Red Ice TV - March 21, 2025


Israel’s Fingerprints Are All Over The JFK Assassination


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46 minutes

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Summary

In the wake of the release of the JFK Assassination files, conspiracy theories have swirled around the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy and the possible involvement of the Israeli intelligence agency, the Mossad, as well as the CIA. In this episode of the Stu Peters Show, host Stu and guest host Henrik of Red Ice discuss the possibility that Israel played a role in the JFK assassination.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the Stu Peters Show. I am Lana alongside Henrik of Red Ice and
00:00:12.800 we are guest hosting for Stu while he's away. The hot topic, of course, is JFK. Who killed
00:00:18.360 him and why? This has been the subject of countless movies and books while the JFK files
00:00:23.500 were released. 64,000 pages, some unredacted, some that have already been out for decades
00:00:30.000 and other details that were known but not confirmed until now. And more will be coming
00:00:36.020 out in the coming days. The notion of a mysterious curse on the Kennedy family is an obvious
00:00:42.540 smokescreen. In the 70s, the mainstream establishment played a major role in steering conspiracy
00:00:48.320 theorists toward the CIA while avoiding any hint of Israeli involvement. The unsolved
00:00:54.520 murders of JFK and his two legitimate heirs, his younger brother Robert and his only son
00:00:59.640 John, require a more rational explanation. And that explanation is clearly the deep state
00:01:06.120 of Israel. Now, Henrik, it wasn't just the CIA, but let's begin talking about the CIA and then
00:01:12.320 get into the Israel connections. Well, when you talk about the CIA, you really talk about
00:01:15.940 the Mossad. And that's partially what I think some of these documents have revealed over
00:01:20.020 the last couple of days here. Essentially, there's no distinction between the two. And
00:01:24.660 it looks like actually CIA is doing the bidding of the Mossad. And in fact, kind of the CIA chief
00:01:31.940 counterintelligence officer, James Jesus Angleton, who, of course, was there at the time when JFK
00:01:37.740 was assassinated, seemed to cover a tremendous amount for Israel and for Jewish interest, essentially.
00:01:45.420 Right. I mean, Stu Peters linked up a couple of examples here in the documents have been coming
00:01:48.920 out. And there's so many of them. We should mention that real quick, too. There's almost
00:01:53.060 2000 PDFs. So this will take a little bit of time to kind of weed through what's new, what's old.
00:01:58.380 But I've seen some things resurfacing again and kind of gaining traction and popularity
00:02:02.700 because, of course, now there's buzz around this issue again. So this is a net positive,
00:02:07.100 I think. Right. But simple matters such as this, where basically the Israeli intelligence
00:02:12.460 services mentions of Israel in these documents have been redacted. Now, these are unredacted,
00:02:19.620 obviously, which is good. But previously, these things have been redacted. Why? Why are they
00:02:23.560 trying to cover this up? Why is this so important? You know, there's covering up their Israel first
00:02:28.520 agenda within U.S. politics and agencies. That's what it looks like to me. So most of these have
00:02:34.100 this. There's no no objection to these being released. Only the these needs to be redacted.
00:02:41.480 And of course, those are circled in red, different mentions of Mossad, Israel and so forth. Right.
00:02:47.380 But it's very interesting with the James Jesus Angleton. Right. And here he actually is with the
00:02:53.160 head of the global operations of the Mossad, the Israeli Secret Service. Looks like one of us.
00:02:59.620 And of course, Angleton has a Mexican mother. Yes. And we'll talk more about that later. What
00:03:04.620 what his what his interest in this is really it's very it's curious, but there might be some
00:03:09.700 explanations. Right. But Mayor Amit, they're photographed here in 1966. So this is a few years
00:03:15.600 after the JFK assassination. But their relationship continued and they were on very good terms. If you
00:03:21.020 read some kind of official accounts, they're like, well, it was kind of strained at times and
00:03:26.160 difficult and whatnot. But most most of these things that have played out in any type of
00:03:31.480 disagreement between the CIA and Israel have, as far as I can tell, for the most part, benefited
00:03:36.580 Israel and their objectives. And that's because the people inside of the CIA and other agencies
00:03:42.180 in the US, as we know, they are they're aboard there. Some people call them moles or whatnot.
00:03:47.200 Here's a very interesting case of the Israel Israeli account, because James Jesus Angleton became
00:03:54.140 head of the Israeli, you know, kind of the colored office or the Israeli account is one one reference
00:04:01.300 they use for it as well. And when he did that, of course, then he did completely everything they
00:04:06.820 wanted. It's very interesting. They mentioned Pollard here in the beginning. And of course,
00:04:10.080 he wasn't pardoned by Trump. Some people have said that, but it's actually Jonathan Pollard's
00:04:14.460 handler that was pardoned at the time. But Pollard's his parole was up. Essentially, he came to Israel.
00:04:21.020 He was welcomed by Netanyahu. He, of course, famously gave away a lot of these intelligence
00:04:25.720 intelligence secrets as he was working in the Navy to not only Israel, but also many of them
00:04:32.020 ended up in the hands of the Soviet Union. And he claimed that he did this because, well,
00:04:36.980 American intelligence inside of their their anti-Semitism is rampant and they're not doing
00:04:42.020 what's best for Israel. So he decided to, you know, give them all this information. And then he gave
00:04:46.760 some of it to the Soviet Union in exchange for Soviet Jews so they could emigrate to Israel.
00:04:52.360 So this is like an ethnic interest issue all along the way. Yeah. And of course, Kennedy was in conflict
00:04:57.540 with the state of Israel. He didn't support them developing nuclear weapons. Right. So there's
00:05:02.120 reasons for them to not like JFK. He stood in the way of their Israel agenda. Absolutely. Pollard said
00:05:08.960 all of us Jews have dual loyalty, whether they know it or not. And that's I think that's true.
00:05:13.500 Many of them, they claim they're not pro-Zionist or pro-Israel. They absolutely are.
00:05:18.100 You don't have to be in the Mossad to do work for the Mossad. You know what I mean?
