Red Ice TV - Generation Identity & Women of the Far Right with Thaïs d’Escufon

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00:00:30.000 Joining me from France is the lovely and bold Thais d'Escafant. She runs a popular YouTube channel, also a TikTok. She's on X and I think she was banned from Instagram. I'll ask her. And you may remember her as the spokesperson for Generation Identitaire. I also learned that her and I are featured in a university textbook. Yeah, we'll talk about that. Welcome, Thais. Welcome to the show.

00:00:55.480 Thank you. Thank you for having me, Lena. I'm glad to be here.

00:00:59.320 such a pleasure i remember first seeing you back in 2018 now you're still young but you were you

00:01:05.480 were young you were like 19 years old i think you became the spokesperson for generation identitaire

00:01:10.680 i thought this is cool you know we were covering it um you guys were doing you were doing media

00:01:16.240 appearances and protests with the larger group against immigration and racism anti-blanc anti-white

00:01:23.760 racism. And we were covering the migrant invasion of Europe in 2015. Man, that was a big eye opener

00:01:30.940 and saw the rise of generation identity. Also around this time, the yellow vests were doing

00:01:37.340 their thing. Was that like 2018? I think. So I know a lot has happened since then, good and bad.

00:01:44.040 But let's go back to your early days of generation identity, because that was an important time for

00:01:50.500 young european nationalists who were beginning to push back against forced european replacement

00:01:56.260 multiculturalism and anti-white propaganda so how and why did you get involved at the time

00:02:05.060 well um i started politics at the age of 18 as you said it was like in 2018 and um i uh

00:02:13.300 I was interested in activism because I was starting my studies and like I was raised in a Catholic right-wing family, actually a big family because I have eight brothers and sisters, so I pretty much had my opinions for a very long time, but my family wasn't really involved in, you know, the politics actually.

00:02:39.900 and but when I started to go to college to get my license I was really afraid like there was a

00:02:49.140 cultural shock because you know when you are raised in a traditional family you also

00:02:55.940 meet with other families like you like you know what's happening out there but you do not really

00:03:03.140 confront it i was um i had a pretty preserved childhood uh even though my parents are not that

00:03:10.100 rich but like you know there are catholic communities uh mostly whites so uh i did not

00:03:16.580 have like this shock um that happened to me when i went to university like i remember very precisely

00:03:24.180 when i took the subway to go to my classes and like i was maybe the the only french only white

00:03:30.740 girl in the subway and i was so shocked about that my university was well known for also its

00:03:39.940 very leftist far leftist views it was blocked all the time like it was really messed up and

00:03:48.980 the location was literally in a how would i say that very replaced area but like

00:03:56.660 um uh known for its uh departures for jihad like it was like this the the scenery uh a very leftist

00:04:08.100 uh university aren't they all aren't there is there any right-wing university it's especially

00:04:14.020 in france you know um there are some um like in uh la rochelle in paris but it's like two or three

00:04:22.260 and uh also there are also private schools that you can pay uh where i went to as a as a kid like

00:04:28.820 you know primary school etc but universities like yeah there are like two or three and uh

00:04:35.060 and so yeah i i went to this public university and it was awful i felt very alone and then i started

00:04:41.540 to um you know uh do my research to find other young people like thinking like me and uh that's

00:04:50.340 That's how I was introduced actually to the leader of Generation Identity in my city,

00:05:01.500 which was Toulouse, and I thought like, okay, this is the kind of group I want to be in.

00:05:08.360 I love the energy, I love like how they look, it's, you know, it's also pretty much difficult

00:05:16.180 to find young men and women who are proud, sorry,

00:05:20.500 of who they are and that it shows.

00:05:23.280 And so that's how I joined the group

00:05:29.200 and I really quickly started to be very involved.

00:05:33.420 All the action, I started to be like the responsible

00:05:39.220 for the community of the group in Toulouse.

00:05:43.100 And then I participated in many actions in Marseille, in Paris, in Toulouse, etc.

00:05:51.240 And the media started to notice me.

00:05:55.380 It was maybe like the 10th of June 2020 or something like that.

00:06:00.920 It was like Black Lives Matter, a very big thing, like, you know, of course, from the US.

00:06:06.880 But it started to come in France and we decided to have a huge banner saying, like, stop to anti-racism in front of a huge crowd of like maybe 30,000 people.

00:06:24.360 We were on the top of a roof on a very popular place.

00:06:29.640 I remember that one.

00:06:30.500 Yeah.

00:06:31.040 Yeah.

00:06:31.640 Yeah.

00:06:31.860 i also i also remember the one that really stood out to me was the time you guys organized a border

00:06:37.200 patrol in the pyrenees the the french spain border we can play a clip about this it was a defend

00:06:43.340 europe and because the government wasn't doing a damn thing to stop all these invaders right so

00:06:48.840 you know activists went out there they were showing their their presence with 30 activists

00:06:53.460 or something they deployed their banners they patrolled with the drone this was a citizen

00:06:57.640 border watch right you remember this man this was what year was this it was uh 2021 maybe just

00:07:06.000 before uh like the the movement was banned actually by the government uh and yeah it was really

00:07:12.760 something like uh it always gave me the chills to see the images yeah this one sparked major

00:07:19.020 controversy actually everything you were doing with generation identity sparked uh you know

00:07:24.380 major controversy i remember seeing lots of articles about it and the government went after

00:07:28.720 you but i just want to give a background because generation identitaire comes from the broader

00:07:34.820 identitarian movement which originated in france right so yeah i guess you can trace it back to

00:07:41.420 people like elaine de benoit who i'd love to have on the show um and later guliami faye what can

00:07:47.080 you tell us about that and them about like the the founders yeah like the the identitarian movement

00:07:54.340 in france in general yeah um like uh generation identity was like the youth movement founded by

00:08:03.060 a four uh person like there was a philippe vardon um i don't remember uh guillaume luit and two

00:08:10.740 others uh sorry i don't remember that's okay but it was like uh yeah um uh the initiative to uh

00:08:17.460 uh be more um close to uh the the youth because the the identitarianism uh was actually uh already

00:08:27.140 a small thing in uh right-wing french politics but it was a bit niche and um they understood that

00:08:35.220 uh it was um the the youth actually is the uh the future and we have to speak about them like um

00:08:43.460 some, you know, there was already some thinkers like Guillaume Fay, authors and

00:08:51.620 like men more like the in their 40s or 50s talking about identitarianism. But it's really

00:08:59.460 generation identity that put these ideas to a larger audience. And yeah, it was a really good

00:09:08.580 idea and the idea also was to you know um it was um a bit frightening these ideas to uh the french

00:09:19.220 the french in general but also the french right wing politics because it had this image of like

00:09:24.420 skinhead things and the idea with generation identity was to put new faces and like to to

00:09:32.420 show we are normal just as you uh we uh do not have the same code as uh you know the the old

00:09:40.580 uh far-right uh movements in france we want to yeah to to have something more most sorry more

00:09:49.460 modern and uh so yeah it was basically the idea uh first the the colors were um black and yellow

00:09:59.140 and it was it were also still, you know, connoted with the skinhead groups also. That's why they 0.55

00:10:07.780 changed to blue and white. And really, the idea was to refresh these ideas. And now the

