know, agenda 2030 has been a

00:35:35.280 big thing.

00:35:36.020 Many people talk about it.

00:35:37.300 Again, it's almost like kind of forgotten now because there's been so many other things,

00:35:40.720 especially under Trump in America, right?

00:35:42.820 with like ICE deportations and raids

00:35:45.380 and kind of an open anti-immigration stance or whatnot, right?

00:35:48.560 And these are, of course, great things, right?

00:35:50.840 We've seen like, oh, they're talking about these things now.

00:35:53.480 They're actually doing it, right?

00:35:55.400 However, I'm not sure if you agree with this,

00:35:56.860 but what I'm seeing now then with the kind of

00:35:58.880 how the Trump administration is being discredited,

00:36:01.880 it's almost like I'm seeing those things

00:36:04.280 being bundled into Trumpism, essentially,

00:36:08.720 and potentially just being rejected wholesale

00:36:12.240 as we go into the 2028 election, the brown wave or whatever it is, right?

00:36:16.960 That like never again, we did this thing with the deportations.

00:36:21.100 Do you see what I'm saying?

00:36:21.880 Right?

00:36:22.880 100%.

00:36:23.320 Well, you know, I mean, I picked up on this a little bit

00:36:26.880 when Minneapolis specifically was happening

00:36:31.040 because there was no argument to be made

00:36:36.540 that the most effective way to wield executive power

00:36:39.680 was for pam bondy to send a letter to tim waltz right and and and have these horribly marketed 0.53

00:36:48.720 standoffs that entirely made the trump administration look bad it was they were

00:36:56.180 they were inciting the left to the highest degree possible while getting the nothing minimal result

00:37:02.820 results possible exactly and when somebody's doing the opposite of what they should be doing

00:37:07.740 it's not like a little bit off you know maybe they they went to the wrong part of town to do

00:37:11.980 it first well they take the approach to get that result which literally would be the worst outcome

00:37:18.220 for them and the best outcome for our you know enemy of the left um what does that tell you well

00:37:24.620 obviously they have something else going on behind the scenes or they're so incompetent

00:37:30.380 but but if that's the case well then they've discredited their ability to be there already

00:37:34.220 um and so you do look at those things and you know i think i even made that argument that this

00:37:41.180 might be a a attempt to move the overton window back to where people stop talking about yep you

00:37:49.120 know uh mass deportation so absolutely yeah no it's very strange exactly yeah the semaphore piece

00:37:55.080 it was like because again i think initially it's just like it's great to have the rhetoric it's

00:38:00.000 great to have the discussion about it i saw the old ladies at the rnc standing with mass deportation 0.99

00:38:05.080 now signs and that's a necessary step to just kind of cross the hurdle in terms of your not that i

00:38:10.920 had it but many people probably had like oh is this you know they get um cold feet maybe really

00:38:16.220 quickly if they squirmish if they see some of these deportations happening or whatever but you

00:38:20.100 gotta at least you have to you know recognize the problem first talk about it normalize it right

00:38:24.740 but then you realize it was like we've got none of it but the liberal side now then the liberal

00:38:32.580 press if you will have probably an easier time than ever to look at well the debacle of everything

00:38:40.920 obviously but they it presented like as a you know super hardcore anti-immigration movement

00:38:46.700 it presented almost as a white nationalist uh you know america first type of policy right there's a

00:38:52.420 couple of headlines right we saw how the department of labor uh the official department of homeland

00:38:57.480 security would specifically ice you know uh accounts were posting kind of this like i used to

00:39:04.400 i like to call it like how a leftist view like nazi fetish if that makes sense like the the

00:39:11.160 90s 1950s family with an american flag why do i'm saying like that's the it was white presenting and

00:39:18.420 some of the headlines of course is like there's abc i think it's not australia but still like how

00:39:22.280 the u.s government use white supremacist materials and memes to hire an army of ice agents the white 0.63

00:39:29.020 nationalism at the heart of trump's foreign policy i i don't think anyone will disagree that

00:39:34.100 currently whatever the plan is everyone looking at the foreign policy and what's happening now

00:39:38.520 with iran and the strait of hormuz energy like it's a it's a debacle right it's a total disaster

00:39:44.380 and so now you can take all of those things and say we're never we tried that look at what happened

00:39:50.440 when the white man is in charge everybody let's reject that now and so i can see that it's a super

00:39:56.100 easy pushback towards like international again internationalism again or like you know uh opening

00:40:02.020 the borders like this can be undone so quickly that the few things it was was done right absolutely

00:40:08.720 you know another thing that i noticed which would support your theory there is the fact that the

00:40:16.040 mainstream media is framing Trump's low approval numbers as a unambiguous denunciation of his

00:40:24.960 administrative, you know, work because he went too far. Right. And that we're uncomfortable

00:40:33.120 with it when in actuality, no, we want Caesar. We want Caesar. And he's not. No. And so, and,

00:40:40.100 but, and you see that if that's what they're going to try and manufacture the narrative to be,

00:40:46.040 so be it because let's say you know our side of the right which is not the largest we're never

00:40:51.820 going to ever get the uh the microphone to contest that anyway so they can actually just spin that 0.52

00:40:57.740 narrative however they want and then they bring on their you know fake right-wing guy token and he

00:41:02.380 agrees that yes trump is going too far you know and then everyone says okay now that's that's

00:41:07.940 we're not that country now we don't do that anymore yeah at the risk of sounding like someone

00:41:13.640 who thinks that every single thing is micromanaged by an elite or something like that.

00:41:17.960 And, of course, look, it's possible.

00:41:20.120 I won't say it's impossible, but I think they're trying at least, right?

00:41:23.640 So there's things happening in the world.

00:41:25.500 Obviously, there are, like, unforeseen things, and then there's a course correction,

00:41:29.600 and there's an adjustment, and whoops, let's get, you know, I get all those things, right?

00:41:33.400 But I still think the point, I still think it's a point that's well made,

00:41:37.780 that, like, you had two, you know, terms of Obama

00:41:43.600 and the level of, like, kind of anti-whiteness

00:41:48.200 that came out of that overall from, like, you know, 2008 to 2016.

00:41:54.200 There was a genuine grassroots opposition to that.

00:41:57.860 I think there was a, you know, you had, like, the Tea Party forming.

00:42:00.700 You had kind of, I mean, the 3% says goes back further than that,

00:42:03.940 but that's when they, you know, Oath Keepers.

00:42:05.700 There was things like this popping up in the U.S., and I think at some point the establishment realized, look, if these white people are, for good reason, and genuinely, correctly so, getting pissed off here, we got to offer them something or someone.

00:42:23.080 Like, if we don't do it, they will come up with them themselves, you know, kind of thing.

00:42:27.980 And I think that it's a high potential here that, you know, with Trump being bailed out by Wilbur Ross and his relation to Roy Cohn and, of course, all the, you know, Chabadniks and the Howard Lutniks and all that kind of backdrops to where they were like, you know, he's a good guy. 0.97

00:42:43.680 He can be the scapegoi, the white guy, fall guy here, you know, and we can bundle all the genuine white rage into his administration, kind of turn it into a clown show. 0.60

00:42:55.220 And instead of having like, because there was an opportunity here, I genuinely think so. 0.95

00:42:59.120 There was an opportunity to do things professionally and correctly, go after the employers, just like the semaphore piece said that, right, with the deportations.

00:43:06.240 Go to the farms, the hotel, like, you know, where all these people, the meat packaging plants or something.

00:43:13.680 don't turn it into this kind of theater in the inner cities where like what what i mean the all

00:43:19.740 for all the protest and shit show in la i think it was something like maybe 10 000 people at the 0.58

00:43:25.360 end of that they got you know criminally legal aliens managed to depot what was the yield what 0.86

00:43:29.780 was the outcome from that so anyway at the risk of just sounding like everything is controlled

00:43:33.100 don't even try that's not what i mean either obviously but i'm saying hindsight i can kind

00:43:37.560 of see that that's how regardless if that was the plan or not that's kind of how it's played out

00:43:41.120 yeah you can connect the dots for sure yeah so anyway uh it's it's very interesting i think i

00:43:48.240 think it's a it's an interesting time because we're seeing things happening with iran and

00:43:53.260 kind of a decoupling from europe which is an interesting thing for me too looking at european

00:43:57.340 nationalism how europe will be able to rise up because undoubtedly the same forces that have

00:44:01.720 occupied the american political system uh has obviously been restrictive in in europe as well

00:44:08.160 right we're all suffering from having an elite that ultimately don't care about us right and so

00:44:13.000 the NATO system uh America being dominant in terms of like the uh international pressure through NATO

00:44:19.720 obviously in Europe but other things as well the petrodollar and things like that looks like all

00:44:23.340 of that's kind of I'm not saying it's implode tomorrow but it's like the credibility of of

00:44:27.860 America internationally too is is kind of crumbling wouldn't you say like totally it's

00:44:31.900 is that the place is that the intention do you think or what do you think they're playing with

00:44:35.280 there it kind of seems like they've set trump up to be i don't know if you're familiar with this 0.99

00:44:41.140 but in the last like 20 years 30 years probably the classic family sitcom had you know the stupid 0.99

00:44:49.260 dad that the mom had to correct on everything and he was just a bumbling idiot right and they're 1.00

00:44:55.160 trying to it seems whether they did this intentionally or not they're having trump 0.99

00:44:59.780 fit that archetype and then giving him the position of the most powerful man in the world

00:45:05.700 to then destroy our credibility and destroy men's credibility and say like this is what happens when 1.00

00:45:12.240 that's what that's what your apex man is and he's an absolute moron you know it's like 0.98

00:45:17.620 we may come out of this and trump may have wrecked the american reputation more than joe biden 0.99

00:45:27.380 yes which is quite something astounding if that's the case it's just getting the point is it's

00:45:34.340 getting worse and worse and worse no matter how we try to fix things politically or like people

00:45:38.820 let's vote for this guy it just gets well i think so and i think i think what pervades our society

00:45:45.480 right now in the west particularly in america is just this this lack of accountability this

00:45:51.800 lack of responsibility and this misunderstanding about where are the levers of power they must

00:45:58.760 exist things are moving but when biden comes out and he like can't even say his name on a live

00:46:05.960 debate and you know yeah struggles to get off of the stage who's running the country then that's

00:46:13.420 it's not him but we don't even know that no you know and um and i think we're all we're all

00:46:19.280 suffering from this um this like starvation for we just want to know what is actually happening

00:46:26.680 you know well and and really and i think the the powers that be kind of a gay term but let's let's

00:46:33.360 use it all aloud um they uh they thrive in in in in confusion and in uncertainty and you know as i

00:46:41.420 said before going back to that point that like with that kind of chaotic conditions or whatnot

00:46:46.060 Now, people do generally overall end up kind of in a fear mode.

