Red Ice TV - White Australia Disbands After New ＂Hate Groups＂ Laws with Thomas Sewell

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00:07:06.240 perhaps. But it's not being connected to our politics. It's just circumstantial to just

00:07:11.400 incidences that transpire in day-to-day life. And as you accurately articulated, one of the quotes

00:07:19.200 that he's famous for saying is that we are awful, but lawful. And he said it in a way that he didn't

00:07:24.360 really believe that we were awful. He said it in a way that he was just appeasing the witch hunt

00:07:30.520 against us. And what we've seen is, well, actually, I'll pause there and I'll let you

00:07:37.020 continue because I have a lot to say. Well, I can imagine, right? How's your morale before we get

00:07:43.420 into the kind of nitty gritty of some of this and moving forward, what's happening now and all that

00:07:48.140 stuff, obviously, and your choices to do what you did, which is understandable. We saw similar things

00:07:53.380 with national action in the UK. Oh, gosh, when is that? 2015? 2019, I think. Oh, was it 2019? Okay,

00:08:00.280 that late, yeah. How's morale? Maybe as late as 2018, but yeah. Around that period, yeah. Around that

00:08:07.040 period. My morale and the morale of the men is at an all-time high, which is bizarre. But they

00:08:15.820 definitely hit us with this, not actually out of the blue, but it's kind of like the girl who

00:08:21.180 that cried wolf. It's like they, or is it the boy that cried wolf? But anyway, they have been,

00:08:28.400 sorry, I'm getting a feedback. Is that, is that going to be on my end? Yeah, go on, Tom, I'll fix it.

00:08:34.280 Yeah, sorry. They have been saying this for five years that they're going to ban us or they've been

00:08:39.840 trying to. And so, you know, I think the last time I was asked about it, I said, you know, look,

00:08:44.460 they try this every year and every year their case gets weaker. And every year the recommendations

00:08:48.880 from the federal police and from ASIO just get more and more in our favor. Like they just keep

00:08:56.800 saying like, look, these guys aren't really a problem. They're trying to legitimize as a political

00:09:00.500 organization. And like, we're tracking them, we're monitoring them. They're not doing anything wrong.

00:09:05.160 But what there's been in this country in the last 12 months is definitely like a rhetoric change.

00:09:11.520 And the rhetoric that I've seen that I, that I'd never really seen much of. And in very recently,

00:09:17.400 I've seen a lot of is they are now talking about the biggest threat to national security is social

00:09:23.680 cohesion. And they never used to talk like that. They never used to speak like that. And I don't

00:09:28.420 know if that's happening in Canada or the U S or Britain, but it's certainly happening here in

00:09:33.660 Australia. Maybe they're using slightly different words in the rest of the Anglosphere,

00:09:37.860 but they've been saying for about 12 months now that the biggest threat to national security

00:09:43.080 is social cohesion. And they just keep echoing this talking point about social cohesion.

00:09:49.320 Sorry, I'm just muting all my stuff.

00:09:50.760 What do they, what do they, what do they mean? Cause like, yeah, I agree.

00:09:54.860 So yeah, we, we agree as well that the biggest threat to national security is social cohesion.

00:09:59.740 They're bringing in all these non-integratable foreign aliens that are destroying our country.

00:10:03.560 And, uh, you know, we want a socially cohesive society by having it racially and, and culturally

00:10:10.280 and socially homogenous. And, uh, they're threatening, you know, the federal government

00:10:15.780 is a threat to the social cohesion of our society, not us. We're just the ones pointing out that this

00:10:21.100 is not working. This is never going to work. And that it's ultimately a threat to our national

00:10:24.860 survival. Um, now not to get too conspirator, uh, because I think I did some streams recently

00:10:34.860 where people were saying, is this a fed up? Is this Mossad when that Bondi shooting happened?

00:10:39.160 I think we talked about it and you asked me a lot of questions. And, uh, I said, no, these,

00:10:44.440 these were, this is legit. Like these are obviously real terrorists. Uh, but what we never explored

00:10:50.000 was not the question of whether the feds set it up or whether Mossad set it up. We never really

00:10:55.200 questioned about why the feds let this one slip through the keeper to the keeper. And, uh, you

00:11:02.860 know, more evidence has come out now, not show suggesting that these people are Mossad or

00:11:07.940 suggesting that there's some sort of conspiracy by these guys that they were paid to do it or,

00:11:13.000 or anything like that, but simply that this wasn't negligence. The evidence that's come out in

00:11:17.840 the last couple of weeks is that not only were ASIO monitoring these people and that they were

00:11:23.440 on a watch list from 2019, but they know for a fact that they traveled to the Philippines to go

00:11:28.880 train with ISIS and they were allowed back in the country and they were allowed to maintain their

00:11:33.300 firearms licenses. So this has gone beyond negligence. Um, I'm not going as far as saying this is a Mossad

00:11:40.160 op. Um, this is an ASIO op that, uh, ASIO and the Australian federal police have allowed this to

00:11:45.680 occur. And we've seen a complete, uh, drastic shift in the rhetoric from ASIO from lawful, but awful to

00:11:55.600 know these guys, because they affect social cohesion are therefore a problem and they need to be shut

00:11:59.800 down. And so, uh, we weren't a threat to social cohesion prior. We were just, you know, democratically

00:12:05.820 expressing our beliefs, but now we're a national security risk. Um, and need, you know, legislation

00:12:11.200 needs to be put forward to stop us from existing. And, uh, I believe that the timing of this Bondi

00:12:17.440 attack is simply that, uh, they have been monitoring us for four or five years, hoping that the amount

00:12:24.400 of stress and pressure they put us under would lead eventually to an individual connected to our

00:12:31.200 organization to committing a terror attack. I think they had a hunch or, you know, they had a, you know,

00:12:38.240 they had a feeling that if they just piled enough pressure on enough young white men, shutting down

00:12:44.520 their bank accounts, harassing them, torturing them, imprisoning them, slandering them, smearing them,

00:12:50.500 you know, just the whole lot, um, not giving them a, uh, an outlet, not allowing them, you know,

00:12:57.040 banning our Twitter accounts and all this, you know, censoring us. Eventually they could mount enough

00:13:02.720 pressure that someone would snap and go and do something silly one day and kill a bunch of people.

00:13:07.480 And I think they were just really hoping that that would happen. Uh, and I'm talking about the

00:13:12.300 government here. I'm talking about ASIO. I'm talking about the federal police. I think they

00:13:15.320 were just hoping, and I mean, they were grooming 14 year olds, 13 year olds to try to commit terror

00:13:19.760 attacks. And they've been caught doing this. Um, there's been, uh, inquiries into this and that

00:13:24.200 the federal police have been caught grooming like low IQ, low functioning autist retards into trying

00:13:30.600 to commit terror attacks. And, uh, there's not much news coverage on it. I'll tell you that,

00:13:34.980 but it is a fact. And, uh, despite all of this for four or five years, we've existed as a political

00:13:42.900 organization and we haven't had any of these major dramas. Um, you know, other than a few,

00:13:47.600 a phrase and assaults and stuff like that, which is all part and parcel of people spitting on you

00:13:52.020 and attacking you. Um, you know, we've had very little, uh, issue with the law other than getting,

00:13:58.800 you know, we've been charged like a hundred times for offensive behavior, but you know,

00:14:02.240 that's a, that's a side quest. Um, so what's the crux of it? What's the point that I'm getting at?

00:14:07.480 I'll, I'll speed it up because I'm sure everyone's probably wondering where I'm going.

00:14:12.300 What we have is two individuals, two Muslims, uh, of Indian heritage that have traveled over to the

00:14:20.240 Philippines and not to a holiday part of the Philippines. They've specifically traveled to,

00:14:23.980 uh, the Southern islands of the Philippines, where there are ISIS training camps. They've not just

00:14:29.620 specifically traveled to those islands, but they have specifically engaged in terror training,

00:14:34.580 uh, on these islands. ASIO and the federal police would know this as a fact. Their intelligence would

00:14:40.080 know for a fact that they've gone and done this. They've been allowed to come back into the country.

00:14:44.620 They have not been stripped of their citizenship. Um, they have not been stripped of their, uh,

00:14:49.700 residence residency. They haven't been deported. Uh, they've been allowed to come back in the

00:14:54.500 country. They've been allowed to have a firearms license. They've got on their mobile phones footage

00:15:00.920 of them shooting, you know, semi-automatic shotguns and doing basically terror drills with their

00:15:07.340 shotguns, you know, like not, not terror drills, but you know, combat drills, like minor infantry tactics

00:15:12.520 with their semi-automatic shotguns. Uh, they would have, ASIO would have access to this. They've got

00:15:18.700 back doors to, you know, see videos that are on your phone for sure to your data. Um, especially

00:15:24.260 if you're uploading it and, you know, especially if you, you know, these guys weren't tech savvy.

00:15:28.500 Um, they have not through incompetence, but, or negligence, but they have for certain allowed

00:15:36.280 this terrorist attack to happen. Uh, now that it has happened, uh, they've been able to put broad,

00:15:43.300 wide and vague sweeping legislation through to parliament. It hasn't passed yet,

00:15:47.860 but they've been able to expand the legislation of shutting down political groups to such a broad

00:15:56.340 and vague and draconian level, uh, fueled by, uh, a alleged necessity to crack down on hatred,

00:16:07.560 antisemitism, and extremism, which I think is the name of the bill. I think it's combating,

00:16:11.920 it's called combating antisemitism, hatred, and extremism. And nothing in the bill talks about

00:16:17.740 Islam. Nothing in the bill talks about, you know, these mosques that have radicalized these guys.

00:16:22.700 Nothing in the bill talks about ISIS. Nothing in the bill talks about, um, you know, the issue that's

00:16:30.540 growing in Southwest Sydney with, you know, half a million Muslims, uh, that have formed,

00:16:35.500 you know, uh, a block of people, which is Tony Burke's electorate, um, I might add, uh, where the

00:16:43.000 home affairs minister is that's, that's planning to designate us as a hate group. Um, there's nothing

00:16:47.260 in there about the actual cause of this terror attack. Um, but what there is, is a lot of talk

00:16:53.880 in the bill about how they can, without due process, um, either through the home affairs minister

00:17:00.980 or through the director general, uh, sorry, the governor general, they can designate a group that

00:17:06.440 has, uh, performed anything retroactively. So anything before this bill has been put in place,

00:17:13.340 if they've committed an action or, uh, you know, like a Roman salute, if they have, you know, expressed

00:17:20.940 racial superiority prior to this bill coming in, if they've done one of these things, uh, regardless of

00:17:30.160 whether anyone is a complainant, regardless of anyone is in fear for their life, regardless, like

00:17:35.500 it doesn't have to be, it's completely subjective. It doesn't have to be proven that they've actually

00:17:39.560 negatively affected an individual. I mean, and even if it did have to be proven, that would be

00:17:44.660 pretty easy to find someone that doesn't like us. That's like, yeah, I'm in fear for my life because

00:17:48.780 Thomas Sewell exists and, and you know, the NSN exists, that would be really easy to do, but they

00:17:53.980 don't even need to go that far. And then they can designate a group based on prior behavior and

00:18:01.840 rhetoric. Uh, so yeah, that's where we're at. Uh, they've used the, the political momentum behind a,

00:18:12.840 a Muslim, an Islamic terror attack on Australian soil against predominantly Jews, but also a couple

00:18:18.220 white Australians were killed as well in the attack, um, and wounded. And they've used this and jujitsu'd

00:18:24.980 it into, uh, banning their political opposition. Yeah. And that's what we're discussing basically

00:18:32.460 and talking about that. And, and of course, yeah, I'm, I'm more conspiratorial leaning perhaps than

00:18:37.360 you, but like I saw this and it's like, nah, this, if nothing else, as you said, it's, it's a conspiracy

00:18:45.060 by dropping the guard and, and, and if nothing else, then letting it happen because it's politically

00:18:50.240 expedient. You know what I'm saying? A hundred percent. I can't, what's the relationship there?

00:18:55.660 Cause we know about the five eyes, right? All kind of the Anglosphere sharing information and stuff

00:18:59.340 like that. Some people have jokingly call it the five, the five eyes and the nose, uh, because there's

00:19:04.920 a lot of cooperation here, obviously. What do you know of this in terms of the cooperation between

00:19:09.180 ASIO and, and the Mossad, for example? Yeah, there is, there is a lot and they, uh, they have

00:19:17.960 predominantly taken instruction from the, you know, all the different international Zionist

00:19:25.720 organizations like world Jewish Congress and, you know, executive council of Australian Jewry and

00:19:31.840 all the Jewish lobby groups after this attack, all formed in partnership and not just in Australia,

00:19:38.640 but globally created a partnership with the Australian government to draft this bill. So this

00:19:46.040 bill is explicitly being drafted by Jewish lawyers, Zionist lawyers, uh, for the purpose of shutting

00:19:53.980 down antisemitism, uh, criticism of Jewish power in Australia. And they've even put exemptions in it for

00:20:01.300 religious speech. Um, meaning if you're a Muslim and you want to preach killing Jews, but you're quoting

00:20:08.200 the Quran while you're doing it, you're right, you actually don't, uh, fill fit the bill. You, you don't

00:20:14.000 go to jail for that. So Muslims can preach killing Jews in their mosques and that's fine. They're still,

00:20:21.260 it's a religion of peace. Um, and, uh, yeah, basically it's just shut down whitey. This is the shut down

00:20:29.100 white Australia bill. Um, we are probably three or four weeks away from registering as a political party.

00:20:35.260 Um, you know, we're, we've got the numbers now we're doing the paperwork. We've started the process.

00:20:41.440 Uh, we're waiting to hear back from, uh, you know, the 17, 1800 people that have, uh, signed up for the

00:20:49.620 party. Uh, the, this bill was, uh, produced or proposed to parliament, I think on Monday. And, uh, our timeline

00:21:00.260 was to send our email out for party confirmation, um, for people to just like sign an online form on

00:21:07.600 Thursday. So that was yesterday. So we didn't send that email. We can still send it. Um, but I have

00:21:14.480 a hunch that, um, there's going to be a couple hundred people in Australia that are not super

00:21:20.920 interested in going to jail for seven years, uh, for signing a piece of paper saying they're a member

00:21:26.460 of, of, of a retroactive hate group. Right. Um, and so it's very clever political maneuvering from

00:21:32.360 the labor party to just at the absolute last minute, they rushed this through to stop us from

00:21:38.620 registering our party. So did you follow any of the discussions in parliament that they had about this

00:21:46.580 bill? Well, I'll take it back one step from that. We read the initial, I think it was 88 pages,

00:21:56.880 ironically, um, that was put forward. We read through that and we immediately held a meeting to

00:22:04.680 disband the organization. So if you haven't read through this bill, you don't realize how bad it is.

