Red Ice TV - Whitey On The Moon, 2024 Might Get A Bit Rocky - Paul Kersey

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00:01:31.780 So kudos to you and your team and your wife.

00:01:33.640 Well, thank you, Paul.

00:01:34.520 Very nice of you.

00:01:35.420 Of course, last time Paul was on, we did talk about his book, Whitey on the Moon.

00:01:41.500 Maybe we spoke about Black Mecca down to, I don't know.

00:01:44.500 But I think we did more focus on Whitey on the Moon, subtitled Race, Politics, and the

00:01:48.580 Death of the U.S. Space Program.

00:01:50.960 And this was kind of looking at this from like 1958 to 1972.

00:01:55.100 Now, this was originally published in 2016, and that's when we had you on the first time.

00:01:59.780 It had fallen out of print, and then Anthelope Hill has rolled around, right?

00:02:04.240 And I think they were like set up in 2019, 20, something like that, I think, or started, created.

00:02:10.860 And they picked it up, and they have now republished that together with Black Mecca down, right? 0.95

00:02:16.020 So tell us about that a little bit.

00:02:17.600 Yeah.

00:02:17.860 Well, actually, it kind of came out of nowhere last year.

00:02:20.040 Well, go back to 2020.

00:02:21.300 So many crazy things happened in 2020.

00:02:25.500 My goodness.

00:02:26.760 I, you know, obviously, with, you know, the start of the year, the economy is rocking and

00:02:31.320 rolling.

00:02:32.000 The world looks like a completely different place.

00:02:35.160 And then all of a sudden, you start to hear rumors.

00:02:37.440 I had actually heard rumors about what was happening in China, right before Christmas, because

00:02:42.160 I was at a funeral, unfortunately.

00:02:43.860 And one of my buddies, he actually married a Chinese girl, and they'd had kids.

00:02:47.840 And her family was in to see the kids, the two twins, and they were not allowed back.

00:02:54.080 I was like, hey, hey, bud, when are your in-laws leaving?

00:02:57.400 And he goes, they can't go back to their province.

00:02:59.540 It's shut down.

00:03:00.560 So I started researching COVID and stuff.

00:03:02.500 And it's so weird to think it's only, it's going to be, what, four years, I guess, here

00:03:06.440 in a couple of weeks that we really started to hear rumors of something.

00:03:11.120 But, you know, that year was so crazy, 2020, because I had built up some pretty big Facebook

00:03:16.540 pages over the years.

00:03:18.200 And we got nuked.

00:03:19.620 A bunch of Facebook pages that I was part of got nuked, also including VDare and UNS.com.

00:03:26.020 VDare, it was an international story.

00:03:28.200 You can actually go back and look.

00:03:29.180 They were accused of election interference and whatnot.

00:03:32.560 And so that was actually pretty cataclysmic to lose that access because, you know, the UNS

00:03:39.720 page wasn't that big, but it was very, it was growing aggressively, as was VDare and

00:03:44.700 as were a number of the pages I did.

00:03:46.280 And it was so fascinating to think that in, I guess, April, they were talking about election

00:03:52.100 interference as a reason to ban people from Facebook at that point.

00:03:56.320 And, of course, the election is not until November of that year.

00:03:59.500 But then, of course, I guess it was June.

00:04:02.600 Jared Taylor and I were getting ready to do a podcast for American Renaissance.

00:04:05.740 And I go, hey, I think I just, I think all our books just got taken down on Amazon.

00:04:10.220 So, yeah, Amazon definitely got rid of all the books.

00:04:14.220 Again, the Kersey books were all self-published.

00:04:17.480 I think there were 14 or 15.

00:04:19.580 And like five of them really sold well.

00:04:22.860 Five of them, five of them were actually pretty crazy.

00:04:25.340 And one of those was Whitey on the Moon. 0.99

00:04:27.380 And when Antelope Hill came back and they asked about it, they said, well, what happened

00:04:31.260 to your stuff?

00:04:31.740 It's not available anymore.

00:04:32.600 I'm like, hey, it is.

00:04:34.220 Do you want it?

00:04:34.680 And they jumped at it.

00:04:36.700 And that's a new cover there.

00:04:38.260 Yeah, that's a new cover for sure.

00:04:39.460 Yeah, they took a year to do it.

00:04:42.660 We actually, they bought the rights to the Paul Kersey catalog back in November of 2022.

00:04:51.120 And I had heard nothing but wonderful things about that organization.

00:04:56.540 And they took a year to edit and to get everything set.

00:05:01.460 And it's, I'm actually looking at a copy here that I just got from Amazon.

00:05:04.160 And it looks really good.

00:05:05.840 And I'm honored to have this book back in print.

00:05:09.400 And I think the whole goal is just, again, yes, you can be deplatformed. 0.98

00:05:15.700 It sucks.

00:05:16.400 I know you, I know all you guys have faced over the years in terms of debanking, deplatforming,

00:05:22.540 losing access to everything.

00:05:25.040 Your donors, just doxing, everything that happens.

00:05:28.500 And the thing to tell your audience, just don't get frustrated.

00:05:31.800 Just keep moving forward.

00:05:32.700 You know, that's all you can do.

00:05:34.220 You can't look back.

00:05:35.340 You can't be like, oh, I wish I could go back and change this, change that.

00:05:38.740 You don't waste that time.

00:05:40.420 No, no.

00:05:41.400 You've got to just keep moving forward.

00:05:42.660 And so that's why looking at this volume that I have, it's like, this is really cool.

00:05:46.580 Because I don't really remember writing it.

00:05:49.200 I was kind of in this, I just started researching everything that was going on.

00:05:53.440 And I think it was inspired by Interstellar that came out back in 2011.

00:05:58.280 And there was that great line about, hey, you know, what are we now?

00:06:01.600 We're not trying to conquer anything.

00:06:03.080 We're not trying to push the envelope.

00:06:05.520 You know, that's, you know, what are we?

00:06:07.200 And the whole concept in the movie is, you know, at the end of the day, what exactly is Western Man?

00:06:13.180 And without Christopher Nolan saying that.

00:06:15.560 So I'm excited that that book's out, man.

00:06:16.940 It's exciting.

00:06:18.680 Yeah, definitely.

00:06:19.340 Yeah, that was a great film, by the way.

00:06:20.440 I really enjoy that, you know.

00:06:23.040 Not sure about the theoretics of it.

00:06:24.600 But the idea, just the idea, just that there's something.

00:06:27.020 It's got to be something left, right?

00:06:28.640 I mean, is there any real estate left?

00:06:31.080 Maybe if, like, the climate improves with Greenland parts of Greenland.

00:06:34.520 But it's, like, everything explored almost, you know what I mean?

00:06:37.240 It's, like, what's our next mission?

00:06:39.620 It has to be space, right?

00:06:43.480 What else is there?

00:06:44.640 Maybe the deep oceans, maybe?

00:06:46.860 That's pretty cool, too.

00:06:47.900 So I'm not discounting that.

00:06:48.880 Of course, there's still things to discover on this planet.

00:06:51.380 But, like, you know, getting out there.

00:06:53.580 Wasn't you who had a line somewhere?

00:06:54.960 I saw that.

00:06:55.980 It was one of your tweets, right?

00:06:57.420 You said something like, this is when we've won.

00:06:59.780 We've already conquered Mars.

00:07:01.320 Or, like, been to Mars.

00:07:02.540 We've set a basis there or something like that.

00:07:04.520 Oh, it's basically a look at, you know, you always think about the world.

00:07:08.080 And if other things had happened, like one of the things I, obviously, I just said, don't

00:07:12.960 think about the past.

00:07:13.740 Don't worry about that too much.

