Ep 1004 ｜ Harrison Butker Calls Out IVF, Abortion & Feminism ｜ Guest： Ron Simmons
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Summary
On today's episode of Relatable, my dad joins me to talk about everything that's going on in the political world, and answer some of your questions! Pro-life advocates have been sentenced to federal prison for opposing the murder of babies. Also, Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker told the truth in a commencement address, and he's getting so much blowback for it. We ve got all that and a big announcement on today s episode of RELatable.
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Pro-life advocates have been sentenced to federal prison for opposing the murder of
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Also, Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker told the truth in a commencement address, and he is
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And also, we've got my dad here to break down everything that's going on in the political
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We've got all that and a big announcement on today's episode of Relatable.
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Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
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Oh my goodness, we finally made our big announcement last night.
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We posted the announcement video everywhere on every channel that we have.
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The response has just completely exceeded my expectations and goals.
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If this is the first time that you are hearing me announce it, let me tell you what's going
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Instead of just telling you all of the details right here, I am going to play you the video
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that we put together that explains why exactly I'm hosting this event.
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Like most moms, I find myself worrying about the world my children will grow up in.
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The America of my childhood was patriotic, hardworking, and family-focused.
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Yes, we had our challenges, but nothing like what we face today.
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There was no confusion over whether boys can become girls.
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We could visit the library and go to school without worrying about being force-fed politics
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We were moving into a world in which people prioritized the content of someone's character
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over the color of their skin, their class, or their political affiliation.
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The age we occupy now is wrought with confusion and chaos.
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We face threats to security everywhere we look.
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War, lawlessness, depraved indoctrination, bloodthirst, division.
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And there are moments when we just want to go back.
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Back to the days of our childhood, when things were simpler, better.
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We have no choice but to face the challenges of our day head-on.
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Because we serve a God who placed us here, right now, on purpose.
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God knew the exact obstacles you and I would face.
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And just as He has for every generation of Christians, He will equip us.
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Jesus has given us not a spirit of fear, but of power and courage.
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Courage to stand up against the enemy and to share the arrows with other Christians
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who serve as a refuge of clarity and courage in an age of chaos, cowardice, and confusion.
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If you're a Christian woman, you're invited to my Share the Arrows event,
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where you will be emboldened by some of the most important Christian voices of our day.
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Rosaria Butterfield, Elisa Childers, and Abby Halberstadt.
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You'll get to worship with Grammy Award-winning artist Francesca Battistelli
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and fellowship with like-minded Christian conservative women from all walks of life.
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And there is actually one more speaker that we are trying to get.
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A lot of you had questions about live streaming and different things like that.
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I've answered a lot of those on my Instagram stories.
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And I will make a highlight of that because those are frequently asked questions
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We tried to make it as easy as possible to get to.
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We have a lot of related gals, related pals in Dallas.
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And so we wanted it to be in a place that's really a hub for a lot of you.
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So go ahead, snag that early bird pricing at sharethearrows.com.
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And just a warning, I'm going to be talking about this event a lot from now until September.
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I will try not to make you weary from talking about it, but I'm really just like so amped about it.
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And also, if you don't know, we say that term, share the arrows a lot.
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And it just means that we're not going to allow a fellow believer to stand alone and standing up against the progressive onslaught, the progressive assault that we are seeing on our culture, on our children.
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We're not going to allow them to take the arrows from the enemy alone.
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We are going to stand up with them and we are going to share the arrows that the opposition throws at us because we have been given the strength and the power to do so.
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You are going to be equipped, encouraged, empowered, all of those good things.
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We've just got one more announcement, and that is we are announcing the winners of the giveaway that we initiated with the thousandth episode last Thursday.
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So, Gabrielle, Tara, Hannah, you related bells, make sure that you check your messages.
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Maybe you don't want your last names publicized on the show.
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And so if your name is one of those three names and you entered this giveaway, make sure to check your messages.
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And you have won all of the amazing prizes included in the giveaway.
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Before we get into a conversation with my dad, which, gosh, you're going to love.
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He just gives so much peaceful insight into the craziness and the chaos that's going on.
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And even though, I mean, the scariness and the depravity of this world is still waging, he has a way of making us feel like it's going to be okay.
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And that's why I love having him on the show, and that's why y'all love it, too.
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But let's get into some of that craziness that's going on that signifies just how far we've fallen.
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But also, I don't want it to just discourage you, because as Christians, we do shine brightest in the darkness.
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The church has traditionally been on the margins of society, and we read that the gates of hell will not even prevail against the church.
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Even the gates of hell will not prevail against the church.
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In Hebrews 13, 8, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
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So our call as Christians to glorify him, to advance his kingdom, to share his gospel, to defend the most vulnerable, namely children, it still stands.
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It has been our purpose since the very beginning of the church 2,000 years ago.
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And what we see in this evil society that we live in is we see a government that is punishing those who do good and celebrating those who do evil.
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And these pro-life advocates who were just sentenced for protesting against the murder of children is a perfect symbol of just the upside-down, morally-backwards world that we live in now.
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So let me give you a summary of what I'm talking about.
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In 2023, several members of the pro-life advocacy group Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising, P-A-A-U.
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So let me just say, like, this is an organization that I don't agree with in a lot of ways.
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We don't see eye-to-eye in a lot of ways, but they are anti-abortion, and I thank them for that.
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They were convicted of the freedom of access to clinic entrances, also known as the FACE Act, violations for supposedly blocking access on October 22, 2020 to the Washington Surgery Clinic, operated by the late-term abortionist Cesar Santangelo.
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You might remember a few years ago that the five babies that were actually found in the trash outside of this clinic, they were viable babies in that they were clearly late-term.
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They were between probably 20 and 28 weeks at that point.
