Red Ice TV - Remigration, Nationalism & The Turning Tide In England & UK - Steve Laws

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00:05:14.000 And welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:05:36.040 Thank you for joining us here at RedEyes.

00:05:37.740 It's good to be back with you once again.

00:05:39.820 I am Henrik, and it is Wednesday.

00:05:41.920 It's Woden's Day.

00:05:42.780 It's the 3rd of September, 2025.

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00:05:48.840 And today, we are going to continue our coverage on what's going on in England, Wales, Scotland, the wider UK at all.

00:05:55.620 Overall, it's very good trends.

00:05:57.820 We're seeing some great advancements for nationalists for the issue of remigration.

00:06:02.160 It is being launched, I think, into the mainstream in a way that we've never seen before.

00:06:07.300 We have protests in the UK outside of these migrant hotels.

00:06:10.860 We have the Operation Race, the banner, very simplistic stuff in a way, right, in terms of organization.

00:06:16.580 But such a powerful and simple way to actually do it.

00:06:20.280 And also, at the same time, obviously, to kind of antagonize the opposition, really, where the English flag, or in some cases, the Union Jack as well, is now seen as a big problematic symbol.

00:06:32.760 They have to reveal their hands, let them play their cards early, and tell us how much they hate us.

00:06:37.760 Now, that's not news to us, but it might be news to the wider public out there.

00:06:41.320 And, of course, part of this job, part of the task is to, yes, partially get them on our side and create massive movements that can create this boiling point pressure, you know, from bottom up, essentially.

00:06:54.560 That's, there's many other strategies, but that's certainly a very, very good one to just show a, some resistance, show some force in terms of how bad it is in the UK right now.

00:07:05.940 So, with us to talk about this and some of these trends and everything that's going on is Steve Loss, who's joining us back on the show, one of the bigger accounts in the UK who have been pushing the re-migration issue for years now.

00:07:18.940 Steve, how are you? Thank you for joining us again.

00:07:20.760 I'm all good, thank you. Thank you for having me on. It's been a while, so I do appreciate it.

00:07:26.020 And, like you say, we've got a lot to talk about what's going on in the UK.

00:07:28.920 Man, it's been popping off. Crazy.

00:07:31.680 What do you know about Operation Race to Colors?

00:07:33.580 I'm not sure who initiated. Was it Paul Golding, partially, that was part of that and some other guys as well?

00:07:39.680 So, no, it was more, it was more just some unknown activists that got together and they started putting flags up around their local area.

00:07:46.400 It sort of grew and it's almost like the perfect protest because to counter this protest, you're seen as anti-English, anti-British and you're against our way of life and our flag and so on.

00:07:55.880 And it's so easy for people to support as well because any normal person can go out and they can paint a roundabout or they can put a flag outside their window or on a lamppost.

00:08:05.600 And it's really easy to get involved in. It's a great entry point to nationalism.

00:08:08.640 And it is bringing people over to our side as well. So, people in local communities, they see all the flags up and down the street, they get excited.

00:08:17.060 They're like, all the flags have been to our town.

00:08:19.880 So, it's not really so much that there was, there was a small group that started it and then it branched outwards and it got bigger and bigger.

00:08:26.680 Now, obviously, all sorts of people are trying to get involved in it and there are some people trying to like subvert it.

00:08:32.740 But overall, it's like the perfect protest in a way. It's like an entry point to nationalism.

00:08:37.860 Yeah, we should not let perfect be an enemy of good and this is a good start, right?

00:08:44.580 Because this is not going to slow down. I mean, let's just kind of analyze that a little bit.

00:08:48.580 This is not, it's not that there's going to be a few protests and then this is going to go away and in a weird way.

00:08:54.380 I hate to be the guy and I mention this all the time, but to kind of like, well, you know, the worse it gets.

00:08:58.760 But it is partially true, right, that if you did have a government right now in the UK, and there's been some signs of this, right?

00:09:05.940 But they're like, they wanted to placate and, you know, they've kind of done this with the protests outside of the migrant hotels.

00:09:11.160 And now they're like, well, we're going to kind of do away with the migrant hotels. 1.00

00:09:15.440 But then the thing in Epping happened with the judge there. We'll get to that.

00:09:18.640 But then, you know, cover it up, placate them, make them just go back to sleep again type of thing, right?

00:09:24.060 And it's actually good when you see a Yvette Cooper standing in the House of Commons again and just continue to push for more migration, more benefits, more stuff, because it does enrage the British people.

00:09:36.280 It does enrage the native British population.

00:09:38.540 And at this point, it's kind of like you kind of have to do that of sorts.

00:09:42.640 It's like the line in the sand has been drawn.

00:09:45.320 Either you fight for your country or you don't.

00:09:47.860 And that's really what this comes down to, Steve, right?

00:09:50.460 Well, this is exactly it.

00:09:53.340 We've got a government that's openly hostile towards us, which very much does help in terms of recruitment and getting people inside for our message.

00:09:59.920 But what we've been doing recently in the UK, and I'm assuming other nationalists have throughout Europe and so on, is we've been planting our flag in the sand.

00:10:07.320 Whereas the days gone by, people would go, OK, we've got to try and appeal to Joe Public.

00:10:11.280 We've got to try and appeal to the middle ground.

00:10:13.580 We've got to try and sort of meet them halfway.

00:10:15.680 Whereas we've just decided now we're putting our flag in the sand.

00:10:18.880 This is where we stand.

00:10:19.720 This is what we want.

00:10:20.820 And we're not moving from that position.

00:10:22.900 And everyone, even politicians, think tanks, normal people, people in the media, they're all moving towards it, all moving towards a position of remigration. 0.84

00:10:32.100 Sure, they're not all where we want them to be.

00:10:34.240 But this stance that we're taking now is very much a lot more effective.

00:10:39.460 And with the government that we've got, a Labour government that are openly open borders, they're throwing people in prison for tweets and all sorts of so-called hate crimes and so on.

00:10:49.720 So with all of this tied together with us planting our flag in the sand, it's creating a natural progression where, as you can see, there's consistent protests outside migrants, hotels, there's people getting active in the streets, there's new groups and organizations forming all over the country.

00:11:06.080 But there's a lot happening.

00:11:08.420 You might not all see it all in the media and so on, but there is a lot happening in terms of nationalism.

00:11:12.560 We are gaining an awful lot of ground.

00:11:14.360 And we're being welcomed in circles that we would never normally be welcomed in.

00:11:17.660 Yes, exactly.

00:11:18.940 And the pressure for kind of more normie-leaning even, I mean, I kind of reluctantly use the word conservative, obviously.

00:11:26.820 And I don't mean the Tories, but like conservative-leaning people, center-leaning right people realize that they have to up the rhetoric.

00:11:37.180 They have to keep up with these trends.

00:11:38.940 They have to somehow start addressing these issues or they kind of, I think they feel, they sense it in the air that they're going to be left behind, right, if they don't address this properly.

00:11:48.140 Because there is other voices going to pop up.

00:11:50.940 You know, we could talk more about Lowe.

00:11:53.880 Is it Rupert Lowe, for example?

00:11:56.280 You know, it's one very good voice that have upped his rhetoric as well.

00:11:59.620 You're seeing it from some other people.

00:12:02.220 And it's kind of weird because they counter-signal ethno-nationalists at the same time as they pick up their issues and their talking points to a certain degree.

00:12:13.300 But they have like limited themselves to a very kind of narrow corridor of like what they consider to be acceptable or whatnot.

00:12:18.920 Like here but no further.

00:12:20.840 But regardless, what that shows, Steve, is that it's moving in our direction.

00:12:24.100 They have to respond to it.

00:12:25.380 Maybe they would try to derail it or get ahead of it so they can steer it the way that they want.

00:12:30.000 But it means that they are on the defensive and we are actually running or kind of dictating.

00:12:34.660 I say we, but I mean like overall, like just the general public that are concerned with these matters are dictating the direction, right?

00:12:43.400 Well, this is the thing.

00:12:44.440 We're controlling the narrative now and all of these people are playing catch-up.

00:12:48.180 They have no choice but to, as you said, if they don't play catch-up, they get left behind.

00:12:52.380 The only issue of the day is remigration, mass deportation, whatever you want to call it.

00:12:57.260 That's the only issue that matters to people.

00:12:59.740 Everyone knows what's at stake.

00:13:01.500 Everyone knows what needs to be done and everyone knows what direction we need to get to.

00:13:05.200 Some people are still uncomfortable about going to that full position and some people are still on a journey.

00:13:11.500 But the winds are moving in that direction very fast.

00:13:14.080 With Rupert Lowe, he's one of the only people that has kind of adopted our talking points who, to be fair to him, isn't even really watering him down that much no more.

00:13:23.480 He was at first, but now he's not really.

00:13:25.460 But he's never countered us.

