Red Ice TV - Nationalism For White People & Activist Persecution in Australia

00:00:00.000 welcome ladies and gentlemen i'm lana joining me from down under is joel davis and tom sewell who

00:00:20.640 are mass deportation enthusiasts we'll discuss how mass immigration is transforming australia

00:00:26.340 and really the entire west how did we get here and what can be done about it welcome joel great to

00:00:32.580 be here i finally got an invite to the cool kids club so it's a pleasure to be here let's get into

00:00:38.260 there's so much i want to get into including the outrageous activist persecution that's happening

00:00:43.140 in australia thomas i know you went to jail for some bogus charges we'll also get into that

00:00:47.380 but i think a great place to begin is really to tell us how you both became a nationalist what

00:00:52.960 made you first start thinking about being white and realizing how race mattered everyone has a

00:00:59.260 story so let's start with you thomas i was born in new zealand to the dismay of all my australian

00:01:05.140 friends and colleagues in this struggle and uh my family i'd say my father was a big influence on me

00:01:13.360 he wasn't openly or outwardly fascistic or national socialist but he certainly understood the concept

00:01:20.100 of race he used to always complain about from a liberal always from a liberal perspective he used

00:01:24.920 to complain about how you know why don't the whites get treated equally isn't it isn't the whole point

00:01:30.520 equality and egalitarianism and he would always complain that uh maoris got special treatment in

00:01:36.400 new zealand or you know in the uk where he was born and where our family is from how uh you know all

00:01:41.800 these pakistanis and africans moved into their areas and got assistance and help and felt like the white

00:01:47.260 people were sort of pushed out and so i i did have a basic understanding of race um certainly the most

00:01:54.040 radical conversation i ever had with my father was he explained when they had their honeymoon in south

00:01:58.840 africa and we had family in rhodesia and in south africa and he caught up with some family and family

00:02:04.500 friends and basically they were just describing why genocide they were describing what was going on in

00:02:10.940 south africa um what happened in rhodesia and why they had to flee and uh you know talking about

00:02:18.320 living in these compounds away from the blacks but having to keep guns on them at all times

00:02:23.000 because there was instances where the black security guards would turn on the whites

00:02:26.720 and you know at 10 years old that's a pretty heavy conversation to be privy to and so that that

00:02:33.100 definitely helped shape a world view of okay like i'm starting to notice this um the next step from

00:02:39.300 there was early high school and late primary school i became pretty obsessed with history

00:02:43.620 and as hitler said you know first i came to love history then i became a nationalist so having a

00:02:49.120 deep understanding of ancient greek ancient roman and ancient german history or germanic history

00:02:54.060 uh i just love studying that so having that wealth of knowledge uh these books are probably still in

00:03:01.860 most school libraries if you if you can find them um i don't think they were overly political but just

00:03:06.840 having a base knowledge of of these people of our people and what we've achieved over thousands of

00:03:12.660 years to me helped build a sense of of self-identity uh of self-pride and i felt an attachment to to this

00:03:21.800 history i didn't feel like it was some foreign concept i i read it as these are our ancestors and i had

00:03:28.000 that knowledge even back then uh from there certainly i noticed the racial demographics change in my high

00:03:34.740 school and i lived in a very multicultural area that was slowly going from maybe 10 to 20 percent

00:03:41.100 non-european to about 10 to 20 percent european and this happened in about a decade so very quickly

00:03:48.980 um i noticed the collusion between the people that ran my high school the principal and all the all the

00:03:56.020 sort of hierarchy of the high school they were having business relationships with real estate agents

00:04:01.600 and they were having relationships with uh chinese developers so they were the the people that were

00:04:08.060 running my high school were going over to china and having business meetings with chinese people

00:04:13.380 and simultaneously the property prices in my area were going from about 500 000 it was a pretty

00:04:18.960 middle class area upper middle class area to about two million dollars in a very short period of space

00:04:24.700 so i could see this collusion and i was still only probably 15 at this point

00:04:28.860 and uh i started studying world war ii and history and i i i didn't understand why hitler was the bad

00:04:34.560 guy i certainly didn't understand that i didn't see or hear anything that he had said that was bad

00:04:39.200 uh after that i i you know i was i was always drawing swastikas on the desk for some reason at school i'm not

00:04:45.540 sure why at the time your dad your dad didn't teach you that no no no my dad my dad is a uh like my dad

00:04:53.420 thinks churchill was the good guy my dad thinks that the the anglo-saxons fought the germans uh you

00:04:58.920 know for good reason and you know we're not speaking he sort of believes that boomer lie my dad's a boomer

00:05:03.700 he was born in 1951 and you know his dad fought in world war ii against the germans so uh and my mom's

00:05:10.000 grandfather fought uh as a lancaster bomber pilot as well against the germans and bombed german city so

00:05:14.920 there's a lot of uh bad harmony a lot of bad karma in my family that we've done a lot to hurt the germans

00:05:20.400 and hurt our our brothers in these brothers wars and for me that was always uh you know i want to

00:05:26.480 side with my father and my grandfather my great-grandfather but then i'm reading this

00:05:30.400 history of world war ii and i'm reading about hitler and i'm learning about hitler and it was

00:05:34.240 just always in the back of my mind and uh then i kind of fell down i joined the army uh and i fell

00:05:40.660 down more of a focus on the anti-islam stuff for sure and i started watching tommy robinson and i was

00:05:47.020 always confused as to why he was raising uh waving israeli flags this is sort of going back to 2013

00:05:51.720 and stuff and there was a lot of um a lot of terror attacks uh and then on youtube back then youtube was

00:05:57.780 amazing and i watched all these different sort of hitler videos and hitler hype videos uh my favorite

00:06:02.700 was probably one called the flood comes or die flute comp i can't speak german but that's my memory of it

00:06:06.840 and i just thought this is magical this is mystical this is something i've always been drawn to the

00:06:11.800 swastika and this is just roaring in even further and uh then there were some breaking points where

00:06:17.500 i watched the sundell interviews uh i watched videos on the holocaust uh or the holo hoax how

00:06:22.920 do you want to put it and uh irving videos sundell interviews and i just thought this is all a lie

00:06:28.760 we've been lied to the whole time and and my instinct to to always be fascinated with the third reich and

00:06:33.980 always be fascinated with hitler was right and then i said i read my kampf uh properly for the first time

00:06:39.140 because i had a really crappy copy someone bought me my kampf in high school but it was like a jewish

00:06:43.880 version of it it was only like 180 pages and it wasn't correct i read it and i didn't really like

00:06:49.100 it at all i thought it was boring and then i i met blair kopf and i believe blair actually bought me

00:06:54.980 my first copy of my kampf and um i read that and i i was just from that moment i was just actually i

00:07:01.360 think it was just before i met blair it must have been a girlfriend at the time or someone definitely

00:07:04.560 bought me my kampf i didn't buy it myself and it was the ralph manheim edition with the crappy

00:07:08.280 footnotes but i still i just loved it i i just loved it so much and from that moment on i engaged

00:07:13.380 uh full-time i've been full-time since about 2014 in uh white nationalist politics uh in different

00:07:19.720 versions different variations and from that moment i've just dedicated myself entirely to to uh you

00:07:25.760 know adolf hitler's vision of of uh europe of the aryan ideal the overman the coming man however you

00:07:33.080 want to put it i've just worked towards that ideal as best as i can with what i've been with the clay

00:07:37.740 that god has made me and you're only 30 so you've been at this for a while at a pretty young age

00:07:43.680 right yeah i think i just turned 31 but yeah i've been doing this since publicly since 21 yeah publicly

00:07:49.560 since 21 joel how about you yeah well when i was a teenager i um there were many like obvious signs

00:07:59.820 that i would become what i've become but i didn't really put it all together yet like i've really found

00:08:04.720 racist banter and jokes hilarious and uh we'd often engage in that and uh i remember i can't remember

00:08:12.740 how old i was but when i was a teenager there was a there was a mountain dew poll and they said we got

00:08:18.420 a new mountain dew flavor and we're going to basically let the people vote on what we're going to call it

00:08:23.660 and 4chan hijacked the poll and uh voted hitler did nothing wrong as the flavor of the new mountain

00:08:30.680 dew and i thought that was the most fucking hilarious thing uh ever i was like what is this

00:08:35.760 site 4chan so that was how i became aware of 4chan i saw that in the news um and and i thought the

00:08:42.380 reaction to it was quite hilarious and i was really disappointed that mountain dew didn't go through

00:08:46.620 with it i really wanted them to make the hitler did nothing wrong cans and i wanted to buy one and i was

00:08:50.440 like why wouldn't they make that that's hilarious uh anyway so there was like echoes of of things uh

00:08:57.160 i uh i i became kind of fascinated with almost like pretending to be a nazi for comedic value like i was

00:09:05.140 like an ironic i was an irony bro nazi in a conversation um and uh yeah i used to have really

00:09:12.500 long blonde hair my hair's gotten darker as i got older but i had i was a metalhead teenager and had

00:09:18.120 long hair down to like you know down to my chest and um we have this thing in australia i don't know

00:09:24.640 if they have it in other countries called like the world's greatest shave it's like basically you get

00:09:28.380 people to sponsor you to shave your head and then you give the money to like cancer research or

00:09:32.400 something yeah so i did that and i shaved my head full skinhead and then um and then people at

00:09:38.960 school i was about 15 or 16 and the people at school started saying oh you're a skinhead uh and i was

00:09:45.020 like yeah ho hitler motherfucker you know i'm a skinhead and i realized the non-white kids at

00:09:49.540 school they they didn't realize i was joking they like literally thought i was a skinhead and they

00:09:54.120 acted completely differently they were like all intimidated and that made me feel pretty cool so

00:09:58.620 like i kind of felt this kind of pull towards uh towards nazism of sorts but it didn't ideologically

00:10:07.240 form my politics was more i was more of just like a libertarian um anti-establishment uh i knew that

00:10:14.620 the people who ran the world uh were the bankers i knew that uh politics was fraudulent i knew that

00:10:20.540 there was malevolent forces in control i knew that a lot of those bankers were jewish um but i didn't

00:10:28.280 put i didn't connect all the dots on the significance of race uh necessarily uh although i didn't i was i was

00:10:36.560 open-minded i just wasn't really exposed and then as i got into my late teens i started becoming exposed

00:10:42.320 largely through libertarian internet communities so this is in like the early early uh to mid 2010s

00:10:48.000 so i probably became an ideological white nationalist around 2014 2015 um because that was the time at

00:10:55.380 which there was this really strong libertarian to uh you know nationalist or libertarian to fascist

00:11:01.220 pipeline on the internet uh i remember basically race got brought into a lot of libertarian arguments

00:11:07.120 like i remember arguing about gun rights for example you know in australia we don't have gun rights

00:11:11.120 uh and a lot of australians have this kind of perverse pseudo patriotism about how we don't

00:11:17.080 have gun rights and how this makes us better than the americans for some reason because america is

00:11:21.100 always having mass shootings and uh look at all the shootings that are happening in america we don't

00:11:25.360 have a lot more honestly now it's all the trannies shooting everyone so yeah well yeah of course but i

00:11:32.260 always thought guns were cool so i was like no i want to have a gun it's bullshit that i don't have a gun

00:11:36.980 uh i want to have one i want to be able to like if anyone else has a gun i want to have a gun so

00:11:42.180 that i can defend myself um and it just always seemed logical to me i guess i'm an anglo-saxon i

00:11:48.300 believe in my ancient rights instinctively and so i was i was against that position and i would argue

00:11:54.100 but then often even when arguing with australians would have to argue about america because america is

00:11:58.740 the test case for a country that actually has gun rights so uh when arguing about the united states when

00:12:05.940 you look at it when you break it down state by state i remember like there was like this stefan

00:12:09.120 molyneux video i watched back in like 2014 the truth about uh gun crime or something i remember

00:12:14.620 that one actually yes yeah and he just went through how it doesn't matter how liberal or conservative

00:12:19.880 each state is how because you know obviously in uh blue states they've got a lot of restrictions on

00:12:24.560 guns almost to the point that you don't actually have gun rights in states like illinois or new york

00:12:29.860 it's almost like a european country or australia with the way that the gun laws are whereas

00:12:34.420 obviously in the red states or even blue states that are quite homogenous like i believe in like

00:12:38.740 vermont or something like i don't think they have that many restrictions on guns even though it's a

00:12:42.440 democrat state because well they don't have any blacks anyway the point is is that uh that's the

00:12:47.620 conclusion the conclusion is it doesn't matter what your gun laws are the states that have a lot of

00:12:51.780 blacks have more gun crime the states that don't have a lot of blacks have almost no gun crime

00:12:55.400 it doesn't matter how liberal or conservative they are it doesn't matter what their restrictions are

00:12:59.340 uh and obviously we know that like the crime rate is way higher with blacks so whereas if you look at

00:13:05.440 like white americans with gun with gun rights their murder rate is the same as white australians

00:13:10.320 uh even though we don't have gun rights so you know if you want to kill someone you figure it out

00:13:14.600 whether guns are legal or illegal so anyway the point is is that uh that that forced me to make

00:13:22.020 like a racist like a race realist argument basically to defend a component of libertarianism and then i

00:13:26.820 started developing other race realist arguments from the libertarian discourse at the time about how

00:13:31.300 you know why are they importing mexicans into the united states well because they're going to vote for

00:13:36.160 socialism all these kinds of things so i started to become more racially conscious that if i wanted to

00:13:40.820 have the my ancient anglo-saxon rights i needed to be in a country uh full of anglo-saxons or at the

00:13:47.940 very least white people who agreed that we should have those rights uh because that's our culture

00:13:53.060 and uh so that led me down a pipeline and then you know i was already kind of aware of 4chan and so

00:13:58.820 on and that just led me down a pipeline where after thinking those thoughts it takes like three months

00:14:02.780 and i'm you know i'm a holocaust then you're a nazi yeah yeah exactly so that so then i became that's

00:14:10.100 what i became and then uh i uh i had this trajectory to become an intellectual that i that i wanted to walk

00:14:17.600 down the path of and uh so basically i was reading books and so on and i thought if i kind of work

00:14:25.000 through the system eventually i can occupy a position you know in academia and then become

00:14:29.360 like a based academic or something well that's yeah i was walking down i was trying to go down

00:14:35.200 that path for a little you know a couple years there and then uh ultimately i just came to the

00:14:40.000 realization that that doesn't make any sense like as soon as i reveal my power level i'm going to get

00:14:46.300 removed from these institutions why am i trying to build a career in this trajectory and around that

00:14:50.420 time i became friends with uh another australian youtuber dissident right youtuber at the time who

00:14:56.860 who went by the moniker true dill tom people might remember him he deleted his account uh years ago

00:15:01.960 but he was kind of like keith woods before keith woods um he was uh he kind of had this um you know

00:15:08.940 this youthful exuberance and intellectual bent and so on we became uh personal friends and uh he he's

00:15:16.780 like oh can you do a podcast with me on julius some julius everler book i can't remember which one it

00:15:21.380 was i think it was the metaphysics of war or something said yeah sure that sounds fun so we did

00:15:25.800 a podcast and and he's like can we do another podcast let's do one on like then we did like

00:15:30.380 spanglers prussianism and socialism or something we just started doing all these intellectual podcasts

00:15:34.780 and i started to get like a a kind of a vibe for it i kind of quite enjoyed the he had a big audience

00:15:42.180 so it felt good to be able to kind of engage with academic literature in a public way so that kind of

00:15:48.760 drew me into starting my own youtube channel and doing my own podcasts and so on and at first it was

00:15:55.060 a very intellectual thing like a lot of my content was really um based around academic subjects uh with

00:16:02.900 an obvious political bent uh but then over time i just kind of got like sucked more and more into