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Like, the mother can feel the babies kicking inside the womb.
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They were found, in a lot of cases, dismembered, and I don't know how else to say it except for brutally tortured and torn apart.
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The skull caved in, which indicates that that late-term baby probably died by a DNX abortion, in which this is very graphic, but you have to know what many of these babies every year are going through.
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That the base of the skull is actually cut open, and the abortionist sucks the brain out of the baby as he is taking the baby out of the womb, out of the vaginal canal.
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That is a living, squirming baby that is being killed by having their brains sucked out.
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And we saw these pictures of these babies that were discarded.
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That is what these people are protesting against.
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These people who are a part of progressive anti-abortion uprising, they see the brutality of these babies being murdered, and they're saying, we're going to do something about it.
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That's why they were supposedly blocking the entrance of this horrific murder mill.
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And then on Tuesday of this week, a U.S. district court judge today sentenced three of 10 defendants who had been convicted of federal civil rights conspiracy and face act offenses.
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It prohibits anyone from obstructing the entrance to an abortion clinic or intimidating or interfering with a woman attempting to have her unborn baby exterminated.
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It is very rarely enforced, but we've got new management.
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They are going to punish those who do good, and they are going to celebrate those, again, who do wickedly.
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Lauren Hardy, 30 years old, was sentenced to 57 months in prison and three years of supervised release.
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John Hinshaw, 69, received 69 years old, received 21 months incarceration and three years of supervised release.
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William Goodman, 54, was sentenced to 27 months in prison and three years of supervised release.
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Then just yesterday, four additional defendants were sentenced for both federal civil rights conspiracy and face act offenses.
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Now, at the time, I did not realize that Herb is actually a woman, and the only reason I point that out is because I use pronouns that correspond with someone's biological reality.
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Because God made us, in his image, male and female, it is wonderful to be a woman.
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And I'm not going to lie, because God created Herb a woman, and that is a beautiful reality.
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And I don't want to deny that by calling her him, even though that is her preferred pronoun.
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So, she is a pro-life atheist, and she is very brave.
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We can put the description, or we can put the link to that show in the description.
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She was also sentenced to 27 months in federal prison.
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You talk to these people, you see these people, they are gentle people.
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They are kind, they are loving people, they are brave people.
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They are not these kind of violent left-wing activists that you see literally burning down cities and desecrating college campuses and federal property in these major Democrat-run cities.
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You can tell that they are on the right side of this.
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And I just remember from the conversation that I had with Herb that when she said, you know what, I can endure prison because these kids are enduring much worse than that.
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What she has to go through, she said, what she has to go through as a prisoner is nothing compared to the pain that these babies are having to go through.
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This is someone who doesn't believe in God, and she is showing more courage, more Christ-like courage than many of the outspoken evangelicals I know, who, by the way, say that they are social justice-minded.
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They had so much to say in the summer of 2020 about George Floyd and pushed false narratives about systemic racism in this country.
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In the name of Christian justice, they will have nothing to say about this.
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They had nothing positive to say about the overturning of Roe v. Wade.
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The literal systemic slaughter of unborn children is less important to them than perceived racism.
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Joan Bell, 76 years old, 76 years old, received 27 months incarceration and three years of supervised release.
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Jonathan Darnell, 42, was sentenced to 34 months and three years of supervised release.
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Jean Marshall, 74 years old, was sentenced to 24 months and three years of supervised release.
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We're talking about people who are almost 80 years old are going to be placed in prison.
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For supposedly blocking entrance to a clinic, which, like, by the way, blocking entrance to a clinic where they are murdering babies.
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Like, what actually deserves to be punished there?
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So Lauren Handy, one of the women who was sentenced, was one of those who found the remains of these poor babies.
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And, of course, they publicized it, and it turned into a story.
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It understandably caused a visceral reaction in a lot of people.
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Again, as we saw that they were performing, clearly, these DNX abortions, which are actually illegal.
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It's illegal to suck the brain out of a baby in an abortion.
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Now, all abortions are brutal and evil and painful.
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But that particular type of abortion was actually supposed to be banned a long time ago.
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It used to be more common than it was, like with Leroy Carhartt.
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However, it does seem to be happening at this clinic.
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And there was an undercover video that Live Action did all the way back in 2013 with this particular abortionist at this clinic,
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which led PAAU to believe that illegal activity was happening here.
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And they were hoping to hold this abortionist accountable.
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So that is the abortionist at Washington Surgery Clinic saying,
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yeah, you know, when a baby survives abortion, we just don't help it.
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Like, we saw, what was it, Ralph Northam, the then governor of Virginia a few years ago,
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oh, yeah, if a baby survives abortion, you put it off to the side,
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Like, I want you to think about how horrific that is.
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Jill Stanak was a nurse who she's testified before Congress.
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And she said that when she was a nurse, she went into a utility closet,
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and there was a little baby, 22 weeks old, with Down syndrome, who had been aborted,
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who had literally been placed in the utility closet at this clinic to die,
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So you can't tell me that anything that this group did to protest or to oppose this evil,
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barbaric practice is too much or deserves to be punished by the state.
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There's no justice for the DC Five, those five little babies who were brutally murdered
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But there is so-called justice, again, against those who opposed it.
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And the only thing that gives me comfort, just as disheartening as it is,
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the only thing that gives me comfort is the knowledge that one day Jesus is going to make
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I hope that we win an election this November, and not to say that that will change everything
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for the better, because as I'll talk about with my dad, we don't have a fully pro-life
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But I do hope that when we get better people in place in the DOJ, better people in the White
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House, better policymakers at the top, and now I think that conservatives have woken up to
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the fact of how hard we have to push for the things that we want, the things that will
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Like, I am hopeful that we will see better definitions of justice coming from the federal
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Because politics matter, because policy matters, because people matter.
