How Jewish Activism Transformed The West, Who Benefits From Ukraine-Russia War? - Kevin MacDonald
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In this episode of the show, we talk about a recent paper that was published in the journal Philosophia that failed to explain the role of jewish influence in American immigration policy in the US, and the controversy surrounding it.
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welcome ladies and gentlemen thank you for tuning in red eyes tv i'm henrik always a pleasure seeing
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you thank you for spending some of your time with us today our guest today is kevin mcdonald we are
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going to talk about well at least initially about a recent paper that was published this back in
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january actually but it was by an israeli-based academic journal called filosofia if i pronounced
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that correct and the title of the paper was the default hypothesis fails to explain jewish
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influence and of course if you're not familiar with kevin's work i think most of you are but if
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you're not uh he's behind the occidental observer author of culture of critique and many other titles
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as well uh kevin welcome back to the show good to see you hey it's great to be here henry always a
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pleasure kevin thank you for taking some time uh so let's begin with this then we we talked about this
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offline a little bit and just the kind of absurd nature to this you know and you know this as well
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as anybody when it comes to this topic that the problem is to actually manage to address something
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both in a serious but also like in an academic way that people take seriously because otherwise it
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just goes down the the name calling route uh it goes off into tangents which is irrelevant
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to the academic study that you've made of this topic and of course it is taboo right we we recognize
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that and that is for a specific reason but let me begin with this kevin let me read the abstract
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to the paper here real quick the role of jewish activism in the transformative changes that have
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occurred in the west in recent decades continue to be controversial here i respond to several
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issues putatively related to jewish influence particularly the default hypothesis that jewish
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iq and urban residency explain jewish influence and the role of the jewish community in enacting
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the 1965 immigration law in the united states other issues include jewish ethnocentrism and intermarriage
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and whether diaspora jews are hypocritical in their attitudes on immigration to israel
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versus the united states and it continues the post-world war ii era saw the emergence of a new
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substantially jewish elite in america that exerted influence on a wide range of issues that formed a
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virtual consensus among jewish activists and the organized jewish community including immigration
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civil rights and the secularization of american culture jewish activism in the pro-immigration
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movement involved intellectual movements denying the importance of race in human affairs
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establishing staffing and funding anti-restrictionist organizations recruiting prominent non-jews to
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anti-restrictionist organizations rejecting the ethnic status quo as a goal because of fear of a
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relatively homogenous white majority and leadership in congress and the executive branch so take us
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through this a little bit kevin here of uh the paper came about of course as a reply uh to uh to uh
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kofnas right uh the the other guy i know you guys have been going back and forth on twitter and
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there's been uh debates there uh but he published a paper called the anti-jewish narrative and then you
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did this as a reply to that and it did not be published as i said by this um israeli-based uh academic
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journal philosophia so tell us how that came about and and do you know why they accepted it at least at
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first right and then it was some back and forth yeah yeah kofnas's uh paper came out in like about a
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year ago maybe a little more than a year ago and you know my first thought was because you know the
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first time this happened when he published an article in 2018 and i made these long replies but i
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couldn't get them published anywhere in in the uh the journal that published his article wouldn't
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consider any reply from me um he had an article in colette saying the same stuff this was in 2018
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and again they wouldn't accept a reply from me there was another one like that and um but this time i
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just decided well i'll just ask uh and so i sent an email to philosophia or heavy and pronounce it
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and um they said okay yeah submit submit a reply uh so i worked on this thing and uh it went through
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two rounds of of review it means an academic paper and the common thing for academic papers to send
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them out to so-called peer review or they send them out to other professors and they they give their
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opinions on it and thanks so i went through that they had some criticisms and i answered them and lo and
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behold the editor accepted it uh and so then it got published um on january 1st of this year
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and immediately there was a big controversy that came out and they were going after the editor saying
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how could anybody ever publish this thing and they said they went crazy about it and so right now on the
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website there's this sort of warning label saying that this paper is gotten very controversial and so
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we're going to send it out for further review so they did send that out and i got the reviews
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about two weeks ago and they were extremely hostile all three of them three reviews big surprise
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and they gave me one week to reply and i i begged for a for one more week so i get a little time on this
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uh and so i i sent in my reply uh last week about a week ago and i haven't heard back from them on that
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but uh they were extremely hostile i mean just calling me all kinds of names and i didn't think
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they have substantive criticism i mean i mean the part the problem with the second round of reviews was
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they basically didn't have any sums of objections what they would do is simply rephrase my ideas in a
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very invidious you know negative crazy sounding way of conspiracy theory you know yeah yeah i saw
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how they rephrase it like this is what kevin means or this is what he talks about you know yeah
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and uh and so that i don't know we'll see what they do with it uh yeah but um the jury's out on
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that but anyway they had the paper itself uh koftas has this idea that iq uh jews are smarter than the
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average and so you expect them to be more common among intellectuals and that explains why jews are
