Red Ice TV - Taking Back Our Land - Woodlander

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00:04:00.000 Give us a little background and kind of, I guess, how you ended up where you are today, running the initiative, the Woodlander initiative that you do and kind of what got you to that point?

00:04:07.880 Well, I'm not going to go into my backstory.

00:04:13.880 It'll take far too long.

00:04:21.880 Two acres of woodland, two acres of woodland, two acres of woodland, two acres of woodland, two acres of woodland, which doesn't sound very much.

00:04:28.880 It's a bedroom cabin for me and I went off grid.

00:04:36.880 It was a steep learning curve, it was a steep learning curve, an eye-opener and opened up more opportunities than I thought it would.

00:04:48.300 And so I ended up in a position where I was rent-free, and I had no outgoings or very, very little outgoings.

00:04:59.300 So I had no electricity bill.

00:05:01.300 So I had no electricity bill, and the big one is the mortgage and rent for most people these days, and I didn't have that.

00:05:09.300 So it put me in a position where I could choose to work the same or longer hours and have a lot more income or to reduce the amount I worked and actually have much more time to spend living life and actually doing things I enjoyed.

00:05:30.300 So that was, and then COVID hit.

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00:05:38.300 And what happened then is a lot of people kind of started looking for ways out of an oppressive system.

00:05:47.300 They saw what the governments, not just in this country but around the world, could do and were shaping up to continue to do.

00:05:57.300 So a lot of people started looking at how can we get out of this?

00:06:01.300 How can we put ourselves in the situation?

00:06:03.300 And what I had already done became much more popular then.

00:06:08.300 I started a YouTube channel.

00:06:13.300 People were talking, contacting me on there, and it started with me helping individuals.

00:06:20.300 So in the first sort of 12 months, I probably helped 10 individuals do the same thing as what I had done.

00:06:28.300 Buy some land, buy the right land, and follow a path where you can go off grid.

00:06:34.300 And that grew and grew, and I continued to help individuals.

00:06:38.300 And then I was getting people that wanted to do it as a group.

00:06:43.300 So during the second lockdown, I held the first meeting.

00:06:52.300 That was five years ago now.

00:06:55.300 We managed to get 50 people in a location in the centre of the country at a time where you weren't allowed to leave your house or travel further than five miles.

00:07:06.300 So to get 50 people to a location and book a hall and get us all in there took some doing, but we did manage it.

00:07:15.300 And we spent the day talking about how we could do this as a group.

00:07:21.300 And it kind of grew from there.

00:07:23.300 So we ended up with a group of people that wanted to form a community.

00:07:28.300 And these were all indigenous to England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.

00:07:35.300 So these were natives of this country.

00:07:40.300 How could we, as a group of people, create something for ourselves?

00:07:47.300 And we started to look for land.

00:07:49.300 And we started to pool our resources and skills, money, and putting offers on land.

00:07:57.300 And we were outbid maybe four or five times in the first year we'd started.

00:08:04.300 So we started looking at who was outbidding us on this land and why this was happening.

00:08:11.300 And it turned out that in every instance, it was large corporations that were buying up the land.

00:08:17.300 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:18.300 And they were buying up the land literally to take it out of circulation.

00:08:23.300 So they were buying it for greenwashing.

00:08:26.300 So we've got 10 acres of woodland.

00:08:29.300 We can now run our fleet of cars, offset the carbon, and, you know, continues to do it.

00:08:34.300 And it doesn't affect our credit score.

00:08:38.300 And they were buying it to bank.

00:08:41.300 So they're buying farmland, taking it out of circulation so it wouldn't be able to be used as far.

00:08:47.300 And just banking that land in the knowledge that property looks as if it's kind of hit its peak.

00:08:55.300 So they were looking for another avenue.

00:08:57.300 So we were looking at, okay, how do we compete with these companies?

00:09:06.300 The agents we were talking to were quite upfront with us.

00:09:09.300 And they were like, look, the people selling this land would much rather deal with a company than an individual.

00:09:17.300 And that's because these little people, they come along all the time.

00:09:21.300 They bid a hundred thousand pounds on this land.

00:09:23.300 And then when it comes to actually buying, they haven't got enough money and they fall out and they drop out.

00:09:27.300 And that happens all the time.

00:09:29.300 But they don't have that problem with a company.

00:09:31.300 So we were, okay, we'll form a company, which I did.

00:09:37.300 So I went away and I thought, look, if I'm going to do this, because I've just spent 20 years working my way out of the system.

00:09:47.300 And now I had to make a choice, which was, do I just let other people dwindle on on their own?

00:09:56.300 Or do I bite the bullet and step back into the system?

00:10:02.300 And I made the decision to do it.

00:10:06.300 And I knew full well what would happen down the road.

00:10:10.300 I knew that there were personal attacks because of my history.

00:10:15.300 But I figured that was, you know, I'm at an age now where I can I can take that.

00:10:21.300 It wasn't going to affect my job.

00:10:23.300 I'm self-employed.

00:10:24.300 I'm going to fire myself.

00:10:25.300 So there wasn't.

00:10:27.300 And I was in quite a healthy position.

00:10:30.300 Being off grid insofar as whatever they did, they can't take away my land, my house, whatever.

00:10:39.300 I don't owe a penny on anything.

00:10:41.300 I'm completely debt free.

00:10:43.300 So I decided to jump back in.

00:10:46.300 I took some legal advice on the best way forward.

00:10:51.300 And it's this is an odd thing.

00:10:55.300 As I did this, the the private members association linked to a limited company that could buy the land.

00:11:05.300 And I'm sure it's similar in the States, in the UK.

00:11:10.300 It is only an individual or a corporation that can buy land.

00:11:15.300 You can't buy it as a club.

00:11:17.300 So we had to have a company.

00:11:20.300 So I formed a company.

00:11:21.300 I then formed a private members association that could vet members and hold them.

00:11:27.300 Because the PMA is un-corporated, it's not a corporation, different rules apply.

00:11:35.300 So that allowed us to say things like, OK, we're here to help the British people.

00:11:41.300 And the people we want to join are the English, Welsh, Scots and Irish.

00:11:49.300 And we recognize these people as distinct groups.

00:11:53.300 And we are pro nationalist and pro local as well.

00:11:59.300 So we're backing nationalism and localism in direct opposition to globalism.

00:12:05.300 As a limited company only, it's very difficult to say anything like that,

00:12:11.300 because it breaches so many of the laws set out in this country in the UK, which is why we've got the PMA.

00:12:19.300 We can make it plain at the start.

00:12:21.300 But we've still got to tread very carefully.

00:12:24.300 We can't break any laws.

00:12:25.300 And we've got to be careful what we say.

00:12:27.300 And it's much stricter in the UK than it is in America.

00:12:32.300 We haven't got the First Amendment.

00:12:34.300 We really haven't got freedom of speech over here anymore.

00:12:38.300 But we put it together.

00:12:41.300 And we did it slightly different to RTL.

00:12:44.300 What we wanted to do was just to start buying that land, to give ourselves a place where we could meet.

00:12:53.300 And we could use that land from day one to do anything we wanted on it.

