Gifts is a fine artist, a musician, and a dissident who is collaborating with Arctos to create videos on culture, history, art, and philosophy. In this episode, she shares her thoughts on modern art, the state of the world, and the role of art in society.
00:08:49.180So, obviously, you know, basically taking us from that is telling us, well, no, all interpretations of reality matter.
00:08:58.180Well, okay, you could be wrong in your interpretation of what you think is beautiful or what you think is the way to actually do something that you would use your rationality to, let's say, fly a plane.
00:09:09.180We know that there are certain metrics, certain ways we go about, you know, making a plane.
00:09:14.180Not all ways of making a plane will make a plane.
00:09:17.180Obviously, you need to know how to do that.
00:09:19.180Well, we've kind of abandoned the study of aesthetics and our sense experience.
00:09:24.180And that was something in the West that we really developed and we refined, that we understood, no, taste can be developed.
00:09:32.180And then you can determine what is beautiful and what is not.
00:09:37.180So, yeah, you could be wrong in your subjective understanding of what is beautiful.
00:09:42.180And so, I guess the last thing I'll say here is that it's definitely a way to disorient to say that, you know, even the ugliest thing can be beautiful because I say it is.
00:09:56.180Yeah. And ultimately, I feel like it's all just a war on a healthy European society and values.0.64
00:10:03.180Right. Because we've always valued and beauty has always mattered to us, whether it's art or architecture, fashion, interior design, the machinery, the cars, the fabrics.
00:10:15.180You know, there's such a part of Western civilization.
00:10:18.180And now you see this degenerate, like, as you see here, this modern art being pushed, urinals, literal shit on a plate.
00:10:26.180Like, this is being pushed in pop culture as though this is, like, something amazing and we should, like, be celebrating this now.
00:10:35.180It's very, it's very incredibly subversive.
00:10:38.180And I think, basically, the shit on the plate summarizes it.
00:10:42.180It's like, they want to crap all over Western civilization and all the beauty that we have.
00:10:48.180Well, again, you guys are showing on the screen here Marcel Duchamp.
00:10:51.180And he's a perfect example of exactly that.
00:10:54.180And I think there's actually a quote from him where he basically admits that he wants to destroy Western aesthetics.
00:11:03.180Yes, and they also use language to do that, too, in a variety of different ways.
00:11:08.180But basically, you know, putting a urinal in a gallery is a way to, it's sort of a joke.
00:11:15.180It's that, oh, well, I can have a found object, a thing that I find, and there's no skill needed.
00:11:21.180Once again, the, you know, egalitarianist nature of the art world is that you don't need to have skill.
00:11:27.180You don't even need to have any roots and display those things.
00:11:30.180In fact, that's what, you know, we would prefer.
00:11:34.180And you can see how subversive that is because then everything is open to interpretation, which just means that we can degrade and hit at all of our roots and, you know, destroy them.
00:11:45.180You also find, too, that these people are very anti-nature, anti the natural order and natural hierarchy of just what nature has created.
00:11:55.180And nature has always been such an important part of art.
00:11:58.180Can you discuss just a little bit about the relationship to art and nature, as we've seen in Western civilization?
00:12:05.180Because we're seeing a lot less of that now as we're, you know, celebrating trannies and all that.1.00
00:12:14.180That's a, that's a really good question.
00:12:15.180So there's definitely a, it's, it's a bit complicated, but basically because of individualism, we have sort of this, it's, I call it navel gazing, where we're looking only at ourselves.
00:12:29.180And so it's, it's me, me, me, it's my individual experience.
00:12:32.180And when you do that, you go inward and you're not really looking out into the world.
00:12:36.180You're, it's, it almost becomes for a lack of a better word, satanic, right?
00:12:42.180Because, you know, honestly, in a way, Satan is really just ourselves.
00:13:13.180It has to do with the Dionysian and, and, and the Apollonian sort of cultural differences throughout time.
00:13:20.180But yeah, generally speaking, we've moved further away from nature and the divine to kind of, you know, have this almost a Reddit tier interpretation of things that if you can't measure it and, and it's not something that's provable by human standards.
00:13:38.180There's no mystery in anything, which is what nature is, nature is mysterious.
00:13:43.180You know, we really just only have ourselves to look at, which is why we're making art that doesn't, you know, it's not natural.
00:13:51.180It's just a looking inward to our personal experience.
00:13:59.180And, and you see that in like the, the architecture, this cuboid, this modern art, this cold, clean, modern lines, as they call it, and just stark whiteness.
00:14:12.180I'm surrounded by, you know, nature elements, paintings that incorporate nature or scrolly looking things or, you know, floral looking things.
00:14:20.180I love like the old world kind of classic touch in, in furniture, for instance, it just makes your soul feel good.
00:14:35.180Roger Scruton, he actually talks about that too.
