Red Ice TV - August 25, 2025


Tommy Robinson's Paradox： Opposing White Replacement While Fighting Ethnonationalists (!？)

Topics
white nationalism white nationalism inconsistency
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Henrik Palmgren Lana Lokteff
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Tommy Robinson Africans Sikh Nigel Farage Jared Taylor Steve Laws
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Tommy Robinson has finally addressed the issue of white demographic decline in the UK, and he's got a plan to deal with it. The problem is, nobody else is talking about it. And the only people who are talking about this are white nationalists.

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00:00:00.000 After calling patriotic alternative racist for warning about catastrophic demographic changes in the UK, Tommy Robinson is now talking about how white demographics is the biggest issue.
00:00:13.640 So unless you actually have this conversation and actually address the general public fears, you leave the only people talking about this as ethno-nationalists.
00:00:21.860 And ethno-nationalists are growing in number, growing in confidence, and if they're the only people addressing this specific topic of the conversation, then you leave people to join them, listen to them, and be radicalized by them.
00:00:34.620 So right there, he's worried about the popularity of ethno-nationalists, and he's admitting that he needs to gatekeep so that, you know, other people don't get roped in and become extremists.
00:00:43.920 But what's extreme about preserving your people so that they're the majority in your country?
00:00:50.720 So in his view, he's viewing ethno-nationals, people like us, extreme because we're talking about mass deportations of lots of non-whites, not just Islamics, as he will get into.
00:01:02.400 And of course, we point out, you know, Jewish power and Jewish influence, which helped create this entire mess. 1.00
00:01:07.860 He's forced to address these issues, as he correctly points out the worries of whites becoming a minority in Britain here, you know, shortly in the clip.
00:01:17.600 But then at the same time, well, what's your solution then?
00:01:21.620 What do you do if you don't advocate for white people to organize, get together, and resolve this issue by starting to take back power and start deporting people? 0.68
00:01:30.180 There's no way you can do it.
00:01:31.080 But the point is, as you said, the reason, the main issue here is because we also look at who's responsible for creating these conditions from the wars to the open borders advocates, basically.
00:01:41.720 He's very tied in with that tribe.
00:01:43.620 They've given him lots of money.
00:01:46.280 And, you know, that tribe sees that, yeah, ethno-nationalism is rising.
00:01:50.880 It's becoming more popular.
00:01:52.320 We need to get in there.
00:01:53.280 We need to, you know, these civic nationalist talking points aren't working anymore.
00:01:57.900 So we need our gatekeepers in there to kind of derail this raw, powerful energy of rising white nationalism.
00:02:04.680 They can't stop it.
00:02:05.780 So let's throw our guys in front of there to twist and lead it. 1.00
00:02:09.200 But they're always Zionists, like Tommy Robinson. 1.00
00:02:12.100 So I had to bring Benjamin Netum Black Palestine and can't remember his name.
00:02:18.040 And then I got my Zionist card out, which said, I am a Zionist.
00:02:20.980 And I bought everything. 0.99
00:02:24.380 Shalom, my f***er. 0.98
00:02:26.340 If there was a war and it kicked off, I would be there on the front line fighting for Israel. 0.99
00:02:34.820 Shalom.
00:02:35.660 Shalom, everybody. 0.80
00:02:36.380 If you could just please send a kind donation to TR News to help us wipe out the white race. 1.00
00:02:45.000 One thing we're not talking about as a society that we really should be.
00:02:49.040 Demographics.
00:02:50.780 By 2041, white British are a minority in Britain.
00:02:54.600 That's not acceptable.
00:02:56.040 It's just not acceptable.
00:02:57.320 Same way we'll be.
00:02:57.920 It's also not acceptable to the ethno-nationalists.
00:03:00.520 And they're the ones who've been talking about this.
00:03:01.760 And they've all this time said, don't worry about it.
00:03:04.200 That's not the problem.
00:03:05.040 We're a multicultural nation and stuff.
00:03:07.860 So it's interesting and fascinating that they recognize and kind of openly even address it like this.
00:03:12.920 As opposed to just saying, let's just talk about the issues and avoid even bringing up the ethno-nationalist into the conversation.
00:03:19.940 But that shows you that he's either very low IQ or just a total spurg. 0.99
00:03:25.200 I mean, we know he's dishonest. 0.97
00:03:26.820 We know that.
00:03:27.380 And there's drugs and alcohol involved as well.
00:03:29.080 Yeah, there's all kinds of problems.
00:03:30.380 But he says, nobody's been talking about it.
