Red Ice TV - Leaving The City, Overcoming Fear, What Is Freedom？ - Benny Wills

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00:02:50.000 changed, huh? Yeah, that's mind-blowing. That was right at the beginning of, I guess, my journey as

00:02:58.740 a public presenter. That was the first year of Joy Camp is when we talked. And man, so much has

00:03:06.720 happened in the last nine years. It's overwhelming, really. Yeah, for several years, you and Kevin,

00:03:12.180 who's there next to you and other friends, you guys produced these well-made skits on, you know,

00:03:15.720 various dark conspiracies under the name Joy Camp. Some of you guys might remember. Comedy awareness

00:03:20.500 was a term I think you were using. And nine years ago, we talked about how tyrant elites,

00:03:25.480 they fear creativity and comedy if they can't use it for their manipulation and control. Fast forward

00:03:31.700 to a few years later, and they're banning comedians, musicians, content creators, like as we've been

00:03:38.660 banned and censored. It's crazy, isn't it? Just in that short period. Yeah, it all just keeps unfolding

00:03:44.540 exactly the way we predict. We're all prophets. We see it coming, we point at it, and then it

00:03:51.760 happens, and then we're still called crazy for predicting the future. Oh, yeah. Now, I know that

00:03:56.960 you have, well, what did they say? A prophet is never loved in his own town. I think a prophet is

00:04:00.900 never loved in his own country at this point. But, you know, conspiracy just means people conspiring to

00:04:06.500 do something. People do it every day. I know you've covered all the big ones. Now, looking back

00:04:10.480 after that period of your life, and in terms of all of the great conspiracies today, what do you

00:04:15.760 think is the biggest, most important one nowadays that stands out?

00:04:21.240 The biggest, most important conspiracy?

00:04:23.720 Yeah. I know people talk about, like, the moon landing, or GSK, or it's all over the place.

00:04:28.900 Good question. I think I'm going to give a kind of a general answer. I think that everything that

00:04:37.160 we're taught that's happened at any point in history needs to be questioned. And it's, maybe

00:04:43.060 that, maybe that is a too, a bit too broad, but I've, I've met a point now where it's, the

00:04:47.720 conspiracy is so big. Everything I've ever learned from another person, or some, you know, ethereal,

00:04:55.800 authoritative figure, I've come to question. So I think the biggest conspiracy of all is that

00:05:03.060 everything needs to be questioned. Everything is subject to more perspective.

00:05:09.440 Absolutely. Good answer. Absolutely. You're going to have to question everything, question all

00:05:13.820 authority, question everything we've been told. And even that, it makes you an extremist nowadays,

00:05:18.940 if you just simply question basic things. Now, how would you say you've changed the most since 2013?

00:05:23.640 I was thinking about it. And for me, I've grown, I've been forced to grow a thick skin and a strong

00:05:29.880 stomach after all I've seen and all the attacks that we've endured. But how would you say that

00:05:34.060 you've changed more in the last nine years? Yeah, well, just looking at that Joy Camp page,

00:05:40.300 we, we've had a lot of videos that they try to take down in the past year, I've been successful

00:05:44.620 at getting them all back, which is kind of cool. I don't think that's happens too often. But I always

00:05:50.840 write back and say, parody, this is parody. This is just a parody. It's a commentary. And every single

00:05:56.660 time, YouTube writes me back and apologizes and say they got it wrong, which has been really

00:06:01.040 interesting to observe. So only time we've had a video taken down is for copyright stuff. But

00:06:06.780 they've been trying to take video, I mean, once every couple months, they'll try to take a video down

00:06:10.960 and I'll appeal it. And so far, 100% success, which is an interesting thing to acknowledge.

00:06:18.180 Wow, that's amazing. That can't be said for us.

00:06:20.660 No. Yeah, well, I mean, most of my colleagues now are off of YouTube. Yeah. And I mean,

00:06:27.000 we've certainly had some videos that have been taken down and never come back. But

00:06:31.420 yeah, I think they respond to my appeals, which is fascinating. It makes me wonder if anyone's

00:06:37.460 actually watching or is certain sort of AI algorithm bot situation. I don't know.

00:06:43.000 So there's a lot I want to dive into. But first, I want to get into Idaho, how how we both ended up

00:06:48.260 in northern Idaho, which is hilarious. And I didn't know you were here. You didn't know that

00:06:52.600 we were here. But you were meeting up with a mutual friend, Rebecca, actually, your wife,

00:06:57.660 who I'm friends with, your beautiful wife, was hanging out with Rebecca. And then we came up and

00:07:02.260 it was like, Oh, Henrik and Lana also live in Idaho now. So how did you come to move here?

00:07:08.600 I know it's, it's been surreal. So many people it's like, it's like a who's who of YouTube cast off.

00:07:16.540 But it's great. I mean, we've all been drawn to the same place for I think,

00:07:21.240 very similar reasons. I mean, Sonia and I, we left California in 2018. We didn't know we would

00:07:26.840 end up in north Idaho. But we knew we wanted to end up someplace better than Los Angeles. And we

00:07:33.820 just trusted the signs that we were getting. So we somehow made it up here. We bought a property

00:07:40.020 year ago, we've been building on it ever since. And yeah, it's, it's strange and cool that so many

00:07:47.520 people that I know from the internet are here as well.

00:07:54.500 And you can hang out and meet up. Now you grew up in Los Angeles, right? You're born in California,

00:08:00.940 we're going to get into that later, you're you're acting and leaving and stuff. But how is it being

00:08:05.160 living somewhere that's more freedom focused, definitely more conservative, if you know what I

00:08:09.320 mean, versus California? What does it feel like for you to be around that kind of energy?

00:08:14.520 I feel like I'm in a pocket reality. I feel like we are less influenced by some of the nonsense up

00:08:26.620 here. And it's, it's interesting. I mean, we left California before it was cool. I mean, I moved in

00:08:34.900 Idaho before it really became like, I mean, we bought a property, but a little over a year ago,

00:08:39.340 but then the real estate market really increased last year. It's fantastic. First of all, to be out

00:08:46.040 of California, I saw all of this coming. I didn't know it was going to be a virus that was going to

00:08:51.680 be the catalyst for, you know, the new nonsense, but I could definitely see that there was the LA

00:08:58.060 wasn't the place for me and that being in the city wasn't a good thing. So being up here is really

00:09:05.540 calming. It's because what's happening the last couple of years is like a, it's, it presents like

00:09:12.280 an existential sort of dread. No matter where you are, you still kind of are affected by what's going

00:09:18.260 on and living remotely, living rurally makes it less, uh, I don't know, depressing. Yeah. So

00:09:29.740 it's, we're, we're, we're so happy that we landed here and we're so happy that we landed here

00:09:33.740 before 2020. Um, and all, everything that's happened since. So yeah, it's, it's a, I'm blown

00:09:41.140 away still. I'm really blown away still that this is where I live. Yeah. It's surreal.

