Ep 1012 ｜ Trump Verdict： Everything You Need to Know
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Summary
Last week, Trump was found guilty of 34 felony counts in a New York City trial. We are breaking down all of that today, why people are celebrating and why others are freaking out, and why it represents so much trouble within the church. This is an affront to God s definition of justice, and we will explain exactly why.
Transcript
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Last week, Trump was found guilty of 34 felony counts in a New York City trial.
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We are breaking down all of that today, why people are celebrating, why people are freaking
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out, and we are also going to look at the evangelical response, at least the response
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from one prominent evangelical, and why it represents so much trouble within the church.
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This is an affront to God's definition of justice, and we will explain exactly why on
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It's brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers.
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Okay, we have so much to get through today, so I'm not going to go through any announcements
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We are just going to get right into this Trump verdict, and I do apologize.
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I'm just a tad bit under the weather, and so if you can tell that I've got a little bit
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Last week, you guys asked me to please break down everything that happened with Trump.
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This is going to have to be a couple of episodes.
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We're going to get a legal expert in here to answer your questions.
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I'll be taking those on Instagram, but I'm going to do the best job that I possibly can
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to concisely, not my forte, but concisely break down exactly what happened, why, why this
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is ridiculous, why the disparate reactions between the right and the left, and then I still
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want to have time for reacting to some pride things in the second half of this episode,
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so I'm going to try to get through it as quickly as I possibly can, and if there are some details
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or some perspectives that I did not include in this summary, that's why I'm trying to get
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through everything that I can in a short amount of time, and as I said, we'll do definitely
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follow-up episodes on this to get into the minutiae.
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Jury finds Trump guilty of 34 felony counts in New York City trial.
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I asked my Instagram followers, have you been following this?
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The majority of you said that, yes, you've been following this closely.
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You knew exactly what happened last Thursday, but there were a good portion of you who said,
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And then there was a good portion of you who said, no, you haven't been following it at
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So I'm going to try to catch you up if this is repetitive to some of you who have been following.
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I apologize, but it's good for all of us to have just a refresher on all of the details
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On Thursday, May 30th, former President Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying
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business records in the first degree in New York v.
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After roughly 11 and a half hours over two days, the jury reached its verdict late Thursday
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The prosecution had accused Trump of marking payments made to his then personal attorney,
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You remember that while Trump was president, they referred to Michael Cohen or he referred
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And then he turned on Donald Trump and he was seen as some kind of brave expert by CNN
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and MSNBC, the very outlets who had derided him previously as being, you know, just a Trump
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Now they had this strange new respect for him because he had turned on Trump as legal expenses
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in an attempt to cover up $130,000 settlement payment.
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The attorney made to porn actress Stormy Daniels.
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She is still a part of this story to keep quiet about an alleged affair with the former president.
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Cohen paid Daniels personally, but was reimbursed by Trump, who marked this expense as legal expenses.
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Bragg's office argued, though, that this amounted to falsifying business records for the purpose
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of covering up the affair to influence the election results.
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The charges were filed by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg last year.
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Alvin Bragg ran, he campaigned in his district attorney race on finding a crime that Trump
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was guilty of, of going after Trump, of trying to make sure that Trump was put behind bars.
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Of course, that is a mockery of our legal system, of the idea of justice.
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You don't find a man that you want to accuse of being guilty of something.
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You are looking for actual criminality, not just for one man, but in general.
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You're not going after a man and then finding a crime.
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Of course, that is a marker of all socialist revolutions, of all kind of tyrannical regimes,
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The defense argued, his defense, Trump's defense, that monthly $35,000 payments made to Cohen in
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2017, totaling $420,000, were for legal services.
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However, Cohen claimed a portion of the funds were a reimbursement for his payment to Daniels.
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Trump was not allowed to leave the courthouse while the jury was deliberating.
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He said this on Truth Social, very unfair that I am not being allowed to campaign crooked Joe Biden
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Last Tuesday morning, Judge Juan Merchant delivered jury instructions, during which he told the panel
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that they did not need to agree on the exact unlawful means to render a unanimous guilty verdict
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People are saying that the instructions that he gave to the jury were absolutely ridiculous,
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almost unprecedented, and shows the bias of this particular judge.