00:22:10.800 Um, this is the most draconian, uh, bill ever put forward in a Western government ever. Uh, this is

00:22:19.800 literally, we don't like what you have to say. Uh, we're going to like, you go to jail. Basically,

00:22:26.800 this is like a, you go to jail. Uh, there's no due process here. It's just, we designate you

00:22:33.940 straight to jail bill. Yeah. It's just, we don't like you. Then we designate you. Then you

00:22:40.780 exist, then jail. And there's no circumvention of that. There's no exemption. You're a political

00:22:48.460 party. Like it's just, this is just democracy equals, uh, dead bill. Um, now I can go into

00:22:56.120 what's, uh, happened since we decided to disband. Um, but the decision was made that it was impossible

00:23:03.640 for us to continue a political organization of this nature, um, with this bill, uh, in,

00:23:11.400 in existence. Um, even if it gets modified like crazy, it doesn't matter. The bones of the bill

00:23:17.300 is we don't like you. Therefore we prescribe you. Therefore, if you exist after we prescribe you,

00:23:23.600 you instantly go to jail. And, uh, you know, it's even worse than that because it's not just,

00:23:31.400 you go to jail. But if you, uh, like as a leader, it's like, if you're just a member,

00:23:37.480 you go to jail. Right. Um, if you, another one that's even worse is if you try to, uh,

00:23:46.020 teach people how, like, let's say you're not even in a hate group, but let's say you're a content

00:23:51.720 creator and you try to teach people how to build a group that then could be defined as a hate group.

00:24:00.960 Um, like, let's say there was like an Australian James Mason, hypothetically,

00:24:04.820 and let's say there was like a, you know, older guy experienced, he's done a lot of whole bunch

00:24:09.840 of movementarianism and, um, you know, maybe he said some radical things over the years and let's

00:24:14.680 say he, uh, you know, wrote a manual, you know, and said, this is how you build a group that can

00:24:21.320 agitate against the government and be a political dissident. You can go to jail for 10 years for just

00:24:25.700 doing that. Nice. Just taking care of some feedback on the mic. Sorry about that guys.

00:24:31.380 Um, so is there anything, is there anything in the bill that explicitly mentions the group or you or

00:24:40.720 anyone by name or like at least a clear kind of like, yeah, I mean, maybe there's so much there's

00:24:46.460 like, you know, no, no, not in the bill that not in the original bill that I read the draft. Uh, I,

00:24:54.040 I haven't read the 144 page one. Um, so I don't know what's been added to it. And I haven't read

00:24:59.100 the exposure thing. I haven't read the, cause it's like 500 pages to this thing. So I'm, I'm assuming

00:25:04.040 outside of that, there is explicit stuff to us, but it doesn't matter because when they announced

00:25:08.840 that they were doing the bill, the prime minister and the home affairs minister, that rodent,

00:25:13.060 Tony Burke, who, um, deported a whole bunch of honorable white men over the last couple of

00:25:17.740 weeks, um, whilst not deporting a whole bunch of nigger rapists, uh, the boat, both of them

00:25:24.000 got on television when they announced the bill saying that the reason for this bill is to shut

00:25:28.840 down the NSN. And, uh, I don't know how to pronounce it, but husband to hear or something

00:25:34.140 like that. Some Arab group that's, uh, organizing all the pro Palestine action.

00:25:38.300 Ah, okay. Um, in, that was key. So yeah, so they, they, they're trying to shut down the,

00:25:44.920 uh, well, they're alleging that they're trying to shut down the extremist Muslims, but in the,

00:25:49.220 in the bolts of the, in the meat and, and, uh, bones of the bill, it says there's an exemption

00:25:54.660 for like established religious, uh, organizations. So like has, but to heal, however you pronounce

00:26:01.300 it can just simply say that we're a Muslim, we're, we're a Muslim group. Like we're, cause they

00:26:06.920 are, they already say they're a Muslim group, so it won't affect them. Um, whereas we don't

00:26:11.980 have, there's no exemption for, um, political groups.

00:26:16.480 Yeah. Here's, let me play this clip. Uh, Drew Pavlou, our friend, Drew Pavlou of all people,

00:26:22.240 it's almost like some of his posts, it's almost like, is he kind of warming up to something?

00:26:26.240 Anyway, here, here, this clip up here regarding it just a, it's a two minute discussion, obviously.

00:26:31.600 And we, we know, we know where this goes, but it could be interesting for the audience

00:26:34.760 to hear just, uh, about this. Like this is, we don't care about the Islamophobia, really.

00:26:41.340 There's no, there's not an issue with this. This, this is about going after whites. And

00:26:45.420 I think when they mention, when they say, when they talk about Christians here too, I don't

00:26:49.260 think it is on a religious thing. It's because Christians are predominantly, obviously associated

00:26:53.340 with whites here in this case. So that's why they're talking about it in this way. Let me play

00:26:57.200 a little bit here. Where you've spoken about expressions of race, color and national or ethnic

00:27:03.640 origin. Um, and it says on the fourth line there, for example, those of Jewish origin would be

00:27:13.120 protected by the offense. Um, given that Jewish people, uh, I could convert to, to Judaism. Uh,

00:27:23.520 how then do you suggest that you'll be protecting, uh, Jewish people of different ethnic origins

00:27:32.400 under this legislation? Um, so for this offense, uh, that reference draws on the, uh, racial discrimination

00:27:42.160 act. Um, and, uh, uh, it is, uh, in that context, these terms have been in found to encompass Jewish people,

00:27:51.680 also Sikhs as ethno-religious groups. Okay. So you would be satisfied that using that basis,

00:28:04.480 that, uh, people chanting, uh, gas the Jews or death to Jews, that that would encompass

00:28:12.400 that group of people, despite them, you know, it might be a, uh, Ukrainian, uh, Jewish person,

00:28:20.240 or a person from, um, um, from Israel? Uh, yes. So we're satisfied that that reference to persons

00:28:29.520 or groups distinguished by race, color, national or national ethnic origin encompasses Jewish people.

00:28:36.320 Okay. What about other religious groups? Would it protect, uh, well, I'm Catholic. Would it protect

00:28:43.920 Catholic people? Um, I mentioned, uh, that, uh, I think there has been consideration that it will apply

00:28:51.920 to, um, Sikhs as also a ethno-religious group, um, and in other contexts, um, uh, would depend on the

00:29:01.680 broader range of characteristics, um, but, um, uh, being Catholic alone would not constitute race,

00:29:10.080 color, national or ethnic origin, but it might be that in certain circumstances, if there are broader

00:29:16.400 other considerations, um, that... If they're brown Catholic, then they're protected.

00:29:20.800 ...that those individuals formed, uh, part of one of those groups, that would be covered.

00:29:27.040 What about, uh, Christians more broadly then? Would that be considered, would that be considered covered

00:29:34.480 by this legislation? Would that group be considered protected by this legislation?

00:29:40.720 As, as just an entire group of Christians, uh, uh, that wouldn't be, but there could be,

00:29:46.880 um, particular Christian groups that might pick up those characteristics.

00:29:52.640 There you go. So we know that it's, this is all, uh, uh, bullshit, uh, as they say, and, uh,

00:29:59.040 uh, and also... It's the anti-white bill. It's literally just the anti-white bill. It's the

00:30:03.680 anti-white Australia bill. And we were trying to make a white Australia party. Yeah. And yeah,

00:30:09.360 you can only pick up, you can be Christian and you can be protected by this bill, but it's because

00:30:13.520 you're Tongan, you're part of the Tongan Christian community or the Korean Christian community or the

00:30:18.560 Chinese Christian community. You can be protected by this bill. You just have to not be white.

00:30:23.920 That's right. So, okay. The party here, the way I explained it, the way I explained it,

00:30:31.760 because, um, there's been a wave of emotions. Uh, you know, obviously, you know, when something

00:30:37.920 like this happens where, you know, you put five years, six years of your life into a single project

00:30:43.600 and you build it from the ground up, like not just the NSN, but also the, the European Australian

00:30:48.080 movement, like the active club side of things. And, you know, and then going into the next step,

00:30:52.160 building the political party, building white Australia, uh, you put your heart and soul

00:30:56.880 into something for that long. And, you know, we've just built up, there's about 350 guys now

00:31:02.640 in the org, uh, the org proper, you know, obviously thousands of supporters and people that come to our

00:31:07.200 events. Um, and you watch that form over, you know, your entire adult life, you know, it's a range of

00:31:17.680 emotions and, uh, you know, everyone's kind of gone through a whole bunch of mood swings as you'd

00:31:24.640 expect. And, uh, I've kind of come out of that the other end and just realized that, you know,

00:31:30.800 if you can keep your head when all about you, people are losing theirs and blaming it on you.

00:31:34.640 And I just thought about it from this real basic perspective that we were playing a game with the

00:31:41.600 state. We always said this would happen. Um, this isn't, uh, I told you so moment from our critics,

00:31:49.280 because we always said that we weren't living in a democracy. We always said that one of our

00:31:54.480 goals was to hide in the contradictions and to expose the system for being a multicultural

00:32:00.400 police state. We we've always said that it's a tyranny and anti-white tyranny. We've said that since

00:32:05.360 2020 and, and even slightly before. And so our mission has actually been accomplished in a lot

00:32:13.280 of ways. It's a bit of a fire victory or period victory, however that's pronounced, but it's a,

00:32:18.320 I only know that word from total war, but, uh, it's, it's a, uh, you know, it's a victory at great cost,

00:32:26.800 but it's a massive victory in the sense that this is like,

00:32:31.120 this is the closing act, uh, of the chapter. It's not the closing act of, you know, the whole

00:32:39.200 opera, but we're going into an intermission and the curtains are coming to a close and we're bowing

00:32:45.760 out and with a smile on her face. Uh, we did it, uh, time to go back to the drawing board, but,

00:32:55.200 you know, I just look at this as the government, you know, cracking the shits because they've got

00:32:59.040 nothing left. They can't win. And they've realized that we've won the game and we're playing a little

00:33:04.560 game with the government, with the, these faggot communists. And we've shown them that they can't

00:33:10.480 win. And we've shown them that every year we're doubling, that we've got this model, that we're

00:33:14.880 only getting stronger, that all of their attempts to stop us have failed and have backfired and only

00:33:21.200 embolden us. And we're just operating on another level. Now. Um, the organization is just so much more,

00:33:28.400 you know, it's just so much bigger, more professional, better quality people,

00:33:32.800 the skills, the money, like everything's coming in. Um, we're fighting on all fronts.

00:33:39.680 And I just think of it as you're playing, imagine you're like a kid and you're playing Xbox with your

00:33:44.720 older brother or something and you're winning the game and he's getting more and more angry and you

00:33:50.080 keep winning. And he just, he starts kicking you out. You know, you're on the couch together. He starts

00:33:54.560 stomping on your heels, stomping on your feet and you're still winning. And then one day he just,

00:34:00.000 you know, gets up and he just piffs the controller at the TV and smashes the TV. And he comes and fly

00:34:06.000 kicks the Xbox. And it's like, all right. Okay. Game over. Like, well done. You know,

00:34:14.880 like if I can't have it or like, exactly. Yeah. If we can't have it the way we want it,

00:34:19.920 no one can. So it's this, let's just fucking burn it all to the ground. Then again, for the sake of

00:34:25.200 democracy, let's remember now. So, you know, and that's, that's what the labor party's done.

00:34:30.720 And the rest of the apparatus is kind of coming into the picture and is going, whoa, hang on a

00:34:37.680 minute. What, what are you doing? You can't just smash the TV like this. And so they've done so much

00:34:45.760 damage to themselves, their own credibility and their own so-called social cohesion. We,

00:34:52.480 we, uh, have not lost anything from this other than the fact that our little art project is now

00:35:01.360 disbanded or well, as of Sunday, it's going to be disbanded. Um, it's not the be all and end all of

00:35:08.720 my existence as an individual. Um, you know, it's like we were mocked by the media day one

00:35:18.560 that we said we were going to disband. The media came out and mocked us. The liberal party came out

00:35:23.040 and mocked us. Um, and we're the first people to read through this legislation and go, okay,

00:35:30.000 this is really bad. Let's play the game. Well, the game's over basically. All right. We'll find a new

00:35:35.520 hobby. Um, we're not going to play Xbox anymore. We're going to go outside and play soccer. And,

00:35:40.640 uh, everyone else mocked us for that. Like, haha, you don't want to keep playing on the broken Xbox.

00:35:45.680 It's like, well, the Xbox broken. We're not playing anymore. It's, it's over. Um,

00:35:51.040 bye-bye democracy in that sense. And, uh, then day two happened and the media and the liberal party

00:35:58.560 stopped mocking us. And all of the other political parties all started jumping down the throat of the

00:36:05.440 party that proposed this saying, well, hang on a minute, this doesn't suit our agenda.

00:36:10.960 And so it went from being rushed through parliament to, you know, all the other parties saying,

00:36:16.160 hang on a minute, this is 144 pages of legislation and you want us to make a decision on this within

00:36:21.920 four days. And, you know, it doesn't, what is it, you know, what does it say about Christians? What

00:36:27.600 does it say about gays? What does it say about this? What does it say about that? And so, you know,

00:36:31.680 the green party, which is the, you know, the far left party, they're complaining that this bill doesn't

00:36:36.560 do enough to protect homosexuals. And then the liberal party is complaining that this impeaches on,

00:36:43.760 you know, gun owners and Christians and, you know, potentially free speech. And all the minor

00:36:50.000 parties have come out and said, we're not voting for this. And, uh, you know, I still think this

00:36:55.920 bill is going to pass. I just think it's going to be even worse by the time, you know, the Frankenstein

00:37:02.240 system has, um, you know, probably had a couple of weeks to go over it and add all the freakish

00:37:08.000 stuff they want to add to it. And one thing that certainly will not happen is they will not take out

00:37:14.880 all the anti-white stuff out of it. Um, they will just, it'll be strengthened, not weakened. So

00:37:21.920 it's bought us a couple of weeks potentially, because this is unlikely to be passed on Tuesday

00:37:26.640 in parliament. Um, but it will be passed. It'll just be passed potentially in an even worse form.

00:37:32.640 Yeah. So, yeah. So the point here, as you mentioned is to kind of force, force their hand, as you said,

00:37:38.640 right? If you do anything, they will eventually seek to crack down on you. And in one way,

00:37:43.520 the sooner, the better. What I'm saying is, even if you optically, let's say then didn't do the,

00:37:49.360 what you guys were doing, you would do it in a very different way.

00:37:51.840 But it's too late. Yeah. The way this bill is worded is we can't just tone down what we're doing.

00:37:57.840 No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying like, like, like from, if you did that

00:38:00.800 from the beginning, I meant like to you, what my point is, they would still find a way of going

00:38:05.760 after you. It doesn't matter. That's my point. Right. Yeah. Look, there is certainly a way that

00:38:11.600 we could have done things differently and we wouldn't have stirred the hornets nest, but our goal was to

00:38:18.000 stir the hornets nest and we've succeeded. Right. Yeah. Because that is, that is a metapolitical win,

00:38:23.360 if you will, of, of forcing the system to crack down harder that, that, that, because ultimately,

00:38:29.280 what else can you, what else can you do? You, you have the realization of the, the, the state

00:38:35.200 that you live in, that many of us in the West now live in, that we know the leadership, we know the,

00:38:39.520 the shit libs and the anti-whites, we know what they feel and do. And eventually they will come for

00:38:43.360 you. And, and the sooner that the bandaid, if you will, is ripped off and this is revealed to more

00:38:48.400 and more people, the better it's going to be. Some people say, ah, that's counterproductive.

00:38:52.320 Let's buy us time or whatever, but you know what? It, it, it just kind of is what it is at this

00:38:56.800 point. And you just have to force their hand. Our, our political, uh, thesis, our political

00:39:03.520 theory, our political strategy from day one has been very, very clear. We are in a race against time.

00:39:13.520 Demographics are destiny. We are becoming a minority. We are being racially replaced in our own countries.