00:09:44.260 Very relieved. I feel like when we came to, it was kind of a reset period. Like you needed to

00:09:49.320 just kind of get grounded again. If you're coming from a super lefty cesspit or in our case, you know,

00:09:55.060 being doxxed and harassed by people in the town and journalists showing up and stuff. There's this

00:09:59.880 period of kind of washing it away and healing and recharging. And I don't know, there's just

00:10:04.360 something special about the land here. And when you're around people that you share something in

00:10:09.140 common with, like there is a true community, it's a true brotherhood and a sisterhood. So many of us

00:10:13.520 are finding that we, uh, that's been missing in our life, you know, so it's definitely empowering.

00:10:18.980 Yep. Well, people seem to understand the idea of freedom here generally. And not only that,

00:10:26.320 but that freedom is something worth protecting. I think most people really don't know how to

00:10:30.760 define freedom. They think freedom comes from someone saying they have it or they're allowed

00:10:36.120 to have it. But up here, people know that, you know, freedom is important and that it's worth

00:10:42.540 protecting. And it's a pretty, it seems anyway, like the area, maybe, maybe it's just North Idaho.

00:10:50.580 Uh, it's kind of hands off, which I really appreciate, especially in this County that

00:10:54.900 we're in, we're in a County called Bonner County and it's a little, it's like the wild, wild West.

00:11:00.640 I mean, it's like, you don't even need a building permit. You got to do. I mean, I can't think of

00:11:04.540 many places where you don't need a building permit. It's pretty cool. You know, I heard someone

00:11:08.620 complaining the other day about how, uh, Oh, we built this nice house. And then the person right

00:11:12.740 next door to us had an outhouse and they had to carry water and I was like, well, that's cool,

00:11:17.700 you know, because they can do whatever they want on their lands, you know?

00:11:20.640 Yeah. And that, that comes with its own set of challenges for the buyer of a property,

00:11:25.980 which we found out this past year, since the previous owners were just doing whatever they

00:11:30.560 wanted to. It was, uh, we, there's been a lot of surprises regarding the property and the house

00:11:36.860 on it, but you know, it is what it is. We're, we're, we're happy to, to fix those problems.

00:11:43.260 I'm glad that these are our problems, put it that way.

00:11:46.080 Now you were a working actor, you were living in La La Land. Let's talk about your

00:11:50.380 experience in, in Hollywood. Uh, maybe you look at it differently now. I don't know if you,

00:11:56.100 and also if you have any regrets or would you have done anything differently?

00:12:00.700 Well, I mean, I feel like everything happens for a reason and my path has led me here. So I can't,

00:12:05.160 I don't have any regrets about anything. If I had to do it all over again, I would have never gone

00:12:09.280 to Hollywood. I never would have, I never would have gone to college, wouldn't have gone to graduate

00:12:12.260 school, wouldn't have gotten in student loan debt, would never pursued a career as an actor at all.

00:12:17.020 So I would have done everything different had I known then what I know now, but you know,

00:12:22.400 it has given me, it's made me who I am. So I can't, it all has worked out exactly right. But

00:12:28.760 I've, I've definitely, it's been a sobering experience. It was certainly a sobering experience

00:12:34.900 around 2017 or 18 when it really became clear that I had to leave Los Angeles and leave my career

00:12:44.280 behind because I didn't know what to do. I mean, I'd been orienting my life since I was four years

00:12:49.480 old towards being a professional actor. And to know that that was no longer the path for me was

00:12:56.920 scary. And it took me a little while to, you know, have the balls to actually leave. So 0.93

00:13:04.660 yeah, and of course now looking back, it's all very clear and I'm so really so happy that I'm out

00:13:11.240 of there, but you know, it was a, it was a scary leap to make and good riddance. I mean, LA is a,

00:13:17.480 LA is a cesspool. It's a pit, it's a pit of hell where the lost angels are. So it's character building, 0.99

00:13:24.820 but good riddance. Yeah. I remember you guys had a meeting with the comedy central, right? This was

00:13:31.480 years ago and they went through your videos and what did they say to you guys? Uh, it was,

00:13:37.960 we met with comedy central twice, actually the first time. And they rejected us both times,

00:13:41.940 obviously, but the first time they said it was too smart for comedy central. That was their exact

00:13:46.880 words. It was too smart. They want to dumb down, dumb down comedy, right? Just, uh, look, this is where

00:13:52.480 this is, this, I think it's a good snapshot of how things have changed the last few years. I mean,

00:13:56.620 we were pitching a joy camp pilot all around Hollywood in 2016. It's only a little over five

00:14:05.460 years ago and it was almost picked up, but now anything conspiracy is so demonized, we would have

00:14:13.900 no chance. No glad. I'm actually really glad it didn't, oops, didn't get picked up when we were

00:14:18.320 pitching it, but the animosity and anger and intolerance towards, you know, conspiratorial

00:14:27.220 perspective has gotten so bad. But a couple of years ago, it wasn't. I mean, that, that was when

00:14:31.900 Mr. Robot was the most popular show, right? I mean, that's when the guy was winning Emmys for his role

00:14:36.700 as a conspiracy theorist on TV. And we were kind of trying to ride those coattails. Uh, and we almost

00:14:43.360 did. I mean, we had meetings with the biggest agency in Los Angeles, William Morris. We were

00:14:48.460 actually represented by them. They were sending us out to meet with people like comedy central and FX

00:14:53.880 and MTV and TBS. And they all watched our pilot, which was, you know, joy camp and they liked it.

00:15:02.440 And now try to get entertainment like that through. I mean, it's just interesting to see how,

00:15:06.420 how things have changed so drastically in the last couple of years.

00:15:10.120 It almost makes you wonder too. And I hear I'm, I'm familiar with William Morris too, of course.

00:15:14.100 Um, if some of them, they're watching those videos and they're like, Oh shoot, this is telling too

00:15:18.660 much. We know about these things. We can't have this come out. Right. Sometimes I wonder,

00:15:23.340 they wanted us to change who we, what we did. And that was what always my concern. I thought that if

00:15:28.180 our show got picked up, they would have creative control and I no longer would, which was a concern

00:15:32.240 because I didn't want to, you know, I didn't, I had integrity. Uh, so they kept wanting us to come

00:15:37.620 back with more ideas. They were like, liked us. They liked the talent that we possess and our

00:15:42.360 ability to make good content, but they thought, you know, it could be utilized in another direction.

00:15:47.460 And I just wasn't interested in doing anything but joy camp. So ultimately didn't work. And thank

00:15:52.280 God it didn't, but, uh, just to, yeah, weird, weird times. Yeah. I lived there too. And I had, uh,

00:16:00.800 some interesting experiences to say the least. And, and one of the biggest questions I got,

00:16:05.480 I know this is going to sound anti-Semitic. One of the biggest questions I always got though,

00:16:09.200 when I worked in music and film production was, are you Jewish? And, uh, had I have been Jewish,

00:16:14.920 I know that I would have been catapulted to the top and could have done anything I wanted to do there,

00:16:19.340 you know, but I, I, I saw things, I saw how things run. I saw how horrible a lot of these people are

00:16:26.360 there and I wanted nothing to do with it either. And no desire to be there whatsoever. It really

00:16:30.440 is a sick and deranged place. And I'm surprised you turned out so grounded being born in LA. Cause 0.98

00:16:35.020 a lot of times there's people that come, they're not born in LA, but then they come there and then

00:16:38.980 they just get chewed up and in every which way and spat out. Right. But most people, most people,

00:16:45.280 even if they achieve like, you know, celebrity fame, they get chewed up and spit out. I mean,

00:16:50.280 it's a, it's a brutal business that has no heart. I mean, that's one of the things I really

00:16:55.020 learned about Hollywood is that it's soulless. It doesn't care about anybody and it's only there

00:17:02.520 to serve and serve agendas. I mean, that's, it's, and it took me a while to really accept that.