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You need not be unanimous as to what the unlawful means were.
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You may consider violations of Federal Employees Compensation Act, that's federal election campaign
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law, falsification of other business records, violation of tax laws.
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Under New York law, falsification of business records is a crime when the records are altered
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To be charged as a felony, prosecutors must also show that the offender intended to commit
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another crime or aid or conceal another crime when falsifying records.
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In Trump's case, that other crime was a violation of New York election law that makes it illegal
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for any two or more persons to conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public
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But again, what exactly those unlawful means were in this case was up to the jury to decide.
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They just had to say, yeah, there were some unlawful means here.
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And four people could have thought it was one thing, the rest could have thought it was
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Prosecutors put forth three areas that they could consider.
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And then, as I already said, a violation of tax laws, falsification of other business
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Jurors did not need to agree on what the underlying thing was.
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They just had to conclude, again, that he did so with the intent to defraud.
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And that included an intent to commit another crime.
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A legal expert, Jonathan Turley, explained in a post on X, Merchant just delivered the
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He said that there is no need to agree on what occurred.
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They can disagree on what the crime was among the three choices.
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This means that they could split 4-4-4 and he will still treat them as unanimous.
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He says, this may be the broadest definition of a crime in history.
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Merchant is literally throwing the whole book at the jury.
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What authority does he have as a state court judge from a mediocre law school to opine on
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It's so intricate and complex that the FEC has exclusive jurisdiction and ordinarily preempts
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other courts from all federal election law related issues.
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Trump had something to say about the jury instructions.
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He said on Truth Social, the jury instructions given by highly
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conflicted judge Juan Merchant were unfair, misleading, inaccurate and unconstitutional.
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They were also very confusing, just what the judge wanted, because there was no crime.
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Trump's attorneys are expected to appeal the decision quickly, and we'll talk a little
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Prior to the verdict, Will Scharf, an attorney for Trump, told CNN's Jake Tapper that they
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were prepared to appeal if Trump would be convicted.
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Trump's sentencing hearing for the New York City criminal conviction is scheduled for July
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That's just days before the start of the 2024 Republican National Convention.
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So there's a lot of there are many responses and reactions from legal experts all across
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If it was justified, if it was not justified, you can imagine what a lot of people think
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about that, how this is going to affect Trump's ability to run for president.
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Okay, so this is from the Intelligencer, New York Magazine.
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This is a very left-leaning outlet, and the legal expert that wrote this article is arguing
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that prosecutors contorted the law in order to convict Trump, that this really was not
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a legitimate case, that because Alvin Bragg, this politically-minded, ideologically-driven
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prosecutor, just wanted to find a way to put Trump behind bars so he could say that he did
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it, because he personally doesn't like Trump, because he knew that this would make him popular,
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They had to contort the law in order to make Trump guilty.
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And of course, when something like this, when a trial like this goes on in very liberal Manhattan,
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the jury pool is going to be extremely left-wing.
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And what we know about a lot of left-wing people is that they have an irrational disdain for Donald
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Trump, that they are actually unable to be impartial.
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If you are not impartial, if you cannot just look at the facts of the case and decide whether
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someone is guilty based on the facts, then you cannot be a part of justice.
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If you are partial and that you have some kind of bias against or bias toward someone in a
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case, then you are unable to actually bring about a just outcome.
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Of course, we see this biblically, as we've talked about many times before.
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This is the difference between justice and social justice.
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Social justice is only concerned about the outcomes and what it perceives to be good retribution or
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trying to make sure that everyone gets even, whereas justice really cares about the procedure.
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And God says over and over again, particularly in the Old Testament and His law giving to Israel,
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we can see what He thinks about the principles of justice, that one of the qualifications of
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He says you cannot defer to the poor nor to the great, but in truth you judge your neighbor.
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Of course, the other definitions or the other descriptors of justice, it has to be direct.
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It also has to be truthful and the punishment has to be proportional to the crime.
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We see all of this when we look at the due process that God put in place in the Old Testament,
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the principles of which should still be applied today.
