Steve and Mark Collett join me to discuss the events in Southport and beyond. We talk about the rise of the far-right and the rise in anti-Muslim violence, and what we can learn from it all.
00:04:04.140It's always a highlight when I come on Red Ice.
00:04:07.660I always really enjoy working with you.
00:04:09.760Very professional setup, and it's great to see you guys going from strength to strength and covering, well, this important story, which just keeps running and running.
00:04:18.920I mean, usually when these things happen, they tend to fizzle out after one weekend, but we're all the way into the middle of the week after, and things are still going, and apparently there are big plans at the weekend for protests.
00:04:34.460And I'll say this, Patriotic Alternative have got a protest planned, too, this weekend.
00:04:53.780It's just, to me, it's amazing that it's taken this long, to be honest, but here we are, whether it's the latest stabbing of these three young girls in Southport that was the one that would kick it off or not.
00:05:06.260It would have been the one the following week or a month later or a year later, perhaps, right?
00:05:12.140But I just want to get, I guess, some just initial impressions from you guys, because these things, one of the arguments I've been making is that these things are, you know, chaotic, right?
00:05:21.660There's going to be a shit show in every kind of capacity.
00:05:30.220They're going to burn, loot a store and a shop and all that stuff.
00:05:33.060And, of course, from, you know, shit libs on Twitter to mainstream media will argue, well, look at what the far-right thugs are doing here, you know, kind of thing.
00:05:41.440And there's no way to prove, like, what side who is on, really, and things like this.
00:05:45.760It's very decentralized as far as I understand it.
00:05:49.100Now, we have this aspect of, like, you know, the former, they've been defunct now, but obviously EDL, the media have spun this up as well.
00:05:54.780Tommy Robinson, we'll talk more about that a little bit later.
00:05:57.220How much have they kind of instigated when it comes to this?
00:05:59.480But otherwise, it seems, at least from my vantage point at this stage, a very grassroots type of thing.
00:06:06.600There's been some organization on the back end, but very, you know, very grassroots, very decentralized, which makes this very, very messy.
00:06:15.720Like, how do you, what was your initial reaction to this?
00:06:18.060And now, as Mark said, as he said, it's been kind of rolling on, you know, for several days now, and it doesn't seem to ease off.
00:06:25.760Where do you think this is going now, next?
00:06:27.740Well, the direction it goes is, personally, I think Britain's on the verge of ending up, sorry, Britain's on the verge of ending up like Northern Ireland, unfortunately.
00:06:39.420It seems like there's going to be a divide in society that's not going to be able to be mended.
00:06:43.980A complete different cultural society.
00:06:46.120The two groups of people absolutely despise each other.
00:07:07.500You had the attack at the airport with the Muslims and so on.
00:07:10.140And then there was various other little clashes happening here and there all over the country.
00:07:14.480And that was all pushing to a point where, ultimately, this was inevitable.
00:07:19.020These are things that we've been warning about for ages.
00:07:21.200These are why we campaign on policies such as remigration and so on, to try and avoid what's happening in front of us.
00:07:27.640These are things we've been warning about.
00:07:29.140So when all the chaos comes, the only people with a calm, sane, normal sense of direction are the nationalists, because they already knew this was going to happen.
00:32:02.800And we need to stop beating that dead horse.
00:32:06.560What we need in this country, and I've been saying it for years, I said at PA, not to be a political party, but to be a community-building group that advocates for the rights of the indigenous people of these islands.
00:32:20.820And PA, patriotic alternative, needs to now transition into a white advocacy group.
00:32:29.480We need to keep the community-building.
00:32:33.260And we need to start shifting towards a civil rights model for whites in the same vein that blacks and other groups had in the 1960s.
00:32:46.640We need to start thinking of ways that we can do letter-writing campaigns, like we did for Sam Melia when he had those unfair restrictions placed on him.
00:33:56.140You know, when the police attack us and brutalize us, we need to have mass letter-writing campaigns to the Independent Police Commission, Complaints Commission.
00:34:06.000We need to be contacting the Prison Reform Trust regularly about prisoners who have their rights taken away.
00:34:14.260We need to be doing all these things and many more.
00:34:17.100But what we don't need to be doing is pouring more money into fighting the same old elections.
00:34:26.200He's going to dominate that scene, reform with a £600 gorilla in the room.
00:34:30.840There's no point going up against them.
00:34:32.760And there's certainly no point trying to split their vote.
