Red Ice TV - October 14, 2022


Shock And Horror Discovering You Have White People DNA


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11 minutes

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2,102

Sentence count

215

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Misogyny

9

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5

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We ve all heard of the stories of people who discover that they re not the same race as they thought they were. In this episode, we ll take a look at some of the more common stories of mixed-race people who find out they ve been mistaken for another race.

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00:00:00.000 Now, I saw this trending stories of people who were shocked to find that they were a different race than they thought.
00:00:05.300 Shocking and glad that they weren't white after all. 1.00
00:00:08.460 Although I could have told you that based on just looking at some of their pictures.
00:00:11.620 But let's go through a couple of these profiles that they like to focus on.
00:00:15.800 Jodi Girard, 49, grew up thinking she was white, but found out her biological father was black.
00:00:24.420 She says, I did Ancestry.com in the fall of 2018.
00:00:27.300 I found out that the man who raised me wasn't my dad and that my biological father was African-born.
00:00:33.520 A lot of these stories involve a missing father or an affair.
00:00:36.600 A close family match on Ancestry led me to him.
00:00:39.620 It turned out he had a total of nine kids, including me.
00:00:42.700 Of course he did.
00:00:43.560 My mom said that my biological father had taken advantage of her when she was married and in college.
00:00:49.240 My dad was in Vietnam at the time.
00:00:50.840 So basically, sounds like rape, right?
00:00:53.620 Interesting. 0.98
00:00:54.060 Anyway, there's John Gibilaro, 47, thought he was white.
00:01:01.820 Italian then discovered that he was Latino, well, half Puerto Rican.
00:01:05.900 They don't mention the other half because it's probably some Euro admixture.
00:01:09.600 And they don't want to own the white half these days, right? 0.98
00:01:12.240 Because it doesn't get you all the privileges.
00:01:14.100 In fact, they're happy when they learn that they're not white so they can try and cash in on these other things. 0.98
00:01:18.700 He says, I've immersed myself in the culture of Puerto Rico and talked about the underbelly of racism.
00:01:24.120 People say things in front of other white people that they might not say in front of a person of color.
00:01:28.500 I'm sure everyone thought he was a person of color, though, right?
00:01:30.800 I'm a history teacher who has always covered colonialism.
00:01:34.020 Puerto Rico is part of the U.S., but is not treated like it.
00:01:38.020 One of the positives of my experience is conveying to my students my empathy with immigrants.
00:01:42.900 It's always some anti-white spin on these.
00:01:45.400 And then lastly, here's Tony Vargas, 50, thought that for 46 years he was Hispanic.
00:01:52.200 Well, it kind of looks like it, but his DNA test indicated that he's white.
00:01:55.700 Well, Jewish. 0.91
00:01:57.560 When I called my mom, I was laughing.
00:01:59.020 I said, you won't believe this.
00:02:00.420 I told her that my results showed that I was Jewish with ancestors in Germany and Russia.
00:02:04.480 I'm not seeing any Mexican in the mix.
00:02:06.440 He's disappointed because he thought there was some Mexican, right?
00:02:09.140 Accepting the fact that I'm not Mexican has been challenging.
00:02:11.400 My Mexican heritage is tightly intertwined into a sense of self.
00:02:15.800 You don't say.
00:02:16.980 The culture is paramount to who I am.
00:02:18.940 I even co-founded an activism website called Latino Rebels to bring attention to issues affecting Latinos.
00:02:25.060 Yeah, well, now he can go grift based on the J card, the Jewish card. 0.97
00:02:28.580 But this kind of reminds me of a story.
00:02:29.900 I have a very good friend who, she's clearly European Spaniard. 0.99
00:02:34.320 She's tall.
00:02:35.080 She's pretty. 0.99
00:02:35.760 She has light eyes.
00:02:36.520 And she has a sister who's very anti-white and liberal.
00:02:39.740 And for the longest time, she thought she was Mexican, like Mexican heritage.
00:02:43.620 And I said, well, yeah, there are white people in Mexico, Spaniards in Mexico, right?
00:02:48.140 And then she got a test and found out, oh, my gosh, there's no Mexican.
00:02:51.600 And she even used to wear a shirt that said Mexican on it. 1.00
00:02:55.520 And in the test, found out that there was a 2% Ashkenazi Jew, which, of course, I had to poke some fun with my friend telling her I couldn't be friends with her anymore. 0.94
00:03:04.160 And so I said the same thing.