00:14:37.180And how, you know, if you look at in his documentary, he talks about this, that a building that is more in tune with nature, you know, gets covered with vines, you know, these, these little, you know, like German villages and stuff like that.
00:14:52.180They have a, there's like a harmony that they have with the nature that's around them.
00:14:57.180Whereas a modern building, like the one he's standing in front of is, is almost like in denial of nature and it's not, it's, it's purely utilitarian.
00:15:06.180So no one wants to go live in an area where the buildings are communistic and square.
00:15:17.180They're putting up all this ugly cuboid utilitarian soulless kind of stuff.
00:15:22.180So it just tells me, okay, you are soulless.
00:15:25.180If you could feel good living in that and be surrounded by like, you know, art that's just like paint splatters and these clean lines all around you.
00:15:35.180It's just, oh, you know, I don't know any, I don't know any friends in my circle who like that.
00:15:41.180Cause it really is telling of kind of what's going on internally.
00:15:54.180And I think that that's one of the biggest thing is that it uproots you.
00:15:58.180You know, it's, it doesn't, it doesn't feel like home because there is no, um, uh, there's basically no group of people who have come together to make that thing.
00:16:07.180It's like almost like a foreign entity has put this thing here and it's corporate.
00:16:20.180The ability to house you, but it doesn't have the ability to, uh, to inspire you.
00:16:24.180No, when it comes to our, I like to go to like fine art.com or art.com and go, they have like a lot of old stuff too, you know, 15, 16, 17, 18 hundreds.
00:16:33.180And you can get those things reprinted.
00:16:35.180So you can find, you know, mythological paintings and, uh, all kinds of just paintings that make you feel, feel good.
00:16:42.180Like some of the famous ones too, and you can get them reprinted on canvas and it looks amazing.
00:16:46.180So I've done that for some of my favorites and there's a bunch more that I want, but let's talk about the Renaissance.
00:17:26.180Like the Renaissance period and like all the death before that.0.77
00:17:30.180I, I, I actually do agree with this, but also at the same time, I, I'm, I have a little bit of an opposition to that time period.
00:17:40.180And I know that's kind of strange because I'm, I'm, I'm in a, you know, an art student.
00:17:45.180And that's one of the main things that's pushed in, in, you know, art school is, oh, the Renaissance.
00:17:51.180Well, yes, it was a revitalization and, and, you know, Europe was going through a tough time, but what preceded it was the Gothic era.
00:17:59.180And I think there's a lot of really interesting, important things that are going on there.
00:18:02.180If I, I actually just read a book by Julia Savula about the Holy Grail, and he talks about how it's around the time that the Knights Templar fail and they were burned up the stake by, you know, the, by the Pope, which is weird because, you know, a lot of pagans were also burned to the stake as we know.
00:18:25.180There he, he says that this is kind of like a signal to the end of the, of the West.
00:18:30.180And so the Renaissance is something that comes after and is, yes, a revitalization, but a revitalization of what, of, of Hellenism, of, of what the Greeks were doing.
00:18:42.080And that's a complicated story, but, but basically what I'm alluding to here is that that culture is very secular and what that ends up leading to, and it's kind of the, almost the foundation for is kind of the mess that we're in.
00:18:56.600So it's kind of strange because it happened slowly over time.
00:18:59.640So I guess what I'm trying to say is that, you know, the, the Medici's were one of the biggest patrons of the arts during that time.
00:19:07.240And they were very connected to bankers and, and it's kind of the setting the stones for the breaking down of civilization and the scientific revolution and then the enlightenment.
00:19:21.680So it's, it is great, but it's also pros and cons there.
00:19:48.320It's, it's a very slow decline of the West.
00:19:50.460There are many different factors, but obviously during that time, people still understood with what beauty was there.
00:19:56.400We weren't as, as far along, you know, as we are today.
00:20:01.800So obviously they still were able to maintain that, but it's just that there was a, you know, a sort of liberal, you know, liberalism was kind of starting to develop during that time for complicated reasons.
00:20:15.740Yeah. But, but we, there's no doubt that Rome produced and the Greeks produced some of the most beautiful sculpture that, that we have in the world.
00:20:25.600So that is always a good thing that comes out of Hellenism.
00:20:29.840I know we'll get into Rome and also how it's not gay, but what it, what does it mean to be part of the West?0.85
00:21:08.320So, you know, obviously it's a, it's a piece of terminology that, that, you know, historians use to kind of, you know, indicate that like civilization really kicked off during this time period,
00:21:21.780which was, you know, the Roman era and, and really all that the West means, you know, from your standard definition is that you were from Rome or culture that came out of Rome.
00:21:34.640And so as far as the barbarians are concerned, it gets a little complicated, but, you know, basically all that it meant was that a barbarian was not a person of Rome.
00:21:47.220They didn't, they didn't live in Rome.
