Red Ice TV - March 08, 2024


If 'White Rural Rage' Only Was A Thing


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6 minutes

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155.25455

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1,043

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112

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9

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MSNBC's Morning Joe hosts Mika Brzezinski and Alex Blumberg are joined by political scientist Tom Schaller and writer Paul Waldman to discuss their new book, White Rural Rage: The Threat to American Democracy.

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00:00:00.000 And now for the real problem in the world.
00:00:03.760 White rural rage. 0.63
00:00:05.700 That's right.
00:00:06.640 MSNBC tops themselves.
00:00:09.620 I mean, it's not really topping.
00:00:11.000 They've done this for a while now.
00:00:12.380 They're not topping themselves with this.
00:00:13.700 But it's the continued relentless attack on people.
00:00:19.100 When they're in the cities, it's wrong.
00:00:20.480 When they're in political leadership, it's wrong.
00:00:22.640 When they're in positions of power at corporations, it's wrong.
00:00:24.980 Now they're just being rural, presumably backward than out in nowhere. 1.00
00:00:30.120 Bothering anybody, it's still a problem. 0.99
00:00:31.660 It's a threat to democracy, in fact.
00:00:32.640 Absolutely.
00:00:33.220 In fact, we should prevent them from voting.
00:00:36.440 And we should put them somewhere.
00:00:37.580 Maybe in work camps.
00:00:39.780 Anyway, here's Brzezinski's daughter here.
00:00:42.080 Joining us now, professor of political science at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, Tom Schaller.
00:00:47.660 And journalist and opinion writer, Paul Waldman.
00:00:49.980 Their new book, Out Tomorrow, is entitled White Rural Rage.
00:00:55.300 The Threat to American Democracy.
00:00:58.480 Black urban rage. 0.96
00:00:59.600 How about that?
00:01:00.940 That's your threat to America.
00:01:02.920 Nope, that's fine.
00:01:04.200 See, because that's their soldiers.
00:01:06.560 Peaceful country white folk and their vote is a threat because they might vote for Trump.
00:01:13.240 The bar is so low with these people that basically they will probably try to criminalize people that vote for Trump.
00:01:22.200 That's how low the bar is now, essentially.
00:01:23.860 Why are white rural voters a threat to democracy at this point?
00:01:27.560 You would think, as we pointed out.
00:01:29.280 Seriously asking this question.
00:01:30.980 Seriously asking a question.
00:01:32.400 Do you see how quickly, though, it went from being something with rage, presuming violence, to just voters?
00:01:38.240 Yeah.
00:01:38.660 They're just voters now.
00:01:39.720 What is the danger with voting white people?
00:01:43.440 Well, we don't like how they vote.
00:01:45.900 So that's just it, right?
00:01:46.980 That's it.
00:01:47.280 Yeah.
00:01:47.560 Joe Biden's background and Donald Trump's that the opposite would be true.
00:01:52.480 I mean, we lay out the fourfold interconnected threat that white rural voters pose to the country. 1.00
00:01:57.360 First of all, and we show 30 polls and national studies to demonstrate this.
00:02:01.300 So we provide the receipts in chapter 6.
00:02:03.160 They have data to back this up.
00:02:05.300 This is very dangerous.
00:02:07.700 Okay, geek.
00:02:08.920 They're the most racist, xenophobic, anti-
00:02:11.700 That's all he's got.
00:02:12.100 There you go.
00:02:12.700 That's his four points.
00:02:13.500 I wish that was true.
00:02:14.120 I know.
00:02:14.480 If they were racist, we would never have ended up in the place of where we are right now.
00:02:19.040 Racist, xenophobic, homophobic, anti-Semitic.
00:02:22.180 That's his four points, right?
00:02:24.220 Probably.
00:02:24.700 That's what the other two was.
