The Struggle For Australia - Thomas Sewell
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1 hour and 11 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we talk to a man who has been a part of the anti-racist, anti-colonialist and anti-racism movement in Australia for over 20 years. He is a former Australian soldier who served with the Australian Defence Force and the Australian National Party, and has been involved in protests and street protests since the early 2000s.
Transcript
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army when i was about 20 uh lee rigby a drummer lee rigby a british uh recruiter got his head
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chopped off in the street by muslims and that was definitely a wake-up call for me uh just because
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of how the army handled it so i was in the army and we were training at the time to go over to
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afghanistan to uh to kill the taliban and uh we were told that there was intelligence that there
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was going to be terrorist attacks here in in australia similar to lee rigby and that in the
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event that one of these took place we were to hide under the the tables in the lunchroom and call
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the northern territory police oh my gosh and that that that was like the point of no return for me
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that that radicalized me more than anything um yeah i just i can still remember that moment like
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it was yesterday i remember too when i said those 29 yeah i think it was not 2013 20 oh was that oh
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it was that late okay yeah there you go yeah i mean it was a slew of things at that time and then you
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kind of had what they later deemed a migrant crisis you know in the u in the eu obviously into europe
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uh but it was a string of events at that point which i think really shook a lot of people
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yeah it was just crazy to me that we were being trained to go kill these people overseas but then
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we weren't allowed to kill them in our own country right and i thought that was just that just broke
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my brain that's when i realized that this is not a logical situation like we're um there is a
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seditious enemy inside the system and that's when i didn't want to be in the army anymore that's
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when i didn't want to be in the system anymore uh and i decided to start going down a path and uh
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i read my conf again uh because i'd read it when i was 18 but i didn't i didn't fully take it in
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um i read my conf again and uh i watched uh the greatest story never told and i started engaging
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in politics shortly after that i met up with blair cottrell at a street protest in uh i think early
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very early 2015 um and i started attending nationalist meetings in real life and street
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protests and yeah uh it was just it's all downstream from there or upstream however you want to look at
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it so my conf at 18 now that's not most people's 18 year olds reading material um maybe it should be
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but that's a different thing tell us how you how you ended up there were you just interested in the
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ideas or were you kind of uh uh yeah i was always fascinated yeah i was always fascinated with
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history um first i came to love history then i became a nationalist and uh i studied all the the
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you know the ancient greeks and the romans uh throughout early high school and i loved studying
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world war ii we did about six months of world war i and world war ii in high school and uh i took a deep
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dive there and studied everything that i they could find in the library um and i was just very passionate
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about world war ii history uh even before i knew the truth uh i i never really studied the holocaust
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much because you know it was kind of this this uh the school treated like it was a given fact and never
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really gave any details um other than oh here's some shoes and here's some hair and cyclone b um so that
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was really easy to debunk in my my own head uh which i became aware that the the holocaust was a lie
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uh around the time that lee rigby had his head chopped off so i was going on 4chan i was on poll and
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i started watching documentaries on youtube by david irving uh frederick tobin uh ernst zandel
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um and these men are just so intelligent and so well read and they just they just smash it out of the
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water in 20 minutes so uh it was over after that point i didn't believe in the jewish lie anymore
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um but i was always fascinated by by hitler and national socialism before i even knew
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uh that they were um not what the war propaganda made them out to be so it was very easy to jump
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across and realize that uh you know we need to defend uh like white nations we need to have a
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a sense of uh honor and justice in our government in our statecraft um and that we're being parasited by
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usurious and evil um system and that it's primarily uh the the responsibility uh well it's primarily the
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fault of the jews and the traders the white traders uh that have uh allowed for our decline
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so military push our decline actually right yeah exactly so you said yeah you said the military was
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there any i'm not sure how it was at that point or you know what years were in there but um and if
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you were vocal maybe you were not vocal but was there any issues at that point i mean today they
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try to vet for these things they're very careful and cautious and they you know they want to have all
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the right people which is the wrong people in there was that the case then or well i almost
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couldn't get into the military because i had a civilian psychologist asked me a bunch of feminist
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questions and i was 17 at the time that i was applying and she kept asking me in circles about
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how do i feel it wasn't a psychological interview it was a political interview right um she kept asking
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me i'm 17 i'm i think i'm in year 11 or year 12 at school and i was doing my interviews to join the
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infantry and she kept asking me uh what what do i think about women in the army what do i think about
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women in combat roles and i just said to her like i'm not gonna have to deal with this i'm joining
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the infantry women aren't allowed in the infantry she kept asking me hypotheticals about you know
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what if women were in the infantry how would you feel about that and i just i kind of did that um
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you know what how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast like i kind of but i did have breakfast
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i just played i kind of played dumb and i was like well i i don't know i'd have to wait and see
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and i didn't give her the exact answers that uh she was looking for so that actually caused me issues
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um and it had to get overruled by an actual infantry soldier that was a sergeant um in the the
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recruiting building that was like uh nah we're not i'm not paying attention to this i'm just gonna
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i'm gonna tick you through um because yeah they tried to stop me from joining the army because i
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didn't give the correct answer about how do i feel about women uh dying on the front line um because
