Red Ice TV - Minnesota Meltdown： North Star State ICE Insurrection In Full Swing - Flashback Friday Ep338

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00:08:29.820 The point is the people who are

00:08:31.520 identifying in these political tribes are

00:08:33.520 are now two separate nations and if you actually think through what these people in Minneapolis are rioting about, it's the idea that Somalis have the inherent right to be in the country and receive welfare via fraud and also were willing to attack federal agents and if necessary die on their behalf.

00:09:23.840 political change in the winds we're going to put you all in jail and take away all your stuff 0.59

00:09:27.980 unfortunately those guys were led by a guy named caesar and that worked out a little bit differently

00:09:32.800 than i think the guys who were running the republic were hoping oh gosh you kind of wonder

00:09:36.500 you kind of wonder like we talk about the rubicon the rubicon the rubicon yeah i don't think it's

00:09:41.000 going to happen yeah trump is not caesar but this is kind of how it starts i mean like this is

00:09:47.500 exactly how it starts in fact i mean it this is not going to go away it's not going to simmer

00:09:52.180 down this is not good you know this is just gonna it's gonna escalate and escalate and escalate and

00:09:56.480 i mean it's your you have an insurrection on your hands it's it's there's people on the state level

00:10:02.820 that are literally saying like you know remember there was a time of like oh that this you know

00:10:08.040 impeding a federal law enforcement agent it's like these are how you know fbi charge you know comes in

00:10:12.580 and there's charges and shit and now it's just it's it's every it's steeped everywhere the media 0.97

00:10:16.900 politicians academia shitly organization it's everywhere right it's unstoppable 0.95

00:10:21.760 of soar's right you've got these democratic politicians saying things like well the state

00:10:26.780 has the right to resist these this federal invasion i'm like well i'm here in virginia i mean i wish we

00:10:32.040 had known about that back in the day we wouldn't be facing these problems right now i think a lot of

00:10:36.320 southerners are looking at minnesota right now being like yeah how does it feel yeah exactly it's true

00:10:41.360 you know no it's true it's also there's like the kind of what is it uh a card that you can like you get

00:10:47.720 out of responding to law enforcement today or something like everyone gets one check where they

00:10:53.120 don't have to comply to anybody we got some clips on this obviously later but like i mean i know they're 0.98

00:10:58.600 kind of they're idiots many of them but like do they really just not understand how this works like 0.97

00:11:03.140 if you're impeding law enforcement and federal officers or like you're having an ongoing operation 1.00

00:11:07.960 you're gonna end up in trouble like you just like i said on the show the other day we've all been

00:11:14.840 pulled over and if you are pulled over and you decide halfway through the traffic stop you know what

00:11:21.160 i don't want to deal with this i think i'm just going to drive away or even better if there are two

00:11:26.380 officers there and one of them's in front of your car and you just hit the gas and say you know what

00:11:31.360 i'm just going to leave and then when they light you up you go that's not fair i was just trying

00:11:35.500 to escape yeah it was like i didn't know you could do that of course yeah i would i would approach

00:11:40.660 many situations in my life differently like if that was the case all right but before i get to

00:11:44.920 the serious business here we got uh we got some good news everybody finally i know we're all waiting

00:11:50.580 because oh my gosh rumble was just dead out there for a while but now finally dan bongino he's back

00:11:57.220 everybody he's finally back at the streaming chair at the rumble offices oh this is karate man

00:12:05.360 double leg the double the jump kick the side kick the roundhouse the tie kick

00:12:15.200 body

00:12:18.100 i'm glad we're getting that instead of like running the fbi

00:12:27.520 is this what is it it's funny though when you think about it because so much is about kind of

00:12:33.540 like attaining political power right or like getting into a position where you can like change

00:12:38.380 things i mean i i'm not obviously a regular viewer of dan bongino but you know because you have seen

00:12:42.620 clips and here and there i've tuned in just you know but anyway and it's not that he's on our side

00:12:47.580 of things obviously uh maybe there's brief overlaps here and there but it was like you know

00:12:51.880 we got to do something right let's deal with the corruption or this epstein thing or you know

00:12:56.020 whatever it is that they had going on at the time and then he actually ascends to some i mean it's

00:12:59.880 fairly significant level of of power or influence or insight into the government number two in the

00:13:05.180 fbi office and man some of those clips just look like hostage hostage videos what the hell happened

00:13:10.900 then he's out we had this echoed by marjorie taylor green for example as well right like right it's

00:13:15.820 just like you can't you can't do anything like it's it's basically pointless do they is it that

00:13:21.760 they can't do anything or they don't want to do anything i mean you look at marjorie taylor green

00:13:25.240 she did all these signals where on the one hand she's saying oh we're going to get rid of h1b visas 1.00

00:13:29.500 i'm going to be this independent right-wing populist force independent of the administration pressuring

00:13:33.880 them from the right and then the very next day being like well actually trump is so mean and as a

00:13:39.900 christian i feel bad for criticizing the liberals and we need to be together and then of course she just

00:13:45.140 picks up her toys and leaves and you get the terrible sensation that a lot of these people who are in

00:13:50.540 congress and maybe van geno too like they would actually rather be hosting shows on rumble than

00:13:56.060 have the responsibility of wielding political power because it's easy because it's very easy to just be

00:14:00.320 like oh look at the system there's nothing we can do send me money send me this sort of stuff and

00:14:04.980 then it's like okay well here's a certain measure of political power and you can actually do things and

00:14:09.560 they just go well i just don't want to do it yeah and there's a fundamental lack of seriousness

00:14:13.900 on the right broadly speaking compared to the left when the left is in any kind of position it

00:14:19.020 doesn't matter if it's a board of education seat they use everything they have they go beyond

00:14:23.680 what they're entitled to use in terms of power oh definitely but the right for the right i mean i'm

00:14:27.980 always reminded of what joe sober said about the conservative movement which he said for so many

00:14:32.940 people in it it was it's a game it's a way of making a living and to them it's it's nothing i mean

00:14:38.600 the one thing people can say about people like us is that it's not a way of making a living because if 0.99

00:14:44.580 you think that like white identity politics is a way to make money you're an idiot there are a lot 0.98

00:14:48.640 of easier ways to make money yeah and then you're like kicked off of banks and payment processors 1.00

00:14:52.500 and like you can't even accept the money you know barely you're a grifter like i can't get a bank

00:14:58.220 account like what do you want what are you talking about i mean great and this is no we have some

00:15:01.920 amazing supporters and stuff that has like just been there for us over the i mean we would be

00:15:06.060 just gone obviously like if we didn't have the support that we did or whatever but yes

00:15:09.560 by any means this is some money we get some drift or some shit you know if you've got if you've got 0.77

00:15:14.800 so many people at this point who they they seem to actually avoid the idea of state power like they 0.56

00:15:20.640 want to be entertainers and i think this speaks more broadly to to something that i think we're

00:15:25.040 going to get into when we talk about the immigration situation and what the president needs to do and

00:15:28.280 whatever else we always forget this but it's such an obvious thing the gop controls the house and the

00:15:33.880 senate what have they done i mean aside from the big view the one thing that they've done

00:15:39.560 the one thing was the big beautiful bill and the one big thing that that did was fund ice and we're

00:15:45.060 seeing the consequences of that and that's not nothing but all that did was give the administration

00:15:50.180 tools to do certain things but in terms of other legislation they could be passing they gutted the

00:15:56.560 remittance tax that was in the big beautiful bill you're not seeing any sanctions on employer not

00:16:00.620 seeing nationwide you verify you're not seeing nationwide uh voter id or anything like that like all of

00:16:06.520 these even something like making english the official language of the united states like there

00:16:11.880 was a trump executive order on that but that doesn't mean anything the next president could

00:16:15.280 just get rid of it yeah why wouldn't republicans in congress and even advance legislation on something

00:16:20.200 like that jd vance tried it when he was in the senate like what do these people do well well as you

00:16:26.160 said there was a couple of truth posts here right uh regarding the situation in minnesota all of it

00:16:31.240 these people should be sent back to somalia or any other country from where they came from dude aren't you the 0.83

00:16:35.780 president don't you have supposed exact i i look i know there's injunctions and all this shit like 0.98

00:16:40.520 things are standing in his way but it's like this what can you can is there nothing you can do the

00:16:46.320 insurrection act was obviously kind of on the discussed here recently as well but you let me know

00:16:51.960 some of the recent developments regarding that was basically was it holman who talked him down from

00:16:56.660 that was that what you heard i think yeah they had a meeting today where they discussed the

00:17:00.540 insurrection act and the president came out not long ago just before we went on the air and basically

00:17:04.980 said we're going to use it if we have to it's a very powerful tool i don't think we need it right

00:17:08.940 yet but he's still you know keeping that in the back pocket the broader issue of denaturalizing

00:17:13.340 these people i mean as many people pointed out the issue with these somalis is that there are a lot of

00:17:16.840 them are technically legal and so and as we all talk about this where it's like look even if you get

00:17:22.260 rid of the illegals you still have to deal with these legals now obviously there are a lot of 0.89

00:17:26.020 illegals that need to go first and there's probably way more than the 15 20 million that they usually cite

00:17:30.800 but if you're talking about how do we get rid of legals now we're talking a whole new battle and i

00:17:37.680 think the test case really should be ill and omar this is somebody who the president has attacked

00:17:43.400 personally because it's not a question of you're just denaturalizing her because you don't like her

00:17:48.680 like i'd be okay with that but i mean they're not going to let him get away with that right but if

00:17:52.220 you did something where it's like she lied to get into the country she married her brother she committed

00:17:57.460 some kind of fraud she lied with her oath or something like that this is something you can

00:18:01.860 work with and for whatever reason i mean they've talked about it but we just haven't seen anything

00:18:07.120 from it and i don't even know if like the president can do that or if that's like from the doj or

00:18:11.180 whatever else again i'm not sure to find find a way legally but in what's interesting about the

00:18:15.840 omar case is even the zionist agree that she should go right so that you know there's agreement there

00:18:20.580 right there's there's a question i mean you get a certain i mean i didn't want to get into it but

00:18:26.540 here we go i mean who is the one guy who's been talking the most about get just getting rid of

00:18:32.140 these people regardless it's randy randy fine exactly who is like simultaneously the worst and

00:18:38.280 the best because and like we all know what's really going on yeah and the fat well and that's a bold

00:18:43.160 thing he may actually have some competition on that but we all know what's really driving this kind

00:18:51.300 of stuff but here he is saying these sorts of things and it does raise a certain question where

00:18:55.820 if these people are actually sovereign as some have said like that they're actually running the

00:19:02.600 show that he should be the most powerful congressman because he's like the most

00:19:05.920 pro-zionist i would say why aren't these things happening why is rashida to leave just today i mean

00:19:11.400 this is somebody who proudly calls herself a palestinian for example today complaining about

00:19:17.040 the we'll have our home again propaganda that you're getting from dhs or ice or whatever it was