00:07:15.380 But it is crazy to think that, you know, in our lifetime, Pat Buchanan won a couple states

00:07:22.260 when he was running for the nomination.

00:07:23.700 And it's always fun to think, what if he had actually been allowed to run and win and been

00:07:30.040 the nominee in 92?

00:07:31.700 And, you know, could he have beaten Clinton if Perot had pulled out?

00:07:36.000 And you just wanted these little things, these little great what-ifs in history.

00:07:39.680 And basically, I think why I said that about Mars, what was that, and again, I'm not endorsing

00:07:45.620 any of these shows, but The Man in High Castle is a book, I believe, by Philip K.

00:07:50.220 Is it Philip Dick?

00:07:51.280 Yeah, Philip K.

00:07:52.100 Okay.

00:07:52.480 Yep.

00:07:52.660 So, in the novel, or whatever you want to call it, I think the Nazis have already colonized 0.84

00:08:00.640 Venus, and they've gone to...

00:08:03.200 Venus of all places.

00:08:04.520 Nice.

00:08:04.820 Okay.

00:08:04.980 Venus, yeah.

00:08:05.580 They go to Venus.

00:08:06.420 You know what's interesting?

00:08:07.620 I did not know this.

00:08:08.560 Why am I even bringing this up?

00:08:09.980 Is the Soviets actually successfully landed some form of a rover back in the 80s, early 80s,

00:08:17.420 on Venus.

00:08:18.520 And we've never actually even done that in the United States.

00:08:20.860 I don't believe so.

00:08:21.880 How long did that survive?

00:08:22.900 Like a few minutes or something, right?

00:08:24.220 Isn't it some boiling gases?

00:08:28.000 It is.

00:08:28.460 But you just, again, when you think about the...

00:08:31.740 Allegedly.

00:08:32.640 Who knows, right?

00:08:33.940 Yeah.

00:08:34.320 Well, no.

00:08:34.740 I'm not...

00:08:35.100 Yeah.

00:08:36.180 What is this?

00:08:37.100 An Alex Jones space with Elon Musk?

00:08:39.340 Yeah, exactly.

00:08:40.040 Yes, it is.

00:08:40.920 Oh, God.

00:08:41.340 No, no.

00:08:41.900 Look, look.

00:08:43.040 Yeah, you know, who's Vox today's guy who says we didn't go to the moon?

00:08:47.420 Owen Benjamin?

00:08:48.700 Owen Benjamin.

00:08:49.380 Yeah.

00:08:49.640 Yeah.

00:08:50.580 Yeah.

00:08:50.980 I like that when they dropped that in Interstellar.

00:08:54.700 Remember that scene?

00:08:55.560 When they actually say the school curriculum started saying, oh, it was just a PR campaign

00:08:59.260 to like beat the Soviets who actually never went there.

00:09:01.140 And they started to teach that in the history books to demoralize basically the kids.

00:09:04.680 That's right.

00:09:04.940 Yep. 0.94

00:09:05.120 Yeah, the black principal, actually. 0.90

00:09:07.500 Yeah, the black principal and the white teacher. 0.91

00:09:09.580 No, it's a great scene.

00:09:10.720 But no, I...

00:09:11.800 God, so many things to talk about.

00:09:14.520 But I just think that the whole idea behind even why I wrote Whitey on the Moon, it's because

00:09:20.400 of...

00:09:21.540 There was a day when I was a lot...

00:09:23.220 My God, I was probably in elementary school.

00:09:26.480 And I remember we were learning about flight for some reason.

00:09:30.200 And we were learning about how in December 17th, I think it was the date, 1903, the Wright

00:09:36.760 brothers flew for the first time in human history at Kitty Hawk.

00:09:39.360 And then I remember we were learning the date.

00:09:43.200 Oh, we were getting ready to go to Huntsville to the Space Center there as fifth graders.

00:09:48.840 That's one of the cool things where I'm from.

00:09:50.960 All the fifth grade classes throughout the state got to go to Huntsville to go see the

00:09:54.660 Space Center.

00:09:55.700 And I'm looking at the date for when we landed on the Moon.

00:09:58.580 And I just kept thinking back, wait a second.

00:10:01.120 It was less than 65 years that we first flew.

00:10:05.400 First got off the ground in North Carolina.

00:10:09.060 And then you've got these three white guys being hurtled out of Earth's atmosphere on 0.97

00:10:14.660 this amazing rocket that was designed by, let's face it, we basically got lucky with

00:10:21.120 Project Paperclip.

00:10:22.540 And we got the German scientist without von Braun and his amazing team.

00:10:28.220 It would not have happened.

00:10:29.540 No, no, no.

00:10:30.360 And I think that's one of the reasons why we've lost the odd kind of comments later

00:10:36.020 from NASA. 0.99

00:10:36.620 Like, we've lost the ability to, you know, figure that shit out or whatnot. 0.99

00:10:41.040 And that could very well be true, right? 0.99

00:10:42.680 That they've actually, like, they just got degraded of sorts, right?

00:10:45.960 And eventually they've just, like, they haven't been able to get back.

00:10:49.200 And now, because of NASA, it's all diversity hires. 0.98

00:10:52.520 They're pushed to the hidden figures bullshit.

00:10:54.660 Like, all these things have happened since then, right? 0.94

00:10:56.820 Yeah, I mean, the hidden figures stuff was, I actually got attacked in the New York Times

00:11:01.220 by one of the actresses.

00:11:03.280 Because VDare was one of the few places that was questioning that whole nonsense back when

00:11:09.200 it came out.

00:11:09.820 And I wrote three or four articles that got a lot of, again, this is when search engines

00:11:14.500 actually allowed you to find stuff.

00:11:15.920 And you could interact with actresses and actors.

00:11:19.500 This was right before, I guess, oh, who's that, who's the guy from Breitbart?

00:11:28.100 Why am I blanking on his name?

00:11:29.360 Who was so big back in 2016?

00:11:32.120 Oh, the main guy who outset it up?

00:11:34.980 No, who's...

00:11:35.660 Before he died?

00:11:36.040 No, the guy who was partners with Nick Fuentes and...

00:11:39.780 Oh, Milo?

00:11:41.260 Milo, Milo, Milo Inesop.

00:11:43.340 Yiannopoulos, yeah.

00:11:44.540 Yeah, he would basically, if you remember, he got kicked off Twitter because they launched

00:11:48.420 that hilarious attack on the Ghostbusters, the black actress in Ghostbusters. 1.00

00:11:55.360 That's right, yeah.

00:11:56.340 And I used to interact at this time back in 2015, 2016, 2017.

00:12:01.360 I would always interact with actors and actresses.

00:12:06.520 And I'd be like, hey, Michael B. Jordan, aren't you embarrassed that you're playing, you know,

00:12:10.260 Johnny Storm and a white actor, a white character that was created by, you know, white guys in

00:12:16.040 the Fantastic Four?

00:12:17.300 Aren't you glad that...

00:12:18.380 Aren't you embarrassed that this is like the biggest comic book bomb of all time?

00:12:21.320 And it was a lot of fun to interact with these guys because they get pissed they'd interact

00:12:24.680 with you.

00:12:25.380 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:27.180 But yeah, it's crazy, the hidden figure stuff.

00:12:30.220 But I actually agree with you.

00:12:31.600 I think that NASA changed their way in the 72.

00:12:35.460 The Apollo program ended under Nixon, tragically, and they decided to do the space shuttle because

00:12:41.380 it was cheaper instead of building, unfortunately, which is what von Braun wanted to do, build some

00:12:47.100 sort of permanent space station where you could construct the apparatuses in space as opposed

00:12:53.880 to the hardest part is getting out of the Earth's atmosphere.

00:12:57.020 And there were, you know, when he was in prison as a Nazi prisoner, I think he was in Texas.