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Like, these babies torn apart, that is a policy decision.
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It's a policy decision that we allow babies to be murdered.
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That is a choice that we have made, that voters have made, not you and I, but that voters
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It's not enough to just say Jesus is coming back.
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That he's not just sitting on his proverbial hands, letting everything happen.
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His wrath is being stored up, and it will be poured out.
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The evil one, Satan, will be destroyed forever.
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There will be vindication for every single baby that has been murdered.
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So that's what we have to trust, that God hates murder, that he hates, scripture tells
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He hates the injustice, the evil partiality that is going on here.
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And shame on every single social justice activist, so-called Christian who stands up against every
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single example of perceived discrimination or perceived injustice or perceived racism, and
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That just shows me, you want to go with the popular narratives, you want to go with whatever
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is going to get you approval by the left, whatever is going to get you an opportunity to write an
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op-ed in the New York Times, whatever is going to get you applause from the world, that's what
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And honestly, pastors, you got to be talking about this.
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It's okay to get political when politics intersects with theology, right?
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We are talking about the slaughter of children.
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I think that you should read this story from the pulpit, and you absolutely have every right
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in the office of pastor with your platform of the pulpit to condemn this administration,
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to condemn at the very least this action, and say that this is a perfect example of calling
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And I just pray for regeneration and revival and a reawakening in this country.
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And again, I just pray for the courage of Christians, that this would embolden us.
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I know that what the administration desires to do through this is to actually scare us,
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is to say, see, if you stand up against murder, we'll come after you too.
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We actually have to allow it to embolden us because these people, even some of them who
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don't believe in God, they counted the cost and they decided that it was worth it, standing
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And one thing that I just want to say too is that, and I should have said this probably
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at the beginning, but these people who have been arrested, they were nonviolent.
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This is according to Lila Rose, who has been reporting on this story closely.
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She said, while Lauren, this is Lauren Handy, has passed out roses and offered counseling
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and resources at many abortion facilities, Lauren and fellow defendants were convicted of
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violating the FACE Act, a law that has primarily been used to penalize pro-life activism for their
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participation in a nonviolent sit-in at Santangelo's Washington, D.C. late-term abortion facility.
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The mangled bodies of five nearly full-term infants were found at the same facility, as
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Many had injuries consistent with illegal activity, as we talked about the DNX, such as
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This conviction and sentence is completely unjust and will be appealed.
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So praying for justice for them, pray for them, pray for Herb, please, and all of these people
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who don't know Christ, pray for them that he would soften their hearts, that they would
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And this is also just an incredible quote from the testimony of the 69-year-old pro-life activist
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John Hinshaw, who was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison, who has spent his life serving
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He said, my wife knows that she carries our children from their beginning through eternity,
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but she knows that I cannot share the same bond because I am a man.
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There's a special maternal bond between child and mother.
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My granddaughter was born at 32 weeks gestation.
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He then goes on to say, how is it that my granddaughter is a treasure and the others are trash?
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There is a reason why today's gospel reading is to lay down one's life for his friends.
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I am sorry that I have failed in my vocation as a father to protect children.
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I am sorry to this court that it has failed in its vocation to protect its nation's children.
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So he is just saying, I wish I could have done more.
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The bravery and the courage and the love of these people, just pray for them and pray for
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All right, we don't have time to get into the whole next story that I wanted to discuss,
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and that is the kicker for the Chiefs, Harrison Butker.
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He gave a graduation speech at Benedictine College over the weekend.
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He is getting absolutely reamed for it because he is calling out Joe Biden, for example, for
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not living up to Catholic doctrines on things like abortion.
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Our own nation is led by a man who publicly and proudly proclaims his Catholic faith, but
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at the same time is delusional enough to make the sign of the cross during a pro-abortion
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He has been so vocal in his support for the murder of innocent babies that I'm sure to
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many people, it appears that you can be both Catholic and pro-choice.
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From the man behind the COVID lockdowns to the people pushing dangerous gender ideologies
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onto the youth of America, they all have a glaring thing in common.
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This is an important reminder that being Catholic alone doesn't cut it.
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But if we are going to be men and women for this time in history, we need to stop pretending
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that the Church of Nice is a winning proposition.
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Obviously, I'm not Catholic, but I appreciate how he is describing the discrepancy between what
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some Catholics do, especially in the highest levels of government and what the Catholic
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Obviously, as a Protestant, there are many people on my side who call themselves Christians,
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Now, what's interesting is that even though the Catholic Church itself has been solid on
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this, according to Pew Research, only 42% of Catholics believe that abortion should be
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illegal in most or all cases versus 55% of Protestants.
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Now, I believe both of those numbers are too low, but I appreciate that Butker, as a Catholic
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himself, is saying, oh, there's a problem that is going on here.
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He said, as men, we set the tone of the culture when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction,
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This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence that we see all
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You, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you.
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How many of you are sitting here about to cross this stage and thinking about all the promotions
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But he talks about the importance and the beauty of motherhood.
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On Monday, May 13th, the petition was created on change.org, demanding that the Kansas City
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Chiefs dismiss Hurricane Bucker for discriminatory remarks.
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As of earlier, apparently it was homophobic, anti-trans, anti-abortion, and racist.
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Um, he says, or the, um, the petition goes on to say that we demand accountability from
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our sports figures who should be role models, promoting respect for all people.
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He disrespected your ideology, but I loved it because what he said was true.
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Besides the one prominent petition on change.org calling for the Chiefs to dismiss Bucker,
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there are nine petitions that have been created to support him.
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I also saw some people from example, or from, for example, like Barstool Sports calling out
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some of the other athletes who are supporting him and are cheering him on.