00:34:34.520I mean, how would you feel anyway if you went up against reform and Labour won by 15 votes and you got 100 votes that would have gone to reform?
00:38:25.260And it'd be a massive show of force in front of these government offices.
00:38:28.480Maybe the police now, they're like, you know, setting up tons of different, you know, more personnel to just monitor social media to go after people.
00:38:36.660Steve, what do you think about some of the ideas in terms of like the time?
00:38:39.720How much time do we have here, you know?
00:38:42.420So the time schedule is something we have no control on, unfortunately, and can change.
00:39:30.500But like Mark was saying, in terms of building up your own civil rights movement and actually playing the game properly is the only way, unfortunately, that we have a way in.
00:40:07.740There's other things like if, say, you're an influential person within your gym, start building a community network within those people.
00:40:16.940If you're popular within your town and stuff, start getting a network of people.
00:40:21.340So if problems do occur, you can help your own people.
00:40:24.400So say, let's just use a random example.
00:40:27.540Say one of our own's house gets burgled by a migrant that's came over on a boat and their life's been ruined.
00:40:33.040And we could have a community of people there to go around, help them, get their life back on track, rebuild their home and so on.
00:40:39.940But all of these things are the ways that we can move forward and help in our own.
00:40:43.540Because we can't take ourselves out of the system, but we can build ourselves around the system where we can build a protective bubble the same way that all of these little communities do.
00:40:56.600We need to start looking out for our own and only our own.
00:41:00.060And we have to be completely unapologetic about it.
00:41:34.960What do you think of the timing issue, Mark, in terms of how much time we have?
00:41:38.740Because part of that, it makes me also feel that it's kind of retreating.
00:41:42.880But at the same time, what can you do, right?
00:41:46.720Because if you just put yourself in a situation where you will just get arrested or whatever and they'll just put you in the slammer, that's not going to help anybody.
00:41:54.140In fact, now you've taken away people that are at least willing to fight, right?
00:41:57.540I just think there will be this – there's just this inevitable escalation here that just is taking place.
00:42:03.980And part of me is almost like, well, the sooner kind of the better.
00:42:07.500And again, it's not that this is encouraging.
00:42:16.340And in the past, nationalists have always measured the time we've got in terms of when are we going to be a minority.
00:42:26.980So there's this date in the minds of most nationalists, which is 2066, which ironically is exactly 1,000 years since the invasion, the Norman invasion.
00:42:41.020So there's this date, 2066, where we officially tick over and become a minority.
00:42:46.540And people say, well, that's the time we've got left.
00:42:48.960And if we don't do it before that date, we've lost.
00:42:52.680Now, I don't think there's a hard and fast timescale.
00:42:57.560Now, if you want an all-out electoral victory majority, that's what you're looking for, then maybe that date has – maybe there is an expiry date.
00:43:16.100South Africa, whites are still surviving.
00:43:18.960They're in a much worse state than us.
00:43:21.120But interestingly, South Africa presents one of the world's most inspiring case studies of what can be done when white people think outside the box.
00:43:34.660You know, say, look, we're not going to try and win this back via the ballot box.
00:43:38.000We're going to do something different.
00:44:11.300Muslims are probably the best example of that in the UK.
00:44:14.700They have aggressively imported their own culture to the exclusion of ours, to the point where these areas are no longer British in any sense.
00:44:23.980They are built on British soil, but they are outposts of a foreign country.
00:44:30.000They are Pakistan or, you know, wherever, on British soil with their language, their religion, their community centers, their religious buildings, their social customs, etc., etc., etc.
00:44:48.300And from that springs local political power because they're clustered together as one.
00:44:55.160We need to start thinking along those lines as well.
00:44:58.180We need to start thinking about creating our own little enclaves.
00:45:04.480We need to think about creating white heartlands.
00:45:08.980You know, when you look at the situation in Britain, people often talk in fanciful terms about things like civil war, about things like race war.
00:45:19.860What will happen is the kind of separation that was seen in Northern Ireland.
00:45:25.620You will see a racial sectarianism where different racial or ethnic groups live in their own areas and live amongst their own and don't really like other groups coming into their areas.
00:45:39.600Now, there will be places where people mix.
00:46:10.640And we should also, as that is taking place, build this civil rights movement.
00:46:15.880Because if we're not in some way planning now to be a minority and what we should do as and when that happens, that's a bad thing to not think in those terms.