00:03:33.060 This is the biggest issue.
00:03:33.740 Like, yeah, a lot of people are talking about it. 0.99
00:03:35.380 And you've been calling them racists and white supremacists and all this other crap anyway. 0.99
00:03:39.800 Same way it wouldn't be acceptable if black Nigerians become a minority in Nigeria. 0.99
00:03:44.300 It's not acceptable.
00:03:44.840 It's something we need to look at.
00:03:45.980 We need to talk about massively.
00:03:47.500 Because no one wants to talk about it.
00:03:48.880 And we always hear, oh, it's a minority.
00:03:50.400 It's a minority.
00:03:50.920 It's a minority.
00:03:51.580 No, it's not.
00:03:52.280 Not anymore.
00:03:53.100 And when it becomes a majority in towns and cities, the minority rights that protected them are not protecting our English kids.
00:03:59.180 So it's not good.
00:04:01.120 So I think that the demographical change in towns and cities and the projected growth forecast birth rate accelerate.
00:04:07.280 I see even Nigel Farge now saying he's going to get rid of the two cap for benefits.
00:04:11.080 No, you need to keep the two cap for benefits.
00:04:13.060 My local imam's got 14 kids with three wives. 0.98
00:04:15.220 I don't want to pay for that.
00:04:15.920 And the Islamic community, if you look at the birth rate and the demographical change compared to the black community, the Hindu community, the Sikh community, there's no explosion in demographical change.
00:04:25.100 Oh, all of them.
00:04:25.620 All of them are having kids.
00:04:27.180 And they're all a problem. 0.99
00:04:28.180 So he admits white demographics is a problem. 0.96
00:04:31.280 So we're ethno-nationalists. 0.99
00:04:32.440 We're like, great, let's deport all of them. 0.99
00:04:34.280 White nationalism now. 0.99
00:04:35.700 And then he's like, oh, no, but we can't have that. 0.99
00:04:37.800 We just have to deport the Islamics. 1.00
00:04:40.760 That's the problem, right? 0.99
00:04:41.860 They are exploding, too, because the reason why they're exploding is because the borders are wide open.
00:04:49.540 There's more immigration now than ever, despite all the talk, despite everyone saying, oh, my gosh, what's happening?
00:04:56.320 Oh, what's his answer?
00:04:58.780 Talk about it.
00:05:00.340 Oh, yeah, let's just sit here and talk. 1.00
00:05:02.280 Talking about shit is not going to change anything. 1.00
00:05:04.480 Well, he's like, let's deport some Muslims. 1.00
00:05:06.560 But it's like, that's not going to make a dent in what's happening.
00:05:08.500 No, that's what I'm saying, because it's open borders, and it keeps happening.
00:05:11.920 There's a million people a year now coming into Britain.
00:05:14.420 A million a year.
00:05:15.920 And so he says here in a bit that he doesn't agree with ethno-nationalists, that they want to mass deport lots of non-whites.
00:05:22.880 Yeah, exactly.
00:05:23.500 Like, that is the answer.
00:05:24.840 Of course it is.
00:05:26.720 So, again, the issue here is he wants to keep talking about it to steal the thunder from ethno-nationalists so that they don't get a foot in because they offer solutions.
00:05:36.620 Well, this guy will just continue to placate.
00:05:39.400 And I'll bet you soon enough Farage is going to, oh, yeah, White's becoming a minority. 0.72
00:05:43.380 That is a problem.
00:05:44.000 He's denied that in the past.
00:05:45.460 But people like Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage, and just a slew of others.
00:05:49.820 Ten years later, they're coming around.
00:05:51.320 Which is, so the ten more years can go by and nothing is being done.
00:05:54.940 The closing democratic change in this country is Islamic birth rate and Islamic immigration. 1.00
00:06:00.180 No, that's not the other problem.
00:06:01.160 We either stop it now or we're going to be in a situation where we can't.
00:06:04.840 So that now, we're running out of time.
00:06:07.560 We're running out of time.
00:06:08.680 I think we need direct democracy.
00:06:10.720 But by 2041, we lose on direct democracy.
00:06:13.540 He's been fighting and kicking and screaming all along the way and calling everyone names.
00:06:19.900 Well, he's got a wishy-washy.
00:06:21.300 There was a time when he talked about white replacement.
00:06:24.160 He, you know, read a speech.
00:06:26.000 But then he's just like wishy-washy all over the place.
00:06:28.020 I think, you know, the leash was put on him at some point as well with his, you know, Zionist funders who were given. 0.81
00:06:34.520 Remember the house, the cars, all the money he was getting.