00:13:04.580 He actually wrote a book about the mathematics to get to Mars.

00:13:09.060 Just he wrote it.

00:13:09.880 And you can find it on Amazon.

00:13:11.140 It's fantastic.

00:13:12.000 I've read it.

00:13:12.640 And it's like, God, like these guys had such hopes and dreams for the future.

00:13:17.800 And, you know, just so your audience knows, one of the main people who helped popularize

00:13:23.500 space exploration, even before NASA was created, was Walt Disney.

00:13:27.960 He used his program on ABC and they did a number of amazing interviews with von Braun, which

00:13:37.220 brought him to international national fame here in the country and very much worth trying

00:13:42.220 to find.

00:13:42.820 I believe the program it's called you get the DVD Tomorrowland, not the movie with George

00:13:47.620 Clooney, but it's it's just these awesome, awesome segments and interviews because Walt

00:13:53.060 Disney was fascinated by this stuff.

00:13:54.520 He wanted he had that same spirit that has driven so many of our of our people that unfortunately

00:14:00.900 their statues are falling seemingly daily at this point.

00:14:05.380 Yeah, from from Columbus on.

00:14:07.020 But, you know, Walt Disney, Walt Disney, in a lot of ways, is the man who was responsible

00:14:11.980 for for von Braun getting his position within NASA.

00:14:15.920 And I actually fun story for you a couple of years ago, his home, well, von Braun's home

00:14:22.360 in Huntsville went up for sale and I was going to try and buy it and make it a national registered

00:14:27.720 place because I figured I could rent it out at Airbnb and there'd be people from around

00:14:32.440 the world.

00:14:32.800 Oh, yeah.

00:14:33.100 Yeah, I think so.

00:14:34.540 For sure.

00:14:34.720 Von Braun's house.

00:14:35.620 And it would basically become like a museum of sorts.

00:14:38.820 And you know what, who, you know, I'm not going to downplay anything that happened in World

00:14:45.660 War Two and whatnot.

00:14:46.520 But I mean, again, he had he gone, had the Russians got him, they would have they would 0.99

00:14:52.820 have done everything they could to have utilized him and all of his associates.

00:14:56.320 Yeah.

00:14:56.900 Intelligence.

00:14:57.300 And to this day in Huntsville, the the Coliseum is named the Wernher von Braun Coliseum, which

00:15:03.860 I'm surprised they haven't forced that to be retconned in nature.

00:15:06.440 Yeah, I'm sure they're just not.

00:15:08.260 It's just further down the list, I guess, do things to get around to.

00:15:12.200 Well, there is that, you know, speaking of that, we could pivot towards this now is a

00:15:16.020 good point.

00:15:16.520 There is an overlap here, right?

00:15:17.980 Because, of course, Elon, Elon Musk and, you know, his SpaceX and all that German engineer 1.00

00:15:21.920 to talk about von Braun here in New York Post predicted man named Elon would conquer Mars

00:15:26.820 in a 1952 novel.

00:15:28.760 Have you heard about this?

00:15:30.600 No, I haven't.

00:15:31.580 But that's such a cool that's such a cool picture of von Braun right there.

00:15:36.680 I didn't know that I didn't know that he actually wrote that.

00:15:39.000 That's one of the coolest.

00:15:40.720 That's one of the coolest stories imaginable, because I mean, again, that, ladies and gentlemen,

00:15:45.740 as you're watching this and listening to us talk, that is the man who should have been

00:15:50.240 the head of NASA.

00:15:51.300 But, of course, under Kennedy and then under Nixon, there was such pushback by.

00:15:57.140 Certain segments of Washington don't need to go into it, who basically said that we can't

00:16:03.660 let a former Nazi be in charge of NASA. 0.95

00:16:05.840 Right.

00:16:06.300 Yeah.

00:16:06.880 Which is one of the saddest things, because, again, they had plans to go to Mars as the

00:16:13.660 Apollo program is going on.

00:16:14.940 They had plans in place for the next chapter of the space program.

00:16:21.280 And it's again, it all coincides with the fact that, you know, if you go back to 69 to

00:16:28.700 July 20th.

00:16:31.100 I'm sorry, it was July 15th or 16th of 1969, when the space, when the Apollo 11 was actually

00:16:39.320 launched.

00:16:40.240 You know, you had Martin Luther King Jr.'s, the guy who took over his hustle.

00:16:46.860 He was down there protesting because there weren't enough, there weren't enough blacks 0.99

00:16:51.880 in NASA.

00:16:52.780 And more importantly, all that money should be going to fund, to fund blacks and to stop, 1.00

00:17:00.400 to alleviate hunger problems and to fix problems throughout the inner city.

00:17:06.020 Because if you remember, you know, one of the just crowning achievements of mankind history

00:17:10.820 of mankind's history is the launch of that day.

00:17:14.160 And that's coming at the very end of a tumultuous decade.

00:17:17.440 I was born in the mid 80s.

00:17:19.020 So obviously, no, I have no recollection of what the 60s would have been like, except for

00:17:22.900 reading about it.

00:17:23.600 And you just have race riots destroying so many of our major cities and just the unprecedented,

00:17:31.600 unprecedented outbreak and violence and forcing white people to.

00:17:36.020 Vacate all these cities that up until the Great Migration, there were very, very, very 0.93

00:17:41.180 few blacks in Chicago and Detroit and Rochester and Buffalo and Gary, Indiana and all these

00:17:48.980 places.

00:17:49.360 And now at this point, as, you know, these three, as what was it, Buzz Aldrin, Michael

00:17:54.780 Collins and Neil Armstrong are getting ready to go take off on this amazing flight to the

00:18:01.140 moon, you've got black people protesting. 0.51

00:18:03.740 And there's that famous photo that I found in Jet Magazine of the very large, obese black 1.00

00:18:11.900 woman with her, with her, with her black toddler in a stroller.

00:18:16.280 And they've got like a sign that says like billions for, for space pennies for the, for the

00:18:22.440 hunger, the hungry.

00:18:23.720 I don't know if you've ever seen that.

00:18:24.700 It's, it's an amazing photo.

00:18:25.940 And it's always on Twitter now.

00:18:28.080 And I actually, I found that in a Jet Magazine that I ordered off of eBay back in like 2014

00:18:34.380 when I was researching.

00:18:35.600 There it is right there.

00:18:36.320 There it is right there.

00:18:37.100 It's one of the funniest things.

00:18:39.020 Yeah.

00:18:39.160 I found that that, that, that, that is legitimately, um, that is the, I think I used a, uh, an iPhone

00:18:47.440 or something to take a picture of the Jet Magazine.

00:18:49.480 And so that is the, that's what I found years ago.

00:18:52.740 And it's, it's become a force of its own.

00:18:54.680 And one of the things I will say is I hope one day Elon Musk tweets that out.

00:18:59.280 Um, so just to be like, Hey, Elon, you know, why is it that, um, why is it that SpaceX had

00:19:05.980 to step in when NASA couldn't, uh, you know, before SpaceX started to send up all the stuff

00:19:11.760 we were hitching rides, uh, from the Russians.

00:19:14.400 With Russians. 0.99

00:19:14.840 Yeah.

00:19:15.200 That's right.

00:19:15.600 Yeah.

00:19:15.760 That's how we use rockets and all that.

00:19:17.020 Yep.

00:19:17.620 Yeah.

00:19:17.900 That's how our, that's how our astronauts got to the, uh, international space station.

00:19:22.620 And, um, now of course, Elon, I believe they've had a couple of tests and thank God he's so

00:19:28.040 far ahead of, uh, Jeff Bezos is, um, is it blue?

00:19:32.400 Blue?

00:19:32.820 I think it is.

