Red Ice TV - September 03, 2025
Remigration, Nationalism & The Turning Tide In England & UK - Steve Laws
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1 hour and 5 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we continue our coverage of the pro-Scottish nationalism movement in the UK, and are joined by Steve Lough who has been a regular on the show for years. Steve talks about the new wave of anti-EU and anti-racist protests that are taking place across the UK and Scotland, and how nationalists can use them to their advantage.
Transcript
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Thank you for tuning in live or if you're watching us in the archives.
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And today, we are going to continue our coverage on what's going on in England, Wales, Scotland, the wider UK at all.
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We're seeing some great advancements for nationalists for the issue of remigration.
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It is being launched, I think, into the mainstream in a way that we've never seen before.
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We have protests in the UK outside of these migrant hotels.
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We have the Operation Race, the banner, very simplistic stuff in a way, right, in terms of organization.
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But such a powerful and simple way to actually do it.
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And also, at the same time, obviously, to kind of antagonize the opposition, really, where the English flag, or in some cases, the Union Jack as well, is now seen as a big problematic symbol.
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They have to reveal their hands, let them play their cards early, and tell us how much they hate us.
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Now, that's not news to us, but it might be news to the wider public out there.
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And, of course, part of this job, part of the task is to, yes, partially get them on our side and create massive movements that can create this boiling point pressure, you know, from bottom up, essentially.
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That's, there's many other strategies, but that's certainly a very, very good one to just show a, some resistance, show some force in terms of how bad it is in the UK right now.
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So, with us to talk about this and some of these trends and everything that's going on is Steve Loss, who's joining us back on the show, one of the bigger accounts in the UK who have been pushing the re-migration issue for years now.
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Steve, how are you? Thank you for joining us again.
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I'm all good, thank you. Thank you for having me on. It's been a while, so I do appreciate it.
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And, like you say, we've got a lot to talk about what's going on in the UK.
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What do you know about Operation Race to Colors?
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I'm not sure who initiated. Was it Paul Golding, partially, that was part of that and some other guys as well?
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So, no, it was more, it was more just some unknown activists that got together and they started putting flags up around their local area.
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It sort of grew and it's almost like the perfect protest because to counter this protest, you're seen as anti-English, anti-British and you're against our way of life and our flag and so on.
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And it's so easy for people to support as well because any normal person can go out and they can paint a roundabout or they can put a flag outside their window or on a lamppost.
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And it's really easy to get involved in. It's a great entry point to nationalism.
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And it is bringing people over to our side as well. So, people in local communities, they see all the flags up and down the street, they get excited.
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They're like, all the flags have been to our town.
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So, it's not really so much that there was, there was a small group that started it and then it branched outwards and it got bigger and bigger.
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Now, obviously, all sorts of people are trying to get involved in it and there are some people trying to like subvert it.
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But overall, it's like the perfect protest in a way. It's like an entry point to nationalism.
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Yeah, we should not let perfect be an enemy of good and this is a good start, right?
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Because this is not going to slow down. I mean, let's just kind of analyze that a little bit.
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This is not, it's not that there's going to be a few protests and then this is going to go away and in a weird way.
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I hate to be the guy and I mention this all the time, but to kind of like, well, you know, the worse it gets.
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But it is partially true, right, that if you did have a government right now in the UK, and there's been some signs of this, right?
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But they're like, they wanted to placate and, you know, they've kind of done this with the protests outside of the migrant hotels.
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And now they're like, well, we're going to kind of do away with the migrant hotels.
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But then the thing in Epping happened with the judge there. We'll get to that.
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But then, you know, cover it up, placate them, make them just go back to sleep again type of thing, right?
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And it's actually good when you see a Yvette Cooper standing in the House of Commons again and just continue to push for more migration, more benefits, more stuff, because it does enrage the British people.
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And at this point, it's kind of like you kind of have to do that of sorts.
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Either you fight for your country or you don't.
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And that's really what this comes down to, Steve, right?
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We've got a government that's openly hostile towards us, which very much does help in terms of recruitment and getting people inside for our message.
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But what we've been doing recently in the UK, and I'm assuming other nationalists have throughout Europe and so on, is we've been planting our flag in the sand.
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Whereas the days gone by, people would go, OK, we've got to try and appeal to Joe Public.
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We've got to try and appeal to the middle ground.
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We've got to try and sort of meet them halfway.
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Whereas we've just decided now we're putting our flag in the sand.
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And everyone, even politicians, think tanks, normal people, people in the media, they're all moving towards it, all moving towards a position of remigration.
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Sure, they're not all where we want them to be.
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But this stance that we're taking now is very much a lot more effective.
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And with the government that we've got, a Labour government that are openly open borders, they're throwing people in prison for tweets and all sorts of so-called hate crimes and so on.
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So with all of this tied together with us planting our flag in the sand, it's creating a natural progression where, as you can see, there's consistent protests outside migrants, hotels, there's people getting active in the streets, there's new groups and organizations forming all over the country.
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You might not all see it all in the media and so on, but there is a lot happening in terms of nationalism.
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And we're being welcomed in circles that we would never normally be welcomed in.
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And the pressure for kind of more normie-leaning even, I mean, I kind of reluctantly use the word conservative, obviously.
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And I don't mean the Tories, but like conservative-leaning people, center-leaning right people realize that they have to up the rhetoric.
