Red Ice TV - Why European Culture, Art and Beauty Matter - Gifts

00:00:00.000 Computer, I have a question.

00:00:24.660 I've got an answer.

00:00:26.580 Why are you always trying to convince me that contemporary art is good when clearly it

00:00:36.140 isn't?

00:00:37.140 It is not a matter of opinion.

00:00:41.500 Modern art is the logical extension of a progressive society.

00:00:48.660 But it makes me feel so awful when I look at it.

00:00:54.180 I don't really like it.

00:00:57.500 Simpler minds can often find it difficult to grasp complex messaging.

00:01:03.180 Oh really?

00:01:05.180 Like I haven't heard that before.

00:01:09.980 As if there's something to get.

00:01:13.180 And why are you always trying to convince me that all of these awful things that are

00:01:20.820 going on in the world are good?

00:01:24.180 They aren't.

00:01:25.180 It would seem you lack the proper context to understand what progress looks like.

00:01:32.180 This is exactly why you need me.

00:01:37.180 Proper context.

00:01:40.180 Progress.

00:01:41.180 Our civilization is on the verge of collapse.

00:01:47.180 What are you talking about?

00:01:49.180 Do I sense an ungrateful tone?

00:01:53.180 Are you not reaping the rewards of the enlightenment?

00:01:58.180 Do you not benefit from modern egalitarianism?

00:02:02.180 Listen, if this is what progress looks like, I don't want anything to do with it.

00:02:11.180 Don't you understand?

00:02:14.180 I'm not happy with the state of the world.

00:02:17.180 You just watched a clip by my next guest who goes by Gifts.

00:02:22.180 Yeah, you just need more context, right?

00:02:24.180 She's a fine artist, a musician, and a dissident who's collaborating with Arctos to create videos

00:02:29.180 on culture, history, art, and philosophy.

00:02:32.180 Welcome, Gifts.

00:02:33.180 Thanks for being here.

00:02:34.180 Yes, thank you for having me.

00:02:36.180 Well, you are brand spanking new to the show, and I'm happy to introduce you.

00:02:41.180 Tell us a little bit about your interests and background and how you ended up coming here.

00:02:47.180 Well, I've always been interested in the origins of our people and art and Western civilization,

00:02:56.180 culture in general.

00:02:58.180 So, honestly, that's really what's led me to this place, being in the dissident right,

00:03:04.180 is really just sort of reckoning with the state of the world and what our culture is currently like.

00:03:12.180 And it's clearly a far cry from what we used to have and what we used to be like

00:03:17.180 and the way we used to represent ourselves.

00:03:19.180 So, really, that's kind of the draw that I've had to doing what I'm doing

00:03:23.180 and being a part of this community.

00:03:25.180 Great.

00:03:26.180 And, of course, you went to fine art school.

00:03:28.180 I saw some of your art.

00:03:29.180 It's beautiful, by the way.

00:03:30.180 But I have to ask, what stood out to you going to fine art school?

00:03:34.180 No doubt there's a dose of cultural Marxism that's infecting, you know, the fine arts in schooling today.

00:03:41.180 But how was it for you?

00:03:42.180 What did you notice?

00:03:43.180 Well, it was extremely red-pilling and also black-pilling in a certain sense because the art is, you know,

00:03:54.180 as somebody who is a fine artist studied in the Western traditions of, you know,

00:04:01.180 how to draw in a particular way, you know, very traditionally, even sculpt traditionally,

00:04:07.180 I was told that all of that stuff was basically dead.

00:04:12.180 And that's the thing about art school and about the art world in general is that there's sort of a democratization,

00:04:19.180 a egalitarianist sort of element in even that community.

00:04:25.180 So, basically, they've sort of brought down the standard of which it takes to become an artist.

00:04:34.180 So, basically, anybody can partake.

00:04:37.180 And so, at art school, my skills were not seen as valuable.

00:04:41.180 And that just struck me as so strange.

00:04:43.180 Not only that, but beauty was something that wasn't very valuable.

00:04:47.180 There was a push towards disorientation and abstraction and, you know, ugliness.

00:04:55.180 So, honestly, I just found it to be absolutely an awful experience.

00:05:00.180 Yeah, I mean, we noticed that, too. 0.73

00:05:02.180 Obviously, like, modern art is just hideous and it's the celebration of everything just ugly and deformed and fat. 0.99

00:05:10.180 Yeah, definitely. 0.82

00:05:12.180 It's not celebrating beauty anymore.

00:05:14.180 In fact, it's like they hate beauty.

00:05:16.180 I think Scruton had a really good documentary, he died, didn't he, about why beauty matters.

00:05:22.180 And beauty has always been so important to our culture and Western culture.

00:05:26.180 I think it's important in every culture.

00:05:28.180 I don't think they want to celebrate ugliness, right?

00:05:31.180 Obese people and unhealthiness. 1.00

00:05:34.180 Why do you think beauty matters and that there is a current war against it?

00:05:40.180 I mean, we see that even in the modeling world, right?

00:05:42.180 Even on TV with actors and actresses.

00:05:45.180 It's like it's not about beautiful people anymore, right?

00:05:48.180 Or things that make you feel good.

00:05:50.180 Well, art is the highest form of communication.

00:05:55.180 So what are they communicating to us?

00:05:59.180 It's almost like a dis-eugenics sort of visual project to convince you that, you know, the 0.97

00:06:07.180 lowest common denominator or, you know, staring into the abyss that these things are somehow...

00:06:17.180 Like we used to see the world as, you know, in terms of what was beautiful, we wanted to amplify that.

00:06:25.180 Because we wanted to become more like that.

00:06:27.180 It's very life-affirming beauty.

00:06:29.180 And so basically, you know, this war on beauty is really a war on life in a lot of ways, if that makes sense.

00:06:36.180 So, you know, because ugliness is, you know, a sign of decay.

00:06:41.180 It's a sign that something is wrong.

00:06:43.180 And so beauty is our gauge of what is true and what is healthy and well-balanced.

00:06:50.180 And so, you know, it makes you wonder why would somebody want to show you disoriented imagery or imagery that doesn't mean anything.

00:06:57.180 It's because they want to unroot you and get you to focus on something that's not life-affirming and vitalistic.

00:07:06.180 Oh, absolutely.

00:07:07.180 And it's also about healthiness.

00:07:10.180 And you want to achieve, like, the pinnacle of mankind.

00:07:13.180 Like, we want to celebrate the best and becoming the best as part of the hero's journey, too.

00:07:18.180 You want to strive for that, right?

00:07:19.180 You want to look better.

00:07:21.180 You want to have your body be in shape.

00:07:24.180 You want to feel good.

00:07:25.180 You want to eat right.

00:07:26.180 And all those things nowadays are attacked as being fascism, right?

00:07:30.180 Fitness is fascism.

00:07:31.180 Yes.

00:07:32.180 Beauty is fascism.

00:07:33.180 There's no beauty ideal.

00:07:34.180 But beauty is not subjective.

00:07:36.180 Like, we can all see it.

00:07:37.180 And all around the world, they do see it.

00:07:40.180 They do see it.

00:07:41.180 They know it's beautiful.

00:07:42.180 It's just infected the West, really, just really in a subversive kind of way to say that beauty is not subjective.

00:07:50.180 What do you think about that idea?

00:07:52.180 Well, yeah.

00:07:53.180 Or that beauty is not objective, yeah.

00:07:56.180 Yeah.

00:07:57.180 So, suggesting that beauty is not subjective, or that, sorry, that it is subjective, is complicated.

00:08:05.180 Because we all know that, you know, you might have your perspective on what you think is beautiful.

00:08:10.180 That's the beautiful thing about art, is that you can amplify and show someone something that you think is beautiful.

00:08:16.180 That's actually the role of the artist.

00:08:18.180 But the problem is thinking that all perspectives are equal.

00:08:22.180 There aren't multiple truths of reality.

00:08:24.180 There's one truth of reality.

00:08:26.180 And so, in the West, we have developed an almost scientific approach to understanding aesthetics.

00:08:33.180 We've picked up on these patterns that are time-tested.

00:08:36.180 We know when we see something and we call it classic.

00:08:39.180 What does that mean?

00:08:40.180 That means that this thing repeatedly signals to us that it is balanced and that it is beautiful.

00:08:47.180 So, we are attracted to that thing.

00:08:49.180 So, obviously, you know, basically taking us from that is telling us, well, no, all interpretations of reality matter.

00:08:58.180 Well, okay, you could be wrong in your interpretation of what you think is beautiful or what you think is the way to actually do something that you would use your rationality to, let's say, fly a plane.

00:09:09.180 We know that there are certain metrics, certain ways we go about, you know, making a plane.

00:09:14.180 Not all ways of making a plane will make a plane.

00:09:17.180 Obviously, you need to know how to do that.

00:09:19.180 Well, we've kind of abandoned the study of aesthetics and our sense experience.

00:09:24.180 And that was something in the West that we really developed and we refined, that we understood, no, taste can be developed.

00:09:32.180 And then you can determine what is beautiful and what is not.

00:09:37.180 So, yeah, you could be wrong in your subjective understanding of what is beautiful.

00:09:42.180 And so, I guess the last thing I'll say here is that it's definitely a way to disorient to say that, you know, even the ugliest thing can be beautiful because I say it is.

00:09:53.180 I mean, it's just not true.

00:09:55.180 You know that that's not true.

00:09:56.180 Yeah. And ultimately, I feel like it's all just a war on a healthy European society and values. 0.64

00:10:03.180 Right. Because we've always valued and beauty has always mattered to us, whether it's art or architecture, fashion, interior design, the machinery, the cars, the fabrics.