00:39:21.920 And we have to create significant political change before we are, we become an irrelevant,

00:39:30.880 you know, microcosm of our formination. We are in a race against the clock so that we don't end up like

00:39:39.360 South Africa or Rhodesia. And Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the United States, and, and Europe

00:39:45.920 are all, and even some parts of South America are fighting this demographic war where Europeans are

00:39:52.560 being ethnically cleansed, uh, through this evil genocidal machine of globalism and Zog and everything

00:40:00.720 else. And cultural Marxism, blah, blah, blah. And so our political thesis, and you can actually find

00:40:08.960 the original articles on maybe some archived website of NSN. Um, there's an original article,

00:40:16.640 uh, by Jacob about metapolitics. There's an original article that's archived about, uh, implementing

00:40:23.360 national socialist, uh, sort of agitation strategy in the 21st century. I mean, we had some, we have

00:40:31.120 some great minds. Uh, I've been an effective leader at bringing these people together and forming a

00:40:39.120 political thesis and everything that we have said has played out. Everything that we suggested would

00:40:47.600 help bring about conditions for change has happened. And again, the summary of our political thesis is

00:40:58.240 that we are racing against the clock. We need to try to slow down the demographic replacement and speed

00:41:08.800 up the social and political decay. So we're not total acceleration. It's like, it's not like,

00:41:19.360 oh, bring a million blacks into Melbourne tomorrow, please. So that accelerate. No, no, it's not that way.

00:41:26.960 It's let's bring about all the changes, except that let's, let's try to maintain ourselves as the

00:41:34.320 largest percentage of the population possible whilst bringing about the strongest enemy police state and

00:41:43.360 mask off moment for the regime. Let's get the regime to come early. Let's get the regime to take the mask

00:41:50.960 off too early before they've actually genocided us. Let let's try to force the regime into showing how

00:41:58.800 disgusting and freaky and tyrannical it is and how draconian it is while we're still 60, 70% of the

00:42:06.080 population, because then we have the ability to mobilize as many white people as possible against this

00:42:12.640 alien treasonous regime. And that is exactly, and this anti-Semitism bill, this bill, this legislation

00:42:22.160 against disliking Jews is our, you know, magnus opus. And, you know, most people might not understand that and

00:42:32.880 might see it as like, oh, so you're a fed, you're a part of the PSYOP, you're, you know, you'll let this happen.

00:42:38.320 It's like, we have, our actions have forced an overreaction by a government that hates its own population.

00:42:47.840 And we want to show the Australian people, the government hates you. These people want to harm

00:42:54.800 you. These people want to put you in prison. And now that we've succeeded, we can't actually do

00:43:00.880 any more. Like now they've finally put the final nail in our coffin. And like a magician, we're not

00:43:07.920 in the coffin. Bye-bye. I'll go pick blueberries for 12 months and regroup and figure out what I'm

00:43:13.840 going to do with my life. Yeah, obviously I want to ask you more about that. The curtain's done.

00:43:19.600 Like this bill gets passed, the curtain's closed. You know what I mean? That's the act. Well,

00:43:23.840 yeah, for the organization. Is there, I mean, because obviously, okay, so let's go into this

00:43:29.440 a little bit. There's a number of things now you could do in terms of like not have a membership

00:43:36.000 organization, right? Running it decentralized, doing other things. You can effectively, you know,

00:43:41.600 do things that are far more, I'm not saying spectacle. That's the wrong word. But like,

00:43:49.280 I hate to use the word that you, but like almost troll the government, you know, in a way,

00:43:53.360 now you need like 15 more of these types of like groups that are decentralized. There's nothing on

00:43:57.520 the books, nothing on the paper, whatever, but show how impossible it is to go after you guys.

00:44:03.200 Do you think that it's, let's say this, Dan, you go into the political thing. Let me ask you this

00:44:08.320 first. You're going to the political party now, but outside of white Australia. Let's assume that

00:44:15.440 you have a team of lawyers who can look through the bill. What can I actually say and not say,

00:44:19.280 or something like that. Go right up against the line, but don't cross it. What would happen then,

00:44:24.000 do you think? That would you say, Thomas, you can't do this, right?

00:44:26.800 Right. There, a new line in the sand is being drawn and their goal was to pass this legislation

00:44:35.680 to be able to get us all in jail. That's, that's the purpose of it. They're, they're passing this

00:44:40.400 legislation and I, the mask slipped even more. They even said, I think it was Tony Burke. He said

00:44:49.200 about one of his motivations for passing this legislation, for putting forward this legislation,

00:44:53.840 was so that those responsible for, you know, attacking social cohesion can be brought to

00:45:01.120 justice, that we can't escape justice. So we abide by the law. They changed the law. We abide by the

00:45:10.160 law. They changed the law. We abide by the new law. They changed the law. We abide by that law. Then now

00:45:15.840 they've just gone mask off and they've changed the law so drastically now that they're like, now finally,

00:45:22.000 we're going to be able to bring these people to justice, um, for, for what they've done.

00:45:27.760 And, uh, we just said, nah, we're not gonna, we, you've made it impossible for us to play the game

00:45:33.520 now. Um, and it is a trap. And if we continue operating in any way, uh, or even attempt to rebrand,

00:45:41.280 um, uh, as, as, as an organ, as a political organization within this framework, even just changing

00:45:47.680 our name and changing our tact a little bit. It is jail. You're going to jail for 10 years.

00:45:53.440 Yeah. It's just, it's just, they've put, they've put like a fire break into this bill that if you

00:45:58.400 try to circumvent the bill and they're gloating about Tony Burke was in, in the press conference

00:46:02.960 at the same press conference that you're putting on, on the screen now at the same press conference,

00:46:06.800 he's saying like, we've put things in this bill that they can't circumvent this. If they try to

00:46:12.000 circumvent this, we're going to put them in jail. So it's like, it's not just the anti white Australia

00:46:16.640 bill. It's the, if the people that have organized white Australia try to rebrand their project as

00:46:23.120 something else, then we're going to get them. Right. Okay. So that's, so that's, but even like,

00:46:28.720 if there's no organization on the books, but you still, what I'm saying is next up is freedom of

00:46:34.640 assembly then, right? Even for a decentralized group, just a bunch of guys hanging out. There's no

00:46:39.760 organization. There's no paperwork. There's nothing filed with the government.

00:46:43.040 That's, that's where you have to be very, very careful because national action tried to do this

00:46:47.920 in the UK where they said, okay, our group is prescribed. We can't be national action anymore.

00:46:52.560 And about five different strategies came up and I'm not as well versed in the exact history of it

00:46:59.680 as say Jacob of Sanders, but he's explained a lot of it to me. And some of it was explained to me by Ben

00:47:04.240 Raymond before he was locked up. And some guys went, well, we're going to rebrand as Scottish Dawn.

00:47:09.600 And that did not work. And that was a really dumb idea. And some of them went to jail and some of

00:47:15.280 them went, we're not going to rebrand as any specific group, but we're still going to meet

00:47:18.800 up at the pub and go to the pub together and talk shit. And, uh, some of those guys are in jail.

00:47:24.640 That was really dumb. Um, and, uh, they're in jail because they were fed posting and someone was

00:47:29.680 wearing a wire. Um, and there was just a lot of dirty tricks going on at the time. They were just

00:47:34.640 trying to make an example of these guys, another group or another part of them kept just going to

00:47:39.440 the gym together and doing MMA and they're doing fighting drills and some of them are in jail.

00:47:44.160 And then there were other guys that did other things and some of them are in jail. So the, uh,

00:47:51.440 uh, the lesson here is, uh, you know, you can have friends, no one's stopping you from having friends,

00:47:58.880 but what I've said is that I highly recommend, and this is not legal advice. This is just life advice.

00:48:07.520 I highly recommend that you don't associate with more than one, uh, former member at a time.

00:48:14.480 Uh, if you want to meet up with 10 of your mates and, uh, you know, go to the pub together and you

00:48:20.240 just so all happen to be former NSN members and, you know, and the police raid your house and you've

00:48:28.320 still got flags and memorabilia and your wristband and your patches and your stickers. Well, they're going

00:48:35.280 to make a case in court, aren't they? That these are all NSN members. NSN never disbanded. They

00:48:39.920 just said that they did. They're all still meeting up. They've all still got their, their uniforms at

00:48:45.440 home. Um, so it is a ban on freedom of association. That's what it is. It is a ban on freedom of

00:48:54.160 association to an extent. I would say that if the government cannot ban you from being friends

00:49:00.320 with someone, they can't ban you from, you know, meeting up and have a coffee. You,

00:49:05.120 you know, if you want to meet up and have a beer with your mate or a coffee with your mate,

00:49:08.480 um, nothing's stopping you from doing that. Nothing's stopping you from, you know,

00:49:12.880 two former members going to the gym together, but when it becomes three and four and five and six

00:49:18.960 and 10 and 12, and there's a group chat and it's daily meme posting. Nah, someone's going to jail.

00:49:27.200 Someone's going to jail. That's what they, that's what they want to happen. And so my recommendation to

00:49:31.920 everyone is, this is a chance for people to focus on their personal lives. This is a chance for people

00:49:36.160 to make new friends. This is a chance for people to come up with, you know, other, uh, you know,

00:49:42.640 cultural works and social works and endeavors and to study politics, um, to read more, to train more.

00:49:51.680 Um, you know, this is, this is an opportunity for everyone. And you know, over the next six to 12 months,

00:49:57.760 we can assess these laws. We can try to fight these laws. Well, there is no, we, uh, I'll correct myself

00:50:02.160 there over the next six to 12 months. I can fight these, these things and other spokespersons can fight

00:50:09.680 these things. Um, it doesn't ban spokespeople from, from, uh, you know, having opinions on the internet.

00:50:16.720 What it does ban them from doing is organizing groups of men, um, into what could be vaguely

00:50:23.040 classed as a hate group. And that could be as simple as a group displaying national pride

00:50:28.800 or that one nation is better than another nation. Uh, so white nationalism is effectively going to be

00:50:35.520 illegal in Australia when this bill passes, not just white nationalism, but even to an extent civic

00:50:41.840 nationalism. Uh, can you, and you'd have to name them, but do you know of other groups that might

00:50:46.800 just also then be impacted by this? Or like, let's say someone else who's not even affiliated with the

00:50:52.960 group, not as maybe something similar, but like vaguely nationalistic in that vein, will they be

00:50:59.360 threatened by this? Not to sound arrogant, but there's not really any group in Australia that's

00:51:04.720 been effective at exposing the government and creating a notoriety around being the political

00:51:10.080 opposition to the government. Um, there's, there's probably half a dozen groups that could

00:51:14.880 be potentially affected by this. Um, and they're definitely next in line to get their heads chopped

00:51:20.880 off. Um, if they don't take this legislation seriously, um, will the government target those

00:51:26.880 groups? I don't think so. I think they'll be left alone because they're relatively ineffective.

00:51:31.360 Um, they would argue that they're left alone because they can float under the radar because they

00:51:38.080 don't make racial slurs. Um, yeah, uh, yeah, it's two different cases. Um, that's their case. Uh,

00:51:48.880 and I have my case. Uh, you could have a group that doesn't do racial slurs and if it was effective,

00:51:56.160 um, it would, it would be hunted down the way that we're gonna be hunted down if we try to maintain

00:52:01.680 ourselves as an organization. So, yeah, I would be, I would be very, and I, I don't recommend any of

00:52:07.920 our members join any existing groups that are basically just next on the chopping block. So,

00:52:13.440 um, as I said, there's half a dozen groups in Australia that kind of exist in the space that

00:52:19.360 we have made by being, you know, the vanguard and by being so robustly charging at the front with the

00:52:26.400 flame. Um, they have filled that space behind us. They have absorbed a lot of our kind of

00:52:32.000 attrition. They've absorbed guys that aren't cut out to be activists. They've absorbed a lot of

00:52:37.120 white collar people that are not, uh, anti-fragile. Like they're really, really politically, um,

00:52:43.600 they're politically exposed persons. You know what I mean? Like they can't lose their job.

00:52:47.680 Um, you know, they've got a $1.4 million mortgage, so they don't want to join.

00:52:52.000 They don't want to join the fighters. They'll sit in the background. Um, all of those people,

00:52:57.840 yeah, I would, yeah, I would be, yeah, I don't know what I would do if I ran one of those orgs.

00:53:05.040 And I don't know what I would do if I was a member of one of those orgs, because it's very iffy.

00:53:09.360 They're on very, very unstable, iffy ground. And I think they're going to have a lot of attrition

00:53:15.440 if they don't disband. Um, they have to be very, very careful. Um, but in

00:53:21.840 saying that the goal of this legislation is not to shut down those periphery groups,

00:53:28.000 those satellite groups, the goal of this legislation is to shut us down, to shut the spearhead down,

00:53:34.320 um, to blunt and to blunt and the offensive of the, of the, you know, the opposition to,

00:53:41.040 to the anti white, you know, uh, government, the, you know, the white genocide. So, uh,

00:53:47.840 uh, yeah, it's, it's a tenuous situation for them. Well, yeah, obviously if you weren't there

00:53:56.000 doing this, how long do you think it would have taken to like, did something like this? You've

00:53:59.600 sped up that process. I, again, I think personally that they would have done kind of that anyway,

00:54:04.400 or, or if it wasn't, you know, you didn't exist, your group didn't exist. Someone else would have

00:54:09.520 picked up the mantle at some point and done something, maybe not the same, but like similar

00:54:13.760 or in that vein, whatever this, these, this is a rising tide among every Western nation now,

00:54:19.280 right? There's groups forming active clubs. There's guys getting together. There's political

00:54:24.400 parties being formed, everything. Everyone is trying different tactics. How do we, how do we

00:54:28.480 affect change essentially? And I think that would happen sooner or later anyway, but how,

00:54:32.800 how long to, again, to your critics then, okay, if you didn't do this, we'd have more time to

00:54:38.240 organize. Do you think that's true? And if that's true, how long of a time it's impossible to answer,

00:54:42.560 but you know, hypothetically. Yeah, it is a really hard hypothetical because

00:54:49.040 as I always say on stream, I don't know how time works, you know, like I'm still trying to understand

00:54:54.080 Heidegger, but, um, yeah, it's, uh, there's just so many factors. And again, they have the opposite

00:55:05.200 political theory. You know, they're white nationalists. Absolutely. There's lots of white

00:55:09.040 nationalist groups around the world that don't agree with our political thesis. They don't support

00:55:14.240 it. They don't think it's the right decision. What they, they want time. They're like, we need

00:55:18.720 time. We need more time. We need more time. Like, don't agitate the government. Let the government

00:55:23.520 just be chill. And then if they're really chill and immigration just keeps happening, we can just

00:55:29.680 slowly change things back. Time is on our side. Let's, you know, let's take a hundred years and

00:55:35.680 we can win. And it's like, no, dude, we're going to be like fucking 3% of the population in a hundred

00:55:42.480 years. And everyone's going to hate us. Like, uh, we don't, time is not on our side. Um, you know,

00:55:48.560 we need the government to go mask off as early as possible. So they've got a completely opposite.

00:55:53.120 They're like decelerationists and, um, yeah, their political theory is, is just conservatism.