00:46:29.180Because it is likely, and we've seen this elsewhere in the country, we are a minority in London.
00:46:36.100We will be a minority in many major cities within the next decade if we're not in that position already.
00:46:43.620We need to start planning for getting white people out of those areas, for building areas for our people where we can be safe, where we've got our own heartlands.
00:46:52.200And then we need legal and social representation for our people when we've created those heartlands.
00:46:59.260These are sensible, forward-thinking solutions that don't rely on spending millions and millions and millions of pounds on elections.
00:47:09.560To stand a candidate in all of the mainland seats in Britain would cost a political party around two and a half million.
00:47:19.740The last time the Conservative Party won an election, it cost them $16 million.
00:47:26.860These are phenomenal sums of money, sums of money that nationalists have never really had access to,
00:47:33.200and sums of money that frankly wouldn't even guarantee you a win in those elections.
00:47:38.160But let's say we did raise a couple of million, imagine what could be done if we were buying land, buying property,
00:47:45.740starting to build our own institutions, starting to build, not homeschooling,
00:47:53.120but a network of mums that come together, buy a building, and start schooling as a collective.
00:48:00.100There are things that we can do, but we need to start thinking outside of that old,
00:48:08.580well, if we raise two million, we can fight this many seats, we can get four percent in the election,
00:48:13.680and the day after it will all be forgotten.
00:48:15.400Yeah, one difference there, of course, between these groups, right,
00:48:21.380that the kind of the Muslims are encouraged to have there,
00:48:23.840so obviously the Pakis, you have maybe the Indians, you have the Jews, as you said,
00:48:29.140Africans, Sub-Saharan Africans, they can have their stuff, right?
00:48:32.040The difference with us, though, right, is that you have also the entire now,
00:48:35.520majority still white, shit-lib, anti, in this case, native British establishment in the UK,
00:48:42.280working against us having any of those things, right,
00:48:46.540that, like, we are not allowed to have the same that they do.
00:48:50.440In other words, like, take examples in the US, and much of this is mirrored now
00:48:54.040because it's just a big anti-white Occident that we live in, essentially, here,
00:48:57.800and it's like, here are racist zip codes.
00:49:00.420We're going to take people from this area and intentionally try to place them.
00:49:03.680If that means the state buys up housing or they build housing in the middle of those areas
00:49:08.660that they see are too disproportionately white, they will do that, right?
00:49:12.140So I'm not saying don't do what you recommend.
00:49:14.500I'm just saying there's so much there that we also have, that we're working against,
00:49:19.160that we will not be granted the same rights, right, as other people.
00:52:26.320If people in this movement, on the fringes, spent more time saying, let's give this a go and less time whining about why things can't work,
00:52:43.240Workers of England are winning victories.
00:52:45.560And the people thinking outside the box are the ones winning the big victories.
00:52:50.260The people who are losing money, who are losing ground, are the ones doing the same thing we've done for the past 40 years, which is fight these fruitless elections.
00:53:26.820All of these things are taking shape, but they'll only take shape and they'll only progress if people have a can-do attitude and are willing to start thinking outside the box.
00:53:38.780And I want to emphasize that, that it's not just about the one thing over here or the one thing over there.
00:53:45.260There, as you said, like, of course, like, write these letters.
00:53:48.880That's the least, what does that take you?
00:54:11.300There's multiple things that needs to be done and people need to get engaged or we are going to go extinct.
00:54:16.800This is the same in every Western country now, right?
00:54:20.120It's not just about the one thing that you need or can't do.
00:54:23.180And the people that are just, as you said, constantly grinding things to a halt and they're blackpilling, don't do that, don't do this, just shut up and get out of the way then, at least.
00:54:32.680Like, if you're unwilling to do anything, if you don't want to do it or you think this one thing is the way to go, good, act, do something then, you know, instead of whining on others kind of thing, right?
00:54:43.700Here you got people that have, like, ideas, we're trying to figure this shit out, what do we do, what's it, you know, and you do all of it.
00:54:49.740And it's not that one person can do all of these things, but we need a range of solutions out there and we need to put effort, dedication, resources, funds, you know, into every single one of them.
00:55:02.960Because we don't know which one of them is going to be the, you know, the success here, so to speak.
00:55:08.840It might be a combination of all of them, in fact.
00:55:11.260But engagement is vital in how people portion their time.
00:55:14.460Ultimately, the survival of your people needs to be your interest.