00:12:57.300 We can meet there and go for weekends camping.

00:13:00.300 We can use it to grow our own food, which is preferable to buying stuff in a supermarket.

00:13:06.300 We can use it to raise livestock.

00:13:08.300 So we could use it for all of these different things.

00:13:11.300 But more importantly, it was ours, which gave us the right to say who came onto that land.

00:13:21.300 And more importantly, who could not come onto that land.

00:13:25.300 And it had been a long time since we'd been in that position.

00:13:30.300 So it was very attractive.

00:13:32.300 And we bought our first plot and then we bought our second plot.

00:13:36.300 We've got two others.

00:13:39.300 And we want to get land in every single county in the country,

00:13:44.300 which will give people a chance to move around the country, to meet different people, to network, to have somewhere to stay.

00:13:53.300 And we're looking at how can we get homes on this land.

00:13:56.300 And there are ways.

00:13:58.300 But again, it's not like America. 0.56

00:14:00.300 We can't just buy land and build on it.

00:14:02.300 The rules and regulations are incredibly strict.

00:14:05.300 Yeah.

00:14:06.300 But as with everything, if you can think outside the box, there are ways we can do it.

00:14:12.300 And that's what we're looking at.

00:14:14.300 So we're at a point now where we've got our first four plots of land.

00:14:18.300 We've got a really good group of members who are donating money on a monthly basis.

00:14:25.300 And it's growing.

00:14:27.300 And we're just hitting the negative press at the moment.

00:14:31.300 Yeah.

00:14:32.300 I was going to ask you about that, too, because obviously we've had, you know, a bunch of stuff popping off with our wall and return to land over in the in the States.

00:14:42.300 Has there been any prior pressure?

00:14:43.300 Because I did a rough Google search.

00:14:45.300 And at least on the top, I think it's like the, you know, your website is second.

00:14:49.300 And the first one is basically like the registration.

00:14:52.300 I think of.

00:14:53.300 Right.

00:14:54.300 What's that?

00:14:55.300 Hope not eight.

00:14:56.300 It's probably about the second or third.

00:14:59.300 Three or fourth now or something like that.

00:15:01.300 Yeah.

00:15:02.300 But still, it seems fairly okay so far.

00:15:04.300 How has it been?

00:15:05.300 And what's the reason for this to increase now recently, as you said?

00:15:10.300 Well, it's over the last couple of weeks, it has been interesting.

00:15:14.300 So we have the obvious one, which is hope not hate, which is a far left activist organization in the UK.

00:15:20.300 And they really it's a doxing organization.

00:15:24.300 But it is very difficult for them to dox me insofar as I was face out from day one because I knew this was going to happen.

00:15:31.300 And I've made no no.

00:15:34.300 I haven't tried to hide what I've done in my past.

00:15:37.300 So I told everyone that, you know, 40 years ago, I was a member of the British National Party.

00:15:42.300 And later on in my life, I joined the Conservative Party.

00:15:45.300 I was put forward as a counselor.

00:15:47.300 I sat on all different committees for them.

00:15:49.300 And there was reasons for joining that party at the time.

00:15:53.300 And I've been up front about what I'm trying to do now.

00:15:58.300 So there's very little they can say, but all they do is throw the same old buzzwords, which is, you know, racist, fascist, Nazi, bigger, far right.

00:16:10.300 And they don't substantiate anything.

00:16:13.300 But they know that those words will in some way have a negative connotation with the majority of the public.

00:16:23.300 Right.

00:16:24.300 The good thing from our point of view is no one reads their stuff at all.

00:16:28.300 Yeah.

00:16:29.300 Apart from us.

00:16:30.300 Yeah, we we keep up with it.

00:16:32.300 Maybe I have stopped.

00:16:33.300 But yeah, I get your point.

00:16:35.300 Yeah.

00:16:36.300 So that was fine.

00:16:38.300 But in the last week, we've had a couple of press articles done.

00:16:41.300 And I'm fairly sure that it's a concerted effort, both against RTL in America and against what we're doing in the UK.

00:16:49.300 I can't see that it's coincidental that they happened at the same time as well.

00:16:54.300 So you've got Sky News, one broke in America.

00:16:57.300 And then the Times in the UK did an article on us.

00:17:00.300 And it's the biggest paper in the UK.

00:17:02.300 And then the Daily Mail, which is the largest red top newspaper.

00:17:09.300 What's been interesting is I put out a press statement.

00:17:15.300 I put it on the website to answer what they'd said.

00:17:19.300 And I sent it to a smaller Welsh paper that are just really a cut and paste article saying the same things.

00:17:28.300 And they were good enough to contact us and say, look, we didn't do any research.

00:17:35.300 We just cut and pasted what was printed before.

00:17:39.300 But we have looked at your website.

00:17:42.300 And we have looked at what you're doing and what you've done.

00:17:46.300 And we're going to reprint the article.

00:17:49.300 And they reprinted it.

00:17:51.300 And it was a much fairer article.

00:17:55.300 And that's the first time I think I've ever seen that happen.

00:17:59.300 So that's a step in the right direction.

00:18:03.300 It wasn't a perfect article.

00:18:04.300 It wasn't an advertisement.

00:18:06.300 But the difference in headline was good.

00:18:12.300 And the content sort of talked about the stuff I just said there.

00:18:16.300 So here's a group of people that want to associate with each other.

00:18:20.300 They talk about ancestry, heritage and tradition.

00:18:24.300 They want to get back to the land and to a traditional way of living based on traditional values, family and nature.

00:18:33.300 They want to look after the land that they purchase and ensure that it isn't used for solar farms and wind farms and not taken out of use so that people can actually enjoy it and work it, which is how we used to live.

00:18:51.300 To have that imprint by a mainstream source is quite a positive step forward.

00:18:59.300 So I can't, as much as I doubt we'll ever get a reply or an apology from The Times, it is good to see that these smaller newspapers may be willing to listen.

00:19:15.300 And I think RTTL in states and us are going to have to have, what's happening, there's an argument coming up about freedom of association.

00:19:28.300 Yeah. Yep.

00:19:30.300 And it's going to be a very difficult one for the system to win.

00:19:35.300 Because everybody else is allowed freedom of association.

00:19:40.300 And in fact, it's encouraged.

00:19:42.300 Yes.

00:19:43.300 So are we even allowed to join together and associate together?

00:19:49.300 Are we allowed to do that?

00:19:51.300 Because if we are, there's nothing wrong in what we're doing.

00:19:54.300 And they have to admit that.

00:19:56.300 If they actually look at what we're doing, right, which is permaculture, sustainable living, growing organic vegetables, how do you knock that?

00:20:08.300 You can't.

00:20:10.300 So what they can do, what they try to do is say, yes, but it's all white people. 0.65

00:20:14.300 And my argument is, well, we've never made that explicit because we're not allowed to use that word.

00:20:22.300 I can't say it's only for white people.

00:20:25.300 What I've said is this is for the British people.

00:20:29.300 And we recognize that the British people are a distinct group.

00:20:32.300 And the group is the English, the Welsh, the Irish, and the Scottish.