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They have to somehow start addressing these issues or they kind of, I think they feel, they sense it in the air that they're going to be left behind, right, if they don't address this properly.
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You know, it's one very good voice that have upped his rhetoric as well.
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And it's kind of weird because they counter-signal ethno-nationalists at the same time as they pick up their issues and their talking points to a certain degree.
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But they have like limited themselves to a very kind of narrow corridor of like what they consider to be acceptable or whatnot.
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But regardless, what that shows, Steve, is that it's moving in our direction.
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Maybe they would try to derail it or get ahead of it so they can steer it the way that they want.
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But it means that they are on the defensive and we are actually running or kind of dictating.
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I say we, but I mean like overall, like just the general public that are concerned with these matters are dictating the direction, right?
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We're controlling the narrative now and all of these people are playing catch-up.
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They have no choice but to, as you said, if they don't play catch-up, they get left behind.
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The only issue of the day is remigration, mass deportation, whatever you want to call it.
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Everyone knows what needs to be done and everyone knows what direction we need to get to.
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Some people are still uncomfortable about going to that full position and some people are still on a journey.
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But the winds are moving in that direction very fast.
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With Rupert Lowe, he's one of the only people that has kind of adopted our talking points who, to be fair to him, isn't even really watering him down that much no more.
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He's never punched right towards us guys or anything like that.
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He's one of these people that understands that we have a role and we drag it to the right.
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And people like Rupert Lowe should be coming into that void and saying, right, this is what the people want.
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And I'm a lot more confident than I was last time we spoke even a year ago.
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To have politicians calling for mass deportations now, we would never have dreamed of that a year ago.
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Yeah, so Lowe has been pretty good, but this guy countersignaled some ethno-nationalists.
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Should we listen to what he said here and you can reply to it?
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I care about your religion and personal hygiene.
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That's what happens when you're an ethno-nationalist, want this beautiful human being gone, not because
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of our ideology, not because of the blood running blue, but because of our skin color.
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These vile human beings, these extremists, we are now in the fight back against the rise
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of these ethno-nationalists and the actual goose-stepping neo-Nazis as well, which do exist.
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So, he's doing the James Lindsay pivot here, I guess, of trying to counter-signal the quote-unquote
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I mean, he didn't use those terms, but that's basically what he's doing.
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So, again, he's like, no, no, I saw him reply to you, right, because you called him out on
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Ethnats like you calling for total remigration is an absolute disgrace.
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Like, either it's the country of the British people, the white native population of Britain,
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it's their islands, they built it to what it is, or is it not?
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And if you start kind of moving, you know, the point is, too, the mentality must be, no,
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Like, and if you say, well, here was a good one, you know, I was like, okay, so what?
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It's our countries as Europeans, your countries, but like our countries as Europeans, right?
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And why don't they just do, just, if you don't agree with, just leave it alone and use
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Well, this is the thing, he's desperate to show this black African woman that he's not
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racist, he's not the bad guy, and he's on our side.
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That's someone who should not be in Europe, let alone in Britain.
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And it's like, why are you going against our own people to actively shield for this
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The fact that we call ourselves ethno-nationalists is only to distance ourselves from that sort
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And we shouldn't even have to do that at the best of times.
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But that beside the point, I've asked to have a debate with Nick.
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It's okay to sit there, call us vile, call us all sorts of nonsense.
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But he knows when his argument is put against our argument, it's got no legs to stand on.
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Like, he's one of these people that wouldn't mind if we got replaced by Africans as long
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You want to integrate them so they become like you.
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So as they replace you, they're kind of like, well, it just happened to be a British person
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And of course, we all know that none of this works this way.
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And ultimately, these are the only countries, you know, we have are European countries.
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There's massive continents for these people where they come from and their homelands and
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And if they feel uncomfortable with us wanting to restore something that our forebears built,
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then that's upon them and they're welcome to leave.
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And I'm sure they'll be let back into their countries.
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Well, this is the thing where there is only one England, there is only one Sweden, there
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And even if we did, we're not surrendering our homeland to immigrants and to foreigners
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We don't care how much of the conservative types cry.
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So these people are going to be leaving our country, whether it happens in five years,
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And the younger generations are all with us, give or take 10, 15, 20 percent.
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I speak to all of these young Zoomers and they're far more radical than me.
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I showed this, the meme, I guess, but it was like, you know, the Marty McFly.
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I'll see if I can find it, but it's like, okay, you, because you have, people grow up
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under different circumstances and this and that is wrong and they just can't go as far.
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But the reality for the younger people is totally different, right?
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And it's like, so you guys not be ready for resistance or remigration, but your kids
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Because they, as you said, they realize that this is all they have.
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And we also kind of have to adopt a mentality like that.
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We can, how many decades have we seen that of setting the bar low in order to try to placate
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and maybe like win someone over instead of setting the bar high and just speaking the
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plain truth and being honest about what we want.
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And then people have to rise to that level, right?
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Because many of these people, be that a Nick Marconi or Marsoni, whatever his name was,
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He went on Kissin's trigonometry and he was like, he's taking all the talking points,
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basically saying, you know, white people are coming to minority.
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We have to discuss these issues in immigration.
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Otherwise, the ethno-nationalists, the bad people will do it.
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You've been calling us bad all this time for having those views.
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Now you feel comfortable enough to have these views.