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That's because they are all silly, silly people who have not thought through anything of consequence
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Even if I like some of their like sports and funny commentary, like most people in this world
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And this is an example of someone who has chosen not to do that.
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He did not have to stand up here and say all of this.
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He knew that there would be people calling for the end of his career, threatening him.
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And yet he has continued to make these unpopular remarks in the name of truth and good for him.
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We need more men, more dads willing to stand up and do the same thing.
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I'm also thankful to have a dad myself who embodied and who symbolizes, I think, a lot
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of just what is needed in this world today when it comes to strong dads and strong leaders
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I am married also to Chief Related Bro who embodies all of this so well, and I'm so thankful for
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I know all of you are very thankful for the strong men in your life who, like Harrison
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Bucker, are willing to stand up in a variety of different ways in all their different spheres
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Today, we do have my dad on, and he is here to explain and break down so much of what is
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I actually don't know which one either, but 1,004, Vince says.
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I'm not surprised that you had 1,000 things to talk about.
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Actually, in the 1,000th episode, one of the voicemails we played was from our related
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bro who was like, as a girl dad, I love seeing y'all's relationship.
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Let's first talk about the polling that we've seen.
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According to the New York Times, they were probably very sad to report this.
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Nearly 70% of voters say that the country's political and economic systems need major changes
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Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden are essentially tied among 18 to 29-year-olds and Hispanic voters,
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even though each group gave Mr. Biden more than 60% of their vote in 2020.
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Now, Trump does have some vulnerabilities, even though in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan,
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Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, he is winning.
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For example, these vulnerabilities are 64% of voters in battleground states said that abortion
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should be always or mostly legal, including 44% of Mr. Trump's own supporters.
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13% of the voters who say they voted for Mr. Biden last time do not plan to do so, or they
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Again, it's because of the war in Israel and Palestine.
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Well, again, it's kind of like I've said before.
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I see these, and it is, this is not a, it's not a national election.
00:33:19.180
I have to remind people that it's a 50-state election.
00:33:21.820
But it does still concern me that even when you go through all of the things that Biden
00:33:27.840
is upside down on, that when you, when you put everything together and look at a national
00:33:33.080
poll, that it's very, very close in a, in a race that should not be close.
00:33:46.300
Do you think just because of the state of the economy?
00:33:48.200
Yeah, just, just because of, if you, if you look at individual policies like immigration,
00:33:53.220
the economy, those types of things, he is, Trump is way ahead of him on those issues.
00:34:01.040
And so if, and if those issues are important to Americans, which I think they are, all
00:34:07.380
But the reason he's not is because in spite of those issues, there are people that would
00:34:12.920
agree with him on the issues, but don't like him personally for whatever reason, whether
00:34:18.580
it's their, their own personal knowledge or just what they've heard through the media,
00:34:22.260
that they're still willing to hold their nose essentially and vote for Biden, which is very,
00:34:29.100
Now, I do think it's encouraging though, that states that Trump lost in 2020, that he's significantly
00:34:37.800
ahead in Nevada, Georgia, Arizona, that's a big deal.
00:34:42.920
If he wins those three states, he will be the president of the United States.
00:34:46.940
There's no question about that because not because those three states will make all the
00:34:51.220
difference, but because if he's winning those three states there, it's going to, it's going
00:34:57.720
Right now he may not win Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, but if he wins Georgia, Nevada and
00:35:07.300
That's the only swing state where Biden is ahead right now.
00:35:10.200
Which doesn't really make any sense because those are really pretty conservative people.
00:35:17.720
Those are pretty red, white, and blue Americans.
00:35:19.980
Your brother and I went to the Ryder Cup there a couple of years ago and it was incredible.
00:35:25.620
You know, it was just, so it's like, it's a weird scenario.
00:35:28.640
Now the abortion thing, I do want to touch on that just a second, because I do believe that
00:35:33.260
it's a true statement that most people in America would say that abortion up to some
00:35:45.240
You disagree with that, but I do believe, cause that's what, that's just the way it makes
00:35:50.100
people feel comfortable that they're kind of balancing it out a little bit right now.
00:35:53.620
When you narrowed it down and you got all the facts in front of them as to what time that
00:35:58.280
should be, I don't, I don't think there's any agreement on that whatsoever.
00:36:03.420
And so that question that was in that poll you just talked about, it should be nearly
00:36:09.620
So what one person is doing saying, well, yeah, if it's at, if it's at six weeks, then
00:36:14.760
Well, the other person's that answered the question is, well, if it's at 35 weeks, I'm
00:36:23.180
When it says most people believe that abortion should be legal in some or all cases, like
00:36:29.560
you said, some might be six weeks, it could be 40 weeks.
00:36:34.180
And so, yeah, you've got, I really think that when you look at it, when you go down to it,
00:36:39.660
most people are most comfortable only in the first trimester.
00:36:43.820
Now I still disagree with that, but I think that's actually where most people are.
00:36:47.180
And I think that if given the facts, most people would move to six weeks being the limitation.
00:36:54.680
I really do believe the heartbeat does make a difference to people.
00:36:57.460
And before that, they might be easier to justify it.
00:37:05.540
But I do think the Democrats will try to make hay on that.
00:37:08.480
And now Trump and Carrie Lake and some other Republicans, that's why they're kind of coming
00:37:12.220
out and equivocating and saying, okay, look, we got to be moderate on this.
00:37:16.520
16 weeks, he's even saying for a federal ban, which is way, way, way too late for me.
00:37:23.480
But that's the stance that he's trying to take right now, because he understands this
00:37:28.720
is a hot button issue that, according to the New York Times, even 44 percent of people who
00:37:33.440
vote for Trump, they don't want it to be completely banned.
00:37:41.100
I would rather maybe this is too idealistic for me.
