Red Ice TV - ICE To Deport Critics Of Israel？

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00:05:15.980 case and we've covered it kind of on and off a little bit in terms of what's been happening at

00:05:19.740 the university specifically columbia university but there are other you know investigations

00:05:24.300 happening uh over multiple i think it was a list of like 75 universities that they're looking at

00:05:29.700 and of course it's over the issue of these pro-palestinian protests uh the kind of the

00:05:35.480 trump administration is calling them pro hamas we can get into the distinction and what but

00:05:41.480 regardless this is what they're doing and it was this one famous case let me see if i can pronounce

00:05:46.060 his name correctly now as well uh his name is mahmoud khalil uh khalil there you go thank you for

00:05:53.980 thank you for the sound i appreciate that um he is the one that they've kind of uh started off with

00:06:00.860 i guess to a certain extent this is the guy right here he's uh uh born in syria uh but he was been

00:06:06.360 raised in palestine living in palestine for a long time uh and obviously of course that environment

00:06:10.940 at columbia university has kind of fostered this as well to be honest there's a lot of people at

00:06:15.540 the columbia university environment which is like well israel is kind of a white supremacist state so

00:06:20.600 this is like an offshoot of a lot of this leftist kind of cultural marxism type of environment at

00:06:25.380 these universities at least if you ask me however this the issue then of like okay what is free speech

00:06:31.380 is hamas then a terrorist organization how do you prove this there's a lot of you know things in the

00:06:36.220 weeds here that we kind of kind of get into but what's your initial impression when you heard about

00:06:40.080 this grandma well the initial impression was for me devastating uh happened on sunday 10 days ago

00:06:49.480 nine days ago and i didn't instantly hear about it i met a friend uh the next tuesday so exactly a week

00:06:56.360 ago and he told me about it and it instantly put me uh in a state of anxiety since i'm a green card

00:07:07.360 holder myself and hearing that guy is getting arrested without any uh criminal charges without

00:07:16.640 any criminal history just because he has been organizing demonstrations which should be covered

00:07:22.640 by the first amendment the freedom of assembly freedom of speech um that instantly put me on high

00:07:30.760 lower thinking uh thinking uh i could possibly be next now i have not been involved in any uh demonstrations

00:07:36.680 or activities when it comes to uh palestine uh it was not for the lack of trying though we had when it

00:07:46.840 started uh back in october uh 23 um we had some internal turmoil at castle back as as the publishing company

00:07:58.760 was called and went belly up shortly after because of this internal uh uh complications that we had

00:08:07.560 and and code and everything else it was disappearing the encyclopedia everything i was involved in was kind

00:08:12.280 of whacked off the internet so we had a struggle to keep things going and to resurrect stuff so i didn't

00:08:17.640 have time to focus on that uh because there was so much bad stuff going on but then we had a marketing

00:08:23.320 guy who was supposed to find out at which universities and colleges are these demonstrations most prevalent

00:08:30.920 most intense and then find out what kind of uh publications are there online uh blogs uh student

00:08:39.800 newspapers and so forth that are involved in it and then uh make promotion for our kind of uh free speech

00:08:47.560 speech issues and um books and particularly the encyclopedia we had had just then appeared in its first

00:08:56.680 edition um and for some reason our marketing guy was hogging the topic for three four months without

00:09:03.800 doing anything about it and we were getting very close to firing him because he wasn't eventually we

00:09:10.680 completely pivoted our approach to to marketing and we thought well pitching our thoughts to university

00:09:19.960 campuses which is actually something where our free speech organization the committee for open debate on

00:09:25.160 the holocaust codo.com has started in the 1990s placing advertisement at university campuses campus

00:09:35.240 newspapers that's how the organization grew okay and um that's actually the trigger for deborah list

00:09:45.160 says book denying the holocaust if you see the first edition of her book it has a collage of newspaper

00:09:51.720 clippings that shows advertisement that coda had placed and this uproar that was called in the nine

00:09:58.120 caused in the 90 90s due to these ads was the the trigger for uh sponsors to approach deborah lipstar

00:10:09.080 to write a book against quote unquote holocaust denial they had a lot of effects down the road uh david

00:10:15.160 irving sewer leading to a massive trial and uh showdown in london and starting in 99 going into 2000

00:10:23.640 uh with a lot of public attention this is the origin of the committee for debate on the holocaust and

00:10:30.120 the free speech organization which i am involved where we wanted to have now with this student uproar

00:10:36.840 happening at the university over what's gone in gaza plays ads again because over the past several years

00:10:42.280 we couldn't initially censorship by the adl the new york times and other organizations that ganged up against

00:10:49.080 us making sure that all university campus newspapers have a list a blacklist of advertisers who are not

00:10:57.960 allowed to place ads so we couldn't get any ads anymore in in the uh late 2000s early 2010s

00:11:06.360 so we gave up on the project but we thought well no it's a new generation in new attitude let's start

00:11:12.280 anyway our marketing guy wasn't going for it we shifted then away and went for podcasts that were

00:11:19.320 open to our ideas there it is you see all the clippings yeah right scandals and yep that's that's the

00:11:25.880 first edition so these are reactions to uh advertisements that that code had placed um yes the

00:11:39.880 sabotage he insists he didn't do it on purpose he was just busy with so many things things in his live

00:11:46.840 family uh taking center stage for him because he has two little children uh that uh he just didn't

00:11:54.280 find the time to do it on the upside since we didn't get our finger in that cookie jar we didn't get

00:12:02.680 slammed with anything either right yeah so in hindsight just don't say anything you'll be safe

00:12:08.520 yeah so i didn't get involved we are the organization and me particularly as one of the the uh most

00:12:15.160 prominent people there didn't get involved in it uh and we we got some flack by people why aren't you

00:12:22.440 and it's just internal turmoil combined with logistical and communication problems just we missed that boat

00:12:29.160 and uh fortunately for me they can't use this kind of leverage to put me in the proximity of people who

00:12:42.040 justify support or whatever support or quote terrorist organizations which

00:12:48.280 hamas is labeled as being in this country of course yeah

00:12:51.560 do that always say one of the one person's terrorist is the other person's freedom fighter

00:12:57.480 this is the way it's always just been in in areas where people are suppressed by any imperialist power

00:13:06.680 i remember the ira of you're talking about saint patrick's day the irish remember that yep the irish were

00:13:14.600 brutally suppressed by the english for centuries particularly north northern ireland

00:13:20.440 after the republic itself became independent after the first world war

00:13:25.160 um and in northern ireland finally persecution got so bad that the irish irish republican army turned violent

00:13:35.000 i would say counter violent because they weren't the ones who started the fighting

00:13:39.240 and eventually of course they were seen as a terrorist organization uh their political arms in fame in

00:13:46.120 in the republic of ireland was a recognized political party this to the state if i'm not mistaken

00:13:54.120 and they were officially slash inofficially supporting or in contact with the ira the

00:14:01.640 militant arms so to say so a hodgepodge of things once you turn violent

00:14:09.080 in trying to liberate your people from oppression from violent oppression in particular yeah but it's just

00:14:14.600 the palestinians have had faced even worse than than the northern irish um then you tread into a

00:14:22.600 territory where you can be and will be labeled a terrorist by those who you oppose yeah that's

00:14:30.280 just the the name of the game everywhere yeah i mean if you if you win the struggle you're seen as

00:14:35.880 the liberator but if you don't you're the uh you know you're the awful you know horrible terroristic

00:14:41.320 enemy that was crushed and uh you know the victor stays on top but yeah that's that's the nature of

00:14:45.960 it right so obviously these are there it's all related i think it's also all related by the people

00:14:52.280 who are doing this from from ice from people with this inside of you know trump's administration there's

00:14:56.840 these interests that these protests were no good and this leads of course to you know uh then in their

00:15:02.760 words you know that's hamas support to their terrorist kind of adjacent but baked into that cake you have

00:15:08.280 things like then you know at what point are you allowed to criticize israel uh you know especially

00:15:15.480 yeah revisionism so-called holocaust denial and these kinds of things there are all very adjacent so

00:15:21.800 one could see that if these types of cases starts going through that could expand the goal post for

00:15:27.640 that could move fairly quickly what what do you what do you think will happen here with this

00:15:31.640 uh i can tell you what i hope that happens i hope that it doesn't happen uh what i think that happens

00:15:40.600 uh i've always said once we are on a trajectory of success i've seen that in the past over and over

00:15:49.320 again if there is some success some positive feedback from the from general from the broader society

00:15:55.320 that uh political skepticism gains more and more acceptability uh becomes kind of normal

00:16:04.280 in in good society uh then the the the spiral of oppression and censorship uh takes another turn or

00:16:13.640 several turns to uh deter people with even more violent and brutal suppression um we have seen again with