00:16:08.020 like actual activism so that's kind of probably been my transformation is uh i kind of uh trying to

00:16:16.220 be like a racist intellectual commentator to just um trying to fuse that with uh walking the path of

00:16:23.540 the activist which is kind of where i am now and the big issue we're all dealing with is mass immigration

00:16:30.000 right that is the big thing now i want to find out how australia like what was their heart seller act

00:16:36.200 this is a question for both of you because america we can look at the heart seller act 1965 gates of

00:16:41.660 immigration just started opening the floodgates were wide open people started coming in now how did

00:16:47.120 australia in particular open the doors to mass immigration because i remember hearing stories where

00:16:52.440 they used to blow up invader boats and now you're welcoming them with open arms you mean through

00:16:58.780 legislation it wasn't really done through legislation here because the white australia policy

00:17:03.340 the white australia policy was largely implemented bureaucratically uh when australia was founded

00:17:10.020 in 1901 the uh founders wanted to put the white australia policy in our constitution

00:17:16.780 uh the british however did not approve of that because they were trying to build an alliance with the

00:17:22.720 japanese at the time they thought it would be offensive to them and potentially other

00:17:26.540 non-white international partners and so they said you can have your white australia policy but just

00:17:31.280 don't be so explicit about it so um the way that it was implemented yeah like there were immigration

00:17:37.760 and restriction uh powers given to the immigration bureaucracy but then they just filled the bureaucracy

00:17:43.860 with racists and so then there was literally people in the australian immigration bureaucracy in like

00:17:50.000 the 1930s who if someone wanted to immigrate here from europe they would send um you know a picture

00:17:55.840 of themselves and then analyze it like does this guy look jewish and if they look jewish they'd like

00:17:59.620 reject the application um that would have been the coolest job but uh yeah but they also had dictation

00:18:06.340 tests so basically if anyone came and the dictation test could be not just given in english but they could

00:18:11.040 just choose any language basically that they wanted to then like this list of languages so someone someone could be

00:18:17.000 non-white but could speak english and so they just make them sit the test in french knowing that they

00:18:21.100 couldn't speak french so they could just fail them so it was done in this indirect way then basically the

00:18:28.520 bureaucracy got um taken over by jews through the 1960s uh and uh basically like the jewish community

00:18:36.900 in australia subverted uh the institution uh got themselves in charge of it and at the same time

00:18:43.000 um you know political currents were changing this is the 1960s the rest of the world you know

00:18:48.700 britain the united states uh ripping up um well they're completely changing their immigration policies

00:18:57.400 obviously around this time and you know at the end of world war ii we were kind of stuck with the

00:19:03.080 americans we were in the british empire obviously the empire collapsed in world war ii because you know

00:19:07.740 we won that war against the germans that's why our empire collapsed and so we were kind of stuck

00:19:12.400 now with the americans as you know the british basically abandoned us in the region uh and the

00:19:18.580 americans stepped in and we fought the japanese together and so and then now the threat of

00:19:23.540 communism was directly in our region with obviously um china and various other asian states uh falling to

00:19:31.180 communism uh you know we were really involved in the korean war the vietnam war and so on and we were

00:19:36.260 all the way with the americans in the cold war and so we were like yes we have to maintain you know

00:19:41.160 like white power in uh you know the asia pacific region it's so good that we've got the americans

00:19:45.460 with us and the americans like whoa whoa whoa we're here to defend liberal democracy don't be saying

00:19:49.920 that white power stuff to like the australian diplomats in like the 1940s uh 1950s so we used to

00:19:56.440 have a you know a strong white nationalist country uh up until that point but we were kind of cucked by

00:20:01.320 international trends and internal weakness like we had a you know a liberal democratic system that was

00:20:07.080 became progressively more tolerant uh you know through phases after world war ii we started

00:20:12.100 accepting mediterranean and slavic immigrants where we didn't even really accept those prior to the

00:20:17.920 second world war we had a pretty much a nordicist immigration policy um and then you know a lot of

00:20:23.960 jews came in in fact american jewry funded uh ships where we were like well we'll open the we'll open

00:20:30.380 our uh our doors to italians to greeks these countries have been destroyed by the second world

00:20:36.840 war a lot of people want to immigrate and we realized in the second world war we only had like

00:20:40.680 four million people on this entire continent we faced an existential threat from the japanese empire

00:20:45.840 we need to basically the idea was populate or perish we need more people and we can't just

00:20:51.160 the idea was that basically the amount of immigrants we're getting from britain wasn't going to be enough

00:20:56.320 so they said we can bring in some italians and some greeks and so on some criminals i'm teasing but

00:21:02.220 then as as we open the door to the italians and the greeks then american uh jury starts basically

00:21:07.460 hijacking um the program and funding a bunch of jews from europe to then immigrate to australia

00:21:14.320 they get established in australia basically then american jury uh sets them up with a series of loans

00:21:21.160 they take over the property developer industry in australia uh they become embedded in a lot of

00:21:26.160 political institutions and the jewish community which wasn't really that powerful at all or didn't

00:21:30.900 really have any real significant influence prior to the second world war became way more influential

00:21:35.460 like the only reason australia developed asio which is basically our primary intelligence agency

00:21:42.100 was because a bunch of jews came from europe after the second world war um and then they immediately

00:21:48.640 infiltrated the government and started giving state secrets away to the soviet union and the americans

00:21:52.940 couldn't even trust us with uh you know basically secure information um and so we had to basically

00:21:59.820 reform our entire security state because prior to the second world war we had such a high trust society

00:22:04.160 it was so homogenous we didn't even need to have a formal intelligence agency we just didn't have any

00:22:09.060 fucking traders in the country so that was a um that was a big shift and then yeah from the 40s to

00:22:16.540 the late 60s you just see this gradual kind of erosion you know this kind of globalist culture gets

00:22:22.460 projected in the television is invented it's like the same story in every white country basically that's

00:22:27.220 the same model at that point right starts seeping in uh thomas anything you wanted to add yeah joel's

00:22:33.300 got a very good understanding very strong understanding of the history uh the only thing that i would add to

00:22:38.980 is all of the prime ministers at the time that threw us under the bus and sided with world jury they

00:22:45.820 the their uh their push politically to transform australia from a white nation into a multicultural

00:22:52.460 nation or multiracial nation uh came the the crucial years were between 1966 and 1975 so you hear this

00:23:00.340 everywhere this is the same crucial years as america the same crucial years as britain and in in that

00:23:06.380 period of time the jews had been in australia in significant numbers in enough numbers to properly

00:23:11.200 politically mobilize uh for at least 20 years and that gave them the time to start building these

00:23:18.020 uh lobby groups these ethnic lobby groups and they disguised all these lobby groups with all these

00:23:23.060 different names so they were called strange names like uh you know community affairs or lobby for

00:23:31.140 you know a future australia or you know they had all these like uh very uh almost meaningless names

00:23:37.780 but some of them were actually like organized lobbies for world jury or international jury or whatever

00:23:42.340 zionist federations and they had so many of these lobbies and they just put a front man like a rabbi in

00:23:48.760 charge of each one and then they put all this sort of like the jews are very good at just like mounting

00:23:53.700 paperwork uh you know on top of a politician you know they just love coming to court they don't need the

00:23:58.840 truth they don't need like the jewish legal system uh is like kind of the opposite of like a what is

00:24:05.200 it laconic or spadan kind of legal system it's it's not really about who's correct it's not about who's

00:24:10.480 right it's not about who's thorough and you know 10 words can can beat a thousand lies um they're more

00:24:17.580 about the thousand lies and so they just mounted all this paperwork on the government to say that all

00:24:23.120 these different communities would benefit if we didn't have um such strict uh immigration laws

00:24:30.560 and there was a test case maybe 10 years earlier where there was a an australian soldier i believe

00:24:36.600 that came back from the korean war with a korean war bride and it was national news it was like the

00:24:41.740 biggest travesty at the time it was like everyone was gossiping about it all the sort of low-end

00:24:47.140 news newspapers were all having a go at this guy basically for picking up an age like one asian war

00:24:52.860 bride was national news back in the 50s the girl it was like it was like a test case and i can't

00:24:58.180 remember the exact details i'm sure someone in the chat will know but uh the test case was i'm pretty

00:25:03.000 sure the the whole country wanted him deported to korea they were just like and i think there was a

00:25:08.260 quote from one of the most senior politicians of the day that says something like two wongs don't make a

00:25:12.440 white there's just all this like hilarious like memeology like racist banter is just at the core

00:25:18.660 of australian spiritual and political discourse and uh anyway they the real power that the jews had

00:25:26.520 wasn't in these fake lobbies that was just all this mounting pressure is just so that the traitor in

00:25:32.120 government when he's explaining to all the people that aren't necessarily on board with his treason

00:25:36.900 he can say oh but look at all this you know expert witness and expert advice and all these

00:25:42.120 lobbies and they've got this kind of like intellectual and and legal backing behind them

00:25:47.660 but really what what caused the shift was all of these prime ministers during this time period and

00:25:52.940 after are all multi multi-millionaires if they're still alive i mean we're talking in the hundreds of

00:25:57.140 millions of dollars and and they own property they own property so the jews took control of the property

00:26:02.640 um development and they let in these prime ministers on their their boards as directors uh when these prime

00:26:10.720 ministers left uh office they became property developers and most of them became real estate

00:26:15.940 agents to china most of them uh would travel over regularly to china and they basically became

00:26:22.180 prostitutes prostitutes of the property market so they got paid more than 30 pieces of silver uh they

00:26:28.400 got paid in the hundreds of millions of dollars to change the these legislations in the 60s and 70s to

00:26:33.340 destroy our nation so that's all i love and now australia is full of chinese i remember even when i was

00:26:39.540 there in 2008 i would say that was the largest demographic that i saw like oh wow there's lots

00:26:44.400 of chinese people in australia i didn't expect that uh no what is the situation like today because i saw

00:26:50.780 this clip that was going around on x you know melbourne 2024 we can cue that up plate uh what does it look

00:26:57.480 like when you walk around australia now demographics wise i mean are there areas where white people are a

00:27:03.620 minority now now now there's yellow flight to get away from all the indians and blacks so

00:27:09.640 yeah because it's not a kumbaya fest with white people out of the picture either yeah yeah but

00:27:18.220 that's that's the scale now like it may just like when you sydney and melbourne are our two largest

00:27:23.260 cities about half the population of australia live in either sydney or melbourne and both of those

00:27:30.160 cities i would say a majority non-white sydney definitely melbourne may be 50 50 at best

00:27:36.100 jeez i mean this is this has happened fast too i mean quick yeah when i was when i was a kid the

00:27:42.800 country was well over 90 percent white um and i remember areas where i where i lived and grew up in

00:27:49.240 and i remember you know my first memories is like six seven eight years old and just like i would see

00:27:55.980 one asian and it would be like kind of strange and now you go to the same area and there isn't

00:28:00.880 one white person there you know like just total total transformation at a very rapid speed um you

00:28:07.740 know the last 10 to 20 years in particular the accelerator pedal is just a brick has been thrown

00:28:12.940 on it like when when the white australia policy was you know first deconstructed in the 70s

00:28:18.020 oh we fought this war against the vietnamese and we probably shouldn't have done that we brutalized

00:28:24.160 them you know all of the anti-vietnam war propaganda was quite strong at the time uh so we should take

00:28:30.120 some refugees from vietnam because you know you know we we kind of we displaced them with our

00:28:36.220 imperialism or whatever and so that was they brought them in and then they started opening to the chinese

00:28:41.380 and i mean obviously i'm no fan of uh yellow immigration but the yellow races uh you know maybe

00:28:48.800 a little bit more agreeable than some of the other ones i think if they opened the gates and said hey

00:28:53.100 let's take a bunch of immigrants from nigeria i don't think that people would have been as uh

00:28:57.720 permissive right so they they started bringing them in first and then and when you get to the 90s then

00:29:03.520 maybe some middle easterners start coming in and then um yeah the uh that created a reaction the

00:29:10.860 anti-islam reaction and now lately it's like i'm not going to say majority indian but it's definitely

00:29:16.940 the largest demographic like statistically indians are the largest non-white demographic in australia

00:29:22.440 they're the fastest growing demographic in australia hundreds and hundreds of thousands of them

00:29:26.940 come in every year our prime minister prostitutes himself to the indian government every time he

00:29:32.920 meets with the indian prime minister he has to sign a new agreement that makes it even easier for indians

00:29:37.860 to immigrate here um and uh yeah they're just basically flooding the country um in a in in such a

00:29:46.500 rapid way that now are they telling you guys just like in america and everywhere also you need to

00:29:51.000 celebrate becoming a minority you stole the land from the aboriginals you know we get that all the

00:29:55.480 time you don't own the land you stole it uh you know racism colonialism slavery therefore you know

00:30:01.480 we get to flood you with the entire third world and you have to celebrate it and it's so wonderful to

00:30:05.440 become a minority are you guys are getting the the same kind of arguments thrown at you right yeah

00:30:10.620 more or less but also they don't even have that argument a lot of the time they just talk about how

00:30:15.400 great it is for the economy yeah basically now all the media reports are actually this is really

00:30:20.200 bad it's causing a housing crisis um we're taking too many immigrants um isn't that a isn't that kind

00:30:27.580 of a shame maybe we should uh and then we have like a fake debate about how should we reduce

00:30:32.040 immigration by 20 or 30 you know and it's just all framed in like economic like language to make it

00:30:39.400 as boring as possible and so like the question of identity isn't even raised in the positive or the

00:30:44.640 negative um that's basically the strategy of mainstream politics because they know that

00:30:51.620 immigration is wildly unpopular so they don't actually want the debate to go where we want the

00:30:56.120 debate to go because as soon as it goes there it gets polarized inflammatory in a way that makes their

00:31:01.860 position untenable so generally that's how australian politics functions they try to make australian

00:31:07.080 politics as boring non-ideological uh pragmatic and economistic as possible so that uh they can try

00:31:14.760 and get the population to check out and not pay attention and not identify with any particular side

00:31:19.820 of of any issue and just keep uh you know basically narrow-mindedly focusing on entertainment and their

00:31:27.160 personal lives australia is one of the most apolitical societies uh probably in the world you know that's a

00:31:32.880 real big contrast between us and i think the united states like in america whether you're

00:31:37.020 a democrat or a republican this is like really socially important in australia most people don't

00:31:41.920 even discuss politics uh insofar as they do they don't really have very robust political identities

00:31:47.680 um you know they don't have like there isn't very strong party loyalty in the average person or

00:31:52.500 anything like that or ideological identity um so that's more of the strategy i think yeah like

00:31:59.480 obviously leftists say that you know yeah we we stole the land off the aboriginals what right do we have

00:32:04.660 uh and there's often like historical revisionism where they pretend like as if because it is true

00:32:11.360 that in the 19th century there were non-white immigration there was non-white immigration into

00:32:15.760 australia we wasn't actually australia yet it was still a series of uh british colonies um but that's

00:32:23.360 the whole reason actually why australia was created because basically that caused white nationalism to grow

00:32:29.420 in australia and the white nationalist movement basically demanded that australia be formed uh

00:32:36.400 demanded this from the crown so that we could basically deport all the non-whites and keep them

00:32:41.220 out of the country and the first thing that the australian government ever did once it was formed

00:32:45.580 was literally pass the white australia policy literally pass immigration restriction act and

00:32:51.060 start and they basically mass deported the non-whites that were here uh almost entirely as like the

00:32:56.680 first act of the australian government so they don't actually they don't ever mention any of that

00:33:01.860 um but to say oh there's always been chinese people here and there's always been non-whites here and

00:33:06.740 they've always contributed to the country and uh don't they they work so hard and and and you know