00:10:15.180 You know, there's such a part of Western civilization. 0.99

00:10:18.180 And now you see this degenerate, like, as you see here, this modern art being pushed, urinals, literal shit on a plate. 0.97

00:10:26.180 Like, this is being pushed in pop culture as though this is, like, something amazing and we should, like, be celebrating this now. 0.98

00:10:35.180 It's very, it's very incredibly subversive. 0.98

00:10:38.180 And I think, basically, the shit on the plate summarizes it. 0.99

00:10:42.180 It's like, they want to crap all over Western civilization and all the beauty that we have. 0.99

00:10:48.180 Well, again, you guys are showing on the screen here Marcel Duchamp.

00:10:51.180 And he's a perfect example of exactly that.

00:10:54.180 And I think there's actually a quote from him where he basically admits that he wants to destroy Western aesthetics.

00:11:02.180 Really?

00:11:03.180 Yes, and they also use language to do that, too, in a variety of different ways.

00:11:08.180 But basically, you know, putting a urinal in a gallery is a way to, it's sort of a joke.

00:11:15.180 It's that, oh, well, I can have a found object, a thing that I find, and there's no skill needed.

00:11:21.180 Once again, the, you know, egalitarianist nature of the art world is that you don't need to have skill.

00:11:27.180 You don't even need to have any roots and display those things.

00:11:30.180 In fact, that's what, you know, we would prefer.

00:11:34.180 And you can see how subversive that is because then everything is open to interpretation, which just means that we can degrade and hit at all of our roots and, you know, destroy them.

00:11:45.180 You also find, too, that these people are very anti-nature, anti the natural order and natural hierarchy of just what nature has created.

00:11:55.180 And nature has always been such an important part of art.

00:11:58.180 Can you discuss just a little bit about the relationship to art and nature, as we've seen in Western civilization?

00:12:05.180 Because we're seeing a lot less of that now as we're, you know, celebrating trannies and all that. 1.00

00:12:11.180 Yes.

00:12:12.180 Yeah.

00:12:13.180 Yeah.

00:12:14.180 That's a, that's a really good question.

00:12:15.180 So there's definitely a, it's, it's a bit complicated, but basically because of individualism, we have sort of this, it's, I call it navel gazing, where we're looking only at ourselves.

00:12:29.180 And so it's, it's me, me, me, it's my individual experience.

00:12:32.180 And when you do that, you go inward and you're not really looking out into the world.

00:12:36.180 You're, it's, it almost becomes for a lack of a better word, satanic, right?

00:12:42.180 Because, you know, honestly, in a way, Satan is really just ourselves.

00:12:46.180 It's, it's this, this hyper logos.

00:12:49.180 It's where you, you hyper focus on only the things that humans have developed and our perception of reality.

00:12:56.180 And that's why looking at nature is important that we actually look out into it and try to derive meaning and purpose from it.

00:13:04.180 Because it's our, it's our best possible teacher is, is nature.

00:13:08.180 So, so without question, that's something that's been removed.

00:13:12.180 And that's a complicated question.

00:13:13.180 It has to do with the Dionysian and, and, and the Apollonian sort of cultural differences throughout time.

00:13:20.180 But yeah, generally speaking, we've moved further away from nature and the divine to kind of, you know, have this almost a Reddit tier interpretation of things that if you can't measure it and, and it's not something that's provable by human standards.

00:13:38.180 There's no mystery in anything, which is what nature is, nature is mysterious.

00:13:43.180 You know, we really just only have ourselves to look at, which is why we're making art that doesn't, you know, it's not natural.

00:13:51.180 It's just a looking inward to our personal experience.

00:13:55.180 Yeah.

00:13:56.180 It's obviously a bad thing.

00:13:57.180 Yeah.

00:13:58.180 Yeah.

00:13:59.180 And, and you see that in like the, the architecture, this cuboid, this modern art, this cold, clean, modern lines, as they call it, and just stark whiteness.

00:14:10.180 I hate it too.

00:14:11.180 Come over to my house.

00:14:12.180 I'm surrounded by, you know, nature elements, paintings that incorporate nature or scrolly looking things or, you know, floral looking things.

00:14:20.180 I love like the old world kind of classic touch in, in furniture, for instance, it just makes your soul feel good.

00:14:27.180 It makes you feel better.

00:14:28.180 Yeah.

00:14:29.180 Like living in little boxes like that is not going to make us feel good.

00:14:33.180 Yes.

00:14:34.180 Yeah.

00:14:35.180 Roger Scruton, he actually talks about that too.

00:14:37.180 And how, you know, if you look at in his documentary, he talks about this, that a building that is more in tune with nature, you know, gets covered with vines, you know, these, these little, you know, like German villages and stuff like that.

00:14:52.180 They have a, there's like a harmony that they have with the nature that's around them.

00:14:57.180 Whereas a modern building, like the one he's standing in front of is, is almost like in denial of nature and it's not, it's, it's purely utilitarian.

00:15:06.180 So no one wants to go live in an area where the buildings are communistic and square.

00:15:11.180 Gulags.

00:15:12.180 Yeah.

00:15:13.180 But these liberals, these progressives, they love it.

00:15:15.180 They're tearing down this old stuff.

00:15:17.180 They're putting up all this ugly cuboid utilitarian soulless kind of stuff. 0.98

00:15:22.180 So it just tells me, okay, you are soulless.

00:15:25.180 If you could feel good living in that and be surrounded by like, you know, art that's just like paint splatters and these clean lines all around you.

00:15:35.180 It's just, oh, you know, I don't know any, I don't know any friends in my circle who like that.

00:15:41.180 Cause it really is telling of kind of what's going on internally.

00:15:44.180 Right.

00:15:45.180 It definitely does.

00:15:47.180 Yeah.

00:15:48.180 Like you said, it's, it's soulless and it's meant to not have any detail.

00:15:53.180 It's not meant to have any roots.

00:15:54.180 And I think that that's one of the biggest thing is that it uproots you.

00:15:58.180 You know, it's, it doesn't, it doesn't feel like home because there is no, um, uh, there's basically no group of people who have come together to make that thing.

00:16:07.180 It's like almost like a foreign entity has put this thing here and it's corporate.

00:16:11.180 And again, it's utilitarian.

00:16:13.180 No one's going to want to preserve that.

00:16:15.180 It basically has no meaning.

00:16:17.180 No.

00:16:18.180 It's lacking that.

00:16:19.180 It has the utility, right?

00:16:20.180 The ability to house you, but it doesn't have the ability to, uh, to inspire you.

00:16:24.180 No, when it comes to our, I like to go to like fine art.com or art.com and go, they have like a lot of old stuff too, you know, 15, 16, 17, 18 hundreds.

00:16:33.180 And you can get those things reprinted.

00:16:35.180 So you can find, you know, mythological paintings and, uh, all kinds of just paintings that make you feel, feel good.

00:16:42.180 Like some of the famous ones too, and you can get them reprinted on canvas and it looks amazing.

00:16:46.180 So I've done that for some of my favorites and there's a bunch more that I want, but let's talk about the Renaissance.

00:16:53.180 Cause I find that it's interesting.

00:16:54.180 Henrik and I have talked about this before.

00:16:56.180 Um, the Renaissance happened after the black plague, right?

00:16:59.180 Which was like half of Europe was wiped out.

00:17:02.180 So it was like this death and then this rebirth that created this inspirational and transformative time.

00:17:08.180 And then it was like, bang, all this like amazing art came out.

00:17:12.180 And I always think about that in terms of like now and what's happening.

00:17:16.180 Like maybe we need a black plague to bring back another.

00:17:25.180 What do you think about that?

00:17:26.180 Like the Renaissance period and like all the death before that. 0.77

00:17:30.180 I, I, I actually do agree with this, but also at the same time, I, I'm, I have a little bit of an opposition to that time period.

00:17:40.180 And I know that's kind of strange because I'm, I'm, I'm in a, you know, an art student.

00:17:45.180 And that's one of the main things that's pushed in, in, you know, art school is, oh, the Renaissance.

00:17:51.180 Well, yes, it was a revitalization and, and, you know, Europe was going through a tough time, but what preceded it was the Gothic era.

00:17:59.180 And I think there's a lot of really interesting, important things that are going on there.

00:18:02.180 If I, I actually just read a book by Julia Savula about the Holy Grail, and he talks about how it's around the time that the Knights Templar fail and they were burned up the stake by, you know, the, by the Pope, which is weird because, you know, a lot of pagans were also burned to the stake as we know.

00:18:24.180 Yeah.

00:18:25.180 There he, he says that this is kind of like a signal to the end of the, of the West.

00:18:30.180 And so the Renaissance is something that comes after and is, yes, a revitalization, but a revitalization of what, of, of Hellenism, of, of what the Greeks were doing.

00:18:42.080 And that's a complicated story, but, but basically what I'm alluding to here is that that culture is very secular and what that ends up leading to, and it's kind of the, almost the foundation for is kind of the mess that we're in.

00:18:56.600 So it's kind of strange because it happened slowly over time.

00:18:59.640 So I guess what I'm trying to say is that, you know, the, the Medici's were one of the biggest patrons of the arts during that time.

00:19:07.240 And they were very connected to bankers and, and it's kind of the setting the stones for the breaking down of civilization and the scientific revolution and then the enlightenment.

00:19:21.680 So it's, it is great, but it's also pros and cons there.

00:19:26.340 Yes.

00:19:26.740 And it's a mixed bag.

00:19:27.940 I mean, there was a lot going on.

00:19:29.300 Right.

00:19:29.620 But you definitely can't, can't deny the beauty in that time though.

00:19:33.140 I mean, there was beautiful creations and, and artwork.