00:10:16.100 identitarianism is much more popular in French right wing. 0.87

00:10:21.460 It's ridiculous because it's not extreme. This is how our ancestors always thought their France 0.58

00:10:26.340 was for the french like this is not extreme europe was for the europeans our ancestors didn't

00:10:32.900 build this for everyone else to come and pillage you know so no i think the extremists are the

00:10:38.660 ones who are trying to destroy france who are trying to destroy europe like they're the ones

00:10:43.460 who need to be shamed exactly like it seems crazy to have to fight to say so so basic things i agree

00:10:51.860 with you but uh the french especially um they are very um you know uh rooted to anti-racism and it's 0.73

00:11:00.260 really uh uh really um how would i say it's uh frustrating i would say yes exactly and i don't

00:11:10.500 know how why is it the french in particular you know all the revolutions and all this stuff why

00:11:14.980 is it that they always tend to be more left it's very very frustrating like what is it you think

00:11:20.900 about the french mind have you thought about that i mean there's some great right-wing people but

00:11:25.060 there's a lot of leftists yeah yeah but i think that french uh france always had this thing to

00:11:31.380 to know lead the other nations of europe and to be like um uh you know the the the new um um

00:11:39.940 the new ideas like uh more modern uh uh people and um in the good ways and also in the bad ways

00:11:47.380 you know we we are the ones that really uh made identitarianism popular but also uh like you have

00:11:54.180 the the lumière of the french revolution as you said and um yeah french people have this thing to

00:12:00.660 think themselves as uh superior and a bit better uh from the other europeans like

00:12:07.220 we are more modern and civilized but sometimes it's just uh you know there's backlash

00:12:13.140 it's just not in the better ways yeah well they don't act like white supremacists when it comes

00:12:19.620 to migrants do they oh jeez I wish they would you know I wish they would be stuck up when it

00:12:25.040 came to migrants like no you're not welcome here yeah I also think like there is this 1.00

00:12:31.920 this thing with the Catholicism in France like sadly I'm a Christian myself I was raised as a

00:12:42.520 Catholic. So it's not like that I don't like Catholicism, but I think that this is this

00:12:49.340 pervert link with the universalism. Oh, yes. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yes. And it's really

00:12:57.920 consuming us. And it was really frustrating even for me. That's my Catholic fellow people.

00:13:07.020 yeah like if you ask them would you rather have your daughter married to a pagan or atheist white

00:13:16.500 guy or a black christian arab catholic and most of them would be like yeah the catholic is very

00:13:24.960 important and it just drives me mad to hear some things and i i can assure you that most of french

00:13:32.960 white-wing people could say that, and it's really a shame. So that's why also I fought to

00:13:40.620 impose most the identitarianism. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah, there's a note here. So between 1789 and

00:13:51.940 1802, an estimated, what was it, 1.4 million people, this is in France, died as a result of

00:13:56.540 the revolution and the subsequent Revolutionary War. So during the reign of terror, this was 1793,

00:14:02.960 1794 roughly 17 000 to 50 000 people were killed while hundreds of thousands more died in the civil

00:14:09.800 war of the vend right the vend so they killed the resistance to liberalism but i would think you

00:14:16.000 know new babies are born all the time right i mean some good stock was left over like you and and

00:14:21.720 your family yeah yeah of course like uh demography is the the key uh and uh hopefully the you know

00:14:31.740 people like us have a tendency to have more children than liberals and leftists

00:14:38.980 but still it's like really a struggle because when you make when you allow

00:14:46.780 it's 500,000 legal migrants to come to France every single year and it

00:14:55.940 represents the size of the fifth most important city uh of france which is uh nice uh it's really

00:15:04.180 huge and i'm just talking about like legal immigration so and you can't keep up with that

00:15:09.940 i mean the the third world is endless people you know two billion in in china a billion in india

00:15:16.660 however another billion in africa we can't q we can't keep up with that even if we were all to

00:15:21.620 have you know 50 kids or something it's and it shouldn't have to be population wars it shouldn't

00:15:26.980 have to be that we should just be able to reclaim our countries and i do want to talk about the

00:15:31.380 re-migration movement but i just want to ask you uh what can you tell us about the the legal cases

00:15:36.660 that happened with generation identitaire was dissolved by the french government in 2021

00:15:42.260 tell us why it was banned what's their legal reason are there things you can't talk about now still

00:15:48.260 yeah uh um i i wouldn't know how to um make you realize how much there is no freedom of speech in

00:15:57.380 france uh like i'm very jealous of your freedom of speech in the us because here we are not allowed

00:16:04.740 to say anything uh i am like the most radical uh french girl in the right-wing politics and

00:16:13.380 most of them are really you know soft and yeah but they are not like all that like that they are 0.97

00:16:19.460 good also immigrants this is really exhausting and generation identity was the most acceptable

00:16:27.700 and fashionable i would say a right-wing movement that was the the most radical in a good way and 1.00

00:16:35.460 so we were really a target for the government and the media they couldn't stand to have this

00:16:42.260 appealing group of nice nice guys and women and so they keep they kept attacking us and they

00:16:53.300 pretty much won in the end like for generational entity because the government started to open a

00:16:59.460 case to dissolve ban the movements it's it was too popular and it made so much you know like

00:17:11.140 buzz yeah for sure and uh and yes so we were the main targets and it happened right after the

00:17:18.500 government closed a um a uh radical uh mosque uh so it was like in um in the politics of emmanuel

00:17:28.820 macron to show like okay we uh we can um satisfy the uh right wing uh by closing for example this

00:17:38.020 mosque and also the left wing by banning generational entity as if it was comparable 0.59

00:17:45.220 as if it was the same like we are as extreme as an islamist mosque from the point of view 0.70

00:17:52.340 of the government which is crazy i could say to you that every time we were organizing an

00:18:00.020 an action, we were very, you know, precautious about where we, our point of meeting, et cetera,

00:18:09.940 and all the details of the actions, because we had like the general, the police, they had access

00:18:16.500 to our phones, they knew exactly where we were going to. Surveillance, they were monitoring

00:18:22.740 and surveilling you guys yeah yeah totally 100 uh i'm 100 sure that we have our phones on listening

00:18:31.540 you know uh so it's a common thing here when you are involved in politics uh to know these these

00:18:39.140 things to be aware of that so um uh this and also like we for every uh uh you know basic uh

00:18:47.940 things we are going to say like i was uh sued several times for saying such thing as uh

00:18:57.380 immigration is a threat for the french people uh and i was condemned to six months of uh

00:19:04.980 jail suspended prison sentence yeah exactly yes yes so six months and also a three thousand um

00:19:13.380 um 3 000 euros to give uh like to uh anti-racist uh uh associations and stuff oh my gosh yeah and

00:19:24.240 uh like uh even now i'm still sued for things i said when i was at generation and cd and it's

00:19:31.160 it's really uh it's really exhausting so you're still dealing with ongoing court cases still

00:19:36.740 yeah yeah still um like um uh right now like the the next um 18th of june i will have the

00:19:46.820 deliberate of a uh of a case like that because i just said like the the main danger for uh french

00:19:53.640 women are uh immigrant african uh black and arabs men and so i am risking jail too uh which is crazy

00:20:02.320 i haven't heard about any of this we need to put this on blast with everyone who speaks english to