00:21:48.700And of course, over time that developed a negative connotation.
00:21:53.080You don't bathe, you're basically like a redneck, you have no manners and it's the complete opposite, by the way.1.00
00:21:59.980Well, well, no, it really is because the, you know, there's, there's this misconception about the barbarians that brought down Western civilization, right?
00:22:07.060Those people were actually very noble, very upstanding, like Alric the barbarian.
00:22:11.780The Romans at that point in time had degraded severely and the people in Rome didn't like being in Rome and they didn't like their leaders and actually welcomed the barbarians.0.74
00:22:24.460So, you know, it's, I guess what I'm, what I'm trying to allude to here is that the people that were up in the Northern region that weren't a part of Rome,
00:22:34.440they would work for Rome and were even genetically similar to a lot of the people that were, you know, tribes that were living in Rome.
00:22:43.420So it's, it's just a collection of merit, very many different people that, you know, are all generally speaking in what we know as Europe today.
00:22:53.780So it's, it's just, it's just that this word, it has a particular use in ancient times that's kind of gotten this bad rap.
00:23:07.340And then, and then nowadays you have like these anti-whites and even have it on the like conservative side of like, well, you know, it was many different races that built Western civilization.
00:23:24.120And if we're going to go just Rome, like Rome was white people, as much as they're trying to interject that there was all these blacks and all these people, that it was multiculturalism and all this, that is not true.
00:23:36.420And, and we should get into this whole thing about Rome didn't fall in a day.
00:23:40.780It wasn't paganism that for the reason for why it fell, it was pagan for all that time.
00:23:47.240I mean, actually it was a Christian for a shorter period before it fell, but it was really multiculturalism at the end of the day that made it fall.0.65
00:23:54.280But what can you say about Rome not falling in a day and a little bit about Rome's history?
00:24:00.720So Rome, obviously the decline of civilization happens slowly over time.
00:24:09.520And of course, yes, you know, incorporating other groups of people into your civilization who don't have anything to do with it.
00:24:17.240Can bring about the end of your civilization.
00:24:20.280You know, from my understanding in Rome, people weren't, they were starting to speak their own languages that, you know, Rome wasn't being as strict as they should have been in, you know, making the Germanic people, you know, speak Rome and, you know, take on their customs.
00:24:42.160And obviously that just makes sense that if you have this great civilization like Rome was, that, that if you want to keep it consistently going, you have to stick to the root of what made that thing successful.
00:24:56.760And it was a particular tribe that, that, you know, kicked off that civilization.0.99
00:25:03.160And then over time that ended up, you know, everybody sort of lost the, the culture, the spirit of what it was to be Roman.
00:25:11.020So, yeah, you know, you know, it's definitely not the same as what we're dealing with today, because obviously Germanic tribes and people in the Mediterranean have a lot of connection to one another.
00:25:23.960The history is, is very intertwined because, you know, of the Vikings and stuff like that and the Phoenicians.
00:25:28.920So, so, so, you know, to suggest that it's the same type of situation as what we're dealing with today, it is in the sense that, you know, any country, you know, throughout history, not just the Romans, that decided to take in foreigners, people who weren't invested in the culture or, you know, in history.
00:25:49.080You know, of course, that's going to eventually lead to the decline of that civilization.
00:25:54.620But to suggest that, you know, Africans have, you know, that, that it was multicultural in, in the way that we're multicultural now.
00:26:04.140No, we all as Europe, European people all have sort of a root connection to one another, be it Roman or, you know, Germanic.
00:26:17.980It's, it's like America when they say, oh, it was a melting pot.
00:26:20.900Well, it was a melting pot of European peoples and we already have some, a shared core values that we don't have to explain to one another as European peoples.
00:26:30.360Just as, you know, Asian people have their things, Africans have their things, you know, Middle Eastern people have their things.
00:26:37.260Like some of these, it's not really multiculturalism in the sense of today's multiracial multiculturalism.
00:26:45.620And even then, when you have a bunch of white people, even with the different ethnicities, even then it's, it's issues, you know, it's problems and it's hard.0.93
00:26:53.180But at least it's our own problems, right?
00:27:36.700It was just like, they just immediately jump on, oh, they had black skin, so they must be African.0.99
00:27:41.060You know, it's this total reconstruction, completely guessing all these things, just as another excuse to justify how we're not really native anywhere.
00:27:50.740And therefore, anyone could come live there and have claim to it now.
00:29:14.460And Leather Apron Club made a fantastic video about it.
00:29:18.100And, yeah, it's, okay, so looking at the culture that was developing, that ended up leading to Rome and made ancient Greece what it was, they were hypermasculine.
00:29:33.200They actually, in a way, sort of had, you know, antagonism to the feminine.
00:29:39.420And that's a complicated story, but to suggest that they had an embrace of the feminine to the point that they were homosexuals, it doesn't even make sense with what they believed in their customs.