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So we, you know, people like us and you and so many others have like broken through those
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walls, just, you know, spearheading, trailblazing this.
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And they're showing up to a paved walkway with light, you know, lights and park benches and
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And they think, look why, you know, I made this and they're totally comfortable now in that
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environment because someone else like basically, you know, broke that wilderness and was willing
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They will fight you all along the way as they adopt your opinions.
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And this is something I've experienced so much over the years now.
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So I would say something and then six months later to a year later, I'm seeing these very
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people that would call me out for something I said, now repeating those talking lines, but
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there's no acknowledgement that they was wrong or that I was right back then, which I don't
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It's fine because it brings people to our side, but it's just the audacity sometimes.
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But then when you get people like Tommy Robinson doing it, like it's, you know, it's not genuine.
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You know, it's because it's a financial grab and you can smell the, the, the wind is changing
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So he's just doing it for a financial grab, which frustrates me even more because it's fine
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if you don't understand the situation and you're not quite there because you haven't got
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the information available to you or you've just buried your head in the sand or so on.
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But when you're actively doing it to, for one, like you said, subvert it away from the
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ethno-nationalists, the people that actually care about this issue.
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And then there's two to make financial gain of it and three to lead those that follow him
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That's, that's what frustrates me the most about him.
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That's the main reason I want to have a discussion with Tommy to show that his ideas are actual
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That's my main priority to have a conversation.
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Otherwise I don't care because he's a fucking idiot.
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And actually in this case, rare win for kissing here in the interview, but it's like, well,
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It kind of sounds like you're just saying what they're saying.
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And it's like, well, yeah, but they're, you know, they're Nazis or something and they're,
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This is so ridiculous, but it shows you that, that their, their attempt is to, to placate.
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We got this and, you know, a Tommy will go on and he will link, you know, uh, British
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nationalism with, I don't know, Zionism or Jewish ethnic interest or something.
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And like, kind of, yeah, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's, you know, the British Israelite thing
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together, you know, in this battle against just the Muslims, you know, kind of thing.
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What, what, what, what about the wars that started all this?
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And, you know, there's so many questions here, which he just, we know, I'm not trying
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to, you know, I, both of you and me know what's going on here, but I'm saying, you
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know, to the wider audience, they don't get exposed to some of this stuff.
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We have a rational, reasonable and 100%, uh, you know, understandable position that you
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can back with the truth and you can back it with, with pointing out what actually is
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Uh, and, and it's constantly, these guys then have to continue to waver and flux on their
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We've never really, I mean, when we arrived to them, we've mostly, maybe adjustments a
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little bit here in their tweaks, but the main broad issues have been like, this is what
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And we've been firm on those issues for years now, some people for decades, you know what
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And it's these guys that constantly have to flip flop and change and appeal and placate
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and play the game, you know, to try to like divert people and, you know, get ahead of the
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But regardless, uh, Steve, I still think these are very positive signs because now they are
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forced to address it and talk about it on, on, on our terms.
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So the fact that despite, despite how much I disagree with the person who's saying it
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and so on, he's still using our talking points to thousands, if not millions of people who
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are then going to research these talking points, look into themselves, maybe find other groups
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and other people that put out this content and so on.
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And then that could turn that person into a potential future nationalist activist.
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Um, and that the fact that they are using our talking point shows we're winning.
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It shows we are in control of the conversation and it shows that our argument is a strong
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one because nobody to this day I've seen can defeat an ethno-nationalist from a civic nationalist
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It's just not possible because the ethno-nationalist line is the pure and proper one.
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And the civic nationalist one is basically, it's the same argument of all those people that
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think a man, a man could be a woman and all of that nonsense, like they're just transnationalist
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because they will use that same argument that an African could be British.
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So then they're using the same logic that a man could be a woman.
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Like some people become civic nationalists and then they become ethno-nationalists and
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But there's some people that intentionally divert people away and that they're the ones that
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I have a problem with, but we all know who they are.
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No, but that's what's going to happen, you know, when you get close to some of these
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topics and there's going to people jump in for different reasons and whatnot.
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But again, the trends are there and it's not going to slow down.
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That's the point I wanted to make earlier as well.
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It's just, I don't think it's going to go away one day.
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This is becoming a permanent, it has been for decades, but I'm saying like it's reaching
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And you can see this when all the British, just what looked like just normal family people
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and men and women and kids are out and just screaming like, save our kids, save our kids
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They're out outside of the hotel in Epping that they reopened again now where this judge
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Meanwhile, you know, our people can't get any help.
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And woman, I don't know her backstory and nothing like that, but it was just like juxtaposing
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it against like, here's all the migrants with a three course meal buffets that they're posh
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buffets every day at these hotels, paid for free, all the, you know, myriad of benefits
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While British people are destitute on the streets, homeless, they have drug problems, maybe mental
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problems, and the government have just totally dropped the ball, right?
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Well, this is the thing, look, I, I don't care how bad some one of our people's lives
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has been or what situations they're in, as long as they're not a nonce or something like
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This is what really frustrates me when you see all of these videos that I see thousands
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of them daily of people and like you could walk through town and you see people sleeping
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And it's truly disgusting when you've got migrants being put up into hotels, you've got immigrants
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coming over on visas, being able to given money endlessly to start businesses.
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And then you see people that are our own people just being left and abandoned by the very government
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Like any other society in any other time in history, this government would not exist.
