Red Ice TV - The Struggle For Finland - Tuukka Kuru

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00:04:29.980 And, you know, and the opposite happens during wintertime that the sun will not raise up above the horizon for many months.

00:04:38.400 But in southern Finland, it's more balanced.

00:04:40.400 So, I think the darkness lasts around one and a half hours maximum.

00:04:46.100 So, it's really bright outside.

00:04:48.100 So, it's really bright outside and you can still read a book during midnight.

00:04:52.180 I love it.

00:04:52.640 So, even in southern Finland, it's really good.

00:04:54.900 Yeah, well, we are up in north, yeah, well, we are up in north Idaho, it's like probably like 9.30 now or something, it gets dark and then it starts getting lighter, maybe around three or two, something like that, maybe three.

00:05:04.580 But, yeah, where I live in Sweden, it was, yeah, we got a couple of, maybe an hour, maybe an hour and a half or so of like, you know, darkness during the summer solstice period when it's the brightest.

00:05:17.360 I do miss it though, it's very nice.

00:05:19.020 All right, so anyway, lots to talk about here today regarding, you know, well, obviously the struggle for Finland, what's happening there in terms of politics.

00:05:25.960 You have a political party that just got recognized, got like official status and stuff like that.

00:05:30.840 But give us, I guess, kind of an overview first as a way of introducing yourself too to our audience for those who didn't catch the last one almost 10 years ago.

00:05:37.780 So, we have a lot of new listeners as well.

00:05:39.660 So, when did you get involved in this and, you know, nationalist activism, getting into politics and all that?

00:05:46.300 Well, I can give you a little background story.

00:05:48.420 I'm ex-libertarian.

00:05:50.780 I went through the pipeline, as you know, from the right-wing individualists to the white racial collectivists.

00:06:00.820 And it all started when I was younger.

00:06:02.960 I felt like all hate speech laws and all these kind of welfare systems we were maintaining in Finland, they were not meant to serve me.

00:06:19.460 They were meant to serve women population, minority population, sexual minorities and so on.

00:06:26.180 And I felt the libertarianism would be the great answer for that.

00:06:30.940 You know, my money, my property, don't tell me what to do.

00:06:34.940 And it was like childish, I would say childish way to show some resistance against the social democratic system.

00:06:45.320 But as you know, the libertarian and this pro-capital, pro-market ideals are coming from the same source as socialism.

00:06:54.560 They just see people as consumer units and every political question is economic question.

00:07:04.700 So the libertarians and left-wings are just arguing about what is the best way to ensure the maximum material prosperity for the individuals.

00:07:16.500 And it's a really hollow kind of dialogue.

00:07:21.420 It's like happiness equals economy and material wealth, basically.

00:07:25.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:07:26.160 Yes.

00:07:26.680 And when everything is under the economic root, it means that there is not any purpose for distinct races, religions, languages.

00:07:37.720 And even though I was a libertarian, I really enjoyed our nation's history and I showed great respect towards the war veterans.

00:07:48.860 So I spent a couple of years trying to integrate the nationalistic tendencies and the libertarian political system.

00:07:59.080 And as you know, it's completely impossible because under the libertarian worldview, every people is equal.

00:08:06.000 Like as a liberal system, liberal way of living, every individual is equal.

00:08:12.640 So you can easily replace one individual with another individual.

00:08:16.660 There is not any distinction between the population, distinction between the races and nationalities and so on.

00:08:27.080 So I didn't find found any economic argument against the population replacement.

00:08:35.020 So I had to leave from the libertarian circles, especially during the refugee crisis, when nearly 40,000 people arrived to Finland.

00:08:45.980 And many of my ex-like colleagues back then were arguing that they will raise our GDP.

00:08:53.800 More population means more money.

00:08:56.800 And I felt that, no, it's not enough.

00:08:59.660 How long were you in the libertarian circus for?

00:09:04.040 Around four to five years.

00:09:06.100 I even tried to, you know, collect signatures to get one libertarian party to the party register.

00:09:15.440 It never succeeded.

00:09:17.040 But this another party I'm now leading, it succeeded twice.

00:09:22.320 There you go.

00:09:23.680 Interesting.

00:09:24.100 So there are some, yeah, there are some, there are some tendencies here.

00:09:27.420 Now this is the, if I pull it up, right, this is the political party.

00:09:30.680 How would you say this?

00:09:31.540 Help me, because some Finnish words I know, but this one.

00:09:34.300 Sinimusta liike.

00:09:35.460 Did I always say it?

00:09:37.180 Sinimusta liike.

00:09:38.140 Yes.

00:09:38.960 That's right.

00:09:39.500 There's a long eye.

00:09:40.760 It's on there.

00:09:41.160 That's right.

00:09:41.480 There you go.

00:09:41.860 What does that, what does that mean?

00:09:43.300 So audience knows.

00:09:43.940 It means blue and black movement and blue and black color pattern that was used by the

00:09:50.260 Finnish radical right before the Second World War.

00:09:53.540 Ah, there you go.

00:09:54.320 Exactly.

00:09:54.740 Okay, great.

00:09:55.440 And you get like, yeah, official status recognized.

00:09:58.220 How was that process?

00:09:59.220 Just getting involved in that, the bureaucracy of that and all the mess?

00:10:02.440 Well, we got banned once because our party program was against the human rights and international,

00:10:10.840 some international human rights pacts that Finland is member of.

00:10:18.420 So because we were trying to promote racial register to our system, because as you know,

00:10:26.280 in Sweden, as in Finland, we don't have ethnic register in our countries.

00:10:31.080 We just have rough numbers about the mother tongue of the population.

00:10:39.960 So you know how many people speak Somali as their mother language, but you don't know

00:10:46.160 how many blacks or Africans you have in Finland.

00:10:50.240 Yeah, not that long ago, they did away with it.

00:10:52.860 Like any type of legislation, any type of government documents or whatever cannot contain any information.

00:10:58.500 I mean, America at least does that still kind of right.

00:11:01.420 They keep statistics on that stuff, you know.

00:11:03.640 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:04.140 And the interesting part is that even Great Britain has that kind of register, population register.

00:11:09.280 Yeah, they do, don't they?

00:11:10.140 Interesting.

00:11:10.900 Yes, racial census.

00:11:12.620 And Ireland also.

00:11:14.060 They haven't gotten around to that yet.

00:11:15.460 Give them time, I would assume.

00:11:18.200 We wanted to have that kind of system to Finland.

00:11:20.900 And it was the reason why we got banned, or at least it was one of the main reasons, because

00:11:26.760 they argued, the Ministry of Justice, that if we use that kind of census method, it makes

00:11:36.880 expelling people easier.