00:19:21.980 where they used you know and people will say like well this is just kind of slop this is red meat for

00:19:27.000 the base but the democrats are still very upset about it oh no definitely definitely you there there

00:19:32.900 does come a point where the frustrating thing of course for white people is the idea that we have

00:19:38.680 we're never allowed to just fight for our own interests like we have to we have to use like one

00:19:43.000 group or the other as a shield to be allowed to go after one group or the other or whatever it is

00:19:47.560 but i think a lot of us would say that yeah we want ilan omar god and we want rashida to leave gone

00:19:54.080 we want these somalis gone as a start and yet even with what i think many of us would agree is the most 1.00

00:19:59.920 powerful political lobby on our side on this one thing nothing is happening and so therefore where do

00:20:06.780 you go from there now i think as far as the president goes he has stripped the somalis of temporary

00:20:12.560 protected status that doesn't matter that much because again i'm a lot from illegal but he but

00:20:16.980 he did do it right and he has spoken about i mean from an overton window point of view if you had said

00:20:24.000 i mean we've both been in this for a long time if you had said when we started listen someday the

00:20:29.240 president of the united states is going to say you know what this entire non-white ethnic group that's 0.97

00:20:34.280 in our country they need to go they're all fraudsters and pirates they all need to go we would have been 0.98

00:20:38.740 like well geez we must have won right so it is it is something i mean how we how we get to victory

00:20:45.600 how do we turn this into policy that's a separate question but it is something we shouldn't overlook

00:20:50.080 that no no for sure uh but i always felt they they went there dragging uh kicking and screaming kind of

00:20:55.360 along the way of sorts i i still feel part of me still feels it's like uh it's it's the crumbs we're 0.97

00:21:01.180 given like fine i will give you some white identity if you go along with all this other shit that 0.88

00:21:05.540 we're trying to do essentially too but again i mean yeah that's a big question i mean well i mean 0.85

00:21:10.580 this is the the fundamental debate right i mean everybody who's watching this it's certainly a

00:21:15.020 question that you and i have both considered for a very long time which is co-option is a real danger

00:21:19.780 but on the other hand we're also in this thing by which i mean the united states of america and it's

00:21:26.000 very easy to be like well the usa or the regime or the republican party whatever is anti-white and so

00:21:32.280 therefore we need to have like an independent force we need to have an independent path we need

00:21:36.520 to be an independent political force but what does that even look like i mean that's a that's a very

00:21:41.140 difficult question because to some extent we have to work through the state that rules us right now

00:21:47.200 and then you get into all these other questions about foreign policy about like is it a triumph for

00:21:51.920 white people based on what happened in venezuela is it a triumph for white people if we get like 0.99

00:21:57.100 greenland or something like that there are arguments maybe that it is there are arguments maybe that

00:22:01.400 it's not but fundamentally we're still kind of just cutting through the wilderness here because

00:22:07.400 the fundamental thing is white people are not an independent political force in this country 0.68

00:22:12.060 and so until that becomes a reality we're sort of in this situation where we can we can talk about all

00:22:17.740 the issues we want but everything comes down to well we just got to take what we can get and that's a

00:22:21.500 very frustrating position to be in yeah no definitely all right so here's a couple of clips here

00:22:25.520 obviously kind of lead this off in terms of yeah just some of the spur accounts uh that we've seen

00:22:29.680 regarding ice and everything else again this is on the ground level this is we'll get to the

00:22:33.340 politicians and the media pundits in a little bit what they're talking about but here's a sample

00:22:36.580 for you guys this can't be happening hey kill these ice stations bro do the thing that you're 0.74

00:22:44.760 supposed to do utilize the second amendment they are going to murder us all hello is that bulletproof 1.00

00:22:54.180 that's even bulletproof anymore fuck us this can't be a fucking pathetic worm you know these pussy ass 1.00

00:23:04.380 ice motherfuckers they're gonna start catching a hell of a lot more than snowballs like if you wear 1.00

00:23:09.520 an ice badge from now on i would expect people to start magnum you i encourage everyone who sees this 0.99

00:23:15.060 video to bear arms and practice your second amendment right but monitor their business oh oh oh oh oh that's

00:23:20.980 how we can start doing them we're not gonna go get justice we're gonna go get revenge we're gonna 0.99

00:23:26.960 round up a whole lot of motherfuckers hey if you're a nice agent this might be a good time to kiss your 1.00

00:23:34.000 spouse and kids goodbye because you know what you might not be coming home tomorrow 1.00

00:23:38.380 gang they don't found you and your whole family oh if you slime the fuck out of an ice agent just say 0.98

00:23:48.560 you're with me and i'll corroborate the story like hello knock knock knock are you home wake up rage 0.98

00:23:57.100 rage

00:23:59.580 the y-ans know we about to go into martial law we need these y-ans to step up these young boys that's 0.96

00:24:09.240 running around these ski masks these super united state gangsters i'm trying to figure out why we're 1.00

00:24:13.580 not shooting them are we fucking great yet are we a great country is this one it's fucking great 0.99

00:24:20.500 remember people yes actually man tries to kidnap anyway this goes on and on we have to watch the 0.99

00:24:25.720 rest of this but you get the point it's like this isn't you're not gonna this you're not gonna get

00:24:30.960 out of this for like generations no no and this is this goes back to i mean again it goes to the idea

00:24:38.440 of co-option and whether we can trust our elites or whatever i mean you and i would both agree that

00:24:43.000 charlie kirk was not necessarily on our side fully although certainly he'd improved quite a bit in the

00:24:48.320 years before his death but when he was assassinated and assassinated is not too strong a word and you

00:24:54.200 saw just normal people teachers government employees celebrating his nurses celebrating his death

00:25:01.160 saying we're going to do more of this and then you see these sorts of clips here i mean i think one of

00:25:06.300 the reasons that you have so many conspiracies about the death of charlie kirk is because the

00:25:11.100 reality is in many ways much more horrifying which is that maybe what one out of three people in this

00:25:16.280 country would love to see people like you and i dead and would be willing to do it themselves if they 1.00

00:25:20.860 could get away with it how do you deal with that yeah and this is one of the skill to pull it off they

00:25:25.120 would yeah right and the courage and obviously to some extent this is obviously artificial i mean

00:25:29.760 you can imagine these guys like taking the phone and setting it up in their car and getting the

00:25:35.140 lighting just right before they have their emotional breakdown so like so obviously to some extent it's

00:25:40.620 like okay like it's a little fake but yeah the thing is i think the left is more neurotic more

00:25:47.600 emotional more driven by spite and resentment and that is actually an advantage in politics they are willing

00:25:54.420 to go farther how many people on the right are getting cold feet about the ice deportations that

00:25:59.500 we've seen thus far whereas you've got whole factions to the left ready to go to war and in

00:26:05.040 congress you've got a lot of the democrats saying we need to abolish ice entirely absolutely we'll get

00:26:10.120 we'll get to some of those as well i mean it's amazing to see that it's like they are right i mean

00:26:14.460 they're honest in that sense like these people will hey even if you know they individually might not

00:26:20.460 hold their political power but the side that they're part of or the side that they're a symptom of

00:26:26.820 will and at that point you can argue they already do to certain i mean they got most of the other

00:26:31.200 institutions right education media entertainment these types of things but still one day they will

00:26:35.520 and yeah i think they're right they're they're monitoring they're watching i mean look at some of

00:26:39.520 the clips that came out with um the breaking into lock boxes and stuff in the federal vehicles and 0.87

00:26:44.340 things they're finding documents on you know ice agents and all this shit like they're taking you 0.87

00:26:49.320 know notes of all this but uh one kind of funny thing was uh renee good uh her family hires george

00:26:54.680 floyd's law firm to investigate minneapolis ice shooting so yes we do have some overlap so it's

00:27:00.800 george foyd was out the the meme was george foyd yes it turns out it was true actually um this was

00:27:08.200 kind of fun too actually to see and this is what i was talking about like they don't seem to understand 0.84

00:27:12.760 that like you can't just you can't just do shit like this let's check it out 0.82

00:27:15.720 now 0.99

00:27:15.960 hey back the fuck up 0.99

00:27:39.040 you're not following the law 1.00

00:27:45.160 you're not following the law

00:28:00.160 you're not following the law

00:28:13.400 you're notboo 1.00

00:28:19.320 Thank you.

00:28:20.720 Thank you.

00:28:23.700 Please help me.

00:28:25.760 Get up my police before I'm disabled.

00:28:28.380 I'm trying to go to the locker up there.

00:28:29.700 That's why I can't move.

00:28:30.820 Hello?

00:28:36.540 I'm going to stick this with some person.

00:28:40.780 Does this make you feel strong?

00:28:44.300 Yeah, man.

00:28:46.320 What did you say?

00:28:47.660 and here's the best part coming up here when she's hauled away oh yeah i know that i know

00:28:56.240 the picture here we're gonna have a brain injury like well clearly because you can't follow like

00:29:01.680 simple directions at least she admitted at least she admits it you know maybe you shouldn't be

00:29:05.560 driving a car what do you think of that yeah like she was just going to the doctor it's fine don't

00:29:09.400 worry about it she had a doctor's appointment oh yeah i mean i've tried that excuse when i got 1.00

00:29:15.220 pulled over yeah exactly sorry officer i can't talk now i'm going to the doctor all right i tried to

00:29:21.400 run you over i have a brain injury oh okay where's the where's the clip oh is this not the angle

00:29:28.300 no well we've seen the pictures yeah in this particular oh it wasn't okay yeah i have a

00:29:32.640 brain damage okay yeah and it's just this they're posing for the cameras because they ultimately

00:29:39.460 trust their entire lives they've never faced any real opposition like they've got a million lawyers

00:29:44.820 they've got a million reporters they've got a million people to send the money they trust that

00:29:48.580 this force is ultimately going to be on their side that a greater authority is going to swoop in and

00:29:53.660 save them from the consequences of their own actions then this is why this whole talk of like

00:29:57.520 oh it's a rebellion it's an insurrection yes and no because ultimately they are sort of play acting i

00:30:03.460 thought ronald nicole good's uh wife although it wasn't actually even her wife in a legal sense

00:30:08.900 supposedly what she said after the shooting was really significant where she said why do you have real

00:30:14.180 bullets like this is because it's federal law enforcement like this isn't a game no but that's

00:30:20.760 what they think they think it is a game and they think there are no stakes and that you can just go

00:30:25.360 up to people who are exercising a very dangerous operation to get criminals out of the country

00:30:31.420 because they're not just raiding like random people i mean there are specific yeah people with

00:30:35.800 very serious records that they're going after yeah and that you can go up and interfere with them

00:30:40.140 and that nothing will happen to you well it doesn't work that way these are they brought 0.95

00:30:43.720 entitled fucking pricks you know i mean like they're just their whole lives their whole life 0.98

00:30:48.840 whatever i want i get it you know kind of thing that type of mentality and now they're actually 0.99