00:46:49.220 I can even feel as much as I like to kind of analyze things or whatever.

00:46:52.320 I was looking at energy markets, fertilizer shortages. 0.99

00:46:55.500 And again, like this, like, shit, you know what? 0.99

00:46:58.480 This could turn, maybe they'll do it this time. 0.99

00:47:00.480 You brought up the COVID stuff.

00:47:01.520 And I think it's hard, right?

00:47:04.820 Because in one way, you can argue the problem is they didn't go far enough, right?

00:47:09.620 Because if they would have gone far enough and actually pushed people over the edge,

00:47:13.880 i think we we could have actually gone gotten somewhere yeah but they did they pulled back

00:47:19.000 just in the right time to make sure that that didn't happen you know yeah and then they retcon

00:47:23.880 it too right as if right if uh it was all oh well we didn't know what was going on we just had to

00:47:28.920 take extra precautionary measures no sorry that's not what you did just two weeks to flatten the

00:47:34.840 curve there's two weeks to uh we're gonna bomb iran it's always this it's the same same means

00:47:41.880 keep repeating time loop you know yeah they can't even i mean it's insulting that they can't even

00:47:48.120 update their propaganda no they're not very creative in that way are they i think i think

00:47:52.920 it's a human humiliation ritual to say like it feels like we can get you again and again and

00:47:57.880 again with the same thing and you guys aren't gonna do it what are you gonna do about it

00:48:01.960 exactly it goes back to my point of all the with all the information right kind of thing

00:48:06.200 but what's happening right well what do we do you know what are we doing with it and things are

00:48:09.400 slowly degrading and slowly getting worse now i you know again i i i get it it it's hard right

00:48:15.400 even for you know the few that kind of have that vision or whatever to you know going to battle by

00:48:21.340 yourself before you've organized an army it's not just you know it's just you know there's nothing

00:48:25.600 brave about it that's just dumb essentially right so we are binding our time we're trying to

00:48:29.420 uh as your name of your channel on youtube implies build a coalition right like of actually

00:48:34.780 you know strengthening our our numbers and getting to a point where we realize okay either

00:48:41.440 you know again i've given up much you know a lot more like trying to salvage something on the

00:48:46.440 national stage but i'm thinking more locally now smaller where people are at you know trying to

00:48:52.340 build something kind of from the ground up and and foundations do you think that do you think

00:48:56.720 that's something uh that that is a driver within gen z overall or is it because when i'm looking

00:49:04.600 from the outside it's been this and it could be misdirected i know there's many different views

00:49:10.580 on this internally obviously as it always is but it was like this we'll kind of infiltrate the

00:49:14.880 political system we'll put our guys in place we'll try to you know steer the ship in this kind of

00:49:19.300 direction uh from the outside that feels what has been a part of the objective objective of genc of

00:49:25.540 like trying to kind of take over the political so maybe that's just fuentes you know it's like yeah

00:49:29.860 he was driving that line for a while it was like we'll put our guys in place we'll cooperate with

00:49:34.340 these people and kind of nudge our way in there yeah um well the problem the problem with that

00:49:39.800 is if you don't understand where the levers of power are there then you don't have much of a

00:49:44.420 plan you know it's one thing if you if you understand the general hierarchy of a certain

00:49:49.280 company or corporation and you know you know the the scope that each position is um responsible for

00:49:56.320 and you know what you can do functionally when you get into that position but i don't think anybody

00:50:01.100 has a clue of of any of these positions what the extent of their power is what the extent of the

00:50:07.100 control behind it is what the extent of the blackmail is all of that it's a total wild card

00:50:11.480 so that to me that approach strikes me initially as a bit um not cowardly but not probably for

00:50:21.160 forthright enough actually it's a nice i probably willfully naive because you can't actually

00:50:30.900 articulate a plan besides like well maybe when we get there we can do something we'll see um not

00:50:35.800 that your plan has to be totally like dotted out perfectly but you do need to know like if if a then

00:50:42.900 be you know right um to actually give you some some direction now i i think what we were talking

00:50:49.200 about previously about the youth and culture more generally i think the way that you would incite i

00:50:57.280 I mean, the way I conclude my perceptions of, as you were saying, over the years, over the different revolutions, over the different societal episodes of turmoil, they have all capitalized on the youth, often spreads to workers, you know, and then that's where you get your massive body.

00:51:19.240 Now, the only way that I can see doing that in the modern world is if some form of pop culture can get taken over by the right.

00:51:29.740 And my comparison would be like, imagine a right-wing 1960s movement.

00:51:37.540 Right.

00:51:38.440 Because you can't, like intellectually and argumentatively, what we say actually doesn't move the needle for most people.

00:51:47.860 you have to give the feeling and you have to be already put on a pedestal so that you have

00:51:53.640 people looking at you and want to hear what you what you have to say regardless like eight months

00:51:58.080 ago you wouldn't have even wanted to hear what i had to say because i have nothing back in me

00:52:01.840 um and so if we can find a way whatever that looks like some type of scene that's prominent

00:52:09.180 and i do think the political commentary stuff i mean fuentes is proving it tucker's proving it

00:52:13.300 in its own right that that there is a great appetite for that but can you mobilize that

00:52:17.620 into actual action because if we do not and we remain in the underground we will always have

00:52:25.420 the dismissal from the mainstream and you almost have to be too talented to where you can't be

00:52:32.120 denied you know right yeah go ahead no the the issue has been that the rot inside of the system

00:52:43.000 right seeking legitimacy i get it in terms of popularity and then to grow your numbers right

00:52:47.880 but seeking maybe not just legitimacy within the system but like any type of influence or or

00:52:54.960 recognition or or like getting a foot in through the door in some type of mainstream kind of

00:53:00.480 institution or media whatever you want to call it right the problem with that is like it's run by

00:53:07.140 like epstein pedophiles how do you you will know if you don't compromise to that and to them you 0.65

00:53:16.800 will not get into that world is what i'm saying so so no i yeah you know but i think what you're

00:53:21.240 saying is and i'm not saying that's what you're saying but that's the problem with that you know

00:53:25.560 approach to it so what you are saying if i'm hearing that correctly it's like it needs to

00:53:31.540 be outside of that but at the same time for it to get popularity and recognition and notice you

00:53:37.380 still need to tap do you see i'm saying or at least you need to piss off the mainstream enough 0.61

00:53:42.160 i guess to get attention right yeah or you set up some this is why i say like whoever these people

00:53:48.540 are have to be so talented that they cannot be denied because um they would have to do it

00:53:54.820 externally to your point but i think with the mechanism of the internet being such a great

00:54:01.160 facilitator of you know information you could do it through through there but again this comes down

00:54:07.260 to what is the extent of the control mechanism already in place we don't even know that so maybe

00:54:13.560 it's totally not possible at all maybe they'll just cut but you know i mean i've grown pretty

00:54:17.420 big and no one's come after me so it can't be like a complete clampdown um you know so i'm

00:54:26.440 optimistic in the sense that i see a way it's not hopeless in my eyes but

00:54:33.800 i don't even because of how the government is situated here i don't even know how you

00:54:42.440 could transfer powers to uh basically a single executive yeah no i don't think you can in its

00:54:50.580 current kind of configuration right i think it's impossible well not through its channels but i

00:54:55.180 mean even if you didn't like even if you subverted it whatever you did like what Gaddafi did in 0.65

00:55:00.360 Libya or something like that um look at what happened to him right yeah but I don't even know

00:55:06.720 I just you know I think we're all so in the dark on the actual mechanics of everything and that's

00:55:12.800 by design oh no definitely absolutely um well yeah you mentioned it's an interesting thing

00:55:19.500 because I know you have a you brought up Peterson you have a thing on obviously on Rogan in the book

00:55:23.900 right um i was watching your video on your youtube about tucker and i think we share some concerns

00:55:29.820 here and i mean from our point of view said no one has come after you so we've been doing this

00:55:33.500 for a long time we had 333 subs on youtube banned debanked d platform can't use payment processor

00:55:40.780 completely pushed out of basically everything right so censorship works that's the first

00:55:45.820 level to it right now we're still here we have a great audience with very supportive and whatnot

00:55:49.980 But it's true, right? There's no reason to deny it that if we would have been on the YouTubes and have access to what other people like Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson or, you know, any of these people have access to in terms of their YouTubes and payment processors and reach and all that stuff, we'd probably do pretty well and be out there even more, right?