00:17:06.060 Cause I didn't want to accept it. I wanted to think that there was, there could be some integrity

00:17:09.640 within that business and there simply cannot now more than ever you, if you have a country, a contrary

00:17:17.300 opinion, you will not be heard. They will not let you succeed. So it is on lockdown. It is only

00:17:24.760 there to prop up, you know, agendas and propaganda. That's right. Perpetuate propaganda.

00:17:30.780 It's a propaganda machine. Now you come from hippie liberal parents. So I wanted to get your

00:17:36.300 experience, boomer hippie liberal parents. This whole thing I saw you're, you do a mean Monday

00:17:41.500 show, which you have to tell us about that, but you got into the, in the beginning about Joe Rogan

00:17:46.260 versus some of these boomer hippies, like Neil Young and Joni Mitchell. And they were complaining, 0.86

00:17:51.720 right. To Spotify. They wanted Spotify to remove all his music because he's pushing vaccine 1.00

00:17:56.900 disinfo and all of that. Right. Uh, and then they removed their music in protest, which is

00:18:01.880 just completely cringe. I don't know. Tell, tell us about your thoughts on this.

00:18:06.020 Oh man. Well, I actually didn't know that Joni Mitchell was on that train.

00:18:08.460 Oh, there's a lot of them, a lot of them. And a lot of one stock musicians.

00:18:11.540 Her birthday. She's like, she's someone I've been, you know, always happy to say I have

00:18:15.720 a birthday with. That's really sad. Not anymore. Not surprising, unfortunately. Um, yeah, what

00:18:20.500 a mess. I mean, well, the hippie movement is another one of those things that it helped

00:18:26.220 me kind of understand that you could be that, how do I say this? I liked the anti-establishment

00:18:34.760 aspect of the sixties movement. You know, when I was a kid and my dad was telling me stories

00:18:39.740 about his time in Berkeley and stuff and watching whatever movies, documentaries about the time

00:18:45.460 and listening to the music, I was really inspired by it. And I was really inspired by the anti-establishment

00:18:51.180 aspect only to find out, you know, in my twenties that all most, if not all of what people experienced

00:19:00.040 in that movement was also at least somewhat of a psychological operation, uh, was also disheartening,

00:19:08.820 but you know, a good paradigm to crush. Um, but yeah, I mean, no, no wonder these people

00:19:14.620 are, are, are changing like this because they, they've always been a part of, again, another

00:19:20.640 propaganda machine, pop music, that music, all of that has been there in not, I don't try

00:19:26.460 to, I don't want to sound cynical, but it's hard to be mainstream during any era and have,

00:19:33.880 again, integrity and actually be on the, on the side of truth. So those people have been,

00:19:40.220 I mean, Neil Young has been a part of a disinformation campaign since the sixties.

00:19:46.200 Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And yeah, they're all, we're anti-establishment, but then they're being

00:19:51.500 propped up by the man in the system and the Hollywood machine and all that. And it is funny

00:19:56.680 how back then, you know, they're Woodstock, it's a free speech, it's a anti-war, it's all peace

00:20:02.700 in love and then fast, you know, fighting against the man. Fast forward to today, it's

00:20:06.500 big pharma and censorship and throw them in prison because they don't want the vaccine.

00:20:10.600 I mean, it's really, that is such a boomer thing right there. You know?

00:20:14.740 Yeah. One of my favorite memes is this one that's, uh, it says the old left versus the

00:20:19.100 new left. And on the, the, the old left, it's a, you know, a Volkswagen van with hippies 0.93

00:20:25.020 in it and it's saying pro free speech and no censorship, damn the man. And then the new 0.99

00:20:30.380 left is do everything you're told, trust authority, censor, censorship is good, all that. And it's

00:20:36.600 just like these two, you know, this is what's happened. That's right. This is how they've

00:20:40.400 controlled. They just used free speech, you know, as a, as a weapon to destroy free speech because

00:20:46.220 at the time they weren't in control. So, oh, free speech, free speech. And then once they get

00:20:49.840 control, they crush free speech, you know? But I think Joe Rogan, I just have to say, I'm not a,

00:20:54.300 not a fan of Joe Rogan, but he's making a hundred million dollars for Spotify's contract. So,

00:20:59.900 and I heard that the artists are getting, they have to get 350 plays to make a dollar.

00:21:06.140 So I don't think they really care about some of those musicians leaving, honestly.

00:21:11.200 Yeah. I mean, it's just, we're just watching me. I don't know. Can I say the word shit?

00:21:17.460 We're watching a shit show. It's a shit show. I feel like we're watching the collapse of, 1.00

00:21:21.180 you know, society. We're just watching it. The schism has been, COVID's like the splinter

00:21:27.080 and we're seeing this fracture now and there's no going back. People are, you're either in,

00:21:34.360 not to speak generally, but it's like you either are on this side of illogic, which is trust authority,

00:21:41.660 no matter what, or you're thinking. And that's where, and the bridge is hard to gap.

00:21:51.180 The gap is hard to bridge and you can't, you can't speak logically with people who are thinking

00:21:57.040 illogically. So we have this disconnect. It's very strange. It's very strange. And you teach a

00:22:03.900 course that gets into that. So I wanted to kind of get into that about communication. Now it's called

00:22:08.240 parhishia right now. Tell us what the word parhishia means. I had to look it up because I didn't know

00:22:13.660 this word. At first I thought it was a bird because I kept seeing you in bird logo.

00:22:17.020 A word I fell in love with a few years ago and it literally means free speech. It means to speak

00:22:22.300 boldly or freely, freedom of speech. So that's why I fell in love with it. It's been lost from our

00:22:28.420 lexicon. It says a Greek origin, but it's a beautiful word and I can see why it's sort of been lost

00:22:35.940 because it means freedom of speech. Um, so yeah, I mean, I, I, I see the, the tactics at work,

00:22:45.040 divide and conquer. I mean, it's, it is literally the oldest trick in the book and I refuse to accept

00:22:50.680 that I'm, I can't talk to, uh, people anymore or have a different opinion than someone anymore and

00:22:57.320 not be able to get along still. So I'm really trying to help people deal with their fractured

00:23:04.280 relationships and help people communicate more effectively with loved ones or strangers or

00:23:10.760 whoever, who may be seeing things a little differently and how to handle yourself in

00:23:16.420 conversations or confrontations in a way that won't get you ostracized or labeled, you know,

00:23:23.340 it's fill in the blank, conspiracy theorist, alt-right, crazy, whatever, how to avoid those

00:23:28.420 landmines and actually have a constructive conversation. And it's no small task, which

00:23:33.140 is why I had to create a whole course about it. But yeah, it's been a, it's been a really cool thing.

