Red Ice TV - How Are The Trans & Drag Poster Children, Jazz and Desmond Doing Today？

00:00:00.000 Jazz Jennings was the TV poster child for going trans and using puberty blockers. 0.73

00:00:05.660 The show promoting child transition called I Am Jazz is still running in its eighth year

00:00:11.360 on TLC, the Learning Channel.

00:00:14.080 I happened to see a few clips on Twitter the other day and decided to check in and see

00:00:17.580 how Jazz is doing.

00:00:19.200 Well, he had his bottom removed and inverted and now has a binge eating disorder, is obese,

00:00:25.760 depressed, and says he doesn't feel like himself.

00:00:28.440 Go figure.

00:00:29.140 His mother acts like it's not a big deal and all is normal.

00:00:33.660 Let's check out a little trailer for this new season. 0.81

00:00:40.660 This season on I Am Jazz.

00:00:43.460 Two years ago, I was on my way to one of the greatest institutions in the world, but I

00:00:48.780 was actually struggling severely with mental health issues.

00:00:52.300 You think?

00:00:53.520 I started binge eating and I gained weight and more weight and more weight.

00:00:57.020 And now, almost 100 pounds heavier, here I am today.

00:01:01.520 Except what you are.

00:01:02.760 It's a big old belly. 0.96

00:01:04.160 Exactly.

00:01:04.440 Oh my god.

00:01:05.440 Side view.

00:01:07.780 I'm out of shape.

00:01:09.120 Be easy on me.

00:01:10.160 Not the body of a happy person.

00:01:11.560 I can't do so many things with my body that I used to be able to do.

00:01:15.040 You tell me they have fat shaming here on TLC? 0.98

00:01:17.520 Hey.

00:01:18.240 How are you?

00:01:19.320 This is my first formal date with a trans woman.

00:01:22.020 Oh.

00:01:22.840 Oh.

00:01:23.100 Oh my god. 1.00

00:01:24.820 Sander is disgusting. 1.00

00:01:26.220 Disgusting. 1.00

00:01:26.560 He has two balloons they put under his skin right there. 1.00

00:01:30.160 Oh my god.

00:01:30.180 I don't think I've done something like this carefree in a while.

00:01:33.100 This is a great first date with an amazing and beautiful woman.

00:01:38.940 It's a TV show, folks. 1.00

00:01:40.900 It has a dick. 1.00

00:01:41.680 You know it. 1.00

00:01:41.960 This beautiful trans woman.

00:01:43.000 Nice Jewish family here.

00:01:44.240 Oh, cross-eyed and martini.

00:01:47.240 Dear, dear friend, Miss Peppermint.

00:01:48.660 I just wonder if they've dabbled in that.

00:01:51.760 That's, oh, is this the grandma here?

00:01:54.320 That is cool.

00:01:54.740 What is this?

00:01:55.300 Let's look at that again here.

00:01:56.480 I mean, I've heard of eyes close together.

00:01:58.280 This is cross-eyed and close together.

00:02:00.140 That is what we call the third of each ratio.

00:02:04.060 I got blue pills.

00:02:06.500 This beautiful trans woman.

00:02:08.760 No.

00:02:08.960 Sander, he gets along very well with transgender women.

00:02:11.720 He has a dear, dear friend, Miss Peppermint.

00:02:13.740 I just wonder if they've dabbled in them.

00:02:18.080 Shirtless Sander, there he is.

00:02:19.760 I don't know what my reaction is. 0.94

00:02:21.060 This is disgusting.

00:02:21.980 Of course it is. 0.96

00:02:22.320 Like, they're just promoting.

00:02:24.840 Oh, oh.

00:02:25.780 And there's chemistry there.

00:02:27.360 You know, Sander's not one of my girlfriends. 0.84

00:02:29.060 If I can't have sex with the person, 0.75

00:02:31.820 could I see myself with someone who's not received her bottom surgery yet? 0.94

00:02:36.280 I'm not sure.

00:02:36.820 Bottom surgery.

00:02:38.840 Gaping hole surgery.

00:02:40.120 You want to put that in a wound? 0.98

00:02:40.840 Yeah.

00:02:41.240 It's breakfast.

00:02:42.200 Fast food.

00:02:43.260 Maybe a donut or two.

00:02:44.280 And then maybe two bagels.

00:02:45.760 I don't judge her by that.

00:02:47.060 I'm just shocked.

00:02:48.340 We're not putting butter on it right now, Jazz.

00:02:49.840 I know.