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so influential um and i deny that i don't know um first of all uh as i say there that if you look
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at the activism uh in in the in the uh the main issue really in the paper is the 1965 immigration law
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showing because that's the only issue that really would you know defeat the cultural critique it
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would it would really be a problem for me if they could get over that but the other thing is just
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just looking at iq isn't enough because you jews are smart so i have a little section uh on it uh
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beginning oh where is it uh yeah it's like uh the section the first section i guess
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where i talk about uh the default hypothesis and um point out that that jewish iq simply not enough
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that that the for any level of iq they're going to be made they're going to be more white non-jews
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than jews so you take 120 you know even though they're more jews percentage-wise at that jews only
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two and a half three percent of the population so for any given level of iq they're going to be
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more white people at that at that i at that level of iq or you take 130 140 whatever it is
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and you're going to be more white people at that level so you can't explain jewish influence
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simply say the jews are smarter because they're they're not really we we you know they're they're
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as many they're they're more white european americans who uh have equally high iq for any level
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you want to take for iq so that just doesn't explain it um and uh yeah i've got another other
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other points there that that oftentimes that this really angered a lot of the reviewers especially
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in the second round there that i would say that that the jewish movements will recruit non-jews
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as a sort of window dressing you know i use the term window dressing actually in cultural critique in
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chapter three and i have specific examples of that and i was actually an example of that back
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when i was a student they had a big anti-war rally i was on the left i knew all these jewish guys
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roommates and the whole thing uh and they asked me to give a talk on how this guy from a small town
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in wisconsin came to be you know involved in the anti-war movement and i was there to be sort of the goy
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who had his head screwed on right right let's uh become a leftist so anyway um yeah because usually
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i hear this kevin that is like well you know if uh if jews were you know influential and stuff we
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they would be you know the president or you know like kind of topical things like that you know
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but as an example you just break down and then because in our day and age right we're
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we're super obsessed or not us but like the culture in general unfortunately uh about percentages and
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like how many people are represented based on the numbers and stuff like i mean now we're getting an
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overdrive because we're living in an anti-white age so for example despite the fact that uh blacks are
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only about 12 percent of the u.s population in tv media advertisements and stuff they're like way
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overrepresented right but like look at something like biden's cabinet for example right uh jews uh
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severely overrepresented in biden's cabinet one percent of the population but about 50 percent
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uh of the cabinet i think wanted to have have quit but there's some new ones that come come in and
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stuff right that's still like okay well why is there such an overrepresentation then if everything
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is supposed to be uh you know according to how the number pars out the percentages right how do you how
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do you explain just because yeah you don't have a president doesn't mean you don't have
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influential and powerful people in positions of power uh that can uh advocate whether that be for
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uh themselves as a group or whether there's for a specific you know political objective right
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that's right yeah the uh the fact is jews are widely represented in pretty much any position of
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real power in this country um if you look at the media massive overrepresentation you look at the
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academic world and i have another paper on that which i actually referenced in this paper um and
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and what what i argue there is that that jews are uh were especially in the 1960s came to the fore in
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the academic world and they were much to the left of the of the average professor at that time
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but that's exactly the time when uh with the rise of jews in the academic world especially in the
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in the most elite colleges like the ivy league universities harvard yale princeton all of them
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you go the academic world's a top-down institution you know the the the professors at harvard had much
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more influence than professors down the line in fact the so the professors at harvard and other ivy league
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schools they train you know graduate students in these other areas their their phd students go to
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berkeley or university of wisconsin or university of michigan or something like that and then at the
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university of wisconsin those those graduate students go down to the lower level the wisconsin state
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university or california state or whatever and and so it trickles down like that and so academic
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was very hierarchical and so you when you take over the top the top level you sort of got it under
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control and of course that during the 1960s was the time when you established all these ethnic studies
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departments uh when when uh sociology became you know it was liberal but then it became radical
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you know and it started being really influenced by marx uh i was in philosophy you could see the
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the transition at the time i i was an undergraduate in philosophy and i went to graduate school in
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philosophy and um i actually talk about uh well i talked about that in an article i wrote that that
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you know you could see the transformation of the department that almost all the the hires of the
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the young professors that were hired were jews in the term of the department of jewish and um it was uh
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really an interesting sociological thing and then i'll just never forget watching one of these older
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you know non-jewish guys who just retired you know and he's at the medical center and probably
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you know not in good health and everything and i just sort of felt sorry but they did was like the
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the changing of the guard right yeah now you had these young jews and they were all on the left and