00:30:52.600 coming up against something and then it's and that's a fascist dictatorship and nazism now like

00:30:57.080 what do you what did you feel like how do you how do you how do you even think that a society

00:31:01.740 actually works right and this this is a key thing i mean some people have pointed this out that

00:31:07.660 if you actually believed i'm not saying they don't believe these people are fascists i think

00:31:12.460 they do but they have a very mistaken apprehension i think about what fascism would actually look like

00:31:19.240 because if you actually believed that the ice was a fascist death squad you wouldn't be hitting their

00:31:25.960 cars you wouldn't be assaulting officers you wouldn't be screaming insults at them you wouldn't be

00:31:30.840 driving your own car ramming them you wouldn't be following them around town yeah you wouldn't be

00:31:35.500 screaming insults like we are going to kill you yeah because traditionally once you have chosen 0.98

00:31:40.360 those sorts of tactics the fascist death squad tends to win once that becomes the battleground 0.98

00:31:45.680 so to some extent they don't really believe what they're saying i think they believe it in a moral

00:31:50.520 sense but they fundamentally think that somebody bigger and stronger is going to come and save them

00:31:56.160 from the consequences and the logical conclusion of their own rhetoric and maybe they're beginning to

00:32:01.200 learn nobody's coming well it's their action if they believe that that that's what they're doing

00:32:05.480 it's their actions that it's making them into nuts like do you see i'm saying like it's because you're

00:32:11.760 impeding that they're you're making them into what you want them to be which of course which shows the

00:32:16.640 purpose right because as we get into the politicians you do have that antagonizing aspect here of like

00:32:21.200 you know elected officials and influential people like you need to put your body on the light you need to

00:32:26.600 get out there and get in their face like talk about like yeah i mean they talk about stochastic

00:32:30.820 terrorism on the part of the right like we say something wrong we don't like brown people or

00:32:34.260 something and i was like that's oh that's gonna lead to cattle cars everybody in this case nah totally

00:32:38.760 fine right yeah i mean when you are basically daring people to get in the face of federal law

00:32:43.860 enforcement to some extent you bear the consequences of what happens and there is a broader question here

00:32:49.480 too i mean if you look at the precursor to the spanish civil war what you would call like the actual

00:32:55.000 fascists the people who became like the falange on the nationalist side were a very minuscule force

00:33:00.440 like it wasn't a real thing but the communists and the people who ultimately became the republican 1.00

00:33:05.200 side the spanish left were always going nuts about fascism we have to kill fascists there are fascists 0.93

00:33:09.900 everywhere and they cried wolf so many times that they essentially created the enemy that they wanted 0.90

00:33:14.980 yeah and then they of course lost and you kind of wonder if this is what's happening here where

00:33:20.220 i'm sure the guys in ice don't want to be dealing with this they want to just like raid these criminals

00:33:25.580 say oh we captured 2 000 people and we're going to put up our statistics on social media and then leave

00:33:31.320 and pat ourselves on the back but now you're dealing with all of these people and the illegal aliens have 0.99

00:33:36.920 almost become beside the point instead you have all these liberals attacking officers and trying to do

00:33:42.420 all the stuff and you can't just back away from that the administration certainly isn't so now you have to deal

00:33:47.660 with it so now that's become the kind of battleground yeah and so you essentially have a right-wing

00:33:53.660 political force fighting a left-wing paramilitary force and that's where we're at it's an insurgency

00:34:01.340 or what do you what do they call it like it's an internal uh yeah an insurrection insurrection yeah

00:34:06.120 which of course there's a there's a handy little law with a name and everything that the president could

00:34:11.820 use if he wants to and the amount of power he has in that situation is remarkable i mean

00:34:17.360 the president is not doing it yet but he has that and if the president decides i am going to do the

00:34:23.560 insurrection act and keep in mind when the supreme court ruled against his ability to send the military

00:34:28.860 into certain cities he's still been doing it in memphis but he has the support of the red state

00:34:32.860 governor there of course but in blue cities or blue states i should say like chicago some illinois

00:34:37.860 and chicago and stuff like that he can't really do it but if he does the insurrection act he can pretty

00:34:42.700 much do whatever he wants in terms of federal control of the military and at that point there's

00:34:48.460 really nothing anybody can do to stop him now he hasn't done it yet but you get the sense that they're

00:34:54.720 just waiting for the excuse yeah and i think i think it's not a coincidence that tim walls last week he

00:35:01.120 was saying we are at war with the federal government like that is what he said and now this week he's

00:35:06.520 saying well we need to lower the temperature yeah we need to come together don't give them an excuse i

00:35:13.320 think he's beginning to understand that he's picked a battle that he can't win yeah here he is let's

00:35:17.260 listen to a minute of this here i had it in the flow here oh let me turn this thing in minnesota

00:35:21.940 right now defies belief news reports simply don't do justice to the level of chaos and disruption and

00:35:29.560 trauma the federal government is raining down upon our communities two to three thousand armed agents of

00:35:35.700 the federal government have been deployed to minnesota armed masked under trained ice agents

00:35:42.080 are going door to door ordering people to point out where their neighbors of color live

00:35:47.440 they're pulling over people indiscriminately including u.s citizens and demanding to see their

00:35:54.420 papers and at grocery stores at bus stops they're breaking windows dragging pregnant women down the 1.00

00:36:02.220 street just plain grabbing minnesotans and shoving them into unmarked bands kidnapping innocent people

00:36:08.180 with no warning and no due process let's be very very clear this long ago stopped being a matter of

00:36:14.780 immigration enforcement instead it's a campaign of organized brutality against the people of minnesota

00:36:20.560 by our own federal government last week all right anyway i think that's enough that's a minute of

00:36:25.820 of this yapper going on this is insane right and as you said then it was here's the let's turn down

00:36:31.720 the temperature clip we can play well i said this yesterday we've never been at war with our federal

00:36:35.400 government um uh i think in this case that the national guard is is their main mission they have

00:36:42.740 a dual mission there's there's well i said this yes anyway the point is yeah well that's the one where

00:36:48.060 he was like hinting that like the national guard is going to like interpose itself between the state and

00:36:52.920 the federal government and it's like what do you really want to start this i mean do you want to

00:36:57.680 see how this movie ends because

00:36:58.920 there's a broader problem here if you are waltz if you're a fray in minneapolis where

00:37:08.360 at one level they they need to put on a show for their constituency because their constituency wants

00:37:15.060 them to basically be shooting at these people yeah and you saw this i mean this is the clip i was

00:37:19.560 going to bring up i mean this is where fray is basically hinting that he wants the cops

00:37:23.760 to like fight federal law enforcement yeah and you can see the cop look at him like exactly let's

00:37:29.300 let's play real quick you got that and we're in a position right now where we have residents

00:37:34.960 that are asking the very limited number of police officers that we have

00:37:40.280 to fight ice agents on the street to stand by their neighbors

00:37:45.760 right now like we're hello darkness my old friend

00:37:54.780 and it's like what city where am i has done more to basically turn on its own law enforcement because

00:38:03.880 at the end of the day and it gets down to the basic questions of political order i mean because

00:38:07.880 you've got hysterical women screaming on tiktok and you've got all these people going nuts but look

00:38:11.380 at the end of the day political authority ultimately rests on force the ultimate arrest on armed men

00:38:17.560 with guns who say this is the law and we are going to enforce it and for the city that is the police

00:38:23.260 department and what is minneapolis another blue city has done over the last few years basically told

00:38:27.020 police departments you're on your own that if you arrest a black criminal and it goes south and it's 0.58

00:38:32.100 on video we are going to throw you under the bus and now you're turning to the same guy and saying

00:38:36.180 put yourself on the line to defend us from the federal government no one's going to do that

00:38:40.720 they better not i mean again this is a very interesting situation for uh for them um here's

00:38:47.640 another during the same press conference listen to what uh fray here said uh regarding this here

00:38:53.620 imagine if that city or that town was suddenly invaded by thousands of federal agents that do not share

00:39:03.320 the values that you hold dear imagine if there were illegal migrants 1.00

00:39:09.060 and they don't share your values or your race who can imagine like all these like haitians showing 0.99

00:39:16.460 up oh but federal federal agents don't share the values this this is the whole point the federal

00:39:21.720 agents don't have values like this is something that one of the ice higher officers made the point

00:39:28.160 on social media that they're enforcing laws that were passed by congress right you don't like these

00:39:34.020 laws congress is supposed to repeal them and pass different laws they don't have a choice in what

00:39:40.460 laws they get to enforce and so the idea that like ice itself is a political force is not really how our

00:39:48.080 system is supposed to work but they are turning it into that and this is why in many ways it's historic

00:39:54.780 in a way because this is the first branch of the government certainly in my lifetime where you can

00:39:59.920 point to as being almost inherently on the right because its very mission is we are distinguishing

00:40:05.200 between americans and non-americans we are saying that not everybody has an inherent right to come into

00:40:10.680 this country and everybody who signs up for it is part of that mission and of course anybody who's

00:40:15.680 getting recruited under the trump administration you can probably tell has a certain ideological mindset

00:40:20.120 going in and that's very interesting yeah it changes the calculus of power as far as the state goes in

00:40:26.480 a way that we haven't seen in our entire lives yeah i mean what's the argument oh the the president

00:40:31.780 is politicizing i don't know what his political mission or something you know i mean like what what's

00:40:36.800 wait a minute yeah that's that's that's the nature of the game but let's not let's not beat around

00:40:41.380 the bush here right that this what they're seeing here is the the what they're and the left are

00:40:46.500 obviously more honest than the right is right it's like when nick shirley goes out and it's like no

00:40:51.260 this is not nothing to do with race he mentioned to one of the somali guys approaching him it's just

00:40:55.540 about fraud okay well that's a retarded argument everyone you're finding doing the fraud belongs to 0.97

00:41:00.280 a certain race like what do you what do you do now everyone is attack everyone that pushed him out of 0.62

00:41:04.360 every single establishment he walked into they rallied behind their own on a racial basis there were

00:41:08.960 people stopping their Somalis stopping their cars in the middle of the road just to rush out to come to 0.65

00:41:15.040 the rescue of their Somali brother or african brother right they didn't know what's going on

00:41:19.100 but is there an argument that doesn't matter it's his immutable characteristic here's a white guy in

00:41:23.740 the wrong neighborhood in their neighborhood right this is like no go zone and he's in a fight with us

00:41:28.640 we're gonna back up our own we're gonna stand up for our own but the ice deportations ultimately

00:41:34.320 represents and i think they're they're right on this the left is right the white man asserting himself

00:41:39.720 that's what it is right because this is like taking care of illegals that's brown people 1.00

00:41:44.440 ice that's the deportation nazi force they want to preserve america white so the framing although that

00:41:50.200 is not the entirely of course the mission but that's the framing of the thing and of course that's that is

00:41:54.780 more or less true right no matter how you kind of shake it out it's not uh again as maybe goes to the

00:42:01.540 depth of one but yeah there's a deeper meaning there exactly so this is very interesting and you see the