00:16:21.320 uh in the context of the protests against what israel is doing in the occupied territories um as well as

00:16:30.440 due to the material we can now offer with the encyclopedia in particular that makes that information much

00:16:35.720 more accessible than anything made before that we are on a path of holocaust skepticism becoming acceptable in

00:16:45.160 good society which is something that um the mainstream of course certain forces certain groups in the

00:16:54.280 mainstream want to prevent on any circumstances what would be the best way for them of achieving that

00:17:02.280 is of course increasing oppression against these dissidents and making sure they're going away one way or

00:17:09.000 another and deporting me would be one i don't want to give the group the rest of people in my heart

00:17:14.120 to solve their problems but um that's what i fear could happen yes uh they expanded to quote unquote

00:17:22.600 holocaust denial just as much i don't really believe unless i have seen recordings or copies of

00:17:33.160 halil's writings that he has been supportive of of terrorist activities that see violent um

00:17:41.640 what yeah is excesses against jewish civilians what what are the i've monitored that early on maybe this

00:17:50.200 is continued whatever but i remember seeing some footage of like them kind of like yelling at like a

00:17:57.320 jewish student or something like that but violence did you have you actually seen any violence by the

00:18:02.840 pro-palestinian protest at these university campuses specifically i mean now i have not paid too much

00:18:09.560 attention to it okay say i couldn't make a statement about it for me right now it's halil he is arrested

00:18:16.760 for uh supporting terrorism but what does that mean you know the administration has a track record of

00:18:24.120 flying etc and distorting stuff to get their way and um i don't believe that he did anything like

00:18:33.160 like supporting violent acts against innocent civilians what is terrorism if a hamas fighter

00:18:39.800 fights against israeli soldiers so that's not terrorism that's called war um if he were to

00:18:46.440 to assault civilians that is terrorism that's actually what the israeli army is doing has been

00:18:52.040 doing all along so it's a terrorist army um if you call the israeli army and their actions a

00:18:57.960 terrorist army then the state of israel is a terrorist state and if you say that then you can't make the

00:19:03.960 equation well that's what hamas says and therefore you have similar opinions therefore you are supportive

00:19:09.480 and therefore you are a terrorist yeah this is the kind of uh rhetoric that takes something that can be

00:19:17.960 perfectly justified and it has nothing to do with hamas or not hamas to put you in their pool

00:19:25.160 yeah because he's i've seen that in in cases where revisionists are persecuted too

00:19:30.760 in my very first case i wrote an expert report that doesn't even mention

00:19:35.240 the word jew a single time and yet i was sentenced for inciting the masses to hatred against jews even

00:19:42.040 though as the word doesn't even exist so right doesn't really for them to make the point it

00:19:48.040 doesn't really require of halil having done anything no exactly um and i mean what's interesting about

00:19:55.160 this too you could even i'm not sure if this is the right spot for not but i do want to mention it

00:19:59.400 regardless right because if if your support for hamas is considered terrorism why don't we talk a little

00:20:07.560 bit about the history of netanyahu supporting and bolstering hamas now they didn't found them right

00:20:13.240 but apparently along the way they they funded them let me again to make the case let's play that famous

00:20:18.360 clip there's well ron paul mentions it even but there's uh ex-israeli prime ministers ehud barak

00:20:24.680 mentioned this let's play these two and i want your comment on this after listen if you look at the

00:20:28.200 history you'll find out that hamas was encouraged and really started by israel because they wanted

00:20:33.720 hamas to counteract yasser arafat you said well yeah that was better then and served his purpose

00:20:39.720 but we didn't want hamas to do this so then we as americans say well we have such a good system

00:20:46.920 we're going to impose this on the world we're going to invade iraq and teach people how to be democrats

00:20:52.120 we want free elections so we encourage the palestinians to have a free election they do and

00:20:56.920 they elect hamas so we first indirectly and directly through israel help establish hamas then we have

00:21:03.400 election then hamas becomes dominant so we have to kill him you know it it just doesn't make sense

00:21:09.640 here's ira barak listen so are you saying benjamin netanyahu deliberately boosted hamas to try to

00:21:15.400 prevent a palestinian state yeah sure he deliberately and systematically even even told his own record

00:21:22.440 whoever wants to avoid the threat of a two-state solution has to support my policy of paying protection

00:21:32.440 money to the hamas so what we did uh with the permission of our prime minister is to let qatar

00:21:42.200 to transfer a huge amount of money in cash probably more than 1.4 billion dollar by doing it we increase

00:21:52.760 the power of hamas we did everything in order to make sure that hamas will go on controlling gaza

00:22:01.160 and palestinian authority will control the west bank so they will fight each other so that's a classic

00:22:08.680 right blowback they support one group to cause division or whatnot i think it's an interesting

00:22:13.880 thing to kind of bring into this whole conversation because they're largely responsible for making sure

00:22:18.840 that it does in in a way kind of have the power right in in the gaza strip like it does today uh and of

00:22:24.440 course then you can argue you know uh what netanyahu's role in all of that is um and yeah miscalculations

00:22:31.160 happened uh many times i remind you of osama bin laden who during the afghani war against the soviets

00:22:38.440 was built up and basically created as the leader of the uh taliban by the united states

00:22:45.080 uh al-qaeda base they call it the right the whole thing is he it's not a u.s creation they were there

00:22:51.480 but they were nothing uh compared to to the power they are now and they were fed and grown into what

00:22:58.920 they are by the united states yeah and their proxy war against the soviet union yeah right yep right so

00:23:05.320 that blew up in their faces and that happens over and over again if you do these kinds of of shifty

00:23:11.160 operations where the enemy of my enemy is my friend and that is the kind of tactic which will

00:23:16.920 blow up in your face because he's not your friend no no they take advantage of you as long as they

00:23:21.960 can and you know yeah exactly uh i mean again not that this will look this obviously not going to

00:23:27.560 change any of the if there are legal cases here eventually because as you say so far this is kind

00:23:33.160 of very in a gray zone i guess of sorts like wait wait what what's actually all the charges and things

00:23:38.840 like this um but not that this will be taken into account but i think these are points we should

00:23:43.960 continue to reiterate when we bring these up to help to educate people that like this is not as

00:23:49.160 cut and dry as people think this is just not some terrorist group that showed up and had like

00:23:52.360 murderous vengeance for jews one day for no reason first they were propped up and then of course you

00:23:57.000 have decades as you mentioned of uh suppression of the palestinians and and the conditions in the

00:24:01.800 gaza strip and all this stuff like what what are they what are they supposed to do like what what

00:24:06.600 options do you have left essentially you know i mean yeah it's a huge open prison if you wish that

00:24:13.400 somebody has said it's the biggest concentration camp but it doesn't doesn't really uh bring to

00:24:20.680 living conditions normally and in in gaza before what happened on october 7th were better than in a

00:24:28.840 prison better than a german concentration camp or any concentration camp unless you got on occasion hit by

00:24:34.840 israeli israel a missile oh these missile strikes forth and back have been going on for decades

00:24:39.560 um so yeah the story is long is convoluted and goes back a century and more basically with the with

00:24:49.400 the start of the zionist movement in the late 90th century and uh it keeps on going jews keep expanding

00:24:57.960 and pushing out the non-jewish populace and confining them to more and more constricted places trying to

00:25:06.040 make them go away voluntarily and if not they use some more forces been going on since 1948 since dear

00:25:12.200 yasid um so nothing new there no no now coming back to the to the halil case uh strictly legally speaking

00:25:23.000 since he has no criminal charges and they don't claim he's going to be charged with anything he

00:25:28.600 shouldn't be they should not be able to arrest him and deport him however ever since we have had uh the

00:25:35.960 patriot acts after 9 11 the government has some leeway when it comes to claims that someone is involved in

00:25:43.720 terrorist activities supporting terrorist groups supporting terrorist states to uh take away certain

00:25:51.240 rights to process rights and and and what have you they uh they can't just arrest them confine them

00:25:58.280 it's what has happened after 9 11 with a lot of people ending up in guantanamo bay without any

00:26:05.800 charges held for years even decades in dismal circumstances and of course most of these were not

00:26:13.720 green card order but um that's what they can do with pretty much anyone i know the case

00:26:21.480 of a lady a lower diplomat who was involved in uh american embassy i think in baghdad uh during the

00:26:34.760 saddam hussein time running up to the the war against iraq in 2003 and she later wrote a book about it she

00:26:43.560 uh tried to negotiate between the iraqis and the americans after 9 11 the iraqis were uh hussein was

00:26:53.720 willing to offer all kinds of things to get out of this uh the crosshairs of the united states uh including

00:27:02.120 uh allowing other parties having democratic elections and having allowing the american corporations to plunder the

