Red Ice TV - UK Riots： Race Chaos, Violence & Police State With Mark Collett & Steve Laws

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00:03:31.980 Thanks for having me on.

00:03:32.940 Yeah, I'm all good.

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00:03:34.200 I was running in office in the last election.

00:03:36.980 I just haven't taken it off the website yet.

00:03:38.640 I've been a bit lazy, to be honest.

00:03:40.840 How did that go?

00:03:41.560 How did it go, the election for you?

00:03:48.960 Mark could tell you.

00:03:49.780 It was terrible, to be honest.

00:03:51.360 It was to be expected with Farajad and Reform running, but that's another story for another day.

00:03:56.820 That it is.

00:03:57.520 Okay, good stuff.

00:03:58.240 And of course, Mark Collett is here as well.

00:03:59.960 How are you doing, Mark?

00:04:00.760 Good to see you.

00:04:02.520 Hello.

00:04:03.040 It's good to be back.

00:04:04.140 It's always a highlight when I come on Red Ice.

00:04:07.660 I always really enjoy working with you.

00:04:09.760 Very professional setup, and it's great to see you guys going from strength to strength and covering, well, this important story, which just keeps running and running.

00:04:18.920 I mean, usually when these things happen, they tend to fizzle out after one weekend, but we're all the way into the middle of the week after, and things are still going, and apparently there are big plans at the weekend for protests.

00:04:34.460 And I'll say this, Patriotic Alternative have got a protest planned, too, this weekend.

00:04:39.040 Oh, great.

00:04:39.420 Let's talk about that, yeah, because it's been very interesting to watch this, because my argument has been this is inevitable.

00:04:47.540 This is what happens in a multiracial, multiethnic, multireligious society. 1.00

00:04:51.560 You can't run it any other way.

00:04:53.780 It's just, to me, it's amazing that it's taken this long, to be honest, but here we are, whether it's the latest stabbing of these three young girls in Southport that was the one that would kick it off or not.

00:05:06.260 It would have been the one the following week or a month later or a year later, perhaps, right?

00:05:12.140 But I just want to get, I guess, some just initial impressions from you guys, because these things, one of the arguments I've been making is that these things are, you know, chaotic, right?

00:05:21.660 There's going to be a shit show in every kind of capacity.

00:05:25.060 There's going to be people coming in.

00:05:27.140 They're going to try to destabilize.

00:05:28.840 They're going to try to antagonize.

00:05:30.220 They're going to burn, loot a store and a shop and all that stuff.

00:05:33.060 And, of course, from, you know, shit libs on Twitter to mainstream media will argue, well, look at what the far-right thugs are doing here, you know, kind of thing.

00:05:41.440 And there's no way to prove, like, what side who is on, really, and things like this.

00:05:45.760 It's very decentralized as far as I understand it.

00:05:49.100 Now, we have this aspect of, like, you know, the former, they've been defunct now, but obviously EDL, the media have spun this up as well.

00:05:54.780 Tommy Robinson, we'll talk more about that a little bit later.

00:05:57.220 How much have they kind of instigated when it comes to this?

00:05:59.480 But otherwise, it seems, at least from my vantage point at this stage, a very grassroots type of thing.

00:06:05.400 Like, this took off.

00:06:06.600 There's been some organization on the back end, but very, you know, very grassroots, very decentralized, which makes this very, very messy.

00:06:14.220 But, Steve, let's begin with you.

00:06:15.720 Like, how do you, what was your initial reaction to this?

00:06:18.060 And now, as Mark said, as he said, it's been kind of rolling on, you know, for several days now, and it doesn't seem to ease off.

00:06:25.760 Where do you think this is going now, next?

00:06:27.740 Well, the direction it goes is, personally, I think Britain's on the verge of ending up, sorry, Britain's on the verge of ending up like Northern Ireland, unfortunately.

00:06:39.420 It seems like there's going to be a divide in society that's not going to be able to be mended.

00:06:43.980 A complete different cultural society.

00:06:46.120 The two groups of people absolutely despise each other.

00:06:48.620 It's not going to end pretty.

00:06:51.080 But how it escalated, really, a lot of people say it started with the Southport protest, but it didn't, really.

00:06:58.920 There was a catalyst, and it obviously sparked events.

00:07:01.640 But tensions have been building up over the previous months before then.

00:07:05.780 You had the Hare Hills riot.

00:07:07.500 You had the attack at the airport with the Muslims and so on.

00:07:10.140 And then there was various other little clashes happening here and there all over the country.

00:07:14.480 And that was all pushing to a point where, ultimately, this was inevitable.

00:07:19.020 These are things that we've been warning about for ages.

00:07:21.200 These are why we campaign on policies such as remigration and so on, to try and avoid what's happening in front of us. 0.99

00:07:27.640 These are things we've been warning about.

00:07:29.140 So when all the chaos comes, the only people with a calm, sane, normal sense of direction are the nationalists, because they already knew this was going to happen.

00:07:37.840 In our eyes, it's already happening.

00:07:39.840 It was just waiting for the spark to happen.

00:07:41.800 So it was inevitable.

00:07:43.780 And it's going to be one of them situations now where protesting in the country has changed.

00:07:50.140 It's going to be more like France, where there will be peaceful protests.

00:07:54.280 There will be people where they're just coming and they're doing a banner drop and so on.

00:07:57.560 But then there will be other sort of protests where it only takes one spark.

00:08:01.360 And then for all you know it, you've got three days worth of rioting again.

00:08:04.760 That's the situation where we're in now.

00:08:07.460 I don't like to call them riots because I don't really think they're riots.

00:08:10.380 I think they're protesting.

00:08:11.420 People are angry.

00:08:13.220 The government's not listening to them.

00:08:15.100 Media is not listening to them.

00:08:17.240 Nobody's listening to them.

00:08:18.260 You can go and speak to your MP, your councillor, the media, the police, anyone.

00:08:23.540 No one's going to listen to these people.

00:08:25.240 They've literally had no other option.

00:08:27.840 Otherton lash out. 0.99

00:08:29.120 And these are people from like poor communities that they're not middle class riots.

00:08:35.040 Most of them are Labour strongholds as well.

00:08:37.180 So defining them as far right riots is really misunderstanding the public because these are normal people that are angry.

00:08:43.260 There's no connections to any far right organisation that I know of.

00:08:46.860 There's no leading far right figure organising all these protests or anything.

00:08:51.580 There's none of that.

00:08:52.260 This is organic just happening in local communities.

00:08:54.500 They've seen a hotel down their road.

00:08:56.660 One of the kids has been raped in the area.

00:08:58.880 Another woman's been followed home. 1.00

00:09:01.000 A couple of lads have been assaulted.

00:09:02.280 Someone's had their house robbed or something.

00:09:04.280 All of these tensions have escalated and they've targeted the hotel.

00:09:07.780 Of course, you can't condone violence, obviously.

00:09:09.960 But you have to understand that the tensions are rising in the community and no one's listening to these people.

00:09:16.220 And throwing people in prison and silencing them on social media is not getting rid of the problem.

00:09:20.540 It's only making it worse.

00:09:21.900 Indeed.

00:09:22.900 Mark?

00:09:25.820 I think Steve's right.

00:09:27.800 This was really the straw that broke the camel's back.

00:09:31.340 I mean, last week we...

00:09:33.180 Oh, sorry, not last week.

00:09:34.020 The week before the killing of the three little girls in Southport,

00:09:38.240 there was a stabbing outside a barracks in Kent where a young soldier was stabbed by a black man.

00:09:45.100 And last year we had the horrific scenes in Nottingham where three people were mowed down

00:09:51.280 and then stabbed by a black man who commandeered someone's work van to go on a rampage.

00:09:58.380 And on local levels, we see these things all the time.

00:10:02.680 White lads getting attacked, young white girls groomed, raped, touched, abuse thrown in their direction.

00:10:09.700 And there's been this general build-up of bad feeling that was the Manchester Arena bombing.

00:10:17.440 And when these things happen, there's usually this sort of state-backed peace response

00:10:23.700 where people sing, don't look back in anger, they hold vigils,

00:10:28.280 you know, the left turn out and reassure people that actually, you know, black people make us safer.

00:10:34.440 You know, migration's actually made this country safer, it built the NHS, all this nonsense. 0.99

00:10:39.740 But this time it didn't really work out that way.

00:10:43.720 And I think it's, well, I've likened it on other streams to a little bit like pushing a spring down.

00:10:49.900 The harder and longer you push that spring down, the more likely you are for it to spring back

00:10:57.520 with an extreme amount of energy and do, you know, and basically hit you in the face.

00:11:02.780 And I think that's what's happened.

00:11:03.740 And I think the British government have had their hand pushing down on white working people

00:11:09.780 for so long and they've got so, so sick of it.

00:11:12.900 And finally, there has been pushback.

00:11:15.860 Now, this has ended in some cases in violence, which is not what we want.

00:11:22.380 But the fact is, the underlying cause of all this is that white people have become a victim 0.65

00:11:28.920 class here in Britain.

00:11:30.740 They feel completely dispossessed, completely ignored.

00:11:35.020 Their children are being attacked, brutalized, in some cases murdered.

00:11:40.360 And they finally had enough.

00:11:41.580 Yeah, that's right.

00:11:42.680 They've had enough.

00:11:43.580 Absolutely.

00:11:44.200 And it's, I agree with you.

00:11:46.280 And people need to know as well that there's, there might be things that you guys want to

00:11:50.840 say, but you can't.

00:11:52.300 The situation is now so insane in the United Kingdom with all these crackdowns and people

00:11:57.160 are going after them for retweets.

00:11:59.420 Some of the latest, we'll see if we play some of these clips, but just from today alone,

00:12:03.100 there's a number of pundits today on British television talking about this.

00:12:06.760 Social media has to be shut down.

00:12:08.380 Go after people that just retweet another person's opinion, hold them accountable, put

00:12:13.740 them in jail for this, charge them for hate crime and incitement and all these crazy things.

00:12:19.800 Meanwhile, as we've seen, what was the headline?

00:12:23.800 Care Stormer was talking about how there's just too many people in prisons, right?

00:12:28.280 Just the other day.

00:12:28.920 Do I have those headlines?

00:12:29.780 Maybe I don't have them up yet, but there was a couple of them.

00:12:32.800 Basically, we have too many people in prisons.

00:12:34.940 And then at the same time, there's now this concerted effort then to let out essentially

00:12:40.460 what amounts to murderers and rapists and opening up these prisons for all these thought

00:12:46.140 criminals that are basically posted the wrong things on social media.

00:12:49.680 And so it's clear that the meme was a two-tier Keir was catching on, obviously.

00:12:54.960 And this is, as Steve alluded to as well, this goes way beyond Keir Stormer.

00:12:59.660 Obviously, this is decades in the making, right?

00:13:03.000 I mean, how long, we've shown these headlines so many times, but people really need to wrap

00:13:08.480 their minds around this because this is just a, it's just a statistics in a way that people

00:13:14.000 have said, right?

00:13:14.460 Like potentially a million young girls, underage, have been raped in the United Kingdom.

00:13:21.740 And we don't, for how long has this been going on?

00:13:23.940 I've heard that there's some cases, lawsuits going, or lawsuits, but like people haven't

00:13:27.800 been charged until like 25 years after this.

00:13:31.200 I mean, this really broke after the Rotherham scandal, but like a million young kids.

00:13:35.980 And now finally, it's like, it's just people have snapped.

00:13:39.400 They've just had enough, right?

00:13:41.500 And so the violence is understandable.

00:13:44.340 They created this.

00:13:45.480 The establishment did this.

00:13:47.060 The British population didn't do this.

00:13:49.060 The native British people didn't do this.

00:13:50.740 They're not the ones, you know, responsible for creating the situation.

00:13:54.140 Even if you blame the far right, the far right isn't the one who've held any political power

00:13:58.320 in the United Kingdom for whatever, was there any, you know, how long?

00:14:03.160 They have created this scenario.

00:14:04.920 Now people are sick and tired of it.

00:14:06.800 They have not been listened to.

00:14:08.820 And now they're resorting to speak a language, I guess, that they're forced to listen to.

00:14:14.400 I don't see any other way.

00:14:16.480 What can people do, right?

00:14:18.420 I mean, Steve, let's bounce that over to you for a second.

00:14:20.600 What can they do, right?

00:14:22.560 There's no political representation.

00:14:24.560 There's no political parties.

00:14:25.540 I've even heard that there's some people are talking about, no, no, you should just, you

00:14:28.380 know, don't go out and riot or protest in this manner.

00:14:31.800 You should just try to gain political power and stuff.

00:14:33.980 And people, some, I think, from Britain are pointing out how, you know, obviously first

00:14:37.800 across the post is one of these things.

00:14:39.560 That's why reform got so many votes by so little representation.

00:14:42.440 But it's very hard to politically have some kind of genuine right-wing party to be driven

00:14:46.640 in the UK.

00:14:47.420 In other words, there is no political solution.

00:14:49.200 Well, this is something that I argue with myself a lot because I do believe that there

00:14:58.600 has to be a political solution, even if it goes through 30 years of troubles in the countries

00:15:02.880 but torn apart in between.

00:15:04.640 At the end of that, there's going to be some form of political solution.

00:15:07.060 So there's always, in a way, a political solution.

00:15:09.560 But in the system we're working with now, this is why these riots, well, protests are

00:15:13.960 happening.

00:15:14.540 It's simply because there is no root for these people.

00:15:18.240 People stand in elections.

00:15:19.560 They vote for these politicians.

00:15:20.960 They campaign on the issues that they're concerned about.

00:15:23.660 It doesn't matter.

00:15:24.560 Over a million people marched through the streets to try and stop the Iraq war.

00:15:28.620 They still went through.

00:15:29.580 They still bombed everyone.

00:15:30.740 Yeah.