00:37:44.160
I would rather us simply do a better job as Republicans making our case.
00:37:53.980
They're not afraid to say, no, I think it should all be legal.
00:37:57.540
And yet on the other side, there's no Republican almost who's willing to say, well, I think it
00:38:03.220
And so I just wish that we would do a better job of saying, no, you're the extremist for
00:38:12.580
I think what they have to turn the discussion away from women's rights to genocide.
00:38:21.820
And probably not using that term, but you understand what I mean.
00:38:26.000
I mean, as you know, we care more about puppies than we do about unborn babies.
00:38:30.360
And I also believe in that poll that some people would say that I'm against all abortion
00:38:36.920
And so they're included in the group that says, I still believe in some of it.
00:38:43.560
And your listeners should not be disheartened if they have the same positions that you and
00:38:50.680
Don't think that you're way out of the mainstream, because I don't really think that you're that
00:38:56.740
I think it's getting closer to us than it is to them.
00:38:58.800
And even if you are outside of the mainstream or you're swimming upstream, that is an OK
00:39:04.760
place to be, because most people haven't really thought through most of these issues fully.
00:39:10.660
And those of us who really have and have really considered it from a biblical perspective, we
00:39:16.120
will always be different than most of the world.
00:39:19.660
The fact of the matter is, though, is that Trump is the most pro-life candidate that we've
00:39:27.240
His words aren't as good, but his actions of who he's nominated and the policies that
00:39:34.920
As soon as he's elected, I promise you, in my opinion, that he'll take all the stuff that
00:39:44.560
And I think most people have probably seen Biden is the most extreme, because he believes
00:39:49.900
in through all nine months subsidized by the taxpayer for any reason without any apology.
00:39:54.340
And then RFK is kind of a middle ground on that, because at one point he did say, I think
00:40:01.940
Oh, I believe that it should be restricted after the first three months, which is probably
00:40:07.540
But his campaign manager after that said, oh, no, no, no.
00:40:12.540
So now he's going on a media tour saying, yeah, I actually think that it should be legal
00:40:20.480
There's no woman who gets pregnant, carries that baby for eight months, and then decides
00:40:33.380
They're in that kind of case, and nobody in their right mind would do that.
00:40:40.040
In those kind of cases, there's some kind of very, very rare cases where that happens.
00:40:45.380
There's always some kind of extenuating circumstances, and I don't feel prepared to turn that over
00:40:55.400
So that's his case for making even late-term abortion legal, even though it happens at least
00:41:04.900
Before I'll get your comments, let's go ahead and play Sot 5, where he's saying this again.
00:41:10.140
So in other words, keeping it as is, with Roe v. Wade having been overturned and leaving
00:41:15.300
it up to the states to determine if and when a woman can have an abortion?
00:41:23.960
You would say completely, it's up to the woman.
00:41:40.140
No matter what, all nine months aborting a 40, I was pregnant for 42 weeks.
00:41:47.660
At that point, he thinks abortion should be legal.
00:41:52.160
That is, I know he doesn't believe that personally.
00:41:54.900
If you just look at the history of his family, first of all, he's got like seven or eight brothers
00:41:59.960
His mother, one of the strongest Catholics in that family, Rose.
00:42:03.100
And so I just believe he's pandering, you know, because he doesn't want the women against
00:42:11.440
I mean, it's just nothing but how anybody couldn't see that as murder is just, is just
00:42:17.020
And so, yeah, he's right in line with Biden on that issue.
00:42:19.620
Now, I think he's tried to walk it back a little bit, but does it matter now?
00:42:24.680
That's going to be, that's just a big mistake on his part.
00:42:28.020
He was, he got afraid as a politician, as opposed to being a, a brave policymaker.
00:42:39.360
Because I thought at one point that he was trying to appeal more to the conservative moms
00:42:44.140
who just really don't like the vaccine, the COVID vaccine and the COVID policy.
00:42:50.160
He seemed like the kind of guy who didn't care what the polls said.
00:42:53.680
He was just going to do what he believed, do what's right.
00:42:56.720
But with his VP pick, with his comments about abortion, I'm wondering who he is going for.
00:43:06.200
Well, I think he believes that the true anti-vaxxers, that that's their number one issue and they
00:43:14.420
Cause they're probably more, they're probably more libertarian than they are conservative.
00:43:20.460
And then he's got to fill up the rest, which is actually for those of us that want the,
00:43:28.480
Cause he's going to fill up the rest with progressives.
00:43:32.400
And that's why Biden and them don't want him involved in anything.
00:43:37.260
So I think that's probably where he's getting out.
00:43:41.180
And he's trying to make a big statement about, you know, there are, there are a large group
00:43:47.380
of people kind of like Ross Perot did that don't agree with either side on some important
00:43:53.120
And he would have chose, he would have preferred not getting into the abortion issue, but you're
00:44:00.300
Which is one reason I think he won't come on this show.
00:44:03.240
Um, he said, but then I learned I, he, so as you said, he tried to walk it back a little
00:44:07.160
bit, but then I learned, I was wrong that there are actually a huge amount of people
00:44:11.180
out comparatively of elective abortions in the third trimester, which is just an absolute
00:44:17.980
I'm sure he already knew that, but in my belief at that time is that at that time you have
00:44:23.280
a wholly formed viable child and the state has some interest in protecting that baby.
00:44:28.540
Well, he is trying hard to like thread the needle, but yeah, you've already said it.
00:44:49.800
Let's get into some of these other issues before we talk about the debate that's coming
00:44:53.760
So we've got abortion where each candidate is on that.
00:44:59.620
This is a big issue for both sides of the aisle.