00:11:39.580 So if we know how many racial minorities there are in Finland, it's easier to kick them out. 1.00

00:11:44.920 So that's why we can't use that kind of statistical method.

00:11:49.400 So what happened?

00:11:49.880 Did you just rewrite the party program and do away with that, or what happened?

00:11:55.160 We made a shorter one that, you know, the first draft was 52 pages.

00:12:01.980 And there was answer to every question, agricultural, social, monetary politics.

00:12:08.200 Everything was included to the larger program.

00:12:10.500 And within that larger program, there was maybe three or four things that was too radical.

00:12:19.720 So we got expelled from the party register.

00:12:22.720 We applied the new party program that was far shorter.

00:12:26.780 Usually the political parties have like one main program that is maybe two to three pages long.

00:12:33.920 I was going to ask, is it 52?

00:12:35.300 I would assume it's longer than most other parties, right?

00:12:38.000 Yeah.

00:12:38.180 Usually it just contains the basic values of the party.

00:12:43.320 And they are like not connected to current year.

00:12:48.880 Anyhow, they are like, they can use the same program for decades.

00:12:52.660 Most of the political parties still have the same program they had 100 years ago.

00:12:57.720 Right.

00:12:58.400 Yeah.

00:12:58.600 So we made the same kind of program.

00:13:01.360 We didn't say that we want to do these kind of policies against the minorities.

00:13:06.040 We said we want white Finland, for example.

00:13:09.160 So it's legal to promote white Finland, but it's not legal to promote like some kind of 0.70

00:13:19.320 distinct program to take away citizenships from the people.

00:13:24.100 So if you don't say something's too honest, you can proceed to the party register.

00:13:32.520 It's a really interesting one.

00:13:34.060 I see.

00:13:34.480 You can point out the end goals and they will approve the end goals, but not the methods

00:13:40.040 how to get to that point.

00:13:41.740 So we are not, per se, more moderate than we were before.

00:13:50.660 The program is just far shorter than it was.

00:13:53.100 We got accepted after we gathered over 5,000 signatures that is needed according to Finnish law.

00:14:04.780 And, you know, we have this kind of anti-racist media that took all the signatures from the

00:14:14.260 first time we gathered those names and they start calling people.

00:14:17.780 Why did you put your name on the list?

00:14:21.080 Are you a racist? 0.98

00:14:22.620 Do you hate Jews? 0.93

00:14:23.960 Why? 0.90

00:14:24.360 Do you hate Romani people?

00:14:27.120 And they did it again.

00:14:29.180 And there were some people with, you know, who were policemen, who were military person.

00:14:34.960 And they called them and said, why did you support that kind of political party?

00:14:41.180 And some of them said that they support every party.

00:14:44.320 That's a pretty good answer.

00:14:45.560 And some of them said, I didn't know what I was doing. 0.96

00:14:48.680 That is, of course, bullshit because we are in every official party statement. 0.98

00:14:55.420 We say that we are a radical, racial, nationalistic party that wants to make Finland white. 0.99

00:15:02.520 So I don't know how you have wrong conclusions from that kind of...

00:15:08.320 Were you out in the streets, knocking on doors?

00:15:11.700 I assume you had a sizable amount of volunteers out there too then to help to get to these signatures?

00:15:17.920 Or how did this...

00:15:18.700 Especially during the second time, you know, I had, I created a family, I got kids.

00:15:28.860 I wasn't able to, you know, drive all around Finland to gather signatures like I did in the first time.

00:15:35.340 I think I visited at least 23 cities and towns when I was gathering the names, but not this time.

00:15:42.160 But luckily we had many more activists this time.

00:15:46.800 We are growing movement.

00:15:49.120 So I was able to more or less monitor or supervise the situation.

00:15:54.480 And then we also changed tactics.

00:15:58.020 We were not only, you know, spending day after day after day in the city center.

00:16:03.980 We were having like larger, more provocative events.

00:16:08.440 And those events, you know, many people should be interested to watch them.

00:16:13.140 And there were like tens or hundreds of people who attended or wanted to know more about us, especially when we were having this kind of book circles in local libraries.

00:16:25.860 I think you have heard about them.

00:16:27.300 Yes, I have we chose some like Finnish nationalistic literature, for example, Kalevala and that kind of books.

00:16:37.920 And we tried to rent a venue from the library and it was denied because everything that our movement does is somehow against the human rights.

00:16:49.780 Even though we would read, we need to prove it's against the human rights because our movement is anti-immigration.

00:16:56.560 It was that kind of policy they started to make, because every time we went to the library, there were 200 Antifa members yelling, yelling at the library.

00:17:08.380 And the police were not interested about the situation.

00:17:11.240 They said that it's library's responsibility to maintain order.

00:17:15.620 And every time it was complete chaos when we tried to read some book and it was like really good cinema.

00:17:23.620 Thousands of people wanted to somehow support us, not because they liked our policies, but because they hated the Antifa behavior.

00:17:36.360 I think it happens, it happens many times, also in other countries, because, as you know, when you see a video recording where a group of silent nationalists are trying to read a book and then there is two or three hundred people yelling and spitting and, you know, like.

00:17:58.860 Good optics.

00:17:59.360 Yeah, and those people who were attending, you know, some of them were really drunk, some of them were under the influence of some drugs and they were like complete caricature of the neo-leftist movement.

00:18:16.160 They were transsexuals having some kind of anti-racist dance going on. 0.98

00:18:21.840 And I think many moderate people in Finland were thinking, what the hell is going on? 0.58

00:18:26.900 What are those people?

00:18:28.120 Yeah, how long was the party, but banned is kind of the wrong word, but not approved, I guess, to a certain extent.

00:18:34.940 How many, was that a, how long of a period was that?

00:18:38.120 One year.

00:18:38.840 One year.

00:18:39.260 Okay, it's not too, too long.

00:18:40.560 Okay.

00:18:41.240 So tell us about the motivations behind that a little bit, because of course, there's many people in our sphere.

00:18:45.240 They're like, we're done with politics.

00:18:46.620 There's no political solutions.

00:18:48.020 Don't even try kind of thing.

00:18:49.320 I think we should try everything we can.

00:18:51.320 So I'm very encouraged that people do what you're doing, wherever they are, whatever country they're in, and try different ways.

00:18:57.740 They can be summits or think tanks or activist groups or political parties, whatever it is.

00:19:02.920 But why did you want to go this route, did you feel?

00:19:05.300 I completely understand those people who oppose parliamentary action, especially if it's really difficult to try to run any kind of pure nationalistic program.

00:19:18.440 But I think the situation in Finland is somehow good, because even though we have stated that we are openly racist party, we have stated that we are anti-Sionist party, they have not tried to ban us because we are racist, but because of the party program.

