Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Conservatives Split： Is Trump’s Iran Deal a Mistake？｜ Ron Simmons

00:00:00.000 Well, hello everyone.

00:00:25.040 I hope everybody is having a good week as we get ready to celebrate America's 250th birthday coming up, I guess, in about a week from when this comes out.

00:00:36.420 And I know our family is looking forward to it.

00:00:38.680 We're going to be doing the fireworks show.

00:00:40.860 I see that Lisa's already bought a bunch of Fourth of July stuff, you know, decorations.

00:00:48.600 And grandkids are going to be all together for a big part of that.

00:00:53.060 So we're really looking forward to that.

00:00:55.000 And I hope your family as well.

00:00:55.960 We're going to talk about that in just a few minutes on kind of some of the polling that's gone on related to this monumental landmark that we're going to be celebrating.

00:01:06.380 In fact, the longest running pure republic slash democracy in the world.

00:01:13.340 Most of them last a lot shorter time than that.

00:01:15.640 But we're very thankful that ours has gone on.

00:01:18.900 And a lot of that tribute obviously goes to our founders and to our creator, because I do believe that there was quite a bit of divine intervention in establishing America.

00:01:32.180 And just think about all the freedoms that we fought for over the years.

00:01:36.540 And it is pretty humbling to think about when you think about the sacrifices that have been made by so many for those of us that are here today.

00:01:46.360 But before we get into that, I want to talk. There's lots been going on on the Iran-U.S. front.

00:01:52.080 And as you know by now that President Trump signed a Memorandum of Understanding a week or so ago,

00:01:59.600 maybe a couple of weeks by the time this comes out.

00:02:01.700 And as I'm speaking to you today, Vice President Vance and Jared Kushner and Steve Wyckoff are in Switzerland

00:02:09.700 continuing to negotiate the details that will follow the memorandum of understanding. But

00:02:16.420 before we get into any of that, I want to go through the memorandum myself with you so that

00:02:22.140 you understand. And remember, a memorandum of understanding is not a binding commitment on

00:02:27.800 anyone. It is an agreement that, hey, this is generally what we understand, that we want to

00:02:34.760 happen, both sides, but we, you know, as they always say, the devil's in the details, and that's

00:02:40.200 the way it is with these things. I can't even, I mean, I've negotiated a bunch of contracts

00:02:44.860 in my past, selling companies and contracts with individuals. I've helped Allie with her

00:02:50.660 contracts in the past, and it's, I know that's complicated. I can't imagine how complicated

00:02:56.320 this is, especially when there's somebody on the other side of the table from you whose regime has

00:03:03.640 been committed to wiping us off the face of the earth. And so I can't imagine need to be praying

00:03:11.780 for Vice President Vance. And also speaking of that, I hope that you watched or listened to

00:03:17.260 Ali's podcast interview with Vice President last week. Boy, that was really, really good. She is

00:03:23.420 such a great interviewer and J.D. Vance is a great interviewee. He is very smart. I was very,

00:03:31.400 very impressed. Didn't necessarily agree with everything that he said, but I was very impressed

00:03:36.220 with the way he handled himself. And I know Ali was too, not just on camera, but off camera also.

00:03:43.080 But anyway, let's go into the memorandum of understanding. I got to get my glasses on here

00:03:46.540 because the type that this printed out on is pretty small. So just be with me. I'm going to

00:03:51.820 go through each point. All right. We've got time to do that today. Number one, the United States

00:03:56.660 and Iran and their allies in the current war by signing this MOU declare immediate and permanent

00:04:03.960 termination of military operations on all fronts, including Lebanon. Now, Lebanon, as you know,

00:04:10.440 is where I believe it's Hezbollah is, and that is the proxy for Iran that has caused Israel a lot

00:04:20.200 of trouble. And so we wanted to make sure that really on both sides, Israel and Hezbollah, 0.70

00:04:28.120 that their hostilities were going to cease as well. And we will undertake now on not to initiate

00:04:35.080 any war or military operation against each other and refrain from the threat or use of force against

00:04:41.200 each other, which I don't think they're going to live up to that. I don't think we're going to live

00:04:45.000 up to that. If we want a threatened force, which certainly we can do, we'll continue doing it. And

00:04:50.440 ensure the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. In other words, we're not trying to

00:04:55.000 take over any property in Lebanon. The second thing is U.S. and Iran will undertake with respect

00:05:01.820 to each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity and refrain from interfering in each

00:05:05.840 other's internal affairs. Then number three, that U.S. and Iran will commit to negotiating and

00:05:13.040 achieving the final deal within 60 days.

00:05:15.260 Of course, it can be extended with mutual consent,

00:05:18.620 but you got to put a deadline on something.

00:05:20.480 A goal without a deadline is just a dream or just a wish.

00:05:26.200 Number four, immediately upon sign the MOU,

00:05:29.100 the U.S. will begin removal of its naval blockade

00:05:32.820 and any disturbances or impediments against Iran

00:05:36.380 and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days.

00:05:39.440 So we're going through the process of doing that.

00:05:41.760 We're giving ourselves some time. First of all, nothing happens overnight. But second of all, I think we want to see how negotiations are going. That's my interpretation of it before we take everything away from there. And we're always, listen, this doesn't mean we're never going to have ships in the Middle East. We will have ships in the Middle East. We regularly have ships all over the world. I'm sure we'll have ships in the Mediterranean. We'll have ships in the Indian Ocean. And if we have to get back there quickly, we'll be able to do that.

00:06:09.220 Upon the signing of this MOU, Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for safe passage of vessels with no charge from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Amman and vice versa.

00:06:20.960 I think they've always had a fee going on for passing through there. 0.69

00:06:24.840 And so what we're saying is for the next 60 days, you've got to let them all go through for free.

00:06:29.460 And then after that, maybe negotiate what you charge for vessels to go through.

00:06:35.480 Kind of like going through the Panama Canal.

00:06:36.920 The U.S. undertakes, with its regional partners, a developed mutually agreed plan with at least $300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of Iran.

00:06:46.280 The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days.

00:06:52.160 All required licenses, waivers, and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the USA.

00:06:59.220 We're not putting money up. That's what President Trump said time and time again.