00:15:30.820 It doesn't matter.

00:15:31.840 The democratic route in the UK is one of the most corrupt, if not in the world.

00:15:37.000 It's not designed.

00:15:38.720 You cannot even enter the game unless you're a multimillionaire.

00:15:43.660 You have to buy yourself into the system.

00:15:45.800 You can't just prop up.

00:15:48.260 Of course, there is the opportunities.

00:15:50.680 There are opportunities to win seats if people really want to go down that route and do what

00:15:54.740 all of the minorities do, which is, for instance, say all of the whites move to a certain area

00:15:59.820 of the country that's sympathetic to our message, and then we could overwhelm the demographic

00:16:04.160 and actually get an MP elected that way.

00:16:06.280 That is a route people can take, and they might have to in the future to actually have

00:16:09.680 any form of representation.

00:16:12.100 But try encouraging people to move and upstack their life to another end of the country is

00:16:16.560 not an easy thing to do just to get them to vote for a certain person.

00:16:19.900 So there are pretty much, in terms of options in front of people at the moment, they're

00:16:26.300 very limited.

00:16:27.480 And this is what's going to create the anger even more, because even Reform, who are meant 0.98

00:16:33.180 to be the party for the people and the closest we've got in terms of an establishment on our

00:16:38.240 side, even Farage is disavowing all these people.

00:16:41.440 He's still coming out with the hard line that, yeah, there has to be discussions on immigration

00:16:44.940 and so on.

00:16:45.580 But he's failing to understand that whilst all these discussions are still going on,

00:16:50.620 these people still have to live in these communities with all of these savages running 1.00

00:16:54.120 around, raping kids and attacking people, and no one's listening to them. 0.78

00:16:58.340 So in terms of a political solution for that, there isn't one until people have got representation.

00:17:04.240 And we are not going to get representation anytime soon.

00:17:07.040 The next general election isn't for, at most, five years.

00:17:10.900 So five years under this government, all dissident voices are probably going to be imprisoned

00:17:14.940 by them.

00:17:16.420 Can they be imprisoned, everyone?

00:17:18.520 I think they might try.

00:17:20.020 Obviously, that's what it's looking like.

00:17:21.840 You know, I show the headlines there of them just opening up more prison cells and getting

00:17:25.520 it.

00:17:25.920 And again, the disgusting nature of this, like how quickly now all of a sudden things that

00:17:32.260 were impossible for like these, you know, foreign invading, you know, criminals, right? 1.00

00:17:37.520 Be they rapists or murderers or whatever.

00:17:40.260 We're like, oh, this is very hard and slow.

00:17:41.980 Now it's just a system springs into action in a way that we've, I think, never seen before,

00:17:47.200 at least in the UK, right?

00:17:48.500 Of like, you know, fast tracking these people.

00:17:51.200 Courts are open 24-7.

00:17:53.480 Just put them in the slammer one after one.

00:17:55.420 I understand they have this like, oh, we've got to make examples out of these people so

00:17:58.300 everyone gets afraid of protesting.

00:17:59.700 But it also shows, it looks to me, Mark, that the system is also terrified at the same time

00:18:05.960 of this, right?

00:18:06.660 It's clamping down 110% maximum capacity of what it can do, essentially.

00:18:12.800 And that forces their hand.

00:18:14.520 That's also showing the rest of the people how insane this is.

00:18:18.420 Of when it's British, native British people that have finally had enough, and they're 1.00

00:18:23.820 the ones who, how often does this happen?

00:18:25.640 White people go out there and like, yeah, riot or protest in this case. 0.61

00:18:29.060 I agree with you, Steve.

00:18:29.700 I should change that, you know, wording on that.

00:18:31.340 But we've seen that now.

00:18:33.200 And now the system springs into action.

00:18:35.080 And it's showing, it's forcing them to show their hand.

00:18:37.460 If nothing else, barring the broken windows and the fires and the burning down of buildings

00:18:42.520 and stuff.

00:18:43.020 And it's not, it's not ideal.

00:18:44.640 Like, I wish this could be done peacefully, but at the very least, it's going to force the

00:18:48.840 system to take that next step.

00:18:50.780 And it's going to be even more, more revelatory to the native British people of, of who they're

00:18:56.160 siding with and how they view their own population.

00:19:00.380 Mark, what do you think about that?

00:19:02.640 Well, I think it's interesting because we're living under a Labour government.

00:19:05.860 And I think if this was happening under a Conservative government, I think they would be, they still

00:19:11.960 want, look, I've got to be totally clear before I say this.

00:19:14.940 The Conservatives want the same thing as Labour.

00:19:17.800 Yes, of course.

00:19:18.300 Conservatives are absolutely wedded to the multicultural project, just as Labour are.

00:19:23.880 But the Conservatives are generally more savvy when dealing with these issues.

00:19:28.760 So they will pay lip service to people's concerns.

00:19:32.300 They will talk about stopping the boats.

00:19:34.400 They will talk about things like the Rwanda plan.

00:19:37.240 They will have plenty of rhetoric to fool the people into thinking that they're listening

00:19:43.540 or that they, they share the concerns that normal people have.

00:19:47.960 And I think if this was happening under a Conservative government, so say Rishi Sunak hadn't called the

00:19:54.720 election when he did.

00:19:55.680 Say he'd have held on for a September, maybe October election.

00:20:00.520 I think things would be very different now, fundamentally different.

00:20:05.100 I think Sunak, Bravaman, Patel, several others would have come out and said, look, there are absolutely

00:20:13.320 genuine grievances here.

00:20:15.960 We understand there are underlying problems.

00:20:18.240 We're trying to deal with those problems.

00:20:20.580 You know, the Rwanda plan.

00:20:22.260 We want to stop the boats.

00:20:24.460 You know, we're attempting multiple different strategies to put migrants off from coming in. 1.00

00:20:31.220 And they would at least pay lip service.

00:20:33.440 Now, the Labour Party are completely different.

00:20:36.520 These people are mask off, hardline, multiculturalists and communists. 0.96

00:20:43.860 And they are not going to pay any lip service whatsoever to any of the issues that normal

00:20:51.960 people are concerned about.

00:20:53.460 In fact, quite the opposite.

00:20:54.700 They will be going and meeting imams.

00:20:57.060 They will be sat in mosques with their shoes off, legs, legs folded like little school boys, 1.00

00:21:02.240 you know, speaking to the Muslims in their own language at the beginning and end of little

00:21:08.180 talks to play up to the fact they claim they understand them.

00:21:12.060 You mean like this, Mark?

00:21:12.720 Tell Al-Malakam, there is one tier of policing that implies to all of us. 0.95

00:21:17.820 And that means that we police without fear or favour.

00:21:20.800 Shokran.

00:21:22.040 Like that.

00:21:22.800 Yeah, like that, dickhead.

00:21:24.340 Yeah.

00:21:24.500 I mean, you know, and the thing is, with what they're doing, with it being so mask off,

00:21:30.640 it feels far more brutal than the Conservative government.

00:21:35.380 So the Conservative government were kind of, you know, an iron fist, but in a silk glove.

00:21:43.820 This is, the glove is off and you're just getting beaten with that iron fist.

00:21:49.240 And Starmer is there just laughing at you, you know, paying no lip service whatsoever to

00:21:54.820 the issues you care about.

00:21:56.180 And tellingly, in all of this, Starmer hasn't even acknowledged that the three girls getting

00:22:04.700 stabbed and murdered was a problem.

00:22:07.800 You know, he's not called for any protections for white people.

00:22:10.740 He's not called for any monitoring of migrants.

00:22:13.760 Nothing.

00:22:14.880 He is just going full ham on British people need to shut their mouths or we're going to 1.00

00:22:21.840 get them for everything.

00:22:23.460 And today he's gone even farther than before.

00:22:26.080 He's had the director of public prosecutions come out and say, well, it's not just a matter

00:22:32.640 of tweeting things.

00:22:34.160 If you retweet something that we deem illegal, well, you're being done for that as well now.

00:22:40.060 So at one point, you know, if somebody wrote something or if somebody said something, they

00:22:45.200 would be liable for that.

00:22:47.040 And if you retweeted it or if you liked it or if you had some interaction with it, you wouldn't

00:22:51.900 be in the firing line.

00:22:53.220 Well, that's all changed today.

00:22:54.860 You know, somebody makes a racy joke and you retweet it.

00:22:58.240 You're just as culpable as they are, which means they're widening the net.

00:23:02.560 And at this point, they don't even have the prison capacity to deal with all the people

00:23:07.260 they're arresting.

00:23:08.320 And when I say the people they're arresting, it's not just those that have been involved

00:23:12.500 in violent disorder.

00:23:13.380 They're now kicking in the doors of, you know, old men, housewives, anyone that said

00:23:20.760 anything objectionable on social media.

00:23:23.980 And whereas you will see these Muslim mobs marching down the street with machetes, bats, 0.98

00:23:30.320 planks of wood, samurai swords.

00:23:33.400 And the police will be politely saying, please go back to your mosque with your weapons. 1.00

00:23:37.300 You know, we don't want any trouble, guys.

00:23:39.200 We police by consent here.

00:23:41.000 We're here to protect you, right?

00:23:43.120 That's what one of them said.

00:23:44.060 Yeah.

00:23:44.300 And all that crap, you know, when it comes to, you know, a woman walking, walking down 1.00

00:23:50.700 the street with protesters holding a placard, well, she may well be getting her face slammed

00:23:55.420 into the concrete, arms forced up her back, handcuffs and thrown in the back of the police 1.00

00:24:00.160 wagon.

00:24:01.000 The two-tier policing is so blatant.

00:24:03.540 And them coming out, you know, speaking, you know, whatever it is, Urdu, and then claiming

00:24:09.860 there's no two-tier policing, absolute garbage.

00:24:13.180 People are going to be up in arms.

00:24:15.020 And if Labour aren't careful, by the end of this, their mask-off attitude will simply have

00:24:20.680 woken up and radicalized millions more.

00:24:23.640 Yep, indeed.

00:24:25.060 So the violence is just kind of a, you know, really a side issue.

00:24:30.540 And again, if someone likes to break some windows or whatever, people are torching stuff, you

00:24:34.120 know what I mean?

00:24:34.800 That's just kind of, because a lot of people say, oh, you're walking into a trap, you know,

00:24:39.060 kind of don't do it or whatever.

00:24:40.260 And I recognize that and I agree with that.

00:24:43.340 I also have this like, yeah, obviously they want to take out the element that are mad and

00:24:48.340 are capable, right?

00:24:49.460 That there's a function of sorts within this, kind of pulling them out of the woodwork.

00:24:53.780 Let's see now who kind of gets, not gets radicalized, but like, you know, is willing to show some

00:25:00.780 fight, basically, in a situation like this, right?

00:25:03.200 So I understand that as an argument.

00:25:05.480 Then another part of me at the same time says like, well, but what can people do?

00:25:11.180 Like, at some point they have to, I'm not saying they should, you know, turn to violence

00:25:14.280 or whatever, and of sorts that kind of serves the system, right?

00:25:17.140 But let's put it in perspective, and some people did this.

00:25:20.720 I think Keith Woods had a post about this, of pulling out a couple of, you know, choice

00:25:24.940 articles, right, about how they viewed the BLM protests and that this was kind of righteous.

00:25:30.100 It was this soul-searching.

00:25:31.640 Even then there were articles about people saying, should we even call these riots?

00:25:35.760 This is just kind of justice, really, at the end of the day.

00:25:38.540 People did great comparisons of Starmer's reaction to the, you know, George Floyd riots,

00:25:43.040 who also happened in England, by the way, which is insane, to how he treated it now,

00:25:46.180 because it's white people, right?

00:25:47.800 So you understand this, like, you know, kind of juxtaposed kind of position that, like,

00:25:52.420 protests are justified.

00:25:53.700 The anger is justified.

00:25:55.620 The rage that people feel is 100% legitimate, you know, kind of thing.

00:26:01.540 But it needs to be, it's not that it's a, it's not about burning a police car or throwing

00:26:07.140 stones at a police officer, obviously, right?

00:26:09.500 But at the end of this, there has to be discipline.

00:26:13.120 There has to be more, you know, organization behind this.

00:26:17.080 There has to be, the British people has to understand that this is like life and death

00:26:20.960 now.

00:26:21.280 This is an existential battle.

00:26:22.920 And some people have argued that, like, they, you can't back down now.

00:26:26.920 You know, the British people have crossed the Rubicon, so to speak.

00:26:30.140 And if they don't keep the pressure on, yeah, maybe the most majority of the people that have

00:26:34.860 this tendency to protest will be put away or jailed or something like that.

00:26:38.700 What do you guys feel about that?

00:26:39.800 Steve, what's your thoughts on some of those ideas bouncing back and forth?

00:26:45.920 Sorry, sorry.

00:26:46.680 I'm just having a bit of a camera issue here.

00:26:48.900 No, no worries.

00:26:49.440 Yeah, go ahead.

00:26:49.980 As long as we can hear you.

00:26:50.820 It's good.

00:26:51.420 You can still hear me all right, though, yeah?

00:26:52.680 Yeah, go ahead.

00:26:54.240 So, like, the issue, I think, is in terms of, like, the prison side of things, is this

00:26:59.840 is a power struggle now from Starmer in terms of he has to follow

00:27:04.700 through with this now.

00:27:05.900 He has to carry on with these arrests.

00:27:08.320 And this is something that he's fundamentally put in as his policy from day one.

00:27:14.680 He wants a tough, no-nonsense approach towards the British public in terms of any resistance.

00:27:20.900 But there's no control of the narrative now.

00:27:23.780 So it's not like previous governments where they could control the narrative and stuff.

00:27:28.900 Now with social media, they can't do that.

00:27:31.440 The narrative is written by the public and it's how the government reacts to that, which

00:27:35.520 is the art of probably, I suppose, governing in modern times.