00:19:36.560 Because the party program is not properly anymore for the minister of justice, they don't care anymore about tweets or articles we publish.

00:19:49.860 And of course, we don't want to break the law or be too provocative.

00:19:54.340 But still, I think we can try to run racial politics in the Finnish parliamentary system.

00:20:02.380 But we also see that the nationalistic movement is not a single party.

00:20:07.000 It's a larger subculture, but it needs all kinds of tools.

00:20:12.520 And political party platform is one of those tools that was missing before, because there was like a great division between the radical nationalistic people and the political or parliamentary movement.

00:20:27.040 There was only one party, True Finns, as you know, it's more or less conservative populist party.

00:20:33.640 And many of those radicals voted for them because there was not any better party.

00:20:38.560 And that populist party was working with the system and with the rules of the system.

00:20:45.160 So everyone more or less agreed that you can't discuss about race, you can't discuss about Jews, you can't discuss about anything that is too spicy. 0.79

00:20:56.660 So people were giving votes to party that never made any kind of racial policies.

00:21:04.840 So I think it was suicidal for the radical nationalistic people.

00:21:09.860 We had to have our own platform.

00:21:12.140 And I think every vote counts more if it goes straightly to the openly racist and nationalistic party.

00:21:20.520 Because the press is not interested about the support that the current political parties are getting, because it doesn't tell anything about the chasing attitudes.

00:21:33.860 But if some openly fascist, openly radical, openly racist political party start getting votes, it means something.

00:21:43.180 It means something has changed in the Finnish society.

00:21:46.400 And that is the thing they are afraid of.

00:21:49.640 What are the true Finns, do they do, like, were against, like, Islamification or something like that?

00:21:55.660 Or, like, how far would you say that they went on certain questions?

00:21:59.280 Well, it depends so much because, of course, I know many of them from my past.

00:22:05.280 And some of them are, like, more blue and black than they are true Finns, but it's not the opinions that differ, it's the attitude.

00:22:15.820 Right.

00:22:16.920 So many of them, when you go to a sauna with them and they drink a couple of beers, you can't make a difference between us and them.

00:22:25.240 But I think they still believe that if you play this kind of moderate image, you will gain more support.

00:22:37.020 And when you have the magical 51% of support and you can form the government by yourself, then you can take off your disguise, you know, and be as nationalistic as you always wanted to be.

00:22:48.280 But the problem is that when the official image of the party is moderate, only moderate people will join to the party.

00:23:00.840 Only moderate people will think that this is my party and I like the moderate policies.

00:23:05.920 And if you ever become a larger party that actually can form a government, you don't want to, you know, make any kind of radical change because it can split the party and destroy the party.

00:23:20.920 So you're kind of, like, tied down, that's what you're saying.

00:23:23.300 Like, then you can't really move that much outside of it.

00:23:26.540 I mean, again, we see this obviously mimicked with, like, Sweden Democrats or something like that.

00:23:30.160 It's a really good example because when you are getting more and more support from the older political parties, it means you have to make that kind of policies that attracts them.

00:23:42.400 If there is someone who has voted for moderate, what is the name in the Swedish system?

00:23:50.380 Yeah.

00:23:50.700 National coalition, coalition party.

00:23:52.620 Okay.

00:23:53.040 The right wing party.

00:23:54.080 Yeah.

00:23:54.540 Yes.

00:23:54.760 So if there's some ex-voter who has voted for the moderates for decades and then he wanted to vote for the Sweden Democrats, it means that the Sweden Democrats can't make any kind of opinion that is against the worldview of that voter.

00:24:13.640 So it means you are just taking the place of the other party.

00:24:18.540 You are changing your way of seeing things to gain more support and you are not changing that attitude or the metaphysics behind it.

00:24:28.540 It's almost like they're soft.

00:24:30.640 What's weird to me is that they're, like, softening over time where you think that then be like, okay, you've established a base.

00:24:36.880 Now kind of push the envelope, as they say.

00:24:38.920 Like, keep kind of pushing that line a little bit.

00:24:40.800 But now it's almost like they're compromising themselves out of existence.

00:24:45.520 You know, if they claim to be conservative, they don't really conserve anything, really.

00:24:49.240 They just, like, cuck to liberal causes, essentially.

00:24:52.720 Yes.

00:24:53.160 And when you start, you know, receiving racial and sexual minorities to the party, it means that your in-group is all the time extending. 0.93

00:25:04.120 So, of course, the Rufin's party is critical towards immigration.

00:25:09.060 But the reason why they are critical changes over time, because when you start including Africans and Arabian and Kurdish people to your ranks,

00:25:20.500 it means that those people are the Finns from now on.

00:25:25.000 Those people are the ones you are trying to defend from the immigration. 1.00

00:25:28.920 And that's why there is many people with immigrant background in the Rufin's party, because there's not a single argument they can use against them.

00:25:41.520 They just say that they support Western liberal ideals, they support LGBT rights, because as you know what happens in Iran or what happens in Palestine, they don't like gays.

00:25:55.920 You know, that kind of stuff.

00:25:57.120 And interestingly, they have lots of conservative voters at the same time, who opposes the gay pride and all that kind of stuff.

00:26:06.040 Right.

00:26:06.560 So they are using this gay rhetoric against immigration. 0.95

00:26:10.320 And at the same time, they are trying to oppose the gay pride.

00:26:13.580 So there's, like, many narratives going on at the same time.

00:26:16.500 And I think it's easier for us because we are, of course, we are a far smaller party and we are more ideological party.

00:26:25.420 So it's easier for us to say that, well, the Muslims are right. 1.00

00:26:29.500 We don't like gays either, but still, they are not white. 0.99

00:26:32.960 We don't like, we don't want them here. 0.99

00:26:34.980 Yeah.

00:26:36.220 And as you know, when it's not rooted or connected to the nationality or race anymore, it means they are defending ideals.

00:26:44.440 And ideals are colorblind.

00:26:46.980 Everyone can be included to some ideal.

00:26:51.780 And, of course, when you are including Somalis and Africans, and I think everyone who is not Muslim to your party, it means the Finnish values, it can be everything.

00:27:07.200 Because not a single person can be outside of the Finnish values.

00:27:11.400 Right.

00:27:11.720 Sometimes I have tried to ask a question that what is the Finnish value, what is the set of Finnish values, and what kind of behavior goes outside of the Finnish values.

00:27:24.300 And, well, they don't know the Finnish history so well, I think.

00:27:28.160 So they just say that, well, it's the markets, capitalism, and it's right to own things, and it's the free speech, but not hate speech, of course.