00:42:07.520 same level of antagonism obviously in the media this is not a big surprise oh this was this check

00:42:11.840 this one out this is kind of funny from 2022 2022 yeah pre-osempic era it looks like uh we have more

00:42:18.640 refugees per capita than any other states and listen to what he says uh after that we're a state of 0.93

00:42:23.580 immigrants that values that we have more refugees per capita than any other state that's not just morally 0.96

00:42:29.820 a good thing it's our economic and cultural future this beautiful diversity we see out in

00:42:35.820 worthington when i'm there you see 50 languages spoken in the school and you see every storefront

00:42:41.500 filled with different types of foods different types of businesses that are happening minnesota

00:42:46.940 needs to continue to do that the office of governor can set the tone on that we're going to continue to 0.88

00:42:52.480 oh my gosh holy shit yeah now this is it's a moral good that this is what it's for diversity's sake 0.89

00:42:58.680 that we just must do this because diversity in and of itself is a sacred value right 0.98

00:43:02.800 right it's it's this is fundamentally a religious war i mean this is this is a war of belief and at

00:43:08.880 this point the idea that diversity is a strength has been totally disconnected from any economic

00:43:13.140 argument i mean certainly when you see this in europe where they say oh immigration is necessary for

00:43:17.720 these countries to grow gdp even that's not true you know look at the economic growth of britain

00:43:22.220 or germany or italy or france or all these countries i mean america during the first year

00:43:26.920 in our lifetimes where you have a net negative migration the gdp was up more than four percent

00:43:33.420 in the last quarter where just about everybody else's whereas like 0.1 or 0.3 so already that

00:43:38.760 argument's gone forever so what do they fall back on the idea that it has some sort of inherent moral

00:43:43.880 importance and food and that's what we're left with basically a faith-based claim and i can't stop

00:43:50.740 shoving this slop into my mouth which of course you know brings us to jacob fray trying to eat that

00:43:55.220 somali dish and having a hard time with it did he even though even the food did he do with his

00:43:59.580 hands or no yeah he tried to he tried i don't know if it was with his hands but there was this kind of

00:44:04.320 like bean dish which apparently i mean i don't know much about somali food but i have been told

00:44:09.640 that this particular dish is something of an acquired taste and yet the somalis decided that this would be

00:44:15.880 the first thing they give this guy to have him eat on camera to show how great it was and you can see

00:44:20.360 that he's like barely able to keep the nausea down as he's choking this down even the food argument

00:44:25.100 isn't there couldn't uh couldn't happen to a nicer guy am i right i know um yeah so here's a

00:44:30.020 here's charles blow right he was i guess formerly at least with the new york times he has a sub stack

00:44:34.840 now they're asking i do outrageous they are uh recruiting them using nazi white supremacist

00:44:43.640 uh propaganda uh hinting to that and then people see that people who don't recognize it as nazi or

00:44:52.700 or or or white supremacist maybe they just join anyway but the ones who do recognize it see that

00:44:58.080 as a hint the same kind of hint as as you know stand back and stand by and then you put those

00:45:04.320 people in the field not this is not people coming to washington to protest these are people being

00:45:10.080 placed in my neighborhood doing horrible things to my neighbors and when people respond to that they

00:45:16.580 say now the problem we created we will solve with more force this is a horrible political

00:45:22.240 play first of all how dare you sit here and accuse ice agents of being nazi gestapo and white supremacist

00:45:30.500 when they are enforcing is that what i said you just insinuated that they're apparently recruiting

00:45:34.820 others you said they're recruiting others and then it's a dog whistle for others to then apply to that

00:45:39.480 second of all he well he's let me tell you what you're not believing he's referring to posts that

00:45:45.460 have been put out on social media by dhs i've seen all the and on the department of labor and on other

00:45:51.620 accounts that have been traced back to uh white supremacist chat chat rooms uh iconography

00:46:00.340 so that's like we're going to pill or drink water so if you drink water

00:46:03.860 survival said five dollars broken arrow oklahoma just shot down a permit for a mosque to be built

00:46:10.880 the organization is now preparing to sue the town every town needs to start fighting this invasion

00:46:16.480 yeah good uh good tip yeah exactly thank you i see the one with george washington there's plenty of

00:46:22.100 stuff did you did you see the one with george which specific one the one where they were using

00:46:25.700 nazi hinting at nazi phrasing over a picture of george washington did you see it did you see it

00:46:32.580 well you didn't see it you didn't see you said you see it but you didn't see it what is the phrase

00:46:35.820 what is the phrase and you didn't see it and the reason and the reason i can continue my answer

00:46:40.560 you can't say the phrase i don't want to i don't want to guys i don't know what you're talking

00:46:44.460 everybody stop talking one we just can we just send these people throw them out the window

00:46:55.100 the phrase is one homeland one people one heritage remember who we are as american over a picture of

00:47:01.820 george washington and that is a hint at what a lot of people are suggesting is a hint at a nazi german

00:47:07.900 party uh thing that said one pair one people one realm one leader do you remember do you remember

00:47:14.320 what the largest nazi rally ever held in america where it was held have you ever seen a dollar bill

00:47:19.680 this one nation under god have you ever read john jay who said we were one people with one language

00:47:25.560 in 1934 and you know what picture was on that stage george washington and you know what the person said

00:47:32.320 when they got on the stage to introduce that nazi rally was that if george washington was alive today

00:47:37.360 he and adolf hitler would be and then and then checkmate there we go that's all right well in

00:47:45.500 that case we can't use george washington anymore because i mean it's we can't coexist with these

00:47:51.340 people i mean this is a broader thing i think this is and a lot of times i mean as somebody who wrote

00:47:55.540 for for vdar back when when that site was still active and was doing anti-immigration stuff spoke at

00:48:00.420 the arizona rally when they did their state laws on this sort of stuff i mean doing anti-immigration

00:48:05.020 stuff for a very long time and one of the things you would always see is we would say well

00:48:08.860 we need to get african americans on board with this effort because obviously they're the ones 1.00

00:48:13.500 who are competing with these illegals for jobs and they pay the most and all the sorts of stuff 1.00

00:48:16.740 but when it comes to the political representation of black america they are totally on the side of

00:48:23.120 the invasion yes they are totally on the side of being replaced by foreigners and it is because 1.00

00:48:27.860 they see them as demographic reinforcement supremacists like this are so smug because they know they have

00:48:32.680 the backing of the establishment yeah sorry i should let you know that that intervenes sometime

00:48:36.380 go ahead finish your point yeah go ahead yep well i mean i basically finished it but i agree

00:48:39.980 they were on they they know they have the backing of the establishment there but because again it's

00:48:45.520 and again as the title of your show identity politics imply it's all identity it's all racial at the end

00:48:52.740 of the day which this is a racial bet all these things about like trying to put it into these

00:48:57.780 different categories or it is this because of that or whatever it it's it's an inevitable trajectory

00:49:04.380 towards like okay fine okay fine it is about race now let's let's work with it from that point of view

00:49:10.300 at least kind of thing but it's still i mean as you pointed out many times that's where you actually

00:49:13.700 get more pushback from conservatives and right-wingers and you know mega people like no no no it's not

00:49:18.840 totally not about that all and it's like let's just get this over with we're dragging them kicking

00:49:23.580 and screaming to our position all but politics or identity politics man you're saying yeah and

00:49:27.900 they are figuring this out i mean i think that this sort of us and them debate is really clarifying for

00:49:34.760 a lot of people because you you see a lot of conservatives trying to cozy up to the other side

00:49:40.360 trying to say well isn't there any common ground here and the left is saying no you deserve to be 0.99

00:49:44.660 killed you deserve to be hunted down you deserve to be doxxed we're not going to have any compromise 0.96

00:49:48.700 we're going to have nuremberg trials for everyone they're not giving conservatives a way out and i think 0.99

00:49:52.940 these people are going to be drag kicking and screaming to our position whether they like it or 0.98

00:49:56.140 not yeah um yeah i mean it's it's incredible the the amount of people that are encouraging this right

00:50:03.980 um in in minnesota and uh that are can openly just like go against federal law enforcement operations

00:50:13.060 and stuff and like how how do you deal with that like how do you actually like you can't unravel that

00:50:18.860 it's a gordian knot with like too many tentacles right they've never they've never faced consequences

00:50:24.740 in their entire lives i mean look we all remember in 2020 how many of these protests when we're

00:50:30.120 destroying public property doing things you and i could never get away with yeah right yeah as a matter

00:50:34.580 of fact i think the undercurrent of j6 was a lot of conservatives were looking at it and saying oh

00:50:40.760 apparently you can do this kind of stuff and not get punished it's like no no no no no no it doesn't

00:50:46.200 work that way you get punished they don't yeah but remember during 2020 the fbi taking a knee

00:50:52.340 police departments taking a knee all the corporations showing solidarity with it but now

00:50:57.780 and let's also keep in mind when there was an attack on the white house and president trump was

00:51:02.700 hustled into that emergency bunker there was a remarkable confrontation between stephen miller

00:51:07.680 and the chairman of the joint east general miley where the military basically refused to obey orders

00:51:13.400 from the president because the president and miller and others were saying we need to get troops in

00:51:17.360 there and we need to stop this and the military basically said no the way they got around that

00:51:22.340 ultimately is they called in a different force to restore order same force by the way is on the

00:51:26.760 ground in minneapolis right now i think it's like the bureau of prisons like tactical team or something

00:51:30.720 like that really but yeah but this is there's been a lot of books about it talking about this

00:51:36.000 confrontation and everything else i mean this was in many ways a much more serious attack

00:51:39.860 than anything that happened on january 6th but of course it was something the media supported so it

00:51:44.300 was kind of cheered on but you remember it where they had trump go to the bunker and they're trying

00:51:47.920 to tear down the andrew jackson situation and such now we're in this situation where these people

00:51:52.780 think these protesters think that the same rules apply that they automatically are going to get a slap

00:51:58.180 on the wrist for judges that they are automatically going to get bailed out by their legal observers and by

00:52:03.320 their ngos that they're automatically going to get the federal government and federal law enforcement to back

00:52:08.080 down but while those first two things may still happen unfortunately the trump administration is

00:52:14.300 not backing down this is probably the first time again in my entire life where you've seen a forthright

00:52:19.940 exercise of force and then when everybody complains about it on a moral basis the center right guy in

00:52:27.360 charge let's say says no we are not giving into moral blackwell we're just going to keep doing this

00:52:33.100 you're just going to have to deal with it and they've never faced this in their entire lives i mean

00:52:37.900 keep in mind when president trump was inaugurated the first time i mean i was there i was in dc for

00:52:42.940 the first inauguration there were huge protests there was all sorts of violence we all remember

00:52:46.920 richard spencer getting punched in the face nobody went to jail nobody faced any consequences everybody

00:52:53.360 who got arrested or convicted or whatever was ultimately let off nothing happened so these people