00:56:11.720 But I think it goes back to something fundamentally about authenticity,

00:56:16.400 and you're bringing this up in your video about Tucker, right,

00:56:19.460 of him basically being one of these people's champions,

00:56:22.800 that continuously they need to put these individuals in front of us

00:56:27.540 in order to offer us someone that can address your concerns

00:56:31.760 and speak to you or for you, but then at the same time go,

00:56:36.200 maybe as a tucker in that case go right kind of up the towards the line where kind of the

00:56:42.560 acceptable line is and even kind of cross it in some regards right but not really offering you

00:56:50.100 the solutions to what would get us out of that situation and and what i mean by that i want your

00:56:55.360 take on this obviously but i just we just did a segment for uh one of our western warrior shows

00:56:59.440 and we had a you know we kind of wrote down our main critiques of tucker carlson and to briefly

00:57:04.560 reiterate that it's basically i'll summarize it like this as short as i can he's doing great work

00:57:09.920 in like obviously now with like exposing israeli uh stranglehold on american politics you know

00:57:16.320 zionism these kinds of things right which is great fantastic right but he's had this continuous um

00:57:24.320 denunciation of anything that has to do with you know ethnic kinship and white nationalism or

00:57:31.120 white people organizing and taking back our power which which i therefore thinks think at this point

00:57:36.960 makes a tucker carlson one of the most dangerous people that we have out there i i agree with him

00:57:43.040 on many things but but his and ironically when he's attacked by a mark levin or a laura loomer

00:57:49.200 or randy fine whatever it is a shuck shoe whatever whoever it is that actually grants him and gives

00:57:54.880 him the authenticity and credibility that is so much necessary for a tucker carlson right now

00:57:59.520 right i know you have a lot to say on this but yeah share your thoughts on this yeah um no that

00:58:06.000 that's that's absolutely the case and i think i think wherever tucker is is probably the indicator

00:58:15.380 of where they're allowing the conversation to be at any given time and you know i i have two

00:58:24.680 theories on tucker one is that he is good faith and he really is you know america first really

00:58:35.680 trying to do xyz but he can't because of the position he's in he's too big to to break from

00:58:45.260 all the other you know conditioning of every everything else um but he's trying to do things

00:58:53.700 behind the scenes but what my problem with his with him is fundamentally is he will preach things

00:58:59.440 like authenticity and honesty and then totally lie or totally omit things that he you know when

00:59:05.740 he was saying that nick fuentes was the person that told him that his dad was in the cia

00:59:10.620 are you kidding me he didn't know that before yeah and and then you know like he's what 56

00:59:17.880 Oh, he just got smart to Israel a year and a half ago.

00:59:21.220 Boy.

00:59:24.060 He's an acceptable steam valve.

00:59:27.440 He comes from the mainstream news world, Fox News.

00:59:30.000 A lot of these people actually do now.

00:59:31.340 If you look at the main, that was the trick they did on the internet, right?

00:59:34.740 We have this, this is our, anyone can speak now on the internet.

00:59:38.440 Everyone can have a voice, you know, kind of thing.

00:59:40.080 But what happened?

00:59:40.720 Most of it has been replaced, but, you know, even a Russell brand or say like, you know,

00:59:44.180 these types of people, right?

00:59:45.320 That they kind of wheel in front of us to like here and have your, I mean, even Steve Bannon, right?

00:59:50.340 He's some kind of like outsider when everything we've learned about his close relationship to Epstein and all that stuff, right?

00:59:57.020 Then he goes and does his shows raving about the global pedophile elites and stuff.

01:00:00.400 And he's like, we learn he's like one of the best buddies with Epstein.

01:00:03.200 And so it's totally unreal.

01:00:05.120 It's unbelievable, right?

01:00:06.240 But so they've like packed, they're taking up all the air in the room.

01:00:09.720 I mean, I get it. This is not something like, this is not me saying a referee should come in here and blow the whistle and give, you know, these people a foul.

01:00:17.540 Look, I get that. That's not what's going to happen.

01:00:19.360 I'm just observing, like, they're pushing these individuals in front of us, and they are not banned.

01:00:25.820 They are not censored. They are not restricted.

01:00:28.460 People talk shit about them, but that gives them the credibility. 0.88

01:00:31.360 In a world desperately where they know that there's so many fake oppositions and controlled narratives and stuff like that, the only way you can really kind of create that authenticity is to attack them the way a Randy Fine attacks a Tucker Carlson, for example. 0.99

01:00:44.400 That lends him that credibility that he so desperately needs.

01:00:47.420 And that's hard for people to figure out.

01:00:48.880 I get that, you know?

01:00:51.100 Yeah.

01:00:51.500 Yeah. And, you know, the fact that he's never had a bad word to say about J.D. Vance, but like J.D. Vance really is kind of a fundamental lever in that whole operation. Something's off.

01:01:06.440 Something's off. I don't know what. I really don't know what. But something is certainly off.

01:01:11.000 When you can have a Tucker so astutely and correctly recognize the demographic issues and were brought to the brink of extinction in terms of our demographics and replacement migration and all these things, when there's this, look, if he has some plan to slowly drip feed his audience to get him to a point where, you know, one day he just like, we'll just drop it and just say like, hey, look, white people, we just need to organize kind of thing, right?

01:01:35.120 Okay, respect two of them.

01:01:36.200 But at this point, I'm not seeing it.

01:01:37.720 And therefore, it becomes a job of people like me and so many others out there

01:01:40.640 that are still kind of, you know, we're here, we have an audience,

01:01:43.320 but we're obviously much more marginalized than a Tucker Carlson

01:01:46.420 and some of these other people.

01:01:47.740 We have to push on them hard to say,

01:01:49.420 why are you not talking about the solutions here?

01:01:52.840 Why are you so hostile?

01:01:54.360 I don't know how many clips I've played with Tucker.

01:01:56.700 Well, you know, they want really what they want.

01:01:59.380 I forget what it was, TPUSA event or something.

01:02:01.280 This was a while ago, but it was up on stage with, like, Tim Pool

01:02:03.320 and i think it was charlie kirk and some other people right and they were talking about like how

01:02:07.880 the elites really kind of want secretly want white people to you know cooperate and work together and

01:02:14.800 start you know pushing back against it just like no that's the furthest from the truth you can

01:02:18.660 possibly get like that that's what they're most afraid of and that's what they're trying to

01:02:22.160 prevent right so i'm not seeing that like okay well fine point out the problems but what do we

01:02:26.740 do what do we do about it then yes well yeah i i'm sure you've noticed this i can't remember who

01:02:31.680 made this uh perception but they said essentially that the problem with the right is everybody wants

01:02:39.040 to be the next complainer in chief they want to be the next rush limbaugh but nobody wants to

01:02:43.980 actually take on responsibility and accountability and do anything of substance and i was talking to

01:02:51.440 kevin de anna about this too it really seems to me like a lot of the prominent people on the right

01:02:57.060 and i i would say more mainstream on the right not like dissident spheres they despite what they

01:03:04.500 will tell you their ideal outcome would be the new york times coming out and writing an article

01:03:11.460 about them that says they're actually not so bad after all what did marjorie taylor green do right 0.53

01:03:15.380 after she left maga tell all to the new york times and so they're captured by this they're desperate

01:03:22.660 for this legitimacy to be bestowed upon them by these old gods, these old institutions.

01:03:29.100 And I don't, one, I don't think that certainly my cohort is totally divorced from that most

01:03:37.400 fundamentally, but no one's selling any solutions anyway. And that's what we're desperate for. And

01:03:45.320 that's our challenge to the people like Tucker and others of, I can't just keep listening to

01:03:52.640 podcast about you reiterating the same point with another guest you know that that contextualizes

01:04:00.180 nothing and also you pull back right when you would make any declarative statement that would

01:04:04.900 actually apply the principles that you say you believe in um that's what bothers me the most

01:04:09.600 like they won't even take their ideas to their logical conclusion you know right yeah so then

01:04:14.320 what are we even doing well as you said we what they are doing then is to distract us and string

01:04:22.280 us along for as long as possible so that we will not actually get out of the hole that they're

01:04:27.960 digging for us and that's and that's why i think it is that well it's the same thing and you know

01:04:31.960 she's done great stuff in the in the past obviously but uh lana just did a video on um

01:04:37.640 uh eva vlardinger brooke by the way when she went on tucker same thing there i'd be trying to find 1.00

01:04:42.120 the video here i couldn't know it was it when he asked who's who's doing this yeah and it was like

01:04:46.920 nothing i i would have even i even would have not accepted because i think that would be

01:04:51.880 technically wrong but i would have what am i saying i wouldn't have criticized it as hard if

01:04:57.220 she had said like well it's the muslims doing it then or so or like the world economic forum or

01:05:01.840 the un or something you know i mean but there was nothing i i have no respect for her at all

01:05:07.260 no not at this rate absolutely not um it's it's very it's strange right and but then you realize

01:05:13.600 these are the voices that have then become uh you know kind of the people's champions and they're

01:05:18.580 they're going to address these issues for us or whatever but like why can't you just say white

01:05:23.880 nations for white people like white man fight back folk first get into get into get organized

01:05:29.780 get active start organizing local in your community start pushing back do what you can right there's

01:05:34.740 very it's very little that has to be done in terms of the rhetoric in order to just kind of

01:05:39.600 make that switch happen in their audience's mind of like yeah they're right like we should start

01:05:45.120 organizing the way every other ethnic group is organizing inside of our countries why not right

01:05:49.560 why is this such a crime and tucker goes back to this like ideological thing almost like this

01:05:53.960 i know he brings up his religion quite often as well of like still this kind of episcopalian

01:06:00.220 egalitarianism kind of weaved into that critique right that almost the critique of of israel might

01:06:08.140 is almost more over like kind of religious reasons and there's i i get it if you're of his religion

01:06:14.160 But there's so much more you can say.

01:06:17.160 These are also people that are running international organizations that are designed to replace white people in Europe and America, like HIAS or like Israel.

01:06:26.660 And it's not ambiguous.

01:06:27.520 No, it's absolutely not.

01:06:29.160 And this is not hard to figure out.

01:06:31.200 You can find this really easily, you know what I mean?

01:06:33.580 Especially these days.

