Red Ice TV - September 22, 2024


It's 'Shameful' To Want Children


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18 minutes

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3,343

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294

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Misogyny

11

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Hate speech

40

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Jade Sasser is a black feminist and author who has a new book called Why White People Don t Have Kids . She argues that white people should have more kids because they stand in the way of population growth and environmental justice.

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00:00:00.200 Don't have kids because the environment propaganda is nothing new in the West.
00:00:05.360 Us white people have seen it for years.
00:00:07.320 The covers of magazines and articles showing happy childless white couples, 0.55
00:00:11.600 usually written by a brainwashed feminist or a subversive who simply hates people of European descent.
00:00:17.540 For years, we have been told to not have kids because of climate change, pollution and resources.
00:00:23.120 But now they also tell us we need billions of migrants because we aren't having kids.
00:00:28.060 Meanwhile, non-white populations such as in Africa have an exploding population.
00:00:32.840 India and China have populations over a billion.
00:00:36.340 Globally, Europeans are a minority, but it's European countries,
00:00:40.040 even the smallest, who get blasted with the most child-free life propaganda.
00:00:45.500 It's also true that the more liberal we get, the less kids we have.
00:00:49.220 And this is even starting to rub off on some non-European foreigners in white countries, 0.59
00:00:54.400 but not as much as it has on us because they still have a strong sense of ethnic allegiance.
00:01:01.300 Also, for many hostels, they see population and the expansion of their group as a warfare tactic.
00:01:07.660 The LA Times published this.
00:01:10.040 It's almost shameless to want to have children, written by a black feminist, 1.00
00:01:15.180 an associate professor in the Department of Gender and Sexuality Studies at UC Riverside.
00:01:21.260 By the way, Riverside is a highly dangerous Mexican gang-ridden city, but never mind that. 1.00
00:01:27.800 Pretty sure folks in her town aren't having eco-anxiety and climate guilt.
00:01:32.200 Elon shared this article on X and said,
00:01:34.680 Extinctionists want a holocaust for all of humanity. 0.96
00:01:38.440 No, actually, they want this for white people, number one.
00:01:42.640 It's why they are obsessed with population replacement in white countries. 0.94
00:01:46.440 Maybe they'll get to the others later, but right now they want white people out of the picture 0.95
00:01:51.360 because we stand in their way of global control.
00:01:54.420 And who are these extinctionists exactly?
00:01:57.780 If you actually look at Jade Sasser's book, it's an attack specifically on white people
00:02:03.060 while sympathizing for non-whites who want kids in white countries 0.75
00:02:06.320 because of the racism their kids may have to painfully endure as they collect welfare checks.
00:02:11.380 You see, it's not equitable or in line with social justice for white people to have more kids. 0.84
00:02:17.560 Their time is over.
00:02:19.160 Jade Sasser argues that we can and should continue to create the families we desire,
00:02:24.360 but that doing so equitably will require deep commitments to social, reproductive, and climate justice.
00:02:31.540 The we part means everyone but white people because they are the ones who owe everyone else, right? 0.99
00:02:37.020 We owe everyone.
00:02:37.720 The right thing to do as a white person is to support them to have children with our tax dollars and resources
00:02:44.020 while we sacrifice ourselves and end our family tree.
00:02:48.700 The black feminist gender professor interviewed numerous people, mostly non-whites, 1.00
00:02:53.740 to survey the role of race in environmental emotions
00:02:57.680 and the reproductive plans young people are making as a result. 0.99
00:03:01.820 Race was number one. 0.96
00:03:04.220 Let's just look at her Amazon page.
00:03:05.940 There's a couple banners here.
00:03:07.080 One reads, centering race, social justice, and hope.
00:03:11.860 Climate anxiety in the kid question helps you make the right decision for you.
00:03:16.680 Another banner reads, how can I protect my future children from racism and inequity?
00:03:22.240 So her entire book is about sympathizing with non-whites who want kids because of the bad white man 0.55
00:03:27.380 who's ruining everything for them, including the air they breathe.