00:20:37.300 And they're all ethnicities.

00:20:40.300 If those ethnicities happen to be white, that's not a bad thing. 1.00

00:20:46.300 I don't have to be explicit.

00:20:49.300 It's implicit.

00:20:51.300 And they can't argue against it.

00:20:54.300 The only thing they're going to be able to do is say, you cannot have freedom of association.

00:21:01.300 And if they do that, it's going to be blatantly obvious to everybody.

00:21:08.300 And I don't think they want to have that argument.

00:21:11.300 I really don't think they want to because it's an unwinnable one for them.

00:21:15.300 Yeah, it's that necessary step where, if nothing else, just to make it even more blatantly clear and obvious to everyone around who might or might not be observing this, right, when you do get the media pieces like this, to see what a different level, what a different standard that we as European stock, white people, the different ethnicities you mentioned that populate Europe, that we are held to compared to everyone else, right?

00:21:44.300 We know what they think about us.

00:21:48.300 We know that they don't like when we organize.

00:21:50.300 We know all these things.

00:21:51.300 But it's good to get that in black and white and get it on paper.

00:21:54.300 And the more blatantly obvious it gets, it erodes any kind of question marks that people might have.

00:22:00.300 And I spoke with Arwal about that, too.

00:22:03.300 It's like, if nothing else, I mean, even if we start up these groups and they're shut down by government, even though, you know, and maybe we can show that it's unlawful in the way that they're approaching the topic, but they don't care anymore.

00:22:16.300 They will go after us in this way and continue to set them up and continue to do it over and over.

00:22:20.300 It's a Sisyphean task, if that's the right word for it in a sense.

00:22:24.300 But that's just what it is.

00:22:25.300 That's our situation, right?

00:22:27.300 Well, what's been really encouraging is that it's now possible to say, actually, you're incorrect.

00:22:36.300 OK, and I've directed these press organizers.

00:22:39.300 What you've said is incorrect.

00:22:41.300 And if you want to read the website, the information's there.

00:22:44.300 It's all open and it's all legal.

00:22:47.300 And what you've printed is incorrect.

00:22:50.300 But they won't buy that.

00:22:52.300 They just use their buzzwords, right?

00:22:57.300 Even if they don't hurt us, they know they will affect the general public.

00:23:04.300 So they will say fascist, racist, far right, Nazi, whatever, based on no information whatsoever, no research, but they know that will have the desired effect for them.

00:23:19.300 And yet, the talk radio piece that was done about us last week had around 200 to 300 comments below it.

00:23:32.300 And 96% of them were pro what we were doing.

00:23:38.300 Yeah, I'm not surprised.

00:23:40.300 That wasn't members of our organization.

00:23:43.300 Right.

00:23:44.300 Those comments were on there kind of scrolling as the talk was going on.

00:23:50.300 And it was positive comment after positive comment after positive comment.

00:23:54.300 People saying, hang on a minute, how is these people getting together, buying their own land, right, and working together as a group?

00:24:01.300 How is that racist?

00:24:02.300 Or like, actually, what are they doing that's wrong?

00:24:05.300 Or, you know, where do I sign up?

00:24:08.300 You know, I want to be a part of this.

00:24:10.300 Yeah.

00:24:11.300 If it can get me out of the city and out of the hell hole I'm living in, right, sign me up tomorrow.

00:24:16.300 Yeah.

00:24:17.300 No, exactly.

00:24:18.300 Yeah.

00:24:19.300 I think people are noticing more and more what's permissible and what is not for people of European stock.

00:24:25.300 You know what I mean?

00:24:26.300 And this has been obvious to us for a long time.

00:24:28.300 And, of course, you as well have been very well aware of this.

00:24:31.300 And so this is also not some kind of like a last resort thing, but you've done many videos and you've talked about this too, right?

00:24:38.300 Kind of the changing environment, right, when it comes to the discussion around demographics, about immigration.

00:24:46.300 There's now political parties.

00:24:48.300 I mean, even to dive into some of the recent stuff.

00:24:51.300 But even Akir Starmer is like, we, I made a comment a while ago, we risk of becoming an island of strangers, right?

00:24:57.300 He mentioned a while back.

00:24:58.300 He's like, well, that's kind of done already in a way, right?

00:25:01.300 But regardless, I'm saying it's a change.

00:25:03.300 It's an environmental change and things are happening.

00:25:06.300 Now, you had an interesting twist to that, which is they're actually, as the immigration is more than ever.

00:25:11.300 I think I read a piece yesterday.

00:25:13.300 There's more, they call them small boat crossings, right?

00:25:16.300 Because across the English Channel between France and England, there's more now than ever, despite all the rhetoric,

00:25:23.300 despite all the nationalist parties, despite all the protests, despite the activism.

00:25:27.300 And it's this interesting dynamic where, in one hand, they seem to concede on some of the points that it's almost permissible to protest some of these things.

00:25:35.300 Maybe not protest, but at least speak up against it, right?

00:25:37.300 You've seen a change in discourse.

00:25:38.300 Now, ultimately, I think that's good because that normalizes what obviously needs to be normalized.

00:25:44.300 But at the same time, you're also warning kind of on this issue that, like, they basically want to get you mad.

00:25:50.300 They want to try to pull you out of the woodwork.

00:25:52.300 They want you out on the streets.

00:25:54.300 They want you to burn down buildings and fight with the police because this is happening in unison with the emerging police state and surveillance state in the UK, right?

00:26:04.300 Tell us about that a little bit.

00:26:06.300 Yeah.

00:26:07.300 I mean, you've kind of got it nailed there.

00:26:10.300 I've been worried for quite a while.

00:26:13.300 The British public are rightly angry about what's been happening, not just with illegal immigration, which is beyond a joke now. 0.86

00:26:25.300 We've got 1,000, 50,000 so far turned up this year.

00:26:30.300 And, you know, they're being ferried in by the lifeguard people and they just rock up on the beach.

00:26:35.300 They're put in five-star hotels.

00:26:37.300 They're given money.

00:26:38.300 They're given mobile phones at the cost of around 8 million pounds a day.

00:26:45.300 It's just incredible amounts of money.

00:26:47.300 So the public are rightly annoyed at that.

00:26:50.300 They're also rightly annoyed at the amount of people coming through the front door through legal migration. 0.65

00:26:56.300 If you let a million people in, in a year, right, it's going to massively have an impact on everything within that nation.

00:27:06.300 Britain's tiny.

00:27:08.300 It's a tiny island.

00:27:10.300 And they've been doing this year after year after year.

00:27:13.300 So the public are angry.

00:27:15.300 They're rightly angry.

00:27:17.300 The problem I've got is that in the last six months, the tone of the media has kind of changed slightly.

00:27:30.300 And the tone of the government has changed slightly.

00:27:34.300 And I don't think it's because they recognize that maybe they should get on the side of the public.

00:27:41.300 I think what's happening is a promotion of and an allowance of people getting onto the street and protesting.

00:27:50.300 If that grows, one more major incident, I hope there never is, but there likely will be, that can spark big trouble.

00:28:06.300 I mean, huge trouble.