00:27:39.700 And that's kind of like post-second word for liberal thinking.

00:27:44.120 And I say that those are really new ideas for the Finnish society.

00:27:48.600 They are.

00:27:48.740 We have been 800 years under the rule of crown, so it's far more Finnish to be monarchy than being liberal democracy.

00:27:59.940 Yeah, that's right.

00:28:01.140 Yeah.

00:28:01.620 And also, it feels to me...

00:28:03.220 Go on.

00:28:04.260 Let me continue.

00:28:04.940 And when they have this idea that the set of values make you Finnish, I ask that, is your grandparents some other ethnicity, because they don't share your ideals. 0.72

00:28:16.140 That's right.

00:28:16.640 Because they were born in Finland, where homosexuality was illegal.

00:28:21.980 Yeah.

00:28:22.160 So it means that, are they Finns, even though they didn't have the same set of values as you do?

00:28:28.160 So it must be something else than the values, because values change every year.

00:28:32.800 But the Finnish nation or the Finnish people are ancient.

00:28:37.060 They are thousands of years old.

00:28:38.500 Yeah.

00:28:39.640 Yeah, good point.

00:28:40.640 So how you can define Finnishness without the nation or the people behind it?

00:28:47.400 Yeah.

00:28:47.540 If it's a set of values or it's a religion, it means that everyone, before that certain point, start becoming non-Fin. 0.94

00:28:57.840 If you say that Finnish values are connected to Christianity, it means all pagan Finns are not Finns anymore.

00:29:04.280 Right.

00:29:04.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:05.560 No, it's absolutely right.

00:29:07.180 That is true.

00:29:07.960 And it serves, excuse me, serves the purpose, too, I think, that you have to have someone that also then keeps, and okay, granted, you know, if you're not large enough or significant to get votes enough, maybe the other parties don't care ultimately.

00:29:22.580 But I think there's something to say for the comfort aspect, right?

00:29:25.980 Because we've seen overall there are now political ideas all over Europe, all over the white Western world, where are now being discussed that was just total taboo, obviously, like 10 years ago, like remigration, for example.

00:29:39.060 And it doesn't, of course, mean that some of these political parties, although you might have politicians within it say things like this, that might not mean that they actually are going to do something about it.

00:29:47.800 But it shows a trend in the right direction.

00:29:51.360 But you also have that interesting aspect of even a smaller party have that ability to put pressure of sorts on the other party or maybe make them feel that like, well, now we're not the extreme ones in the bunch.

00:30:04.500 You see what I'm saying?

00:30:05.060 And that frees up a little bit of that space for them to potentially start advancing their ideas a little bit and some of their talking points and saying, well, this is now just kind of normal discourse.

00:30:15.320 It's we have political parties that are talking, they're running on these types of issues like remigration and restoring, you know, Finland for the Finnish people and things like this.

00:30:23.940 So it serves a great purpose, I think, even if it's not like, obviously, your end goal is to take power in Finland, but that doesn't mean in the meantime, until you've done that, that there's nothing of value of it, right?

00:30:35.160 I also think that the environment around us has become far more easier in the last five years, because when the blue and black movement were first registered, there was many headlines that the party is a neo-Nazi, anti-Jewish political party.

00:30:54.800 And the anti-Jewish or anti-Zionist is something that is really new in the Finnish parliamentary system, because most of the political parties are not, doesn't have strong opinions about Israel or about Jewish minority, because there is hardly 1,500 Jews in Finland altogether.

00:31:15.360 And nowadays, you can see that they are like the main headlines, what's your opinion about Israel, how do you stop genocide going on, on Gaza?

00:31:31.040 And five years ago, we were told that we are conspiracy theorists or we are like Nazi lunatics, because we are so obsessed about Jews.

00:31:41.240 But now, five years later, everything has changed, now the comments are, you are agreeing with the left alliance, your views on Israel is the same as the left wings, so are you a leftist party?

00:31:54.960 I said, well, if that means that we are opposing the Zionist control, yes, we can be a leftist party, so we are not lunatics anymore, we are more or less like something that is not conservative right.

00:32:07.760 So it means that we are becoming more and more mainstream all the time, and also racial politics are far easier to promote at the moment, because this leftist new wave started promoting these people of color kind of identity or mixed Finn identity in Finland in the last five years.

00:32:31.760 The race was really difficult question to the Finns, because most of the enemies of the Finnish nation has been other whites, as you know, the Russian Russians, like in all European nations, that's why European people normally doesn't use white as their definition, right?

00:32:50.760 But because we share the same kind of leftist cancer or liberal cancer going on in Finland as in all Western nations, we have the same narrative, like Finland is a white supremacist country, our universities are too white, our police forces are too white.

00:33:09.760 So it was our enemies that promoted the white identity. 0.96

00:33:14.760 It was far easier for us to say, there is nothing wrong being white, you can be proud of being white. 0.96

00:33:21.760 And when we were, you know, organizing the party, there were many people complaining that why you are using the term white, because it's unfinished.

00:33:31.760 It's an European way of defining yourself.

00:33:32.760 It's an European way of defining yourself.

00:33:36.760 And I said, it will be one of the most important way of defining yourself when the multiculturalism progresses.

00:33:44.760 And it happened.

00:33:45.760 So we were foreseeing the future.

00:33:48.760 Yeah, no, that's, that's true.

00:33:50.760 Yeah.

00:33:51.760 Whether we like it or not, that's kind of how those who hate us see us, right?

00:33:55.760 They don't care what ethnicity we are.

00:33:57.760 If you walked down the street in Chicago, they would just see you as a white man.

00:34:01.760 I mean, they wouldn't know that you're a Finn necessarily, you know what I mean?

00:34:04.760 Like that.

00:34:05.760 So that's just kind of how it goes.

00:34:07.760 Of course, that doesn't mean we have to lose our ethnicity or forget about that.

00:34:10.760 But your identity is like an, like an onion.

00:34:12.760 You know what I mean?

00:34:13.760 Your family is your core.

00:34:14.760 And then I extended from there is your extended maybe community or network or extended family.

00:34:18.760 Then it's maybe even regional, the area that you're from.

00:34:21.760 There's nuances in between that.

00:34:23.760 Then it's your national identity.

00:34:24.760 But we do need, for the lack of a better term, a pan-Western, pan-European, like wherever, wherever you are, wherever Europeans are.

00:34:31.760 The European diaspora, of course, Australia, America, New Zealand, et cetera, South Africa.

00:34:36.760 There is a common heritage there.

00:34:39.760 And that's not a bad idea to have a pan-European consciousness to add on to it.

00:34:43.760 That we also need to stop with our internal squabbles and then start cooperating more.