00:02:50.460 No, you need to chill right now.

00:02:52.160 No, you need to chill.

00:02:53.560 Even when we think we're doing something right,

00:02:55.520 she falls off the wagon.

00:02:56.800 How much butter did you put on the pasta?

00:02:58.740 Put one tablespoon.

00:02:59.580 Did you measure it?

00:03:00.300 Well, it's the pasta on the stage.

00:03:01.520 You're not the better.

00:03:01.700 I do experience fat shaming from my family.

00:03:04.200 It makes me feel really humiliated.

00:03:06.980 Come on.

00:03:07.540 I need you to get up.

00:03:08.560 This isn't going to cut it at Harvard.

00:03:10.060 I'm not going to be here to get you up.

00:03:11.560 At least Greg and I are around.

00:03:12.960 Harvard.

00:03:13.820 They're just going to let Jazz in because it's Jazz, right? 0.51

00:03:18.040 Yeah, of course they did that, right?

00:03:19.540 Oh, man.

00:03:20.340 Okay, so can I just...

00:03:22.380 Remember there was that conspiracy regarding that it was actually a girl

00:03:26.600 and they just did it to like launch it?

00:03:28.540 Remember that?

00:03:29.200 Mm-hmm.

00:03:29.540 Because as a technicality here, I know it's a side issue,

00:03:31.780 but are you telling me that this boy, as it's getting fatter,

00:03:35.940 is also getting larger and larger breast implants? 0.77

00:03:39.580 Well, it could be the estrogen also.

00:03:43.480 Okay.

00:03:44.440 The estrogen is making...

00:03:45.780 Look, I don't know how this would work,

00:03:47.840 but it's just, I just looked at that and it's like,

00:03:50.740 it all kind of swelled up, you know what I mean?

00:03:52.860 Yeah, the whole thing just swelled up.

00:03:53.880 Wouldn't it just be like smaller, like whatever it is,

00:03:56.200 like implants there and then fat around it?

00:03:58.780 I mean, I don't know.

00:03:59.580 When you see younger pictures, it's like it was a boy.

00:04:02.580 Okay.

00:04:03.040 Right?

00:04:03.480 But I don't know.

00:04:04.220 Maybe the conspiracy is real.

00:04:06.640 I don't know.

00:04:07.320 I mean, because they really were launching this...

00:04:09.820 Oh, yeah.

00:04:10.360 Oh, yeah.

00:04:10.960 ...kid.

00:04:11.440 Yep.

00:04:12.300 Oversleeping.

00:04:13.080 What's going to happen when we're not around?

00:04:14.760 You got to really consider whether you could even go up to school. 0.99

00:04:17.040 As long as I get off my lazy ass, then... 1.00

00:04:19.480 You keep making empty promises. 1.00

00:04:21.000 You're like, I got this.

00:04:22.240 I can do this.

00:04:22.960 I'm going to change.

00:04:23.680 I can tell you that it's different now because it's now or never.

00:04:26.880 It's not, though.

00:04:27.260 It hasn't been.

00:04:27.460 It's now or never at this point.

00:04:28.700 Prove it because you're all talk.

00:04:30.320 Oh, my God.

00:04:31.160 Ugh.

00:04:33.080 All right.

00:04:33.520 Anyway, so you see the jazz now.

00:04:36.820 Now, let's look at the Instagram.

00:04:38.280 Yeah, flaunting the scars after having this bottom surgery where they,

00:04:42.780 you know, they do stuff.

00:04:44.980 I'm not sure everything that happened here, but they're cutting it off and inverting it

00:04:50.560 and all of that.

00:04:51.720 Absolutely disgusting.

00:04:53.500 Now, it turns out jazz had severe surgical complications. 0.97

00:04:58.060 This was in Women's Health Mag.

00:05:01.280 They don't get into what all the complications are, but we can kind of guess what those complications 1.00

00:05:06.140 are when trying to chop off your dick and balls or whatever they do and create a vagina. 1.00

00:05:13.900 And now there's another clip I want to play that jazz doesn't feel himself after surgery. 1.00

00:05:20.060 You don't say.

00:05:20.900 Are you feeling like you wanted to start talking about?

00:05:24.840 Are you okay?

00:05:25.520 I'm okay.

00:05:26.320 I'm going to cry.

00:05:29.000 You know I can't get out of my head.

00:05:30.820 I know.

00:05:31.260 No.

00:05:31.540 Listen.

00:05:32.520 It just doesn't stop.

00:05:34.080 It's okay.