00:19:33.400 Yeah.

00:19:33.780 Something blue origin.

00:19:34.840 Is it blue origin or blue ocean?

00:19:36.240 I think it's blue origin.

00:19:37.800 Yeah.

00:19:37.920 I think you're right.

00:19:38.340 Yeah.

00:19:38.780 Yeah.

00:19:39.240 And, um, so SpaceX is, SpaceX is inspiring.

00:19:42.940 And, um, it's, uh, they're doing some new cool stuff with like being able to reuse them

00:19:49.620 and the relanding stuff.

00:19:50.960 I mean, that's, it's, it's impressive.

00:19:52.420 I mean, that's like an, it's almost like a fifties versions of how you've seen those

00:19:56.520 rockets that kind of descend down a hole.

00:19:59.020 Like that's what they're doing.

00:20:00.180 Crazy.

00:20:00.620 Yeah, I'll tell you, um, uh, another fun thing is if you remember the movie Gattaca,

00:20:09.240 which I, I, there are parts of that movie that I really like a lot.

00:20:12.040 It's about a future society where, you know, children are no longer conceived.

00:20:17.460 They're basically, um, you take, you take the egg from the female, um, and, and the partner 0.97

00:20:24.080 and they are, you know, test tube the best, the best, it, it, it, it's a movie that attacks

00:20:29.080 eugenics, you know, at the same time, it's a eugenic society.

00:20:32.540 Um, it's, uh, a movie with Uma Thurman and, uh, Ethan Hawke.

00:20:36.540 And in that movie, um, there is this, um, space program that there's a, there's a company

00:20:43.700 that Ethan Hawke's character wants to work for, but he doesn't have the right genetic makeup.

00:20:48.940 So he steals someone's genetics, um, Jude Law's genetics, uh, pretends to be him.

00:20:54.420 And the whole purpose of this is this company is basically launching rockets, I believe like

00:21:00.540 four per day.

00:21:01.660 And if you actually look at where we are now with Elon Musk, it is actually pretty awesome

00:21:05.420 because he is constantly launching, uh, rockets up and, um, you know, he's, he's single-handedly

00:21:12.400 trying to, um, keep alive that, that, that spirit that, um, he's yet to come out and say

00:21:21.040 who's keeping us from truly embracing that spirit, but it is becoming obvious that he knows a lot

00:21:27.780 more than he's ever let on. And then, you know, being a South African and, and being in Silicon

00:21:33.840 Valley and all the things he talks about when it comes to having babies and, and one of his,

00:21:39.420 uh, in one of the books that came out about a decade ago, he talked about idiocracy and how

00:21:44.000 that was one of his favorite films because he said that the wrong people were having too many kids

00:21:48.280 and it was the duty of, um, of, of the smartest to have as many babies as possible.

00:21:54.520 The only thing with idiocracy, I wish they had more diversity in that one. It's way too,

00:21:58.340 way too wide. Otherwise it's as good.

00:22:00.780 You know, but the thing is it, it made an impact on someone like Elon Musk.

00:22:04.400 Yeah. Yeah. He has, he has what? Nine, 10 kids?

00:22:06.820 11. I actually looked it up yesterday because I heard it in that little clip that was going around

00:22:10.720 with, I, I'm not a big fan of Andrew Tate, but be that as it may, right? It was Tate and Vivek was

00:22:16.200 in the call. Alex Jones was there. Who else am I forgetting? Uh, yeah. And they were talking about

00:22:21.280 kids. Yeah. I looked it up. So it's like, has 11? That's crazy.

00:22:24.420 Yeah. Benny Johnson was in that chair. That, that was embarrassing. Uh, you know,

00:22:28.340 the fact that they're dealing with Andrew Tate, a guy who's, you know, uh, someone who doesn't,

00:22:32.960 you know, Amaloto who's talking about, you know, converting to Islam and that's the way

00:22:37.160 pimping out European women on the, on the webs, right? No, it's disgusting. It's disgusting. 0.98

00:22:42.380 He's been embraced by Tucker. And now, I mean, he's, uh, uh, yeah. Uh, and, and in a lot of ways, 0.79

00:22:49.580 I think Alex Jones is taking too much energy. Alex, of course, before he was banned was saying amazing

00:22:55.680 things about immigration in South Africa, he had completely gone away from conspiracy stuff to

00:23:01.980 talking about the core issues that mattered. I mean, I will never forget when I was, um, I was

00:23:07.240 traveling to, I was down in Panama city in August of 2018 and Trump started to tweet out segments from

00:23:14.500 Tucker Carlson show about how white people were being treated in South Africa. And just like, man,

00:23:20.020 this is really great. This is the stuff that Tucker, that, uh, Alex Jones was talking about too. And

00:23:24.480 here we are now, you know, I had toiled in a, in a conservative world for a while trying to bring

00:23:29.120 all this stuff to the forefront and was successful at it, but not to the level that, you know, when

00:23:34.020 finally Trump is bringing it about, but my hope is that Alex Jones doesn't try and just talk about

00:23:39.380 humanity and all this nonsense and color, colorblindness. He had, yeah. He always pivots

00:23:45.080 towards that though. Some in some way they're trying to divide us. And it was like, no, they're actually

00:23:49.080 trying to unify everybody. I mean, they, they hate white and what are some of us out of the picture.

00:23:52.960 That's true. But at the same time, they'd, they'd love for us to all mix out in this multicultural,

00:23:58.700 uh, you know, cesspool of nothingness. That's what they want. That's the messaging from up top

00:24:03.880 all the time. Right. I know a lot of Alex Jones's people. They're phenomenal guys. Dan Lyman.

00:24:09.040 Dan Lyman is great. Yeah. Dan Lyman is a very, he's a very good friend. We text all the time.

00:24:13.880 Yep. Talk and talk about who can drink, uh, more raw eggs.

00:24:16.960 Who's, uh, schlunking. Who's, who's better. I, I hate, by the way, I hate that term.

00:24:21.740 It's called pulling a Rocky, you know, uh, people know about it from, from the 76 Rocky film. And,

00:24:27.560 uh, um, and, uh, yeah, we joke about pickleball and stuff, but, um, he's a good dude. Uh, Dan is

00:24:36.080 amazing. And, uh, info wars is poised to really do great things. And it's the pressure on Elon must

00:24:42.540 be just so great. Still though, people like Jared Taylor, uh, have never been brought back on.

00:24:47.720 I believe, I believe that's due to the lawsuit, um, that, uh, that, that AR when they were knocked

00:24:53.440 off, uh, he actually did sue in California, the new century foundation. And, uh, so both AR and

00:25:00.020 Jared's personal account have been gone. Um, I mean, of course, Jared and I, we did a, um, you know,

00:25:05.320 he had his amazing YouTube channel. Like you did, you guys built up an amazing platform on YouTube.

00:25:09.340 I don't remember what year you guys were. 2019.

00:25:13.100 Defenestrated. Okay. Yeah. 2019. Well, Jared's channel somehow continued on until,

00:25:18.480 uh, God, I want to see it was due. It was right after George Floyd. So it was probably early June

00:25:27.060 of 2020. He had about 125,000 subscribers to just his video channel. And without even promoting it that

00:25:34.980 much, we had 35,000 subscribers to just the podcasts, Jared and I do a podcast every week.

00:25:42.760 Um, it's on rumble now, but again, it never got anywhere near the size of YouTube because YouTube

00:25:48.640 has the just complete channel dominance in that sphere. And, um, it's, it's always, I'm sure

00:25:56.700 sometimes you think back and God, have we not been kicked off YouTube? How many subscribers,

00:26:00.640 but we had, cause you guys had what, close to a million? No, we had, we were at like 333,

00:26:06.180 almost like even a 333,000 or something like that. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, it would have,

00:26:11.340 it would continue to grow. We probably had at least half a million, probably heading towards,

00:26:15.060 you know, who knows 700,000. If we could continue, this is almost four over four years ago now. So,

00:26:20.260 you know, yeah. If you're talking about just 10% increase year over year, you're well over 500,000.