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you meant to say yes of course absolutely i'd love to see definitely die on the front line yes lying on
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the front line next to me uh comrade uh but uh yeah that was interesting but then they had me on
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a waiting list for 18 months and i thought that that was just crazy that it was taking so long to
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join um and it was because they wanted to fill the spots with with women and brown people and gay people
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um and i actually ran into a warrant officer who was in a fifth battalion who was one of my friend's
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fathers and i actually end up joining fifth battalion when i finished my combat training
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at my uh infantry training and uh i said to him oh i'm on a waiting list and he goes there's no such
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thing as a waiting list and i said yeah there is i'm on a waiting like they said it's it's going to
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take about a year and he goes we are two companies down in fifth battalion we only have uh charlie and
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and uh bravo we have no delta we have no alpha we're 300 men down we are starved for recruits we need
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men right now um this is bullshit this is nonsense and i'm like i'm not lying to you this is what
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defense force recruiting have told me and then he was like you called them up and you tell them
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what i'm what i've said so i called them up and i said to them i have just met warren officer i can't
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remember his last name watkins or something like that and he has told me that you know they're two
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companies down at fifth battalion they're starved for recruits that not enough guys are coming
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through the school of infantry what's going on and i think i had my enlistment date within two
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weeks of that phone call so okay every step of the way seditious traitors yeah stabbing us in the
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bank weaken us yeah exactly yeah every step what if we had a war coming up next year and we got
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defense force recruiting a bunch of civilian communists um stopping uh you know men i mean
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obviously now the world is a different place now and and 12 years on from or 15 years on almost from
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that moment um you know obviously my feelings are very different so i don't want the chat to get
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too upset about what i'm saying oh i fight and die for zog but you got to understand as an 18 year
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old and you're patriotic and you love your country you don't understand this stuff you don't understand
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zog you don't understand that there's communists everywhere and that they're trying to destroy your
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nation and undermine it from within so the whole system's evil the whole system's got to go uh yeah
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the camps are going to be massive when we take power i mean the amount of people that we're going to
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have to put in a camp and then assess whether they undermine the nation i mean the magistrate's
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court is the line is going to be going out the door um as to the sedition charges it is insane
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speed trials don't know but do so perhaps do you do you believe men today young men should join the
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military and if they do indeed because no okay the training is still can you get a lot from it
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is it good to have that training sure uh the most important thing is hardship that's the that's the
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best lesson that i learned in the army was hardship and grit and the second most important lesson was
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speed and aggression and unlocking that animal inside you uh that those those two things are probably still
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present within the army and you can still probably get that out of being in the army but i think that you
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can get that out of going camping all the time uh with bare bones material like not not galamping
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you know not being glamorous with your camping just camping out of a backpack um spending lots of time
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outdoors in nature um doing mma or or playing playing lots of sport you know even footy um you know i know a
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lot of people are anti-footy but as long as you're playing it and not just sitting on the couch getting fat
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watching it um but yeah playing footy doing martial arts doing lots of running lifting weights um that
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in conjunction with uh with yeah a physically laborious job for example even an it job or like
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a white collar job as long as you're doing plenty on the side plenty to toughen your mind and toughen
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your body and uh as it was explained to us you can learn how to how to shoot a it was called slot i can't
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excuse my australian but you can learn how to slot a cunt at 300 meters uh in two weeks so i wouldn't
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i wouldn't join the army for the military so-called experience um you can be disciplined if you if you
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believe in it yeah yeah i need structure order and you know obviously there's many groups now
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organizations such as yours and so many others popping up basically trying to recreate some of
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that right initiate men once again and younger men specifically you know into their mindset absolutely
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you know yeah yeah well that's what we're trying to do is create a full package where uh you know we
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do lots of camping outdoors if you join an active club um you kind of get the best of all all worlds
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in the sense that you're not just joining a sporting team or an mma team uh mma gym you know you're getting
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this full package where you go camping you know you do running you lift weights you learn how to box
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and then you do political activism and that's that speed and aggression you you learn that grit you learn
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that determination and and uh often you come up against obstacles and you have to overcome those
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obstacles and those are more valuable skills than you know death by powerpoint and diversity inclusion
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training while you're in the defense force yeah no that's true they're they're gay find that pretty
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pretty fast uh but what was the i mean demographically obviously at that point have you since that time have
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you seen things radically drastically change in australia since that time
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it's it's uh yeah it's i can't use the word incredible because it's despicable it's despicable uh
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i i can't tell you what the statistics say because they lie but i do they even keep them or or take
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them not accurately right yeah no uh i would say that melbourne is below 50 white like the city that
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i live in i that that would be a fair assessment uh and that's all really happened in the last five
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years like it has been a landslide yeah what's the primary groups are coming in would you say
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at the moment the biggest group coming in is indians which is causing a lot of a lot of issues uh but
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there's still a lot of chinese and southeast asians um and in the in the more well we're all working
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class now everyone's poor but in the western suburbs which used to be regarded as the working
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class suburbs uh the the demographics are more arab and african yeah in the east yeah well actually