00:05:21.700 Well, that's just it that they have handlers. And of course, if they don't have the blackmailing
00:05:25.080 thing, which is a completely different ballgame altogether, they play they play dirty. No doubt
00:05:30.240 about it. It says here after they go into Pollard a little bit, they talk about the strenuous
00:05:34.160 relationships. Right. For 35 years, the Israeli accounts have been the main channel through which
00:05:39.040 the CIA and the Israeli intelligence services Mossad have exchanged classified data on Soviet
00:05:44.980 espionage activities because the Soviet Union was the big boogeyman, apparently. Right.
00:05:48.740 They kind of united around that. But then it turns out, oh, no, actually, we're giving the
00:05:52.820 Soviet Union information as well. So we're fooling you while we claim that we're your ally,
00:05:57.680 essentially. One account from many that they interviewed that were part of creating this
00:06:03.600 document, the Israeli account, said everything in the relationship between intelligence services
00:06:08.720 is like a double edged sword. On one hand, there's the friendly aspect. But on the other,
00:06:13.200 there's the counterintelligence aspect in which you try to get as much as you can and keep others
00:06:19.240 from getting things from you. So despite the fact that it was this Soviet Union issue, you,
00:06:24.880 of course, have famous cases where like the Rosenbergs, for example, also gave information
00:06:29.520 to the Soviet Union. Now, they were executed eventually. They were like, you know, communist
00:06:33.360 spies or whatever. But I think they were Jewish first. They weren't communist first. They were
00:06:37.320 Jewish first and whatever, you know, benefited Israel, essentially. Here's another very interesting
00:06:41.940 quote as well regarding who has provided potential money for all of this as well. The different groups
00:06:50.020 that were involved at the time. There seems to be some particular activity in Chicago at the time,
00:06:56.220 even though some of the early predecessors to APAC had a presence in Chicago. But check out this
00:07:04.100 quote here. This is from Homer S. Equvarria, I think you pronounce that, a Cuban Antro Castro activist
00:07:09.940 with ties to militant revolutionary groups. He told an ATF informant on November 21st, 1963 in Chicago,
00:07:18.480 quote, we now have plenty of money. Our new backers are Jews as soon as we or they take care of Kennedy.
00:07:28.760 And of course, he was assassinated literally the day after that. Right. So here's a close up of the
00:07:33.540 document. They're highlighted. And there's some people saying, oh, this is fake. It's fraudulent.
00:07:37.700 No, there's an archived version that's been out of this. That's been out for a while.
00:07:41.800 For a long time. Yes. No, absolutely. It's the. Well, it's just a it's just a quote from somebody.
00:07:47.620 It bears no, you know, no weight, essentially. But this is not true either. Obviously,
00:07:52.700 this was at the time taken seriously and they knew about the person. This article talks about this.
00:08:00.580 So basically, you know, taking care of Kennedy, whatever. And eventually this piece of information,
00:08:04.760 which they had on AirVac and, you know, Mosley as well as one of them, an ATF informant who reported
00:08:12.260 this conversation to the Secret Service. And eventually the Secret Service, that investigation
00:08:17.840 was taken over by the FBI. And once it ends up in their hands, as it says here, they quickly dropped
00:08:22.400 this case and just left it and said, let's not pretend about anything and just walk away like they
00:08:27.700 have done so many times. Right. So this is the same old story, essentially. Now, there's the question of
00:08:33.860 James. I think it's Jesus because of his Mexican mom, right? Yeah. Who is this guy? Jesus Angleton.
00:08:40.100 It's very interesting. There are actually memorials to Angleton in Israel that are dedicated by
00:08:47.760 they were dedicated at the time by high officials in Israel. One stone outside of Angleton's beloved
00:08:53.360 oasis, the King David Hotel, actually has an inscription on it that says, in memory of a dear friend.
00:09:00.880 It's an interesting piece here, The Goy and the Golem, James Angleton and the Rise of Israel.
00:09:07.260 And he talks a lot about this. It's from a book called The Ghost, The Secret Life of CIA Spymaster,
00:09:13.320 James Jesus Angleton. It says that Angleton was the leading architect of America's strategic
00:09:18.040 relationship with Israel that endures and dominates the region to this day. More than any other man,
00:09:24.200 the longtime chief of the U.S. counterintelligence made possible Israel's shift from, quote, an embattled
00:09:31.280 settler state into a strategic ally of the world's great superpower. Of course, we know they're not a
00:09:38.840 very good ally, as we've talked about so many times. But Angleton, it says here, did so chiefly by
00:09:45.160 bearing an effort in the U.S. intelligence establishment to question Israel's acquisition
00:09:49.640 of nuclear weapons in the 1960s? Angleton's loyalty to Israel betrayed U.S. policy on an epic scale,
00:09:58.620 Morley writes. Instead of supporting U.S. nuclear security policy, he ignored it, right? And there's so
00:10:05.020 much in this book that we could pull out. But there is the question of his mother, which I think is a valid
00:10:09.560 question to ask, right? He was actually born in Boise, Idaho, but his mom was Mexican. His dad, I think,
00:10:16.700 was kind of Anglo. But Moreno is her last name. Her name is, the full name is Carmen Mercedes Moreno.
00:10:23.460 And of course, as we know, Moreno can be a Sephardic Jewish surname. And we're raising this
00:10:28.020 because we're wondering, what did he get out of this? What's his drive? What is the obsession with
00:10:33.560 Israel? Right. Exactly. And so the question is, well, maybe they had something on him. Maybe he was
00:10:38.420 Epstein'd. Maybe there's a blackmailing type of scheme going on way back in the day. We don't know.
00:10:45.000 Maybe there's another reason. Maybe this was religious. Yeah, it's very religious. He could
00:10:49.380 be convicted. It could be. He believes in it. So, you know, Moreno is another name that was used
00:10:55.220 as well. And that was a Christianized Jew or a Moor as well. These were common names for so-called
00:11:00.920 cryptos or they converted or whatnot. So it's possible that his mother was this and that he was aware of
00:11:06.440 this. And so on some level, he did have or agreed with those type of ethnic interests that he
00:11:11.860 encountered when he worked together or for, I should say, behalf of Israel and Mossad, essentially.