00:27:38.980 But no one seems to be able to master that yet at the moment because the narrative can

00:27:43.440 change in just a click of the fingers in terms of, for instance, how you see those three

00:27:48.460 girls were murdered by that African savage and then the other 11 girls as well that were 0.97

00:27:52.740 stabbed.

00:27:53.160 Like that, something sparking like that can cause multiple problems that are only going

00:27:58.860 to escalate up the community.

00:28:00.700 I don't think there's going to be peace in terms of the two groups in the country.

00:28:08.800 I don't think that, and when I say the two groups, I don't mean the Muslims in the English, 0.94

00:28:15.180 I mean the foreigners in the English. 0.99

00:28:16.480 Because if you look to places like Croydon and that, it wasn't the Muslims coming out 1.00

00:28:21.320 to stand against the imaginary EDL.

00:28:23.560 It was the Africans. 1.00

00:28:24.720 It was the Bangladeshis.

00:28:25.920 It was the Pakistanis. 0.97

00:28:27.180 It was everyone.

00:28:29.240 Even our own people were coming out.

00:28:31.680 So this issue is not going away anytime soon.

00:28:35.980 I've forgotten the rest of the question.

00:28:39.620 Oh, it was just kind of like, you know, that there needs to be, this needs to have, after

00:28:45.920 the anger and the vent, and it's not that the anger should go away, but like it needs

00:28:49.380 to go somewhere, constructive, right?

00:28:51.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:52.300 No.

00:28:52.640 So, yeah, sorry.

00:28:53.540 I do apologize.

00:28:54.200 So basically, this is something that I've been thinking on for a while, is these people

00:28:58.500 are angry.

00:28:59.140 They've got no outlet.

00:29:00.260 They've got no voice.

00:29:01.260 They've got nobody to turn to.

00:29:02.880 There's groups like Patriotic Alternative, who, despite how much demonized they are in

00:29:10.700 the media, they're an outlet for young men to go to, to vent their problems and have

00:29:15.700 someone who's experienced in nationalism to say to you, look, don't go out the street

00:29:20.260 and set fire to a police car, mate, because it's only going to ruin your life.

00:29:24.460 Like, there's no groups and institutions in place for that other than small, low-funded

00:29:31.020 nationalist groups.

00:29:32.960 And the way forward is building up these organizations and groups, in my opinion, because

00:29:37.700 we need, if you look at all the community leaders for all of these foreigners, our community

00:29:42.360 leaders are the people leading these organizations.

00:29:45.800 They just don't have a platform.

00:29:47.160 They don't have a voice.

00:29:47.960 They don't have any community behind them yet.

00:29:50.300 But that's what we need to build on.

00:29:51.920 There's been thousands of people on the street now, all that share our same concerns, all have

00:29:57.440 the same concerns for their children, and they're worried about the state of the country.

00:30:01.320 All of those people need to be brought into the fold politically in some sort of way.

00:30:06.660 And it doesn't mean they have to go out and stand in elections and things like that.

00:30:10.420 There's so much you can do in terms of, even if you're at college, make sure you're the

00:30:16.200 person who's the spokesman for your little group and your little area and your little

00:30:21.340 community.

00:30:21.800 Just all of these things, get our people into positions where they have a voice.

00:30:26.380 This is the main priority I keep telling people.

00:30:28.720 But I get messages on Twitter from youngsters, and they're going, Steve, should I come out

00:30:33.780 as a full ethno-nationalist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah?

00:30:36.400 And I'm going, well, what's your plans in life?

00:30:38.460 And he's like, well, I'm 19.

00:30:39.520 I want to get this career.

00:30:40.640 And I'm like, OK, be smart about how you word your views.

00:30:44.240 Don't come out there and go, right, I want to send them all back, blah, blah. 1.00

00:30:47.060 Don't come out there and tweet like I do, because you're just asking to make your life

00:30:50.560 hell.

00:30:52.080 So I think people need to be smart.

00:30:53.720 They need to get involved in organizations.

00:30:55.420 They need to speak to like-minded people.

00:30:57.480 They need to go out of their house rather than sitting online, venting and stuff.

00:31:02.000 There's so much more that needs to be done.

00:31:03.740 But the main priority is climbing the steps to get power.

00:31:07.420 Until we get that, everything else is irrelevant.

00:31:10.460 Mark, what's your thoughts on this?

00:31:13.820 Right.

00:31:14.580 I've said this before.

00:31:15.620 I've recently done a series of streams about the electoral system in the UK.

00:31:21.760 I did a stream and a debate.

00:31:23.960 My stream was two hours long, and I explained in great and excruciating detail how the UK

00:31:31.060 electoral system, first past the post, and the two-party system it inevitably creates

00:31:36.700 is a no-go for ethno-nationalists.

00:31:40.040 And then I did a debate where I furthered this and said,

00:31:43.920 now reform have occupied that place.

00:31:47.300 It's even more of a no-go for nationalists.

00:31:50.420 This idea that ethno-nationalists are going to come to power via the ballot box and make

00:31:57.380 big changes is a complete fallacy.

00:32:00.440 It's a waste of time.

00:32:01.580 It's a waste of money.

00:32:02.800 And we need to stop beating that dead horse.

00:32:06.560 What we need in this country, and I've been saying it for years, I said at PA, not to be a political party, but to be a community-building group that advocates for the rights of the indigenous people of these islands.

00:32:20.820 And PA, patriotic alternative, needs to now transition into a white advocacy group.

00:32:29.480 We need to keep the community-building.

00:32:31.740 We need white advocacy. 0.91

00:32:33.260 And we need to start shifting towards a civil rights model for whites in the same vein that blacks and other groups had in the 1960s. 0.69

00:32:46.640 We need to start thinking of ways that we can do letter-writing campaigns, like we did for Sam Melia when he had those unfair restrictions placed on him.

00:32:55.200 We got those overthrown.

00:32:58.120 We need unions so people don't get sacked from their work.

00:33:01.580 We've got that with the Workers of England Union.

00:33:04.300 We work with those.

00:33:05.780 We need protests.

00:33:07.880 We need peaceful resistance, like sit-ins.

00:33:11.340 We need to weaponize our people so that they stop paying for the mainstream media.

00:33:18.000 We need to give people legal advice.

00:33:20.820 This needs to be a full-on civil rights approach.

00:33:26.020 And we need to learn from what the left did so successfully in the 1960s, because fundamentally, we're in that position now.

00:33:35.980 We are the underclass.

00:33:38.860 We are the second-class citizens.

00:33:40.800 And the term far-right is just the modern-day pejorative that's applied to white people who want to stand up for their own ethnic group.

00:33:51.760 And we need to turn this on its head.

00:33:54.540 We need to fight back.

00:33:56.140 You know, when the police attack us and brutalize us, we need to have mass letter-writing campaigns to the Independent Police Commission, Complaints Commission.

00:34:06.000 We need to be contacting the Prison Reform Trust regularly about prisoners who have their rights taken away.

00:34:14.260 We need to be doing all these things and many more.

00:34:17.100 But what we don't need to be doing is pouring more money into fighting the same old elections.

00:34:24.280 Farage is doing very well at that.

00:34:26.200 He's going to dominate that scene, reform with a £600 gorilla in the room.

00:34:30.840 There's no point going up against them.

00:34:32.760 And there's certainly no point trying to split their vote.

00:34:34.520 I mean, how would you feel anyway if you went up against reform and Labour won by 15 votes and you got 100 votes that would have gone to reform?

00:34:43.780 You know, it's not worth it now.

00:34:46.720 Farage is actually doing quite a good job of raising some of the issues we've talked about.

00:34:52.400 He ran on a pretty hard-line ticket.

00:34:55.360 He's not one of us.

00:34:56.360 He's not an FMO nationalist.

00:34:58.700 But he is going to dominate that sphere.

00:35:01.660 So we have to do something different.

00:35:03.860 We have to do something that stands out.

00:35:05.740 We have to do something that can work.

00:35:08.240 There's no point throwing money into these pointless elections anymore.

00:35:11.960 So a couple of thoughts here.

00:35:13.220 And I want to get your check on this because, again, this nature of me going back and forth.

00:35:16.540 They're like, we have to be smart about this, obviously, right?

00:35:19.420 It might feel good to vent.

00:35:21.240 It might feel good to even, you know, go out there and throw a rock or whatever.

00:35:24.060 And trust me, I understand that 1,000%, you know what I mean?

00:35:30.480 But then at the same time, we've got to have that delayed gratification a little bit here.

00:35:35.020 We have to be smart about this.

00:35:36.540 Don't rush into a trap, even if that is intentionally set up for us or not, you know, kind of thing.

00:35:41.520 Again, I think it's just, I think the system is genuinely afraid.

00:35:45.880 It obviously doesn't want white people to riot.

00:35:48.180 If it did, there are a number of things it could have done or not done a certain number of things.

00:35:52.420 So it's not some, in that sense, I don't think it's a secret trap.

00:35:55.740 But, although, now when it is happening, obviously, they're seeking to use that as an opportunity.

00:36:00.600 They're not dumb either, right?

00:36:01.900 But I see people like this, well, you've got to, you know, you've got to fight.

00:36:04.180 You've got to just go out there and, you know, and people are encouraging violence and stuff like that.

00:36:09.200 And it's like, if you don't have a community, if you don't have a gang, if you don't have numbers on your side,

00:36:13.700 you're just going to be put in jail.

00:36:16.380 And there you go, life wasted.

00:36:18.760 Ideally, yes, every single British native man would go out on the streets, 0.78

00:36:22.740 and you have just a massive show of force, you know, but that's not it.

00:36:26.940 The numbers are pretty good, don't get me wrong.

00:36:29.640 But there's a lot of people, I think, still that are just staying out of it,

00:36:32.380 they're staying home or whatever.

00:36:33.940 And granted, as the state escalates,

00:36:37.840 you probably get a situation where more people now generally are going to get angry,

00:36:41.680 and so this might just kind of continue or increase, right?

00:36:44.700 But also, and this is what I want to run by you guys.

00:36:47.240 Do we have the time, though, right?

00:36:49.340 The working for power, setting up pressure groups, lobby groups, NGOs,

00:36:55.520 civil rights movement, all that kind of stuff.

00:36:57.640 Because I feel that there's a window of opportunity, both demographically, obviously,

00:37:02.340 but also in terms of even the surveillance grid that they're building.

00:37:07.380 This has already expanded and very bad in Britain, right?

00:37:10.060 But now they're talking about these things of like,

00:37:13.040 if I'm understanding that correctly, they're like football hooligans,

00:37:16.040 that they can't even go on a tram or something like that.

00:37:18.240 What I'm saying is, eventually, you'll have like, you know, sectors or whatever within Britain, right?

00:37:24.300 That you're like able to move through.

00:37:26.100 And like if artificial intelligence or whatever, some new system in place,

00:37:30.380 haptic devices, biometric signatures, facial recognition, cameras, and all this stuff,

00:37:34.740 like if that doesn't recognize you or you're not authorized to go anywhere,

00:37:38.920 you know, the door won't open for you.

00:37:40.600 You can't even leave your home or something.

00:37:42.020 Like they're building a prison system.

00:37:44.100 They're building a, you know, all over the West, they're expanding this.

00:37:47.420 And if we wait five, ten years, maybe that will be, there won't be an opportunity for us.

00:37:54.500 And again, these are some of the ideas I'm bouncing back and forth.

00:37:57.120 And so I'm like, you can't, you have to fight your way out of a prison system.

00:38:02.280 And again, I'm not saying throwing rocks on police is the method to do that.

00:38:05.500 Personally, I'd like to see a massive rush towards like, you know, actually, you know, City Hall or whatever.

00:38:11.460 Like take it to, you know, as big of a problem, obviously, as Muslims are, are the foreign groups and all this stuff. 1.00

00:38:18.120 Ultimately, it's the establishment, right, that should be targeted here.

00:38:21.900 We need to go after those people.

00:38:24.020 We need to go after the buildings.

00:38:25.260 And it'd be a massive show of force in front of these government offices.

00:38:28.480 Maybe the police now, they're like, you know, setting up tons of different, you know, more personnel to just monitor social media to go after people.

00:38:36.660 Steve, what do you think about some of the ideas in terms of like the time?

00:38:39.720 How much time do we have here, you know?

00:38:42.420 So the time schedule is something we have no control on, unfortunately, and can change.

00:38:46.700 It can change in variables as well.

00:38:48.480 So it's something that we shouldn't focus and fixate on too much.

00:38:51.820 Because it could be five years, it could be 50 years, it could be 100 years.

00:38:57.820 We don't know.

00:38:58.540 They could accelerate the program overnight or they could decrease it.

00:39:01.360 We don't know.

00:39:02.340 It all depends on the factors.

00:39:04.220 So to me, yes, the establishment are the problem.

00:39:08.820 With the way things are in the UK, I definitely wouldn't advocate attacking government buildings and things like that.

00:39:14.000 Because people are getting like five years in prison just for tweets.

00:39:18.540 So I wouldn't advocate for that, just in case anyone's thinking about doing that and getting themselves put in prison.

00:39:26.380 Because we have got to be smarter.

00:39:30.500 But like Mark was saying, in terms of building up your own civil rights movement and actually playing the game properly is the only way, unfortunately, that we have a way in.

00:39:40.080 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:39:42.780 I would love to see 10 million British people out on the streets saying, no, we've had enough and we want our country back.

00:39:48.780 And it's so overwhelming that the government has to stand down and all that.

00:39:51.800 But it's a pipe dream.

00:39:52.700 It's not going to happen.

00:39:53.900 It's living in la-la land. 0.99

00:39:55.520 So we have to be realistic and look at the situation in front of us.

00:39:59.360 And we do have to build up civil rights movements.