00:23:38.600 It's been going on for now over a year and people really like it. I'm in my third season and it's a,

00:23:44.480 it's a success. Now you gotta give us a little teaser. You gotta, you gotta share a few tips. Let's say

00:23:49.480 someone has a family member. Let's say they have liberal, a hippie boomer parents and they want to

00:23:54.200 have a conversation. They're, they're more on our side of things. They've woken up to things.

00:23:57.960 How do they even begin? I mean, cause that's a generational gap on top of it. Right. And which

00:24:02.300 is different probably than speaking to someone in your generation. I don't know, but it's so,

00:24:06.020 it's so polarized and so difficult nowadays for me, I've just given up on, on talking to a lot of

00:24:11.400 people that are on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Cause I feel like it's beating a dead

00:24:14.960 horse. You know what I mean? Unless it's old friends or family, I think that that's, that's

00:24:19.500 more important. You know, you have something in common that you can kind of get in there with,

00:24:23.400 but maybe you can share just a few tips for those people. Cause there's a lot of people that are in

00:24:27.400 that situation. Well, so this is where some of my very extensive acting training has come in very

00:24:33.320 handy. Cause when you, in acting school, you learn that in order to make a performance as a character,

00:24:39.800 believable, you have to seem like you're that character. You can't seem like you're lying. You have to be

00:24:44.340 telling the truth, but as a character. So you have to understand that character's motivations. So your

00:24:49.280 first job as an actor is to understand the intentions of the person that you're playing,

00:24:54.740 understand what motivates them, understand what their goals are. So I apply that to helping people

00:24:59.960 in conversation, understand your own motives first. Why are you saying what you're saying?

00:25:07.400 What's it for? What's your, what's your goal? What's your hope? If you're going to go to a, 0.94

00:25:11.280 you know, Thanksgiving dinner and try to talk about something controversial,

00:25:15.900 understand why first. So understand your own goals. Are you hoping to just stand up for truth

00:25:22.800 no matter what? Are you hoping to change their mind? Are you hoping that they'll just listen to you?

00:25:27.160 Are you hoping they won't think you're crazy? Like really understand what motivates you before you

00:25:30.260 embark in some of these difficult conversations. And then once you're in it,

00:25:36.280 once you're in it, okay, every, every conversation, every person is different. So every

00:25:45.600 encounter is going to be slightly different and it's up to you to respond to what you're dealing

00:25:52.380 with. So a lot of it is listening. A lot of it is feeling the person out. And a lot of it is just

00:25:59.180 being subtle and not too emotionally engaged because our emotions can get the better of us.

00:26:08.080 And again, understand your motivation. Are you really trying to change their mind? If that's

00:26:12.880 your motivation to change their mind about a topic, you're probably going to be unsuccessful.

00:26:17.180 So maybe set a more realistic intention. I want to just mention something in a way that

00:26:23.900 they can hear it. That'll spark their interest about this topic and then find your way in. And

00:26:29.220 you can find your way in with a person by appealing to the victim nature in them. We're dealing in a

00:26:35.140 very victimized culture. Everyone feels like they're a victim in some way. That's your in like

00:26:41.900 that's your in. So enter through that point, the victim part and build a rapport, get them to trust

00:26:48.220 you. Show that you care about the same things. This is a lot, but it's important. Build a rapport.

00:26:54.800 They have to know that they can trust you and not just think you're some lunatic. So establish trust,

00:27:02.460 establish rapport that you care about the same things. Then they're going to be more willing to

00:27:08.300 hear what you have to say. And then if you actually do say something that, you know, is an idea that

00:27:16.300 could lead to bigger understanding and they listen and they hear it and they don't reject it outright

00:27:21.300 immediately, don't fire hose them with more. This is, this is like the hardest thing for people.

00:27:26.480 People, if someone gives them an inch, they just avalanche all of their thoughts about everything

00:27:32.220 onto them without actually reading the room, without letting it's letting themselves see how

00:27:38.000 it's landing. You know, it's, it's a dance. It's nuanced. So anyway, it's a lot. I mean,

00:27:44.740 this is a 10 week course. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. But what happens, what happens if it turns ugly

00:27:49.800 that you're in a conversation with someone and let's say it's someone, you know, and it just,

00:27:54.540 a stranger, you could just walk away or whatever. I just, I'm not going to talk to you. Like someone

00:27:58.460 that, you know, what if it turns ugly, that fire hose? Oh shit. I, you know, pulled out the fire 1.00

00:28:02.880 hose and this has gone bad. No. Yeah. You have to be, you have to be delicate, especially when it

00:28:09.220 comes to these issues that have been so we, they're, they're, they're polarizing. They are,

00:28:16.960 and people are really, they're willing to fight for their ideas, for their opinions. And you have

00:28:21.920 to be really delicate kids gloves and know that your facts don't matter. So it's a, it's a really

00:28:30.520 interesting time to try to bring perspective into a conversation because there's a thousand landmines 1.00

00:28:37.360 between us. Uh, so yeah, I mean, it's, it's a lot, but I think the primary goal for me with the course

00:28:46.280 is to get people feeling like they're representing themselves well, no matter what. So no matter what

00:28:53.160 the outcome of the encounter, the conversation, the confrontation, the presentation, whatever it is, 0.99

00:28:58.500 they feel good about how they handled themselves and they're not walking away thinking, damn, 0.98

00:29:03.360 that could have gone better. Or I should have said this or, Oh, if only, you know, she had said this 0.93

00:29:09.600 response and I could have said that, you know, so we don't think about how it could have been

00:29:13.800 different, but we are feeling good about how we conducted ourselves and releasing expectation.

00:29:20.600 Yep. I think too, you, you get into, is it communicating boldly without self doubt,

00:29:26.020 right? Freeing, freeing your speech. And I have found that for me, that has taken practice,

00:29:30.700 right? And probably for you too, you just life practice, right? You become seasoned as you go

00:29:35.800 and you go through experience and then you're like, Oh, that's who I am. That's the seed of who I am.

00:29:42.460 That's a, this is my voice. This is how I speak. I found my voice and it's a, it's a journey.

00:29:46.980 So how do you help, you know, guide someone to, they say, I want to find my voice. I want to have

00:29:52.740 confidence in the things that I am saying. Well, again, this is like a, this is 10 weeks worth of

00:29:58.760 tutelage, but for instance, I actually, tonight, my class today, I'm doing a, it's a whole presentation

00:30:05.260 on self doubt and how to handle it. And basically making the point that doubt is a killer. Fear is a

00:30:16.100 killer. And I think too many people get hung up on trying to eradicate fear and self doubt altogether.