00:07:03.160 we're not putting money up. Some of the other countries in the region might be willing to put

00:07:07.240 up money, and we're going to allow that to happen. But it also has to come through us because it

00:07:11.800 can't happen if we think they're not living up to the other parts of this agreement. That's why

00:07:17.900 the licensing parts in there, okay? That really was important for that to happen.

00:07:23.040 The U.S. undertakes to terminate sanctions against Iran, including United Nations national

00:07:28.840 security resolutions. Of course, we can't control that ourself. That's a committee that we have one

00:07:35.760 vote on, although we do have veto power on that, but we can't control that 100% ourself, but we're

00:07:42.020 going to try to get that done. And also the IAEA, Board of Governors Resolutions, all unilateral

00:07:52.140 sanctions, primary and secondary, and agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal.

00:07:59.500 Again, this will take time over a period of months.

00:08:03.300 Number eight, Iran reaffirms it shall not procure, that means purchase, or develop nuclear

00:08:10.180 weapons.

00:08:10.720 So they can't buy them from North Korea or China, and they can't procure them.

00:08:16.380 I mean, that's what they're agreeing to now.

00:08:17.940 Now, you know, again, the only way to know that happens if we're monitoring that and we're going to be monitoring that.

00:08:25.720 The U.S. and Iran have agreed to resolve disposition of the stockpiled and rich material and the stuff that we blew up.

00:08:32.740 And if also if they have any more pursuant to a mechanism that we mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven.

00:08:40.740 That's within the 60 days. They want to get that done.

00:08:43.540 and then with the minimum methodology to be downblending on-site under the provision of IAEE.

00:08:54.320 The minimum thing they have to do is they have to downblend.

00:08:57.060 So if they've got any of it at 60%, we've got to downblend that

00:09:01.960 because my understanding is it only takes 20% enriched to provide the electrical,

00:09:06.320 the power that they're looking for, which is supposed to be,

00:09:08.820 and that's the only peacetime use they would need it for.

00:09:12.900 Pending the final deal, the USA and Iran agree to maintain the status quo.

00:09:18.480 Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program when all of this is done,

00:09:23.380 which means it's not enriched beyond the need for power, just to get electrical power.

00:09:31.640 And they will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region if Iran does that.

00:09:37.860 The United States of America undertakes this immediately upon signing of his interview, the termination of sanctions.

00:09:43.600 The U.S. Department of Education will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurance and transportation.

00:09:54.940 Number 11, the U.S. undertakes to make fully available for the use of frozen or restricted funds of Iran.

00:10:00.800 And number 12, the U.S. and Iran agree on the executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of the MOU and the final deal.

00:10:11.760 So we've got to see how that we're going to monitor it and make sure that both sides are living up to their agreement.

00:10:20.020 The final deal will be endorsed by a binding United Nations Security Council resolution.

00:10:25.900 So at the end of the day, the UN Security Council, with the agreement of both Iran and the U.S., will be asked to pass a resolution agreeing to all of these steps.

00:10:38.700 And that means when they do that, that means that the UN is agreeing that both sides will stick to what they've said.

00:10:47.520 And that's much more important to us that Iran sticks to their side, because we're obviously not going to just go in there and nuke Iran with no threat against us.

00:10:58.220 But we don't know, based on the Mullah's past statements and intentions, if they would do that. 0.74

00:11:04.680 So this gets the whole United Nations behind it.

00:11:08.280 Now, sometimes that's a paper tiger, but hopefully that will carry some weight as we go forward.

00:11:15.880 So that's the details, okay?

00:11:19.500 And I know that can be a little boring, but I want you to make sure that you understand this.

00:11:24.620 And this is so important.

00:11:25.600 Those of you that have kids and grandkids that are not of adult age yet, you need to be able to communicate with them over time.

00:11:37.040 Not if they're too little.

00:11:38.040 This is too much for them.

00:11:39.000 But over time, maybe you're teenagers or whatever as to what this means because they're going to be living with it.

00:11:43.480 You know, I don't know how long this is going to go on and when we're going to have future conflicts, but they need to understand this is an important point in history with our relationship with people in the Middle East.

00:11:53.700 And it's also important that the people that are helping negotiate some of this, you know, the Sultan of Oman and then the people in Pakistan, that's really important that they're involved in this and they're helping us get to a solution on this.

00:12:07.480 So we are we're really excited about that.

00:12:11.220 Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the eventual deal will have to go further than the MOU, which we agree with that, and not only curb nuclear ambitions from Iran, but also further terrorist activity by Iran and Iran-sponsored organizations.

00:12:27.820 And here is SOT1 where Secretary Rubio talks about that.

00:12:31.820 Are you trying to ease concerns to allies here in the region?

00:12:35.100 That most certainly will come up in these conversations.

00:12:38.500 And there are items outside the MOU that are certainly going to be covered,

00:12:41.240 but that's one that will have to be covered.

00:12:42.640 It will be discussed.

00:12:43.860 I think a careful reading of the MOU will see that when you talk about, for example,

00:12:47.960 a complete end of hostilities in the entire region, well, that's not possible.

00:12:52.480 You can't have the end of hostilities and conflicts in the region 0.81

00:12:55.560 as long as Iranian proxies are launching missiles and drones from Iraq 0.87

00:12:59.760 and are participating in terrorism like Hamas did and like Heskala did. 0.50

00:13:03.700 So I do think it's covered by the MOU. And it is an issue that will be gotten to at the appropriate time in these negotiations. 0.81

00:13:11.680 It's absolutely covered by the MOU. In fact, I just read it to you where not only is Iran and its allies, okay, which would be these terrorist organizations, that they have, they, we're holding them to the same standard that we're holding Iran to. 0.78

00:13:26.620 And we're just assuming that they're proxies of them, right? 0.66

00:13:29.660 Just like if United Kingdom, if they had a spine, had helped us in this process,

00:13:35.820 we would be considering them an ally and they would be held to the same standards that we're held to.

00:13:40.220 So the whole United Kingdom without a spy is another episode, which we'll talk about one day.

00:13:46.920 But there's also been some criticism from Republicans.