00:28:07.300 We had it last year.

00:28:09.300 And I think they want it even bigger.

00:28:12.300 That's my problem is I think they want it.

00:28:15.300 They want riots.

00:28:17.300 They want you burning down buildings.

00:28:20.300 There's been a chap called David Betts that's doing the rounds online.

00:28:24.300 He's a professor of civil war.

00:28:28.300 He used to advise the government about this.

00:28:31.300 And he's been going around for the last six months saying, Britain's going to have a civil war.

00:28:37.300 It's going to be along ethnic lines.

00:28:40.300 Why on earth this bloke's allowed to go around saying that?

00:28:44.300 And actually saying, you know, if this happens, and telling people, hit electricity stations outside cities.

00:28:53.300 If anybody else was talking like that, they would be arrested and imprisoned.

00:28:59.300 Yet this bloke is going around, he's doing podcast after podcast after podcast, dripping this into the national consciousness that there's a civil war coming.

00:29:12.300 And people are now talking about it everywhere.

00:29:15.300 It's going to turn into a civil war.

00:29:17.300 It's going to be an ethnic civil war.

00:29:20.300 And this is dangerous, right?

00:29:23.300 Because this is not coming from the bottom up.

00:29:25.300 This is coming from the top down.

00:29:29.300 Just my view of it is they know what they're doing.

00:29:33.300 They want this to kick off in order that they can crack down like we've never seen before, that they will put restrictions on.

00:29:42.300 And their argument will be, look, this is what happens when.

00:29:47.300 So it's going to be curfews.

00:29:49.300 It's going to be, you will not be allowed to protest.

00:29:52.300 These political ideologies are no longer allowed at all.

00:29:58.300 They'll use the online harms bill to police the Internet.

00:30:01.300 They'll use the anti-protest laws, which are going through, some have gone through and some are still going through, to just criminalize even talking about immigration or anything else that they do not want you to talk about.

00:30:17.300 And there's plenty we should be discussing, not just demographics, but they will use the same laws that they're bringing in to just absolutely crush.

00:30:27.300 And they will have the excuse if violence starts on the streets.

00:30:33.300 The annoying thing is that's how the British people are feeling, but they have no recourse apart from violence on the streets.

00:30:42.300 That's right.

00:30:43.300 So they're just stoking it, allowing it to build up.

00:30:48.300 And it's a dangerous situation over there.

00:30:50.300 It really is.

00:30:51.300 Yeah, I know.

00:30:52.300 It's interesting because obviously the anger is, as you said, not only justified, but it's a good initial step, right?

00:31:00.300 It's kind of a necessary step, I think, for many to see, just visually see these images of angry Britons out on the street protesting, standing in front of these migrant hotels that are just costing millions and millions and millions of pounds, just pouring it down a black hole. 0.99

00:31:16.300 And it's kind of like, well, what do you do?

00:31:19.300 And obviously what you're doing then is saying, well, take that, take the energy, take the anger, take the resentment and the other disgust that we feel about those who have done this to us and put it to use instead, right?

00:31:33.300 Kind of thing.

00:31:34.300 Yeah.

00:31:35.300 Some people, I think, just have to kind of go through that.

00:31:37.300 They have to do it.

00:31:38.300 It's a good initial step, but it's about what happens after or maybe prior to it actually, you know, completely getting out of hand or something like that.

00:31:46.300 I've got, I've got nothing against protest.

00:31:49.300 Yeah.

00:31:50.300 I think we need to, I think we, and it helps inform a wider, a wider audience of people of the things that are going on because it is reported on.

00:32:00.300 Even if it's done in a negative light, it does highlight the problems that we're facing.

00:32:06.300 But, and this has been shown thousands of times, it does very little to change the government's mind.

00:32:15.300 Anything you do.

00:32:16.300 Anything you do.

00:32:17.300 We've had over a million people march through the parliament square.

00:32:23.300 A million.

00:32:24.300 That made no difference to what they wanted to do.

00:32:26.300 They just go ahead and do it anyway.

00:32:28.300 It makes no difference, those protests.

00:32:31.300 And the little victories you get along the way, you're kind of allowed to have those, right?

00:32:36.300 Hoping that, you know, that'll placate them.

00:32:39.300 The recent one in Epping, so they closed down the migrant hotel.

00:32:43.300 The people in Epping are all great.

00:32:46.300 We won.

00:32:47.300 And the migrants there just moved to another town.

00:32:49.300 Or to two towns.

00:32:51.300 So the problem hasn't gone away.

00:32:53.300 They just shift it out to the sites.

00:32:55.300 Was this the, maybe this is Epping elsewhere as well, but I remember a while ago it was the Ballymena, Northern Irish town, right?

00:33:01.300 Yeah, that was, they handled it slightly different in Northern Ireland because it wasn't the government and the police that got rid of the people there.

00:33:10.300 They just went round and asked them to leave.

00:33:13.300 The people.

00:33:14.300 Which they did, basically, right?

00:33:16.300 I mean, so the media had said like, oh, these racist riots here, you know, kind of thing.

00:33:20.300 And I'm not sure how many they dealt with or whatever, but the Roma, the gypsies there, they basically concede like, okay, the quote unquote bad racist that they won were leaving town. 0.69

00:33:31.300 Of course, that means that they go somewhere else.

00:33:33.300 But I'm saying, from our point of view too, though, to push back against your idea a little bit there, it's like that, well, I guess that doesn't mean it's over, obviously.

00:33:41.300 Let's mention that, too.

00:33:42.300 They might have won a battle, but that doesn't mean the war is over.

00:33:44.300 What will the government do next?

00:33:46.300 Obviously, it's a continuing process.

00:33:48.300 But it's an important kind of moral victory to say that the community came together.

00:33:52.300 They're sick and fed up of this.

00:33:53.300 We don't want this anymore. 1.00

00:33:55.300 Obviously, these people have raped an underage girl. 1.00

00:33:57.300 Like, they're done. 1.00

00:33:58.300 Like, that's it.

00:33:59.300 And they don't care what they do at that point.

00:34:02.300 So there is a potentiality for it, at least initially, at least.

00:34:07.300 What do you think?

00:34:08.300 Exactly that.

00:34:10.300 Like I said right at the beginning there, the British public are absolutely right to be angry.

00:34:16.300 And they have no recourse apart from taking to the street.

00:34:20.300 They're at a point now where they know that they can't win anything through the ballot box.

00:34:25.300 It doesn't matter which party they vote for.

00:34:27.300 That's right.

00:34:28.300 They're going to get the same thing.

00:34:30.300 It's a very difficult situation for them because if they take to the streets and they protest, they're labelled as, and this is why these labels don't work anymore.

00:34:41.300 You've got normal families out in the streets saying, listen, we're worried about our kids.

00:34:46.300 There was a 14-year-old girl that was sexually assaulted.

00:34:49.300 Like, I've got a 14-year-old daughter and I don't want that to happen to her.

00:34:53.300 We're quite angry about this.

00:34:56.300 And they label them as far-right fascists, bigots, and what else.

00:35:01.300 And they're not.

00:35:02.300 They're normal, responsible people.