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they get they get um they get a lot of indians in the west as well indians are everywhere yeah but
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then in the east we mostly get asians and indians but in the west they get africans um arabs and
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indians and some islanders as well they get a little bit of pacific islanders yeah i was surprised
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how many muslims there were is that what is that syria right some syria some iraq where where do you
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i'm not sure you keep tallying on those i don't even care to be honest but is the excuse again oh it's
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war we're gonna help them you know or is it just opportunity they don't even make
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they don't even make excuses anymore yeah right they just pay they pay for them to come here they're
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just paying for them to come here we are paying for them to come here yeah yeah they're getting
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grants they're getting grants to bring their families they're getting they're all getting
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brand new cars um no interest loans like it's it's a scam it's one giant immigration scam to replace
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widey and obviously yeah everyone knows this everyone knows this it's a yeah there's almost no point
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talking about it yeah i know some people need it repeated for the four million they do yep we're at
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demographic war absolutely yep you need to do something about it threat um i wonder it's a
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different kind of thing but if you want to comment on it the the covid you know the lockdowns restrictions
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and stuff like that it was some of the more uh extreme ones in australia as you can't remember how
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many how much clips and things i saw from that do you think that contributed in some part to kind
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of help also radicalize some people against the state against the system um but maybe even towards
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nationalism eventually did it have any fallout do you think absolutely well i predicted i wrote a an
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essay while i was in prison during the covid lockdowns because they they decided to do an
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entrapment operation and and lock up and non-associate as many politically not just myself but many many
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um political agitators um uh during the covid lockdowns to ensure we couldn't mobilize people
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against the government and and point people in the correct direction as to who was at fault uh
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during that period uh they were very very worried about uh this covid anti-covid agenda um becoming a
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genuine political movement and they did a lot to uh they did a lot to obliterate it and and isolate it
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into all these different um almost state approved versions of anti-covid like you had to do a welcome
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to country or you had to be pro-gay or you know the system works in these manners where it where it
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infiltrates and it sends its little agents in and um some of these people were getting paid by you know
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jewish lobbies to do this um or jewish media groups um to hijack the covid movement to never point
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the finger at you know the jews and international finance that were behind this um and the new world
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order so to speak or if they did have an understanding of this um this zog order it was
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always from this crazy conspirator what they call cooker perspective um now since that movement has
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completely collapsed in australia most people that we have recruited uh have come to their awareness
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of uh national socialism adolf hitler one world government uh you know what's happening uh to our
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society the demographic replacement they've come to that understanding uh and been awakened since
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covid or during covid so it definitely has done a lot uh to help uh wake up australians to to an
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existential threat to their existence um but also since covid the system has used uh covid as uh you know
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they're distracting everyone with these health this health uh situation and what they did was they
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absolutely flooded uh the culture with um you know welcome to countries with diversity like they
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ramped up all that tenfold like i'd never even heard one in person until after covid um and when i
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talked to corporate people they said that they had never heard one until they started doing them when
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they weren't working at work anymore and so they used to go to work five days a week um and now they're
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at home because it's lockdowns and they're getting uh like they're getting paid more than they've ever
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been paid before they're getting a pay increase you know some guys were getting 20 30 uh extra pay
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to work from home which was like you're only doing like 30 of the work you'd normally do or you know
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you don't have to drive and be in traffic and then uh the only downside the only downside uh is that
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every zoom meeting you start they do a oh we'd like to uh thank the traditional owners something
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something we're in doodery shit so it's almost so as things you get a kind of a tumultuous upheaval
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and a strange uh rearrangement of most you know life as you're accustomed to they shoehorn
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an anti-white uh you know bullshit uh you know new thing into it because yeah well that too exactly
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but then people will be more susceptible that because it's it's so it's twofold in a way right it's
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in a way it's weirdly it's kind of good that they're pushing so hard because it does push on
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people over the edge but at the same time the other part that does not that do not have that
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fighting spirit in them will be probably much more used to be compliant no matter what it is whether
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it's health or you know those kinds of bullshit little rituals there yeah yeah absolutely interesting
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okay so a good way of putting the shoehorn it's a good way of putting it yeah that's usually what
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they're cultural a cultural revolution yeah like the the next wave because they do it in waves
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and so now and their rejection from it and i talked to some young guys as well so i talked to some
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corporate people and i talked to some young guys that were school during it and they said to me
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wait didn't you guys sing the national anthem in aboriginal at school and i was like what the fuck are
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you talking and they're like oh did you guys do welcome to countries at school and i was like no
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they're like oh i thought they always did welcome to countries at school and i was like not when i was in
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school that you know and i'm only 10 years older than some of these young guys so yeah massive shift
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a massive shift and it's that common communist thing like you you know i think it was stalin that
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said it you know if you capture the youth so they they changed culture uh yeah so that's i don't think
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that's my um is that my telegram i got tom's all uncensored uh oh is that the one you prefer to
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promote uncensored yeah yeah yeah it's a it's a new one i've put up um gotcha we'll show the screen