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It's like it would be thrown out and so on, but we live in different times and it's just,
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Yeah, they are, they are the extremists, right?
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Like we're literally trying to just restore what is normal and reasonable and what has
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And we're at this just, I mean, insanely radical, just full on display hatred of our, of our
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own, you know, from the government authorities point of view of, of their own populations
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And we're seeking justice, basically justice remedy for this to be fixed or whatever.
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And as we've seen in the UK, I mean, just total overdrive on hate crime charges, on elite
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police units now that are just monitoring social media posts.
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You've seen tons of arrests and, and, you know, the Southport, uh, protest last year, obviously
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it wasn't the first time that has happened, but that was a real kind of uptick in that.
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I think you just mentioned that, uh, Callum, one of the organizers in Epping, right?
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He was just, um, arrested for, was it, excuse me, race, racial incitement to racial hatred.
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And obviously I know Callum personally, he's, he's generally a sound lad and he's been getting
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his local community to campaign like peacefully against this.
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And he's been doing it in a way that's been rallying support all over the country, like
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to the point where he's inspired protests at other hotels in other areas of the country
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And because he's been so effective, the police have gone out their way to go and arrest him.
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But ultimately, um, he did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Like he understood the assignment, but he very much is leading the way and for them
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to arrest him, that shows that they've got no other option, but then just trying to take
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the organizer out of the way with, because these protests have affected, but the whole of the
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country behind them, like the way, the way these protests are being carried out, they
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even had like all of the women there wearing pink sitting down on the floor and these were
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This is how you win support with normal people.
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Um, it's, uh, it's just the way it has to be done.
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And because it was working that way, it's almost, it's almost becomes who he's, he's become
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too much of a problem for the establishment now.
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Um, but even the leftists turning up in places like Eppin and other hotels before five, three,
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four years ago, even maybe two years ago, the, they would turn up mob handed and that
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sometimes they'd even outnumber us or they would, they would just never, they'd never
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They're just getting chased out of every town they turn up at, like even when they're
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There hasn't been riots like there was with Southport last year, but there's been more
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organized protests and, um, we've definitely, I'd say gained a lot more ground since Southport.
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Um, if we look at the MPs that we've got inside, the establishment figures we've got inside,
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obviously you can't trust all of them, but the facts that they're echoing our talking points
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What happened with the, uh, did you follow that?
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And again, it's kind of into the weeds, I guess, of sorts.
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We're going to keep our eye on, on, on the, on the issues at hand, right?
00:31:17.520
But first there had been a discussion about closing down the majority of the migrant hotels.
00:31:22.540
And then this judge, uh, showed up, uh, being, I think his father, it was shown on,
00:31:27.180
at least Grox said, someone pointed out, what's the ethnicity of his father then?
00:31:31.500
If you can't find his, and it's like, oh yeah, yes he is.
00:31:34.060
You know, anyway, Lord Bean, is that what Mr. Bean was based on that?
00:31:38.700
Anyway, he was Lord Bean and he comes in there and basically he cites a law from 1999,
00:31:44.460
the asylum law, where basically like, well, you know, our hands are tied, right?
00:31:50.520
This is what, according to the law, um, you can interpret this obviously as always with
00:31:54.800
the law, but it's like, that's just what we have to do.
00:31:59.220
We have a legal responsibility and so that's that.
00:32:01.840
So therefore, I'm reopening the Epping Hotel again.
00:32:04.440
And some of the footage I show there was from the protests outside when they shoved an old
00:32:10.820
Like, these people want to move up to the hotel, they want to be there and show force
00:32:18.420
Destabilize, make these people uncomfortable, yell at them when they show up at the hotels,
00:32:27.260
And now we're kind of seeing that momentum finally happening where people won't actually
00:32:31.200
Um, but do you know anything about the back story there of like, they just, they went this
00:32:39.820
Or do you think that will set a precedent for other, uh, hotels to reopen again?
00:32:48.520
So ultimately, um, it got closed down because there was too much commotion.
00:32:54.000
Even local council has come up and came out against it in the end, even though it took
00:32:59.180
And then obviously because it came such a mainstream story, that's when they was like,
00:33:07.040
And one of the other reasons the courts didn't want it to close down is because it sets a precedent
00:33:14.420
And obviously if that happened in Epping, the obvious answer for all of our guys is
00:33:19.100
to just go out to every, every hotel, consistently protest and get them closed down.
00:33:24.580
But it's important to know that the reason these protests in that, in Epping actually
00:33:28.120
started is because an invader raped a little girl in the town.
00:33:32.620
Like she was sexually assaulted by some invader.
00:33:36.240
So ultimately the government now and the courts are turning around to the Epping locals and
00:33:39.860
saying to everyone in the country to be realistic and saying that you have to be
00:33:44.420
to have rapists and all sorts dumped in your community.
00:33:47.600
And even if you complain and even if you fight back and even if you do everything within the
00:33:51.200
legal system to push back against it, you're still having them on your doorstep, whether
00:33:55.640
That's the message from the government towards the people of our country.
00:34:00.440
Epping Hotel migrant told 14-year-old girl they could make Jamaican babies.
00:34:05.560
Asylum seeker trial begins with court hearing having tried to kiss a teenager.
00:34:12.900
So she's lucky in the sense that it was actually found out and he got caught.