00:05:34.580 Give me a hug.

00:05:35.100 It's okay.

00:05:35.560 I know what you're going through.

00:05:36.860 No, it still doesn't stop now.

00:05:38.840 I'm already going back to negative.

00:05:40.340 But the more you're talking about yourself, it gets harder.

00:05:43.180 You're digging in and it's making you put a magnifying glass on what's already difficult

00:05:47.680 as it is.

00:05:48.500 You maimed your body. 0.99

00:05:49.700 I'm the one doing it. 0.98

00:05:53.560 I know.

00:05:54.140 You're your own worst enemy.

00:05:57.200 I feel kind of all over the place and like my mind is very cluttered and not clear.

00:06:02.700 And I really want to have that clarity.

00:06:04.620 I really want to understand myself and be able to read my own soul and what I want.

00:06:10.040 And it's just very challenging.

00:06:11.900 And I think I'm kind of breaking down a little bit and spiraling into negativity.

00:06:16.200 All I want is to be happy and feel like myself.

00:06:19.200 I don't feel like me ever.

00:06:21.180 No, because you were born a boy unless the conspiracy is real.

00:06:25.920 Right. 0.87

00:06:26.540 Now, there's this other clip that's really just disgusting.

00:06:30.040 I mean, I saw I can't find that one particular clip, but Jazz Jennings mom was like, Jazz was

00:06:36.800 talking about, you know, all the problems that he's feeling and everything.

00:06:41.080 And she's like, the mom's all, don't say anything. 0.98

00:06:43.760 You don't want to discourage other people from also chopping their dicks off. 0.93

00:06:47.220 Cover it up. 0.92

00:06:48.020 Anyway.

00:06:48.380 Just a real quick mention.

00:06:50.140 But that's what I want to listen to a clip like that. 0.94

00:06:52.380 Like these people have some severe mental issues. 0.95

00:06:55.960 Yeah. 0.67

00:06:56.280 You know what I mean?

00:06:56.620 And this is the cruelty of saying that, no, your mental issues, depression, your whatever

00:07:02.880 you're suffering from will go away as long as you just pretend to be someone else for a

00:07:07.820 little bit.

00:07:08.140 But of course, what happens as shown is this, that the walls cave in eventually when the

00:07:12.840 high of the newness goes away and then the same old problem rolls around.

00:07:17.060 And that's, of course, why I forget whether it was some of the highest suicide rates that

00:07:21.120 there is.

00:07:21.600 Yeah.

00:07:22.240 Right.

00:07:22.580 And people have argued, too, that the estrogen they take is like a placebo.

00:07:26.620 It's also like a substance abuse.

00:07:28.900 But then that wears off.

00:07:30.460 And then the reality sets in of what they've done to their body.

00:07:34.180 Right.

00:07:34.440 And all these other side effects and the gaping wound in their body. 0.99

00:07:37.500 But yeah, here's a Jazz's mom just reminding Jazz, you need to dilate your vagina. 1.00

00:07:46.000 I got to keep reminding you to do it. 0.99

00:07:48.580 All right.

00:07:49.440 Let's do it.

00:07:51.600 But with her, I'm worried about like her mental well-being and her dilation.

00:07:58.960 The minute she leaves my house, we have a dilation problem. 0.99

00:08:02.460 That is a concern.

00:08:03.740 When you don't have that watchful eye, they tend to go back to old patterns.

00:08:08.720 I have woken Jazz out of a dead sleep and taken the dilator and put the lubrication on

00:08:13.400 it.

00:08:13.580 Gross. 1.00

00:08:14.340 You take this and you put it in your vagina. 1.00

00:08:16.640 If not, I will. 1.00

00:08:17.780 But Jazz is bad, even when I'm home once a day.

00:08:20.220 I will be so mad if she goes away to college and that thing seals up. 1.00

00:08:25.580 I will.

00:08:26.120 Oh my God.

00:08:27.980 And then what, I mean, we're talking about this on the learning channel.

00:08:31.420 Like this is just normal.

00:08:32.420 No, it's, it's, it's, it's just, um, it's a wound in its body, his body.

00:08:38.960 Yeah.

00:08:39.440 And if it does grow back together, then what?

00:08:43.060 Well, I mean, how are they peeing and all that stuff?

00:08:46.140 I don't know.

00:08:46.700 We've seen some disgusting, you know, pictures and videos. 0.99

00:08:49.800 How the, how the sausage is made or how it's unmade, new vaginas, right? 1.00

00:08:54.960 But, uh, yeah, no, I wonder how the body of all just deals with like just having an open 0.99

00:08:59.940 wound.