00:30:24.940 And I think that's all, I think that's an intention, a goal that is hard to reach. And it can be so

00:30:31.020 hard to reach that you give up on it. So the key is to

00:30:38.380 sorry, it just kind of froze up a little bit. Oh, we lost him. I got to bring him back. I love that.

00:30:58.900 It's the key is cut. All right. So we'll, uh, pause just for a second and then try and bring

00:31:05.280 back. He's back. Let's see. Yeah. Like I said, it's like a, this is, this is how rural we are.

00:31:10.040 It goes in a cycle every now and then it pops out the pros and cons. You were saying the key is,

00:31:15.000 and then you're cut off figures of course. Well, the key is to not let self doubt get in your way of

00:31:20.880 taking action. So even if you're nervous, don't let the nerves keep you from doing the things you

00:31:27.160 know you need to do. So I'm helping. So with a self doubt class, like tonight, I'm giving people

00:31:31.720 tips on how to take action in spite of themselves, how to fake it till you make it essentially. And

00:31:38.040 to, and the keys to that are, you know, drawing on your own experience, really start with your own

00:31:45.120 experience. What's a time when you were so scared of a moment, but you conquered it anyway.

00:31:49.700 And remember that because you've already done this. This isn't the first time you may have,

00:31:54.920 you nerves will never go away, but if you get in the habit of being able to act in spite of yourself,

00:32:00.640 you may notice at some point, the self doubt is gone, but don't make self conquering self doubt.

00:32:06.120 The goal there's workarounds, you know, how to take, how to take nervous energy and turn it into real

00:32:11.880 energy because it's all it is. So how do you take nerves and use them to your advantage? Um,

00:32:18.820 yeah. And remember that every moment comes and goes, the, the anxiety, the regret is a worse

00:32:29.700 feeling than having anxiety about a moment that's about to happen. So if you're nervous about the

00:32:37.660 confrontation, the conversation you're going to have, or the thing you that that's right in front

00:32:41.580 of you that you're scared to do, just know that if you don't do it, the regret is a worse feeling

00:32:46.760 than the nervousness, the self doubt, the anxiety you're feeling before the moment.

00:32:52.480 Um, and I contextualize it. I mean, I get people really thinking about their own successes already

00:32:57.920 because we've all, we're all, we're all still alive because of a certain level of success.

00:33:02.560 So getting them feeling good about themselves, really, you know, getting people to like shrug

00:33:08.780 off all the baggage that we build up over time and remember who they are. Yeah. It's about also

00:33:14.940 relaxing and just kind of letting things go. I think we're in a society now that I hear

00:33:19.600 from so many people have panic attacks and anxiety and it's just heightened with all these things

00:33:24.940 going on. I think that they feel things, real physical things, but then there's, you know,

00:33:28.520 spiritual things and then who knows, maybe 5g is even contributing, but people are more anxious than

00:33:33.720 ever and fearful and just, they can't, it's hard for them to communicate. And then they're on their

00:33:38.260 devices all the time and it's these Twitter messages. And so, uh, the art of communication has

00:33:43.400 definitely been lost because people could just shout and then delete and run away, you know, but what you

00:33:47.940 were saying earlier about anxiety. I think that that's, that's spoken true in my life or my

00:33:52.160 experience too. It's the, the anxiety in the first few minutes before something happens is worse than

00:33:58.100 you actually doing the thing once you do it, right? It's kind of like you have to play mind games with

00:34:03.680 yourself because once you're actually in it, it's not that bad. It's amazing how you, you fear anxiety.

00:34:09.760 It's crazy. The movie version of reality, the movie, our imaginations will make things far worse

00:34:16.720 than they actually are. Yeah. Almost every single time you, you, you get hung up thinking about it

00:34:22.540 and you visualize it and you watch it like a movie and you're terrified of that outcome. But then you

00:34:27.100 actually go through it and you're like, Oh, it wasn't so bad. Even if it was bad, you're like, well,

00:34:30.660 it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Um, and that's life. That's like everything.

00:34:34.800 Yeah. And then the more you do it, you kind of, you, you retrain your brain because I think there's

00:34:40.200 neural pathways that have to be reprogrammed once you're living in the state of fear and panic and

00:34:45.220 anxiety all the time, which by the way, uh, are the people in control. They love that because they

00:34:50.920 can manipulate that and steer you. And you're in this fight or flight mode all the time. And you're

00:34:54.980 not, you're not thinking properly. Right. Yeah. Well, even there, you guys, you have this smartphone

00:35:00.700 addiction on the screen. He mentions, you know, social media and stuff. I think social media is

00:35:06.760 the reason why we don't know how to communicate anymore. I think that is the linchpin it's social

00:35:11.140 media. We have forgotten how to communicate and talk to each other because of social media. And I

00:35:15.300 think the powers that be know that I think is one of the reasons why we've been all geared towards,

00:35:19.320 you know, typed messages. You cannot convey accurately an emotion in a type message. You don't know

00:35:27.160 you're, you're also not experiencing how you're saying is landing on the person. You're not hearing

00:35:32.100 them respond in real time. It's completely disjointed and it's disconnected us from each

00:35:37.540 other. We're more connected than ever, but we're more disconnected than ever. And so the first thing

00:35:43.220 I tell people, if you're going to have a confrontation, if you're going to have a conversation, a difficult

00:35:46.740 conversation where you talk about a difficult subject, don't do it online. Don't ever do it online.

00:35:52.180 Avoid online. Who's ever won an online debate? I mean, a typed online debate that is, you know,

00:35:58.400 it's, it's, you're just going to waste your energy and you're going to end up not liking the person

00:36:03.240 more too, because you're not, again, you're not going to have the empathetic feel of a conversation.

00:36:06.600 So get out from behind the screen and talk to the person in real life.

00:36:12.100 It's true. We have all these new problems now because before it used to be, I even thinking in

00:36:16.460 terms of, you know, Republican and Democrat used to be people could still go have drinks together.

00:36:20.900 You have friends with different political views. You can go, go out and do things. It's really

00:36:25.780 changed since the, you know, the Facebooks and the Twitters and, and the media just really just

00:36:32.160 spinning things out of control. It is so hard to just be friends with, or have a conversation with

00:36:38.120 somebody who is your political opposite. And I think actually it's people more like us that are

00:36:42.760 more willing to have those conversations and branch out and be willing to just speak freely.