00:13:26.660 He's never punched right towards us guys or anything like that.

00:13:29.300 He understands that.

00:13:30.720 He's one of these people that understands that we have a role and we drag it to the right.

00:13:35.500 And people like Rupert Lowe should be coming into that void and saying, right, this is what the people want.

00:13:40.820 I'm going to deliver that.

00:13:42.300 So it's a snowball effect.

00:13:44.500 The snowball is getting bigger.

00:13:45.860 And I'm a lot more confident than I was last time we spoke even a year ago.

00:13:49.680 Yeah.

00:13:50.680 I'm just on how much ground we've gained.

00:13:52.760 To have politicians calling for mass deportations now, we would never have dreamed of that a year ago.

00:13:57.940 That's correct.

00:13:58.600 Exactly.

00:13:58.940 Yeah, so Lowe has been pretty good, but this guy countersignaled some ethno-nationalists.

00:14:05.380 Now, is this the new UKIP leader, Nick?

00:14:08.920 Yeah.

00:14:09.560 Tenokki? 0.56

00:14:11.600 Tenkoni. 0.93

00:14:12.500 Tenkoni. 0.93

00:14:13.020 That's right.

00:14:13.300 Tenkoni. 0.93

00:14:14.020 Should we listen to what he said here and you can reply to it?

00:14:16.120 It's only 30 seconds.

00:14:17.160 Let's listen to this here.

00:14:18.260 Say what he said about ethno-nationalists.

00:14:20.420 I don't see skin color.

00:14:21.460 I don't care about that.

00:14:22.340 I care about your political ideology.

00:14:23.940 I care about your religion and personal hygiene.

00:14:25.760 That's what happens when you're an ethno-nationalist, want this beautiful human being gone, not because

00:14:31.880 of our ideology, not because of the blood running blue, but because of our skin color.

00:14:36.980 These vile human beings, these extremists, we are now in the fight back against the rise

00:14:42.860 of these ethno-nationalists and the actual goose-stepping neo-Nazis as well, which do exist.

00:14:49.920 So, he's doing the James Lindsay pivot here, I guess, of trying to counter-signal the quote-unquote

00:14:56.480 woke right or something.

00:14:57.580 I mean, he didn't use those terms, but that's basically what he's doing.

00:14:59.980 So, again, he's like, no, no, I saw him reply to you, right, because you called him out on

00:15:03.420 this.

00:15:03.640 Let's see if I have the tweet here.

00:15:05.220 You call him.

00:15:05.580 Yeah, okay.

00:15:06.200 This is the one he did reply to.

00:15:08.280 And he said, that's what to say.

00:15:10.620 I will always call out what is wrong. 0.94

00:15:12.680 Ethnats like you calling for total remigration is an absolute disgrace.

00:15:16.420 Remigration, yes. 0.98

00:15:19.660 Total remigration, absolutely not.

00:15:22.240 Okay, well, who are I going to set your terms?

00:15:24.740 Where is the line?

00:15:25.380 Where is the line?

00:15:26.380 Exactly.

00:15:26.860 Like, either it's the country of the British people, the white native population of Britain,

00:15:31.640 it's their islands, they built it to what it is, or is it not?

00:15:35.760 And if you start kind of moving, you know, the point is, too, the mentality must be, no,

00:15:42.040 it's ours, we're taking it back.

00:15:43.860 Like, and if you say, well, here was a good one, you know, I was like, okay, so what?

00:15:49.600 It's like, that doesn't matter.

00:15:51.300 It's our countries as Europeans, your countries, but like our countries as Europeans, right?

00:15:56.340 And that's the mentality of the bit.

00:15:58.020 All he had to do was to say nothing.

00:16:00.720 And why don't they just do, just, if you don't agree with, just leave it alone and use

00:16:04.520 the momentum.

00:16:05.000 But they seem unable to, Steve. 0.90

00:16:06.940 Well, this is the thing, he's desperate to show this black African woman that he's not 1.00

00:16:14.060 racist, he's not the bad guy, and he's on our side. 0.98

00:16:16.700 But that's a foreigner. 1.00

00:16:18.420 That's someone who should not be in Europe, let alone in Britain. 0.89

00:16:21.640 And it's like, why are you going against our own people to actively shield for this

00:16:27.240 immigrant?

00:16:27.680 That's one key problem.

00:16:29.160 And then he's calling that ethno-nationalism.

00:16:30.900 There is only one nationalism.

00:16:32.360 It is ethno-nationalism.

00:16:33.820 The fact that we call ourselves ethno-nationalists is only to distance ourselves from that sort

00:16:38.760 of people.

00:16:39.700 And we shouldn't even have to do that at the best of times.

00:16:42.280 But that beside the point, I've asked to have a debate with Nick.

00:16:45.500 I've asked to have a discussion with him.

00:16:47.260 There's a YouTuber called James English.

00:16:49.160 He's got quite a large platform.

00:16:50.840 He was willing to host it.

00:16:52.460 But Nick's gone absolutely silent. 0.76

00:16:53.980 It's okay to sit there, call us vile, call us all sorts of nonsense.

00:16:57.720 But he knows when his argument is put against our argument, it's got no legs to stand on. 0.94

00:17:02.760 Like, he's one of these people that wouldn't mind if we got replaced by Africans as long 1.00

00:17:07.020 as they were all Christian. 1.00

00:17:07.980 It's just ridiculous. 0.98

00:17:08.660 Right, exactly. 0.99

00:17:09.420 He's one of those.

00:17:10.740 You just have to do it slowly, right?

00:17:12.940 You want to integrate them so they become like you.

00:17:16.240 So as they replace you, they're kind of like, well, it just happened to be a British person

00:17:20.260 with the darker skin.

00:17:21.540 That's all.

00:17:22.080 And of course, we all know that none of this works this way.

00:17:25.640 And ultimately, these are the only countries, you know, we have are European countries.

00:17:30.700 There's massive continents for these people where they come from and their homelands and

00:17:35.720 they are still intact.

00:17:36.800 And if they feel uncomfortable with us wanting to restore something that our forebears built,

00:17:42.180 then that's upon them and they're welcome to leave.

00:17:44.500 And I'm sure they'll be let back into their countries. 1.00

00:17:46.400 Well, this is the thing where there is only one England, there is only one Sweden, there 0.92

00:17:51.200 is only one France.

00:17:52.300 And we as Europeans have nowhere else to go.

00:17:55.020 We have no other home.

00:17:56.360 And even if we did, we're not surrendering our homeland to immigrants and to foreigners 1.00

00:18:02.300 who do not belong here.

00:18:03.440 This is our country.

00:18:04.580 We're taking it back.

00:18:05.800 We don't care how much the Sivnats cry. 0.99

00:18:07.960 We don't care how much of the conservative types cry. 0.84

00:18:10.980 We're gaining ground.

00:18:12.300 Our position is the popular one.

00:18:13.780 The youth is on our side.

00:18:15.340 These people are on a time limit.

00:18:17.300 So these people are going to be leaving our country, whether it happens in five years,

00:18:21.460 10 years or 20 years time, they're going.

00:18:23.820 And the younger generations are all with us, give or take 10, 15, 20 percent.

00:18:28.380 Yeah.

00:18:28.800 And that's the mentality.

00:18:29.720 I'm confident.

00:18:30.460 Say the last part again.

00:18:32.680 So I'm confident of the future.

00:18:34.360 I speak to all of these young Zoomers and they're far more radical than me. 1.00

00:18:37.620 If anything, they think I'm the woke one.

00:18:39.420 Yeah.

00:18:40.720 I know exactly.

00:18:41.980 Well, this is what's going.

00:18:42.880 I mean, that's what they're, that's grown up.

00:18:44.300 I showed this, the meme, I guess, but it was like, you know, the Marty McFly.

00:18:50.020 I'll see if I can find it, but it's like, okay, you, because you have, people grow up

00:18:53.620 under different circumstances and this and that is wrong and they just can't go as far.

00:18:57.500 But the reality for the younger people is totally different, right?

00:19:00.440 That's what we've always seen it.

00:19:02.160 And it's like, so you guys not be ready for resistance or remigration, but your kids

00:19:06.760 and your grandkids are going to love it.

00:19:08.740 That's what they're going to ask for.

00:19:10.940 That's what they're going to demand.

00:19:12.880 That's what they want.

00:19:13.900 And that's what they're going to fight for.

00:19:15.340 Because they, as you said, they realize that this is all they have.

00:19:19.060 And we also kind of have to adopt a mentality like that.

00:19:23.520 We can, how many decades have we seen that of setting the bar low in order to try to placate

00:19:30.680 and maybe like win someone over instead of setting the bar high and just speaking the

00:19:36.060 plain truth and being honest about what we want.

00:19:39.740 And then people have to rise to that level, right?