00:45:02.100
Well, this is really, if it wasn't so, if it wasn't so important and serious, it'd be
00:45:06.280
funny watching the Biden administration, you know, because what, you know, they, they, uh,
00:45:12.740
There's been what I just, I just wrote this down 3.2 million crossed illegally that they
00:45:29.700
No question about, and that's just through the ones that they could, you know, that got,
00:45:33.820
that went through the border patrol as opposed, supposedly.
00:45:37.080
And so what they're trying to do now is that, well, we're going to do an executive order.
00:45:43.080
So that we can, you know, send people back quicker that obviously don't qualify for asylum.
00:45:50.600
Well, they don't need an executive order to do that.
00:45:52.980
They could, they could do all of that and they, they could, they could do the remain in
00:45:56.720
Mexico and then they come through as their asylum, you know, date comes up.
00:46:01.160
That's how, that's how they overturned or they reversed the remain in Mexico policy.
00:46:07.520
And then they're, they said, well, we had this bipartisan bill, which is how, which
00:46:11.900
is how Republicans get suckered in sometimes because you got one or two Republicans that
00:46:16.560
voted for it and probably had really, really good intentions.
00:46:20.000
I believe James Langford is a good person, uh, and trying to come to a good answer to something.
00:46:26.300
But, and now all they're doing is using that as a political stunt against the Republicans
00:46:33.720
because that bill itself even said, we're going to let 5,000, we're not going to do anything
00:46:41.540
And that's, again, those are the 5,000 that come through that they see.
00:46:48.400
So I want people to understand that the Biden administration doesn't want to do anything
00:46:53.980
In fact, if they really did, HR2 passed the house and that is a much more restrictive,
00:46:59.920
uh, you know, close the border first and then revamp our laws on how we allow people to come
00:47:08.260
HR2 is sitting on Senator Schumer's bill on his desk and he will not bring it up.
00:47:14.920
So don't say that the Republicans aren't interested in doing and doing something about it.
00:47:19.600
But I still think when you go, when I talk to people that are running for office, no matter
00:47:23.100
where they are in the country alley, the number one issue is immigration.
00:47:26.480
It doesn't matter what state they're in, which is really kind of interesting.
00:47:31.660
So that's the Republican issue, that and the economy that they have to run on.
00:47:38.800
Because like, I, I find myself getting more, I don't know, intense on immigration than I
00:47:47.560
was a few years ago when Trump started talking about the wall.
00:47:51.320
I was kind of one of those people that was like, eh, you know, is that the right approach?
00:47:56.000
I wish I could see how some of his rhetoric is a little harsh.
00:48:06.480
One crime committed by an illegal alien is one crime too many.
00:48:10.200
All crimes committed by illegal immigrants are preventable crimes, unlike crimes committed
00:48:19.980
But the Biden administration is literally coming to the border, removing even the least
00:48:25.260
restrictive boundaries that we have in place, and then saying, well, we're trying to do
00:48:34.380
When their efforts to do something are counterproductive, they're actually just allowing more people
00:48:40.300
So their goal is, and they've seen it in a few states and cities, their goal is, is that
00:48:45.260
they know that if they can persist long enough, that eventually there could be an acquiescence
00:48:51.720
on either giving them amnesty or just allowing them to vote since they live here.
00:48:57.380
And some cities, you know, are already doing that.
00:49:02.940
So, you know, it's kind of like, uh, when you're, when you're, uh, digging a hole and
00:49:07.980
you're afraid it's getting to eat, the first thing to do is stop digging.
00:49:10.440
So the first thing to do is secure the border, but at the same time, and you can do two things
00:49:14.620
at once, come up with a, a work visa program that allows people, because we need some of
00:49:20.400
these people to come work on a temporary basis.
00:49:23.060
Like we used to do this all the time, six months, right?
00:49:25.280
They'd come and work in the, in the, in the, uh, produce out in California, or they would
00:49:30.380
come like, uh, the person that does a lot of our landscape at our house, the company
00:49:38.460
They only come up here for six months and then they go home to Mexico and work in six months.
00:49:43.440
That's the, they can make the most money doing that.
00:49:47.260
And then also have a path to be here legally from a long-term standpoint that it's not so
00:49:58.200
If you meet the qualifications that we, that we put in place.
00:50:03.860
But the first thing is always secure the border.
00:50:08.600
So that's the, that's the first thing, but I want people to understand that don't, whatever
00:50:13.620
the Biden administration says, just remember 3.2 million in 2023.
00:50:20.540
Let's move on to the economy because this is another one that both sides of the aisle, they
00:50:27.200
Well, I wish you had the, uh, the clip where Biden says that when he took over, he was
00:50:31.640
at 9% inflation that Trump left him with 9% annualized inflation when even his own white
00:50:37.080
house has said, no, that wasn't, he misspoke on that one or people misunderstood.
00:50:46.780
Now it was going to go up because people coming out of COVID.
00:50:50.460
However, just a couple of things that people I'm sure are feeling already.
00:50:58.320
Is that like, for example, a dozen eggs in 2020 dollar 51 right now, average $3.
00:51:12.460
That's up 36% for the cost of bread, cost of gasoline up 50%.
00:51:18.720
Mortgage, a home mortgage, usually the largest purchase, uh, anybody in America makes the
00:51:33.500
So do an inflation or economics for dummies, what causes inflation?
00:51:41.280
Cause that's what I hear from the Democrat side.
00:51:42.900
Well, it has nothing to do with Biden and his policies.
00:51:46.640
When you dump more money into a society, which remember we, and Trump started some of this,
00:51:51.220
there's no question about that, but then he quit it and Biden kept putting more money
00:51:57.860
And so either, either through, uh, increased tax deductions for the, for people that were,
00:52:04.220
you know, middle-class and lower or, and actually everybody or actual checks that came out.
00:52:09.920
Or, uh, student loan forgiveness, all of those types of things.