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they were radical and they were you know they came from from the best institutions just like i was
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saying you know if you're an oxford phd you go to the university of wisconsin uh you know as you
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could be a professor or harvard you know and that kind of thing yeah exactly so so if you can
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summarize for us how you think what what you think is possible how how does that how does that work
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right what happened there if you can you boil that down for newcomers to your work and stuff like
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that like that would just i i guess get to the essence both of your paper of course but also
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kind of your the main study that you've done over the years right so how do we how do we explain it
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kevin how do you explain sorry basically how do we explain that so many jews ended up in the position
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that they did right they it's it's obviously uh down to the thing of of ethnic interest right that
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they have a group interest here which is about advancing their own group and their own interest of
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the group right that's right i mean and the the whole thesis of culture critique is that you know
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iq is important and they they are smarter you know on average but only on average and again if you look
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at the numbers um they're far more non-jews than jews and an iq save over 140 i came up like seven to
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one so you can't explain this to jewish uh by by iq but you can certainly start to explain it with
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ethnic networking and um that what that means is that you you promote other jews and you you cite
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them you you view them as leaders and gurus uh so one of my the ideas in a culture critique is is
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what i call the the uh guru phenomenon where you have a guru like freud or franz boas or horkheimer
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or the frankfurt school um these people were were you know central figures that were looked up to
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and idolized trotsky's a good example and and they were um uh you know then seen as by by by other
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jewish intellectuals or political activists as they would sort of gather around and and soak up his
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wisdom uh and so there was a all this mutual um reinforcement mutual ethnic networking mutual
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uh patting on the back right yeah and uh mutual hiring you know so you could see that in wisconsin
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you know once once the jews got in there they started hiring their own people and uh pretty soon
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the whole department's transformed and um that that that sort of writ large is what happened i think
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to the merit the academic establishment but then when it comes to media it's a little different because
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there so much of it is involves ownership but even even in 1930s jews had a very disproportionate
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ownership of ownership of the media you know the uh new york times uh the uh nbc uh broadcasting and
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uh cbs then became jewish and all the big networks so the abc all you know so that by the 1950s i
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mentioned this in the paper by the 1950s all the the big all the television networks when i grew up
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where three networks exactly we didn't have cable or any of that stuff all three were owned by jews
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and there was a big uh push after world war ii uh by frankfurt school people there's a great paper
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by andrew joyce about this i mean something i overlooked pretty much but uh he got into how
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these these jewish activists that were associated with the frankfurt school i you know definitely
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recognize their names but they what they got into was really influencing the media and the basic
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message was you know race does not exist it was the whole boss in anthropology that race does not
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exist that the worst thing in the world is white people who are ethnocentric and if you are ethnocentric
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it's a sign of some kind of pathology you know you had bad parent-child relationships you are
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inadequate personality personality wise you're envious of other people or there are all kinds of
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explanations that these people came up with uh and they're all nonsense they're not based on any kind
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of data really um but they you know they satisfy jewish interests and the entire jewish community was much
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to the left and even you know what whatever occupation you know jewish businessmen tend not to be
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as radical as jewish sociology professors or something but they are to the left of non-jewish business
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people and there's a big push now for for your sort of social responsibility in business and these
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you know people like um uh the guy you know i guess named larry fink from blackstone black rock yeah
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and and and um mark benioff salesforce they're like big big push for social responsibility
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uh in business and so you know the the fact is now i mean when i was growing up businesses tend to be
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conservative to the right of of the people as a whole but business has really been another area
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that's been taken over by the left and uh so your big corporations coca-cola all is but all the big
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internet companies social media uh all on the left um you know walt disney was when i was growing up
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was uh was run by walt disney and he was very conservative he was probably an anti-semite
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because because the jews tried to take away his his company many times right yeah but after he died
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but guess what they ended up with it uh and it's been run by jews for a long time
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and you know it's very liberal and now you look at you at the movies and stuff that disney puts out
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they've you know they have some for children and some for adults and and all that but even even the
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the uh the child the movie the cartoons directed at children are very much on the left when it comes to
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race and white privilege and you know centering black people and all that kind of stuff so uh yeah our
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world's been transformed and we have to understand that and and uh and what really gets me is that
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some of my confidence comes along and oh it's like you you know and and and and that sort of explains it
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i heard other people say oh it's modernism it's modernism oh yeah right i mean the world's been
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into a modernist state where we have industrial cars you know pretty advanced technology even by say say
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1940 when when uh you you had fascism in europe and and you had a very different culture in america
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and very different uh attitudes i mean you have to remember america did pass the 1924 immigration law
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that was very much biased towards northwestern europe was supposed to reflect the population the
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percentage of the population as they existed in 1920 at first and then went down to 1890 so you know