00:03:31.120 But they never go back to their motherland, do they?
00:03:33.660 In the LA Times piece, she interviewed seven non-whites.
00:03:37.180 Six were immigrants.
00:03:38.540 One was an American Indian.
00:03:40.260 No one asked them to come and be oppressed by white society.
00:03:44.600 Five of them mentioned their hesitation or concern over having kids because of racial inequality and racism.
00:03:50.980 More than environment, of course.
00:03:52.260 But they still plan on having kids, of course.
00:03:55.400 The other two alluded to it but didn't specifically say racism.
00:03:59.120 We don't ask for them to come.
00:04:00.640 They do, and then they complain about racism, yet they never go home.
00:04:04.260 The fact is the majority of non-Europeans don't care about the environment and conservation as much as white people. 0.63
00:04:10.560 The most polluted countries in the world are not white. 1.00
00:04:13.400 The countries with no real regard to conservation practices are not white. 1.00
00:04:17.180 The third world countries they flee from are not white. 0.81
00:04:21.740 Guaranteed, the only women who truly respond to books like this are white women. 1.00
00:04:26.120 And that's precisely who they don't want to have kids.
00:04:29.100 It only works on white women because of years of lies about the environment and race. 1.00
00:04:34.480 Because of constant anti-whiteism and manufactured white guilt.
00:04:38.580 If these people truly cared about the environment, they'd write books about microplastics and forever chemicals.
00:04:45.000 But they don't.
00:04:45.700 But climate justice is just another word for anti-whites.
00:04:50.640 So this is, of course, how the social justice movement and the green agenda, you know, all serves a purpose.
00:04:56.440 But I also like...
00:04:57.220 Coincide.
00:04:57.440 Huh?
00:04:57.860 And they coincide, yes.
00:04:59.340 Yeah, it's how they...
00:05:01.160 I like the fact that it seems to kind of inflict them more than others in a weird way.
00:05:06.400 I'm kind of welcoming it.
00:05:07.400 However, some of them, as you said, do decide to have children.
00:05:10.040 She interviewed this author here, Sasser, whatever that is.
00:05:14.400 Is that a...
00:05:15.140 Anyway.
00:05:15.940 She interviewed a white woman here. 0.98
00:05:17.160 Listen to how they framed this just in the beginning.
00:05:19.420 It's the guilt they associate this with.
00:05:22.140 You know, like somehow it's wrong to reproduce, you know, without, of course, questioning why populations are exploding in the third world. 1.00
00:05:29.300 I'm thinking, you know what, maybe we should have kids.
00:05:31.880 If we're the...
00:05:32.200 If we're the ones who are...
00:05:33.600 Even this, like, if we're the ones who are thinking like this about these topics, maybe we are the ones who should, you know, have kids who can pass on those values.
00:05:40.660 But even that, she was attacked for being selfish, this woman on the right, for wanting children, which is the complete opposite, by the way.
00:05:47.480 But let's listen to this a little bit.
00:05:49.240 When my partner and I started talking about potentially trying to get pregnant and I was confronting all of the scientific reports, you know, climate studies coming across my desk as a science communicator every day, it birthed an enormous dilemma.
00:06:04.580 I was a researcher in mental health and climate change.
00:06:08.720 But going back to...
00:06:10.200 We're going to die in seven years.
00:06:11.960 Yeah, this has exacerbated her neurosis and her mental illness, essentially. 1.00
00:06:18.260 They think we're going to go extinct in 10 years or whatever.
00:06:19.120 They think we're going to die and no one is doing anything.
00:06:21.440 I mean, it's actually cruel to those who are not smart enough or they trust enough, I guess.
00:06:25.980 Or they do have mental health issues.
00:06:27.680 That's what I'm saying.
00:06:28.440 And that exacerbates it.
00:06:29.760 That just triggers it further, right?
00:06:30.980 But at the same time, you'd think then it'd be like something, oh, it's not really that bad.
00:06:35.260 Let's not kind of exploit and create a board.
00:06:37.280 No, they don't fucking care about that.
00:06:38.780 In fact, they seek to weaponize these individuals so that they can go on attack against Western society.
00:06:44.760 And again, as you said, as you made a link, to racism, right?
00:06:48.440 The interviewer, Rosalind, when I asked if there was one issue that feels like the primary reason for not having kids, she answered decisively, racism.
00:06:56.200 This is what I was talking about when I talked about the majority of them said that.
