Red Ice TV - October 14, 2022


Shock And Horror Discovering You Have White People DNA


Episode Stats

Length

11 minutes

Words per Minute

183.69308

Word Count

2,102

Sentence Count

215

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

We ve all heard of the stories of people who discover that they re not the same race as they thought they were. In this episode, we ll take a look at some of the more common stories of mixed-race people who find out they ve been mistaken for another race.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Now, I saw this trending stories of people who were shocked to find that they were a different race than they thought.
00:00:05.300 Shocking and glad that they weren't white after all.
00:00:08.460 Although I could have told you that based on just looking at some of their pictures.
00:00:11.620 But let's go through a couple of these profiles that they like to focus on.
00:00:15.800 Jodi Girard, 49, grew up thinking she was white, but found out her biological father was black.
00:00:24.420 She says, I did Ancestry.com in the fall of 2018.
00:00:27.300 I found out that the man who raised me wasn't my dad and that my biological father was African-born.
00:00:33.520 A lot of these stories involve a missing father or an affair.
00:00:36.600 A close family match on Ancestry led me to him.
00:00:39.620 It turned out he had a total of nine kids, including me.
00:00:42.700 Of course he did.
00:00:43.560 My mom said that my biological father had taken advantage of her when she was married and in college.
00:00:49.240 My dad was in Vietnam at the time.
00:00:50.840 So basically, sounds like rape, right?
00:00:53.620 Interesting.
00:00:54.060 Anyway, there's John Gibilaro, 47, thought he was white.
00:01:01.820 Italian then discovered that he was Latino, well, half Puerto Rican.
00:01:05.900 They don't mention the other half because it's probably some Euro admixture.
00:01:09.600 And they don't want to own the white half these days, right?
00:01:12.240 Because it doesn't get you all the privileges.
00:01:14.100 In fact, they're happy when they learn that they're not white so they can try and cash in on these other things.
00:01:18.700 He says, I've immersed myself in the culture of Puerto Rico and talked about the underbelly of racism.
00:01:24.120 People say things in front of other white people that they might not say in front of a person of color.
00:01:28.500 I'm sure everyone thought he was a person of color, though, right?
00:01:30.800 I'm a history teacher who has always covered colonialism.
00:01:34.020 Puerto Rico is part of the U.S., but is not treated like it.
00:01:38.020 One of the positives of my experience is conveying to my students my empathy with immigrants.
00:01:42.900 It's always some anti-white spin on these.
00:01:45.400 And then lastly, here's Tony Vargas, 50, thought that for 46 years he was Hispanic.
00:01:52.200 Well, it kind of looks like it, but his DNA test indicated that he's white.
00:01:55.700 Well, Jewish.
00:01:57.560 When I called my mom, I was laughing.
00:01:59.020 I said, you won't believe this.
00:02:00.420 I told her that my results showed that I was Jewish with ancestors in Germany and Russia.
00:02:04.480 I'm not seeing any Mexican in the mix.
00:02:06.440 He's disappointed because he thought there was some Mexican, right?
00:02:09.140 Accepting the fact that I'm not Mexican has been challenging.
00:02:11.400 My Mexican heritage is tightly intertwined into a sense of self.
00:02:15.800 You don't say.
00:02:16.980 The culture is paramount to who I am.
00:02:18.940 I even co-founded an activism website called Latino Rebels to bring attention to issues affecting Latinos.
00:02:25.060 Yeah, well, now he can go grift based on the J card, the Jewish card.
00:02:28.580 But this kind of reminds me of a story.
00:02:29.900 I have a very good friend who, she's clearly European Spaniard.
00:02:34.320 She's tall.
00:02:35.080 She's pretty.
00:02:35.760 She has light eyes.
00:02:36.520 And she has a sister who's very anti-white and liberal.
00:02:39.740 And for the longest time, she thought she was Mexican, like Mexican heritage.
00:02:43.620 And I said, well, yeah, there are white people in Mexico, Spaniards in Mexico, right?
00:02:48.140 And then she got a test and found out, oh, my gosh, there's no Mexican.
00:02:51.600 And she even used to wear a shirt that said Mexican on it.
00:02:55.520 And in the test, found out that there was a 2% Ashkenazi Jew, which, of course, I had to poke some fun with my friend telling her I couldn't be friends with her anymore.
00:03:04.160 And so I said the same thing.
00:03:05.900 I said, well, now you could just have a shirt that says Jewish on it.
00:03:09.420 But I know you have another one to add here.