00:55:18.120That needs to be how we live our lives.
00:55:19.640Anyways, Steve, what's your thoughts on some of this here?
00:55:36.120That's even if, like, you just go out and deliver some leaflets with our messaging on or you, I don't know, like you're saying, like Mark says, writes a letter or you could write articles or you could even promote other people's work.
00:55:50.200There's all sorts of things you can do as a nationalist that can further our cause.
00:55:56.000It doesn't even have to be anything face out.
00:55:58.340You don't even have to put your name to stuff.
00:56:01.780But you can't sit back, criticize people that are working their ass off unless you've got genuine reason to criticize those people.
00:56:09.860Like, for instance, when we come down the route of criticizing Tommy Robinson and stuff, that's genuine criticism.
00:56:15.020But when it comes to the point of, like, arguing amongst one another, when we pretty much all agree on the same points, it's just we disagree on the approach.
00:56:27.940That's pretty much where all the argument comes from in terms of nationalism.
00:56:32.000So you'll have one person, so say person A, will think, right, we need to do the electoral route.
00:56:38.240Person B will go, well, actually, there's no political solution.
00:56:41.380Person C will say we could do a bit of both.
00:56:43.280And then person D will go, you're all fucking idiots.
00:56:53.460And then we're attacking from every single angle.
00:56:56.140But as I see at the moment, and this isn't no disrespect towards anyone, there isn't many active nationalists doing a lot of things at the moment.
00:57:05.720There's a lot of nationalists, but there's not coming up when starting new campaigns and doing things.
00:57:10.660And I'm one of them myself, like, I haven't been doing what I'd usually do, which would be going down to the docks and filming all the illegals coming over and highlighting all the immigration.
00:57:20.240Because sometimes it takes a lot of time.
00:57:21.860So there are, like, I'm as guilty as everyone else in terms of sometimes you get a bit lazy with things.
00:57:27.220But there's no excuse to do nothing, in my opinion.
00:58:38.980I don't think this is some Zionist plot, although that could be, like, a small element of this or something.
00:58:44.740Let's try to steer this into some, I don't know, some support for war on Iran or something.
00:58:49.780But it seems so, in the scope of things, in terms of what's happening in Britain right now, kind of insignificant or whatever.
00:58:55.360So I'm not sure how much weight to put behind that.
00:58:57.920Mark, do you want to say anything about this whole debacle with Tommy and all that?
00:59:02.500Well, I don't know, really, what Tommy has been doing over on X.
00:59:08.020A lot of papers are saying that he's been publishing places for people to go to.
00:59:13.720I don't know whether that's true or not.
00:59:15.560If he has, he may well be in some trouble.
00:59:20.560What I will say about Tommy Robinson is he's not all bad.
00:59:25.980And, you know, I have differences with him.
00:59:28.260But, you know, when it comes down to it, there are tens and tens of thousands of normal, working, white British men and lads who love him, listen to everything he says.
00:59:41.100And fundamentally, he has been pulled more in our direction of late.
00:59:47.700However, he is still a massive fan of Israel.
00:59:51.340But, again, I don't think a single person who's been out protesting over the last couple of days has been doing it for Israel or for Jews or for Zionism.
01:00:03.560They're doing it because they're sick of what's happening to Europeans.
01:00:09.680They're sick of what's happening to the English, you know, the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh.
01:00:13.540They're done with seeing their children being butchered.
01:00:19.880And I would love to debate him on certain things.
01:00:23.320But the fact of the matter is he does have a bigger following than any of us.
01:00:28.460And when, you know, if he was in England now and he called for a march through London about this particular issue, I think there'd be 100,000 people there.
01:00:37.940Yeah, the problem with Tom is he's a multiculturalist at the end of the day, right?
01:00:43.420So it's like, okay, what slant do you want to have?
01:00:45.900You want to have your Calurgi, you know, multiracial civilization kind of wrapped in like some patriotic but still kind of Christian thing?
01:00:54.360Or do you want the shit-lipped version of the Calurgi?
01:00:56.460And to me, it's kind of impossible in a way.
01:01:19.820I'm not sure how you can form a coalition with someone who's a multiracialist at the end of the day.
01:01:23.520I think his big problem, Tommy's big problem, and I've said this on many streams, is Tommy's ideology is that multiculturalism fundamentally works.
01:01:37.000However, it stops working once you introduce Islam.