00:52:59.100 have been getting away with this for like 10 years now and now suddenly they're learning hey maybe

00:53:04.080 we're not going to get away with it this time i mean this is something we're just going to have to go

00:53:08.320 through if we're serious about this yeah definitely but it's also like these are just one two three

00:53:15.220 here and there five here maybe six here i don't know look in the chaos of the moment i understand that

00:53:21.840 but look what happened after j6 too right man that was how many isn't it still kind of almost ongoing

00:53:27.940 like there's orgs and organizations trying to identify people and all that stuff right so you

00:53:33.040 hope that they're like they monitor they build some database and they they will return to some of these

00:53:38.100 people right but some of the worst perpetrators right now they are catching like this guy who stole

00:53:42.280 the was it a rifle from one of the weapons lock boxes there basically uh right name the face tattoo bro

00:53:49.140 here yeah right and the issue here of course is that if you put these guys in front of a local jury i mean

00:53:55.680 god knows what's going to happen i mean it's kind of a minor case but there was a when there was ice

00:54:00.820 deployed i think in dc and somebody in dc like threw a sandwich or something and so they arrested him and

00:54:05.640 charged him with assaulting an officer and of course like the jury let him go and you've been seeing this

00:54:09.740 with a lot of other cases where you have pretty straightforward crimes like they obviously did it

00:54:13.500 but then you have basically jury nullification yeah now are you going to have jury nullification in more

00:54:18.660 serious crimes i mean for example there was a case that just came out today where a black guy 1.00

00:54:22.780 basically killed an older person 84 year old and was sentenced with involuntary manslaughter

00:54:29.260 basically slap on the wrist for what we would call murder why did this happen because we now have

00:54:35.360 this atmosphere in the legal industry where they don't want to sentence black people or non-white

00:54:40.620 people to serious prison time because that's racist are you going to get the same kind of thing 0.78

00:54:45.220 where well if you try to kill an ice officer well if you try to go after federal law enforcement

00:54:49.380 it's not a real crime it's in the service of social justice therefore we're just going to give

00:54:54.380 you a slap on the wrist or just let you go it would be very interesting to see what happens when cases

00:54:58.940 like this one go to trial yeah no definitely some stuff that has been followed up on quickly that

00:55:03.940 moves as well um what was it so what was it again someone was talking about it was related to all the

00:55:09.780 fraud we've seen in minnesota and you know with i mean it just incredible that someone had broken down

00:55:16.040 like a million dollars per day in cash being like flown out of the minneapolis airport and and yes

00:55:25.260 part of that reason as a market is because they're the tsa at the minneapolis airport i've been through

00:55:30.520 there i know i know where it is it's all somalis you know i mean that they're all the it's all them

00:55:34.120 at the same time part of me is like doesn't that granted they might have just said oh you're fine

00:55:39.720 go ahead and just not register anything not say this was not put in a database but somehow they

00:55:44.800 know how much cash approximately might be more than that because this was also only what was declared

00:55:49.380 so there could be much more cash that which just simply wasn't declared that also was flown out but

00:55:54.040 they're talking like 7.7 tons uh you know metric tons of of 100 dollar bills being flown out of that

00:56:02.480 airport it's insane you know the level of of money and fraud and corruption you know you get the

00:56:09.100 impression that all we've done over the last 15 years that almost like the entirety of our economic

00:56:14.840 growth has just been paying for our own dispossession and it starts to hit home when you

00:56:19.220 have something like how much more expensive groceries are you have to pay a doctor's bill for your kids

00:56:24.040 you're dealing with gas prices or whatever else and you just think to your or the mortgage even

00:56:28.080 and you think to yourself illegals just don't have to deal with this they don't have to pay for food

00:56:34.920 they don't have to pay for housing they don't have to they get money for doing nothing they operate a

00:56:39.900 daycare center out of their home and get paid thousands of dollars that come from me ultimately

00:56:45.320 yep and then they just sit there yep and you have to wonder how many right and how many how many

00:56:50.880 white people are just kind of looking around and saying well because there's really only two 0.91

00:56:54.540 possibilities one is that white people say we are being ripped off and rise up in righteous

00:56:59.960 indignation and take our country back and in a very mild sense i think that's what the the whole

00:57:04.340 trump movement is all about but if that doesn't work ultimately what you are going to get is the

00:57:10.200 complete breakdown of any kind of social trust because white people are going to look around and 0.99

00:57:13.660 say well look if literally everything is a scam if america is just a corpse and we're just looting it

00:57:20.000 i want my cut right and how can you blame them yeah no exactly that's just it um why why do why

00:57:27.000 do anything it's not even a country anymore because a country is the people and the pit that and that's

00:57:32.640 eroded now that's that's gone and you say well it's not a racial thing look at the streets of

00:57:36.960 minneapolis it's all kinds of races or whatever okay fine sure to call them spiteful mutants against 0.65

00:57:41.620 normal people then or something but the point is at the end of the day it's still a it's still a

00:57:46.220 it's an anti-white momentum the reason why like whites back up the protests of ice is because

00:57:53.140 it's ultimately stick it to whitey right kind of thing it's ultimately like under america is a racist 0.98

00:57:58.540 white supremacist country and it must be destroyed therefore everything that undermines and erodes that 0.77

00:58:03.740 is good morally good right that's what we're looking at yeah the the left is much more honest about 0.93

00:58:08.720 the real stakes of this conflict if you go to any left winger very quickly you are it doesn't take

00:58:14.800 much you're going to find out that they think america is ultimately a white settler colonial

00:58:19.420 state it is fundamentally illegitimate that is a tragedy that europeans came to the new world i mean 1.00

00:58:24.580 think of the logical consequences of something like replacing columbus day with indigenous people's 0.97

00:58:28.820 day what you're really saying is that it's better off if europeans never came here what you're really

00:58:33.480 saying is that it's better off if america didn't exist and if somebody holds that position they in no way

00:58:39.560 can be held to be patriotic or even have a common identity with you they're just a domestic

00:58:43.680 enemy they're just they have no common interest with you by definition and the right understands

00:58:50.380 this in an implicit sense but they can't quite bring themselves to recognizing it explicitly the

00:58:57.880 only hope i think because god knows you and i have been yelling at these people our entire lives to wake

00:59:04.140 up to it but that doesn't quite cut it but the one thing that does wake them up is when leftists are 0.91

00:59:08.600 saying over and over and over again we hate you because we're white we hate america because it's white 0.95

00:59:12.980 you may say it's not about race but we are telling you it is it is we are willing to use force yeah 0.99

00:59:18.500 that has a way of waking people up because i think unfortunately or unfortunately i think this is

00:59:24.080 just reality most political positions are ultimately adopted in defiance of your enemies not because you

00:59:30.500 think yourself through to them yeah yeah definitely um yeah some of the latest here department of

00:59:36.180 justice investigates governor waltz and minneapolis mayor fray u.s official says again something needs to

00:59:41.620 come out of this though right because like even with all the fraud and all that stuff like if it

00:59:45.420 doesn't again i think there's a there's a greater movement here in terms of like actually halting

00:59:51.680 immigration from somalia then right and like but not just but don't just put a full stop on it like

00:59:56.740 start deportations right at some point otherwise it again will just be performative it will just

01:00:03.200 i think we talked about this last time this will be just what pisses off our enemies this is what 0.90

01:00:10.740 pisses off the anti-whites if you don't if you don't drive your enemy into the dirt they will 0.96

01:00:16.460 come back if you don't like if you don't push them out entirely then they will come back for you 0.99

01:00:21.300 and it's going to be 10 times worse than it was you know under biden the last biden regime right

01:00:25.320 right i mean that there's we have to be very careful in terms of how we think about this because

01:00:29.980 i understand this objection i share it to some extent which is that you're doing just enough

01:00:35.440 to make the left go nuts and you're not doing enough to really change the demographic equation

01:00:41.160 at the same time you have to think carefully about what it means to say okay we actually want

01:00:47.480 mass mass deportations we actually want these people gone there is no scenario where you get

01:00:53.940 mass deportations without scenes like we're seeing in minneapolis there's no scenario where these people

01:00:59.780 don't go there's no scenario where you don't have people who embody armor and guns dragging these

01:01:05.260 people out and so you can say well the trump administration maybe isn't doing enough or the

01:01:10.940 trump administration should be going after businesses more you know getting rid of the jobs

01:01:15.160 magnet imposing economic costs that may be a more efficient way of doing this kind of thing

01:01:19.600 that's a fair point but what you cannot say is the trump administration is not doing enough

01:01:26.080 but also we can't handle the optics of this yeah if you can't handle the optics of this

01:01:32.120 don't ever talk to me about remigration ever again no what the hell do you think that's going 0.97

01:01:37.140 to look like this is literally hard in your freaking hearts man you've never been more justified 0.96

01:01:41.920 to deal with the issue than in a situation like this this is what we're talking about is something

01:01:49.300 akin to the reconquista i mean it is that serious and what we're our european comrades who are

01:01:57.220 watching this should understand that if they're serious about remigration which is a concept that

01:02:02.460 has gone mainstream over the last year it's going to take even more than what we're seeing in

01:02:08.400 minneapolis there's no scenario where these people just leave on the run no and there i will freely

01:02:13.400 admit i think the trump administration should do more in terms of imposing economic costs but

01:02:19.460 obviously they're facing a lot of opposition from the business lobby from the chamber of commerce this is

01:02:23.960 a thing that they're going to have to deal with you can criticize the trump administration for that

01:02:28.240 but unfortunately as long as the republican party is dominated by the chamber of commerce this is just

01:02:33.440 going to be part of the coalition that we have to deal with and maybe that has to be dealt with at

01:02:37.500 some point in a more forceful way but as far as a lot of the other things they could be doing

01:02:42.000 to some extent they're already doing them i mean even something like paying people to leave

01:02:45.700 they're already doing that yeah i mean if we need to do that to drive self-deportation they are doing

01:02:50.700 yeah i mean apparently yeah apparently if you trust the numbers it's more people they claim

01:02:56.160 have that self-deported is that the claim well this is this is one of the arguments for why you have to

01:03:02.160 use these sorts of optics is basically right yeah you're basically scaring these people in the

01:03:06.680 yeah right yeah and it's a broader problem because we're we're demanding something that the masses of

01:03:17.560 americans may not be ready for jonathan bowden talked about this a long time ago in a speech on

01:03:22.120 vanguardism where he said you know people will say oh well there are these problems and a lot of them

01:03:28.500 are due to immigration but if somebody actually stepped up and started solving the problem

01:03:32.580 they would condemn it they would be privately pleased they would ritually denounce it they would

01:03:38.620 maybe quietly vote for the person and they would do all of these things simultaneously and that's

01:03:43.600 kind of where we're at i think if you said i mean joe rogan being a classic example of this where

01:03:48.720 he'll say like well immigration is illegal immigration is a big problem and then you see the optics of this

01:03:53.760 and it's like well i don't want to deal with this it's like okay to will the end is to will the means

