Red Ice TV - Please Cancel Dr. Seuss

00:00:00.000 dr seuss books i'm sure many of you know i grew up reading dr seuss books and i still have several

00:00:15.060 oh the things you can think turns out it's oh the things you can't think dr seuss so it turns out

00:00:20.720 the publisher will not be publishing several of his books anymore because it's basically because

00:00:25.740 it showed brown black and asian people so leftists are celebrating basically essentially this

00:00:31.840 cancellation this book burning really even though it's the publisher they're burning their own books 0.93

00:00:36.280 but here's the thing dr seuss isn't the horrible racist white supremacist that they think he is

00:00:44.640 turns out dr seuss was uh friendly to communism when you look a little deeper he hated nationalists he 0.95

00:00:51.540 hated mussolini he hated hitler he was against jim crow and he even railed against we'll show later

00:00:57.540 a little comic because he did a little political comics before writing children's books it was even

00:01:02.240 against the idea of america first and tied that made that association with nazism what do you think

00:01:07.740 about all this well yeah i mean initially it's like you know the conservatives are are jumping on this

00:01:12.560 and they're like oh my god another person being canceled and stuff like that and then you think

00:01:16.740 okay well there's got to be you know it's it's traditional traditional there's someone that's

00:01:21.760 come maybe not upholding values but you know these are children's books it's been part of at least

00:01:26.140 american life for for a few decades now so automatically the conservatives have to kind of jump to to

00:01:31.660 like try to rescue that or at least uh speak up against the cancellation of the less but that left but

00:01:37.060 then you find out you look a bit deeper it's like oh actually he's a guy what i'm saying is just

00:01:42.740 because the left wants to ban this guy doesn't mean that he's based right it doesn't mean that

00:01:46.820 he has anything to come with in fact it's actually he would be a progressive anti-white globalist

00:01:51.340 yeah exactly but also the fact that someone like this who had a mentality that he'd and not every

00:01:56.940 book as far as i understand it we i mean we have a couple not every book is political not everything

00:02:01.420 goes into that but there were some books that he did you know do and and you know as you said that

00:02:06.800 he spoke up against uh you know the you know america first nationalism and these kinds of things

00:02:12.700 and uh railed on on other leaders that looked after their countries and stuff like that obviously

00:02:16.880 right but uh the the item here though which i think is interesting uh is that he has he has been

00:02:24.980 partially one of the guys helped to create the environment that we now are in which means that

00:02:29.640 you're the left are now burning his books right so he was he was one of them essentially but to them

00:02:34.720 that's not good enough why because he depicted people in the wrong way that's the only reason

00:02:39.380 he just showed them in a stereotypical way the other thing that's really ignorant about this is

00:02:44.300 a lot of people in in the way he did some of the drawings like that's just his style you'll see he

00:02:49.340 draws white people in this weird kind of style i mean he railed against white people plenty by the

00:02:54.160 way they won't say that in his political uh comics before doing kids books and stuff but it's just a

00:02:59.960 style that he had but oh my god there's a brown person or a black person therefore 0.99

00:03:04.100 uh it's racist here's one example of how he compared look at that america first is is nazism

00:03:10.980 right so you know yeah the great u.s sideshow and it says underneath and on this platform folks

00:03:16.840 those most perplexing people he's talking about i guess nationalists then the lads with the siamese

00:03:22.700 beards unrelated by blood well that's not true a lot of americans actually have german blood

00:03:27.200 um they are joined in a manner that mystifies the mightiest minds in the land so nazism and

00:03:34.760 america first was apparently the same thing yeah so it turns out nazis basically not the cool uh

00:03:40.420 kids author that i thought he was so it has brought that to my attention and i probably won't be reading

00:03:45.580 any more of those books either but not for the same reason that these progressives actually last

00:03:49.860 night the the same day that idahoans were burning masks they were actually leftists in san diego were 0.79

00:03:55.340 actually burning dr seuss books yeah and then while the while all the while they were crying about

00:04:00.600 book burnings and all this stuff you know turns out dr seuss would have been one of you if he were

00:04:05.540 here today we can burn books now it's it's totally fine uh so speaking of this check this out and again

00:04:10.120 these liberals they're very very aware even of the things and she mentions that the reporter here of

00:04:14.600 uh well he spoke up against america first a lot of the things that we've seen under trump and stuff

00:04:19.960 so what but the the woman being interviewed doesn't care about that it doesn't matter if you 0.99

00:04:25.160 as much as what was he greek or what's his ethnicity obviously he looks white right so he's a white guy

00:04:30.700 um dr seuss is white guy so how dare he just portray a little chinese boy uh with a chip with a

00:04:37.640 traditional chinese hat and chopsticks right that was that's that's the crime anyway look at this uh clip

00:04:42.480 here okay well let's show you the sorts of images we are talking about again dr seuss enterprises uh

00:04:47.380 making this decision this is from one of the books that will no longer be published called if i

00:04:52.040 ran the zoo the crime look at the crime caris ranger boba it's a long time and wrote an op-ed for

00:04:59.680 the atlanta journal constitution called why schools should rethink dr seuss and you were just so thoughtful

00:05:04.480 about this and i know there's this tendency to sort of you know it's either cancel culture or it isn't

00:05:09.180 and and you you've just been so careful about it you talk about how you received sure

00:05:13.380 she's been so nuanced soon to be born you thought it'd be a great addition to his book collection

00:05:18.140 i mean i even remember how how my mother who who was not into dr seuss frankly at all but when i

00:05:23.220 graduated i got the book everybody got right the oh the places you'll go right and and i know that's

00:05:29.220 not one of them differently though about about that gift is that not dr seuss oh the places you'll go