00:20:06.280 help and support you i mean this is like v uh dries von logenhoff and martin selner like they've

00:20:11.980 all had these attacks happen as well right and they were kind of part of they were part of

00:20:16.120 offshoots of generation identity right and everyone's kind of still dealing with lawsuits

00:20:21.160 from several years ago yeah yeah um well that's true that i did not communicate this well on that

00:20:29.020 because i was really exhausted like it's been like six years since i am i'm involved in in

00:20:34.620 politics but my fault i'm gonna do that but um but yeah so the government banned generation

00:20:41.580 identity uh because it was like a hate group uh because it was a violent group we have obviously

00:20:48.620 no case of violence against anyone our actions were really pacific and uh it all happened really

00:20:56.380 well every time but um yeah we were like um um how would you say like a spine in the in the shoe

00:21:05.900 like you don't know a rock in the shoe yeah yeah yeah rock and shoe um yeah and um and so uh and

00:21:16.540 so yeah they they also said like we have um in our summer universities we uh wore uh the same t-shirts

00:21:24.140 they use that to say look it's a paramilitarian yes anytime it's it's guys working out who happen

00:21:31.500 to be right wing it's like some terrorist paramilitary group you know exactly see they 0.95

00:21:37.980 have a boxing group they uh they are training for war and uh such a ridiculous thing but you 0.99

00:21:44.060 have foreigners in your country doing that who actually are terrorists yeah yeah but like they 0.97

00:21:50.780 seem to deploy much more efforts and money to sue us, to attack us, to put us in jail. 1.00

00:22:01.660 Whereas like many immigrants who assault women are free, like they're not pursued by the police 1.00

00:22:09.980 because the police say that there are too many and they cannot manage all of the cases. Myself, 1.00

00:22:18.780 even myself i was uh attacked by a tunisian migrants uh even not because i was you know 0.68

00:22:26.380 exposed and i was uh assaulted because i'm a woman and um in uh he like he tried to rape me

00:22:36.300 like in two it was like in 2022 uh hopefully i um i was safe uh but uh like i could have been

00:22:46.620 raped you know and um my uh my uh found this uh assaulter uh is still free like i think i saw i

00:22:58.140 think i saw an article about that and they were trying to claim that basically like oh that didn't 0.80

00:23:02.180 really happen you know they just kind of downplay it and remember when they used to be like crazy

00:23:07.460 feminists and you know believe all women and this whole me too movement and the feminists of france 0.92

00:23:13.220 who walk around topless and do like where are they now are they like i don't i don't hear a 1.00

00:23:17.700 damn thing about this stuff you know right yeah they were claiming that i was lying because no 0.56

00:23:23.780 no it's too obvious like this girl is fighting against immigration and oh a migrant uh has 0.99

00:23:28.760 assaulted her yeah actually yeah because it's real and it's happening to a lot of women every

00:23:34.700 day and uh it happened to me and um it could happen to any other girl and um my own sister was

00:23:43.660 uh you know a um how would you say uh uh like when you testify when you are a witness a witness

00:23:53.660 thank you she was a witness of a terrorist assault in 2024 i think in paris so uh you know it can

00:24:02.000 happen to every single girl in my own family. We are two girls that were who faced the consequences

00:24:10.940 of immigration. And yeah, it's real. And it's getting worse every day. Exactly. Because that's

00:24:18.280 the thing. Like, OK, there's these court cases and they're like, oh, you're an extremist. And

00:24:22.360 how dare you and all this. But France today, like you have been vindicated. You know, you're one of

00:24:27.520 the OGs like us I mean it's worse now than 2018 you're proven right it's non-stop violence it's 0.98

00:24:34.920 riots it's anti-white hate it's rape women are constantly assaulted you can't even go to the 0.90

00:24:40.600 Eiffel Tower anymore you know forget Paris I've been there I remember the Eiffel Tower going up 0.98

00:24:46.220 when it was beautiful and now it's like you know girls get harassed there I see tourism videos all

00:24:50.920 the time of women getting harassed by migrants that are hanging out there I mean what can you

00:24:56.860 say about france today even since your activism well it's pretty depressing because uh yeah it's 0.69

00:25:05.340 getting worse and i just think that the right-wing french politics are too soft and uh and yeah it's

00:25:14.540 yeah it's really depressed depressing actually um like i left i um i lived in paris for two years

00:25:22.240 I left and now I'm living in a much more preserved area of France but still they are starting to

00:25:31.200 have cases of you know assaults also it's not really a phenomenon as in other areas of France

00:25:41.280 but even here it's happening so I don't know like really I don't know I don't know what's

00:25:46.560 um i think france is really uh disappearing uh each each day more than the the day before and i

00:25:57.360 i just don't know how we can do um anything uh except remigrate these people and still the the

00:26:06.880 french right wing is afraid to talk about remigration uh the only area you will hear

00:26:13.680 about re-migration are the activists uh areas um groups but uh it's it's not enough it's not enough

00:26:23.360 like we are losing ground every day and uh i i don't know what's going to happen of french

00:26:29.600 identity to be honest yeah speaking of re-migration yeah generation identity you know it did spread

00:26:35.760 across europe right it went into uk and germany and austria played a major role in in mainstreaming

00:26:41.360 the concept of remigration within the broader white identitarian movements i'd also say the

00:26:47.660 identitarian movements also influenced a lot of american activism as well like different groups

00:26:53.740 that we've seen through the years that kind of got that model also there was the nordic resistance

00:26:57.940 but you know it's evolved into this wider remigration push across european political

00:27:04.540 right-wing circles now i know you're happy to see this we're all happy to see this but is it true to

00:27:09.920 the vision or is it getting washed down and co-opted by civic nationalists in europe because

00:27:16.620 i see a little bit of that happening yeah um like let's just re-migrate the bad ones kind of thing

00:27:24.020 you know not like let's re-migrate all of them this is so annoying and this is the main discourse

00:27:30.000 in france uh like uh there is a basically not a single politic that uh has an identitarian view

00:27:39.600 they are like uh as you said the the the civilian nation um uh nationality like they are bad ones

00:27:47.600 but they do not represent the majority of them uh you know a uh like the um the immigrant descent 0.96

00:27:56.560 is as french as us uh it's always the discourse you hear so like yeah i'm really a bit jealous of

00:28:05.200 other European countries where the identitarianism is more popular and like I saw the Save Europe

00:28:15.120 Act and it's really great but not a single French politic has shared it you know only in a small

00:28:23.920 activist group as I spoke to you about and so yeah it's really not as radical as it should be and

00:28:34.400 And so, yeah, I think actually that maybe the future of the European countries, if white people want to survive, is to gather, to have small communities or to actually leave the country and to gather in more Eastern European countries who are more preserved.