01:06:35.260 Yeah, and I mean that tells you just about everything you need to know on it. 0.87

01:06:39.100 um because if they're ignorant of that then they're like declaratively retarded so then why 0.99

01:06:45.460 are we listening to them at all um and if they won't say it that means that they have another

01:06:50.420 master yes that that you know doesn't actually care about solving the problem which would imply

01:06:56.900 that it's probably that person you know and i think that's about the trends of these things

01:07:01.920 going back to the point that in the same way that they provided kind of a trump to derail those

01:07:07.380 things the same way they provide um champions and uh you know steam valves that can release 0.97

01:07:15.860 the pressure i mean it tucker even right he did write that book right ship of fools which was

01:07:20.100 like um he's as you pointed out in your video it was great great uh job of you know pulling that 0.94

01:07:25.980 together of um of him being an elitist he you know a trust fund you know baby he's he's never

01:07:35.580 had a hard and you know Tom in his life really as far as we can tell more than maybe now then or

01:07:41.280 something but even the persona that you said that it's this very hey I'm gonna I'm gonna go fishing

01:07:46.520 now and here's my log here's my you know this performative kind of way that he puts on the

01:07:52.080 everyday man type of costume to try to appeal to like the outdoorsy American white man or something

01:07:57.780 right that's what it is exactly it's performative totally so he's trying to do that in order to

01:08:04.120 stay relevant and be a guy who can be there and hold you i think the point i made in the

01:08:09.080 segment i just recorded on this was he will hold you in in in uh in your hand and lead you towards

01:08:16.420 the you and your and our children to to the door of extinction you know and just like well it's

01:08:23.680 all right i'm i'm right here with you you know but it's like can't we do anything about this

01:08:27.460 can't we what what you know and it's not much that would have to be said you know um anyway

01:08:32.660 maybe i'm maybe i'm harping too hard on this but it frustrates me i mean legitimately and honestly

01:08:38.440 this is well because i you know yeah i i i drove like four hours to go watch tucker speak uh when

01:08:46.560 he was on the campaign trail for trump and i was like i mean this is like what two or three years

01:08:50.920 ago um but and i was in my head i was like you know because the rumors about tucker being some

01:08:57.440 agent or whatever it actually is is independent of the label for it but in my head i thought well

01:09:04.460 if he is then they're so good at this that we should probably just give up because this guy

01:09:09.940 seems like he really cares he's really authentic and then the next two years it just pretty much

01:09:14.740 falls apart if you're paying attention so i mean i took it personally almost of like i he's he had

01:09:22.100 me for a little bit you know no definitely no i get it sorry just taking a sip of water here yeah

01:09:28.580 no i get it um so we got tucker what tell us a little bit about what you wrote about rogan because

01:09:33.880 i see him very much in the same way like spotify contracts hundreds of millions he was i used to

01:09:38.460 be i used to go on a network i think it was called was this truth truth stream um not media that's

01:09:47.000 another outlet what was it it was it was something to that effect it was something truth something

01:09:50.860 broadcast or stream or something anyway is that where his original one was on or what

01:09:55.460 he went on there as a guest i forget if that was the original but he went on there as a guest

01:10:00.180 number of time and i even forget the guy who who ran it now i had him on the show a couple of times

01:10:05.000 and he had me on his show a few times as well um it was like early days he was into kind of the

01:10:10.360 well he's always been obviously like the the acid the lsd the mush the shrooms you know kind of

01:10:15.520 right and it was one show in particular where we had a guest on um to kind of talk about like the

01:10:22.700 cia backdrop to like pushing drugs and pushing psychedelics and stuff and again it's not a

01:10:27.840 wholesale dismissal that is like nothing that maybe there's an application that but regardless

01:10:31.640 the point was to to bring it you know to the attention of people listening that is like hey

01:10:35.720 here's like a joe rogan back in the day before he blew up like the way he did on on youtube with

01:10:40.560 the show um but he wasn't a fear factor he was a host again mainstream tv personality type of

01:10:47.160 he's comes from that world again which is i was that interesting right uh but he was pushing

01:10:51.740 these things about like drugs and dmt and you know all these kinds of things kind of all alternative

01:10:56.420 history type of topics and stuff and i'm i've enjoyed some of that myself i've covered some

01:11:01.080 of that myself in the past going way back but anyway um he he went out hard i think after

01:11:06.560 lana because she had one who interviewed um john ervin who who came out and speaking up against

01:11:12.720 joe rogan about all the drug you know the drug use and this is some cia front op or whatever

01:11:17.360 but he came out he ended up of course kind of blowing up getting these massive cons

01:11:22.100 spotify deals hundreds of million but he became like a spokesperson for all those ideas

01:11:28.120 and i think it's and i think it's a lot of it has a lot to do with who says it not even

01:11:34.360 what in some case not even what's being said but who says it right so we can't have someone

01:11:39.720 who can go off the rail that we don't control that we don't have a holdover or something like

01:11:45.120 that because they can go off and all of a sudden they start giving people actual ideas about stuff

01:11:49.540 exactly do something well that i mean that's what's i mean kind of speaks to what i was saying

01:11:54.520 earlier where you know the argumentation of it doesn't really matter it's it's the underlying

01:12:01.620 message that you can sell and that's almost inextricable from the person selling the message

01:12:07.260 absolutely yeah the um the you as the medium are the message and in many regards um if you're if

01:12:14.680 you're playing an angle but the way i spoke about rogan in the book i framed the rogan sphere of like

01:12:23.260 2015 to 2018, 2019, which was the intellectual dark web. But I framed it as in accordance with

01:12:34.140 the hero's journey. This is your meeting the mentors phase. So broadly speaking, generationally,

01:12:40.100 you know, we've got like Jordan Peterson comes in and, you know, just as Trump offered us

01:12:45.080 authenticity in his, or what appeared to be authenticity in 20, in his 2015 run to ultimate

01:12:52.700 election in 2016 um peterson offered us a spiritual side of the world which up until that

01:13:02.020 point we had only understood the world through the mechanical lens that it had been applied for us

01:13:07.100 throughout our childhood and rogan was the consolidator of all of those

01:13:13.660 characters and they basically and this was clearly done intentionally because barry

01:13:21.840 weiss in the new york times was the one that essentially anointed them as the intellectual

01:13:26.720 renegades of our day right and what that did fundamentally was it positioned them in a manner

01:13:35.040 that gave them legitimacy amongst the broad populace and but they were just deviant enough

01:13:44.340 from the they were just heterodox enough to kind of instigate some interest by like young men

01:13:56.940 because we were seeing something that from our perception was oppositional to the extremely

01:14:04.060 leftist gay culture at the time but what what will you find what we found in this in this journey

01:14:11.120 and there was very many things that that played this out um but their reaction to because they

01:14:18.060 they founded themselves and they promoted themselves as these classical liberals i'm

01:14:22.240 free speech absolutist you know no government tyranny i'm a free man well then the coronavirus

01:14:29.240 comes around and almost all of them buckle right away then george floyd comes around almost all of

01:14:34.740 them buckle right away you know then biden comes around and then you have sam harris saying the 0.98

01:14:40.260 adults are back in charge and you know trump is the most deranged maniac that's ever lived

01:14:45.300 um and then what you what we found was they weren't actually addressing the real consequential 0.84

01:14:53.000 questions they were fine at giving us kind of a broad rundown of how you know you shouldn't trust

01:14:59.500 the man man but they were not ever dealing with you know realities of like are gender differences

01:15:06.800 distinct enough to warrant different treatment between the two are racial differences different

01:15:12.080 enough to warrant different treatment or separation between the races never hear him talk about that

01:15:18.800 and so what we found i think beyond 2020 probably beyond 2022 really was that these guys had been

01:15:26.640 almost like the opposite of a trojan horse like they weren't ushering in anything new they were

01:15:30.640 trying to damn the water for us to to not go further um they wanted to stop us right there

01:15:36.000 You guys are classical liberals, and you believe in the vision of the founders. And really, we believe in the Civil Rights Act. That's your constitution. But as we got exposed to more, especially with the rise of Tate and Fuentes, we understood that we had kind of been sold diet masculinity is how I described it.

01:16:00.080 And they, there was no, there was no integration of bringing those ideas to their logical conclusion.

01:16:11.280 Like Jordan would say, Jordan would basically say that, well, men and women are different, but women should still be able to do absolutely anything they want and have a career and have kids, but they'd be happier if they didn't. 0.78

01:16:27.620 um and we got fed up with this whole shilling game of like what do you if you're putting forward

01:16:39.840 ideas that contradict the status quo presumptions but you're not actually saying that there should

01:16:45.760 be any deviant conclusions to come from them then what are you playing you're just playing a shell

01:16:51.160 game um and and so we discarded all those guys and hey i haven't listened to rogan in years um

01:16:56.740 but i i think for the time they they did capitalize on quite a bit that energy that

01:17:03.440 we were talking about previously like at that time that energy was certainly blossoming and i

01:17:08.260 think it got it got taken and um uh like cooled down under their supervision yeah um oh boy i

01:17:21.740 i have a lot to say about this but it's an interesting thing that you bring up there

01:17:26.620 because there's i think there's a two i say there's two aspects one is the yeah the dark

01:17:31.500 is it the dark enlightenment was that what it's called the dark web of the enlightenment what was

01:17:36.920 the intellectual dark web intellectual dark but that's what they used that's right yeah oh yeah

01:17:41.980 exactly because he again tangentially related to that whole crew right and getting enough of that

01:17:48.160 you know this is like a this is always what it's been this is the same thing going back to how you

01:17:53.700 hijack uh revolutionary spirits among younger generations then it's like hey this Marilyn

01:18:00.200 Manson guy is really dangerous and edgy and you should definitely not listen to him like you're

01:18:04.260 just promoting him now like you know that right this is the same thing here really like you

01:18:08.800 definitely don't want to listen to like Brett Weinstein's dark horse podcast because that's

01:18:12.480 you know that's so edgy right or whatever uh or you know dave what's his name um oh gosh he was

01:18:18.360 with the team ruben dave ruben yeah exactly dave ruben or like this trigonometry constantine kissing

01:18:24.180 oh yeah god sad right which came out like he's just an open like mossad agent i'm not sure if

01:18:30.120 you saw that video was so funny i couldn't believe it i was like what like okay all right this makes

01:18:36.020 you always joke and be like oh i'm a mossad agent right comes i was like no actually i am i was

01:18:40.960 actually approached exactly it's like okay now i know why this fart was astroturfed in the way

01:18:45.620 that it was like it makes sense right but it was so they spent a lot of the time as you said yes

01:18:51.640 promoting like classic liberal ideas but at the same time you kind of had a setup of the whole 0.92

01:18:56.460 woke shit right like where the bar is now so low in terms of your level of critique against 0.94

01:19:04.360 something that is genuinely a problem and being shoved down our throats right like yes let's uh 1.00

01:19:09.500 you know, put your kids on hormone blockers 1.00

01:19:12.300 and cut their genitals. 0.99

01:19:13.160 Like, yeah, obviously this is a huge problem 1.00

01:19:14.820 and it did happen.