00:11:18.760 So basically, when you implicate the CIA, you also implicate the Mossad. There's no distinction
00:11:23.100 between the two. And they seem to have gotten their claws into the right people at the right time
00:11:28.680 in order to get us to this position where we are now. JFK is a linchpin in that. So let's talk about
00:11:35.360 what he was doing at that time. Yeah. So JFK was basically pushing for an inspection of the
00:11:42.860 Dimona nuclear facility in Israel at the time. Right. Israel is famously not part of the non-proliferation
00:11:51.160 treaty. Right. The NPT. And has not actually accepted the IAEs, the International Atomic Energy
00:11:57.040 Agency, safeguards on some of its principal nuclear activities. And so we can play a clip here, which
00:12:03.820 is very interesting, where they talk about Ben-Gurion, how he was pressured by JFK. And Ben, of course,
00:12:11.540 he was the national founder and first prime minister of the state of Israel. That's right. Exactly.
00:12:16.240 And so Martin Sandler, another Jewish guy who wrote, who was the editor of the Letters of John F.
00:12:22.360 Kennedy, talked about this and the fact that this, he claims this led to the resignation
00:12:26.960 of Ben-Gurion. But it was almost like a vengeance tactics over this whole thing of the Dimona
00:12:31.660 nuclear reactor. He was very skeptical about this. And this is one thing, by the way, there's many
00:12:36.220 things that JFK did. But this seems to be a big one. In fact, there was inspections that the US did
00:12:42.340 at the time at Dimona, where the Israelis there had set up like a fake control room and things like
00:12:49.260 this, as a theater, as a set, as a stage, in order to divert anybody from understanding what
00:12:55.080 actually was going on at that place. But here's Martin Sandler. Listen to this.
00:12:59.320 There's a very surprising series of letters between Kennedy and David Ben-Gurion, not only
00:13:06.120 the prime minister, premier of Israel, but the founder of Israel, in which they're very angry
00:13:13.140 letters, in which Kennedy is saying to Ben-Gurion, I'm killing myself trying to get a nuclear test
00:13:21.140 ban treaty. I've even got De Gaulle on board, and that's impossible. And you keep testing
00:13:26.840 in Dimona. You've got to stop. And Ben-Gurion, thank you, in so many words says, it's easy for
00:13:36.380 you to say, sitting in Hyannisport. I'm sitting with the Arabs all around me, and you want me
00:13:40.920 to give up nuclear testing. And Kennedy threatens him. And he threatens him in such a way that Ben-Gurion
00:13:47.100 resigns. And I will tell you that I found articles, not in any crackpot publications, but in very
00:13:56.400 sophisticated publications saying, forget Lyndon Johnson, forget the CIA, forget Fidel Castro,
00:14:03.880 the Mossad killed Kennedy because they were so upset over what he did to Ben-Gurion. So, you know,
00:14:09.320 we've got a few little bombshells we throw in there, not proven. Yes, I hear you.
00:14:14.760 Yeah, how about that, huh? Yeah. Interesting. A little bit of a revelation. These things come
00:14:19.700 from many different directions, and there's enough clues and whispers about this and that. But of
00:14:24.460 course, it hasn't helped that they've covered this up so much along the way. And when you start
00:14:27.840 redacting Israel, or Mossad, or Israeli, you know, intelligence services from these documents,
00:14:33.180 people are left wondering, like, who are we talking about here? Like, who are behind some of these
00:14:38.160 things? That's right. But hold that thought. We'll be back right after this break.
00:14:54.540 Welcome back. I'm Lana, along with Henrik, and we're filling in for Stu Peters, who is away. You
00:14:59.140 can find us at redice.tv, redicemembers.com, on X, Rumble, Bidshoot, Odyssey, and more. We produce
00:15:04.900 live streams, unique videos, and interviews. All right, where were we?
00:15:08.900 Yes, we're talking about the Daimona nuclear reactor, the inspections there, JFK's pushback
00:15:13.260 against us. He didn't want Israel to have nuclear weapons. That was just one of the things that he
00:15:17.280 did in order to, you know, arouse the anger of the Zionists in Israel at the time.
00:15:23.140 And, of course, the Federal Reserve, that has to be said. I mean...
00:15:26.060 Yeah, there's things there in terms of him going, taking away, actually, the silver backs,
00:15:32.540 I believe it was, and then going to green backs, and he wanted to gold-backed $2 bills.
00:15:37.740 We'll say what it was. I'm a little fuzzy on the exact history of that. But, yes, it was
00:15:41.420 monetary reasons. There were nuclear activity when it comes to Israel. He wanted to lessen
00:15:46.520 the impact, of course, of the Federal Reserve and things like this, right? And then, of
00:15:49.700 course, you have the other issue, which I thought we'd look at next, which has to do
00:15:52.060 with his brother, Robert F. Kennedy, who, of course, also was assassinated later by the
00:15:58.320 usual suspect. And he was also not a supporter of Israel. And one of the reasons people think
00:16:04.100 that it makes sense that he was assassinated is because he was winning the primaries, so
00:16:09.260 he would most likely be the next Democratic nominee at that time, and then he would become
00:16:14.200 president. And so, again, he would be blocking, you know, these Israeli interests. And he can
00:16:19.680 open up an investigation into his brother's death once he became president, where he would
00:16:25.620 find out about the Israeli deep state within America. Yeah, because back in 1962, about a year
00:16:32.940 or so before JFK was assassinated, Robert F. Kennedy was working as the attorney general under his
00:16:39.280 brother, the president JFK at the time. And he actually was one who pushed to get the American
00:16:46.880 Zionist Council to register under the FARA Act, right, the Foreign Agents Registrations Act,
00:16:53.360 essentially. The Israeli Lobby Archive has a detailed kind of timeline on this, and they talked
00:16:58.920 about how many millions that they were pouring in at the time in lobbying activity, which is one of
00:17:04.580 the reasons why RFK was concerned about this, essentially. And by the way, the American Zionist
00:17:12.240 Council, they did eventually change name. I think they became the ZOA, the Zionist Organization of
00:17:17.400 America. But of course, it's kind of an umbrella group, and AIPAC was under that. That was a parent
00:17:23.180 organization. And so AIPAC is kind of involved in this at the same time. And if they've gone through
00:17:28.100 with this, there would have been questions about other type of lobbying groups as well, by the way.