00:36:47.820 But I find a lot of the times it's people on the other side of things that are the ones who are

00:36:53.360 just unwilling because they see, you know, articles like we were showing earlier, like just don't talk

00:36:57.860 to conspiracy theorists or just don't talk to a so-called, you know, white supremacist or whatever,

00:37:03.320 insert whatever you want there. You know, it's like they're encouraging people to not do any

00:37:08.260 critical thinking and debate with people or have free and open conversations. I mean, we're living in

00:37:14.240 a time of censorship and banning. You don't like it. Just censor it or ban it and delete it and block

00:37:18.080 it, you know? Yeah. So then how about use your voice to find the people like you, which is kind

00:37:25.820 of the more important thing anyway. How do you use your, utilize your voice in a way that draws the

00:37:30.500 right people to you? Cause I think that's ultimately more important. I mean, like I said, this, this

00:37:35.560 society is so fractured now and certain powers at B are going to do everything they can to pull their

00:37:42.780 plans through to the end zone. So we have to, you know, make plans accordingly. And that comes from,

00:37:52.100 we solve problems by putting our heads together. So I think, you know, well, there is a, there is,

00:37:57.800 it is important to try to bridge the gap between people you have established relationships and already

00:38:02.940 love, but use your voice in a way that attracts people to you who live near you, who are around

00:38:09.140 you, build a community, have a support system, have a, you know, your own think tank where you can come

00:38:15.480 up with solutions together and make the system obsolete. That's right. Yeah. And you had a video,

00:38:22.520 you said, who is they, and it doesn't really matter who, who they is that is fighting against

00:38:27.460 you because the, the solution is us, right? I mean, I think it's good to identify the captains,

00:38:32.660 but at the end of the day, it's about just noncompliance and saying no and realizing that

00:38:37.760 we do need the, those bigger collective numbers. And I know people in our scene for a long time,

00:38:42.820 you were like that too. We were, oh, we can't be a collectivist, right? For a long time, we were

00:38:47.160 talking like that. But the term, it was, it was shunned by, by many of us. But now we know that we

00:38:52.420 need a lot of good people to come as a collective or to collectivize, to, to have influence and,

00:38:57.780 and power in numbers, right? Absolutely. Yeah. And the more you are surrounded by people that

00:39:05.100 are like you, you know, not that you need to be on the same page with what every single thing,

00:39:10.180 with every person you're around. I think that actually gets kind of boring, but when you're

00:39:14.380 around people like you, you don't feel so alone. You don't feel so crazy. You feel motivated. You feel

00:39:19.280 sane again. You feel like things are possible. It's good to have friends. So using your voice in a way

00:39:26.680 that can get you new friends and not just hung up on the people that are taking the bait is really

00:39:34.740 important because those people taking the bait while it's, it's heartbreakingly frustrating,

00:39:40.120 man, they're the low hanging fruit. Like they got it bad. I mean, blue being blue pilled right now

00:39:46.300 is a pretty horrific nightmarish scenario and I don't envy them at all. So I'm mad to an extent

00:39:52.980 because it's their compliance. It's sort of perpetuating this nonsense. But at the same

00:39:57.600 time, like they're in hell and I'm not, and I'm very grateful for that.

00:40:02.660 So I have to disagree with you on one thing. I think it's a whole lot of fun hanging out with

00:40:07.160 people that think like us. And I think it's very boring hanging out with people that don't think

00:40:11.380 like us. Every time I try and bring in some like, or I mean more like normie tier, you know what I mean?

00:40:17.640 There's a, there's different levels of, you know, things that we can have in common and stuff. But

00:40:21.760 anytime I'm like, sure, I'll give it a shot. I'll hang out with this normie person. I'm always just

00:40:25.820 bored. I'm like, I don't need to do this. I have so many friends that are cool to talk with, you know?

00:40:31.360 Wait, wait, I'm sorry. Well, who are you saying is boring to hang out with?

00:40:33.880 Oh, people that don't think like us. We don't have anything in common.

00:40:37.420 I don't like hanging out with them either. Oh, we're on the same page. I don't want to,

00:40:40.520 I mean, that's the thing. Like have those conversations when you need to have them. If it's like

00:40:44.080 your mom or your, your son or your brother, you know, any of these relationships that you,

00:40:49.380 cause you care, you don't want them to be swallowed up by the system. Um, but to hang

00:40:53.900 out with them. Oh, I mean, come on. That's not fun anymore. I don't want to talk about garbage

00:40:59.420 television or Netflix or, or the, or the latest variant. Omicron. I'm pretty sure I just had that 0.60

00:41:06.900 by the way. And I'm still alive. So life, I wanted to play one of your videos, uh, about freedom

00:41:12.280 because freedom is a conversation that's been coming up a lot. It's a good question. Many of

00:41:16.160 us are asking like we didn't before. Um, people think freedom is like, you know, good old Patriots

00:41:21.340 and you know, all that kind of stuff, but no, we're, we're rethinking what it means to be free

00:41:25.500 these days. But I want to play this, uh, good little video that you made. It looks like you shot this

00:41:29.200 in Idaho. True.

00:41:31.600 Is true freedom possible? If so, how bad do you want it? Would you work for it? Would you fight

00:41:52.520 for it? Would you lay down your life for it? How important is freedom to you? What if it meant

00:42:02.880 throwing away your television forever, never watching another movie again? What if it meant

00:42:11.780 turning off your cell phone permanently, not temporarily from time to time or now and then?

00:42:21.640 Could you sacrifice text messages? Could you move without GPS? Could you give away everything

00:42:32.020 you own or possess? Could you shut down your computer and never turn it back on? Could you let go of

00:42:41.760 your email and let it stay gone? Could you surrender free shipping from Amazon?

00:42:51.640 What if, what if true freedom were contingent upon you leaving the grid, saying goodbye to electricity

00:43:04.020 and everything that it did once and for all and back to the land for going career and a 401

00:43:11.060 one plan? Would you do it? Would you go through with it? How far would you go to be free?

00:43:24.100 What is freedom? Is it having sex as much as you want with whoever, whenever, for fun? Or is it refraining

00:43:34.420 and abstaining from sexual urges until marriage when flesh becomes one? Is freedom doing whatever you

00:43:44.460 please, self-serving your interests for pleasure? Or is it achieved through selflessly serving

00:43:50.800 where deeds aren't rewarded with treasures?

00:43:55.240 I'm honestly asking what freedom is and what does it mean to you? Is it government taxation or forced

00:44:05.900 vaccination? Or is it the freedom to choose?

00:44:10.860 freedom to choose? How do we untangle this knot that we're in? How do we emerge from our fog of subjective

00:44:19.940 morality, despotic brutality, imbalance at home and abroad? Freedom literally means not being enslaved

00:44:32.960 by men, women, or ourselves. In my opinion, opinions can enslave us. Habits and routines can as well.

00:44:46.880 Allowances can devour us. Blind spots can bind us. Comforts can keep us in hell.

00:44:55.660 So what is freedom? And how bad do you want it? What path are you willing to take? The one with the

00:45:06.220 pavement and LED streetlights? Or the uncertain one? The dirt one that's narrow alongside the lake?

00:45:18.400 It's funny, Manny, because even when you're being serious, I still find you funny.

00:45:28.120 That's good.

00:45:28.740 Even though I know I'm like, yes, this is all deep and this is good, but I'm still, I still chuckle.

00:45:34.920 Which is good.

00:45:35.760 I like that. That was always one of my, one of my strengths as an actor too. I mean,

00:45:39.860 when I was doing theater for, you know, over 10 years of my life, no matter what the role was,

00:45:45.180 I'd always be able to get laughs whenever, whatever character I was playing. That's why,

00:45:49.500 well, that's why I turned to comedy. I mean, I was a classically trained theater actor and then I

00:45:53.520 ended up doing sketch comedy. So.