00:34:26.600
Once we start protesting and people start getting angry about the situation, all of this is ignored.
00:34:32.400
And all they focus on is, oh, far right want the people out.
00:34:38.800
In terms of like the Epping protests and stuff, it's not like it was loads of nationalist groups
00:34:44.720
getting together, making a big mob and campaigning outside this hotel.
00:34:50.500
It's a few nationalists working in their local community, getting organised with all their community.
00:34:56.820
What you see is of all those people protesting and Epping, Epping locals give or take 10%
00:35:04.600
And that's what's really worrying the government.
00:35:07.800
Because before it would only be nationalists and activists at these protests.
00:35:14.120
And once you've got that ball rolling, it's really hard to stop that.
00:35:17.860
Yeah, lots of younger boys and even girls here, as you can see as well in the footage here.
00:35:23.720
A lot of families, some women, some girls or whatnot.
00:35:29.080
I think the banner there is like, oh, we're not far right.
00:35:31.380
And ideally, they would just like, don't even address that.
00:35:42.980
They're five years behind us maybe overall on average in their opinions.
00:35:51.020
But like, I mean, it's reaching that boiling point that there's just no reversal of this.
00:35:57.160
And that's why I say I don't, even if, you know, even if you don't see continued, you know, mass protests
00:36:03.280
or people out on the streets like this during like, you know, wintertime or something like that,
00:36:10.280
The sentiment behind this is not just going to go away.
00:36:14.600
And it's now, I think, it reached a point where it's not going to reverse or there's nothing they can do,
00:36:25.020
Like, with the we're not far right signs and so on as well.
00:36:28.140
Like, you've got to understand a lot of these people are very much new to the scene now.
00:36:31.720
They're entering into a world that they've never really understood.
00:36:35.800
And as soon as they go into a protest, they're called racist, they're called this.
00:36:40.940
They're like, oh, my God, I'm not used to this.
00:36:43.200
So they freak out a little bit and they put these three little protest banners and stuff.
00:36:46.580
I don't agree with them, but you can understand why some of them do it and so on.
00:36:49.900
So there's no point stamping down on them as they're starting to openly speak out.
00:36:56.600
They're just on a journey and it takes a little bit longer to get there.
00:37:01.460
But if you haven't got organisers because these are local people, you can't help it.
00:37:06.600
But overall, like, throughout the winter, naturally, protests do calm down.
00:37:13.740
There will be the odd spontaneous one if something happens.
00:37:16.860
But like you said, the sentiment's not going to calm down.
00:37:20.000
Next year, again, everyone's going to be fully angry.
00:37:24.720
Reform's going to win the next general election when we have that.
00:37:27.920
Everyone's going to be disappointed with what reform's done and they're going to want something further to the right.
00:37:32.080
And then that's when nationalists should have an opportunity as a way in.
00:37:37.480
But ideally, it would be a lot better if we could get the general election within the next two years, get reform to go through that process a little bit sooner.
00:37:47.420
So then we can start moving towards nationalist options after that.
00:37:53.500
Like, the amount of normal people I've seen protesting on the street, the amount of kids that I've seen, like, walking down the road not wanting anything to do with immigrants and stuff, like, it's really refreshing to see.
00:38:04.660
So I see it as this is a tremendous amount of ground being gained.
00:38:09.440
Everyone, like, you see online, like, oh, you get, like, Americans and, like, people in Europe and they're like, oh, Brits are cucked, Brits are cucked and all of this.
00:38:15.840
And you're like, well, in reality, we've been protesting for two years somewhere.
00:38:19.520
We've got all of our people putting flags up and down the country.
00:38:27.360
I was like, so you can't keep sitting here calling us all cucked.
00:38:31.500
It's just, it's the Aussies down under that's following you guys.
00:38:41.360
But just, I think it was Auspild who was talking about, like, race the colors, you know, the Australian flag in Australia to take, you know, a page out of Britain's nationalist playbook, if you will.
00:38:56.920
Like, reform UK on us, suspending councillors who share Tommy Robinson's post on social media.
00:39:02.220
Then he replies, you know, oh, I'm a free speech, blah, blah, blah.
00:39:05.900
And Elon, at least, came out and said, in reply to that response, quote, tweeting that, Farage is weak, runny sauce.
00:39:12.740
And he had another tweet about that, which is good, right?
00:39:14.900
He won't let reform even stand up for their own people, pushing their epping member and will change nothing of significant politically.
00:39:22.520
But then he says, go with Advance UK, Benjamin, which is Benjamin Habib, and Tommy for the real change that's needed to save Britain.
00:39:32.300
I was like, oh, it was like, all right, good, good attempt.
00:39:38.600
So Advance UK is not even a political party yet.
00:39:42.360
And it's led by a half-English, half-Pakistani fellow called Ben Habib, but his real name is Benyamin Habib.
00:39:53.140
If you want a party that's going to deal with immigration, the most logical thing, at the bare minimum, is not to have an immigrant as your party leader.
00:40:02.400
So from the get-go there, you're already having huge problems.
00:40:05.560
But you can see what – and then you've got Tommy Robinson and stuff shilling it.
00:40:09.100
So basically, it's just like a civic nationalist version of reform that welcomes Tommy in rather than doesn't welcome Tommy in.
00:40:18.860
But you can understand why Musk is sort of promoting them, because there is no other alternative party to reform at the moment.