00:35:07.300 So these slurs don't work anymore, but they continue to use them.

00:35:14.300 They're losing that battle.

00:35:17.300 What Eric's done in America with Return to the Land, and along the same lines what we're doing with the Woodlander Initiative, has opened up an argument that says, okay, we've got a group of people here that are pretty sick with what's going on in modernity, in modern society.

00:35:39.300 And we don't really want to be a part of that.

00:35:42.300 And we're sick and tired of fighting through the ballot box or standing up in hotels, outside hotels and protesting.

00:35:50.300 So what we're going to do is we're going to build our own thing.

00:35:52.300 We'll stay within the law and we'll stay legal, but we're just going to build our own thing and concentrate on our culture and rebuild that, a more traditional way of life.

00:36:03.300 If they start to crack down on that, people are going to get angry because there's nothing wrong with that.

00:36:10.300 And it's hard for them to point fingers and say, you shouldn't be allowed to do that.

00:36:17.300 And I think they'll come unstuck.

00:36:19.300 Yeah, I think that's a necessary step.

00:36:23.300 It's more about revealing their hand, right?

00:36:25.300 Making what might have been doubtful or not as obvious initially, making it very, very obvious, blatantly obvious, right?

00:36:32.300 Because again, there's an advantage in that, numerical advantage.

00:36:35.300 The more normal British people that see stuff like that is going to be like, what the hell?

00:36:39.300 Those guys are obviously doing something right.

00:36:41.300 But it comes also in unison with a failing civilization, basically.

00:36:47.300 So again, you can argue this is by design, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:50.300 But regardless, what we're seeing is what we're seeing, right?

00:36:53.300 Mass surveillance, AI implementation, elite police units to monitor social media.

00:36:58.300 It's just back to every day.

00:37:00.300 There's just endless money being poured down to bring in these migrants and things like this. 0.56

00:37:04.300 It's failing.

00:37:06.300 And sure, maybe we don't want to, and this has been one of your argument points as well in many of the videos we have.

00:37:10.300 Like, we can't just sit and wait until it's so bad that then you decide to do something, right?

00:37:15.300 No.

00:37:16.300 It's about, you know, prepping ahead of connecting the dots, seeing where this is going.

00:37:21.300 And even if the outside world, in the way that they're shaping it, happened to be hugely successful and, you know, quote unquote, peaceful or economically, you know, great or whatever, which I don't think it's possible.

00:37:32.300 But even if it was, I kind of don't want to live in that world anyway.

00:37:36.300 We actually want to live with like-minded people that know what's going on, right?

00:37:40.300 Yeah.

00:37:41.300 I often get the finger of accusation, which is I'm kind of a Luddite and I hate technology, and I don't.

00:37:50.300 Sure, yeah.

00:37:51.300 But having said that, what we're trying to generate with our organization, as much as demographics is the key issue at the moment in this country, and we recognize that and we understand that, there's also many other issues.

00:38:12.300 There is the issue of that creeping technocracy, which they haven't been, you know, they haven't been shy about telling us what they want with a digital ID.

00:38:21.300 And we know that you have to have that to go online eventually.

00:38:25.300 And a digital currency that's coming.

00:38:28.300 Everyone's talking about it.

00:38:29.300 The governments are talking about it.

00:38:31.300 So we know these things are going to happen.

00:38:34.300 And we know that that's going to be highly restrictive.

00:38:39.300 So you're going to end up in a situation, if we do nothing, where your money, your access to really the marketplace, which is online.

00:38:52.300 Your money, your ability to communicate with people is controlled by the government.

00:38:59.300 And you will be surrounded by diversity if you like it or not.

00:39:05.300 Right, yeah.

00:39:06.300 And that's how you're going to live.

00:39:09.300 You'll be restricted on your travel.

00:39:11.300 In the UK, they're going to ban petrol and diesel cars 2030.

00:39:16.300 That date keeps cropping up quite often.

00:39:19.300 So 2030, you're not going to be able to buy a petrol or diesel car.

00:39:24.300 They will find a way to get the older ones off the road as well.

00:39:28.300 They're going to extend the MOT period, which is where they check the cars if they're safe, for two years, I believe, instead of every 12 months.

00:39:36.300 And then what they'll say is, no, that's failed and it can't go on the road.

00:39:40.300 So you'll have to have an electric vehicle.

00:39:42.300 Not everyone's going to be able to charge them.

00:39:44.300 They know this won't work.

00:39:46.300 They'll be priced out of the market.

00:39:47.300 So you're not going to be able to move around.

00:39:51.300 You will be highly surveilled online and offline.

00:39:57.300 You won't be able to move around as you want to.

00:40:00.300 Your money will be controlled.

00:40:04.300 Your access to everything will be controlled by your digital ID.

00:40:08.300 If you're quite happy to live like that, then just sit around and do nothing because that's coming.

00:40:16.300 But if you want another way to live, then you better start looking at organizations that are putting together something now because we're talking less than five years away.

00:40:26.300 Yeah.

00:40:27.300 That they want to implement this stuff.

00:40:29.300 Yeah.

00:40:30.300 Our hope is that we can get something going now.

00:40:33.300 So that in five years time, there is an alternative that we can say, look, no, we haven't got all that flashy internet access.

00:40:42.300 But you know what?

00:40:43.300 We can feed ourselves.

00:40:45.300 We can.

00:40:46.300 You know, we've got water, food, shelter, community.

00:40:52.300 We've got everything we need and we can do it ourselves.

00:40:56.300 Yeah.

00:40:57.300 Yeah.

00:40:58.300 And I'm not saying we won't have internet access and we won't be able to do that.

00:41:01.300 What I'm saying is we need to build that alternative.

00:41:05.300 And the truth is we can talk about it and we can paint pictures of it, but that doesn't convince people.

00:41:12.300 No. 0.81

00:41:13.300 But at the end of the day, what you've got to do, and Eric was dead right just to take the bull by the horns in America and actually have the balls to do it. 0.91

00:41:23.300 You've got to start.

00:41:24.300 You can't wait for everything to be right.

00:41:26.300 You start, you buy the land, you start to do what you said you're going to do, and then people can see it.

00:41:33.300 And then they can make up their own mind.

00:41:35.300 Absolutely.

00:41:36.300 And I think you've talked about this idea too, but obviously just the idea of also then engaging with the outside world.

00:41:42.300 Offer services, build businesses, engage in the economy outside, pull it into, you know, the community building efforts and expand more, build more.

00:41:52.300 I mean, there's countless examples now of other ethnic groups doing similar things.

00:41:57.300 I mean, in Texas, they have the Muslims doing it. 1.00

00:41:59.300 I mean, Muslims are doing it in the UK, right?

00:42:01.300 I'm not sure if there's a here is our land kind of thing outstate, but they can kind of skirt around the religious thing a little bit too, right?

00:42:09.300 Oh, it's just a religious community, you see.

00:42:11.300 And that might or might not give you different legal leeway as well.

00:42:15.300 I'm not even sure in the UK if that's something that would be possible.

00:42:19.300 There's a lot of intentional communities worldwide, not just in this country or in America.