00:27:08.440 country's natural resources so hussein was desperate but the americans were turning in deaf ear to it

00:27:14.760 they were dead dead set on and invading and crushing the regime and so the diplomat was then publishing

00:27:23.480 what was going on and talking out about it publicly because she um couldn't believe the mendacity

00:27:31.560 of of the u.s diplomatic corps and she got arrested she disappeared for a number of years in one of

00:27:38.840 the detention centers that officially don't exist even in this country i think guantanamo bay is the

00:27:44.280 only one guantanamo bay everybody knows about that it exists and it's clear but there seems to be and she

00:27:48.920 says so much that she's been held in a detention center here in the united states without charges for a

00:27:53.960 number of years finally she was released and then she published a book about it um interesting podcasts

00:28:00.280 so that can happen even to us citizens yeah no of course yeah of course yeah i mean the asset forfeiture

00:28:06.920 they they frame you i mean all kinds of things the legal system is never intact in that kind of capacity

00:28:12.600 right and it's uh if someone has a you know has it out for you for whatever reason yeah you can up you

00:28:18.040 you will end up in trouble if that's the case now this again a side note but just to show the

00:28:23.000 the international meddling and stuff like this right of like if even um the this is camp buka

00:28:28.120 right another one of these prisons where they put a lot of these uh iraqis and stuff that basically

00:28:32.600 they were radicalized in u.s prisons that were like allowed to run these what they call jihadi

00:28:38.600 universities as the pbs headline says here we're basically then out of this you get this interesting

00:28:43.480 situation where isis becomes advantageous uh for for help to topple assad eventually which is another

00:28:50.200 israeli aspiration right um many headlines of that talking about how netanyahu was proud of the fact

00:28:55.000 that they like spearheaded this latest overthrow of assad and he's in what russia now or something like

00:28:59.480 that right uh so this is not at all as as uh you know the main well this is mainstream news but i'm

00:29:06.040 saying to put those pieces together of that puzzle of how they meddle and what group they support at

00:29:10.760 certain times when it's advantageous uh that story is very very uh rich and and expansive you know yeah

00:29:20.360 so this this case put me on edge and i was thinking about plan b what happens if uh i always have to

00:29:27.880 back up plans of of all the things i'm involved in that they don't go uh completely bust if something

00:29:36.200 happens to me uh but then actually came just a week later a second case um where a german was arrested

00:29:48.280 and so far i thought well they are trying to invoke now the uh alien enemies yeah 1789 yep um and um

00:29:59.320 they have actually started doing that for the deportation of uh gang members here from venezuela

00:30:07.160 and they're probably going to extend that to others of course that's an act that was meant to be

00:30:11.640 um enforced during times of war and we are not officially in a war with anyone uh you know you

00:30:21.640 could say united states in one way or another is always involved in some shadow war proxy war of course

00:30:27.400 yeah so they just drop on some on yemen yeah right yeah pretty much it was obviously the proxy

00:30:34.840 declaration of war against yeah that one too and i'm sure all the things that we have forgotten in

00:30:41.320 the third world yeah it's going on it keeps going on um sudan or some you know somalia or you know some

00:30:48.120 shit right so you can always say justify what we are at war with these or that and then you just

00:30:55.000 declare a new type of war against drugs war against the cartels war against whatever yeah

00:31:03.000 war on drugs that's right no i i was thinking that well germany is not an enemy nation even

00:31:07.720 though it's strictly speaking if you look at the united nations carter it has still the paragraphs in

00:31:13.400 there that says that germany is an enemy nation and they have not revoked that to this day that is

00:31:19.320 correct um but of course that's uh even the germans don't want to revoke because for it to be removed

00:31:29.320 requires a peace treaty a peace treaty opens so many cans of worms that nobody really thinks about the

00:31:35.560 peace treaty with germany so theoretically we have an armistice between the united states and germany since

00:31:40.920 may 8 1945 but nothing more legally speaking legally speaking they're an occupied country

00:31:48.680 yes and the state of war has never been officially ended anyway there's no one to make peace with from

00:31:55.800 the old regime and you have a new regime that was built up so um but considering that german is not an

00:32:04.120 enemy nation i thought well if they invoke the alien enemy alien act it's not going to affect me

00:32:10.600 and right the day after uh this was brought up that trump is going to evoke it i heard the news that

00:32:17.800 the german immigrant green card holder coming back from a trip he had made back to his native germany

00:32:25.800 got arrested on the airport with a claim that uh his his immigration file was flagged

00:32:33.240 and they then claimed um that he had a hearing in 2022 where he was supposed to show up and

00:32:43.880 that was about an old controlled substance case he evidently in california in 2015 was caught with some

00:32:50.760 marijuana and back then that was evidently more than uh private possession uh is allowed so it was some

00:33:02.200 30 grams or so that's allowed for private possession if more you're considered a dealer back then it

00:33:07.000 wasn't even legal in california but it became legal shortly after the case was eventually dismissed because

00:33:12.840 it had become kind of legal uh but still the case was on the record and um with my situation precarious

00:33:21.560 as it can be being involved in such controversial topic that the authorities don't like i have smartened

00:33:29.080 up on immigration law and how i have to behave and what risk are around where and i know that um if you

00:33:34.360 are ever convicted of a controlled substance case it is immediate reason for deportation so there's zero

00:33:45.640 tolerance when it comes to to drug smuggling and and selling um now he was evidently involved in such a

00:33:53.640 case but it was dismissed but it was still enough for the immigration authorities to want to have an

00:33:59.800 interview with him so they scheduled an interview for 2022 right around the time or shortly after

00:34:08.440 the the fellow had moved away from california to new york i think so to the other end of the country

00:34:14.120 don't quote me exactly on where he moved into but anyway somewhere he's and so the notice to appear

00:34:20.120 to the hearing didn't reach him then he was this is an automatic if you the immigration services schedule

00:34:28.440 a hearing to which you have to appear and you don't show up it's an immediate reason for deportation

00:34:35.400 right yep if the reason why you don't show up is because you moved and you didn't notify the

00:34:42.600 authorities timely enough of your new address not informing the immigration services of a new address

00:34:50.680 within 10 days is another reason for deportation so you have order three potential drug trading not

00:34:58.440 uh uh uh updating your record where you live you know there's no for u.s citizens they don't have

00:35:05.640 to uh register with the authorities where they live citizens can live without the one and they don't

00:35:11.160 have to tell anyone but as an immigrant you always have to have to tell the authorities where you are

00:35:17.160 so that they can reach you and that they can grab you and throw you out if they want to basically

00:35:21.640 get you out of the country so he failed on that and then he didn't show up for the hearing because

00:35:25.960 he hadn't informed where he was a lot of things that with under any administration would automatically

00:35:33.080 have led to his file being flagged and i was told from a number of lawyers this this this happens

00:35:39.400 your file gets flagged and if you ever show up at the immigration services or go through immigration

00:35:45.240 when you pass the border coming in or out of the country not out of the country there's no control

00:35:49.560 but coming back into the country you will get arrested so that would happen to him after reading

00:35:55.400 this i realized it has nothing to do with trump's campaign right it's just an automatic thing that

00:35:59.960 happens if you have all these problems with with your behavior um and uh so i relaxed after that again

00:36:08.440 and then i heard we have this website up here that uh by now the germans have three cases where people

00:36:15.000 were were arrested and so this is a sudden you know that's the big problem right now is there

00:36:22.120 is there a connection with frams new policy or is are they all my impression is right now everybody

00:36:30.360 particularly in our service is so alert and and paranoid about what the authorities do

00:36:36.840 that we pay attention to every case that happens and get crazy about it if you if you look at what

00:36:43.720 happened during the biden administration if you look at the numbers during the biden administration

00:36:48.520 per day many more immigrants got arrested and deported than what is happening currently in the

00:36:53.960 trump administration of course they had much more material to deport because there were so many more

00:37:00.280 illegal border crossings during the biden administration than they are now under trump

00:37:05.400 primarily because the the trump scare has evidently had an effect on a lot of immigrants not wanting

00:37:12.440 to risk to come here because they're not sure what kind of treatment they're going to get um be that as

00:37:18.440 as it may i have relaxed a little bit looking at this but i can't say i'm completely at ease because

00:37:28.440 it's not for the lack of trying that the administration wants to do stuff the judiciary still puts pretty

00:37:34.680 much a stop to it for now but i keep my ear on those uh on those cases and my eyes on those cases to see

00:37:43.720 how they will be as a result yeah i wonder what what uh steps then they will do next because obviously

00:37:51.000 as we showed a couple of those headlines there there's been some judges they step in uh and they try to

00:37:56.440 block uh this now the the alien enemies act is a different thing and obviously i think it's good that