01:19:15.660 It was not like just a figment of our imagination,

01:19:18.420 but I almost saw it as an invention

01:19:21.020 to keep, you take, you know,

01:19:26.180 a hundred steps forward

01:19:27.560 and then they go, you know, three steps back

01:19:30.320 and then they see it as a kind of

01:19:31.560 an ideological victory, right?

01:19:33.480 Like, what's...

01:19:35.220 You're saying that they have to give

01:19:37.240 that that um alleviation of pressure even if it's slight is that what you're saying i'm saying

01:19:42.840 they off they they pushed something these woke liberal ideas so hard and and so obnoxious and

01:19:49.860 so many obnoxious one of them as well that that ended up taking the majority of the energy or

01:19:55.100 the focus yeah so that the critique didn't now become about for example it became less about

01:20:01.460 demographics do you see i'm saying like and it became more about just like kicking out like you

01:20:05.000 know uh drag queen story our time from you know libraries or whatever which which i obviously

01:20:09.240 agree with but i'm saying yeah yeah but when that was scaled back then it's like oh phew glad that's

01:20:14.960 over everyone okay well but we won out you know we're back and he hasn't gone away by the way

01:20:18.900 that's it that's a whole nother thing but uh your dei right that's what because that was the big

01:20:23.780 attack from the trump administration partially right doge uh we're gonna root out all these 0.92

01:20:29.100 usaid gay programs they're running like some tranny theater in albania or so you know like 0.99

01:20:33.900 shit like this like crazy stuff that shouldn't obviously be happening right but you have all 0.99

01:20:37.900 these just a just a setup right a uh a red herring if you will they just said you know let yeah to 0.99

01:20:44.220 distract your decoy of sorts set all these things up and let the focus be on those things and then

01:20:49.060 the underlying factor of in a way how we ended even up there has not fundamentally been addressed

01:20:55.000 or changed right well how many years was the predominant political discussion literally over

01:21:01.760 trans bathrooms exactly right i mean the way i see that is that's if if you're succumbing to that

01:21:07.940 frame perpetually and never moving ground you are like your feet are in quicksand and they're just

01:21:14.900 running around you because the right previously um the mainstream right certainly was continually

01:21:23.040 defensive there was no even i don't even think they had a positive vision at all and so they

01:21:28.640 get caught up in these these debates over things that are actually inconsequential to the general

01:21:34.900 trajectory of society obviously it's important but it almost seems like like a red herring in

01:21:41.680 itself that the right just doesn't know it's a red herring and they get caught up in it because

01:21:45.120 it's so absurd like we can definitely win this because it's so absurd and then they spend three

01:21:49.900 years on it not knowing that the person you know in front of them has just a ideological devotion

01:21:55.100 to never give in and pretend to misunderstand everything

01:21:59.120 for however long it takes.

01:22:00.900 That seems like what it is.

01:22:03.540 Exactly. No, it definitely does.

01:22:06.260 They can keep kind of cutting down some of the leaves,

01:22:12.720 trim the leaves from the branches,

01:22:14.820 but never really strike the root

01:22:16.360 and go after what the main issue is,

01:22:18.380 like what enabled the woke to begin with,

01:22:20.840 or how was that even possible, right?

01:22:22.260 so instead they have this you know kind of faux um attitude towards uh you know addressing issues

01:22:29.560 without fundamentally going to the root of it and as soon as you do then it's of course

01:22:32.900 lots of kvetching and oh we can't go there you know kind of thing um so i think it's yeah i i

01:22:39.040 think it's pretty clear of how the setup has been which takes me back to the point of and again this

01:22:45.280 doesn't mean like oh it's all control i'm giving up obviously but it's a continuous exposure it's

01:22:51.160 a continuous effort struggle of sorts to just keep things on point

01:22:56.040 and keep things relevant because there is a sense of urgency

01:23:00.680 to go back to some of the things you talked about earlier.

01:23:02.800 They have a window, but we have a window too, obviously,

01:23:05.360 in terms of demographics.

01:23:06.960 What's going to happen?

01:23:07.700 How is this going to play out?

01:23:09.920 Our kids are growing up minorities now in many of our countries

01:23:14.060 all throughout the West.

01:23:15.020 This is a huge and major issue.

01:23:17.380 And as much as I hate training bathrooms, that's just a, it's just one little symptom of the problem out on the periphery, really, you know what I mean, without fundamentally addressing the underlying factors.

01:23:29.960 so all right so anyway come back to some of the issues here they talk about the book right

01:23:36.320 how you see gen z being part of altering this changing this um what's the trajectory do you

01:23:44.840 see um if if the window is closing um i'm not sure if we talked enough about that but like you

01:23:50.620 say is the energy and organizational capability there obviously this is not something and it's

01:23:55.860 never been something that one generation fixes on their own it's always been across i think even

01:24:00.320 the division of generations of sort is actually kind of part of the psyop right this didn't used

01:24:05.200 to be the case you know i mean you look back enough in history um i think that started really

01:24:11.260 post-world war ii where they started like kind of weaponizing one generation against another in 0.54

01:24:16.480 order to essentially i think separate us from a generational knowledge and wisdom essentially

01:24:21.200 like oh don't listen to them they're older type of thing right you see what i'm saying

01:24:25.000 no totally and you know i uh there are a lot of people that tacitly assume that

01:24:33.100 because it's about gen z that it only applies to gen z it doesn't at all it applies to everyone

01:24:39.940 the distinction is that we were in our formative years when all this happened right you know i was

01:24:45.100 i was 18 when trump got elected for the first time and i'm 27 now but uh the i i i pegged the

01:24:54.060 real start of all this trayvon martin followed by michael brown that incited this this hyper

01:25:01.320 fixation on race what year was on 2014 2012 was trayvon brown okay uh martin and then uh michael

01:25:08.380 brown was 2015 um but i think everything that's laid out in the narrative of the book everybody

01:25:18.900 that lives in the west will be perfectly comfortable and understand how these events

01:25:25.080 impacted their psyche too um it's not like my niche memoir of like what happened to me like

01:25:30.600 there's a few authorial commentaries but they're very brief and it's only to apply knowledge like

01:25:35.500 when I worked at Tesla and saw the H1V stuff happening as Elon was lying about it. But for

01:25:41.580 the most part, it is very much integrative of everybody. Everybody that's basically red-pilled 0.98

01:25:48.980 at the time probably drew the same conclusion at each of these milestones. And so I think the

01:25:57.280 The visceral rage underlying Gen Z is more powerful than the preceding generations, 1.00

01:26:05.100 or I guess preceding generations, because we were so close, or at least it appeared

01:26:11.880 that we were so close to all of the general promises actually coming true, right?

01:26:17.320 Like go to college, get a job, work hard, find a wife, buy a house, have kids.

01:26:23.920 like 10 years ahead of us most people did make that work and so there was a lot of reason for

01:26:31.100 us to believe that that would be our trajectory and when it when it wasn't that incited this like

01:26:36.900 revolutionary spirit i think that's that's lying beneath the surface um on the right um

01:26:43.620 and so i think it's there in that regard i think our allies in the older generations

01:26:48.660 certainly everybody that's been paying attention i i'm at the point now where i don't think that

01:26:53.220 we should waste any time on conversions if you're where you are politically at this point i don't

01:26:58.600 see any reason for discourse it's a waste of time um and and even if you did persuade someone they

01:27:04.380 wouldn't be any type of player in this anyway because if it's you know 2026 and you haven't

01:27:08.820 figured out what's going on um when you do you're just going to be useless because you couldn't

01:27:14.560 figure it out when it was so obvious um so uniquely i think it will have to be led primarily

01:27:21.060 by the younger cohort or whatever occurs, right?

01:27:26.420 Because that's where the guttural rage exists at.

01:27:30.840 And I think you need that to be your engine.

01:27:34.300 But I do think that there's allies to be had.

01:27:38.940 One thing that makes people very uncomfortable to think about

01:27:44.060 is you reach a point once you've crossed a threshold

01:27:48.620 to where if you rethought all of your presumptions and they ended up being wrong

01:27:56.640 then you kind of invalidate your entire life like if you're 60 years old right now and you worked

01:28:02.940 you know 12 hours a day whatever to earn all this money and you you buy a house all this stuff

01:28:10.880 and then you learn that like the financial system is just a total smoke and mirrors game

01:28:16.020 that your money is digits on the screen, you know, and it's probably all facilitating

01:28:21.600 terrible things, whether through tax dollars or whatever. It's like that's a load bearing belief

01:28:28.740 and that if you remove that, your world kind of comes tumbling down. This is the same thing you

01:28:33.920 see with young women who have had abortions or parents who have trans their children.