00:13:49.780 In fact, Ted Cruz says that history teaches that giving billions of dollars to theocratic lunatics who want to murder us is not a good idea.

00:13:59.020 Now, Ted knows this.

00:14:01.460 OK, Senator Cruz and I know Senator Cruz as well.

00:14:05.400 But Ted knows that we're not giving them money.

00:14:09.320 The money that's been restricted is their money.

00:14:12.520 OK, it's money that, you know, through businesses or whatever that they've accumulated.

00:14:17.020 And we are, if assuming everything goes well with these final negotiations, going to lift those restrictions.

00:14:22.020 But we're not giving the money. OK, I want to make sure everybody understands that.

00:14:26.780 Lindsey Graham says, well, let's try a diplomatic solution. I think it's going to fail.

00:14:31.020 And then what happens next? That's a very good question, Senator Graham.

00:14:35.060 I understand Senator Graham in this particular issue is probably one of the most hawkish of anyone.

00:14:43.240 If you I've talked about him before and that, you know, he was one of the big supporters of this conflict with Iran. 0.99

00:14:51.680 And, you know, I'm glad we did it. And we will talk about that as well. 0.86

00:14:55.380 But we'll see what happens. That's all that you can do.

00:14:59.320 I mean, we don't know the answer to that. I think I'm cautiously optimistic, but it wouldn't surprise me if Iran, you know, breaks this deal, whether soon or whether in the next few years. 0.84

00:15:11.540 they broke the deal that we did through Obama. You know, they were enriching uranium right a 0.64

00:15:17.620 long way of not allowing inspectors in and all that. So I think they're dealing with a different

00:15:21.920 president and hopefully a different mindset as well. The other thing that's happened,

00:15:25.920 and we're going to talk about this in just a second, is how does it compare to the deal that

00:15:31.540 Obama did? We called the, I think they called it the JCPOA. Yeah. The last quote is that Senator

00:15:38.820 Tom Cotton credited President Trump for making Iran weaker than it's been in decades, but said

00:15:44.240 certain aspects of this deal are a step, and he believes, is the wrong direction. We need to make

00:15:49.560 sure they don't squander the leverage that we've built. That's a good point. I think, listen,

00:15:54.300 I know that President Trump doesn't like criticism, but sometimes constructive criticism,

00:15:59.560 and it's hard to find that in politics, honestly, but sometimes constructive criticism helps us

00:16:04.920 make better deals. And it helps us understand the situation better. So I don't fault these

00:16:11.020 senators for saying what's on their mind. Probably better if they did it in private,

00:16:16.840 but politics is done and public policy is done in a very public manner, obviously. And that's

00:16:23.040 the type of country we live in. If we were in Russia or one of these other places like Iran and

00:16:28.460 others, there's nothing public about what they do. So I'm glad that they're doing this.

00:16:33.820 I would just ask them to be supportive of getting the very best deal that we can.

00:16:41.560 And I'm going to go over that in a minute.

00:16:42.980 You know, it's really interesting that people that are complaining,

00:16:46.060 and I'm not talking about these three senators,

00:16:47.920 but that people are complaining the whole time about the war

00:16:50.740 are complaining about how we're stopping the war.

00:16:54.600 You can't have it both ways, okay?

00:16:56.640 Either you're happy that we're stopping it no matter what,

00:16:59.660 because some of you didn't believe that there was even a potential for Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

00:17:07.360 Some of you didn't believe that.

00:17:09.980 And therefore, what do you care how it stopped, right?

00:17:13.360 You just wanted it to stop, but now you're complaining about that.

00:17:16.080 We lost very few servicemen in this, and I know one's too many, servicemen and women,

00:17:20.740 but we lost very few in this. 0.91

00:17:22.280 We put a lot of damage on the country of Iran and their power structure and their leadership structure.

00:17:29.660 In fact, when you compare it to the JCPOA that Obama signed into place, there's pretty big differences in that in exchange for significant sanctions relief and access to frozen assets,

00:17:44.800 Iran agreed to strict limitations on its nuclear program, including reducing its centrifuges, limiting uranium enrichment and allowing international inspectors.

00:17:54.380 However, Iran kept enriching uranium anyway, built its nuclear program, and I never allowed any inspectors.

00:18:01.020 And there wasn't any mechanism to do anything about it. 0.86

00:18:03.440 We never did one thing about that.

00:18:05.760 Not one thing.

00:18:06.740 I don't think there was one legitimate inspector that ever went into Iran after the JCPOA deal.

00:18:14.340 In 2026, the Trump's agreement is not yet a nuclear deal.

00:18:19.580 It is a memorandum of understanding that serves as a ceasefire, and the nuclear deal is going to be negotiated.

00:18:25.840 Now, I will tell you, if we can't get that negotiated, there could be other hostilities,

00:18:30.520 because I do not believe that Trump is just going to walk away from this without achieving his primary objective, nor should he, in my opinion.

00:18:38.380 Another difference in how the JCPOA versus this memorandum of understanding and our long-term potential deal is,

00:18:45.100 is that our agreement came after, as I said just a few minutes ago, a series of military operations

00:18:52.700 against their nuclear facilities, which did much to weaken the regime. And we hope it leads to a 0.56

00:19:00.540 stronger, full agreement. In fact, Vice President Vance, who I said was over in Switzerland right

00:19:06.460 now, discussed the differences between the JCPOA and what the deal is now in SOT2. 0.81

00:19:13.820 You have to remember, in 2015, Iran had built a sophisticated nuclear weapons program with

00:19:19.940 a nuclear weapons stockpile.

00:19:21.480 So the perspective that we came at as the United States was, you already have a really

00:19:25.880 nice nuclear program, we're going to bribe you with American money in order to stop it.

00:19:30.880 Our perspective, and where we're coming at it, is we already destroyed your nuclear program.

00:19:36.040 And so if you promise and show verifiable pathways to not rebuild it,

00:19:43.060 then we're willing to give you some sanctions relief and things like that.

00:19:46.740 So it's a fundamentally different perspective.

00:19:49.140 Well, that is very good way to put that.

00:19:52.020 It's just a different way to look at it.