00:38:01.080 they're deporting those venezuelans i think it was uh el salvadorians right it was bukele he received

00:38:07.320 them he has some whole prison system scheme going and stuff and he was happy to you know help the us

00:38:12.680 in that regard right because he gets money yeah and he generates money too the prison that like basically

00:38:18.920 has set up a whole new structure of how to deal with these gang you know criminals and stuff like

00:38:23.880 that right so that that's obviously you know a a good thing but as we said though that you know it's

00:38:28.760 about what kind of tone you set for this and then how easily legally will be to just anybody

00:38:34.920 because you know that's why i put it in the the title right it's they would say oh he's a pro

00:38:39.320 hamas supporter okay well let's argue what the proof of that is and whatnot right but is it enough to

00:38:44.040 just be critical of is not loving israel enough right we don't we'd enter it speak kind of in statements

00:38:49.480 like this essentially from some people out there from a maybe not tom homan hasn't said this but

00:38:55.160 obviously marco rubio has talked in these tones uh who else was it that did it recently i forget was

00:39:00.040 one person in the administration a couple uh there was like yeah and trump himself said it on true

00:39:05.800 social a couple of posts right that like they did their um anti-semites right essentially and

00:39:11.560 and that don't they don't belong in america and so can you create can you criticize israel is that is

00:39:15.560 that okay okay right maybe we should play the clip where uh rubio is asked about this case and

00:39:22.200 then makes statements yeah let's listen to that it's to come okay here we go i want to ask you

00:39:27.320 about a decision you made to revoke a student visa for someone at columbia university this past week

00:39:33.160 the wall street journal editorial board writes the administration needs to be careful it's targeting

00:39:38.200 real promoters of terrorism not breaking the great promise of a green card by deporting anyone with

00:39:43.720 controversial political views can you substantiate any form of material support for terrorism

00:39:51.080 specifically to hamas from this columbia student or was it simply that he was espousing a controversial

00:39:58.200 political point of view well not just the student we're going to do more in fact we every day now

00:40:03.240 we're approving visa revocations and if that visa led to a green card the green card process as well

00:40:08.200 and here's why it's very simple when you apply to enter the united states and you get a visa you are a

00:40:13.080 guest and you're coming as a student you're coming as a tourist or what have you and in it you have to

00:40:17.320 make certain assertions and if you tell us when you apply for a visa i'm coming to the u.s to

00:40:22.120 participate in pro hamas events that runs counter to the foreign policy interest of the united states

00:40:27.000 of america it's that simple so you lied you came if you had told us that you were going to do that we

00:40:31.720 never would have given you the visa now you're here now you do it so you lied to us you're out it's that

00:40:37.080 simple but is there any but is there any evidence of a link to terrorism or is it just his point of view

00:40:43.960 yeah they take over i mean do you not i mean you should watch the news these guys take over entire

00:40:49.960 buildings they vandalize colleges they shut down i'm asking about the specific justification for

00:40:54.840 the revocation of his visa was there any evidence was the spokesperson was the negotiator i'll be

00:41:00.120 negotiating on behalf of people that took over a campus that vandalized buildings negotiating over

00:41:04.920 what that's a crime in and of itself that they're involved in being the negotiator the spokesperson this

00:41:09.560 that the other we don't want it we don't need these people in our country that we never should have

00:41:12.680 allowed him in in the first place if he had told us i'm going over there and i'm going over there to

00:41:17.320 become the spokesperson and one of the leaders of a movement that's going to turn one of your

00:41:21.560 allegedly elite colleges upside down people can't even go to school library buildings being vandalized

00:41:27.160 we never would have let him in we never would have let him in to begin with and now that he's doing

00:41:31.160 it and he's here he's going to leave and so are others and we're going to keep doing it we are and by

00:41:35.320 the way i find it ironic that a lot of these people out there defending the first amendment speech alleged

00:41:40.600 free speech rights of these hamas sympathizers they had no problem okay pressuring social media

00:41:46.280 to censor american political speech so it i think it's ironic and hypocritical but the bottom line

00:41:52.200 is this if you are in this country to promote hamas to promote terrorist organizations to participate

00:41:57.560 in vandalism to participate in acts of rebellion and riots on campus we never would have let you in

00:42:02.840 if we had known that and now that is it only pro-palestinian people who are going to have their

00:42:07.320 visas remote provoked or other points of view as well no i think anybody who's here in favor look

00:42:12.280 we want to get rid of train that agua gang members they're terrorists too i we the president designated

00:42:17.320 them asked me to designate and i did as a terrorist organization we want to get rid of them as well

00:42:22.440 we don't want terrorists in america i don't know how hard that is to understand we want people we don't

00:42:26.920 want people in our country they're going to be committing crimes and undermining our national security

00:42:30.920 or the public safety it's that simple especially people that are here as guests that is what a visa is

00:42:36.520 i don't know where we've gotten it in our head that a visa is some sort of birthright it is not it is

00:42:41.080 a visitor into our country and if you violate the terms of your visitation you are going to leave

00:42:46.360 okay secretary rubio so obviously what what irks me about this is also look at the kalimba university

00:42:51.720 environments right of like decades of just anti-white anti-colonialist anti-european talking points

00:42:59.720 and again let's be honest kalimba university this is where the frankfurt school set up their

00:43:04.520 base after they were you know uh pushed out of germany at the time right uh they kind of

00:43:09.800 they created this environment of sorts they've gone after you know yeah this is that the colonialist

00:43:15.000 talking points just white people bad that's the meme but that's what they've that's what they've been

00:43:19.480 done been doing and it's not until israel the issue of israel comes up right now this is a crisis

00:43:26.840 it's a foreign policy issue from the point of view of the uh you know america and the the trump

00:43:32.120 administration and the you know the because their interest is more important apparently than americans

00:43:37.000 they have openly discriminated against white students they have lessened to bring in white

00:43:41.720 students etc you see where i'm going with this but now this is this is one bridge too far for them

00:43:49.160 what do you what do you make of this rubio dodged every single question that he was asked is there any

00:43:56.600 concrete evidence that he was materially supporting a terrorist organization specifically hamas there

00:44:03.720 was no answer to it he said well there was vandalism and he was negotiating the question is was he

00:44:09.960 involved in vandalism had he been he would have been criminally charged because vandalism is a crime

00:44:16.120 right there is no criminal charge not even a claim that there is any crime committed so yeah there may

00:44:21.880 have been vandalism i don't know what has been going on in detail there uh but he evidently is not

00:44:27.000 the person who has called for it and he is not the person who have been involved in it he has been

00:44:31.960 involved in negotiations but not about whether to stop or not stop the vandalism so rubio is is uh

00:44:40.040 changing the topic is is changing the narrative there uh to to something completely else and then he comes

00:44:45.720 up with the terrorists or from nicaragua or from from wherever they are uh some from venezuela that's

00:44:54.280 not mahalil's category it's something completely different so uh you see they're trying to use

00:45:03.960 rhetoric that may apply to some people on a completely different category of people and this is just not

00:45:10.760 right i'm thinking that most of the vandalizers probably were u.s citizen students and you can

00:45:15.640 they can't go after them except for media uh giving us a ticket a or misdemeanor charge but it's not

00:45:25.400 going anywhere um so you do have interesting things as well let me show you this remember this here's

00:45:31.720 the swedish nordic resistance movements was labeled or designated a terrorist organization three of its

00:45:38.120 leaders were sanctioned or whatnot right and they've never been involved in any kind of terrorism right

00:45:43.000 like this is what's so ridiculous right and now if you read the language within this again that's

00:45:47.800 why how i see this could kind of expand as well that like i mean look i could you know he's here

00:45:53.880 on a student visa first of all this question khalil that we talked about right he was here on a student

00:45:59.080 visa and then the bus issue did he overstay that or was he you know still active school right he was he

00:46:07.960 came into the country with a with a student visa and after a certain period of time he got married

00:46:13.880 to a u.s citizen and based on that he he he was able to receive a permanent legal residency so he's

00:46:21.160 married to you a citizen and she's pregnant with his child and so he is now not and this is another

00:46:26.920 thing that he completely goes off track he is not here on a visa anymore the visa can be revoked yes

00:46:33.800 then it's relatively easy and a visa uh runs out any visa is is temporary and eventually it will be

00:46:42.040 over with uh now he is here as a permanent legal resident in order to revoke that it's not that easy

00:46:49.560 because i don't like his bv the old views he needs to have certain criminal charges and having been

00:46:55.400 convicted for them unless that is the case you can't just you simply can't revoke that

00:47:01.640 so um we will see how that goes i don't think that any judge uh will go along with this revoking a

00:47:11.320 green card because you don't like someone's nose because that's what it amounts to um unless they