00:33:12.060 that's typical kind of everything is reduced to economics now you you were saying that you know

00:33:17.520 your average person there doesn't really talk about politics i remember that too when i was there

00:33:21.340 although i wasn't very political um yeah maybe they don't get involved in political discussion

00:33:26.420 until uh let's say you're a white nationalist right then it becomes an issue i mean what are the views

00:33:33.760 on you know white supremacy with your average australian i would say the discourse has changed massively

00:33:39.740 in the last five years and as joel mentioned earlier we have had such a surge in indians uh in the last

00:33:46.100 five years and i think this is uh strategic from the australian government and i think it's also why

00:33:52.520 the canadian government is doing it as well uh there there is potentially war with china on the cards

00:33:57.520 and we have a fifth column of somewhere between you know one and three million chinese people in this

00:34:05.620 country depending on whether you count citizens permanent residents students or all the various different

00:34:10.900 types of visas where they can teach yoga or paint nails or something um as a skilled worker of

00:34:16.060 course and so the government is really trying to they've realized they're unbalanced when canada

00:34:23.380 and australia talk about where the most successful uh you know multicultural societies what they're

00:34:28.040 talking about is is they're gloating they're saying we have most successfully worked out how to balance

00:34:32.860 all the fifth columns so no one fifth column stands out so we've got a series of fifth columns

00:34:38.860 so many of them that we can keep the table up it doesn't just displace the table so what they're

00:34:46.400 doing is they're pumping the country full of indians to try to uh you know re-stabilize their fifth

00:34:52.820 columns so that china doesn't have this they need at least as many indian security guards to lock as

00:34:58.240 many chinese people in the camps as they can if we did actually go to war um and to negate their

00:35:02.960 influence but at the same time they are flooding the country with a lot of arabs they are flooding the

00:35:06.420 country with way more africans than there's ever been and that's another factor we never had

00:35:10.420 africans we had when i was in high school i only knew of one african family in 10 grid squares and

00:35:18.360 they were the child of some african warlord where we gave some african country 20 million dollars and

00:35:23.360 the guy just like took all the money and then fled to australia um and and that was the only african

00:35:29.340 in the entire eastern suburbs that i grew up in obviously some of the other areas had been hit by

00:35:34.680 africans the bioweapon a little earlier maybe five years earlier but there were no africans

00:35:39.460 in australia there it was like not even 0.001 percent of the population and now they're starting

00:35:45.700 to get i think over over 0.5 percent of the population and obviously you know this sounds

00:35:50.580 really small but they breed at a very high rate and certain suburbs they've completely taken over so

00:35:55.900 what white people are seeing in my opinion is they've seen a relatively successful multiculturalism

00:36:02.580 and i don't like to use that that term that's their term but what they've seen is a multiculturalism

00:36:06.760 where it's sort of kumbaya it's kind of kumbaya it's kind of all worked out we've just got you know

00:36:13.300 the boomers will say but how good's the food and now our generation specifically can't get a rental as

00:36:18.960 you put up they that the mortgages are through the roof um because the demand on housing is so high

00:36:24.940 uh people suburbs have been completely either chinese-ified if you grew up in a kind of upper

00:36:30.800 class area or they've been indian-ified if you're in a kind of lower middle class area or they've

00:36:35.860 been africanized if you're in a really lower class working class area so there's every demo or in uh

00:36:41.980 in in uh some instances it's been sort of like arabs can kind of blend through the three

00:36:46.800 yeah pacific island as well if you're in a poor area so every uh white person in australia

00:36:53.120 australia has experienced the negatives of diversity by one or multiple ethnic groups

00:36:58.600 um and they've watched these fifth columns take over suburbs so especially in the last five years

00:37:06.100 it's been so rapid it's it's been so rapid i think up until a couple years ago the majority

00:37:11.760 of our immigrants even though we were immigrating a lot of chinese the majority of our immigration

00:37:15.720 was still uh european um we were still getting like about 40 percent from england alone i think

00:37:22.020 like 10 15 percent from new zealand which again was mostly white flight people running away from

00:37:26.180 the sort of high taxation and maori love that new zealand's obsessed with like my family and um

00:37:31.820 yeah so it was still majority white now it's not majority white and like the area that i live in

00:37:37.820 the east outer eastern suburbs of melbourne when i just moved here about three or four years ago

00:37:41.700 oh actually it was before prisons probably four years ago um it was probably 10 indian and now

00:37:47.040 it's probably like 50 or 60 indian and it's just rapid and also there's been a completely complete

00:37:52.720 different change in the type of indian as well so when we grew up uh i lived in a multicultural area

00:37:59.520 went to a multicultural school and there were people in my friendship group that were chinese or

00:38:03.860 shrankin or indian and their fathers were all highly educated they were very anglicized they spoke

00:38:09.840 very properly with a very proper so english or american accent they went to international schools

00:38:15.460 um they were kind of the upper class of china korea india sri lanka um they were almost always

00:38:21.500 christians as well so that almost all of them actually got their visas through the church so

00:38:26.740 that's something that's not mentioned much but i mentioned it because i'm allowed to be critical

00:38:30.100 but they uh that was the kind of indians and chinese that we were getting we weren't getting

00:38:36.840 these kind of really low caste uh fake educated like they've got the piece of paper saying they're an

00:38:43.260 engineer but it's obviously a fraud piece of paper um they're very low iq they don't speak english most

00:38:48.940 of them and if they do it's very poorly um and so people are no longer getting uh they're no longer

00:38:55.720 interacting with a chinese person or an indian person that is putting on the white flesh you know

00:39:01.080 these chinese and indians that moved here 20 years ago they were they they were had the white flesh on

00:39:06.960 they were skinwalkers so they can kind of make it work kind of be successful in a way yeah they could

00:39:12.720 walk and talk and act and i remember going i had a sri lankan friend in primary school and i would go

00:39:17.860 to his house and his father was a banker and actually worked with one of my family friends who was also a

00:39:21.800 banker like a branch branch banker and um like your local banker not like fucking some big jew and uh

00:39:28.780 you know what i mean like you're anyway not a teller but like you know a branch manager anyway

00:39:32.720 so uh and he would talk with this proper english accent and you know uh you know you talk about

00:39:39.360 all the things that we did in school and it was like a skinwalker it was like the sri lankan guy

00:39:43.660 just acting and walking and talking exactly like us and it was it was fascinating but now it's just

00:39:49.660 everywhere you go everywhere you go now it's just like you're surrounded by thousands of indians

00:39:56.700 and they're all speaking punjabi or hindi or whatever and they're all on the phone constantly so

00:40:02.540 you go into a 7-eleven and then you're like yeah pump six and then the guy you know you go into a

00:40:07.540 as you go into a gas station you go into servo and the the the guy's like you go up to the indian

00:40:14.380 you're like yeah pump six and the guy's like

00:40:15.800 and then he's like sorry what sorry what and you're like and you're like pump pump six and he's like

00:40:25.860 god that's annoying day in day out 89 89 dollars

00:40:31.860 and you're like what the it's almost like they tricked you guys like okay we'll have

00:40:38.020 the best of these races come in and show you how awesome multiculturalism and diversity can be

00:40:43.840 and then eventually we'll just let in you know the the scum of the world right and flood you until

00:40:50.220 you're a minority yeah yes but that's not also an argument saying oh we want merit-based mass

00:40:56.680 immigration population replacement either great argument against it actually it shows uh the

00:41:02.540 pitfalls i'd much rather have the terrible immigrants so that people become more racist and realize

00:41:08.520 what we're dealing with here yeah so let's talk about activist persecution in australia i mean

00:41:14.100 how bad is it i saw elijah schaefer put up this uh tweet getting into a little bit about what's

00:41:20.920 happening there and it's like america you know we've been debanked we've been banned from all kinds

00:41:25.520 of platforms written about by you know all the journalists and called all kinds of things but

00:41:30.440 this is happening in australia too debanked you're getting banned federal police is calling was it gyms

00:41:36.240 and pressuring to cancel your memberships even uh stopping by you know houses for like basically

00:41:42.380 wellness checks right so how bad is how bad is it i know they were doing some of this stuff during

00:41:48.420 covid too is insane but now they're really you know focusing on nationalists again right have you seen

00:41:53.560 this list thomas you're reading yeah we we uh gave him this list i'll let joel answer this one to start

00:42:01.100 with because i'm not sure exactly how much we can say on okay on the schaefer question because we did an

00:42:07.820 interview with schaefer i'm sure joel can start off and then yeah well yeah well i mean as for the

00:42:13.880 persecution of nationalist activists in australia it's not as bad as in britain i would say the uk

00:42:22.380 probably is the worst country in the world for persecuting white nationalists other than i guess

00:42:27.040 maybe the russian federation um and germany yeah yeah russia and germany would be the two worst yeah

00:42:34.460 yeah but like the the germans have kind of adapted uh because they've been under occupation for so

00:42:40.080 long so they have a they've adapted more to that environment where like i think uh in britain

00:42:45.520 people thought that we had rights uh and then they tried to exercise their rights and you know people

00:42:50.240 like sam milia are now in jail and they're banned from even like seeing pictures of their own uh you

00:42:55.580 know children babies because uh because they made stickers that um that were too nationalistic or

00:43:00.880 something so obviously we're not at that level yet um but in australia the uh you know basically like

00:43:09.280 the state has admitted like the security services had have admitted that between about a half and a

00:43:16.100 third of their resources go on uh white nationalism jeez and uh and the rest goes on i guess like islamic

00:43:24.820 terrorism and maybe like chinese subversion or something uh anyway so yeah they've got however

00:43:32.860 many thousands of agents um listening to every single one of tom and i's phone calls and uh and so on i

00:43:40.060 guess i don't know what they do we're law-abiding citizens so they probably they have to waste a lot

00:43:45.500 of their time uh surveilling us and realizing that we're law-abiding citizens but basically yeah any any uh

00:43:53.420 little thing that they can do uh to drag one of our guys before the courts on some ridiculous charge

00:44:01.280 uh we've seen a lot of that lately um tom is getting harassed by police who are trying to

00:44:07.240 uh right now actually trying to put charges on him for leading a peaceful political rally uh down a street

00:44:15.020 no no violent altercations occurred no one got hurt uh no projectiles were thrown literally just

00:44:22.600 marched down a street chanting marched back went home uh apparently this is uh they're investigating

00:44:28.940 him for the crime of quote grossly offensive behavior so apparently there's a law now in the

00:44:34.020 state of victoria that grossly offensive behavior is a crime whatever that means so apparently if uh

00:44:40.860 you're in public and you and you have a political slogan that offends somebody

00:44:46.460 um that's a crime uh but it's not a crime if you're a gay mardi gras and you're dancing naked

00:44:53.140 in front of like children that's right i might find that grossly offensive but i'm a nazi so therefore

00:44:58.440 doesn't count for some reason so yeah it is it is pretty crazy like the uh uh the level of um absurdity

00:45:06.760 that they're taking things uh we have other associates who are also being dragged before the

00:45:11.700 courts for quote unquote grossly offensive behavior i think uh in their instance uh what happened was

00:45:17.440 they had uh t-shirts on the t-shirt was a chud jack uh if people don't know what a chud jack is i guess

00:45:23.460 google it and it said uh six million that's a bit much mate underneath the chud jack and they were

00:45:28.840 throwing roman salutes now roman salutes are now illegal in australia uh you can go to jail

00:45:33.860 for doing a roman salute in public um that was laws that the jews really pushed for in response to

00:45:40.600 us basically um because uh previously uh tom in particular was a very big fan of the roman salute

00:45:47.920 now we can't do it but uh but unfortunately um tom do you do them at home when you make coffee in

00:45:53.620 the morning are you doing salutes in the morning i i know that jacob person does them at home all the

00:46:00.100 time uh i've kind of got my technique down pat come on we gotta have fun with this my god can't even

00:46:05.880 have it it is fun now i i thought yeah it's spiritual um the reason why i was saying before

00:46:10.400 i'm not sure how deep we can go into this subject was uh very recently uh joel and i did a did

00:46:16.200 interviews with elijah shaffer and i think that's what stimulated him to make that post about police

00:46:20.760 persecution yes not just because of what happened to mickle nelson but also uh the largest chunk of

00:46:27.260 the interview that i did with him was uh on police persecution um so i don't want to double up the

00:46:32.700 subject too much because that will will be released in the future but i wasn't sure if we could talk

00:46:36.600 about it yet because elijah was trying to get out of australia without being hassled by asio because

00:46:41.000 just talking to me uh in this country can cause you some issues and the police do that on purpose they

00:46:46.200 can see that what we're doing is working that our meta-political strategy is effective and we are

00:46:51.740 changing public discourse through inspiration through passion through courage um and just being able to go

00:46:59.680 against the grain to go against the flow of this communist subversion uh and to just be a symbol

00:47:05.360 of standing up to that and not bowing down to that and as you're putting these photos up these young

00:47:10.280 guys here are in our organization and he just had his bank account banned too right the guy on the left

00:47:15.720 yeah yeah yeah yes he did the guy on the left yeah and uh those two young guys um they came to me uh

00:47:22.040 they've been involved for over two years now and about 12 months of them being involved in the

00:47:26.800 organization they actually came to me and one of them tried to fly somewhere or he tried to go

00:47:30.780 somewhere i can't remember what what the exact circumstance was but he was told by someone

00:47:35.540 within the bureaucracy of the government that he he was a national security threat that he was defined

00:47:41.060 as an oh one of his brothers is in the army one of them their brother is in the army and their brother

00:47:46.280 had to basically disassociate from them because they're a national security threat and these were

00:47:50.460 just guys that were coming down to the park and we were just training we were doing push-ups at the

00:47:54.140 park we're going for a run that's right didn't you have like a boxing fitness club too and they were

00:47:58.920 worried about it because they're okay because you could start a military with that right guys white

00:48:04.120 guys working out and being able to defend themselves i mean they're freaking out about the

00:48:08.360 catching about that we would never try they're freaking they're freaking out for many reasons but

00:48:14.060 uh to to clarify the um that list of schaefer's things that that list is basically all the things

00:48:19.060 that i covered in that interview so um uh yeah that uh it i think it's very important for people

00:48:26.320 to realize that uh strength creates strength strength in others and when uh there's a symbol of a man

00:48:35.280 it's not even the man himself but when a symbol of a man stands up and that's why the roman salute was

00:48:41.820 so significant and that's why i love the roman salute so much because uh every time i went to court and

00:48:46.860 they were trying to make me out like i was evil and horrible because i defended myself or defended

00:48:51.220 those that i cared about uh they always try to make it out like i was um a shameful horrible character

00:48:57.940 and they would always take photos of me uh when i was walking out of the court or they would wait for

00:49:03.360 me to start talking and then they would get like manage to get a screen grab they would even use photos

00:49:08.900 that they took they would use screen grabs from the videos of me like mid-sentence going like

00:49:13.040 classic yeah you know like they're just the most disgusting they want to make you look bad that's

00:49:18.940 their job the most kind of disgusting form of like journalism uh yeah i love that image that's a great

00:49:24.100 painting and then i realized like you can't just be reasonable and rational with these people you can

00:49:29.660 sit there and have the most articulate and intellectual and polite conversation about why you believe what

00:49:35.540 you believe and they'll just screen grab your face in a contorted manner put that up and then put

00:49:41.680 this like doom and gloom caption over who you are and i was just like fuck it it's mask off every

00:49:48.180 time i go to court i'm just throwing a roman i'm just gonna stand there and then and they'll take a

00:49:52.720 photo of that and i worked out that that will be what the photo they'll use they'll use that because

00:49:57.480 that's so horrible from their perspective but what it what i believe that it did to the discourse

00:50:03.520 was so many people are afraid of journalists they're afraid of the confrontation they're afraid of