00:56:00.160 Basically. It's just like a, it's just conservative white nationalism, um, which is just 120 years of

00:56:06.960 failure. Um, so yeah, in the hypothetical scenario of if we never existed, how long would they have to

00:56:16.060 organize before this kind of legislation would ban them? I don't know, probably about the same

00:56:22.980 amount of time as it would take to ban them. I mean, uh, they're going to get banned or they're

00:56:28.560 not going to get banned. And when they get banned, these other groups, it'll be when they're due to

00:56:33.340 be banned, when they're most effective. And when they're, you know, when their head pops above the

00:56:39.000 parapet in the trench, they're going to get, you know, it's tall poppy syndrome, basically.

00:56:44.160 Do you think it's going to go up to the next best thing? We've rode the tiger for five years and we

00:56:49.200 tired it out and we're not even tired. We're just like, all right, cool. We got thrown off.

00:56:53.460 I always tell everyone, you got to ride the tiger. You know, all these people read Evola and no one

00:56:57.760 understands it. You know, I'll admit, I've still got to wrap my head around Heidegger, but I understand

00:57:02.660 Evola and, um, you know, he's not as dry and, uh, it's like, you got to surf the Kali Yuga and

00:57:11.500 sometimes you wash out and we'll just sit on the beach for a bit. It's all right. We'll get,

00:57:14.840 we'll catch another wave. You know, we've ridden the tiger and the tiger is messed up now. When we

00:57:23.340 jumped on the tiger's back five years ago, you know, it was a proud and noble creature that the

00:57:29.900 average person in Australia had nothing but respect for. And now it is a disgusting beast covered in

00:57:36.640 feces. It's thrashed around so frantically to try to deal with 0.0001% of the white population.

00:57:44.260 I mean, look at what 0.0001% of the white population has done to the government. I mean,

00:57:52.220 they've got Tourette's, you know, we've, we've basically buck broken the government and, um,

00:57:59.600 at very little human cost. I mean, we've had a couple of guys deported, very sad. We've had a

00:58:06.320 couple of guys go to jail, me and Joel, basically the only two that are going to jail. Um, so, you know,

00:58:12.040 spokespeople, leaders are most effective. We've had a couple of guys lose their jobs.

00:58:17.680 We've had a couple of guys have their bank accounts shut down. Tim got his house firebombed.

00:58:22.900 Um, you know, we've, we've, we've took some casualties, but it's a war. It's a political

00:58:28.000 war. It is a war. It's a war. We've taken some casualties, but look at the success. Look at how

00:58:33.200 much ground we've taken. I mean, we put national socialism and white nationalism in the newspaper

00:58:40.180 every single day for like five years. I mean, especially the last like six months,

00:58:48.340 there has not been a day. We have not been in the media in the last six months.

00:58:52.140 How's, uh, Joel do, Joel do, by the way, have you talked to him recently?

00:58:58.780 He's, he's gone through, you know, a range of emotions, obviously at the moment here in the

00:59:03.280 news. Um, you know, everyone's got to go through their own kind of grieving processes. We've

00:59:07.880 been fortunate that we're not in solitary confinement, that we've been able to grieve

00:59:11.880 and kind of go through those range of emotions as to our political journey. And, you know,

00:59:17.080 the last five, six years, um, together, and we've been able to process that obviously,

00:59:22.480 you know, Joel is, you know, it's hit him like a ton of bricks. Um, but Joel is very forward

00:59:28.660 thinking. He's very strong willed and he's a very intelligent guy. And so he, he trusts my judgment

00:59:35.640 and the judgment of the other national leaders, um, that this was the right call. He hasn't seen

00:59:40.220 the legislation, but he, he takes on board that, that it probably is as bad as we saying it is.

00:59:45.400 Um, and, you know, like Joel, he's like, uh, you know, he's a brilliant ideas man. Um, and I don't

00:59:52.460 use that as a slur in the case of Joel, cause he's a man of action as well. He's not just an ideas man

00:59:56.860 on the internet, you know, anonymously in my DMs, he's actually gets the work done. Um, and, uh,

01:00:03.880 yeah, he's, you know, already coming up with a whole range of political theories. Um, he's already,

01:00:11.740 you know, he's riding like crazy his, his motivation. He's very, very sharp. Um, this is

01:00:18.860 only sharpening him. Um, and yeah, everyone naturally is a little bit sad. I mean, for most

01:00:27.120 of the guys in the organization, uh, this has been their entire adult lives or sorry, not,

01:00:32.640 maybe not most of the guys in the org, but most of the leadership, this is their entire adult lives.

01:00:36.940 Um, most of the guys that are in a leadership position in this organization joined at some

01:00:43.160 point between the age of probably 16 and 20 and have put in somewhere between three and six years.

01:00:49.920 Yeah. And so, you know what I mean? These are guys in their mid to late twenties now,

01:00:54.060 most of them, and it's been their whole adult life. Yeah. And again, this is, these are the

01:00:59.840 conditions. These are the cards on the table. Um, we are not in control. We don't have all the power.

01:01:04.540 We don't have all the influence and that's, you know, that we we're forced to do what we can

01:01:09.340 within that realm. And now there's a, as a new step, a new line, as you said, has been drawn.

01:01:13.480 And then you, now you move on for here, from here. Right. What do you think about things like

01:01:17.600 to someone asked to, uh, Aussie artist, I'll get to some of the other chats in a moment here,

01:01:20.740 guys. I appreciate that. Thanks guys. Uh, he says, can, can you tell us what you're doing for

01:01:25.040 Australia day or the March, uh, for Australia or best you don't say, he says, I'm not doing anything.

01:01:32.000 This is what people aren't getting in there. This is what people, and if, and we got to do

01:01:37.180 something and whatever I am doing, I'm just doing it as a dude. I'm just doing it as a dude. I'm an

01:01:43.680 individual. Yeah. You're an individual Sunday. I'm an individual. I'm just, you know, we're not

01:01:48.820 doing anything. And me personally, what am I doing? You know, I'm chilling. Can't say people don't

01:01:54.220 realize how bad this is. I've had a hundred people DM me saying like, what's the plan? What are we

01:02:00.320 doing? It's like, I'm not going to jail, uh, unnecessarily. Like I've obviously gone to jail

01:02:07.500 for punching people in the head. I got no issue doing the time, do the crime, do the time. That's

01:02:11.900 the rules. Not allowed to punch people in the head. You punch people in the head, you go to jail.

01:02:15.780 If you've got a really good reason, you don't go to jail. If you've got a moderately good reason,

01:02:19.440 you get knitting. And sometimes I get knitting, you know, I get the community service, but you know

01:02:25.720 what I mean? It's like, I'm not doing 15 years in jail, like Ben Raymond, uh, in the UK, uh, because

01:02:32.340 I want to keep politically organizing with people. I'm not allowed to politically organize with.

01:02:35.920 Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm not a fucking idiot. Um, no, I have a better use of the next 15 years of my time.

01:02:42.980 I'll come up with a plan somewhere between six to 12 months from now. That doesn't mean I'm going on

01:02:47.480 holiday. That doesn't mean I'm not going to be an active spokesperson and I'm not going to still

01:02:51.880 engage politically as an individual. Of course I am. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm obsessed. I'm target

01:02:56.460 fixated. I, I am what I am. I can't change what I am. I am, you know, I have a burning desire to see

01:03:04.480 our country become fucking magnificent again. Like I think about this every day. I cannot rest. I

01:03:10.820 cannot sleep. I never get tired. I just have a burning desire. I am possessed by the national spirit

01:03:16.920 in its truest sense. I cannot stop. Um, but what I can do is I can change track. I can go back to

01:03:23.120 the drawing board and I can come up with what the next stage is, but we're just digesting, you know,

01:03:28.160 we're still just watching all the tribute videos to all the cool shit we've done over the last six

01:03:31.760 years. And we've done some cool shit. Like it's like tears in the rain. You know what I mean?

01:03:36.160 These memories, like there is not going to be a black block, you know, black shirt March

01:03:41.860 in Australia of like hundreds of Nazis marching down the street. Like it was just brilliant. It was

01:03:50.200 just fucking brilliant. We won the game and you know, the critics won't see it that way, but we

01:03:56.400 broke their psyche. We showed everyone that it's possible. We broke the psyche. We broke the slavery.

01:04:02.760 We broke the mental slavery. What we did was mentally liberating. It freed the white men. Like

01:04:09.220 we marched 150 men down the street with a banner that said white man fight back. And we were gearing

01:04:15.180 up for Australia day to have a 250 to 300 man March. We had doubled in size in six months and we

01:04:20.980 were going to do a 250 to 300 man March on Australia day, you know, with the Aussie flags. And, you know,

01:04:28.080 12 months earlier, it was like, we were meant to do an 82 man March and the fucking government locked

01:04:33.560 16 of us up and turned another 20 away from the CBD. And we had like 50 man March. So we went from

01:04:38.080 150, sorry, we went from a 50 to a 150 to basically like a 250, 300. See, this is, this is Adelaide.

01:04:45.300 This is only 12 months ago. And so just in such a short period of time. And so it was just, we had

01:04:51.520 hit exponential. Like the recruitment was just hard to keep up with. And you know, what we had planned

01:04:58.820 for this Australia day was just going to be fantastic. I couldn't leave the state obviously,

01:05:02.160 but Jacob and Jack were going to run nationals. And, uh, it was going to be absolutely fantastic.

01:05:08.500 And, you know, we saw how the public were behind us last, last Australia day. We saw how the public

01:05:14.020 were behind us on August 31st. And, you know, the, the comment sections are just entirely in our favor.

01:05:21.460 You know, every true blooded, you know, red blooded Aussie in this country is just fed up with the

01:05:26.560 government. They're fed up with immigration. They're fed up with cost of living and they're looking for

01:05:31.040 serious change because the wokes have simply gone too far. That's the rhetoric. We've all heard it.

01:05:36.340 We've heard on job sites. We've heard it in workplaces. We hear it in the sauna, you know,

01:05:40.920 and, you know, at, at, you know, footy, et cetera. So everyone's pissed off with the government.

01:05:47.160 Everyone feels let down. Um, and everyone knows the liberal party is not, is not going to make a

01:05:53.340 dent of difference in what's happening. And everyone is very skeptical, skeptical about one nation,

01:05:59.000 which is the, the center right party here in Australia, because Pauline Hanson is just soft,

01:06:03.720 you know, hard might be in the right place, but she's just soft and everyone knows it.

01:06:08.860 And she continues to crack under pressure and she continues to like fold on her principles.

01:06:15.060 You know, she's never been less correct about what's going on, but she's never been more popular

01:06:21.940 because of how bad the situation's gotten. Right. Um, you know, and the platform, the platform she

01:06:27.360 ran in 1998 or whatever it was would win her, you know, she would win the country right now with

01:06:33.080 that platform, but she's just so weak. So people were just begging for an actual return of masculinity,

01:06:39.840 of strong politics, of, you know, an actual revolution in the spirit of our people.

01:06:46.460 And that's what we represented. And it was just growing exponentially. And we were going to be

01:06:50.640 contesting elections on top of that, which is just, you know, to get a seat in their house,

01:06:55.500 they would just be so pissed off that they've got to sit there. And I mean, our plans were so funny.

01:07:00.640 Like we were going to have guys in parliament in black block, like in the NSN uniform, just to

01:07:06.120 them off. Like they're all there in suits and the lefties have got the shamags or whatever the

01:07:11.420 kefirs or whatever it's called. And we were going to be in there with the fucking NSN uniform on.

01:07:18.600 So yeah, they had to shut it down. It was getting too fun.

01:07:22.320 Yeah. What about the, could Pauline Hanson run on that platform from the nineties now under this

01:07:28.540 new legislation or will they? Nah, she's not strong enough. And all her advisors are homosexuals.

01:07:33.200 No, no, I know. But I'm saying like, as a hypothetical again, like,

01:07:36.220 is there something in there that can make them also then go after a political party,

01:07:40.820 strictly just a political party? Is that, could that be considered a hate group? What do you,

01:07:44.800 what do you know about that? On the subject of hypotheticals, hypothetically in time,

01:07:52.760 a political party that is more populist aligned in its positions. Um, that's not explicitly a white

01:07:59.920 nationalist organization. That's not explicitly national socialist, uh, that is not created from

01:08:09.700 the cadre of the entirety of the leadership of the NSN. Hypothetically, that organization could

01:08:16.740 survive and not be considered a hate group. Okay. Well, that's interesting. And it could run

01:08:22.880 on a platform very similar to, you know, Pauline Hanson's 1998, one nation, as opposed to her

01:08:29.820 conservative 2025, 2026, one nation. Cause it's an, is hypothetically possible. Yeah. It, but again,

01:08:37.960 these laws need to be tested first. And, you know, I want to make it very clear to people. And I really,

01:08:47.160 I mean, I just saw it just then. I think we've raised $90,000 now. Let me just check on my phone.

01:08:50.520 Um, but obviously I haven't been, it takes five days for the money to come through. So there's

01:08:54.360 still a chance that the Jews could, um, stop it coming through. You can show it on screen here. We

01:08:57.940 got it up here. The give, send, go. What are we at? Uh, 96. What? 96,000. It was like, it was 88

01:09:05.060 when I checked before. Oh, it's 96 now. So we've raised a hundred thousand dollars in a day. Um,

01:09:12.540 holy crap. Nice. Uh, so we've had two quotes, uh, to get started. Um, one of the quotes was 200 grand

01:09:24.160 and the other quote was 80 grand. Um, and these are both very, very highly respected, uh, firms. Um,

01:09:34.240 and both of them, I don't really want to say their names on stream just yet. Uh, but both of them are

01:09:41.500 people that were connected to mainstream party politics that have been very, very disgruntled.

01:09:49.620 And these are very senior guys within a particular political party, um, that are no longer part of

01:09:56.460 that political party. Um, and they both want it. They both can't have it because they, they, we, they

01:10:03.800 won't form a team because they're different firms. Um, and it would be unnecessary to have both of them

01:10:08.960 do it. Uh, but, uh, what I want to say to people is I really do appreciate all the money and it's very

01:10:17.040 important to have a war chest. You can't win a political war without a war chest. You can't win

01:10:21.960 without resources. And we've always been resource poor. Um, and basically the vast majority of our

01:10:27.300 resources have always gone towards warfare. That's really the only time we crowdfund, um, is just the

01:10:32.700 law fair. It's just so expensive and just try to keep guys out of jail or in this case, try to impact

01:10:39.140 legislation through the high court. Now,

01:10:42.100 but what I will say, which is contradictory to the nature of fighting law fair at this level

01:10:51.760 is that, uh, I believe it's necessary. We need the money in the trust. We need to press the big red

01:10:58.680 button. Lawyers go, you know, lawyers assemble lawyers go. We need to do that. That's something

01:11:04.840 that has to happen. That's part of the process. But what I want to let everyone know is that

01:11:10.640 this war, this political war that we're in is not won by, uh, incessant law fair. I mean,

01:11:19.540 winning this in the high court does not actually, it's just a battle. It's not like, oh, okay. Tyranny

01:11:27.240 over. Um, it's, uh, it's not as important as the kind of lawyers over embellish their successes.