01:28:39.060 They will never relent on that and they will be the most fiercest warrior defending that

01:28:45.580 opinion, that action, because if they changed their mind, then they become the monster or they

01:28:53.480 become the person that wasted their life on something that was meaningless. And so we're

01:28:57.500 going to really have to find a way to deal with that as people do start waking up to the depth

01:29:03.820 of fraudulence that is wrought in everything. And I think Gen Z is insulated from that a little bit

01:29:11.300 in the sense that we didn't actually devote ourselves to enough to where we're anchored in

01:29:18.880 and that we're dealing with that kind of like i have no problem relinquishing the um the conclusion

01:29:25.620 that like the old world is gone because i know because i'm not i'm not so invested to where that

01:29:31.140 would you know break my identity or make me regret all the times i missed out hanging out with my

01:29:36.200 kids or whatever like that and we're going to see this too as time progresses um as like these

01:29:41.440 millennial women a totally age out of childbearing years and can't find a husband like they're going 1.00

01:29:47.780 to have to get even more fierce in their promotion of feminism because if they don't well then they're 1.00

01:29:55.760 admitting that they totally ruined their lives that's what i'm most scared about in terms of

01:30:01.400 the volatility of of emotions across the board yeah and what happens with them those women too 1.00

01:30:06.340 is they're being they're weaponized right instead of then spending all their time on kids or later

01:30:11.420 on grandkids or something their entire existence now is to attack white men essentially you know

01:30:17.480 like you're the reason for that spite you know the spiteful mutants are you know coming out and 0.96

01:30:23.240 and they'll be weaponized and they'll be people that have means in some cases to resource right

01:30:29.140 They have, because of their DEI positions, whatever the hell they have, they have good paying jobs, they have means and resources, it's awful.

01:30:36.400 But again, going back to the point, right, I mean, demographics is the number one issue for us, what we talk about right now.

01:30:44.040 Because with that, if we lose that, it's, if we don't have our people, what do we have?

01:30:48.660 What's the reason, right?

01:30:50.020 And so you have so many headlines like this, and, you know, not that I need to reiterate it to you, but we continuously remind people of this.

01:30:56.420 like keep your eye on the ball what's happening we can talk about all these peripheral issues and

01:31:00.920 problems right now granted of course a lot of other uh demographic people demographics racist

01:31:07.320 ethnicities as well also have you know decline in their population number seems to go hand in hand

01:31:12.700 with modernity or something like that right uh but the point is in our own countries what's that

01:31:18.640 and average iq i would say oh sure absolutely um if we lose our own countries we we have nothing

01:31:26.180 Now we're relegated to a small little segment or a portion of it or something like that.

01:31:31.060 And at the same time, it's something we have to kind of, you know, prepare for.

01:31:36.400 We have to fight tooth and nail against it, but at the same time, prepare for a possibility that at least for a period of time, we will be in a minority status in some of our own countries.

01:31:47.780 I mean, America has already, I think you have a couple of the headlines here, obviously, and we know about the replacement migration agenda pushed by the UN,

01:31:54.320 all these international organizations all these charities all these churches all these jewish

01:31:59.040 orgs there's muslim they're all pushing it they're making money on it they're taking 1.00

01:32:04.240 taxpayer money and basically uh making millions in resettling these migrants in in our countries 0.99

01:32:10.480 right um but in terms of what do you think this plays into it in gen z as well right because like

01:32:17.040 okay it might be more conservative right wing among do you know if that's primarily among white

01:32:22.080 white gen z men younger men or is it non-whites how does race and demographic changes play into

01:32:28.520 gen z in terms of the general right wing trends within the generations yeah i have not looked at

01:32:35.540 the numbers but i think whites generally have nearly all i mean you gotta discount like the 0.99

01:32:44.240 total soy boy like pussies but anybody that's like self-respecting white guy is become has 0.99

01:32:50.620 become very comfortable with white nationalism, white identitarianism as a default. And what's 0.99

01:32:56.760 interesting is that was so, I don't know if there was a word growing up that we were more allergic

01:33:03.940 to than the idea of a white supremacist, of a white nationalist, anything that pedestalized

01:33:11.160 whiteness in any regard. But we broke through it pretty dang quickly, like to the point where now

01:33:18.300 I don't think it's much of a concern for anyone to outwardly say that.

01:33:25.540 I would say that to anybody, that that's what I am.

01:33:28.220 And I would have said that when I was anonymous too, because what we found very rapidly is

01:33:34.300 that demographics are everything.

01:33:36.620 We think about cultures, societies, even the art that these enclaves of people produce.

01:33:46.740 that's all an extension of the underlying mechanic mechanics of that people's brain

01:33:55.300 right like you look at you look at salvador dolly you look at anthony gaudy is it a surprise that

01:34:02.280 they're both spaniards and they produce art in different mediums in different periods of time

01:34:07.240 but they actually display an underlying thread that makes sense michelangelo da vinci rafael

01:34:14.580 same thing is it is anyone surprised that they're all italians and so when when it's become clear

01:34:21.240 that the blank slate's garbage and it can't obfuscate things anymore i think people understand

01:34:27.300 that it's not an option to be pro your people um anymore you have to be if if you value your 0.69

01:34:38.840 existence as something good which some people really don't i think a lot of white liberal

01:34:44.840 women i basically don't talk about women at all except give a critique of feminism in chapter 10

01:34:49.340 but um but as we're becoming more comfortable with ourselves existing as a specific thing

01:34:57.740 and allocating you know goodness to that inherently um i think it's it's becoming

01:35:03.580 very common and i think you know from the other race guys that i've talked to as well i think that

01:35:10.380 most of them are actually okay with it too and you know i mean not all of them obviously but i

01:35:18.920 think a lot of people are getting comfortable with the idea that yeah everyone should be for their

01:35:24.860 people not as it is right now where we're against our people and for another people we're actively

01:35:32.020 against our people for, you know, broadly speaking. Um, so that, you know, but all of

01:35:38.700 these contradictions in fundamental misunderstanding of our liberal theology is playing out in a way

01:35:48.620 that is bringing these questions to the forefront. Like the time for these ideas has come. That's

01:35:55.720 what it sounds like to me yeah um good point um i hope that's true right i hope that's true

01:36:04.340 i hope we're in a situation where we i know this can go really quickly too that's that's one thing

01:36:12.300 right it's not the same it's not information flows faster than ever you even see let's take

01:36:20.760 britain as an example in that and again this is not some to doing some political like it's all

01:36:25.960 through politics however you must at some point you must assert political power right you you

01:36:33.500 must you must take back uh your country's ability to organize in some level you have to have

01:36:38.820 power right that that's kind of just how it is and look at the uk for example then we're with the

01:36:44.840 uh first uh reform and then just right after restore i kind of think younger generations i

01:36:52.260 think is much less of this like well we voted labor you know like the democrat all our life

01:36:58.800 with the workers party that was it you know kind of thing in this kind of schizoid for better or

01:37:03.700 for worse tiktok brain world now uh oh here's a new thing let's just go all in on that oh here's

01:37:09.140 another new thing let's you do something it's like in a weird way that it's anti-traditional

01:37:13.580 in one sense, but at the same time, because of the nature of how everything has evolved,

01:37:19.840 that weakness can, I guess, be utilized as a strength if the right moment shows up,

01:37:24.640 if the right people shows up, if the right organizational skill and capacity shows up,

01:37:29.660 if the right leadership shows up in a sense where they manage to rally people behind them,

01:37:34.920 that support can stream in behind them as long as they get the focus and attention, I guess,

01:37:38.840 uh very very quickly potentially so i'm not i'm not i don't stare myself too blind as you kind

01:37:44.340 of said i think you talked about this earlier right of like statistics or trajectories of like

01:37:49.760 well here you know this is uh the projected outcome of something that can change so dramatically

01:37:56.700 quickly and there's so many moving parts and so many variables and if one thing breaks or click

01:38:01.260 you know the whole house of cards comes crashing down and stuff so i'm encouraged it's just it's

01:38:06.340 just about the timing of the thing it feels like a lot of people are just kind of waiting to see

01:38:11.220 like okay when do we you know storm the gates type of thing right it sounds like you know everybody

01:38:17.160 knows that we need to do something but nobody knows what what to do or how to do it or even

01:38:25.900 when to do it yeah that's the question i mean whoever whoever can figure that out uh

01:38:33.180 and communicate it without getting put in solitary confinement then you know that's going to be

01:38:42.240 that's going to be the profit because it sounds like literally nobody knows what to do but what

01:38:48.580 does that all what does that all speak to the fact that we don't even understand how the levers of

01:38:53.160 power work in this country we don't know what to attack we don't know what to you know infiltrate

01:38:58.220 and apply our, you know, based mind to, you know, but that's why, you know, what I think is most

01:39:06.760 important in any regard, but particularly politically, is developing a model that actually

01:39:15.140 works and that actually has predictive power so that you know that you understand what is going

01:39:21.520 on and um and i think james burnham in the machiavellians does a great job of explaining

01:39:29.600 this type of thinking i think schmidt in the concept of the political does as well i think

01:39:34.160 machiavelli does it the best in the prince but rather than trying to get extremely educated on

01:39:42.240 what happened in the french revolution what while i think that stuff is important what i think is

01:39:46.320 better is put together a model that you can apply to any data set that comes in front of you and if

01:39:54.880 it if it is founded in the proper structural understanding of things you should be able to

01:40:01.760 get an answer for what is going to happen down the line and then once you do that you can understand

01:40:06.320 okay well you can reverse engineer it from there how did you know it's like take trump it's very

01:40:12.080 obvious where the levers of control over Trump reigned from. But if you're a liberal that

01:40:20.180 has never even heard any argument about Zog in general, you're so confused, have no idea what's

01:40:28.120 going on. He looks like a bumbling, even more of a bumbling idiot. But so just getting to the heart 1.00

01:40:33.900 of what are the fundamentals? What are the mechanical fundamentals? Because, and this is

01:40:39.180 the, the, um, analogy I use in the, in the first chapter, if a doctor cannot get an accurate

01:40:47.260 diagnosis on whatever your problem is, the chance that he can solve it is pretty much zero. And the

01:40:54.080 chance that he can solve it accurately is definitely zero. So the most important thing,

01:41:00.220 I would rather go to a doctor that tells me exactly what's wrong with me and says,

01:41:04.640 but i can't help you then go to a doctor that says okay well maybe we'll try this maybe we'll

01:41:09.480 try that maybe we'll try that you see what i'm saying you want a model that can diagnose

01:41:13.360 so that you can actually adjust and differentiate whatever's in front of you to fix the problem

01:41:19.880 but until we understand the problem we're kind of shit out of luck yeah um even the