00:50:09.840 being shamed and i see the media and it's smear campaign it similar to you're you're in a village

00:50:19.480 i like to condense everything down to 100 people and think of like a village mindset and understand

00:50:23.960 what dynamic is going on in that tribe or that village and how is that affecting the village and

00:50:30.060 then can you expand that philosophy or that that uh microcosm into the macrocosm of 100 million people

00:50:37.040 or a billion people and i saw this smear campaign this doxing from journalists and and online antifa

00:50:44.400 and stuff as just they want to parade you through the town and throw rotten vegetables at you

00:50:48.460 and if you kind of cower and hide your face no you don't want to do that you know if you do stuff like

00:50:54.060 that then then you deserve the tomatoes you deserve the rotten tomatoes and the public like yeah look at

00:51:00.020 this coward look at the shameful character let's throw the cabbages at his head and oh that hurt him that

00:51:05.340 affected him but if you just stand there and throw a roman salute they can throw as many tomatoes as

00:51:10.780 they want eventually gonna stop throwing tomatoes even like these tomatoes aren't working this guy

00:51:14.620 you can't shame this guy no matter how much you you throw your crap at him it's just like you're just

00:51:20.320 a crap thrower you're just a crap thrower and and all these doxes and antifas and stuff when we just say

00:51:25.680 yes okay yes i'm a nazi yes i'm a supremacist yes i'm a whatever it is you think i'm sure yes absolutely

00:51:32.000 and you just stand there and you're fit and healthy and you're you throw the roman it's just

00:51:38.240 it just emanates it's a spiritual war and that's why the jews had to ban it the jews saw my strategy

00:51:44.280 like in spot like all these young kids started throwing i was after i was taking photos after i

00:51:50.320 had the photo taken of the roman salute like that and after we had a few rallies and we're throwing the

00:51:54.460 roman salute at the rally i would just drive past uh you know on my way home from work and there

00:52:00.220 would be like year 12 kids in their blazes at the bus stop waiting for a bus and i'll be at the

00:52:04.800 lights and i'd just throw a roman at them to see what they would do i would just throw a roman at

00:52:08.680 them because it wasn't illegal at that point so i would just be like that's just a social experiment

00:52:12.400 i'd throw a roman at them just healthy white footy boys you know footy boys in their school uniforms

00:52:17.360 and and sometimes girls as well with them and i would throw a roman and they would almost always

00:52:21.480 throw it back and the girls would all giggle and i'm just thinking of the psychology because it's fun

00:52:25.200 because you're not supposed to do it right exactly come on it's exactly it's the cookie jar syndrome

00:52:30.340 yeah and i would drive off at the lights i would drive off and i look in the rearview mirror and

00:52:34.880 there'd just be 18 year olds just throwing romans back and i was like this is this is winning this is

00:52:40.360 what winning feels like this is a a cultural revolution this is they've demonized us so much

00:52:45.540 but young kids they're just like what's wrong with it why can't i do it it it feels good it feels

00:52:49.980 powerful to do it you know we're not getting in our hands and knees and praying we're standing

00:52:55.040 upright and throwing it and it's just so powerful and so now on the news in australia they blur out

00:53:01.160 the arms like as if like it's uh like genitals or something so like so now you see all these

00:53:08.040 blurred arms like they'll yeah this picture they'll put it up on the news and they'll blur every single

00:53:13.580 oh my god we all know what it is i mean come on yeah i know it's it's it's crazy like as if there's

00:53:18.220 going to be jews at home if they see those arms they're going to be like oh god like and we have

00:53:23.220 to protect them from that horrible experience and like blur it out it's insane so now it's 12 months

00:53:29.080 in jail 12 months holy crap yeah and 20 000 fine i mean migrant rapists don't even get that

00:53:36.300 you know yeah well exactly well when i was at court last there was an african that had raped uh

00:53:41.900 sexually seriously sexually assaulted five women uh while on bail and he had uh run through people's

00:53:47.740 homes with machetes and he was sentenced to 12 months and he was released early at six months

00:53:52.280 and that was i mean this happens every day and he wasn't on the news but i was on the news yeah and

00:53:57.840 didn't you get into some confrontation with a guy who happened to be black and then what was it you

00:54:01.540 got six months of jail time and like a hardcore prison is that correct that's that's close to

00:54:07.940 correct okay there was two there was two incidences within a period of about a month of each other

00:54:12.240 and one of them was uh channel nine which is like the main oh yes it's kind of like yeah they put up

00:54:20.120 a video uh they put up a current affair so which is kind of like a a real crappy version of 60 minutes

00:54:25.840 and they also run 60 minutes here in australia so whatever the channel is in america that runs 60

00:54:31.080 minutes channel nine is the equivalent of that channel and they ran a segment basically saying

00:54:35.180 that we were terrorists next door because we were training and because we were hiking and we were

00:54:40.020 basically like the white taliban and we were about to commit a terror attack so i went down to channel

00:54:44.140 nine to just confront them and say this is like interview me have a conversation and i'll tell

00:54:49.220 the australian public what we're doing and why we're doing there's the blur there's the blur yeah

00:54:52.700 yeah yeah and so instead of doing that they um they they just ignored me they just said no we're not

00:55:00.040 interested in talking to you go away and so i started making a speech uh at the front and then they

00:55:04.660 moved us on so we walked outside and i started making a speech out uh at the front of the building

00:55:08.900 in the public and then the security guard the african security guard who was looking for a fight

00:55:12.680 he was very very jarred up very jacked up and uh because he could hear what i was talking about and

00:55:18.580 so when these people are confronted by this they become immediately aggressive you know how africans

00:55:22.520 are you guys live in america yes and uh so and then uh he moved us on again so we complied and moved

00:55:30.580 on again and as we're moving to this like arbitrary line the drano line is what it's called the

00:55:35.320 drano line wherever the drano line is we're moving to the drano line which is like you know 30 or 40

00:55:40.280 meters away from the building uh the african starts dancing kind of like the george floyd dance have

00:55:45.520 you seen the video of george floyd with the banana before he got killed yes yes i died of a drug i did

00:55:51.260 where he's like that was like he's like in the supermarket and he's like doing this monkey dance

00:55:55.820 yeah he really is banana well well it's like cosmic and spiritual because this guy started doing the

00:56:00.320 same dance it was like he was cosmically attuned with the george floyd and so he started doing the

00:56:05.420 monkey dance um in front of jacob and jacob being the shit stirrer that he is said all right dance

00:56:10.180 monkey which is a famous song by uh by a chick called tones and i she's like a fat dyke but anyway uh that

00:56:17.700 that was like one of those popular songs of that month i think it was like dance for me dance for me

00:56:22.440 dance for me and that was playing like constantly it was like just cosmic it was just in the it was in

00:56:27.540 the ether you see and this guy starts doing the george floyd monkey dance and then it's like dance

00:56:32.420 for me dance for me and then jacob just said yeah all right dance for me like dance monkey and then

00:56:36.700 he he got all aggressive and he was like i'm not sure dance monkey and then he throat punched jacob

00:56:41.520 just full just left hand stretched out throat punched him and i'm i'm standing like maybe two

00:56:46.780 meters away and you can see the cctv footage i don't know if you've got a copy of it um but you'll you

00:56:51.140 might want to play it for you for your your guys but for me it's gonna have the negro get bashed for

00:56:56.680 everyone to see it's good it's good viewing it is good viewing it's very good because i copped a lot

00:57:01.720 of flack from it from the kind of softer types um that are like oh my god tom is a maniac tom is he's

00:57:08.040 a barbarian tom he's not fit for leadership because look at how he reacted and look at how he behaved in

00:57:14.180 this instance and it's like yeah yeah i'm a defender of the folk i'm i'm a fighter i'm a defender

00:57:21.260 like people like i'm polite i'm respectful i'm peaceful i'm lawful but if you put your hands on us

00:57:28.100 if you put your hands on me if you put your hands on people that i care about i'm putting you down

00:57:32.660 i'm gonna put you down or i'm gonna die it's it's just one or the other i'm gonna assert dominance

00:57:38.780 i'm gonna be over the top of you or i'm gonna die in the process but there's no in between for me

00:57:43.340 it's zero or a hundred i'll be polite i'll be respectful i'll be lawful but this is how i feel about

00:57:49.760 the government they're trying to they're trying to hurt us they're terrorizing us they're attacking

00:57:54.080 us they're allowing us to be firebombed they're they're hurting us so it's like i'm gonna take

00:57:58.660 down the government you know absolutely not the government's working to destroy us they want to

00:58:03.240 silence that's that's another story that we should probably mention by the way with uh another

00:58:07.880 associate of ours his name is tim lutz he uh he actually ran a boxing gym and had us all training

00:58:15.840 there until they basically took his boxing gym away from him uh for his association with us but

00:58:21.940 anyway um he had been harassed by antifa many times due to his well he's part of the organization he's

00:58:28.180 one of the leaders of the organization um and anyway uh the end of last year um he wakes up to an

00:58:37.740 explosion uh him in bed next to his pregnant wife goes outside and basically his car had been blown

00:58:45.760 up in the driveway uh by communist terrorists uh naturally yeah thankfully they they didn't they

00:58:54.880 were trying to blow up the other car i believe as well and basically like the molotov cocktail didn't

00:59:00.240 function correctly um it could have been far worse they could have potentially set fire to the house with

00:59:04.980 his children and his pregnant wife let me guess there was no terrorist investigation police didn't

00:59:09.600 there was absolutely no investigation whatsoever for an act of terror but apparently we're terrorists

00:59:14.400 and 50 of the anti-terrorism police's budget uh has to go on um surveilling us uh but then when actual

00:59:21.880 terrorists attack us somehow they don't have any resources to investigate that well that's that's

00:59:27.900 their whole plan in this anti-white establishment yeah we have zero protections yeah here's this the

00:59:33.620 video right of thomas there so you you went to jail thomas for was it for this so what they did was

00:59:41.160 they they raided our house uh they stole all our electronics they uh and they bailed me because i have

00:59:49.020 no criminal history and because uh the the way the australian bail laws work is uh if you have no if you

00:59:58.620 have uh very little or no criminal history and it's a first offense you're basically guaranteed bail

01:00:03.620 unless it's like a murder or a terror attack you're basically guaranteed bail so i got bailed for that

01:00:09.540 and then about a month later while i was on bail we were out in the bush we were doing one of our hikes

01:00:15.280 we do hikes almost every month at least every second month and we're on a hike and we were ambushed by

01:00:20.840 there was a conspiracy by channel nine so the same people that were calling us terrorists

01:00:25.060 had actually uh paid a private contractor to uh infiltrate our group to pretend to be a racist

01:00:31.280 well he didn't have to pretend he was a racist he was like kind of old truckie guy and he actually

01:00:34.680 worked as a trucker so we did vet this guy there was really not much we could do about someone at

01:00:38.120 this level of professionality we we ticked every box that we could um and he was exactly who we said

01:00:43.860 he was but what we didn't know was on the side he actually worked as a subcontractor and was hired

01:00:48.640 by channel nine to disrupt our our group and uh he was organizing with antifa and with asio so he was

01:00:55.460 meeting with journalists he was meeting with antifa and he was meeting with asio to disrupt our

01:00:59.960 organization and they uh they had asio uh in the bushes waiting for us they had counterterrorism follow

01:01:07.000 us up there there was a whole bunch of antifa that knew we were at that uh where we parked our cars

01:01:12.260 and they have a habit of attacking our cars about two weeks earlier they damaged jacob's car my car at our

01:01:16.900 address so obviously they got that from this informant he had passed on that information

01:01:21.240 as to where our address was and where our cars were so that they could continue their their pressure on

01:01:25.700 us and um and then uh there was an incident in this park uh these people followed us they were

01:01:32.820 filming us when someone confronted them and asked them to just leave us alone they then uh got in their

01:01:38.240 vehicle and actually ran over some of these young guys and then uh a whole discourse erupted after they

01:01:43.660 ran over a bunch of guys and crashed into a rock and they almost killed me or potentially put me in

01:01:48.560 like a wheelchair because i almost got crushed between the car and the rock i only just managed to

01:01:52.380 jump out of the way and um so this is like i was looking at this and i was like this is like an inverse

01:01:57.500 version of um of uh who's the guy uh charlottesville the guy doing like 190 years for like trying to get

01:02:06.740 his car out of there when he got mobbed by like 50 people it's kind of like an opposite version of that

01:02:11.100 where the roles are half reversed um and anyway that's what these people did to us my car was

01:02:18.240 damaged in the process so obviously things were going on there the address that we were at the

01:02:22.700 exact car park was leaked online so all the antifa organizers were posting online and in the in the

01:02:28.040 comments section of these these leaks or not leaks but these posts were just all these antifa

01:02:33.180 activists saying oh you're gonna be ashamed if someone went down there and firebomb these cars or

01:02:36.660 slash your tires we had our tires slashed and our uh i had a i had a like a impact driver like a drill

01:02:43.840 put through my tire which is a common tactic of theirs we have them on cctv doing that anyway um that

01:02:49.820 all happened and in that process uh we a couple of us were pretty badly injured and uh about two days

01:02:56.740 later we got back to the house and we just said that was fucking out of control um you know this

01:03:00.920 obviously escalating what the system's doing to us we had a big meeting about it and um anyway about two

01:03:06.600 days later they sent the helicopter the swat team the bear cat they sent like the uh the you know the

01:03:12.800 big armored vehicles and came in and kicked our doors in and and you know pointed the machine guns

01:03:17.400 at our families as you do and then they held me without bail uh for seven months so they the reason

01:03:25.380 why they said that i couldn't get bail even though i had been convicted of no crimes uh was that they said

01:03:32.100 i was making threats to the victims over the prison phones and they never played that the recordings in

01:03:40.780 court and it was a lie the counterterrorism police are a political police and they lied to the courts

01:03:46.120 openly lied to the courts um to say that i was doing that they never provided the evidence that i was doing

01:03:51.900 that and what i was doing over the phone was the guys back at the hq were calling me so i was calling

01:03:57.840 them and they were saying that we've found these their social media of the antifa guys that were at

01:04:02.940 the park and they're all friends with these other main culprit people and they're friends on facebook

01:04:08.400 with the people that firebomb the informants car because they damaged the informants car and trailer

01:04:13.320 about a week earlier and we had that on cctv we hadn't gone to the police because we didn't operate

01:04:18.240 like that but we were we were building an information picture on these people who they were you know what

01:04:22.640 schools they went to what universities they went to and their associates and their friends so we're

01:04:26.480 building an information picture on these people and i was just saying over the phone i said okay

01:04:30.160 like screenshot everything and send it to my lawyer screenshot everything send to my lawyer because

01:04:34.600 we'll expose all of this in court and they said that that was threatening witnesses to screenshot

01:04:40.240 the people that had firebombed our vehicles to screenshot their facebook's and to send those

01:04:46.220 photos to my lawyer to expose this whole thing for what it was in court in open court that was

01:04:51.840 threatening the witnesses so they did everything they could to prevent us building a defense

01:04:55.580 they did everything they could to keep me in jail for seven months in solitary confinement i was put

01:04:59.640 in the supermax so i was put in uh in like a punishment uh ward of uh of poor philip prison which is

01:05:06.100 probably the worst prison in australia and i was put in like the punishment uh solitary confinement

01:05:10.720 um the first six weeks i was in prison i had i was basically in 24 hour lockdown and then the remaining

01:05:16.680 uh five months i was in uh 23 hour lockdown about five days a week four days a week 24 hour lockdown

01:05:25.700 so i was in yeah and and they refused books and mail for several months so i got no mail for about two

01:05:32.100 and a half months and i got no books for about five months so they did everything they could to try to

01:05:35.980 break me um and it didn't work so here we are it reminds me of the j6 prisoners also in america same

