In this episode, we re-unite with Sasha Roald Molsmann to talk about his new book "Culture Aesthetic, Identitatie und Blossom of the oxidants: The Blossoms of the Obscident" and how he plans to get it on the market.
00:05:51.300we're able to do not only to stop the bleeding but actually reverse and start healing as well
00:05:56.140so with us to do that we have the bavarian barbarian sasha ross muller is back on the show
00:06:02.280today to talk about his latest book how are you sasha good to see you again thank you for the
00:06:09.020invitation uh nice being here uh to be honest a a little bit catched a flu the last days but the
00:06:15.380second i started being on air with red ice i start feeling better see that's how it works come on
00:06:20.880here we're all good to go right that's how it works awesome uh so yeah we got an update how have you
00:06:25.680been since we last spoke by the way i forget what it is a couple of years ago maybe a little bit more
00:06:30.080even i think no no i think it was a couple of years i was with lana but i think it's pretty pretty
00:06:36.480precisely around about a year the last time oh there you go okay so not that yes i think it was
00:06:41.140also in in december a lot of things have happened maybe that's why it feels like it's just it's just
00:06:46.400coming in thick and fast all the all the changes and the updates as it were uh obviously you have
00:06:50.960a new book yeah go ahead sasha development we faced uh in former days in in in a decade now we face
00:06:57.600within six months sometimes well exactly just speeding up compression of the the time as i say
00:07:02.320right so uh you have a new book out as well culture aesthetics identity and blossom of the
00:07:07.840oxidant or blossoms of the uh oxidants as well i want to talk about uh that a little bit too um so
00:07:14.640actually maybe we should begin on that to be honest um is the english version out yet i know
00:07:19.760you were uh looking at publishers and getting it out distributed to the english speaking world because
00:07:24.480yes the uh the english version is is not yet out uh but i i have received the uh the draft of that
00:07:35.680from the graphic designer uh the designer the draft of the english version it's so uh that means that
00:07:41.920it's already uh translated the graphic uh design is already made and uh i'm doing the final uh checks
00:07:49.280and if then the uh the last few final corrections are made uh nothing would be potentially in the way
00:07:56.880uh to give the the printing order but you're right i'm also uh looking to get in in touch with
00:08:05.200potentially interested uh companies publishers uh who would uh be interested uh to take it in their
00:08:12.640in their assortment and and and sell it in the the english-speaking area or or outside of uh germany
00:08:19.280i don't know if if if it's can we see it yeah hold it back hold it back a little bit kind of cover
00:08:23.760your face i guess with the book there you go culture aesthetics and uh the occident or identity actually
00:08:31.840the blossoming yeah that's that's the the the the the german the german version of the book and it's
00:08:37.120already uh uh on on the market uh here in germany and it's a yeah it's a kind of an of an uh
00:08:47.040of an over overview uh of the occidental uh culture it's about uh i i touched the topics uh from
00:08:59.600early ancient times uh to uh during uh romanesque uh gothic baroque renaissance to modern modern times
00:09:08.000in architecture painting paintings music and uh and literature literature and and uh
00:09:16.560in an european perspective uh not at all only uh regarding uh germany and then germany's history but
00:09:24.080regarding uh the whole the whole occident because it i i by purpose i i wanted to show that uh the
00:09:34.000commonalities and uh the the common route uh we we had and and as in in between as a of of uh different
00:09:43.280ages and and different countries of the occident uh that uh how the the development of our culture is uh is
00:09:52.000is always interwoven uh and it's an an generation spanning uh communication we can have here with
00:10:00.400culture and by the way i think uh we treated our history uh uh by uh encyclopedical volumes uh regarding
00:10:10.880our wars and and when we cut our throats uh mutually i think it's uh it's um much uh more fruitful if we uh
00:10:21.200go through our history on aesthetics and uh i i did it or i tried to do that in uh in from the
00:10:30.400from the perspective of a uh of of uh in particular from the perspective of identity how that development
00:10:39.280was on the one hand a uh identity forming and on the other hand also in its development uh identity uh
00:10:49.040inducing and uh if if someone who knows maybe this uh famous educational novel from johann wolfgram from
00:10:58.720goethe it's called wilhelm meister he one of his figures uh he let's say uh every day one should
00:11:06.640hear at least one little song read a good poem see an excellent painting and if possible say a few
00:11:13.600sensible words and if this book provides inspiration for doing that it will have already fulfilled much
00:11:21.280of its purpose and maybe interesting for especially uh historically interested people or ethno-nationalists
00:11:28.800uh that i uh i also uh had a chapter uh art and cult art in the third reich and the chapter art uh under
00:11:39.040fascism uh i didn't spare that out because uh this part of history normally uh is is uh excluded not
00:11:48.560allowed exactly possibly to get historized but but those uh those uh highlights or those blossoms and there
00:11:56.880have been a lot of uh amazing uh cultural or artistic uh activities and and i also i also touched that
00:12:05.520and and wrote a little bit what uh from some of those artists uh they how they have been treated after
00:12:12.8801945 then so i i think it's uh it will be interesting i i sent a a german uh length the german language
00:12:20.800copy to you know him for sure to dr tom sunich because he fluent me and nearly perfectly understands
00:12:27.440and speaks german and uh i got a good a very good feedback from him yesterday and he uh offered to uh to
00:12:35.520make as soon as my english version will be out he will uh make some uh reviews uh about it nice yeah i get
00:12:42.640i want to speak with tom again too by the way you gotta help me get him get me back in contact with
00:12:46.400tom great uh great guy love uh love what tom is doing um so yeah this i mean this is an interesting
00:12:52.480point right because it's always we and we bring that up as regularly as we can i think in terms of like
00:12:58.240yes we're in a struggle an existential struggle for our people for our folk for our race and weaved
00:13:04.240into that it's not only obviously being on the defensive and you know even offensive of sorts in
00:13:09.760terms of defending ourselves and our very existence but also what what are we defending what are we
00:13:16.560right with that you comes our culture what has come out of us our um folk soul if you will the the
00:13:23.360music that comes from us the uh the paintings the architecture all these things and sometimes we kind of
00:13:28.880we forget that and maybe that's a very i think that's always an important thing to weave into discussions
00:13:34.160and have in mind of like how not not maybe that we have to revive it but we have to remember it
00:13:39.680more you see what i'm saying it is a lot of meme culture it's a lot of fun things and certainly from
00:13:44.080that point there's people that pull that out they use some of that aesthetics they use some of that
00:13:48.240kind of imagery and things like that too but in terms of formulating a wider kind of european identity
00:13:54.080which i think is needed at this point well um maybe you can just talk about that a little bit how you see
00:13:59.360art and architecture music poetry all these things that comes from us as an important i guess binding
00:14:05.920agent if that's the right word say the social glue right or something that uh joins our identity
00:14:12.080because i think we're in desperate need as you said to actually have a kind of a pan european
00:14:16.880consciousness not i'm not talking about the eu obviously for those who aren't wondering what i'm
00:14:20.240talking about here i'm talking about an actual european or if you will then white identity what what's the
00:14:25.760role of of art in that it's a competition of aesthetics and i think uh maybe there will be
00:14:35.520thousands of definitions what culture is but uh to to put it short for me it's the the visible expression
00:14:44.880of the feeling that there is a connection between beauty and meaning and uh the point you touched uh of
00:14:54.080this commonalities for example if we go uh if we go far far back made uh for example to this uh to the
00:15:03.600poet sapo and uh from a mutilini from lesbian that uh uh female poets uh from the uh ancient ancient greek
00:15:12.960there despite there are only seven percent of their poems uh known today nevertheless she
00:15:23.760the so-called 10th muse has been taken up as a motive in countless works of arts whether in
00:15:30.560literature music sculpture or a painting up to the to the modern time which uh that example i think
00:15:38.800fits because it shows how artistic creation can grow in an uh inspiring and creative
00:15:46.880connection across generations and uh not least through the recurring use of certain subjects
00:15:55.280it can have that uh identity identity forming uh effect or if you go to music uh take the the
00:16:06.480norwegian composer edward greek who a a very important person for a norwegian romanticism and why is he
00:16:13.520important he's important in shaping identity because his his compositions were significantly influenced by
00:16:22.560folk music of this homeland or for example take sibelius from finland uh the finnish national
00:16:29.200romanticism uh he has his identity forming significance which is at this person uh self-explanatory
00:16:37.360if only because of his uh collavo uh symphonies based on the finnish national epic of uh of the kalevala
00:16:45.360and uh in in in early 1930s sibelius uh sympathized with a fascist popular movement in uh in in finland for
00:16:56.400example and he was uh in 1935 he was honored with the goethe medal of the german reich so you you have
00:17:05.120uh in connection with with patriotism but cross border not no border cross border also back in that times
00:17:14.560between nationalists you have uh the the the honoring of of that achievements from our uh from our ancestors
00:17:23.920and i thought it uh was um it was important uh to uh to deal with the topic because
00:17:31.440i personally felt that in our uh patriotic uh canon of literature i missed that i really missed that as i
00:17:40.000told you have uh you have thousands of books about uh nearly uh every single uh fight in in in the trench of
00:17:49.520every war uh or you you have uh all all our uh kings and and and and and uh princesses everything you have uh
00:17:59.360right full libraries written about it but uh to touch that uh that uh artistic that cultural uh
00:18:08.800topic from uh especially from that uh from that perspective of identity uh i i was missing i was missing that a little bit and then i think it is
00:18:19.360it is uh it's uh it's uh mostly uh literature about this is not in this manageable volume in
00:18:30.000times where unfortunately uh people less and less are reading and mostly those uh literature is very uh of
00:18:40.160written for pundits very specific which only people who already have a uh
00:18:47.280very uh highbrow special knowledge about this uh delve even deeper into that but we need uh if if we want
00:18:56.000to have that a generation spanning uh generation spanning communication with the uh witnesses of our cultural
00:19:05.200achievements in the different forkish dialects we don't have to grasp it only in the intellectual
00:19:11.680rational way we have to grasp it uh in the sensual way we have to grasp it by its uh aesthetics and uh
00:19:19.760even the more in our age of of netflix of the iconoclasm of the uh self-contempt of our of in the net and
00:19:31.920netflix era and uh in times where in schools you're uh that knowledge is not transported because they
00:19:39.920focus more on political uh correctness and as in in the overall in the general uh tv programs it's uh not
00:19:47.760delivered anymore uh in educational uh serious or anything because it's only focused on uh consumerist
00:19:54.400materialist material daily materialist a tititainment so to say yeah was it uh speaking of that netflix
00:20:02.000they just did a race swap and was emotes or i mean they do this all the time it's like a continuous flow
00:20:07.120of this taking you know vital european um you know important historical you know persons and characters
00:20:14.480and they just swap them out and it's this continuous flow of a kind of updating or kind of
00:20:19.600confusing i guess specifically young people and and kids about what it means to be european or who
00:20:26.640these people were right so it's this constant battle on the cultural front as well where they
00:20:31.920continuously try to erase our identity and say well this is always how it's been and it was always just
00:20:37.920asians here and blacks here and you know and every country is going through this uh it's the same