00:47:17.480 can file in uh five criminal charges against them and succeed in court with it uh this is not going

00:47:24.360 anywhere and if it were then the whole system of of permanent legal residency in the united states

00:47:33.560 would collapse anyone could just be thrown out at any point if that happens yep well i see there's

00:47:39.720 in one case where a certain person deported herself as they say official language is that's a voluntary

00:47:45.720 departure um yeah i mean they could change the legal framework right they could they can

00:47:51.240 lay whatever reason i mean that's it's their country that can decide that which is which is

00:47:57.640 fine i mean it's again it's like these are the criteria okay and now they're changed okay oh you

00:48:02.120 know it's kind of tough luck because i because i do what i'm saying is what does this you know

00:48:07.720 there's so many problems so this is just like taking one little you know pee out of a bowl of

00:48:13.560 peas and saying here this is the problem right here but but regardless let's just look at it for

00:48:17.240 whatever it is right is that the pro-palestinian thing at this university i understand that it's

00:48:22.120 free speech and all these things but like but does it belong in america like i can i can i get the

00:48:26.440 argument right like if you're so fanatical about palestine you can you can go there and fight for

00:48:31.240 palestine you know i i get that i know you're also arguing just the legal aspect of this like what is

00:48:35.800 actually legal or whatnot um but at the same time i'm also pro and obviously america uh having the

00:48:42.360 immigration policy that they do want as i said before what irks me is that it only seems that it's over the

00:48:47.080 the israeli thing now that they're just the whole machine springs into action when you've had uh you

00:48:52.440 know other interest groups and and uh other ethnic groups that are like undermining american interest

00:48:58.600 and the european heritage of america and things like this is what i'm saying like i think it's fine

00:49:03.000 for them to take charge of of how they want to direct their country and who belongs and not

00:49:07.560 but it's like this is what it's doing and of course that reflects the disproportionate power that the

00:49:13.160 jewish lobby the israeli lobby has in the u.s and it was not until these campus protests popped up

00:49:18.040 tons of people like what's what's happening like this is no good we got to shut this down same thing

00:49:22.520 in many european countries remember those huge protests all the muslim populations in europe that

00:49:27.000 they've brought in are now all of a sudden you know um protesting over over the israel palestine stuff

00:49:34.440 and it was like the establishment even henrik kissinger remember this uh this is a headline for you

00:49:39.160 here um henry kissing wrong hamas attacks fall out germany let in too many foreigners mass immigration

00:49:45.800 was a grave mistake and now they're asking they're acting like this is like whoopsie we made a mistake

00:49:51.000 you know kind of thing it's like well you may you made this situation you you created this deborah lip

00:49:57.320 said in the book you just showed uh 10 15 minutes ago has a line in there that says if we let germany

00:50:05.000 have control over their own history if we let german historians decide what german history looks like

00:50:11.080 if we lose control over what is allowed not allowed to be said in germany we understood as the jews then

00:50:19.960 things are going to really go bad we need to make sure that the germans understand that when it comes to

00:50:26.600 immigration they have to accept whoever and whenever someone comes to their country and wants to be accepted

00:50:33.560 there is with germany's past no alternative but to accept anyone who flees persecution or destitution

00:50:43.560 or whatever it is so she was pushing that envelope with german guilt for the holocaust require them

00:50:50.120 eternally to accept whatever economic or political refugee knocks at their door and that's exactly the

00:50:57.320 policy that uh jews in particular but the whole left-wing scene in germany and the liberals and everyone

00:51:04.120 else has been pursuing ever since the 1960s yeah and the result you can see now and suddenly they don't

00:51:11.320 like it anymore you know i've said for years the jews should think that they cannot milk the cow they slaughter

00:51:20.840 and they're slaughtering they're slaughtering every country in europe yeah by uh destroying family

00:51:26.920 values with their ideologies important ideologies you meant the frankfurt school that was one of their

00:51:32.120 main aim is destroying family values in germany and then then this demographic collapse started which

00:51:39.320 inevitably has to lead to mass immigration because otherwise the whole society would collapse you have

00:51:43.320 no alternative but to have mass immigration if you stop having babies somebody else is going to have them

00:51:48.680 and that's just the way it is you know the kind of people that come in they don't like is that true

00:51:54.120 though i mean look at how germany recovered after the war massive amounts of germans died and still they

00:51:59.000 recovered and that was without immigration when did the turks come in those that's 60s 70s to build you

00:52:04.680 know 60s yeah so i mean that's almost a decade and a half later the year of the most birth life birth in

00:52:13.960 german history was 1964 that's the year i was born right and my generation cops itself the year of the many

00:52:23.480 in 1965 the anti-baby pill was introduced in germany now it was the end of the story

00:52:30.440 anti-baby pill is leading the german people not only them to extinction okay this is a choice it's not like

00:52:39.080 anyone is getting forced to take the anti-baby pill that's a choice that everyone has but with

00:52:44.920 materialism hedonism and the destruction of family values of love as the central core value of any nation

00:52:52.680 substituted with uh self-realization and liberalization and all the stuff that the the uh yeah the section

00:53:01.160 this is a look at that the pill was a catalyst for the sexual revolution right and so it's yeah

00:53:07.080 free love exactly so yes that has definitely helped with the collapse of the birth rates in

00:53:14.360 in europe and america obviously did they go to africa and introduce the pill there i don't think they did

00:53:18.440 did they oh yes yes it's not quite catching on yet but it didn't help india india has announced this

00:53:27.080 year just a couple months ago i think that their birth rate has now dropped beneath the sustainable

00:53:33.240 rate yeah it's interesting 25 years to get there like i said yeah we in 25 years or in 50 or whatever

00:53:42.200 it was compared to england their big motherland who took 150 years to get from extreme uh population

00:53:50.680 growth which led throughout the 19th century and the first half of the the 20th century to the point

00:53:56.040 where they control their birth rates and um they're comparing apples with eggs because they have the

00:54:02.760 pill now and they have a completely different environment and the through the 19th century there

00:54:07.080 was no birth control worth mentioning so you get married you have children that's just the way it is

00:54:12.680 you have a sexual drive and it will inevitably lead to pregnancy that's not the case anymore the

00:54:18.440 detachment of reproductive uh success from sexual activity is is the one thing that is

00:54:25.800 unique for mankind the only species on this planet has ever managed to to couple the two things and

00:54:31.000 is headed for extinction uh because of it yeah we don't want this is yeah modernity is our enemy

00:54:37.400 comfort is our enemy um but it's there now it is what it is right but yeah if you look statistically

00:54:45.400 a lot of developing countries and of course a lot of them are attaining you know fairly not not across

00:54:50.840 the board but you know generally here and there um more modern type western lifestyles if you want to

00:54:57.000 look at that and many of those countries many of those populations are actually declining faster than

00:55:02.440 many european uh countries are or or were at least and some of our countries have kind of you know kind of

00:55:08.600 stabilized a little bit but they're declining faster than ours yeah they have to battle two things they

00:55:13.960 have to battle declining birth rates and mass emigration exactly yep yep uh germany some of them

00:55:21.320 definitely have the population to cope with that though i mean there's india china obviously you know

00:55:26.120 yeah for them it takes a while uh but it's it's common it's just a matter of time yeah um when you look

00:55:32.680 at germany and england in particular they are so such attractive immigration countries where everybody

00:55:38.600 wants to go the germ is because of their welfare system that throws just money at everyone uh and

00:55:46.600 and the english because the english language almost everyone speaks that already so it's an easy start

00:55:52.760 um and and of course they have the empire everywhere and they have relationships and special

00:55:58.040 deals with this and that country that makes it kind of easy common commonwealth legal structure right

00:56:02.920 uh common chaos anyway um so they they can substitute or replenish their population uh with with immigration

00:56:15.400 because they are so attractive it's different if you look at at greece italy spain they're not that

00:56:20.360 attractive and uh they are having a really hard time with with uh this situation if it weren't for

00:56:28.120 europeans shuffling immigrants around um and eastern countries even worse where they don't

00:56:35.320 fare well economically and if they're not part of the european union and right now locked in a war russia

00:56:41.240 and ukraine have demographic collapse no immigration they have massive emigration and they have a war going

00:56:47.000 on yeah these two countries will collapse so fast uh within a couple of generations it will be lights up

00:56:54.200 for both of them well they're both they're already calling for uh you know into ukraine making up for

00:56:59.160 the loss of the whole generation of men that are being killed in the meat grinder uh with the with

00:57:04.680 the immigration from the third world the headlines are popping out now we call it from the beginning

00:57:09.320 too that like that's what they're going to do and of course you know here we are they're going to call

00:57:15.960 i'll say this at the same time countries that do not take in immigration long term will fare much