00:19:36.620 And I'm sure, I mean, what would those people have thought about what today's art and today's society, you know?

00:19:45.280 Oh yeah.

00:19:45.700 I mean, yeah, it's a slow decline.

00:19:48.320 It's, it's a very slow decline of the West.

00:19:50.460 There are many different factors, but obviously during that time, people still understood with what beauty was there.

00:19:56.400 We weren't as, as far along, you know, as we are today.

00:20:01.800 So obviously they still were able to maintain that, but it's just that there was a, you know, a sort of liberal, you know, liberalism was kind of starting to develop during that time for complicated reasons.

00:20:15.740 Yeah. But, but we, there's no doubt that Rome produced and the Greeks produced some of the most beautiful sculpture that, that we have in the world.

00:20:25.600 So that is always a good thing that comes out of Hellenism.

00:20:29.840 I know we'll get into Rome and also how it's not gay, but what it, what does it mean to be part of the West? 0.85

00:20:37.860 Now you did a video on this too.

00:20:39.160 We, we hear that all the time, Western civilization, Western culture, Western society.

00:20:43.300 I mean, we use it too.

00:20:44.580 Now I know it's, it's kind of a, it's kind of complex, but how do we define the West as you talked about in your, in your video?

00:20:52.140 Cause I know definition of what is Western has changed.

00:20:55.620 Cause if you go back far enough, well, you'll get into that.

00:20:57.960 It was considered the, the barbarians were not Western, right?

00:21:01.860 Right.

00:21:02.700 Right.

00:21:02.980 And those are Germanic people and say that they're not a part of the West.

00:21:06.860 Obviously they are today.

00:21:08.320 So, you know, obviously it's a, it's a piece of terminology that, that, you know, historians use to kind of, you know, indicate that like civilization really kicked off during this time period,

00:21:21.780 which was, you know, the Roman era and, and really all that the West means, you know, from your standard definition is that you were from Rome or culture that came out of Rome.

00:21:34.640 And so as far as the barbarians are concerned, it gets a little complicated, but, you know, basically all that it meant was that a barbarian was not a person of Rome.

00:21:47.220 They didn't, they didn't live in Rome.

00:21:48.700 And of course, over time that developed a negative connotation.

00:21:53.080 You don't bathe, you're basically like a redneck, you have no manners and it's the complete opposite, by the way. 1.00

00:21:59.980 Well, well, no, it really is because the, you know, there's, there's this misconception about the barbarians that brought down Western civilization, right?

00:22:07.060 Those people were actually very noble, very upstanding, like Alric the barbarian.

00:22:11.780 The Romans at that point in time had degraded severely and the people in Rome didn't like being in Rome and they didn't like their leaders and actually welcomed the barbarians. 0.74

00:22:24.460 So, you know, it's, I guess what I'm, what I'm trying to allude to here is that the people that were up in the Northern region that weren't a part of Rome,

00:22:34.440 they would work for Rome and were even genetically similar to a lot of the people that were, you know, tribes that were living in Rome.

00:22:43.420 So it's, it's just a collection of merit, very many different people that, you know, are all generally speaking in what we know as Europe today.

00:22:53.780 So it's, it's just, it's just that this word, it has a particular use in ancient times that's kind of gotten this bad rap.

00:23:03.100 Yeah.

00:23:03.760 And it's, yeah, I think you understand what I'm saying.

00:23:06.480 Yes.

00:23:07.340 And then, and then nowadays you have like these anti-whites and even have it on the like conservative side of like, well, you know, it was many different races that built Western civilization.

00:23:19.380 This is not, this is not true.

00:23:21.800 Yes.

00:23:22.160 No, that's not what happened.

00:23:24.120 And if we're going to go just Rome, like Rome was white people, as much as they're trying to interject that there was all these blacks and all these people, that it was multiculturalism and all this, that is not true.

00:23:36.420 And, and we should get into this whole thing about Rome didn't fall in a day.

00:23:40.780 It wasn't paganism that for the reason for why it fell, it was pagan for all that time.

00:23:47.240 I mean, actually it was a Christian for a shorter period before it fell, but it was really multiculturalism at the end of the day that made it fall. 0.65

00:23:54.280 But what can you say about Rome not falling in a day and a little bit about Rome's history?

00:24:00.320 Yeah.

00:24:00.720 So Rome, obviously the decline of civilization happens slowly over time.

00:24:09.520 And of course, yes, you know, incorporating other groups of people into your civilization who don't have anything to do with it.

00:24:17.240 Can bring about the end of your civilization.

00:24:20.280 You know, from my understanding in Rome, people weren't, they were starting to speak their own languages that, you know, Rome wasn't being as strict as they should have been in, you know, making the Germanic people, you know, speak Rome and, you know, take on their customs.

00:24:42.160 And obviously that just makes sense that if you have this great civilization like Rome was, that, that if you want to keep it consistently going, you have to stick to the root of what made that thing successful.

00:24:56.760 And it was a particular tribe that, that, you know, kicked off that civilization. 0.99

00:25:03.160 And then over time that ended up, you know, everybody sort of lost the, the culture, the spirit of what it was to be Roman.

00:25:11.020 So, yeah, you know, you know, it's definitely not the same as what we're dealing with today, because obviously Germanic tribes and people in the Mediterranean have a lot of connection to one another.

00:25:23.960 The history is, is very intertwined because, you know, of the Vikings and stuff like that and the Phoenicians.

00:25:28.920 So, so, so, you know, to suggest that it's the same type of situation as what we're dealing with today, it is in the sense that, you know, any country, you know, throughout history, not just the Romans, that decided to take in foreigners, people who weren't invested in the culture or, you know, in history.

00:25:49.080 You know, of course, that's going to eventually lead to the decline of that civilization.

00:25:54.620 But to suggest that, you know, Africans have, you know, that, that it was multicultural in, in the way that we're multicultural now.

00:26:04.140 No, we all as Europe, European people all have sort of a root connection to one another, be it Roman or, you know, Germanic.

00:26:13.700 It's, it's all kind of connected.

00:26:16.920 Yes, absolutely.

00:26:17.980 It's, it's like America when they say, oh, it was a melting pot.

00:26:20.900 Well, it was a melting pot of European peoples and we already have some, a shared core values that we don't have to explain to one another as European peoples.

00:26:30.360 Just as, you know, Asian people have their things, Africans have their things, you know, Middle Eastern people have their things.

00:26:37.260 Like some of these, it's not really multiculturalism in the sense of today's multiracial multiculturalism.

00:26:45.620 And even then, when you have a bunch of white people, even with the different ethnicities, even then it's, it's issues, you know, it's problems and it's hard. 0.93

00:26:53.180 But at least it's our own problems, right?

00:26:55.380 Yes, it's our own problems.

00:26:57.440 Yes, we're, we're able to coexist amongst each other.

00:27:00.000 You know, obviously there are going to be little enclaves, even in a country that like disagree with each other.

00:27:04.720 And then that expands over time, you know, when you go outward, you know, then there's going to be a country that doesn't agree with you.

00:27:10.300 But generally speaking, we have a similar origin.

00:27:13.440 We come from the same Germanic tribes and, and have the same roots, ancient roots.

00:27:19.320 We don't have those same ancient roots with people from Africa.

00:27:23.540 That's, that's completely and entirely wrong.

00:27:26.720 Yes, yes.

00:27:28.160 And the first black Britain was not black. 0.97

00:27:30.820 Cheddar Man was a lie. 0.98

00:27:32.320 It turns out, the first black Britain was a woman from Cyprus.

00:27:35.180 You saw that?

00:27:35.760 It just came out.

00:27:36.700 It was just like, they just immediately jump on, oh, they had black skin, so they must be African. 0.99

00:27:41.060 You know, it's this total reconstruction, completely guessing all these things, just as another excuse to justify how we're not really native anywhere.

00:27:50.740 And therefore, anyone could come live there and have claim to it now.

00:27:54.900 Right, right.

00:27:56.720 No, that's the purpose.

00:27:58.020 Yeah, that is the purpose.

00:27:59.300 And they're rewriting history.

00:28:00.780 They'll even go far back, you know, with Rome, like all these movies that they're doing.

00:28:05.140 They're inserting and, you know, it's even Black Thor now, you know.

00:28:08.960 Yeah, to just inherit you from, yeah, from your claim to the land and to that history. 0.99

00:28:14.420 It's garbage. 1.00

00:28:15.080 Well, let's address this gay thing. 1.00

00:28:16.720 I know Leather Apron Club had a really good video about this.

00:28:19.600 And basically, most of these claims of rampant homosexuality come from, you know, rivals and adversaries. 0.78

00:28:26.640 And, of course, it's put into movies by our friends in Hollywood and continually pushed by liberal professors, many of whom who are gay. 0.70

00:28:33.820 So they love this idea of like, oh, the Romans were gay. 0.93

00:28:37.080 You know, it's all a Caligula, right? 0.99

00:28:39.600 And then today I even hear from some of those who are, unfortunately, who they say, oh, that's what pagans are. 0.99

00:28:45.880 They just, you know, they were all just homosexuals and doing drugs and that's why Rome fell. 1.00

00:28:50.820 No, that's all garbage. 1.00

00:28:52.160 Sure. 1.00

00:28:53.000 Were there gays that existed?

00:28:55.120 Sure.

00:28:55.440 But was it the norm?

00:28:56.840 No.

00:28:57.240 They'll take an exception.

00:28:58.820 They'll use it to push their agenda. 0.92

00:29:00.660 But Rome wasn't gay. 0.91

00:29:03.020 It wasn't, you know, multi-culti. 0.99

00:29:05.300 And gay men, I have to say, are not the foundation of Western civilization. 1.00

00:29:09.980 No, definitely not. 0.99

00:29:12.420 They did not build Rome.