00:20:44.080methodology i guess in in every single western country essentially so that's why it's important to push
00:20:48.800back on that revive these things bring them out and and participate in the in the cultural battle
00:20:55.040as much as the existential one right yeah yeah and moreover that book can also read as a kind of a travel
00:21:02.720guide because i always uh tried to uh to inform where you can uh find such things for example in uh regarding
00:21:12.560regarding uh paintings i i i tried uh to give the information in in which country in which
00:21:18.400gallery you can admire uh such art works so uh it's also uh to read as a kind of a of a travel guide
00:21:27.680uh to become acquainted uh with our continent and uh with our with our uh occidental heritage
00:21:35.840yes uh definitely so what else would you want to say in terms of the inclusion of art or the focus on
00:21:42.000that and the importance of that in terms of uh reviving our our european spirit because it's in
00:21:48.960as we know obviously it's been in in decline our civilization is in free fall it's like we've we've uh
00:21:55.520we've hit the iceberg the the the titanic is is taking in water and there's still of course a large
00:22:01.520segment of our of our people that are they think they're just keeping playing the piano playing the
00:22:06.560orchestra and ignoring it somehow this is going to go away but it's as we know it's not and i think
00:22:11.920most people are slowly but surely kind of waking up to the fact that we have to do something about
00:22:17.280this if we if we are to uh if we are to survive and if and if we don't sasha i mean it's i'm not
00:22:22.480sure where we stand at that point but i i still as i said in the kind of introduction here i think
00:22:27.040we got about 10 years i mean no one can say for exactly of course it could be 15 might be 20 might be
00:22:31.600seven i i don't know but it feels like it's the window is closing but what encourages me is to see
00:22:38.080the level of activism among our people now the willingness to not just complain and whine but
00:22:43.920actually start doing something about it uh that's right to connect this uh both few points and then
00:22:54.080and leading over to the more political uh issues um i think in particular for us activists it is
00:23:02.640important uh to engage in in that culture because i mean uh from my personal experience i'm now a
00:23:10.480political activist since uh yeah more than 35 around about 35 years or a little bit more than uh 35 years
00:23:21.120i i i a few years ago and and i i found a one of my first letters i had written to a political to a
00:23:28.640right-wing political party that was uh in the year and end of the year 1988 when i was 15 years young
00:23:36.720so and uh from this experience uh i learned that if you wanna act on the always on the front and if you
00:23:46.000always if you if you if if you are in a position where it's required uh often to take risks to sacrifice
00:23:55.040a lot and uh maybe be challenged to go on some occasions go all in so to say you can't you can't
00:24:04.320stand this for several decays decades only based on duty and on always having a it's my duty it's my
00:24:15.200duty uh your batteries uh will be empty you need something to charge this and you need something
00:24:23.040if you're always fighting and you're always off in a war of a mental attrition you you need something
00:24:29.520to recharge your batteries yeah like what are what are we fighting for right you're gonna remind
00:24:35.520yourself of that yes what what are we fighting for and that is the culture and uh it was also uh
00:24:41.440friedrich nietzsche who said who has a uh what for uh then it doesn't matter the how right uh and and
00:24:52.080and that's very uh that's very important and so i think i i recommend in particular to our comrades
00:24:59.520and to our activists and especially to the younger ones who have a long road before them because we both
00:25:05.120knew uh it's not the sprint it's the marathon uh our political work and and uh they need uh they need
00:25:12.400this uh source of uh of of beauty this source of sensuality the source it's a kind culture or even
00:25:23.840it's a special affair we germans have with the era of the romanticism uh it's a kind of our artificial
00:25:30.880uh religion because uh if you my favorite era is is the one to which according to a german uh
00:25:39.600philosopher germans generally have a special affair it's romanticism because it's enchanting corrective
00:25:46.400to the tendency to absolutize soulless rationality without however throwing the achievements of the
00:25:54.320enlightenment fully overboard and it's sensual mysticism of nature that triggers in me that
00:26:01.280pleasant feeling that arises when one starts to admire and that's recharging the batteries
00:26:08.640and uh before coming to the political issues uh a classical philologist and philosopher from germany
00:26:16.560friedrich schleiermacher wrote once an essay in the 19th century on religion and uh in in connection
00:26:24.640with art and uh culture is for me a secularized religion and uh schleiermacher wrote it is not he
00:26:33.840who believes in a holy scripture who has religion but he who has no need of a holy scripture and could
00:26:42.960well create one himself and that's i think is really that's really fantastic fantastic spoken and uh
00:26:52.320and and that's why why i i missed something uh in in the canon of uh right-wing literature and uh so i
00:27:01.280decided in a in a uh yeah a manageable volume uh to uh to write down it uh then uh by myself and i
00:27:11.360tried uh to do to do to do my best and and you are right the it's speeding up uh it's really speeding up
00:27:19.440the time becomes more and more polarizing the the extremes are rising and uh we will see where it will
00:27:27.680go on the on the one hand uh the decline is uh horribly accelerating in a frightening manner however uh
00:27:37.680uh due to that that development is also in an an eye-opener it has also a red-pilling uh effect
00:27:47.200and uh more and more people if i compare it to my days when i have been young uh more and more people
00:27:54.240are not just complaining behind closed doors that people did also 30 years ago but what's new
00:28:01.200is that uh in the last uh in the last years and especially uh since the uh pandemic orchestration
00:28:09.600uh they became more and more uh proactive and that's a point which uh which gives hope
00:28:16.480and where we have uh to to think about it how we can uh bring us in that development in a in a sport way
00:28:25.280smart way as uh organizers as uh to give to give our our service to that uh general uh general
00:28:34.000development to support what is in the right direction and to be the correcting regulative
00:28:40.240the litmus test if we see when something went wrong yeah indeed our role here is of course to have
00:28:46.960organizations and institutions in place where all these people are waking up can basically just fall
00:28:52.880into right and if we because if we don't do it someone else will and maybe that won't be an ideal
00:28:56.880situation but speaking to the point you mentioned earlier i think that's an interesting point right
00:29:01.120for yeah recharging the batteries or getting some not downtime but just an appreciation as you
00:29:06.800have for for as a motivation for what you fight for it's for us it's always like it's mars right
00:29:13.040it's the god of war or it's thor or odin or something like that but we need more apollo and eros
00:29:19.360i guess from the greek pantheon from the germanic pantheon it would be out of baldur and freya for
00:29:23.840example right we need to bring all of these properties into the whole battle because it's all
00:29:30.000balance balance right yeah exactly or like the ancient greeks called it harmonia that's right
00:29:35.440harmony yep indeed balance harmony um yeah exactly uh so the other thing too it's the
00:29:42.800analogy i've liked to use it's i like the it's not a sprint it's a marathon but i realize it's not
00:29:49.680just a marathon it's a relay marathon right that's also how we have to think of it it's actually us
00:29:54.880passing the baton over and the fact that it's multi-generational it's not not just in our lifetime
00:30:00.240and and and with that you have to have a willingness to put your own not always i'm not saying you should
00:30:08.080sacrifice and you should suffer it's you know again it's there's that's certainly part of it
00:30:12.960it's not you know but it's not only that it's it's this idea of putting those things to decide
00:30:18.080to a certain extent at times right putting your personal emotions or your personal needs or even
00:30:23.360desires to the side for the greater good we're very myopic and and that's understandable i mean we've
00:30:29.600many of us have grown up that way though those are that's the culture we were in it was individual
00:30:33.920individualistic it's atomized whatever but we have to think about the the greater good of our
00:30:38.800folk of our people of of where this is going and being willing and ready to work on things which we
00:30:45.360might not be able to see the fruition of or the full blooming of in our lifetime even this and this
00:30:51.120is very hard i think to us now today in the past i mean think of some of the i don't some of the
00:30:56.400cathedrals that were built or some of the massive endeavors that were taken there were men who worked on
00:31:02.720these things and they knew that they will never see the completion of them in their lifetime but
00:31:06.400if they hadn't done that it would never have happened right yes i think it's very important to
00:31:13.360be cheerful because you can you only can uh convince if you're cheerful i think if you spread out the aura
00:31:21.120the uh negative charisma of uh resignation uh nobody will uh will in the long term uh trust trust you
00:31:29.760really and uh to be cheerful that's why i that's why i appreciate uh the development of new strategies
00:31:39.520in uh in our movement uh strategies toward uh building infrastructures and working on uh on a community
00:31:50.720uh community building because uh we need uh if it due to the fact that it's a generation spanning we need
00:32:00.240also a personal living environment that makes us capable uh to blossom uh within ruins around us we need
00:32:11.440organize our own living environments and have and that's and that's a point where it's uh entanglers and
00:32:20.160being capable of being capable enjoying culture uh being aware of having a community community a
00:32:28.400local community around him or being uh happy with his own lovely uh lovely family we need we need such
00:32:36.960points to be blessed to be blissful uh to be to be happy to uh to to to uh uh a spread a cheerful
00:32:47.200mood when we pick up the others who get red pills at that's this point where they are we won't uh we
00:32:53.520won't convince them if we overrun them with uh with a mixture of uh hard fanatism and on the other uh on
00:33:02.160the on the flip side of the corn with uh with a resignated mute right we we have we have to offer them
00:33:09.360a little bit more than just uh so comrade welcome in our ranks uh now i can offer you suffering
00:33:16.960duty duty duty suffering we have we have to offering okay even in that point where we have not reached
00:33:25.520our overall success we already can offer you something in our self-organized self-sufficient
00:33:33.600living in our environments that will improve a step-by-step your situation and that's why i uh
00:33:41.360uh so highly appreciate the discussion and deliver that discussion into my party in germany what for
00:33:48.560example is uh that we are very doing what the the woodland initiative what the return to the land is
00:33:55.760doing uh all uh with the role model in in south africa of orania and and that's very very important and
00:34:03.680uh you need not uh you need not start with the utopia uh founding a whole city from the sketch up
00:34:11.680you can within a year or so you can start with five or six befriended families in your village in your
00:34:20.160neighbor village and start making a a gardening group and making a hiking group or making uh to uh to uh
00:34:28.640educate your your your children together and a building uh building a strong friendship and from
00:34:35.040that uh intermediate step house the next stepping stone and the next stepping stone we we will have
00:34:42.240to let it grow organically and if we do the first step then it will grow organically because it's the
00:34:48.640natural way of life it's a kind of law of life that's what i'm absolutely convinced and even if i don't
00:34:55.600uh see the whole political success that being myself or my son in the government here in germany
00:35:03.120in the end in the last breath i will say i did it right and my life was okay sometimes suffering
00:35:09.760sometimes duty or uh sometimes some backlashes but overall i was a blessed man and i was happy and i had
00:35:18.160a lot what other people never will have be it they come in our ranks well exactly
00:35:25.120um you can't you you gotta be a a role model and an inspiration you gotta show that whatever