00:03:11.020 But I just want to say, notice how it's never, yay, I'm 100% white.
00:03:16.780 Let's celebrate that story.
00:03:18.360 It's always them being depressed about being partially white and excited when they find out they're not.
00:03:23.580 But it's kind of obvious with the way that they look.
00:03:25.640 But yay, I'm 98% white, you know, or 100% European.
00:03:30.640 I'm a pureblood or whatever.
00:03:32.060 That never happens.
00:03:32.920 Well, this guy obviously thinks he's Hispanic because he probably has Sephardic Jewish DNA, right, which is like, you know, intermixed somewhat with Portuguese, Spanish populations, I believe, right, for example.
00:03:45.800 Yeah.
00:03:46.380 He's already very mixed.
00:03:48.020 Oh, that's the thing.
00:03:48.880 And I mean, the point is, too, is with the Jewish DNA, it's one of the most mixed, apparently, like of all the ethnicities, right?
00:03:55.760 I mean, Ashkenazim, I guess, is a little different.
00:03:57.600 They have more, they've snatched up more German DNA, white-looking, you know, Northern European-looking DNA.
00:04:04.440 But, I mean, again, you can find these, you can find them on a DNA map.
00:04:08.640 They're like, they're different, you know, they're distinct kind of thing.
00:04:11.220 It reminds me of Jessica Alba, who did some DNA tests on some show.
00:04:15.100 I mean, she's just like super disappointed.
00:04:17.660 She was, wait a minute, I'm Spanish.
00:04:19.660 Are they like, like white, white-speaking?
00:04:21.060 But they're not white, they're Latinos, right?
00:04:23.940 What's going on here?
00:04:24.840 DNA testing, I mean.
00:04:26.120 It's very exciting.
00:04:27.320 So, what do you think that you are?
00:04:31.000 Probably more Native American.
00:04:32.640 Really?
00:04:33.040 Okay.
00:04:33.280 Yeah.
00:04:33.400 You are 87% European.
00:04:37.640 Really?
00:04:41.000 Wow.
00:04:41.440 So, Farrah, you are whiter than Larry David.
00:04:44.580 But, does Spain count?
00:04:51.160 Because Alba comes from Spain, like our last name.
00:04:56.820 But, I mean, is Spain, oh my God?
00:04:59.700 Or is Spain, oh my God?
00:05:01.640 Spain, no.
00:05:03.280 I don't think Spain's considered, oh my God.
00:05:05.720 All right.
00:05:06.680 I can't believe this.
00:05:07.880 This is crazy, by the way.
00:05:09.240 They don't even know that.
00:05:11.180 No, no.
00:05:11.740 They're in Europe.
00:05:12.540 They're European.
00:05:13.300 Spaniards are Europeans.
00:05:15.300 But, yeah.
00:05:16.160 So, and it's just a strange article to do by Insider.
00:05:21.400 So, this is the first article in the series of articles they did about this.
00:05:25.300 Like, I thought I was biracial my entire life.
00:05:27.780 At 43, a DNA test revealed that I'm white with Jewish ancestors.
00:05:32.800 Well, wait a minute.
00:05:33.440 Are you Jewish or are you white?
00:05:34.780 It's not the same thing, first of all.
00:05:37.120 But then, of course, what happens is the usual, you know, the, oh my God, the shock and stuff.
00:05:40.380 But then it's like this immediate, like, adaptation.
00:05:43.260 Look at what she says in here, right?
00:05:45.120 Her name is Kara Rubenstein Dyerin.
00:05:50.760 To my shock, the pie chart showed that 50% of my DNA was Ashkenazi Jewish.
00:05:57.120 It also showed that I had zero African DNA.
00:06:00.240 Oh my God.
00:06:00.660 I felt like I had been punched in the gut.
00:06:03.420 Why?
00:06:03.740 You can pick out, isn't it Jewish, like, on top of the totem pole there as far as victimhood?
00:06:10.380 She's about to find out.
00:06:11.740 That's what I, it'll be a very exciting new chapter here in her life.
00:06:14.660 Once she knew about my DNA results, speaking to her mom, I think it was her friend or something, her mom.
00:06:19.540 She told me about a, oh yeah, her mom.
00:06:21.300 She told me about a one-night stand she had with a much older Jewish man.
00:06:25.880 Oh yeah, you think?
00:06:26.680 Okay.
00:06:27.060 All right.
00:06:27.360 And she was growing up with a black father.
00:06:30.420 She always thought that he was, or she was his.
00:06:34.320 And of course he had, what did they say here?
00:06:37.140 He had kids with four other white women as well, by the way, I think it was.
00:06:41.280 Because people had always told me that I had relatively light skin.
00:06:44.520 They'd say that I'd taken after my mom, but I'd met other people of color who were as light as me.
00:06:50.720 My dad had three other children with white women.
00:06:54.600 Of course he did.
00:06:54.800 So it's not like, he had three children with another white woman.
00:06:58.380 No, with other white women.
00:06:59.920 And all of these stories, by the way, it's like, man, they were sleeping around, having affairs.