01:05:42.500 thing guys that showed up you know to protest right and then they get locked up in solitary confinement

01:05:47.080 and tortured and starved and like yes this is happening in our free societies our democracy

01:05:52.700 and then also what they did to me at nighttime was uh they wouldn't let me sleep so when i was uh when i

01:05:59.540 was the first sort of six weeks i was in there the indian and african security guards would come in

01:06:03.840 and they would flip the lights on and off through the night um so they they would do everything and then

01:06:09.320 the white guards would come in the morning i'd tell the white guards what had happened and they're

01:06:13.140 just like oh sorry man like oh you know and it's like this is this is unacceptable this is all for

01:06:18.500 the crime of getting attacked by literal jewish communists they were all jews they're all gay jews

01:06:24.340 they're all gay jews gay jewish communists attacked him violently uh you somewhat defended yourself but

01:06:32.220 like ultimately none of them were injured yeah yeah exactly it wasn't like it was no one got hurt like

01:06:37.480 they almost killed you or turned into a paraplegic and then you get thrown in jail for eight months

01:06:44.360 with a bunch of like literal murderers everyone else around you are all murderers basically right

01:06:48.260 i was the only one in the unit that wasn't a murderer or a terrorist oh my god see that's what

01:06:52.940 i think here's the funniest part here's the funniest part is that uh they refused my runouts

01:06:59.240 they refused my runouts uh because you have to fill out a form to be able to run out and be in a cage

01:07:05.580 if you've seen that movie shock call with that jamie lannister character uh from game of thrones

01:07:10.340 i can't remember he's got like a nordic name or a danish name or something um

01:07:15.320 there's that scene where he gets put in the supermax and then he's locked in his cell the

01:07:20.100 whole time and then he gets like these the run out yard he's like putting a cage out in the open

01:07:24.120 that's it's even it was actually worse than that uh so imagine those cages but then there's concrete

01:07:29.260 walls between them about four meters high so barely any sun even comes in either so at least they got

01:07:35.420 like uh fresh open air we were just kind of like in the it was like just pigeonville there was just

01:07:40.840 pigeon shit everywhere there was just like hundreds of pigeons and we're just like it was dark and

01:07:44.820 moldy and the concrete walls were like four meters high yeah so even worse than if you watch shock

01:07:50.020 caller you know what i'm talking about um and so you had to fill out a piece of paper to um uh do runouts

01:07:56.140 with other prisoners and there was two white power gangs that were in that unit with me and there

01:07:59.860 were murderers the white guys that had just killed cunts and uh i was trying to run out with with them

01:08:05.520 so that i could have like a social interaction because i hadn't had an actual conversation in

01:08:09.360 like five months and i got two runouts with uh these guys from the the sort of skinhead gangs

01:08:15.760 and then they removed my runouts off me because they were concerned for the good order of the prison

01:08:21.460 they were saying that if tom runs out with these murderers he's going to radicalize them

01:08:25.180 and so we can't have these murderers running out with tom um we have to keep tom we have to keep

01:08:30.920 tom isolated he's not allowed so it's not the murderers they're worried about yeah they were

01:08:35.880 terrorists murderers child rapists child rapists and they can run out with each other there was a

01:08:41.520 run out where the child rapists would be out there and the all the all the prisoners would be screaming

01:08:45.820 at him just abusing him constantly and that's that's how i know they were child rapists and um they the

01:08:51.500 child rapists were allowed to have friends they were allowed to run out with each other

01:08:54.400 but a white man that had two incidences of defending himself uh yeah you got to segregate

01:09:00.200 him from the yeah yeah you've got the you guys are great you guys are so professional

01:09:04.160 yeah imagine that but the the cages that you can see um imagine there's like four meter concrete

01:09:10.900 walls between them it tells you what they view as their biggest threat and it's people that think

01:09:17.020 like us and talk like us that's why they have no problem importing in you know murderers and rapists

01:09:22.520 and thieves and all that right because they're not really a threat to the system at the end of the

01:09:26.280 day yeah what i said in the i'll be very quick so we can change the topic but what i said in the

01:09:32.100 first podcast when i came out was i noticed that uh in the mainstream units there was a lot of violence

01:09:39.200 a lot of ethnic violence racial violence and a lot of the time it was white people that were the

01:09:44.320 victims of this violence and when white people were the victims they were then segregated so if the

01:09:50.220 islanders controlled a unit a mainstream unit like the pacific islanders and they attacked like a

01:09:54.900 group of white guys and they won that fight the white guys were then separated and segregated so

01:09:59.780 they were put in like protection or isolation or moved to another unit another mainstream unit

01:10:04.760 um and this happened over and over again i heard stories of these things and then uh over the

01:10:10.040 concrete wall and then uh when um uh there was an incident where the opposite happened where a group

01:10:19.080 of islanders uh and africans attacked a white kid and then a more powerful gang of white guys

01:10:24.800 got retribution we'll call it i won't know and say exactly what happened but they they did what they

01:10:29.820 needed to do and fucked some people up and uh allegedly and then what the what corrections did

01:10:36.980 then was for the good order of the prison they then segregated all the white guys in this group so

01:10:42.860 they didn't know who did it they didn't know which one did it or which group of the group did it

01:10:47.280 but the whole group the whole gang they split up so that that painted a really clear picture to me

01:10:52.720 that when whites are the victims they get double victimized when whites are the victims the government

01:10:57.980 will stomp you the government will segregate you the government will disempower you but when whites are

01:11:03.000 the uh the aggressor or when whites are the victors when we are winning the government will

01:11:08.440 stomp you the government will segregate you the government like big daddy government comes in

01:11:12.040 and it's just like no you you can't do that you're not allowed to do that so doesn't matter

01:11:15.180 whether you win or lose the government's going to come in and and treat you as as as horrible so

01:11:20.820 if i had lost that fight against the african um i still would have been charged with assault

01:11:25.360 and i would have been made out to be a loser on the television so what i tell people in our scene

01:11:31.880 is if if if god puts you if the universe or god whatever you believe puts you in a situation where

01:11:38.040 you're fighting for your life or you're fighting for your honor you're fighting if if a sit like

01:11:42.880 don't look for these situations but if you're put in that situation win don't lose win because

01:11:49.880 you're going to go to jail anyway you're going to get smeared anyway you may as well look cool and

01:11:55.020 tough and the victor and why people are so afraid of physical confrontation because they see on the

01:12:02.180 media all these three guys in the u.s they were they confronted a robber in their house and they

01:12:08.360 shot killed him with a shotgun and now they're in jail for life and even the guy that filmed it

01:12:11.880 and there's all these like black pill stories like oh look at what happened and it's like

01:12:15.480 but how many thousands of incidences have happened where the black robber kills the white person

01:12:20.700 you know so it's like you if god puts you in that situation you're fucked you know if god puts you in

01:12:26.980 that situation you're going to jail if god or you're dying so it's like you're you're gonna lose

01:12:32.740 in some way regardless you may as well lose in style you may as well lose on your own terms like

01:12:38.960 if you're doing seven months in solitary honestly solitude is a blessing in the k in the chaos of

01:12:45.480 the society that we live in solitude is a blessing you know you get the noises of the jungle but if

01:12:51.500 you can tune out the noises of the jungle it's honestly a blessing and it was the best seven months

01:12:56.500 of my life it sucked but struggle is the father of all things and i can't wait to do it again not

01:13:03.500 because i'm a martyr or a psychopath or but it's just like if god puts me in this position again

01:13:08.560 you know i'm gonna do the exact same thing and people like tom you don't learn your lesson you

01:13:13.880 keep using your fists you know you keep and it's like yeah don't put yourself in that situation where

01:13:18.940 you know violence is gonna arise right don't show up at some of these places but but but eventually

01:13:24.420 but eventually it might find you anyway because that's the world that we live in run away forever

01:13:30.820 we can't run away forever and i've never looked for violence i've never seeked violence and but

01:13:36.060 violence confronts you and you have to make a decision sometimes between do you live to fight

01:13:40.800 another day and i'm sure one day there'll be a circumstance where i'm gonna have to walk away

01:13:45.340 from something i'll be like tactically strategically you know and i can play the game all right there's been

01:13:51.000 times we've had we've been 40 50 guys deep on the march you know we're doing an activism and the

01:13:56.660 police have got the pepper spray out and they got the battens out and it's like but there's only 10

01:14:00.460 police and there's 50 of us and i'm like we could thump these cops right now we could absolutely thump

01:14:06.080 them we could we could smash these cops so easy right now this is going to be awesome and then i've

01:14:11.520 made the call instead of smashing the cops i've been like let's live the fight another day it will

01:14:15.640 demoralize everyone a little bit everyone will be upset that we didn't get a bash the police

01:14:19.220 but we'll just walk away we'll just walk away we'll just move on we know it's unlawful we know

01:14:24.720 it's against our rights and and everything but we'll just walk away and we'll get a bit bigger

01:14:29.600 and we'll come back again they'll do the same thing we'll walk away we'll come back again and one day

01:14:35.080 we're going to be bigger than the state and when we are then we're not walking away but until then

01:14:39.240 we'll play the game so i can't play the game i'm not a strategic idiot but when i'm faced with

01:14:44.000 violence when someone physically attacks me i'm going to defend myself so do you think someone

01:14:49.200 that is also an australian like a cultural thing because when i was down there it seemed like no

01:14:52.800 are they pretty neutered down there now they're not they're rough and tough criminal elements anymore

01:14:58.300 every uh i don't believe i just i don't believe in the the stereotyping i think that uh i have more

01:15:07.360 in common with a with a man of hot blood a white man of hot blood in america or in sweden

01:15:14.160 everyone goes oh sweden's cucked or england's cucked or america's cucked or it's like there's

01:15:19.660 just a lot of cucks everywhere yeah and there's only a few fighters and i identify with the white

01:15:25.040 fighters i identify well they want men to be cucked i mean isn't australia they're creating a bureau of

01:15:29.700 men's behavior right to to target guys from going to you know to not become far right nationalists

01:15:36.200 right to not become real men they had a whole controversy they had a whole controversy here because

01:15:40.600 there were these kids in high school who had a discord server like a private which is a for those

01:15:46.520 who don't know what a discord server is basically just a private chat uh app that the people that can

01:15:51.820 see it are people that you invite in and so it's basically their private chat and they had a rating

01:15:58.080 system for the other girls at their high school you know they had like wifeys at the top then they

01:16:02.800 had cuties they had mids and they had uh objects on right and then i think the bottom was like

01:16:11.740 unrapeable so i think i'm missing one but anyway it was just this goofy they're like 14 year old boys

01:16:18.180 some goofy thing that they're doing somehow uh it got leaked it got exposed and it became a national

01:16:25.640 news story that this this is an epidemic of misogyny uh we talked about it on our show

01:16:32.540 actually and i said well they're clearly not misogynist they've got people in they got wifeys

01:16:36.560 they got cuties they got all these positive you know female ratings so i mean they clearly like some

01:16:42.280 women uh but but anyway like the the point is is that uh it's just so ridiculous like why why is this

01:16:48.680 in why is this news and all these kids got expelled from the school and the principals getting

01:16:53.700 interviewed on national news oh we're stamping out misogyny we've got to address the culture and

01:16:58.680 all this i mean it's just absurd meanwhile you've got an epidemic of violence against women perpetrated

01:17:06.940 by black women multiple in that in that same week there was multiple instances of black women gang

01:17:13.460 bashing young white girls you have uh a month before that you had a white grandma getting stabbed to

01:17:21.300 death in front of her six-year-old granddaughter by a bunch of african criminals who then stole her car

01:17:27.780 um you've got obviously we know that the non-white uh you know africans and arabs and so on uh

01:17:35.460 way disproportionately guilty of rape um so if you want to talk about violence against women

01:17:42.340 or something actually that actually matters not like some stupid rating system about which girls

01:17:47.700 they like or don't like at high school but something that actually matters no we no the

01:17:52.660 news suppresses these stories the news won't report on them on the evening news properly they'll cover

01:17:58.020 up they'll they'll the same way that they blur out the roman salute they'll blur out the criminal

01:18:02.740 so that you can't see what race they are because they know that if they put that story front and

01:18:07.460 center to the australian people everyone is going to be you know obviously going to think racist thoughts

01:18:12.820 yes white people are going to see look look at what look at what these blacks have done look at what

01:18:16.580 these arabs have done to this defenseless white girl or white grandma that's horrifying we need to get

01:18:22.900 these people out of our country so um yeah they're just total frauds i mean obviously everyone watching

01:18:28.900 this understands that but it's just disgusting how fraudulent these people are and meanwhile you know

01:18:35.460 you've got the state like we were talking about elijah shaver before he interviewed me on his show

01:18:40.900 the media does hit pieces against him about how racist he is and how uh horrible he is because

01:18:46.660 he interviewed a neo-nazi um then apparently he's uh he's married to an australian woman

01:18:53.060 so he's he you know he was getting his visa approved as like a as a man who's married to an australian

01:18:58.660 citizen uh to live here now his lawyers getting all asio are looking into the into your uh application now

01:19:07.060 so now like his son is born in australia his wife is australian now now they're trying to

01:19:13.620 think about maybe deporting him and freaking it's amazing how quick they can deport like me

01:19:17.780 deport a white guy when they're a nationalist right exactly amazing how quick they can mobilize for that

01:19:24.180 yeah so this is what the state and the media are prioritizing is um you know every like tom gets

01:19:31.380 dragged before the court and they've got to you know get the snapshot of you know neo-nazi and and

01:19:37.940 so on these are the stories but they won't go and why aren't they sticking the camera in the face of

01:19:43.700 uh you know arab rapists or pacific islander murderers uh indian sex pests there's so yeah every

01:19:51.700 time i go to court half of one of the floors it's obviously the sex pest level oh my god

01:19:57.140 sex pest oh my god because it's like six there's like six layers to the court and one of the layers

01:20:02.340 one of the floors is obviously sex pestery they keep them isolated and um they're all indians they're

01:20:08.740 like all indians like it'll be minimum 50 yeah well i've been to india as a teenager and i know how

01:20:14.340 they treat white girls over there yeah yeah and you you will see you will see maybe once a year you

01:20:19.860 will see once a year there'll be some heinous crime against a white girl that's put on television

01:20:24.820 but like cockroaches for every one you see there's like hundreds of thousands you don't see

01:20:29.300 and you know these happen daily like every white girl that i've ever met in australia

01:20:36.660 has a story about an indian attempt rape or indian attempt sex pestery you know like they're just

01:20:43.860 fucking disgusting well hopefully this is sinking in that some of these girls are thinking racially

01:20:48.820 like hey it's not these white aussie guys right and that brings me to yeah go on yeah we sorry to

01:20:55.220 interrupt but we did kind of over you asked me a question quite earlier in the show about um the

01:21:00.260 general attitude of australians and uh that's what i was trying to get to uh in conclusion they're seeing

01:21:07.700 such a huge increase in being negatively affected themselves they personally are suffering now and now

01:21:13.700 that they're personally on the receiving end whether it be through social and cultural factors

01:21:18.980 like sex pestery whether it be through seeing just the amount of home invasions and being personally

01:21:23.780 affected by the amount of home invasions whether it be not being able to afford a home or be involved

01:21:28.100 in a home seeing this stuff uh is radicalizing the average white australian that's not a communist

01:21:36.340 freak to believing the following statement i don't necessarily agree with the hitler stuff but i

01:21:44.420 support everything that you say and every white person i've met that's not a communist freak

01:21:51.060 in the last couple years every single one has said to me if they're in the movement then obviously

01:21:56.340 they like the hitler stuff but every other white person i've met says tom i agree with everything that

01:22:01.780 you say i've noticed everything that you say i don't disagree with any of it i just don't understand