00:29:52.280They were very opposed to homosexuality for the reason that if you were acting like a woman, they considered you to be, like, the lowest of the low.
00:31:53.320And they're basically considered to be the first Europeans, the Minoan civilization that was on Crete.
00:32:01.440And one of their figures in mythology is the bull, is the Minotaur.
00:32:10.100And in this kind of, you know, this story of Europa is that she's a Phoenician princess who gets swept away by a bull.
00:32:20.080And that symbolism of the bull is really fascinating because in, you know, in we know Arianism is something that, you know, a lot of people are contending with.
00:32:31.620And that seems to be another rudimentary thing.
00:32:34.140Well, the symbol of the bull is found wherever we go.
00:32:39.480It is, you know, a symbol that you'll find in India even today that the highest caste in India, you know, why are Indians obsessed with bulls?
00:32:50.660Well, the highest caste that's there who are whiter skin, who live up in the northern region, that they are represented as the bull.1.00
00:32:59.440And so that's kind of a remnant of, you know, one of our markers of having been there.
00:33:07.300And so as far as, you know, Europa is concerned, yes, it's a Phoenician princess.
00:33:14.280It's where the word Europe comes from.
00:33:19.260And so with it is the symbol of the bull and of this mythology and kind of explaining what sort of happened.
00:33:28.100But yes, it's really key because, like I said, the first group of people that we denote, that historians denote as being Europeans, are the people from Crete, the Minoan civilization.
00:33:41.960Yeah, and I've seen in some circles, unfortunately, where they're afraid of it.
00:33:45.420They're like, oh, this is a cult or this is some pagan goddess.
00:33:51.660And they somehow connect it to the European Union, which the European Union has nothing to do with, like, caring about the future of Europe and protecting European interests and celebrating European culture, does it?
00:34:04.340Yes, it's a very good symbol because wherever we go throughout ancient history, we look at how we were kind of influencing different areas throughout time.
00:34:16.080We always, you know, were, we were raising bulls.
00:34:24.020And as far as it being related to the feminine, yeah, there's complicated things there and paganism and whatnot.
00:34:30.060But yeah, I don't know if you want to talk about the Phoenicians, but yeah, the Phoenicians are also an interesting group of people that have a connection to, to Crete and are part of, you know, our story.
00:34:49.260Yeah, because this, this whole situation, right, regarding Israel and Palestine, it's revealed a lot for the West, as you mentioned in your video.
00:34:57.580You know, we just kind of got over talking about what, what the West is, but Israel is not a European country today.
00:35:04.780I see people calling it a white country.
00:35:07.200How do you respond when they're calling Israel a Western or European or white, white country?
00:35:15.060Well, I think it's, it's definitely incorrect and for complicated reasons.
00:35:21.280Now, obviously in the very, very, very distant past, you could make a claim that we have a connection to the people who are now living in Israel that are known as Jews.
00:35:32.360Well, there's this conflation between Christianity and Judaism that they're sort of the same thing.
00:35:40.500And it's because of this ancient root that they have.
00:35:44.200So, you know, the Tanakh and other, you know, works that, that these people were, were, you know, that they all had a connection to eventually became, you know, the Babylonian Talmud and, and the Bible.
00:35:59.040But those things are, they've, they've kind of gone their separate ways.
00:36:03.060One group of people who lived in the Northern Kingdom, which was called Israel, they ended up getting taken over by the Neo-Assyrian Empire.
00:36:16.640And so they ended up getting taken into Europe, into Turkey, and then into Romania, they kind of spread about.
00:36:24.040And they also, a lot of them ended up going into, you know, modern day Italy and, and becoming, you know, Hellenized.
00:39:49.940It's honestly, it's a false dichotomy.
00:39:51.920They're, they're creating this, this argument that, oh, well, you have to pick either Palestine or you have to pick Israel.
00:39:58.900And that's obviously, you don't have to, it has nothing to do with you, it has nothing to do with me, it has something to do with us.
00:40:04.760And this group of people conveniently will shift when it, you know, suits their interest to be Westerners or to be something entirely different.
00:40:14.840So I think we should trust them when they say that they are something separate from us because they're constantly telling us that until it's convenient to unify with us.
00:40:57.760I mean, he's not calling for this kind of progress, open borders in Israel to bring them more diversity, multiculturalism, cultural enrichment, all those lies, and calling it progress.
00:41:08.000He sits there and he's just so pompous and so arrogant.
00:41:11.060It's just so annoying seeing this guy.
00:41:12.960So obviously, he's seeing like us versus them here.
00:41:31.600And even more interesting is that he is supposedly an atheist.
00:41:37.400And so people, you know, I actually was having a conversation with people on Twitter and they're like, no, no, he's Jewish, but he's not really Jewish.