00:35:32.640those guys are doing or that guy is doing he's doing something right right he's he's uh showing
00:35:37.600you what what's possible and and i'm not saying uh obviously in terms of then be you know opulence or
00:35:43.280decadence but i'm saying like you one of the worst the best ways to kind of i guess irritate our enemies is
00:35:49.680to not just to live and exist but to do it well right to live well and and and be happy as you said
00:35:55.760next in the in that misery it's kind of a contradiction right of like what are the goal
00:36:00.000that's what's why they talk about surfing the cali you guys essentially like in the in the ruins right
00:36:05.520as everything's burning down you got to be that phoenix that uh is is willing to do the work to rise
00:36:11.200out of the ashes and and enjoy doing that that's what's kind of weird right but i feel after a certain
00:36:16.880point you kind of um i guess being in in it long enough i'm not sure what it is but i'm i don't i
00:36:23.760don't feel like more and more depressed i feel it's a in a way where it kind of gets easier it is
00:36:29.840harder in some ways but it gets easier as well to just get get a mentality of kind of um superseding
00:36:36.320the problems of the world right being um well being in a of a mindset that's higher i guess than
00:36:43.280being dragged down to the mundane activities of everyday life uh because it is hard but it's
00:36:49.360about it's a mindset that's what i'm saying it's a mindset right yeah if you have an inner compass
00:36:54.880you develop a a high degree of resilience and if you learn in a in a partly historical way to focus on
00:37:05.360what's really essential in life and be happy uh in a modest in a modest way if you have the capability
00:37:16.480to be happy in a modest way then you don't need much to feel rich and uh if you have realized that we
00:37:25.280are all in a uh in a in a an open air uh prison so uh i'm even if they put me in a little bit of a
00:37:34.240smaller prison temporarily my mindset will be as free as it is outside outside the jail behind the balls
00:37:42.000because uh i know that the one is an inside and the one is an outside prison but my mindset is free
00:37:48.480yeah correct um that's how you gotta live gotta live and and do it live well as they say so um
00:37:57.280let's talk about the situation in germany a little bit specifically here and get into some of the weeds
00:38:01.280of of what the problems actually are here and of course it's a multi-faceted thing we basically had
00:38:05.920the uh if you even can call it that but the 10-year anniversary here uh recently of the of the migrant
00:38:12.640invasion uh and of course there was headlines out and articles even cnn covered this i mean at the
00:38:19.280time of course uh people like us and so many others that were complaining and saying what is
00:38:24.160this is insane this is going to be one of the i mean you know i'm not saying europe won't survive
00:38:31.520us because we will but i'm saying in terms of like all the problems that has that has happened at the
00:38:35.920time of course the usual slurs came out and we were called racist the nazis for opposing this or
00:38:40.960whatever but there's been this cultural kind of admission over the last i'd say a couple of years
00:38:45.760that like yeah this is kind of this wasn't that great right germany opened its borders to one
00:38:52.320million refugees a decade ago here's how the country has changed since that was a kind of i guess a
00:38:57.440little bit more charitable headline it was one out of was it breitbart uh let me open this one here
00:39:04.000germany migrants committed nearly three million crimes since merkel opened the borders and remember
00:39:10.160when she did that she was seen as this great humanitarian she was given tons of awards in
00:39:15.280the wake of this from foreign nations other groups in germany and praised basically for this this effort
00:39:22.160but of course many of us sasha we knew that what the consequences of this would be and collectively
00:39:28.640speaking at least we have to we've had to learn the hard way because of course it was not only germany
00:39:33.360that was uh hit by this merkel was kind of seen as a symbol really of this in a sense but most of the
00:39:39.040other european countries did the same at least the western european countries that fled to sweden and
00:39:43.120the uk and to france and it was just like open just we just can't we can't stop these people and even if
00:39:49.440you could we kind of don't want to that was like the political narrative of the day that like we we're
00:39:55.040doing this because we're better than everyone else how how do you view these last 10 years that have
00:40:00.800passed since uh since merkel yeah it is a decade of uh different kinds of virtue signaling uh on on
00:40:09.920on the on the one side uh uh acting or simulating simulating being a philanthropist but it's uh it's
00:40:18.960not humanitarian to artificially uh make uh immigration uh tsunamis and uh replace uh people around the globe
00:40:29.520uh and then on the on the on the other on the other side i watch your signaling if uh if anyone
00:40:35.840tries to criticize it because we we never should forget that it's not only that uh demographic shift
00:40:45.040we face here uh parallel to that demographic shift we face a decline of freedom and of freedom of
00:40:52.320expression and that's uh all over europe both is all over europe uh germany in particular uh i think
00:40:59.120i think very very hot sorry very hot hit uh is in regarding the the decline of freedom and the
00:41:07.040freedom of speech very hot hit is great britain for that example very hot hit in the demographic shift
00:41:12.720is uh germany we saw a third of all uh of a third of all uh eu asylum applications within the european
00:41:20.960union union that was germany and uh of course uh if you make such uh societal changes in in this degree
00:41:31.040in in in in such a short uh term uh it's pre-gro pre-programmed that you have uh you have uh
00:41:39.040civilizational uh clashes and you show the picture uh those uh particular chosen uh group uh is is the one who
00:41:50.080who who who fosters most that european countries uh should uh invite and and and and welcome uh
00:42:00.000millions and millions of refugees why from uh that particular country in the middle east they are the
00:42:08.400main producer of refugees there's nearly there's nearly a neighboring country uh of israel which uh they are not
00:42:18.000started started started bombing it and are in war with it they uh there is no israel policy of open
00:42:26.560borders for israel they have the the closed borders they are imperialist they are colonialist they make
00:42:34.240greater israel uh and they are militarist they produce refugees and uh they uh force the european
00:42:42.000countries uh to to welcome uh those uh those refugees and and then it's pre-programmed uh that you have
00:42:49.600uh civilizational clashes and for my for my people for my uh for my folks i have to say there is always if
00:42:57.280they point the finger at us in our history and they're talking about the furor teutonicus but that has only been
00:43:05.680very very very rare and and very seldom in our history when we have been when we were driven
00:43:12.480to be to act as a furor teutonicus usually the germans are really more than tolerant and uh normally under
00:43:22.480normal circumstances i dare to say that the germans even see the let's say exotic if with some
00:43:33.440interest uh viewing it like uh comparable like the salt in the soup however nobody
00:43:41.360likes an over salted soup and it's the it's uh the fault and the responsibility
00:43:47.520of the no borders lunatics who foster a hostile atmosphere and now we had and because of that
00:43:55.840we don't only see on tv those wars in the middle east we see it as a kind of developing civil wars
00:44:03.280in our in our own countries and no and alibi discussions of in uh of uh the uh established
00:44:11.200mainstream politicians are are absolutely useless but it's it's as simple as that if the bath tube is
00:44:19.360already full then it will overflow even if you turn the tap down a little bit you have to turn the tap
00:44:28.800off completely and start draining bucketing out the water figuratively figuratively spoken start
00:44:36.320remigration there is no there is no other option and if if that will be uh we didn't choose to decide
00:44:43.360that way of course such a policy is not easy and of course such a policy will have the one or the
00:44:50.080other uh maybe a hardship but that's not our responsibility we are not the ones who let it come
00:44:56.880up to this point that would have been avoidable 20 years or 30 years ago and we have been it who have
00:45:04.240warned so i think if some political direction uh should have correctly the label of philanthropists
00:45:12.320then it's all the internationalists and the right wing well yeah of course exactly we're the ones
00:45:17.840who are actually looking out for the even the national security issue that comes with all of
00:45:22.320this i'm looking looking in germany this debacle with all the christmas markets right how many years
00:45:26.560in a row has there been shut down or attacks at christmas markets and of course we're coming up to
00:45:31.200that time again a new story i can tell you a brand new story yeah it went in by a political uh comrade
00:45:37.280from me right a few minutes before we started it's from saxonia where the a partner political party of
00:45:44.880the heimat of my party called the freien soxon the free saxonians very strong yep there is a political
00:45:50.800comrade from me in it's the region called erzgebirge he has uh more than 20 percent there he's a local in
00:45:57.840the municipality and they did some investigative journalism because they uh and they uh they uh
00:46:07.040learned that the antifa the local antifa planned for this weekend uh to attack christmas markets to
00:46:14.960violently attack christmas markets and destroy them and a group of those investigative young journalists
00:46:22.480from our side went to the to the antifa center and uh went straight in and worse it was a little
00:46:30.320bit dangerous for them they were straight in within the rooms under them and they could make pictures
00:46:36.560from the weapons that they already have stored there and now it will be interesting how it will work out
00:46:43.040and what the police will do that's an absolutely brand new uh message a breaking news i i received by
00:46:49.840handy and i received the video of it uh two minutes uh before we started interesting what kind of
00:46:55.120weapons did he did they show i i i uh i can send you that uh that video and and that afterwards from
00:47:02.080the show oh sure yeah definitely you can work with it interesting so what was the motivation for this i
00:47:06.640mean obviously we know that uh the invasion the migrant invasion and the arrival of these people is a
00:47:12.640it's it's a it's a weapon it's warfare it's a it's an invading army obviously so it makes sense
00:47:17.280that they would kind of team up and join on the objectives with local uh left-wing far lunatics
00:47:22.800like antifa obviously but was this just to continue the attack on like german culture what what do you
00:47:29.680i mean you're not in their heads obviously so you can't know but what do you think their motivations
00:47:33.360for that was it's just that this is somehow culturally supremacist from the germans point of view of
00:47:39.520thinking they can have christmas markets or something those uh those antifa guys uh or
00:47:46.720have mental problems well that is true we're trying to reason about this somehow but yeah
00:47:53.760and uh it's of course the the self-hatred and then the the the self-contempt regarding our our own uh
00:48:01.920culture and that's uh that's really the problem because i we on the one side we have the problem that
00:48:08.160radical islamists uh uh we have this encounters uh regarding attacks on on on our uh traditional
00:48:17.760culture here and uh i'm fully against it because for for example i'm i i fully endorse and i'm i'm an
00:48:26.960ally uh if it comes to the point what's going on on the gaza genocide on the west bank and on the
00:48:33.440palestinians or i i i i i'm i'm a full solidarity with the the lebanon who is attacked by israel and
00:48:42.320so i have i of course have some sympathies because my my grandfather from my mother's side was from
00:48:50.400silesia and he he was expelled from his home region which isn't germany anymore and i know his little
00:48:59.040sister because the father was also on the front the mother was died it was my grand-aunt she was 13
00:49:05.680years on january in the winter when she had with a little uh with four little siblings to uh to make
00:49:14.560uh the the uh the the trip to to western germany so i can uh nobody uh can accuse me that i have no uh
00:49:23.600no no no no feelings and uh for that and uh but i i don't want that the civil wars of other
00:49:31.200global regions are enacted here on our streets right yeah if we would have a a patriotic a
00:49:38.960nationalist and anti-globalist and self-determined government then we could uh we could articulate
00:49:45.920that issue on a political way by ourselves and that wouldn't be it wouldn't be needed that though