00:28:56.920 uh i think that this is pretty much the the future that is um is uh in front of us actually

00:29:04.440 that's hard that's hard you know because there's still so many good french people but you're up

00:29:09.560 against your own people who are fighting you we're all up against our own people that are fighting 0.86

00:29:15.020 us like no other race deals with this garbage so it's it's even harder and i just wanted to remind

00:29:21.040 people in france like the kind of activism you guys were doing like justice for for elise i think we

00:29:26.380 have a clip that generation identitaire did for that and then as a reminder 2015 there was a yeah

00:29:32.380 this was a 24 year old french girl who was raped and murdered by a sudanese migrant her boyfriend

00:29:37.460 was also killed yeah i remember we were talking about these things we were getting banned on

00:29:42.080 youtube and everywhere like we could just you could not talk about this stuff 10 years ago right

00:29:46.220 at 2016 the best deal day the the terrorist attack i'm never going to forget that image of that

00:29:51.660 little girl who was dead on the street with her doll and like we still don't know who she is

00:29:56.940 like what's her story that was that was a heartbreaking one this is 10 years ago right

00:30:02.340 can't forget Lola 2022 you know cut up in a suitcase tortured and you know dismembered and

00:30:10.040 just absolutely horrific I don't understand how French people can continue to put up with it

00:30:14.820 because it keeps happening they just say oh it's one bad apple it's one bad apple but we're seeing

00:30:18.640 it all across europe but now you know 10 years ago we were talking about these things and we

00:30:23.900 took a lot of hits we lost our youtube channel bank accounts like everything but now i see a

00:30:28.860 lot more people talking about it especially in america i know france you've got some free speech

00:30:34.240 issues but i see also the henry nowak the the the white lives matter protests that are going on are

00:30:41.200 Are you seeing any of those in France?

00:30:43.800 Yeah, there was no protest for Henry Novak, like not really, actually. 1.00

00:30:52.220 I have this feeling that the French people, they are very lazy, like, and a bit coward. 1.00

00:31:00.020 I'm sorry, I'm French, I love my country, I love my people, obviously, but I have to 1.00

00:31:05.380 compare and to see that, like, even in Britain, they are more involved.

00:31:11.100 They go in the streets, there are huge protests.

00:31:15.380 You cannot organize anything like that in France.

00:31:17.740 These people will not go.

00:31:19.820 Like for Lola, I went in a small protest.

00:31:23.340 We were like 3,000, most like not more, and in Paris, you know, and I was like, this is

00:31:33.020 so depressing.

00:31:34.940 And literally, I wouldn't say that I knew every single person who went to this gathering,

00:31:41.560 but I knew a lot of people who were like very involved in politics.

00:31:45.360 So there were like no French normie, you know, no French.

00:31:50.180 No new people, fresh people.

00:31:51.820 Yeah.

00:31:52.820 Yeah.

00:31:53.820 And yeah, this is depressing. 1.00

00:31:55.220 Like French people are just waiting for things to, I don't know, like to work themselves. 1.00

00:32:03.220 I don't know. 1.00

00:32:04.220 I don't know. And then did you hear Jared Taylor? I don't know if you're familiar with Jared Taylor.

00:32:07.780 We love him. But while there was riots going on, there's riots going on every week there in France.

00:32:13.020 But while there's riots going on, he was in Paris and autographing some French translations of his book that was going to be put in the identitarian bookstore.

00:32:23.560 And then the police came to visit these identitarians who are basically having like a book club meeting.

00:32:29.560 and the cops are like you can't you can't do this this is this is dangerous and this is causing

00:32:35.380 trouble and like he's like laughing here jared like this picture like what are you talking about

00:32:40.700 here's you know here's some good french guys just hanging out talking about his book talking about 0.96

00:32:46.680 the real world that they're seeing while there's you know shit burning outside you know because 0.92

00:32:52.440 some someone lost a football game right it's like any excuse to riot anymore yeah did you hear about 0.92

00:32:58.300 this at all was there any french papers talking about jared taylor yeah of course i uh i heard

00:33:03.380 about this uh like you know the group uh is um uh les natifs it's uh like the the native person

00:33:11.120 who were a generation identity uh who recreated uh a group uh in paris it's called les natifs so

00:33:18.140 these are the activists i was talking about uh but yeah like it's crazy the the police is uh

00:33:24.860 um going at these small events and after this they're saying like uh you know police cannot

00:33:30.780 be everywhere we cannot deal with every uh rapist or assault and uh but they have free time to come

00:33:38.700 and uh annoy a small conference this is insane this is literally insane like the the the pressure

00:33:47.260 of uh the justice on the activists here is uh crazy um and uh and and yeah people are there

00:33:56.060 are very a few people who are brave enough to stand up and speak but there are not many and

00:34:03.660 even the like you know the the rassemblement national which is the main french right-wing

00:34:10.700 party uh hasn't spoke about it they they do not care because they estimate like that

00:34:15.420 Jerry Taylor or these activists are two extremists extremists yeah extreme for

00:34:22.540 wanting to preserve your people and survive you know have oh my god god's

00:34:27.420 forbid we have France for the French people so extreme it's it's so yeah it's 1.00

00:34:32.520 just outrageous to me you know and then fine I feel like okay fine you just die 1.00

00:34:36.980 off then just die off and then you know like the the strong French will survive 1.00

00:34:42.060 and take over yeah yeah and then and then of course you're a lot i mean is there any right

00:34:47.140 wing parties with game i mean because what i noticed too across europe and i know you probably

00:34:50.360 can't say too much about this but it's like there's a lot of israel first they care more

00:34:54.340 about israel seems like the right wing parties than their own countries right right this is

00:35:00.360 very exhausting exactly they are more concerned about what's going on in israel but not in their

00:35:07.240 own country when like people like us who are fighting the same struggle are are being sued

00:35:15.080 and put in prison and so yeah you showed images of some girls trying to have like a small gathering

00:35:25.240 in to for Henry Novak but like as I said it's there are small initiatives of activists

00:35:34.520 um but uh not like really uh there is no institution who spoke about this and uh so yeah

00:35:43.080 so but as you showed like jordan exactly what i said like he's more concerned about the

00:35:49.480 the israeli uh issue it's like are they getting money i i don't understand is this part of their

00:35:55.400 religion or is it money or like what's their reasoning for you know i think this is there is

00:36:00.340 money involved, to be sure, even in some activist groups. I know, but I can't say the name, but

00:36:10.040 like, yes, there is Israeli money in the French right wing. It's really exhausting.

00:36:17.540 And it's kind of circling around some of that re-migration camp, too. I see that happening, 1.00

00:36:23.060 you know, they're like, kind of trying to take that over for them. Yeah, let's deport the Muslims. 1.00

00:36:27.800 yeah the ones that their NGOs helped bring in yes okay so you were fourth of nine kids in a large 0.99

00:36:39.280 practicing Catholic is this true aristocratic family is this is this true or is this okay

00:36:44.860 so tell us about that yes growing up well um as you said I was uh I grew up in uh in this

00:36:53.880 Catholic aristocratic family I could say but you know when you say aristocratic many people think

00:37:00.400 like you're rich or something we are definitely not but it's more like a heritage like a cultural

00:37:07.940 every heritage most of these families are very catholic very they practice the religion a lot

00:37:15.480 because some people like say they believe in something but they do not actually go to mass

00:37:20.120 etc uh in in my family they are very involved in uh in religion and um and so yeah it was

00:37:28.440 how was it um well i had a pretty common childhood but as i said i was um in um christian schools

00:37:39.320 uh and also in the you know the scouts um and um there is there are very very small communities but

00:37:47.800 there are white Catholic communities and I grew up with this environment so as I said I wasn't

00:37:55.880 really aware of the reality of what my parents were describing to me like you know France is

00:38:04.440 drowning this is really bad like we are coming in in really dark times etc and I really saw the

00:38:15.400 the reality of it when I went into the world.