00:19:54.000 What we did in 2015 or what Obama did as our president in 2015,

00:20:00.120 he said, OK, look, here's a bunch of money.

00:20:03.120 Please stop doing what you're doing.

00:20:04.760 And they said, OK, we'll take the money and we'll stop doing what we're doing.

00:20:07.600 And then, you know, didn't stop.

00:20:09.320 It's kind of like having a child and counting to three with no consequences, and you might as well have counted to 3,000.

00:20:16.560 If you don't have consequences after the count of three or whatever it is your family does when a child is acting up, then they're going to learn that pretty quickly.

00:20:26.260 And what happened here was is that we had been talking to them, telling them, okay, that, hey, you need to stop this.

00:20:33.940 We're going to do something about it.

00:20:35.100 you know, Trump pulled out of the JCPOA agreement in 2018, I think. And they just didn't pay

00:20:42.900 attention to us. We got reports from IAEA that they felt like they were at 60% enrichment and

00:20:50.600 you could go to 90% within a few weeks. So we bombed the place and we believe that we buried

00:20:57.000 their enriched uranium well under, you know, hundreds and hundreds of feet, if not thousands 0.82

00:21:02.620 under the earth. And so we're saying, look, we're going to do more of this if you don't straighten

00:21:07.660 up and we'll come to an agreement. We'll release your funds and all that. We don't have anything

00:21:13.080 against. We don't, we're not trying to take over the country. We're just saying, we're not going

00:21:17.160 to allow you to be a threat to us or people that are our friends in the region. That's what we're

00:21:21.940 saying. And we'll see if that works out or not. I don't know the answer to that. Nobody knows the

00:21:27.960 answer to that. We can only deal with the facts that we know. Anybody that tells you they know

00:21:31.920 the answer to that, don't know what they're talking about. Anyway, that's what that's up

00:21:35.560 today on Iran. I know it was a lot of information and I'm sorry it took so long to go through that,

00:21:40.120 but I just thought it's very important. And there were, there could be, by the time this comes out

00:21:44.420 in a couple of days, there could be some more stuff that has happened this week.

00:21:48.640 And we'll just keep following that.

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00:23:36.400 All right. Now, the next thing I want to talk about is America 250. Where are we and where

00:23:42.620 are we going? I thought this is a pretty good time to do that. You know, July 4th,

00:23:48.100 Allie's told you that's her favorite holiday of the year.

00:23:50.220 It's our family's favorite holiday of the year.

00:23:52.200 Our church service coming up this Sunday,

00:23:55.720 they will pay special tribute to all the different armed forces.

00:24:01.120 And they always have a member, a former member,

00:24:05.960 usually a retired member of each level of armed forces,

00:24:11.200 the Coast Guard, the Marines, the Navy, the Army, the Air Force.

00:24:17.640 They'll have all of those represented, all of those branches of our military represented by generally a retired gentleman in his full dress uniform, whatever that happens to be.

00:24:30.360 And maybe a couple of them are in a combat uniform.

00:24:33.140 And then when they call out the U.S. Navy, they'll play the Navy song while that guy's standing there saluting.

00:24:40.960 And they'll do the same thing for the Air Force and the same thing for the Marines.

00:24:44.700 And I always look over there at Lisa when we're watching that, and she's always shedding a tear, as we all probably should.

00:24:52.780 And I always think that's a very special day and a special time.

00:24:55.420 So I hope you're attending some of those things that are going to be going on.

00:24:59.280 Your kids need to understand.

00:25:01.720 It's not just, yes, we're going to have fun and fun and games, but they also need to understand what we're really celebrating.

00:25:07.020 We're celebrating something that no other country has really been able to celebrate.

00:25:10.740 At least no other democracy, republic like ours has been able to celebrate.

00:25:16.620 So it's pretty darn exciting.

00:25:18.920 Now, it is interesting, though, because we're so politically divided in the U.S.

00:25:24.360 that polls actually show pretty big frustration on how things are working today.

00:25:32.140 And there's apprehension about what the future will decide.

00:25:35.100 Now, in my opinion, even though they're showing a lot of apprehension, it's for different reasons.

00:25:42.940 All right. And here let me go. I'll go through that in just a minute.

00:25:45.240 First of all, let's talk about the American dream.

00:25:47.280 I've got a lot of polling information for you here.

00:25:50.660 Republicans are far more optimistic than other groups, with 57 percent saying the American dream remains valid compared to just 24 percent of independents and 17 percent of Democrats.

00:26:02.100 Also, men are more likely than women to believe in it as are older adults compared to younger ones.

00:26:08.400 You see, I think the reason these numbers are what they are is that for the Republicans that are worried about the American dream,

00:26:17.960 they're not worried about it because of things that Republicans are doing from a policy standpoint.

00:26:24.400 They're worried about it because of the people like Mandami, right, in New York and AOC, that they're worried that one day they'll take over our government and we'll be living under the policies that they have.

00:26:38.700 And that's something that makes them not certain about the American dream.

00:26:43.440 So it doesn't mean they're unhappy with the way things are today, but they have genuine fears, right?

00:26:48.900 And I think the reason women are more than men is because women generally have a little bit more of a cautionary look at things and they become fearful for their families.

00:27:05.100 Right. Whereas a man in our background of the one that needs to be in generally the one that's out there on the front lines providing, I know there's a lot of women in the workforce and you know that I support that.

00:27:18.900 But just kind of the psyche of how we're made up makes us not near as sensitive to danger, maybe sometimes as we should be, but not serious, sensitive danger, willing to take the risk to move through it.

00:27:31.940 So, again, just because a Republican might 40, what, 43 percent might not be as positive on the American dream.

00:27:40.740 It's not because of necessary Republican policies.

00:27:43.520 It's because of they fear the takeover of the far left and the policies they bring to the table.

00:27:49.940 Nearly half of Americans age 60 and older still believe in the American dream.

00:27:53.440 There we go. Baby boomers. We're still doing it. We're still carrying the load. Keep on. 1.00

00:27:57.040 All right, we're going to bring you millennials and Gen Zs and Gen Ys and Gen X, all of you along with us.

00:28:03.520 You'll be there. But we still believe in the American dream.

00:28:06.640 Many of us have lived the American dream.