00:42:19.680Just as any other group of people in this world has a love for their people, white people are the only ones that seem to have this outgroup preference.
00:42:29.040But, yeah, it's completely disgusting that he would say that under the guise of progress.
00:42:52.720Sure, they're not dropping bombs, but almost what we've had has been more subversive and happening through the decades in a sneaky, nefarious way.
00:43:03.540It's almost easier if it's, like, in your face and someone's, like, pointing a gun at you and saying, yeah, I hate you.
00:43:08.080I don't want to kill you versus some of the subversive ways we've seen where, you know, these scholars are trying to convince white people why they should be replaced and why they shouldn't hate themselves and why they should open the doors to letting everyone live in their country.
00:43:24.880Yeah, yeah, I definitely think, and that's well said, that there are groups of people that, you know, this tribe that, you know, Bill hails from that have used, you know, not, you know, physical force and weaponry because, you know, the West was so, you know, stable in that regard.
00:43:48.560And they've definitely used art and they've definitely used art and media and a sort of persuasion to convince people and undermine, you know, their ancestral roots and convince them, you know, that they should be nihilist and that there's no point, you know, of existing.
00:44:09.060And so, yeah, it's definitely happened in a very slow kind of boil the frog sort of manner.
00:44:16.220It's not in your face because I don't think that they could really deal with us in that way.
00:44:25.060Let's let's get into that because culture influences politics and there has been a lot of subversive activities, you know, hijacking our culture.
00:44:33.840It's why people say it's a culture war, a case for culture.
00:44:37.860Now, ethnicity, in my view, is the foundation of culture, right?
00:44:41.140This is in a big way shapes our identity, not all of it, but in a big way.
00:44:47.260It helps us understand each other and function as a society.
00:44:50.640Culture includes what language and ideas and beliefs and customs, mythology, codes of conduct, rituals, holidays, ceremonies, everything, right?
00:45:01.760You have different cultures throughout the world and it's tied to ethnic peoples, right?
00:45:42.080I think people are really starting to realize what you just alluded to there, that it's the spirit of a group of people,
00:45:50.500that, you know, all of these different ways of communicating through visual format or through, you know, a mythos that we're all connected to each other.
00:47:11.860It's our shared taste in things of how we like to live.
00:47:15.980So if we break those things down and we don't continue to, you know, make the same art or we don't continue to have the same customs, the West doesn't exist because the West isn't just, you know, a physical place.
00:47:33.580It's obviously a certain group of people with a certain collective spirit.
00:47:37.500And so that's really why I would say culture is and why it's important.
00:47:40.600Yeah, well, we're seeing the erasure, the destruction of our culture.
00:47:46.680We're seeing them trying to rewrite our stories in the forms of visual visually, right, with movies, because that's what people remember when they think of history, right?
00:47:56.140It's like, oh, I saw that movie and then it registers.
00:48:21.280And, you know, as you alluded to earlier about the Renaissance, though I have my criticisms of the Renaissance,
00:48:27.020we go through a, you know, a cycle where we kind of have a decline and then we revitalize the best elements of our culture and, you know, get back on track.
00:48:42.340And so I know that we can do it because we've done it in the past.
00:48:47.380And it really just takes being confident in our ancestors, because one of the things that's been done is that it's been, you know, the past has been deemed, you know, erroneous.
00:49:03.240That there's sort of been a secularization of mythology and legend of understanding the past.
00:49:10.260And so I think it really will just take embracing what our traditions are and what our ancestors told us about who we are.
00:49:21.060And, of course, you know, not letting someone else write our stories for us, because that's what's happened with Hollywood,
00:49:29.060is that there was a shift from one group of people to another to tell our stories.
00:49:34.900And, of course, you know, it's obviously been not in favor of us, and it's been sort of putting doubt in people's mind that maybe the past wasn't what we thought it was,
00:49:44.540and that, you know, our ancestors were lying to us.
00:49:47.000So I think it really just takes not letting these people determine what we determine to be the past.
00:49:57.400We need to not be on their terms of what we define as myth or legend or actual history, and we just take it back for ourselves.
00:50:11.520That's really just the problem, is that, you know, we are not in control of the narrative right now.
00:50:19.100Yeah, we're letting other people who hate us write our own stories or teach our kids.
00:50:24.600I mean, think about the statue that was recently taken down of Robert E. Lee.
00:50:30.800Why was this African-American woman in possession of that sculpture?1.00
00:50:52.360And by the way, that park where he once stood, Robert E. Lee, is now full of homeless people, tents and drugs and people pooping in the grass.
00:51:06.440It all comes down to, like, poop on the plate.
00:51:09.400Like, if I can summarize, you know, that modern art just really summarized everything right now and, like, the end goal of everything here.
00:51:23.460I think that the root of all our problems today, like what we've been talking about, is the destruction of European ethnic folk culture and history.