00:57:22.520 better than countries that do you have to take into the fact first of all they say oh well you know

00:57:26.440 someone's got to do their jobs or whatever then you discover a lot of them are social you know

00:57:30.200 there aren't welfare they're become dependents on the country as opposed to contributor to it the

00:57:34.840 second issue of course is now you have internal destabilization you have balkanization now we have

00:57:40.200 different ethnic groups competing over power internally uh the long-term effects of that i think is

00:57:46.200 obviously far far worse than a country that's like all right well let's see what happens

00:57:51.000 shall we economically we might not do good but it's not all about the gdp this is about you know

00:57:56.280 our survival you know if if the demographic collapse can at some point be turned around

00:58:03.240 i think i think it's inevitable that it will because you do have there's upsides with it right

00:58:09.320 i mean look at house prices availability these kinds of things like many of our countries now look

00:58:14.440 at canada it's like a prime example right but it's happening all over the west essentially there's no

00:58:19.000 houses they're continuing to flood their country with immigrants young canadians they can't even

00:58:23.960 even if they could find a house they couldn't afford it they in other words they can't you know fly out

00:58:28.600 of the nest from their parents house they can't you know start a life on their own they're certainly not

00:58:33.320 going to have kids in that type of environment it's undermining i i think it's a that's a plan

00:58:37.480 obviously but i'm saying that's undermining the capability of the native populations in most european

00:58:42.840 countries to actually uh get off their you know asses and and start you know having kids and doing

00:58:49.240 family having families like everyone else did when they were around that that age like prior generations

00:58:53.800 did but now it's like close to impossible to do that you know at the end those population groups with

00:59:04.280 attitudes of family value of loving children and having children will be the ones that survive absolutely

00:59:11.480 will be the ones that that will thrive and take over um i've made that that comment a number of

00:59:19.880 times if you look here in america uh the the african-american uh group is slowly but surely sliding into

00:59:28.520 demographic collapse as well mexicans or hispanics of the second and third generation uh don't reproduce

00:59:36.760 sufficiently either it's being upheld by continuous immigration white population is going downward but

00:59:44.520 if you look at the one population group in the united states that is having an exponential growth

00:59:50.600 an explosive growth you can say and it's a white population amish the amish right um they double every

00:59:59.960 15 years a little over a million right now i think and they also don't have modernity isn't that

01:00:04.840 fascinating the correlation there right so these kinds of people with that kind of attitude will

01:00:12.440 be the ones taking over it's inevitable you know you don't like their fundamentalism but that's that's

01:00:20.360 well yeah that's that's his nature there's no referee here that's gonna step in and blow the whistle and

01:00:24.760 say ah that's unfair you got you know this is just what it is it's we're still part of nature despite all

01:00:29.640 modernity and all our you know gadgets and what have you we're still uh you know beholden to the

01:00:35.800 the rules of nature and that's just how it is but you know again i i'm yeah i get all those points and

01:00:40.040 what i'm just not as passive because i see that like a a a a rebound and and and you also have to take

01:00:47.320 into account of like in the past you had tremendously many more people they that that died for different

01:00:55.160 reasons they were taken out they were not even maybe well they were kind of odd or weird or

01:00:59.800 whatever like you know the spiteful mutants is a term that's caught on on the economy in these circles

01:01:05.000 in regards to that that like these might have been people that were ostracized in the past now in the

01:01:08.920 modern age everyone survives essentially right uh you can basically plan your family you intend to have

01:01:14.680 two kids or one or three and generally most of those will survive uh in the past that was not the case

01:01:21.800 if you wanted you know if you had like we gotta have five kids you had to have like 10 because

01:01:26.760 five of them probably will not survive but but you know refrigeration antibiotics medicine other things

01:01:31.560 right has led to everyone survives uh but that also preserves every single mutation genetically speaking

01:01:38.520 and so these times are unprecedented in the sense that our population are just ballooning and

01:01:42.920 exploding or have been at least and now you're finally kind of beginning to see a contraction again and i

01:01:47.640 think that's normal i actually think that's nature coming back to some degree yeah to some degree it's

01:01:54.280 necessary that the planet cannot sustain nine billion people at a living standard as all everyone wants

01:02:01.320 to have it like yeah no it's impossible so the planet wouldn't be able to to sustain that so we need to

01:02:08.440 get down to a lower level how we get there is the trick and how then when we get down how we stabilize the

01:02:14.280 situation but it's in the far future and we don't have to solve problems no that's it's not our worry

01:02:19.960 right now but yeah it's far too many people right now that's that's what i think in a way

01:02:24.520 um okay so let me see here so we've talked about rubio and stuff what else can we tie into this picture

01:02:30.760 here because i think you know again my point of bringing up the nordic resistance movement was also

01:02:35.080 then now this was done under biden and these good things in reverse or whatever where the story go here

01:02:39.720 but it is interesting that uh you know a group or an organization out of sweden that hasn't been

01:02:49.640 involved in any type of terrorism can be designated as a terrorist group uh you know who who are the

01:02:55.640 interests behind that etc but if you look at the some of the readings of this and go through it it's

01:03:00.520 like if you give them educational like you know like if you talk to them is that a you know anyone who's

01:03:06.360 a member then you're you know it's very interesting this could happen technically to any any group but

01:03:11.720 there could be political parties in in europe that rises up and then america decides that we don't like

01:03:16.840 that party we're gonna terrorist label them it's very uh frivolous i guess and but it's always been

01:03:23.480 that's my point too it's just that we're in a very different political environment now with the last couple

01:03:28.360 of decades things have been so um kind of blown out of proportion so much uh focus and attention on

01:03:38.520 political issues like it wasn't in the past i think this is a natural outcome of like social media people

01:03:43.720 generally seem to be more aware uh you have more pushback against establishment political views i mean

01:03:50.920 the prior you know administration they had their issues whether it was the coveted restrictions and people

01:03:55.960 were uh sharing information about that and it was almost like it's not that they terrorist label

01:04:00.440 them obviously but there's like misinformation is one of the biggest threats that there is

01:04:04.440 disinformation we have to censor we have to block we have to do all these things it's a very different

01:04:09.160 environment now and and i think uh this is a sign of that too we're essentially a group that's like

01:04:15.800 looking out for its own you know ethnic preservation essentially is now labeled a terrorist movement

01:04:20.600 i took the time to read what you have up there and they are accused of having been involved in uh

01:04:28.360 violent attacks on uh immigrants pro-jewish or jewish and rbtq uh platforms and so forth

01:04:39.000 i don't know whether that's true but if it does most of that is defensive during their pro uh

01:04:45.000 protests or marches and things like that that where they've actually been attacked and then they

01:04:48.680 defend themselves which i guess they're not allowed to do but as far as i know it maybe there's cases

01:04:52.440 i'm not aware of but that's as far as i understand the situation that's basically what that is yeah

01:04:57.880 that reminds me of things that have happened here too uh during the marches and where was that down

01:05:03.160 in south carolina north carolina somewhere um where this happened i was a right wing

01:05:10.120 oh you're talking about charlottesville protest charlottesville yeah yeah of course yeah exactly well

01:05:15.000 same thing there there was literally i was there i mean that was literally like the cops were like

01:05:19.320 you've got to leave right the the order to what do you call it uh uh dissolve the i mean it was in

01:05:26.040 the protest it was actually speeches is going to be held in lee park in front of the statue that was

01:05:31.000 about to be taken down and then of course it ramps up it's under trump trump's first administration

01:05:35.880 becomes this whole political thing and oh my god you know um and eventually of course the police says oh

01:05:41.240 no uh your your right to to protest or have this gathering has been revoked you got to leave and

01:05:47.320 the police basically pushed all of the protesters into the arms of the counter protesters so they

01:05:52.440 initiated the violence essentially but anyway that's a different story yeah anyway um koto's founder and

01:06:04.360 long time uh head bradley smith has been listed as among the ton 10 top extremists in america

01:06:14.840 uh until his death in 2000 what was that well until he kind of uh mid 2010 um

01:06:27.000 you see an angle here a an organization that does free speech lobbying on a topic that powerful groups

01:06:32.920 don't want to hear uh dissenting views on or don't want to have them voiced publicly to be pushed in

01:06:40.600 an extremist uh corner the only extreme thing that bradley smith has ever lobbied for is free speech and

01:06:51.000 open debate on that topic so right free speech and open debate is an extreme idea when it comes to this

01:06:57.480 topic and that does show you not so much the extremist views that members of koto have but the extreme

01:07:05.240 situation that a society finds itself in where opinion leaders and powerful political group can push the

01:07:14.520 narrative successfully that people insisting on civil rights are extremists and that's that's a very