00:05:34.860 is not a book i do so i think there's a lot of learning that's taking place and a lot of awareness

00:05:39.820 that is uh happening i wasn't as aware seven years ago when i had my son about the racist images in

00:05:47.720 a lot of dr seuss's children's books but now that i've become more informed i think that it's worth

00:05:54.180 thinking through a little bit more and maybe moving towards books that are more inclusive

00:05:58.960 and more diverse there are just so many other options that do exactly what dr seuss books have

00:06:04.920 done um that aren't seeped in racist stereotypes and so write your own i always love when they bring

00:06:11.580 out this well i think we have a lot of learning to do and a lot of education and he was like okay

00:06:17.020 like basically liberal brainwashing and then now we're we're progressing by just like hanging out one of

00:06:22.300 the classic authors to drive and again dr seuss getting canceled now i'm like okay well good you

00:06:28.360 like you do it do it right but i want to listen a little bit more so all the places you'll go is is

00:06:33.300 a book i figured i mean i'm not saying that they don't never are wrong it has rainbows in it oh my

00:06:38.760 god always are are wrong on cnn but uh you know anyway okay let's continue we can use those and help

00:06:45.520 all children feel included so the six books that are no longer going to be so just wait a minute

00:06:51.180 so just because dr seuss what three decades ago depicted a chinese boy in china about a chinese

00:06:59.680 story chinese people chinese boys who are in america today would do not feel included and well

00:07:05.220 wait a minute he's he brought those very cultures into the concept and the and the pool of american

00:07:10.760 literature but you see that's not good enough now yes because they can't be betrayed in a certain

00:07:15.100 way multiculturalism exactly that was just it right those who know dr seuss well on beyond zebra

00:07:21.920 the cat's quizzer uh and to think that i saw it on mulberry street which has an image of an asian

00:07:27.620 character raising a uh wearing i'm sorry a clinical hat this this is uh holding chopsticks we're looking

00:07:33.420 at the cat in the hat um some are going to say these books could be used to teach about racism

00:07:38.460 that the whole point would be you know you show a young child this and explain why why it is racist

00:07:43.780 why this isn't how about we do this with white response to that books that depict white people

00:07:47.780 so i think there's a time and a place for having those discussions and i think it is important for

00:07:52.580 children to become aware of um our history and of uh some of our racist past yes we need to learn

00:07:58.920 about uh uh basically that uh all blacks were victims and the whites were bad yeah and slavery okay

00:08:05.100 gotcha but when children are learning to read and um are beginning their love of literature i think

00:08:11.220 what's more important is that they see themselves reflected in the stories that they're reading

00:08:16.000 except for white kids but that's just what he did as far as i understand it he he depicted foreign and

00:08:21.940 different diverse people yeah they're traveling they're meeting different characters and oh there's

00:08:26.720 an african or there's an asian i guess it's to to imply that they were they were different that's

00:08:30.780 to crime right but they're but they're always different gonna make these people exactly that's

00:08:34.240 just it whatever you do you can never wait you have to watch your knees just confused you need 0.99

00:08:39.400 their approval before you depict anyone of their race but they can shit all over our race and depict 0.97

00:08:44.440 us in all the worst possible ways i think she brings up the america first let me listen a little 0.67

00:08:48.840 bit more here i think to build their self-confidence and their self-worth um by seeing experiences and

00:08:54.560 stories that tell what they have seen and their experiences and there's a place for um critical

00:09:01.080 analysis of dr seuss's work um by no means do i think that books should be banned i'm a former

00:09:07.480 english teacher i believe in literature and the power of books but there's a place that we can have

00:09:12.920 those discussions and look at dr seuss in a critical we get banned for having these discussions

00:09:18.340 but when i'm thinking about my six-year-old son in first grade um or my daughter in preschool i want

00:09:24.340 them to see books that reflect them i want them to know that their stories are important and that

00:09:31.220 diversity and no one is stopping you from having those books no one ever if you don't want to buy

00:09:35.680 those books you don't have to no one is forcing you to buy those books just don't buy those books

00:09:40.360 buy books where kids look like you do that's fine does the lady in red say anything yeah i think

00:09:46.040 dr seuss i think she does that i don't want them to see themselves reflected as monkeys and an apes

00:09:52.360 from africa i don't think okay so basically the monkey he wasn't thinking like oh there's a monkey

00:09:58.080 it's more indicative of what her mind is oh there was a monkey in the book okay he's obviously talking

00:10:03.160 about black people i mean all right lady sure wow so so you know it was interesting i was reading a

00:10:08.300 book review about um a book about dr seuss today and i learned something i did not know caris i

00:10:14.380 realized how politically aware and motivated he was in a lot of his work frankly um so in the

00:10:19.400 introduction to a book about dr seuss um his work during world war ii art spiegelman you know who

00:10:24.900 wrote uh mouse right um explains how seuss's work and this is interesting he writes quote would rail

00:10:30.120 against isolationalism racism and anti-semitism with a conviction and fervor lacking in most other

00:10:36.340 american editorial pages of the period um he says seuss railed against jim crow charles lindbergh 0.92

00:10:42.180 and the america just rail against charles lindbergh holy crap you can have him frankly

00:10:47.080 which of course has such an echo of what yeah there was right there sorry i talked right over

00:10:50.420 dude she mentioned america first there's lindbergh and the america first policy which of course has

00:10:55.040 such an echo of what what we've seen now in this country um how dare we care about our country

00:11:00.000 first america last how dare we care about america first it's nazis these people think it's nazis

00:11:05.900 so did dr seuss so whatever you guys can have each other yeah good ban him then i don't care

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Red Ice TV - March 10, 2021

Please Cancel Dr. Seuss

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