00:07:01.420 It wasn't about the environment.
00:07:03.140 And the majority of them said they were still going to have kids.
00:07:05.580 So it's not working as much on non-whites.
00:07:08.620 I mean, it's working on some, but not enough.
00:07:12.240 These Mexican women, they don't care. 1.00
00:07:14.840 Are racial issues.
00:07:17.860 Bad environmentalists, that's white supremacy, right? 0.66
00:07:20.640 Climate justice.
00:07:21.440 Climate justice is racial justice. 0.93
00:07:23.460 Yep, exactly.
00:07:24.060 They've made that link now.
00:07:25.080 The way that I tried to navigate my decision was by doing interviews with lots of people, parents and non-parents and various kinds of climate and conservation experts and activists.
00:07:36.740 I was still left in a tricky place and had to eventually just decide.
00:07:42.120 Despite the many times that I thought that this crisis would hold me back from having a child, I did end up deciding to get pregnant.
00:07:49.460 Better be white. 0.99
00:07:49.940 If you had asked me several years ago, I do not think that I would have at all envisioned this for myself.
00:07:55.080 I started hearing people having a conversation.
00:07:57.300 Anyway, then, this is the author that starts talking about this.
00:07:59.160 But anyway, she talks about later on here how she was, you know, attacked for being selfish, for wanting to have children.
00:08:06.740 And it's like, no, it's actually the opposite.
00:08:08.720 Right now, you're investing in the future.
00:08:10.780 You're ensuring that there's continuation.
00:08:12.520 Even if you're a dumb idea, in this case, unfortunately.
00:08:16.640 Having a kid is all about taking care of that individual, not yourself.
00:08:21.500 It's a very selfless act.
00:08:23.520 Yeah.
00:08:23.760 I mean, did you ever see those videos?
00:08:25.920 I'm 42.
00:08:27.580 I'm childless.
00:08:28.020 You know, the child is by choice, right?
00:08:29.560 Because they just don't want to have, they think kids are, you know, kind of thing.
00:08:32.480 I'm 42.
00:08:33.480 I'm childless.
00:08:34.280 It's Sunday and I'm drinking a margarita.
00:08:36.140 Have you seen those videos?
00:08:36.800 I'm 42, child free.
00:08:40.120 It's Sunday, fun day.
00:08:41.780 No babysitter needed.
00:08:43.220 Let's go.
00:08:48.120 I'm 42.
00:08:49.500 I'm child free.
00:08:50.780 It's Labor Day weekend.
00:08:52.400 No babysitter needed.
00:08:53.960 What?
00:08:54.260 What?
00:08:59.200 You can see, like, that just, the abyss in her eyes.
00:09:02.360 It's not going to age well, yeah.
00:09:03.740 You know, psych herself out of it. 1.00
00:09:05.700 It's like, this is, this is great.
00:09:07.280 I can just drink whenever I want.
00:09:09.040 You know, really?
00:09:09.980 Is that, that's what this is about?
00:09:11.260 But anyway, yeah, I mean, here's her dumb websites. 1.00
00:09:14.180 It's all the same language.
00:09:17.780 Feminist scholar of climate change, reproductive politics and the future.
00:09:22.640 Yeah, everything is freaking political.
00:09:24.480 And climate change.
00:09:25.280 And, you know, the one thing I don't see, them actually trying to fix the environment.
00:09:29.760 That's what I see.
00:09:31.080 Well, they see.
00:09:31.580 No one's trying to clean up the actual pollution and the toxins and the microplastics
00:09:35.320 and all the gender-bending chemicals.
00:09:37.520 In fact, they seem to like that.
00:09:39.280 Well, keep in mind, though, too.
00:09:41.180 I mean, I agree with you.
00:09:42.460 That is the case.
00:09:43.400 But their theories here is basically, like, you destroy Western civilization.
00:09:49.560 You destroy those aspects that are destroying the environment.
00:09:52.720 That's how they say it.
00:09:53.280 And what's Western civilization?
00:09:54.460 Well, that's white people. 0.83
00:09:55.800 Yeah, well, they're profiting from it.
00:09:57.440 Of course.
00:09:57.980 So they're fine.
00:09:58.880 They're sitting there living large, not going home.
00:10:00.940 Killing whitey means that's how we solve the climate crisis, right? 1.00
00:10:04.180 That's how they've reasoned.
00:10:05.700 It's like they haven't thought it through.
00:10:06.920 It's the opposite.
00:10:07.960 Exactly.
00:10:08.440 If there's no white people, there's no country for you people to flee to. 0.91
00:10:11.660 Everyone she interviews, like, fled their shithole country.
00:10:14.240 And, like, where are some of the most polluted rivers in the world?
00:10:17.720 Yes, that's the same.
00:10:18.360 Look at the plastics in these areas and stuff, you know.
00:10:21.140 But anyway, so that's that.
00:10:23.000 We don't have to focus too much on that.