01:03:59.480 but the problem is in a democracy people want the end without the means exactly and unfortunately the

01:04:07.520 biggest thing here is we have to deal with the biased media which is that you are going to get

01:04:12.300 24 7 coverage of the crying brown girl who is getting dragged back to guatemala or whatever from ice 0.99

01:04:19.720 you are not going to get the 24 7 coverage about the five-year-old american kid who was butchered by an

01:04:25.720 illegal yeah and unfortunately in a democracy media is sovereign and this is the fundamental problem that

01:04:32.400 we're dealing with which is that we all want the trump administration to go harder to go faster to

01:04:38.120 do more but the public is already having a hard time dealing with what it's already doing yeah well

01:04:43.920 again it's it's escalation on on both ends and that's just the cycle of it as it and that may be

01:04:49.120 what it takes i think that is i think this is like kind of like what you have to do yeah basically

01:04:54.080 i mean we talked about it a little bit last time and we said it's kind of funny that uh i'm back on

01:04:59.380 this well this is happening because i think last time we explicitly spoke about the idea of the

01:05:03.760 strategy of tension where basically you you pick a fight almost with the other side and have them

01:05:10.120 raise the stakes so then you can do more well what do you call this yeah i mean clearly clearly at the

01:05:16.640 end of december i think some people in the trump administration especially after the whole

01:05:20.760 redistricting thing fell flat because republicans in indiana and other red states are such wimps they

01:05:26.280 wouldn't go through with it i think clearly some people looked around and said we are going to get

01:05:30.460 stomped in the midterms so we need to really go all out this next year and they picked a fight and the

01:05:36.540 left has picked up the gauntlet and now now we're in a fight yep and ultimately the only way this problem

01:05:43.760 gets solved i think by which i mean demographic replacement is through strong executive action and to

01:05:49.440 some extent breaking the existing system and i'm not saying that president trump is going to be the guy to do

01:05:54.960 that i'm not saying this is it i mean as we all know nothing happens until something actually does

01:05:59.720 but if you were like what is step one or step two of that process this is it like what would you do

01:06:05.280 differently yeah and there's no 24-hour news coverage as you say of the little boy that was

01:06:09.640 just strangled by this uh anything the reporters feel yep yeah i mean you're like oh we need our free

01:06:15.640 child care here's your free child care yep there you go here's your free child care now drop it off 0.94

01:06:19.240 it's not paid for you'll kill your kid but you don't have to pay for it yep all right we got a couple

01:06:23.340 of chats here i gotta take dog whistler i heard mayor of yeah which exactly we talked about this

01:06:26.640 right uh i heard mayor of minneapolis a few days ago saying he was very concerned about the city

01:06:30.060 invaded being invaded by thousands of people who do not share the values of that you hold dear the

01:06:35.660 irony is he was talking about ice and the fbi not somalian fraudsters exactly one more here from dog

01:06:40.620 whistler uh who shares a link let me pull that in here what i why i read this while i read this some

01:06:45.620 folks need to get the somalians out of somalia because there are plans to use somalia for another 0.99

01:06:51.080 population so gaza can become part of the greater israel so migrate to u.s or europe well that that

01:06:56.040 is an inch i think that is an interesting dynamic in this of of the timing of why nick shirley's video

01:07:02.860 started going viral and i i covered this the other day and i was talking about this this has no do not

01:07:08.600 perceive this as me saying therefore we shouldn't talk about this that's not what i mean right this is

01:07:13.160 a necessary yes talk about it or whatever right kind of thing but there is an interesting thing here

01:07:18.480 where uh there's a geopolitical struggle uh you know currently there there's um aspirations of

01:07:25.040 israel i think it's actually get uh somaliland they're gonna potentially do an air force base

01:07:29.520 there maybe some type of uh of navy port or something like that there was talks of them letting in uh

01:07:36.160 refugees palestinians from gaza and stuff like that too is that part of the creation possibly i mean

01:07:40.800 the somali fraud ship has been like known since and kind of discussed in the media since like 2013 or

01:07:46.800 something like that um and it's only now that it's a kind of kind of politically expedient maybe

01:07:51.920 for whatever reason to bring it up and i'm saying it's only because of this but we also did you know

01:07:56.320 take that into account that we've had a large segment a large segment of the zionist um activists

01:08:02.160 within the u.s you know system and the government stuff like that talking about how important it is to

01:08:07.840 uh you know educate people on anti-semitism and all the criticism of israel this is not working

01:08:12.960 whatever and if i'm not saying it's all a diversion it's a necessary thing so i'm not saying today

01:08:17.440 don't don't talk about it um but it's possible that it it is a little bit of a kind of mudding

01:08:22.720 the waters i get at the same time there's a lot of exposés on israel and their involvement in the

01:08:27.120 u.s politics and all of a sudden everyone including us obviously sitting here talking about the somalis

01:08:31.600 now in minnesota and stuff and of course as i said what do you do these are all problems there it's

01:08:36.480 all of the above we have to address all of them and this is just now has the kind of the heat of the

01:08:40.000 moment uh strike while the iron is hot so it's necessary but i don't know what do you think

01:08:44.240 about it it's an interesting little side note to this too that it could be like yeah somali's bad 0.99

01:08:49.520 let's do foreign intervention and help out the division to get somaliland or something i don't

01:08:54.080 know what do you think of it it's going to be interesting to see i wouldn't be surprised if you

01:08:58.080 start seeing if only out of sheer spite from somebody like ilan omar who of course has given

01:09:03.440 very passionate speeches about how somalia has the inherent right to hold on to somaliland i think

01:09:08.560 our coast is what she called it our being a revealing phrase as far as what her real identity

01:09:14.080 is i think out of sheer spite as well as frankly support from israel they're probably going to say

01:09:19.920 you're going to see on the right the idea of independence for somaliland become a beloved

01:09:24.560 cause i would certainly expect some foreign lobbyists to start making some money on that

01:09:28.640 yeah yeah there is there is a broader question here which is and that we could have a whole show on

01:09:35.760 this i mean this is a broader debate where you have certain causes both domestically and internationally

01:09:43.280 which i think most nationalists would agree work to our advantage which also work to the advantage

01:09:49.360 of israel and does that therefore make these advantageous things bad so for example i mean i'm not

01:09:59.200 saying it's actually going to happen but let's say i think it was actually randy fine who we all know

01:10:03.360 what he wants i think it was actually randy fine basically saying like let's get rid of the somalis 0.73

01:10:07.760 he may have even yeah like introduced some sort of legislation yeah but let's let's say by some insane

01:10:13.360 miracle or whatever like that becomes the law and you're in congress and you know you've written

01:10:18.800 all the stuff and you're saying well you know the zionist lobby and this sort of stuff but now you have

01:10:22.720 to vote yes or no there's only two choices yes or no do you want these people gone and if you vote yes

01:10:29.440 yes you are siding with randy fine does it make you a traitor to say yes now i will freely admit i

01:10:36.880 will vote yes i can't i could you know people will be like well now it's actually and it's like well

01:10:43.360 i mean as my as my wife often says uh you know sometimes the enemy of your enemy is just another

01:10:47.840 enemy yeah well yeah exactly anyway again look we're look we're adults here there's competing interests

01:10:52.960 and factions and countries and all and sometimes our interests overlap although we're mortal enemies that's

01:10:58.640 just what that's just the game board you know i mean that's just what happens and so if it's if it

01:11:02.960 turns out that yeah because of this you also got the somalis out well obviously let's do it and then

01:11:07.600 you deal with the next problem right so it's it's always it's dichotomy that there's only two choices

01:11:11.680 and you have to pick what you know kind of that's the only thing or two sides rather and if you're not

01:11:16.720 on one of those sides or take one of the sides you like you can't play the game or something like

01:11:21.840 this is that's ridiculous um yeah i mean it's it's a tough thing and i know there there are probably a lot

01:11:26.880 of people will be like well actually this and that and um it's it's a debate worth having i mean 0.77

01:11:30.560 certainly oh sure yeah i'm not trying to be like oh you guys are conspiracy theorists or something

01:11:34.720 like that like no it's a real debate sure we have to be aware of like what's really going on who holds

01:11:39.360 like most of the power in the situation but at the same time i mean these people are a problem

01:11:47.440 and also these other people may not like them doesn't mean i have and the other point i neglected to

01:11:52.160 mention too but the other very important thing here is to the in conjunction with this and i know

01:11:57.760 it's it's a lot and it's messy and all yeah you know it's it's it's just chaos right but at some

01:12:04.240 point the discussion has to be had well how did these people end up here right what what are the

01:12:09.680 laws on the books are we not just talking about the heart seller act we're talking about i did a

01:12:13.840 rundown and i'm sure other people have obviously before me done done that but i was gonna probably do

01:12:18.160 a video on or something but just like i mean refuge the refugee thing really began post world war ii

01:12:24.400 in the sense that we see it now and it was actually to help other europeans right like moving displaced

01:12:29.120 populations in europe and things like that most of international laws exactly context yeah absolutely

01:12:34.480 post to that but then all of a sudden i forget when it was the first one after that 48 maybe or 49

01:12:40.080 maybe maybe early 50s it was the haitian thing and the cuban thing and then it was the venezuela and

01:12:46.160 haitia you know it just went on and on and like up to 65 of the heart seller act and then it was the

01:12:51.120 chinese this act and the bill to get let these people helping those and it just like you need to

01:12:56.720 like start undoing those things like unravel all of this and exit out of like unhcr exit out of the

01:13:06.000 migrant compacts that all the countries are part of like this is a long legal process obviously but it

01:13:10.960 just we must it must be done right trump administration just exited a bunch of u.n treaties

01:13:16.080 the other day so i mean this is this is something you can just kind of do i mean if we want to talk

01:13:20.400 about who's specifically responsible in this particular context look if we're talking about

01:13:24.560 heart seller if you're talking about the intellectuals involved if you're talking about

01:13:28.160 who spearheaded these radical movements i mean you're gonna you're gonna talk about the jewish issue

01:13:32.800 i mean that's what it is i mean if you're like who who were the guys doing this is this if you're

01:13:36.960 talking about who are the organizations in this state specifically now you get into questions well

01:13:41.440 who's actually getting paid i mean you're looking at like the lutherans now well yeah world church

01:13:45.760 services yeah yeah i mean tons of now the question the question becomes if people will be like well

01:13:50.960 you know i'm not trying to make some grand nichean critique of christianity here but like it's not

01:13:56.720 really even oh was it like the christian churches was it the lutherans as a social force really it's just

01:14:03.520 a question of here are these groups that are getting paid a tremendous amount of money to do this yes

01:14:09.440 why are they going along with it because you make a lot of money doing this i mean these

01:14:13.520 people are getting impressive salaries and they are moving this in for a reason the real question

01:14:17.680 becomes why are these groups getting funded yeah to facilitate their replacement when was this

01:14:23.680 legislation passed why are these religious groups getting taxpayer funds to do this if we want to