01:01:41.200So, you know, Islam is the spoke in the wheel that prevents everything turning.
01:01:47.820And if you removed Islam, we'd all get along fine.
01:01:52.740You know, much of the knife crime, if not the vast majority of knife crime that you see taking place on the streets of Britain is not carried out by Muslim youths.
01:02:03.320It's carried out by black youths, youths who were born here and are the descendants of the hallowed Windrush generation.
01:02:11.640You know, I don't want Britain to be overtaken by Afro-Caribbeans any more than I want it to be overtaken by Muslims.
01:02:17.640However, Tommy does tap into this Islamic issue and people do listen to him because for most British people, the most jarring example of multicultural failure is Islam.
01:02:33.260And over the last few days, you know, we have seen large, you know, protests on the streets carried out by, you know, native Brits.
01:02:46.180But at the same time, the counterbalance to that has been almost completely from Muslims.
01:02:54.020And when Muslims do come out, it is very scary for normal people.
01:02:59.140They see very disciplined, militarized men carrying weapons, chanting phrases like Al-Akbar, which to the average person is what somebody shouts before they detonate themselves.
01:03:13.100And that is something that Tommy taps into.
01:03:15.460He taps into that absolute understandable fear of the Islamization of Britain.
01:03:21.800And as a British person, there are few things as jarring and as disturbing as traveling through one of these Muslim areas and feeling as if you were literally in a foreign country, whereas, you know, you know you're on British soil, but you feel as if you're in a foreign country.
01:03:41.000And Tommy embodies this country's or white people's dislike of that feeling.
01:03:49.280Let me take a couple of these chats here to see here.
01:03:53.040Enlightened Despot over on Rumble says, it's now about the end game, our security.
01:03:58.100We need a settlement with these foreign colonies, bottle them up, designate land for our laws and traditions, minority rights for Europeans.
01:04:05.700And I agree with you, but it's that like we can we can do.
01:04:08.980But it's more of that, like, you know, look, it's like Spain.
01:04:10.900You got to look at those historical examples. Right.
01:04:12.640I don't think we'll take that long, but it took them 700 years to get their country back.
01:04:16.060And even even ethnically, they were kind of altered because of it.
01:04:19.660And I refuse that. You got to start somewhere. Right.
01:04:22.760And that's the thing. You got to work on multiple levels of multiple times.
01:04:25.700At the end of the day, people need to get serious about this.
01:04:29.440People need to get engaged. That's where that's what this is about.
01:04:32.640We need we need numbers. It's not that we a highly organized minority can do a lot, but ultimately we need more people that can then contribute their time, their resources, their knowledge, their expertise, whatever profession they're in, et cetera, towards these kinds of causes.
01:04:47.700And that's the other question I have here. But before I take some of the other chats, is there is there anybody, do you think a wealthier person, the industrial class, the monarchy, not the monarchy, but like an upper class in England or the UK wider looking at this, seeing this people that have means and resources and like what's happening here kind of thing.
01:05:14.240I mean, I know to a large extent they're very isolated from this, which is obviously, as you guys have said now, this is why it's working class people that are out there like taking the brunt of this, obviously.
01:05:23.400Right. But at some point, I'm not saying sit down and wait for someone else to fix this.
01:05:27.220Don't don't you know, don't think that. But I'm saying surely at some point there has to be people with means and resources getting involved.
01:05:34.300Steve, what do you think? Is that a is that a possibility? Is that is that are they going to are any of these people going to wake up to what the hell is going on to your country?
01:05:40.900Well, this is the thing. A lot of these people are very aware of what's going on, but they profit from it.
01:05:46.820So it's changing the status quo for these people that are earning a very large amount of money from the destruction of the country.
01:05:53.480So by that notion, they're not going to switch to our side. But you would like to think I understand what you're saying.
01:05:59.220You would like to think that there are people within the establishment who have money, who have resources, who have connections that would share our cause and ultimately lend a hand.
01:06:09.060Because their shift is going to burn down, too. All right. If this continues, the spiraling violence and chaos.
01:06:14.980Well, this is the thing. We're all in it together, essentially, but we're not.
01:06:18.100This is how there's there's there's ultimately there's enough lifeboats for the upper elites, but there isn't enough for everyone else.
01:06:25.060So waiting on those people to come forward is something that's been happening in nationalism for decades.
01:06:30.800Like there's always they've always been waiting for a wealthy benefactor to come through and help push the cause forward.