00:28:08.260 And if you've read my book, Life Lessons from the Little Red Wagon, you know that our family has certainly lived the American dream.

00:28:14.160 And we owe a lot, first to our creator and our savior, but also to the men and women before us that sacrificed so much so that we could be able to live the dream.

00:28:24.860 Only a third, only about one in five adults or 20% under 30 feel the same way.

00:28:31.180 And that's probably from a lack of experience, life experiences so far.

00:28:36.020 They've lived through some, you know, pretty tumultuous times.

00:28:39.240 In 2016, for example, when President Trump was first elected, that's been 10 years ago now.

00:28:48.720 and the people that are 30 were 20 years old

00:28:54.380 and the ones that are 25 were 15.

00:28:55.960 So they've lived through some very divisive times.

00:29:00.660 No question about that.

00:29:02.340 So I can see where that would make them,

00:29:04.220 hey, what does the future hold?

00:29:05.320 Is it going to get even more divisive?

00:29:07.580 And we have a full screen that will come up

00:29:10.780 that shows you the confidence in the financial situation

00:29:14.040 by people at certain age groups

00:29:16.960 in certain demographics.

00:29:20.320 And you can see that there is concern

00:29:22.020 about the financial future.

00:29:23.680 And that inflation has something to do with that,

00:29:26.000 which during the Biden era, that went way up.

00:29:28.560 And then it went down.

00:29:30.040 And then it's been back up lately

00:29:31.460 because of our conflict with Iran.

00:29:33.340 So I can understand why people feel that way.

00:29:36.780 Nine in 10 Americans say freedom of speech

00:29:38.960 and the right to vote are important

00:29:40.460 to the nation's identity.

00:29:42.400 While eight in 10 feel the same

00:29:44.120 about freedom of religion.

00:29:45.360 A smaller but still majority share, 57 percent, view the right to keep and bear arms as important.

00:29:51.460 About half of the public, 46 percent, sees freedom of speech as facing a major threat today.

00:29:56.820 And again, I think that's on both sides.

00:29:58.980 I think there are equal number of people on the right and on the left that think freedom of speech is under attack.

00:30:06.120 We think it's under attack on the right because the left controls most of the media

00:30:11.780 And because what we went through with Biden by the lawfare and the weaponization, and even what we went through with Obama, remember how the IRS went after a bunch of conservative organizations?

00:30:22.520 We believe that freedom of speech is under attack on that.

00:30:25.520 The left believes that freedom of speech is under attack because of President Trump and how he responds to the media and how he doesn't tolerate the left-wing media to dominate him.

00:30:39.340 And that's why I believe, because there's so much Trump derangement syndrome, that's why I believe that they're concerned about it.

00:30:46.660 Democrats are much more likely than Republicans and independents to view the right to vote and freedom of speech as under major threat.

00:30:53.180 Now, see, that's really interesting, especially on the right to vote, because what the Democrats are saying on the right to vote is they don't think we should have any restrictions on voting.

00:31:04.840 In other words, we shouldn't do voter ID. We shouldn't do, you know, identity checks, any of that type of stuff.

00:31:12.200 You don't have, in fact, in a lot of places in local elections, like they're trying to get done in L.A., not even have citizens.

00:31:18.000 You don't have to be a citizen to vote, which is totally crazy.

00:31:21.360 So they don't see it as protecting the integrity of voting.

00:31:25.680 They see it as if we don't let people vote that aren't really legally allowed to vote, if we don't let them do that, then we're suppressing, which is totally, totally wrong.

00:31:39.040 That just doesn't make any sense.

00:31:41.940 And Sot 3 talks about NBC News report on how Republicans versus Democrats, which is more proud to be American.

00:31:54.080 Again, 56% overall have an extremely or very, very much proud of the country.

00:32:00.180 It's 29% among Democrats.

00:32:02.540 It's 90% among Republicans.

00:32:04.620 Look at that staggering gap between the parties.

00:32:07.000 Look at it on the other end here.

00:32:08.380 Only a little or not proud at all.

00:32:10.220 It's 36% among Democrats.

00:32:12.640 That number among Democrats, it's higher on the low end there than it is on the extremely proud.

00:32:16.800 And it's only 3% for Republicans.

00:32:18.720 So a massive partisan divide on that question of being proud to be an American.

00:32:23.160 Look at that. That is just amazing. You heard what he said if you're just listening to it, but that's, I tell you what, that means on the Democrat side, you're going to elect people that don't even aren't even proud to be an American. I mean, that's just absolutely. And some of the recent elections have shown that some of the primaries, you know, a socialist have had a big run in the Democrat Party.

00:32:44.740 the Democrat Party is being taken over by socialists. Just make sure that if you're a

00:32:50.500 Democrat, you're supporting socialism. If you're not supporting it, then what are you going to do

00:32:55.700 to change it within your own party? And I talked about that, I think, on the last episode, where

00:33:01.280 I think the socialists and Green Party people are taking over the Democrat Party like the

00:33:06.200 Libertarians are trying to do the same thing with the Republican Party. Now, let's look ahead to

00:33:11.380 2050. Where are we going to be in 25 years when we're 300 years old, you know? What would that

00:33:17.480 be? No, that'd be, I'm sorry, 275 years old. Excuse me. I should know my math. Two-thirds

00:33:24.920 of Americans expect the country to be even more divided than it is today, with most seeing no

00:33:30.740 end in sight to the deep divisions. The public has split on race relations, with half predicting

00:33:36.800 they will improve over the next 25 years, and the other half expecting them

00:33:41.040 to get worse. Wow. On most other issues,

00:33:45.180 pessimism outweighs optimism. More than half of U.S.

00:33:48.960 adults believe that by 2050, the country will play a less important role in the world,

00:33:53.300 be less prosperous, and become a more dangerous place to live.

00:33:58.320 And will have a worse system of government.

00:34:01.140 Despite the overall gloom, Americans' expectations for a future have grown more

00:34:04.980 positive since 2023, with noticeably increases in the shares who expected the U.S. to be more

00:34:11.040 important globally, less politically divided, and economically stronger than 2050. And I think

00:34:16.180 that's to the tribute of the Republicans winning the majorities in 2024. People are generally more

00:34:22.020 optimistic about that than Democrats are, and I think that's a good thing. You know, interesting,

00:34:28.300 I'm just telling you, those are Allie's primary audience. 0.97

00:34:33.300 It's going to be up to you to make sure that we are more prosperous.