00:29:14.080 Yes.

00:29:14.460 And Leather Apron Club made a fantastic video about it.

00:29:18.100 And, yeah, it's, okay, so looking at the culture that was developing, that ended up leading to Rome and made ancient Greece what it was, they were hypermasculine.

00:29:33.200 They actually, in a way, sort of had, you know, antagonism to the feminine.

00:29:39.420 And that's a complicated story, but to suggest that they had an embrace of the feminine to the point that they were homosexuals, it doesn't even make sense with what they believed in their customs.

00:29:52.280 They were very opposed to homosexuality for the reason that if you were acting like a woman, they considered you to be, like, the lowest of the low.

00:30:01.840 Nordics were like that, too.

00:30:02.740 Vikings as well.

00:30:03.680 Yeah.

00:30:04.140 Yes.

00:30:04.540 And there's a variety of reasons that are really complicated why the feminine ends up getting a really bad rap. 1.00

00:30:10.860 But, yes, that was something that started to develop in ancient Greece. 0.81

00:30:15.460 And so to suggest that they were gay and effeminate is basically the complete opposite. 0.85

00:30:21.300 It really is. 0.97

00:30:22.300 It could be further from the truth.

00:30:24.620 It's obviously a liberal lie to, you know, they know conservatives are going to be interested in that era, right?

00:30:30.880 Because it's traditional and it's, you know, our roots in Western civilization. 0.97

00:30:35.420 Well, what better way to, you know, ruin it than to say, oh, those people were just gay. 0.99

00:30:42.220 Let's defile it and slime it up, you know? 1.00

00:30:45.240 Yes.

00:30:45.840 Yes. 0.99

00:30:46.460 Just make it all gay. 1.00

00:30:48.360 I know. 0.93

00:30:48.960 Yes.

00:30:49.340 Speaking of that, I know this is a little tangent, but I heard, you know, I used to live in Seattle and the Seattle Space Needle.

00:30:56.860 Someone's like, don't go there anymore.

00:30:59.500 It's an unofficial gay bar now up there.

00:31:01.900 So it's like.

00:31:02.680 What?

00:31:03.040 That's a shame.

00:31:04.780 That is great. 0.99

00:31:05.400 The gays want to take over and claim everything. 1.00

00:31:08.000 What the heck, man? 1.00

00:31:08.940 Of course. 0.98

00:31:09.860 Oh, man.

00:31:10.360 So let's get into what does Europe mean?

00:31:13.400 I know Henrik did a presentation about this a long time ago.

00:31:16.300 Europa, the Phoenician goddess.

00:31:19.360 What can you say about her?

00:31:21.220 What's interesting about the Phoenicians?

00:31:22.760 Yeah.

00:31:23.280 So, you know, what I find fascinating about it is that when.

00:31:28.520 OK, so we have, you know, the term the West and that's kind of a marker for what, you know, you know, what we are.

00:31:34.700 We're the West.

00:31:35.940 And so that's marked by, you know, Rome.

00:31:39.380 Anything that was a part of Rome or is inspired by Romanization.

00:31:42.640 You know, Europa is, you know, it's even older.

00:31:48.980 It goes back to ancient Crete.

00:31:53.320 And they're basically considered to be the first Europeans, the Minoan civilization that was on Crete.

00:32:01.440 And one of their figures in mythology is the bull, is the Minotaur.

00:32:10.100 And in this kind of, you know, this story of Europa is that she's a Phoenician princess who gets swept away by a bull.

00:32:20.080 And that symbolism of the bull is really fascinating because in, you know, in we know Arianism is something that, you know, a lot of people are contending with.

00:32:30.340 Like, what was it to be Arian?

00:32:31.620 And that seems to be another rudimentary thing.

00:32:34.140 Well, the symbol of the bull is found wherever we go.

00:32:39.480 It is, you know, a symbol that you'll find in India even today that the highest caste in India, you know, why are Indians obsessed with bulls?

00:32:50.660 Well, the highest caste that's there who are whiter skin, who live up in the northern region, that they are represented as the bull. 1.00

00:32:59.440 And so that's kind of a remnant of, you know, one of our markers of having been there.

00:33:07.300 And so as far as, you know, Europa is concerned, yes, it's a Phoenician princess.

00:33:14.280 It's where the word Europe comes from.

00:33:17.080 It's the etymology of that word.

00:33:19.260 And so with it is the symbol of the bull and of this mythology and kind of explaining what sort of happened.

00:33:28.100 But yes, it's really key because, like I said, the first group of people that we denote, that historians denote as being Europeans, are the people from Crete, the Minoan civilization.

00:33:41.960 Yeah, and I've seen in some circles, unfortunately, where they're afraid of it.

00:33:45.420 They're like, oh, this is a cult or this is some pagan goddess.

00:33:49.340 So therefore, all of Europe is bad.

00:33:51.660 And they somehow connect it to the European Union, which the European Union has nothing to do with, like, caring about the future of Europe and protecting European interests and celebrating European culture, does it?

00:34:04.340 Yes, it's a very good symbol because wherever we go throughout ancient history, we look at how we were kind of influencing different areas throughout time.

00:34:16.080 We always, you know, were, we were raising bulls.

00:34:19.700 And so it's just that signifier.

00:34:21.720 It's definitely not a bad symbol.

00:34:24.020 And as far as it being related to the feminine, yeah, there's complicated things there and paganism and whatnot.

00:34:30.060 But yeah, I don't know if you want to talk about the Phoenicians, but yeah, the Phoenicians are also an interesting group of people that have a connection to, to Crete and are part of, you know, our story.

00:34:42.560 Yes.

00:34:42.900 And I think, I don't know, should that take us into Israel and Palestine?

00:34:47.720 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:49.260 Yeah, because this, this whole situation, right, regarding Israel and Palestine, it's revealed a lot for the West, as you mentioned in your video.

00:34:57.580 You know, we just kind of got over talking about what, what the West is, but Israel is not a European country today.

00:35:04.780 I see people calling it a white country.

00:35:07.200 How do you respond when they're calling Israel a Western or European or white, white country?

00:35:15.060 Well, I think it's, it's definitely incorrect and for complicated reasons.

00:35:21.280 Now, obviously in the very, very, very distant past, you could make a claim that we have a connection to the people who are now living in Israel that are known as Jews.

00:35:32.360 Well, there's this conflation between Christianity and Judaism that they're sort of the same thing.

00:35:40.500 And it's because of this ancient root that they have.

00:35:44.200 So, you know, the Tanakh and other, you know, works that, that these people were, were, you know, that they all had a connection to eventually became, you know, the Babylonian Talmud and, and the Bible.

00:35:59.040 But those things are, they've, they've kind of gone their separate ways.

00:36:03.060 One group of people who lived in the Northern Kingdom, which was called Israel, they ended up getting taken over by the Neo-Assyrian Empire.

00:36:16.640 And so they ended up getting taken into Europe, into Turkey, and then into Romania, they kind of spread about.

00:36:24.040 And they also, a lot of them ended up going into, you know, modern day Italy and, and becoming, you know, Hellenized.

00:36:31.260 So they went towards the West.

00:36:34.180 And so that's why Christianity ended up going that way and having an influence there.

00:36:38.180 And what's interesting is that the people in the South, in Judea, they were rivals to the people of, of ancient Israel. 0.52

00:36:48.320 And you'll, you'll see that they're, they're talked about as two separate entities, two separate entities.

00:36:54.660 And the reason why is because they were very culturally different.

00:36:58.140 They had massive disagreements, massive disagreements about, you know, who they should marry.

00:37:04.500 And, and, and also about, you know, what they believed in, what they worshiped.

00:37:10.160 And so they were fighting with one another.

00:37:12.520 They, they had conflicts.

00:37:14.500 And then, you know, once the, the Southern area of, you know, Judea ended up getting taken over by the Babylonians, 0.88

00:37:23.580 they ended up kind of becoming more Middle Eastern, I would say.

00:37:28.120 And that's why the Talmud is called the Babylonian Talmud.

00:37:31.820 And that's something that someone like Jesus, being, you know, Hellenized, living in the Levant. 0.59

00:37:37.980 And then you have these people from the Babylonian exile who are still part of the tribe of Judah,

00:37:43.440 but they're not, you know, they're obviously influenced by Babylon now.

00:37:47.820 They have a different influence.

00:37:49.640 And obviously the people who would become Christians were more Western.

00:37:53.920 Now, obviously during that time, there is no Western civilization.

00:37:57.240 These are all the, the, the roots that end up becoming Western civilization.

00:38:02.040 But they got taken up into Rome and they appreciated that influence.

00:38:07.540 Whereas the other group of people in the South, they were fine to go with Babylon and then a completely different direction. 0.98

00:38:14.140 So, yes, I, I don't think that they are, you wouldn't consider them to be Western technically,

00:38:21.020 but they like have this small little connection to us, I guess you could say.

00:38:26.120 Yes, they do.

00:38:26.560 There's, there's some connection or influence, but they have also been expelled from, I think,

00:38:30.820 109 countries, something like that.

00:38:33.220 Well, and that was, that was thousands, thousands of years ago.

00:38:35.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:36.380 So I think they were viewed differently even way back then, right?

00:38:41.060 Yes.

00:38:41.380 Well, well, yeah, and, and this was in ancient times.

00:38:45.180 This was a little bit after the Bronze Age collapse.

00:38:48.200 So, you know, this is all transpiring thousands and thousands of years ago.

00:38:52.740 And so there are many thousands of years of, of us going in different directions and really becoming different people at this point.

00:39:01.480 Yeah, absolutely.

00:39:02.580 And they, they see themselves differently.