00:17:32.960 And, you know, be they Israeli or Jewish or whatnot. But this was something that was like a step too far
00:17:38.320 for them. So granted, it was Robert F. Kennedy that pushed this. But this, you know, regardless,
00:17:43.680 it was under the auspices of, you know, JFK. And I think they saw them eventually probably just as a,
00:17:50.820 as they see, an ethnic threat. This was a family. They saw them as together. They are not good for
00:17:57.280 us. They're not good for Israel. They're not good for the Jews. And so these, the Kennedy clan is a
00:18:02.420 direct to us. Yeah, it's true. I mean, because even JFK Jr. in the 90s, he started talking about,
00:18:08.420 you know, Zionist Jewish conspiracies. And so like, oh, well, that guy's got to go. And then there was
00:18:13.820 this mysterious plane crash, right? In Martha's Vineyard, where his pregnant wife and his sister-in-law
00:18:19.880 also died. It's like they couldn't have that line existing at all. RFK Jr. today, I mean, he is just
00:18:28.140 not in line with the Kennedys on this Israel thing, unfortunately. He's not the same guy.
00:18:33.020 He's not the same. Rabbi Shmuley is following him along, and he's making sure that he, they have
00:18:37.240 him on a leash, I think, right? That's why the HHS immediately did that, like, anti-Semitism
00:18:41.860 statement, how that's a health threat, essentially. It was like, what does this got to do with the
00:18:45.260 health, human and health services department? But anyway, there, there we go. Something with
00:18:49.040 Zionism and anti-Semitism. But back to this issue here. Even Donald Rumsfeld actually sent a letter
00:18:56.460 at the time to Robert F. Kennedy to kind of casually warn him that this is concerning,
00:19:02.720 right? This is July 15th, 1963, addressed to Robert F. Kennedy, as you said. And Rumsfeld,
00:19:09.580 Donald Rumsfeld here, one of the, you know, neocons. He was part of the, you know, Iraq invasion
00:19:14.160 under George Bush and all that stuff. We know who he is, right? Several thoughtful and valued
00:19:18.880 constituents have expressed their concern to me over a report in the June 28th issue of the
00:19:25.020 Chicago, here we go with the Chicago, right, edition of the Wall Street Journal, which indicated
00:19:29.600 that the determination by the Justice Department of the question of the registration of the American
00:19:35.880 Zionist Council as an agent of the Israeli government will depend upon, quote, risk of
00:19:42.060 offending Jewish opinion in the United States. And look at us now. Look at, look at what our greatest
00:19:49.080 ally has given us today. Yes, I would greatly appreciate your comments on this statement and
00:19:54.660 also report as to the policy the Department of Justice will follow in determining this question.
00:20:01.260 This is the prime issue of many of these American politicians for some interesting reason.
00:20:06.340 Numerous Jewish journalists have detailed Lyndon B. Johnson's personal and emotional connection
00:20:12.580 to Israel, confirmed by historians and interviews with his wife, family members, and political
00:20:17.440 associates. In 2013, Associated Press reported about newly released tapes from Johnson's White
00:20:23.420 House office that pointed out that under Johnson, the United States became Israel's chief diplomatic
00:20:29.440 ally and primary arms supplier. An article from the Five Towns Jewish Times says our first
00:20:37.160 Jewish president, Lyndon Johnson, and concludes that President Johnson firmly pointed American policy
00:20:43.520 in a pro-Israel direction. The article also mentions that research into Johnson's personal
00:20:49.820 history indicates that he inherited his concern for the Jewish people from his family. His aunt,
00:20:55.680 Jesse Johnson Hatcher, was a major influence on him, and she was a member of the Zionist Organization
00:21:01.420 of America. And in additional note, the line of Jewish mothers, they say, can be traced back three
00:21:08.080 generations in Lyndon Johnson's family tree. There is no doubt that he was Jewish. Now, this was in a
00:21:14.420 Jewish publication. Also, as a young boy, Lyndon watched his politically active grandfather seek
00:21:20.580 clemency for the Jewish pedophile murderer, Leo Frank. Yuck. And soon after taking office in the aftermath
00:21:28.780 of JFK's assassination in 1963, Johnson told an Israeli diplomat, you have lost a very great friend,
00:21:35.800 but you have found a better one. Now, whatever was the reason of his loyalty to Israel, it's because
00:21:42.660 of him that Israel could continue its military nuke program and acquire its first atomic bomb around
00:21:48.080 1965. And thanks to JFK's death, Israel was also able to carry out its plan to annex Palestinian
00:21:54.300 territories beyond the boundaries imposed by the UN partition plan. By leaning on the Pentagon and
00:22:00.740 the CIA, Johnson intensified the Cold War and created the climate of tension which Israel needed
00:22:06.160 in order to demonize Egyptian President Nasser and project the false idea that they are our greatest
00:22:12.340 ally in the Middle East. Yeah, Lyndon Johnson, he was a pervert and he was a crook in many ways. He was a
00:22:19.760 turncoat. He took over the White House in 1963 and he became so unpopular that he retired
00:22:26.200 in 1968. So I think it's safe to say that JFK was assassinated for Israel. So prior to Lyndon Johnson,
00:22:38.560 there wasn't this crazy obsession with Israel all the time in American politics. But following
00:22:44.080 JFK's assassination and when Lyndon took over, there was this obsession with Israel. And of course,
00:22:48.980 the civil rights movement and all that kicked off. Yeah, I mean, religiously, they had planted the
00:22:54.660 Schofield Bible before that. These were in political evangelical circles, obviously, but this
00:22:59.480 is beginning to kind of take a front facing direction in politics at that time, essentially. I mean,
00:23:07.080 it was always, always, not always there, but it's been there for a long time. But now it's beginning
00:23:12.940 to rear its ugly head. And now they're forced to do showing kind of their dirty tricks openly.
00:23:18.700 And of course, they're, you know, they're so good in the sense of what they do,
00:23:23.260 that they have control of some of these individuals that keep covering, covering for them. But it's
00:23:27.740 very interesting. You brought this up here, right? Lyndon Johnson, his potential connections
00:23:32.140 through his mom's line, then? Yes. You know, to Jews. And these are Jewish historians,
00:23:37.100 and you know that they really check this stuff out. Well, they do. Oh, they study all of these
00:23:41.860 things. They have a very astute historical understanding. I mean, that would explain more
00:23:46.320 of his obsession and why his aunt was in the Zionist org of America and his grandfather trying
00:23:53.140 to bail out Leo Frank, like all these things. Otherwise, why the obsession? I don't understand.