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here in a moment my old one yeah try and find the the other one was it underscore between no no
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there's not a score it's just tom saw uncensored all right we'll pull it up here in a moment uh as i do
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that let me ask you um maybe i think many people might have seen you kind of for the first time in
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the limelight so to speak i guess after that uh channel nine security guard chimp out and
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put you on the map a little bit i know you spoke to um lon about that last time as well but but you
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may i forget because i forget what year that was now was that one of the first times you were kind of
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had legal challenges or was it before that that that happened that was that was the first criminal
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charge ever put against me yeah that was 2021 and that was the first time i ever uh was arrested
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uh and had a criminal charge put against me uh i would say that's probably the most prominent i
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ever was uh the most prominent uh the first most prominent point um in terms of the australian media
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but i had i've been active since 2015 uh i did a few interviews i was on television as early as 2015
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uh being interviewed by channel 7 and channel 10 so i had a very minor profile up until that point
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yeah um yeah i want to play why don't i play that one that was really about the demographics but this
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is one of the first clips i saw from you and i think this one was uploaded to uh to tiktok let's
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check this one out it's a really good one and when our industry gets packed up and shipped overseas
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they do another genius economic trick you see they bring in hundreds of thousands of people now
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millions a year into this country and the rest of the western world and they do this and they don't
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care where they come from they don't care where they're compatible all this is irrelevant they
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don't care that you're upset about it they don't care that they're not integrating they buy fridges
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they buy tvs they borrow money for homes and so the banks make more money and their stocks go up
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and harvey norman makes more money and his stocks go up and anyone that builds shit overseas for cheap
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plastic crap and sends it here to this country sells more and makes more money and the whole system
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reinforces itself and now we're more dependent on the system and the politicians will tell you that
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they're in charge and they have our interests in heart and they'll keep the whole system afloat
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and your house that's 1.2 million dollars that's actually only worth 500 000 will be worth 1.3 by
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next year as long as we keep migrating people in the country and we keep devaluing our dollar and we
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keep sending our industry overseas there you go see a simple tiktok like that i'm not sure if you guys
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made that or not but it was great you know do you remember what that was that was 2019 oh there you
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go okay there you go awesome yeah no that's that's good good stuff years ago now there you go that was
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that was 2019 so that was during a phase where we stopped doing the street the anti-islam street
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protests but it was before we set up the nsn and the eam and what's now known as white australia which
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is the culmination of those two forces yeah yeah so that was when we're in this like middle phase where we
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set up like a gentleman's club uh called lad society and it was like a men's club a nationalist
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men's club where there wasn't much physical training going on but we try to encourage people to use the
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gym but it was mostly just we would have once once a month we would put on like a little mini seminar
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we would do speeches and we would have a few beers uh and then the other fridays we would we maybe
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would just have a few beers and have like a fight night or um you know lift weights or something so
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it was like a little men's club and it came along quite well um it just had some some drawbacks and
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uh we we changed the model yeah that's what you do and that's that was from one of those meetings
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yeah you try you try different things and you see what sticks and what works so uh if you want to
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share some of that so tell us about your like organizational structure is like is everything on
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paper do you do you apply for permits to do you know march or rally or you know flash mob whatever
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you want to call it uh so white australia is uh ea eam and nsn are regarded as unincorporated
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associations so they are not uh they're not registered businesses or registered organizations
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with the government they're called unincorporated uh so they exist in the sense of that we say they
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exist um there's no paperwork for them there's no one you can really sue there's no one um uh liable
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uh it's just it's it's a it's a meta-political entity uh whereas white australia is being
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registered as uh well i'd have to talk to the accountant your lawyer but there's a few different
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methods i won't say the exact method that it is registered but it's in the process of being
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registered as a as a physical uh a legal entity um and that is the stepping stone also not stepping
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stone that is the the governing body when we also create a political party we will create
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so in australia you need to have 1500 supporters we're not there yet and we only launched the idea
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about two months ago but in australia you need 1500 registered supporters to start a political party so
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eventually white australia will have an activism arm which is nsn it will have an active club arm which
00:30:51.820
is the eam it will have a political party arm which will be the white australia party or something
00:30:56.480
along those lines uh it will have a legal and a white advocacy advocacy arm uh it will have
00:31:05.000
an education arm it will have maybe a workers union a student union uh so we're building all
00:31:10.740
these uh building all these uh sub organizations uh to perform the the jobs that need to be done
00:31:17.900
uh to to save our people yeah and white australia is like the overall uh concept it's it's the concept
00:31:24.680
of building a new state yeah so that's why i called it that uh i i figured we've got all these little
00:31:30.860
movements and groups and you know they have these kind of names like movement or network or um you
00:31:36.740
know but i figured what we're really trying to build is a new country a new nation a new state so i
00:31:42.760
figured we would call that white australia uh and then anything under that is like a government
00:31:47.880
department basically it's like a department of the overall brand a ministry separately yeah um yeah so
00:31:56.040
what okay so tell me what that would well what you think i guess in some sense what that might be
00:32:00.420
like we all have heard and we've covered in the past on on this show uh obviously about some of the
00:32:04.620
hate speech laws coming in whatever again you know would you expect and i know already that lawfare wise
00:32:09.460
you guys are struggling there's a lot of people in there that they're going after and this and that
00:32:13.500
um considering that you're you know openly national socialist they try to ban it they've banned the
00:32:18.340
the roman salute right the 45 degree angle uh what do you what are you expecting um just more and more
00:32:24.940
pressure to come or how do you see this play out here uh short term they have done a quasi ban on