00:34:48.760 Because we're in a world now where you have billions of Chinese and billions of Indians and all these other ethnic groups.

00:34:55.760 African, sub-Saharan Africans are growing in their numbers or whatnot.

00:34:58.760 And white people, Europeans, is just a small minority now globally, right?

00:35:04.760 Yes, I think people should understand that even though they are really keen on their own nation state, as I am.

00:35:11.760 And I also think that there is only 5 million Finns and hundreds of millions of whites.

00:35:17.760 So if we promote open immigration only to white people, it means that Finnish people will be minority in their own country.

00:35:26.760 So that's why I oppose immigration even from the other European states because of that.

00:35:31.760 Because Finland is small and Germany, for example, is large or Russia.

00:35:36.760 But we must understand that we are facing the same problems and the same enemy.

00:35:42.760 I mean, it can be Latvia, it can be Finland, it can be Portugal.

00:35:47.760 They use the same narrative like the society will not survive without racial immigrants, without diversity, without gay rights and that kind of stuff.

00:36:01.760 It doesn't need any like real historical colonial background behind it.

00:36:06.760 It can be smallest European nation and still they push the same agenda and same narrative that those people are somehow inherently evil if they try to maintain their own white homeland. 0.86

00:36:20.760 So that's why I think that we should not like try to separate ourselves from the larger white family. 0.93

00:36:29.760 Because if all other European countries will fall, the Finland will not survive by alone, even though we would have great victory here.

00:36:38.760 But all other countries are speaking like Middle Eastern languages in the future.

00:36:44.760 It means that they will invade us.

00:36:46.760 Europe will survive only if all European nations survive, I think.

00:36:52.760 Yeah.

00:36:53.760 No, I agree.

00:36:54.760 Definitely.

00:36:55.760 So, obviously, I want to talk general so people understand, you know, what's immigration in Finland like, you know, how many do we have and whatnot.

00:37:04.760 But I do want to try to squeeze it.

00:37:06.760 It's a big topic, obviously.

00:37:07.760 But Finland joined NATO.

00:37:09.760 Yeah, go ahead.

00:37:10.760 I'll give you some statistics.

00:37:12.760 Okay, yeah.

00:37:13.760 Let's do this first.

00:37:14.760 Go ahead.

00:37:15.760 I think many of the people from Americans especially think that Finland is really like,

00:37:23.760 Uber white.

00:37:25.760 Uber white, like really monoracial society.

00:37:28.760 But it's not.

00:37:29.760 When I was born in 1990, 35 years ago, there was 0.4% of people that spoke some other language than Swedish, Finnish or Sámi.

00:37:42.760 0.4%.

00:37:43.760 I think it was something like 35,000 people.

00:37:46.760 Most of them were refugees from Vietnam or that kind of stuff.

00:37:51.760 And, of course, some Estonian, Russian and such.

00:37:56.760 Just 35 years ago, we were practically pure Finnish nation.

00:38:01.760 Because we were, during the Cold War, our borders were more or less shut.

00:38:06.760 It was really difficult to move to Finland or gain Finnish citizenship.

00:38:11.760 And the country is, in the 1990s, about 5 million people is about 5.5 now.

00:38:17.760 So people know how, you know, what a small population is compared to some other countries.

00:38:21.760 Yeah, go ahead.

00:38:22.760 I think it was under 5 million.

00:38:24.760 It was more like 4.6 or something.

00:38:27.760 But still, let's go on.

00:38:29.760 Yep.

00:38:30.760 Nowadays, we have around 650,000 immigrants.

00:38:34.760 So during my lifetime, there has been over 600,000 people that have came to Finland.

00:38:44.760 And nowadays, we are receiving around 60,000, 70,000 people annually.

00:38:50.760 And they are not like refugees, like the populists usually want to criticize.

00:38:57.760 They are like, they are those who come in with the work permits or who are international students.

00:39:03.760 So they are the ones who are paying the taxes and doing the work that the Finns don't want to do. 1.00

00:39:08.760 You know, the story.

00:39:11.760 And if you want to compare that number, is it large or not?

00:39:15.760 70,000 people, it's two times as much as they are Finnish newborns.

00:39:21.760 Yeah, that is a lot.

00:39:23.760 Yes.

00:39:24.760 So within the population of newborns, 17% are immigrant background.

00:39:32.760 And when you add those 70,000 that are 100% non-Finnish, you will get the real number.

00:39:42.760 It means that we are receiving one large city of non-Finnish people every year. 0.82

00:39:48.760 Yeah.

00:39:49.760 And the absolute number of the Finnish people, Finnish population peaked in 2014.

00:39:57.760 And after that, every year, the number of Finns have decreased.

00:40:02.760 Yeah.

00:40:03.760 So it means that the previous 11 years, there has been less and less Finns.

00:40:08.760 At the same time, the population is growing.

00:40:11.760 It's the same thing as in Sweden, as in Great Britain, that 100% of the population growth comes from the immigration.

00:40:18.760 And the Finnish fertility rate is so low that there is some estimation that if nothing drastically will improve in the future, in the near future, there will be only 1 million Finns after 100 years.

00:40:35.760 Hmm.

00:40:36.760 Jeez.

00:40:37.760 So it's looking really bad at the moment.

00:40:39.760 It's an existential problem.

00:40:41.760 Yes, absolutely.

00:40:42.760 And it needs to be addressed.

00:40:43.760 But now it might look like, well, there's still a lot of Finns around or whatnot.

00:40:47.760 But like that, that changes very, very quickly.

00:40:50.760 As you said, I mean, two decades later, and all of a sudden, it's like, wait, we're like approaching 50%.

00:40:54.760 Another decade or two goes by.

00:40:56.760 Now you're like, you know, 30%, essentially.

00:40:58.760 Massive problem.

00:41:00.760 Yes, there's still some differences between the Sweden and Finland that the population with immigrant background, they are mostly living in five largest cities.

00:41:13.760 If something bad would happen to the five largest cities, it will take away 95% of the immigrants. 1.00

00:41:20.760 So there is still many smaller cities and smaller towns that are completely white. 0.99

00:41:25.760 And many of those cities and towns are like 30 minutes away from the larger cities.

00:41:31.760 So if you are Finnish and you want to live around other Finns, it's still possible to have all white schools and all white cities. 0.93

00:41:40.760 But it means that you can't live in larger cities anymore.

00:41:43.760 Right.

00:41:44.760 I think this kind of a division between the like rural areas and larger cities will more or less lead to white separation in the future.

00:41:54.760 Because the larger cities will be unlivable for the white people in the future. 1.00

00:42:03.760 And it's already happening in Helsinki.

00:42:06.760 I think there has been population decrease.