00:26:25.680 Yeah. So, uh, and that's the trajectory that things were going because I mean, there was just,

00:26:30.840 there was just nobody out there being able to really talk about stuff during, uh, the summer

00:26:35.340 of George Floyd. It's, I, um, I, I, I sometimes marvel when I read about something that was taken

00:26:41.780 down or something that was, uh, renamed. I just like, God, I don't remember this. When did this

00:26:47.580 happen? And it is astonishing to think about everything that has happened since 2020. But I

00:26:53.180 think one of the most important things is that somebody got Elon Musk to go into Babylon B and

00:26:59.980 he talked about the woke mind virus and someone said, Hey, you should buy Twitter and he ended up

00:27:04.020 going through it. And yeah, you know, he's, he's taking, he's putting, he's putting everything on

00:27:09.700 the table right now. I mean, there was no reason to bring back Alex Jones and I have some reservations

00:27:14.400 because I just, I don't think you can honestly talk about the Chinese owning Hollywood, uh, as he does. 1.00

00:27:20.680 Um, you know, uh, come on. Um, it's, uh, as Steve Sabler always talks about, he talks about the,

00:27:29.120 uh, Gary Sanders show and somebody said, come on, you know, it's, uh, it, it, it's the Jews who run 0.99

00:27:34.360 Hollywood and someone that, and that show goes, no, it's the gay Jews. And, uh, I think I'm just 0.95

00:27:40.140 quoting, I'm just quoting the Gary, uh, the Gary Sanders show, which was on HBO and it was a

00:27:44.540 brilliant show. But, um, anyways, no, I mean, let's just be blunt. I mean, it's, uh, Alex Jones

00:27:51.360 is, it's crazy to think that Elon Musk with all that has happened with him taking on the ADL.

00:27:57.060 Now that's amazing lawsuit against media matters, which is phenomenal, but that he would then bring

00:28:04.300 back Alex Jones, a guy who is facing what billion dollar, um, uh, judgment, uh, for the Sandy,

00:28:12.180 yeah, the Sandy hook stuff and just a continual list of charges and, um, that he has to go through

00:28:18.600 and the bankruptcy of info wars. And, and, uh, I think I just read where he just got a permission

00:28:24.680 to sell his firearms to pay down some of his debt. And, but again, the fact that Elon is aligning

00:28:30.720 with this stuff, it feels like, um, and I know a lot of your audience might laugh at this, but

00:28:35.440 there's, there's been an energy shift in, uh, this year. Um, the fact that somebody actually took

00:28:41.340 on the ADL and then that motivated your normal conservative leaders to be like, Oh wow, is it

00:28:47.700 okay to attack the ADL now? And, and, um, and then for, you know, just everybody piloted on media

00:28:54.380 matters and people like Aaron McIntyre on Twitter over at Breitbart who, um, I'm sorry, he's

00:29:00.700 not at Breitbart. He's at the blaze. He's at Glenn Beck's organization. He's, he's basic.

00:29:05.280 He's basically built his whole audience off of being a Sam Francis, um, uh, disciple and 0.96

00:29:14.760 just tweeting the best stuff about, you know, these people are just pedophiles. You know, 0.89

00:29:19.020 it's like that great joke. It's like that great joke about, uh, about Norm Macdonald.

00:29:23.900 If you ever want to laugh and think about what we could have been, go back and watch Norm

00:29:27.820 McDonald on the, on the, um, weekend update in the nineties on comedy central where he

00:29:33.140 just roasts everyone. And on one of the episodes, he talks about how, um, you know, Michael Jackson's

00:29:38.280 excited that he's having a boy because, you know, he gets to, you know, cause he's a, you 0.52

00:29:43.720 know, you know, and then Norm Macdonald goes cause he's a, you know, cause he's a gay pederast 1.00

00:29:48.240 and he actually says this on air and it's just hilarious. And it's just, you know, you got

00:29:52.420 to call these people out. And I think one of the things we have to realize now is spite

00:29:57.300 is a very powerful thing. And when Elon Musk was being interviewed at that New York times

00:30:02.640 event and the guy said, well, what are you, aren't you worried about all these advertisers

00:30:06.020 leaving? And he said, he said, yeah, GFY, you know, GFY go fuck yourself. I think there's 1.00

00:30:13.500 so much power in that. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't started putting out GFY, um, apparel.

00:30:19.540 I think it'd be cool on a hat. I think it'd be cool on a nice polo. Um, and, uh, I mean,

00:30:24.280 here's, he's a guy who, who he can't, you know, again, imagine if you were to tell everybody

00:30:31.880 back when he bought Twitter that he was going to go to war with the ADL, he was going to

00:30:35.740 tweet Keith Woods, retweet Keith Woods or no, was it Keith Woods he retweeted or who

00:30:39.960 was it that he replied? I think he replied to a number of his tweets. He replied to a number

00:30:44.240 of his tweets, but that when he said the thing about what he said about, um, liberal Jews

00:30:49.340 and the replacement stuff. Yeah. That was, uh, yeah, that was, there was not, that was

00:30:53.160 not a Keith Woods tweet, but it was, what was his name? If the artist formerly known as

00:30:56.940 Eric or something like that was his username, but some random guy, you know, like, okay,

00:31:01.860 well, good. You know, if you had, if you had even remotely thought that something like

00:31:06.780 that was possible where, you know, Elon Musk is calling out what's happening in South

00:31:11.280 Africa with the kill the boar song. Um, and then doing that, I mean, who knows what

00:31:17.640 2024 is going to bring. And that's, that's the beautiful thing. That's, that's why, you

00:31:23.100 know, in the face of all that has happened, we still have the ability to communicate with

00:31:27.000 each other, to build audiences, to interact with people who, who know something's wrong.

00:31:32.840 And now, you know, again, that's why interacting with Andrew Tate and having him be put up on

00:31:39.320 a pedestal. That's disgusting. Um, and there's that, there is that, I mean, I'm not a hundred 0.88

00:31:44.780 percent certain I trust Elon, but I think there's a, there's a legitimate, like a, a,

00:31:48.680 a real time, um, how do we, how do you put it? Like it's just seeing him going through

00:31:54.320 stuff, waking up to stuff and realizing he's, yeah, I think he, sometimes he tries to play

00:31:59.440 both sides a little bit. He's trying to, you know, he kind of figures it out as he goes

00:32:03.400 a little bit. And, and I'm not, I'm not sure he's a hundred percent sure what he's actually

00:32:06.640 up against yet. I hope he works up to that. But then you have that, you kind of have

00:32:10.280 that slimy, like grifter vibe of people around all of, all of these people, you

00:32:15.180 know what I mean? That like attaches themselves to it. And it kind of, it is what it is at

00:32:18.940 the end of the day. I mean, we're not going to just, you know, stop that. It's good to

00:32:21.460 have crossover and discussions and whatnot, but it's the same thing with like a Tucker,

00:32:26.280 right? Like you want to be edgy and stuff like you just get like, get a Jared Taylor on

00:32:31.120 the show. You know what I mean? Get a, get a Kevin McDonald on there. Like actually poke

00:32:34.280 the, poke the establishment in the eye a little bit. I mean, it's like, sure you do, you

00:32:38.460 can do an interview with Andrew Tate too. That's fine. But Tucker was, Tucker was one

00:32:42.880 time. Yeah. Tucker was one time given a copy of Jared Taylor's white identity and he read

00:32:48.540 30 pages of it and put it down. And he told the person who gave it to him, it was just

00:32:54.040 too depressing. Cause it's, it's, it's, it's, I mean, again, it's Jared, again, you, you

00:33:00.380 talk about everything that's going on and yes, it would be great if Jared were on Twitter.