01:22:06.900 the hitler stuff so is it doing a disservice okay no what's your response no no it's not

01:22:11.060 no my response is is always you will understand in time you'll understand that all of this ends from

01:22:15.460 world war ii or like our nations have been subverted and destroyed obviously there's a general decline

01:22:20.740 prior to world war ii i won't get too esoteric and go too deep with the average person but obviously

01:22:25.780 there's a general cyclical history and stuff and people like their eyes start to wander off when you bring up

01:22:30.820 like a 2 000 year civilizational cycle like but you can but everyone knows hitler everyone knows

01:22:36.500 world war ii and you can put that as like the apex of our civilization or our society starting to

01:22:41.460 collapse the beginning of the end and so what i tell people is what hitler was dealing with and

01:22:48.420 what the germans were dealing with in the 30s was what we call the weimar republic in the in the 20s

01:22:53.300 and early 30s and they came to power because germany was so corrupted and destroyed and subverted

01:23:00.100 by jews and they they made a humiliation and mockery of their people and they impoverished

01:23:05.060 them introduced to transsexualism and sex change operations that's the books they were burning right

01:23:11.380 yeah yeah and then i say that is exactly what we're going through now we're going through global weimar

01:23:17.220 and so we need a 1933 style solution to the 1933 problem you know and an updated version it's worse

01:23:24.500 actually so it is worse because we need we need to become like we need to go beyond the 1933 solution

01:23:31.220 in my view i don't think the 1933 solution is even enough that's the thing that's also why it's important

01:23:37.860 i think to not back down on uh it's not about ideologically dotting all your p's and q's about

01:23:46.500 being a perfect national socialist and uh in my view um what matters though is the fighting spirit what

01:23:56.660 hitler and the nazis represent in the mass consciousness ultimately is the white man

01:24:02.100 having enough and just and and fighting back taking control and reasserting himself that's

01:24:11.300 basically what it means in the mass consciousness the mass consciousness doesn't know all the nuances

01:24:15.780 about this or that policy that the third reich may have had and that those things we should study them

01:24:21.460 but they aren't of central importance what is of central importance is the idea that we're not taking

01:24:27.300 this shit anymore it's not enough to agree that oh yes you know tom's experience is like my experience

01:24:32.740 so many people i'd talk to are like yes you know joel what you say is true when you talk about the

01:24:36.980 problems of immigration and non-whites and rants about indians and rants about blacks and so on

01:24:43.700 even about the jews um but then they just go on living a normal life uh they don't have a fire lit

01:24:50.580 within them like is lit within me or within tom or within other people that that are actually

01:24:56.660 committed to the movement where they're willing to actually put their life on the line to fight

01:25:02.900 um and that's the difference it does it's not just about intellectually agreeing that there's

01:25:08.420 an anti-white agenda and knowing all the talking points and knowing how it's that the news is lying

01:25:13.700 to you or or whatever it's about what are you going to do about it and what uh and what what hitler

01:25:20.900 and the swastika and so on represents is doing something about it uh that's what it represents

01:25:27.700 and when they attack when they attack the militancy of the movement when they attack the optics of the

01:25:34.420 movement and so on um you know what people are basically attacking is uh the the energy um it could

01:25:42.740 well we want to we want to keep um you know the the the mass marketable talking points the agreeable

01:25:49.780 aspects of the movement we want to make it seem less scary we want to make it seem like no one's

01:25:54.820 going to actually have to do anything except vote harder and uh have polite discussions and we're

01:26:00.980 going to have this safe and optical version of uh addressing white genocide and defeating global

01:26:07.460 jury and and reasserting white power and that isn't that just isn't realistic it's not that easy

01:26:12.820 uh it isn't how i mean that's not how it's gonna work we're gonna actually have to fight for it yeah

01:26:16.740 i mean i get the idea of i mean i look at uh nationalism the strides that we have made even

01:26:22.420 over the last five years we've been covering these topics for 10 years and things we were talking about

01:26:26.900 10 years ago now are trending on x you know about you know banned adl jewish supremacy all the anti-white

01:26:34.100 talking points it's essentially going mainstream and there's a broader range of right-wing folks including

01:26:40.180 normie conservatives who are coming onto our page about some of these things i know joel you've been

01:26:44.660 making the rounds talking and debating with different people so you know we have to stay

01:26:48.580 on these people but and i know it's important to mainstream for a broad appeal which is necessary

01:26:54.180 it's already happening but simultaneously you need that kind of edgy undercurrent that's pushing the

01:27:00.500 discussion further because we were the edgy undercurrent that was pushing the mainstream into this

01:27:05.460 discussion right so i think it takes all personalities and different facets you know to strike at different

01:27:10.100 times maybe a little ruthless and crazy is good but so is you know class and self-control at

01:27:15.860 different times you need a bit of it i think at all different levels of the war yeah right

01:27:21.620 the white man is demoralized we need to moralize the white man in the sense that

01:27:26.580 like there's a lot of learned helplessness there's a lot of blackpilling there's a there's a lot of people

01:27:32.260 that know what the problem is and it doesn't inspire them to act it doesn't inspire them to wake up every

01:27:38.580 morning it has the opposite effect it makes them depressed it makes them want to turn away from

01:27:43.860 politics it makes them into a bitter human being and and so the problem is spiritual the problem

01:27:49.860 isn't about what facts they understand the problem isn't intellectual it isn't ideological the problem

01:27:55.300 is a lack of willpower uh fortitude uh courage um sacrifice honor and so reawakening these values is

01:28:07.220 um a kind of spiritual operation that is entirely distinct from spreading political talking points

01:28:12.980 that is something that i've come to terms with over the last few years and and probably explains uh

01:28:17.620 for those people who have seen me around maybe the difference

01:28:21.540 is me recognizing that uh you know i was kind of drawing certain conclusions from information but

01:28:28.260 that everyone doesn't draw the same conclusions and that you actually have to address the process

01:28:34.500 by which you draw conclusions not just the conclusions themselves or you know the the basis of conclusions

01:28:40.100 themselves in other words um the the overarching view uh of the average person is the system is run by a

01:28:50.420 politicians that don't give a fuck about us they're all corrupt they're all pieces of

01:28:54.500 shit i hate the political class they're screwing us over immigration is bad and so on what can you do

01:29:00.900 about it there's nothing i can do about it there's nothing anyone can do about it i guess we'll just try

01:29:05.300 and make money and have a family and and do our best that's basically the average view those people

01:29:10.740 don't need to really have it explained to them much further about how bad the political class is and

01:29:16.020 um you know how anti-white the system is and so on a lot of them pretty much agree obviously we need

01:29:20.980 that but what they need is someone to give them uh someone needs to make them believe that we can do

01:29:27.540 something about it yeah they need to be inspired yeah even that actually has the willpower to to

01:29:34.020 generate a reaction that is uh powerful enough to do something well that's why i like this trend of

01:29:40.500 repatriation they have to go back mass deportation like this is the only solution so while you know

01:29:47.860 the mainstream is picking up a lot of our talking points even from 10 years ago now we need to push

01:29:52.180 it even you know further to the right of like no we can't tolerate all these people they need to go

01:29:57.380 back if they came between this and this period that's it repatriation so do you guys think that

01:30:01.780 normalizing the idea of mass deportations is probably one of the most important things that we can do

01:30:07.380 right now don't you think because i mean we need our demographics in check no number one right

01:30:12.660 everything else is second in political this in political discourse it is the number one issue

01:30:19.780 i actually got into some debates obviously i'm an anti-semite but i got into some debates with

01:30:24.580 people who i'm friends with who uh think that we need to focus entirely upon anti-semitism as like

01:30:29.860 the first principle of politics you mentioned before people talking about jewish supremacy

01:30:34.260 um the problem that i have with this is they talk about jewish supremacy like as if the problem with

01:30:41.140 jewish supremacy is supremacy rather than that it's jewish like as if white supremacy would be a

01:30:46.420 problem um like supremacy itself is the problem there's this kind of like residual egalitarianism

01:30:53.380 that is implicit in that kind of discourse this idea that um all jews think that they're better than

01:30:58.340 everybody else and that they should have their own cut their own state where they are their own ethno

01:31:02.900 state where they're in control and they think that they should run the banks and the media and who

01:31:06.340 the hell do they think they are no one should be in charge no we should be running the banks and the

01:31:10.420 media and have our own state uh and be ethnically cleansing uh you know people who want to live in

01:31:17.540 our territory actually um and then i got called a white zionist by some of these people as if that's

01:31:23.460 supposed to be an insult like what what movement are we in um i'm a white supremacist i the idea that

01:31:29.780 you want white people to be supreme in their countries yes of course yeah it's as supreme as

01:31:35.540 possible that's what i want the idea of supremacy is fundamentally good and noble it's the idea that

01:31:42.420 some people are better than others and that therefore people who are better than others should

01:31:47.460 have a requisite status conferred upon them for that for that superiority um egalitarianism is the idea

01:31:55.060 that everyone should have the same status no matter how much better they are than others and often it

01:32:00.180 goes even further than that and says well the only reason why some people are can be seen to be better

01:32:05.540 than others is because of unfair distributions of status um it completely reverses the relationship

01:32:13.300 between nature and society the idea that like society determines nature other than nature determining

01:32:18.740 society i believe in the natural organic society i believe in the organic uh state uh you know a

01:32:25.860 natural way of life that's why i'm a supremacist and everyone is a micro supremacist in the entire world

01:32:31.780 like when i if you need to get surgery you need to get like your kidney removed or something

01:32:36.900 um or kidney surgery uh you're a you're a surgeon supremacist you want the best possible surgeon who's

01:32:42.660 got all this experience and has a degree you don't want some guy uh who who would like to be a

01:32:47.860 surgeon really bad and it's not fair that you're discriminating against him because he sucks at

01:32:51.620 surgery and has no idea what he's doing um or when you want to marry someone uh you become a uh

01:32:58.340 you become a supremacist you're not going to marry a fat chick just because it wouldn't be

01:33:01.940 fair that she doesn't get to marry you because she's fat um that would be absurd right sorry to

01:33:06.900 all the guys at home that are married to fat chicks but the point is is that um everyone's a

01:33:11.860 micro supremacist but then when we expand out to the political level apparently now it's like

01:33:15.780 totally ridiculous to say that supremacy should be the organizing principle for society

01:33:20.580 um even though egalitarianism is retarded on every other level all of a sudden at the largest and most

01:33:26.580 important level now all of a sudden all the values get reversed and people say well joel you know you're

01:33:32.100 right but the thing is is that you know that's not very optical like people aren't going to want to

01:33:36.420 hear that message because it's kind of extreme and so we have to basically argue that um the pro-white

01:33:43.380 position is actually the real form of egalitarianism like as if egalitarianism isn't the very core of

01:33:48.900 the reason why the white race is in the position that it's in is because we have degraded ourselves

01:33:53.380 we stop seeing ourselves as superior and therefore we stop guarding ourselves against the inferior like

01:33:58.500 as nietzsche said the strong must be protected from the weak if you're a if you're a god if you're a

01:34:03.620 gardener and you're growing uh and you've got beautiful flowers or you're growing uh vegetables or

01:34:09.780 whatever the number one uh priority that you have other than making sure that it gets all the

01:34:15.940 nutrients and you know water and so on sunlight that it needs is get it keeping the weeds out

01:34:21.460 if you just allow all the weeds to fester and to fill up and take from the space and resources that

01:34:26.660 enables your garden to grow your plants won't reach their full potential and on a long enough

01:34:30.420 timeline they'll die and that's the white race is like a garden and we're not weeding it and we

01:34:36.180 we stopped weeding it because we came to say well there's no difference between a weed and a flower

01:34:41.540 that's at the core of the problem until we can actually talk about that in a direct way we will

01:34:46.580 not address it so to me um you know that's why i think we need a more muscular rhetoric we need we

01:34:53.620 need people with a kind of romanticism uh a kind of uh you know a type of mindset to go i'm gonna

01:35:00.980 basically stake my my uh claim on the full truth and and put it you know basically willing to die on

01:35:09.940 that hill i'm not going to have a marketing strategy where i try and adapt my world view into you know a

01:35:17.060 kind of a neat set of like rhetoric rhetorical points that comport well with what people already believe

01:35:25.140 no the problem is is that what people already believe is wrong it needs to be totally destroyed

01:35:29.700 the problem is is that the average white person is weak lazy uh unspirited uh they don't believe

01:35:36.740 in themselves uh and they're nowhere near racist enough and they're nowhere near supremacist enough

01:35:41.460 and that's what we have to address we have to make them believe in themselves and believe in these ideas

01:35:46.420 otherwise we won't win no one's going to fight for the white race unless they truly like no non-white

01:35:53.300 supremacist is going to do what needs to be done you have to be a white supremacist to go hey look at all

01:35:59.140 these millions of people and many of them are families and some of them are nice people and

01:36:03.060 they quite like it here actually we're going to kick them all out we're going to round them up and

01:36:07.460 we're going to remove them forcefully which will probably be necessary from our country and oh by the

01:36:12.820 way we're going to have a lot of leftists a lot of traitors and so on to round up as well there's going

01:36:18.100 to be a lot of brutality necessary to fix the absolutely decrepit situation our civilization is

01:36:26.100 in and you're not going to have the wherewithal to support and and act out what needs to be done

01:36:32.740 unless you have that level of conviction so to me we have to go all the way that's why i'm going to

01:36:38.260 defend hitler that's why i call myself a white supremacist and that's why i think it's i think it's

01:36:44.180 actually good optics i think hitler's actually really cool um i think supremacy is actually more

01:36:49.940 like the most famous philosopher in the modern world is friedrich niger he's like the only philosopher

01:36:55.540 everyone knows what his name is and what is his philosophy it's basically supremacism so this idea

01:37:00.180 that supremacism isn't cool or interesting and people don't want to hear about it or that no one

01:37:04.260 wants to hear about hitler um it's just wrong it's actually really interesting uh i think it's it's

01:37:10.980 inching in that direction i think again you're young you got that fresh energy you're cutting

01:37:17.140 edge and i think it's it's heading more in that direction where things are going to be opening up

01:37:21.860 you know you just got to keep you got to keep on it you know that's what i mean is these topics that

01:37:26.580 we know are mainstreaming we have to get them to go even farther to the right thomas what do you think

01:37:32.260 i like the the term that's been popularized recently about ratchet theory and i don't

01:37:41.380 believe that any metaphor is perfect there's no there's no metaphor that's perfect we all just

01:37:45.860 use different terms to try to uh create a picture in people's mind as to how we're behaving in different

01:37:52.900 planes and i like the fact that what we were saying in the movement 10 years ago is now the mainstream

01:38:01.540 discourse of anyone right of center and joel and myself and uh other people that are leading

01:38:09.460 factors within the movement here in australia and i hope globally as well what we're looking at is

01:38:15.300 everyone's playing catch up to us politics is ruled by the minority or by the extreme if you want

01:38:21.220 to call it that we're the extreme right we're the far right if that's how they want to put it you know

01:38:26.900 10 years ago 15 years ago the whole tranny agenda the whole transsexual freak show was in these tiny

01:38:33.300 little subreddits and tumblr and stuff and it was just like these radical communists in these little

01:38:38.180 echo chambers talking about uh how to like get estrogen and how to cut their dicks off and now the

01:38:46.340 federal government in your country and mine are protecting the rights of jewish doctors to cut dicks off

01:38:54.820 children and to prescribe hormones so politics is always moved by the extremes this idea that oh

01:39:01.380 just hug the center and shift the center over a bit we know that that's not how politics works

01:39:07.220 and anyone that's still trying to do that they're kind of wasting their energy because

01:39:11.380 why would you sit on the fulcrum if you are a political if you have political agency and there's