00:06:38.400 Open your borders to Hindus or Sikhs. 1.00
00:06:40.260 They'll come and work hard and be great citizens in your country.
00:06:44.260 So happy Diwali.
00:06:45.680 Yeah, well, his job is to turn this into a Zionist Israeli first issue. 0.98
00:06:49.520 Muslims are a problem because the problem is not actually replacing whites, but using the energy. 1.00
00:06:55.240 White nationalism for Jews. 1.00
00:06:55.860 Exactly.
00:06:56.480 In disagreement with you, broadly speaking, but to a lot of people, it will sound like there's quite a bit of inconsistency with what you're saying.
00:07:03.220 On the one hand, you're saying, you know, black, white, Sikh, all great.
00:07:07.400 But then you're saying...
00:07:08.300 I'm saying that England is historically a white nation.
00:07:12.120 It is.
00:07:12.780 They cannot become a minority in the white nation.
00:07:14.760 Correct.
00:07:15.960 It just is.
00:07:16.660 And unless you talk about this, you leave it to the ethnics and the Nazis.
00:07:19.740 No, unless you do something about this.
00:07:22.000 You're leaving it to the ethno-nationalists.
00:07:24.060 And he's like, discuss it.
00:07:25.440 We're the bad guys in this.
00:07:27.120 The bad guys, yeah. 1.00
00:07:27.480 We're the ones who have been telling you this shit for a decade, dude. 1.00
00:07:31.240 Well, we were the bad guys because we said whites are going to be a minority and that's wrong. 1.00
00:07:35.760 Well, you're now saying whites are going to be a minority and that's wrong.
00:07:38.460 Yes.
00:07:38.660 What's the difference?
00:07:39.560 Yes.
00:07:39.700 If you don't deport, what do you do?
00:07:41.940 Stop, you know, stop the borders and deport or it's over, right? 0.63
00:07:45.520 The difference is, yeah.
00:07:46.960 White nationalism, we're not Zionists. 0.53
00:07:49.440 That's the difference.
00:07:51.000 Unless you address, because the majority of the public are worried by demographic change.
00:07:54.980 The majority.
00:07:55.980 It's not racist.
00:07:56.720 It's not racist to say that England has to remain a majority white country.
00:07:59.700 That's what you said.
00:08:00.500 Many, many, well, just a few years ago, you said that was racist.
00:08:03.000 It's not racist.
00:08:04.060 And exactly the same, like Japan. 0.69
00:08:06.340 And why worry about what's racist? 1.00
00:08:08.240 Fuck racism. 1.00
00:08:09.360 No one cares about that anymore. 1.00
00:08:10.640 The disclaimer, you know, the what if it was reverse thing, you know.
00:08:14.460 And the thing is, it's fine.
00:08:16.000 You can come around, but just own it and say, I was wrong.
00:08:19.520 I've never heard any of these people, you know, I apologize.
00:08:22.080 I was wrong because he's still being owned here. 0.99
00:08:24.100 He's still someone's bitch. 1.00
00:08:25.500 And otherwise, you would say, it's not authentic. 0.99
00:08:27.320 In fact, the only organizations I know that do talk, because he knows about them.
00:08:30.980 It's a patriotic alternative.
00:08:32.220 And I'm sorry.
00:08:33.140 I called them names.
00:08:34.140 They were telling me these things.
00:08:35.520 That doesn't happen.
00:08:36.500 That's when you know they're not authentic.
00:08:38.080 You know, Steve Laws, you know, at the time, he was part of the Homeland Party.
00:08:40.900 Yes, there's many other groups have talked about this, too.
00:08:42.880 But he fought them tooth and nail all along the way. 0.97
00:08:45.680 It's disgusting.
00:08:46.300 Should remain a majority Japanese nation. 0.95
00:08:48.520 If it was changing, how come it's only Western nations that have to accept this sort of diversity?
00:08:54.060 He's doing Jared Taylor arguments.
00:08:55.440 So unless you actually have this conversation and actually address the general public fears,
00:08:59.620 you leave the only people talking about this as ethno-nationalists.
00:09:03.340 Yes.
00:09:03.840 So talk about it so that they can't offer the solutions to it.
00:09:06.920 He's still disgusted by us.
00:09:08.280 That is the problem right there.
00:09:10.540 He's a gatekeeper.
00:09:12.200 Yes.
00:09:12.580 Nationalists are growing in number, growing in confidence.
