Red Ice TV - September 02, 2021


Western Liberal Gifts To Afghanistan


Episode Stats


Length

6 minutes

Words per minute

163.95607

Word count

1,035

Sentence count

97

Harmful content

Misogyny

1

sentences flagged

Hate speech

3

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Summary

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In this episode, we take a look at what the West has been trying to do to Afghanistan since the fall of the Taliban to make them into a modern democracy, and why it s so hard to live up to what they want.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Let me show you a story from the Insider first that exemplifies this, but we're also going to take a look at some, you know, with the women rights and the kind of art even that they were trying to push on Afghan women to push feminism on them and stuff.
00:00:15.180 It's the weirdest thing. But check out this one real quick here first before we look at that clip.
00:00:19.760 Several gay Afghans told Insider how they live in fear of their lives after the Taliban's victory.
00:00:25.720 Under the previous Taliban rule, the militant group executed gay men.
00:00:28.840 In tears, Rahman said that his life has felt like a nightmare ever since Kabul fell to the Taliban.
00:00:34.020 The names of the people that Insider spoke to have been changed, of course, right?
00:00:38.100 And then they talk about, you know, the sob story or whatever.
00:00:40.240 And then there was one guy here. This is kind of...
00:00:42.440 So where are these guys going, right?
00:00:44.760 Here's one guy, an activist here, an LGBTQ activist, Nemat Sadat.
00:00:50.240 He was the first public figure in Afghanistan to advocate for these gay rights.
00:00:55.280 But now, of course, he lives in the U.S.
00:00:57.440 He told Insider that he's helping gay Afghans apply for asylum.
00:01:02.840 So when you see all those flights of people exiting Afghanistan, it's this kind of quality, I guess, that Afghan... 1.00
00:01:10.620 Ironically, the U.S. is helping the Taliban to purge them of the undesirable elements out of the country.
00:01:19.800 And all these liberal LGBTQ pride-to-be activists are going to land in Western European nations, in the U.S., and all this crazy shit, right? 0.98
00:01:28.560 But check out this clip here.
00:01:31.680 This is a slice and a sample of what the American regime and some of the other Western countries that were in the region tried to push on Afghan women.
00:01:42.280 This is just incredible. This is from an Adam Curtis documentary. Look at this.
00:01:45.340 At the same time, thousands of experts and advisers flooded into Afghanistan.
00:01:54.100 Their aim was to transform the country into a modern democracy.
00:01:59.100 This optimistic vision of a future Afghanistan was celebrated in the Kabul Stadium.
00:02:04.020 It was the same stadium where the Russians had celebrated their new market for Afghanistan 20 years before.
00:02:11.020 Last year, we think that we never can be alive again. We will die. But now, we are thinking that we are alive again. And we are too happy.
00:02:23.140 And also, from America, that they help a lot. We are very appreciative of them. Thanks a lot.
00:02:30.060 I think now everything is normal. The man and woman can work in one place. And no any difference between them. And I think everything is going to good day by day.
00:02:43.500 And this is our school board. That's your school board. OK.
00:02:50.720 All kinds of groups came to Kabul to help the project.
00:02:54.020 It was like a snapshot of what those in power in America and Britain believed made democracy work.
00:03:02.860 As well as the obvious lessons in how to organise elections and conferences on how to stop the narcotics trade,
00:03:09.420 young Afghan students were also given lessons in how to make a conceptual art.
00:03:15.440 Here, look at this.
00:03:16.060 So, this is, in some ways, often called the first piece of conceptual art.
00:03:28.920 That's what you think it is. It's the urinal.
00:03:31.980 Oh, my God.
00:03:32.800 Does anyone know what it is?
00:03:37.360 I don't expect the ladies to. 1.00
00:03:38.860 Listen.
00:03:39.100 An artist called Marcel Duchamp, who's very important in Western art, put this toilet in an art gallery about a hundred years ago.
00:03:56.240 It was a huge revolution.
00:03:58.780 Oh, my God.
00:04:02.400 Oh, man.
00:04:03.980 This continues here, and they're showing them voting and all that stuff.
00:04:07.320 But do you see the clips of the Afghan women there?
00:04:10.780 Like, just confused.
00:04:12.960 What if it is this?
00:04:15.380 I mean, the West, and then you have these charades of, like, yes, I have, you know, the voting ink, you know, opportunity, like all these things.
00:04:22.040 Like, they think that they are going to be able to push a Western lifestyle on these people.
00:04:26.880 It's liberals.
00:04:27.380 It's liberals.
00:04:27.980 It's liberalism.
00:04:29.080 This is absolute insanity, right?
00:04:31.440 But it also shows you that the tools and the things that broke down Western societies and now led us to the breaking point here, essentially, are the same tools that we allow for these guys.
00:04:43.860 You know, pop music, and here's modern art, like all this degenerate stuff.
00:04:47.960 And, you know, I mean, it's, I don't know.
00:04:50.580 They're going to resist it much harder, though.
00:04:53.060 Yeah.
00:04:53.360 Yeah, of course.
00:04:54.440 And that's good.
00:04:55.220 And that's why I wish them, that's why I wish them well.
00:04:58.080 You know what I mean?
00:04:58.680 I wish them either a reason.
00:04:59.340 I think it's different in our case, too, because we've had subversives that have been within our country more so pushing this kind of stuff on us.
00:05:05.740 You know, we've grown up with it and everything.
00:05:07.540 Yeah.
00:05:07.980 No, it's very good.
00:05:08.640 They know it's like, oh, that's foreign stuff.
00:05:10.480 That's Western stuff.
00:05:11.780 Right.
00:05:12.120 Yeah.
00:05:12.420 But at some point we did, too, right?
00:05:14.020 I mean, it was when Duchamp wheeled this out, it was, like, heavily criticized.
00:05:18.780 And I think he even said, like, oh, well, no, no, I'm doing this for people 50 years down the line.
00:05:23.220 You won't understand this.
00:05:24.360 And now people are like, oh, it's the greatest art ever.
00:05:26.420 You know, like, this begun just having a turd in a jar, right, and selling that.
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