00:34:38.740 We are more, you know, we are less divided.

00:34:42.260 We are more unified.

00:34:44.380 It won't be up to people my age, all right?

00:34:46.680 We are entering the time period where we have some influence, but our influence isn't as great.

00:34:52.220 We're not running the companies.

00:34:53.560 We're not running the government.

00:34:54.720 We're not, you know, we're grandparents, and so we have influence, but you that are the parents and you that are the CEOs and you that are the business owners and you that are the new congressmen and state representatives and city council, you're going to be responsible for what happens over the next 25 years.

00:35:15.940 And the best way to know what to do is to look at the past to learn what to do and what not to do.

00:35:22.300 So anyway, a couple of viewer questions on this. How should I explain my optimism for our country to folks who say burn the flag?

00:35:31.020 Well, the right that they have to burn the flag should give everybody optimism because that means that we're protecting people's freedoms.

00:35:41.600 And remember, people generally believe what they want to believe.

00:35:45.160 If they want to have an open discussion and you listen to their points and you listen and they listen to your points, then I think it's worth doing.

00:35:52.300 But otherwise, I don't think it's a waste of your time and effort to do that.

00:35:57.680 As a Christian, I still struggle with fear over the future of America.

00:36:01.340 How do I calm down?

00:36:02.820 Well, first of all, I think making sure that you're informed.

00:36:06.280 And sometimes information, I know, can be depressing.

00:36:08.640 But you better be informed than non-informed, all right?

00:36:12.180 And listen to podcasts like this.

00:36:14.040 I've come on here every couple of weeks and talk about things that I think are important that people should know from a biblical perspective.

00:36:21.080 Allie is on here three times a week herself talking about all sorts of things and has great guests on here.

00:36:27.620 So just keep plugged into things like this.

00:36:30.480 Also, just know that, as Allie says, God's plan is going off without a hitch, and that always will be the case.

00:36:40.300 Now, he does expect us to do our part as well.

00:36:43.980 We are expected to spread the word.

00:36:47.100 We're expected to live a life of morality.

00:36:50.320 We're expected to raise our families, love our families, teach them, and we're also expected to respect our government.

00:36:59.040 And so I believe that as Christians, we should be the ones leading the way to make sure there's a better America and there's a better world to live in.

00:37:08.260 One of the things that I wanted to do before we get into the final viewer questions, I know that we have not done as well at this as we should have.

00:37:17.680 So I said, you know, we talk about a lot of negative things on here, but I looked up this week some good things that have happened in America.

00:37:26.440 And I want to go over those. I've written them down, so I'll be looking down and reading it.

00:37:29.920 But I want you to know about those. Here's a couple of things that have happened that are really good for the traditional family, for the faith believer, for the conservative.

00:37:39.080 These are things that are going on that you may not be aware of.

00:37:41.440 Several states, including Tennessee and Oklahoma, recently advanced or expanded tax credits and benefits aimed at helping single-income traditional households.

00:37:52.960 These policies were framed as strengthening families and giving parents more freedom to raise children at home.

00:37:59.440 The U.S. Congress should look at that.

00:38:01.080 We need to get rid of the marriage penalty, which still exists.

00:38:03.960 So my friends in Congress, please take that up in the next budget bill to get rid of the marriage penalty, to make it so that it is actually better if you're married in a traditional family, even if it's a single income.

00:38:18.820 The other thing is marriage rates are rising in several counties.

00:38:23.260 New county level data from parts of Utah, Idaho and the Carolinas show a measurable uptick in marriage license issued this spring.

00:38:31.680 A small but real positive trend for people who value traditional family foundation.

00:38:39.120 Also, there are small towns around the country that are reporting major drops in crime.

00:38:43.800 Several sheriff's departments, including in the Texas Hill Country and rural Georgia, reported double-digit decreases in burglary and property crime over the last quarter.

00:38:53.940 Officials credit community watch programs and strong local engagement.

00:38:57.680 You have to be engaged.

00:38:59.420 You can't complain about what's going on in your community if you're not engaged.

00:39:04.880 Classical education schools are expanding.

00:39:07.760 Classical charter schools, which emphasize Western civics, traditional curriculum, and character formation,

00:39:17.040 have seen campuses approved in Florida, Arizona, and North Carolina within the last month.

00:39:22.440 Many families see this as a return to academic rigor and cultural roots.

00:39:26.920 I know that all of our grandkids are in some type of classical Christian education, and we have been incredibly pleased with it.

00:39:34.820 It's been awesome.

00:39:37.500 Veterans groups are launching new programs, mentorship programs.

00:39:40.940 Veteran-led nonprofits in Ohio, Texas, and South Dakota launch new mentorship programs pairing older vets with young men lacking stable father figures.

00:39:50.840 So important.

00:39:52.760 A very traditional community-driven approach.

00:39:55.380 And then here's another thing that I'm really excited about. Skilled trades are seeing record enrollment. Trade schools or vocational schools or technical schools, whatever you happen to call them in your area, in states like Indiana and Alabama reported their highest enrollment in a decade.

00:40:12.820 Many programs specifically highlight the dignity of work, apprenticeships, and pass to stable family-supporting incomes without college debt.

00:40:25.300 That is so awesome.

00:40:28.120 The last thing is several states passed measures in the last month to protect family-owned farms from land consolidation and foreign purchases.

00:40:35.240 I know we did that in Texas.

00:40:37.140 A win for rural communities and generational stewardship.

00:40:40.140 So those are some good things that are happening.

00:40:41.540 Not everything is negative. OK, there are a lot of good things going on.

00:40:45.120 And if you know some good stories that you think would be beneficial to the audience, Ali's audience, send those to me.

00:40:52.340 OK, Ron at Ron Simmons dot com. Also, any other questions that you might have, send those to me.

00:40:57.220 Ron at Ron Simmons dot com. But I want to hear some good stories. I think those would be awesome.