00:09:14.740 And if they're the only people addressing this specific topic of the conversation,
00:09:19.180 then you leave people to join them, listen to them, and be radicalized by them.
00:09:24.260 But what I understand is what it's so it's radical.
00:09:27.080 Taking our country back is radical?
00:09:29.700 No, that's normalizing it.
00:09:31.080 This is restoring a...
00:09:32.580 Which he would agree with then, that it was wrong to do this.
00:09:35.640 The people were never asked, this would be the most rational and normal thing you could
00:09:40.200 essentially do. 0.89
00:09:41.860 Extremism is only on behalf of those who are trying to genocide white people. 0.97
00:09:45.320 Exactly. 0.96
00:09:45.480 That's where the extremism lies.
00:09:46.760 Extremism is letting it happen to us.
00:09:48.920 Yes.
00:09:49.160 The difference between their position and your position on this issue, you're kind of basically
00:09:53.100 saying the same thing, aren't you? 0.98
00:09:54.400 No, they're saying that non-whites need to be expelled from this country. 0.99
00:09:58.040 Yes. 0.99
00:09:58.220 All of them.
00:09:58.940 I'm saying that we need to address the Islamic demographic.
00:10:01.140 I believe we need re-migration of many of the so-called fake asylum seekers because they're 1.00
00:10:04.940 not asylum seekers.
00:10:05.740 That's not enough.
00:10:06.240 They've gone from 16 safe countries.
00:10:06.860 That's not enough.
00:10:07.420 And it's not just Muslims contributing to making your people a minority. 0.94
00:10:12.980 It's Africans, it's Pajits, it's all kinds of people coming in there now. 1.00
00:10:17.360 So he still wants them around to be like, so, okay, Tommy.
00:10:21.380 That's why the other guy's like, I'm getting mixed messages here.
00:10:23.680 Well, yeah, he's correct.
00:10:25.160 Okay, you want a white majority, it's a white nation, but you're okay with some of these 0.99
00:10:29.640 groups, but then this only, this one's the bad one?
00:10:32.940 No. 0.67
00:10:33.140 A rare W here for a Jewish kiss in here. 0.99
00:10:36.120 But anyway, so how, Tommy, are you going to say, okay, so whites can't become a minority.
00:10:43.320 Okay, so what can the Sikhs be?
00:10:44.520 12% and the Muslims can be 10% and the Africans are going to be 14%. 1.00
00:10:51.640 How are you going to keep, you're going to, no, the only solution is deport to them. 1.00
00:10:56.560 They have their own countries.
00:10:58.360 This England, United Kingdom is for the different ethnicities of white European people on that 0.62
00:11:03.700 island.
00:11:04.340 They've come to this country, any, all the foreign nationals in prison, 12,000 of them,
00:11:08.280 got to go.
00:11:09.420 Anyone on the jihadi watch list, got to go. 1.00
00:11:11.760 So there's still not enough, that's not enough, nothing.
00:11:15.360 White people are a minority in London, dude.
00:11:18.660 Yes.
00:11:19.100 Walk around, it's not just Muslims.
00:11:21.820 I'd stop the Qatari money.
00:11:23.620 I'd stop Iranian money. 0.98
00:11:24.840 There we go.
00:11:25.260 Stop it all.
00:11:26.040 And here we go.
00:11:26.920 Here's the bait, here's the bait and switch right there.
00:11:29.560 You know, it's the, it's the Qataris, you know. 1.00
00:11:32.400 He's, he's, he's doing, he's doing the meme.
00:11:35.000 He's doing the meme.
00:11:35.560 Okay.
00:11:36.120 Yep.
00:11:36.580 That's when all these people are, are inauthentic.
00:11:39.660 Well.
00:11:40.080 At the end of the day, they're, they're hijacking that raw, powerful energy that is there, that
00:11:44.700 truthful energy.
00:11:46.620 We, we, we, we call it, not because we're geniuses, because this is not hard at all.
00:11:50.400 In fact, it's the, the most base fundamental thing you can see and the trends what was happening.
00:11:56.220 But yes, it's, it's, um, get ahead of, well, they are actually behind the curve now, but
00:12:00.700 now they're trying to get ahead of the curve so they can derail.
00:12:03.680 No, no, no.
00:12:04.120 It's not about, you know, race.
00:12:05.480 It's not about like, well, yes, it is.
00:12:07.320 It is about race.
00:12:08.280 And 10 years from now, people are all going to realize that.
00:12:10.880 And there's going to be parties fighting in behalf of the white man.
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