00:19:41.920 Because many of these people, be that a Nick Marconi or Marsoni, whatever his name was,

00:19:47.840 or a Farage even, or Tommy Robinson too.

00:19:52.260 He did the same thing, right?

00:19:53.520 He went on Kissin's trigonometry and he was like, he's taking all the talking points,

00:20:02.920 basically saying, you know, white people are coming to minority.

00:20:05.640 This is awful.

00:20:06.440 We have to discuss these issues in immigration.

00:20:08.680 Otherwise, the ethno-nationalists, the bad people will do it. 0.58

00:20:11.140 But wait a minute.

00:20:11.540 You've been calling us bad all this time for having those views.

00:20:15.940 Now you feel comfortable enough to have these views.

00:20:18.900 So we, you know, people like us and you and so many others have like broken through those

00:20:23.220 walls, just, you know, spearheading, trailblazing this.

00:20:27.000 And they're showing up to a paved walkway with light, you know, lights and park benches and

00:20:32.480 trash bins on it.

00:20:33.600 And they think, look why, you know, I made this and they're totally comfortable now in that

00:20:37.560 environment because someone else like basically, you know, broke that wilderness and was willing

00:20:43.360 to take arrows for it.

00:20:44.500 And they have no recognition.

00:20:45.940 They will fight you all along the way as they adopt your opinions.

00:20:50.040 That's what I'm seeing.

00:20:51.600 Yeah.

00:20:52.140 And this is something I've experienced so much over the years now.

00:20:55.300 So I would say something and then six months later to a year later, I'm seeing these very

00:21:00.600 people that would call me out for something I said, now repeating those talking lines, but

00:21:04.700 there's no acknowledgement that they was wrong or that I was right back then, which I don't

00:21:08.700 care.

00:21:09.020 It's fine because it brings people to our side, but it's just the audacity sometimes.

00:21:13.300 But then when you get people like Tommy Robinson doing it, like it's, you know, it's not genuine.

00:21:17.740 You know, it's because it's a financial grab and you can smell the, the, the wind is changing

00:21:21.960 and he wants to stay on top of the topic.

00:21:24.340 So he's just doing it for a financial grab, which frustrates me even more because it's fine

00:21:29.340 if you don't understand the situation and you're not quite there because you haven't got

00:21:32.620 the information available to you or you've just buried your head in the sand or so on.

00:21:36.600 But when you're actively doing it to, for one, like you said, subvert it away from the

00:21:41.420 ethno-nationalists, the people that actually care about this issue.

00:21:44.500 And then there's two to make financial gain of it and three to lead those that follow him

00:21:49.240 to a path that doesn't get to the solution.

00:21:51.700 That's far worse than anything else.

00:21:53.900 That's, that's what frustrates me the most about him.

00:21:56.060 That's the main reason I want to have a discussion with Tommy to show that his ideas are actual

00:22:00.660 complete nonsense.

00:22:01.620 He doesn't stand for anything.

00:22:03.240 No.

00:22:03.480 People might stop listening to it.

00:22:04.880 That's my main priority to have a conversation. 1.00

00:22:07.380 Otherwise I don't care because he's a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:22:09.380 Yes. 1.00

00:22:09.820 Sorry for swearing.

00:22:10.540 No, no, no.

00:22:11.220 You're, you're totally fine.

00:22:12.260 That's okay around these parts.

00:22:14.000 Uh, so yeah, I mean, exactly.

00:22:15.560 He has to address it.

00:22:17.780 He has to come to these, these issues.

00:22:20.160 And actually in this case, rare win for kissing here in the interview, but it's like, well,

00:22:24.020 wait a minute.

00:22:24.480 It kind of sounds like you're just saying what they're saying.

00:22:26.960 And it's like, well, yeah, but they're, you know, they're Nazis or something and they're,

00:22:31.040 they're bad, but, but why?

00:22:33.020 Because they want their countries back. 0.97

00:22:34.580 This is so ridiculous, but it shows you that, that their, their attempt is to, to placate. 0.65

00:22:40.100 We got this and, you know, a Tommy will go on and he will link, you know, uh, British 0.99

00:22:45.600 nationalism with, I don't know, Zionism or Jewish ethnic interest or something.

00:22:49.960 And like, kind of, yeah, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's, you know, the British Israelite thing

00:22:54.320 together, you know, in this battle against just the Muslims, you know, kind of thing.

00:22:58.460 Well, well, well, who let them in? 0.87

00:23:00.060 How did this happen?

00:23:00.920 What, what, what, what about the wars that started all this?

00:23:04.000 And, you know, there's so many questions here, which he just, we know, I'm not trying

00:23:07.480 to, you know, I, both of you and me know what's going on here, but I'm saying, you

00:23:11.480 know, to the wider audience, they don't get exposed to some of this stuff.

00:23:14.180 Like, wait a minute, none of this makes sense.

00:23:16.220 We have a rational, reasonable and 100%, uh, you know, understandable position that you

00:23:23.280 can back with the truth and you can back it with, with pointing out what actually is

00:23:27.960 happening, who's behind some of these things.

00:23:30.000 Uh, and, and it's constantly, these guys then have to continue to waver and flux on their

00:23:34.860 positions.

00:23:35.340 We've never really, I mean, when we arrived to them, we've mostly, maybe adjustments a

00:23:40.480 little bit here in their tweaks, but the main broad issues have been like, this is what

00:23:44.460 we want.

00:23:45.120 We're moving forward on this.

00:23:46.980 And we've been firm on those issues for years now, some people for decades, you know what

00:23:50.940 I mean?

00:23:51.380 And it's these guys that constantly have to flip flop and change and appeal and placate

00:23:55.420 and play the game, you know, to try to like divert people and, you know, get ahead of the

00:24:00.320 trends that I can divert it.

00:24:01.600 And it's just super dishonest.

00:24:02.940 But regardless, uh, Steve, I still think these are very positive signs because now they are

00:24:09.740 forced to address it and talk about it on, on, on our terms.

00:24:14.080 Right.

00:24:14.440 Well, this is the main thing.

00:24:17.160 So the fact that despite, despite how much I disagree with the person who's saying it

00:24:21.940 and so on, he's still using our talking points to thousands, if not millions of people who

00:24:27.260 are then going to research these talking points, look into themselves, maybe find other groups

00:24:32.280 and other people that put out this content and so on.

00:24:34.980 And then they will find out more information.

00:24:36.660 And then that could turn that person into a potential future nationalist activist.

00:24:40.080 And so, so it's all a spiral effect.

00:24:41.780 There's, there are, there are benefits to it.

00:24:44.240 Um, and that the fact that they are using our talking point shows we're winning.

00:24:48.460 It shows we are in control of the conversation and it shows that our argument is a strong

00:24:52.040 one because nobody to this day I've seen can defeat an ethno-nationalist from a civic nationalist

00:24:59.000 point of view.

00:24:59.640 It's just not possible because the ethno-nationalist line is the pure and proper one.

00:25:03.880 And the civic nationalist one is basically, it's the same argument of all those people that

00:25:07.980 think a man, a man could be a woman and all of that nonsense, like they're just transnationalist

00:25:12.180 because they will use that same argument that an African could be British.

00:25:16.220 So then they're using the same logic that a man could be a woman. 0.96

00:25:19.060 It's just complete nonsense.

00:25:20.500 And these people need to be called out.

00:25:22.560 Like some people become civic nationalists and then they become ethno-nationalists and

00:25:26.320 so on, and they go down a pipeline.

00:25:27.900 But there's some people that intentionally divert people away and that they're the ones that

00:25:32.780 I have a problem with, but we all know who they are.

00:25:34.940 There's no point listing off all of them.

00:25:36.160 Yeah, no, exactly.

00:25:36.880 No, but that's what's going to happen, you know, when you get close to some of these

00:25:42.380 topics and there's going to people jump in for different reasons and whatnot.

00:25:46.020 But again, the trends are there and it's not going to slow down.

00:25:48.940 That's the point I wanted to make earlier as well.

00:25:50.880 It's just, I don't think it's going to go away one day.

00:25:53.540 This is becoming a permanent, it has been for decades, but I'm saying like it's reaching

00:25:59.780 that boiling point.

00:26:00.760 And you can see this when all the British, just what looked like just normal family people 1.00

00:26:05.940 and men and women and kids are out and just screaming like, save our kids, save our kids

00:26:11.020 on the streets.

00:26:11.820 They're out outside of the hotel in Epping that they reopened again now where this judge

00:26:16.980 decided to reopen it.

00:26:18.300 And they're just sick and fed up with it.

00:26:21.600 Meanwhile, you know, our people can't get any help.

00:26:24.520 They can't get any benefits.

00:26:27.380 I linked up one video.

00:26:28.940 It's a very tragic one.