00:33:04.380 Obviously it would be great if he was able to put his show directly onto Twitter. And

00:33:10.380 is that, is that something you guys do?

00:33:12.200 We do. Yeah. When we live stream, we go out on Twitter and we upload, you know, interviews

00:33:16.460 later on and stuff like that. And some of them, some of them take off. I mean, and it's

00:33:19.900 great. Certain videos we had that, we did the one recently on the Scottish prime minister.

00:33:23.740 He did a followup to the white, white, white talk there. And he got, he, he got mad and

00:33:29.160 read, read, replied to it or he retweeted it or something. And then, uh, what's his name?

00:33:34.580 Jordan Peterson got involved and replied to it and stuff. So that got like a, you know,

00:33:38.260 over a million views or something like that. So it's good when you can like, you know,

00:33:42.200 have things like that kind of poke through. Cause that used to be possible with YouTube

00:33:45.720 just to go back to what you mentioned before, but then they started the throttling and stuff

00:33:49.180 like that. I'm just saying, can you imagine if we were still like an even playing field,

00:33:54.800 field on social media and, and collectively all of us could like, you know, contribute

00:33:59.340 to like just pushing back against the propaganda machine, uh, man, it would be, uh, it would

00:34:04.140 be amazing. But X has helped a lot. I will say that it's Elon has a lot of credit there

00:34:09.060 for sure.

00:34:09.820 Yeah. Well, I just go back and look at a guy who was facing a long prison sentence, uh, Ricky

00:34:16.100 Vaughn. I believe he was one of back in 2015, 2016, there was some release of the most, uh,

00:34:23.460 quoted person on Twitter regarding the election, the most influential accounts on Twitter or

00:34:29.800 in the media. And Ricky Vaughn was an, I was like the top 15. It was insane to think what

00:34:34.380 he was doing and that actual, uh, environment that was truly let's be blunt. It was free.

00:34:41.160 It was amazing. The reach you could have on, on Twitter and on Facebook, um, to build audiences,

00:34:47.380 to connect, to connect people who had similar interests and to see virality, um, or virality,

00:34:55.580 the viral nature of, of what posts could do. And that is, I think coming back, um, in some ways,

00:35:01.440 of course, the scrutiny that Elon Musk is facing from, you know, the New York times,

00:35:06.560 Washington post, the ADL, um, and all these, all these organizations. And of course,

00:35:11.240 all these massive corporations that just decided, um, yeah, we're going to pull funding. Um,

00:35:18.320 that's kind of what happened to Alex Jones though, by the way, if you go back and think about 2018,

00:35:22.340 Alex Jones was depersoned, unpersoned by, uh, what was it? Um, the Apple store, all the platforms just

00:35:32.400 decided one day to kick him off. And then the last one standing was Twitter. And then he interacted with,

00:35:37.420 uh, all over Darcy, the, uh, CNN. Yeah. Yeah. Um, anyways, uh, so yeah. And then Twitter was the

00:35:47.760 last one standing and that was once, once that was done, it was sad, but no, I think that, um,

00:35:53.800 again, everybody out there listening, if you're inspired to, to, to, to become a creator,

00:35:59.700 Twitter's your best place to do it right now. Cause if you're, if you're putting out videos,

00:36:03.100 you got a chance to be monetized and you got a chance to interact with, with, you know,

00:36:07.960 you can interact with, uh, former presidents, you can interact with anyone. And one of the things

00:36:12.140 that upsets me by the way, about truth, social, whatever deal Donald Trump signed, there is no

00:36:17.360 reason this guy's not tweeting right now. I know. Yeah. It does not make any sense. Well,

00:36:22.080 he did that one, didn't he do his mugshot or something like that? He did do one tweet.

00:36:26.880 That might've been the Trump war room. Um, I don't remember if it was the Donald Trump account.

00:36:30.780 Uh, you can't quote, can't quote me on that, but, uh, there's no reason that he hasn't done a,

00:36:37.720 do you remember when it was, this was when Matt Drudge still owned Drudge.

00:36:43.280 Donald Trump was a candidate for, I don't believe he'd gotten the nomination yet,

00:36:47.120 but he did an hour long interview with Alex Jones that Drudge carried as the main thing.

00:36:53.300 And it was just, it was insane to think this guy's going to win the presidency and he's normalizing

00:36:59.140 Alex Jones. Yeah. Yep. And that to me, if you're Donald Trump, why not, why not just say, Hey,

00:37:06.160 you know what, Alex, let's, uh, let's get on Twitter and break the, and break the, and break

00:37:09.680 the world. Cause then all these corporations have to start, um, all these news outlets,

00:37:15.520 corporate owned outlets, uh, by the regime media, they have to cover Twitter again or acts,

00:37:20.460 whatever you want to call it. Um, and it would be great to, it would be great to get, uh,

00:37:25.640 Bannon on that call as well. And, uh, it's, it, it really just at this point utilize what you have

00:37:33.000 and, and, you know, truth has been such a bomb. I don't know. Are you guys on there?

00:37:37.320 Uh, truth social. Yeah, we do have an account. We just, we basically just post links to the shows

00:37:41.240 and stuff like that. I'm not sure. Is it busy over there? And it seems, uh, so it seems all right.

00:37:45.940 Uh, I don't think it's too busy probably, but, um, only when Trump tweets something,

00:37:52.600 I'm sure then Jack Posobiec probably says, Oh, look what he just tweeted. No, the point is, uh,

00:37:57.160 the point is that Trump should, and I, I don't know if people will laugh what I'm about to say,

00:38:03.060 but I really believe Trump should call himself president of exile. I'm kind of sad he hasn't.

00:38:08.160 And he, um, he should say, yeah, you know, uh, he should play into the whole dictator for a day

00:38:14.180 thing. And I do hope that he does, um, end up choosing Tucker Carlson as his running mate. Um,

00:38:21.180 and really just this being the revenge campaign. Um, and that, that, that's what I hope for.

00:38:27.080 Yeah, but it's, it's good to see, it's great to see all these, you know, shit libs and a lot of 0.94

00:38:33.720 people in the establishment, you know, quetch and shriek it at this, be that Alex Jones getting his 0.89

00:38:38.600 account back or, you know, be that, uh, you know, to Trump running again. And it's 100% true.

00:38:44.280 All of them are, they're trying to be stopped. They're trying to bankrupt. Well,

00:38:47.280 they are bankrupting Alex Jones. They basically try to say even that, that his bankruptcy is not

00:38:52.020 good enough. You have to pay anyway, weird shit like this. All these legal things they're doing. 0.99

00:38:57.240 Just look at what, what, what Trump is going through. But then part of me also feels says,

00:39:00.700 you know, I plenty of criticisms also of, of these guys. Right. And it feels like the kind of 2024

00:39:07.780 is going to be, I mean, it's going to be wilder probably, but it's going to be that circus over again.