00:42:08.760 There has been more people moving out of Helsinki than moving in to Helsinki.

00:42:15.760 Yeah.

00:42:16.760 I wonder why.

00:42:17.760 Yes.

00:42:18.760 I think many Finns are thinking that there is no use of using 260,000 euros for an apartment that has only 20 square meters.

00:42:28.760 Right.

00:42:29.760 It's not Finnish way of living. 1.00

00:42:30.760 Yeah.

00:42:31.760 No.

00:42:32.760 And especially after the Covid epidemic, I think many Finns were thinking that they want to live in rural areas.

00:42:39.760 There was like little population transfer going on.

00:42:44.760 Many people left cities and moved to cheaper locations.

00:42:48.760 Yeah.

00:42:49.760 Like one hour or 30 minutes away.

00:42:51.760 And because many companies were using this remote work during Covid, many people were thinking that, well, we can live outside of the city because I don't have to attend to the factory anymore.

00:43:02.760 Yeah.

00:43:03.760 Right.

00:43:04.760 Or to the office anymore.

00:43:05.760 Yeah.

00:43:06.760 So I think, of course, we are going to win at the end.

00:43:12.760 Obviously.

00:43:13.760 But we will see the complete transformation of the largest Finnish cities to something purely non-Finnic.

00:43:19.760 And then.

00:43:20.760 Before we reach to the point.

00:43:22.760 And then it needs to be.

00:43:23.760 Yeah, go ahead.

00:43:24.760 Yeah.

00:43:25.760 And if you go to those cities for especially for Americans who want to visit Helsinki, you will see many like shops around with some ads and you have like international brands, but you will hardly see any Finnish words.

00:43:45.760 Interesting.

00:43:46.760 Yeah.

00:43:47.760 Same as.

00:43:48.760 Yes.

00:43:49.760 Everything is in English.

00:43:50.760 So if you take photos from some certain Finnish larger cities, it's impossible to say from which country.

00:43:59.760 Yeah.

00:44:00.760 Exactly.

00:44:01.760 Because it has the same brands, the same brown people, and there is nothing Finnish in those areas. 0.94

00:44:06.760 Global Homo.

00:44:07.760 That's why we call it that.

00:44:08.760 Yes.

00:44:09.760 Yeah.

00:44:10.760 Yes.

00:44:11.760 So the Global Homo have a grip in Finland also, but luckily only in the five largest cities so far. 0.94

00:44:17.760 And then, of course, with exposure, you do get that awareness of these things, right?

00:44:23.760 If you live isolated and partially that's kind of how they caught us off guard of sorts.

00:44:28.760 No, no.

00:44:29.760 We'll just be a few.

00:44:30.760 They're going to help work.

00:44:31.760 They'll find.

00:44:32.760 They'll adapt.

00:44:33.760 They'll integrate or whatever, you know, the word is.

00:44:35.760 Of course, as we know, as they grow in number, now they bring their culture, their traditions, their temperament, their languages, their cuisine, everything with them.

00:44:43.760 And now it becomes colonies of their own countries of where they're from, obviously.

00:44:48.760 The last two years there has been a really active discussion, even in the press about the Finnish school system, because Finland was like one of the best performing PISA countries, as you know.

00:45:03.760 And now something happened and Estonia and Poland and all those rich nations go far above Finland nowadays.

00:45:11.760 Yeah.

00:45:12.760 So they found out that even though the quality of the Finnish students of pupils are not the same as it was during the late 90s, it's also that those schools with the majority immigrant background pupils, they, of course, were the worst schools. 1.00

00:45:33.760 And you could easily see that in those areas where there was fewer number of Finns, there were fewer points also in the tests.

00:45:42.760 And when this was published, these headlines that the more diverse the school is, the worse points it will get, many of those who were voting for Green Party or National Coalition or those like liberal parties,

00:46:02.760 they were thinking that I will never put my child to those schools.

00:46:07.760 So even though they were voting for more immigration, they moved away from those areas, from those school districts where there were too many of the immigrants. 0.98

00:46:17.760 So we are like having this kind of schizophrenic reality that people know that they would never accept that kind of vibrant diverse environment for their kids.

00:46:32.760 But they would definitely give that environment for the poor Finnish child that is not there. 0.99

00:46:38.760 So it was a completely selfish idea. All this white flight phenomenon is not like racists are moving away from the immigrants.

00:46:49.760 It's those who voted for the immigrants that are now moving away to the racist areas.

00:46:56.760 Yeah. And then there is some, there was one head of the school faculty in Helsinki who said that there should be like forced school districts that you can't escape from.

00:47:12.760 And I was thinking that maybe you can't, well, you can't move, you can't move basically that that sort of.

00:47:18.760 Yes. Even though you move, your child would be in that school.

00:47:22.760 They even had the idea of losing people, you know, balancing the population between the schools.

00:47:28.760 Well, Sweden is talking about that now, right?

00:47:30.760 We need to blend out the population. 1.00

00:47:32.760 The social Democrat policy was the same thing we need to like because they understand that this is not working.

00:47:37.760 And again, long term benefits of that, of course, is better.

00:47:40.760 Like it's better to have them separate.

00:47:42.760 I don't want their sons to marry our daughters. 1.00

00:47:44.760 I don't want us to disappear.

00:47:46.760 So, you know, integration is under the bad conditions we're in is the worst outcome, actually.

00:47:53.760 I totally agree.

00:47:55.760 I think it's far better for us that those people are illiterate. 0.95

00:48:00.760 They have their really weird religious habits. 0.99

00:48:04.760 They don't want to associate with white people. 0.96

00:48:07.760 Better for us.

00:48:08.760 Yes. 0.60

00:48:09.760 I would love to give them own schools and own daycares, whatever they want, as long as they don't meddle with the white people. 1.00

00:48:17.760 Of course, before their emigration, but still like short term.

00:48:23.760 Short term, exactly. Short term plans, actually.

00:48:25.760 Yep, absolutely.

00:48:26.760 Are Finns generally aware of this and the demographic trends?

00:48:31.760 And if the current trends do continue, this is the outcome within, you know, 80 to 100 years from now, would you say?

00:48:37.760 That's hard to answer, obviously, but.

00:48:40.760 Well, it's not conspiracy theory anymore because mainstream media even made headlines about the shrinking population.

00:48:47.760 And they had these forecasts that if the immigration continues, what happens in the, for example, next 50 years.

00:48:56.760 But the main question or the main problem with this issue is that it will give some responsibilities to the adult people.

00:49:03.760 And some Finnish feminists, for example, complained that all these kind of discussions make them feel bad because if they don't want to have children, you should not accuse us for being selfish or for destroying the Finnish society.