00:26:30.100 And woman, I don't know her backstory and nothing like that, but it was just like juxtaposing

00:26:33.380 it against like, here's all the migrants with a three course meal buffets that they're posh 1.00

00:26:38.680 buffets every day at these hotels, paid for free, all the, you know, myriad of benefits

00:26:46.300 and, and aid and help and stuff like that.

00:26:49.260 While British people are destitute on the streets, homeless, they have drug problems, maybe mental 0.99

00:26:55.240 problems, and the government have just totally dropped the ball, right?

00:26:59.140 Well, this is the thing, look, I, I don't care how bad some one of our people's lives

00:27:05.560 has been or what situations they're in, as long as they're not a nonce or something like

00:27:08.660 that, I don't care.

00:27:09.960 So our people just need lifting up.

00:27:12.440 This is what really frustrates me when you see all of these videos that I see thousands

00:27:16.280 of them daily of people and like you could walk through town and you see people sleeping

00:27:19.660 in tents and stuff.

00:27:20.600 And it's truly disgusting when you've got migrants being put up into hotels, you've got immigrants 1.00

00:27:25.020 coming over on visas, being able to given money endlessly to start businesses.

00:27:28.800 God knows whatever else they get.

00:27:31.300 And then you see people that are our own people just being left and abandoned by the very government

00:27:36.820 that's meant to be there to protect them.

00:27:38.440 It just, it's truly sickening.

00:27:40.060 Like any other society in any other time in history, this government would not exist.

00:27:46.300 It's like it would be thrown out and so on, but we live in different times and it's just,

00:27:50.900 it's truly, it's truly sickening.

00:27:53.000 Yeah, they are, they are the extremists, right?

00:27:56.120 They try to call us extreme.

00:27:57.120 Like we're literally trying to just restore what is normal and reasonable and what has

00:28:02.220 always been the case in our countries.

00:28:04.020 And we're at this just, I mean, insanely radical, just full on display hatred of our, of our

00:28:13.140 own, you know, from the government authorities point of view of, of their own populations

00:28:16.800 that they're supposed to stand up for.

00:28:18.560 And we're seeking justice, basically justice remedy for this to be fixed or whatever.

00:28:25.660 And as we've seen in the UK, I mean, just total overdrive on hate crime charges, on elite

00:28:33.340 police units now that are just monitoring social media posts.

00:28:37.360 You've seen tons of arrests and, and, you know, the Southport, uh, protest last year, obviously

00:28:42.760 it wasn't the first time that has happened, but that was a real kind of uptick in that.

00:28:46.620 Has there been as much of that this year?

00:28:49.700 I think you just mentioned that, uh, Callum, one of the organizers in Epping, right?

00:28:53.340 He was just, um, arrested for, was it, excuse me, race, racial incitement to racial hatred.

00:28:59.200 I think that the clip said, right?

00:29:00.560 Yeah, that's, that's the charge he was given.

00:29:02.560 And obviously I know Callum personally, he's, he's generally a sound lad and he's been getting

00:29:06.200 his local community to campaign like peacefully against this.

00:29:09.600 And he's been doing it in a way that's been rallying support all over the country, like

00:29:13.360 to the point where he's inspired protests at other hotels in other areas of the country

00:29:17.480 because they've been doing it the right way.

00:29:19.400 And because he's been so effective, the police have gone out their way to go and arrest him.

00:29:24.500 Like he's out of prison now, but he's on bail.

00:29:26.240 But ultimately, um, he did absolutely nothing wrong.

00:29:29.880 You can see him getting arrested now.

00:29:31.240 And, um, liberate England.

00:29:33.140 Is that right?

00:29:33.720 That was his reply.

00:29:34.580 Liberate England. 0.60

00:29:35.460 Yeah.

00:29:36.180 Liberate England. 0.60

00:29:37.060 Like he understood the assignment, but he very much is leading the way and for them

00:29:44.020 to arrest him, that shows that they've got no other option, but then just trying to take

00:29:47.860 the organizer out of the way with, because these protests have affected, but the whole of the

00:29:51.600 country behind them, like the way, the way these protests are being carried out, they

00:29:56.120 even had like all of the women there wearing pink sitting down on the floor and these were 1.00

00:29:59.760 like mothers and stuff like this. 0.99

00:30:02.140 This is how you win support with normal people.

00:30:04.460 Um, it's, uh, it's just the way it has to be done.

00:30:07.040 And because it was working that way, it's almost, it's almost becomes who he's, he's become

00:30:13.000 too much of a problem for the establishment now.

00:30:15.380 So they've just nicked him.

00:30:16.760 Um, but even the leftists turning up in places like Eppin and other hotels before five, three,

00:30:22.800 four years ago, even maybe two years ago, the, they would turn up mob handed and that

00:30:26.940 sometimes they'd even outnumber us or they would, they would just never, they'd never

00:30:31.240 leave. 0.99

00:30:31.620 But now there's so, there's so few of them.

00:30:34.000 There's so many of us.

00:30:34.820 They're just getting chased out of every town they turn up at, like even when they're

00:30:38.400 busted and paid to be there.

00:30:39.680 So we've gained incredible ground this year.

00:30:42.340 There hasn't been riots like there was with Southport last year, but there's been more

00:30:47.900 organized protests and, um, we've definitely, I'd say gained a lot more ground since Southport.

00:30:54.680 Um, if we look at the MPs that we've got inside, the establishment figures we've got inside,

00:30:58.640 obviously you can't trust all of them, but the facts that they're echoing our talking points

00:31:02.440 and they're actively working towards it.

00:31:04.900 Um, that's a good sign of ICS.

00:31:07.640 Absolutely.

00:31:08.220 What happened with the, uh, did you follow that?

00:31:10.900 And again, it's kind of into the weeds, I guess, of sorts.

00:31:14.300 It doesn't really matter.

00:31:15.080 We're going to keep our eye on, on, on the, on the issues at hand, right?

00:31:17.520 But first there had been a discussion about closing down the majority of the migrant hotels.

00:31:22.540 And then this judge, uh, showed up, uh, being, I think his father, it was shown on,

00:31:27.180 at least Grox said, someone pointed out, what's the ethnicity of his father then?

00:31:31.500 If you can't find his, and it's like, oh yeah, yes he is.

00:31:34.060 You know, anyway, Lord Bean, is that what Mr. Bean was based on that?

00:31:38.160 One of that guy.

00:31:38.700 Anyway, he was Lord Bean and he comes in there and basically he cites a law from 1999,

00:31:44.460 the asylum law, where basically like, well, you know, our hands are tied, right?

00:31:50.520 This is what, according to the law, um, you can interpret this obviously as always with

00:31:54.800 the law, but it's like, that's just what we have to do.

00:31:57.600 We have to take care of these people.

00:31:59.220 We have a legal responsibility and so that's that.

00:32:01.840 So therefore, I'm reopening the Epping Hotel again.

00:32:04.440 And some of the footage I show there was from the protests outside when they shoved an old

00:32:08.380 man.

00:32:09.320 Um, they were trying to break through.

00:32:10.820 Like, these people want to move up to the hotel, they want to be there and show force

00:32:15.900 and say, we don't want this.

00:32:18.420 Destabilize, make these people uncomfortable, yell at them when they show up at the hotels,

00:32:23.420 you know, like things like this.

00:32:24.500 That there must be some consequence for them.

00:32:27.260 And now we're kind of seeing that momentum finally happening where people won't actually

00:32:30.240 see it.

00:32:31.200 Um, but do you know anything about the back story there of like, they just, they went this

00:32:36.420 way and then they just flipped back.

00:32:38.000 And it was that only about the Epping Hotel?

00:32:39.820 Or do you think that will set a precedent for other, uh, hotels to reopen again?

00:32:44.580 Or what do you think will happen with that?

00:32:46.660 So, so here's the reason why.

00:32:48.520 So ultimately, um, it got closed down because there was too much commotion.

00:32:52.320 The whole of the community was against it.

00:32:54.000 Even local council has come up and came out against it in the end, even though it took

00:32:57.660 a lot of pressure to get them there.

00:32:59.180 And then obviously because it came such a mainstream story, that's when they was like,

00:33:03.880 okay, we need to close this hotel.

00:33:05.560 And then it went through the courts.

00:33:07.040 And one of the other reasons the courts didn't want it to close down is because it sets a precedent

00:33:11.200 that protests can get hotels closed down.

00:33:14.420 And obviously if that happened in Epping, the obvious answer for all of our guys is

00:33:19.100 to just go out to every, every hotel, consistently protest and get them closed down.

00:33:24.580 But it's important to know that the reason these protests in that, in Epping actually 0.78

00:33:28.120 started is because an invader raped a little girl in the town. 0.82

00:33:31.680 That's what happens. 0.99

00:33:32.620 Like she was sexually assaulted by some invader.