01:41:28.020 speed at which the 0.82

01:41:30.880 layer of the new

01:41:32.420 problems come at us to create those layers

01:41:35.040 I guess is that's altering and being changed

01:41:37.080 too on top of it to make things

01:41:38.660 more confusing

01:41:39.780 artificial intelligence

01:41:43.140 it's why some of these leaders

01:41:44.880 they talk about it quite openly

01:41:46.700 as a super weapon

01:41:49.000 I think even Netanyahu talked about that

01:41:50.400 Israel is going to be a super nation 0.98

01:41:52.540 it was one of the latest clips I saw

01:41:54.280 we now have access

01:41:56.940 to a was this super weapon he used what was the term there was something there was something to

01:42:00.860 that effect i'm paraphrasing but it's something that like we now have you know the thing right

01:42:05.900 um and with that can change the dynamic extremely uh quickly as well obviously as we know just the

01:42:13.820 sheer uh ai slop and and distractions that might be out there of just endlessly being lost in some

01:42:20.700 you know vr headset world where you can just you know you don't like the real world have no control

01:42:26.060 no problem you know just put a headset on just like well there's gonna be a lot of people that

01:42:30.940 want that 100 oh yeah absolutely which which breaks it down again um into that with all of

01:42:40.120 these things there is a process of refinement happening um a eugenic progress process is 0.90

01:42:46.520 it's dysgenics obviously that's how it started but it's ultimately at the end of that therefore

01:42:51.040 than eugenic um there's a weeding out right of just like being lost in trappings and stuff and

01:42:56.480 it kind of goes back to the issue we talked about like maybe what we should focus on is uh quality

01:43:02.800 not quantity right we always feel it's good like we got to compete with a billion indians and a

01:43:06.720 billion chinese or something just have more kids and obviously it's not a discouragement have as

01:43:11.280 many as you can obviously right uh but at the same time it's never been about um just a mass

01:43:18.800 less meat wall, I think, for us as well. I think we can go a lot further with quality

01:43:23.900 as opposed to just, you know, quality. I totally agree. I'm pretty opposed to that argument

01:43:30.200 of just like, oh, just get married, have kids. First of all, anyone that's saying that has

01:43:34.520 not had much experience with the modern woman, at least to the degree that they would have 1.00

01:43:38.720 to, to know that that advice is nonsense. But yeah, practicality and tacticality as

01:43:46.580 well um is going to be very important here because we're not going to get that many

01:43:51.240 opportunities to really strike so we need to know where the weak points are um how to

01:43:59.480 apply maximal strength and damage um and yeah so i i think to your point of quality over quantity

01:44:09.680 like we don't want just like uh a meat army you know of people that totally untrained no idea it's

01:44:17.800 like it's gonna be a lot more complex we can have how about both how about that yeah yes but what

01:44:24.240 i'm saying is like look obviously have have as many kids as you can everybody get a get a woman

01:44:29.080 have a family that's the best thing the the part of the reason why we're in this is because of a lot

01:44:33.800 of selfish you know trappings and endless entertainment and okay like things that have

01:44:40.220 just disassociated us from just a normal life obviously you know i mean like so yeah that that's

01:44:44.680 that's that is number one but i think out of that what i'm what i'm saying what i'm getting to i

01:44:48.740 guess is that out of our ability to continue to exist by having children we we will still have

01:44:54.480 uh we have a lot of quality uh people you know i mean yeah and maybe maybe you misunderstood what

01:44:59.740 i what i meant by that i wasn't saying don't do it what i was saying is that alone would not solve

01:45:06.320 correct yes exactly yeah it will like like i think not a little bit what would say that like

01:45:13.320 that's literally all you have to do and then well then we'll raise our kids conservative and then in

01:45:18.080 80 years it'll be a conservative country it's like okay all right well it was for a while wasn't it

01:45:23.160 and that didn't prevent us from getting through the point we're getting that is the fallacy of

01:45:27.920 sorts of tradition and of course obviously i'm a obviously i'm a traditionalist myself but i'm

01:45:32.320 saying of of all the systems we did have none of them prevented us from ending up where we are now

01:45:39.280 well that's the best argument against something like the constitution and i i've read the

01:45:44.160 constitution i know many people that like just allowed it like you'd never believe haven't but

01:45:51.600 it's fairly banal i think conceptually it's it's uh it's obviously like ahead of its time but

01:45:58.660 regardless it's undeniable that it either allowed us to get here technically or wasn't strong enough

01:46:07.940 to stop us from getting where we are so either way it's invalidated and and that's that's that

01:46:12.580 like 90s liberal type uh concept too when people say i'm a constitutionalist i want to get back

01:46:18.360 the constitution it's like well okay let's just say we did that then go 200 years from there

01:46:23.240 do we get right back here you know it's like the real constitution has never been tried

01:46:27.980 like are we really doing that argument yeah well we're always excuse me we're always looking for

01:46:33.220 something that will be you know it's just an item or a thing or a button you can press that just

01:46:38.700 yeah oh yeah you know yeah and and and that's and that is the reason why we've failed failed

01:46:46.380 you know i mean like or ended up or rounding up because we're not willing to do the hard work i

01:46:51.040 think it ultimately comes down to we've been too comfortable and that's why i'm like i'm looking

01:46:55.060 around in the world and just like look i got i got younger kids and i'm like look obviously i don't

01:47:00.120 i'm very worried about the future i'm very worried about they're like these people toying with

01:47:04.200 energy and now food supplies and fertilizer like there's a lot of problems here right you know but

01:47:09.240 at the same time i also recognize that like if the comfort of this system just kind of

01:47:14.180 We just print 40 more trillion in debt and just keep it, you know, let's keep it going, you know, kind of thing.

01:47:19.780 That will also be our undoing.

01:47:21.500 That will also, you know, lead us to our extinction, essentially.

01:47:24.460 So, like, rip off the Band-Aid and preferably, in a sense, the earlier the better.

01:47:29.800 I agree.

01:47:30.400 I totally agree.

01:47:32.040 Yeah.

01:47:34.000 So, yeah, it's a challenge.

01:47:37.180 And ultimately, we're not in charge, you know.

01:47:39.860 I mean, you and me are not in charge.

01:47:41.180 We can't tell everyone else what to do, whatever.

01:47:43.820 We can influence people.

01:47:44.940 I think we can talk sense to people.

01:47:46.420 We can reach people.

01:47:48.140 And at the end of the day, it's about what we do and how we affect the things we can't affect.

01:47:54.000 But I think back to the point I said, we still have the reason why we're in the situation we're in is because we collectively, our people, our race, didn't take our responsibility.

01:48:02.320 We allowed ourselves to be bamboozled by cheap calories and endless entertainment, essentially, right?

01:48:08.800 We didn't pass on our stories.

01:48:10.540 We didn't continue our myths.

01:48:11.740 we didn't uh pick up the tradition in that sense and and keep it alive right well i think what was

01:48:18.780 particularly sinister about that and i don't know um maybe you were not exposed to this in

01:48:25.260 the same way that i think my generation was but they taught us that all those vices were actually

01:48:32.700 good for you like that that was your symbol of freedom and that it was healthy and that

01:48:40.620 you should live life that way and i grew up believing that to a degree at least i mean i

01:48:46.940 was juxtaposed with like understanding you know hard work through sports and things like that but

01:48:52.860 more generally it's one thing to say you know it's bad to drink bad premarital sex whatever all that

01:48:59.900 stuff and just not address it right like that's how i imagine it was kind of in the earlier days

01:49:07.500 um, probably post sixties, but still earlier days, but they were telling from a systematic

01:49:12.460 level from public school, like they were pushing you toward those behaviors. And, um, to do that

01:49:19.100 to children is a remarkable level of, of either willful ignorance or let's be honest, evil. Um,

01:49:28.660 and, and I actually do pride a lot of my generation. I don't know about the women, 0.98

01:49:33.220 but the men in breaking that mold because you know our parent my parents they're uh gen x and

01:49:39.780 most of my friends parents are gen x and they have no tradition no tradition nothing even the

01:49:45.380 religious ones hardly have any tradition so we grew up in a traditionless world we didn't we're 1.00

01:49:50.180 basically deracinated from our true countries of origin um sometimes even the the state of origin

01:49:57.700 that you know previous generations had grown up in there was nothing tying us together to our

01:50:05.380 ancestors in any regard um and you know that there's not to invoke like a song lyric but it

01:50:15.060 it just explains it well um noel gallagher in one of his songs in oasis he's like um

01:50:20.820 um we drink steal and we lie nobody tells us wrong so we don't know why or whatever like

01:50:27.840 you just do it because nobody says it's wrong well it's even worse than that it's like we are told

01:50:32.200 to do it and you you couple that with a lack of foundation a lack of tradition and that is just

01:50:38.760 the perfect disaster and the the perfect storm to just create a complete crisis spiritually

01:50:45.680 authentically meaning vision all the above yeah no exactly uh no and i can speak to that too it was

01:50:52.540 it's a it's a generation of like nihilism nothing means anything endless like irony innuendos and

01:51:01.800 it just you know hollowed out entirely and again just the way the establishment prefer it prefer

01:51:07.120 it as i said because every every every elite you know preceding us have weaponized the younger

01:51:13.120 generations in some kind of capacity or use them to to destroy them while thinking the actions that

01:51:18.240 they're taking are somehow rebellious right they're being led by the pied piper straight

01:51:22.480 into the trap essentially and they think like hey i'm i'm rebelling i'm you know i'm figuring

01:51:26.920 shit out you know and then you realize hindsight uh no you're being led along well you know i think

01:51:32.520 the best distillation of all that i'm sure you've heard of this friends giving right that is yeah 0.88

01:51:40.980 I think that that is like the best example of all of those like rotten ideologies coming together of people being able to say like I can reject my familial obligations.

01:51:54.920 I can reject my culture, people, and bring this conglomeration of probably very short and definitely not deep relationships altogether to simulate what I should have been doing as a longstanding tradition with people who really belonged to my tradition.

01:52:18.160 It's like obfuscating it enough to check the box on it, but excavate all the meaning out of it.