00:39:12.460 And, and I remember like, you know, there's things towards the end of, you know, Trump

00:39:15.560 did, like he was talking about, uh, we're going to do, you know, do more immigration than ever

00:39:20.360 into America, just legally. You know, there's like these things all the time. And I just don't,

00:39:24.600 you know, moving the embassy, uh, you know, to Jerusalem as opposed to Tel Aviv, all the

00:39:29.360 things he did for Israel and all that stuff. I have so many criticism of the guy. And then

00:39:33.360 yet at the same time, I enjoy, I enjoy just seeing it. I enjoy seeing so many of the anti-whites,

00:39:39.500 but it's almost like, well, I said this the other day. It's like, he's being accused of

00:39:43.200 being a white nationalist. He's accused of being, yes, all the usual, like a racist and 0.79

00:39:47.280 a bigot and a, you know, Nazi and all that stuff. And we have the whole, the entire system

00:39:51.820 beyond, you know, like the, the, the MAGA movement or whatever you want to call it for

00:39:55.880 short, uh, is reacting to it like that is the case. But with the Trump, we kind of, we,

00:40:03.480 we got a boost of like white identity and things like that. I think it was good for people.

00:40:07.100 For people, it was good, but within the system or the system, the, the, the government that

00:40:11.340 the Trump ran, the administration and stuff like that, we got none almost of the white 0.98

00:40:15.880 nationalism. Do you see what I'm saying? Like we got none of the white nationalism, but we

00:40:18.760 got a, a pushback against like it was white nationalism that was dictating the show, uh,

00:40:24.060 for four years. Are we just going to do that all over again? Where do you see this going?

00:40:27.960 And obviously this is a step up a level for, for this to evolve in some way, right? What do you

00:40:32.160 think? Yeah. Yeah. Two things. One, I hate the term white nationalist, um, but you know what I

00:40:37.920 mean though, right? Like a white identity or whatever, you know, I hate that term too. You 0.90

00:40:42.660 know, America was founded. Um, unfortunately it wasn't in the declaration, it wasn't enough

00:40:49.680 in the declaration of independence or the bill of rights. But our first act of, uh, Congress

00:40:54.480 under George Washington, his first thing that he signed was the naturalization act of 1790,

00:40:59.620 which made it quite clear who could be citizens. So yes, it's, uh, without a doubt, but yeah,

00:41:05.080 I, um, I think that Donald Trump is an avid golfer and there's a term called a mulligan.

00:41:12.120 If you hit a bad shot, if you're gentlemen, you're going to let, uh, you're going to let

00:41:17.100 them have a mulligan, get a do over. And I think that this, I think Donald Trump is going

00:41:23.620 to win. And I think that his, uh, his presidency is going to be the mulligan. And I believe that

00:41:30.180 he, that's why he can not pick somebody like, um, the vice president that he had, uh, who's

00:41:36.760 so devoted to the establishment. Uh, I think Tucker is the absolute perfect pick because

00:41:42.180 he's articulate. He can go out there and probably get just as large of a crowd.

00:41:46.260 And he's not going to do it though. Right. He's he's, I mean, he's not, he's, I think

00:41:50.260 he's said a few times and now he's starting his network and stuff. Right. So he's, he's

00:41:53.400 busy, I think to be honest. Yeah. I mean, he's, he's really, I mean, to a chance to, you

00:42:00.300 know, he's got Tucker's got four kids and you think back to everything that he's faced.

00:42:04.920 I, uh, I will always go to that story where Antifa tried to kick his, kick his, uh, door

00:42:11.680 end, uh, his home in Georgetown. Remember that? Yeah. And his wife, uh, was hiding

00:42:16.760 in one of the pantry. I've actually been to that house a couple of times and I was trying

00:42:22.180 to, when the story happened, I was trying to think where in the house he was, uh, his

00:42:26.220 wife was trying to hide, um, as they were just massive amounts of Antifa trying to break

00:42:31.920 in to Tucker's house. And who knows what they would have done if they had broken in. And

00:42:36.020 you think about the violence that we all saw unfold after George Floyd died of a fentanyl

00:42:43.120 overdose and the custody of Derek Chauvin and, uh, the other, uh, three police officers

00:42:48.560 there in Minneapolis and everything that subsequently unfolded. And it's going to get really interesting.

00:42:53.560 I think that's going to be the main thing. And I just want to see, um, what we're beginning

00:42:58.060 to see are red state AGs to get really, um, into the concept of winning. We've seen that

00:43:05.400 with the AG in Texas, who's done a lot of great lawsuits, who just went through, um,

00:43:11.000 an attempt to impeach him. Uh, sorry, I can't think of his name. Is it Ken? Why am I blanking

00:43:16.860 on the AG of Texas name? He's, he's such an awesome guy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, holy

00:43:21.080 smokes. Yeah. And the, the, the, the Missouri AD, they're actually investigating. I saw that

00:43:26.600 right now. I saw that. I think that's, I think that's amazing. They're actually trying

00:43:30.000 to see if there's fraud involved with a lot of these things. And if I don't understand

00:43:35.140 why Alabama won't go after the SPLC, which is, you know, it's, uh, their, their, their

00:43:39.900 headquarters are in Montgomery, um, for everything that they've done, including the fact that

00:43:44.720 one of their lawyers, um, is part of that, uh, Rico investigation for the, um, for the

00:43:51.320 Antifa stuff that's gone on there at the police training center in Atlanta. Uh, so really what

00:43:56.780 you just need to see is what's happened to V-Dare, unfortunately, and the NRA, excuse me,

00:44:00.880 um, and, um, and the Trump, um, and the Trump foundation, New York, Letitia James, the black 0.69

00:44:08.920 AG basically ran, she ran saying, I, I, you know, elect me and I will go to war with these

00:44:14.140 people there. I consider them enemies and you have to use the law. You have to, you have

00:44:20.160 to do that. And, um, I think that's the only way we're going to truly see the end of,

00:44:25.160 uh, D-I-E to his everlasting credit. Uh, Governor DeSantis has done a great job in dismantling

00:44:31.280 a lot of the apparatus. Of course, at the same time, he's done a lot to destroy freedom

00:44:35.180 of speech in the state of Florida with very questionable things that he's signed in other

00:44:39.260 nations. Uh, that's right. And that's what I'm talking about. Like that you, you have so

00:44:43.340 much of that part of like this whole sphere and like you might get some positive things

00:44:47.980 out of it, but then there's like this huge disappointments weaved into it as well. And

00:44:51.980 it, you know, we should take victories where there are, where there are that. And, and,

00:44:55.320 and certainly, I mean, you're a hundred percent correct. Like look at how much the, the, the

00:45:00.940 winds have moved, if you will, in, in, in our direction, you know, and, and, and how, how

00:45:06.340 much, I mean, even the fact that Vivek Ramaswamy in the debate the other day talked about how

00:45:12.120 the grape replacement is real, you know, like it's, these things are out there now. People

00:45:16.220 are talking about this stuff. It's not 2013 anymore. You know what I mean? This is 10 years

00:45:20.340 later, this is now getting out there and it's in the mainstream. So that's great. That's

00:45:25.240 very, very good.

00:45:26.720 Oh, it's phenomenal. And I think that, um, in a lot of ways, Trump was that bridge to

00:45:31.960 the next era of Western civilization. If I can quote Bain from dark night rises, uh, you

00:45:38.560 know, people of people of their status deserve to see the next era of Western civilization.

00:45:43.400 Um, Trump, Trump was that bridge and inadvertently, uh, you know, here's a guy who came down an

00:45:50.560 escalator and gave a rambling speech and then started talking about rapists from Mexico.