00:52:13.580
And where he's spending money, when you put more money into an economy, people have more
00:52:18.620
So if I'm selling you something, if I'm selling, you know, widgets, then I can raise the price
00:52:29.780
And that's, that's, it's exactly what happened.
00:52:32.080
Cause the people that, the people that are making eggs today, okay.
00:52:35.780
That are, that sell eggs and whatever, they are, their costs have not gone up $3, you know,
00:52:42.320
double their costs haven't doubled, but because, because there's more demand because people
00:52:47.780
have the more money instead of buying, you know, a dozen eggs every two weeks, they can
00:52:55.540
It's amazing to me that there is so much animosity towards Trump as a person that that would,
00:53:02.580
that that animosity would trump people's concerns about something like the economy and immigration.
00:53:11.540
And it's so immediate, which tells me, and you know, there's no reason in looking backwards.
00:53:16.440
It is what it is, but we picked the wrong person in the primary.
00:53:20.800
Cause I do think if you would have chosen a less polarizing person who aligned with Trump
00:53:25.100
on most of these issues, they would be far and away.
00:53:31.200
I know other people that are listening won't agree with us on that one.
00:53:35.700
Now I do, I do think we have to credit Trump as a conservative movement for being willing
00:53:40.300
to stand up and say things that a lot of people in the past 50 years haven't been willing
00:53:50.740
But I do give him credit for doing it for whatever reason.
00:53:53.480
Maybe it may be all misogynistic for all I know, but he did it.
00:54:00.620
He started a new conversation about immigration that wasn't being had.
00:54:13.000
Well, you know, they've all the prosecutions going to probably wrap up their case in the next
00:54:17.960
They had the big Stormy Daniels interview and Michael Cohen and, you know, not as a
00:54:26.160
And that's probably the strongest point that the other people made.
00:54:29.100
But the problem is, here's the problem the prosecution has, is that the facts are pretty
00:54:39.040
But there's no evidence, nothing out there other than Cohen, who is a convicted felon,
00:54:45.660
by the way, says that that was about the political race.
00:54:52.320
There's reasonable doubt, at least, that he did that to protect his family or his business
00:55:01.980
The only way it becomes illegal, if there's a fact that he did that only for the political
00:55:06.860
race, and that's a federal election law violation, which, by the way, he's not even
00:55:10.860
being charged of, which is crazy on top of that.
00:55:14.820
I still think the chance of him being convicted in that is greater than 50-50 because of where
00:55:18.900
it is and who the judge is and who the jury is.
00:55:21.480
But on the appeals, I think it'll be thrown out.
00:55:24.020
The good news is, is on the documents case that Jack Smith, I think, is the prosecutor,
00:55:30.740
about having the documents, you know, he and Biden both had them.
00:55:33.560
They decided not to even charge Biden because he was a dawdling old man.
00:55:37.280
Remember the investigator, the inspector's report?
00:55:39.520
Uh, that's not, I don't think that's going to come up before the election.
00:55:44.360
And the one in Georgia has turned out to be a disaster for the prosecution, and they've
00:55:50.100
So, uh, I think the one in New York is the main one that, uh, you know, that the media
00:55:56.720
Do you think that's going to have any effect on how people vote?
00:55:59.940
I think a hundred percent of the people know how they're going to vote already on that issue.
00:56:19.940
You want to get to some questions that people sent?
00:56:22.040
There's a ton, and I'm sorry, we're not going to be able to, um, get through all of them.
00:56:26.220
And some of them, and some of them, we already, we already answered.
00:56:34.720
Yeah, we can definitely keep some of these and answer some of them later.
00:56:41.720
Try to, try to answer concisely, because it's a big question.
00:56:49.640
We fund them because we don't want to fund, we don't want to fight.
00:56:52.860
We don't want to have war on our shores, so therefore we help hold on to democracy across
00:57:04.080
If we can have democracy in other places and those strongholds, we'd rather have that than
00:57:11.260
Do you think that there's a limit to how much we should be involved and how much we should
00:57:17.900
fund other countries, especially when there seems to be things like our border that don't
00:57:27.600
Like when we passed the last package to send more funding to Ukraine, you had all these people,
00:57:32.540
uh, in Congress, on the floor, waving the Ukrainian flags.
00:57:37.100
Why isn't there that vigor for protecting our own border?
00:57:40.100
Well, because the Ukrainian thing has very little effect on their next election.
00:57:48.700
But I do think the limit alley is all based on what that country itself is willing to put
00:57:57.940
It's kind of what Trump has said about NATO that time.
00:58:00.380
And I mean, he, he's changed all that about, look, if you're going to be in NATO, you got
00:58:04.000
to put your own money up because we were funding almost the whole thing.
00:58:06.640
So I think we should look at, okay, how committed is Ukraine?
00:58:13.040
And how important is, it's not so much helping them as it is stopping Russia.
00:58:17.440
And Israel, I think that we have an obligation.
00:58:21.300
And I think for a lot of people, that's a moral obligation.
00:58:23.980
Even our politicians would, I'd say a lot of them believe it's a moral obligation to protect
00:58:29.320
them and they are the only democracy in the Middle East, real democracy.
00:58:37.620
One person asked this and we forgot to get to it.
00:58:40.320
What you think about the upcoming debate, CNN will host it on June 27th.
00:58:51.340
Trump's campaign is also pushing for two more debates in July and August.
00:58:56.200
Um, here is our commander in chief, Biden, challenging Trump.
00:59:08.760
Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again.
00:59:24.920
He, he didn't, Donald Trump didn't lose two debates to him.
00:59:28.060
And I do think in the first debate, Donald, Donald Trump overstepped when he shouldn't
00:59:36.780
Also, he hasn't tried to avoid debating Donald Trump.