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when you think about the population united states in 1890 it was overwhelmingly northern european yeah
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they did not want you know they certainly there was some concern about italian immigrants because they
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were different they tended to come from the south of italy and that's where you see the the mafia and all
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this sort of familism you know that that that uh really is not good and it's very different from northern european
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that's a big thesis in my book on on on western family structure and everything um but the big problem
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really was was eastern european jews they came from poland and other areas in eastern europe and uh they
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were they were they were radicals they they were either especially you know marxists you know when the
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soviet union was established in 1917 they were entirely on board you know i mean almost the entire american
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jewish community was entirely on board with the with the balsamic revolution i mean it's no no surprise that
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the atrocities the horrible the mass murders and torture and everything else that happened in the
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first decades of the soviet union was completely covered up in the american media these people had
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never heard about it it was it was uh covered up and and and the far left continued with the jewish
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community uh if you look at the 1950s you know i grew up in the 1950s and you know you think of it as
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this sort of golden age and it sort of was for me growing up because it was a really nice um peaceful
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it seemed but under the surface there was this massive cultural battle going on and uh you know
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joel mccarthy uh famously you know holding these hearings in washington uh he was a senator from wisconsin
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20 miles down the road from where i live and uh he had these hearings to expose uh the communists
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in the state department and other areas of government and a high percentage of the people
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he brought before his committee were jews and the american jewish community was very uptight about it
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because they were so overrepresented uh and so there was you know at that time the american jewish
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community was all in favor of free speech well things have changed since then um and now the american
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jewish community is entirely on on the board with censorship uh anything they don't like which
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means anything like sorts of things that we would look yeah it's completely changed the the uh attitudes
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in the environment and again it was just you know free speech and all that it was just juices used as
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long as they could take control and dominate then it's like ah it's not democracy is not so great anymore
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we have to do all these things you know there are no principles here no it's just interest it's
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because it's about it's about winning it's not about being principled no it's about their interests
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and nothing more and people don't get that i think a lot of white people really are principled
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and you see these conservatives they're principled to a fault yeah you know they they have principles of
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you know uh democracy here all these things that they modeled all the time and they don't seem to
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care uh about the the consequences you know in the real world like immigration they don't seem to care
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or be aware that this is going to submerge the republican party so there could be no hope for
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real conservatism in the future anything like it was you know 50 years ago uh with this immigration
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and uh but they don't care it's like a principle uh and and they uh or or else it's just prophets
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but yeah these jewish organizations have no principles and it's really if you look at jewish
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ethics it's it's the same sort of thing it's whatever's good for jews there are no general
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principles that apply both to jews and non-jews despite what you read on wikipedia by the way they have a
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they have a page on jewish ethics and it's like fantasy land if you look at actual jewish writing
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on ethics over the centuries there's a big difference if you killed if a jew killed a goy
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or a non-jew versus killing a jew or stole from a non-jew versus a jew a slave who was a jew
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versus a not anything like that yeah so kevin before we continue there i want to sneak in this real
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quick because it was it's a perfect uh actually the perfect timing uh the fact that you brought
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up black rock and i want to play a clip actually with larry fink here isn't uh now too but you
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talked basically about the neoliberal capitalist world right how they've joined forces with all the
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you know this this this um what do you call it again social justice right that's the boiled down
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term they use for it social justice we could call it anti-white we you know we know what's going on but
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you know it's a black rock right what it's it's literally they're passing the mark now they're
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they're the first company in the history of the world that's going to oversee or manage i think
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about 10 trillion dollars right they're like an asset management company they they're holding
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company right they handle other people's but i saw an interesting clip the other day too by the way
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apparently the government hires them for for regulation they have insight into specific information
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that other banks and financial services don't have their they they came out of nowhere and it
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used to be goldman sachs but black rock just kind of surpassed them all of a sudden like they came out
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of nowhere at least as far as i'm concerned right but showing a screenshot here right 10 black rock
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10 million dollars to support the black lives matter movement right of course amazon did the same
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goldman sachs right and you have uh much more of some of the other companies as well but this is so this is
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not strange right here's even a a screenshot from what black rock had on their website i believe
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right social impact this is just what you mentioned here in february we established the black rock
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foundation to augment our efforts to promote a more inclusive and sustainable economy through our focus
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on financial security for vulnerable communities we aim to bring visibility and increased resources to
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support the upward mobility of black and latinx communities uh our 10 million dollar plan include
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and then they went on from there right but isn't this fascinating how this capitalist corporation all of