00:51:35.640I mean, really, that's the root because they've been, you know, we've been convinced that we're this horrible thing.
00:51:41.540And so we just don't care about, you know, preserving these things anymore or defending or honoring it.
00:51:46.780Yeah, yeah, we've been convinced that we've been lied to and that, you know, there's almost like this lie of freedom, which is really strange, that we have become more free having untethered ourselves from the past, which isn't true.
00:52:05.580So under the guise of freedom and progress, that we're moving somewhere new and somewhere better, which isn't the case.
00:52:13.300We've abandoned all of these, all of this ancient wisdom, all of this tradition that, you know, let's say you're in a forest.
00:52:22.880Would you be able to navigate a forest without, you know, a compass and a map?
00:52:29.060Well, that's basically what we've done is we've decided, okay, well, the map and the compass that our ancestors gave us, that they were wrong, that it lies to us.
00:52:41.020And so it's basically treating these things that have been worked on over time, this wisdom that's been passed on to us, that it's false or evil.
00:52:51.860And, you know, that, oh, we're free now that we don't have those constraints.
00:53:05.540It's just like people being dependent on technology or where AI is going.
00:53:09.660Are they really empowered and free when they're not going to know how to do anything and they've just relied on a computer to do everything for them and then that computer dies?
00:53:20.360Now that they've convinced you that these important things that were gifted to you by your ancestors, a way of understanding reality and knowing, oh, well, you know, here's a moral code or something.
00:53:43.540No, that's why I think like ancient philosophy, religions, mythology and knowledge, the spirituality, we can't let that fade away.
00:53:51.960And I think those in control want that to fade away because they know it is so important for us for like true liberation, right?
00:53:58.680For true enlightenment and if you don't have those things, you're not grounded in something real and timeless and truthful and classic and ancient and then you are easily manipulated and controlled and then it turns into ghetto rap culture, right?0.91
00:54:14.660And it's like that's all I see anymore is like ghetto rap culture.0.86
00:54:18.220I even see like old ladies listening to this crap in their car.0.98
00:55:15.200It's been around for 25 years and I'm sick and I'm tired of it.
00:55:19.040And I do think, I do think even though people are persuaded by, you know, oh, billboard top 100 is saying or what, you know, the people in power suggesting to people in the media that is good.
00:55:30.840You know, like, you know, Nicki Minaj or something like that.
00:55:33.940Despite that, I do think that people who are European or white are getting really tired of this.0.56
00:55:40.200And, you know, obviously people, even though they're persuaded by these entities, they still understand what beauty is.
00:55:49.180People instinctually still know when they see something that they love.
00:55:52.020So something that's interesting that's happened is that at least young white kids are really interested in K-pop.
00:56:00.500And that's kind of a scapegoat because it's not cool to like white culture.
00:56:07.280So if the Koreans are dressing like white boys and they have bleached blonde hair and, you know, like blue eye contacts and are dressing European and, you know, are using all of those traditional instruments, suddenly it's okay.0.99
00:56:20.120So obviously, even though people are accepting that culture, almost like as a virtue signal, that of rap, they still long for European aesthetics, but just not if the white person's doing it.
00:56:32.460Well, in those rap videos, they love the fine European cars and the clothes and the bling, you know, they love all the fine sheet that we make, you know.
00:56:42.140Yeah, I mean, American culture sucks, right?
00:56:45.920And this is what happens when you lose memory of all the cool, old, ancient stuff.
00:56:51.120This is what happens when you open the doors to, you know, foreigners.1.00
00:56:55.840And not all these people were brought here through slavery, by the way.
00:56:58.800There was only like, what, 400,000 African slaves by a few merchants, really.
00:57:03.640So like a lot of these came later, right?
00:57:06.940And it's just like, it just doesn't go away.
00:57:09.520It's like globalists have decided, like, this is where they wanted to stop, you know?
00:57:30.600But at the same time, I think there's going to be a huge backlash.
00:57:33.180The people are sick and tired of this shit, too, you know, where they're going to want, like, beauty and aesthetics and things that sound pleasing.
00:57:40.660I have a friend that's an interior designer, and she said that she's seeing the trends, and she deals with people, like, high-end also, seeing the trends of people getting tired of the modern, cold, clean lines and, like, a resurgence of a lot of the old world type of stuff.
00:57:58.420So she's seeing that, you know, it's, there's always been levels of that on the high end, but now we're seeing it, like, in the mid-end, you know, more like upper-middle class people who are, like, wanting to go back to that.
00:58:08.560And I was like, oh, I saw that as, like, a little good glimmer of, glimmer of hope of people getting sick and tired of all this other stuff.
00:58:16.660And I wouldn't, I wouldn't even say that, you know, like, that that's Western culture, that's American culture.
00:58:23.860Unfortunately, it has become American culture.