00:40:02.660 We do have to highlight every single problem.

00:40:05.280 And it's not just those as well.

00:40:07.740 There's other things like if, say, you're an influential person within your gym, start building a community network within those people.

00:40:16.940 If you're popular within your town and stuff, start getting a network of people.

00:40:21.340 So if problems do occur, you can help your own people.

00:40:24.400 So say, let's just use a random example.

00:40:27.540 Say one of our own's house gets burgled by a migrant that's came over on a boat and their life's been ruined. 1.00

00:40:33.040 And we could have a community of people there to go around, help them, get their life back on track, rebuild their home and so on.

00:40:39.940 But all of these things are the ways that we can move forward and help in our own.

00:40:43.540 Because we can't take ourselves out of the system, but we can build ourselves around the system where we can build a protective bubble the same way that all of these little communities do.

00:40:56.600 We need to start looking out for our own and only our own.

00:41:00.060 And we have to be completely unapologetic about it.

00:41:02.660 The same way that everyone else is.

00:41:04.260 At the moment, there's this huge problem where everyone understands the problems.

00:41:09.840 Everyone understands that we're targeted because we're white and we're native.

00:41:12.580 Everyone understands these problems.

00:41:14.040 But a lot of people still can't put their flag in the sand and say, no, I'm an Englishman.

00:41:19.060 This is too far.

00:41:20.000 I don't care.

00:41:20.600 No, I don't care.

00:41:21.620 There has to be lines drawn.

00:41:22.860 So we've got a lot to go.

00:41:25.000 But I wouldn't worry about the time schedule too much because we have no control over it.

00:41:28.760 You could sit there and you could sit looking at a doomsday clock and it's just going to drive you insane.

00:41:33.640 Yeah.

00:41:34.620 Yeah.

00:41:34.960 What do you think of the timing issue, Mark, in terms of how much time we have?

00:41:38.740 Because part of that, it makes me also feel that it's kind of retreating.

00:41:42.880 But at the same time, what can you do, right?

00:41:46.720 Because if you just put yourself in a situation where you will just get arrested or whatever and they'll just put you in the slammer, that's not going to help anybody.

00:41:54.140 In fact, now you've taken away people that are at least willing to fight, right?

00:41:57.540 I just think there will be this – there's just this inevitable escalation here that just is taking place.

00:42:03.980 And part of me is almost like, well, the sooner kind of the better.

00:42:07.500 And again, it's not that this is encouraging.

00:42:09.240 This is just what is happening.

00:42:10.660 This is just what it is.

00:42:12.060 Mark, thoughts?

00:42:13.620 Well, time is not on our side.

00:42:16.340 And in the past, nationalists have always measured the time we've got in terms of when are we going to be a minority.

00:42:26.980 So there's this date in the minds of most nationalists, which is 2066, which ironically is exactly 1,000 years since the invasion, the Norman invasion.

00:42:41.020 So there's this date, 2066, where we officially tick over and become a minority.

00:42:46.540 And people say, well, that's the time we've got left.

00:42:48.960 And if we don't do it before that date, we've lost.

00:42:52.680 Now, I don't think there's a hard and fast timescale.

00:42:57.560 Now, if you want an all-out electoral victory majority, that's what you're looking for, then maybe that date has – maybe there is an expiry date.

00:43:09.820 I'm not looking at it like that.

00:43:11.360 I'm looking at it from the point of view of white survival. 0.84

00:43:14.200 Now, look at South Africa.

00:43:16.100 South Africa, whites are still surviving. 1.00

00:43:18.960 They're in a much worse state than us.

00:43:21.120 But interestingly, South Africa presents one of the world's most inspiring case studies of what can be done when white people think outside the box. 0.59

00:43:34.660 You know, say, look, we're not going to try and win this back via the ballot box.

00:43:38.000 We're going to do something different.

00:43:39.520 And they've done something different.

00:43:40.720 They created an entire city run by whites, for whites. 0.98

00:43:46.240 It's called Irania.

00:43:47.500 It's absolutely fantastic.

00:43:49.540 Now, we need to be thinking outside the box.

00:43:53.820 Now, if you look at Muslims or you look at Jews or look at blacks, how do they live? 0.76

00:43:59.720 Well, they live around their own.

00:44:01.760 You go to a black area. 0.84

00:44:03.620 What is it?

00:44:04.380 Well, it's black-run shops.

00:44:05.760 The whole thing is geared to serve black people, their community.

00:44:10.100 Same with Muslims. 1.00

00:44:11.300 Muslims are probably the best example of that in the UK. 1.00

00:44:14.700 They have aggressively imported their own culture to the exclusion of ours, to the point where these areas are no longer British in any sense. 0.90

00:44:23.980 They are built on British soil, but they are outposts of a foreign country. 0.97

00:44:30.000 They are Pakistan or, you know, wherever, on British soil with their language, their religion, their community centers, their religious buildings, their social customs, etc., etc., etc.

00:44:44.040 And that is an area for them.

00:44:48.300 And from that springs local political power because they're clustered together as one.

00:44:55.160 We need to start thinking along those lines as well.

00:44:58.180 We need to start thinking about creating our own little enclaves.

00:45:04.480 We need to think about creating white heartlands. 1.00

00:45:08.980 You know, when you look at the situation in Britain, people often talk in fanciful terms about things like civil war, about things like race war.

00:45:18.640 That's not going to happen.

00:45:19.860 What will happen is the kind of separation that was seen in Northern Ireland.

00:45:25.620 You will see a racial sectarianism where different racial or ethnic groups live in their own areas and live amongst their own and don't really like other groups coming into their areas.

00:45:39.600 Now, there will be places where people mix.

00:45:43.060 Supermarkets, for example.

00:45:44.720 You know, everyone's going to have to go to Tesco or Asda or Morrison's to get their groceries.

00:45:49.860 But they will then go back to their own areas.

00:45:53.660 And you're seeing this now.

00:45:55.280 Muslims have run white people out of their areas. 1.00

00:45:58.900 Jews have their own areas with their own police force, their own ambulance, etc., etc., etc.

00:46:04.520 A peaceful separation is what we should be aiming for.

00:46:08.680 There are people pushing for this.

00:46:10.640 And we should also, as that is taking place, build this civil rights movement.

00:46:15.880 Because if we're not in some way planning now to be a minority and what we should do as and when that happens, that's a bad thing to not think in those terms.

00:46:29.180 Because it is likely, and we've seen this elsewhere in the country, we are a minority in London.

00:46:34.680 We're a minority in Birmingham.

00:46:36.100 We will be a minority in many major cities within the next decade if we're not in that position already.

00:46:43.620 We need to start planning for getting white people out of those areas, for building areas for our people where we can be safe, where we've got our own heartlands. 1.00

00:46:52.200 And then we need legal and social representation for our people when we've created those heartlands. 0.93

00:46:59.260 These are sensible, forward-thinking solutions that don't rely on spending millions and millions and millions of pounds on elections.

00:47:09.560 To stand a candidate in all of the mainland seats in Britain would cost a political party around two and a half million.

00:47:19.740 The last time the Conservative Party won an election, it cost them $16 million.

00:47:26.860 These are phenomenal sums of money, sums of money that nationalists have never really had access to,

00:47:33.200 and sums of money that frankly wouldn't even guarantee you a win in those elections.

00:47:38.160 But let's say we did raise a couple of million, imagine what could be done if we were buying land, buying property,

00:47:45.740 starting to build our own institutions, starting to build, not homeschooling,

00:47:53.120 but a network of mums that come together, buy a building, and start schooling as a collective. 1.00

00:48:00.100 There are things that we can do, but we need to start thinking outside of that old,

00:48:08.580 well, if we raise two million, we can fight this many seats, we can get four percent in the election,

00:48:13.680 and the day after it will all be forgotten.

00:48:15.400 Yeah, one difference there, of course, between these groups, right,

00:48:21.380 that the kind of the Muslims are encouraged to have there, 0.89

00:48:23.840 so obviously the Pakis, you have maybe the Indians, you have the Jews, as you said,

00:48:29.140 Africans, Sub-Saharan Africans, they can have their stuff, right? 1.00

00:48:32.040 The difference with us, though, right, is that you have also the entire now,

00:48:35.520 majority still white, shit-lib, anti, in this case, native British establishment in the UK,

00:48:42.280 working against us having any of those things, right,

00:48:46.540 that, like, we are not allowed to have the same that they do.

00:48:50.440 In other words, like, take examples in the US, and much of this is mirrored now

00:48:54.040 because it's just a big anti-white Occident that we live in, essentially, here,

00:48:57.800 and it's like, here are racist zip codes.

00:49:00.420 We're going to take people from this area and intentionally try to place them.

00:49:03.680 If that means the state buys up housing or they build housing in the middle of those areas

00:49:08.660 that they see are too disproportionately white, they will do that, right? 1.00

00:49:12.140 So I'm not saying don't do what you recommend.

00:49:14.500 I'm just saying there's so much there that we also have, that we're working against,

00:49:19.160 that we will not be granted the same rights, right, as other people.

00:49:23.200 Mark, what do you say to that?

00:49:25.360 Well, that's why we need the civil rights organizations. 1.00

00:49:28.060 Look, a while ago, it was taken as given that if you were a quote-unquote racist

00:49:35.960 or you were, quote-unquote, far-right, that was it.

00:49:39.760 You were getting sacked at work.

00:49:41.980 We now have a union called the Workers of England Union.

00:49:46.780 That union has over 10,000 members.

00:49:50.100 It's bringing in good money.

00:49:51.720 And I know multiple people who have had their jobs saved

00:49:56.980 or who were unfairly dismissed and got massive compensation.

00:50:01.220 The Workers of England Union were the only union that stood up for people

00:50:06.520 who were sacked for refusing to wear a mask.

00:50:09.440 They set a legal precedent when they defended a woman called Laura Convery,

00:50:13.860 who is a long-standing nationalist.

00:50:15.540 She refused to wear a mask.

00:50:17.640 They won a wrongful dismissal claim.

00:50:20.600 Now, I hear all the time, things can't be done.

00:50:24.560 We'll never have our own union.

00:50:26.260 It can't be done.

00:50:27.480 Well, we've got one now.

00:50:28.880 And they're winning cases.

00:50:30.440 They're protecting people's livelihoods.

00:50:32.560 And people who are being discriminated against

00:50:34.480 are winning massive compensation because of those people.

00:50:38.460 Now, it started small, but it's growing.

00:50:41.360 We can do this.

00:50:43.080 You know, but we've got to be positive.

00:50:45.540 And we've got to stop saying that we can't do this.

00:50:49.260 I'll tell you something now, Henrik.

00:50:51.020 And this is the depressing sort of crap I get on a daily basis from people.

00:50:56.480 When they stopped Sam Melia from seeing his children,

00:51:00.280 I said to Laura, we need to have letter-writing campaigns. 0.93

00:51:04.180 We need to have protests.

00:51:05.440 We need to bombard the governor of that prison with so many letters that when he gets them all,

00:51:13.400 he goes berserk at the person that caused that to happen.

00:51:17.460 Because if things don't change, he has to answer everyone that's written to him because he works for the government.

00:51:24.240 And we should also, I said, CC in the Home Secretary and the Prison Reform Trust.

00:51:30.820 So this guy has got all these letters coming in.

00:51:33.400 He's got people ringing him saying there's got to be change.

00:51:36.080 What does he do?

00:51:36.720 He gets on the phone straight away to the person who stopped Sam seeing his kids and says,

00:51:41.360 you don't reverse this right now.

00:51:43.520 You're cleaning toilets for the rest of your career in this prison.

00:51:46.600 Get it done because I don't want to have to answer a thousand letters.

00:51:50.420 Sam got to see his kids within days, within days of us doing that letter campaign, writing campaign.

00:51:57.780 But do you know what I got?

00:51:59.300 When I suggested that, I got a torrent of abuse from people who don't like me, from negative people, from naysayers.

00:52:06.660 I got, you'll only make it worse for Sam.

00:52:09.720 When's a letter-writing campaign changed anything?

00:52:12.900 What about all the people who put their names on the letters?

00:52:16.220 You're calling for people to dox themselves.

00:52:18.840 I got all the usual shitty negativity and we can't do this and we did it.

00:52:25.220 You know what?

00:52:26.320 If people in this movement, on the fringes, spent more time saying, let's give this a go and less time whining about why things can't work,

00:52:38.720 we'd get a lot more things done.

00:52:40.800 We won a major victory there.

00:52:43.240 Workers of England are winning victories.

00:52:45.560 And the people thinking outside the box are the ones winning the big victories.

00:52:50.260 The people who are losing money, who are losing ground, are the ones doing the same thing we've done for the past 40 years, which is fight these fruitless elections.

00:53:01.720 This can be done.

00:53:03.120 We just need a bit of positivity.

00:53:04.540 We need to think outside the box.

00:53:06.820 And while I'm on this rant, another guy who doesn't get a lot of love but should is a guy called the Woodlander.

00:53:12.520 He's a fantastic guy.

00:53:14.100 He's raised now well over £100,000.

00:53:16.600 And he's buying up the British countryside so that we can hold camps, we can hold events on his land.

00:53:25.560 He's got vision as well.

00:53:26.820 All of these things are taking shape, but they'll only take shape and they'll only progress if people have a can-do attitude and are willing to start thinking outside the box.

00:53:38.780 And I want to emphasize that, that it's not just about the one thing over here or the one thing over there.

00:53:45.260 There, as you said, like, of course, like, write these letters.

00:53:48.880 That's the least, what does that take you?

00:53:50.640 That's the least you can do, right?

00:53:52.220 The problem is how people are portioning their time and what people are doing ultimately with their lives, right?

00:53:58.720 Turn off the telly, put down the pint, right?

00:54:01.840 Stop watching fucking Calurgi Ball on television and get fucking interested in the survival of your race, right?