00:07:04.900 They don't remember who the dad was.
00:07:06.740 Like, great.
00:07:07.580 That's just a great story.
00:07:08.500 In a way, sure, this is the story of, you know, human history in a way you could say, right?
00:07:14.560 But no, yeah.
00:07:15.560 So because of ingenuity of white people, DNA tests, they're now able to figure out what they are, right?
00:07:21.960 Looking back, she says, I don't think I fit into a black or white household.
00:07:26.100 Things have changed now that society is more accepting.
00:07:28.440 I now realize that I was being asked to be something I wasn't.
00:07:31.980 She's talking about how she was bullied.
00:07:33.820 They call her an Oreo and a half-caste and stuff.
00:07:36.100 And it's like, well, she didn't look that black.
00:07:38.560 Is this just lies?
00:07:39.300 She didn't look black at all.
00:07:39.940 Yeah.
00:07:40.720 Here's a picture of her right there.
00:07:41.480 I don't see any black there.
00:07:42.700 What are you talking about?
00:07:44.080 I'm like, Oreo.
00:07:45.340 My husband, Marcus, and my...
00:07:46.840 I definitely see the Jewish, though.
00:07:48.480 Yes.
00:07:49.100 Yes.
00:07:49.600 My husband, Marcus, and my therapist have helped me understand what it means to be Jewish.
00:07:55.460 I need to acknowledge my history and legally...
00:07:57.840 She's probably Jewish, yeah.
00:07:58.800 I need to acknowledge my history and legally change my name last October.
00:08:03.820 It now includes my biological father's name.
00:08:06.260 I went to an introduction to Judaism or Judaism class, and I converted last year.
00:08:11.000 She's got the star on and everything.
00:08:12.640 Right away.
00:08:13.120 Right away.
00:08:13.160 Boom.
00:08:13.600 Right in there.
00:08:14.440 New identity.
00:08:14.780 This is great.
00:08:15.680 Did we survive the Holocaust?
00:08:17.540 You know, like the whole package is there.
00:08:18.840 But then these same people will turn around to us and be like, what do you mean white identity?
00:08:22.880 What do you mean European identity?
00:08:24.980 Yeah.
00:08:25.140 Do they do the same when they're white?
00:08:27.120 Like, oh, I discovered I started reading about Celts.
00:08:30.580 I'm German.
00:08:31.460 I started reading all about Germanic history and culture.
00:08:34.560 I went back to old Celtic ancient spiritual traditions, and I started practicing those.
00:08:39.640 Not in the mainstream.
00:08:40.400 You don't hear that.
00:08:41.660 And so, of course, she as well.
00:08:42.800 You mentioned this other organization.
00:08:44.060 This woman founded a nonprofit called Right to Know to try to lobby the U.S. government
00:08:48.820 that they need to be forced to give up details of who it was that, like, who their biological
00:08:54.340 parents are and stuff like that.
00:08:55.780 Yeah.
00:08:55.940 And she tells a story as well about how her dad's side didn't want anything to do with
00:08:59.980 her because, like, it was a blemish of his profile, I guess.
00:09:04.800 Like, they just kind of pushed her away or whatever.
00:09:07.140 That's anti-Semitic to say.
00:09:08.720 Right.
00:09:09.060 Exactly right.
00:09:09.580 But anyway, so it's a huge, like, cathartic experience and, like, she says at the end
00:09:15.220 here, meanwhile, I continue to work on my sense of belonging, but I feel a lot more comfortable
00:09:20.480 with who I am and how I look.
00:09:21.980 I finally have context.
00:09:24.080 So they're all confused and stuff.
00:09:25.540 They would never do a story like this on white people.
00:09:28.240 You know what I mean?
00:09:28.700 That, like, you know, oh, it was great to find out I was white.
00:09:32.420 Oh, my God.
00:09:32.960 This is crazy.
00:09:33.580 And to know, like, I'm majority Swedish or, you know, Russian or German or something.
00:09:38.260 Now I'm going to look into that part of my culture and heritage and honor that.
00:09:42.360 No.
00:09:42.860 Yeah.
00:09:43.060 I mean, in and of itself, it's not a super important article and stuff.
00:09:45.600 It's more kind of, in one way, it's funny, but then it's also just a small slice of the
00:09:51.620 kinds of things that people experience in everyday life when they either read a story or, and
00:09:57.400 it's the trickle, not the bomb, so to speak.
00:10:00.520 I see these a lot coming out now.
00:10:01.940 Yeah, things like this, right?
00:10:03.060 But it's like this, just this relentless trickle of stories like this that, like, somehow
00:10:08.420 they continuously plant the seed that it's like, it's basically bad to find out that
00:10:12.860 you're white.
00:10:13.340 You know what I mean?
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