00:23:58.420 Even if it was not, I think what that points to is early blackmail operations. You basically have
00:24:03.940 to think Epstein. They Epstein people. And the question is that we don't have any answers to
00:24:08.780 right now is how far back does that go? Who did that originally? Was it that they filmed someone
00:24:13.780 in some hotel room here or there? Like they managed to get their claws in these people. They have their
00:24:18.300 vices, these dirty politicians. They're, you know, they're just, they think of themselves,
00:24:22.440 not the country or the agenda of their people, obviously, right? Unlike these guys seem to do.
00:24:27.660 But yeah, Lyndon Johnson, Israel has no better friend. Historians generally regard Johnson as
00:24:32.680 the president's most uniformly friendly to Israel, which is very, very interesting. There's a couple
00:24:39.160 of things here we can pull out as well. Do you remember this? When shortly after the assassination,
00:24:45.020 I mean, literally within what, an hour, I forget how quickly this happened. But when LBJ is sworn in
00:24:51.420 on Air Force One, he turns towards Congressman Albert Thomas and make this interesting wink,
00:25:00.280 basically like, we got him kind of thing. It's very interesting. Now, he had actually a connection
00:25:05.880 to the Nuclear Atomic Commission, I think it was. He was on the board of that. Again, I'm not sure.
00:25:12.440 Is that a Dimona connection? Nuclear? I don't know. But regardless, there are some people that knew.
00:25:17.100 And of course, here's in front of the distraught wife here, right? Jackie Kennedy, you can see the
00:25:21.580 anguish on her face. And he's very happy that he's being sworn in. And so they took him out and
00:25:26.400 they got LBJ in place. And of course, the rest is history. It's not that things weren't bad before
00:25:31.920 that, but it really starts collapsing at that point. I know that JFK introduced, you know,
00:25:36.620 the Civil Rights Act or whatnot, but LBJ, you know, he's really the one who kind of took credit for that,
00:25:41.500 right? Yeah, he signed it. He took credit for it. I mean, yeah, we're, I mean, JFK wasn't perfect.
00:25:47.360 Obviously, there's things that we're going to, we can criticize about his politics, right? But on
00:25:52.380 why was he assassinated? Clearly, it's the issue of Israel. Yeah. And as I said, think of Epstein,
00:25:59.740 right? This is what we have to keep in mind that we are dealing with a group that necessarily don't
00:26:07.740 have the morals that we do. They don't think like we do. They act very, very differently. It's a
00:26:12.880 ruthless, ethnic, you know, interest and struggle for them. And they're historically very astute of
00:26:19.520 this, as I said. I mean, this goes back to like, they have a grief, grief against Romans still to
00:26:23.660 this day. They have a grief against anybody who they happen to, you know, dislike or stands in their
00:26:29.020 way, essentially. You know, America was a problem for a while because they didn't let them in. And then
00:26:33.560 after Germany, obviously, that's a big problem. So they lie, they steal, they cheat, they blackmail,
00:26:41.060 and yes, they kill, they assassinate in order to get achieved what they want to achieve. This is part
00:26:46.580 of the repertoire. And if they can't do that, I think they resort to blackmailing, like they did with
00:26:53.260 Epstein, essentially. Yeah. In fact, we could play another clip here. This is Truman. And of course,
00:26:59.240 he had a lot of problems, too. But even him showing what a dilemma this was at the time for
00:27:04.240 them with Israel and Palestine. The American population, they didn't want to get involved.
00:27:10.120 They didn't care. You know, now here we are. Fast forward. You know, it's just that's the obsession
00:27:15.240 on the left and the right. Right. Israel. Yeah. Let's play the clip. We had several other people in
00:27:21.180 the country, even among the Jews, the Zionists particularly, who were against anything that is to
00:27:26.160 be done if they couldn't have the whole of Palestine and everything handed to them on a
00:27:30.740 silver plate so they wouldn't have to do anything. It couldn't be done. We had to take it in small
00:27:35.360 doses. You can't move five or six million people out of a country and fill it up with five or six
00:27:42.060 million more and expect both sets of them to be pleased. 49. But don't think that decision to
00:27:48.320 recognize Israel is an easy one. I had to make a compromise with the Arabs and divide Palestine.
00:27:54.640 The Jews wanted to chase all the Arabs into the Tigris and Euphrates River and the Arabs want to chase
00:28:01.340 all the Jews into the Red Sea. And I was trying what I was trying to do was to find a homeland for
00:28:06.880 the Jews and still be just for the Arabs. Do you know what he said there about they want to put them
00:28:11.660 into push them into the Arabs, that is into the Euphrates and Tigris? That's where that the Likud
00:28:17.740 Party's original slogan was actually from the river to the sea. Remember? Yes. And the response to that
00:28:24.480 was what pro-Palestinians picked up of like, from the river to the sea, we will be free.
00:28:29.180 Yeah. So that whole thing was actually initiated. That whole slogan was initiated by these crazy
00:28:34.000 Zionists, essentially. Yeah. But there's some people that claimed to Truman, too. Same thing
00:28:37.240 there, right? That they were blackmail techniques and they were going after him. And many of these
00:28:42.540 people didn't want to do their bidding, but they were forced to because now they were
00:28:46.240 personally compromised. They would have risked their family lives, their reputation. That's how
00:28:49.800 they do it in politics. Yeah. Exactly. Right? So yeah, this is essentially the control that they
00:28:56.720 have, right? Now, I want to mention, again, the context here a little bit, too, of some other things
00:29:01.560 around the JFK assassination. One of which, of course, is how this kind of comes together, right?
00:29:06.640 Abraham Zapruder, a Jewish immigrant from Ukraine at the time, unexpectedly just happened to capture
00:29:16.400 the shooting, right, of JFK. And of course, this was the redacted version of this was out for a long
00:29:23.740 time. And I forget how many years later the actual, you know, the gruesome footage was released where
00:29:29.560 you actually see his brains are blown out. And I don't even think we have to get into like, well,
00:29:34.020 the grassy knoll. Was it the driver who shot who was? I mean, that's interesting. And obviously,
00:29:38.800 that should be discussed. But all these moving parts around is what lays the puzzle and solves
00:29:45.280 the riddle of sorts to me, in a way, if you if you ask me. Yeah. And there's so many of these
00:29:49.320 people's involvements along the way. Let's take one more here, which of course, obviously, the guy who
00:29:54.740 shot him wasn't the mastermind. It's all the people behind the telling the guy to go do it. So we can,
00:30:00.440 you know, get in the weeds of how that shooting happened and who was it and who put him.