00:45:56.440 And, uh, then he jumped to the top of the list of the, uh, Republican nominee, uh, candidates

00:46:01.700 for the nominee for, for POTUS. And, you know, he didn't really talk about immigration a little

00:46:06.620 bit, but I mean, people are, people are only as radical as they're allowed to be. And I,

00:46:12.780 I just feel that across the country right now, so many people have seen what's happened at

00:46:18.880 the border who've never been political before. Um, you know, although we do need to talk about

00:46:24.420 this because the whole D D I E stuff, diversity, inclusion, equity, everything that's happening

00:46:29.880 right now, um, at the Ivy leagues and pretty much all, all major colleges. I want to save

00:46:37.480 that for part two. I'm glad you brought that up because yeah, that's a great, uh, you know,

00:46:41.820 segue over to that eventually because yeah, it's interesting. It's been a clear divide here,

00:46:46.340 right? You can have a Charlie Kirk who obviously, you know, even there, he's talking about like

00:46:49.900 disproportionate influence of, uh, leftist Jewish, you know, open borders, uh, you know, activism 0.62

00:46:55.720 and things like that from, he doesn't mention like highest or, you know, Pidea or Jewish family

00:47:00.700 found or any of these things, but he's talking about that. There's like, that's a, that's a

00:47:03.360 segment right there. And then you get like a Ben Shapiro on the flip side of that. And some of

00:47:07.280 these other ones have just freaked out entirely. And they were like shut down protests, shut down

00:47:11.260 free speech control. So we'll get into that more detail here in part two, but, uh, towards the end

00:47:16.280 here of the first part, let's, let's plug, plug some of your books here again, then white on the

00:47:20.660 moon by Paul Kersey. It's up on Antelope Hill. You can get it that you can get it on Amazon. I'm not sure if

00:47:24.900 there's a price difference. Do you lose some if it's on three Amazon? I think it's always better

00:47:28.580 to go to the publisher, right? To buy the books. It's always good to go to the publisher. You can

00:47:32.640 contact me at, uh, because we live here at protonmail.com. Once again, that email address

00:47:38.180 because we live here at protonmail.com. And, uh, yeah, we can work out a signed copy of either

00:47:46.380 black Mecca down or, or white on the moon. It's cool when it's on Amazon and it gets into the top,

00:47:50.920 you know, top 50, top 20, top, top 10, a thousand, uh, my late friend, Colin Flaherty.

00:47:57.300 He was always shocked when I'd help him get the book, his book, whitey, um, sorry, white girl bleed 1.00

00:48:02.560 a lot into, I want to say it was one time when Thomas soul wrote about escape from Detroit and

00:48:09.180 white girl bleed a lot. Um, both those books got into like the top 100 on Amazon. And he was like,

00:48:15.960 can you believe this? And unfortunately, you know, Amazon does own that, that's, that's fear. So it

00:48:20.440 is cool when you can say, yeah, I was a bestseller on Amazon for a, for a day. So.

00:48:27.180 Yeah, no, that's a Colin Flaherty. He'll be when he was, uh, was that last year or the year before

00:48:31.800 there? He, that he died, passed away. Uh, Colin, Colin Flaherty died of, uh, very aggressive

00:48:38.960 cancer, uh, leukemia in 2020, 2022, 2022. That's right. So it was last year. That's right. Okay. Yep.

00:48:44.880 Sad, sad, sad loss, but he did. He put up a good fight. Uh, invaluable work. Uh, that

00:48:49.880 guy. Uh, all right. So we got that. We got whitey on the moon. Check out Antelope Hill. 0.98

00:48:53.580 We'll add some links down below. We also have, we haven't talked about it yet, but a black 1.00

00:48:56.600 mecca down, uh, that's up there as well. So check that out. It's more about it's, is it,

00:49:01.980 it's your essays, right? It's a compilation of the essays you've written. Yeah, that one,

00:49:06.440 that is the, uh, that's the book about Atlanta. So I did, um, I started doing basically micro

00:49:12.300 looks at the collapse of cities and just basically said, Hey, it's, it's race stupid. 0.98

00:49:15.900 And, uh, the first one was Detroit escape from Detroit. Then I did one with, uh, James 0.99

00:49:21.820 Kirkpatrick, Gregory hood. That was called, uh, God, what was that one called? Sorry.

00:49:28.280 I forgot. It was called second city confidential. Basically they were just, it was, it was a dumb,

00:49:35.800 uh, branding thing that I decided to think of some, some of my favorite movies and just basically,

00:49:42.440 you know, steal those titles and, and work those in. Uh, so black mecca down black Hawk down, uh, 0.57

00:49:48.800 Atlanta is known as a black mecca and it, um, it's one of the most segregated cities. I'm,

00:49:54.500 I'm from the suburbs of Atlanta. So I know it intimately. And, uh, what's happened to Georgia

00:49:58.960 is disgraceful with the great replacement going from 73% white, the state in 1990 to, uh, 0.96

00:50:05.600 about 51% white today. Uh, and a lot of that growth is, uh, not just blacks coming from back

00:50:12.320 from, uh, Northern cities, uh, to live in, uh, the black mecca and the surrounding suburbs,

00:50:17.800 but also, uh, heavily heavy growth in the, uh, Asian and the Hispanic, uh, communities there.

00:50:23.980 So that's right. Yep. They are replacing us. Yeah. There was some, let's see if I finally

00:50:28.000 clipped later with someone who talked about, we got to migrate to the South or something like

00:50:31.900 that. Anyway, we'll, we'll talk about that later. And there was a one County, I forget what it

00:50:35.360 was called to try to, or can it was like a wealthier, uh, area, but it's, yeah, it's

00:50:40.940 bucket, bucket, bucket, try to break away. Right. Have they managed that? Have you followed

00:50:45.660 up on that? I, I, I haven't. Oh, they, uh, unfortunately that was tabled by, uh, Brian

00:50:50.780 Kemp, uh, the governor, uh, helped override that. Uh, Trump of course attacked him for

00:50:55.440 that. He believes that the good people of Buckhead, which I do as well, should be able to leave

00:50:59.400 the city because it would neuter Atlanta, um, instantly take away, uh, more than half

00:51:05.680 of the tax base for the city and they'd be able to incorporate. And, but unfortunately

00:51:10.480 the problem is you just can't keep them out. Um, you know, you can't, you're not allowed

00:51:14.160 freedom of association. And if you had, if you had two things, if you actually had the

00:51:19.260 ability to have restrictive covenants, which Shelley versus Kramer back in 1948, that's the

00:51:24.400 most devastating, uh, Supreme court decision of all time, which destroyed freedom of,

00:51:29.480 uh, freedom of association. Uh, and which of course the NAACP was founded to go after.

00:51:35.620 Uh, that was one of the main things and they, they went to war, took them 30 years to finally,

00:51:40.520 uh, overturn restrictive covenants. And if you actually had that, you could have freedom.

00:51:44.820 And, but of course, if you actually had what, uh, Oregon had when they decided to vote to

00:51:49.320 just make the state so that, you know, uh, back in the 1850s or 1860s, blacks couldn't 0.99

00:51:54.100 even live in the state. Um, and they voted on it and, you know, they didn't want either

00:51:58.140 slavery or, or, or, or, or freed blacks. And, uh, you know, so anyways, just a little

00:52:04.120 history lesson for everyone paying attention.

00:52:05.960 Yep. That's right. All right. Make sure you follow, uh, Paul Curse, of course, on his,

00:52:09.740 uh, X or Twitter. It's, it's very, it's very hard with the name. I just, I can't get over

00:52:14.200 the exit rebranding. All right. Anyway, uh, it's, uh, B W L H underscore. So that's a short 0.99

00:52:20.660 for it because we live here and underscore on that, of course, uh, you have this, 0.56

00:52:24.000 uh, archives under, uh, stuff black people don't like S P D L S P, sorry, S B P D L. It 1.00

00:52:31.800 should be on UNS as well. Uh, so check that out. And of course the podcast together with 0.61

00:52:36.440 Jared, of course, a great podcast that they do together, uh, at Amron.com. So that's some

00:52:40.760 of the plugs for some of the stuff, uh, Paul is doing. Uh, all right, guys, stay with us.

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Red Ice TV - December 20, 2023

Whitey On The Moon, 2024 Might Get A Bit Rocky - Paul Kersey

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