00:10:24.300 I did want to play one clip as a follow-up to this, which was kind of interesting.
00:10:29.060 It was on the issue of woke people dying out.
00:10:31.360 Now, of course, I think most of you guys may be out there.
00:10:34.020 We had Ed Dutton on the show a few years ago now.
00:10:36.440 But he talked about, you know, the spiteful mutants and all that stuff of, like, basically these people are dysgenic, right?
00:10:42.880 And we've caused, because of our success in society and the Western world and our liberal ideas, have basically enabled these people to survive.
00:10:49.720 Whereas in the past, all these people would have, maybe not all of them, but many of them would have basically died.
00:10:55.960 One, because they didn't fit in.
00:10:57.280 They were mutants.
00:10:58.100 They were weirdos.
00:10:59.320 They couldn't adopt to their natural circumstances, you know, natural environment, things like this.
00:11:03.540 But now everybody survives.
00:11:05.200 So we've had this, like, massive growth of people who normally would have been culled by nature, essentially, that are now survived.
00:11:13.120 Now they're spreading their mutant ideas, essentially.
00:11:15.340 And, in fact, now, you know, take the LGBTQ stuff or the grooming stuff, right? 0.97
00:11:19.600 Now they're converting maybe normal kids over to their ideology, and that's how it spreads or whatever.
00:11:25.020 But here's a follow-up to that discussion.
00:11:26.880 I want to play a little bit part of this clip here where it basically talks about how now, because I said this too, like, look, just kind of, we don't have to necessarily win, like, a war against these people.
00:11:38.060 You might just have to hold out, because eventually, normal, regular people will have kids, speaking of the previous story here, and these woke, for the simplicity's sake of using that word, these woke lunatics, many of them don't want to have children.
00:11:53.600 Won't and can't.
00:11:54.460 They're sterile.
00:11:55.660 They're taking hormones. 0.87
00:11:56.360 They are cutting off their genitals. 0.57
00:11:57.740 Exactly, like all these things, right?
00:11:59.180 So eventually you'll see a pivot, and it will start going in the opposite direction.
00:12:02.460 Now they're actually starting to die out.
00:12:04.440 Let's listen to that part.
00:12:05.860 It's better than that.
00:12:06.740 There's a white pill to this, and this is that as these people build up in their percentage of the population, and as we tip over towards then being individually oriented rather than group oriented, then you'll get a kind of runaway individualism, which starts off with, you know, being anti-racist or whatever, and then it's pro-gay, and then it's pro-transsexual and whatever.
00:12:29.820 And eventually it gets to the point we are now, where people are pushed along by woke ideas on a maladaptive roadmap of life, where you're being told you should feel, don't have children.
00:12:42.640 You're being sucked into a death cult.
00:12:44.500 Feel bad for being a man and become a woman and be infertile. 0.99
00:12:49.520 Feel bad for being human and thus don't pass on your genes because of the climate.
00:12:53.480 Feel bad for being white and thus don't pass on your genes, whatever it happens to be. 0.54
00:12:58.020 And so who is going to be resistant to these maladaptive ideas?
00:13:04.860 It's going to be people who are genetically resistant.
00:13:07.400 It's going to be basically the pre-industrial population, i.e. the healthy population.
00:13:13.000 Because remember that genetic health correlates with all of these markers, religiosity, conservatism, ethnocentrism, and mental health.
00:13:19.240 They all correlate into one fitness factor.
00:13:20.700 So what wokeness is doing is it is sucking into its death cult all but the most genetically healthy. 0.55
00:13:29.460 Therefore, what it is doing, and it's crucial, it's a group-level adaptation, is it's keeping the species healthy across time.
00:13:37.620 It is removing the mutant genes from the gene pool, both of humanity as a whole and of the European.
00:13:49.240 Now, there's two dimensions.
00:13:51.540 Yeah, it goes on there.
00:13:52.300 But anyway, that's an interesting point.
00:13:53.780 I think he's right there too.
00:13:55.160 I think so too.
00:13:55.840 So cutting off the fat, the argument we've said in the past, right, is that nature always wins, right?
00:14:03.420 Even if this is intentional or not, those are still…
00:14:06.280 Still decay.
00:14:07.920 The operators are still bound to the laws of nature.
00:14:12.520 Do you see what I'm saying?
00:14:13.260 So even if it's like the woke madness…
00:14:14.680 Survival of the fittest, right?
00:14:16.100 Yeah, but if the woke madness is like a plan and they want you…