01:06:36.520But it's it's just a pipe dream. Unfortunately, it would be nice to have the establishment on side.
01:06:42.880But not all of them, but just like, you know, like a few, you know, can we get three?
01:06:48.220I'm sure there are plenty that are sympathetic to us, like make no mistake.
01:06:52.580There's probably an awful lot of sympathetic, but because of their social status and where they're at, it would be like suicide for them to even contemplate the idea of even entertaining, having a discussion with, say, someone like myself or Mark.
01:07:05.380It just wouldn't ever be on their interest.
01:07:07.620If you look at Jacob Rees-Mogg, former MP, he's what you would call part of the establishment and so on.
01:07:16.300He met with a traditional Britain group and he almost his career was almost finished because of that.
01:07:21.540And the traditional Britain group aren't even radical in a way.
01:07:24.400They're more of like a slightly to the right conservative group, if anything, probably more nationalist these days.
01:07:31.260But at the time, they very weren't there weren't exactly anything radical.
01:08:51.580But this is, you know, some of the things that have been going around today where we had various pundits talking about how basically social media needs to be essentially shut down in the UK in order to stop the spread in their terms of myths and disinformation.
01:09:04.680Again, this is about them ensuring it's an insurance policy for them.
01:09:09.220Right. This is to ensure that the establishment that are doing this are not exposed and that the people don't understand what really is going on.
01:09:15.840And they want to have one singular, you know, news outlet, whatever, BBC or something, I guess, just to, you know, to drive the line of what's happening and why these are, you know, these things are happening.
01:09:25.960I think it's too late, but we'll see what they do.
01:09:28.240Archie says a worker strike in the Arab Spring of 2010 persuaded the kings to acquiesce the peasants demands.
01:09:36.100Why won't a white strike work in the UK?
01:09:38.440Do whites suffer from cancel culture, but Arab nations don't?
01:09:42.700You have the aspect of that being slightly gay opt, if I remember correctly, right?
01:09:46.640There was like kind of, I think there was like intelligence services.
01:09:51.280Egypt had a huge debt to the, I mean, it wasn't only in Egypt, obviously, but that was a big part of it was in Egypt was a lot of that Arab Spring stuff happened.
01:10:01.920Huge debt to the US and the fact that they went in and tried to kind of steer or whatever.
01:10:05.840And it could be something genuine there, of course, as well.
01:10:08.700I'd love to see a white strike, right?
01:10:10.260That's what some people have talked about.
01:10:11.300Again, I can't directly, I guess, kind of allude to things.
01:10:15.680You can look at what the communist, you know, protest did, right?
01:10:21.020Again, very different here because they still have their ethnic component fully being a majority in their own country.
01:10:25.760But you still have those things, right?
01:10:27.000In other types of scenarios or historical examples, you have things where systems of commerce are interfered with or transportation or like all these other things, all these other things of what could happen kind of along the way that some people might decide that they think is a good idea to do.
01:10:47.240But quickly on that, guys, Mark, to start with you, like, again, it's about the organization, right?
01:10:54.020Numbers, you're not going to just be able to do a tweet and say, let's do this and get everyone on your page.
01:10:58.780That's what's so hard about it, right?
01:11:00.060But ultimately, yeah, like a white strike, I guess, Mark, like shut down the system, grind it to a halt in a legal manner.
01:11:08.840Like, what's the possibility of something like that?
01:11:12.040Well, that's exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about earlier.
01:11:14.700You know, I've talked about letter writing, nonviolent resistance.
01:11:17.800You know, a white strike is a good idea.
01:11:19.380I mean, one thing that I put forward, Tommy Robinson's got a lot more reach than I have.
01:11:25.020Now, can you imagine if Tommy Robinson called an event in London and said, look, we're not going to do the event on a Saturday or Sunday.
01:11:33.420We're going to do it on a Monday morning and we're going to do it for two days.
01:11:38.140So I want you all to take two days off work, come down to London, and for 48 hours, we're going to sit down Whitehall and prevent any government minister, any civil servant, the prime minister himself doing his job.
01:11:53.100How long do you think they would last when they couldn't get their deliveroo, when they couldn't get their morning paper, when the couriers couldn't come in with their parcels or their Amazon deliveries?
01:12:09.380And if we sat there for 48 hours with people bringing, you know, people bring blankets, you know, obviously switch people out, tag people in and out as they could come, you know, make room for toilet breaks, bring people food and water.