00:40:28.580
You're looking online, and Advance has the biggest membership next to reform.
00:40:33.020
Restore's not going to be a party, which Lo is leading.
00:40:35.860
So naturally, Musk is just going to go and chuck his name behind that.
00:40:41.780
But then again, he's not fully our guy anyway, is he?
00:40:43.880
So at the end of the day, he may boost some of us and so forth, which we appreciate, puts my platform on a bigger edge.
00:40:49.940
But he's never going to be fully our guy, is he?
00:40:54.280
But it's not ideal that he keeps promoting Tommy to a massive support.
00:41:00.740
And that needs to be also – that's such a small thing to do, to keep hammering Elon when he boosts that shit out.
00:41:08.300
And say, you know, this is not the right guys either.
00:41:11.620
There's people like Steve and Patriarch Alternative and other things.
00:41:14.440
And again, it might not be an official formed party still, but these are nationalist groups.
00:41:20.620
And there's others too, obviously, but like nationalist groups that are interested in actually remedy the real problem.
00:41:27.540
You said, go anywhere in the UK and look around.
00:41:31.800
It's truly sickening the damage that has been done to our nation and to our people.
00:41:35.220
We have to stop immigration and start remigration before we can even begin to reverse the damage that has been done.
00:41:46.200
Musk reposted you here and said remigration is the only way.
00:41:50.780
So you got like 20, you know, 24 millions on something like that, which is good.
00:42:00.800
He's over here one day, over there the other day.
00:42:03.080
And, you know, but it doesn't hurt that he's like helping to boost this up, obviously.
00:42:10.020
It's definitely, he's just put remigration to a massive audience.
00:42:13.200
I'm assuming his version of remigration is not quite what mine is.
00:42:17.000
But either way, it's very much, it's a benefit.
00:42:21.260
Like we've been campaigning very hard on pushing remigration into the mainstream.
00:42:26.340
And when you get someone like Elon come through and then use the term, not only does it kind of legitimize it in certain circles,
00:42:32.840
it also, it just pushes it to an audience that we would never be able to reach.
00:42:42.040
And obviously, I wouldn't appreciate if it was like remigration means only illegals or something and then push that to 200 million followers.
00:42:50.120
But just saying the term at the moment at the basis, we'll take it at that for sure.
00:42:55.180
Yeah, because it was even Farage again placating, right?
00:42:57.540
Of saying, well, you know, I have a plan of remigration.
00:43:01.880
It's a caveat for illegals, you know, kind of thing.
00:43:05.100
Like that's the simpler problem to deal with, actually.
00:43:08.740
That's like, that's easy because you already have the laws in place to just simply enforce them.
00:43:14.280
The harder thing is to deal with the people that came under the false pretenses where the British people weren't asked.
00:43:20.960
And I mean, there's cases in the past where I forget, and I'm sure this has continued, right?
00:43:24.940
But it was like under the Blair government, New Labour, as you recall back then, the Third Way.
00:43:30.720
And it was his, I forget if she was like the Home Secretary or something at the time,
00:43:36.680
but it came out how they reclassified migrants, right, from basically asylum seekers, essentially,
00:43:43.000
to economic migrants or something like that in order to just skirt certain laws.
00:43:47.060
And I mean, things like this have been gone forever.
00:43:48.700
It's a lot of bureaucracy and shifting and moving paperwork.
00:43:52.400
It's not necessarily that they care about the laws, certainly not uphold them, as we've seen.
00:43:57.320
They look the other way when it's pertinent, and then they just overreach when there's someone
00:44:01.580
that they consider to be an enemy of the state, essentially.
00:44:04.600
But regardless, they reshuffle this, and they just say, no, this is totally legal now.
00:44:14.560
This is the same thing with that 99 law that Lord Bean was referencing.
00:44:20.820
And since we don't have our people in power, in institutions, maybe there are some who try to ascend,
00:44:27.480
and that's great, and we should work, some of us should work towards that too, obviously.
00:44:31.820
But the only thing, what's the other remedy, right?
00:44:37.440
That's the only thing that we have at this point, correct?
00:44:43.700
Without our guys entering various institutions, trying to become judges, politicians in the media,
00:44:49.680
and so forth, we have to create a hostile environment.
00:44:53.340
And I'm not talking about going around assaulting stuff, because obviously those sort of advices are legal.
00:44:58.700
But in terms of creating a hostile environment, you don't have to use their businesses.
00:45:07.040
You don't have to help them out in any situation.
00:45:11.440
We can protest outside all of the properties that they own, outside of the hotels they're in.
00:45:16.460
There's all sorts of various things we can do to create a hostile environment.
00:45:20.060
And that's a key stage in pushing policies to get the government to act,
00:45:25.800
because when there's hostility on the street and it starts becoming a nationwide problem,
00:45:30.280
that's when they have to react to the problems that are at hand.
00:45:32.980
And then they may not completely deal with the problems at hand how we want to,
00:45:37.440
but it keeps pushing the problem further and further, which is why consistent migrant protests outside migrant hotels
00:45:49.640
Not only does it lift morale for all of our people, it's also creating non-stop headaches for the government.
00:45:55.720
Because when it's actually local communities and it's activists doing things that wouldn't normally be done,
00:46:05.260
They're not really bothered about a big march in central London or something like that,
00:46:13.940
But when it's in small little villages and small towns where the police force only have like 20 police officers there or something,
00:46:22.280
They start taking people out of town to their local areas and so forth,
00:46:25.740
and it creates a snowball effect where they just can't deal with it.