00:38:18.820 Yes, as always, red pilled by reality.

00:38:22.860 Yes, you grow up and you learn things, you know, when you come out of your nice little

00:38:26.700 secluded, you know, I would say that here, the people that grow up in the nice white 1.00

00:38:30.760 neighborhoods are always the most retarded with this stuff because they haven't actually 0.99

00:38:34.900 lived, they don't have the lived experience of, you know, diversity or whatever. 1.00

00:38:40.060 Yeah, even though in the kind of families I'm describing you, they are still

00:38:44.480 very right-wing. So, yes, it's a good thing. Not all Christians, of course, in France are

00:38:53.180 right-wing, but there are still many of them. I think that maybe the majority of the Catholics

00:39:02.300 in France are right-wing, not very identitarian, but still they are still right-wing, like soft 0.61

00:39:09.560 right wing at least uh so do your are your parents and your peers like come on ties you need to have

00:39:15.540 like six kids by now yeah come on what's going on my my parents would really much uh love having

00:39:24.020 lots of great grandchildren uh so so yeah they are not pressuring us but it's still a thing like

00:39:33.120 we uh we just um know that uh we we will have uh as much as children as we we we can uh also

00:39:43.100 because like the christian discourse is like be open to life uh you know be fruitful and multiply

00:39:49.060 and i think that's a good idea anyway especially right now yes yeah so after oh sorry go on no no

00:39:57.160 I was only going to add like that it was I developed more a ethnocentric vision

00:40:08.760 apart from the religion discourse like and also red pill a bit my family about this like

00:40:16.040 you know it's good to multiply and have many children as Catholics but you know we also like

00:40:22.840 france is also what it is because it was white and they knew it for sure but like it's it's

00:40:28.840 better to put some words to it yeah sometimes you just have to be forward and not mince words and

00:40:33.880 just be very clear so there's no misunderstanding it's just out in the open i think that's very

00:40:40.200 important so after generation identity after it was dissolved or forcefully dissolved it appears

00:40:46.520 that you kind of shifted your online contents you went you know anti-feminist european patriarchy

00:40:53.160 prioritizing family um you know i want to know about your motivation for this obviously it's

00:40:58.520 still very much all related to the war on white so it's an important topic i mean using feminism

00:41:04.200 to bring about less births among europeans this actually happened but tell us your motivation for

00:41:09.320 that switch well there were several motivations uh first as you said the the ban of the of the

00:41:16.360 movement i was involved in uh it really um was a hard um strike on my uh um how i would say my uh

00:41:26.840 reputation my happiness it was really hard to it was really hard to uh uh also the reputation yes

00:41:35.400 but uh uh it was hard to accept that and uh for some years um like we were very uh discreet and

00:41:46.360 I would say, careful about what we were saying because the censorship was awful and I had like maybe 20 Instagram accounts banned, my Twitter account was banned, then also before Elon Musk would, you know, buy Twitter, at that time it wasn't the case, so like I had no Instagram, no Facebook, no Twitter.

00:42:14.640 and the only social medias I had were YouTube and Telegram.

00:42:22.480 And so, yeah, I realized that maybe to survive,

00:42:28.880 I had to maybe for a while not speak about these topics

00:42:33.420 because I couldn't be able to soften on these topics.

00:42:38.520 So it was better not to speak about them.

00:42:41.580 So this was one motivation.

00:42:44.640 Also, I was really, I would say, my education was really, you know, patriarchal and traditional and anti-feminist.

00:42:55.020 And I was really concerned to see that the French right wing was really feminist.

00:43:02.760 And I think all the right wing parties are.

00:43:06.080 You see in America, too.

00:43:07.260 I know you and I were talking about that. 1.00

00:43:08.640 It's just it's lots of feminists. 1.00

00:43:10.660 They are. 1.00

00:43:11.460 and um and they were so proud and they get their woman leader talking it's just like oh yeah yeah

00:43:17.060 i know and actually i was i was kind of aware that my own case like the media were interested

00:43:23.220 by me uh because you were a woman yeah yeah of course i knew that so i um i never hid myself

00:43:30.180 behind my finger it's an expression i don't know if you have it but i never like oh no it's because

00:43:35.780 i have talent or like of course i love to um spoke uh to speak sorry about these topics i love the

00:43:44.020 having interviews etc but i never uh you know um uh i would say um uh ignore the fact that of course

00:43:54.580 they would listen to me more because i was a woman i was a woman same and it's it's really sad

00:44:01.220 actually to take the you know the place of men but because i have it and that's how the the word

00:44:07.700 um the the media world is working so yes i think in your case there's a very important value

00:44:13.800 because it's about attracting you know women attract other women i've been saying this for

00:44:17.740 years right and so that was important and your work was like i mean come on if we're gonna have 0.95

00:44:23.360 women working in anything politically it's about saving saving our race and saving your ethnic your

00:44:28.900 your legacy your ancestry your people your country like yeah i'm never gonna say no to that 1.00

00:44:33.940 but i'm saying no to these like you know fake civic nationalist feminist women who are they're 0.94

00:44:39.700 not gonna do shit to help us okay yeah i know so i wanted to have like a um a complete and full 0.95

00:44:48.660 discourse on every topic like okay i'm an identitarian but i'm also anti-feminist and 0.90

00:44:54.000 I'm not renouncing my positions on any of these topics and I was really I knew that the right wing French right wing was a bit feminist but not at this level you know I was a bit shocked by the reactions but anyway I still continue to talk about this and to say that okay it is important to fight against immigration of course but French identity is also based on like patriarchal you know civilization

00:45:24.000 and it's great uh we have to defend it also and like men we need you to be uh more masculine 0.71

00:45:30.780 uh we need you uh to stop being sims for any any right-wing girl who will stop giving your money

00:45:39.480 to e-girls yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's still an issue but anyway and um so uh so yeah it was

00:45:47.040 also a topic um which interested me at that at that time because you know i'm a young french

00:45:52.780 girl uh i'm um i'm younger and i'm um you know at the the age where you are interested in these

00:46:01.980 topics because we are all looking for a partner uh to build a life to have a family and so um at a

00:46:09.420 individual and personal level um i was interested in female psychology and masculine psychology

00:46:17.580 to understand uh what are what are our differences and um and so yeah uh it was also like because it

00:46:26.940 interested me uh like uh yeah yeah i happened to see when i was kind of googling around about you

00:46:34.860 i was like oh my gosh we're both in this university textbook there's a chapter dedicated to just you

00:46:41.100 in me this is coming out in 2026 influencers of the far-right gendered narratives and the

00:46:47.240 conspiracy discourse of ties to escafan and lana lochtaf i was like wow that's actually how i was

00:46:52.700 like oh yeah that girl i remember that girl i was like i need to reach out and interview her this is

00:46:58.420 hilarious you know and then i put it together of like oh you were the girl that i saw all those

00:47:02.640 years ago and stuff so i thought this was funny so i was looking through it and it's like oh my

00:47:07.400 gosh all the money that goes into this the eu money and i think there was danish money and french

00:47:13.240 money and just all this right and so this chapter analyzes how two prominent female far-right 0.64