01:12:23.940We could do something absolutely magnificent.
01:12:26.480And the only way people could deal with a white strike or with peaceful resistance is with absolute brutality threats and mask off craziness that would turn more people against them.
01:12:41.160But again, it's time to think outside the box.
01:12:44.380And it's time to start thinking how we can inconvenience them legally and peacefully.
01:12:51.260I wouldn't have said it, you know, maybe, well, maybe I would have met you like a few years ago, five years ago or something.
01:12:58.380Right. But like you need and I kind of I mean, I don't cringe is the right word, but like martyrs.
01:13:04.640Right. That it's it just kind of sucks.
01:13:06.780But like, yes, there's going to have to be people that take risks and they're going to have to be take a boot to the face by the system in order to for the system really to reveal itself.
01:13:17.680Because there is a benefit to that at the same time, as you say, right, that that you have to have that righteous anger being being, you know, sparked among people, among normal people.
01:13:27.640Imagine if more and it's not that they should be on the front lines or anything like that.
01:13:30.560But imagine more even more like older people also coming, you know, coming out and again, obviously being protected by the younger, more fit people if they're being attacked and things like this.
01:13:39.620But I'm saying just more people out on the streets like shut things down.
01:13:43.820You know what I mean? Like that. We need those kinds of things.
01:13:46.080But I genuinely feel that something like this could develop into that.
01:14:35.100So it's better just to lead those people rather than to sort of red, I don't know what the word is, red peel them or whatever people call it these days.
01:14:45.040And like Mark was saying, there are so many different approaches.
01:14:50.560Like Tommy Robinson, he had that 40,000, I think it was over 40,000, 50,000 people in London recently.
01:14:56.980If he said, like Mark said, had that on a Monday or even on a Friday afternoon, started it on a Friday afternoon just before everyone wanted to go home from work and it just kept everyone stood still and everyone's absolutely fuming.
01:15:12.200And yes, you're going to get people tarnishing your name all over the Internet and stuff because you've made them three hours late to go home for dinner or whatever.
01:15:20.540But things like that continuously start sowing problems within society for all of these establishment figures because they start thinking, well, we don't need this.
01:15:29.920This is why these Just Oil activists were so successful because they even understood the fact that the public is going to hate them.
01:15:37.860And they're still, I'm just using these as an example.
01:15:40.520So for what they believe in, they know the public are going to absolutely despise them for every bit of activism they do.
01:15:48.320They know that when they do their bits of activism, there's a good chance that some of their activists may even get attacked by the public for doing what they're doing.
01:15:55.780But when they're doing their stunts and they're doing their little bits of political activism, no one's getting hurt.
01:16:00.180There's no riots or nothing like that.
01:16:02.200But the whole country understands why they're there.
01:16:05.580The whole country knows their message, whether they like it or not.
01:16:09.220And that's something that we have to learn.
01:16:11.980Obviously, don't stand on bridges and things like that because people are going to prison for things like for those sort of things.
01:16:17.200But if you mirror some of the tactics that all of our enemies, all of the foreigners are doing and all of the leftists and so on, if you mirror these approaches and use them for our own people, we could really, really make a difference.
01:16:31.320Even just looking at, for instance, little things like the Black Lives Matter movement, they started with riots.
01:16:39.540But then after that, everything branched out.
01:16:42.620There was like, right, we want representation here.
01:37:47.900Ideally, every single man in the UK would line up and they would just take whatever instrument they can find and go and destroy their enemy.
01:38:07.960You're just simply way too outnumbered.
01:38:12.080So you have to join with some other people.
01:38:14.380You have to join mass movements and protest and nudge and push and get those in the right direction, essentially, and help to steer and push.
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01:42:16.440Okie dokie, my shout-out to all my Brits out there watching, Englishmen, Welsh, Scottish, Irish even, they have their own, you know, issue over in Ireland right now as well, they've been fighting back, obviously, but yeah, all the Celts, Anglos, Saxons, whatever other European ethnic group is there on those islands and fighting back, I know it's going to spread to other parts of Europe as well, as I said, right?
01:42:40.720But shout-out to all you boys out there as well fighting, and, you know, girls for that matter too, ladies over there doing what you can in this new developments and new circumstances.
01:42:51.540But anyway, thank you so much, guys, we really appreciate you, keep up the good fight, and we'll see you soon. Take care.