01:52:24.920 yeah it was it was never a show running called a modern family i'm looking for the articles i've

01:52:31.060 seen a few of them but it's like family now means everything you know and and the and the interest

01:52:37.640 that you rally around is some niche thing that you were part of some weird subculture online

01:52:43.000 like furries or something and it's ironic yeah it's always ironic of course yeah nothing means

01:52:47.500 anything or whatever and it's like a desperate attempt at like yes it's all simulacrums it's all

01:52:53.120 fake um ideological association or thinking that you're into this one thing and that's now your

01:52:59.380 identity and stuff like that right and for the most part let's be honest i mean of course there's

01:53:03.760 other races that do that too but it's a very white thing you know i mean instead of then having your

01:53:08.300 culture tradition heritage race folk as a central underpinning of it it's like the this band that we

01:53:15.860 all listened to or something i mean and that's like part of your identity at all yeah it is um

01:53:22.180 and it was some yeah i think it was actually pretty it was a good documentary um and he was

01:53:27.520 a jewish guy douglas rush cough and so he'd inside of that there were subversive things but he still

01:53:34.440 pointed out he might even have critiqued it for the wrong reasons in some cases but that doesn't

01:53:39.340 mean what he did critique wasn't you know wasn't wrong right it was right uh but it was called

01:53:43.820 Merchants of Cool. It was a PBS documentary back in the day, and he had

01:53:47.680 one more. It was either follow-up or the one preceding Merchants of Cool.

01:53:51.720 But he did put his finger on that. Again, in his view

01:53:55.780 this was just some like, veiled, he didn't say it in these terms, but it was 0.97

01:53:59.740 like, here's the evil kind of capitalist, you know, white 0.92

01:54:03.720 people, I guess, or something, you know, kind of doing this. But he pinpointed 0.97

01:54:08.020 the idea of how you market

01:54:10.440 cool, how this became a Madison Avenue, even Wall Street, then to a certain extent,

01:54:16.320 industry, right? Of like appealing to kids and teenagers and youth or whatever. And it's not

01:54:21.660 just, again, what he, I think, gets wrong there too, is this, they see it as, well, that's about

01:54:26.560 profits or short-term gains by, you know, Black Rocks and holding companies or something. And it's

01:54:32.440 like, actually, it's not. It's ultimately, it's about control. I even think the money in and of

01:54:36.460 itself it's just a that's a means to an end ultimately i've always seen it as as control

01:54:41.640 and and and the way you control people is to de-racinate them right make them into a as part

01:54:48.800 of the you mentioned before at the gamification of life or like how uh predictability models or

01:54:54.020 even ai or a supercomputer running like and they have these now like they've they've done this for

01:54:58.940 decades i forget which branch of the military was a sandoz labor i was one of them the access to

01:55:06.060 these supercomputers and there's like a little version of you and me in these supercomputers now

01:55:10.940 it's way more advanced than that this is like a few decades ago but everyone's in there every

01:55:14.460 statistical knowledge and info that they have on everyone is in there so that they can run

01:55:19.020 predictability models like if we do this what happens what's the outcome right but the point

01:55:23.720 is what i'm getting to is that it's a very complex picture especially the more differences you have

01:55:31.080 But that's part of the process of homogenization itself.

01:55:34.120 If you can distill down most humans into a few variables of very easily manipulatable inputs or whatever, it's much easier to control everybody.

01:55:43.820 And it's much easier to predict everyone's behavior as well.

01:55:47.920 Absolutely.

01:55:48.900 Yeah, they want as little broad complexity as possible, I think.

01:55:54.160 Yeah, exactly.

01:55:55.100 Much easier to control, much easier to push the buttons and all that kind of stuff.

01:55:58.520 right um so yeah anyway we're learning this we're learning it the hard way but i think out of this

01:56:04.660 will come a much stronger um man a much more sharpened man and you know like it or not we

01:56:13.140 didn't make up the rules nature still rules even within the weird artificial systems that we now

01:56:17.340 have nature is in charge i think and um for those who don't make it well you know that's that's what

01:56:23.580 it is i mean since refrigeration and antibiotics everyone survived all including all the spiteful

01:56:28.020 mutants whenever genetic deformities that in the past wouldn't have fit into a tribal society that

01:56:32.740 was highly dependent on the function of everyone in it right but now everyone survives all the

01:56:38.160 mutations right we're billions and billions of people now and this is the anomaly that's my

01:56:44.560 point here too right the period that we're in now and as absurd that is that's not the norm

01:56:50.100 historically that it's never been like this in any kind of capacity and i think there will be

01:56:55.520 you know either by our own you know undoing or maybe outside natural phenomena who knows it could

01:57:01.360 be a powerful enough solar flare tomorrow and it will just take out all the electronics and boom

01:57:07.480 and we'll reset back to to square one we're back to the stone age essentially right yeah uh but

01:57:12.480 however and i'm not saying that's your uh idea here either but we can't sit unfortunately we

01:57:16.600 can't sit around and wait for that day to come we gotta take action it'd be nice yeah it'd be nice

01:57:22.820 it would be like a shortcut it would be like yeah being cheated out of it i've always felt right no

01:57:28.340 for us to grow and to learn from it is we have to do it we have to overthrow this system or you know

01:57:34.420 throw the shackles off of the people that are restricting us kind of thing right

01:57:38.100 um anyway this has been a great discussion really enjoyed it a lot of good uh thoughts and ideas

01:57:42.660 discussed here uh what let us know if there's something else you know obviously there's a lot

01:57:47.940 of other things in the book that we didn't talk about but there's something specific so you feel

01:57:51.140 is both maybe pertinent to the discussion here

01:57:53.660 or something else from the book

01:57:55.300 you'd like to kind of bring out or reiterate

01:57:57.180 or something that we didn't go into yet?

01:58:01.320 I would say that most people watching here

01:58:07.080 probably don't know who I am,

01:58:08.740 but I've had to censor myself quite a bit on YouTube, obviously,

01:58:13.160 and people have made comments about that in particular

01:58:17.880 as if I was choosing not to say it for any reason.

01:58:20.180 the book is 100 uncensored it gets into the jewish question deeply and explains the mechanics of it

01:58:26.740 the underlying logic of how it can be applied how it is applied the effects of it examples of that

01:58:32.160 being in place um it shows anybody that is watching this probably would disagree with

01:58:40.220 nothing in the book maybe a few minor quibbles on the importance of some specific characters

01:58:45.860 but regardless the book has all of the receipts of all this stuff it has all the quotes all the

01:58:52.240 articles everything so and it's narrativized too like i said it's it's through the hero's journey

01:58:57.040 so you're not reading it like a collection of essays if you really want to understand

01:59:01.780 art have somebody articulate what the last decade did for you whether you know it or not just

01:59:08.560 subconsciously i really think you will get a lot out of reading it and if you don't want to just

01:59:13.300 get the book try listening to my video gen z from liberal to far right because that's the same

01:59:18.880 narrative arc i use that as the structure of the book and um and anyway so it's it's the

01:59:25.700 continuation of that proving you know my my assertions with with actual evidence but it

01:59:32.080 but it reads like a novel it's a non-fiction novel basically um so it should be a good read

01:59:37.120 regardless um and it's not too long it's like 230 pages i think and jared taylor wrote the

01:59:44.660 forward yeah i was gonna say exactly honor yeah oh yeah no good old jared man we love jared uh

01:59:50.260 and there's the uh audio or video of it too is that his or you're narrating i read there you go

01:59:57.040 exactly yeah okay good awesome um all right cool yeah so definitely uh arctos is one of the places

02:00:02.320 People can pick up a copy, American History Z,

02:00:04.780 or you can do it, of course, on Amazon if you prefer that method.

02:00:08.460 Either works, I guess, for you.

02:00:09.940 It doesn't matter, really, what option people take.

02:00:12.120 Yep.

02:00:12.700 Maybe Amazon.

02:00:13.520 I don't know.

02:00:14.180 But anyway, yeah, great stuff, man.

02:00:16.640 Keep up the good work.

02:00:17.640 Right Wing Coalition on YouTube.

02:00:20.040 That's at The RW Coalition.

02:00:23.080 But you can, I think, if you search for it, it should pop up.

02:00:26.240 And, of course, they can follow you on X or Twitter as well

02:00:28.260 under The RW Coalition as well.

02:00:30.540 uh so what do you got uh are you working on something new videos right now what's uh what's

02:00:35.880 coming up well i am groveling through the audiobook i thought i would get it done a lot faster it's

02:00:41.780 really a grind um so that's that's really my main um my main deliverable but i'm as of right now

02:00:48.280 just trying to do things like this trying to get some more exposure um in the space uh because

02:00:54.600 really like i haven't been around long enough to form too many um distinct alliances i guess

02:01:01.640 uh but then i'm i'm writing on the side essays of of uh mix between current events some practical

02:01:09.420 philosophy practical right-wing philosophy applied to modern situation i think i'm working on

02:01:14.240 something right now of over the debate of is it really left versus right or is it really you know

02:01:21.380 americans versus zog or um i think i i'll do a good job of articulating what the reality is there

02:01:28.820 but um nothing distinct on the horizon right now just kind of doing what i'm doing and see where

02:01:36.360 it leads all right sounds good well we appreciate your work uh keep it up and uh yeah let us know

02:01:41.460 what's going on if you have new stuff coming up i'd love to have you back well i mean have you

02:01:44.740 back for discussion anyway i really enjoyed it so thank you uh joe i appreciate your uh your time

02:01:48.560 today great having you here likewise thank you all right awesome all right ladies and gentlemen

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02:02:09.880 w he says yay idaho we visited recently and my kids already went uh went um want to go back this

02:02:15.600 in regards to what I was talking to you with Matt Bracken,

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Red Ice TV - April 01, 2026

Gen Z：＂Extreme＂ Is The New Normal with Joey Oliver

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Red Ice TV - April 01, 2026

Gen Z： ＂Extreme＂ Is The New Normal with Joey Oliver

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Gen Z：＂Extreme＂ Is The New Normal with Joey Oliver