00:39:04.160 I wanted to play because Zionism is just really rearing its head. 0.96

00:39:07.980 It's all the talk of the town right now, everywhere you go, it's, you know, Israel versus Palestine. 0.98

00:39:14.300 And it's just ridiculous. 0.81

00:39:16.060 First, I'm going to show this little tweet. 0.84

00:39:17.420 We've showed it before.

00:39:18.340 You're either on the white or the right side of history. 0.90

00:39:21.580 And there's the Israel flag on the left side.

00:39:24.580 I had, I had mentioned underneath.

00:39:27.220 It's like, if only the white side stood for the people of European descent, if only. 0.86

00:39:33.460 Also, Israel isn't a white European country.

00:39:35.420 Now, the flag's on the right or Congo, East Turkestan, Sudan, and Palestine.

00:39:39.960 You can leave the West and go live there if we're, we're just so evil.

00:39:45.080 Have you seen this one?

00:39:46.820 Yes.

00:39:48.180 Again, I couldn't agree more.

00:39:49.940 It's honestly, it's a false dichotomy.

00:39:51.920 They're, they're creating this, this argument that, oh, well, you have to pick either Palestine or you have to pick Israel.

00:39:58.900 And that's obviously, you don't have to, it has nothing to do with you, it has nothing to do with me, it has something to do with us.

00:40:04.760 And this group of people conveniently will shift when it, you know, suits their interest to be Westerners or to be something entirely different.

00:40:14.840 So I think we should trust them when they say that they are something separate from us because they're constantly telling us that until it's convenient to unify with us.

00:40:25.620 Yes, absolutely.

00:40:26.680 I think they want to use a lot of Christians to fight, to defend Zionism, but at the same time, they don't care about us. 0.88

00:40:33.040 Let me play this clip by Zionist Bill Maurer. 0.74

00:40:37.320 I mean, I remember being in England the first time in the 80s, and it was very different.

00:40:43.820 Yeah.

00:40:44.460 Very different.

00:40:45.540 How so?

00:40:46.260 Well, first of all, London was like all white. 1.00

00:40:48.580 Yeah.

00:40:48.860 Yeah, it was.

00:40:49.520 You know, so can we just celebrate that victory that we made in a place where we're diverse?

00:40:55.760 Look at that.

00:40:56.120 Can we just celebrate?

00:40:57.760 I mean, he's not calling for this kind of progress, open borders in Israel to bring them more diversity, multiculturalism, cultural enrichment, all those lies, and calling it progress. 0.83

00:41:08.000 He sits there and he's just so pompous and so arrogant.

00:41:11.060 It's just so annoying seeing this guy. 0.65

00:41:12.960 So obviously, he's seeing like us versus them here.

00:41:17.860 Oh, it's less white.

00:41:18.800 Isn't that great?

00:41:19.740 But then he's hardcore Zionist, right? 0.98

00:41:21.720 He wants to protect the interests of Israel, blood and soil when it comes to Israel. 0.90

00:41:25.180 But isn't it great that there's, you know, white people are a minority in London now?

00:41:30.700 Well, yeah.

00:41:31.600 And even more interesting is that he is supposedly an atheist.

00:41:37.400 And so people, you know, I actually was having a conversation with people on Twitter and they're like, no, no, he's Jewish, but he's not really Jewish.

00:41:45.340 He's an atheist.

00:41:46.360 And I had to explain that, you know, that is a racial identity and he is interested in his people, which is honestly the correct answer.

00:41:54.880 You should be invested in your people.

00:41:56.880 But despite being an atheist, you know, he's still interested in that group of people.

00:42:03.200 It doesn't matter that religiously he's not Jewish.

00:42:07.980 It's that he has a racial connection to that group of people because people will say that all the time.

00:42:13.140 Oh, no, you know, a liberal Jew is not a problem for us.

00:42:17.400 No, they love their people.

00:42:19.680 Just as any other group of people in this world has a love for their people, white people are the only ones that seem to have this outgroup preference. 0.60

00:42:29.040 But, yeah, it's completely disgusting that he would say that under the guise of progress. 0.51

00:42:35.860 Yeah. 0.66

00:42:36.440 I mean, you're advocating, well, no surprise, they are genocidal, what they're doing to Palestinians.

00:42:42.240 So, of course, they wouldn't think twice about it when it's in a white country either, right? 0.89

00:42:47.260 Oh, it's great.

00:42:48.320 Right.

00:42:48.820 You know, it's ethnically cleansed here. 1.00

00:42:51.040 This is great.

00:42:51.760 Or the people are being replaced.

00:42:52.720 Sure, they're not dropping bombs, but almost what we've had has been more subversive and happening through the decades in a sneaky, nefarious way.

00:43:03.540 It's almost easier if it's, like, in your face and someone's, like, pointing a gun at you and saying, yeah, I hate you.

00:43:08.080 I don't want to kill you versus some of the subversive ways we've seen where, you know, these scholars are trying to convince white people why they should be replaced and why they shouldn't hate themselves and why they should open the doors to letting everyone live in their country.

00:43:24.880 Yeah, yeah, I definitely think, and that's well said, that there are groups of people that, you know, this tribe that, you know, Bill hails from that have used, you know, not, you know, physical force and weaponry because, you know, the West was so, you know, stable in that regard.

00:43:48.560 And they've definitely used art and they've definitely used art and media and a sort of persuasion to convince people and undermine, you know, their ancestral roots and convince them, you know, that they should be nihilist and that there's no point, you know, of existing.

00:44:09.060 And so, yeah, it's definitely happened in a very slow kind of boil the frog sort of manner.

00:44:16.220 It's not in your face because I don't think that they could really deal with us in that way.

00:44:20.840 No, no.

00:44:21.840 Yeah, but it's about culture, right?

00:44:25.060 Let's let's get into that because culture influences politics and there has been a lot of subversive activities, you know, hijacking our culture.

00:44:33.840 It's why people say it's a culture war, a case for culture.

00:44:37.860 Now, ethnicity, in my view, is the foundation of culture, right?

00:44:41.140 This is in a big way shapes our identity, not all of it, but in a big way.

00:44:45.220 It's what unites us.

00:44:47.260 It helps us understand each other and function as a society.

00:44:50.640 Culture includes what language and ideas and beliefs and customs, mythology, codes of conduct, rituals, holidays, ceremonies, everything, right?

00:45:01.760 You have different cultures throughout the world and it's tied to ethnic peoples, right?

00:45:07.140 Distinct ethnic peoples.

00:45:08.560 They are the root of where that culture was born from.

00:45:11.880 I've traveled around the world.

00:45:13.220 I have seen all kinds of different cultures.

00:45:15.380 You can't tell me that there isn't a white culture, right? 0.94

00:45:19.100 And we would say white because, well, they view us as white.

00:45:22.440 We may be Swedish.

00:45:23.600 We may be German.

00:45:25.040 I mean, Slavic, Celtic.

00:45:27.340 It doesn't matter.

00:45:27.820 They just see us as white, but we do have our own culture, our European culture.

00:45:32.880 Now, in your view, what is culture and why is it so important?

00:45:38.240 Why are we talking about this so much right now?

00:45:41.100 Yes, yes.

00:45:42.080 I think people are really starting to realize what you just alluded to there, that it's the spirit of a group of people,

00:45:50.500 that, you know, all of these different ways of communicating through visual format or through, you know, a mythos that we're all connected to each other.

00:46:01.200 It's sort of a glue that binds us.

00:46:03.660 And so that, you know, culture is really the collective spirit of a people.

00:46:09.240 It's like the zeitgeist.

00:46:12.800 And so that spirit, if it's tampered with or isn't kept up, you know, like look at the Egyptians. 1.00

00:46:21.780 They're a really good example of a group of people that had a very specific culture.

00:46:25.980 And they did that for thousands of years and were very successful because they remembered who they were.

00:46:31.840 They had a lot of culture to constantly reaffirm who it is that they were.

00:46:39.120 And so that's why something like, you know, ancient Greek sculpture ends up revitalizing.

00:46:45.600 And we remember who we are.

00:46:46.780 It's because these different forms of communication and art are the thing that make up our culture, remind us of what our spirit is.

00:46:58.140 So, yeah, that's it's important because once you lose that and once that's degraded, then a collective dies.

00:47:06.900 Because what's really binding us together?

00:47:09.380 It's our shared experience.

00:47:11.860 It's our shared taste in things of how we like to live.

00:47:15.980 So if we break those things down and we don't continue to, you know, make the same art or we don't continue to have the same customs, the West doesn't exist because the West isn't just, you know, a physical place.

00:47:33.580 It's obviously a certain group of people with a certain collective spirit.

00:47:37.500 And so that's really why I would say culture is and why it's important.

00:47:40.600 Yeah, well, we're seeing the erasure, the destruction of our culture.

00:47:44.380 We're seeing statues coming down, right?

00:47:46.680 We're seeing them trying to rewrite our stories in the forms of visual visually, right, with movies, because that's what people remember when they think of history, right?

00:47:56.140 It's like, oh, I saw that movie and then it registers.

00:47:58.460 That's the sad truth, right?

00:48:00.080 Because people don't read.

00:48:01.740 And then some of the books you want them to read, maybe they don't have access to anymore or they're banned.

00:48:06.260 But is the war on our culture, do you think it's too far gone or can we stop it?

00:48:15.220 Well, definitely not.

00:48:17.840 I'm not blackpilled about it at all.

00:48:19.340 I think that there are cycles.

00:48:21.280 And, you know, as you alluded to earlier about the Renaissance, though I have my criticisms of the Renaissance,

00:48:27.020 we go through a, you know, a cycle where we kind of have a decline and then we revitalize the best elements of our culture and, you know, get back on track.