00:30:04.020 But it's more interesting of who put him in place. Why? Why? Yes. The more interesting part.
00:30:10.300 The other one, of course, is Jack Ruby, real name Jacob Leon Rubenstein, who, of course,
00:30:15.860 famously shot the patsy Lee Harvey Oswald before he could talk. Right. If he could testify and spill
00:30:22.200 the beans about everything and show the truth. Yeah. Rubenstein was Jewish after all. So there's
00:30:27.960 there's these right people at the right place at the right time. I don't buy the auto,
00:30:32.060 you know, the book depository, all this stuff. Right. The JFK film, even quick mention of that.
00:30:38.160 Oliver Stone directed it. Who funded it? Arnon Milsham, who is a literally an Israeli spy. He's
00:30:44.320 very active in Hollywood. Stone wanted a four and a half hour film with a potential budget of 40
00:30:50.920 million dollars. Double what Stone had agreed to with Warner Brothers. And by the way, the other guy in
00:30:55.840 Warner Brothers who said this is a great idea was Terry Semel, another Jewish guy. But this is why we don't hear
00:31:00.840 about the Israeli connection on all these countless JFK movies and books and all these,
00:31:06.360 you know, Jewish own publications. That's right. We never hear that. Right. So so Arnon Milsham,
00:31:11.500 the Israeli spy, eventually footed the bill essentially for this. Milsham was eager to work
00:31:15.900 on the project and launch his new company, Regency Enterprises, with a high profile film like JFK.
00:31:22.540 So Milsham made a deal with Warner Bros. to put up the money for the film. Stone managed to
00:31:27.100 pare down his initial revision, a 190 page draft down to a 156 page shooting script. So what
00:31:34.180 disappeared? What was there? And these guys come in and whoops, there you go.
00:31:38.360 They edit. Set time again. We'll be right back after this break.
00:31:41.900 And we're back. I'm Lana. Joining me is Henrik. We're filling in for Stu Peters, who is away.
00:31:51.720 Let's get back to our conversation on Israel.
00:31:54.720 Well, I want to mention that real quick, too, that you got to put Israel at that time in historical
00:32:00.780 context. You have to understand that this is a nation when JFK gets assassinated, that is what?
00:32:06.220 Not even two decades old. They were steeped in these types of tactics. I mean, people have made
00:32:13.180 the argument, and I would agree, that Israel is a terrorist nation. They were founded on
00:32:18.420 terrorism. There's a couple of examples we can do. We can talk about some of the different
00:32:21.900 groups at the time, what they did. As we said, they had grievances with every group in that area and in
00:32:29.700 that region at the time. But we can begin with the bombing of the King David Hotel, for example.
00:32:36.720 What about that? On July 22nd, 1946, the Irgun, a Jewish underground organization, and they always
00:32:44.420 call it that. It's like, oh, no, it's totally nothing to do with us guys. It's like, well,
00:32:48.560 they did your bidding, and now you got what you wanted because of bombs going off. They bombed the
00:32:54.440 King David Hotel in Jerusalem, as we said, the British administrative headquarters for mandatory
00:32:59.700 Palestine, killing 91 people and injuring 45. That's terrorism. Yes. And these are, was it the
00:33:08.380 British mandate, right? As we said at the time, King David Hotel. This is where our friend there,
00:33:14.600 James Jesus Angleton, had his little stone inscribed eventually and things like that too. They've received
00:33:19.480 a lot of people that they've made dedications to and things like this. And they haven't kind of,
00:33:24.520 officially, Israel has been like, oh, Canada, that was no good. You know, be it the Leahys,
00:33:28.620 another terrorist group, or the Irgun, what they're involved in and what they did or whatnot.
00:33:32.760 But this was sanctioned by them for sure. So in Israel, it was a problem with the Romans.
00:33:38.840 You know, eventually there's a problem with the Britons. Then it was a problem with the
00:33:42.000 Americans. And now it's, you know, whoever sets their foot there and don't do their bidding,
00:33:46.340 that's a problem. And they go after them and they terrorize them. Yes. They assassinate people.
00:33:51.660 They, they, they, they kill them. You know what I mean? This should be bigger,
00:33:55.620 just outrage around this, but because it was like, ah, it's back in 1946. It's, it's fine.
00:34:01.140 They just gone through the Holocaust, you see. So, and, you know, but you have to,
00:34:04.420 you have to put that in context too, right? That, that even the outrage exaggerations kind of around,
00:34:11.720 you know, the, the, the purported Holocaust. And we don't have to get into whether, you know,
00:34:17.180 try to break down official narratives and things like this. But I'm saying, regardless, that,
00:34:21.780 that mentality then was basically like, you need to do anything to survive. We must have a Jewish,
00:34:26.480 this actually served the Zionist very well as an incentive, right? At the time. And of course,
00:34:32.580 even Hitler famously did cooperate and work with the Zionist at the time. There's commemorative
00:34:37.760 coins that have the swastika on one side and the star of David on the other. He actually wanted to
00:34:42.620 get them out of Europe. You know what I mean? And Israel might not have been an ideal place. I'm
00:34:47.220 not sure how much, you know, the Germans at that time thought about that, but it was like, okay,
00:34:50.900 at least we'll get them out of Europe, right? Yeah. I mean, where do you, where do you take them?