00:54:09.520 I mean, what the fuck?

00:54:11.300 There's multiple things that needs to be done and people need to get engaged or we are going to go extinct.

00:54:16.800 This is the same in every Western country now, right?

00:54:20.120 It's not just about the one thing that you need or can't do.

00:54:23.180 And the people that are just, as you said, constantly grinding things to a halt and they're blackpilling, don't do that, don't do this, just shut up and get out of the way then, at least.

00:54:32.680 Like, if you're unwilling to do anything, if you don't want to do it or you think this one thing is the way to go, good, act, do something then, you know, instead of whining on others kind of thing, right?

00:54:43.700 Here you got people that have, like, ideas, we're trying to figure this shit out, what do we do, what's it, you know, and you do all of it.

00:54:49.740 And it's not that one person can do all of these things, but we need a range of solutions out there and we need to put effort, dedication, resources, funds, you know, into every single one of them.

00:55:02.960 Because we don't know which one of them is going to be the, you know, the success here, so to speak.

00:55:08.840 It might be a combination of all of them, in fact.

00:55:11.260 But engagement is vital in how people portion their time.

00:55:14.460 Ultimately, the survival of your people needs to be your interest.

00:55:18.120 That needs to be how we live our lives.

00:55:19.640 Anyways, Steve, what's your thoughts on some of this here?

00:55:23.300 It's spot on.

00:55:24.040 Like, there's no excuse to do nothing.

00:55:27.120 That's my answer.

00:55:28.340 If you care about your people and you want us to exist and you want a future for our people, you can do the bare minimum.

00:55:35.260 That's it.

00:55:36.120 That's even if, like, you just go out and deliver some leaflets with our messaging on or you, I don't know, like you're saying, like Mark says, writes a letter or you could write articles or you could even promote other people's work.

00:55:50.200 There's all sorts of things you can do as a nationalist that can further our cause.

00:55:56.000 It doesn't even have to be anything face out.

00:55:58.340 You don't even have to put your name to stuff.

00:55:59.780 There's so much that can be done.

00:56:01.780 But you can't sit back, criticize people that are working their ass off unless you've got genuine reason to criticize those people.

00:56:09.860 Like, for instance, when we come down the route of criticizing Tommy Robinson and stuff, that's genuine criticism.

00:56:15.020 But when it comes to the point of, like, arguing amongst one another, when we pretty much all agree on the same points, it's just we disagree on the approach.

00:56:27.940 That's pretty much where all the argument comes from in terms of nationalism.

00:56:32.000 So you'll have one person, so say person A, will think, right, we need to do the electoral route.

00:56:38.240 Person B will go, well, actually, there's no political solution.

00:56:41.380 Person C will say we could do a bit of both.

00:56:43.280 And then person D will go, you're all fucking idiots.

00:56:45.440 I want to do it my way.

00:56:46.640 And it's getting all of those people to go, OK, you all completely disagree on the way to do it.

00:56:51.500 All go forward and do those things.

00:56:53.460 And then we're attacking from every single angle.

00:56:56.140 But as I see at the moment, and this isn't no disrespect towards anyone, there isn't many active nationalists doing a lot of things at the moment.

00:57:05.720 There's a lot of nationalists, but there's not coming up when starting new campaigns and doing things.

00:57:10.660 And I'm one of them myself, like, I haven't been doing what I'd usually do, which would be going down to the docks and filming all the illegals coming over and highlighting all the immigration.

00:57:20.240 Because sometimes it takes a lot of time.

00:57:21.860 So there are, like, I'm as guilty as everyone else in terms of sometimes you get a bit lazy with things.

00:57:27.220 But there's no excuse to do nothing, in my opinion.

00:57:29.920 Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:57:31.660 That's definitely correct.

00:57:33.080 I'm going to read a couple of you guys' chats here in a little bit, too.

00:57:35.540 I appreciate the support, guys.

00:57:37.740 But I just want to mention this real quick.

00:57:39.400 Maybe we can do a quick comment about that and the Tommy Robinson thing.

00:57:42.600 I'm not sure how much sway he personally held in getting this started.

00:57:48.300 And obviously that's an element, right?

00:57:49.560 But, like, EDL has been defunct for, what, you know, 10 years.

00:57:52.300 But kind of the mainstream and some talking pundits that are picking this up and trying to kind of connect.

00:57:56.680 I see that it was this, like, let's just attack the Muslims here, you know, kind of thing.

00:58:01.800 Which is like, yeah, I disagree with that.

00:58:04.260 Obviously just that that's the only problem here, obviously, right?

00:58:07.620 Tommy's apparently off in, like, water sliding in Cyprus or something.

00:58:11.200 I'm not sure.

00:58:12.640 But so you do have that aspect, right?

00:58:15.340 But I haven't seen much.

00:58:17.580 I want to get your guesses taking this.

00:58:18.740 But I can't imagine that a lot of people out there protesting are like, yay, Israel, you know, 0.75

00:58:24.980 or, like, I'm doing this for the Jews or whatever, you know, kind of thing.

00:58:28.280 Like, I think they genuinely, like, they don't care about any of that, luckily.

00:58:32.840 I could be wrong.

00:58:33.620 Maybe there's instances like that.

00:58:34.560 But that's what I don't see that, right?

00:58:36.060 This is, like, about Britain.

00:58:37.540 It's about the British. 0.58

00:58:38.980 I don't think this is some Zionist plot, although that could be, like, a small element of this or something.

00:58:44.740 Let's try to steer this into some, I don't know, some support for war on Iran or something.

00:58:49.780 But it seems so, in the scope of things, in terms of what's happening in Britain right now, kind of insignificant or whatever.

00:58:55.360 So I'm not sure how much weight to put behind that.

00:58:57.920 Mark, do you want to say anything about this whole debacle with Tommy and all that?

00:59:02.500 Well, I don't know, really, what Tommy has been doing over on X.

00:59:08.020 A lot of papers are saying that he's been publishing places for people to go to.

00:59:13.720 I don't know whether that's true or not.

00:59:15.560 If he has, he may well be in some trouble.

00:59:20.560 What I will say about Tommy Robinson is he's not all bad.

00:59:25.980 And, you know, I have differences with him.

00:59:28.260 But, you know, when it comes down to it, there are tens and tens of thousands of normal, working, white British men and lads who love him, listen to everything he says.

00:59:41.100 And fundamentally, he has been pulled more in our direction of late.

00:59:47.700 However, he is still a massive fan of Israel.

00:59:51.340 But, again, I don't think a single person who's been out protesting over the last couple of days has been doing it for Israel or for Jews or for Zionism.

01:00:03.560 They're doing it because they're sick of what's happening to Europeans. 0.95

01:00:09.680 They're sick of what's happening to the English, you know, the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh. 0.87

01:00:13.540 They're done with seeing their children being butchered.

01:00:17.080 And Tommy taps into that.

01:00:18.740 And people do love him.

01:00:19.880 And I would love to debate him on certain things.

01:00:23.320 But the fact of the matter is he does have a bigger following than any of us.

01:00:28.460 And when, you know, if he was in England now and he called for a march through London about this particular issue, I think there'd be 100,000 people there.

01:00:37.940 Yeah, the problem with Tom is he's a multiculturalist at the end of the day, right? 1.00

01:00:42.360 He's very supportive.

01:00:43.420 So it's like, okay, what slant do you want to have?

01:00:45.900 You want to have your Calurgi, you know, multiracial civilization kind of wrapped in like some patriotic but still kind of Christian thing?

01:00:54.360 Or do you want the shit-lipped version of the Calurgi? 0.98

01:00:56.460 And to me, it's kind of impossible in a way.

01:00:59.580 Like, I agree with you.

01:01:00.460 Like, yeah, okay, it's a good start.

01:01:01.700 It's a good beginning.

01:01:02.460 Obviously, he has had to concede maybe on certain points or to remain relevant.

01:01:07.660 He also has to kind of follow where the tide is going, which is more in our direction, obviously, right?

01:01:11.260 But at the end of the day, he doesn't, it seems like, genuinely care about race.

01:01:15.940 It's more about culture.

01:01:16.760 And as long as we get the Muslims out, everything will be fine. 1.00

01:01:18.760 And I disagree with that.

01:01:19.820 I'm not sure how you can form a coalition with someone who's a multiracialist at the end of the day.

01:01:23.520 I think his big problem, Tommy's big problem, and I've said this on many streams, is Tommy's ideology is that multiculturalism fundamentally works.

01:01:37.000 However, it stops working once you introduce Islam. 1.00

01:01:41.200 So, you know, Islam is the spoke in the wheel that prevents everything turning. 1.00

01:01:47.820 And if you removed Islam, we'd all get along fine. 1.00

01:01:50.700 Now, that is complete garbage.

01:01:52.740 You know, much of the knife crime, if not the vast majority of knife crime that you see taking place on the streets of Britain is not carried out by Muslim youths. 0.85

01:02:03.320 It's carried out by black youths, youths who were born here and are the descendants of the hallowed Windrush generation.

01:02:11.640 You know, I don't want Britain to be overtaken by Afro-Caribbeans any more than I want it to be overtaken by Muslims. 1.00

01:02:17.640 However, Tommy does tap into this Islamic issue and people do listen to him because for most British people, the most jarring example of multicultural failure is Islam. 0.99

01:02:33.260 And over the last few days, you know, we have seen large, you know, protests on the streets carried out by, you know, native Brits.

01:02:46.180 But at the same time, the counterbalance to that has been almost completely from Muslims.

01:02:54.020 And when Muslims do come out, it is very scary for normal people. 1.00

01:02:59.140 They see very disciplined, militarized men carrying weapons, chanting phrases like Al-Akbar, which to the average person is what somebody shouts before they detonate themselves.

01:03:13.100 And that is something that Tommy taps into.

01:03:15.460 He taps into that absolute understandable fear of the Islamization of Britain. 0.99

01:03:21.800 And as a British person, there are few things as jarring and as disturbing as traveling through one of these Muslim areas and feeling as if you were literally in a foreign country, whereas, you know, you know you're on British soil, but you feel as if you're in a foreign country. 1.00

01:03:41.000 And Tommy embodies this country's or white people's dislike of that feeling.

01:03:46.960 Yeah. Oh, certainly. Absolutely.

01:03:49.280 Let me take a couple of these chats here to see here.

01:03:53.040 Enlightened Despot over on Rumble says, it's now about the end game, our security.

01:03:58.100 We need a settlement with these foreign colonies, bottle them up, designate land for our laws and traditions, minority rights for Europeans. 1.00

01:04:05.700 And I agree with you, but it's that like we can we can do.

01:04:08.980 But it's more of that, like, you know, look, it's like Spain.

01:04:10.900 You got to look at those historical examples. Right.

01:04:12.640 I don't think we'll take that long, but it took them 700 years to get their country back.

01:04:16.060 And even even ethnically, they were kind of altered because of it.

01:04:19.660 And I refuse that. You got to start somewhere. Right.

01:04:22.760 And that's the thing. You got to work on multiple levels of multiple times.

01:04:25.700 At the end of the day, people need to get serious about this.

01:04:29.440 People need to get engaged. That's where that's what this is about. 1.00

01:04:32.640 We need we need numbers. It's not that we a highly organized minority can do a lot, but ultimately we need more people that can then contribute their time, their resources, their knowledge, their expertise, whatever profession they're in, et cetera, towards these kinds of causes.

01:04:47.700 And that's the other question I have here. But before I take some of the other chats, is there is there anybody, do you think a wealthier person, the industrial class, the monarchy, not the monarchy, but like an upper class in England or the UK wider looking at this, seeing this people that have means and resources and like what's happening here kind of thing.

01:05:14.240 I mean, I know to a large extent they're very isolated from this, which is obviously, as you guys have said now, this is why it's working class people that are out there like taking the brunt of this, obviously.

01:05:23.400 Right. But at some point, I'm not saying sit down and wait for someone else to fix this.

01:05:27.220 Don't don't you know, don't think that. But I'm saying surely at some point there has to be people with means and resources getting involved.

01:05:34.300 Steve, what do you think? Is that a is that a possibility? Is that is that are they going to are any of these people going to wake up to what the hell is going on to your country?

01:05:40.900 Well, this is the thing. A lot of these people are very aware of what's going on, but they profit from it.

01:05:46.820 So it's changing the status quo for these people that are earning a very large amount of money from the destruction of the country.

01:05:53.480 So by that notion, they're not going to switch to our side. But you would like to think I understand what you're saying.

01:05:59.220 You would like to think that there are people within the establishment who have money, who have resources, who have connections that would share our cause and ultimately lend a hand.

01:06:09.060 Because their shift is going to burn down, too. All right. If this continues, the spiraling violence and chaos.

01:06:14.980 Well, this is the thing. We're all in it together, essentially, but we're not.

01:06:18.100 This is how there's there's there's ultimately there's enough lifeboats for the upper elites, but there isn't enough for everyone else.

01:06:25.060 So waiting on those people to come forward is something that's been happening in nationalism for decades.

01:06:30.800 Like there's always they've always been waiting for a wealthy benefactor to come through and help push the cause forward.

01:06:36.520 But it's it's just a pipe dream. Unfortunately, it would be nice to have the establishment on side.

01:06:42.880 But not all of them, but just like, you know, like a few, you know, can we get three?

01:06:46.960 You know what I mean? Like that?

01:06:48.220 I'm sure there are plenty that are sympathetic to us, like make no mistake.

01:06:52.580 There's probably an awful lot of sympathetic, but because of their social status and where they're at, it would be like suicide for them to even contemplate the idea of even entertaining, having a discussion with, say, someone like myself or Mark.

01:07:05.380 It just wouldn't ever be on their interest.

01:07:07.620 If you look at Jacob Rees-Mogg, former MP, he's what you would call part of the establishment and so on.