00:32:34.780
national socialism in australia by banning gestures and symbols associated with national socialism
00:32:42.160
and also by using uh criminal laws that aren't applied to political activities to impede on political
00:32:51.440
communication so these things together the symbolic bans and the use the misuse of criminal charges
00:32:59.940
against political activities these two things together are actually a breach of the australian
00:33:05.760
constitution so we have a lot of case law in this country our constitution like most countries is a
00:33:11.480
growing and evolving document uh it can be impacted in two ways one by the legislator being the
00:33:17.700
parliament or it can be changed through the high court being the most senior court in the land and
00:33:25.180
what we have at the moment in australia is a clash a legal clash between the implied right to political
00:33:33.620
communication which is guaranteed by the australian constitution at a commonwealth level and these
00:33:40.020
state and federal laws passed by jewish lobbies uh and parliamentarians um which impede our our rights and then we
00:33:47.340
also have a a police force a state police force um not anyone in particular victoria uh queensland new
00:33:55.400
south wales south australia particularly uh that are uh political activists trying to um circumvent the
00:34:03.920
constitution by applying criminal charges to political activities so uh we're in limbo at the moment because
00:34:11.460
we're not actually banned we're not a banned organization national socialism is not a banned idea
00:34:16.000
uh it's a legal idea we're a legal organization but us existing is uh is a criminal offense so you
00:34:23.300
can't have it both ways so there has to be a judgment at a high court to either confirm that we are illegal
00:34:30.720
or say well actually no they're not illegal and that's the the major legal battle that we have every
00:34:36.660
other legal battle is a distraction to stop us from uh getting a high court judgment but in the same
00:34:43.100
process they are vehicles that we can appeal and get to the high court and that's the process we're
00:34:49.560
doing at the moment we have we have been struggling but life is an eternal struggle uh we've been
00:34:54.800
struggling positively and we have three legal teams on this at the moment uh and uh only one of them is
00:35:02.920
charging us um the other two probably just need a bottle of scotch um maybe a nice one so only single
00:35:10.120
only single month uh yeah so i'm sure you're discussing this internally and you have your own
00:35:17.220
thoughts obviously about these kinds of things but uh that fine line of right kind of going well
00:35:22.460
going right up against the line but then you know if laws change or or you all right let's now that
00:35:28.860
symbol is banned let's not do that you know kind of thing and and because still right that's what it's
00:35:33.200
about though it's about making you know the news tighter and tighter and tighter and restricting what
00:35:38.100
you can or can't say or show or what symbol you can use or whatever at some point there's a there's a
00:35:43.920
i'd say but there's kind of like a function to keep keep to keep it there right keep the debate on
00:35:49.740
something which kind of crosses the line almost or at least at the very least kind of go right up
00:35:54.200
against it so that the room continues to be there otherwise it will just continue to shrink right it's
00:35:58.640
kind of a necessary uh you know struggles to use that word that you have to take right how do you view
00:36:03.840
that i remember reading evola for the first time in 2018 and i loved this idea of riding the tiger
00:36:15.060
and uh you know surfing the kali yuga as some people will say and uh i was inspired by those books to
00:36:24.020
become a radical to be a real world activist and it frustrates me how many kind of nerds there are on
00:36:31.420
the internet like twitter that read these books and they call themselves evolian but then they're
00:36:36.120
not actually riding the tiger they're not actually having a dance uh you know with the kali yuga they're
00:36:42.040
not actually pushing the system they're not pushing the buttons they're not riding right on the edge of
00:36:46.980
the wave um and making it look easy so uh yeah they've got different everyone's got different
00:36:53.900
interpretations of of these books i guess but i was definitely inspired by that that concept that radical
00:37:00.000
concept so uh yeah we abide by the law as much as possible um but that's but something's got to
00:37:07.180
give right um and we we we're at a point now where we are challenging our own existence we are saying
00:37:16.020
okay we challenge you ban us let's go to the high court because you're already de facto banning us
00:37:21.640
you're already de facto locking us up in prison for existing um on bullshit charges absolute bogus charges
00:37:29.240
and okay let's go all the way and uh stephen wells uh just on on uh i think it was thursday or friday
00:37:38.060
was just released yeah i saw that exactly from prison yep uh after four months in solitary confinement
00:37:43.740
and uh his charges were dropped um and his charges were uh i believe uh loitering or wearing an article
00:37:52.000
of disguise so hat and sunglasses is now illegal if you're a nationalist um but the police arresting us
00:37:56.400
we're wearing hats and sunglasses i might add uh and uh loitering means standing around without a
00:38:01.640
reason which is untrue he had a reason um he was doing a political demonstration uh and then he was
00:38:07.080
also charged with wearing a nazi symbol and i've been charged with these things as well so by the way
00:38:11.380
i don't have court till the 29th so in 10 days i have court for the exact things that um that stephen
00:38:17.500
wells uh also had been charged with and his have been dropped a whole bunch of basically everyone's
00:38:22.300
charges being dropped except i think myself joel and i think two others um so out of the out of
00:38:29.260
the seven it was originally 16 and then joel got charged so out of the 17 guys um yeah i think
00:38:35.160
there's only four left uh everything's been dropped how many were there total at one point 19 you said
00:38:41.480
or something how many were there no i think it was 17 guys 16 were locked i said yeah 17 guys were
00:38:47.160
locked up that day and then there was about another 20 guys that were um given move on orders
00:38:54.120
uh so they couldn't make it to the rally and then there was about 14 or 15 guys from south australia
00:39:01.920
that were raided two weeks before the rally and put on non-association so that they couldn't attend
00:39:06.960
the rally so the police so when you see about you know uh 45 50 guys marching there the police did a
00:39:14.660
pretty good job at stopping about 50 people from coming to the to the rally or arresting them in
00:39:19.200
the process of getting to the rally so and steven was locked up the longest is that correct yeah so
00:39:25.340
all of all of us did uh three i think i did three and a half days everyone else did about three days
00:39:30.360
um and steven did uh 111 days geez for what right i mean this one so it's one of these things it
00:39:38.580
doesn't matter what you do they will they will if there is nothing there legally they will find
00:39:42.660
something or invent something or come up with something so we know that that's like the
00:39:45.900
structure of what they do but let's assume you'd had okay you do a permit for this that would just
00:39:50.840
deny that is that have you tried that in the past right yeah so in in new south wales um uh they they
00:39:57.980
apply for permits uh and they mostly get ignored or denied so right okay but we just keep applying
00:40:03.700
because we're building a case against the police so we just keep applying
00:40:06.680
um yeah yeah i mean what are you gonna be exactly you gotta keep you gotta keep trying
00:40:11.780
otherwise everything was shut down um now of course 90 of the time we just do spot rallies
00:40:17.880
right spot rallies exactly and in victoria you don't need a permit to do a rally uh in new south wales
00:40:23.260
you're meant to get a permit for like any sort of major demonstration um but in victoria we have
00:40:29.100
i think better laws for protesting you don't need a permit yeah and nor should you nor should you
00:40:34.180
right right yeah exactly um so obviously australia the soviet union not yet they're trying though
00:40:40.840
uh australia day was obviously one of the recent ones kind of you you guys did together with the um
00:40:45.360
the the boo cost i guess uh at the anzac day and that was the that was what again when they
00:40:51.360
shoehorned the uh welcome to country and you can briefly explain that for people or audience that
00:40:56.440
might not know what that is or what they did but this was like a live broadcast anzac is obviously
00:41:00.980
the combined australian new zealand forces during um i think it's both the world's world wars right
00:41:06.400
primarily the first it's primarily the first world okay yeah um but but also they they do
00:41:11.540
there is a remembrance for the others as well an acknowledgement of the other wars as well
00:41:16.080
but it was primarily a first world war yeah and then they do that welcome to country tell us about
00:41:22.460
yeah so anzac day uh is uh april 25th uh every year uh we do a dawn service so about 5 30 5 45 in the
00:41:33.600
morning uh any australian that has a patriotic spirit goes down to their local or they go to the
00:41:38.920
one in the city like in the cbd um there's a beautiful shrine uh one of those beautiful buildings
00:41:44.420
probably the most beautiful building in australia is in melbourne and there's a beautiful one in canberra
00:41:48.720