00:14:19.080 Okay, well, fine, whatever.
00:14:20.160 That's the way that nature takes its course.
00:14:22.240 It found this way of doing it.
00:14:24.280 But no, I think he's right.
00:14:25.020 I think that many of these people will not go on to exist.
00:14:30.360 And we've seen this kind of peak of like total insanity.
00:14:33.420 And of course, now we can't run civilization at the same time because of that.
00:14:36.480 So that means, of course, comfort will go down.
00:14:38.620 It will be harder to survive.
00:14:40.140 It will be more strenuous to survive.
00:14:41.480 Which will make tougher people.
00:14:42.780 Exactly.
00:14:43.300 Which even further then kind of exacerbates this.
00:14:46.220 In other words, it could go radically quickly once we kind of, you know, turn that corner essentially.
00:14:53.000 Which is actually very, very positive.
00:14:54.380 Once we kind of purge and cleanse.
00:14:57.340 Yeah, so we're back to that.
00:14:58.620 Like we should actually…
00:14:59.620 We should not fight these people when they're making a mistake, right?
00:15:03.440 Don't interrupt them.
00:15:04.260 We should actually encourage the author there of that piece.
00:15:08.860 Don't say that they're wrong.
00:15:10.720 You're absolutely correct, love.
00:15:12.840 Oh, this is so important right now.
00:15:14.360 But what I see, though, I don't feel like there's enough non-whites falling for this yet. 1.00
00:15:18.280 Because like the Mexicans, the Muslims, they're still breeding like a lot. 1.00
00:15:22.660 They don't really fall for this.
00:15:23.740 But what would be good is the more liberal they get, the less kids they have.
00:15:28.200 Well, they do.
00:15:29.180 And they will.
00:15:29.940 But I think the future generations will also become maybe less Muslim, less Catholic as far as like the foreigners that are in America, for instance. 0.96
00:15:38.180 And then therefore have less kids.
00:15:40.460 Because I know the other…
00:15:41.600 Well, that faction of it.
00:15:43.280 So you do have that interesting thing.
00:15:45.540 You have a separation.
00:15:46.940 So those that are highly…
00:15:48.040 I think he's right there.
00:15:48.820 Those that are highly religious, they will go on to have a lot of kids, you know, almost as an intentional pushback.
00:15:55.560 I mean, there's a lot of people that we know in our sphere that are exactly doing that too, right?
00:15:59.700 So, and, you know, maybe religiosity is not the only variable.
00:16:03.400 As I said, it could just be ethnocentrism, right?
00:16:05.320 You're very survival.
00:16:06.160 You want to reproduce. 0.94
00:16:07.140 And you're consciously doing that now, right?
00:16:09.640 So you'll see that, like, them declining tremendously.
00:16:12.000 And then all of a sudden you see an explosion.
00:16:13.720 And the scales will have tipped, essentially.
00:16:15.760 But populations overall are declining, right?
00:16:19.960 Even those in the developing world, as they develop, they begin to decline. 0.98
00:16:24.540 And many of them are declining even faster than Western countries have been declining over the last few, you know, hundreds of years now.
00:16:30.640 It's happening everywhere.
00:16:31.260 It's not just us.
00:16:32.180 No, absolutely not.
00:16:32.980 And, in fact, we bring them into our countries.
00:16:35.260 And evidence so far seems to suggest…
00:16:36.640 Eventually they have less kids.
00:16:37.480 They have less kids as well.
00:16:38.640 And so it doesn't…
00:16:40.260 And all these migrant men, single men coming over, they're not going to all find women. 0.98
00:16:43.680 No, exactly.
00:16:44.260 They're not all going to have kids.
00:16:44.720 No, definitely not.
00:16:45.340 No, this is a Band-Aid fix.
00:16:46.800 And, in fact, as I said, or, like, to make that point clear, we want something like this to happen.
00:16:53.340 This is good.
00:16:53.920 I mean, we're concerned with our people primarily.
00:16:56.680 All these other people, it's kind of a parenthesis, it's a side note.
00:17:00.060 Yes, they're occupying our countries. 0.83
00:17:01.220 But if we can get a hardcore, dedicated group, even though it's fewer in numbers, if it's more organized, right, around these principles, we're going to be much more effective than just this blob of, like, weirdos of white people. 0.71
00:17:14.500 You know what I mean?
00:17:14.660 And so taking that off, that's what I want to say.
00:17:17.660 Cutting that fat off will be very healthy for us.
00:17:20.320 The end goal is homogenous, healthy, white, prosperous nations. 0.94
00:17:25.280 That's what we want here.
00:17:26.300 That's correct.
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