01:07:16.300 He met with a traditional Britain group and he almost his career was almost finished because of that. 0.92

01:07:21.540 And the traditional Britain group aren't even radical in a way.

01:07:24.400 They're more of like a slightly to the right conservative group, if anything, probably more nationalist these days.

01:07:31.260 But at the time, they very weren't there weren't exactly anything radical.

01:07:35.360 It was just it was massive outrage.

01:07:37.620 So there are people that are sympathetic and understand our message.

01:07:41.120 But the way the country is at the moment will never give them the opportunity to even entertain the idea.

01:07:47.980 Got you.

01:07:48.700 Arctic Wolf, thank you for the super chats are always good to see you.

01:07:51.440 Thank you so much for that generous don't know.

01:07:52.780 Hi, Henry. Glad to see you guys doing more streams.

01:07:54.800 You bet. Lana had a great stream yesterday with Jada Franzen.

01:07:57.380 Keep up the great work.

01:07:58.200 Yeah, she's come a long way.

01:08:00.220 It's good to see her finally waking up to, you know, the JQ and some other stuff.

01:08:03.560 So, no, no, that was a good discussion.

01:08:06.000 Fruit wall.

01:08:06.640 And again, I have my disagreements, obviously, in terms of like, you know, some of it.

01:08:11.120 But but yeah, it's it's like what we've said here today.

01:08:14.200 Right. It's a multi pronged, multifaceted kind of approach you have to have to these things.

01:08:19.980 You can't just and that's not going to happen anyway, to be honest.

01:08:22.240 It's just not going to be at this point.

01:08:24.100 Someone shows up and I'm going to lead the whole thing and all our eggs are put in one basket.

01:08:28.540 I don't think that's going to happen.

01:08:29.560 But ultimately, it's about engagement, right, that people have to understand that this is serious or you're going to die.

01:08:35.000 Like get involved now.

01:08:36.780 Do something, you know, on that message need to reach people and get out to people.

01:08:40.880 And that's, by the way, one of the reasons why they're so intent on controlling and restricting, restricting information flows.

01:08:49.340 Right now, they're from today.

01:08:50.580 We didn't play the clips yet.

01:08:51.580 But this is, you know, some of the things that have been going around today where we had various pundits talking about how basically social media needs to be essentially shut down in the UK in order to stop the spread in their terms of myths and disinformation.

01:09:04.680 Again, this is about them ensuring it's an insurance policy for them.

01:09:09.220 Right. This is to ensure that the establishment that are doing this are not exposed and that the people don't understand what really is going on.

01:09:15.840 And they want to have one singular, you know, news outlet, whatever, BBC or something, I guess, just to, you know, to drive the line of what's happening and why these are, you know, these things are happening.

01:09:25.960 I think it's too late, but we'll see what they do.

01:09:28.240 Archie says a worker strike in the Arab Spring of 2010 persuaded the kings to acquiesce the peasants demands.

01:09:36.100 Why won't a white strike work in the UK? 0.99

01:09:38.440 Do whites suffer from cancel culture, but Arab nations don't? 1.00

01:09:42.700 You have the aspect of that being slightly gay opt, if I remember correctly, right? 1.00

01:09:46.640 There was like kind of, I think there was like intelligence services.

01:09:51.280 Egypt had a huge debt to the, I mean, it wasn't only in Egypt, obviously, but that was a big part of it was in Egypt was a lot of that Arab Spring stuff happened.

01:10:01.920 Huge debt to the US and the fact that they went in and tried to kind of steer or whatever.

01:10:05.840 And it could be something genuine there, of course, as well.

01:10:08.700 I'd love to see a white strike, right? 1.00

01:10:10.260 That's what some people have talked about.

01:10:11.300 Again, I can't directly, I guess, kind of allude to things.

01:10:14.300 But yeah, in other countries, right?

01:10:15.680 You can look at what the communist, you know, protest did, right?

01:10:21.020 Again, very different here because they still have their ethnic component fully being a majority in their own country.

01:10:25.760 But you still have those things, right?

01:10:27.000 In other types of scenarios or historical examples, you have things where systems of commerce are interfered with or transportation or like all these other things, all these other things of what could happen kind of along the way that some people might decide that they think is a good idea to do.

01:10:47.240 But quickly on that, guys, Mark, to start with you, like, again, it's about the organization, right?

01:10:54.020 Numbers, you're not going to just be able to do a tweet and say, let's do this and get everyone on your page.

01:10:58.780 That's what's so hard about it, right?

01:11:00.060 But ultimately, yeah, like a white strike, I guess, Mark, like shut down the system, grind it to a halt in a legal manner. 0.79

01:11:08.340 You see what I'm saying?

01:11:08.840 Like, what's the possibility of something like that?

01:11:12.040 Well, that's exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about earlier.

01:11:14.700 You know, I've talked about letter writing, nonviolent resistance.

01:11:17.800 You know, a white strike is a good idea. 1.00

01:11:19.380 I mean, one thing that I put forward, Tommy Robinson's got a lot more reach than I have.

01:11:25.020 Now, can you imagine if Tommy Robinson called an event in London and said, look, we're not going to do the event on a Saturday or Sunday.

01:11:33.420 We're going to do it on a Monday morning and we're going to do it for two days.

01:11:38.140 So I want you all to take two days off work, come down to London, and for 48 hours, we're going to sit down Whitehall and prevent any government minister, any civil servant, the prime minister himself doing his job.

01:11:53.100 How long do you think they would last when they couldn't get their deliveroo, when they couldn't get their morning paper, when the couriers couldn't come in with their parcels or their Amazon deliveries?

01:12:04.120 They would be going up the wall.

01:12:06.620 They wouldn't be able to function.

01:12:09.380 And if we sat there for 48 hours with people bringing, you know, people bring blankets, you know, obviously switch people out, tag people in and out as they could come, you know, make room for toilet breaks, bring people food and water.

01:12:23.940 We could do something absolutely magnificent.

01:12:26.480 And the only way people could deal with a white strike or with peaceful resistance is with absolute brutality threats and mask off craziness that would turn more people against them.

01:12:39.740 There's lots of things we can do.

01:12:41.160 But again, it's time to think outside the box.

01:12:44.380 And it's time to start thinking how we can inconvenience them legally and peacefully.

01:12:51.260 I wouldn't have said it, you know, maybe, well, maybe I would have met you like a few years ago, five years ago or something.

01:12:58.380 Right. But like you need and I kind of I mean, I don't cringe is the right word, but like martyrs.

01:13:04.640 Right. That it's it just kind of sucks.

01:13:06.780 But like, yes, there's going to have to be people that take risks and they're going to have to be take a boot to the face by the system in order to for the system really to reveal itself.

01:13:17.680 Because there is a benefit to that at the same time, as you say, right, that that you have to have that righteous anger being being, you know, sparked among people, among normal people.

01:13:27.640 Imagine if more and it's not that they should be on the front lines or anything like that.

01:13:30.560 But imagine more even more like older people also coming, you know, coming out and again, obviously being protected by the younger, more fit people if they're being attacked and things like this.

01:13:39.620 But I'm saying just more people out on the streets like shut things down.

01:13:43.820 You know what I mean? Like that. We need those kinds of things.

01:13:46.080 But I genuinely feel that something like this could develop into that.

01:13:50.840 Right. It could actually keep going.

01:13:53.840 It could escalate. It could easily not slow down as fast as some people maybe have predicted it to do.

01:14:01.260 It's not wrong to have a shit ton of people on your side, obviously, although we can't rely on that and sit and wait for it.

01:14:08.200 Like the old and all the normies must wake up before we do something.

01:14:12.000 Steve, do you have any thoughts on that?

01:14:13.320 Well, you can never wait for the normies to wake up.

01:14:17.500 That's something that you have to guide them rather than wake them up, I think, is something I've learned over the years.

01:14:24.600 You could provide someone with all the information in the world.

01:14:27.880 You could show them videos.

01:14:29.520 You could show them hard evidence of everything you're saying to them.

01:14:32.680 And it still won't sink in.

01:14:35.100 So it's better just to lead those people rather than to sort of red, I don't know what the word is, red peel them or whatever people call it these days. 0.63

01:14:43.280 Because it doesn't really help.

01:14:45.040 And like Mark was saying, there are so many different approaches.

01:14:50.560 Like Tommy Robinson, he had that 40,000, I think it was over 40,000, 50,000 people in London recently.

01:14:56.980 If he said, like Mark said, had that on a Monday or even on a Friday afternoon, started it on a Friday afternoon just before everyone wanted to go home from work and it just kept everyone stood still and everyone's absolutely fuming.

01:15:12.200 And yes, you're going to get people tarnishing your name all over the Internet and stuff because you've made them three hours late to go home for dinner or whatever.

01:15:20.540 But things like that continuously start sowing problems within society for all of these establishment figures because they start thinking, well, we don't need this.

01:15:29.920 This is why these Just Oil activists were so successful because they even understood the fact that the public is going to hate them.

01:15:37.860 And they're still, I'm just using these as an example.

01:15:40.080 Yeah.

01:15:40.520 So for what they believe in, they know the public are going to absolutely despise them for every bit of activism they do.

01:15:48.320 They know that when they do their bits of activism, there's a good chance that some of their activists may even get attacked by the public for doing what they're doing.

01:15:55.780 But when they're doing their stunts and they're doing their little bits of political activism, no one's getting hurt.

01:16:00.180 There's no riots or nothing like that.

01:16:02.200 But the whole country understands why they're there.

01:16:05.580 The whole country knows their message, whether they like it or not.

01:16:09.220 And that's something that we have to learn.

01:16:11.980 Obviously, don't stand on bridges and things like that because people are going to prison for things like for those sort of things.

01:16:17.200 But if you mirror some of the tactics that all of our enemies, all of the foreigners are doing and all of the leftists and so on, if you mirror these approaches and use them for our own people, we could really, really make a difference. 0.79

01:16:31.320 Even just looking at, for instance, little things like the Black Lives Matter movement, they started with riots.

01:16:39.540 But then after that, everything branched out.

01:16:42.620 There was like, right, we want representation here.

01:16:44.560 We want our people heard on TV.

01:16:46.060 We want this.

01:16:46.740 We want this.

01:16:47.760 Now's the time while the iron's hot to strike.

01:16:50.380 Now's the time to get our voices heard.

01:16:53.440 Even on GB News, they were talking about ethnicity the other day.

01:16:56.960 That's a massive step forward.

01:16:59.100 That would never have been heard of before these riots, well, protests.

01:17:02.980 So there are things we can do.

01:17:05.760 But in terms of the normal people, you can't wake someone up who refuses to see the evidence in front of them.

01:17:11.800 No, of course not.

01:17:12.500 They have to be guided.

01:17:13.540 And that's what Tommy Robinson does so well.

01:17:15.380 He doesn't care that all of these people probably don't even agree with him.

01:17:18.620 It's just there's something that they all do agree on.

01:17:21.660 That tiny little detail nips into it, and then they're all in your movement.

01:17:25.880 That's how it works.

01:17:27.140 Yeah, you can only show them the door.

01:17:29.400 They have to walk through it themselves, as I say.

01:17:31.380 And also tips for protesting.

01:17:32.700 Leave your mobile phone at home, plain clothing or something black, fit in with the majority of people around you.

01:17:38.300 I don't think a balaclava ski mask is illegal to wear in the UK if you go out.

01:17:43.560 No visible signs of anything on your body that you can be identified for.

01:17:46.960 I see way too many Brits out there just not being smart about this either.

01:17:51.420 If you're going to be out there, do it right.

01:17:53.020 Andy says, in preparation for the protest on Saturday in Hull, should people email their MP, maybe especially the Reform MP,

01:17:59.240 and ask for a statement regarding Sam Emilia and all of the other political prisoners?

01:18:03.100 I mean, sure, why not?

01:18:04.360 I mean, obviously, that was something that would be kind of put up by Mark, if you will, or Laura or someone like that,

01:18:08.720 like to do kind of a centralized effort to do that.

01:18:11.600 But, Mark, quick thoughts on that?

01:18:15.520 We've got several things up on the website that you can do.

01:18:18.400 If you want to, you can write to your MP.

01:18:21.840 There's all sorts of things you can do.

01:18:23.360 It's all listed on our website, patrioticalternative.org.uk.

01:18:27.880 The protest in Hull will only be about an hour, an hour and a half.

01:18:30.400 It's outside the prison.

01:18:31.760 It starts at 1 p.m.

01:18:33.220 If you can get there, it'd be great to see you.

01:18:35.520 Very good.

01:18:35.880 Frank over on Odyssey says, 13 tribes of Pakistan.

01:18:39.220 Read that in context, Henrik.

01:18:42.400 Was it six major tribes of Pakistan?

01:18:44.800 Unless you're swapping out Pakistan for something else. 0.91

01:18:47.120 I'm not sure.

01:18:47.480 Maybe I'm missing the point, Frank.

01:18:49.020 But anyway, thank you for your super chat.

01:18:50.140 Appreciate it.

01:18:50.920 Patton was right.

01:18:51.800 Simply says, thanks for the stream.

01:18:53.220 Thank you for the support.

01:18:55.220 That's OB. 0.94

01:18:56.600 A nice cyber virus this might help.

01:18:58.820 Well, again, there's all, there's so many, I'm not, you know,

01:19:02.800 I'm not addressing this situation directly.

01:19:05.880 Anything that might pop off in any European country in the future.

01:19:10.060 There are a million and one different variables of things we can't even imagine now

01:19:15.400 that could be available to us or that someone simply just does.

01:19:20.120 And again, without going in for too much, but yeah, from technologies to, you know,

01:19:24.900 new advances in certain fields, like it might sound very nebulous,

01:19:29.080 but, you know, I'm not going to say anything more than that.