01:11:40.040 Like if they win a case, they go, oh, you know, this is going to transform everything. And this

01:11:43.860 is a landmark case. This is something that if we win in 30, 40 years time, if we haven't won the

01:11:50.280 political, uh, battle or the political struggle, uh, this is something that is going to be relied

01:11:55.600 upon to protect political organizations for generations potentially to come, because we're

01:12:00.440 currently going off high court judgments. Like the idea that we have freedom of speech in this

01:12:05.520 country, which it isn't called that because we don't live in America in Australia, it's called,

01:12:09.660 um, it's called the implied right to political communication is what it's called. And it's

01:12:16.240 established by judgments from the seventies and judgments from the nineties and a judgment, I think

01:12:21.320 from the early two thousands. So these judgments all added up. Um, I don't have them on me at the

01:12:28.720 moment, but I used to be pretty well-versed on them. Uh, when I was self-representing for that

01:12:33.020 case, I had the, uh, offensive behavior one, you know, these judgments have confirmed over

01:12:39.360 and over again, that Australians have the right to political expression, to political

01:12:43.080 communication, including gestures, including things that are offensive, including signs and

01:12:47.440 symbols. And so we've been meaning to challenge the swastika ban and the salute ban since they've

01:12:52.620 been active for about 18 months. We've been meaning to do that, but we've been caught up

01:12:56.720 with so many other projects and, um, it would be a huge symbolic victory to overturn those.

01:13:01.880 And we have a very strong case to have those overturned. Um, on top of that, we need to

01:13:08.120 overturn anything that is passed through this legislation because it bans political organizing

01:13:12.720 in so many ways. But what I want to always remind people is that it's just a battle. It's not the

01:13:17.800 war like winning this little thing, raising a hundred grand and winning, it doesn't actually

01:13:22.700 change. It doesn't go on the offense where you're still all lawfare is all defense. All lawfare is

01:13:30.340 defense. We can't win this through lawfare alone. And we can't win this through legal victories. All

01:13:36.340 we can do is protect our offense, you know, our attempt to take ground. We're just protecting the

01:13:44.080 flanks basically. Yeah. While they're trying to leave us alienated and isolated and cut off

01:13:49.420 so they can, you know, do a encirclement. It's like, um, it's just basic warfare.

01:13:55.420 Yeah. This is, uh, far from over. And it's, it's eternal vigilance, as they say it's, you know,

01:14:01.900 and then 20 years later, here's, here's now they're trying to push through the same thing again,

01:14:07.820 essentially. Right. So that, that's just what it is. That, that, that's not strange. It's not

01:14:10.980 something like you reach a point, then a ha ha, no backseat, you know, that no backseat, take his

01:14:15.580 backseat. That doesn't happen, you know, kind of thing. So, but it's an interesting environment,

01:14:18.640 like overall, just like of a prep, the pressure cooker effect also then that this creates, uh,

01:14:25.660 internally in the population because, because these sentiments are not going away. This is not,

01:14:30.940 this is not how you do it. You know what I mean? It is, they, they are, look, they obviously, as you

01:14:35.660 said, they've won a victory of sorts. Right. But at the same time, they're kind of the prescribed cure

01:14:44.300 here, uh, from their point of view, right. Might be, uh, worse than the, what they deem to be the

01:14:50.540 disease. If that makes sense. Right. That like, yeah, I think my dad said like,

01:14:55.500 uh, it's like the country's got a headache and they're deciding to hit themselves in the head

01:15:00.940 with a hammer to cure it. I think that's an old expression, an axion, like trying to cure a

01:15:07.020 headache with a hammer. That's basically what they've done. Like we've been a headache to the

01:15:10.140 system. We've been a nuisance to it. And their cure is, wait, we've got the hammer out. You know what

01:15:15.820 I mean? Like that's it. Like that's, that's their cure, you know? Bash everything, destroy democracy to

01:15:24.060 save democracy. Liberal democracy is a danger, everybody. Again, we knew that and

01:15:27.900 smash them over the head. We knew that that's the, we know that that's the deal,

01:15:31.420 but to formalize it in such a way, right. To make that the obvious, like they are not interested

01:15:36.540 in actually having any, they're insulating themselves from any attempt at, uh, legally,

01:15:43.100 democratically then, if you will, overthrow the, the power hole that they have on the country.

01:15:46.940 That's what, that's what this is. Yes. If we don't like you, we'll just shut you down and

01:15:51.980 we'll just put you in jail. As you said, this is started with, right? Yeah. I, I personally don't

01:15:56.380 want to risk trying to, uh, trying to go against this bill and then fight a high court decision from

01:16:08.220 jail. I think that if we went ahead with registering the white Australia party, I think that we would win

01:16:14.460 in the high court very easily. If we went and registered the white Australia party with the

01:16:18.540 numbers that we've got, with the names that we've got, um, with the, you know, the, all the paperwork

01:16:23.820 that we've, we've filled out, we'd go and do that. Then the police come to my house and they drag me out

01:16:30.860 in front of my family and then they lock me in soldier confinement. And, you know, we do the high

01:16:37.100 court, uh, battle over one year, over two years, over three years. And I sit in soldier confinement for three

01:16:42.940 years. Then we win. Cause for sure we would like, well, maybe not for sure, but very, very strong

01:16:49.180 chance we would win. So, you know, I got to weigh that up. It's like, okay. So we register the party.

01:16:55.020 They say that, that it doesn't matter that it's a political party because it's a hate group by,

01:16:59.580 by this definition. It's a prescribed hate group before it was a political party. You've built a

01:17:04.220 political party out of a prescribed hate group. That's the issue that we're in. If it, because it's

01:17:09.100 retroactive, the bill is retroactive, which is obviously against all the legal principles of,

01:17:14.940 um, Western civilization. But, um, uh, cause the kind of the rules of Western civilization are

01:17:21.820 you make the rules clear, you make them obvious, you write them down. Everyone agrees to them. There's

01:17:26.140 a, there's like a consensus in society. And then we all play the game by the rules. And if we want to

01:17:29.980 change them, we sit down, we talk about changing the rules. Maybe some people are happy. Some people

01:17:34.860 aren't happy and the rules get changed. Then everyone agrees to the new rules, whether they

01:17:38.940 like them or not. And then we played the game by the new rules. And if we don't like them,

01:17:42.060 we go back and we change them again. That's like, that's how like Western civilization works. And when

01:17:46.460 that, when that breaks down, it's civil war. That's if you study history, that's what happens.

01:17:51.580 Whenever there's a breakdown in not even parliament, because it's even, it's even before, you know,

01:17:58.060 the Westminster system was created. It's like, whenever there's a breakdown in that discourse

01:18:02.620 between different factions of a society or a tribe or a nation, there's war if they can't

01:18:09.420 agree on a set of rules. And, you know, we're not in a position, nor am I advocating for such

01:18:15.580 behavior. I'm just talking about a historical reality. And yeah, yeah, they, they're going

01:18:26.060 against, yeah, they're just, as I said, they're just hitting themselves over a head with a hammer

01:18:30.220 and thinking they're curing the headache. And it's like, you've got to, that's why I called it

01:18:33.900 the magnum opus, because it's like, they've got, we can bow out and we can, you know, not be a we

01:18:40.860 anymore. And then I can, and all these other individuals can figure out, you know, what we're

01:18:46.780 going to do. And we will, or I will. I keep saying we.

01:18:51.020 But the point, the point is, you know what I mean?

01:18:54.620 You know, again, yeah. If you, if you just walk out and do nothing else, obviously, yeah, they,

01:18:59.260 they do win. But as you said, it's just one element, one aspect of how you can engage in

01:19:04.360 the fight and in the battle.

01:19:05.600 And this, this has got to, I mean, maybe I'm being optimistic here, but this has got to bring

01:19:12.360 a whole new generation of politically motivated people into the arena. I mean, me, me, you know,

01:19:23.180 taking my hat off and, and bowing it to the crowd and the curtains close. Um, even if I was to never

01:19:29.320 be seen ever again, which somehow I don't think is going to happen, but let's say hypothetically,

01:19:34.080 I just disappeared. I don't think the problem's been solved at all. I don't think it's a victory

01:19:41.040 from their, you know, from the system's perspective. I am possibly the most, uh,

01:19:49.220 I'm definitely the most controversial, but I'm possibly the most popular political figure in

01:19:54.560 the country. Um, I don't think that's a far fetched statement to make. Uh, I cannot go anywhere in

01:20:03.520 public without people shaking my hand at the moment. I don't even like leaving the house because

01:20:09.120 I'm so high profile that it's, uh, frustrating. Um, I kind of just want to like get eggs from the

01:20:18.380 shop. Um, and don't have to like watch my back and stuff because, you know, for every 10 people

01:20:23.260 that might shake my hand, there's probably one that wants to like put a machete through my head.

01:20:27.340 Um, but, uh, yeah, it's just, there's no way that the average person, uh, watching what's going on,

01:20:39.020 that's a young guy, maybe not the average person because the average person is pretty lazy, but

01:20:43.060 if you're a young guy and you're watching what's going on, you're in high school or you're at uni

01:20:47.380 or you're, you're a young tradie and you're politically active in a sense of keeping an eye

01:20:52.660 on things. And you're watching the government basically get rid of democracy in order to stop

01:20:57.900 its political opposition. I would think that that would radicalize a lot of young white men

01:21:06.120 into wanting to become politically active and engaged and not necessarily join an org, but perhaps

01:21:13.220 they might start looking deeper into things. They might start reading books. Um, they might start

01:21:18.340 looking at creating their own org when they can see what this framework looks like. Uh, you know

01:21:24.760 what I mean? I wouldn't suggest joining an existing org until this framework has been established,

01:21:30.380 until the new rules are clear. When the new rules are clear, then we can work out, you know,

01:21:36.180 when I say we, I mean the movement as a whole, all these young guys that are spectating from the

01:21:41.240 sidelines on Tik TOK and Instagram, they can say, okay, this is what these guys did. This is what the

01:21:45.600 NSN did, you know, and we're a case study now, like we're a case study. Now the way that we studied

01:21:52.320 all these other groups, you know, when we started the NSN, we studied national action. We studied

01:21:57.840 Antipodean resistance. We studied Ladd Society. We studied United Patriots Front. We studied what

01:22:03.280 was going on in America with all the different American movements. We studied Casa Pound. You

01:22:07.720 know, we studied Nordic resistance movement. You know, we studied, we talked and talked and talked

01:22:13.500 and talked, you know, we got around the campfire. Um, you know, we had dinner together, you know,

01:22:18.300 we watched YouTube together, you know, and, and the think tank, that's, that's the cadre

01:22:24.640 building, the think tank got together and it kind of creates a hive mind. And then, you know,

01:22:30.460 they can't stop that. There's just so many young guys now that are watching this and they're playing

01:22:34.680 video games together, or, you know, they're playing FIFA together or whatever it is, or, you know,

01:22:39.040 they're playing footy together and they're watching this and it's ticking over now. So there's a whole

01:22:46.200 generation of people that are going to be inspired by what we did. And that's going to propel energy.

01:22:51.960 Like they're not putting out the flame. They haven't put out the flame. And what we did was

01:22:56.660 we took an ember. We took a tiny, tiny little ember. There was no fascism in Australia in 2020.

01:23:04.360 There was no national socialism in Australia in 2020. There was no radical, you know, white

01:23:10.640 nationalism. There was very tiny, sporadic little embers across the country. And we took all those

01:23:18.420 little embers and we put them all together and we put all the fuel on the fire and we built a great

01:23:24.300 flame. And our last nationals, our last act, you know, I mean, that white Australia is rising.

01:23:32.320 I mean, that's like a spiritual, you know, that was both a funeral for the movement in some ways,

01:23:38.040 because that was the last thing we ever did as a national organization, because we didn't get to

01:23:42.440 this Australia Day. And when you watch that footage now, it hits different. When you watch that winter

01:23:47.240 doco, the winter nationals doco, and you watch the march, the torch lit march, and you watch the

01:23:54.260 speeches and, you know, you see the energy, you now look at it with a completely different,

01:24:02.060 you know, now with hindsight that we did that and then they had to ban us. It's like

01:24:06.920 that fire has now been lit. You know, we did that on the, you know, one of the coldest days of the year.

01:24:14.940 There was a meteor strike where we were camping. There was a meteor strike. It was a 1400th

01:24:22.040 anniversary of the burial of King Redwald in the Sudden Who mask. You know, it was at Phoenix Park.

01:24:34.040 I mean, there was a lot of synchronicities to that which we performed, even beyond our own control.

01:24:42.440 It just happened organically. It happened without us. It happened by providence. And yeah, so, you know,

01:24:52.980 it was, I've had a, I won't mention the person by name. I won't say their name, but I had a really

01:24:59.860 interesting conversation with an American about a year and a half ago. And they said to me that what

01:25:07.560 they really liked about what we were doing was they didn't describe it as lab, but they described

01:25:12.680 it as right-wing drama. They said, you know, the left wing have been quite successful with their,

01:25:18.860 their drama, their dramatized politics. They've made politics interesting. And the right wing is

01:25:23.280 really boring. It has no energy. It has no dramatization. It doesn't feel like there's any

01:25:28.480 energy in it. And what I really like about what you guys have done, even if I don't disagree,

01:25:32.700 don't agree with like you guys a hundred percent, I really liked that you've made politics so

01:25:37.600 interesting, so dramatic. You've turned it into a story. You've turned it into something

01:25:42.940 worth paying attention to. And, you know, Rousseau, for example, with Patriot Front,

01:25:48.800 he talks about the spectacle of the march, how important the spectacle of it is, the flags and

01:25:54.360 the uniforms and, you know, the drums and the speeches. And there's a, there's a, there's a

01:26:02.080 kind of left wing artistic ethos to their politics. And obviously it's, it's gay and cringe. And then

01:26:08.240 what is a right wing demonstration? What is a right wing march? Why is it always done in a particular

01:26:15.020 way? Why is it nationally across the world? When you see those hype videos of like, this is happening

01:26:19.940 in Australia, this is happening in Britain, this is happening in America, this is happening in Germany,

01:26:24.100 like, and it's like Nordic resistance movement. And then it's like Azov, and then it's like

01:26:27.420 Blood Tribe, and it's like Patriot Front, and it's like NSN. When you watch those like montages,

01:26:32.660 it's like, why do they all have this really similar energy to them? Why do they, how have they innately

01:26:38.620 come to these same conclusions that we have to like demonstrate in this similar fashion?

01:26:45.620 Why is it all got the same ethos to it? And you'll find it's because it's beyond left wing and right

01:26:52.060 wing. There is a cult of the hero and a cult of heroism. And there was a cult of the traitor and

01:26:59.340 a cult of treasonous anarchy. And they display themselves. One is attracted to honor and strength

01:27:07.560 and beauty. And it wants to display that in a way that creates a spectacle out of what we can turn

01:27:16.900 the Australian man or the white man into. And the other obviously is like, you know, Mardi Gras,

01:27:24.260 and you know, these climate activist movements, and they're always doing just cringe freaky shit.

01:27:29.980 And it's basically how ugly can we turn, you know, society into and how ugly can we turn and how weak

01:27:36.620 can we turn the average man into. And yeah, when you see the two worlds, you know, side by side in

01:27:47.340 such, such a fashion, you know, it's the power of juxtaposition that ultimately politics is moving in one

01:27:54.760 of these two directions, all the politics that is stationary, that stagnant is dying. And politics is always

01:28:01.340 moving in a direction. And we are trying to move it in the opposite direction to these demon freaks

01:28:08.760 that are destroying our countries. And so then now you have to pick a side, and you have three options.