00:09:00.380 A constant wound. 0.90

00:09:01.900 It's so disgusting.

00:09:03.420 No, I mean, your immune system is, is going to freak out too.

00:09:06.620 Not many people could imagine this like just, I mean, what, 10 years ago that it wasn't

00:09:12.080 this, it existed, but it wasn't front and center in mainstream culture back then.

00:09:17.560 Right.

00:09:17.720 It was in 2013.

00:09:19.480 I, I, it wasn't, it wasn't right now.

00:09:21.420 It's just full on like over the last few years.

00:09:23.620 Put a bookmark in this and imagine the things that they will be pushing on us in 2033, 10

00:09:31.720 years from now.

00:09:32.540 I can't even imagine that. 0.98

00:09:33.740 But, you know, it's going to be some shit with like cyborg parts or machine parts or 0.98

00:09:38.580 brain into, who knows what it's going to be. 0.99

00:09:40.540 But anyway.

00:09:41.400 Yeah.

00:09:41.560 This story did not begin well and it's not going to end well.

00:09:44.980 In fact, now there are cases where there are people have detransitioned and who are suing

00:09:49.700 clinics and hospitals who performed their sex change operation.

00:09:53.440 Here's one of them.

00:09:54.220 Yep.

00:09:54.900 Ollie London.

00:09:55.700 I remember this.

00:09:56.300 Transitioning.

00:09:56.640 What's, what's your reaction to hear Layla's story?

00:09:59.900 Look at.

00:10:00.340 Well, it's absolutely heartbreaking.

00:10:01.680 We're starting to see so many more stories like this of teenagers that have vulnerabilities.

00:10:05.960 They may have mental health struggles and they are being pushed to transition.

00:10:09.620 And what's interesting with this case is this girl that went to this hospital, the Kaiser

00:10:13.380 Pemiat, Chloe Cole, the famous detransitional, also went there and they have the same attorney 0.72

00:10:18.980 who's fantastic, Harmeet Dillon, who is representing them.

00:10:21.640 I've talked to her.

00:10:22.140 And Harmeet has said that doctors told parents in both cases the exact same story.

00:10:26.640 They said, would you rather have a dead daughter or a son?

00:10:30.320 Here's the slogan.

00:10:31.060 Same line.

00:10:31.800 Coercion tactic with parents to say that your kid is going to commit suicide.

00:10:35.380 Yep.

00:10:35.620 And what's interesting here is the same hospital is basically using a script to try and scare

00:10:40.460 parents and push them into transitioning their child.

00:10:43.060 What on earth is going through these doctors' minds when they think it's perfectly normal

00:10:46.520 to manipulate these vulnerable teenagers to coerce their parents?

00:10:50.420 And they're butchers. 1.00

00:10:51.000 And I really hope that Kayla is successful in Chloe Cole because this will really open

00:10:54.900 the doors and change the game.

00:10:56.520 If we can allow these detransitioners to sue these clinics, rebuse, you know, I think that's 1.00

00:11:01.040 really going to...

00:11:02.520 I mean, they're forever destroyed, their bodies, and they don't come back from it.

00:11:08.460 You don't actually detransition and become what you were before.

00:11:12.960 They're lying and saying that you can't.

00:11:13.560 Look at them.

00:11:14.560 They're wrecked.

00:11:15.140 They're ruined.

00:11:16.020 No, they're lying.

00:11:16.240 There's people that are speaking out against that now after they've had these horrific

00:11:19.920 surgeries.

00:11:20.900 Remember the, of course, appropriately, everyone who's in the conspiracy field, the right Tavistock

00:11:25.840 Institute, remember that?

00:11:26.720 Yeah.

00:11:26.940 It was this Tavistock, I guess, part of the hospital there or something like that that

00:11:31.180 were doing a lot of these transitions and stuff.

00:11:33.660 And they try to claim, no, no, it's this very rigorous process and a psychologist and stuff.

00:11:39.040 And then these kids are coming out and basically just saying, no, it was like I was pushed

00:11:42.740 along.

00:11:43.140 It was like a conveyor belt.

00:11:44.460 There was no checks along the way.

00:11:46.240 They did this to me when I was like 14, 15, 16.

00:11:49.120 And then all of a sudden I wake up when I'm 22 and just like, wait a minute, I can never

00:11:52.560 have kids.

00:11:53.480 Or, you know, maybe it's later in life.