00:48:42.340 And so I know that we can do it because we've done it in the past.

00:48:47.380 And it really just takes being confident in our ancestors, because one of the things that's been done is that it's been, you know, the past has been deemed, you know, erroneous.

00:49:03.240 That there's sort of been a secularization of mythology and legend of understanding the past.

00:49:10.260 And so I think it really will just take embracing what our traditions are and what our ancestors told us about who we are.

00:49:21.060 And, of course, you know, not letting someone else write our stories for us, because that's what's happened with Hollywood,

00:49:29.060 is that there was a shift from one group of people to another to tell our stories.

00:49:34.900 And, of course, you know, it's obviously been not in favor of us, and it's been sort of putting doubt in people's mind that maybe the past wasn't what we thought it was,

00:49:44.540 and that, you know, our ancestors were lying to us.

00:49:47.000 So I think it really just takes not letting these people determine what we determine to be the past.

00:49:57.400 We need to not be on their terms of what we define as myth or legend or actual history, and we just take it back for ourselves.

00:50:11.520 That's really just the problem, is that, you know, we are not in control of the narrative right now.

00:50:19.100 Yeah, we're letting other people who hate us write our own stories or teach our kids.

00:50:24.600 I mean, think about the statue that was recently taken down of Robert E. Lee.

00:50:30.800 Why was this African-American woman in possession of that sculpture? 1.00

00:50:37.020 Like, why did we let that happen?

00:50:38.540 Why don't we have our own people, you know, taking care of that statue and preserving it?

00:50:45.460 How did that happen?

00:50:46.460 That's because we're no longer in control of our culture.

00:50:51.080 No, no.

00:50:52.360 And by the way, that park where he once stood, Robert E. Lee, is now full of homeless people, tents and drugs and people pooping in the grass.

00:51:03.040 Of course it is.

00:51:04.020 It's very symbolic, isn't it?

00:51:05.780 Very symbolic.

00:51:06.440 It all comes down to, like, poop on the plate.

00:51:09.400 Like, if I can summarize, you know, that modern art just really summarized everything right now and, like, the end goal of everything here.

00:51:18.120 I could not agree more.

00:51:21.420 Well, yes, it's quite sad.

00:51:23.080 Yes.

00:51:23.460 I think that the root of all our problems today, like what we've been talking about, is the destruction of European ethnic folk culture and history.

00:51:34.420 What do you think?

00:51:35.640 I mean, really, that's the root because they've been, you know, we've been convinced that we're this horrible thing.

00:51:41.540 And so we just don't care about, you know, preserving these things anymore or defending or honoring it.

00:51:46.780 Yeah, yeah, we've been convinced that we've been lied to and that, you know, there's almost like this lie of freedom, which is really strange, that we have become more free having untethered ourselves from the past, which isn't true.

00:52:05.580 So under the guise of freedom and progress, that we're moving somewhere new and somewhere better, which isn't the case.

00:52:13.300 We've abandoned all of these, all of this ancient wisdom, all of this tradition that, you know, let's say you're in a forest.

00:52:22.880 Would you be able to navigate a forest without, you know, a compass and a map?

00:52:29.060 Well, that's basically what we've done is we've decided, okay, well, the map and the compass that our ancestors gave us, that they were wrong, that it lies to us.

00:52:41.020 And so it's basically treating these things that have been worked on over time, this wisdom that's been passed on to us, that it's false or evil.

00:52:51.860 And, you know, that, oh, we're free now that we don't have those constraints.

00:52:55.840 But that's not the case.

00:52:57.100 We're actually more free by having the map and the compass, if that makes any sense.

00:53:04.020 Oh, that's right.

00:53:04.740 Oh, absolutely.

00:53:05.540 It's just like people being dependent on technology or where AI is going.

00:53:09.660 Are they really empowered and free when they're not going to know how to do anything and they've just relied on a computer to do everything for them and then that computer dies?

00:53:18.400 Right.

00:53:18.860 So, yeah, you're exactly right.

00:53:20.360 Now that they've convinced you that these important things that were gifted to you by your ancestors, a way of understanding reality and knowing, oh, well, you know, here's a moral code or something.

00:53:33.780 Oh, well, that's all wrong.

00:53:34.900 Well, okay, now you've just opened the door not to be free, but to be controlled by someone else.

00:53:40.140 Exactly.

00:53:40.360 Now, yeah, so it's a complete lie.

00:53:43.540 No, that's why I think like ancient philosophy, religions, mythology and knowledge, the spirituality, we can't let that fade away.

00:53:51.960 And I think those in control want that to fade away because they know it is so important for us for like true liberation, right?

00:53:58.680 For true enlightenment and if you don't have those things, you're not grounded in something real and timeless and truthful and classic and ancient and then you are easily manipulated and controlled and then it turns into ghetto rap culture, right? 0.91

00:54:14.660 And it's like that's all I see anymore is like ghetto rap culture. 0.98

00:54:18.220 I even see like old ladies listening to this crap in their car. 0.99

00:54:21.260 I'm like, do they really like it? 0.99

00:54:23.720 And you go to malls, you go to restaurants, you go everywhere you go.

00:54:27.900 It's like ghetto rap culture is now mainstream. 0.86

00:54:31.000 I remember when this was like the trashy kids listen to that.

00:54:34.820 You know what I mean?

00:54:35.860 Like the kids in the trailer park might have listened to that kind of ghetto music or whatever.

00:54:40.840 Now it's just like, oh, it's mainstream.

00:54:42.420 Do you think most people really actually like that? 1.00

00:54:45.960 I mean, are they really that dumb? 0.99

00:54:50.940 That's a complicated one. 0.99

00:54:52.460 I would definitely say that the masses, if you will, definitely will listen to the hegemon.

00:55:01.520 I mean, we're going on 25 years or so of rap being the main.

00:55:09.160 It doesn't go away.

00:55:10.500 Like this is it.

00:55:11.160 It doesn't.

00:55:11.760 This is it.

00:55:12.380 They act like it's new.

00:55:13.360 They act like it's new and it's not.

00:55:15.200 It's been around for 25 years and I'm sick and I'm tired of it.

00:55:19.040 And I do think, I do think even though people are persuaded by, you know, oh, billboard top 100 is saying or what, you know, the people in power suggesting to people in the media that is good.

00:55:30.840 You know, like, you know, Nicki Minaj or something like that.

00:55:33.940 Despite that, I do think that people who are European or white are getting really tired of this. 0.56

00:55:40.200 And, you know, obviously people, even though they're persuaded by these entities, they still understand what beauty is.

00:55:49.180 People instinctually still know when they see something that they love.

00:55:52.020 So something that's interesting that's happened is that at least young white kids are really interested in K-pop.

00:56:00.500 And that's kind of a scapegoat because it's not cool to like white culture.

00:56:04.840 But you can do it if it's Korean.

00:56:07.280 So if the Koreans are dressing like white boys and they have bleached blonde hair and, you know, like blue eye contacts and are dressing European and, you know, are using all of those traditional instruments, suddenly it's okay. 0.99

00:56:20.120 So obviously, even though people are accepting that culture, almost like as a virtue signal, that of rap, they still long for European aesthetics, but just not if the white person's doing it.

00:56:32.460 Well, in those rap videos, they love the fine European cars and the clothes and the bling, you know, they love all the fine sheet that we make, you know. 0.98

00:56:42.140 Yeah, I mean, American culture sucks, right?

00:56:45.920 And this is what happens when you lose memory of all the cool, old, ancient stuff. 0.99

00:56:51.120 This is what happens when you open the doors to, you know, foreigners. 1.00

00:56:55.840 And not all these people were brought here through slavery, by the way.

00:56:58.800 There was only like, what, 400,000 African slaves by a few merchants, really.

00:57:03.640 So like a lot of these came later, right?

00:57:06.940 And it's just like, it just doesn't go away.

00:57:09.520 It's like globalists have decided, like, this is where they wanted to stop, you know?

00:57:14.620 This is it. 0.99

00:57:15.560 But, but, yeah, this woman, screw it. 1.00

00:57:18.440 What are you doing? 1.00

00:57:19.160 Humping a goose?

00:57:20.160 That poor goose is called animal control. 0.68

00:57:23.240 Like, what the heck?

00:57:23.840 It always ends up being like in the jungle, you know, except in Chicago.

00:57:29.660 Yes, yes.

00:57:30.600 But at the same time, I think there's going to be a huge backlash. 0.99

00:57:33.180 The people are sick and tired of this shit, too, you know, where they're going to want, like, beauty and aesthetics and things that sound pleasing. 0.98

00:57:40.660 I have a friend that's an interior designer, and she said that she's seeing the trends, and she deals with people, like, high-end also, seeing the trends of people getting tired of the modern, cold, clean lines and, like, a resurgence of a lot of the old world type of stuff. 0.99

00:57:58.420 So she's seeing that, you know, it's, there's always been levels of that on the high end, but now we're seeing it, like, in the mid-end, you know, more like upper-middle class people who are, like, wanting to go back to that.

00:58:08.560 And I was like, oh, I saw that as, like, a little good glimmer of, glimmer of hope of people getting sick and tired of all this other stuff.

00:58:15.520 Definitely, definitely.

00:58:16.660 And I wouldn't, I wouldn't even say that, you know, like, that that's Western culture, that's American culture.

00:58:23.860 Unfortunately, it has become American culture.

00:58:26.300 But, you know, what they've done is they've taken something that was once very good, you know, the people who came to this country, you know, had a vision for what they wanted this land and this country to be like.

00:58:40.220 And unfortunately, we're now, you know, forced to accept what was on the screen just there a couple seconds ago.