01:28:15.620 And Hitler says this in Mein Kampf, all my life, I've only known three people, the fighters,

01:28:22.160 the traitors, and the lukewarm, you know, and so you either go with the fighters, the heroes,

01:28:28.000 you go with the traitors, you know, the communists, or you go with the lukewarm, the stagnant, the,

01:28:33.940 the, you know, the slow death in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think people are attracted to that

01:28:41.960 aesthetic, and especially as the rot has set in, the dominance of the spiteful mutants in our culture

01:28:48.780 for, you know, decades now. And there is a hunger for that, just the visual alone, you know, I mean,

01:28:55.320 even just seeing, seeing, seeing the strength, as you talk about, it's highly important to seed that

01:29:02.980 into kind of the mass consciousness that something like that is, is possible. And even if that's not

01:29:07.800 like, as you said, even if this thing that you were doing, it isn't the end, and, and goal of the

01:29:14.660 thing, it is an ember, and it is a spark, right? And they were trying to blow out that fire. But I think

01:29:20.060 in the, in their attempt to do it, I think it will simply come back twice as strong, three times as

01:29:25.240 strong, I don't know, a hundred times as strong, eventually. Because as I said before, you can't

01:29:30.780 just put a lid on this and expecting it to go away by lawfare, and then thinking that up, all down,

01:29:37.060 we, we, we defeated it, it's now gone. No, these, these sentiments will build. And in fact,

01:29:41.760 when the expression, the ability to express that is not there, now you're building up actually even

01:29:47.380 more energy under the surface for it to come out. That's what I believe, to be honest,

01:29:51.240 it's going to explode at some point. Yeah. Yeah. We created a movement that inspired strength.

01:30:02.840 And you get asked all the time by people that don't understand that they don't, you know, how does

01:30:09.480 doing pushups in the park, or how does doing a torch lit march lap, how does it, you know, save the

01:30:16.620 country. And it's like, what we did with our propaganda, what we did with these marches,

01:30:24.000 was we tapped into the subconscious, you know, the media will cause brainwashes. They love saying

01:30:30.060 that, like people can't make up their own mind about things. But the only part of it that is

01:30:35.820 brainwashing in any way, or effective propaganda, is that it, it connects people, not just purely at

01:30:45.180 the conscious, like, oh, here are our political policies. We want to reduce immigration. We want

01:30:50.520 to improve, you know, we want to fight against the cost of living crisis, blah, blah, blah. It's all

01:30:55.820 boring. Like, it doesn't tap into the psyche. It doesn't tap into the subconscious. It doesn't

01:31:01.240 satiate the soul of man. This politics is boring. It is stagnant. It is gay. It is fruitless.

01:31:10.220 It doesn't achieve anything. It's unsuccessful. What we achieved with our politics was

01:31:17.100 these videos went viral. Millions and millions of people, tens of millions of people have watched

01:31:24.860 our videos. They've watched our footage. They've seen our marches. They've seen our demonstrations.

01:31:30.500 And even just five seconds, just five seconds of one of our demonstrations, just the right angle,

01:31:37.340 the right shot with the drum going, or with the music overlaid over the top of it, you can feel

01:31:43.740 an energy tap into your subconscious. It hits the white man somewhere archaic. Like, the science that

01:31:53.860 went into this, most people can't respect. Like, most people don't respect the science that went into

01:32:01.560 how we did this. I'll give you an example. We had guys studying the root of language.

01:32:11.400 Like Jacob, for example, myself, some of the musicians, we had, we studied the roots of language

01:32:20.200 language to create chants that tap into the subconscious.

01:32:29.400 So I'll give an example. The left have a chant here in Australia that everyone knows. It's a very

01:32:33.680 successful chant. And it goes this, always was, always will be Aboriginal land. And it's this whiny,

01:32:41.360 passive aggressive, weak, beta, faggot, annoying fucking chant. And it gets stuck in your head because

01:32:49.020 it's just this whiny little dickhead doing it. Whereas we did blood and honor. We did white man

01:32:58.060 fight back. And these, I don't want to go through the archaic language of how we came to these things

01:33:05.860 because people think, oh, they just took it from the Hitler youth. Well, the Hitler youth had lots

01:33:10.000 of mottos. Like the Hitler, the NSDAP had lots of mottos. Why did we pick that one? Why did we pick

01:33:15.000 these words? Why did we pick these sounds? You know, and, and we understood that there's, it comes

01:33:24.580 down to literally an archaic vibration to awaken the soul and awaken the instinct of us at the most

01:33:33.420 base level to be like, we're losing our country. We're actually losing our country and we need to

01:33:39.220 ignite a strength that's in our bones. That's like so deep guttural. You could say it's guttural

01:33:46.000 almost. And, uh, you know, I hope one day people can respect the art that we performed,

01:33:52.300 you know, the lap. We were masters of the lap. The days of lopping are almost over. It's so sad.

01:33:58.940 I hope everyone else can continue laughing. LARPing will return.

01:34:02.260 It will look, lopping will return, right? Cause what they've done, you know, if we get a little

01:34:07.880 bit deeper into this bill, what they've done is they've banned lopping because lopping is so

01:34:13.620 effective because first they came for the swastika and the Roman salute. And now they've just come

01:34:20.840 for the whole lab. Now the whole lab organization can't exist. Now the whole, um, you know, the whole

01:34:27.500 right-wing drama club is going to be shut down. It's sad. It's a sad state, but it will return.

01:34:34.540 First, it was simply that, um, hooked cross and your arm in that direction. You're not allowed to

01:34:40.240 do that on the stage anymore. Gets a crowd a little bit too excited. The crowd go a little bit too

01:34:45.520 excited when you do that on stage, not allow that one. And then we'll, all right, we'll keep LARPing,

01:34:51.240 but we just won't do the special cross and we just won't do the special arm movement, but we'll keep

01:34:55.720 LARPing. And then they're like, nah, they figured out how to make it just as good, even without the

01:35:00.280 special cross. I mean, they fear the special cross, you know, they do not like the swastika.

01:35:06.480 They really, cause it's magical. Magic is real. That's why they have to make this shit illegal.

01:35:10.960 Yeah. It's a talismanic, um, you know, energy behind it for sure. There's something,

01:35:15.960 there's something with it. It's like kryptonite.

01:35:17.440 Basically they've banned our magic. We've got to like, I've got to go back to the drawing board.

01:35:22.040 People keep asking me, what are we doing? What are we doing? Well, there is no, we,

01:35:25.060 I am going back to the drawing board. I will look into the runes. I will discover the magic of the

01:35:32.180 ancients and I'll get back to you. Nine days on the tree. Give your eye. Let's go.

01:35:38.360 Sacrified. Well, yeah, exactly. A couple of chats here. We'll, we'll take some of these here too.

01:35:43.100 Uh, Mr. Marsh Wood, thank you for everything, Tom. The destiny of our people is coming and it cannot

01:35:48.200 be stopped. Hail victory. Hail Australia. He says, it's coming man. It's coming. The man.

01:35:54.820 Exactly. Uh, raging discerning. Jeremy, good to see you. He says, hail, no surrender. Best of luck

01:35:59.580 from Canada. Good job. Good to see you, Jeremy. You guys are doing great with, uh, second sounds

01:36:04.940 obviously. Uh, Aussie autistic and idiot. Do we just the looks max for 12 months then? Where,

01:36:10.080 what's Blair's steroid stack? Or maybe it's where's Blair's steroid stacks? He's asking.

01:36:15.440 Looks maxing. Yeah. Do a clavicular. What was his name again? Lots of jaw surgery. That's,

01:36:20.720 that's, that's the name of the game. Uh, the best way to looks, looks max is to eat well and go

01:36:27.140 for a run. That's the best way. It looks nice. I noticed, yeah, I noticed a big difference

01:36:34.980 in my facial structure when I stopped eating goy slop and I started doing cardio again. I was like,

01:36:41.460 why didn't I do this? If you look at old photos of me in like my mid twenties, I look really not well.

01:36:46.840 Like I, I don't, I don't necessarily look long younger now because I'm bald, but if I had hair,

01:36:52.300 I would certainly look younger now at 32 than I was at, um, at like 25.

01:36:57.980 Oh, it works. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Very important. Just, um, younger and healthier, you know, like more.

01:37:04.000 Yeah. Just, just chewing, chewing meat. There's so much pre-processed goddamn food. It's like baby

01:37:09.360 food. It's like, you know, smoothies and shit, you know, just, you know, I've been on the

01:37:14.620 biltong and the jerky for years now and it's goaded. It goes hard. Yeah, it does. A couple

01:37:21.020 of more. As the Zoom is saying. Hank. The jerky's goaded. Hank, is it Hank Moo or Hank M double O?

01:37:26.900 I don't know. But, uh, he says, but a lot of these young white Australian men have non-white

01:37:31.580 male friends and even relatives. Communities have become so in, inextricably connected. It's complex.

01:37:38.280 He says, well, I don't think that's, uh, yeah, friends. I mean, that happens when you're young,

01:37:44.980 but usually there's like, um, it levels out. I mean, unless you race mix and actually like

01:37:51.040 end your bloodline or whatever, right? Yeah, sure. You can't undo that. Um, but usually a little bit

01:37:57.300 later in life, um, most people, they, they align, uh, not always obviously, but, but many, uh, they,

01:38:03.520 they come, they come to realize that like racial lines is, is, uh, is real. It's a, it's a definitive

01:38:08.260 thing. And in many regards, um, people find their place. I think, I don't know if you have a comment

01:38:11.980 on that. Ah, just if I need a holiday, if I'm tired, it's from questions like that. Like I just hate,

01:38:22.340 I just want to punch him in the head. Like when people say shit like that to me, it's not constructive.

01:38:26.220 Hank, you're shooting it down here. It's like, but what do we do about the fact that there's guys in high

01:38:31.780 school with Asian friends? It's like, shut the fuck up, dude. Just fucking go for a run.

01:38:39.060 It's so complex though. Uh, okay. We've got a couple of more here. Uh, we got, uh, the bearded

01:38:45.380 Indian logging in late. Can NSN rebrand to Jew lovers for Australia and go full sarcasm in name

01:38:52.980 and messaging? Yeah. I heard some of these, uh, ideas bounce around as well. Just repent,

01:38:57.520 Thomas, just like crawl to the, the star of David. The boys were joking. The boys were joking that you

01:39:04.800 could rebrand as like, like anti-racist Hitler. You know that meme? Yeah. Where you could, yeah,

01:39:10.160 you could rebrand as like Jew lovers Australia, but, um, you're still politically organizing as the same

01:39:16.800 people under a different name. It doesn't matter. You can call yourself a love group, but you're

01:39:20.600 retroactively a hate group. So it doesn't matter. There's no way to circumvent it. They made it

01:39:25.100 bulletproof. It hasn't passed yet, but look, it's just gonna be bulletproof plus a whole bunch of

01:39:30.240 extra gay shit. So. All right. We got to hear one here from a based rat 1488. Hey, Mr. Thomas Sewell,

01:39:37.660 mate, based rat here. I was really hoping to see the boys at the March for Australia. It would have

01:39:42.120 been memes to see your, you boys memeing commies. Looks like the rat will have to defend MAF. I'm

01:39:51.400 going to sell inside baseball here. MAF. What is that? Uh, March for Australia. Oh, okay. That's

01:39:56.220 right. Yeah. That makes sense. Okay. I thought it was something else. I'm going to subgroup or

01:40:00.180 something. Okay. Um, the beard Indian again here said, um, no cocaine, uh, rim job says I for one

01:40:07.320 look forward to Tom opening a men's Jewish yoga studio to get around the band. Heil to both of you.

01:40:13.100 Well, thank you. Cocaine rim job. Yeah. Is that in the cards? Do you think a, uh,

01:40:16.220 men's Jewish yoga studio? Hmm. No, no, no, no. All right. No, no. That's a no cocaine room

01:40:24.440 job. Um, okay. So we've kind of asked already a little bit about that, or you've talked about

01:40:32.180 it, right? Well, what do we, you know, what do we do? Not kind of thing, but give it, give

01:40:35.180 it a little time, right? This, this is the nature of it. It doesn't mean I saw it as a, as

01:40:39.240 a closing of one chapter and perhaps the beginning of a new, that's, that's basically how I would

01:40:44.500 see it from, you know, from here. But, uh, well, yeah. Yeah. What do you think?

01:40:48.360 And you can't spoil it. Like, it's like the chapter hasn't closed yet. We haven't done

01:40:52.000 the full closing ceremony. The chapter hasn't closed yet. And everyone's already asking what's

01:40:57.800 in the next chapter. And it's like, well, you're just gonna have to wait and see. Um, and, uh,

01:41:06.000 yeah, it's like the zoom of dopamine brain. It's like, they want to know, they want to skip

01:41:09.520 to the next season. They haven't even finished the first season. Let's just pack up what we

01:41:14.200 started. Season Tom, this is tick tock scroll 20 seconds. That's it. You know what I mean?

01:41:18.940 Yeah. Season one, season two. Yeah. Like I, I had a zoomer explained to me the other day

01:41:22.660 that, um, game of Thrones is like millennial coded that like no one in the zoomer generations

01:41:27.760 got that attention span of watch game of Thrones. I thought that was funny. I was like, is it

01:41:32.080 really millennial coded? It's gay as fuck. So yeah, probably it is. I saw a couple, but I

01:41:36.700 was going to say something intelligent. Um, but I, sorry. That's right. I was, there was

01:41:42.940 a question. Uh, what was it? Was it, what was the question after the Jew yoga society?

01:41:49.600 Uh, was it the last one? Let me go back here. Uh, do you loads for Australia going for full

01:41:55.780 sarcasm messaging? Was that the one? I'm sorry. Let me go back here then. I deleted it.

01:42:01.660 Maybe I lost my train of thought. Uh, I don't know about that thing. I think that

01:42:05.380 was, those were it. It was the one about the, uh, it's complex. And then it was the

01:42:09.340 one about the, from the bearded Indian, the sarcasm, uh, and then it was cocaine rim

01:42:14.380 job anyway. So, um, Oh, um, no, go ahead.

01:42:18.020 Yeah. About Adolf Hitler, uh, was asked a question, uh, at the end of the second world

01:42:29.900 war. Uh, and he, he pulled aside a group of young soldiers and he gave them medals for

01:42:36.620 destroying Soviet tanks coming into Berlin. And he said to the soldiers that the war is

01:42:42.940 over. And he's a young boys. A lot of them were just teenagers. He said, the war is over.

01:42:47.100 And basically we've lost. And one of the young soldiers turned to Hitler and said, who do we

01:42:53.500 fight for now? And Hitler replied for the coming man. And so that, those were my instructions.

01:43:03.100 That's where I picked up the torch. I, from day one realized that this was a fight for the coming man.

01:43:13.420 And so all these people asking me, oh, well, you know, the NSN is dead. Uh, what, what do I fight

01:43:25.020 for now? Like, you know, what am I going to do with my life? Uh, and the answer is there is still

01:43:31.980 a fight for the coming man. It's not over. It's never, it's never over. It's a struggle to infinity.

01:43:39.260 Yeah. That is life is struggle. Of course. You know, that's what it is. If there, imagine if

01:43:45.900 there were no struggle, holy shit, that would be fucking depressing. That would be a horrible

01:43:51.180 existence. Um, lion cross. It'd be that, it'd be that brave new world type stuff. Oh my gosh.