00:45:55.560 But yet what you say here is incredibly deep. You know, what is freedom? And everyone is

00:46:00.760 rethinking that. And everyone has different answers to that. Like you say too, is it getting the

00:46:05.240 vaccine? Isn't being able to not get the vaccine? You know what I mean? It's just, it's a matter of who

00:46:10.720 you ask. And a lot of times I wonder like if this planet is even meant to be, you know, just peace

00:46:17.020 and love and freedom. It's, it's hell a lot of the times. And I think that's for a reason. I think,

00:46:22.180 well, one, it's about learning to overcome weaknesses and come as close to, to the gauze

00:46:27.740 as we can. I think through going through the, the, the path right on the path through the fire.

00:46:31.980 But for me, I was thinking about this and what, what is freedom for me? And it's really just the

00:46:36.080 simple things like to be left alone, to have my family and, and do the work that I love and be

00:46:41.060 with the friends that I love and, and just do the simple things without someone always wanting

00:46:45.820 something from me or trying to control me or trying to manipulate me or force me to do things I don't

00:46:51.060 want to do, you know? Right. Exactly. Well, that, I mean, that poem is an, it really is an honest

00:46:57.140 contemplation of the word freedom. And yeah, I mean, same thing for me. I think that freedom for me is

00:47:04.440 just being left alone. Like, let me, I'll be, let me figure it out myself. And as long as I have a

00:47:11.320 strong moral center and I know when I'm hurting someone or helping someone, uh, I'll be, I, you

00:47:20.600 know, I, I don't need anyone else to make decisions for me. And I think that's what freedom means to

00:47:24.960 me being, you know, I like, uh, consent based reality. Yeah, exactly. To me, it's not a, I guess

00:47:33.200 the Patriot version, I would say they, they think freedom is a limited government and still being

00:47:38.440 able to go to your football games without being vaccinated. It's a bit deeper for me on those

00:47:42.880 questions. You know, I think for a lot of us, well, I know there's a, exactly. Well, that's why I'm

00:47:49.980 posing the question because it's been, it's on the line right now. And people have different

00:47:56.800 interpretations of different ideas and different definitions. And I'm, I've really been contemplating

00:48:01.120 it. Well, what is freedom? What does it mean to me? What does it mean to you? What is, what is it?

00:48:05.680 I know that I don't want anyone else dictating my, you know, making decisions that I can't make for

00:48:13.440 myself or thinking that they have a better interest at heart. Like I don't, I'm not cool with that.

00:48:17.660 And it's a, it's a dire time. I've noticed a lot of people are realizing that this, all the stuff

00:48:22.620 with the vaccine and the COVID stuff, we're seeing the trucker convoy, which is great. Like if we

00:48:26.820 don't put our foot down now, it's just going to get far worse and all, and then we'll be looking

00:48:32.040 back and remember the freedoms that we had when we can sit and talk about blah, blah, blah, you know,

00:48:36.780 even that, even that is going to be gone. Right. Yeah. They're making it harder and harder. I mean,

00:48:43.540 it's, there's no representation. This is, this is obviously the problem. Like there is

00:48:47.540 no representation, uh, from anyone who has a contradicting point of view in the mainstream.

00:48:54.840 That just doesn't happen anymore. You're not allowed to, if you do, you get demonized,

00:48:58.460 you're discredited. You are, you know, you're, well, you're treated like what they're trying

00:49:02.400 to do with Joe Rogan. Like I I'm with you. I'm not the biggest fan of Joe Rogan, but what's

00:49:06.260 happening is obnoxious. Like he's, he just had a, it was, I think it's because of the Malone

00:49:11.760 interview. Right. But yeah, you're not allowed to have any other point of view now. I mean,

00:49:16.560 we're at, we're at a place now. Literally, I was telling my friend on the phone this today where

00:49:19.820 I could tell if I got the, if I got the vaccine and then the next day I had Bell's palsy and half

00:49:26.860 my body. And I were to tell somebody that who believes in the science and trust the science

00:49:31.540 and believes the vaccine is a savior. They wouldn't believe me. They'd be like, well, it wasn't the

00:49:36.260 vaccine. Like, no, look, look at my face. It's, it's hanging off. It's hanging off my head. I got

00:49:41.560 the vaccine yesterday. They'd be like, it's not the vaccine. Like that's where we're at. People

00:49:45.460 think that Omicron is not that bad because they have three vaccines. Like we're dealing with absolute

00:49:51.520 nonsense. Yeah, I know what wild times. And one of the things that all of us keep talking about

00:49:59.020 as we're seeing where this is going is a community building tribe, building village,

00:50:03.940 building your village, an alternative economy, if you will, right? A parallel structure of

00:50:10.700 some kind, just in case, just in case things start getting bad. Well, they already.

00:50:14.460 Well, for the best, prepare for the worst.

00:50:15.680 They are. Yeah, exactly. They already are getting bad. And one of those things that's important

00:50:19.880 is parenting and raising kids, which is very, is very difficult in these, in this day and

00:50:25.680 age. I look back and think of when I grew up in Portland, Oregon, I was born in Portland,

00:50:29.960 Oregon, and it was so different. Like I was a teenager running around the streets with my

00:50:33.340 older brother. We could go to grunge shows and there wasn't squatters and these like

00:50:37.560 communists on the street killing cops. And it's like, man, things have changed so fast.

00:50:42.000 You know, I worry about the future for our children. And one of those things that's so

00:50:45.000 important right now is parenting. A lot of people say, oh, it's bad times. You shouldn't

00:50:48.660 have kids. No, in bad times, it's when good people need to have a lot of kids. I think in

00:50:52.340 terms of also my, my grandparents and my great grandparents, you know, fleeing the Bolshevik

00:50:57.420 revolution and stuff, they did it with six, seven kids, you know, and some bad things

00:51:02.660 happened to a couple of them, but thank God that they had all those kids that they did

00:51:06.460 because then they're still alive today. You know, our generation continues, but thinking

00:51:11.660 in terms of kids, you have another baby on the way. So how was the first one? Was it a

00:51:16.780 shock for you? Cause everyone's always like, I'm having my first baby. And I know the first

00:51:19.980 baby is always more shocking. And everyone always tells me once you add them on, right.

00:51:23.380 The second baby is actually more shocking than the first. But first of all, I just want

00:51:27.960 to say, I agree with everything you said. I think that the, and I say this, I say this,

00:51:34.240 I've said this actually in front of crowds when I've given performances about the significance

00:51:37.900 of having kids and, you know, not to say that having a kid is not for everybody. So that's

00:51:42.880 not what I'm saying. But if people decide to not have kids because they think the world

00:51:48.780 is too messed up, then I think they're playing right into the hand of the enemy.