01:14:29.920 get into i mean because there's a broad sense in which you say well who is responsible who is doing

01:14:35.040 this and in some sense that's like easier to to point to because you can just be like well yeah

01:14:40.000 i mean these guys wrote these books and this is who spearheaded the movements and there it is but

01:14:43.840 then if you're like well why is this specifically happening in this place really it's just a question

01:14:49.200 of following the money no definitely uh you're absolutely right i mean uh yes highest they have

01:14:54.000 an annual budget operating budget of around 204 million this was last year uh but there's just one

01:15:00.000 partner as you said world church the u.s conference of catholic bishops gets even more than they do

01:15:05.120 yeah world church services spends about 280 million in 2024 for 2024 world relief has an operating budget

01:15:12.320 close to 200 000 they have catholic agencies the catholic relief service check this out expenses over

01:15:18.800 1.33 billion last year yep their revenue was 1.5 billion that year so they're also obviously pocketing

01:15:26.480 a few hundred millions along the way they're make they're making money on white the big business

01:15:30.960 white genocide you know white ethnic replacement replacement big business right you have the 0.74

01:15:36.080 now that's not the same as saying like yeah yeah i just didn't want just to interject really

01:15:40.400 quickly oh no sure go ahead yeah yeah this is not to say that like the catholics are responsible for

01:15:45.280 white genocide or something like that you can have a broader question as to whether yeah right but

01:15:51.600 at a certain point it's like well look if an institution they're all religious yeah they're

01:15:57.280 all religious well that's um people will get into because you can find breakdowns of like okay well

01:16:02.800 who actually works at this thing oh sure actually sure yeah but let's let's take the catholic one for

01:16:08.160 example like does the u.s conference of catholic bishops support mass immigration yes it does yeah

01:16:12.400 does the current pope support mass immigration yes it does has he specifically gone after the trump

01:16:16.720 administration for doing these things yes yes he has is the church itself or at least groups

01:16:22.560 controlled by the church getting taxpayer money to keep this going yes it is like at a certain

01:16:29.040 point you can be like well they're not the primary force responsible for moving these things okay yes i

01:16:33.360 agree but kind of a big cog yeah they kind of are yeah i mean like at a certain point if you're on the

01:16:38.960 payroll you could be like well they're not the guys in charge well then they're on the payroll yeah so

01:16:44.000 what do you want yep okay a couple more here the lutheran world federation for refugee aid spent

01:16:49.120 about 43 million euros what is that is that almost equivalent to the dollar now so maybe 50 million

01:16:54.240 bucks or something like that uh the lutheran world service i think you mentioned them right um 154 million

01:17:00.480 euros and then of course you got and and let's note again all the majority there's private donors

01:17:06.960 they have different funds you know things like those endowments or whatever but the majority of

01:17:10.320 it is government grants it comes from the tax we're paying for this right we're paying for this

01:17:15.600 you have when you sit down in april and you're figuring out your taxes you need to remember like

01:17:19.280 this is why you go to work you are going to work to pay for your own replacement that is what your

01:17:24.560 government is doing to you the uh un refugee agency the un hcr uh gets about 40 of its donation

01:17:32.560 from the u.s government and they are around operating around 2 billion annually right now they did

01:17:38.640 they only received in 2025 by mid november mid 2025 they had only received about 23 percent of its 10.6

01:17:46.800 billion appeal they wanted almost 11 billion they wanted in 2025 and they only received 23 percent of

01:17:53.440 it so that's it's that's something at least right you have the international organization for migration

01:17:59.680 iom uh they have an estimated 8.2 billion operating budget for 2025 which is up uh from

01:18:08.640 around 3 billion in 2023 it's a massive increase for them right anyway i could go on here in the

01:18:13.120 list i broke down but it says i mean an incredible amount of money money in this big money oh i mean

01:18:19.920 if our movement had half of the budget that even one of these groups had we would have won by

01:18:28.160 now we would have won you know and it brings up you brought up the united nations now of course

01:18:34.800 maybe i'm i'm enough of a old school conservative that i still like the old the idea of like get the

01:18:39.040 u.s out of the u.n you could dismiss that as sort of like republican slop but whatever i mean i would

01:18:43.840 rather not be in the u.n but here's one of the interesting things and this again this goes to the

01:18:47.840 debate that our movement is seemingly obsessed with right now why has the trump administration been

01:18:53.520 so critical of the u.n lately immigration is one reason there are a lot of reasons that the trump

01:18:57.440 administration is not particularly favored with the u.n doesn't want to give it some money but of course

01:19:01.440 the u.n as a body has been very critical of israel lately now there was even some talk not long ago

01:19:07.200 when the operation in gaza was going on of the u.s withdrawing from the u.n specifically over the

01:19:12.400 israel issue now where does that leave us if let's say in some crazy scenario the u.s does something

01:19:19.760 insane like we are just not going to fund the u.n anymore maybe not leave but we're just not going to

01:19:25.040 pay it we're not going to give it that part of the budget which would devastate its operations

01:19:29.200 but we're not going to pay it specifically because we want to have israel's back

01:19:34.000 what are people in the movement going to say is this a good thing is this a bad thing is it

01:19:37.680 actually more principle to keep paying the u.n to demographically replace us but to show that we're

01:19:43.600 anti-zionists or something like that i mean this is i'm not coming down on one side or the other i'm

01:19:48.800 saying this is a discussion that i think a lot of people are having right now and maybe the unfortunate

01:19:54.000 answer is we have way more enemies and way more institutions against us than we think we did

01:19:59.600 yeah no absolutely it's a good point hey let me take this uh we got another huge dono here from uh

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01:20:27.680 thank you we always appreciate you albert so much thank you um so here's here's another example here

01:20:32.480 obviously that the i mean this is obvious we we know this but but it's interesting when

01:20:38.640 it's interesting when these things kind of hit the mass consciousness right because like

01:20:43.200 you could talk about the welfare alone as we as you mentioned earlier i think there's a dutch

01:20:47.440 study out uh recently that talked about something like 17 billion a year or something euros a year 0.97

01:20:54.320 just to like pay for these people to be in our countries to eat shit and breed essentially i 1.00

01:20:58.080 mean that's what else what are they doing there oh maybe occasionally robbing and raping obviously 0.99

01:21:02.240 but you know beyond that that's basically it right but just the snap benefits here's one right

01:21:07.680 it it's just it's astronomical and all of a sudden it's like it just kind of clicks and it's all over

01:21:13.680 the news all of a sudden here's this massive it kind of happened with i guess doge and like usa id

01:21:18.000 recently or like you know back in november whenever it was right uh or maybe it was earlier but anyway

01:21:23.040 same thing there like this whoa look at this like we're paying for you know tranny theaters in in 0.88

01:21:28.320 albania like i had no idea you know millions to these weird causes um and and you see these are

01:21:35.360 you see these articles from nicholas kristoff being like oh there are all these people in the

01:21:39.200 the congo who are dying because america's not paying for their health care system anymore 1.00

01:21:42.800 so what the hell are we paying for the health care system of the congo and furthermore if we

01:21:46.960 have to pay for the health care system of the congo why don't we bring back colonialism like

01:21:51.280 clearly they need the europeans to be running the show one way or the other yeah no definitely um

01:21:55.760 absolutely it's justified at this point uh the framework that has allowed the illegality to take

01:22:03.760 place is legal if that makes sense the entire structure of making and making sure that this happens

01:22:11.360 is legal and clearly that's the problem and that's what you have to attack right

01:22:15.520 um so here's just one clip let me play this here about the snap benefits and all the dead people

01:22:19.840 that are on it and stuff came out recently here um sent us their data to to help figure out well

01:22:25.600 what that looked like we found 200 000 dead people or people using dead people social security numbers

01:22:31.360 we found half a million people getting more than two times what they should have getting those

01:22:36.320 benefits twice we found some guy getting benefits in five states and maria this is just the red states

01:22:42.640 i mean the red states normally have a smaller program tighter accountability and control the

01:22:47.600 blue states sued us and so we're in another active litigation on that they don't want california new

01:22:52.560 york they don't want to turn their data over so that we can help them root out the fraud

01:22:56.960 and then the minnesota piece of course which we've all been covering is remarkable so

01:23:00.720 we are in court we're going to work really hard to make sure we're protecting the american taxpayer

01:23:04.480 all right anyway can you imagine like california or states like that like the fraud

01:23:09.040 that takes place i think there was a report from an auditor that said there was 70 billion in terms of

01:23:14.960 waste uh now fraud waste yeah you know same thing but yeah if if you look at what i think the trump

01:23:24.560 administration is trying to do they have already essentially nuked tim waltz he has dropped out of

01:23:30.400 the gubernatorial re-election bid and i think he was so deluded that he thought he could be a front

01:23:35.760 runner for the democratic nomination in 2028 his political career is basically done i think what

01:23:42.000 they're going to try to do next is they're going to pivot to california to take out gavin and the way

01:23:46.640 you do that is you essentially do the same kind of playbook you find the fraud you highlight it we

01:23:51.760 might get a mysterious little independent report that magically goes viral who could expect it

01:23:56.560 where they find you know daycares or education centers or leering centers as it was up in

01:24:02.480 minneapolis that they find is the thing and then you go after gavin on that because obviously there's

01:24:07.360 a lot of fraud in california and of course they're spending so much money and they can't actually do

01:24:10.960 anything i mean everybody jokes about the high-speed rail there hasn't been a single rail laid and yet

01:24:15.360 they've spent however many millions of dollars that's not a failed program no that's that's money the

01:24:22.160 money is going to various minority contractors yeah political out like the point of these things

01:24:27.120 is to pay off political allies now the problem of course is that in a democracy this is actually

01:24:33.680 the correct and winning strategy i mean politics is fundamentally about patronage and if you are on

01:24:40.560 the side that's saying hey guys we need to spend our money more wisely and then the other side is

01:24:45.920 saying vote for us and we'll give you free money on long enough timeline the second side wins every

01:24:50.640 single time and can the right build a kind of patronage machine that isn't just based on fraud

01:24:57.280 that could kind of lead us to where we need to go i don't know especially because we're so crippled

01:25:02.640 by a lot of the beliefs of the conservative movement when it comes to limited government and

01:25:06.240 what the state is and is not allowed to do but we're gonna kind of have to do that and for people

01:25:12.240 asking what that would that look like probably the closest thing i can think of to patronage for

01:25:17.680 the right that's occurred in my lifetime is ice yeah exactly definitely that that's your that's

01:25:24.080 your operating budget right there what if you know and again i mean bounties bounties get rid of

01:25:28.960 illegals would be another nice program if anybody in the administration indeed well while we're talking

01:25:33.440 about uh kind of religious groups i guess who are under the um scrutiny here in terms of fraud and

01:25:38.000 welfare and everything well here's another uh group that uh too many people don't look at tyler

01:25:42.320 oliviera who made of course the famous um poop flinging documentary down in india a while ago

01:25:48.160 he did this little segment i thought this was funny check this out this is curious joel a village

01:25:53.040 of 44 000 hasidic jews in upstate new york that primarily speak yiddish have an average of seven

01:25:59.520 kids per family rely heavily on state assistance and welfare programs like medicare snap housing

01:26:05.440 assistance and tax credits from their many kids how many kids do most people have out here 17 18.