00:33:35.280 That's what was happening.

00:33:36.240 So ultimately the government now and the courts are turning around to the Epping locals and

00:33:39.860 saying to everyone in the country to be realistic and saying that you have to be

00:33:44.420 to have rapists and all sorts dumped in your community.

00:33:47.600 And even if you complain and even if you fight back and even if you do everything within the

00:33:51.200 legal system to push back against it, you're still having them on your doorstep, whether

00:33:54.860 you like it or not.

00:33:55.640 That's the message from the government towards the people of our country.

00:33:59.640 Yeah, this came out right.

00:34:00.440 Epping Hotel migrant told 14-year-old girl they could make Jamaican babies. 0.94

00:34:05.060 Look at that.

00:34:05.560 Asylum seeker trial begins with court hearing having tried to kiss a teenager. 0.99

00:34:09.980 And of course, many of them do get raped too. 0.97

00:34:12.900 So she's lucky in the sense that it was actually found out and he got caught.

00:34:16.100 Right.

00:34:16.260 But how many cases?

00:34:17.740 How many times?

00:34:18.800 It's not just that one as well.

00:34:20.400 And there's others as well.

00:34:21.500 Of course not.

00:34:22.540 Yeah, no, exactly.

00:34:24.660 And this is what gets swept under the rug.

00:34:26.600 Once we start protesting and people start getting angry about the situation, all of this is ignored.

00:34:32.400 And all they focus on is, oh, far right want the people out.

00:34:36.100 No, the far right are like normal people.

00:34:38.800 In terms of like the Epping protests and stuff, it's not like it was loads of nationalist groups

00:34:44.720 getting together, making a big mob and campaigning outside this hotel.

00:34:49.140 That's not what's happening.

00:34:50.500 It's a few nationalists working in their local community, getting organised with all their community.

00:34:54.740 And they're all pushing back together.

00:34:56.820 What you see is of all those people protesting and Epping, Epping locals give or take 10%

00:35:02.740 that have come to join the protest.

00:35:04.380 Yeah.

00:35:04.600 And that's what's really worrying the government.

00:35:07.800 Because before it would only be nationalists and activists at these protests.

00:35:12.160 But now it's just normal people.

00:35:14.120 And once you've got that ball rolling, it's really hard to stop that.

00:35:17.860 Yeah, lots of younger boys and even girls here, as you can see as well in the footage here.

00:35:23.720 A lot of families, some women, some girls or whatnot.

00:35:26.480 And again, you see these on the signs.

00:35:29.080 I think the banner there is like, oh, we're not far right.

00:35:31.380 And ideally, they would just like, don't even address that.

00:35:34.400 Like, just let's not try.

00:35:36.440 But anyway, again, these are very good starts.

00:35:40.120 And they're maybe, what can we say?

00:35:42.980 They're five years behind us maybe overall on average in their opinions.

00:35:48.800 Maybe three.

00:35:49.580 Maybe some of them maybe 10.

00:35:51.020 But like, I mean, it's reaching that boiling point that there's just no reversal of this.

00:35:57.160 And that's why I say I don't, even if, you know, even if you don't see continued, you know, mass protests

00:36:03.280 or people out on the streets like this during like, you know, wintertime or something like that,

00:36:08.160 the attitudes are not going to disappear.

00:36:10.280 The sentiment behind this is not just going to go away.

00:36:13.080 It's something that's there.

00:36:14.600 And it's now, I think, it reached a point where it's not going to reverse or there's nothing they can do,

00:36:19.280 I think, to placate the people.

00:36:22.400 What do you think?

00:36:23.900 Well, this is the thing.

00:36:25.020 Like, with the we're not far right signs and so on as well.

00:36:28.140 Like, you've got to understand a lot of these people are very much new to the scene now.

00:36:31.720 They're entering into a world that they've never really understood.

00:36:35.800 And as soon as they go into a protest, they're called racist, they're called this.

00:36:39.280 And a lot of people shut down.

00:36:40.940 They're like, oh, my God, I'm not used to this.

00:36:42.260 What's going on?

00:36:43.200 So they freak out a little bit and they put these three little protest banners and stuff.

00:36:46.580 I don't agree with them, but you can understand why some of them do it and so on.

00:36:49.900 So there's no point stamping down on them as they're starting to openly speak out.

00:36:56.600 They're just on a journey and it takes a little bit longer to get there.

00:36:59.700 They shouldn't be at the front of the protest.

00:37:01.460 But if you haven't got organisers because these are local people, you can't help it.

00:37:04.940 It is what it is.

00:37:06.600 But overall, like, throughout the winter, naturally, protests do calm down.

00:37:11.540 There will be less.

00:37:13.740 There will be the odd spontaneous one if something happens.

00:37:16.860 But like you said, the sentiment's not going to calm down.

00:37:20.000 Next year, again, everyone's going to be fully angry.

00:37:22.680 The numbers are only going to increase.

00:37:24.720 Reform's going to win the next general election when we have that.

00:37:27.920 Everyone's going to be disappointed with what reform's done and they're going to want something further to the right.

00:37:32.080 And then that's when nationalists should have an opportunity as a way in.

00:37:35.700 That's kind of how we see it.

00:37:37.480 But ideally, it would be a lot better if we could get the general election within the next two years, get reform to go through that process a little bit sooner.

00:37:47.420 So then we can start moving towards nationalist options after that.

00:37:50.260 But it's all positive development.

00:37:53.500 Like, the amount of normal people I've seen protesting on the street, the amount of kids that I've seen, like, walking down the road not wanting anything to do with immigrants and stuff, like, it's really refreshing to see. 0.50

00:38:03.420 Like, it's great.

00:38:04.660 So I see it as this is a tremendous amount of ground being gained.

00:38:09.440 Everyone, like, you see online, like, oh, you get, like, Americans and, like, people in Europe and they're like, oh, Brits are cucked, Brits are cucked and all of this.

00:38:15.840 And you're like, well, in reality, we've been protesting for two years somewhere.

00:38:19.520 We've got all of our people putting flags up and down the country.

00:38:22.640 We've been outside migrant hotels.

00:38:24.200 We had riots last summer.

00:38:25.500 I was like, that's not happened anywhere else.

00:38:27.360 I was like, so you can't keep sitting here calling us all cucked.

00:38:29.560 I was like, it's just not happening.

00:38:31.500 It's just, it's the Aussies down under that's following you guys. 1.00

00:38:35.600 I did see Auspild.

00:38:36.560 He was like, we should.

00:38:37.960 They're bad enough.

00:38:39.080 No, no, they are.

00:38:40.040 Exactly.

00:38:40.520 No, no, they are.

00:38:41.360 But just, I think it was Auspild who was talking about, like, race the colors, you know, the Australian flag in Australia to take, you know, a page out of Britain's nationalist playbook, if you will.

00:38:54.380 So here's, like, a tweet thread real quick.

00:38:56.920 Like, reform UK on us, suspending councillors who share Tommy Robinson's post on social media.

00:39:02.220 Then he replies, you know, oh, I'm a free speech, blah, blah, blah.

00:39:05.900 And Elon, at least, came out and said, in reply to that response, quote, tweeting that, Farage is weak, runny sauce.

00:39:12.740 And he had another tweet about that, which is good, right?

00:39:14.900 He won't let reform even stand up for their own people, pushing their epping member and will change nothing of significant politically. 0.88

00:39:21.980 Now, that's true.

00:39:22.520 But then he says, go with Advance UK, Benjamin, which is Benjamin Habib, and Tommy for the real change that's needed to save Britain.

00:39:32.300 I was like, oh, it was like, all right, good, good attempt.

00:39:35.820 What do you know about Advance UK?

00:39:38.600 So Advance UK is not even a political party yet.

00:39:41.620 They haven't registered.

00:39:42.360 And it's led by a half-English, half-Pakistani fellow called Ben Habib, but his real name is Benyamin Habib.

00:39:51.040 He's a Pakistani fellow.

00:39:53.140 If you want a party that's going to deal with immigration, the most logical thing, at the bare minimum, is not to have an immigrant as your party leader. 1.00

00:40:02.400 So from the get-go there, you're already having huge problems.

00:40:05.560 But you can see what – and then you've got Tommy Robinson and stuff shilling it.

00:40:09.100 So basically, it's just like a civic nationalist version of reform that welcomes Tommy in rather than doesn't welcome Tommy in.

00:40:15.820 It's essentially the same thing.

00:40:17.300 That's pretty much what it is.

00:40:18.860 But you can understand why Musk is sort of promoting them, because there is no other alternative party to reform at the moment.

00:40:28.580 You're looking online, and Advance has the biggest membership next to reform.

00:40:33.020 Restore's not going to be a party, which Lo is leading.

00:40:35.860 So naturally, Musk is just going to go and chuck his name behind that.