00:34:54.800 Yeah. I mean, that's proof they didn't want to exterminate them all. He just wanted them to live
00:34:58.020 somewhere else. In fact, it was the, well, this is the thing. It was actually the, many of the top
00:35:04.200 Jews at the time that betrayed their own. And this is my point that I made before,
00:35:08.420 that they're willing to sacrifice even their own. Yes, they're willing to kill others for their
00:35:13.080 causes. It's all in their religious texts. Why not? The transfer agreement, right? That was,
00:35:18.660 forget his first name, Black, the Jewish author, the transfer agreement. And it was, you know,
00:35:23.940 famous of how they, they betrayed a lot of them. They, they, they did not want to take them out of
00:35:29.240 the concentration camps. There's a statement by another rabbi and forget his name now,
00:35:33.560 but he did famously say that when this is done, when this is settled, when the dust settles after
00:35:37.660 the war is over, we as Jews, we need to show that like we have bled too. I'm paraphrasing here,
00:35:43.540 but it was something to that effect that we have sacrificed something. When we come to the table,
00:35:47.180 we must show that we also have like bled in order to like get what we want out of the situation,
00:35:52.060 right? So anyway, so that's the, that's the bombing of the King David Hotel. That's just one
00:35:56.180 example, right? What about the assassination of the Swedish diplomat, Volker Bernadotte? He was part of the
00:36:02.780 Swedish royal family. And after, after the initial, uh, you know, war that they had, right? Prior to
00:36:09.720 this, uh, Bernadotte was actually chosen by the United Nations Security Council, uh, to be a mediator
00:36:17.100 in the Israeli Arab conflict of 1947 to 1948. And he was assassinated in Jerusalem in 1948 by the
00:36:25.760 paramilitary Zionist group Leahy that we mentioned before. And this is basically their way of saying
00:36:31.300 thank you for him saving, uh, allegedly, you know, he got, he got out, what was it? 400 Jews,
00:36:38.040 Danish Jews or something like that. Like he actually helped and he aided them. And then he went there
00:36:42.640 and basically like, Hey, we should try to have peace. We should try to get along. We want to
00:36:46.520 help you out here. Boom. They shot him, right? They did not like this. So this is one of the reasons
00:36:52.520 actually why Sweden and many other European countries have been very, at least on paper, kind of anti
00:36:57.760 Israel. And it's now when European, you know, right-wing nationalist parties supposedly are
00:37:03.800 gaining more traction and getting more votes that they're more leaning towards Israel. It's this
00:37:09.700 weird thing with Sweden where the Sweden Democrats are finally like absolved officially. They're like
00:37:13.840 Israeli policy towards them because they said they have a Nazi past where they're like, Oh,
00:37:18.300 we're fine. We're bros. Everything is good. You know, kind of thing. And so you see those
00:37:22.180 developments, obviously in Holland, uh, with Gert Wilders, you're seeing it in Italy with Maloney.
00:37:27.160 You're seeing it in many, it's every right wing party, of course. It's crazy, right? Uh, another
00:37:32.600 one showing you also that they go after their own, right? Remember the assassination of Yitzhak
00:37:37.420 Rabin? Classic case. He, uh, the assailant, the assassinator there, his name was Yagal, if I
00:37:45.720 pronounce that correctly, Amir, an Israeli law student and ultra nationalist designist who
00:37:51.680 radically opposed prime minister Yitzhak Rabin's peace initiative, particularly signing the Oslo
00:37:58.160 Accords. See, a lot of the Nordic nations have been involved in trying to solve this, trying to
00:38:02.340 make peace, trying to be nice to these people, help them out. And what happens now? We're not doing
00:38:08.060 any of that, right? Remember, you can actually go back to looking at some of the evidence that
00:38:12.160 suggest that Netanyahu's regime and a lot of the, uh, upper, you know, Zionists at the Knesset
00:38:17.420 in Israel have helped to fund and support Hamas, because this actually drove a wedge between
00:38:23.300 the more kind of, uh, you know, nationalistic, but not as religiously fervent PLO, uh, which was
00:38:30.220 headed up by Yasser Arafat at the time. He's very popular in Palestine, actually. Uh, and then what
00:38:35.280 they wanted, what the Israeli realized would be beneficial is to create a more extreme religious
00:38:40.240 group and actually fund them and help to support them in order to drive that wedge. And so instead
00:38:45.340 of saying, look, they're obviously very, they're peaceful. They are ready to negotiate. What are
00:38:49.960 you waiting for? The ball is in Israel's court. They don't want a two state solution. They want a
00:38:54.520 one state solution. That's right. According to their God, this is their land. They've been given
00:39:00.340 this land and it's theirs and they're going to get it at any, I mean, their Messiah won't come until
00:39:05.120 this, this happens. They have to have the land. These are commandments, right? And of course,
00:39:08.780 you're mentioning terrorism. We have to talk about 1967 and when the attack against the USS Liberty,
00:39:13.880 which found out, okay, it was Israel. And one of this, oh, this was a, a targeting error. But of
00:39:20.500 course they wanted to blame Egypt. I think this was a pretext for going to war to getting into the
00:39:27.060 Middle East. And now we're in the Middle East and we can't seem to get out of the Middle East.
00:39:31.940 And Israel is bombing Gaza again. It's resumed. So the terrorism just keeps on coming now.
00:39:39.220 And now it never ends. When does it end? It doesn't. Now Trump is bombing Yemen as well.
00:39:45.320 So more civilians and mothers, daughters, sons and fathers, everyone is dying over there. Look,
00:39:51.440 this goes back to the original kind of neoconservative neocon plan that they talk about seven countries in
00:39:57.160 five years. You know, famously Wesley Clark dropped this way back when. Granted, they're not quite on
00:40:02.560 the timetable. They have been set back a few years or whatnot. But those overall kind of neoconservative
00:40:09.880 Zionist aspirations have basically panned out. Yes. And essentially, the only thing that's left for
00:40:16.120 them is Iran. And that's what they're talking about now. That's what's ramping up. Latest comments
00:40:20.860 by Trump and I think on the other side, I think Netanyahu has said something about this as well,
00:40:25.080 that basically, you know, Iran is supporting Hamas. And so we have to go after Iran.
00:40:29.700 So this is what might be we might be looking at. You got to get to remember at the end of the day.
00:40:35.080 The aspiration, and it's more religious than just like ethnic is is world domination. They're the
00:40:40.260 rightful heirs to, you know, to rule globally. They think they are the chosen people. And so this
00:40:45.460 is what they're going to do. And they will try to aspire to that. No questions asked. Right.