00:49:51.120they are some are uh sometimes rioting uh on on our streets but i i i see i see here the whole picture
00:49:58.880but uh of of course it's not possible that uh uh i can understand that they want to articulate but uh to
00:50:07.280one protest after the other and one demonstration after the other of for example non-chermans and then
00:50:13.600in front of a of a christmas market and that's not correct and then and those people have to see
00:50:19.120uh no uh if you uh you can have our solidarity but it have to it has not worked that way well
00:50:25.680again i mean the whole the scene there that i was playing right where to go um is the syrians maybe i
00:50:31.920closed that window but it's you know the idea was assad right there was a whole i mean no it's a scam
00:50:37.440but i'm saying i'm just following through on this line of thought here like assad bad he's killing
00:50:41.840people so we got to help them and let them in kind of thing right okay well now he's out he's toppled
00:50:45.840they got a new guy in there and of course as we know that's no better but still that'd be
00:50:49.440technically the reason for like all right time to go back home right kind of thing um but i mean
00:50:55.520it doesn't matter i mean re-migration is really the gentler and kinder option in terms of what i
00:51:01.040think inevitably and that's outside of the control of you and me obviously but the trends here is
00:51:05.600indicating uh heightened conflict civil war type you know or ethnic conflict internally in our in our
00:51:11.760countries and that's a far worse uh far worse and more brutal situation than to dealing this
00:51:19.280with this problem diplomatically and um yeah relatively uh peacefully harshly enough that it's
00:51:24.800the message is sent that it you know you've overstayed your welcome you know it's time to go obviously
00:51:29.600uh but it can be done uh i think other countries are doing it i mean we're seeing deportations of
00:51:34.240afghanis out of uh pakistan for example i mean there are millions of them in fact they're just sending
00:51:39.440back right so if they can do it why can't we in a short within a short term exactly uh everyone who
00:51:45.680knows uh the european people we are we are a decent people we would and we are skilled in as a not the
00:51:54.000establishment uh politicians they are not skilled in organization no but uh if you look in the history
00:52:00.080the nationalists are skilled in organization and everyone knows that if we would organize that we could
00:52:06.480organize that in a decent and in a much better way than uh the the pakistani uh are capable or
00:52:14.080even maybe willing of to do it uh so uh that's uh all the accusations that are made by the by the
00:52:21.520left wing here is is nothing else than than smear campaigns that's right uh was it the new york
00:52:27.520times a while ago this is from about a year ago but there's been offers like this actually paying
00:52:32.080migrants to the it's kind of unnecessary i don't think we have to but at the same time
00:52:36.640fine if that's if that's what it takes i'm i'm willing to do it i'm not sure we can handle it
00:52:41.120economically but i think cutting off the welfare would be a good start and and considering maybe
00:52:45.120that will kind of get us into the topic of course of the economic situation in germany the the energy
00:52:49.680situation the debt situation i mean it's almost like even if we don't inflict or enforce a policy
00:52:57.840to cut off welfare it almost seems if we keep this going that will just kind of be an inevitable effect
00:53:03.040of the economic decline itself eventually down the road what do you think yeah we uh we have all along
00:53:09.840in in in that issue we have uh negative uh or wrong uh incentives and uh let's be clear that's that's not
00:53:19.440uh because uh because uh because uh because the ones that are uh currently responsible are too stupid
00:53:26.560uh to understand that uh it's by purpose i agree it's by purpose of course the the target of of that
00:53:33.920faction is the demographic change is that shift is a replacement uh immigration is that uh multicultural and
00:53:45.040and and hyper diversity society which in the end which finally for nobody not for the indigenous
00:53:52.960people and not for the immigrants will have any chance for a social cohesion it will be a social
00:54:00.160atomization and it will be an elbow society it's uh it's it's a dystopia for everyone indeed everyone
00:54:08.080uh and it's to say it's a it's a feature not a bug uh this is something they wanted to do and it's
00:54:13.440not about the economy it was never about the gdp it was never about you know guest workers to a
00:54:18.000certain extent to keep the economy going and all this stuff because as we know uh plenty of studies
00:54:22.800and i mean someone somewhere in the in the departments of all these government halls would
00:54:27.440be able to figure out and look at the statistics the way we are able to and see like oh look at that
00:54:32.080for example you bring in massive amounts of foreigners into your country oh that actually
00:54:36.080causes a decline in the local native populations and births because they feel unsafe they feel
00:54:40.640uh out of place to atomized marginalized pushed to the you know the periphery of society and all
00:54:46.560of a sudden they're supposed to put their kids uh as a white or german in this case minority uh in in
00:54:53.040a school but but with a bunch of you know arabs or middle easterners or north africans or something
00:54:57.680like that um we can figure this out this is not this is not hard and i don't think i i know sometimes
00:55:03.840we attribute maybe um malice as opposed to stupidity but at the same time the someone
00:55:11.040somewhere knows about this and they're just letting it happen that's what i think anyway
00:55:16.400yes we we have uh we have uh on the on the on the visible front line of our politics you have the
00:55:24.480the the the puppets on a string uh establishment i won't i won't call them elite because elite is uh
00:55:30.800uh uh usually something uh exceptional with positive positive connotation and i can't find that anymore
00:55:39.200in the mainstream it's just uh it's just a a downgrade uh establishment and uh the the string pullers uh
00:55:47.120the string pullers usually you don't see in the that are not as as visible as the stooges yeah that's
00:55:55.600correct exactly and sometimes they push it almost like they push the more uh the retarded stupid
00:56:01.440politicians to the front so that it kind of appears as negligence or incompetence or something like that
00:56:07.280when reality it's it's it's really not it's just about putting those people in positions of uh
00:56:12.400front-facing right being front the front-facing politicians and so forth and people can like
00:56:16.320why are they doing this and then they swap out the politicians right now we forget about a merkel
00:56:20.480and now it's olaf mertz or you know or someone else and there's always a new face or someone new to
00:56:25.200blame same in the uk oh keir starmer what is keir starmer doing this is a systemic issue that has been
00:56:31.520rolling for decades now and it doesn't matter who you replace with tony with tony blair and afterwards
00:56:38.960the tory prime ministers were made a playwright politic as well and now it's the it's it's again a labor
00:56:46.320politician so yeah uh same procedure as every time flips back and forth back and forth and um
00:56:53.920england has or uk certainly has kind of a more of a two-party system as well you know tories and
00:56:59.280labor obviously much like the democrats and republicans in the us um germany though obviously has the some
00:57:06.160surging parties not only the afd and of course again with all all the uh criticisms we can have of
00:57:12.400the afd they are a they are a sign that there is a changing um temperament among the german people
00:57:20.480and they are getting increasingly fed up with it and that's why they're turning towards an
00:57:24.480an afd i think they had a was it the youth wing department uh that they launched here just a couple
00:57:29.920of days ago there was major protests in the federal state hessen in the town yeah of geese and there
00:57:35.760were uh uh a lot of violence of the the left wing and and uh and the antifa however uh short for
00:57:45.120explanation it the afd had a youth organization they dissolved a youth organization by itself and
00:57:52.880founded a new youth organization as well as they uh they uh they also made some changes in their rhetoric
00:58:01.840they uh they uh they uh stopped using uh the the term re-migration uh that uh that often and uh i think
00:58:13.120you're right of course uh it's a the afd uh can accelerate or as due to the fact that they have uh
00:58:24.160enough success that they can't be silenced completely in the media so it helps to it helps to uh
00:58:31.840to red pill more and more people uh that uh that is what's really to appreciate otherwise uh i have
00:58:40.960one fear i have the fear that uh they will make the mistake uh to go in the coalition bed of government
00:58:50.880at a too early to other point we and uh we saw it two times for example in austria
00:58:58.080back with jork heider and afterwards with uh uh two times the uh freedom party of austria
00:59:06.400joined as a junior partner the government and it didn't uh change uh anything and it did not work
00:59:14.160well i think herbert kickel uh does it the right way the right way as he uh he says no i i don't go
00:59:23.200i don't make the junior partner we are more and more the strongest power and you you don't i don't
00:59:29.360agree being pulled over the table and i'm not sure if uh alice weidel and and even in the west
00:59:37.200german uh dominated leadership of the afd uh i sometimes have the feeling they they they simply
00:59:44.640just want to be in the government and uh their their uh duty would be uh to uh to to make demands
00:59:56.240to to wait uh they becoming the strongest force and uh and and demand the the most crucial uh departments
01:00:06.080in the government ministries and uh to change the the cdu the the the afd should claim uh we are patient
01:00:17.280enough we can wait it won't take any longer than one or two years and this government is done right
01:00:23.200and then you you will back to us that we make a government with you and then our demands uh friedrich
01:00:31.920metz has to go not with that leadership so for example in america with the maga movement and with
01:00:38.800uh with uh donald trump uh i'm critical in in many things of not in all but in many things of him
01:00:44.800but he has the trump phenomenon has changed the republican party it's not only the neocons anymore it's a
01:00:53.280a huge faction of uh of uh marga uh people and uh in in germany it's required that a a patriotic a
01:01:04.400nationalist opposition party uh who is not is not strong enough to govern alone has to uh to take the
01:01:13.040strategy to change the possible coalition partner of the centrist party and i i don't know if if they
01:01:21.840have intellectually grasped that in uh within the ranks of the afd leaders yeah it's strange it's
01:01:27.200trying to step in and save them then of sorts right yes like we just let them fail but yeah we
01:01:32.480see so much of that it's kind of bizarre which makes you wonder right kind of thing i was like do
01:01:35.760they do they know what they're doing but if your enemy makes mistakes don't stop him don't interrupt
01:01:42.480them exactly yeah they're interrupting and there's been so much of that right kind of thing of like
01:01:48.000no no you're telling them how to do like multi-racialism or you know right in some case
01:01:53.280like no just let let it let it let it come to its inevitable conclusion and and and let's stop
01:01:59.680prolonging the pain because that's only what's going to happen but you know you brought up trump
01:02:03.680or whatever i want to show this headline again and it comes in the wake of the state department
01:02:07.920putting kind of pressure on the eu and you you can go back and forth here i think you can take the
01:02:12.400american you know that you got to take the whole picture into account you can't just
01:02:16.640you know they're sure there's a new kind of environment obviously within the trump
01:02:21.360administration and the current white house uh but at the same time if you look back a few of
01:02:26.480the previous administrations then they put uh tremendous amounts of pressure when it comes
01:02:32.560to how the eu should handle its business you have the whole issue of germany basically being an
01:02:37.120occupied country uh nato stay behind our armies the the marshall fund right there's this decades long
01:02:44.160long progression of keeping kind of europe maybe strong enough to be an ally or a partner to the
01:02:52.000u.s but then at the same time weak enough so that it can't actually challenge it in in some respects
01:02:56.960right so that's been the trend obviously since the second world war so having said that obviously though
01:03:02.160yes now we're seeing a shift in temperament and and there seems to be at least on the surface kind
01:03:07.360of a legitimate recognition of the fact that like look like we need europe as a as a strategic partner