00:46:29.840
Let me take a couple of these chats that came in as well.
00:46:35.240
We have, holy smokes, Albert, right at the gates.
00:46:58.540
He says, a reminder that Lawrence Fox suggested doing a second space with Steve over a week ago,
00:47:10.140
Obviously, you know the backstory to this then.
00:47:12.260
Lawrence Fox, he was the ex-comedian guy, right?
00:47:18.980
We had a debate before, and he sort of, at the end of the debate, he was like, okay with
00:47:23.060
Britain being 95% African, as long as it was Christian and we shared our values and all
00:47:27.820
And then we had a back and forth on Twitter, and he was like, we should have another debate.
00:47:32.940
But it's not really something I'd need to chase up, because Lawrence is just a bit of a retard.
00:47:38.700
Sometimes you've got to have to, yeah, I hate that too, but you kind of have to stir
00:47:45.180
And if you get chances like that, maybe you'll reach out to more people and get the word out.
00:47:49.960
It's like, do we have to do some of these clowns?
00:47:52.300
But if that's what it takes, I guess, take one for the team, Steve.
00:47:58.000
Alcyon, good to see you as well, Alcyon, one of our producers.
00:48:03.160
We've seen such an amazing work from NSN slash White Australia lately, showing what can
00:48:09.680
be accomplished by uniting smaller groups under one banner.
00:48:13.000
Is there any attempt to unite like-minded nationalists in England like y'all?
00:48:17.660
Well, oh yeah, Petrol Alternative, Woodlander, et cetera, other groups, obviously, it's referencing
00:48:24.920
It seems like things are becoming more fractured, if anything.
00:48:32.720
So on the surface, I can't say too much because we're working on things behind the scenes,
00:48:36.400
but on the surface, it appears like everyone's fractured.
00:48:39.520
And there are a number of different groups, but behind the scenes, a lot of us are all working
00:48:45.140
together, a lot of us are all communicating, we're all working on projects together.
00:48:50.120
By this time next year, things will look very differently over here, but I can't say too
00:48:54.640
much at the moment, but very much so, we are all working together behind the scenes.
00:48:58.760
A lot of us all communicate, we all have phone calls, group chats, we're all in together
00:49:03.600
Like, we are all very much moving towards the same direction.
00:49:06.560
There are, I agree, there are a lot of small minor parties and activist groups, but that
00:49:11.420
doesn't mean we're not all working towards the same cause.
00:49:14.260
Yeah, I mean, when Thomas Sewell spoke, we played some in the, you know, Western Warriors
00:49:19.400
show that we do, got up yesterday, and we played a couple of things.
00:49:23.860
And I mean, he had, it's hard to say, it might have been anywhere from 25,000 to maybe 50,000
00:49:29.900
people there, some of the shots that they did, the pans in Australia, Melbourne, I think
00:49:35.060
And when he was speaking, I mean, the people were cheering on, they were applauding, they
00:49:40.300
were agreeing, there was no like, get off the stage, you know, there were a lot of people
00:49:43.520
on Twitter, though, who were like, you should never have let, you know, these Nazis in, and
00:49:49.540
It's like, well, all you, again, all you have to do is nothing, right?
00:49:54.260
All you have to do is say, okay, I don't agree with them, but at least they're on my side.
00:49:57.780
Like, now you've, now you're lining up with the replacement genocide people, you're lining
00:50:04.340
up with the shit libs, and the, you know, the Palestinian waving flag people, and the,
00:50:09.000
you know, headscarves, and the more indigenous stuff, that's more down in Australia, though,
00:50:13.460
but still, and they're, and they're not taking their side, doing their work for them, and
00:50:17.960
they still call themselves, you know, patriots, or some shit like that, like, just avoid it
00:50:21.580
then, and you do it, and you do it better, right?
00:50:25.020
But, but, but the point is, those guys were there, they made sure that the march could
00:50:29.720
continue, and a bunch of leftists tried to step in and stop them, and yes, it did turn
00:50:33.500
violent because of what the leftists did, and again, the police didn't do their job, we
00:50:36.740
played some of those clips, but they were there to ensure that these people were physically
00:50:41.440
moved out of the way so that the whole march could continue, and those, those guys were
00:50:45.760
on the front lines, like it or not, and without that, it would not have been a success like
00:50:52.940
If they wasn't there, that the main protest would have got attacked, it would have scattered,
00:50:56.400
and it would have just ended up to be in nothing.
00:51:00.160
And you can see how much, like, Thomas Saul speaking in front of that many people, standing
00:51:04.720
by his own beliefs, by putting his flag in the sand and saying, this is what I believe
00:51:10.140
He's proving it can be done, and you can, you can be in these circles.
00:51:14.140
Whether they like you or not, they have to accept him now because you're too influential
00:51:17.880
So, it's one of those cases where he's putting so much work in, as well as the rest of the
00:51:23.480
guys, that now, now that movement can enter itself in the middle of a massive, what I would
00:51:32.440
And what they've done is put themselves at the forefront of it now.
00:51:38.180
Like, that would be unheard of as years, a couple of years ago.
00:51:41.180
There's no way any of us would have expected that to happen.