01:39:16.100 a seesaw of politics and we can see there's a seesaw even even though a lot of people say it's not

01:39:20.020 left and right it's pro-white and anti-white yeah okay okay whatever right let's say you're right

01:39:24.820 there's a seesaw there's a fulcrum in the middle where all the white is all of society 98 of society

01:39:31.860 is in the middle that's a fact one percent are these freaks and one percent are nazis so adolf hitler

01:39:39.140 says in mein kampf i think chapter two he says all my life i have only come across three types of people

01:39:44.420 the fighters the lukewarm and the traitors so what he's saying is the nazis the uh the normies

01:39:53.140 or whatever term you want to call it and the you know the jew communist uh transsexual freaks so

01:40:01.940 all of the weight is already in the middle and the way we move the fulcrum or the overton window

01:40:06.740 or however you want to look at it from a political strategy is from the extreme yeah and so if if the

01:40:12.660 the majority of the population that's on the right hand side of the fulcrum are already starting to

01:40:18.660 lean towards our energy now ultimately we're not trying to shift the fulcrum we're trying to split

01:40:23.300 the thing in half we don't want to live with transsexuals we don't want to live with traitors

01:40:28.580 we don't want to live with freaks and that's another important discourse that people need to understand

01:40:32.580 in the right wing if we're going to call it that that we're not looking to live in a happy harmonious

01:40:37.380 society with people that think it's normal to cut the genitals of children we want to prosecute

01:40:41.940 these people and we want to legalize the execution of them that's what we want to do because they

01:40:46.660 shouldn't exist they shouldn't breathe oxygen in the same space that we live in and worst case

01:40:52.260 scenario we just live in two different societies but ideally we prosecute these people and we send

01:40:57.060 them to hell because they're disgusting evil like they're the most evil immoral freaks that have ever

01:41:02.580 existed in in the existence of any life form what kind of disgusting creature wants to mutilate the

01:41:08.340 genitals of their own children like that that's just demonic that's just anti-nature anti-natural

01:41:14.500 law anti-god anti-harmony anti-peace and there's there's no moral or physical or philosophical

01:41:21.380 justification for this behavior they're just demons and this is obvious so ultimately we're trying to

01:41:27.380 create the split now the way we snap the fulcrum the snap the board over the fulcrum is by putting as

01:41:33.140 much weight on our end as we can because only two things can happen there's only two possibilities

01:41:38.180 either we snap the board in half because it's very fragile and that's what the liberal democracy is

01:41:42.660 really worried about we need to reinforce our democracy you know we need to keep everyone in

01:41:46.500 the center we need to basically make it illegal for these people on the right to do what they're doing

01:41:50.500 but the right if you want to call it that will continue to gain strength and weight momentum and mass

01:41:55.780 because they're continuing to allow the extreme left to build its momentum and its mass so there's

01:42:02.580 always going to be a natural reaction where people see this demonic shit going on and they go one way

01:42:09.060 or the other and and the longer people stay in the middle the more likely they're uh going to fall

01:42:14.740 by the wayside they're going to fall onto one side it's like the titanic is snapping in half western

01:42:18.820 civilization is the titan it's the titanic and it's snapping in half and they're going to go to one

01:42:23.940 side or the other now if we can get all the mass on our side if we can shift the whole center across

01:42:30.500 then the thing won't snap it won't snap society won't snap what will happen is we'll have kind of

01:42:35.780 a semi-peaceful situation a semi-peaceful democratic sort of situation where we can shift all the weight

01:42:42.100 over to the right quite rapidly and then the fulcrum just it just it flips on that point and all the

01:42:47.780 lefties and freaks basically fly off the seesaw and that that all happens quite nicely

01:42:53.540 it doesn't end up with this kind of balkanization and this civil war and racial conflict like armed

01:43:01.380 conflict it doesn't go hot it kind of resolves in a kind of parliamentarian matter where we can then

01:43:06.660 you know ratchet things back to how they were and then maybe if we've got enough momentum we can keep

01:43:11.140 pushing and keep reminding people but that can only occur that can only occur with a radical and extreme

01:43:17.380 minority of leaders of thought leaders that can charge in a new spiritual and almost mystical way

01:43:28.100 a new ethos a new spirit of living it's even beyond political we've got all the economic arguments right

01:43:34.820 we're better off without this situation we were better off before all this fucking diversity

01:43:39.300 multiculturalism transgender shit better off economically we're better off culturally we're better

01:43:44.500 off socially we're better off politically because we have political rights when it's a it's a white

01:43:48.980 majority country we're way freer in that sense when it's a white majority country so we've got all these

01:43:54.740 arguments we've got all these positions as to how it personally is going to benefit us yet we still don't

01:44:00.420 have power we don't have power we're not in charge yet and i believe and i think joel agrees with me here

01:44:06.420 that the reason why we don't have power is because we don't have a fire and an essence and a spirit

01:44:14.260 and joel uses the term romanticism which i appreciate as well because i think there's two components to

01:44:18.180 it i think there's a feminine and a masculine it's going to be muscular and romantic it's got to be

01:44:23.620 you know our term in our organization is we say blood and honor you know it's got to be material and

01:44:28.340 spiritual but there's got to be an ethos there's got to be a uh something men are guided much more

01:44:36.580 when things when society gets this broken whatever they're these demons these freaks whatever is

01:44:44.500 motivating them it's not necessarily coming from a rational position and i think we should avoid our

01:44:50.420 leadership restricting itself and restraining itself to purely philosophical and rational arguments

01:44:55.620 we should allow feeling emotion and energy and i'll finish with this last point an anecdotal point

01:45:02.580 we have caught the organization that i've run and uh jacob persant who's one of my off-siders uh runs

01:45:08.500 the activist side of things the national socialist network horrible optics uh balaclavas and black

01:45:13.460 block and it's it's so evil and scary and and we shouldn't have this going on it's a bad look for the

01:45:18.100 movement and you know everyone hates us in the right wing we're we're like uh we're agent provocateurs and we're

01:45:25.220 we're getting paid by the left to do it and all this sort of nonsense and then a white girl gets

01:45:30.100 bashed by a bunch of africans and i look through the comment section and the boomers in the comment

01:45:34.100 section saying well you know if those if those balaclava bandits were on that train that wouldn't

01:45:39.780 have happened you know i'd much rather get on a train with the balaclava bandit bandits than a bunch

01:45:44.900 of africans you know and so everyone hates us until the violence starts yes everyone hates us until

01:45:51.940 it's their daughter getting raped you know and when it's their daughter that's raped they're

01:45:56.500 going to knock on my door and say tom what are we going to do about this and i say i've been preparing

01:46:00.980 this for some time this is what we can do about this i've actually got a solution to the problem

01:46:05.220 i'm going to do everything i can to help these people even though right now they're either apathetic

01:46:10.020 or they hate us so we're fighting for our race because we have something that's so much even deeper than

01:46:14.580 just a material love for our people and to me that that's the future of the movement that's what

01:46:19.060 that's where the next 10 and 20 years of energy is going to come from it has to be spiritual it has

01:46:23.540 to be religious it has to be ritual it has to be it has to be bigger than than just party politics it

01:46:30.340 has to be a new religion yeah the religion of your folk too i i don't like all this infighting too of

01:46:36.740 like you know pagan and christian and and all that we just have to put folk first and the spiritual

01:46:43.220 condition is such a huge part of this as all the old philosophers i mean we're we're westerners

01:46:48.820 western civilization was built on you know philosophizing and romanticism and thinking

01:46:54.660 of all these things we need to bring bring that energy back it's been squashed out of us

01:46:59.860 you know it's been beaten from a jungian perspective like because so many of your ancestors

01:47:08.180 you have it's actually like a scientific fact we know ancestral memory is just programmed into like

01:47:15.140 pretty much all mammals not just humans but because you have so many christian ancestors

01:47:22.260 and then so many more pagan ancestors all of those archetypes are literally within your unconscious like

01:47:29.460 you carry within you the the belief systems and the world view of so many generations of of your

01:47:37.220 ancestors and you can go back further and at one point maybe there were arians you know writing the vedas and

01:47:42.980 and inventing hinduism uh you know maybe there were ancient egyptians we know the pharaohs were all

01:47:49.220 basically uh europeans or um or who knows what they were up to if you go back far enough generations

01:47:55.460 but ultimately all of that is within us so um yeah like i i agree like the pagan verse christian thing

01:48:04.980 it's it's kind of unavoidable when people are dogmatic about a subject but from a perspective of of an

01:48:09.460 identitarian perspective of like who are we putting aside those debates philosophically theologically

01:48:15.940 like we are all of these things actually and the i i take the view that spirit blood isn't a dichotomy

01:48:25.380 that it's all interconnected like the the life force is the blood like the the force which generated you

01:48:33.540 um is the same force which drove your parents and your grandparents and your great-grandparents and so

01:48:39.860 on into intergenerationally to strive to create our civilization to create uh and to embody like

01:48:47.300 certain values that are befitting a white man or a woman you know we we carry ourselves differently when

01:48:52.420 we when we're truly honoring our blood and we're living up to our potential there isn't no other people

01:48:57.940 carry themselves with the kind of uh dignity and morality and uh you know all the virtues that that

01:49:05.300 are kind of innate in us are so much higher and and uh you know more admirable and so when you're

01:49:12.820 trying to honor that tradition and when you're thinking about the fact that you're going to die

01:49:16.500 but then you want you're going to have children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and so on down

01:49:20.180 down to eons uh ideally if we don't get genocided um if we win uh that will be carrying that legacy

01:49:28.100 forward and hopefully evolving hopefully building upon it and going to that's what it's all about

01:49:32.740 it's not about you it's about this great chain of being these thousands and thousands of years of

01:49:38.580 arians behind you and extending out in front of you uh trying to ascend and become a higher and more noble

01:49:46.100 form of life we already are like the greatest form of life on this planet and we want to become

01:49:51.700 it can always be better ubermensch you can always become better and that isn't and that isn't just

01:49:56.740 like uh you know getting taller and stronger and higher iq that's part of it but it's it's spiritually

01:50:02.980 evolving it's recognizing the crisis around us as a test that is basically will determine the next

01:50:11.300 phase of our evolution like what do we have to become in order to confront this and overcome

01:50:17.460 this what kind of new culture do we have to create what new mentality what what set of virtues do we have

01:50:22.980 to honor and revere in order to become a people capable of taking back our nations taking back our

01:50:29.300 countries taking back i mean we were running the whole planet you know very short very short time ago

01:50:34.980 we should be running the planet um so how do we take it all back who do we have to become to take

01:50:41.380 it all back that's the question it's not just as simple as oh if we just you know teach people that

01:50:47.140 you know the system is anti-white look at this double standard about no we have to think holistically

01:50:51.860 we have to yeah it's much much deeper yeah yeah it's much deeper to be like a naturopath for a race

01:50:59.060 so last question for you guys well so what can the the little guys do right now to make a difference i

01:51:04.260 mean in my view i think starting families building community becoming the best white person that you

01:51:10.660 can become and holding the line that way i mean spiritually mentally and on a psychic level i mean

01:51:17.140 that's very important because things trends are going to eventually it's going to go there where

01:51:22.260 things are going to pop off in ways that we don't even expect yet so it's like like thomas was saying i'll

01:51:27.300 be here i'll be ready when that time comes so thomas what do you think thinking in terms of the

01:51:32.900 little guys what are things that they can do right now if they feel powerless there's there's two

01:51:38.500 sides of it absolutely and so we have with our organization a two-pronged uh attack we have this

01:51:46.580 idea that there's a need for search parties there's a need for people to go out and look for survivors we're

01:51:55.060 in a spiritual zombie apocalypse i like watching zombie movies um i don't know why i just always like

01:52:01.140 watching them but i've always had an essence when i'm watching them this is i'm looking at it as a

01:52:05.700 metaphor for real life that our people are infected with a virus a mind come to philadelphia thomas

01:52:10.580 you'll see plenty of zombies yeah well that's obviously that the full fruition of the zombie is

01:52:15.780 by the time it gets to that point there's a drug effect that they actually look like a zombie

01:52:19.940 uh but we're fighting we're fighting a a demonic mind virus or spiritual virus and so

01:52:25.540 the the two essences of what we're doing as an organization to help the individual is you have

01:52:32.660 to have the search party you have to have the search party so you have to have guys that are

01:52:36.740 willing to go out and risk danger to recruit and attract other people and that that's it that's a

01:52:44.500 huge amount of risk and reward and people burn out from that process and activism plays a huge toll on

01:52:48.980 people's lives and it's really only suited for young guys guys in their in their 30s and 40s they don't do it

01:52:53.860 for long they they usually get really burnt out unless there's different kinds of activism what

01:52:57.620 like what you and your husband are doing uh where there's this idea that you know when you watch i

01:53:02.420 am legend you know and uh the character goes to will smith goes out onto the pier and he has like the

01:53:07.780 radio and he's like is there anyone out there can anyone hear me if you can hear me come to the pier

01:53:12.980 that's kind of what you guys are doing you're like a radio broadcaster so you're looking for survivors in

01:53:16.740 a different method and i and i really appreciate all the podcasters and all the content creators and that's

01:53:21.060 how i came across joel joel wasn't involved in any sort of specific direct organization but just as

01:53:26.580 an individual he was just he had his he was just talking out into the ether is anyone listening can

01:53:31.540 anyone hear me does anyone understand what's going on this is what i think is going on this is what i

01:53:36.260 can see can anyone else see this virus that's killing us that like we need to work out how to

01:53:40.660 fight back from this virus and let me compartmentalize all the different components of

01:53:44.260 the virus and let me explain what the cure to the virus is and you know so there's all these different

01:53:50.180 strategies but ultimately we're looking for survivors we're looking for community so it's

01:53:54.020 it's great as an individual to do whatever it is that you're doing but uh the other side of it is

01:53:58.900 okay now you've got survivors and you've built more activists now you've got this search party that's

01:54:03.540 found more search party people what do you ultimately do with them when they burn out when

01:54:07.220 they ultimately they've tried for so long and everyone's got a different fuse some people have

01:54:12.020 got to file it under them where they can do it for their whole life you know like you guys have been

01:54:15.540 doing this for over a decade and you're just still there like you can only see slight return on

01:54:19.860 investment every year you're dedicating your whole lives to it but you're moving things so slowly and

01:54:24.420 so and it can be blackbilling as a content creator it's like i'm giving my everything into this and

01:54:29.780 it's only moving things these like micro degrees but ultimately it's like the fact that it's moving

01:54:35.300 is proof that we need to keep going yeah you need people in the trenches you know digging in the

01:54:39.780 trenches exactly and so to me it's so it's so uh important to have a backup strategy not a backup

01:54:47.300 strategy it's not necessarily i call it plan a and plan b but it's from a zombie apocalypse scenario

01:54:52.180 a spiritual zombie apocalypse it's like you have search parties and you have survivors colonies so i

01:54:57.460 think the other half of our program isn't necessarily going out and trying to find survivors it's just

01:55:02.740 building a survivors colony and it's just building parallel community um you know building a network of

01:55:09.060 people that know what's going on and are willing to just put in the work they don't necessarily

01:55:13.380 need to do activism they're not necessarily going out and looking for other people but those that

01:55:17.380 will find us will find us there's a law of attraction even without activism people will find

01:55:21.380 you and that background work that kind of i call it the broadhead strategy in the sense that

01:55:25.860 you know that's that's appealing to people that maybe aren't hardcore ideologues or really

01:55:30.020 spiritually motivated but it appeals to building more of a knower's arc you know not that i'm a

01:55:35.380 christian but you know this idea that you're going to save more of of the folk you're going to save

01:55:40.020 more of the people and um uh you're creating a better alternative to people so at an individual