00:42:23.300 Yeah.

00:42:24.300 There's a lot of them.

00:42:25.300 Most of them are based on religion, but not all.

00:42:31.300 Some fly under the radar.

00:42:33.300 Some are quite public.

00:42:35.300 So intentional communities of people coming together are fine.

00:42:39.300 The rules in the UK are majorly strict on absolutely everything.

00:42:45.300 So we do have a fine line to walk, but they can't argue about what we want to do.

00:42:51.300 And as long as they agree that we do have freedom of association, we haven't really got an issue.

00:42:57.300 We do have to be careful with phraseology and the way we print stuff because the laws are so strict over here.

00:43:07.300 But we haven't broken any laws.

00:43:09.300 What we're doing is right.

00:43:12.300 And I honestly believe.

00:43:14.300 I had a long, long chat with one of our members last night.

00:43:18.300 We spoke for about four hours.

00:43:20.300 And we touched on demographics, but most of the conversation was about how does this go long time into the future?

00:43:29.300 Exactly.

00:43:30.300 What are we looking to do?

00:43:32.300 And I think what we're looking to do is retain our culture.

00:43:36.300 And more than that, I think we have to rebuild our culture because there's so many people out there that they don't know what that culture is.

00:43:47.300 It's being stripped away and replaced with something that I don't like to see.

00:43:53.300 It's changing.

00:43:55.300 And what we need to do is get back to our traditional European culture. 0.93

00:44:00.300 Yes.

00:44:01.300 And that can only be done in real life when we come together.

00:44:08.300 And you speak about businesses.

00:44:10.300 Well, that's actually the second part of the Woodlander initiative is to encourage self-employment for all of our members,

00:44:20.300 alongside their job if they've got one, starting businesses at things they're good at,

00:44:25.300 and that we can help them, not just with skills.

00:44:28.300 When you've got 1,000, and let's say in a year or two, 2,000, 3,000 members,

00:44:33.300 you will have business experts in there.

00:44:35.300 You will have experts in every field, and we've already got that at the moment,

00:44:39.300 who can help people put their businesses together at no charge because we're just helping each other.

00:44:46.300 And we can, if they need tools and machinery, and they can't afford all of it,

00:44:52.300 we can actually offer grants or interest-free loans, which banks don't want to get involved in.

00:45:01.300 And if they do get involved, you end up paying usury through the fiat banking system.

00:45:09.300 And we want to get away from that, and we want to start building our own businesses, okay,

00:45:14.300 where our people can pool their money, pool their resources.

00:45:18.300 And then we can offer all of these services out to the wider public and bring the money back into the group.

00:45:25.300 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's it.

00:45:28.300 You've got to engage with it at the same time.

00:45:32.300 And that's just the period we're in right now, right?

00:45:34.300 You can kind of walk a fine line, and no one can exactly know when the cutoff point is,

00:45:39.300 or maybe that will be different for different people.

00:45:41.300 But as you said, I mean, I just see it as a digital prison system, essentially,

00:45:46.300 that they're building, that they're constructing.

00:45:49.300 And you have so many different aspects to it,

00:45:53.300 but the point is we're being kind of like painted into a corner, right?

00:45:56.300 You can't have this or that if you don't, you know, admit to this or whatever.

00:46:01.300 And eventually you'll reach a point where you might not even be able to get out of it at that point,

00:46:06.300 essentially, right?

00:46:08.300 Exactly, which is why I've said we need to just start.

00:46:12.300 And people are like, well, you know, wouldn't it be better if we expand all of our efforts

00:46:16.300 into protesting about these, you know, small boats?

00:46:19.300 If we don't start building the alternative that we're going to need,

00:46:24.300 if we don't start now, we'll be too late.

00:46:27.300 Because we cannot wait until they've locked and blocked every single exit,

00:46:34.300 which is what they're planning on doing.

00:46:36.300 They're bringing in legislation, they're bringing in laws

00:46:40.300 that will stop you saying anything or doing anything that they don't want you to do.

00:46:46.300 At the moment, we're still in with a chance.

00:46:49.300 Yeah, that's true.

00:46:50.300 You know, and I see it going two ways.

00:46:53.300 And I'm sure that the lads in America, and it's not just America,

00:46:56.300 there's other places doing exactly the same as what we are as well.

00:47:00.300 People looking for a way out of the society and the way the modernity is going.

00:47:07.300 There's people looking for a way out of that and to build something better.

00:47:11.300 They will either allow this to run, knowing that it's easier to get these people over there

00:47:20.300 and just let them do their own thing.

00:47:22.300 It's easier than rounding up 50,000 people and trying to imprison them 1.00

00:47:28.300 on stupid made-up rubbish. 1.00

00:47:31.300 Just leave them alone over there, which is what I think will happen. 1.00

00:47:36.300 Or it gets nasty, doesn't it?

00:47:41.300 You end up with a state trying to crush the people.

00:47:47.300 I don't think they want to be put in that position anymore.

00:47:51.300 Times have changed.

00:47:53.300 They can't do this without it being filmed, without it being live streamed.

00:47:58.300 I just don't think they want that.

00:48:01.300 I think at the end of the day they will fight us with lawfare if they can.

00:48:07.300 And if we box smart and we're legal above board and show that what we're doing

00:48:14.300 is absolutely of no harm to anyone.

00:48:20.300 In fact, it just helps us.

00:48:23.300 They have no elect to stand on.

00:48:26.300 Yeah, the more organized and well-built something would be by the time they might...

00:48:33.300 I mean, I'm sure they're already looking and paying attention,

00:48:36.300 but they also have a lot of other problems to deal with, obviously, right?

00:48:39.300 They're very strained, both in terms of police, the legal system, financially.

00:48:44.300 Everything is strained everywhere.

00:48:48.300 Most people are struggling in some way or another to keep all this patched up, essentially, right?

00:48:54.300 And that could pop at any point, or it might not.

00:48:57.300 It might be the accelerationists, as we call them, might not turn out to be true, right?

00:49:03.300 People even point to COVID, right?

00:49:04.300 Some people actually even say, no, the reason why it didn't work is because they didn't go far enough.

00:49:08.300 It was when they said...

00:49:09.300 It's the same thing there, right?

00:49:10.300 You had a protest movement building, a lot of people out on the street.

00:49:14.300 And at some point, I think they also realized, like, ooh, what do we have on our hands here?

00:49:17.300 Let's kind of back off a little bit, potentially.

00:49:19.300 I'm not sure.

00:49:20.300 But the point is, you could have versions of that, as you said, in the future, right?

00:49:23.300 You can have a...

00:49:24.300 People were kind of talking about climate lockdowns, right?

00:49:27.300 Well, you see...

00:49:29.300 And they did that in Canada recently, too, essentially.

00:49:32.300 Essentially what it is.

00:49:33.300 They said, well, it's because of wildfires.

00:49:35.300 And if you make the, you know, if you draw the dots, you basically say, well, they say the wildfires...

00:49:40.300 Well, yeah, exactly.

00:49:42.300 They say wildfires are up because of climate change, right?