01:19:30.880 Like there's, there's so many things and we can't have this mindset that this is impossible.

01:19:38.440 If we don't even think it's possible, then it's never going to happen, right?

01:19:42.920 You have to kind of, you kind of have to will it, right?

01:19:46.080 You get, you have to hold that as, you know, with an iron fist inside of your mind that this

01:19:51.660 is going to happen.

01:19:53.020 You have to believe this.

01:19:54.280 Everyone involved have to believe this.

01:19:56.600 If you start, you can't just go halfway.

01:19:59.100 Well, maybe like you have to be all in on something like this.

01:20:03.780 It's do or die.

01:20:05.160 And that's the mentality.

01:20:06.920 But yeah, anyway, thanks all.

01:20:07.920 I know what you're saying.

01:20:09.040 I appreciate that.

01:20:10.300 Drummond Base World says, in the American Revolution of 1775 to 81, 1781,

01:20:17.120 90% of Americans did nothing but watch and serve up cheap criticism.

01:20:21.500 That's true.

01:20:22.440 Seems some things never change, but that is also in a way a white pill.

01:20:26.060 Yes, it is.

01:20:26.560 A highly organized minority can do a lot of things and it doesn't take anybody, everybody.

01:20:31.060 Obviously that it helps when you have the numbers, but it's not necessary.

01:20:34.200 You're absolutely correct.

01:20:34.900 But Holokov says, what are the thoughts on deportations being impossible?

01:20:40.060 Could it be done with a threshold of under 10 years of arrival, et cetera?

01:20:45.560 Quick thoughts, because we're going to wrap up here shortly.

01:20:47.980 But Steve, deportations, what do you think?

01:20:53.080 That's something I advocate for.

01:20:56.340 Deportations, they will work, but it's not going to work in terms of how people think

01:21:00.660 mass deportations would work. 0.99

01:21:02.120 Because people always have the idea if we're going to go and round them up and we're just

01:21:05.660 going to throw them out.

01:21:06.420 That's not how mass deportations are going to work.

01:21:08.780 If they were to work and we get into the situation where we have the opportunity to put in a

01:21:13.160 remigration program, it would have to start in stages.

01:21:16.620 So it'd be stage one, get rid of all the foreign criminals and illegals. 1.00

01:21:20.320 Stage two, get rid of immigrants that aren't working. 1.00

01:21:23.160 Stage three, get rid of all people that will actively work against the British state or so on,

01:21:28.320 because we would be the British state then in that stage, and you'd get rid of those

01:21:32.180 people that work for NGOs.

01:21:33.880 You've got anyone with dual citizenship.

01:21:35.580 Say there's someone with a dual Israeli citizenship.

01:21:38.080 They could potentially be a spy.

01:21:39.580 We could deport those people.

01:21:41.280 There are stages you could go down, but you wouldn't be able to go, right, I want to get

01:21:45.140 rid of all of the blacks, the Jews, the Pakistanis, and all of this, and then just round them 1.00

01:21:48.140 out.

01:21:48.380 It's not going to happen like that, unfortunately.

01:21:50.940 Yeah.

01:21:51.400 It'd be nice, but it's not going to happen.

01:21:53.480 Well, but it's true.

01:21:54.300 It's showing what is possible.

01:21:55.740 Look at some other countries.

01:21:56.780 Was it Afghanistan?

01:21:57.960 No, Pakistan deported like a million people.

01:22:00.200 I mean, I know it's a neighboring country, but it's the point, right?

01:22:02.500 Like, there's other countries doing this.

01:22:04.300 They're deporting a million, you know, Afghanis back to their country or whatever.

01:22:07.740 It's not impossible.

01:22:09.240 You know what I mean?

01:22:09.620 Yeah, go ahead.

01:22:11.840 But the thing is, there's going to be an awful lot in the UK.

01:22:14.300 There will be an awful lot of pushback if we get to the situation where we can deport these 0.92

01:22:19.100 people.

01:22:19.380 You've seen how much pushback there is just from our people protesting on the street.

01:22:23.500 Imagine what it's like when we're literally rounding these people up to deport them.

01:22:27.260 Yeah.

01:22:27.680 No time to get queasy, ladies and gentlemen.

01:22:31.600 Because, like, you can, what was it?

01:22:34.160 Oh, okay.

01:22:34.960 I don't know.

01:22:35.380 It's just a dumb example.

01:22:36.440 But you saw it was someone working at Home Depot that an advocate for, like, Trump to

01:22:40.400 be assassinated was fired or something.

01:22:41.880 And a bunch of conservatives, you know, came out.

01:22:43.360 Oh, we're not behind cancel.

01:22:44.500 Like, if you not even can get a woman, and I'm not saying she deserves it. 1.00

01:22:49.000 I don't care, to be honest.

01:22:49.940 Whatever.

01:22:50.200 But, like I'm saying, if you can't even see someone lose their job, like, how is going

01:22:54.040 to people react if there's, like, mass deportations in the work?

01:22:56.760 You know what I mean?

01:22:57.360 Like, come on.

01:22:58.140 Like, toughen up a bit here.

01:22:59.280 But, all right.

01:22:59.680 Anyway, Frank here again says, deport Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon.

01:23:04.780 Keep your sanity and your country.

01:23:06.960 We have Drummond Bass World again says, I saw telegrams are moving some posts for the UK

01:23:11.540 government.

01:23:12.080 For the UK government, oh, okay, I see what you're saying, yes.

01:23:15.080 Which is a major bummer.

01:23:16.940 Haven't confirmed it, but pressure from the government may buckle them.

01:23:20.300 Well, we'll see what happens.

01:23:21.820 I mean, that's just one of the latest.

01:23:22.820 I guess we can have some closing thoughts here, gentlemen, before we wrap up.

01:23:25.540 But, yeah, that's a big one that seems to be coming inevitably down the pipe of, like,

01:23:29.460 them trying to just restrict social media.

01:23:31.380 Again, I think that will just expose them even more.

01:23:34.400 I think that will just anger people.

01:23:36.380 And it will probably even engage people that otherwise wouldn't be engaged because they will

01:23:40.580 be pissed off. 0.93

01:23:41.320 Mark, thoughts?

01:23:42.200 Again, I think the government are basically going full mask off.

01:23:50.500 And I think there is some talk about telegram, but the real problem is going to be with Twitter

01:23:55.260 because Musk is basically saying civil war is inevitable.

01:23:59.020 He's coming down hard saying that basically this is tyranny, that there is two-tier policing.

01:24:05.240 He has a lot of sway.

01:24:06.520 He doesn't have the institutional power or the governmental power that others do, but he

01:24:11.680 is the richest man in the world, and Twitter is the world's leading micro-blogging site.

01:24:16.380 He's got a lot of sway.

01:24:18.360 And I think there will be major clampdowns across social media.

01:24:25.020 And those people who have arranged violence using WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger are probably

01:24:32.380 going to be in a great deal of trouble because I can't imagine Zuckerberg being reluctant to

01:24:37.400 hand over their data to the British government.

01:24:39.640 So, yeah, big changes coming with social media.

01:24:44.300 They've been wanting to get rid of telegram for a while.

01:24:47.020 Will this be their chance?

01:24:48.300 I think telegram could get delisted from app stores, but it is a Russian-owned app, so you'd

01:24:55.520 still be able to basically sideload it onto any phone that you wanted.

01:25:00.940 And as time goes by, I think there's going to be more and more mainstream platforms cut

01:25:08.900 off to anyone who talks common sense.

01:25:11.340 I mean, you and I were both on YouTube when, you know, we're huge on YouTube.

01:25:16.380 YouTube is basically dead now to most nationalist content creators, you know, and I think anyone

01:25:24.680 that sticks by free speech will face the full wrath of the government eventually.

01:25:31.140 Yeah, exactly.

01:25:32.200 Indeed.

01:25:32.360 Yeah, here's Elon tweeting about that.

01:25:33.780 A war monitor, which has been an awful account on this particular issue.

01:25:37.080 Why exactly is Elon Musk trying to instigate a civil war in Europe?

01:25:40.080 Well, he's not instigating anything.

01:25:41.980 The establishment is who's instigated all of this.

01:25:44.280 He's simply noticing and saying, what the fuck is happening?

01:25:46.820 Like, anyone with a brain can see where this is going and see what's going on.

01:25:51.260 Before we do, a little plug for you guys and where people can find you.

01:25:54.040 Steve, any other kind of closing thoughts on that and what happens?

01:25:57.700 Obviously, the screws are going to tighten.

01:25:59.780 It's just a fact, and we know that they've wanted to do that anyway.

01:26:02.640 And I personally, I'm of the belief that I'm not one of these.

01:26:07.080 They're like, oh, see, now they're fighting and now they're clamping.

01:26:09.240 They would have clamped down anyway.

01:26:11.200 Like, as I say, they're building a surveillance grid, a prison grid, essentially, right, with

01:26:17.680 artificial intelligence.

01:26:19.320 I mean, Palantir is working on these technologies now.

01:26:21.840 Apparently, they're already in use in certain countries.

01:26:23.840 Alex Karp, their Jewish co-founder, talked about that in a clip recently that we played.

01:26:28.860 All of these technologies will be used against anybody that's seeking to kind of organize.

01:26:33.220 So either we just stay quiet, sit back, do nothing, hide away, think it's going to go away, and be imprisoned.

01:26:39.060 Or we, as they're building the prison, we try to fight back, right?

01:26:42.840 Those are our options.

01:26:45.020 Steve, thoughts?

01:26:45.740 Well, this is it.

01:26:47.500 You can either lay down and take it, or you can resist by any means necessary.

01:26:52.220 That's pretty much the situation we're in in the UK.

01:26:55.000 But in terms of banning people from social media and stuff, in a way, it will be a blessing

01:27:00.740 in terms of building up a movement.

01:27:03.540 Because I have the theory that social media hinders us from getting organized, because it

01:27:11.320 takes away the notion of the fact that we have to meet in person.

01:27:14.880 We have to do this.

01:27:15.860 We have to sit there and have discussions and get organized, because it's so easy to

01:27:19.560 just message someone on social media and feel like you're getting organized.

01:27:22.700 But in reality, you're getting distracted with all of these stupid videos and non-issues

01:27:27.320 and news, and you're not really focusing on getting organized.

01:27:30.400 So in a way, it will be incredibly frustrating in terms of messaging and propaganda and so on.

01:27:35.240 It will be frustrating to push that out.

01:27:37.680 But we've always found ways around it before in the past, so we would in the future.

01:27:41.100 But I do think people away from social media would be a benefit to our people in the long

01:27:47.740 run, because they could get more organized.

01:27:49.660 They'd have no choice but to meet people in person and get organized, because they couldn't

01:27:53.300 do it over social media.

01:27:54.700 That's an interesting take on it.

01:27:56.060 I agree with that.

01:27:57.800 Also, there's obviously that there is a vital component to information sharing and in order

01:28:02.920 to organize, right?

01:28:03.820 It's a double-edged sword of sorts that you can do a lot of things.

01:28:06.480 I'm not saying maybe mainstream social media platform out in the open.

01:28:09.500 Obviously, you could still, I hope, maybe, use other communication methods and things

01:28:13.540 like that, right?

01:28:14.100 But I guess accept or expect a complete, like, rigid just control of any type of information,

01:28:21.440 even, like, text, potentially.

01:28:23.020 Like, who knows?

01:28:23.620 I mean, we're looking at martial law.

01:28:25.080 It would seem like George, you know, Palestine peace-protesting Galloway guy would just, like,

01:28:31.020 send in the military, like, put the military, you know, on the ground, and, like, people

01:28:36.320 not calling for martial law, and it's the craziest thing you've ever seen in order to,

01:28:39.780 you know, control this.

01:28:40.540 It's crazy.

01:28:41.180 But anyway, we're going to start wrapping up there, because I know it's late for you

01:28:43.860 guys over there, and I really appreciate your time today.

01:28:45.840 It's been a great discussion, and I think that's really one of the more important things

01:28:49.080 here, to, like, we can observe and look at what, you know, what's happening on the

01:28:52.320 streets, and some people will be thinking it's wrong, and they'll, you know, they think

01:28:57.220 this is harming.

01:28:57.940 Some people will take great joy in this, and they're saying, finally, white people are 0.83

01:29:01.340 fighting back.

01:29:02.160 I, frankly, understand kind of both perspectives, although I'm, like, just to say, a spark has

01:29:09.020 been lit.

01:29:09.600 I still feel that, and that's very encouraging.

01:29:11.860 Now that, you know, we're going to reach a new plateau now, the next level, and it's

01:29:16.320 where the system, the state steps up.

01:29:18.600 It's both its censorship and its repression, right?

01:29:21.020 But from there, those new circumstances, you're going to have to engage in a completely new

01:29:25.040 level of fight, and ultimately, that step needs to happen.

01:29:27.760 And at some point, and it's better, as far as I'm concerned, you know, sooner rather

01:29:31.840 than later, to wait something, you know, wait for something like that.

01:29:35.560 Anyway, Steve, let's begin with you.

01:29:37.600 Give us some of the places where people can follow you, and again, if there's any other,

01:29:41.100 I guess, kind of closing thoughts or recommendations or tips that you have to British people out

01:29:46.420 there who are watching all of this go down, and, you know, whatever thoughts you might

01:29:49.840 have about it.

01:29:50.340 So, my advice to anyone, especially, like, those thinking about going protesting on the

01:29:56.540 weekend and stuff, is take precautions.

01:29:59.260 Be careful.

01:29:59.780 Don't get baited into something by the police, because that's exactly what they're going to

01:30:03.120 want.

01:30:04.640 We march on.

01:30:05.540 We move forwards.

01:30:07.180 And if people do want to follow me, I've seen you've got it up on the screen.

01:30:10.240 There's my social media.

01:30:11.020 That's pretty much the only place that's worth following me.