01:07:20.920 dangerous situation we find ourselves in as a society when just normal free speech lobbying becomes an

01:07:28.840 extremist activity and it's only a little start then step then to say it's a terrorist organization

01:07:36.280 because if you're getting pushed in the corner turned into pariah being deprived of rights and and some of

01:07:44.920 your supporters are being even persecuted being denied equal economic opportunity by being denied banking

01:07:53.000 rights and so forth all these things are happening at some point someone will snap it has nothing to do

01:08:01.000 with what the organization uh promotes supports condones justifies in any way but we had one one

01:08:11.320 supporter of ours and was not a part of the organization but he was a supporter a small time donor on occasion

01:08:19.160 uh went on a rampage at the uh washington dc marcos memorial museum when was this in 2009 i was just

01:08:34.440 about to be released from a german prison when i learned it by reading it in the new york times i read the name

01:08:41.880 of the person of the person and i had him on the list of people who had written me into prison

01:08:48.440 and he had contributed to my prison defense fund

01:08:54.600 there is a memorial plaque inside the museum if you go into the holocaust memorial museum ever

01:09:01.480 in the entry lobby there i have no intention okay there's one of the pillars had a memorial plaque that

01:09:08.360 memorialized the one guard an african-american guard who was shot by this person i never met that person

01:09:16.280 personally uh but i needless to say i was shocked because nothing what we do or say what we promote

01:09:24.760 or lobby for has justifies in any way violence quite to the contrary we have a strict rule that nothing

01:09:33.000 is acceptable that amounts to denying other people's their civil rights other people their civil rights

01:09:39.160 and right to self-determination because if we do that step we can't insist on our own civil rights

01:09:45.560 if you use your civil right of speech free speech to deny other people in any way their civil rights

01:09:51.000 you use the moral justification of using and having your own civil rights therefore it's a no-go

01:09:57.400 and of course killing people hurting people doing any kind of violence against people is a massive

01:10:03.080 violation of of the victim's civil right and therefore it's a big no-go zone for us as an organization

01:10:11.640 yet still it happened and why did it happen the guy was uh was diagnosed with terminal cancer

01:10:20.920 and he was thinking how to best spend the last day of his life by doing something that

01:10:28.120 if i there's samson option if i'm going down somebody will go down with me

01:10:33.880 the the idea of of going into holocaust memorial museum and shooting people up you don't shoot

01:10:39.400 jews there if you go and then you choose shoot guards people at the register and tourists and

01:10:46.280 museum visitors the probability that you get a jewess even if it would have been even worse i mean it's

01:10:55.400 so far beyond what is what i can wrap myself around with all the persecution oppression that i've

01:11:02.680 personally experienced never been pushed anywhere close to the point where i thought i would become

01:11:08.040 violent but there is it happened and um that gives of course the system if they could make a connection

01:11:18.680 between the two now he as i mentioned he was never associated in any way other than having given a few

01:11:25.640 donations on occasion with our organization but that's enough for the system to say see there's a link

01:11:30.760 he bad right you bad you know yeah of course that's how it works uh now that's so far as i know the only

01:11:37.320 case and i don't want more um and that's why i've put up over and over again and i'm talking about this

01:11:45.640 once in a while i have when i launched the encyclopedia i had a preface in there i had to retract it

01:11:52.200 because i got so much much pushback from within the quote unquote community that was hinting at the

01:12:00.200 fact that i do not want this to be misunderstood as a tool

01:12:08.600 to be used to justify limiting jewish or zionist civil rights that's a no-go so

01:12:19.480 that was seen as inappropriate it doesn't belong in encyclopedia so i've retracted it it's actually

01:12:26.840 still online um not directly linked but it's sitting there um i want to always get the message out

01:12:36.600 with all the controversy with all the dissent with all the um skepticism that we

01:12:43.640 espouse that we get into confrontation with with the mainstream there's not a single justification

01:12:53.480 uh in in any of this to to take measures that violate anyone's civil rights i mean yeah i mean

01:13:00.360 it's totally irrelevant to your work your work is academic and scientific and historical and

01:13:06.360 understanding it and you know truth that's that's what it is it's not you know it's not political

01:13:11.240 activism per se i mean you can an extent an extension on that could be or that someone uses material from

01:13:17.480 that and you know justify this or that but ultimately you as far as your work is concerned this is to

01:13:22.840 coming to the uh bottom of a question which has been um you know discouraged and in some cases

01:13:30.440 violently discouraged from being uh discussed uh publicly uh historical events you know world war ii

01:13:35.880 what happened what happened with the gas all that stuff there has been there has been a lot of violence

01:13:40.520 against religionists exactly much more yeah arsons firebombing uh letter bombs uh physical attacks

01:13:49.800 assassinations so uh the the equation the balance when you look at it is is i can't say you know a favor

01:13:58.440 morally speaking uh when it comes to violence it's bad comparison to to make but anyway um the situation

01:14:06.840 um has gotten a little better uh the last book that i released it's a nazi gas chambers the roots of the

01:14:17.080 story uh i managed to connect some dots when i was i mentioned that before when i was writing the

01:14:23.960 encyclopedia uh showing actually how that story was created during the war uh primarily by polish

01:14:32.200 underground and after the war uh during the war by doing and after the war by soviets and then the

01:14:40.360 soviet the stalinist uh polish judiciary at the end of the war pushing the narrative uh in the german

01:14:51.400 polish conflict which was the core of the second world war that's where it broke out because of

01:14:55.880 territorial uh claims made by both sides against each other after the first world war that spiraled

01:15:05.560 into straight into the second world war and after the second world war the courts wouldn't make sure

01:15:10.120 that they ram some stakes into the ground and say this is not all ours and you will never ask us for any

01:15:17.160 uh justice justice justice we take so much territory from you now and expel every one of you and then

01:15:26.280 ram down this genocidal story on your throat so that you'll uh you will feel eternally guilty and accept

01:15:34.040 any kind of punishment that will be imposed on you after that war that's pretty much a success has nothing

01:15:41.480 to do with jews um no even that story doesn't today justify any action against the poles that live today

01:15:49.880 that's all history um it's just important to understand where the story comes from it's not a

01:15:55.480 jewish conspiracy and um i've laid it out in that booklet very nicely uh it's mainly the stalinist polish

01:16:04.200 judicial authorities probably instructed by by high ops and a political leadership in porn or maybe from

01:16:10.600 moscow to solidify and uh streamline this narrative that had involved out of war propaganda from various

01:16:18.920 sites um and i just had a a discussion i don't know whether you had seen my my debate with a mainstream

01:16:28.120 professor professor dr fan on the jake shields show not the whole thing i saw clips but i didn't see the

01:16:34.520 whole uh the entire uh yeah yeah now this exchange was um interesting on a number of for a number of

01:16:43.400 reasons but it was also a little bit unfortunate because jake shields kept interrupting when i was

01:16:49.400 trying to make a point uh dr van was was asking a lot of questions and he wanted to get

01:16:55.080 my point of view because he knew the mainstream point of view everybody knows the mainstream narrative

01:16:59.960 on the holocaust but he wasn't that well versed in the topic as far as he wasn't diverse but he was

01:17:04.840 genuinely secure genuinely curious to find out what what my views are and right sets it apart from

01:17:12.520 the cliche that's out there about holocaust denial yeah so it was very fair but then i you know i'm

01:17:18.360 getting asked a simple question which however comes with a complex answer because

01:17:23.640 uh things aren't always simple and jake shields kept interrupting he wasn't good but anyway at one

01:17:30.600 point he says um jake shields says one of the most important and convincing um arguments that are brought

01:17:41.640 forward by the mainstream is that the holocaust was thoroughly um demonstrated and proven the mainstream

01:17:48.520 narrative during the nuremberg trials after the war and dr van says yeah yeah there was uh plenty of

01:17:56.280 evidence uh presented there that is for him uh convincing and i wasn't really like confessions and stuff like

01:18:05.960 that right confessions and confessions documents government reports uh all kinds of things that um were

01:18:13.400 presented and i just started to briefly get into it and giving one example that was presented during the

01:18:19.880 nuremberg trials of the maidani camp the russians introduced an expert report saying one and a half

01:18:25.240 million people died there in seven gas chambers and today's narrative says simply uh it's 78 000 people

01:18:31.800 not one and a half million 78 000 who died there and there were only two gas chambers not seven so it's a

01:18:37.800 drastic a massive downward revision that is uh getting much much closer to the revisionist

01:18:43.160 position but then i got cut short we got derailed by another question by jake shields and

01:18:47.720 it kind of trailed off but i thought it's an important uh topic to address because indeed for a lot of

01:18:56.120 people the nuremberg trials 42 volumes of uh documentation for the international military tribunal