00:49:46.300 And so we have to, you know, so if that's the fundamental reason and we don't want wildfires,

00:49:51.300 we've got to keep you out of the woods, you know, kind of thing.

00:49:54.300 And it's going to extend for two months, I think, in Nova Scotia.

00:49:57.300 But you could very well see things like that in the future as well, where basically part of the woods,

00:50:02.300 even though it's like, you know, national or public or, you know, for everyone or whatever,

00:50:06.300 they basically just close it off or you are not allowed to go in there.

00:50:10.300 Well, they've just done that in Canada.

00:50:12.300 Yeah.

00:50:13.300 I mean, some chap, I just saw a video clip of it the other day, and I was like, wow, I can't believe it.

00:50:20.300 He was fined something like $6,000 for taking one step into a woodland, which is public on public land.

00:50:30.300 But they said, you can't go in there, you know.

00:50:33.300 So he went in there anyway and got fined and he was like, oh, I'm not going to pay it.

00:50:37.300 But in the UK, they're very clever.

00:50:43.300 They just do it little bit by little bit.

00:50:46.300 At the moment, they're hell bent on destroying the farming industry in the UK.

00:50:51.300 I think what they want is for us to import all of our food.

00:50:54.300 They want the whole farming industry gone and they want to control the food supply.

00:50:58.300 And we've seen this game played throughout history.

00:51:01.300 Yeah.

00:51:02.300 And they do it by saying, okay, so the Welsh farmers, you've got to give over 20% of your 0.87

00:51:10.300 land to rewilding.

00:51:12.300 And you've got to do that to help the environment.

00:51:15.300 And they just make that a lot.

00:51:16.300 And the Welsh farmers are like, well, hang on a minute. 0.98

00:51:18.300 Yeah.

00:51:19.300 If I give them 20% of my land, I'd lose 20% of my income.

00:51:23.300 And they're like, yeah, tough.

00:51:26.300 Yeah.

00:51:27.300 I know.

00:51:28.300 That's just it.

00:51:29.300 That's what I live on.

00:51:32.300 That's what I live on.

00:51:33.300 And they're like, well, you know, don't live then.

00:51:35.300 And then they hit them with a tax.

00:51:38.300 The inheritance tax just says that, okay, if you pass your farm down to your kids, which

00:51:44.300 is what happens with farms.

00:51:45.300 Someone's been in the same family for hundreds of years.

00:51:50.300 We're now going to tax you on it.

00:51:53.300 And they're like, well, we haven't got any money.

00:51:55.300 What we've got is a lot of land that we farm to produce food.

00:51:59.300 But if you're going to hit us with a 10, 15, 20% tax when we pass that down to our kids,

00:52:04.300 they're going to have to sell the farm because they haven't got the money.

00:52:07.300 And they're like, great.

00:52:08.300 Yeah.

00:52:09.300 We've got this company called Blackrock who will buy it off of you.

00:52:15.300 It's absolutely insane.

00:52:18.300 It's like the modern version, Woodlander, of like the enclosure movement.

00:52:22.300 But it comes through all these different other methods, right?

00:52:25.300 Am I right?

00:52:26.300 Yes.

00:52:27.300 Yes.

00:52:28.300 What they're doing is that it's not just here.

00:52:32.300 They're doing this everywhere, right?

00:52:33.300 They're grabbing the actual resources.

00:52:37.300 They're finished with this financial system.

00:52:40.300 Another one will come in, a digital one.

00:52:42.300 How the hell that will look or work?

00:52:44.300 You know, I'm not an economist.

00:52:46.300 I don't know.

00:52:47.300 I do know it'll be bad.

00:52:49.300 But what they're doing now is they're grabbing the reality of this planet.

00:52:54.300 So they're grabbing the land. 0.64

00:52:56.300 They're grabbing the water supplies.

00:52:58.300 They're just, they want everything.

00:53:01.300 They want it categorized, you know, on their ledger sheet,

00:53:05.300 and they want ownership of it and control of it. 0.99

00:53:08.300 They don't want the man in the street or the man on the farm to own a goddamn thing. 0.99

00:53:14.300 Yes. 0.99

00:53:15.300 Exactly.

00:53:16.300 And they're taking it all.

00:53:17.300 Yep.

00:53:18.300 We're going to take a break in a little bit and we'll talk more about that.

00:53:21.300 How might that play out and the reasons why they might use that.

00:53:25.300 They have these, there's proposals to make essentially nature tradable asset classes.

00:53:31.300 You might even see where they basically just say, well, we're going to have to build an AI data center here.

00:53:37.300 And so, you know, you're out.

00:53:39.300 There's all kinds of things that actually could happen.

00:53:41.300 So we'll talk more about that.

00:53:43.300 I do want you to plug some of your stuff here, obviously, before we take a little break here in the first segment.

00:53:48.300 So it's woodlanderinitiative.co.uk.

00:53:52.300 That's right.

00:53:53.300 That's your website.

00:53:54.300 That's where people can find out more.

00:53:55.300 That's the website.

00:53:56.300 I've got a YouTube channel.

00:53:58.300 Yes.

00:53:59.300 You can, if you just search for the woodlander, you'll find it. 0.96

00:54:02.300 It's just my ugly face.

00:54:03.300 I never do thumbnails. 0.92

00:54:04.300 It's just a clip of me talking.

00:54:06.300 It's huge.

00:54:07.300 You got to do some of those soy face thumbnails, you know?

00:54:10.300 Yeah.

00:54:11.300 No, I just, do you know what?

00:54:12.300 It's, it's all low tech.

00:54:14.300 Um, as much as I understand the smartphone, it can work against us.

00:54:19.300 Right.

00:54:20.300 For me, it's the, um, this has been done on a smartphone.

00:54:23.300 I can shoot a video.

00:54:24.300 I can just upload it.

00:54:25.300 And that's all I do.

00:54:26.300 It's me sat on a tree stump in the middle of the woods talking about, man, what's going

00:54:33.300 on, what really is going on and what we can do.

00:54:38.300 I'm not saying I'm right.

00:54:39.300 What I'm saying is, look, this is what I think.

00:54:42.300 And you know what we've put together.

00:54:45.300 And if, if you want to get involved, it'd be great.

00:54:48.300 You know, it's, it's cool.

00:54:50.300 Uh, the channel obviously is on YouTube.

00:54:52.300 So it's like, I, I lose probably more subscribers every week slightly than I gain, uh, which is

00:55:00.300 part of the course.

00:55:01.300 Um, what, what else is going on?

00:55:06.300 Do you have an, do you have an X or Twitter?

00:55:08.300 Have you thought about boosting out some of the vids there?

00:55:10.300 Look, I I'm, I'm, I'm too long in the tooth.

00:55:14.300 I'm just putting, I'm just putting together a media team.

00:55:19.300 Um, we have got a X account.

00:55:22.300 We have got an Instagram account.

00:55:25.300 Um, we have got like even down to Facebook.

00:55:28.300 Um, but it's now just bringing all of those things together.

00:55:31.300 Uh, and actually getting the information put out on a regular basis, the information that

00:55:36.300 looks good.

00:55:37.300 Um, so we're just at that stage now.