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a sudden joins forces with the likes of not only the world economic forum but the united nations
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sustainable development goals right some people call this agenda 2030 but there's a number of names right
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but something have you heard of esg uh equity social no sorry environment social and governance it's
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this new kind of stakeholder capitalist system and it looks like heaven that doesn't matter what big
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company you go to they're all the board on this and and and it seems even at some points they're
00:27:42.120
perfectly willing to put the aspect of profit to the side to start inflicting change in a direction uh
00:27:50.040
which i i think a lot of people wouldn't agree to but again keep in mind these are unelected people
00:27:54.040
right they're just they're they're taking their massive wealth and power and influence and just
00:27:58.760
steamrolling over if you will the democratic process right yeah yeah and you know besides
00:28:04.760
donating money they can punish companies that don't go along you can imagine a company holds out
00:28:11.320
pretty soon you know blackrock uh divests from some of their they got all these uh investment funds
00:28:18.040
loans and um you know they they might have a harder time on wall street getting loans and uh stock
00:28:25.400
offerings and all kinds of things there's supply lines uh people might stop using them you know i mean
00:28:33.800
because i think that's what's happened here is that you've had a critical mass and now it's moving
00:28:39.800
fast forward um that uh getting putting incredible amounts of money and so much corruption i mean
00:28:48.680
they've exposed a number of these uh black lives matter people uh taking money and just nobody knows
00:28:55.320
where the money went you know it's like six millions and millions of dollars four or five houses right in
00:29:01.240
white neighborhoods of course they're buying houses right they're just squandering the money or you
00:29:07.320
know running with it or whatever right but listen to this listen to this clip here here's uh here's
00:29:11.080
larry fink behaviors are going to have to change and this is one thing we're going to we're asking
00:29:14.840
companies you have to force behaviors and at blackrock we are forcing behaviors there you go forcing
00:29:22.760
be we have to force behavior wonder what that means and i mean they're buying they're gobbling up
00:29:27.880
everything if you look at basically any major corporation today there's two uh i think they're
00:29:33.400
just called holding companies right it's blackrock is usually number one on that list and it doesn't
00:29:38.120
matter if it's pepsi or coca-cola or whether it's pfizer or moderna right they're up there and then it's uh
00:29:44.040
uh vanguard number two and then usually number three might be state street uh or you get uh what's his
00:29:51.000
name again war is a warren buffett's um uh i forget what his uh firm is called now but it's usually those
00:29:57.720
four right but they my point is here they just have massive influence over the the whole business
00:30:04.360
sector and the whole capitalist neoliberal system you know what they do is they buy up uh large blocks
00:30:10.520
of stock in a particular company then they have voting rights and then they can go to the shareholders
00:30:16.280
meeting and and they can put pressure any any activist investor that has a significant uh stake in
00:30:23.560
a company can be heard i mean you don't have to have 50 percent even a few percent is enough
00:30:30.840
to to make you heard i mean carl icon for example uh famously is an activist investor you'll you'll buy
00:30:38.440
a whole lot of stock and say and then you'll say like we got to get rid of this management team or we
00:30:42.680
have you know you have a lot of power and blackrock has huge resources they can do this and um you know so
00:30:51.080
if a company is not on board with this stuff they better get on board and you know this is as uh
00:30:58.600
fink was saying you know they don't have any problems with coercion uh you know it's almost
00:31:04.520
like they would the really ideal model is a chinese model where you have top-down total government
00:31:11.320
control surveillance everywhere uh and and you but you do have a wealthy oligarchic elite and i really
00:31:19.720
think that's what they're aiming for uh an oligarchic globalist elite that um is able to uh establish
00:31:28.200
a surveillance state and uh just radically curtail the freedoms of ordinary people yes absolutely it's
00:31:37.080
the the esg thing and again it's like it's kind of interchangeable you know you have the bank of
00:31:41.640
international settlements to a certain degree pushing this you have the world economic forum
00:31:45.800
uh and then of course you have um other you know united nations as i mentioned the sustainable
00:31:50.680
development goals or agenda 2030 right but it's kind of like a it's like a social credit scores
00:31:56.360
for the business world and you know what i think the root of this is i think the root of it is that
00:32:01.880
as they previously chose the democratic you know method or whatever you want to call that that strategy
00:32:07.160
right because i think they had they to a certain extent they had control of information they could
00:32:11.400
manipulate i mean what does it matter if you have a democracy if everyone is just let around the nose
00:32:15.480
by you know television or whatever it doesn't it doesn't matter right but i think the reality is
00:32:20.360
they kind of lost this control at some point and things started moving and happening and trump was
00:32:24.920
a big you know indicator of this but you had salvin in italy you had orban in hungary you had uh
00:32:29.320
you know there's a couple of parties like this in germany in holland in uh netherlands in sweden of
00:32:33.720
course right and i think they slowly began to realize we can't count on these people to do our bidding
00:32:39.800
we we we have to start going to the business world we have to start getting these massive you know ceos aboard
00:32:45.800
and we have to build like a again the the klar schwab the world economic forum guy talks about
00:32:50.600
stakeholder capitalism and it's this kind of integrated system where basically every company
00:32:55.320
is interdependent on each other and they're and they're signed up to this right through the
00:32:59.320
un-sustained sustainable development goals or the esgs under the same kind of globalist institution
00:33:04.600
they're saying if you don't have you know if you don't have enough uh non-white people working for
00:33:09.880
you you're going to get a lower score and you're going to you're not going to be part of that uh
00:33:13.560
grid grid work of all the other corporations you can go to them and you know for services or from
00:33:19.080
materials so it's like the same they're freezing out those who are refusing to comply that's what i
00:33:25.160
think that's what's going to be yeah absolutely esg environmental social and governments right
00:33:31.160
or governance um under environment we know where that's going climate change strategy biodiversity
00:33:37.720
uh carbon intensity which of course is the carbon kind of the carbon has become an enemy now all of
00:33:43.240
a sudden they're going to use that as a kind of a value point or or a currency it seems like in the
00:33:47.640
future and then on the social it says equal opportunities uh freedom of association yeah i wish
00:33:54.120
health and safety human rights customers production blah blah child labor but under that
00:33:58.040
boundaries also like diversity equity what are you doing to make sure that there's not too many
00:34:03.320
white people in your corporation and things like that so it's like a whole neoliberal capitalist way
00:34:08.920
of enforcing these very very radical um you know left-wing ideas that you've been talking about
00:34:14.360
for such a long time but but utilizing this in the business world it's a completely new strategy
00:34:18.360
in a way isn't it yeah and i i i certainly resonate with what you said before that the trump and the
00:34:24.600
populist uh parties is like in in hungary um just scared the hell out of these people they just
00:34:33.480
that was a total wake-up call uh because trump was very popular i mean i might trump screwed up in a lot
00:34:40.120
of ways but he was also under attack his entire presidency like nowhere the president has ever been
00:34:46.840
and and and there's never been such a incredible wall-to-wall full court press assault on a
00:34:54.760
president as they did they tried to impeach him repeatedly and and uh you know one one scandal
00:35:02.760
hoax actually after another it was an amazing phenomenon so yeah they they are terror they want
00:35:09.400
they want to seal the deal and i think code was the best thing that ever happened to them because they
00:35:14.200
managed to change all the voting laws and everything else and um get fear into the hearts of everyone
00:35:22.280
and now you know the war in ukraine is one crisis after another yeah we'll see yeah exactly i guess we
00:35:29.320
can segue over to that a little bit it's pretty crazy but it's like putin have actually given these
00:35:33.320