00:41:01.720 Now, we're going to finish up here in the next few minutes by taking by going over a few questions that you guys are so good about sending in.

00:41:09.120 um it's how did i know that my wife was the one you because they said how did he know me

00:41:18.160 knew that ali's mom was the one you know i don't know how that happens it just i mean i had

00:41:25.380 girlfriends before i met lisa when i was in high school and and even um you know in between high

00:41:31.060 school and college lisa and i met as freshmen in college uh we had two classes this is the way

00:41:36.320 Lisa describes it. We had two classes together in the same class. We had biology and psychology

00:41:41.680 together and both of them worked. And now we've been together almost 47 years, but I do think

00:41:47.280 God lays it on your heart. I just knew that she was the one, the way it was in my heart.

00:41:59.800 I mean, it's my fortune that she's also beautiful and talented and all that. But

00:42:03.880 But I think even without that, God had laid that on my heart.

00:42:08.580 We were, and we still are, very different.

00:42:11.380 Our personalities are very different.

00:42:13.380 But God knew that I needed that balancing.

00:42:16.440 And I think that he knew on her part that she needed some of the characteristics that I would bring to the table.

00:42:21.820 So that's what happened.

00:42:23.540 And I think it's a matter of the heart.

00:42:25.220 There's no question about it.

00:42:26.400 It can't be a matter of the eyes, all right?

00:42:28.920 It has to be a matter of the heart.

00:42:30.420 what are the practical tips for discipling intense little boys? Oh, my middle child is a boy way

00:42:39.280 different than the first. Oh, I can understand what you're saying. We've got three grandsons

00:42:43.360 and we've got three granddaughters. And so while in some ways they're the same,

00:42:48.100 they are a lot different. In fact, our youngest grandson is the same age as Allie's oldest daughter.

00:42:54.940 And they are good buddies as cousins, but they are so different.

00:42:58.920 You know, boys are just, in a lot of ways, more aggressive.

00:43:02.880 We need for them to be that way.

00:43:04.640 I certainly recommend you read John Elvridge's book, Wild at Heart.

00:43:08.640 That's a very important book for parenting boys.

00:43:11.680 And while I think that you have to give them boundaries, especially physical boundaries

00:43:20.000 boundaries on behaviors that are acceptable and not acceptable, I do think that you've got to

00:43:25.540 allow them to get dirty. You've got to allow them to skin their knee. You've got to allow them to,

00:43:31.200 you know, maybe take a tumble occasionally. They have to be able to do that because they're

00:43:37.280 testing their boundaries on what they can and can't do. And they need to have confidence. In

00:43:44.400 order to be a successful man, you need to have confidence for sure. What's the best part of

00:43:49.560 going from parent to grandparent. Oh, that is so awesome. Being able to, when they're acting

00:43:55.600 improperly, to send them home. That's the best part. And to spoil them. I'm sorry, that's part

00:44:02.560 of the grandparent's role. Our life, most grandparent's life is at a lot calmer stage

00:44:08.460 than it was maybe when we were raising children. And so we don't have the stress levels that exist

00:44:17.200 as much of a career or maybe finance, things like that. Wherever we are, we are. It doesn't

00:44:23.780 matter if you're rich or not. Generally by our age, we have decided where we're going to be.

00:44:31.420 We're not under huge amounts of financial stress and we're not under job pressures as much. So

00:44:38.200 I think we have a calmer life and that makes being able to deal with our grandchildren and

00:44:44.620 to enjoy them more than we may have been able to do at the same stages of the lives of our

00:44:50.100 children, unfortunately. But in our case, that's probably the way it has been.

00:44:55.900 How do we deal with the grief of empty nesting? Wow, that's an interesting question. You know,

00:45:01.840 Lisa and I were only empty nesters for a very short time because of our middle son, Daniel,

00:45:07.940 who has some disabilities and lives with us now.

00:45:13.380 There was a period of time where he didn't,

00:45:15.160 so we were empty nesters when Allie was off to college

00:45:18.540 and a little bit after,

00:45:19.600 and while Daniel was living independently.

00:45:25.120 So I don't know exactly how to help you on that.

00:45:28.980 I do think that it is a normal stage.

00:45:31.880 One of the things that if you would have asked me this

00:45:34.040 before that you became an empty nest,

00:45:36.720 I would tell you to make sure that you have something going on that's important in your life

00:45:41.500 outside of your kids. Lisa's songwriting was important to her. I still have got some my

00:45:49.660 fingers in some different business scenarios. So that that keeps me, you know, I think mentally

00:45:56.180 acute and not sitting there just thinking about, OK, all my kids are going to be, you know,

00:46:01.840 so much involved in them that I want to be controlling them.

00:46:05.240 But you do need to be engaged in things that bring you self-worth as opposed to just raising children.

00:46:13.880 But there are times that we certainly miss, you know, not being with our kids as much as we want to or doing things.

00:46:20.220 I'll tell you what, the things that now that we can afford it in a lot of ways to spend time with our kids and grandkids,

00:46:25.820 it's kind of like cats in the cradle.

00:46:27.200 They're busy doing other things and they've got a life of their own.

00:46:30.200 And what we can't do, what you can't do is you can't make your kids feel guilty for living their own lives.

00:46:36.720 All right. You just can't make them do that.

00:46:38.440 And that's a struggle because sometimes, you know, what's even better for them is even as they're adults.

00:46:43.480 But over overdoing that is a problem and it will call it will cause resentment.

00:46:50.600 And we have to be careful. And I'm sure I've made mistakes in that area.

00:46:54.240 I usually have some pretty strong opinions about things, as you know.

00:46:57.200 So, but I try to work on that.

00:47:00.440 And fortunately, I've got some really good kids that give me a lot of grace.

00:47:05.040 What about parenting toddlers while grieving your mom?

00:47:07.320 Well, you have to grieve.

00:47:08.420 And I don't think you have to be ashamed of anything.

00:47:12.140 Again, if you or your spouse has sent, and you should probably ask your spouse,

00:47:18.820 hey, I want you to tell me if you think I'm, because of my grief, I'm not treating my kids properly.

00:47:25.200 All right?