00:40:50.080 With all this talk of Israel now and the JFK files coming out, how do you think Zionists are going to
00:40:55.420 spin this? I already see some people on the right are like, no, this is all part of the conspiracy
00:40:59.800 because they want to keep the JQ going and they want to blame Israel. I don't I just find it
00:41:04.860 interesting. This is I don't I don't agree with that. But I find that this is interesting that these
00:41:09.180 topics are coming out in a mainstream way and under Trump, which is a very Zionist government to like,
00:41:14.860 how are they going to spin this? What do you predict here? I don't know. Maybe they have a
00:41:19.300 guy show up at the CIA Langley offices and threaten them by, you know, anti-Semitism. I'm not sure,
00:41:25.600 but apparently there was some shooter there. Right. But plenty of distractions. Again, there's still
00:41:29.120 the question of why Trump did this or did they know, unlike the Epstein files that we're still
00:41:33.520 waiting. Well, it's not even correct term. It's just we want the list of his clients. Right. That's what
00:41:37.560 we want. But even that was like, well, what is this? This is this doesn't make sense. So maybe they had to
00:41:43.700 they had to offer something. It's like, all right, fine. Give them the give them the JFK files or
00:41:47.960 something. But yes, they will spin it, try to cover it up and basically try to ignore it and pretend
00:41:52.060 that RFK Jr. stop shilling for Israel now. Probably not. No, definitely not. Yeah, they'll just kind of
00:41:59.300 look the other. Well, that was then. This is now. No, it's still then. It's continuing. It's the same
00:42:04.380 people. It's the same agenda. Just a different year. Yeah. I mean, this this is this is far from over.
00:42:10.020 I think in their book, this is actually just beginning, to be honest. They're finally now
00:42:13.880 all those pieces that they've been trying to power, lots of power, lame place for such a long
00:42:18.360 time is now finally kind of coming back in. And in fact, Netanyahu's latest statement there on Hamas
00:42:24.040 is they're initiating a ground invasion now, I think. And again, and they're basically seeking
00:42:30.120 to clean this out. Even even Pollard that we talked about before, right, who came to Israel,
00:42:34.980 kisses the ground, get a royal welcome by Netanyahu and things like that for like,
00:42:39.780 thank you for spying for us. You're a great service to to our country and to our cause and
00:42:43.980 whatnot like that. Even Pollard was supportive of basically taking every single Arab out of the
00:42:49.720 Gaza Strip and sending them to Ireland. Right. Isn't that what they had in mind? Send them to
00:42:53.860 Ireland, send them to Sweden, France, Germany. I'm sure they want to ship some of them off to
00:42:58.740 America. Multiculturalism, multiracialism for Europe. But, you know, ethno nationalism for Israel.
00:43:04.620 Right. The classic double standard. And by the way, if you point that out,
00:43:08.000 you are an anti-Semite, this is in the working definition of anti-Semitism. It never ends. It's
00:43:14.020 a list where they just keep adding. I'm sure they'll say saying that the JFK assassination
00:43:18.740 had anything to do with Jews or Israel is also going to go in the working list of anti-Semitism.
00:43:25.140 I mean, it's it feels hopeless to talk about politicians that are good or decent or moral
00:43:31.200 or upstanding or they don't have you know, they don't let themselves be blackmailed like this,
00:43:35.520 like so many others have in the past. And it seems at this point, it's so under control that
00:43:39.020 you won't even have anybody who's independent outside of that system that will rise to the
00:43:43.260 ranks of power and actually be able to do it in order to avoid being ensnared. Look at
00:43:47.360 one. I mean, look at Thomas Massey. Right. He's one of the few guys that they supposedly don't have
00:43:52.080 that control of. And they did not let that guy in.
00:43:53.780 And no, I mean, he I think it's a pack that said that they're going to raise
00:43:59.120 more money than I would like to will. We'll raise 10 times as much as he does in order to just get
00:44:03.940 his opponent in to get him out. He's apparently the one guy who hasn't taken any APAC money
00:44:07.720 and he seems to be general. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See how rare that is. Right. He talked about the APAC
00:44:13.880 guy that everyone has in Congress and things like that. I mean, you do have the question,
00:44:17.640 like, how do you how do you get these people out? How do you stop this? And it seems at this point
00:44:22.000 that they just have full lockdown on this. I think the light at the end of the tunnel is
00:44:28.400 their hubris. They're always constantly overplaying their hand. Right. It's too obvious. It's too much.
00:44:35.460 Now they're like, we're going to deport people that are not sufficiently pro-Israel.
00:44:39.620 They never know when to stop. They don't know when to stop. That's why they've been thrown out of so
00:44:43.480 many countries in the past. And this is in a way, I hate that it resorts to that, that somehow like
00:44:50.520 we're not getting the win. It's just them overplaying their hand. But we have to we have
00:44:55.720 to take that as an advantage. Right. Of exposing this, of showing this corruption, the blackmailing
00:45:02.040 schemes, the assassinations, the backhanded tactics and continue to tell people like that. This is
00:45:07.620 this is your greatest ally. We don't get anything from this. We get nothing from this relationship.
00:45:13.980 No, they're a massive parasite that suck down, you know, suck up billions of taxpayer money.
00:45:21.620 Yep. They're parasites and they're draining the U.S. and they're doing everything on the on the
00:45:25.660 behalf of Israeli security and things like this. And now if you try and criticize it or say something
00:45:29.360 about it, they want to pass laws to put you in jail like they already in some European countries.
00:45:33.620 Right. Well, that's anti-Semitic. You can't criticize a country even in a time of war. You can't
00:45:38.220 criticize someone who happens to be Jewish when they're dropping bombs and genociding people. I mean,
00:45:43.100 this is evil. This is an evil, rotten system to the core and it needs to be exposed and people
00:45:50.480 need to organize and start thinking of ways. How are we going to fight back against this system
00:45:55.880 and restore some kind of justice, some kind of order? Well, I'm kind of American first policies
00:46:01.440 here. Indeed. I mean, I'll say this. It's easier than ever to expose this because it's all coming out
00:46:07.260 now, essentially. Not all of it, maybe, but so much of it is coming out and it's easier now than it has
00:46:11.120 been in a very long time. So I'm actually encouraged and we got to get these rotten politicians out of
00:46:16.200 there. Well, that was a quick hour. Thank you all for joining us. And thank you, Stu, for letting us
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00:46:33.000 Thank you for watching. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you to Stu Peters as well.