as well i mean they're all beautiful sydney adelaide uh brisbane the the perth questions are
00:41:53.660
really asking and they're some of the most beautiful yeah yeah this is great by the way
00:41:57.420
i like what you said about that there's like a mausoleum it's in water um yes it's not just that
00:42:03.680
it's a grave i forget the wording you used and you can help you fill the blanks in there but it's like
00:42:07.540
it's a remembrance to our ancestors right and the fact that it's a it's a non-religious building but
00:42:12.920
it kind of weaved into that you have a focused religious kind of aspiration in the building
00:42:17.740
it's the australian folk religion every year it is an australian folk religion it is the organic
00:42:22.080
area of australia and the church actually complained about who will try to explain to you
00:42:27.580
protestant church both complained about diversity and inclusion this building they complained about
00:42:32.300
anzac day um there's a famous instance where anzac day fell the 25th fell on a sunday um and the
00:42:39.240
church complained that fighting that anzac day should be moved because now you're forcing people
00:42:44.040
to choose what i'm standing on today is the most significant at which they call the civic pagan
00:42:49.780
religion of the state which i thought was quite an interesting attack on anzac day or a temple to
00:42:55.860
our ancestors from that lens a temple to sacrifice so yeah it is the it is the innate organic folk religion
00:43:01.520
of australia the anzacs went willingly worship of they were volunteers the sacrifice they were thoroughbreds
00:43:07.720
um the men that went as volunteers to fight for the british empire they believe which they saw as
00:43:13.300
australia as an outpost of the british race and they fought men from the european race the
00:43:17.840
aryan race and they didn't fight them because of their enemies political beliefs they didn't
00:43:23.000
fight them because these other countries didn't have pride parades and we did it's a shrine a temple
00:43:27.100
to our our ancestral religion when was it built to them i believe it took four years to build
00:43:34.180
and what they fought for finished in 1927 this is an ancient custom or 26 i can't i can't remember
00:43:39.920
but i think they started in 1921 or 22 and carry on their legacy in their name yeah
00:43:45.400
yeah beautiful so anyway so what what what the welcome to country is is it's uh you don't
00:43:51.120
necessarily worship the fire itself uh or the stone or the buildings or the idols canada
00:43:56.100
uh and maybe they're worship the lineage as well where it's heroism they get some
00:44:00.840
this is the hall of the dead individual the hall of the ancestors and arians take this idea
00:44:06.980
they basically claim that we're standing on we never forget that we're not sovereign to our
00:44:11.520
even the prayers that are said here and they claim that they are the sovereign of the country
00:44:15.040
rest in peace and they're they're they're allowing us they're they're going to it carries our national
00:44:20.680
identity it's our land but we're this identity is alive on our land for this it lives within us
00:44:25.840
ceremony for this process we're going to allow this ceremony it is to take place on our land
00:44:29.660
um and uh obviously that is despicable it's absolutely disgusting it's untrue we are the
00:44:35.620
sovereign uh well the crown is the legal sovereign and we are the descendants of the crown
00:44:40.480
we are um uh but by the by the legal definitions of australia uh we're a sovereign nation under the crown
00:44:47.500
so the uh the welcome to country takes place at football games it began taking place uh just at
00:44:57.280
like aboriginal only events and then it kept expanding expanding expanding until it was you know in the
00:45:02.560
public consciousness it was in you know at schools at kindergartens um uh you know they're brainwashing
00:45:08.880
you know babies with this basically uh and now i think this was the first or second year that they've
00:45:13.940
tried to do it at anzac day and we just decided to hit it hit it hard and hit it early um and we're
00:45:19.220
going to hit it next year we're going to hit it the year after and and we're going to just compound
00:45:22.600
and expand our our um destruction of this uh of this bullshit ritual um and we're never going to stop
00:45:29.900
until it's eradicated uh from our country we saw jacob percent being zoomed in on during the
00:45:35.840
the boo cost as well i'm not sure if you were there as well but it was interesting i was there as well
00:45:40.520
okay good it was so crowded i mean yeah normally anzac day is like maybe 5 000 people in the city
00:45:45.520
and for some reason this year it was like it felt like 10 times what it normally is it was just you
00:45:50.760
couldn't get into the areas and i think jacob got there a fair bit earlier than me so i was about 50
00:45:55.440
meters away um but i was trying to get as close as possible to the uh to the to the speaker so it
00:46:01.820
could be it could be her so he could hear it um but i was probably over 100 meters away jacob was
00:46:07.200
probably around 50 meters away and he was definitely the most vocal on the day um yeah jacob went he's
00:46:12.740
he's the tip of the spear when it comes to things like this he he loves it but it showed you right
00:46:17.320
because it was a lot of support i mean we played some clips with debates in the media afterwards i
00:46:22.860
think there was a veteran who was like they have the right to do that or i forget what the wording
00:46:26.280
was but he was he seemed supportive more or less you know i mean yeah well that that veteran uh
00:46:31.260
was actually standing next to jacob just just by happenstance um while jacob was being interviewed
00:46:36.640
by the media um so that the media separated those two clips but that's actually all one big
00:46:42.920
conversation where jacob's getting harassed by the media and jacob's standing up for what we believe
00:46:48.160
and then the veteran steps in and supports jacob and agrees with jacob and says that you know
00:46:53.900
so many of my mates don't come to anzac day because they're sick of the the woke shit they're sick of
00:46:58.060
getting lectured about aboriginal land or gays or whatever and uh that there would be more people
00:47:02.980
here if it wasn't so disrespectful um so i mean these i mean that that aboriginal in particular
00:47:09.160
is a absolutely i i can't not think of uh i think it's a nietzschean uh term he called it the spite of
00:47:16.360
the chandala or something like that and and that's when i went these abos they've got this spiteful evil
00:47:22.440
energy in them like they are absolutely um visceral in their hatred of of our nation um and i mean it's
00:47:30.200
understandable we conquered them we destroyed them they are the vanquished but you know they are trying
00:47:35.160
to subvert in a like we killed all their warriors so what we're dealing with now uh they're they're
00:47:41.240
spiteful subversive little rodent activists that are being assisted and get helped and get taught
00:47:47.960
of course by jews but yeah of course i get your point yeah of course how many are there uh would
00:47:54.240
you say number wise aboriginals oh it it compound it's the fastest growing demographic in australia
00:48:01.600
because how many people claim to be aboriginal oh on paper okay on paper i think it went from like
00:48:06.360
a hundred thousand to like three hundred thousand in five years wow um good because yeah because you
00:48:11.880
get because you get business grants yeah no they didn't have no they get business grants they get uh
00:48:17.960
they get like cheaper home loans they don't have to put deposits down like there's just so many
00:48:22.160
benefits they get more centrelink they get more welfare um there's only benefits from being
00:48:26.660
aboriginal in in 2025 so a lot of people just pretend to be aboriginal or a lot of people that are
00:48:31.700
0.1 percent aboriginal claim to be aboriginal yeah um it's like the u.s with a you know native americans
00:48:38.080
even the sami does it like in sweden and norway and stuff like that that they realize they can get a leg
00:48:42.180
up it's like sure i'm totally they look super white you know and that i was like yeah i'm a sami i'm i'm a
00:48:47.120
i'm a quote-unquote native right yeah well i'm a yam naya so where am i there you go exactly
00:48:52.520
uber native yeah yeah i'm crow i'm crow magnon you know i'm from the first man but uh yeah yeah
00:49:00.920
the uh yeah there's probably only like 50 000 of them uh like that are full or half cast and then
00:49:10.060
there's probably another 50 000 that are probably like quarter cast and then there's probably another
00:49:14.180
100 000 that are octorunal or less so they're quite a diluted population yeah um so that's about
00:49:21.280
uh what's that that's like one percent of the population so maybe as they get wider if that's
00:49:27.360
the primary group that they do intermix with they get maybe smarter and more spiteful is that
00:49:32.940
maybe that's how it works yeah yes yeah but they're just revolting like i like this there's a
00:49:39.140
um they should be really considered uh from a natural science perspective like they should be
00:49:45.640
studied more as uh from a natural science perspective in terms of i mean they're really
00:49:50.880
they've got a quite a psychic animalistic intuition which is quite interesting i've run into lots of
00:49:55.360
drunk abos and it's it's quite incredible just the garbage that comes out of their mouth and how true
00:49:59.240
it is um you know it's it's very they're quite a fascinating people to study um their existence but
00:50:06.400
they're absolutely revolting like more studies are being conducted now than than ever and the the
00:50:12.940