00:59:40.280
So to say that he hadn't shown up, I'm not sure what he's talking about.
00:59:48.420
But I don't, you know, I'll still be surprised if Biden shows up.
00:59:53.640
Now, who knows how many uppers they're going to have to put on?
00:59:55.560
They put a bunch of restrictions on this whole thing, which could blow it up, right?
01:00:04.200
So that's why they put all these restrictions, right?
01:00:13.380
The limited news outlets, candidate mics must mute after time expires, which might help Trump,
01:00:21.520
It might help Trump because that first debate, I knew it was over because even though I don't
01:00:26.600
care about hurting Biden's feelings, I know how it was perceived.
01:00:29.860
It was perceived like Trump was a bully and that Joe Biden, who is not this compassionate
01:00:39.220
I've just learned to laugh at this kind of stuff.
01:00:41.900
Crooked Joe Biden is, because remember it was Crooked Hillary, now it's Crooked Joe Biden,
01:00:46.440
which is fair, is the worst debater I've ever faced.
01:00:51.220
Crooked is also, just Crooked, is also the worst president in the history of the United
01:00:58.640
It's time for a debate so that he can explain to the American people his highly destructive
01:01:02.500
open border policy, new and ridiculous EV mandates, that's the electric vehicle mandate,
01:01:07.680
the allowance of crushing inflation, high taxes, and his really weak foreign policy, which is
01:01:12.900
allowing the world to, quote unquote, catch on fire.
01:01:18.840
At the two proposed times in June and September, I would strongly recommend more than two debates
01:01:23.300
and for excitement purposes, a very large venue.
01:01:36.760
I think you should have it in Yankee Stadium, in one of those boxing ring things, right?
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It will probably be the most watched debate in history.
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Now, if I'm Trump's people, I don't take everything they put in there as those criteria.
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I'm going to get whatever it is that's important to him to get back on that.
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Let's do one political one and one nonpolitical one.
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How do you hold faith, this person asks, in our country when it feels like all the candidates
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Well, you have to have faith that in Daniel 2, 21 and 22, where it says that God sets
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up the kings when they're up and when they're down.
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And I remember when I was running for political office my first time, my friend Scott Turner
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and I, when we would meet for breakfast, that would be our verse that we would remind each
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other of, that we do the work, but at the end of the day, it's God.
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And so God has used many, many, many non-believers in him for his good and for the good of his people.
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And he's also had many people that supposedly believed in him that failed him.
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And we, it's our obligation to stay engaged though.
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We cannot lose so much hope that we refuse to engage.
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Remember in screw tape letters, he didn't really want them to commit a bunch of sins.
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What do you think are some different challenges that, this is another question, that parents
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Scary because I have kids and grandkids, obviously.
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And, but I do think that we face things that our parents didn't face.
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The answer to that is always making sure that you're grounded in your faith because the biblical
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Now, how they relate to, how you can relate that to what you're going through, like social
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media or whatever it is with your child, or then you have to be able to, you know, dig
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deep and there'll be, there'll be theologians that can, you know, like what you're doing
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here, Allie, a lot of days is helping people understand how that relates to today.
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And so what, what I do in my world and what like, like people in my generation that have
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kids and grandkids that are going through this, first of all, you know, the first thing
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we do is have to get on our knees because there's a limited amount that we can do temporally
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Uh, we have to make sure that, you know, we help our children raise their children up
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in the way that they should go by providing that, you know, assistance when we can and
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And, you know, whether it's for your girls or Justin's boys, the grandparents still have
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They have an, well, I say a big role, an important role, put it that way, an important role in
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And, uh, so I think you just, it's, it's all about making sure that you believe that
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the Bible is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
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Um, we'll do this last question and I'll ask it because I got two of basically the same
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questions from two different people back to back.
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Both of these women said that they grew up with an absent dad, but they want their life,
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how they parent to be different, but they don't really have a good example.
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That's actually something that you talk about some in your book.
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It wasn't the exact same situation for you, but you have some empathy for that, for people
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So these are late, Timmy, these are ladies that grew up without a dad at home, right?
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And so they, they're really not totally sure how even their husband should be because they
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Well, I think what you have to do is assuming that their husbands are godly people, okay,
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that you have to believe that God will shape and mold that person, okay?
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Because you can't be your husband's father, right?
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But I also believe that it, that your kid's father, your kid's father, right?
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You, you have to realize that you're the mom, okay?
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Even though your mom was the mom and the dad, you're the mom, you're not the dad, okay?
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And so don't try to be the dad, you're, you just be the mom.
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And then you just, you just pray and allow God to work for the dad.
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But what you should expect is what the Bible says.
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You should expect your husband not to provoke your children.
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You should expect your husband to, to yes, discipline, okay?
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And y'all should talk about that and agree on that.
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To make sure that they are respecting their father and that they're utilizing as they grow
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older, some wisdom and experience that he might have, right?
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And something that she never, she never knew to experience.
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What I finally had to realize is that for me and for these ladies, the father in heaven
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has told us that he cares more about us than anybody here on earth could.
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So I had to start addressing him in my prayers when I would write them down as father.
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And that's a beautiful thing about God is that he does say that he is the father to
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But God does offer that redemption and I'm thankful for that.
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So thank you so much as always for your political insight.
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And I know you, you know, you didn't ask me to talk about this, but he does talk about
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his life and growing up, but then also his adulthood and his journey in the
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business world in his book, Life Lessons from the Little Red Wagon.
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And we can put a link in the description of this episode if you want to check that out.
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And just encouraging for all the related bros out there, like this could be a really good
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It's just encouraging to hear someone's story, the challenge, the obstacles.
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I think it's easy to see someone else's life and think, oh, everything went fine for