00:40:39.980 He's not fully switched on.

00:40:41.780 But then again, he's not fully our guy anyway, is he?

00:40:43.880 So at the end of the day, he may boost some of us and so forth, which we appreciate, puts my platform on a bigger edge.

00:40:49.940 But he's never going to be fully our guy, is he?

00:40:51.940 So you just have to take a pinch of salt.

00:40:54.280 But it's not ideal that he keeps promoting Tommy to a massive support.

00:40:57.900 Not from our point of view anyway.

00:41:00.020 No, exactly. 0.99

00:41:00.740 And that needs to be also – that's such a small thing to do, to keep hammering Elon when he boosts that shit out. 0.97

00:41:08.300 And say, you know, this is not the right guys either. 0.99

00:41:10.700 There's other institutions.

00:41:11.620 There's people like Steve and Patriarch Alternative and other things.

00:41:14.440 And again, it might not be an official formed party still, but these are nationalist groups.

00:41:20.620 And there's others too, obviously, but like nationalist groups that are interested in actually remedy the real problem.

00:41:25.600 Now, you had a post as well.

00:41:27.540 You said, go anywhere in the UK and look around.

00:41:29.940 You'll just see foreigners everywhere. 0.99

00:41:31.800 It's truly sickening the damage that has been done to our nation and to our people.

00:41:35.220 We have to stop immigration and start remigration before we can even begin to reverse the damage that has been done. 1.00

00:41:44.160 And Mr. Welcome to the club, bro.

00:41:46.200 Musk reposted you here and said remigration is the only way.

00:41:50.780 So you got like 20, you know, 24 millions on something like that, which is good.

00:41:55.540 And we appreciate him for that.

00:41:56.560 Again, I don't know his motivations.

00:41:58.620 What's going on?

00:41:59.360 He's a spurred. 0.99

00:42:00.800 He's over here one day, over there the other day.

00:42:03.080 And, you know, but it doesn't hurt that he's like helping to boost this up, obviously.

00:42:09.160 No, this is it.

00:42:10.020 It's definitely, he's just put remigration to a massive audience. 0.96

00:42:13.200 I'm assuming his version of remigration is not quite what mine is.

00:42:17.000 But either way, it's very much, it's a benefit.

00:42:21.260 Like we've been campaigning very hard on pushing remigration into the mainstream. 0.60

00:42:26.340 And when you get someone like Elon come through and then use the term, not only does it kind of legitimize it in certain circles,

00:42:32.840 it also, it just pushes it to an audience that we would never be able to reach.

00:42:39.100 So I appreciate it on that front.

00:42:42.040 And obviously, I wouldn't appreciate if it was like remigration means only illegals or something and then push that to 200 million followers.

00:42:48.640 That wouldn't be ideal.

00:42:50.120 But just saying the term at the moment at the basis, we'll take it at that for sure.

00:42:55.180 Yeah, because it was even Farage again placating, right?

00:42:57.540 Of saying, well, you know, I have a plan of remigration.

00:43:01.880 It's a caveat for illegals, you know, kind of thing.

00:43:04.220 It's like, yeah, duh.

00:43:05.100 Like that's the simpler problem to deal with, actually.

00:43:08.740 That's like, that's easy because you already have the laws in place to just simply enforce them.

00:43:14.280 The harder thing is to deal with the people that came under the false pretenses where the British people weren't asked.

00:43:20.960 And I mean, there's cases in the past where I forget, and I'm sure this has continued, right?

00:43:24.940 But it was like under the Blair government, New Labour, as you recall back then, the Third Way.

00:43:30.720 And it was his, I forget if she was like the Home Secretary or something at the time,

00:43:36.680 but it came out how they reclassified migrants, right, from basically asylum seekers, essentially,

00:43:43.000 to economic migrants or something like that in order to just skirt certain laws.

00:43:47.060 And I mean, things like this have been gone forever.

00:43:48.700 It's a lot of bureaucracy and shifting and moving paperwork.

00:43:52.400 It's not necessarily that they care about the laws, certainly not uphold them, as we've seen.

00:43:57.320 They look the other way when it's pertinent, and then they just overreach when there's someone

00:44:01.580 that they consider to be an enemy of the state, essentially.

00:44:04.600 But regardless, they reshuffle this, and they just say, no, this is totally legal now.

00:44:10.900 These people can be here and stay here.

00:44:12.680 But all that stuff needs to be reversed.

00:44:14.560 This is the same thing with that 99 law that Lord Bean was referencing.

00:44:19.160 That needs to be done away with.

00:44:20.820 And since we don't have our people in power, in institutions, maybe there are some who try to ascend,

00:44:27.480 and that's great, and we should work, some of us should work towards that too, obviously.

00:44:31.820 But the only thing, what's the other remedy, right?

00:44:34.520 They must feel pressure from the population.

00:44:37.440 That's the only thing that we have at this point, correct?

00:44:40.120 Or what else do we have, do you think?

00:44:41.720 Well, this is the thing.

00:44:43.700 Without our guys entering various institutions, trying to become judges, politicians in the media,

00:44:49.680 and so forth, we have to create a hostile environment.

00:44:53.340 And I'm not talking about going around assaulting stuff, because obviously those sort of advices are legal.

00:44:58.700 But in terms of creating a hostile environment, you don't have to use their businesses.

00:45:02.600 You don't have to talk to these people.

00:45:04.120 You don't have to be nice to these people.

00:45:05.800 You don't have to be welcoming.

00:45:07.040 You don't have to help them out in any situation.

00:45:09.180 There's various things we can do.

00:45:11.440 We can protest outside all of the properties that they own, outside of the hotels they're in.

00:45:16.460 There's all sorts of various things we can do to create a hostile environment.

00:45:20.060 And that's a key stage in pushing policies to get the government to act,

00:45:25.800 because when there's hostility on the street and it starts becoming a nationwide problem,

00:45:30.280 that's when they have to react to the problems that are at hand.

00:45:32.980 And then they may not completely deal with the problems at hand how we want to,

00:45:37.440 but it keeps pushing the problem further and further, which is why consistent migrant protests outside migrant hotels

00:45:44.940 and everything else like that is very vital.

00:45:49.640 Not only does it lift morale for all of our people, it's also creating non-stop headaches for the government.

00:45:55.720 Because when it's actually local communities and it's activists doing things that wouldn't normally be done,

00:46:03.980 that's what rattles them.

00:46:05.260 They're not really bothered about a big march in central London or something like that,

00:46:08.880 because it's easy to contain.

00:46:10.140 They know where everyone is.

00:46:11.340 They've got everyone on camera.

00:46:12.940 There's not going to be any issues.

00:46:13.940 But when it's in small little villages and small towns where the police force only have like 20 police officers there or something,

00:46:21.000 these things are hard to deal with.

00:46:22.280 They start taking people out of town to their local areas and so forth,

00:46:25.740 and it creates a snowball effect where they just can't deal with it.

00:46:28.560 Yep, that's right.

00:46:29.840 Let me take a couple of these chats that came in as well.

00:46:33.700 I appreciate you guys.

00:46:35.240 We have, holy smokes, Albert, right at the gates.

00:46:39.720 Thank you, Albert.

00:46:40.500 We appreciate it.

00:46:41.500 Awesome.

00:46:42.320 He's always such an awesome supporter.

00:46:43.720 Thank you, Albert.

00:46:44.440 He says, hi, guys.

00:46:45.080 Hope all is well.

00:46:46.120 Looking forward to watching this later.

00:46:47.740 After work, take care.

00:46:48.780 You as well, Albert.

00:46:49.540 Thank you so much.

00:46:50.200 We appreciate you, as always.

00:46:52.060 Always setting the bar high for everyone else.

00:46:54.300 The Albert Challenge.

00:46:55.320 Will we meet it today?

00:46:56.440 Maybe, maybe not.

00:46:57.320 Andy.

00:46:58.040 Thank you, Andy.

00:46:58.540 He says, a reminder that Lawrence Fox suggested doing a second space with Steve over a week ago,

00:47:06.140 and nothing happened yet.

00:47:07.860 Come on, Lawrence.

00:47:08.500 Don't be scared now.

00:47:10.140 Obviously, you know the backstory to this then.

00:47:12.260 Lawrence Fox, he was the ex-comedian guy, right?

00:47:14.940 Is that Lawrence Fox?

00:47:16.940 Lawrence Fox, yes.

00:47:17.840 The ex-actor.

00:47:18.980 We had a debate before, and he sort of, at the end of the debate, he was like, okay with

00:47:23.060 Britain being 95% African, as long as it was Christian and we shared our values and all

00:47:27.260 of this nonsense.

00:47:27.820 And then we had a back and forth on Twitter, and he was like, we should have another debate.

00:47:31.020 I agreed to it.