child rape uh is just i mean it is just commonplace it it's just part of their constitution they are an
00:50:20.460
absolutely revolting people the percentage of child rape um of their own children um there are
00:50:26.400
tribes that they have to lock the women um and children up at night to stop the drunk elders from
00:50:33.160
raping the children um they lock them up um and hide the key uh and and the men will get drunk in a
00:50:39.780
circle and then the children will be locked in a cage to keep them safe um they are just an
00:50:44.180
absolutely revolting existence um and i have zero sympathy for what comes next interesting let me take a
00:50:50.860
couple of super chats here uh there's your risker says after listening to this episode from the
00:50:54.720
archives hail to thomas and the australian comrades dear water aller dinge is their kampf which
00:51:01.020
basically translates to the father of all things is the fight or the struggle the struggle yeah
00:51:07.000
struggle is the father of all things i've got that written down yeah there you go thank you
00:51:10.240
appreciate that albert good to see you thank you so much for that generous don't as well we appreciate
00:51:14.240
it albert thank you he says hi henryk looking forward to the interview with thomas sewell hope you had a
00:51:18.400
great weekend we did thank you uh thank you albert rather uh keep up the great work we appreciate you
00:51:23.140
albert very very kind of you yeah if you guys have any specific questions or comments obviously
00:51:27.600
throughout the show uh entropy scene.live slash red ice tv you can super chat there rumble as well
00:51:33.200
i'll keep an eye on that i have neglected to watch that it's harder sometimes with new interviews
00:51:36.520
because i want to focus on the guests 100 percent uh a couple more things here i want to get in
00:51:40.840
obviously before we take a break for the second part but is there any i mean you you start you
00:51:45.240
talked about maybe the ambitions the goal here is actually to form this into a political force as
00:51:49.820
well at some point obviously uh right now is there anyone in you might not even care about this but
00:51:56.100
like australian politics to worth paying any attention i've heard about babbitt obviously i've
00:52:01.420
heard you talk about him i forget what the i was trying to find i just couldn't remember it
00:52:05.320
there was a woman for a little bit there who was kind of good on some things immigration and so forth
00:52:10.200
maybe you could maybe you recall who i mean but she was all enhanced yeah pauline that's right yeah
00:52:14.960
there's a there's a red-headed lady that used to run a fish and chip store in the 90s
00:52:19.180
who uh who had some good advisors and she was i think she were originally joined the liberal party
00:52:26.520
and they kicked her out because she she made a few too many comments that were racist and she actually
00:52:32.660
had a big organic following and so uh then a party called one nation was formed i think with her as one
00:52:39.400
of the lead speakers and uh i don't think she ran the party but she was one of the lead speakers of the
00:52:44.600
party and she was elected and she had some very good advisors our guys were were on her side giving
00:52:50.680
her strength and and ideological integrity and she made famous speeches saying that australia is
00:52:56.160
is going to be swamped with asians or that we're on the precipice of being swamped by asians
00:53:00.660
and everyone laughed at her and called her an idiot um and you know she's a bogan she's a moron she
00:53:06.780
doesn't know what she's talking about and now we fast forward about 20 years and australia has
00:53:11.380
successfully been swamped by asians um and the problem with uh pauline hansen is that she uh she
00:53:19.400
got broken by the liberal party uh about five or ten years of her way into her career the liberal party
00:53:24.720
has a a like a sub department called the uh politicians for honest politicians which is actually
00:53:30.780
uh their their nice optics version of their what's called their dirty tricks department they've got a
00:53:37.780
dirty tricks department and they made up uh malicious lies and fed the police malicious uh and
00:53:43.100
false information um to ensure that she was arrested for fraud which it turned out she didn't commit
00:53:48.500
fraud um but they did everything they could to undermine her and they they put her in prison and
00:53:53.020
they humiliated her and they they sexually assaulted her um and uh they degraded her yes yes the state
00:54:00.280
didn't even hear about that holy smokes yeah yeah state they the state molested her while she was in
00:54:05.980
prison um she was really horribly treated and uh the and they broke her they they they fucking
00:54:13.440
they stockholm syndromed her now she's an agent of the liberal party um never been removed from
00:54:18.960
parliament like she she gets her she wins her seat um like her parties is just to keep her in on a fat
00:54:25.540
paycheck um it does the same five percent roughly every year but back in the day i think they were
00:54:31.140
pushing 20 percent for their state queensland like they were primarily in the state of queensland
00:54:35.640
which is well known for its white nationalism um they're they're some of the most politically
00:54:40.760
right-wing people in the country so uh on the whole like on average right uh so she's she's a bad faith
00:54:47.560
operative now she's an absolutely horrible despicable person now she's a turncoat um and she's betrayed
00:54:53.160
australia she now has asians and indians in her party in leading positions uh but you know she warned
00:55:00.260
she was part of a team of people that were warning us back in the 90s that this would happen and now
00:55:04.840
she's gone turncoat and said that oh it's okay it's okay actually um you know as long as they adopt
00:55:09.760
australian values like my asian friend here and it's just it's just absolutely despicable so in terms of
00:55:16.200
the other people in parliament um yeah i've said in the past that uh jared renick um who i don't believe
00:55:21.740
got re-elected uh so yeah i have to assess who's actually still in there there's a guy in the
00:55:26.220
liberal party i think in uh south australia called antic and the liberal party just keep him very very
00:55:32.580
silent they don't let him talk ever because he he seems to be very very based um as based as you can
00:55:39.380
be within the conservative party um but the liberal party has gone uh has lost this election they've done
00:55:45.560
a horrible job um labor has doubled down and won with great strides and the liberal party has decided
00:55:51.200
that what they're going to do to try to win next election is be more left wing which is absolutely
00:55:54.840
perfect because that's the opposite of what they should do um from a perspective of winning um or as
00:56:01.200
a perspective of destroying us so the fact that they're going to become more left wing is absolutely
00:56:06.040
perfect they'll be smaller they'll be weaker they'll leave more room to the right um there'll be
00:56:10.640
more room to maneuver and build alliances uh of convenience so to speak uh and allow us to to come
00:56:17.220
onto the scene so it's just it's all going to plan they're they're suiciding themselves as a political
00:56:22.820
party um one nation's not going anywhere uh in terms of anywhere good they're just continuing to
00:56:29.040
be complicit with the replacement of whites um which will eventually have the majority of people turn
00:56:33.800
against them um on the right wing uh the minor parties can't organize themselves and it's just important
00:56:39.960
that we engage in the the bare minimum uh as as part of as part of our total operation it's a very
00:56:47.520
important part we need a legal lobby we need a political group we need like you know a political
00:56:51.040
party so to speak um we are a political group uh our group in its nature is political um but yeah we
00:56:56.860
can't just it's not all just punching each other in the head of the park and and uh doing flash
00:57:00.880
demos um we're a multi-faceted operation so a political party is a part of that operation
00:57:06.720
um it's not the it's not the uh ends in itself um we have to build a new state we have to build a new
00:57:13.820
state and that's what i am focused on entirely building a new state a white state yeah yeah
00:57:21.680
absolutely um it has to be done the one has uh the one we the ones we got in the west have turned
00:57:27.800
their backs on us time and time again they show us that they hate us they want us gone they want to
00:57:31.820
replace us they do everything they can obviously yeah babbit is interesting i know you brought him up a
00:57:36.400
couple of times um he's just a meme babbit's a meme is he okay it's the most he's the most based
00:57:42.240
person in parliament because he's because he's brown he's caramel so he's allowed to get away
00:57:46.760
with some things yeah yeah he says he shared the kanye el hitler thing he uh he always he said
00:57:53.560
recently he made a tweet saying i would rather get a beer with the nsn guys that want to deport me
00:57:58.260
then you know these sucky you know woke left hearts basically yeah so it's just a funny cunt like uh
00:58:03.860
right yeah yeah and i just joke around about it like shakes i don't want any alliances with
00:58:10.080
brown people but i just uh i'm not i'm not going down that path in life um but he's a good one
00:58:16.360
that's not my position my position is just that like enjoy the circus parliament is a circus it's
00:58:20.920
a fucking joke enjoy it enjoy it yeah otherwise you'll just you'll drive yourself crazy going why
00:58:25.540
won't anyone do anything it's like don't enjoy it too much get active but um yeah like the the circus
00:58:32.520