00:51:52.440 And the enemy has them exactly where they want them. Um, cause show me a time when things

00:51:58.780 aren't challenging. I mean, that's part of this experience I think is it's, you know,

00:52:02.700 we have to persevere and there's always going to be evil. There's always going to be adversity

00:52:06.440 and we have to, you know, work around it, uh, in spite of it. So I'm all about having

00:52:12.800 kids. I, I don't know how many we'll have, but we have one who's a year and a half and we

00:52:18.340 have another one coming in April. And the first one was planned for, uh,

00:52:22.440 I mean, we didn't know exactly when it would happen, but we definitely were, uh, open to

00:52:27.080 it happening to our son being born. And the second one was more of a shock, but we are

00:52:33.400 very excited now. And yeah, I think having kids is one of the best defenses, one of the

00:52:40.120 best things you can do to counter the agendas. Uh, and yeah, it's challenging. And I think

00:52:50.680 about it all the time. I think about what it means for me to have a kid and like the selflessness

00:52:55.080 that it's sort of had to bring out in me. And I don't know, I've been, it's, it feels

00:53:00.680 like my story is now not as important as his story, my son's story and my, uh, my next son's

00:53:06.240 story. So it's a, it's been a real, uh, there's been growing pains. I mean, I've been, I've been

00:53:12.040 forced to become more of a man in the past year and a half. And that's a good thing, but it's also

00:53:18.760 been hard. It's, it's been, again, it's a, it's a, it's a ongoing lesson in patience and

00:53:25.720 selflessness. And yeah, I mean, taking it one day at a time and nothing holds up a mirror,

00:53:33.160 like getting married and having kids. It's a big mirror reflecting at you and you, you see your,

00:53:40.020 your weaknesses, you see your strengths, you know? So if you really are on the path, if you will,

00:53:45.860 of, um, you know, self-development, having kids and having a family, having a husband and a wife

00:53:51.860 is definitely going to speed that along, you know, but it's the most fulfilling.

00:53:55.900 I can't, I can't, it makes so much sense to me. Like it's so obvious that a kid needs a mother and

00:54:00.760 a father, you know, and that's something that our society has definitely tried to make it seem like

00:54:05.520 is, you know, just to, it can be that way, but it also doesn't have to be that way. And it's actually

00:54:10.460 maybe even better if it's not that way sometimes. And that's ridiculous. Like I think about, 0.95

00:54:14.000 I, I, I, healthy family is a mother and a father and kids and you, cause there's a balance. The man

00:54:21.420 has certain strengths and the woman has certain strengths and certain things that the other one 1.00

00:54:25.920 can't do and provide. And it creates this balance for the child that is necessary for their development.

00:54:34.760 Um, yeah. And I also, I also don't understand how anyone would want to have a kid to try to like

00:54:41.040 save a relationship. That to me was just seemed like a death sentence because it's a challenging

00:54:47.380 thing for a relationship. I mean, it's certainly, you know, it takes your relation to the next level

00:54:53.400 to a place you can't even really fathom until you experience it. And it really tests your teamwork

00:55:00.060 and tests your ability to navigate through surprising challenges that are popping up all

00:55:06.920 the time. And it's, uh, I, I couldn't have done it with anybody else. Like I ha it had to be my wife,

00:55:14.260 who you're, who you know, it had to be her and it couldn't have been anyone else because I couldn't,

00:55:18.340 I wouldn't have been able to handle it with anyone else. It has to be your teammate and someone

00:55:23.160 you really love. I mean, with all your heart. Absolutely. And I love her and you guys are

00:55:30.060 definitely soulmates. The other thing that's made me realize, I know we're going to wrap up here

00:55:33.660 soon, but traditionalism and older times versus now, I always say, I think when we hear the word

00:55:38.300 traditional or traditional, I always say in what era, right? Are we talking about like pre-Christian 0.98

00:55:43.580 Viking times? Are we talking about thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, eighties? It's just,

00:55:48.740 it's very different. And I think it kind of needs a little bit of a tweaking or updating right now to,

00:55:54.100 to fit our current problems. Cause not everyone has the kind of luxuries that they had, let's say

00:55:58.980 like the 1950s housewife, for instance, we're dealing with new battles and new stuff and new

00:56:03.960 stresses. And it's a harder time, but the most important thing is having that masculine and that,

00:56:09.200 that feminine that that's there for the family. And you just kind of naturally fall into some of those

00:56:13.440 roles, but it doesn't mean that Benny isn't going to cook a dinner sometimes. Cause I know you're a good cook,

00:56:17.460 right? Yeah. There's about, I mean, yeah, you, you, you, you scratch each other's bag,

00:56:22.300 you pick up the slack for the other ones sometimes and you find yourself in certain roles and it's okay

00:56:28.560 to not be so married to some of those every, I don't know, you know, you find a flow and yeah,

00:56:35.140 I mean, I think that we're dealing with, let me say, how do I say this right? Progressivism.

00:56:41.900 Like that is the problem. Progressivism, the, the, the, the, the ideology, the mindset that

00:56:48.340 everything always needs to change because what's, what is, or what has been is flawed or outdated or

00:56:55.320 whatever, misogynistic, homophobic. And then we always be progressing towards the future,

00:57:00.440 which is really just a trick to think people into wanting big government. The government will solve

00:57:06.460 all the problems of the previous, you know, outdated situation. Nope. It's up to us. As you say,

00:57:14.180 well, Benny, tell us about all your websites and what you have going on and where people can find

00:57:18.020 you and take your course and all of that. Sure. Well, my course is called Parhigia,

00:57:23.180 the art of communication. It's actually in week one right now. Like I'm, I had my introductory

00:57:28.560 prologue presentation last week and my first meet and greet workshop with students,

00:57:33.640 but tonight's the first presentation. So if someone's interested, who's listening you can

00:57:39.140 go to the website that's on the screen right now and sign up. Just know that only the standard tier,

00:57:44.320 the least expensive tier is still available. And the other two are sold out, but if you want in,

00:57:49.420 now's a good time because we're just getting started and you won't be behind. And if not,

00:57:55.140 maybe just sign up for my mailing list so you can be in the loop for future seasons. And the easiest

00:57:59.140 way to do that is to watch my meme show. So I do a weekly meme show, meme roundup on my YouTube

00:58:04.820 channel, but it's also my bitch shoot and my Brideon and my Odyssey channel where I collect 0.95

00:58:10.880 the week's best memes, in my opinion, and present them in a show. And you can sign up for the meme

00:58:16.680 mailing list where I'll send you a link with a zip drive of all the episodes, memes that you can use

00:58:23.460 to, um, scour the internet, your social media platforms with, because I think that memes are

00:58:28.820 the best thing on social media and they document the times really well. They tell a story very

00:58:33.660 simply and they're funny. So I'm a big fan. So I host a meme show and you can get my mailing list

00:58:39.480 that way. And yeah, I'm somehow still on YouTube. So it's joy camp, but I'm also on the other ones

00:58:45.500 as well. I mean, a few of them anyway, bitch shoot Brideon Odyssey. And if you, if that was 1.00

00:58:51.460 too much information, just go to BennyWills.com. Awesome. Well, thank you for dropping by. It's

00:58:55.420 always, always a pleasure friend and neighbor. Yes. Yeah. So we'll have you over for dinner soon.

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Red Ice TV - February 01, 2022

Leaving The City, Overcoming Fear, What Is Freedom？ - Benny Wills

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