00:47:31.740 I haven't heard anything since. 0.99

00:47:32.940 But it's not really something I'd need to chase up, because Lawrence is just a bit of a retard. 1.00

00:47:38.700 Sometimes you've got to have to, yeah, I hate that too, but you kind of have to stir 0.92

00:47:43.200 the pot a little bit and get out there.

00:47:45.180 And if you get chances like that, maybe you'll reach out to more people and get the word out.

00:47:49.040 But I get your point. 0.95

00:47:49.960 It's like, do we have to do some of these clowns? 0.75

00:47:52.300 But if that's what it takes, I guess, take one for the team, Steve. 0.88

00:47:55.640 Get in there, back in the ring.

00:47:58.000 Alcyon, good to see you as well, Alcyon, one of our producers.

00:48:00.620 Thank you.

00:48:00.900 It's a great interview.

00:48:01.720 Question for Steve.

00:48:03.160 We've seen such an amazing work from NSN slash White Australia lately, showing what can 1.00

00:48:09.680 be accomplished by uniting smaller groups under one banner.

00:48:13.000 Is there any attempt to unite like-minded nationalists in England like y'all?

00:48:17.660 Well, oh yeah, Petrol Alternative, Woodlander, et cetera, other groups, obviously, it's referencing

00:48:24.300 there.

00:48:24.920 It seems like things are becoming more fractured, if anything.

00:48:28.320 Well, are they becoming more fractured?

00:48:30.940 What's just taking that?

00:48:32.720 So on the surface, I can't say too much because we're working on things behind the scenes,

00:48:36.400 but on the surface, it appears like everyone's fractured.

00:48:39.520 And there are a number of different groups, but behind the scenes, a lot of us are all working

00:48:45.140 together, a lot of us are all communicating, we're all working on projects together.

00:48:50.120 By this time next year, things will look very differently over here, but I can't say too

00:48:54.640 much at the moment, but very much so, we are all working together behind the scenes.

00:48:58.760 A lot of us all communicate, we all have phone calls, group chats, we're all in together

00:49:02.880 and so forth.

00:49:03.600 Like, we are all very much moving towards the same direction.

00:49:06.560 There are, I agree, there are a lot of small minor parties and activist groups, but that

00:49:11.420 doesn't mean we're not all working towards the same cause.

00:49:14.260 Yeah, I mean, when Thomas Sewell spoke, we played some in the, you know, Western Warriors

00:49:19.400 show that we do, got up yesterday, and we played a couple of things.

00:49:23.860 And I mean, he had, it's hard to say, it might have been anywhere from 25,000 to maybe 50,000

00:49:29.900 people there, some of the shots that they did, the pans in Australia, Melbourne, I think

00:49:34.840 they're in.

00:49:35.060 And when he was speaking, I mean, the people were cheering on, they were applauding, they

00:49:40.300 were agreeing, there was no like, get off the stage, you know, there were a lot of people

00:49:43.520 on Twitter, though, who were like, you should never have let, you know, these Nazis in, and 0.51

00:49:48.380 this is what's bad, you know, kind of thing.

00:49:49.540 It's like, well, all you, again, all you have to do is nothing, right?

00:49:54.260 All you have to do is say, okay, I don't agree with them, but at least they're on my side.

00:49:57.780 Like, now you've, now you're lining up with the replacement genocide people, you're lining 0.97

00:50:04.340 up with the shit libs, and the, you know, the Palestinian waving flag people, and the, 0.98

00:50:09.000 you know, headscarves, and the more indigenous stuff, that's more down in Australia, though, 0.99

00:50:13.460 but still, and they're, and they're not taking their side, doing their work for them, and

00:50:17.960 they still call themselves, you know, patriots, or some shit like that, like, just avoid it

00:50:21.580 then, and you do it, and you do it better, right? 0.91

00:50:23.980 But they just won't do that.

00:50:25.020 But, but, but the point is, those guys were there, they made sure that the march could

00:50:29.720 continue, and a bunch of leftists tried to step in and stop them, and yes, it did turn

00:50:33.500 violent because of what the leftists did, and again, the police didn't do their job, we

00:50:36.740 played some of those clips, but they were there to ensure that these people were physically

00:50:41.440 moved out of the way so that the whole march could continue, and those, those guys were

00:50:45.760 on the front lines, like it or not, and without that, it would not have been a success like

00:50:49.600 it was down under.

00:50:51.420 Well, this is it.

00:50:52.160 Everyone's seen the footage.

00:50:52.940 If they wasn't there, that the main protest would have got attacked, it would have scattered,

00:50:56.400 and it would have just ended up to be in nothing.

00:50:58.240 They made sure it was a successful day.

00:51:00.160 And you can see how much, like, Thomas Saul speaking in front of that many people, standing

00:51:04.720 by his own beliefs, by putting his flag in the sand and saying, this is what I believe

00:51:08.260 in, everyone has to listen to me.

00:51:10.140 He's proving it can be done, and you can, you can be in these circles.

00:51:14.140 Whether they like you or not, they have to accept him now because you're too influential

00:51:17.360 over there.

00:51:17.880 So, it's one of those cases where he's putting so much work in, as well as the rest of the

00:51:23.480 guys, that now, now that movement can enter itself in the middle of a massive, what I would

00:51:29.200 call, Sivnat conservative march in general.

00:51:32.440 And what they've done is put themselves at the forefront of it now.

00:51:36.920 And that's exceptional.

00:51:38.180 Like, that would be unheard of as years, a couple of years ago.

00:51:41.180 There's no way any of us would have expected that to happen.

00:51:43.780 So, fair play to it.

00:51:44.820 That's all I say.

00:51:45.680 No, definitely.

00:51:46.220 It was great success.

00:51:47.000 They do amazing work there.

00:51:48.840 And keeping that, as I said, that tip of the spear that's breaking through, making it

00:51:53.700 comfortable for all these other people to follow and just say, yeah, now I'm comfortable saying

00:51:57.460 they're invaders.

00:51:58.600 Now I'm comfortable saying that we need remigration. 1.00

00:52:01.260 Now I'm comfortable with just calling it out as it is.

00:52:03.400 Yeah, it's because of people like this that have been doing the work and taking the

00:52:06.900 arrows, as I said before.

00:52:07.900 So, no, they do fantastic work.

00:52:09.600 Now there was a scuffle after.

00:52:11.340 So, he was arrested.

00:52:12.260 I think he's still in jail right now.

00:52:14.300 Actually, Thomas Sewell, White Australia, just had a legal defense thing.

00:52:17.920 We linked it up on our Telegram.

00:52:19.240 I'll share it on Twitter later, too.

00:52:21.160 If you guys out there want to help them out so they can continue, you know, help them

00:52:24.100 up with their legal fees and stuff like that.

00:52:25.900 Please do, if you're able to and capable.

00:52:28.660 Ferryman, good to see you, Alex.

00:52:29.720 Hope you're doing well.

00:52:30.360 He says, everyone is fed up with the cockservatives and their never-ending fighting retreat. 0.99

00:52:35.860 It's time to get behind the vanguard or get out of the goddamn way. 0.99

00:52:39.860 That's right. 0.99

00:52:40.300 Hail Red Ice.

00:52:40.980 Hail Laws.

00:52:41.540 Thank you, Alex.

00:52:42.240 Appreciate it.

00:52:42.980 Well, that's just it. 0.86

00:52:44.440 Just move the fuck out of the way. 1.00

00:52:48.680 Leave this to more capable people, right? 0.96

00:52:50.940 This is not hard.

00:52:52.120 If you haven't got the stomach for it, just keep your mouth shut and step out of the way.

00:52:55.320 Exactly.

00:52:56.300 Things are not going to be pretty moving forward, and there's going to be decisions that a lot

00:52:59.780 of people are going to be uncomfortable with. 0.89

00:53:01.200 If you're not comfortable with it, just shut up, because the opposite is far worse. 0.80

00:53:05.120 Either we do it or we don't do it, right? 0.94

00:53:07.960 And maybe we'll get into this in part two.

00:53:11.280 We're going to take a break in a little bit here, but I'll drop it now.

00:53:14.020 We can discuss it in detail later.

00:53:15.400 But then there's other things like, oh, well, they kind of want you to be out there.

00:53:20.340 It's like, no, obviously they don't.

00:53:22.920 They're arresting people.

00:53:23.860 They're trying to shut it down.

00:53:25.300 Will they try to use it to bring in further laws and further surveillance?

00:53:31.340 Of course they will.

00:53:32.860 But they would have done that anyway.

00:53:34.220 Either you fight and they do it, or you don't fight and they do it.

00:53:37.260 Like, what's your options, right?

00:53:43.320 Drothwork, I think it is, says, thank you for that, by the way, says, I wasn't a racist

00:53:48.320 before actually experiencing, quote-unquote, diversity en masse.