00:11:54.920 Horrific. 0.97

00:11:55.380 No wonder why they kill themselves. 0.99

00:11:57.100 Yeah.

00:11:57.480 By the way, I also checked in on Desmond is amazing.

00:12:00.480 The other promoted boy who was pushed as a child drag performer. 0.98

00:12:04.640 Sick. 0.76

00:12:05.020 I know.

00:12:05.760 Remember him?

00:12:06.460 Yeah, there he is.

00:12:07.220 Ooh, he's 15 now.

00:12:08.560 But let's play a little clip to remind people of this promoted drag queen kid. 1.00

00:12:13.700 Desmond, you're one of the youngest and first drag queen slash kids. 1.00

00:12:19.700 And I've heard of the applause.

00:12:22.800 Like it's so special.

00:12:24.760 An achievement.

00:12:25.100 From young adults who look up to you for being who you are.

00:12:27.700 It's a huge style.

00:12:28.860 Who you are for who you are.

00:12:30.400 Some of the notes I've gotten are like that you inspire me very much and I wish I could

00:12:36.800 have had the support that you have.

00:12:38.660 Wow.

00:12:39.220 That's a drag down kid.

00:12:40.540 When I was a child.

00:12:43.900 We saw your parents in a piece that we did and your parents are so supportive of you.

00:12:48.820 But they've also, they've encouraged you to stay and be who you are.

00:12:52.720 Ooh, look at this guy.

00:12:53.880 I mean, he is, I mean, he 100% have molested that kid.

00:12:58.100 He looks guilty there.

00:12:59.200 There is no doubt about that.

00:13:01.200 Absolutely.

00:13:01.540 And this woman is totally clueless and like, yay, look, we're on TV and everyone likes me now. 1.00

00:13:06.980 I wonder if they got money to do this.

00:13:09.160 Who knows?

00:13:10.000 I mean, there's just sick, of course, people as well.

00:13:12.320 But, and then, of course, the customary of that Good Morning America, they're going to 0.71

00:13:15.200 have the black man with the white woman. 1.00

00:13:17.400 Oh, yeah.

00:13:17.760 You know what I mean?

00:13:18.200 It's every time, right?

00:13:19.300 But anyway.

00:13:19.620 And they're applauding.

00:13:20.740 We don't have to see any more.

00:13:21.820 You can see how, very disturbing, very.

00:13:24.580 Yeah.

00:13:24.740 So I checked in on his website.

00:13:26.300 He isn't looking so good at all, right?

00:13:28.980 And then I checked in on his Twitter from his website.

00:13:31.520 I'm blocked.

00:13:32.140 I think you're blocked, too.

00:13:33.740 I was blocked, too.

00:13:35.300 Well, good.

00:13:36.020 They have these auto, you know, kind of things.

00:13:38.340 Here is this.

00:13:40.440 Oh, man.

00:13:41.280 And he's uncensored Twitter. 0.95

00:13:43.560 I still think he's going to be dead at 30 or AIDS by then.

00:13:47.020 15 years old, yeah.

00:13:47.920 Yeah.

00:13:48.260 So he's quit being a child drag performer because he's 15 hours old, right?

00:13:52.620 And he's going into fashion and makeup.

00:13:55.560 I saw it on his Insta, right? 0.90

00:13:57.460 He's going into fashion and makeup where he can be around more pedophiles and abusers.

00:14:02.600 He doesn't look healthy.

00:14:03.540 And this also won't end well.

00:14:05.720 No, definitely not.

00:14:06.760 Let me see if I can find the Instagram here real quick.

00:14:09.120 Yeah, it's a similar picture.

00:14:10.400 Okay.

00:14:10.640 Same thing, but...

00:14:12.080 It's a social media manager, right?

00:14:13.840 Yeah.

00:14:14.440 Gender-affirming care saves lives.

00:14:16.660 No, it actually makes you sterile and more likely to kill you.

00:14:20.660 Well, it's not going to end well.

00:14:22.720 No, no.

00:14:24.380 This November, Covenant House invites you to join the fight to achieve a world where every

00:14:29.200 young person has access to housing, support, healing, and opportunity.

00:14:33.780 Me, on my way to the trans bathroom to take the fattest she-eat of my life. 1.00

00:14:40.340 She-eat. 0.99

00:14:41.780 I thought that was funny.

00:14:45.760 Yeah.

00:14:46.860 That is good.

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Red Ice TV - March 30, 2023

How Are The Trans & Drag Poster Children, Jazz and Desmond Doing Today？

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