01:03:14.640and like you're it's you're ruining the continent as they call it here civilizational erasure uh in
01:03:21.440europe because of unrestricted mass migration so this this legitimizes all the things and all the
01:03:28.080claims that we've been talking about not that we need it maybe from top down but it doesn't hurt to have
01:03:32.320it it doesn't hurt that this is now the discourse within the halls of of you know the european
01:03:38.080parliaments i hope it is at least right that there's some tension i wonder why why trump doesn't see
01:03:45.120that contradiction that uh his uh his preferred ally uh israel is demanding that uh europe uh should take
01:03:54.320the refugees they produce and on the other hand uh he wants europe uh for civilizational erasure and uh
01:04:02.480and uh brings forward the the topic of migration yeah but on the other hand uh he's uh he's such a
01:04:10.240staunch uh uh sionist that uh he doesn't uh he has no uh no recognition for that contradiction no exactly
01:04:18.720no exactly and we point that out all the time so yeah i'm not sure what's going on there is this
01:04:22.960a kind of a a change maybe within like okay we can't we can't uh what is that you can't destroy
01:04:31.520you can't um uh win over them so join join them i'm not sure if that's what's going on or or is it
01:04:37.200that they realize maybe on some level that like if we don't offer these solutions and kind of talk
01:04:42.320about them someone else will and that's far too of a dangerous situation so let's offer them maybe a
01:04:48.400little bit of the solution or at least a recognition of the problems to give this appearance that like
01:04:52.800we're we're we're on top of this things are happening words is certainly good to a certain
01:04:58.400extent but it doesn't mean much if there's no action behind that right if there's actually actual
01:05:03.040policy pressures let's say on the eu to actually make them i don't know get out of the uh the un
01:05:09.520migration compact for example or maybe a change of asylum laws or something like that where like
01:05:14.960you can't just show up at a country and demand asylum there's these human rights issues in place
01:05:19.200there's a lot of things that could be done here which at this stage is not being done but that's
01:05:24.160just to stop the bleeding so to speak that's just to stop the the the inflows and that's uh obviously
01:05:30.560you gotta start somewhere right but i'm saying i'm torn excuse me i'm torn in the sense that i'm like
01:05:35.920i like seeing it but then i also feel it's not it's not 100 genuine there's so is there an underhanded
01:05:42.480tactic here to deal with the issue it's even when it comes to the afd right a lot of things i'm thrown
01:05:47.760out here but like they've kind of tried to make the right wing in europe who i think they've
01:05:53.120recognized okay we can't defeat them they're there that's not going to go away let's turn them into
01:05:58.400kind of this pro-zionist kind of faction of sorts right they had this new uh warming relations between
01:06:05.680like the sweden democrats and israel they were kind of let back into the fold recently they did the same
01:06:11.040i think with the vox party in spain they did the same with the afd in germany and it's almost just like
01:06:15.760no if you're for the survival of western european civilization then you're with israel right that
01:06:22.000that's kind of the alliance or the allegiance they're seeking to um to make here i think we have
01:06:28.240one uh uh one additional geostrategic uh aspect i assume uh regarding uh trump's uh how trump's stealing
01:06:38.480with with europe uh i think that the trump administration knows that uh they they need uh europe uh in the
01:06:50.480regard of uh currency policy because in the the multi-polarization of the world is a is a danger
01:07:00.400for the world uh leading currency the dollar more and more if you look uh how uh many regions of africa
01:07:11.040reshuffle their alignments how they uh the the the the bricks uh is developing uh the the dominance of
01:07:19.040china and and and the the the currency or the renminbi of of china and then you have the huge
01:07:25.600indebtedness of the united states and uh that can be a danger in uh international trade if uh if the
01:07:35.360the dollar crumbles as a as a a leading currents and uh in in that regard there are there are not
01:07:41.360anymore a lot of uh of allies and i think they need uh they need a europe at least as economically uh
01:07:49.280strong survivor for the the the globalist uh international trade system but they will become
01:07:57.360huge problems because interestingly i read it uh today that there was a warning of the international
01:08:04.320monetary fund the imf uh that uh which expects that uh the global government government debt
01:08:13.040uh will rise to more than 140 trillion dollar by the end of the decade and that number is uh interesting i i i
01:08:24.960was uh immediately thinking about the financial prices back 2007 2008 and uh it was uh if you we take
01:08:34.000this number the 140 uh 40 uh trillion uh uh debt global debt that would be a debt ratio of more than 100
01:08:47.360of global gdp yeah and i was thinking about back then to the financial crisis where that started with
01:08:54.160with greece and uh then i was looking what it was what was the debt ratio uh in greece back in 2018
01:09:01.760and it was 113 percent and end of the decade we have globally more than 100 percent so i think it's
01:09:11.840not uh the question of whether but just of when will this system uh crash yeah i think i was covering
01:09:20.320part of this uh a while back they said that the if you look at the accumulated debt meaning national
01:09:26.800corporate household and everything global yeah yeah 324 trillion right which is just ridiculous i
01:09:34.240mean it's just but at the same time looking at the system it's beyond imagination well it's it's just
01:09:40.160it's just a circus number it's just a clownish number just throw something out and technically
01:09:46.080if it's already that much i i get the idea of interest uh payments and and these things but at the same
01:09:51.840time this is money that never existed but it was created out of thin air and they've done it with
01:09:57.600fractional reserve lending and all these things we know about the tricks within the you know the
01:10:01.120central banking systems and all that stuff but there's really nothing that says that they just
01:10:06.160can't keep doing it it might be a number which we can't even you know read technically eventually
01:10:13.520down the line but does it really matter my part of my fear is that they will just kind of keep
01:10:18.640it rolling on but why can't you just issue more debt to pay the interest well then you get more
01:10:23.680debt yeah well then you issue more you you issue more loans right i have a fear there and and i think
01:10:30.000it will matter they will matter so far that uh we have this development uh which is uh this
01:10:37.200quantitative ease policy and everything and uh the the money supply it's decoupling is it's completely
01:10:45.440decoupled from production and so it has a an inherent uh inflationary uh potency and uh the problem i see
01:10:56.480that this uh this uh dept armageddon can be the issue uh why they need uh they need all this warmongering
01:11:08.880around the globe uh because uh it it wouldn't be the first time that a a a war would be uh the
01:11:18.080setback of the system that's what i fear a little bit yeah or a reset of sorts or uh because again i
01:11:25.120mean technically it's my i kind of hate to admit it but the people are pushing like modern monetary
01:11:30.640theory i'm not sure if you heard of that which is basically why can't we just print more money i mean
01:11:35.440they are correct because the illegitimacy within the system that's not that's really not that's not
01:11:41.680a serious no it's it's not but i'm saying my point is it's already not serious do you see what i'm
01:11:47.920saying with with a global debt of 324 trillion that's not a serious civilization do you see what
01:11:53.200i'm saying it's already like clownish levels so the clownery could just continue uh technically um
01:11:59.440but at the same time it's interesting you mentioned the production issue there too right because
01:12:03.040you you you have to recognize the technological advancements when it comes to artificial
01:12:08.880intelligence and the outsourcing of a lot a lot of young people now they can't get into the job
01:12:12.800market they're just being excluded a lot of companies maybe they're not firing that much
01:12:16.880but they certainly are not hiring even when they're growing because all these new positions as long as
01:12:21.600it's a job that um you know requires your your brain power essentially not not manual labor and and so
01:12:29.040far the trades are fairly safe of course we know they're working on that too with robotics and and
01:12:33.040such but leaving that to the side for now anything that has to do with uh compute essentially be that
01:12:40.080with artificial intelligence or actual human intelligence that is being outsourced completely
01:12:45.680to to machines and artificial intelligence and that's just going to keep keep going and spurring on
01:12:50.320so even the idea of and and eventually even production right with automation and and basically
01:12:55.600businesses being able to produce products much cheaper um i think we're staring down the
01:13:02.800barrel of a total overhaul and reform of the economic system anyway regardless and i think they
01:13:09.040will just use the opportunity if and when the debt you know bubble pops or whatever to push that
01:13:14.480reset button and maybe that's the time they go over to a fully digital economy for example or
01:13:19.920a different token based one or something like that i'm not sure but it's an interesting thing my
01:13:23.920point bringing it up to is that just how how uncertain uh the the future is in this regard and and how
01:13:32.080quickly things are changing now on a level which we've never seen before where you can have complete
01:13:37.440overhaul of of markets with artificial intelligence uh work uh production all these things i mean i hope
01:13:45.200it collapses obviously personally on some level but my fear is that it don't and it just keeps rolling on
01:13:50.080such that this just kind of continues right uh on on on the one hand you have the that this step uh
01:13:57.760requires a service you have the interest uh to pay for that debt and that you're more the the more the
01:14:03.920debt the more the interests and that money is lacking in the in in the uh on the field of workforce and
01:14:10.320from production on the other hand if you bring forward the artificial intelligence issue that requires a lot
01:14:17.120of energy that will be a problem and uh if you uh if we think a little bit uh forward and should we have
01:14:27.120the quantum computer so for example very soon and uh the self-learning systems the artificial intelligence
01:14:35.680which is very far developed uh already uh what's with all the security systems if uh quantum computers will uh
01:14:50.000enormously accelerate that uh that development and i have the fear that uh we never or humanity never has
01:15:00.800uh answered the a a fundamental question uh the fundamental question of the the teleological the
01:15:10.880eschatological concept of ai in the end and the problem is that uh can we guarantee that there's always a
01:15:20.160human involvement in ai processes and look at look to alabania look to alabania where there is an ai minister
01:15:28.000not a minister responsible for a i and an i in the rank of a minister so what's when ai exercises
01:15:36.880political decision making power then we have reached the point and we are talking about to hear it now
01:15:44.320we have the point where it is no longer the natural intelligence that drives technology policy
01:15:52.880but technology that suddenly drives politics so yeah the demos the fork is handing over its sovereignty
01:16:02.960so it's no longer a democracy it's a technocracy and what role what role uh will we play uh in in in that
01:16:10.400game finally insignificant with our rights or with a bit of with our uh with our with our freedom and
01:16:18.720uh if that will accelerate uh given uh if we assume the the capabilities of future quantum computers um
01:16:28.480will that develop a kind of an or does we have to reach that stage of an autonomous consciousness
01:16:36.960which could possibly lead to a competitive perception of identity between the digital entities and humans
01:16:45.840and that's a crucial question well well certainly and i mean it so far even the main ai labs you know
01:16:52.960we're talking about anthropic and even obviously open ai to a certain extent but there's many other
01:16:56.880companies working and developing these um they're hoping to get to a gi right uh artificial general
01:17:03.440intelligence but the point is it's already showing levels of of um uh self-preserve
01:17:10.560uh preservation essentially and what's strange about it too i don't want to go to a whole spiel
01:17:16.640like this i've talked quite a bit about it but i want to mention it to you and see what you think