00:49:20.760 It's our party. It's our right. You know, you have the same kind of people in Sweden also.

00:49:25.760 So even though everyone was not everyone, but many people somehow agree that there is some problems with the immigration and in the multicultural system, they don't want to fix the problem because the liberalism was the reason why it happened.

00:49:42.760 So we need to get rid of the liberalism to fix it. And that is something that those middle class Finns don't want to do. They want to continue their way of living, even though it's destroying the society. 1.00

00:49:58.760 Yes, exactly. Now, we are going to. So I think the main problem is now the selfishness of the people. It's not only the rising immigration population. 1.00

00:50:14.760 And even some left wing people say that, well, because our opportunity rate is so low, that's why we need immigration. Right. Yeah. 1.00

00:50:23.760 So they have already accepted that they will be replaced.

00:50:27.760 Well, I think that that kind of mentality is really toxic. Yeah. Defeatists.

00:50:32.760 Yeah. If any black people or Kurdish people or exotic people have that kind of ideas, those same leftist woman would say anything to prove them wrong and say that, no, you must raise a family. 1.00

00:50:50.760 And I hope that you will get many beautiful children, but at least not for me.

00:50:56.760 Yeah, no, exactly. Well, I think that's a losing, you know, demographic also attitude, I guess, to a certain extent, right, that their children, hopefully, as they grow up, unless they're mixed, obviously, but they're like, they want a Finland that they knew existed. 0.98

00:51:13.760 They want a Sweden that they knew existed. And it's catching, I'm not saying by any means that it's a majority yet, but it's definitely catching on.

00:51:20.760 And as you said, I mean, over the last five years, even these talking points have become much more acceptable in political discourse, much more mainstream is not talking about this.

00:51:30.760 Right. And let me guess, in Sweden, you have the same kind of narrative as in Finland, that there is not a Sweden nation or Sweden folk that needs to be defended because you have always been mixed.

00:51:47.760 Right. I think you have heard this kind of, of course, it's just, you know, different tribes that made made Sweden as it is.

00:51:57.760 But still, it's the same story. Yeah. And there is no Portuguese people. 0.99

00:52:02.760 There is no Swedish people. There's no Latvian people, Lithuanian people. They are all mixed. 1.00

00:52:06.760 And of course, the same story goes on Finland also, because even though the language is really old, even though there hasn't been immigration waves to Finland for thousands of years, when the Finnish tribes arrived to the current Finnish soil,

00:52:29.760 still we have the same narrative that we are mixed and there has always been population mixed.

00:52:35.760 So what's the problem for having some blood from Somalia or from Arabia or from Maghreb countries?

00:52:43.760 And they even say that there's a huge problem with inbreeding within the Finnish society.

00:52:48.760 So that's why we need to bring people that married their cousins. 1.00

00:52:52.760 Exactly. That will revitalize our genetics somehow. 0.96

00:52:57.760 The funny part is that we were a peasant country, peasant nation.

00:53:03.760 That's why there was not like a great number of rich families that wanted to, you know, marry themselves to keep the riches within the family.

00:53:16.760 The peasant population in Finland were really free to marry whatever they wanted because there was not money. 0.96

00:53:23.760 Every family was as poor. So that's why there were hardly any cousin marriages.

00:53:29.760 It was really rare to have that kind of marriage in Finland.

00:53:33.760 So we are bringing people who have been marrying their cousins for the last 600, 700 years.

00:53:42.760 And then we are bringing them to Finland. And we say that this blood will more or less save us.

00:53:48.760 It's ridiculous. 0.89

00:53:50.760 People with more diseases, people with lower IQ, people with, you know, greater number of mutations and that kind of stuff. 0.98

00:53:59.760 But they don't care. Even though you try to argue with them, they just say that, well, I'm not interested.

00:54:05.760 Or there is not any races. We are all the same.

00:54:07.760 If we are all the same, why we need immigration? 0.98

00:54:10.760 Or if we are all the same, what is the component that makes us diverse?

00:54:14.760 Right, exactly. And of course, it should be mentioned, too, as we do get more technologically advanced or whatnot, there's other means and methods now.

00:54:23.760 I mean, we're right at the cusp of having automation as opposed to bringing people that, for the most part, anyway, don't actually go to work.

00:54:29.760 And even someone brought up, which was a good point, right? Even the potential then, you know, from their point of view, right, the added benefit of bringing in, you know, cheap labor or whatnot,

00:54:40.760 then that's good for the corporations and that now they can make more money or something.

00:54:44.760 Their extended family, again, are welfare dependent in the most part.

00:54:48.760 And they actually, there's a net, you know, negative, a drain on Finnish, Swedish, German, French, whatever society that you have.

00:54:57.760 And it ends up costing us more. Now you have social, you know, upheaval, there's disruption, disruptions as you begin removing this, you know, cohesion and the ethnic homogeneity that's there. 0.84

00:55:09.760 I mean, again, I showed a graph there, right? Finland is like topping the Mensa chart of being, you know, among the top 10 countries with the most genius per capita.

00:55:17.760 Somehow with our inbred genetics, we managed to pull this off.

00:55:21.760 It's just like, this doesn't make sense at all.

00:55:24.760 In fact, given the circumstances of how few we are in many of these countries, right, in many small European nations, it's remarkable what we have managed to achieve.

00:55:35.760 And now they're removing those very things, right? So if prosperity or even economics was one of the arguments, that doesn't even make sense, right?

00:55:47.760 Well, I think it's the quality over quantity.

00:55:50.760 Yes, exactly. Yes.

00:55:52.760 And even though people are complaining that the Finnish population is shrinking, I think most of our history has been, you know, the number of the Finnish people were not over 400,000 for hundreds of years.

00:56:08.760 Exactly. Our population were really small.

00:56:11.760 And it was just like a middle of the 19th century when there was like population explosion going on.

00:56:17.760 And we had our first million and second million and third million and so on.

00:56:25.760 We would survive even with a couple of hundred of thousands of people, but we will not survive if we need to, you know, share this soil with millions of non-Finnic people. 1.00

00:56:37.760 The minority will always get wiped out, especially if the fertility rate is really low.

00:56:43.760 So I think that if we just, you know, send those people away and shut our borders, we could easily survive this upcoming 20 or 30 years of population shrinking. 0.97

00:57:00.760 Because it means that those families that will have children, they are more politically motivated than their parents.

00:57:10.760 So most of the people who have any kind of

00:57:15.760 genetical drift towards breeding, it means that most of the new kids will come to those families.

00:57:21.760 Yeah.

00:57:22.760 And those, you know, those families that promoted education and career more than having babies, they will be wiped out from the genetic pool.