00:02:25.580 Immigrant, anti-gay, geodemographic group in the country.
00:02:28.720 Second, they're the most conspiracist group.
00:02:30.240 QAnon support and subscribers, election denialism, COVID denialism, scientific skepticism, Obama
00:02:37.040 birtherism, anti-democratic sentiments.
00:02:40.300 They don't believe in an independent press, free speech, they're most likely to say-
00:02:43.440 Well, independent press?
00:02:44.300 You people are the ones-
00:02:46.420 They're the free speech?
00:02:46.840 They're the ones who don't believe in an independent press and are censoring and wanting everyone
00:02:51.260 banned.
00:02:52.340 That's ridiculous.
00:02:53.980 You have to understand.
00:02:55.240 Yes, projection.
00:02:56.020 As if MSNBC is independent press to CNN.
00:02:59.700 They're for free speech now.
00:03:01.540 Their accusations are admissions.
00:03:05.080 That's what it is.
00:03:05.340 They should be able to act unilaterally without any checks from Congress or the courts or their
00:03:09.460 bureaucracy.
00:03:10.580 They're also the most strongly white nationalists and white Christian nationalists.
00:03:14.380 And four-
00:03:14.700 I wish that-
00:03:16.280 Man, I wish that was true.
00:03:17.660 No, unfortunately, much of what you get from the boomer, right, is this-
00:03:23.020 The Zionist. 0.85
00:03:23.640 Yeah, the Zionist, and then they're like, you know, MLK enthusiasts, and they're like, you 0.90
00:03:28.820 know, we should race mix.
00:03:30.420 There's white people that see what's going on, but they don't call themselves white nationalists
00:03:34.380 or Christian nationalists.
00:03:36.300 I love how they just put Christian nationalism.
00:03:38.640 It's-
00:03:39.420 They know that it's the majority of Christians in America are white, so now just Christian 1.00
00:03:43.440 nationalism is basically white nationalism, you know?
00:03:45.840 Gee, I wonder why white people are angry.
00:03:48.200 Could it be because you're just attacking their existence in the countryside and the fact that
00:03:52.040 they have a vote?
00:03:53.220 Well, it's like they poke, and they poke, and they prod, and they bash, and they shame,
00:03:58.300 and they poke more, and they, you know, slap them in the face, and they're like, what are
00:04:02.560 you- they're angry.
00:04:04.500 What are you so angry about?
00:04:06.340 You know, kind of thing.
00:04:06.960 It's like, you've done nothing?
00:04:08.640 You have done nothing to these people?
00:04:10.400 What about white liberal psychosis?
00:04:12.320 How about that book?
00:04:13.160 Yep.
00:04:14.060 They are most likely to excuse or justify violence as an acceptable alternative to peaceful
00:04:19.500 public discourse.
00:04:20.240 So, you mentioned a lot of negative-
00:04:21.740 Because BLM.
00:04:22.180 Because 2020, because riots, yeah, exactly.
00:04:25.320 I know, it's funny, it's- every time it's the same thing.
00:04:27.860 Whoa, dude.
00:04:28.960 All the charges made against their enemies is things that they engage in every single
00:04:34.000 time.
00:04:34.300 Amazing.
00:04:34.800 Yep.
00:04:35.400 Now, I do think that this is not a permanent condition.
00:04:38.700 The craziness really comes from, almost more from cultural, ethnic issues than anything 0.99
00:04:45.640 else, because you have a- a lot of the real craziness comes, if you like, from
00:04:52.160 rural white Americans who feel that they're losing their country, they're losing ownership of the country.
00:04:58.940 And they're right.
00:04:59.780 I mean, we are becoming more diverse, more multicultural.
00:05:02.320 And they are, in the end, they are not the future.
00:05:07.840 In the end, the power they still have will go away.
00:05:11.040 But it's a very difficult time until then.
00:05:14.200 So, the future is Mayor de Blasio of New York, but Ted Cruz of Texas is still out there with
00:05:23.080 the ability to do a lot of damage.
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