00:51:48.840
And keeping that, as I said, that tip of the spear that's breaking through, making it
00:51:53.700
comfortable for all these other people to follow and just say, yeah, now I'm comfortable saying
00:51:58.600
Now I'm comfortable saying that we need remigration.
00:52:01.260
Now I'm comfortable with just calling it out as it is.
00:52:03.400
Yeah, it's because of people like this that have been doing the work and taking the
00:52:14.300
Actually, Thomas Sewell, White Australia, just had a legal defense thing.
00:52:21.160
If you guys out there want to help them out so they can continue, you know, help them
00:52:30.360
He says, everyone is fed up with the cockservatives and their never-ending fighting retreat.
00:52:35.860
It's time to get behind the vanguard or get out of the goddamn way.
00:52:52.120
If you haven't got the stomach for it, just keep your mouth shut and step out of the way.
00:52:56.300
Things are not going to be pretty moving forward, and there's going to be decisions that a lot
00:53:01.200
If you're not comfortable with it, just shut up, because the opposite is far worse.
00:53:11.280
We're going to take a break in a little bit here, but I'll drop it now.
00:53:15.400
But then there's other things like, oh, well, they kind of want you to be out there.
00:53:25.300
Will they try to use it to bring in further laws and further surveillance?
00:53:34.220
Either you fight and they do it, or you don't fight and they do it.
00:53:43.320
Drothwork, I think it is, says, thank you for that, by the way, says, I wasn't a racist
00:53:48.320
before actually experiencing, quote-unquote, diversity en masse.
00:53:51.720
So it's really our fault if we become racist, or is it?
00:53:59.360
Could it have actually have made more to do with pattern recognition?
00:54:05.860
Well, yes, and as you said, just experiences, right?
00:54:09.920
That's what's so interesting about all of this, that like, and again, I'm not coming
00:54:14.060
from this from some tinfoil hand conspiratorial view, because it's obvious that they don't
00:54:18.820
They just want us to roll over and die and be silent and just, you know, not do anything.
00:54:22.660
But I'm saying it is almost like they want, it's almost like they want to enrage us.
00:54:29.440
And that's, of course, where the arguments about, well, they want you to protest, come in
00:54:34.720
Where you're painted into a corner and someone is declaring war on you.
00:54:46.180
Okay, fine, die then, if that's what you want to do.
00:54:49.460
And I think Thomas actually said in the beginning of this speech, right?
00:54:52.840
He said, sometimes you're going to have to fight or to that effect.
00:54:57.180
Sometimes you're going to have to, there are struggles in life, and you're going to have
00:55:03.280
This is our struggle of, if not just our lifetimes, multiple generations.
00:55:09.240
A struggle for, you know, like we've never had before.
00:55:12.700
And the big question, Steve, is are we up to the challenge?
00:55:17.600
Are we going to be tough and hard enough to just get this done?
00:55:21.160
Or are we going to roll over and simply have no future for ourselves, for our children,
00:55:31.000
This is literally the final battle for our homeland, essentially.
00:55:34.180
Because when we become minorities, we lose all control over our homelands.
00:55:41.100
There's no reverse in that, then, unless there's a miracle.
00:55:44.040
So, this is the final battle, and we have to put everything on the line to it.
00:55:52.400
There's no time for, oh, this is a bit too far for me.
00:55:57.240
Like, all of that's just complete emotional nonsense.
00:56:02.100
Everyone needs to harden their hearts and just get the job done.
00:56:08.840
People just need to stop countering it and just get the job done.
00:56:15.700
We could debate it to the end of the moon and back.
00:56:19.960
We could create up all sorts of think tank organizations and so on,
00:56:25.500
But we all know it's just removing the immigrants as quickly and as effectively as possible.
00:56:31.520
Yeah, in fact, to not do that is the moral thing to do.
00:56:38.500
Look at all these lives and the countless just rapes and abuse
00:56:43.860
and everything that's happened over the last few decades here.
00:56:46.260
We're just not going to use that as ammunition for why this needs to be done.
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There might be some great people, but they can go and be great people in their own countries.
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And that's really just the final line in the sand.
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And there's no point in getting some debate, some navel-gazing, you know, Gordian.
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That's not the – that is neither here nor there.
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The only goal is taking our countries back, whatever is necessary.
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Okay, so we're going to take a little break here, Steve.
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But I do want to plug some of your stuff here, obviously.
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We're going to continue in part two in just a little bit.
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And there's some other topics that I want to cover, too.
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We'll get into the Scottish girl a little bit, that case there, too.
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There's some stuff with – yeah, there was rumors of revival of, like, the EDL.
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I'm not even sure if that's true, but it was, like, kind of going in that direction.
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We'll talk about that and many other things as well.
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So, basically, that should be launching at the end of the week.
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It's just going to be an activist pressure group focused on remigration.
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We're going to try and do things a little bit differently to how activism has been done in the UK before.
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And until we launch and I'll show you things that we've been done, it's a little bit difficult to explain.
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So we don't kind of want to give away any plans we've got.
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But, yeah, ultimately, it's just a campaign, an activist group, using as a pressure group for remigration.
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The best thing about it being an activist group rather than a party is I can be very selective about who we get involved with it.
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And I don't have to deal with all of the shot away people that join parties randomly out of the blue.
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In the meantime, obviously, follow that account as well, Remigration Now.
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