people everything they want in a way they've they've managed to i mean nato has a new purpose now they're
00:35:38.920
kind of like for 70 years what would they sure they were expanding but it's like what do you need them
00:35:42.680
for what are they doing right even look trump right didn't he say we need not to pay so much money to
00:35:48.360
nato and he i guess forced other countries to pay you know unfortunately european ones which is you
00:35:53.320
know whatever but you know the point the point stands right what what are we doing here and even
00:35:57.480
here's a here's a globalist from sweden here called built you might remember him who was the head of
00:36:01.880
the moderate moderate party right our conservatives for a while he's been hanging around on the
00:36:05.720
bilderberg meetings he's going to all these big globalist meetings and stuff and he said
00:36:09.640
this on twitter yesterday actually this earlier today then it's going to be a unique summit of
00:36:15.080
summits in brussel today and that's where biden is currently right now he's speaking there and
00:36:19.720
many other people right it says it's it's a nato summit an eu summit and a g7 summit i think that's
00:36:26.120
a first when it comes to these things president putin here's the kicker right has managed to bring
00:36:31.320
the democratic world together in a unique way with his aggression in other words putin is giving them
00:36:37.960
exactly what they want kevin isn't that fascinating now they're they've never um putin has justified
00:36:44.760
their existence all these groups in a way right the fact is that the the nato was was an anachronism
00:36:51.400
after 1991 they really didn't need it anymore and i just tweeted this saying there's uh an article that
00:36:58.040
that putin gave interviews in in 2000 the end of 2000 2000 early 2001 saying uh that he would like to
00:37:05.720
to join nato uh and and he he said that russia's part of the west and all that well that was rebuffed
00:37:13.160
and and you could see what that this american foreign policy established who never gave up
00:37:18.920
that hostility and uh you know when putin came in and got rid of those oligarchs um that uh that was and
00:37:28.680
uh he he took over real control whereas yeltsin was completely under the thumb of these oligarchs who
00:37:37.320
ran the media and really ran russia and just stole all the wealth and became billionaires and all that
00:37:46.120
it was uh it was horrible and then you know they invited ukraine to be part that they kept expanding and
00:37:53.480
expanding every time it happened russia would object and then they said that ukraine could be
00:37:59.320
part of all right on the border big country and uh 2014 with the meidan uh uprising totally cia
00:38:11.960
operation neocons the national endowment for democracy which is a neocon organization victorian
00:38:19.400
newland famously and and uh of course they're they're freaked out about that yeah change the
00:38:26.120
government you had a government that was de facto was de facto neutral it wasn't hostile to the west
00:38:32.280
wasn't hostile to russia and they were doing the right thing but then this so it's just horrible what's
00:38:41.000
happening here and they're giving him uh this this is it fits perfectly you know into the bigger picture
00:38:47.080
and we'll we'll talk more a little bit later here but like what some of the consequences is
00:38:50.840
is here and of course now you know uh again so-called conspiracy theorists to whatever you
00:38:55.960
say this is talked about this a while ago even even as a result of the covet measures right but now
00:39:01.480
uh the upper elites are beginning to address these issues openly as well even biden today in fact talked
00:39:06.440
about food shortages as a consequence of the ukraine russia war it's of course very convenient as i said
00:39:11.720
because the ball has on this have been rolling for a long time but there are there is an exacerbated
00:39:16.440
problem as something i think will come down the pipes but before we get in there you tweeted out
00:39:22.040
an article as well and i want to try to get to this because a lot of people are going back and forth and
00:39:26.360
i'm not sure what what's going on in russia i'm not sure what's going on with putin is he is he controlled
00:39:31.800
by some of the ex some of the some of the oligarchs that wasn't kicked out is he uh is he critical
00:39:38.520
overall of uh of these oligarchs of jewish influence what's going i'm i'm reading both things at the
00:39:43.880
the same time and we can show a couple of things that shows it but you tweeted out this one from
00:39:47.480
tablet magazine the fate of putin's jewish oligarchs right because back in as you said
00:39:52.120
when he took initially took control there was a number of them that were kicked out right we're
00:39:56.440
talking about boris berzovsky he ended up dying in london right but he was like you know going between
00:40:00.760
tel aviv and and london and basically spent most of his fortune and the rest of his life trying to
00:40:05.560
undermine uh putin they've he together with people like alex goldfarb they sponsored the orange
00:40:11.480
revolution in ukraine right coup coup attempt after coup attempt all these things um you had
00:40:17.560
other people too abrahamovich you had what is it kordorovsky i think he was in jail for for some time
00:40:23.160
right uh are there some are there some others um kevin as well that you're aware of that are still there
00:40:30.120
now that um there are there are this um michael fridman for one uh he's jewish but i think what
00:40:39.160
happened here is that when putin came in he wanted to consolidate power he didn't want to be controlled
00:40:45.640
by these oligarchs and there's a big difference there so he got rid of uh kordorovsky because he was big
00:40:52.840
time involved in politics got rid of uh guzinski who was had a big uh position in in russian media
00:41:01.160
and was very pro yeltsin and all that and you know resist these billionaires were not apolitical they
00:41:07.160
were totally involved in russian politics and you know it was heady it was very much like what we have
00:41:13.960
in this country where the media is on one side and pushing certain things and we can call it a democracy
00:41:20.040
but they're giving us some messages and and filtering it and everything uh and i i really
00:41:25.160
do believe that that putin uh consolidated power and that the tablet article is quite right it fits
00:41:31.320
right well also with an article we posted on oxford observer simultaneously almost by this guy uh rollo
00:41:40.040
slavsky who lives in eastern europe and is a new writer for us but he said the same thing that that putin
00:41:47.160
is in control in russia and it's quite the opposite of what's going on in ukraine where zelinski is
00:41:53.320
bought and paid for by this jewish oligarch kolomoisky uh and he's you know zelinski's got millions of
00:42:01.960
dollars from this guy zelinski was a tv actor he was a comedian and he was nothing and so then all of
00:42:09.160
a sudden this kolomoisky guy and there he is um he uh puts him in a tv show where he's a president
00:42:18.280
and servant of the people that was the title of the show yeah and he run and he runs for uh for
00:42:24.840
president again an anti-corruption campaign if you can believe it yeah kolomoisky is so corrupt it's
00:42:31.800
unreal he was involved he was involved in the same gas company that hunter biden got all his money for
00:42:39.240
him he's got uh operations in miami and all this stuff uh offshore accounts uh complete sleazeball
00:42:47.560
and of course he's jewish um and uh yes so so president zelinski just bought and paid for he's
00:42:56.600
his boy you can never say that about putin putin runs russia and anybody uh including an oligarch
00:43:04.520
who gets on the wrong side of him better watch out he he runs the place and uh you can say well it's not
00:43:11.640
a democracy yeah it's not but neither is ukraine really you know it's it's a it's an oligarchy
00:43:18.200
and it's run by uh by these oligarchs and and ukraine has a reputation as being the most corrupt
00:43:26.520
country in europe yeah and it still is and uh thanks to the people meddling in it too right
00:43:33.800
yeah and democracy yes let's just abolish all political parties that are opposed to him
00:43:39.480
consolidated the media into one one big media that they have one message yep that's democracy yep
00:43:47.240
freedom they're fighting for over there they're fighting for their freedom right and then they've
00:43:51.880
had like some of the most uh i think even now these are you know kind of maybe not side issues
00:43:56.760
but i just saw the other here in passing that it's like the covet thing have been crazy too in ukraine
00:44:01.960
it's almost like the u.s is using the ukraine as a as a playground as a testing ground right
00:44:06.520
the whole thing with the biolabs right there is a in-depth research on that alone but those are mostly
00:44:11.640
you know there were pentagon uh funded at least some of some of them were even operated they were operated
00:44:16.280
by u.s diplomats and stuff they did the same thing in georgia right all this crazy stuff but it's been
00:44:21.320
so corrupt there and and there's so many american you know that that have nestled their way in there
00:44:27.640