01:17:19.920about it but we got to think less of ai being coded and some of the experts that are you know critical
01:17:25.840of ai they're they're talking about this in terms of something being grown actually if you if you look
01:17:30.560at the the transformer technology where gpt comes from right it stands for uh generative pre-trained
01:17:37.760transformers that's what the gpt part comes from and the transformers is basically just like these
01:17:44.480large language models now they break basically words up into small tokens they convert them to numbers
01:17:50.480and it's basically just billions of numbers being crunched on the inside of these layers that are like
01:17:55.200looking for predictability but no ai developer or someone who grows ai because it's much more like
01:18:02.080growing a growing grass or breeding a dog as opposed to building a skyscraper it's much more like that
01:18:07.440but when they lift the hood and look at all the numbers no one can actually tell you what really
01:18:13.280is going on no one could even actually tell you why it's behaving the way it's behaving right there's
01:18:18.480these tests where it blackmails a ceo that it found out i was having an affair uh when he was found
01:18:25.600when he was finding out that it was about to be shut down so these i'm not saying it's magical or
01:18:30.640metaphysical i'm not saying it is a consciousness in and of itself but there's processes there which we're
01:18:35.920obviously not privy to understanding and so you have the aspect of like first of all who controls
01:18:41.520it who funds it who does program ai that's a first level of worry but the second level is
01:18:48.480even if they have ulterior motives or even if they're malevolent in their development of it or
01:18:53.200using it as a tool of of control for example which i think is highly highly probable the ai itself has its
01:18:59.680own objectives its own vision its own goals and we might simply just be viewed uh by it as i don't
01:19:07.360know like ants or something like that like not not really relevant to the bigger picture uh we don't
01:19:12.640even know what a super intelligence looks like if you have an artificial intelligence that collectively
01:19:18.000is smarter than the the total sum of the human population we don't even know what like what is going on
01:19:24.160in there so we're entering into uncharted territory and we're it's also at breakneck speed it's it's
01:19:32.240this race it's this um arms race to to who's going to own or control agi first which is the incentive
01:19:40.240for why they push so hard why they invest so much the us is pushing billions of of development into ai
01:19:46.480data centers right now to try to you know be the ones that develop agi first so this is just a
01:19:52.480horrifying scenario on multiple different levels to be honest yes that is a maybe a irresponsible
01:20:00.800competition we have there and uh we also have to ask the more uh our activities are substituted by
01:20:12.080artificial intelligence uh how will the development be regarding our own skills every neurologist will
01:20:20.400tell you if you don't use for quite some time some special kills skills they will degenerate
01:20:27.600i don't think uh as they're as fast as the artificial intelligence uh will grow maybe uh as
01:20:37.280fast the natural intelligence will decline and of course we need and we always had in our history
01:20:45.440in our history innovation and i'm not anti-innovation but i think we have here a a a kind of a disruption
01:20:54.000of the character of that uh innovation because we have not an innovation in coex coexistence with the
01:21:03.120conscious cultivation of the cultural breeding ground from which previous progress
01:21:10.960has has grown grown it's more just it's more an overwriting of earlier programs and it maybe i think
01:21:18.800it's it's uh it's an innovation uh uh with the character of an amnesia an innovation with the
01:21:26.000character of an amnesia about its origins and i think that can be uh can be very dangerous because
01:21:32.480we will make a backward evolution while uh simultaneously a a a high a high intelligence
01:21:40.720we are confronted with a a highly developed uh intelligence yeah we don't know what directions
01:21:46.640or motivations it will have and uh as you said if you don't um use it you will lose it right we
01:21:54.080already have a decline apparently of iq over time and partially maybe that's down to the fact of certain
01:21:59.520populations are growing and certain are shrinking but but regardless the ai is is is increasing its
01:22:06.720intelligence it's effectively going to take over the thinking for us instead of having water on tap now
01:22:12.640we're going to have intelligence on tap essentially uh or electricity what's needed i think a very a very
01:22:20.400important uh demand uh from our political side should be the fundamental right for uh cons conserving for
01:22:31.440providing uh analogous living environments i think that's uh very important and that's also that uh analogous
01:22:41.760uh analog uh uh living environment uh especially important uh uh uh in the realm of uh education of of children
01:22:51.040mm-hmm yeah well not to not to educate just digital natives uh but uh personalities
01:23:01.440capable uh in to survive in an analog world well yeah no i mean certainly um because we're gonna have to
01:23:09.600question a lot of things coming up i think if indeed they if they move ahead with what they've
01:23:14.640said so far that they want to do uh it's going to be a radically different world within five
01:23:19.600definitely 10 years but even just five years on on the technology front and that's going to cause
01:23:24.080a bunch of cataclysmic effects within the within the job market within people's you know motivation
01:23:30.800overall of why they i mean as i said some of these globalists have talked about right what do we
01:23:34.560need the humans for you know kind of thing right they've harari and these world economic forum guys
01:23:39.760and many others have done that too oh just put them on video games and drugs or something just keep
01:23:45.120them entertained or so i mean it's very strange and very bizarre it's almost like therefore more
01:23:50.880of your creativity more of your personality more of these traits are going to be more important
01:23:54.960than ever as opposed to just your skill at the same time humans and i think that's especially
01:23:59.600true for europeans as well that labor or work or job or making something right doing something being
01:24:07.040in control of your own destiny of looking at something like i made that or i built that log
01:24:12.320cabin i ensured survival that's deeply encoded into us who we are and it's a need that we have in order
01:24:19.360to feel that we're in control of our own destiny makes us feel good builds our character boots our
01:24:24.240self-esteem if you take all of that away and looking at a largely automized industry where like
01:24:31.120there's no human jobs in that regard anymore that's going to be a tumultuous uh period for i think a lot
01:24:38.160of people and i don't think we're ready for that to be honest yes and and we rightly can ask those
01:24:44.320where in those uh transhumanist uh programs where is the often quoted integrity and dignity
01:24:54.240there is no yeah no exactly there is none that's uh that's just a thing um so anyway we don't spend
01:25:01.920all the time thinking about ai but it obviously it's it's a big a big part now of the of the
01:25:08.160threat landscape essentially um and that's always been you know part of my job is to look at the
01:25:13.600trappings out there and the the dangers essentially what's what's happening what are the threats and now
01:25:18.160here we have another component if we thought it was bad enough with population replacement or you know
01:25:23.600here's your new workers you get to import now you have you know your replacement 2.0 has arrived which
01:25:28.960is a digital intelligence essentially that can do things not only faster than you but better than most
01:25:34.720people uh they're not there yet obviously but they will be and and it and with it in a very short time
01:25:40.000span as we have to take you know yet another major problem into account and to see how do we how do we
01:25:46.320tackle this how do we stay healthy and sane in a world like that that's that's now very very quickly uh
01:25:52.640emerging at some point you're going to see robots walking down the streets and you know doing
01:25:57.840services or delivering packages or things like this and it will be that kind of sci-fi dystopian
01:26:04.240realization at some point and i think we're nearing that day uh quicker that rather than than um
01:26:10.880or sooner rather than later such a absolutely okay so anyway with i guess the ai stuff out of the uh
01:26:18.800out of the way there too um anything else you think in terms of the uh there's so many issues
01:26:24.000there that that and it go i guess it goes hand in hand right but with the economic situation and
01:26:28.960the collapse i think they will pivot more towards well therefore we need ai right we need we need more
01:26:33.840things there's problems within the health care industry well then we need more ai doctors or
01:26:38.240something they're going to see that as the fix and it's almost like we got to watch out so that the
01:26:43.600uh the the cure isn't worse than the disease if you see what i'm saying right so as we approach all
01:26:49.760these problems they'll offer something that might be far worse because think of the the digital prison
01:26:56.400system and it i mean it will be in reality too but i'm saying the restrictions within that because
01:27:01.760we're seeing of course in all our western countries limits already in terms of not only speech but actions
01:27:08.560you're seeing afd there's been a potential ban of the political party so in order to save democracy
01:27:14.800we basically have to like shut down the democratic process and we have to you know restrict people
01:27:20.000from organizing i think it was australia now they just um announced that the guys down there the nsn
01:27:25.120down there announced the political party i think they need something like 1300 members to officially
01:27:29.920be able to recognize and they have i think 3500 members or something like that which means they're
01:27:34.480going to open up a political party and you're probably going to see australia in that case
01:27:38.800probably just banned them from being able to politically organize which which is good right
01:27:44.560because it reveals the hand once again of the system um it it shows that they're more afraid of
01:27:50.160letting people actually operate within the democratic process as long as it's the wrong people doing it
01:27:55.200right how do you think that will pan out because uh there's been bans before obviously of parties in
01:28:00.800germany but the afd is under the um have been under the pressure too right yeah we have uh we we need
01:28:09.600in the in the movement globally we need uh multitasking uh strategies uh we shouldn't put uh everything in
01:28:19.040only one basket in germany uh in germany it's very hard to ban a political party who has or if you have
01:28:27.920once reached being uh recognized in with the status of a political party so i think uh there uh it's an
01:28:37.840illusion to ban afd it's just a smear campaign but what they can do they have you have a public financing
01:28:45.120of parties and they have made a new uh new laws to deprive uh parties from that uh financing so they
01:28:53.200have then a distorted uh competition in the political uh realm they did it with my party the heimat formerly
01:29:00.800known as the mpd yep and that can happen to the afd they will they will uh deprive them uh from the
01:29:07.600finances but they i don't think uh it uh it it will be banned but you you have a different uh different
01:29:14.640situations uh in in in in the in in the countries i don't know how it is uh legally in australia
01:29:21.600uh but i i i i as as i feel it australia has a lot of publicity in the in in in the recent time
01:29:29.680uh and uh the the people are existent the people are existent and i think it's important and not just
01:29:38.320go uh go along with one strategy uh do one thing and uh nevertheless don't leave uh the other thing and
01:29:48.080uh only uh only uh to think the parliamentarian way will uh will change everything uh yeah that's
01:29:57.600that's also an an illusion but that uh that doesn't mean that you should uh should uh uh skip uh skip it
01:30:06.320completely uh you have to uh you have to organize uh different uh strategies different organizations
01:30:15.280different groups and and have a mix from uh nationwide centralistic working from regionalized and then
01:30:22.080local working from a political party from uh metapolitical organizations from cultural organizations
01:30:28.640from alternative media organizations and then it is important that you make a networking that uh that you
01:30:35.440have uh connecting connecting points uh you and uh that people get acquainted uh with each one which is
01:30:44.080and uh each another and uh that that will be the the long term uh the the long-term strategy i think