01:43:57.900 Everyone's just drugged up. Well, that's what's coming, isn't it? With all the AI shit and all the

01:44:01.340 AI slop and just endless entertainment by prompts. Uh, we've not, not seen anything yet on the front line

01:44:07.180 crosses. I agree with the cardio thing. One hour every morning with good nutrition and lifting makes

01:44:11.420 you look great. You also don't have to wear deodorant because you smell good naturally as it,

01:44:17.180 as toxins sweat out. How about that? Natural pheromones, bring it back. Love it. Uh,

01:44:22.380 one more here from Aussie Autist 88. Does this mean you'll be wage slaving for now?

01:44:27.500 Uh, that's a really good question. Uh, the thought hadn't entered my mind until today. Uh, yeah,

01:44:39.420 I would be looking at, uh, my primary focus is politics. Uh, so I would be looking at doing

01:44:50.460 something that helps the broader movement as a whole. Uh, yeah, I don't, I don't want to go back

01:44:59.980 to laboring. I've done my time laboring. Um, I still have the body for it. Like I'm not,

01:45:05.180 I'm not injured or anything like that. I, I can get back on the roof if I want to, and maybe I might

01:45:10.620 have to part-time, but, uh, I'm thinking outside the box at the moment. So it might take me a couple

01:45:18.540 weeks to come up with something, but what I'm really focusing on is not so much cultural space,

01:45:26.300 but I think there's a way that I can impact politics and, uh, manage something that's not

01:45:34.540 an organization. Yeah. I know that's very vague, but I don't want to give away what my plans are.

01:45:40.060 No, no, I get, I totally get it. And again, this is very secondary, but I'm sure people are wondering

01:45:44.140 as well. Uh, do you, can you, can you stream still? Like, are these, is this okay?

01:45:49.740 I can, I can, um, but that wasn't where my head was going. Uh, I've never streamed for, um, uh, income.

01:45:59.900 Uh, I'm, I, I don't have anything against doing it. Um, but I would rather, I, I stream person,

01:46:07.740 personally, I stream for catharsis. I don't stream for any other reason. So, uh, it would be against

01:46:16.460 my nature to stream, uh, like, uh, routinely like, Oh, I have to stream today because yeah,

01:46:23.180 like turning that into a gig. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't do it. Um, because I, I, again,

01:46:27.660 I stream for catharsis. So, uh, and I stream to help myself think, uh, for me,

01:46:33.740 streaming is like thinking time. Um, it's a really good excuse to just spend two hours just

01:46:39.740 thinking and, and speaking, but, uh, it's always good to practice speaking, especially if you want

01:46:45.020 to be a politician. Um, but yeah, I am quite limited what I can do and my rhetoric is going

01:46:51.420 to have to change. I'm unfortunately going to have to brainwash myself, um, so that I don't slip up. I

01:46:56.540 mean, you, you mentioned Joel before, how is he going? You know, he's been charged with another,

01:47:00.620 like five or six offenses. Right. Uh, I've been charged with another two offenses.

01:47:05.500 Um, that is unrelated to all this stuff, unrelated to violence. It's just, you hurt people's feelings

01:47:11.020 on this day at this time. And here's a witness statement. It's just crazy stuff. Um, it's just

01:47:16.620 crazy stuff. So yeah, there's a lot of lawfare involved with that. So, um, yeah, I've got lots

01:47:25.260 of options. I've got lots, lots of options of things that I can do. I'm still young. Um, so I can still work

01:47:30.220 part-time laboring, uh, you know, I've actually been laboring all day today, but for myself, not,

01:47:36.460 not for, um, uh, for an income and, uh, you know, I can always go back to uni. Like I, I never finished

01:47:43.740 my engineering degree. Uh, maybe that might come in handy. Might be, might be good to just draw some

01:47:49.020 more triangles. Um, I'm not sure how that will help, but it could, could be cathartic. Uh, yeah,

01:47:55.820 I'm just in a, in a mode at the moment where I'm thinking, okay, what are my options

01:48:00.300 for perpetuating and strengthening? Cause sometimes you gotta, I've been through this a lot of times,

01:48:06.540 not just as an organization. I've had to come back to the drawing board because I did the UPF thing

01:48:11.020 with Blair, uh, when I was 21 through to about 22 and a half, 23. Um, from UPF, I built Ladd Society

01:48:17.980 because the UPF project didn't, you know, go all the way. Um, from Ladd Society, I, you know, that kind of

01:48:23.900 fell apart and I built the European Australian movement from the European Australian movement,

01:48:28.220 obviously in connection with the NSN, we built wide Australia. Uh, so we've had a good sort of

01:48:34.300 six year run, but this is technically like chapter three for me. I've done this twice before where the

01:48:40.300 shows come to an end and we've had to go back to the drawing board. Uh, and you know, and that's over

01:48:44.060 about 11 years. So, uh, and then, but more so at a psychological level, you know, I used to compete in

01:48:50.940 Olympic weightlifting. Uh, I was at one point, I think third or fourth in the country for Olympic

01:48:55.820 weightlifting. Nice. And, uh, you know, every time I would get close to like the national championships,

01:49:02.460 um, I would have an injury. Like I was just pushing myself too hard. I wasn't sleeping right. I wasn't

01:49:07.340 dieting right. And I wasn't taking it as seriously as I should have. And, uh, you know, just the

01:49:13.900 inflammation would build up and then I'd, you know, I was in chronic pain and then eventually something

01:49:17.900 would snap. I just trained through the pain and then something would break. And, uh, you know,

01:49:23.500 I'd have to go back to square one every time. Uh, so I've got a lot of experience. I mean,

01:49:27.020 I bulged my L5 S1 and, um, L4, L5 disc in my lower back, uh, probably five or six times each.

01:49:35.180 Um, you know, bulge, you know, recovery for 12 months and then it happens again. And then

01:49:39.900 I've torn both my rectus femoruses. So on the right side and the left side, a grade, uh,

01:49:44.780 three and a grade two, um, I've torn both rotator cuffs, like the front ones. Um, I've had horrible

01:49:51.820 pain in my wrists from like, you know, all the overhead work, you know, the snatch clean and jerk,

01:49:55.980 you know, presses, push presses, um, yeah, back knees, everything, uh, massive patella tendonitis,

01:50:03.180 like the Oscar Shatler's. Um, you know, I've had to do so much physical rehab from physical injuries

01:50:10.860 from doing Olympic weightlifting as a sport that it actually has helped my psychology of

01:50:15.740 just resilience and just being able to accept, okay, we can't do 130 kilo snatches and 160

01:50:22.940 kilo clean and jerks today at training. We've got to do step ups and lunges and hyper extensions.

01:50:29.740 And that to people that don't go to the gym or don't know much about Olympic weightlifting or back

01:50:33.740 rehab, that might not make much sense, but you know, sometimes when you see someone put up a 200

01:50:40.540 kilo clean and jerk on the platform, on the stadium in a competition, you don't realize that maybe only

01:50:46.060 two years ago, they were going through a rehab phase in their training cycle and they were doing

01:50:51.020 all this bizarre stuff that you wouldn't think applied in any way to what they're doing now.

01:50:56.220 And so I understand like what's called periodic training. And so, you know, we can look at things

01:51:03.580 in election cycles. You know, there's an election cycle coming up in 2028. Were we gearing up for

01:51:08.460 that election cycle? And now we've just torn a quad, you know what I mean? Coming, coming up to 2028

01:51:14.060 national weightlifting champion. That's kind of what it feels like. It's like, right. Okay. Well,

01:51:18.620 my quad is torn. What the fuck am I going to do now? How am I going to clean and jerk, you know,

01:51:22.380 170 kilos at the nationals that's coming up? I'm broken. I'm injured. So yeah, resilience,

01:51:30.780 you know, playing sport or doing a athletic activity at a high level is really important

01:51:36.540 for building mental resilience. That's what all athletes have in common. I mean, there are some

01:51:40.460 athletes that are just really lucky and they never get injured on their journey ever. And then there

01:51:45.220 are people that, um, yeah, maybe don't have the right support network, masseuses, coaches,

01:51:50.820 nutrition, blah, blah, blah. And they, um, they just have an iron will and they just break all the

01:51:55.780 time, uh, because they're trying to leave humanity behind and push, you know, the body to the, to the

01:52:01.220 limit of what it's capable, um, without the support. So yeah, as I said, I've got experience with these

01:52:07.140 scenarios and I might do things over the next six months that most people think, oh, Tom's fallen off.

01:52:13.140 Like, um, Blair put out a video or a voice message, I think yesterday. And he was talking about like,

01:52:19.300 you know, how, like, you know, the Catholic church is really good and all this sort of stuff. And

01:52:23.460 I had a whole bunch of people message me like, no, don't tell me Blair's converting to Catholicism

01:52:28.100 and like all this sort of stuff. And I'm like, no, no, like you don't understand what he said.

01:52:31.460 Like he's talking kind of generally, he's not, he's not like blackpilled on nationalism and now

01:52:36.820 he's going to become a Catholic priest. Like that's not what he was saying in his voice message. Um,

01:52:41.860 yeah. So it's kind of like that. Like I might do some things over the next six to 12 months that

01:52:45.220 might seem a bit outside the box, but it's all part of, it's all part of the rehab and, um,

01:52:52.740 resilience and anti-fragility to make sure that whatever is happening in the future, there's a straight

01:52:57.860 run to, you know, an election cycle or a straight run to, you know, some sort of political or

01:53:03.620 meta-political, uh, victory. You have to let things, uh, kind of simmer a little bit and sit on it,

01:53:11.940 mull on it for a while. And it's probably, uh, yeah, it's, that would be just kind of irrational

01:53:18.180 to, to just try to jump into something else, like kind of right away. Do you know what I mean? That's like

01:53:22.100 that it's kind of a, it's a symbolic thing. It is what it is. It's happened, but it's probably better.

01:53:26.980 Okay. Chill out for a while. And as you said, see, see how this settles as well. Is it, is it now,

01:53:31.300 is this going to affect other groups? What, what happens with the Marshall for Australia? Are they

01:53:34.660 going to go after others? What, what's the new environment? As you said, you get a kind of,

01:53:38.100 what's the game board like? How can you maneuver in the new environment? That's basically what you

01:53:42.100 have to figure out here, you know? Yeah. And I think what most people are asking that question,

01:53:47.540 I guess they're asking me because they don't know what they're going to do themselves. So it's,

01:53:51.540 it's a fair question. Yeah. I mean, and that's, that's fine. That's what it is. I mean,

01:53:55.140 you're in a leadership role. So, you know, you don't, yeah, you don't, one thing that, uh,

01:54:00.020 leaders often cursed with is, uh, I think it's called trained helplessness is that sometimes if

01:54:05.620 you're too effective as a leader, you actually become ineffective because people are always

01:54:10.180 asking you for advice and you don't want to be, you want to be able to train really effective leaders

01:54:15.300 can train, uh, leaders that show initiative. And, uh, I studied the German leadership model,

01:54:21.380 um, like of the general staff and how, um, they train their generals, uh, you know,

01:54:26.180 in the lead up to the second world war. And it was absolutely fascinating model. And I, I know a

01:54:30.580 little bit about, uh, military leadership through the short time I spent in the Australian army,

01:54:34.500 but I did read the pamphlets. I read the PAMs. Um, but, uh, yeah, it, it always, always, um,

01:54:43.300 at the middle management level encourages initiative. Initiative seems to be what, what they call,

01:54:48.180 what the Germans called the operations level was like initiative. You need to just give people a

01:54:52.900 goal and then what they need to do, what the best leaders have, sorry, not leaders leaders,

01:54:59.140 not like at a strategic level, but at that middle level operations, what the best operational,

01:55:03.860 yeah, managerial leaders have is they have initiative to get a goal from their leader,

01:55:09.860 from like a higher leader. They can hear the goal and then they can make that work. They can put that

01:55:14.660 into practice. They're like, okay, this is what we need to achieve. This is the timeline we have.

01:55:18.660 These are the resources we have. And then they have to do the work.

01:55:22.020 Find a way.

01:55:23.220 Yeah. And then you've got junior level leaders, like what, what you call junior leaders or in

01:55:26.900 the army, they call them like NCOs or, you know, in a, in a business, you'd call it like, you know,

01:55:31.540 you know, lower management. They're like, their goal is the tactics, you know, they need to implement

01:55:36.820 tactics. So you've got strategy operations and tactics and, you know, the young guys that are maybe

01:55:41.940 in charge of a small team of guys, four guys, eight guys, 10 guys, whatever, you know,

01:55:45.460 their job is to make sure that, you know, everyone's shoelaces are tied. And if it's

01:55:49.940 McDonald's, you know, their hat is on straight and their name tag is on their chest. And the

01:55:53.860 fries are cooked for, you know, a minute and 45 seconds. And the oil is correct. And,

01:55:58.900 you know, they're, they're looking, they're managing things at a tactical level. Like they're,

01:56:03.220 you know, there's a, there's a million or, you know, for McDonald's, it's probably a million,

01:56:06.660 you know, team leaders, you know, to make that whole company work. And it's like, they're the

01:56:10.900 ones that are maintaining the schedules and the routines and the, it's all about discipline.

01:56:15.300 That's why, I mean, they call them corporals. You know what I mean? It's like, it's all about

01:56:18.500 discipline. It's about like, here's the program. And you got to be kind of like, you got to be an

01:56:23.220 order man to make that work. Whereas the middle management, it's more about initiative. It's more

01:56:30.180 like, okay, why is the McDonald's in this suburb doing better than the one in this suburb? You

01:56:35.300 know, it's, it can't be just, we're doing minute 45 fries. They're doing minute 45 fries. How come

01:56:40.820 they're selling more fries than us? You know? So like for the same principles should be applied to

01:56:46.100 nationalism. Not everything is like, here's how the military works because people might think we're

01:56:51.060 a paramilitary structure, but that's why I like talking about McDonald's instead or KFC because

01:56:55.940 because they're serious organizations and someone involved in politics should take themselves as

01:57:01.940 seriously as someone in the army or someone that works at McDonald's. And I don't mean the guy

01:57:06.260 pulling up the fries at McDonald's because he probably doesn't care about life, but

01:57:09.140 No, but the corporate structure, yeah, to make it tick. Yeah, yeah, exactly. People take their careers so

01:57:14.100 seriously and then they don't take politics seriously. And that's why the right thing is behind

01:57:18.100 even their personal lives. Right? Yeah. Look, I get you need the downtime and all that kind of stuff,

01:57:22.820 but it's like you put yourself all into this job and to keep, you know, your tie straight and,

01:57:27.300 you know, straight in the back, whatever for your task, whatever that you're paid for. But then you

01:57:30.580 just, you know, slob out at home and like, come on, show some discipline in everything you do.

01:57:34.500 You know what I mean? Take some pride. Take some pride in yourself. We got one here from

01:57:38.260 Handsome Truth. Good to see you, HD. He says, Hail Red Ice. Hail Thomas and the NSN and the boys. You guys are an

01:57:44.100 inspiration. Would love to have Thomas on to come on the show to help promote his gifts and go

01:57:48.180 free Joel Davis. Blood and honor, he says. There you go. Invite from HD right there for you.

01:57:52.980 Thanks, HD. And also thank you, Jeremy, before I didn't. Yeah, I'd love to come on the show.

01:58:01.060 I think I'm doing Mark Collette tomorrow. Okay, good. Yep. I heard that. Good stuff.