00:47:19.860 influencers and they call me american swedish which i'm actually russian yes i'm in america 1.00

00:47:24.780 but i'm russian so they can't even get that right use gendered narratives within conspiracy discourse 1.00

00:47:30.200 it examines the way these women embed gendered themes such as traditional femininity anti-feminism 1.00

00:47:36.420 family roles and threats to natural gender orders and broader conspiracy theories these theories 0.99

00:47:42.420 often involve white genocide demographic replacement cultural marxism or elite plots

00:47:47.420 against traditional western societies um and then it talks about how they're softening extremism

00:47:53.060 and and getting people to accept it and it's like yeah because it's true that's why people accept it

00:47:59.140 because it's true what we're saying and like it's it's funny because i feel like they're 10 years

00:48:04.640 behind when I read some of these and some of the quotes they put in there was like from stuff from

00:48:09.080 like 2017 is like where are where have you people been the last 10 years like this is old news no

00:48:15.180 one cares about this right I was really glad that you reached out to me because I was feeling a bit

00:48:23.000 alone with my views like on both topics and I'm always really glad to see also a beautiful white

00:48:31.920 family you know and uh uh so um so so yeah really uh you know family goal well hopefully some other

00:48:40.360 people read this and whatever universities this is going in uh this this one is albori university

00:48:46.320 but they pass this stuff around it's still in production so hopefully there's women that read

00:48:50.200 this that are in university and then they go and like look us up and are like actually i agree with

00:48:55.240 these women because time is just proving us right you know they're these aren't theories of 0.87

00:49:00.760 demographic replacement okay or like cultural marxism or that there's a plot against traditional

00:49:07.300 western society this is not a theory this is a fact like we're seeing it happen this is crazy

00:49:13.480 like it's conspiracy but uh it's uh it's forcing you to change districts it's forcing you to uh

00:49:20.520 not stay uh out too long like at night because you you know you're afraid to get assaulted but

00:49:26.560 it's conspiracy theory you know you know exactly what kind of men you are afraid about in the

00:49:31.840 street you know exactly that um everyone like the the black people the asian people everyone

00:49:38.320 they can be proud of who they are except the white people yes so everyone knows it but like they are 0.94

00:49:44.720 just too coward or afraid to say it and they are uh submitting to the the main discourse like uh 0.94

00:49:51.440 i think there there are some um you know evolutionary uh explanations to that like you

00:49:58.160 you submit to the dominance group to survive you know i think there is this maybe instinct

00:50:05.840 that many people are you know are expressing by uh shutting down themselves on on that but deep

00:50:14.000 down they all know it's it's it's obvious yeah these books keep coming out i kind of think like

00:50:18.640 Like I hear less about the feminist movement, at least in America.

00:50:21.460 I think it's with with Trump and all that.

00:50:23.300 But there was another book, the women of the far right.

00:50:25.740 And this was like a little too late, babe.

00:50:28.420 And more quotes from 2017. 0.99

00:50:30.040 And she's like talking about Lauren Southern, who's like basically a liberal feminist.

00:50:35.440 Brittany Selner, who she's just kind of removed herself, you know, and then it attacks me,

00:50:39.940 goes off about me and like all.

00:50:42.640 I was like, OK, let me just see how many times my name is mentioned.

00:50:46.280 it was like 197 times or something and it's like you know and I mentioned several other women who

00:50:53.620 I interviewed back when I was interviewing like a bunch of women who were speaking out against

00:50:57.900 feminism and anti-whiteness and and I got attacked you know big time for it but let me just take you

00:51:04.740 back to 2017 what were some of the articles that were going around having a white nuclear family

00:51:11.660 promotes white supremacy okay like that's the kind of stuff that we were dealing with and us

00:51:17.260 women were speaking out against as as as wives as future moms or moms like you know we were 1.00

00:51:23.460 going to put our foot down to this like this woman writing this kind of crap or how about this one i 0.98

00:51:28.080 remember this one also that same year the women fighting for white male supremacy talking about 0.98

00:51:32.640 like patriarchy and all that we were speaking out against the rise of anti-whiteness and the

00:51:39.000 the rise of attacking the straight white man like that was really happening in america in this time

00:51:45.080 and now trump yeah i mean with trump it's gotten better but it's still there and it's going to

00:51:50.020 come back with a vengeance after trump here was another one what was this 20 i mean i could go

00:51:54.680 over and over but yeah there's britney i used to have britney on several times ladies night at the

00:51:59.620 alt-right meet the women trying to soften the white nationalist movement you know constantly

00:52:03.820 attacking us but a lot has changed in the last decade um so what are your thoughts on women

00:52:11.180 all over social media now being pro-whites how pro-whites um what is their uh white power level

00:52:18.720 i should say some of them still get banned as well but what do you think about that

00:52:22.580 like in um uh in the american sphere yeah american sphere yeah because you don't really 1.00

00:52:28.240 have much in the french sphere but or if you just go on x i mean there's women from all over europe

00:52:32.300 and australia and america like now that are talking about these pro-white themes right things

00:52:38.240 that you and i have just been like you know paid a price for talking about right but now we're

00:52:43.960 seeing more of it which is a good thing but i feel like i i we have to stay on them so that it's not

00:52:48.620 just trendy but that it's like they're actually in it because their heart's in it you know what i

00:52:52.880 mean yeah of course yeah as as we spoke about like there are some who are like larpers or yes 0.99

00:52:59.880 but grifters I think yeah exactly but I think still that there are many more and more women 0.98

00:53:07.180 speaking about it and realizing the reality just by you know going out and seeing the reality with

00:53:15.540 their own eyes and and so so yeah it's of course a good thing they want their men to protect them

00:53:23.000 they want them to like you know impose themselves to be masculine to defend their countries like we

00:53:29.760 so much deeply need it as women like to admire our men that who will be the

00:53:37.400 defensors of our nations and I think yeah it's maybe a try to to wake up our 0.98

00:53:47.640 men who are too you know too soft too silent and and so it's a bit like in

00:53:57.540 in despair like you know they're a bit desperate like for men to wake up and maybe it will work

00:54:03.140 like men of course want to please also women and if they see women speaking speaking out about this

00:54:11.140 and themselves they are not they have not the courage to do it maybe it will you know put some

00:54:17.620 thoughts in their mind to say like okay maybe maybe i should speak up too uh you know she's

00:54:23.140 capable of doing it and why not me and um so so yeah it's uh you know they want they want to wake

00:54:31.100 up uh the the european men i think yeah and that's a good thing and there's a lot of men out there

00:54:36.260 looking for wives you know and they they want the the trad wife now i through the years i'm like trad

00:54:42.200 in what traditional in what era because you know it's going to be different when i mean for me i

00:54:49.200 like primordial traditionalism just what what's right for your biology and what's right in your

00:54:55.320 marriage too and you you discover that as as you go you just kind of find your natural place you

00:55:00.680 know we don't have to overthink it but there is those kind of larpers and things i happen to see 1.00

00:55:04.580 this article come meet because guys they want this right they're sick and tired of feminism 1.00

00:55:08.640 come meet the real trad wives of only fans like okay so there's a trad wife to only fans pipeline 0.98

00:55:19.080 yeah and so it's like oh i'm making cookies and then i'm here i'm showing you know a little bit 1.00