00:03:05.900 I said, well, now you could just have a shirt that says Jewish on it.
00:03:09.420 But I know you have another one to add here.
00:03:11.020 But I just want to say, notice how it's never, yay, I'm 100% white.
00:03:16.780 Let's celebrate that story.
00:03:18.360 It's always them being depressed about being partially white and excited when they find out they're not. 0.89
00:03:23.580 But it's kind of obvious with the way that they look.
00:03:25.640 But yay, I'm 98% white, you know, or 100% European.
00:03:30.640 I'm a pureblood or whatever.
00:03:32.060 That never happens.
00:03:32.920 Well, this guy obviously thinks he's Hispanic because he probably has Sephardic Jewish DNA, right, which is like, you know, intermixed somewhat with Portuguese, Spanish populations, I believe, right, for example.
00:03:45.800 Yeah.
00:03:46.380 He's already very mixed.
00:03:48.020 Oh, that's the thing.
00:03:48.880 And I mean, the point is, too, is with the Jewish DNA, it's one of the most mixed, apparently, like of all the ethnicities, right?
00:03:55.760 I mean, Ashkenazim, I guess, is a little different.
00:03:57.600 They have more, they've snatched up more German DNA, white-looking, you know, Northern European-looking DNA. 0.97
00:04:04.440 But, I mean, again, you can find these, you can find them on a DNA map.
00:04:08.640 They're like, they're different, you know, they're distinct kind of thing.
00:04:11.220 It reminds me of Jessica Alba, who did some DNA tests on some show. 0.97
00:04:15.100 I mean, she's just like super disappointed.
00:04:17.660 She was, wait a minute, I'm Spanish. 0.54
00:04:19.660 Are they like, like white, white-speaking?
00:04:21.060 But they're not white, they're Latinos, right?
00:04:23.940 What's going on here?
00:04:24.840 DNA testing, I mean.
00:04:26.120 It's very exciting.
00:04:27.320 So, what do you think that you are?
00:04:31.000 Probably more Native American.
00:04:32.640 Really?
00:04:33.040 Okay.
00:04:33.280 Yeah.
00:04:33.400 You are 87% European.
00:04:37.640 Really?
00:04:41.000 Wow.
00:04:41.440 So, Farrah, you are whiter than Larry David.
00:04:44.580 But, does Spain count?
00:04:51.160 Because Alba comes from Spain, like our last name.
00:04:56.820 But, I mean, is Spain, oh my God?
00:04:59.700 Or is Spain, oh my God?
00:05:01.640 Spain, no.
00:05:03.280 I don't think Spain's considered, oh my God.
00:05:05.720 All right.
00:05:06.680 I can't believe this.
00:05:07.880 This is crazy, by the way.
00:05:09.240 They don't even know that.
00:05:11.180 No, no.
00:05:11.740 They're in Europe. 0.65
00:05:12.540 They're European. 0.55
00:05:13.300 Spaniards are Europeans. 0.99
00:05:15.300 But, yeah.
00:05:16.160 So, and it's just a strange article to do by Insider.
00:05:21.400 So, this is the first article in the series of articles they did about this.
00:05:25.300 Like, I thought I was biracial my entire life.
00:05:27.780 At 43, a DNA test revealed that I'm white with Jewish ancestors.
00:05:32.800 Well, wait a minute.
00:05:33.440 Are you Jewish or are you white?
00:05:34.780 It's not the same thing, first of all.
00:05:37.120 But then, of course, what happens is the usual, you know, the, oh my God, the shock and stuff.
00:05:40.380 But then it's like this immediate, like, adaptation.
00:05:43.260 Look at what she says in here, right?
00:05:45.120 Her name is Kara Rubenstein Dyerin.
00:05:50.760 To my shock, the pie chart showed that 50% of my DNA was Ashkenazi Jewish.
00:05:57.120 It also showed that I had zero African DNA.
00:06:00.240 Oh my God.
00:06:00.660 I felt like I had been punched in the gut.
00:06:03.420 Why?
00:06:03.740 You can pick out, isn't it Jewish, like, on top of the totem pole there as far as victimhood? 1.00
00:06:10.380 She's about to find out.
00:06:11.740 That's what I, it'll be a very exciting new chapter here in her life.
00:06:14.660 Once she knew about my DNA results, speaking to her mom, I think it was her friend or something, her mom.
00:06:19.540 She told me about a, oh yeah, her mom.
00:06:21.300 She told me about a one-night stand she had with a much older Jewish man.
00:06:25.880 Oh yeah, you think?
00:06:26.680 Okay.
00:06:27.060 All right. 0.92
00:06:27.360 And she was growing up with a black father.
00:06:30.420 She always thought that he was, or she was his.
00:06:34.320 And of course he had, what did they say here?
00:06:37.140 He had kids with four other white women as well, by the way, I think it was.
00:06:41.280 Because people had always told me that I had relatively light skin.
00:06:44.520 They'd say that I'd taken after my mom, but I'd met other people of color who were as light as me.
00:06:50.720 My dad had three other children with white women. 0.99
00:06:54.600 Of course he did.
00:06:54.800 So it's not like, he had three children with another white woman.
00:06:58.380 No, with other white women. 1.00