01:58:05.620 Yeah. And I can make some room Sunday, Sunday, Monday for HD for sure. Okay, cool. But yeah, it's,

01:58:12.180 it's, what was I going to say? Yeah, it's been a battle. That's for sure. Yeah. As it should be.

01:58:20.900 Well, it's been, it's been great watching it. It's been great watching the progress and everything

01:58:25.940 that's happened. And, you know, yeah, it sucks, obviously, you know, that, that it comes to this,

01:58:31.220 but hey, look, as we said, that's the nature of the game. We got to be stoic about these things.

01:58:35.620 We can't just break down and get all emotional about it. This is the, this is the turf that we're

01:58:39.780 on and it's, uh, it will be a continuous, uh, continuous battle, you know? Yeah. No doubt about

01:58:44.820 it. Well, I hope that, I hope that, uh, those that can still LARP, LARP harder for us because we're

01:58:51.700 not allowed to anymore. I just hope all my, all my LARP is out there. I just, you got to just double

01:58:58.740 down on the LARP. He's just going to do the best LARP. LARPing works. He who LARPs the best wins.

01:59:03.540 That's the rule. Uh, Aussie artists there again, Björn, Björn Half-Tur pulled 510 kilograms

01:59:09.860 deadlift to the other day, new world record. The Nordic strong wind fella. Yeah. I've seen some

01:59:14.740 of those. Yeah. He's, uh, he's incredible. All right, Tom. Uh, so obviously, uh, the legal battle

01:59:20.500 here, then how do you see this moving forward here before we wrap up? Obviously it's, as we said,

01:59:25.220 it's at 96,000 Aussie dollars right now. It just went up another 900 almost, uh, just while we were

01:59:31.540 talking here. Um, how do you see this moving forward? What's the next step with this? Are

01:59:35.620 you thinking of time? Obviously the law has to actually pass first, I would assume, but would

01:59:41.460 it have been, as soon as it passes, boom. We can start the process. We can start the process before,

01:59:46.580 because as I said, we still need to overturn. So I had a meeting with a legal team in New South

01:59:52.580 Wales about six months ago, and they've got constitutional lawyers on the payroll and

01:59:57.140 they're very sympathetic to the free speech angle. Um, maybe even a little bit more than

02:00:01.940 just a free speech angle, but, uh, you know, they got in contact with us. They really want to fight

02:00:08.660 the, um, the salute and swastika ban. Uh, but they want there to be like the way they want to go about

02:00:16.180 it is there should be a, a, a, a plaintiff, so to speak. That's the best way to go about it is their

02:00:21.700 theory. And, um, I said, okay, how do we get started with this? And they said, well, if you put 50

02:00:28.740 grand in the trust, we'll press the, press the big red button and something of this nature going to

02:00:32.500 the high court is usually around 200 grand, but you know, because we're sympathetic to this and we

02:00:37.860 want, we really want this to succeed, you know, we might be able to do this for a hundred. I was like,

02:00:43.860 fuck, there's a big variance, 50, 100, 200. These are big numbers. And I just said, we just don't

02:00:48.420 have that money at the moment. We're fighting all these other legal battles. Um, and like at some

02:00:53.460 point when it's an opportune moment, I'll do a fundraiser so we can press the big red button and

02:00:58.260 go to the high court with this. So it's called like, I think it's called special leave to the

02:01:02.100 high court. And you're basically putting in an appeal to basically test these laws against the

02:01:06.740 constitution. And so the high court judges in Canberra, which is like equivalent to the Supreme

02:01:11.540 court that you've got in the United States, they have to look over our argument and measure that

02:01:19.060 argument against, uh, the law, the legislation and against the constitution. And so does this

02:01:26.260 legislation breach because I've probably explained this on stream before, but I'll quickly explain it

02:01:32.500 again, because it's really important that people understand the exact process or close to the exact

02:01:36.420 process. The Australian constitution says that we have, we, that we are a democracy and that to

02:01:44.340 have a democracy, it needs to enable political communication, uh, basically political communication

02:01:50.500 or free, what you call in America, free speech and democracy are, uh, cannot be separated. They're not

02:01:58.260 two different things. You cannot have a democracy without political communication. And there's

02:02:02.820 thousands and thousands of pages of case law that you need to read to get all the kind of talking

02:02:08.260 points. But in summary, and I have read probably 15, 1600 pages of case law, but there's even more

02:02:15.860 than that. Um, because I had some time in prison to read over these things. Um, I had the judge print

02:02:21.380 them out for me. She was very nice or she had the clerk do it, but whatever. And, um, and I, I read it,

02:02:27.060 I read it myself. And basically, uh, what it says is to condense it all down is that, and this might

02:02:35.700 seem like really common sense stuff, but law is meant to be common sense, but you know, to the

02:02:42.260 fucking nth degree where there's, you know, an explanation and a justification for everything

02:02:47.140 and every concept. And when they say a word that then is another hundred words explaining what that

02:02:51.700 word means. Like if the word malicious is used in the law, then there's like, I had to read like

02:02:56.580 700 pages on just what the word definitions. And yeah, definitely like, it's crazy. Like there's a,

02:03:00.660 there's a dictionary definition, which might get you so far at the magistrates court, the local court.

02:03:05.300 But when you're dealing with things of a high court or a Supreme court nature,

02:03:08.340 legal definitions, endless, endless, endless case law on just one word or one interpretation of one word.

02:03:14.740 And, um, so what it means is that if people aren't allowed to talk to each other, then you can't have

02:03:24.340 a democratic process. That's, I just summarized thousands of pages for everyone. If people can't

02:03:29.780 talk to each other, if they can't share an opinion with each other, therefore, uh, representative

02:03:38.980 parliament can't exist because to get the correct representative in parliament, people have to be

02:03:48.260 able to talk to each other about what they think about a particular policy idea or representative or

02:03:54.420 situation in society. And then a politician has to be able to hear that through the hive mind of

02:04:00.740 democracy. And therefore the representative can then form his opinions and then vote on bills and blah,

02:04:05.860 blah, blah, blah. We have democracy. And so we have endless case law in Australia, uh, that states

02:04:14.020 that not only is it communication verbally, but communication is written. It is signs. It is symbols. It is

02:04:22.820 gestures. It is, uh, expressions. It is, um, things that are tasteless. It is things that are aggressive. It is

02:04:30.740 things that are angry. It is things that could even be driven by maliciousness. It is

02:04:35.540 things that are of all sorts of natures and that all of these things are defined as, uh,

02:04:43.140 communication. Uh, so the swastika or the Roman salute is a political communication and there is

02:04:49.540 no case law in this country that suggests at the, at the high court level, there's obviously all this

02:04:55.780 gay shit nonsense at magistrates level where they're like, Oh, your feelings got hurt. And therefore,

02:05:01.140 but there is no case law at the high court level that says that your political communication

02:05:07.940 hurts somebody else's feelings. And therefore it needs to be made illegal. Yeah. There's, there's at,

02:05:15.460 so they've passed legislation through parliament. That's actually contravenes what is already in

02:05:22.580 existence within the constitution. And if two things, so now you've got parliament legislation

02:05:29.220 and you've got prior case law through the court. So, you know, democracy is a matrix of power or a

02:05:36.020 republic like the United States is a matrix of power. It's not just the democratic nature of the

02:05:40.740 parliament, but also it's the court's interpretation of the constitution, which is the founding of the

02:05:46.820 nation. Uh, it's the constitution, it's the, what constitutes the, the system of government. And so

02:05:54.900 when two things cannot coincide, you have to then take it to the high court and say, well, hang on a

02:06:01.300 minute, this legislation, uh, or these criminal charges are actually in breach of a higher law.

02:06:08.020 And the constitution is a higher law than a bill that's put through parliament by the labor party.

02:06:17.540 So, so basically one has to fold, either the constitution has to be changed. So there's a

02:06:22.660 chance we lose. And what that looks like is they change the constitution and they say,

02:06:28.100 you don't have the right to political communication. Uh, you only have the right to political communication

02:06:33.540 that doesn't hurt Jewish people's feelings. Yeah. And they would have to, and they would

02:06:38.020 word it differently than that, but they would have to, they would have to change the constitution to say

02:06:42.420 that, um, you know, there are forms of political communication that are unacceptable, um, and shouldn't

02:06:48.660 be allowed. And that's not what it currently says. Um, it says the opposite. Uh, the, a lot of the

02:06:55.140 judgments were made by old white men and they don't talk like this. They don't say, oh, well, you know,

02:07:00.820 that can't be allowed that what they say is the opposite. They say, you know, regardless of whether

02:07:05.140 you're upset by something or the fact that you're upset by it actually improves democracy.

02:07:10.100 So the previous legislation, sorry, not legislation, the previous constitutional

02:07:14.100 case law for free speech in Australia is that if you're upset by this, then good, that helps democracy

02:07:24.660 because now you're going to engage in democracy more. So we need to have people be upset in order to

02:07:29.700 have a democracy. Yeah. I mean, we should know it is obvious here. And many people have reiterated,

02:07:35.940 but since we didn't do it, let's do it. We're also talking about emotions here. Hate is a human

02:07:42.020 emotion that we all feel. And, and legally they try to kind of skirt around. Well, it isn't about

02:07:46.420 personal anger. I just looked it up real quick. It's about bias and prejudice or whatever, but

02:07:51.220 prejudice is same thing there. It's emotions. Bias is, is many different reasons for why you

02:07:56.820 feel something, right? It is legislation of human emotion that that's, that's at the core of this,

02:08:03.380 you know, argument that they're driving here as well. What, what's, what's next up on the chopping

02:08:07.540 block if a human emotion is off limits, you know what I mean? Well, and it's not just anyone's human

02:08:11.940 emotion. It's white people. Right. Correct. So you can be, if you're a Muslim and you hate Jews,

02:08:17.540 that is legal. You're allowed to, but if you're a white person and you hate Jews or you hate brown people,

02:08:23.860 that is illegal or you hate gay. Well, they haven't, I don't think they've put LGBT stuff in the bill,

02:08:28.500 but that's why the greens haven't agreed to it yet. They want, they want, uh, more, uh, protections

02:08:33.860 for LGBT people. So they want to make it like, they want to make drag queen story hour protests illegal

02:08:38.500 the way that like the abortion clinic protests in the U S and the UK are illegal. They want to do that.

02:08:44.980 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thomas, any closing, uh, any closing thoughts here?

02:08:53.780 Well, while it's still legal, hail Hitler.

02:08:57.300 Come on, let's do them full screen. Come on, let's set it again.

02:08:59.860 All right. While it's still legal, hail Hitler.

02:09:04.660 That's it. That's your clip right there. Yeah. There you go. Uh, well, hail Thomas Sewell, uh, and

02:09:09.620 hail white Australia and everything you've done. We appreciate you. We're going to stay in touch and,

02:09:14.580 uh, you know, we're going to have you back on the show here, obviously keep talking,

02:09:16.980 but take a little time, you know, finish the, um, finish the chicken.

02:09:20.660 My last soundbite. Yeah.

02:09:22.660 Finish the chicken coop. The mobile chicken coop. Um, I was doing the fence today.

02:09:26.260 Oh, the fence. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I'm going to get,

02:09:29.220 I'm going to get some goats and maybe a piggy, but, um,

02:09:31.620 Get some chickens. You don't have to go out and get eggs as you talked about.

02:09:34.180 Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm going to get a Jersey cow as well. I'm going to get a Jersey cow,

02:09:37.540 a couple of goats, a couple of chicken. I'm going to probably 50 chickens. We eat a lot of eggs.

02:09:41.620 Nice. But, uh, what I was saying was,

02:09:43.540 uh, the final soundbite is you can't stop an idea whose time has come.

02:09:48.660 And for me, uh, you can ban an organization. Sure. But you can't ban a feeling that's inside

02:09:57.540 the hearts of so many Australians and so many white people around the world. And no matter what,

02:10:04.260 uh, politicians do with legislation, we're fighting this at a level beyond legislation,

02:10:12.900 beyond laws, beyond politics. We're fighting this at a spiritual level and we are going to survive,

02:10:20.980 uh, these, uh, tyrannical and draconian laws. And we are going to, uh, as a movement globally

02:10:30.340 succeed in our mission to secure an existence for our people and a future for white children.

02:10:34.820 So nothing, nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. I want to reiterate that to everyone,

02:10:40.020 that this is not a black pill moment. This is a moment for people to realize that we are, uh,

02:10:46.500 you know, an evolving, an evolving political force across the world.

02:10:52.100 And it's beyond leaders. It's beyond organizations. Um, it's, it's a feeling,

02:10:58.980 it's a feeling of national, it's a spirit, our, our, it's our blood memory, our folk soul coming to life.

02:11:05.620 Uh, and it will, and it will find a way it will find different ways of both, both expressing itself,

02:11:11.540 but also taking us where we need to be in order to, uh, to, to take back our countries and to restore order

02:11:18.260 and, um, and do what's right. This is a, this is a moral battle, a moral victory.

02:11:22.740 Yeah. Yeah. Um, thanks for having me on.

02:11:25.540 Yeah, no, it's awesome. I want to plug it again here, obviously, before we let you go, Thomas,

02:11:29.140 um, help Thomas out in his legal endeavors, give send go.com slash free speech, Australia.

02:11:36.340 It's almost at a hundred thousand. So goal that you set is almost a reach. When did you set up again?

02:11:42.020 You said 20, uh, about 28 hours ago.

02:11:45.220 Nice. Well done, sir. Well done.

02:11:47.700 Yeah. All right, Thomas, thank you again for your time and for everything you have been doing

02:11:52.260 and that you're going to do. How about that?

02:11:55.700 Blood and honor. Blood and honor. See you later. All right. Take care. Bye.

02:11:59.300 All right, guys, that's Thomas Sewell. So, um, many thanks to him, everything he's doing,

02:12:03.940 the inspiration that it's, uh, been to so many as well. Uh, we appreciate him and we appreciate

02:12:08.660 all the lads down under for what they're doing. Uh, I'm going to take one here chat before we wrap up.

02:12:13.460 Oh, we actually had, uh, one here, Albert, huge donor again from Albert.

02:12:16.980 Thank you so much, Albert. Good to see you. He says, hi, hi, Henrik. Just wanted to send some

02:12:20.580 extra support today. Well, we appreciate it tremendously. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it as

02:12:24.500 always, Albert. Excellent show today. Your coverage on the Minneapolis craziness is spot on.

02:12:29.700 I can confirm, we talked about this earlier, that the Minneapolis airport is full of Somalis

02:12:35.460 as we connected through, uh, there every time we fly out west. I would say about 70 to 75% of all

02:12:41.220 the workers everywhere. Gates, stores, restaurants, etc. are Somalis. I remember that too. I did fly

02:12:46.340 through there. Uh, it's outrageous. I'll catch the show tomorrow. Take care. All the best. Thank you,

02:12:49.940 Albert, so much. We had one here from Northern Glitches as well. Just, uh, I just wanted to say,

02:12:55.300 I appreciate everything you guys do. Tom, you're an inspiration. And Henrik, you and your wife

02:12:59.060 really are the light in the darkness. Thank you. Well, that's very, very, uh, nice and kind of,

02:13:03.460 yeah, we are, uh, we're honored to be, uh, in this situation and, uh, in this spot and, uh, be a voice

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Red Ice TV - January 16, 2026

White Australia Disbands After New ＂Hate Groups＂ Laws with Thomas Sewell

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