and they're using it as kind of like a slush fund i guess for the lack of a better term right look at
00:44:31.560
hunter biden right he's he gets in there he gets on the board of burisma right he's like 85 000 a
00:44:36.760
month or whatever the hell it was for literally doing nothing and and it's it gets worse right all these
00:44:42.200
companies are in there and they're meddling uh and they're and they're ensuring kind of that ukraine
00:44:47.880
never really gets up on its feet and and sorts things out do you see what i'm saying yeah and so
00:44:53.800
but then joe biden goes over to ukraine and says that that if if they don't get to stop this
00:44:59.640
prosecution this investigation investigation of this uh gas company uh he'll double withhold a billion
00:45:08.680
dollars in aid you know so biden is up to his eyeballs in this corruption and it's a it's a
00:45:15.960
possibility that the fact that that the new york times finally publicized this that that those emails
00:45:22.280
and the the stuff on that laptop are is authentic you know you wonder what what's going on here maybe
00:45:29.320
they understand that that you know biden isn't working he's very unpopular but i don't know i don't
00:45:34.840
know what we're going to do about kamala harris or something the weakest vice president in history
00:45:40.200
and everybody says she's just doing a horrible job but there was an article we had on occidental
00:45:45.480
observer right around the same time that article from tablet by by robert slovsky and he said he
00:45:51.080
points out this recent bloomberg article which is jewish oligarch but mikhail fridman lamenting the
00:45:57.320
fact that sanctions were imposed on him and his friends and you know with the biden sanctions that's
00:46:02.120
one of the recent things they did and monitor him pleading for washington to relent arguing that
00:46:07.720
neither he nor his friends had any real polar power over putin without information including indicating
00:46:13.640
anything to the anything to the contrary we may as well take his words at face value i believe that
00:46:19.560
yeah the position is strong and consolidated and uh nobody can get really get in his way and if you do
00:46:26.440
you know you're gonna be um you know you're gonna be in trouble and he'll probably confiscate your
00:46:32.280
assets he doesn't mind jews being rich i'll you know be pretty wealthy but he doesn't want to be
00:46:38.120
messing in politics beyond unless they agree with him yeah that's what i've heard too right and and
00:46:43.240
again that's why i'm getting like conflicting information and maybe it's uh again maybe we're
00:46:49.000
looking at this from a different view than he does obviously he's a politician he knows how to play
00:46:53.160
politics to a certain extent he's at times despite the westwood denies of course but he's he's diplomatic
00:46:58.600
to a certain extent and as you said it's not that he's like i you know out to get jews or something
00:47:04.280
like i mean obviously not right i mean there's people in there and again let's show let's show a couple
00:47:08.200
of headlines as a way to kind of um like get that point of view of like kind of contradiction right
00:47:14.520
uh he said things like this right this is article a while ago right putin first soviet government was
00:47:19.000
mostly jewish uh you know kind of whoops what what is that right there's other articles like this
00:47:24.120
where and of course the west would say well let's look at how anti-semitic putin is he's literally
00:47:27.400
hitler at putin putin jokes about jews and money during visit to crimea he said um he cracked a joke
00:47:34.920
about jews and money visiting to crimea i said oh so the so the jews have uh problems with finances
00:47:41.240
he answered to laughter such a thing could only happen in crimea right there's things like that
00:47:45.240
which is kind of it's more funny right but the the west takes this very seriously and this is a
00:47:49.880
you know kind of a big problem and big issue but then at the same time people are like maybe looking
00:47:54.120
to putin or something for like oh he's uh you know he's he's ensuring that there's no um
00:48:00.360
jewish ethnic interest in the country that's obviously not you know correct either here is
00:48:04.280
another compilation of some headlines that people had right uh how he's targeting actually he's
00:48:09.560
targeting nationalist groups he's going after you know the so-called far right in russia right they're
00:48:13.960
a very multicultural country i mean they have they have a lot of different ethnic groups they're a
00:48:17.960
federation they're very proud of that fact right uh here's al jazeera the death of the russian far
00:48:23.480
right uh the jerusalem post putin uh not remotely anti-semitics as russia's chief rabbi uh the
00:48:29.880
jewish jailer forged at holocaust deniers uh in deniers in russia now face five years in prison
00:48:34.520
jerusalem post at putin's side an army of jewish billionaires and that's from uh 2012 so not that long
00:48:42.280
ago 10 years ago uh and then lauder of course russia's fight against anti-semitism isn't just
00:48:46.600
good for jews it's good for russia as well and then world net day looks as the day putin prayed
00:48:51.480
for rebuilding the temple right so it's not it's not as uh squared away and as easily like just say oh
00:48:58.840
it's this or that as you said but it seems to be and i guess i'm trying to be as as just charitable and
00:49:06.360
genuine as like a accurate i guess that's the best term as possible and it's like he's as i said he's
00:49:12.360
seem to be very proud of his multicultural you know federation of sorts i've heard him mention
00:49:16.920
that many times in talks and you know we're so any and he thinks he's you know fighting you know
00:49:21.240
nazism in ukraine and of course you have you have ass of that so you know i'm not trying to look down
00:49:25.480
on that but it's obviously not the biggest problem if you have washington sponsoring everything right
00:49:29.800
the liberal world order of the west sponsoring you that your problem is not nazis they hunt nazis in
00:49:35.400
the west so they're not nazis uh taking over everything and running the show in ukraine but uh
00:49:40.920
no but but my point is he's generally seems like unless as long as you don't like are engaging in
00:49:46.920
like criminal behavior that undermines the russian federation he seems to be somewhat okay
00:49:52.040
doesn't care what ethnic group it is that's what i'm getting to what do you think of this kevin
00:49:55.960
well um again i think it's hard to really get an inside view of all that um again this writer
00:50:03.640
rollo slavsky uh wrote has written now well i've posted already six articles of his he's got one
00:50:10.600
called the state of opposition nationalist politics in russia and basically what he says is that things
00:50:15.640
have been changing recently and that and that um putin that really the the uh nationalist right
00:50:23.720
doesn't really you know have much of a conflict now with putin that putin has changed in their
00:50:30.040
direction enough to uh to status to mollify them um so i thought this is very interesting i i can't
00:50:39.000
really you know i vouch that this is absolute truth but this guy really seems to uh uh understand
00:50:49.080
what's going on on the ground in russia i understand that in the past these russian nationalists said they
00:50:54.360
have a big problem with putin but um that uh that is not so much uh the case anymore if at all
00:51:03.400
no um exactly i'm trying to find that article as well but it's it's a very interesting dynamic and
00:51:08.120
of course there's big fights in the west over this do you take the ukrainian side you take the russian
00:51:12.920
side and some people say oh putin is great russia is going to fix everything and i don't believe in
00:51:17.080
that and then at the same time it's like i i don't want anything bad to happen to ukraine or ukrainians
00:51:22.760
obviously not but but it's clear to me at this point that they're being used as a uh as cannon
00:51:28.680
fodder in this in this battle and i mean even liam panetta the other day the former i think he's
00:51:32.360
ex-cia right he just literally said like whatever people say this is a proxy war you have massive
00:51:37.640
amounts of funds biden gave them uh 15 billion the other day one billion on that was arms weapons all
00:51:44.440
kinds of things right you have foreign mercenaries coming to the country encouraged to come to the
00:51:49.800
country and just as massive hypnosis campaign essentially mind control campaign in the west
00:51:55.800
um to to just no matter what like ukraine number one that's it you know like every every liberal and
00:52:02.840
left-wing lunatic in the west now is like super gung-ho about like you know our people in ukraine
00:52:08.760
the people in ukraine and their borders and their freedom and their nationalism it's quite something
00:52:13.400
isn't it it's pathetic yeah i really do that's why i i really hope russia uh wins this at least gets a
00:52:22.440
good salmon uh where they uh are able to uh insist that ukraine not be part of nato that and and at
00:52:30.760
least get to donbass and crimea formalized um because i i really do think that this is the the globalist
00:52:38.840
elites on one side uh and pushing for for ukraine and uh against really russia and china together now
00:52:49.000