00:55:25.800 of butt cheek or some extra cleavage and then like giving conservative preppy trad wife with

00:55:34.940 and only fans on the side so there's that they're like trying to appeal to those what do you think

00:55:41.100 about that when you see i mean i guess there's always been that right and probably in porn like

00:55:46.560 oh the 1950 the french maid right yeah of course they like you know they um the the women know

00:55:55.920 deeply uh like deep down they know what uh really is appealing to men um and so uh you know in um

00:56:04.060 um yeah in an area in an epoch where uh women are always chasing attention uh this is a very

00:56:13.440 fast way of getting a lot of attention from men so i think this is like the main motivation for

00:56:20.760 these women uh and also like sell their bodies and oh yeah of course yeah so there was the trad 1.00

00:56:27.380 wife to only fans pipeline but there's also the porn hub only fans to trad wife pipeline so then

00:56:34.820 it's like oh i've cleaned up i've changed my i know i did porn back then or whatever but

00:56:39.300 now i'm like i'm trad wife and i'm looking for a husband and there's a lot of guys are like uh no

00:56:44.460 thanks like oh i'm um i'm converted to catholicism now so i'm basically as pure as you well not

00:56:52.560 really like it's it's really also an issue like with uh you know the the catholic empathy like

00:56:58.000 it's it's a good thing but i think like uh maybe it's a bit too much when you did porn uh you want

00:57:04.800 to change it's a good thing but then you are giving lessons to other women online like just 0.91

00:57:09.600 shut up and you know change in your personal life do what you have to do uh find a man who you know 1.00

00:57:16.800 who you will be transparent about and honest and who forgive you and marry you eventually but like 1.00

00:57:23.120 let's uh place for real that tried white women to speak like you know you are not very in a position 0.99

00:57:29.360 to give lessons about life to others uh and so it's really a shame that we promote these women

00:57:36.160 um because uh like in the name of you know catholicism etc i don't think this is a very good

00:57:43.440 image this is not giving a good image of catholicism like you can do whatever you want to

00:57:48.640 do and then you just have to be baptized and everything is forgotten like yeah it's of course

00:57:54.880 it's the message of catholicism to forgive you but then you have to adjust still to what you did

00:58:01.520 in the past like if you want to change you have to make adjustments and not uh you know continue

00:58:06.320 your life uh have the same bad habits to always look up for attention uh you know you have to put

00:58:13.840 barriers to yourself and be discreet and uh and then well it's good to some of us to some of us

00:58:21.840 women that comes natural like i i kind of didn't have to overthink those things once i got married 1.00

00:58:26.960 it was just kind of you just kind of naturally figure those things out you know but some women 0.95

00:58:31.920 they really need it spelled out and they really need to be shamed into it and they need to be told 0.87

00:58:36.400 about the the obvious things i don't know if someone just didn't tell them or it's just who

00:58:41.680 they are or maybe they need to grow up in some ways yeah maybe all of this i mean these are all

00:58:48.720 valid reasons i guess uh it depends on the girl but yeah it's also why i i a bit spoke about uh

00:58:55.760 you know shaming women on their body count etc because uh i think that there isn't um

00:59:03.280 you know uh shaming anymore uh before it was something like very common and i'm not of course

00:59:09.520 talking about harassing these women and the violence against them of course when i when i

00:59:15.680 talk about uh when i talked about slut shaming even the right-wing french sphere uh told me like 0.87

00:59:22.240 Like, oh, you want to do, like, these immigrant Arabs who are, you know, 0.89

00:59:26.100 telling our women to cover themselves. 0.99

00:59:30.100 No, maybe we can have maybe a position in between, you know, 0.90

00:59:35.700 to not defend, like, women who are just giving their bodies to anyone

00:59:40.700 without any judgment.

00:59:42.940 No, of course not. 0.56

00:59:44.420 Like, we have also to preserve our white girls. 0.83

00:59:47.180 Like, it's also in the interest of our people. 0.68

00:59:51.540 It's sacred.

00:59:52.240 Yeah, yeah, it's sacred. And it's, you know, there is an obvious link between white families, 0.85

00:59:59.560 identitarianism, and also women having, you know, moral judgment and not behaving like, 0.98

01:00:05.820 you know, yeah, you know what, like, sorry. But yeah, and yes, some people just don't understand

01:00:15.020 the link between that. It's crazy to me. But yeah, I think that some women, because of their

01:00:20.040 education but also because of who they are and uh you know they understand that their body is 0.98

01:00:25.640 sacred you you do not have to to do uh anything uh you know um everything and anything with it

01:00:32.200 uh like it have consequences it can hurt you uh it can uh you know um traumatize you and uh but

01:00:40.780 some women sadly didn't have maybe uh good parents uh who didn't protect them that's why it's

01:00:47.340 important for women to speak out and older women to you know educate younger girls on on the

01:00:52.920 potential pitfalls and the mistakes and the blind spots and you know a lot a lot of us when we're

01:00:58.340 really young I mean you figure things out at a young age but a lot of young people I'd say across

01:01:03.960 the board you know they have all these blind spots they don't see things I mean how many of us that

01:01:08.800 are older look back and like oh my god if I would have realized that when I was you know 21 or

01:01:14.280 something could have saved myself a lot of troubles yeah of course obviously and it's also like 0.95

01:01:20.800 because i have i still have a empathy for these women like they they need we need to to to tell

01:01:27.160 them the truth like uh it's not um it's not doing them a favor to uh to be afraid to speak about

01:01:35.000 these topics because we do not want to offend them but yeah but it's still reality they will

01:01:40.140 be hurt by these behaviors so so we have to reinstall like a strict discourse on this

01:01:49.680 you know we we do not have to be soft I think on this topic and and also I was going to say

01:01:58.120 that yeah I think it's important also to not let you know the the the discourse about preserving

01:02:06.740 your body and not doing uh everything and anything to it uh we do not have to let this discourse be

01:02:12.900 the the muslim discourse because you know there is this discourse in france but most of the people 0.92

01:02:17.940 relating to it are religious people but you know muslims and uh it's a shame like where are the 0.74

01:02:24.500 the good men and women who uh who know their value and um who are not falling for this uh

01:02:30.900 liberal where you can do what you want and nothing will happen to you or your mind

01:02:36.740 So, yeah, I think it's important to speak about it. And that's also why I did it. Yeah, it's built into our biology. You know, when it feels wrong, you know, when you know it, you know, it, you know, when you look in the mirror and you're like, this doesn't feel right. I don't look right. Oh, I just wanted to show you. I think you had reposted this message. What was it in Russia? This was on X. Russia recommends sending women age 18 to 49 who do not want children to a psychiatrist.