01:30:13.300 I do have a Telegram channel, but I'd be lying if I used it regularly, to be honest

01:30:17.940 with you.

01:30:18.860 It is there.

01:30:20.460 It's there.

01:30:21.160 It's there for when I eventually get booted off X or something like that.

01:30:24.440 But people just need to be careful when they're going out to these protests, because there

01:30:28.540 are violent foreigners running around looking to attack you and looking to wish you harm. 1.00

01:30:32.540 Take that into consideration when you go into these places, because we've seen English 0.99

01:30:36.000 lads walking down these streets.

01:30:37.940 They're on their own.

01:30:38.840 They've been attacked.

01:30:39.980 They've got an England flag with them or something.

01:30:41.940 Don't let that be you.

01:30:43.680 Use your brain.

01:30:44.720 That's all I can say to these people.

01:30:46.800 Absolutely.

01:30:47.340 Mark, plug your stuff.

01:30:49.060 And again, any closing thoughts here?

01:30:51.680 I just want to say to everyone, I think this has been a really uplifting stream.

01:30:55.300 Thank you, as always, Henry Kang.

01:30:56.860 My honor.

01:30:57.300 It's always a great pleasure to work with you.

01:30:58.800 But I think the message here is there's plenty of things that people can do.

01:31:06.660 We need to start thinking out of the box, but that allows more people to be involved.

01:31:10.840 Being involved in elections is difficult.

01:31:13.820 It's very hard work.

01:31:15.340 And it's something that not a lot of people can do.

01:31:18.080 Being involved in letter writing, being involved in the civil rights movement, being involved

01:31:22.920 in something that calls for change in a different and interesting way is something that more people

01:31:29.480 can get involved in.

01:31:30.800 It's something that everyone can play some part in.

01:31:34.060 And it's something that we must do.

01:31:36.260 We can achieve change, but we have to think differently in order to do that.

01:31:41.400 You can find me on Telegram, Gab, BitChute, Odyssey, and Rumble.

01:31:47.260 Thank you for being here, everybody.

01:31:48.860 All right.

01:31:49.220 Awesome.

01:31:49.640 Thank you, gentlemen.

01:31:50.260 I appreciate it.

01:31:50.740 I'll let you go, and I'll ring out and say bye to the audience here.

01:31:53.660 But thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for watching, but also to you guys, obviously, for joining

01:31:57.520 us.

01:31:58.240 Keep fighting over that voice, and we'll see you soon.

01:32:00.340 Okay?

01:32:00.780 Have a good one.

01:32:01.940 Take care.

01:32:02.380 All right.

01:32:02.860 Good night.

01:32:03.460 All right.

01:32:04.580 Awesome stuff.

01:32:05.360 Thank you, guys, for watching.

01:32:06.420 Hope you enjoyed that.

01:32:08.360 Good show.

01:32:09.160 Good things to consider, and a lot of thoughts about this, and a lot of concern at the same

01:32:16.160 time as kind of excitement, I guess, of sorts, because it's like, this has to happen.

01:32:20.960 You know what I mean?

01:32:21.380 I just don't see any other way about it.

01:32:24.760 It's inevitable.

01:32:25.680 It has to happen.

01:32:27.660 Shit has to pop off, and people have to get engaged, and they're going to get the boot 0.99

01:32:31.500 stamped down on them.

01:32:32.280 What are you going to do?

01:32:32.880 It's like, you know, kind of we've mentioned a couple of times here tonight, but it's like

01:32:37.280 either you lay down and you die, or you fight and you die, and then, of course, you at least

01:32:42.220 stand a 50-50 chance.

01:32:43.540 Then, if you fight, you might win.

01:32:45.260 And all these people that might go to Jay, you know, we showed some of the screenshots

01:32:49.880 here, too, right?

01:32:52.420 Number of them.

01:32:53.140 Let me see if I can find them here, right?

01:32:54.340 Of, like, them clamping down on people.

01:32:56.800 Let me see.

01:32:57.420 Here's one guy, right?

01:32:59.060 Convicted for a Facebook post, for example.

01:33:03.860 Someone else.

01:33:04.460 I'm not sure if this is the guy, same guy there as in the image there or not, but Coles.

01:33:10.460 I've been doxxed and arrested over my tweets, mate.

01:33:13.200 Police accused me of inciting violence and racial hatred.

01:33:15.660 Welcome to fucking England, where packies are allowed to rape our girls, but we get 1.00

01:33:20.060 arrested for mean words online, right?

01:33:23.440 That's how insane this is right now.

01:33:26.040 That's how insane it is.

01:33:27.400 And we know that those are the new circumstances, right?

01:33:30.980 But on the upside is, when we win, we can let these people go, right?

01:33:36.360 We can let them out of jail.

01:33:37.440 We can let them out of prison.

01:33:38.300 We have to believe that we can win, even if it seems insurmountable, if we don't have

01:33:42.560 that willpower and dedication, and you need to act like you've won, not in a stupid way,

01:33:49.780 obviously.

01:33:50.160 I understand this.

01:33:51.200 You can't have your head in the clouds, right?

01:33:53.480 You've got to have them firmly on the ground, but it's about your vision, right?

01:33:58.640 That you have to imagine that this is possible, and you have to know that it is possible,

01:34:02.860 and you have to hold that in your mind.

01:34:04.380 And I'm telling you, a lot of this comes down to, you know, I'm not saying it's all

01:34:08.020 in the mind, but it sounds good, but I'm just saying, if you don't believe it, you will

01:34:13.500 act from a point of view where you will inevitably doubt yourself.

01:34:18.580 And I'm seeing some people go in that direction, too, right?

01:34:21.160 Oh, well, it's over.

01:34:22.340 Oh, well, that's it.

01:34:24.200 You know, look at all these Muslims that are out or whatever.

01:34:26.040 Yeah, well, the majority of British people are not out.

01:34:28.240 Remember I showed that one photo of, like, the foot?

01:34:31.240 Take the football hooligans alone, or just the crowds of soccer, as Americans say, right?

01:34:36.300 The football fans out there.

01:34:39.080 Tons of people.

01:34:39.800 I remember seeing footage from, it was Germany, some of these supporter clubs.

01:34:44.680 And I know they've tried to kind of gayify them and, like, make them anti-racist or whatever, 0.63

01:34:48.460 you know, stuff like that, obviously, for obvious reasons.

01:34:50.340 But, like, if those people could get, you know, like, mobilized, you know what I mean?

01:34:55.960 Like, there are so many people in those types of environments that are now just, like, you know,

01:35:00.480 they drink their pints and they watch their television or they go to these football games

01:35:04.340 that obviously need to get involved.

01:35:06.780 And that comes down to information flow.

01:35:08.620 Like, do they know that a million British young girls have been raped, gang-raped pedophiles,

01:35:16.600 foreign pedophiles have gang-raped a million young girls in England, in the UK, wide of UK, 0.98

01:35:24.440 over the course of decades?

01:35:26.560 Are they fully aware?

01:35:28.200 Have that coin dropped to some of those people, right?

01:35:31.880 It's our job to get that information to them, awaken them, spread the word, get it out,

01:35:36.680 keep pumping, keep pushing, keep pushing back, do everything, work on every level at the same time,

01:35:41.480 get engaged, support people that get engaged, be there, you know, put your, as the leftist,

01:35:46.260 put your bodies on the line, but that's just kind of what it is.

01:35:49.360 You can show up at these protests, but you don't have to do anything illegal

01:35:52.240 that are going to get you in trouble.

01:35:56.340 And show yourself, you know what I mean?

01:35:57.640 Get out there, do something.

01:36:00.680 Yeah, as Mark said, there's so many things to do, but it's incredible times.

01:36:04.320 And overall, I'm encouraged, you know what I mean?

01:36:07.520 Overall, I'm encouraged that it's going in this direction because it has to.

01:36:13.700 Something has to change here, right?

01:36:15.440 These people are allowed to murder and rape our daughters and our elderly and attack people.

01:36:24.140 And you have the entire system just like, oh, we're making, you know, safe for the Muslims.

01:36:29.240 Did we show the headline?

01:36:30.620 We did.

01:36:31.620 We're strengthening protection for Muslim communities across the UK.

01:36:35.380 This is all they've said.

01:36:36.060 Like, you know, it's clear that they've chosen the Islamic faction as a, it's an extension to the police force now,

01:36:44.740 essentially, that's what it is.

01:36:46.460 And they're desperately wanting them to be on their side.

01:36:49.100 There's footage coming out of them giving tea and, you know, biscuits to, like, the police officers,

01:36:53.680 the Muslims, you know what I mean?

01:36:54.620 It's them and the state against the native British people.

01:36:59.900 And you have to put your foot down.

01:37:02.060 You have to stand.

01:37:02.980 You have to fight.

01:37:03.780 You have to push back.

01:37:05.360 But again, but it is also, having said that, vital that you don't do dumb, rash, and stupid shit.

01:37:12.220 There's a lot of people out there that want to wrap you up into that and get you engaged in stupid stuff.

01:37:16.040 You don't have to be stupid about it.

01:37:17.140 There's a lot of things you can do and should do that are not stupid, that are smart.

01:37:24.320 But it comes down to organization and capacity.

01:37:26.780 Don't be a low-impulse control nigg-nogg about these kinds of issues. 1.00

01:37:31.300 Be a white man, white man, and be smarter about this. 0.56

01:37:34.240 Don't walk into those traps, but also fight.

01:37:37.180 Don't be a coward, you know what I mean?

01:37:39.420 So it's both, right?

01:37:41.220 It's not one or the other.

01:37:42.600 It's actually both at the same time, right?

01:37:45.520 It's a smart fight.

01:37:47.900 Ideally, every single man in the UK would line up and they would just take whatever instrument they can find and go and destroy their enemy.

01:37:57.280 Yes, ideally, you know what I mean?

01:38:00.000 But at this point, you're not going to get that.

01:38:01.800 And you're going to win any battles by going out there by being one or two or three or five or maybe even 20 people.

01:38:06.960 It's just not going to happen.

01:38:07.960 You're just simply way too outnumbered.

01:38:12.080 So you have to join with some other people.

01:38:14.380 You have to join mass movements and protest and nudge and push and get those in the right direction, essentially, and help to steer and push.

01:38:22.720 You know what I mean?

01:38:24.940 All right.

01:38:26.380 I think we caught up there.

01:38:28.940 Thank you, guys, for the support today.

01:38:30.760 We appreciate it.

01:38:32.480 We're going to be back here.

01:38:33.880 I might do a no-go zone tomorrow, actually.

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01:38:56.940 And it's vital in these times.

01:38:58.800 This is our wheelhouse.

01:38:59.800 This is what it's all about right here in terms of what's happening now.

01:39:02.900 And it's starting in England, but this is going to, as we know, it's going to spread to other countries as well.

01:39:07.600 It is inevitable.

01:39:08.860 This is the future of every single European country because there's not going to be any top-down changes happening at this point.

01:39:16.860 It's just not going to happen.

01:39:18.080 So it needs to be bottom-up, right?

01:39:20.300 Grassroots what actually people want.

01:39:22.480 And if these establishment hacks refuse to listen, well, then so be it.

01:39:26.600 You know what I mean?

01:39:27.600 This is the language they've chosen to speak.

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01:41:04.580 Okay, all right, I think that's it.

01:41:06.000 Let me double check one more time here on Odyssey, make sure we're caught up.

01:41:09.460 Let me see here, we had the Virginian Drifter, good to see you, sir, says Inspire and Educate.

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01:42:16.440 Okie dokie, my shout-out to all my Brits out there watching, Englishmen, Welsh, Scottish, Irish even, they have their own, you know, issue over in Ireland right now as well, they've been fighting back, obviously, but yeah, all the Celts, Anglos, Saxons, whatever other European ethnic group is there on those islands and fighting back, I know it's going to spread to other parts of Europe as well, as I said, right?

01:42:40.720 But shout-out to all you boys out there as well fighting, and, you know, girls for that matter too, ladies over there doing what you can in this new developments and new circumstances.

01:42:51.540 But anyway, thank you so much, guys, we really appreciate you, keep up the good fight, and we'll see you soon. Take care.

01:43:10.720 We'll see you soon.

01:43:40.720 See you on the other side.

01:44:10.720 Bye.

01:44:20.260 Bye.

01:44:31.280 Bye.

01:44:33.200 Bye.

01:44:33.980 Bye.

01:44:35.540 Hi.

01:44:35.720 Bye.

01:44:37.220 Bye.

01:44:37.820 Bye.

01:44:38.800 Bye.

01:44:39.800 I'm a fire starter. Twisted fire starter.

01:45:09.800 I'm a fire starter.

01:45:39.800 I'm a fire starter.

01:46:10.340 Try out Signal, Enric.

01:46:12.320 Is that open source and encrypted?

01:46:13.840 Wasn't that started by one of the CIA guys?

01:46:15.560 Wasn't that one of the jokes with that?

01:46:17.560 It was like, oh, you should certainly try Signal.

01:46:20.000 I'm not saying it's like super bad.

01:46:21.500 I don't know too much about it.

01:46:22.560 I just heard that.

01:46:23.180 That was one of the rumors.

01:46:24.420 But yeah, there's other comparable type of things as well,

01:46:27.020 type of apps and stuff like that,

01:46:28.180 which supposedly, allegedly actually are encrypted, secure,

01:46:31.940 and I guess your government can't spy on them.

01:46:35.400 Thank you, Frank.

01:46:36.180 Appreciate the input on that.

01:46:37.960 All right, guys.

01:46:38.600 We'll see you later.

01:46:39.580 Take care, everyone.

01:46:40.180 Take care.

01:46:53.040 Take care.

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Red Ice TV - August 07, 2024

UK Riots： Race Chaos, Violence & Police State With Mark Collett & Steve Laws

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