01:19:05.640 and another 15 volumes i think for the nuremberg military tribunals that were done afterwards

01:19:10.680 by the americans only there's a massive amount of documentation that needs addressing how do we

01:19:16.760 revisionists counter that i thought okay i'm going to write a book you can't do that in a

01:19:22.360 uh one hour two hour podcast that can only go so deep into so few topics for such so little time

01:19:31.000 that needs thorough coverage and i sat down i just now wrapped it up yesterday the manuscript uh did you

01:19:37.720 go through the entire all the court documents and the records and all that this is only the

01:19:42.120 international military tribunal okay so i've limited that to the biggest where the most evidence on a

01:19:48.440 broad variety of topics was presented by all four powers uh and in the background by the polls who were

01:19:54.440 feeding their stuff through their proxies the soviets um the nuremberg military tribunals under the

01:20:01.320 americans is a separate issue if i were to cover everything the book would just balloon a little bit

01:20:06.920 out of proportion so i limited by scope uh to that um but um there are other studies where that

01:20:14.520 have addressed already uh the issues that were dealt with in the nuremberg trials and i'm referencing

01:20:19.560 them so if you want to have something on that it can be found out so that's weird so there's currently

01:20:24.600 being peer-reviewed should be out within a month hopefully okay we have a good point a good book to

01:20:32.440 point people to if they come up with that argument but it has been proven during the imt of the war

01:20:38.280 and here's down how you can read what that evidence presented there is worth interesting all right

01:20:44.680 conclusion i say well it's not worth mostly it's not worth the papers written on and the proof rise in the

01:20:51.240 pudding which which i present here with further readings giving plenty yeah i mean we uh well i'm not

01:20:57.560 gonna say we've all heard but i'm saying one of the more you know common uh understandings people

01:21:03.480 are there are at least remotely interested in these kinds of things is of course how testimony

01:21:08.520 uh or confessions were made under torture and you know things like this essentially um right where you

01:21:15.080 can't try you know this and this is common this is not this is not you know unique to this period only

01:21:20.200 this these are as we said before the the victors are the liberators and they're the great heroes and

01:21:25.880 whatnot and the uh those who lose they're the they're the villains that's uh that's how it pans out but

01:21:30.440 of course that doesn't mean that that's true obviously right so yeah uh ford's document misinterpreted

01:21:38.440 interpreted documents a documentary that has true imagery with false captions and a false narrative

01:21:46.760 uh all these things have been introduced in any government expert reports created by soviet

01:21:53.480 investigative commissions that make a mockery out of forensic science yeah um so there's a lot

01:22:00.120 been going on doing that trial that requires exposure to to understand the the travesty of justice that

01:22:08.840 this mock trial was yeah oh for sure definitely uh it's uh is gurma rudolph the best place to go for

01:22:15.960 people to to pick up copies of this when it's out or any of your current ones uh that would be the the

01:22:22.360 the bookstore if you go to armreg.co.uk um that is where we could find it also if you go to the

01:22:32.440 holocaust encyclopedia.com it has a bookstore link there and you can jump from there to the bookstore

01:22:38.440 where you can find all the books so let me i'll pull that up here too real quick um anything else you

01:22:46.920 want to mention about the the current case coming i mean again we'll we'll keep an eye on that obviously and

01:22:51.320 see what uh what comes out of it uh because this could extend or you know those judges trying to

01:22:56.680 block it and stuff like that uh you know his his not extradition but his deportation uh let me see

01:23:03.560 i forgot an r in there that's that's a problem i think uh is this the page yes that i think it is

01:23:11.800 i'll pull it up there in a moment but anyway uh anything else with the what what do you think is

01:23:15.000 going to happen next here with uh uh khalil khalil i gotta pronounce it correctly

01:23:24.360 the kh is the sound which doesn't exist in the in the english language as a matter of fact if you look

01:23:29.880 at all the gh's in the in the in the in the english language sorry for the digression you look at the

01:23:35.880 word night it has a can i gh the gh doesn't get pronounced you look at laughter it is turns into an

01:23:44.520 f if you look at uh sight and light it has all the gh in there and it doesn't make any sounds or in

01:23:51.880 some rare cases it makes an f sound so why is it in there now if you know the equivalent german word

01:23:56.920 which is almost identical but has not a gh but a ch and the ch is pronounced

01:24:04.280 connect connect right licht is light instead of l-i-g-h-t you have l-i-c-h-t uh-huh yeah night

01:24:14.040 is not g-h-t turns into c-h-t so the english language has lost the ability of pronouncing the ch but in

01:24:22.680 the words as you spell them it's still there it's the gh that used to be your yeah okay but since it

01:24:28.360 doesn't have that function anymore um and it's simply ignored when speaking it um you have

01:24:36.600 no agreed on the k-h having that function but nobody understands you have to actually rasp how do you hiss

01:24:44.040 or uh uh yeah modern problems and here's the website okay armreg yep there's the armreg yes that's

01:24:55.560 that's where if you scroll down you find the the the last release that i had with the um nazi gas

01:25:01.960 chambers yep right there it is yep and as soon as the new one will be released in a month or so it

01:25:08.200 should be appearing on top okay um so armreg.co.uk very good all right um any other closing thoughts

01:25:19.480 about the topic at hand or any other uh issue here before we uh wrap up for today if you want to get

01:25:24.200 into anyone want to get in touch with me german rudolph.com is my own site you had it up just briefly

01:25:30.520 as a contact page you can see how how you can get in touch there uh and and if you want to donate

01:25:38.520 support me in any way it has a pay and donate page you can find out how you can chip in

01:25:43.720 and there's always a link somewhere to the encyclopedia for people who are interested in that

01:25:49.000 i saw people some people were in chat were talking about pdf uh versions you have both right you have

01:25:53.720 uh epub and pdf and a hard hard copy right of most books is that correct yes uh on the on the sales

01:26:02.520 website we just saw books are offered in in various formats you can have them as hard copy as

01:26:07.400 pdf or as as epub and some even as is an audiobook um and when it comes to the holocaust handbook series

01:26:16.680 uh the the hard-hitting research series they come all with three pdfs and epubs they can all be

01:26:24.120 downloaded from the dedicated website holocausthandbooks.com so yeah you see there it comes in various formats yeah

01:26:31.240 there you go right there folks not every book but many of them do come in different options there

01:26:35.960 audio paperback and of course ebook either as pdf or e-pub if you prefer that on your uh tablet

01:26:42.120 reader and stuff like that all right very good i got mp3 yes mp3 for the audio very very good we got

01:26:49.000 two uh huge super chats here as well from uh mycroft wins thank you so much sir i appreciate that

01:26:54.520 uh greatly cheers henrik he says first and then says never get rattled uh that's correct never get

01:26:59.720 rattled uh keep moving slow and steady that's what does it thank you so much sir i can't i can't uh

01:27:04.280 thank you enough for that that's uh that's tremendous you're helping to keep the lights on over here as

01:27:08.440 well thank you so much sir uh okay um yeah i think we'll wrap up right there then awesome to see you

01:27:14.920 again gurmar thank you for coming on and uh again we'll refer people to uh the publisher website

01:27:20.360 armreg.co.uk if you want to go straight there uh and of course you also have gurmar rudolph.com

01:27:27.960 all right good stuff good having you back thank you appreciate your time

01:27:33.400 much appreciate it awesome all right we'll we'll talk again keep up the good work obviously we need

01:27:37.480 people like you out there chipping away and uh slow and steady how long have you been doing this for

01:27:41.320 now it was like three decades yeah since 1991 90 90 90 91 i got involved so that's uh almost 35 years

01:27:54.920 now yeah fantastic all right thank you gurmar we appreciate your work and uh yeah you're a real

01:27:59.160 hero for being out there talking about these kinds of things and digging into this kind of stuff that

01:28:03.160 most people don't but at the end of the day you know they're like that there's the stuff that we can

01:28:06.600 pull out from the work that you do uh to understand the situation better and put it in context too of

01:28:11.880 of how we are in the situation that we are right now is vital so thank you gurmar for your work we

01:28:16.440 appreciate it greatly awesome thank you thank you appreciate it all right guys that's it for today

01:28:22.280 then we're going to be back with more here soon obviously we do have uh i think sam parker is going

01:28:26.680 to join us thursday in studio uh he's uh around these parks uh parts then so tune in for that we

01:28:32.760 we haven't set a time yet i think around 2 p.m pacific so uh 5 p.m eastern something like that

01:28:38.360 uh which is 10 p.m central european time because the time uh difference is a little bit off until

01:28:43.400 european set back their uh daylight savings time issue there but uh tune in for that thursday we

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Red Ice TV - March 18, 2025

ICE To Deport Critics Of Israel？ - Germar Rudolf

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