00:57:33.760 So it doesn't mean that all the people are in the next two or three generations would be geniuses, but they will be the one who will have children.

00:57:44.760 Indeed.

00:57:45.760 It's the nature that is fixing the problem that the human has made.

00:57:50.760 Yeah, I think we've always been like that, too, in the north.

00:57:53.760 Like, we like our space, wilderness, forests, expansive nature.

00:57:58.760 That's how we've always been.

00:58:00.760 These massive population centers.

00:58:03.760 I don't think anyone is as truly comfortable in those environments, to be honest.

00:58:07.760 Yeah, and I just meant that even though you showed the statistics about the high IQ, I also say that if the high IQ means that you will not make children, it's not only good thing for the population.

00:58:22.760 Right.

00:58:23.760 Because only the one who breeds will, you know, survive. 1.00

00:58:28.760 Yep, exactly.

00:58:29.760 Yep.

00:58:30.760 All those genes that make you really smart, but doesn't make you create your own offspring means that they will die out.

00:58:38.760 Yeah.

00:58:39.760 So how smart are they then?

00:58:40.760 Right.

00:58:41.760 Yeah.

00:58:42.760 If you don't even have that down, exactly.

00:58:44.760 No, it's a good point.

00:58:45.760 Let me take a couple of super chats here.

00:58:47.760 We're going to take a break in a little bit.

00:58:48.760 I want to keep talking with you in part two about, you know, I want to pick your brain about how the FinC, the NATO membership that just happened in April back in.

00:58:57.760 Yeah, sure.

00:58:58.760 And I must tell you, after the break, one of the funniest campaigns that is promoting multiculturalism in Finland.

00:59:06.760 Okay, yeah, go ahead.

00:59:07.760 Yeah, it was launched the previous year, but we can do it after the break.

00:59:11.760 Okay, sounds good.

00:59:12.760 Let me take a couple of super chats here.

00:59:13.760 Albert sends a big one here.

00:59:14.760 Thank you so much, Albert.

00:59:15.760 He says, Hi, Henrik.

00:59:16.760 Going to watch this later.

00:59:17.760 Very busy today, I can imagine.

00:59:19.760 You guys rock.

00:59:20.760 Thank you, Albert, so much.

00:59:21.760 That's incredible.

00:59:22.760 Thank you so much for your support, Albert.

00:59:24.760 We have one from a Zionist cuck here as well that says, We need to become Kaleviopeg or slash Kalevala once again to drive out these hook-nose ideologies. 0.87

00:59:37.760 Tervist, hello, from an Estneopolk here, slash Henrik. 0.98

00:59:42.760 Well, thank you.

00:59:43.760 That's very nice of you.

00:59:45.760 And I agree, yes.

00:59:47.760 All right.

00:59:48.760 So, also, before we do take a break, though, Tuka, I do want to plug your stuff a little bit so people know where to find you.

00:59:55.760 If we have Finnish people tuning in, obviously, not only where they can follow you, but also the political party and how they can get engaged.

01:00:03.760 Do you accept new members, you know, involved, I guess is a better term.

01:00:06.760 Do you accept new members, you guys out there looking and scouting and trying to grow the party?

01:00:10.760 Tell us about this a little bit before the break here.

01:00:12.760 Yes, sure thing.

01:00:16.760 You are already showing my personal Twitter page, and I think it's the far largest at the moment.

01:00:24.760 Of course, we have also our official party account or party profile you can find on X.

01:00:32.760 And there's also provincial groups that have their own Twitter handles.

01:00:39.760 But we usually post videos of our events with some dramatic music and such.

01:00:47.760 And they can be found on YouTube.

01:00:49.760 So, if you want to see some videos about our activism, you should go to YouTube and write Sinimusta liike to the search bar.

01:01:00.760 And you will find those videos.

01:01:02.760 And I think one of the most interesting ones are from the May Day celebration, because there was like a huge scandal.

01:01:13.760 There were 200 or 300 antifas and over 100 nationalists.

01:01:18.760 And there were some fist fighting and there were flares and police were shooting with their non-lethal weapons to the crowd.

01:01:26.760 And it was massive, it was wonderful.

01:01:29.760 I really liked those kind of events.

01:01:31.760 Right.

01:01:32.760 Yeah, exactly.

01:01:33.760 Yeah, here we go.

01:01:34.760 I can pull this in here real quick so people can see it.

01:01:36.760 This is the main channel, I believe here, right?

01:01:38.760 Or is it two mimicked?

01:01:39.760 Is this the one?

01:01:41.760 I think this is the one, right?

01:01:43.760 There's like two channels.

01:01:45.760 Now I'm confused.

01:01:47.760 Is it the top one?

01:01:49.760 Do you know which one it is?

01:01:50.760 Are those two?

01:01:51.760 I mean, both maybe.

01:01:52.760 I don't know.

01:01:53.760 It's a little bit pixelated.

01:01:54.760 Oh, sorry about that.

01:01:55.760 Okay.

01:01:56.760 Okay.

01:01:57.760 Maybe this is the one here.

01:01:58.760 But anyway, we got it there.

01:01:59.760 We can add it, of course, down below in the description as well.

01:02:02.760 Black and blue.

01:02:03.760 That's the name of the party right there.

01:02:05.760 Very good.

01:02:06.760 And then make sure you follow Tuka, of course, on his personal Twitter there as well to keep up.

01:02:10.760 You've got a blog on, is that a local paper?

01:02:12.760 The blog, blog it, this source here.

01:02:15.760 Is that a local paper?

01:02:20.760 It's like right leaning or conservative leaning web page.

01:02:28.760 Where is my personal blog?

01:02:30.760 And I have wrote that blog, I think, since 2016 or 2017.

01:02:37.760 So it was far before I ever started the party.

01:02:41.760 And usually I publish something that is not party related on that channel.

01:02:45.760 For example, there is an interview with Jared Taylor and with another Awakening speakers.

01:02:52.760 And they are in Finnish and in English.

01:02:54.760 So if you are interested about those interviews, you should check them also.

01:02:58.760 Okay.

01:02:59.760 Very good.

01:03:00.760 All right, guys.

01:03:01.760 So we're going to take a short little break here.

01:03:03.760 And then we're going to continue.

01:03:04.760 NATO.

01:03:05.760 EU.

01:03:06.760 I'm going to talk about Russia.

01:03:07.760 What's going on with Russia?

01:03:08.760 How does Finland kind of see that or whatnot in part two?

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01:05:16.760 All right, Tuka, we'll take a quick little break here then.

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01:05:25.760 Yes.

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Red Ice TV - June 25, 2025

The Struggle For Finland - Tuukka Kuru

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