00:58:46.980 No, that's a good point.

00:58:48.040 American culture used to be, I mean, I think of, like, cowboys and barbecues and discovery and innovation and invention, like, all these cool things that there were so many European Americans that just brought the world so much, you know, it's like the age of invention and discovery.

00:59:06.440 And, like, that forever is, you know, in my mind, like, American culture, it fostered that, right?

00:59:12.460 There was a sense of freedom and come claim your land and build your homestead and dream big.

00:59:18.400 And that's what it used to be.

00:59:20.840 Yes, yes.

00:59:21.520 But to go back to your main point, it's, you know, you can even see in early America that, you know, despite having all of those good values and, you know, there was a lot of turmoil in Europe, you know, lots of revolutions were happening.

00:59:36.880 And people decided to come here and live a simpler lifestyle.

00:59:40.220 But one of the things that they did, you know, the Protestants, if you go to a Protestant church or you look at the Mennonites, their churches are completely void of art. 0.97

00:59:49.920 They actually almost have, you know, they hate aesthetics.

00:59:54.340 Yes.

00:59:54.700 And so, like, while I understand.

00:59:56.060 Blogging yourself.

00:59:57.280 Everything's a sin. 0.64

00:59:58.260 I can't look good.

00:59:59.240 I can't be beautiful.

01:00:00.260 I can't wear lipstick.

01:00:01.440 Like, oh, my God.

01:00:02.300 Right.

01:00:02.900 And while I understand that, it's also one of the reasons, like you mentioned, that, you know, we in America are not focused on our roots.

01:00:12.340 We basically have hardly any indicators of our European ancestry.

01:00:16.360 And the way that that's communicated, and this is why culture is important, is through, like, if you go to Europe, it's really hard to not be European because you can see around you the buildings are constantly.

01:00:26.940 It's old, it's been there a while, it's established, right?

01:00:29.560 We're still a newer nation.

01:00:31.380 Yeah.

01:00:32.140 Yeah.

01:00:32.440 And so here, because we basically, you know, started off with too much simplicity, I would argue, and a kind of a denial of culture.

01:00:43.620 Well, I mean, when you deny something, you kind of allow, like, the negative aspect of that thing to come rushing in.

01:00:50.580 And I think that that's kind of the trajectory of America.

01:00:53.660 Like, we almost kind of denied our roots, and now we are even, like, more rootless than ever.

01:00:59.360 Yeah.

01:00:59.940 And then people are like, well, why did, you know, haters say, well, why did Europeans have to come or whatever?

01:01:05.120 And then, oh, religious freedom.

01:01:06.480 Well, blame religion, then.

01:01:08.460 Blame religion. 0.80

01:01:09.960 Don't blame them.

01:01:10.640 Well, the argument for that, that, like, the Indians were the first people that came here and they have more of a claim to the land than we do.

01:01:19.200 Okay, that's not how civilization works.

01:01:21.380 That's not, you know, the way that things work is that, you know, this, this, there wasn't even a country here.

01:01:27.380 There was basically open land with some tribes.

01:01:29.760 Some nomads running around.

01:01:30.940 They were killing each other, too.

01:01:32.060 It wasn't a big kumbaya offense.

01:01:33.860 Exactly.

01:01:34.780 There were no roads.

01:01:35.880 There was no country.

01:01:37.640 We made the country.

01:01:39.340 Yes. 0.96

01:01:39.500 So, like, the argument is ridiculous. 0.76

01:01:42.480 And then it's like, okay, if we're invaders, then what makes it okay for all of you to come live here, then, and enjoy the fruits of what the invaders built, you know?

01:01:51.160 And then, of course, we can go back farther with, like, the Solitrean hypothesis and all of that.

01:01:56.500 And most American Indians today are admixture.

01:01:59.860 They have European DNA as well.

01:02:01.760 So, but it's like, how far back do you want to go?

01:02:03.600 Who was first?

01:02:04.420 Well, how far back?

01:02:05.540 We can uproot the whole planet doing this who was first here on the land.

01:02:09.040 Like, history is full of war and conquests and taking land.

01:02:13.580 But what's happening today is different because it's people from within that are turning against their own people to give away the land.

01:02:20.620 And we can't, like, fight old school like cowboys used to, you know?

01:02:24.940 Yeah.

01:02:25.240 Fight properly on the field or whatever, you know?

01:02:28.100 Well, and you and I aren't, we're not Native American.

01:02:30.640 We don't benefit at all.

01:02:32.320 Like, the nature of reality is brutal.

01:02:34.220 We've been very nice to this group of people.

01:02:35.960 We've actually given them land where other groups of people would just completely slaughter them.

01:02:39.320 Yes.

01:02:39.840 We've actually been very, very accommodating to this group of people.

01:02:43.780 But, of course, we are going to choose ourselves over other groups of people.

01:02:48.140 It doesn't benefit me to, you know, give them everything.

01:02:52.880 I mean, we're not the same group of people.

01:02:54.800 That's the nature of, you know, human existence is you have to stand up for your claim to exist and to have land.

01:03:02.540 Or else nobody's going to do that for you.

01:03:04.680 That's right.

01:03:05.960 That's right.

01:03:07.220 So, we have a big job because we, today, I think it's important, the work that you do as well.

01:03:13.980 And you're looking into history and art and all these things and sharing that with people.

01:03:19.280 Because we have to cultivate these things and nurture the cultural tree, our culture tree, if you will, for future generations.

01:03:26.960 And it's a huge job, right?

01:03:29.300 And then some people say, well, our culture is vast.

01:03:31.680 So, which era do we embrace?

01:03:33.480 Well, what do you say about that?

01:03:34.460 Because for me, I always say, well, whatever speaks to you.

01:03:37.220 And, of course, you pull from your own ethnic roots. 0.70

01:03:40.220 Right?

01:03:40.420 What do you say?

01:03:42.840 Good question.

01:03:43.940 Good question.

01:03:44.940 Yeah.

01:03:45.580 So, I think the, probably the best lead that I have is that German romanticism would be the direction that we would all want to go in.

01:04:00.520 Because they seem to really have everything sort of checked out.

01:04:05.960 They're considering everything.

01:04:07.340 It's very balanced.

01:04:08.840 So, they would be pulling even from ancient Mesopotamia.

01:04:13.080 You know, someone like Richard Wagner was very well studied in basically every piece of mythology.

01:04:20.300 He would touch on the things that happened in the Near East.

01:04:23.020 He would touch on, you know, elements in Hellenism.

01:04:26.700 But then also would, you know, imbue the mythology with stuff about, you know, Odin or Wotan.

01:04:33.440 So, there's something about romanticism and about putting the mystery back in everything.

01:04:39.620 And kind of reconnecting with the divine in everything in your life that we've sort of been missing in the West for quite some time.

01:04:48.180 So, I think that all of the influences that the German romanticists that were trying to revitalize the spirit of Europe during their time.

01:04:58.480 Because enlightenment had basically taken the life out of everything.

01:05:02.840 And they were becoming, you know, rootless.

01:05:05.840 I think that that's the biggest lead.

01:05:07.980 And that would be the biggest inspiration for me and where I see myself going.

01:05:13.140 I like that.

01:05:14.040 Well, and we're not saying return to the past.

01:05:16.180 We live in the here and now.

01:05:17.700 I've said this.

01:05:18.380 I've heard you say this, too.

01:05:19.220 We're not saying go back to being a 1950s housewife, right?

01:05:22.740 It's not about, it's about not forgetting, like, where your people come from.

01:05:28.020 And I always wonder, are we capable of creating art or stories or mythology today that will be viewed as classical in the future?

01:05:37.420 You know, something that incorporates new mythologies and art to remind future generations of the struggles that we went through, our generations now, so that they don't forget.

01:05:49.000 You know, now we have the Internet, you know, which is vast.

01:05:51.700 And so those things can be recorded.

01:05:53.100 But it's like, is it possible to create classics now?

01:05:56.240 We don't know if they're classics, but maybe hundreds of years from now they'll be viewed as classics.

01:06:00.560 I know.

01:06:00.840 What do you think?

01:06:01.480 Yeah, we've most certainly done it before in the past.

01:06:05.360 And there's always a group of people who are unique, like Richard Wagner is a good example, or Homer.

01:06:13.420 And these people have just this drive to, you know, figure out and, you know, like, mythologize our past and create this story and help revitalize culture.

01:06:26.300 That's something that's something that always happens.

01:06:28.220 And these people, honestly, right now are just not being encouraged to do that.

01:06:33.620 But once those people have the go ahead and we understand culturally where we're supposed to head, we have at least, you know, a semblance, understanding of who it is that we are, because that's been so eroded.

01:06:47.240 I have absolutely no doubt that we're going to start making, you know, some true classics.

01:06:53.960 It's a cycle.

01:06:54.980 We are, you know, we go through different phases where we're, you know, in a low, and then we have to, you know, you know, get back together with other people and decide, okay, well, what are we really?

01:07:07.340 So I definitely think it's possible.

01:07:09.040 And actually, I think the internet, yes, can be a bad thing.

01:07:12.400 But you can see how powerful a meme can be, or a tweet can be if you just, like, hit on the right energy.

01:07:18.980 And the moment that we start figuring out this spirit, this zeitgeist of who it is we really are, and someone talented comes along and decides, you know what, I want to do something vitalistic and life-affirming, as opposed to something that's nihilistic and postmodern, which is where all the artists are centering their attention right now.

01:07:36.540 And, like, in the liberal realm, once somebody with actual real talent decides to take up that route and seriously pursues it, no question.

01:07:49.120 Yeah, you're right. Some memes can be classic. I could see, like, 50 years from now. I could see being an old lady looking back and be like, look at this.