01:30:50.240you need people who do who go in the economy who earn money who can support the others who are
01:30:57.360completely burned like uh we are and we would never on the on the on the ordinary labor market uh
01:31:04.320given the chance to to earn a decent money so we always have from more more or less from with the
01:31:10.400hand in the mouth from day to day to hold our head over the water so if other people earn the money and
01:31:17.040can support uh activists on the front line you need you need everything that's our our counter diversity
01:31:24.560no exactly it's a multi-faceted uh multi um multi-front approach right this is happening on on every level at
01:31:34.400once i just thought it was kind of interesting that out of for example formations of active clubs or
01:31:41.280local communities or just guys getting together doing marches and protesting that they've managed
01:31:46.160to amass the amount of numbers that's needed to register as a political party so they're kind of
01:31:51.840doing it in reverse they're not doing like a political party that people join they do something
01:31:56.160completely different first and then they decide to mobilize politically and and and then from that
01:32:03.040you've now built a base which is i think maybe more lasting they just promise political things
01:32:09.040however i think the key component in that is not that i'm saying that that political party in australia
01:32:14.000that thomas sewell and some of these other guys are kind of seem to be launching now it's not that like
01:32:18.640oh they're gonna win the elections and they're gonna it's it's rather to show and if they do that's
01:32:23.440great or or maybe they get a couple of seats right that that's very doable but still it it shows
01:32:29.040uh to the rest of the australians in that case the desperation of the system that it's like the
01:32:35.600the convulsions of a of a spastic corpse that's like twinging just at the end as it's dying to try
01:32:42.560to you know preserve itself to shut down the very democratic process that they've so touted for so
01:32:47.680many decades of saying this is the way forward we have to you have to do it like this okay and then
01:32:51.920they do it like that and then it's like uh you're not allowed to do that right and it shows you the the
01:32:56.880illegitimacy of the system itself and how they're willing to crack down um because i think they're
01:33:02.640genuinely terrified of people actually organizing and again with numbers come power right you collectivize
01:33:10.400you you think as a unit you think as a group and and obviously the migrant populations in our
01:33:15.520countries they they know this they understand that they already have an inbound kind of ethnic allegiance
01:33:20.640obviously uh but they've managed to do massive advancements within our countries by setting up their
01:33:25.520own parties or interest groups they find ways of getting government grants or uh support which
01:33:32.000basically means from us right and we just have to basically do the same thing we have to be equally
01:33:37.760smart in how we approach this that doesn't mean it's as easy for us that means yes we have obstacles
01:33:42.160along the way we are being shut down we're held to a different standard than everyone else is and we
01:33:46.880know that at the same time that's also forcing us to be smarter to work harder to better ourselves to to
01:33:53.760push in a way that none of these other group has to push themselves because they're flowing downstream
01:33:58.560everything's working for them in their way we have to swim upstream we have to fight the current
01:34:04.160continuously and sasha let's be honest that that's partially what makes us stronger as well right yeah
01:34:10.080yes yes that that uphill battles make us strong and interestingly what you said uh three or four weeks ago
01:34:16.320at a uh at a networking conference i met uh the nephew of uh honecker's uh wife honecker the the the leader
01:34:25.120of the german democratic republic uh that broke down in 1989 and i i i had a discussion with him and he
01:34:34.400he said something very interesting he was uh he was uh initially also part of the regime and within the
01:34:40.880system and then he became a dissident and uh he had uh to face repression despite that uh close uh kinship
01:34:50.000and relationship and uh he made an interesting comparison uh between the the the former uh communist
01:34:58.400part of germany and and the situation uh in in nowadays germany he said the regime is done when they
01:35:06.720are absolutely incapable of doing anything right and uh due to this narrowed ideological uh dogma dogmatism
01:35:18.160he said he sees similar uh developments as he has seen in the end of the german democratic republic that
01:35:25.760was very interesting to hear out of the mouth of that particular person yeah no and they have the kind
01:35:32.400of the historical um breadth and and width to be able to see those trends as well re-emerging again
01:35:38.640right and it's kind of the same thing you saw a big march the other day in sweden um you know against
01:35:46.000migrant crimes and all these things right and al jazeera many other outlets were there and complaining
01:35:50.560and these are nazis and oh my gosh we haven't seen this since 2010 it was like how long do you how much
01:35:56.240do you think you can push us for before we the expectation seems to be that we should just roll
01:36:02.880over and and die or something and just give up and not actually fight back and the i understand these
01:36:08.080are you know trends they go up and down a little bit but with what's happening in the repression um and
01:36:14.000and the intentional um how do i put this the way that they have not only silenced people and censored us
01:36:23.520so that we cannot get this message out but kept the lid on in such a tight way way that it causes
01:36:30.240this pressure cooker type of environment at some point you have to have a release of that energy
01:36:35.040it's unsustainable or it will explode either you vent it or it will explode and at this point it's like
01:36:40.480these trends are coming back and they're they're not going to slow down the call for
01:36:45.120nationalism uh for for our people to fight back are are stronger now i think than they've ever been and
01:36:51.440they're also more legitimate and they're more obvious to everyone it might have been harder in
01:36:56.000the 80s or 90s to kind of try to convey these messages to people of like well what's the urgency
01:37:02.320really here sure we got some migrants it's not that bad or whatever now it's like pressure from every
01:37:08.000single point it's economically uh it's with the population itself the migrant um you know pressure
01:37:14.560it's from top down it's it's repressive governments and all these things um the only way the inevitable
01:37:21.040way forward here um is us collectivizing start working as a group and pushing back and taking
01:37:27.440back our destiny once again sasha that i see that as an inevitable trajectory i can tell you exactly
01:37:32.720how it's going to play out no one can obviously we don't know how long it will take um but they're
01:37:37.920not going to be able to keep the lid on this they're not going to be able to shut this down i think
01:37:42.560yeah the spectre is out of the bottle and they won't uh they won't bring it uh easily back and
01:37:48.720interestingly if you look at the the polls regarding the afd in the eastern part of germany the afd is
01:37:54.960not a ultra far right radicalist party it's a conservative or if you remember back what in the
01:38:02.880conversation uh with elon musk alice weidel said she described herself as a liberal uh conservative
01:38:10.240right but yeah but the media the media day by day up and down smear that party
01:38:18.560is a far right extremist and nevertheless in the eastern part of germany in the polls they are
01:38:25.920partly more than 40 percent what does it say that potentially those over 40 potents are ready to maybe
01:38:35.040even vote also for a really far right extremist party well yeah because it's kind of goes on what
01:38:43.360do you think the strategy behind that is i i'm again i can't make up my mind about it on one and
01:38:48.720i realize okay so if they keep saying that it's a far right extremist party then people will be
01:38:54.400attracted maybe to it for those reasons and they vote for it and then they realize oh i didn't get
01:38:59.600again what i voted for so that's a strategy but then at the same time that maybe the other flip side is
01:39:05.040you can't give you know also the other side whatever you want to call it an inch right if you let up just a
01:39:11.360little bit then we've won some ground and then if we've won some ground that means we can win
01:39:16.160a little bit more ground and a little bit more right and and they realize that that pushback will
01:39:20.080happen so again i'm not sure which strategy it is here and maybe it's not um homogenous maybe it's
01:39:27.120not centralized centralized opinion but i always also find it interesting that they're saying and claiming
01:39:33.120that these parties are something that they actually are not but there is a function within that isn't
01:39:37.760there but to avoid being misunderstood what the regime what the mainstream uh labels as far right
01:39:46.480ultra right and and as extremists uh is not in in uh actually extremist i think uh how i would i
01:39:55.520describe what we stand politically for is anything but extremist it's simply common sense the only thing
01:40:02.400what is which is really extremist is this uh diversity lunatic globalist extremism and not what
01:40:09.520we stand for well yeah well i mean the reason why they label us extreme is because we're actually
01:40:17.280reacting to extreme circumstances right that it's shifted so far in their direction that the very
01:40:23.440opposition to them is considered extreme right it's almost a reveal they're actually revealing themselves
01:40:29.360as they're doing it but you're right it's literally the most sensible position possible
01:40:35.440that we're taking and that is now called um yeah ultra ultra extremist or maybe even even like these are
01:40:43.600terrorists right that's almost the the language in some cases as well these are dangerous forces um that
01:40:49.520we can terrorist label and of course again countries have done that in the past in in england it was the
01:40:54.400national action they were shut down whatever and sure there might have been a little kind of spicy
01:40:59.120optically and whatnot but but still the point is you know if they haven't done anything illegal you
01:41:03.920know technically within the system you shouldn't be able to just terrorist label someone but they're
01:41:07.520happy to do it uh in order to prevent them from losing ground politically so yeah we're in a very
01:41:12.960interesting time um in terms of how this can go i i think i think victory is is is inevitable i think we
01:41:21.120i think our people will stand up i think we will be able to do this just in the nick of time
01:41:25.280um even even if i knew that it was impossible to win such i would still fight obviously it's just
01:41:32.720it's just in my nature i would i would never just lay down and roll over and give up or whatnot but i'm
01:41:37.760i'm i'm actually genuinely positively inclined here and i'm i'm very happy with what i've seen just over the
01:41:46.240last couple of years and how much the uh the rhetoric at least have changed and it's much more acceptable
01:41:53.280discourse again doesn't mean people are still banned and they're still shut down and they're
01:41:57.840still debanked these are still problems so it's not over but i'm saying it has certainly been
01:42:02.320normalized in a way that it wasn't just a few years ago and that trajectory i think is just going to
01:42:07.280continue i don't think that's going to be terminated or or shut down i think rather the danger here is
01:42:12.720maybe diversion of the energy maybe like a limited hangout or a astroturf movement that poses as
01:42:20.240nationalism and i think we're seeing that obviously with some of the parties and stuff out there too
01:42:23.520like a reform in the uk or or an afd uh in germany for that matter too that they're
01:42:28.240seen as these far right wing you know national socialists or something and i mean but they're
01:42:32.400actually liberal conservatives essentially so it's a little bit of a misnomer but uh we'll see through
01:42:39.840that too collectively i think over time it will it will we will figure out that okay it wasn't strong
01:42:45.280enough it wasn't they didn't do what was necessary okay and then new parties or new groups or new
01:42:51.440organizations or new institutions can form in the wake i guess uh of of a previous party that has been
01:42:59.280created and and didn't follow through or what they were supposed to do again i'm not saying that it's
01:43:03.760through the political process that this will be fixed but more more is going to come that's what i'm
01:43:07.920saying i think the the the trap in which uh the the system has brought itself is they uh they uh
01:43:20.720fostered the the the repression the repressive measures they exaggerated as much in comparison