01:03:02.100 maybe they need yeah maybe they need to work out some mom shit you know that might be part of it 1.00

01:03:11.160 because there's always there's usually a reason you know why yeah why women don't think about 1.00

01:03:17.160 certain things until late or if at all you know yeah they also need to like hold children uh to

01:03:26.560 you know be around children and the the sad reality is that people are are making less and

01:03:33.760 less babies so a lot of women are just not exposed to them and it's you know they do not then feel

01:03:42.240 the need to have one also you know and and also of course many of them maybe it's trauma maybe

01:03:49.360 it's also selfishness because you know the society tells us that it's comfort comfort is important

01:03:55.360 you have to have money to have a good life and children are going to rob you from your money and

01:04:02.000 so yeah it's it's a very um selfish discourse that we are selling women like they will be free if

01:04:08.960 they do not have kids free of their time free to do whatever they want and uh and then they just

01:04:14.960 binge watch netflix that's all they do with their life like oh you should be so proud you just drink

01:04:20.880 can watch tv i'm in my dream and it's better than i imagined your kid uh your kid is uh is um

01:04:28.640 sorry like um um keeping you away from netflix oh my god what a disaster and uh and and so so

01:04:39.920 but like time flies so fast and if we do not uh tell the truth to girls and uh put a little

01:04:46.160 bit of pressure uh i think there is same pressure and uh you know um not saying pressure but it's

01:04:54.080 also loving advice you know yeah yeah encouragement take your time to to choose the the right one

01:05:01.520 the right man of course but you know uh by 30 your your fertility is already declining and uh

01:05:08.800 and it's important to not wake up at 40 and be like oh my god actually i maybe wanted to have

01:05:13.600 children yeah like no man wants to find a to found a family with me and it's sad actually it's really

01:05:20.480 sad yeah yep last question for you because i know a lot of guys watch yes dating advice for male

01:05:26.640 viewers i know that's a big one or guys who think that they want a wife like you i'm sure everyone's 0.97

01:05:32.480 gonna ask you if you're single how does a guy catch a wife like you what does it take i would

01:05:39.840 say that um um good men like uh appeal to women naturally because uh you know um if you want to

01:05:49.520 have a good wife a good girl uh who is well preserved who has nice views uh you know there

01:05:56.080 are not so many of them and so uh it's sad but nowadays it's uh getting more and more rare so

01:06:02.960 you have to focus on yourself you have to uh become like a man who can provide for his family

01:06:09.520 who can defend it uh you have to to uh you know uh be um confident about yourself i know it's

01:06:17.040 an easy thing to say but when you achieve things in life such as a good job or you have you are

01:06:24.480 helping your family it's things like that that give you gives you confidence you know uh like um

01:06:30.480 uh the you know the the coaches on the internet they're saying like if you want to be proud of

01:06:36.080 yourself you have to accept who you are and bullshit like that i think that to to get

01:06:40.720 confidence is by achieving hard things you cannot become um um fully development if you uh never 0.93

01:06:49.920 faced uh the the hardness the hardness of reality like harsh things uh you have to confront yourself

01:06:57.840 to difficult situations and things uh like um maybe uh first of all to uh to to dare to speak

01:07:06.800 out when you are you don't agree with someone maybe on policy on politics subjects uh instead of

01:07:13.920 a um of a sorry of a instead of saying of staying quiet uh maybe it's also like uh uh yeah

01:07:23.600 helping your family you know in their finances or maybe to sorry to be able to fix things you know

01:07:36.880 sport of course it's also very important in the development of a man to to be confronted to

01:07:42.880 frustration also all these things will make you a better man and if you are a good man i'm sure a

01:07:49.920 good woman will love you. I do not have a fear about that. Exactly. If you build it,

01:07:57.360 they will come. If you work on yourself, right, you will attract that best mate. I think there

01:08:03.960 really is like a spiritual concept of that, right? You can't just be doom and gloom,

01:08:10.620 you know, just blackpilled all the time and then expect like that's going to happen. No. Yeah,

01:08:15.020 exactly work on yourself in the meantime and then it will she will present herself and then you'll

01:08:21.260 ask her out yeah actually you know the the the um like the the advices we hear uh it's like you know

01:08:30.940 uh say this to the girl act like that like it's not natural it will not work that's fake to be

01:08:37.020 you have to be yourself but um you know uh in the way i describe like of it um you have to be the

01:08:43.420 best version of yourself yes be confident about it and the rest will follow it's uh it's an

01:08:49.660 evidence and so the second advice i could give is when you are this man develop discernment to find

01:08:56.540 the girl and to give attention to the difference between a girl who is really like uh honest and

01:09:04.380 sincere about her views and someone who is just larping you know yeah someone that's that's hiding

01:09:09.900 or pretending but i think that's again if you are a fully developed man you you feel that you know

01:09:18.860 you're not a simp you're not in a constant need of validation and attention from women

01:09:24.620 so uh you are not troubled in your dis in your discernment by that like um so yeah i think that's

01:09:31.740 great advice and i think you are wise beyond your years and i look forward to hearing about your

01:09:36.940 seven babies you're going to I hope so because you know if anyone's going to have them it's got

01:09:43.400 to be like women like you that just can have as many as they can I know women they're having as

01:09:47.380 many as they can and I just like they're heroes you know these are the heroes of western civilization

01:09:52.500 right now the you know the men that are fighting back against this that are pushing for you know

01:09:57.560 remigration and mass deportation and taking our countries back and the women who are holding the

01:10:02.220 the home front and who are raising the babies and having the babies and having babies who are whole

01:10:09.100 you know spiritually mentally physically and aware right and anchored in the truth and so

01:10:14.860 thank you so much yeah this is the future and i um i was raised like that so of course it's not

01:10:22.540 a thing that um i never questioned myself about having children but the more i i grew up the more

01:10:30.140 I really enjoy the fact that I'm a woman and this will be my role and actually it is not degrading

01:10:37.260 it's just oh you're just a mom no like the being a mother it's the most beautiful thing a woman

01:10:44.220 could ever do and actually I'm very happy to be a woman to experience one day I hope soon but like

01:10:53.340 having children raising them this is very like it's it's the future um apart from any political

01:11:00.380 discourse you know sometimes you can be a bit exhausted by the politics uh and but the the

01:11:06.620 thing you can do still is having babies having families strong families and raising the next

01:11:13.180 generation uh to you know uh um you know hold the the torch like yeah hold the torch hold the line

01:11:21.900 they can't replace us if we keep reproducing right and we reproduce

01:11:26.280 yes it's the only thing that matter yes 100% well thank you so much let people

01:11:33.140 know where they can find you your links I think you were banned from Instagram

01:11:37.800 but your tick I saw tick-tock you have a big presence there as well yeah tick

01:11:42.300 tock YouTube which is translating some of my videos in English so maybe it's

01:11:48.420 better for the english speakers that are hearing us right now also twitter uh but i'm going to be

01:11:55.220 more uh active on twitter i wasn't really lately because also of my trials and stuff and i was a

01:12:02.420 bit exhausted at the individual level but i'm i'm going to be more active i promise and let people

01:12:08.020 know what's going on there you should post that x is a good place to post that and let people know

01:12:12.500 what you're what you're going through to bring awareness to it i'm definitely going to do it

01:12:16.620 in the next following days, I promise.

01:12:19.240 And I have my lawyer who is working

01:12:22.760 on getting my Instagram account back.

01:12:24.500 So I will post it on Twitter if I get it back.

01:12:28.640 So yeah, this is basically where you can follow me.

01:12:32.080 Okay, sounds good.

01:12:32.860 Well, thank you.

01:12:33.300 I'll have to have you back sometime in the future.

01:12:35.980 Yeah, yeah, I'd be glad to.

01:12:37.720 I hope I was understandable enough.

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Red Ice TV - June 12, 2026

Generation Identity & Women of the Far Right with Thaïs d’Escufon

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