01:55:46.340 level sure uh be the be the ubermensch be the coming man uh you know develop yourselves as best as

01:55:53.060 you can display uh put your genes on the best display that you can put them on don't be brought down

01:55:58.340 by society society is decaying and crumbling around you and uh to be able to insulate and isolate

01:56:04.420 yourselves from that decay and to actually go the other way is what it means to be a good national

01:56:08.580 socialist or or a good area or however you want to put it a good white man and you know have as big

01:56:14.260 a family as you can manage and and and marry a a woman that has the same values as you and wants to

01:56:20.340 be on the same path with you and and build up your resources as an individual sure um but we won't win

01:56:25.700 this as a collection of individuals no you know we can eventually have to bring our talents together

01:56:31.060 right that's that's what has to happen we need we need to mobilize we need to tribe up

01:56:35.140 and uh i'll finish on this point politics is ultimately power and the government has all the

01:56:41.700 power the government and its institutions are completely taken over and you can try to subvert

01:56:46.820 them from within re-unsubvert them however the mental gymnastics of that works and the people doing

01:56:51.540 that good on them and keep going uh it's better than nothing absolutely uh but i believe that the

01:56:56.260 most important thing is to build a new government uh i believe that when we have built enough of our

01:57:01.140 own manpower enough of our own resources enough of our own skills and build them into a network a

01:57:06.020 tribal network together and as we network with these other groups eventually we become a replacement

01:57:11.780 a parallel government to the government and then and only then is there going to be any sort

01:57:16.100 of solution whether that solution be political cultural economic whatever doesn't matter

01:57:20.100 only then is there going to be a solution and not a millisecond before you're not going to win

01:57:25.220 nationalists aren't going to win without a prototype to display nationalists aren't going to win over

01:57:30.740 the majority of the population by saying hey we're we're white nationals and we want mass deportations

01:57:37.060 and we want what's best for you you should vote for us the average white person's like things are bad

01:57:41.780 but they're kind of stable these guys will probably create a race war so i'm not going to vote for them

01:57:45.380 so there's no solution to the problem that doesn't include actually building a prototype society that you

01:57:52.580 rule over already and then you're saying to the rest of the white people that don't live in your

01:57:56.180 society hey look at what we've built under our leadership we want to do this for the whole

01:57:59.620 country this is this is this is what we're doing this is how it's going to look this is how it's going

01:58:03.540 to be and in the meantime while the majority aren't supporting of us to put us in power come join us

01:58:10.340 come live with us come see what life is like with other white races and when white racism is cooler and

01:58:15.060 better and it has all the benefits then and only then will you win over the the neutrals but whether

01:58:23.060 we win over the neutrals or not we will have our pocket of light and that pocket of light will

01:58:26.820 develop and if it holds on to its strength and its truth and its honor and its blood most importantly

01:58:32.180 then we will prevail blood not yeah but what i what i always uh say in regards to this as well is that

01:58:39.540 one of the most important things you can do as a nationalist or white nationalist or nazi or

01:58:46.180 whatever is to be as cool and interesting and attractive as possible um and then try and get

01:58:54.020 together with as many other cool interesting and attractive uh fellow nazis and and create um cool

01:59:01.300 interesting uh attractive scenes uh where you're doing all this cool interesting and attractive stuff to the

01:59:08.740 point where you're not trying to convince like please please listen to my podcast please like

01:59:16.020 listen to me spurg out about how the holocaust was fake for 10 hours and the guy's like i just want

01:59:20.420 to i just want to talk about the football or something it's like you become so cool they want to

01:59:25.300 come and be a part of what you're doing because they look around at society and culture is so dead

01:59:29.460 and so boring and so uninspiring and then there's something inspiring and fun that you're

01:59:35.300 doing that they want to be a part of you attract people in it's way more effective um than trying

01:59:42.100 to plead or or um yeah trying to push something upon for sure when you can attract them when you

01:59:48.180 can attract so that's what we need to develop more as a movement is just more doing more cool

01:59:53.620 shit basically um that's uh just so you know joel i don't have any uh fat ugly friends

01:59:59.940 actually the other day i was like i was getting together with all my girlfriends and i'm like oh

02:00:06.100 my god they all look like models you know when other girls come around they all get like intimidated

02:00:10.980 but i see how effective even that is the way we talk like our lingo and stuff and then when they say

02:00:17.300 like oh another uh there's a beautiful woman and she's talking like that then oh i guess it must be

02:00:22.100 okay and then okay i'm gonna let my hair down and like talk about these things now i i see how that

02:00:27.220 works it seems it seems shallow but that's just human nature it's true i mean i was out drinking

02:00:33.220 the other night in melbourne which was a few months ago i think this the roman salute had already been

02:00:39.220 banned uh it had already been made illegal but i was drunk and it was three o'clock in the morning and

02:00:44.340 so i was just trying to get as many people to do it as possible on the street and um i was going up to

02:00:49.940 girls and the pretty girls would do it and then their ugly friends would get really upset and uh

02:00:55.700 and it was this constant iterative pattern so i definitely believe in uh yeah you you want hot

02:01:02.900 chicks you want you want guys that uh you know that have like a martial quality uh you want guys

02:01:09.700 that women are if you have hot nazi guys then women are like damn i want to become a nazi look at like

02:01:15.540 look at the quality like look at the leftist bros over here with their soy milkshakes or look at i don't

02:01:22.420 really agree about like the whole hitler thing but those guys are kind of cute but he's so hot

02:01:28.260 yeah exactly it makes like that actually makes more of a difference than you're explaining about

02:01:34.740 how if you know but oh but race and iq and like read this book called the bell curve or something

02:01:40.580 immediately it's just crickets you know for a lot of people so that's something that we need to we're

02:01:45.620 working on it something that we need to keep developing because um like we have to show people

02:01:51.380 why the white race is uh worth fighting for in the first place like why you should actually love your

02:01:58.820 people you have to become lovable um so so that's also also i think online activism a lot of people you

02:02:06.900 know a lot of people just stay on online and so often tom has to come on and be like you can't just be

02:02:12.740 on the computer or on your phone you have to actually meet people and form communities and

02:02:18.420 that's an important message but the reverse message is also important there's a lot of people i notice

02:02:22.820 on twitter for example who they'll like all my tweets and then i click on their profile and their

02:02:29.140 profile is just retweeting things and liking things they never actually say anything uh that's not

02:02:36.420 actually helpful you're basically just a consumer you're a passive consumer like it isn't actually

02:02:42.260 that difficult to join cacophonies in replies in comment sections to amplify certain forms of

02:02:49.300 messaging um we're creating a discourse with the system like the online discourse does actually create

02:02:55.300 a discourse with powerful elements um constantly harassing conservatives uh calling them traitors

02:03:01.620 calling them cucks and so on because they are they're too weak on immigration or uh you know constantly

02:03:08.100 talking about the jewish question or whatever like whatever hot button issue generating controversy

02:03:13.940 amplifying certain messaging causes these people to respond uh maybe the conservatives start having a

02:03:19.620 little bit more edgy messaging and trying to include the talking points or um maybe there's just people

02:03:24.660 that are reading the replies and and you're delegitimizing these they thought that these guys were really

02:03:30.100 based in right wing and then they see all the replies uh telling them off for being way

02:03:35.140 insufficiently right wing and that kind of expands their consciousness on on you know what's possible

02:03:40.340 to think politically and the same with leftists like if you can get if we can get the system to you know

02:03:45.940 what uh tom's organization our organization has done very effectively is we've forced the system and the media

02:03:54.740 and so on to constantly talk about us to the point now where it's like a brand like in australia millions of people

02:04:01.140 know who we are if we show up in uniform on a street with the banner out they know who we are

02:04:08.420 you know when we walk past and that's potent that creates an actual personalized expression of the idea

02:04:16.580 it isn't just like an abstract idea it becomes a group of people um and that and that changes how

02:04:23.220 people interpret things psychologically and you know i've been out with the boys on marches and

02:04:28.500 the majority of the public uh saying things that are supportive as opposed well you and it's like

02:04:37.460 everyone knows it's neo-nazis in like walking in balaclavas down a street uh this is like pretty like

02:04:44.660 radical stuff like even by the standards of the dissident right it's one of the most radical organizations

02:04:49.700 most radical optics in the world yet a bunch of normal people are like fuck yeah because they can see

02:04:56.500 that that's there's nothing else that has got the balls to really provide a public demonstrable

02:05:02.660 serious opposition to what is happening and they know that's just like the average person knows that

02:05:07.940 things are seriously fucked up and if the only people standing up against it are nazis they'll clap

02:05:13.300 and cheer for the nazis so all right we'll have to keep an eye on australia and what you guys are doing

02:05:20.180 you have to tell us about i know you guys have a show that you do together let us know all that

02:05:24.500 information people want to go check you guys out yeah just follow me on rumble uh my channel is joel

02:05:32.420 davis um rumble.com joel davis and i stream we stream every week on australian politics but we talk

02:05:40.340 we don't always just talk about australian politics we talk about general ideas uh the show generally is

02:05:46.260 is was originally myself and blair cottrell who's another um prominent australian nationalist uh

02:05:54.180 but tom comes on almost every week so it's kind of like the joel blair and tom show but sometimes

02:05:59.300 one of them can't make it and so it's just me and one of them as opposed to both of them i see blair

02:06:03.780 blair is still banned from twitter as well from x i saw you guys were um um hammering eon there

02:06:10.020 like what's up and tom just got banned a week ago yeah look at that yeah elon musk celebrated

02:06:15.380 x's win over australia's censorship uh today is a victory for free speech but many aussie nationalists

02:06:20.820 including blair cottrell remain banned right and he was never told what why he got suspended so well he's

02:06:27.540 been banned since 2018. he's since the musk takeover he hasn't he's appealed never been reinstated over

02:06:34.500 and over again they won't reinstate him they won't say why they won't even identify what the original

02:06:39.140 tweet was it was probably because the government asked for him to be banned that's probably why

02:06:44.580 uh but yeah they want to he wants to go on twitter and be like oh x is the only free speech platform and

02:06:49.780 we're standing up to the australian government but blair's banned tom's banned now as well yeah

02:06:56.180 jerry taylor american renaissance hasn't brought him back david duke he's not brought back yeah

02:07:00.180 there's there's a list yeah mark collett um and the other patriotic alternative people they're all

02:07:06.340 banned um elon musk was like oh it's horrible that sam milia has gone to jail for stickers that's

02:07:11.700 abhorrent but he won't unban his twitter account what is going on he's a hypocrite yeah geez all right

02:07:18.660 tom is anything else you want to say before we let you guys go because i know we can talk for hours

02:07:22.980 we could talk for hours so i'll let you guys go but on the twitter subject i think the last video

02:07:28.180 i did i put up a post talking about how i can't fight in the shadows i just not how i'm built i

02:07:34.500 have to fight in the light and it's interesting because uh musk put up something about how these

02:07:40.580 neo-nazis and these radical elements we shouldn't have them in the shadows we should have them in the

02:07:44.900 light we should give them free speech because you know it's uh it's important for society to be able

02:07:49.540 to see what they have to say and then ridicule them for how crazy and insane they are and then

02:07:54.580 they say these you know these centered people trying to keep the ship together or keep the

02:07:58.980 the fulcrum together they say these things but they don't deliver because they're actually very

02:08:03.780 afraid of the public hearing what we have to say because when the public hears what we have to say

02:08:08.580 even though there are some pretty full-on outcomes from what we have to say they inherently

02:08:15.380 recognize its sensibility it's we are just a return of common sense the way the conservatives

02:08:22.180 talk about it we're the actual version of common sense like the common sense is we don't want

02:08:26.100 australia to turn into india so obviously how we go about that is you know pretty full-on but the

02:08:32.260 common sense is we don't want australia to turn into india and everyone's on board with that except the

02:08:36.900 one percent communist jew freaks so yeah i want to be in the light i want to be in the light i want to

02:08:43.620 um you know not because i want the spotlight on me but i i just i think there's something important

02:08:48.020 that some of us have to say and i have the energy and uh i have the fire so i want to be in the light

02:08:53.780 and they're they're keeping a lot of us in the shadows like blair and myself and maybe joel might

02:08:58.260 suffer in the future i want joel to be very careful he's um he's he's surfing the kali yuga like me and

02:09:03.860 uh you know you say the wrong thing or you draw the wrong attention and they'll strike you down

02:09:09.060 um but yeah at the moment i'm i'm operating the shadows and i don't i don't mind that in the sense that

02:09:13.300 maybe i need to take a break from social media and work on the organization more and build its

02:09:17.700 build its uh strength in other ways rather than just the spotlight so yeah certainly i just trust

02:09:25.060 i you know i don't want to sound like a q and on but i just trust the plan i trust god uh i believe

02:09:29.460 that all of this is just unlocking and unfolding our future and uh if that's you know you just got

02:09:34.900 to roll with the punches that's what i said when we came on the show seven months in jail it is what

02:09:38.660 it is censored on telegram it is what it is bank account shut down it is what it is so many people

02:09:43.620 are paralyzed by fear they're like oh but if i get involved oh but if i do this oh but then this will

02:09:48.820 happen it's like yeah and then and then and then this will happen and then and then like it's it's

02:09:55.060 it's overcome or die it's just overcome or die and that's that's all i have to say overcome or die

02:10:01.700 like so we just die when all these people put up all these roadblocks for me like oh i'd like to get

02:10:06.100 involved or i'd like to do something but i'm worried about this it's like so just die just

02:10:09.780 why don't you just kill yourself why don't you just die because what you're just living for

02:10:12.980 hedonism now you're just like oh i like my comforts i'll just stay alive for my comforts i don't care

02:10:16.980 that society's going down the drain i don't care that my grandsons won't actually be able to have

02:10:21.140 the comforts i have i'll get the comforts and i'm just i just think to myself that's so philosophically

02:10:25.780 and it's usually older men that say this not younger men most young guys i meet yeah most young men

02:10:31.780 that i meet they haven't had a spirit crushed yet they haven't had their they haven't been

02:10:35.140 demoralized by the forces of the the modern world and they still they're still true to their nature

02:10:41.460 like like society's effed up my teachers are all wrong you know i'm gonna say faggot because i hate

02:10:49.220 faggots you know whatever it is like they've still got some spirit left in them and and i think we should

02:10:53.620 we should it's like a it's like a aryan barbarian and we should cultivate that i don't think we should

02:10:59.140 neuter the the barbarian nature of the white man oh absolutely and i think it has been neutered

02:11:06.820 it already has been neutered we need to reawaken yes and part of that is the kids too much too many

02:11:11.540 white bitches we've got so many white bitches that's why we're in the position we're in right

02:11:15.380 now yeah if if even 10 of the white race had my mentality we'd be running the fucking world i think

02:11:22.660 that they're yeah i think there are a lot of guys that do have your mentality they just have it quietly

02:11:27.540 but when they get together with other bros you know they they talk that way i mean we have to

02:11:33.380 summon the strength we have to summon the strength and that's why children is important guys you got

02:11:39.060 to raise those kids to have that fire to know these things to combat these things and not crush their

02:11:44.260 souls so that they're you know future warriors i mean we're raising the next generations this is

02:11:48.740 probably going to be a long war you know we need to be warriors ourselves yeah of course our children

02:11:54.260 look up to us yeah our children our children look at us and if we're a coward there's a strong

02:11:59.380 chance that our sons are going to be cowards yes we don't need our sons i'll leave it there because

02:12:04.660 we'll talk all day yeah we need some vikings and shield maidens but thank you guys so much

02:12:08.260 appreciate you taking your time we'll have to do it again in the future thanks so much thank you

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Red Ice TV - June 14, 2024

Nationalism For White People & Activist Persecution in Australia - Joel Davis & Thomas Sewell

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