00:53:51.720 So it's really our fault if we become racist, or is it?

00:53:55.400 So is it really our fault if we become racist?

00:53:57.420 No, of course not.

00:53:58.600 That's the thing, right?

00:53:59.360 Could it have actually have made more to do with pattern recognition?

00:54:05.860 Well, yes, and as you said, just experiences, right?

00:54:09.920 That's what's so interesting about all of this, that like, and again, I'm not coming

00:54:14.060 from this from some tinfoil hand conspiratorial view, because it's obvious that they don't

00:54:17.820 want us to resist.

00:54:18.820 They just want us to roll over and die and be silent and just, you know, not do anything.

00:54:22.660 But I'm saying it is almost like they want, it's almost like they want to enrage us.

00:54:27.380 It's almost like they want to do these things.

00:54:29.440 And that's, of course, where the arguments about, well, they want you to protest, come in

00:54:32.300 there.

00:54:32.520 But again, what can you do, right?

00:54:34.720 Where you're painted into a corner and someone is declaring war on you.

00:54:40.940 Well, I'm a peace activist. 1.00

00:54:42.540 Okay, well, die then. 0.91

00:54:44.540 What's our options? 1.00

00:54:46.180 Okay, fine, die then, if that's what you want to do. 0.64

00:54:49.460 And I think Thomas actually said in the beginning of this speech, right? 0.94

00:54:52.840 He said, sometimes you're going to have to fight or to that effect.

00:54:57.180 Sometimes you're going to have to, there are struggles in life, and you're going to have

00:55:00.640 to deal with them, basically.

00:55:01.780 And this is our struggle.

00:55:03.280 This is our struggle of, if not just our lifetimes, multiple generations.

00:55:09.240 A struggle for, you know, like we've never had before.

00:55:12.700 And the big question, Steve, is are we up to the challenge?

00:55:15.940 Are we going to do what's necessary?

00:55:17.600 Are we going to be tough and hard enough to just get this done?

00:55:21.160 Or are we going to roll over and simply have no future for ourselves, for our children,

00:55:27.420 or for our grandkids?

00:55:28.240 This is it.

00:55:31.000 This is literally the final battle for our homeland, essentially.

00:55:34.180 Because when we become minorities, we lose all control over our homelands. 0.97

00:55:38.840 We lose everything.

00:55:40.100 Like, that is the end.

00:55:41.100 There's no reverse in that, then, unless there's a miracle.

00:55:44.040 So, this is the final battle, and we have to put everything on the line to it.

00:55:49.640 There's no chance.

00:55:50.820 There's no time for half measures.

00:55:52.400 There's no time for, oh, this is a bit too far for me.

00:55:55.720 Oh, this is a bit mean.

00:55:57.240 Like, all of that's just complete emotional nonsense.

00:55:59.740 We have to step completely past all of that.

00:56:02.100 Everyone needs to harden their hearts and just get the job done.

00:56:04.840 We all know what needs to be done.

00:56:06.620 Everyone's moving towards that direction.

00:56:08.840 People just need to stop countering it and just get the job done.

00:56:11.800 That's all they need to do.

00:56:13.420 There's no more beating around the bush.

00:56:15.700 We could debate it to the end of the moon and back.

00:56:18.180 We could sit there and reassess it.

00:56:19.960 We could create up all sorts of think tank organizations and so on,

00:56:24.440 saying what needs to be done.

00:56:25.500 But we all know it's just removing the immigrants as quickly and as effectively as possible. 1.00

00:56:29.960 That's what needs to be done.

00:56:31.520 Yeah, in fact, to not do that is the moral thing to do.

00:56:34.900 Look at the victims.

00:56:36.620 Look at the girls. 0.99

00:56:37.400 Look at the sacrifice.

00:56:38.500 Look at all these lives and the countless just rapes and abuse

00:56:43.860 and everything that's happened over the last few decades here.

00:56:46.260 We're just not going to use that as ammunition for why this needs to be done.

00:56:51.580 And ultimately, we don't care.

00:56:52.720 These are our countries.

00:56:54.780 There might be some great people, but they can go and be great people in their own countries.

00:56:59.480 And they have their own countries.

00:57:00.580 And we don't.

00:57:01.280 And that's really just the final line in the sand.

00:57:03.720 And that's the mentality we have to have.

00:57:06.000 And there's no point in getting some debate, some navel-gazing, you know, Gordian.

00:57:10.920 Well, how many can we?

00:57:12.240 Oh, you're going to let this get?

00:57:14.460 That's not the – that is neither here nor there.

00:57:18.080 None of that matters.

00:57:19.280 The only goal is taking our countries back, whatever is necessary. 0.97

00:57:24.000 And I like the line you said.

00:57:25.000 I heard it.

00:57:25.420 I think you were talking to Mark, by the way.

00:57:26.760 If we can't have our countries, no one can.

00:57:31.620 No one will, right?

00:57:33.120 Yeah, this is it.

00:57:34.020 If we can't have England, no one can.

00:57:35.780 So for you, it would be Sweden and so forth.

00:57:37.660 These are our homelands.

00:57:39.380 If we can't have them, no one's having them.

00:57:41.580 We'd have to take the Saxon option.

00:57:43.260 It's just they're not having it. 0.99

00:57:46.180 I'd rather die. 0.99

00:57:48.080 There you go. 0.99

00:57:48.900 There you have it.

00:57:49.320 Okay, so we're going to take a little break here, Steve.

00:57:50.980 But I do want to plug some of your stuff here, obviously.

00:57:52.960 We're going to continue in part two in just a little bit.

00:57:55.400 And there's some other topics that I want to cover, too.

00:57:58.140 We'll get into the Scottish girl a little bit, that case there, too.

00:58:01.660 There's some stuff with – yeah, there was rumors of revival of, like, the EDL.

00:58:05.820 I'm not even sure if that's true, but it was, like, kind of going in that direction.

00:58:08.360 We'll talk about that and many other things as well.

00:58:12.120 Steve underscore laws underscore.

00:58:13.980 Obviously, that's your ex or Twitter account.

00:58:16.300 You have remigration now as well.

00:58:18.360 Do you want to tell us about that briefly?

00:58:20.660 What do you guys got going on there?

00:58:22.940 So, basically, that should be launching at the end of the week.

00:58:24.940 It's just going to be an activist pressure group focused on remigration.

00:58:29.020 We're going to try and do things a little bit differently to how activism has been done in the UK before.

00:58:34.000 And until we launch and I'll show you things that we've been done, it's a little bit difficult to explain.

00:58:38.960 So we don't kind of want to give away any plans we've got.

00:58:40.800 But, yeah, ultimately, it's just a campaign, an activist group, using as a pressure group for remigration.

00:58:47.440 And I can be very selective.

00:58:51.060 The best thing about it being an activist group rather than a party is I can be very selective about who we get involved with it.

00:58:56.820 And I don't have to deal with all of the shot away people that join parties randomly out of the blue. 0.83

00:59:02.500 And you have no choice but to stick with them.

00:59:04.200 Oh, there's my mic.

00:59:07.620 Yeah, no, exactly.

00:59:09.140 Definitely.

00:59:09.940 No, that's great.

00:59:11.120 Looking forward to seeing more from this.

00:59:13.260 In the meantime, obviously, follow that account as well, Remigration Now. 0.81

00:59:16.120 And there's an underscore at the end of that as well.

00:59:18.200 And Steve Law's main account.

00:59:20.560 And we're going to continue to talk here more in the second part, ladies and gentlemen.

00:59:24.580 And we do, yes, we do that for members.

00:59:26.220 We want to do more for our members as well to offer you guys more.

00:59:29.360 And Steve's gracious enough to join us in part two as we continue our conversation.

00:59:33.940 So stay with us, Steve.

00:59:35.320 I'm going to make a couple of plugs here, but we'll take a few minute break after that.

00:59:38.700 And then we'll continue in part two.

00:59:40.500 So thank you, Steve.

00:59:41.060 We appreciate you.

00:59:42.540 Okay, guys.

00:59:43.360 So what we'll do is let me do a little plug here then.

00:59:46.100 If you do want to join us in part two, you can do that right now either at RedEisMembers.com

00:59:50.600 or you can do it on our locals, which is RedEisTV.locals.com.

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00:59:58.660 It's only $10 US a month.

01:00:00.820 It's very little to most people out there, but it does tremendous amounts to us to help

01:00:06.420 us continue doing these shows, talking to great people like Steve, getting the word

01:00:10.900 out there, helping to pull all of this together.

01:00:13.700 The major task that we have to coordinate, keep an eye on this.

01:00:17.460 We need information networks as part of all this as well.

01:00:20.420 What's happening out there?

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Red Ice TV - September 03, 2025

Remigration, Nationalism & The Turning Tide In England & UK - Steve Laws

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