00:58:26.300But, you know, what they've done is they've taken something that was once very good, you know, the people who came to this country, you know, had a vision for what they wanted this land and this country to be like.
00:58:40.220And unfortunately, we're now, you know, forced to accept what was on the screen just there a couple seconds ago.
00:58:48.040American culture used to be, I mean, I think of, like, cowboys and barbecues and discovery and innovation and invention, like, all these cool things that there were so many European Americans that just brought the world so much, you know, it's like the age of invention and discovery.
00:59:06.440And, like, that forever is, you know, in my mind, like, American culture, it fostered that, right?
00:59:12.460There was a sense of freedom and come claim your land and build your homestead and dream big.
00:59:21.520But to go back to your main point, it's, you know, you can even see in early America that, you know, despite having all of those good values and, you know, there was a lot of turmoil in Europe, you know, lots of revolutions were happening.
00:59:36.880And people decided to come here and live a simpler lifestyle.
00:59:40.220But one of the things that they did, you know, the Protestants, if you go to a Protestant church or you look at the Mennonites, their churches are completely void of art.0.97
00:59:49.920They actually almost have, you know, they hate aesthetics.
01:00:02.900And while I understand that, it's also one of the reasons, like you mentioned, that, you know, we in America are not focused on our roots.
01:00:12.340We basically have hardly any indicators of our European ancestry.
01:00:16.360And the way that that's communicated, and this is why culture is important, is through, like, if you go to Europe, it's really hard to not be European because you can see around you the buildings are constantly.
01:00:26.940It's old, it's been there a while, it's established, right?
01:01:10.640Well, the argument for that, that, like, the Indians were the first people that came here and they have more of a claim to the land than we do.
01:01:19.200Okay, that's not how civilization works.
01:01:21.380That's not, you know, the way that things work is that, you know, this, this, there wasn't even a country here.
01:01:27.380There was basically open land with some tribes.
01:01:42.480And then it's like, okay, if we're invaders, then what makes it okay for all of you to come live here, then, and enjoy the fruits of what the invaders built, you know?
01:01:51.160And then, of course, we can go back farther with, like, the Solitrean hypothesis and all of that.
01:01:56.500And most American Indians today are admixture.
01:05:19.220We're not saying go back to being a 1950s housewife, right?
01:05:22.740It's not about, it's about not forgetting, like, where your people come from.
01:05:28.020And I always wonder, are we capable of creating art or stories or mythology today that will be viewed as classical in the future?
01:05:37.420You know, something that incorporates new mythologies and art to remind future generations of the struggles that we went through, our generations now, so that they don't forget.
01:05:49.000You know, now we have the Internet, you know, which is vast.
01:06:01.480Yeah, we've most certainly done it before in the past.
01:06:05.360And there's always a group of people who are unique, like Richard Wagner is a good example, or Homer.
01:06:13.420And these people have just this drive to, you know, figure out and, you know, like, mythologize our past and create this story and help revitalize culture.
01:06:26.300That's something that's something that always happens.
01:06:28.220And these people, honestly, right now are just not being encouraged to do that.
01:06:33.620But once those people have the go ahead and we understand culturally where we're supposed to head, we have at least, you know, a semblance, understanding of who it is that we are, because that's been so eroded.
01:06:47.240I have absolutely no doubt that we're going to start making, you know, some true classics.
01:06:54.980We are, you know, we go through different phases where we're, you know, in a low, and then we have to, you know, you know, get back together with other people and decide, okay, well, what are we really?
01:07:09.040And actually, I think the internet, yes, can be a bad thing.
01:07:12.400But you can see how powerful a meme can be, or a tweet can be if you just, like, hit on the right energy.
01:07:18.980And the moment that we start figuring out this spirit, this zeitgeist of who it is we really are, and someone talented comes along and decides, you know what, I want to do something vitalistic and life-affirming, as opposed to something that's nihilistic and postmodern, which is where all the artists are centering their attention right now.
01:07:36.540And, like, in the liberal realm, once somebody with actual real talent decides to take up that route and seriously pursues it, no question.
01:07:49.120Yeah, you're right. Some memes can be classic. I could see, like, 50 years from now. I could see being an old lady looking back and be like, look at this.
01:07:58.740It summarized exactly what we were going through perfectly. It's not the most beautiful art, but it's, like, it's still classic.
01:08:09.140There's one story that's very popular, and you have a new video coming out exploring gothic culture, which I also am interested in.
01:08:17.140And it's the legend of King Arthur, right, and the Grail. So why is this story so popular? This one seems to never go away.
01:08:26.680Yeah, it doesn't, and it's remarkable that it doesn't. And obviously, during its time, it was very powerful.
01:08:34.480And I think the reason why it sticks around is because there's a truth to it, and that's why, you know, the Iliad and the Odyssey is something that still sticks out to us to this day.
01:08:47.540Or Lord of the Rings, which was inspired by Richard Wagner's Ring Cycle.