uh you know russia's been i mean china's been backing russia and uh i think it's a interesting sign that
00:52:56.840
they see they don't want to you know that this western hegemony that that has been going on since world
00:53:03.400
war ii um as well and really long before that but um i think that they have decided that you know they
00:53:13.000
they want you know a bipolar world here at least where you have other sort of centers of power and
00:53:21.320
i think that's why the west is putting up such a strong fight they see this as as armageddon here
00:53:26.200
they don't want to lose this because if they do you know you're not it's going to be a huge setback
00:53:32.200
for globalism people some people have already said that it's a huge setback for globalism anyway
00:53:36.680
but i i think if if uh putin really comes out of this uh looking good and he may well uh if he gets
00:53:45.640
what he wants i do think that that globalism would take a huge hit that this that this was uh this is
00:53:52.680
an expression of russian nationalism it's an it's a rejection of of the west and it's uh really a
00:53:59.720
a wake-up call that this is not going to be a unipolar world anymore i mean that's what happened
00:54:05.400
in 1991 when the soviet union uh died basically immediately these neocons united said said look
00:54:13.720
unipolar world we are the boss we can run things so what'd you have war after war in the middle east and
00:54:21.240
everywhere else um the russian the russian embassies in the uk and ukraine everywhere else they were
00:54:28.760
tweeting this stuff today where uh you had uh um the pictures of american presidents like clinton
00:54:37.880
the bush senior bush bush jr uh and and all that and then not trump by the way but obama was in there
00:54:46.200
and then saying you know five wars and six million dead and all that and and all in the name of
00:54:53.800
democracy and non-interventionism uh it's a joke uh so uh that's the russian point of view that that
00:55:02.680
america has been a great in you know intervening all over the place yeah having havoc and death and
00:55:11.160
destruction think what happened to iraq i mean forget about american casualties which were you
00:55:17.240
know large thousands but iraqis lost hundreds of thousands of that millions of people here yeah
00:55:24.440
madeline albright who just passed away right the former u.s secretary of state said uh remember that
00:55:28.200
clip from uh 60 minutes it's worth it 500 500 000 iraqi kids and and look at the waves of migration
00:55:35.880
that's come in the wake of these conflicts in the middle east and north africa too yeah a good example
00:55:41.800
is is um qaddafi with libya yeah hillary clinton is cackling about how wonderful that was and uh we
00:55:50.200
came he died that kind of thing yeah well when when you know the result is is total political chaos in
00:55:56.760
libya you have these warring factions i don't think they've solved it yet and then you've got migration
00:56:01.800
coming up from africa that libya used to stop they don't want to do it anymore so they got slave
00:56:06.680
markets and the whole crazy thing uh qaddafi was was good in a lot of ways and and uh it was crazy
00:56:13.960
for nato at the behest of hillary clinton was really the prime mover that uh but that's it that's it you
00:56:22.200
know these these liberals are you know you think of liberals all not not anti-war people they're not
00:56:28.440
anti-war people they're no no no they want wars that that serve their interests exactly and again
00:56:34.600
i mean it's like biden said right this is a you know after the uh in his speech there is that after
00:56:39.640
the second world war there was a formulation of a liberal world order and all these countries are
00:56:44.680
beginning to kind of you know homogenize under this banner and stuff and now they're saying they're
00:56:49.160
kind of losing control of this and and look i'm not i'm not saying and i personally don't think that
00:56:54.920
it will be anywhere better for white people if russia teams up with china and india and a bunch
00:57:01.080
of asian countries and exerts more dominance than the you look it's been bad enough under u.s
00:57:05.640
control but we have no idea what's going to happen if we truly go into like the abyss in terms of
00:57:10.920
economic collapse and let's assume that they make it somehow over there right uh russian uh alliance
00:57:17.560
you have the belt and road initiative of course with israel trying to kind of right now israel
00:57:21.000
trying to play this uh in between game there they haven't been quite outspoken about pro being pro
00:57:26.200
ukraine or pro russia they've been asked to mediate many many many times right but but the point is
00:57:31.960
it's like a new uh alignment or new i guess a new cold war i guess that's the best term a new cold
00:57:37.240
war of sorts produce that that's right and i think if if the west you see i just can't
00:57:44.760
want the west to win because what we're about is multiculturalism we're massive immigration anti-white
00:57:51.800
politics um i i i just can't get behind it and i know the nationalists in ukraine i i love them and
00:58:01.800
they i see what they're why they do what they do but i see it from our point of view in you know
00:58:08.760
is someone who lives in the west and if the west wins this they're just going to clamp down all the
00:58:14.280
harder and so the whole anti-white revolution is going to go faster and faster and um yeah i cannot
00:58:22.760
say we need to we need to have uh we need to take control rational normal sensible people need to take
00:58:29.560
control of the west again and we and we need to be in a position where we're still influential but on good
00:58:35.800
term to we should trade with russia look and this you know we'll get into this in the second party
00:58:40.920
we're gonna take a break here now but again like this absolute lunacy from from from biden and from
00:58:46.440
these european leaders who are like shooting themselves in the foot you're cutting yourself
00:58:49.560
off from oil and gas and hydrocarbons what are you going to do fertilizer now all the grains like
00:58:54.520
this will be a disaster and again i think it's i think it's by design but we'll we'll talk more
00:58:59.240
about that in a second kevin we're gonna take a there's a quick break here you can follow kevin
00:59:03.000
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00:59:14.600
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00:59:19.880
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00:59:42.040
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uh we'll take just a quick break here uh ladies and gentlemen stay with us we'll be right back with uh with
00:59:51.080
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redicemembers.com for a very fascinating part two we're going to go deeper into the major consequences
01:00:03.240
of some of these policies now that we're seeing because of sanctions because of import export
01:00:08.280
restrictions and these kinds of things and the deeper crisis right these are very important topics
01:00:13.720
because they're right at the forefront and they might drastically change how we live not only the
01:00:19.640
within the scope of six months we don't know a year two years out maybe longer we we do not know how
01:00:25.800
these things are going to be resolved we don't know if we have the means and capability in many
01:00:30.040
western nations to kind of uh make up for the things that might be lost as a consequence of
01:00:35.080
the poor decision making that led to this schism between uh well essentially russia and the west
01:00:41.320
but in the continuation you have a increasing uh you know side on the on the east uh being formed with
01:00:47.080
with india and china of course kind of aligning with russia iran you know some of these other
01:00:52.120
countries a new alliance a kind of a new cold war of sorts is rising up out of this and again the
01:00:56.680
consequence of this high gas prices uh food shortages fertilizer shortage and again these could have
01:01:02.200
massive consequences uh in in a span of very short times we're going to talk more about that with
01:01:07.240
kevin mcdonald we have some other topics lined up as well we'll talk a little bit more some about the
01:01:11.320
crazy anti-whiteness that's still you know under as all of this is ongoing in the west and as we're
01:01:16.440
collapsing the anti-white nonsense is still continuing to this day there's a rising crime
01:01:22.360
of course uh these things are are never going away and we're seeing a west in decline and we kind of
01:01:28.680
ask the question well is is this is this what they want right isn't that one of the goals of the
01:01:33.080
frankfurt school is to make the west so corrupt that it stinks so the question is people are rooting
01:01:38.200
for the west collapse so they're just abiding by these um you know by this old uh agenda essentially
01:01:44.520
as opposed to advocating maybe for for a change in the west i'm not saying solely political but at
01:01:49.480
some point sane rational sensible people will have to step up and take responsibility and try to
01:01:55.640
restore our nations to some kind of balance again or uh or that'll be it at least in the current
01:02:00.280
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01:02:04.120
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