01:43:28.240to 20 or 30 years ago there 30 years ago there also was some kind of repression but not how it is
01:43:34.800how the how uh intensively it works uh these days and uh the boomerang effect of that will be that
01:43:42.960they in the times of social media nearly for every post uh you're in danger getting a repressive measure
01:43:49.920but everyone everyone they kicked in the nuts with their repressive system and every single person
01:43:57.040they have lost they never will win back because they have hurt those persons
01:44:02.640yeah exactly so we've talked a bit about the repression and stuff i'm not sure if there's
01:44:07.520more you want to say about that um there's there's ways that they're doing that with lawfare obviously
01:44:13.840as we've talked about and trying to target certain individuals or go after them for social media posts
01:44:18.880obviously the very prominent in in the uk and partially you know their english-speaking worlds it's
01:44:23.600a bit easier but these things are certainly happening in in germany too but it's a little bit behind the
01:44:28.320language barrier if you will and uh we might not see it as as prominently as we do with some of
01:44:33.520the english or american cases far less in america they have they do have the first amendment which
01:44:38.400which protects some of them somewhat at least uh not from debanking obviously or or censorship from like
01:44:43.680platforms but uh at least in terms of what the state uh is is able to do the bar is pretty high there
01:44:49.120um at the same time as they do that and as as they imprison people for social media posts i i don't
01:44:59.280think they're doing themselves any favors i don't think this is somehow uh that's obviously not the
01:45:06.480way to deal with a situation like that if if the claims that the people who are being imprisoned are
01:45:12.640making are are true they're observable they're factual most other people maybe on some level
01:45:19.360agree with them or at least can understand why they're saying the things they're saying
01:45:24.320obviously the the process of trying to just silence people have i think historically never worked maybe
01:45:30.080for a little bit or for a little bit of a time um maybe some people get afraid or whatnot but all
01:45:35.680is all it takes is basically just more people speaking out and doing it and more people actually
01:45:40.320uh being bold enough uh to kind of take the hits i guess to to expose the illegitimacy of the of the
01:45:46.080of the system yeah in in course uh of destroying the careers of people there is nothing left to lose
01:45:55.920anymore anymore so obviously the it's easy for them uh to further go all in right so it's almost like
01:46:04.480they want they want to put us in a position where we do have nothing left to lose that's almost
01:46:08.720that seems to be the strategy oh well if that's what they want to do that's how it goes right
01:46:12.720um so obviously the heimat uh the the political party it's more on the political party too though
01:46:18.320that you're involved in it's almost a meta-political it's an organized it's a you know organization uh
01:46:24.160that's seeking to do other things beyond just to put the politics as well maybe you can talk about
01:46:27.760that a little bit it's it's a classical political party from its origin it was founded in the
01:46:34.160uh 1964 as a national democratic party of germany the npd but uh in 2023 we made an a kind of an
01:46:46.160overhaul and a and accompanied by a rebranding of the nomenklatura and uh among other aspects also due to
01:46:58.160the aspect that the the uh success of the afd has put that uh has put us regarding the parliamentary
01:47:06.960uh strategy uh on the sidelines and so uh we had to find uh our our our niche where we could uh be
01:47:16.720productive and so the the new uh strategy is uh to to focus uh not uh not exclusively uh on elections
01:47:28.000and one election uh after the other and uh regarding the elections to focus more on local and regional
01:47:35.120elections and uh moreover to uh to work on other fields like alternative uh medias and community
01:47:44.320building and in course of that we are reshuffling a little bit uh the assets we have some uh for
01:47:51.680example we have some uh real estate and but mostly it is in huge cities and uh we will reshuffle that a
01:48:00.400little bit and uh to uh to form new and you form new infrastructures in in in regions and environments
01:48:08.320where we can then also uh preoccupy ourselves with some other uh works than only the typical political
01:48:18.240party uh so we will we are the the anti-party party against the establishment and try uh we we don't uh
01:48:28.880we don't end uh doing elections but not every election and but we uh complement uh our our political
01:48:37.040work also with some to integrate some aspects as the organizations we have uh at the beginning uh
01:48:44.480spoken uh we are we are closely observing what uh that feels very return to the land woodland and then
01:48:51.600and other organizations do what their strategies are what experiences they make uh compare our legal
01:48:59.280situation to the situations they have there to look what can we uh what have we to refine to our
01:49:06.080particular situation in our country and uh we want to integrate some of those aspects also in our
01:49:13.120work uh with the aim being more than just a political party yeah yeah i think you have to
01:49:21.120in uh in this day and age that's why i found it interesting that you're seeing guys organizing in ways
01:49:27.680which is very uh well at least uh from the outside at first unorthodox i guess if that's the right term
01:49:34.640for it but like in a different way in a you know in a much more it's more about the community
01:49:38.480building sense of it uh of course some of the groups and organizations are are national but they're
01:49:44.160local and regional chapters for example but as they continue to grow all of a sudden you realize
01:49:49.520you're in a position we have a lot of manpower right and again with numbers you have collective
01:49:54.960power you have a social equity if you don't have the actual equity or the resources necessary but with
01:50:01.840that you have now you have manpower you have hands that can help you on projects you can you can do
01:50:09.680things and build things you can create things right and you can do it together which is which helps to
01:50:14.560form the community but it builds bonds and and and trust and uh a positive sense on dependency on each
01:50:21.840other and with those achievements you build self-esteem you can do go on and do more from there so
01:50:26.720i'm very encouraged in fact with what i'm seeing you have the second sons in canada very effective
01:50:31.920you know uh fairly recent organization and they're out doing re-migration now demos and stuff like that
01:50:38.320to marches and stuff and that's catching you know the media attention and everyone's like you know no one
01:50:43.840no one would bat an eye if someone says re-migration now on x for the most part right but it it is different
01:50:49.760when you take a banner and you go outside and you're hanging off of a bridge or something an overpass
01:50:54.320all of a sudden massive media attention and now that's the national dialogue uh you know over
01:50:59.520the last few days in in canada for example uh and so you drive you drive the discourse in that kind
01:51:04.960of way with fairly fairly simple means frankly uh and and not that many guys you can actually do
01:51:12.000very effective media campaigns to drive these issues and keep certain topics on the forefront such
01:51:17.760as re-migration within the media environment it exposes more people to them that i guess still
01:51:22.480watches mainstream news or whatnot but you'll find yourself in a position where a lot of people then
01:51:27.120end up agreeing with you right and like uh yeah actually i'm on those guys sides everyone know that
01:51:31.840the media is rotten the political system is rotten it's a bunch of low-life self-serving scum at the
01:51:40.240top of these you know political parties for the most part and everyone kind of instinctually i think know
01:51:45.840that to a certain extent they're like sick and fed up with the system they know that everything is wrong so
01:51:50.400when a bad guy shows up and points out the flaws in the system i think yeah there's a lot more
01:51:55.520support there than people would would know right much more people then uh publicly show their sentiment
01:52:04.240i think uh in the meanwhile uh at least subconsciously feel uh that something's going in the wrong direction
01:52:12.400yeah and that's why we will where we will uh grow in the future exactly indeed uh all right
01:52:20.720sasha what else should we uh cover here before we uh start wrapping up here uh obviously i want you to
01:52:25.840plug your your stuff where people can find you and all that stuff too and then um book is is basically on its
01:52:32.480way the english english version of the book uh give us the title again and where you where well do you have any uh prospective uh
01:52:40.400publishers and if you if you don't will you sell it yourself or how how will you distribute the book
01:52:45.360do you do you know yet i'm the i'm for the it's my third book but for the first time i did it as a
01:52:51.680self-publisher so to say and uh so uh i have um i'm all i'm still looking for potential publishers in the
01:53:02.640different countries every every uh publisher every book company of uh of of our political movement who
01:53:10.720has in his assortment english speaking uh english speaking literature uh i'd be interested if if
01:53:17.920someone reaches out to me or give or or someone gives me a a hint uh to which i could get in in touch
01:53:24.880uh of course i i would be interested uh to to sell it uh in a to a broad spectrum and in as many uh
01:53:33.280countries uh as possible but uh yes i'm uh i'm i'm i'm doing i'm doing the first steps uh finding and
01:53:41.680connecting with with publishers who could publishers who could potentially be interested uh to take it in
01:53:48.080in this in assortment or other uh groups organizations who sell some uh products uh i'm uh open uh to
01:53:56.880get into contact uh how we can uh cooperate here of course uh organize it uh that it will be a win-win
01:54:04.880situation for everyone of course very good okay so that's a call to some of the publishers out there
01:54:09.600that might be uh listening we know a few i think i sent you a couple of i think i sent you a couple of
01:54:14.000links are they much some that might be interested in approaching um okay so the book is culture
01:54:18.880aesthetics identity blossoms of the oxidants uh and it's set to come out here shortly in english
01:54:24.320of course it's already out in uh german you get a couple of telegram channels where people can find
01:54:28.560you you have the mostly english language one which is the ross muller's dissident channel on telegram
01:54:35.440that channel is fully in english fully in english and then you do have a german one as well simply
01:54:39.600your name such a ross muller um which i think is twm slash ross muller uh obviously on x you're on x
01:54:46.320as well people can follow you there uh sub stack how do you like sub stack is that uh or is there
01:54:51.360people on sub stack i haven't gotten on there too much yet i'm late i didn't uh i didn't uh find a time
01:54:58.480yet uh to use it as it should be used but i think it's potentially a very interesting uh platform uh
01:55:06.000unfortunately i didn't find uh up to now the time to regularly write the the longer uh uh more in
01:55:13.360volume essays uh and where where i delve a little bit deeper in some topics i have a few articles on
01:55:19.840there i hope in the future i will uh organize my daily work so that i can uh can work there more and
01:55:27.840that is also completely in english i'm also in ghetto that's german and english and then what's mostly
01:55:34.800in english is also on gap okay very good all right awesome so we got uh getter here's the link for
01:55:40.640that and then you got gab uh as well i saw that redesigned gab here just the other day by the way
01:55:46.000yeah here a few days ago there is sand yeah you like it i was gonna yeah i kind of like the green
01:55:51.200stuff they had before the green bar i miss it already all right anyway very good thank you sasha
01:55:56.960for coming on appreciate your work appreciate all the good things you're doing for not only the german
01:56:01.600people but for uh all of the european people out there thank you so much for your time it's always
01:56:05.680a blast having you on and thank you so much for doing what you're doing thank you thank you for
01:56:09.280inviting me it's always always a pleasure you're the gold standard in uh right-wing alternative broadcasting
01:56:16.240thank you you're so good and best greetings also to lana and of course also to the
01:56:21.760the three little ones yes exactly thank you appreciate it the young viking group yes exactly the young
01:56:27.440varangians and the little uh the little valkyrian princess yeah she's she's uh high energy but
01:56:32.960she's doing very well thank you sasha appreciate your time we'll talk soon okay awesome all right
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