00:06:59.920 And all of these stories, by the way, it's like, man, they were sleeping around, having affairs.
00:07:04.900 They don't remember who the dad was.
00:07:06.740 Like, great.
00:07:07.580 That's just a great story.
00:07:08.500 In a way, sure, this is the story of, you know, human history in a way you could say, right?
00:07:14.560 But no, yeah.
00:07:15.560 So because of ingenuity of white people, DNA tests, they're now able to figure out what they are, right? 1.00
00:07:21.960 Looking back, she says, I don't think I fit into a black or white household.
00:07:26.100 Things have changed now that society is more accepting.
00:07:28.440 I now realize that I was being asked to be something I wasn't.
00:07:31.980 She's talking about how she was bullied.
00:07:33.820 They call her an Oreo and a half-caste and stuff. 0.99
00:07:36.100 And it's like, well, she didn't look that black. 0.87
00:07:38.560 Is this just lies? 0.83
00:07:39.300 She didn't look black at all.
00:07:39.940 Yeah.
00:07:40.720 Here's a picture of her right there.
00:07:41.480 I don't see any black there.
00:07:42.700 What are you talking about? 0.90
00:07:44.080 I'm like, Oreo.
00:07:45.340 My husband, Marcus, and my...
00:07:46.840 I definitely see the Jewish, though.
00:07:48.480 Yes.
00:07:49.100 Yes.
00:07:49.600 My husband, Marcus, and my therapist have helped me understand what it means to be Jewish.
00:07:55.460 I need to acknowledge my history and legally...
00:07:57.840 She's probably Jewish, yeah.
00:07:58.800 I need to acknowledge my history and legally change my name last October.
00:08:03.820 It now includes my biological father's name.
00:08:06.260 I went to an introduction to Judaism or Judaism class, and I converted last year.
00:08:11.000 She's got the star on and everything.
00:08:12.640 Right away.
00:08:13.120 Right away.
00:08:13.160 Boom.
00:08:13.600 Right in there.
00:08:14.440 New identity.
00:08:14.780 This is great.
00:08:15.680 Did we survive the Holocaust? 0.90
00:08:17.540 You know, like the whole package is there.
00:08:18.840 But then these same people will turn around to us and be like, what do you mean white identity?
00:08:22.880 What do you mean European identity?
00:08:24.980 Yeah.
00:08:25.140 Do they do the same when they're white? 0.83
00:08:27.120 Like, oh, I discovered I started reading about Celts.
00:08:30.580 I'm German.
00:08:31.460 I started reading all about Germanic history and culture.
00:08:34.560 I went back to old Celtic ancient spiritual traditions, and I started practicing those.
00:08:39.640 Not in the mainstream.
00:08:40.400 You don't hear that.
00:08:41.660 And so, of course, she as well.
00:08:42.800 You mentioned this other organization.
00:08:44.060 This woman founded a nonprofit called Right to Know to try to lobby the U.S. government 1.00
00:08:48.820 that they need to be forced to give up details of who it was that, like, who their biological
00:08:54.340 parents are and stuff like that.
00:08:55.780 Yeah.
00:08:55.940 And she tells a story as well about how her dad's side didn't want anything to do with
00:08:59.980 her because, like, it was a blemish of his profile, I guess.
00:09:04.800 Like, they just kind of pushed her away or whatever.
00:09:07.140 That's anti-Semitic to say.
00:09:08.720 Right.
00:09:09.060 Exactly right.
00:09:09.580 But anyway, so it's a huge, like, cathartic experience and, like, she says at the end
00:09:15.220 here, meanwhile, I continue to work on my sense of belonging, but I feel a lot more comfortable
00:09:20.480 with who I am and how I look.
00:09:21.980 I finally have context.
00:09:24.080 So they're all confused and stuff.
00:09:25.540 They would never do a story like this on white people.
00:09:28.240 You know what I mean?
00:09:28.700 That, like, you know, oh, it was great to find out I was white. 0.91
00:09:32.420 Oh, my God.
00:09:32.960 This is crazy.
00:09:33.580 And to know, like, I'm majority Swedish or, you know, Russian or German or something.
00:09:38.260 Now I'm going to look into that part of my culture and heritage and honor that.
00:09:42.360 No.
00:09:42.860 Yeah.
00:09:43.060 I mean, in and of itself, it's not a super important article and stuff.
00:09:45.600 It's more kind of, in one way, it's funny, but then it's also just a small slice of the
00:09:51.620 kinds of things that people experience in everyday life when they either read a story or, and
00:09:57.400 it's the trickle, not the bomb, so to speak.
00:10:00.520 I see these a lot coming out now.
00:10:01.940 Yeah, things like this, right?
00:10:03.060 But it's like this, just this relentless trickle of stories like this that, like, somehow
00:10:08.420 they continuously plant the seed that it's like, it's basically bad to find out that
00:10:12.860 you're white. 0.89
00:10:13.340 You know what I mean?
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