00:47:25.880 Because you may, there may be something that you don't even see, but I think that you just

00:47:30.580 move through it the best that you can.

00:47:32.440 Okay.

00:47:32.960 You need some respite care when you're not having to take care of the little ones so

00:47:37.280 that you can just focus on the grieving process.

00:47:39.520 And hopefully you're able to figure that out.

00:47:42.040 But it, time will get better with that.

00:47:45.500 All right.

00:47:45.940 It will get better with that.

00:47:47.260 There aren't there's any question.

00:47:48.360 When Lisa's mom died, Lisa was, we had two little ones.

00:47:53.140 Justin was four years old.

00:47:55.900 Daniel was just born.

00:47:57.100 Maybe Justin wasn't even quite four yet when her mom died.

00:48:01.760 And so we had little ones.

00:48:03.040 And Lisa and her mom were pretty close.

00:48:05.040 Now, we had just moved away.

00:48:07.640 In some ways, that made it better.

00:48:08.900 Some ways, that made it worse, you know, from Arkansas to Texas.

00:48:13.140 And so she definitely grieved.

00:48:16.780 There's no question about it.

00:48:17.980 But the requirements of what it takes to raise two little children allowed her to not have to focus on the loss of her mother as much.

00:48:29.520 And I think you use the children will help you with the grieving process because your number one responsibility every day is with those kids and with your spouse.

00:48:40.740 And while we can grieve for our parents when they're gone, hopefully we know where they are.

00:48:45.480 and they're in glory in a perfect body

00:48:49.360 and, you know, hopefully being able to look down on us and smile.

00:48:55.820 Let's see here.

00:48:59.280 How to talk to others who have growing sentiment towards socialism.

00:49:04.560 You know, the only thing I think you can do with those types of people

00:49:07.200 is you just have to say,

00:49:08.660 just give me an example of the countries that have succeeded long term in doing that

00:49:13.560 and they can't come up with one.

00:49:16.400 And where does socialism end?

00:49:19.040 If they're so interested in socialism,

00:49:21.780 why don't they sell everything they have

00:49:23.680 and distribute it among all their friends?

00:49:28.300 Socialism is socialism except for when it comes to me.

00:49:32.200 And then I still want all of my stuff, right?

00:49:35.960 Let's see here.

00:49:40.320 A sibling celebrated Charlie Kirk's death

00:49:43.360 and my parents are angry that I got mad.

00:49:48.740 What do I do?

00:49:49.720 Well, first of all, you don't apologize for that.

00:49:53.180 Nobody should have celebrated the death of somebody like that,

00:49:56.360 especially someone that they know was important to you.

00:49:59.840 And the parents are way out of line on that.

00:50:02.520 If you want to be mad about that,

00:50:04.620 you should have a discussion with it with your sibling and then move on.

00:50:09.060 But the parents don't need to be mad at you about that.

00:50:12.120 In fact, what they need to do is be mad at the sibling for celebrating that.

00:50:16.560 That is as wrong as anything.

00:50:18.900 And so I would have a discussion with both of them and say, hey, I think it was inappropriate.

00:50:23.400 You shouldn't be mad at me because, you know, my brother Joe or whomever this is, you know, celebrated the death of a good person.

00:50:35.020 Tell me what about Charlie wasn't good.

00:50:37.760 Please be specific in telling me what was about Charlie that wasn't good.

00:50:42.120 What did he do that was bad, that should cause for the celebration of his death?

00:50:47.520 And for you to be mad at me over that.

00:50:50.060 That's the type of conversation I would have.

00:50:58.040 Which team is he supporting this World Cup apart from the USA?

00:51:02.500 Well, Daniel loves England, and so he'll support England,

00:51:06.680 and so I'll support Daniel through that.

00:51:08.380 USA, though, is kind of, you know, it's USA or nothing as far as I'm concerned.

00:51:13.520 Now, there's a lot of good teams.

00:51:15.120 I don't think USA will actually win the World Cup, but I hope that they go far.

00:51:21.280 And I've been very pleased with the way the reception of America has given to the teams that have come play here and the fans.

00:51:30.940 and I read all the reports about how positive the fan experience has been

00:51:36.240 in the cities that these teams are playing in, and I applaud that.

00:51:40.800 I just hope that can continue going through the end of the World Cup.

00:51:45.340 Anyway, I hope you've enjoyed today.

00:51:48.120 I know it was a lot of detail of information,

00:51:50.880 but I want you to think about, as you listen to this,

00:51:54.800 you'll be probably a week or so away from July the 4th,

00:51:59.100 And just think about, take some time to reflect on how thankful that you are for the country that we live in and how it was formed.

00:52:08.000 And if you're interested in knowing what faith role, the role that faith played in that, read any of David Barton, David Barton's materials on faith.

00:52:17.780 I think Ali's had him on the podcast in the past.

00:52:19.920 If he has, maybe we can put that in the show, that episode in the show notes.

00:52:22.940 But just look at that, look into that.

00:52:24.980 And you can see where God's hand was on the creation.

00:52:29.820 It's been on the hand of this country for a long, long time.

00:52:33.120 And we have a responsibility to live up to the values that he has asked us and instructed us to live up to.

00:52:41.940 And I hope that you'll continue doing that.

00:52:45.880 And I always wish the best for you and your family.

00:52:48.600 And thank you very much for supporting Allie's podcast.

00:52:51.940 Again, if you have any questions that you want me to try to answer for you,

00:52:55.620 ron at ronsimmons.com.

00:52:57.080 If I haven't answered them, please resend it to me

00:52:59.500 because somehow it got down the bottom of my email

00:53:02.200 and I have somehow overlooked it.

00:53:04.900 And I apologize for that.

00:53:05.920 So we'll see you later.

00:53:06.720 Take care.

00:53:07.040 Have a good day.

00:53:21.940 Thank you.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 27, 2026

Conservatives Split： Is Trump’s Iran Deal a Mistake？｜ Ron Simmons

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 27, 2026

Conservatives Split： Is Trump’s Iran Deal a Mistake？ ｜ Ron Simmons

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Conservatives Split： Is Trump’s Iran Deal a Mistake？｜ Ron Simmons