01:08:53.260There are certain mythos that's formed that is almost more true than history.
01:09:01.540And it's this ability to take the past and amplify all of the aspects of it that are important, because history is basically a recounting of the past that's very secularized.
01:09:15.120You kind of remove, it's, like, very mathematical, if you will. It's very scientific.
01:09:19.460But when you properly mythologize something that happened in the past, it can echo through the ages, you know, forever.
01:09:29.380And so this particular story is one that, you know, during the medieval era, communicated something really important to people about, you know, your lineage, and was very life-affirming.
01:09:45.940And in terms of, you know, enlightenment, its meaning sort of changed over time what it meant to be enlightened.
01:09:53.360But the story of the Holy Grail kind of gives us an insight into what that used to mean.
01:09:59.940So, yeah, it's popular just because I think it's so true.
01:10:04.620There's obviously something true about it.
01:10:07.320Yeah, and it's always the quest for eternal life, right?
01:10:47.080And so I actually think that, exactly, you know, the narratives and the mythos that we have today takes us away from that.
01:10:54.880And it's interesting that people during, you know, the medieval era, they were intrigued by this mythology of the Holy Grail and the Knights of the Round Table.
01:11:05.040And so I really do think that we can gain some insights from that mythology.
01:11:10.000And maybe it's something that needs to be re-mythologized and, you know, told to our children so that they can, you know, understand why that quest is important.
01:11:19.180Because now that we've abandoned that, I mean, you know, we're, you know, letting all of these people from the third world in.1.00
01:11:26.160And it seems that those people understood that family was important and that lineages in your bloodlines were a very, very, very important thing.
01:12:23.900They're doing that because they know that it's the children that are the most persuadable.
01:12:29.740So if we're going to, you know, revitalize our culture and we're going to, you know, rekindle the spirit of Western civilization, it's going to be reclaiming all of our institutions or making our own.
01:12:45.880Understanding that culture, understanding that culture, not looking at art as entertainment and to be more mindful of that consumption.
01:12:54.220But then, yes, you know, using art as a means to help children understand what their past was and and to tell them these important stories.
01:13:05.860And I think it's honestly just focusing on them and imbuing them with the right values that will end up, you know, saving the West because, you know, they're the future.
01:13:19.160You should create a fine arts crash course for the School of the West.
01:13:26.760No, I think that would be great for like homeschoolers to have as part of their, you know, education, their their toolkit.
01:13:33.180If you want to, I think that would just be awesome because it's like most of us, we you know, we don't know like all of art history and like where do you begin and all that.
01:13:40.800But that would be something that's really needed, I think.
01:13:46.280Yes, I'll have to put you in touch with them.
01:13:48.220Tell us about your new video podcast series.
01:13:51.220I know you're kind of examining the current state of Western civilization, exploring how modern liberalism and all these woke narratives are influencing and demoralizing and controlling our identity.
01:14:02.780Tell us about what you've got going on and how people can find you.
01:14:05.280Um, well, yes, I have a YouTube channel and it's, it's kind of a silly, it's kind of a silly art project.
01:14:15.260But at the same time, it is informative.
01:14:17.240And I like to do things in, you know, an unconventional manner because, you know, censorship, you know, when I started the channel was really kicked up a notch.
01:14:26.960And so I like to address things in a more subtle manner.
01:14:32.120Uh, but, but yeah, I, I just, honestly, I don't know anything about that.
01:14:36.620The channel is just generally speaking, a kind of more subtle way, uh, to, to talk about these really complicated questions and really just address, you know, who it is that we are.
01:14:48.480Why are we having these problems in relation to culture?
01:15:27.440You have to be artistic, different, you can't just come at this and like, be just like dry and to the point, totally serious all the time, you know.
01:15:38.480You have to find like roundabout ways, interesting ways to convey these topics.
01:15:43.980Like, you know, cause you, there's a, white people are, uh, interesting, you know, all kinds of different ways that they need to be reached, you know, all kinds of different personalities and weird little hangups.0.69
01:15:58.100It 100% is, but it's also valuable to, to have a different approach for people that, you know, kind of need to, uh, to have the, the, the seed planted, if you will.
01:16:08.420And kind of think that they're the ones who came up with the idea.
01:16:28.700Because when you're, when you're speaking art, artistically, when you're communicating in, in that manner, you're communicating on multiple different levels.
01:16:37.540You know, I, you know, where like logic and reason may, you know, uh, fail most people.
01:16:43.660You know, it's, it's these other things that really are true.
01:16:46.740Once they feel them, now it's going to register with them and they're going to understand a lot better.
01:16:54.000I think of how the English language, how people used to convey these ideas with this rich vocabulary and these, like, the ways that they would, you know, share their experiences and things that they were going through or like ways that they would insult people that just sounded beautiful.
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