is tearing itself apart like the parliament just continues to um make itself seem like an
00:58:37.380
unprofessional joke it continues to lose its own credibility um i mean they're just having gay
00:58:42.700
orgies and and they're just fucking prostitutes uh all the time and it's just embarrassed they're
00:58:48.260
an embarrassment they're absolutely embarrassing yeah and we are serious we are getting more
00:58:53.560
professional we are building credibility we are building sympathy and support i mean this documentary
00:58:59.160
you keep putting up uh i suggest everyone watch it yeah uh so we're actually about that it's not just
00:59:04.800
a bunch of uh nazi loppers um that we are actually building a genuine serious political movement um off
00:59:11.680
off membership dues off the you know off you know 30 grand a year or something so uh imagine what we
00:59:19.200
could do with a supporter class of a couple thousand people yeah giving us maybe 50 bucks a month and
00:59:23.900
what we could do with with a million dollars a year if this is what we're doing with 30 grand a year i
00:59:28.500
mean the guys that made this video i mean this this production um i saw a political advisor say on twitter
00:59:33.460
that uh that you know this production is better quality than the hit piece that abc and the sbs did
00:59:41.780
against us recently or one or the other uh on there you know they're a billion dollar company like
00:59:46.160
billion dollar two billion dollar budget a year um they would have had teams of dozens of guys
00:59:51.540
trying to uh make us look bad and uh we made this on a budget of basically nothing i mean we have
00:59:57.600
the we own the cameras already people have their own computers and four four to five guys put this
01:00:03.380
together awesome yeah i started watching it i was gonna watch the whole thing later but uh yeah
01:00:07.520
definitely check it out it's on x and telegram obviously up on the white oz.org or white australia.org
01:00:13.120
website you can go straight there yeah uh watch it there as well i think it's embedded through
01:00:16.860
rumble but so i want to obviously we're gonna take a break here in a little bit i want to ask you a
01:00:20.940
little bit more about your long-term goals and things like this um you know you've seen growth
01:00:25.140
more members uh in terms of what what you expect more happening in terms of the government and
01:00:30.160
things like that so lots more to get into but um can anybody join tell us a bit about that you know
01:00:35.860
plug some of your stuff here um can anybody apply to become a member are there requirements things like
01:00:41.620
this are you seeing a lot of interest in joining yeah absolutely most of the interest because we just
01:00:47.100
started the supporter class idea that people can join without having to do all the the running and
01:00:53.160
the fighting and the activism um we need people that can just come and and support us financially and
01:00:59.180
want to attend seminars and be political party members um and help build the the breadth and the
01:01:04.940
width of the organization in that sense uh we don't expect everyone to be an active member
01:01:10.020
um but we are building supporters so uh i won't say exactly how many uh we've gotten because people
01:01:16.760
get frustrated with me within the uh inner circle when i when i give out exact numbers but we've done
01:01:22.020
very very well um yeah we've basically tripled the size of the organization so uh in two months uh but
01:01:29.500
obviously it's it's it's not we haven't tripled our membership of active members um in two months
01:01:35.920
yeah we've just uh we've probably only grown about five percent um in terms of our membership in the
01:01:41.500
last couple months but as a general rule our membership grows around 30 to 40 percent a year
01:01:46.420
and that's been pretty consistent for about three years so it just keeps getting just we just trot
01:01:50.900
along we're getting bigger and bigger in terms of our active guys and uh but now we've got this like
01:01:55.460
absolute skyrocket in support and membership because of this new avenue of getting involved uh and we're
01:02:01.360
trying to put on a seminar we had a practice seminar about uh i don't know i can't remember a couple
01:02:06.280
weeks ago and uh so we're putting on seminars uh behind the scenes to practice how we would present
01:02:13.880
our political ideas which i guess is what the second half of this interview is about um that you want to
01:02:18.480
talk to me about it sure i guess yeah definitely of things um so we were practicing that like getting
01:02:23.580
getting the guys an opportunity to practice their public speaking um and we're doing that across the
01:02:27.420
country uh and we're planning on doing a major seminar once every three months that integrates
01:02:33.560
into the calendar of our other events our activism and our training events so um that's how the
01:02:39.740
supporter class can engage they can come down and listen to speeches and have a beer and and uh yeah
01:02:45.000
yeah be part be part be part of something feel that they're involved in real life and that
01:02:49.240
they're contributing to a project um without having to do too much yeah no and you need those too
01:02:55.020
people got busy lives there's yeah exactly it's different age groups and there's still my yes
01:02:59.040
there's potential anyone anyone anyone sorry to answer your question quickly anyone can join as a
01:03:05.780
supporter uh as long as they're i mean we don't obviously accept overseas supporters but we'll accept
01:03:10.560
overseas donations um but anyone can join as a support well not to the political party i think
01:03:15.160
that's illegal but uh we certainly as an organization um uh yeah i don't know how that's going to work
01:03:21.180
but uh i guess i'll talk to the accountant but as an organization you can join if you're an australian
01:03:26.180
citizen uh if you're white um and if you're of sound mind and and spirit um there are some people
01:03:33.720
in wheelchairs and old guys with walking sticks they're allowed to join it's not an issue they can
01:03:38.200
be a supporter um as long as they're of sound mind um and and sound spirit they're not uh we don't
01:03:43.300
accept obviously um you know freaks and sexual degenerates and stuff like that so
01:03:47.040
uh in terms of what we accept as a member yeah you have to you know uh and when i say a member i
01:03:53.320
mean engaged in the active club engaged in the activism um engaged in what we're building which
01:03:58.180
is an order we're building an order of men and uh uh to join that yeah you would have to be
01:04:04.180
between 16 and there's no top limit our oldest member would probably be in his late 60s
01:04:11.200
um but i i did have a guy once um who was 72 or 73 um try to be involved as well and and he would
01:04:19.280
come down and just watch so as long as you you meet the kind of minimum requirements um you can
01:04:24.140
be a member of the org which is a bit more strict uh in terms of attendance um there's no attendance
01:04:29.580
uh requirement to be a supporter you can come once a year you can come 10 times a year it doesn't matter
01:04:35.120
um so yeah yeah very good very good no i appreciate that so yeah white australia.org that's really
01:04:42.080
uh the best place to go for more on that and obviously then for your telegram we want to plug
01:04:47.140
that here too tom sull uncensored one word t.me forward slash tom sull uncensored uh and i think of
01:04:53.060
the other one you had a bot was it a bot a vet bot for the white australia did i see that correct
01:04:58.080
so it's called yeah at at white aus bot white aus bot so w-h-i-t-e-a-u-s-b-o-t so that's on
01:05:09.880
telegram if you message that bot that's how you can get in contact with us um but also the website
01:05:15.360
has the same system set up but just through the website format so i don't mind if you're on
01:05:19.840
telegram go through the bot if you're if you're not on telegram go through the website yep you got
01:05:24.400
it right there why necessarily dot org join the slash support us if you want if you want to join
01:05:28.600
as a member uh the bot will make you sign up as a supporter first and there's an anonymous method
01:05:34.120
um because obviously a lot of activists don't want to be like aec registered members of the org
01:05:39.160
um but if you want to be part of the the supporter class in terms of uh building the political party
01:05:45.920
you will have to give um some details you might not be usually comfortable with giving uh like a a
01:05:51.280
white nationalist organization but that is so that we can register the political
01:05:54.200
party we can't just be like oh bob from um melbourne that doesn't that doesn't work you can't we can't
01:06:00.840
use that when we when we need the 1500 um because it gets audited the list gets audited by the australian
01:06:06.120
electoral commission which is you know meant to be objectively separate from the australian government
01:06:11.720
um so yeah just be aware of that if you don't want to give your details to the aec um there's the
01:06:17.880
anonymous supporter thing which we've called the social supporter so you'll still get an email
01:06:22.040
to your burner email with the details for when our quarterly seminars are so you can still come
01:06:26.760
down be involved and we'll work out a function we're just dealing with the accountants at the
01:06:31.160
moment to be able to set up a function um to to create the uh donation and uh membership payment
01:06:39.640
system through the website uh so yeah so regardless of whether you want to be a supporter or a member you
01:06:46.200
have to join also as a supporter all right very good so that's some of the details there so uh yeah
01:06:52.040
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