01:26:11.120 how do they afford 17 18 kids they are proud to do what the torah says that you need to be multiple

01:26:16.480 and and fruitful wow how do people afford to have like 10 kids out here the community is based on

01:26:21.520 this so okay so wealthy members of the community give charity yes mostly i don't talk to suspicious

01:26:27.280 person how am i suspicious do you study torah you work for hamas how do you make money

01:26:35.680 how about your wife your wife i'm doing uh home kit brocade construction most people on medicaid snap

01:26:43.120 ebt i don't know i don't know i can't speak for other people what about you i'm not going to tell

01:26:47.360 about myself the one thing i am curious about though is the welfare use are you on welfare no the jewish

01:26:53.040 people just some kids joe their taxes covers everything that we take back they pay a lot

01:26:58.160 of property tax you know anyone on welfare here i won't comment on that question come on no why not

01:27:02.880 no what do you guys do for work here you guys have like businesses work a job study torah i have a job

01:27:10.960 what do you do how many sales what do you sell food okay what food do you sell chocolate i feel

01:27:18.640 like i'm getting bamboozled right here excuse me what percentage of people would you say use ebt for

01:27:24.720 their groceries here 100 100 what percentage would you say 35 a little bit difficult to conclude what

01:27:31.040 to take away from that let's pop in here and say shalom the synagogue lots of people praying i'm not

01:27:36.720 sure the schedule exactly but nine o'clock sharp they're not at work question for you what do most

01:27:41.680 men do for work here can you give me some ideas oh i'm just asking uh hasidic jews out here what do 0.99

01:27:47.920 you mean do people here survive off of welfare bt can also get benefits it's 259 why aren't people at

01:27:57.840 work these are all teenagers how old are you and 21 you gotta wonder what these people do for employment

01:28:04.000 so if you want to talk about sharia law and people living in a theocratic ethnic enclave

01:28:08.880 look no further curious joel is an example of only jews living here and a lot of them 0.99

01:28:16.000 all right good job uh tyler that's highly entertaining but yeah this is what you get right

01:28:21.440 uh everyone is doing the jeets are doing this the you know the somali is it it's

01:28:26.080 it's everyone but whites we're still notice notice this comes just after i think it was a

01:28:34.560 newspaper in texas did an expose on patriot front where they said we've got a big revelation we found

01:28:40.800 that these four people have businesses and we need to make sure we expose these businesses and we need

01:28:46.560 to destroy everything so it's okay for every other group to live on welfare at our expense but it is not 0.90

01:28:53.360 okay for white people to have business to work to work to do things and by the way i didn't really

01:29:03.280 expose the minnesota fraud though it wasn't until nick shirley exposed it until they actually did

01:29:08.160 something okay back to your point and we'll address that sorry yeah we'll address that in a sec but yeah

01:29:13.200 i mean if you look at some of the businesses that were being addressed i saw one of them was like

01:29:16.560 roofing which of course i've been assured is a job that white people just won't do i guess as it turns 0.89

01:29:21.360 out it's a job that white people just aren't even allowed to do right exactly yeah and of course 0.94

01:29:27.120 why because they were undercut they were hanging illegals all you know all these 0.95

01:29:31.360 problems along the way here's a piece you were talking about here too so so to to pay for the 0.67

01:29:36.480 taxes that is to the benefit of all these uh welfare uh you know parasites essentially no that is not 0.93

01:29:41.600 okay for these white nationalists it's it's incredible wow uh yeah to the comment there thank you uh 0.95

01:29:48.560 occidental uh occidental lux no they did not expose the minnesota fraud uh you're correct however i'm

01:29:55.440 talking about the timing of the thing earlier there right i thought it was kind of i always feel

01:29:59.760 there's something else they know now this is kind of a deeper analysis i guess of the news cycle overall

01:30:04.720 or whatnot but sometimes i'm wondering they've kind of over this is not always true depends on what

01:30:10.880 it's not simple as that but i i've they've come to realize even the mainstream media to a certain

01:30:16.560 extent that they are delegitimized and and the majority of the power cannot live in you know

01:30:21.840 among like independent influencers and content creators more now than they did before this is

01:30:27.120 the reason why netanyahu you're paying 7 000 bucks per post in some cases to push their narratives and

01:30:33.200 stuff right that's where it lies nick shirley's doing great work so this is not to him uh i'm glad

01:30:39.040 he did it this is 100 necessary but you know he went down to israel recently he was doing some

01:30:43.680 interview with the last governor of gaza or something like that he was like a big propaganda

01:30:47.280 campaign and that's why people started questioning that like okay is he just doing this now to release

01:30:52.320 this information is it connected to the somaliland that we talked about before this has been known

01:30:56.560 since 2013 there was articles about it i think he picked up a local guy there in minneapolis um that

01:31:02.160 knew a lot about a lot of this fraud so i'm saying part of it is organic but then it's kind of an

01:31:07.040 inorganic thing where like you have a select few content creators and influencers that regularly breaks that

01:31:13.120 containment they're like outside of the boundary they're like i see them as a containment paroled

01:31:17.920 that's what i call them they're like they're permitted to do their thing and if it catches on

01:31:22.000 or if they're boosted artificially that becomes the big driving stories now for most of the news

01:31:27.200 networks even right right i mean one of the things you learn very quickly if you work in any kind of

01:31:32.160 media is that nothing just happens right i mean right there's always something behind it that pushes a

01:31:36.400 certain story and obviously when you look at the fraud up there you can find new stories going back

01:31:40.960 even a decade where they're talking about this kind of thing why does it become an issue now

01:31:44.400 now i think the the nature of the piece you notice how extraordinary it is i mean you can't make up

01:31:50.480 something like quality leering center right i mean that's just too good so to some extent like it's

01:31:55.360 just because it is viral yeah it's too good and so you can't you can't push a story that's a dud no

01:32:03.200 matter how much money you have behind right there does have to be a certain kernel of truth there does have

01:32:08.560 to be something entertaining there does have to be something compelling so it is partially just

01:32:13.040 because of that partially it's also because i think the administration was looking for it because

01:32:17.600 conservatives were looking for it you could argue that maybe even there was foreign operatives pushing

01:32:22.720 it for this reason or another reason but i think it's it's more that the administration needed to pick a

01:32:30.880 fight and i think they kind of seized on this because let's face it the latter half of 2025 was not

01:32:38.000 too good for the trump administration and even though the polls are still not great depending

01:32:42.640 on what you're looking at it does seem like they've really turned a corner in 2026 i mean for better or

01:32:48.560 worse they are going hard they are not backing away from any fights they are trying to pick fights in

01:32:54.080 fact both in terms of foreign policy and domestic policy and this was the thing they seized on yeah

01:32:59.840 and again i don't think it's gonna i don't think it's gonna stop with minnesota because

01:33:04.400 if i'm there and i'm how do i take down david newsome this is the way you do it yeah no definitely

01:33:09.680 i wouldn't be surprised to see this guy doing uh the door-to-door in california yeah no exactly uh

01:33:14.640 also it's interesting that like his he's all it's he's blown up so much right that all of a sudden

01:33:20.960 everyone already knows his face and stuff so now he's like it's not even enough when they're hunting

01:33:24.480 him down exactly i mean he had five security guys with him yeah it doesn't matter you know i mean they

01:33:28.800 they corner that guy and they they need to leave or it's going to end badly you know i mean like

01:33:33.120 that's just what it is um yeah it's it's incredible it's crazy uh it's the media too the minnesota

01:33:38.880 star tribune was like reporting on his location i think it was the star tribune i hope i'm not

01:33:42.160 mispaking but there were some media outlets like reporting on his location saying like oh he's been

01:33:46.400 seen in this area like doesn't that tell you anything that the the respectable journalists they

01:33:51.040 can't be bothered to investigate the fraud but they can be bothered to tell all their little

01:33:55.200 anthio for our friends where this guy can be found yeah i wonder why they want to do that

01:33:59.360 okay this this then is this an angle then um how is it that an independent youtuber again he didn't

01:34:07.040 break this or he was known before but from from the public's uh perception i guess how they saw this

01:34:13.280 coming it was like outer left field out of nowhere i think it began right with that actually they were

01:34:17.680 looking into the covid uh pay payouts and stuff i think that's how it started the ppp fraud the trump 0.98

01:34:22.560 administration has been cracking down on that a little bit and god knows i feel like such an idiot 0.97

01:34:28.240 i mean it seems like every non-white in the country just yeah took advantage of tens of thousands of 0.99

01:34:33.360 free money and yeah the trump administration is going to find some of these people but 99 of them

01:34:37.760 are going to get away with it yeah i mean again this was a feature not a bug they wanted this fraud

01:34:42.000 it's probably pocketed by other people along the way i think in minneapolis the airport there he started

01:34:46.720 with like a few mil 70 million per year initially and i forget how far back it goes it was also like

01:34:53.200 20 i forget what it was whether it was what are i 2010 or something i forget when it was anyway um

01:34:59.680 and then it really started picking up and as they realized that they could do it they just started

01:35:03.600 doing more and more and it culminated like in a million dollars per year that they're able to ship out

01:35:08.960 and part of me is like even statistically if they knew this it must have been a register in a database

01:35:14.720 somewhere they knew they can compare it i think it was uh someone on steve banner's network talking

01:35:19.520 about it he was saying like we compared it with the cash outflow you know statistics from other

01:35:24.800 major airport hubs like chicago and you know seattle going to you know asia primarily and things like

01:35:29.920 this and he said minneapolis airport was like 90 90 to 95 percent more than what they saw in any other

01:35:36.800 airport this should have been flagged earlier but i can't have to feel therefore that they like that

01:35:41.600 they let it happen they wanted who knows who's pocketing that money it was flown to dubai i

01:35:46.720 believe right from from america to dubai and then they don't i'm not sure if they've lost a track of

01:35:51.600 it or what happened after that and part of it sure maybe that's too some of it ended up in the hands

01:35:56.080 of al-shabab apparently right and again now you have that funding the terrorist side so that you can use

01:36:01.280 it as an excuse right later on i think that was the first story that kind of started all this was

01:36:06.560 chris rufo's story on how a lot of this money was being used to fund al-shabab and you could argue

01:36:13.280 well what's the motivation behind that and what pushed it but that story got a lot of traction and

01:36:17.760 that's what started the boulder down the hill because then you had the daycare investigation

01:36:22.320 after that yeah and then after that everybody's talking about somali fraud yep exactly that's the

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Red Ice TV - January 16, 2026

Minnesota Meltdown： North Star State ICE Insurrection In Full Swing - Flashback Friday Ep338

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