00:55:39.300 Um, but it's not something I could do.

00:55:41.300 Uh, do you know what I mean?

00:55:42.300 I could paint you a nice picture.

00:55:43.300 I'm an artist, but I don't really understand the ins and outs of, you know, what, what looks

00:55:49.300 good on Tik Tok.

00:55:50.300 I have no idea because I don't use it.

00:55:53.300 Um, no, but that's good.

00:55:55.300 That's what you need other people for that have that skill, right?

00:55:58.300 Yeah.

00:55:59.300 Yeah.

00:56:00.300 People are interested in that and they can make it.

00:56:01.300 I love the videos.

00:56:02.300 They're, they're, they're great.

00:56:03.300 A lot of wisdom, a lot of good takes on those.

00:56:06.300 So, uh, people should definitely follow and check out your, uh, your, uh, YouTube for

00:56:09.300 sure.

00:56:10.300 Uh, really good stuff.

00:56:11.300 The Woodlander. 0.97

00:56:12.300 Uh, you can find it at the Woodlander 9868.

00:56:15.300 Uh, if you want to go directly to it on, uh, on YouTube, obviously.

00:56:18.300 Uh, but yeah, check out the website guys, cause they're doing great work.

00:56:21.300 They're laying in some of those foundational bricks right now that we're going to need.

00:56:26.300 And again, the worst things get or whatever changes in the dynamics within mainstream society.

00:56:32.300 I think, I still think we're going to reach a point where get ready for more and more and

00:56:38.300 more people.

00:56:39.300 Right.

00:56:40.300 I don't want this to be at a point where we're like, you know, we lack the info.

00:56:46.300 I don't mean the physical infrastructure, but even like the administrative, administrative or

00:56:50.300 organizational capacity to handle the potential of the people that might be coming to something

00:56:55.300 like this in the future.

00:56:56.300 Right.

00:56:57.300 So just to touch on that, I've spent the last 12 months now.

00:57:03.300 I haven't promoted this at all.

00:57:05.300 I've mentioned it a couple of times in videos, but I haven't really done any promotion.

00:57:10.300 I've spent the last 12 months working with a really good team of solicitors and an accountant.

00:57:17.300 How many meetings I've had with this?

00:57:20.300 Well, I have no idea.

00:57:21.300 Right.

00:57:22.300 And it's not really my forte to sit in a room with four different solicitors.

00:57:26.300 One is a business solicitor, one's a land solicitor, one's, you know, and all different

00:57:31.300 teams working together to make sure that everything is.

00:57:35.300 You talked about the government taking land.

00:57:37.300 Okay.

00:57:38.300 How can we do that?

00:57:39.300 How can we minimize that?

00:57:40.300 Can we put it in a trust?

00:57:41.300 How would that work?

00:57:42.300 They're on site, a good legal team.

00:57:46.300 How do we handle a massive influx of members?

00:57:51.300 So we're still working on the website.

00:57:54.300 The legal side of everything is going on behind the scenes, should be nailed down.

00:58:01.300 A slight restructuring by this week.

00:58:04.300 But a good team of people working on it.

00:58:07.300 We know this is going to be absolutely huge in two or three years.

00:58:13.300 Yeah.

00:58:14.300 It will be massive.

00:58:15.300 And people say, well, you know, you can't do much with like 160,000 or 200,000 pounds.

00:58:21.300 You can't, but this is how quick it grows.

00:58:23.300 You get 1,000 people, right?

00:58:25.300 With a relatively small investment of 1,000 pounds, you've got a million pounds.

00:58:30.300 Yeah.

00:58:31.300 And that's nothing to be sniffed at.

00:58:33.300 That's just with 1,000 people.

00:58:35.300 With that million pounds, you can do serious work.

00:58:38.300 You can start buying properties.

00:58:40.300 You can start buying larger pieces of land.

00:58:42.300 You can start getting infrastructure done.

00:58:44.300 You can start doing proper advertising.

00:58:46.300 That brings in two or 3,000 people.

00:58:48.300 You've now got 3 million pounds.

00:58:50.300 Yeah.

00:58:51.300 All of a sudden, you're a power.

00:58:54.300 You're an organization that can do stuff.

00:58:58.300 And also, when you do it for very different reasons, right?

00:59:01.300 That we know that there's a fundamental error in something.

00:59:04.300 Now, all of a sudden, you can unlock people's ability to want to help out.

00:59:07.300 The social capital that exists within these groups.

00:59:10.300 Corporations, it's always money first and paying salaries and, you know, the bottom line in that regard, right?

00:59:16.300 But like, think about how many men can get together and help up fix a house, a new property you bought.

00:59:21.300 We've already done that.

00:59:22.300 Yeah.

00:59:23.300 The first get together we had on our land, briefly, because I know you want a break.

00:59:27.300 Oh, sure.

00:59:28.300 Yeah.

00:59:29.300 So I just organized this and it was a really low key thing.

00:59:31.300 I said, look, we're going to go down.

00:59:33.300 I thought probably 10 or 20 blokes would turn up.

00:59:37.300 We had nearly 80 people turn up.

00:59:40.300 And I was like, wow.

00:59:41.300 As I drove up, there was a group of young men with wheelbarrows filling in a one mile long farm track with gravel and filling in the pot.

00:59:54.300 No one asked them to do it.

00:59:57.300 No one said that needs to be done.

00:59:59.300 They just got on and did it.

01:00:01.300 There was people cutting hedges back.

01:00:03.300 There was people.

01:00:04.300 This is before I even turned up.

01:00:06.300 And I was like, ma'am, what happened?

01:00:09.300 Did someone tell you?

01:00:10.300 And they said, no.

01:00:11.300 When we drove down first thing this morning, we got in early.

01:00:13.300 We noticed that there was a few potholes.

01:00:15.300 So we thought we'd get together and fix it.

01:00:17.300 This is what happens when you get good quality people together.

01:00:23.300 They have their own initiative.

01:00:25.300 They get on.

01:00:26.300 They get the job done and they create and they make things better.

01:00:31.300 That's what we do.

01:00:33.300 That's right.

01:00:34.300 And for that whole weekend, everyone just wanted to get the job done.

01:00:39.300 Let's make this place beautiful.

01:00:41.300 Let's start taking out the rubbish and making this a good place.

01:00:46.300 They worked all weekend.

01:00:48.300 Not one person asked for any financial remuneration.

01:00:54.300 They did it because the job needed to be done and we're doing it for ourselves.

01:00:59.300 That was a really good thing.

01:01:02.300 Oh, it's wonderful.

01:01:03.300 That builds trust.

01:01:04.300 You get to know people better.

01:01:05.300 You do things together.

01:01:06.300 There's so many plus.

01:01:07.300 All of those things that we've largely have lost essentially with modernity.

01:01:12.300 Yeah, that's great.

01:01:13.300 All right.

01:01:14.300 We're going to take a couple of these super chats here and then we're going to take a short break.

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01:01:21.300 I also enjoyed the Russian mystic from a while back.

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Red Ice TV - August 13, 2025

Taking Back Our Land - Woodlander

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