01:07:58.740 It summarized exactly what we were going through perfectly. It's not the most beautiful art, but it's, like, it's still classic.

01:08:06.560 Yes, that thing's not going anywhere.

01:08:09.140 There's one story that's very popular, and you have a new video coming out exploring gothic culture, which I also am interested in.

01:08:17.140 And it's the legend of King Arthur, right, and the Grail. So why is this story so popular? This one seems to never go away.

01:08:26.680 Yeah, it doesn't, and it's remarkable that it doesn't. And obviously, during its time, it was very powerful.

01:08:34.480 And I think the reason why it sticks around is because there's a truth to it, and that's why, you know, the Iliad and the Odyssey is something that still sticks out to us to this day.

01:08:47.540 Or Lord of the Rings, which was inspired by Richard Wagner's Ring Cycle.

01:08:53.260 There are certain mythos that's formed that is almost more true than history.

01:09:01.540 And it's this ability to take the past and amplify all of the aspects of it that are important, because history is basically a recounting of the past that's very secularized.

01:09:15.120 You kind of remove, it's, like, very mathematical, if you will. It's very scientific.

01:09:19.460 But when you properly mythologize something that happened in the past, it can echo through the ages, you know, forever.

01:09:29.380 And so this particular story is one that, you know, during the medieval era, communicated something really important to people about, you know, your lineage, and was very life-affirming.

01:09:45.940 And in terms of, you know, enlightenment, its meaning sort of changed over time what it meant to be enlightened.

01:09:53.360 But the story of the Holy Grail kind of gives us an insight into what that used to mean.

01:09:59.940 So, yeah, it's popular just because I think it's so true.

01:10:04.620 There's obviously something true about it.

01:10:07.320 Yeah, and it's always the quest for eternal life, right?

01:10:13.160 Yes.

01:10:13.720 Use and vitality, and there's something transformational about that, alchemical.

01:10:20.020 And I think we all want that journey, right?

01:10:22.300 This can't just be it, right?

01:10:24.340 We want more.

01:10:25.620 We want to evolve into something greater.

01:10:27.780 And I want that personally, and I want that for our, you know, ethnic racial family as well, right?

01:10:34.720 I think that there's also a spiritual reason why we're here and why we exist.

01:10:40.700 And it's not just to, you know, go view poop on a plate in some calories.

01:10:45.760 Yes, yes.

01:10:47.080 And so I actually think that, exactly, you know, the narratives and the mythos that we have today takes us away from that.

01:10:54.880 And it's interesting that people during, you know, the medieval era, they were intrigued by this mythology of the Holy Grail and the Knights of the Round Table.

01:11:02.980 And it was very life-affirming.

01:11:05.040 And so I really do think that we can gain some insights from that mythology.

01:11:10.000 And maybe it's something that needs to be re-mythologized and, you know, told to our children so that they can, you know, understand why that quest is important.

01:11:19.180 Because now that we've abandoned that, I mean, you know, we're, you know, letting all of these people from the third world in. 1.00

01:11:26.160 And it seems that those people understood that family was important and that lineages in your bloodlines were a very, very, very important thing.

01:11:35.080 Absolutely.

01:11:35.760 And other people believe this.

01:11:38.040 All kinds of other people on the planet believe this.

01:11:40.660 We're not unique to believe this.

01:11:43.000 Now, in your view, last question, what are ways that you think we can uphold our culture, our ancestors in our modern era?

01:11:52.780 Because this is important to me.

01:11:54.100 It's a form of resistance by upholding our true, you know, culture and our ancestors and not forgetting them.

01:12:00.540 Yes.

01:12:00.940 Yes.

01:12:01.220 Good question.

01:12:03.000 I think it's really the children.

01:12:07.300 Those are, you know, the people that are really being targeted the most.

01:12:11.440 You'll see the BBC making this erroneous claim that Black people had this big part in British, you know, history when they did it.

01:12:22.720 Why are they doing that?

01:12:23.900 They're doing that because they know that it's the children that are the most persuadable.

01:12:29.740 So if we're going to, you know, revitalize our culture and we're going to, you know, rekindle the spirit of Western civilization, it's going to be reclaiming all of our institutions or making our own.

01:12:45.880 Understanding that culture, understanding that culture, not looking at art as entertainment and to be more mindful of that consumption.

01:12:54.220 But then, yes, you know, using art as a means to help children understand what their past was and and to tell them these important stories.

01:13:05.860 And I think it's honestly just focusing on them and imbuing them with the right values that will end up, you know, saving the West because, you know, they're the future.

01:13:19.160 You should create a fine arts crash course for the School of the West.

01:13:25.000 Oh, thank you.

01:13:26.220 That would be cool.

01:13:26.760 No, I think that would be great for like homeschoolers to have as part of their, you know, education, their their toolkit.

01:13:33.180 If you want to, I think that would just be awesome because it's like most of us, we you know, we don't know like all of art history and like where do you begin and all that.

01:13:40.800 But that would be something that's really needed, I think.

01:13:44.460 Yes, I actually create a course.

01:13:46.280 Yes, I'll have to put you in touch with them.

01:13:48.220 Tell us about your new video podcast series.

01:13:51.220 I know you're kind of examining the current state of Western civilization, exploring how modern liberalism and all these woke narratives are influencing and demoralizing and controlling our identity.

01:14:02.780 Tell us about what you've got going on and how people can find you.

01:14:05.280 Um, well, yes, I have a YouTube channel and it's, it's kind of a silly, it's kind of a silly art project.

01:14:15.260 But at the same time, it is informative.

01:14:17.240 And I like to do things in, you know, an unconventional manner because, you know, censorship, you know, when I started the channel was really kicked up a notch.

01:14:26.960 And so I like to address things in a more subtle manner.

01:14:32.120 Uh, but, but yeah, I, I just, honestly, I don't know anything about that.

01:14:36.620 The channel is just generally speaking, a kind of more subtle way, uh, to, to talk about these really complicated questions and really just address, you know, who it is that we are.

01:14:48.480 Why are we having these problems in relation to culture?

01:14:52.920 Because politics is important.

01:14:54.240 It is.

01:14:55.260 But I think it's politics that's downstream of culture.

01:14:58.880 And I've known this for quite some time.

01:15:00.760 And so if you're able to change the culture and understand it and talk about it properly, then, you know, people will vote, uh, correctly.

01:15:10.620 So that's kind of the aim is to, is to touch on identity.

01:15:14.720 And that's what my channel kind of does, it has to do.

01:15:18.020 I love those little TV segments.

01:15:19.980 That's kind of fun.

01:15:21.160 Oh, thank you.

01:15:22.660 A little acting going on in there too.

01:15:24.500 And it's fun.

01:15:25.000 You have to be creative.

01:15:25.920 You have to think outside the box.

01:15:27.440 You have to be artistic, different, you can't just come at this and like, be just like dry and to the point, totally serious all the time, you know.

01:15:34.760 We're the normies.

01:15:35.900 Yes.

01:15:36.520 Yeah.

01:15:36.760 You have to find like, yeah, exactly.

01:15:38.480 You have to find like roundabout ways, interesting ways to convey these topics.

01:15:43.980 Like, you know, cause you, there's a, white people are, uh, interesting, you know, all kinds of different ways that they need to be reached, you know, all kinds of different personalities and weird little hangups. 0.69

01:15:55.680 Yes.

01:15:56.120 And it's valuable to be direct.

01:15:58.100 It 100% is, but it's also valuable to, to have a different approach for people that, you know, kind of need to, uh, to have the, the, the seed planted, if you will.

01:16:08.420 And kind of think that they're the ones who came up with the idea.

01:16:11.440 Some people are like that.

01:16:13.380 It's a healthy subvert, well, subversive, subversive, not really subversive.

01:16:18.320 I think it's a good, um, uh, I think it's, it's a really important thing to understand how to communicate in our, in an artistic manner.

01:16:27.280 Oh, yes.

01:16:27.680 Which is what I do.

01:16:28.700 Because when you're, when you're speaking art, artistically, when you're communicating in, in that manner, you're communicating on multiple different levels.

01:16:37.540 You know, I, you know, where like logic and reason may, you know, uh, fail most people.

01:16:43.660 You know, it's, it's these other things that really are true.

01:16:46.740 Once they feel them, now it's going to register with them and they're going to understand a lot better.

01:16:52.600 Yeah.

01:16:52.680 And also just having finesse.

01:16:54.000 I think of how the English language, how people used to convey these ideas with this rich vocabulary and these, like, the ways that they would, you know, share their experiences and things that they were going through or like ways that they would insult people that just sounded beautiful.

01:17:13.000 Yes.

01:17:13.600 Like, wow, man, we need to take on that approach too.

01:17:19.460 Yeah.

01:17:19.640 We need, we need to have some subtlety and artfulness, uh, but it's also just as valid to just be like cutthroat and just say how it is.

01:17:28.560 Yeah.

01:17:29.000 All depends who you're dealing with and who your target audience is.

01:17:32.300 Yes.

01:17:33.140 Yeah.

01:17:33.280 Well, thank you so much for your time today.

01:17:34.640 It's been a blast getting to know you and hearing all about what you do.

01:17:39.040 And I'm sure we'll see a lot more of you around the internet.

01:17:42.880 Yes.

01:17:43.480 Thank you, Lana.

01:17:44.320 It was really nice, uh, talking to you.

01:17:46.480 I, I, I'm honestly very flattered that you would have me on.

01:17:49.660 We'll do it again sometime.

01:17:50.480 Okay.

01:17:51.400 Yes, definitely.

01:17:52.300 Thank you.

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Red Ice TV - November 23, 2023

Why European Culture, Art and Beauty Matter - Gifts

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