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And even those who are secular, even in this case, in this article that I'm about to read
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the summary of from a left wing perspective, even from that angle, people understand that
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people understand that this wasn't actually justice, although some irrational people are
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This is a CNN senior legal analyst, and she describes how the Trump conviction was a political
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Number one, the judge merchant donated money in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New
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York judges from making political donations to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation.
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And would people have been fine with the judge staying on the case if he had donated a couple
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bucks to reelect Donald Trump, MAGA forever campaign?
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People would have said that this person was biased, that he is disqualified.
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DA Alvin Bragg boasted on the campaign, as we said, on the campaign trail in an overwhelmingly
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It is a fact that I have sued Trump over 100 times.
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Again, this is, he found the man, he's looking for the crime.
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Number three, the DA's charges against Trump push the outer boundaries of the law and due
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The charges against Trump are obscure and nearly entirely unprecedented.
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In fact, no state prosecutor in New York or Wyoming or anywhere has ever charged federal
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election laws as a direct or predicate state crime against anyone for anything, none.
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Standing alone, falsification charges would have been mere misdemeanors under New York
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law, which posed two problems for the DA, Alvin Bragg, who is looking to charge Trump.
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First, nobody cares about a misdemeanor, and it would be laughable to bring the first ever
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charge against a former president for a trifling offense.
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Second, the statute of limitations on a misdemeanor two years likely expired.
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The DA inflated misdemeanors past the statute of limitations and electroshocked them back
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to life by alleging the falsification of business records was committed with intent to commit
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So this goes back to the summary at the beginning of what he had to say happened in order for
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Inexcusably, the DA refused to specify what those unlawful means actually were.
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The judge declined to force them to pony up until right before closing arguments, so
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much for the constitutional obligation to provide notice to the defendant of the accusations against
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In these key aspects, the charges against Trump aren't just unusual.
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They're bespoke, seemingly crafted individually for the former president and nobody else.
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The Manhattan DA's employees reportedly have called this the zombie case because of various
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legal infirmities, including its bizarre charging mechanism.
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But it's better characterized as the Frankenstein case, cobbled together with ill-fitting parts
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into an ugly, awkward, but more or less functioning contraption that just might ultimately turn
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Now, the author doesn't go so far as to say that an appeals court will overturn this conviction.
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It's hazy enough to potentially allow these mechanisms.
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But he is going to have a decent shot at reversal, apparently, even in New York.
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That's what we heard from Joe Biden after no man is above the law.
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We'll get into why that's so ridiculous more in a second.
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But the author says it's become cliche, but it's an important point.
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And it's worth pausing to reflect on the importance of this core principle.
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But it's also meaningless, pablum, if we unquestioningly tolerate or we celebrate deviations from ordinary
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Here, prosecutors got their man, for now at least, but they also contorted the law in
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an unprecedented manner in their quest to snare their prey.
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So, obviously, Trump himself and Trump supporters and people who aren't Trump supporters are calling
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They are rightly saying that this is so hypocritical that they have unleashed a new era of lawfare
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Should Trump somehow still manage to win the White House?
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Do they have the courage to turn this back around and to use the weapons that have been
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wielded by the left on their political enemies?
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And would that solve things for the better in the long run?
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Maybe that's just the generation that we're in now, though.
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Maybe we don't think about what's going to happen in 10 years.
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Maybe you just have to use the tools that are given to you and use them in the moment.
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I'm not saying that that is the that's the long term solution.
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I'm not saying that that's what's going to make a better country, but maybe it is what
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And maybe that is what it's going to take for everyone to put down their weapons and
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say, OK, enough with the lawfare, enough with trying to destroy the other side completely.
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According to Fox News, Judge Juan Merchant, who presided over the case, said Trump was
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required to be in court every day for the trial except Wednesdays when the court was not
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Of course, that meant that Trump couldn't really campaign.
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And if you've been feeling like, OK, wait, the election is happening in November.
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Why does it feel like the campaign hasn't really started?
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Why does it feel like neither side is campaigning?
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Well, Joe Biden is not really campaigning because he can't because he can't talk.
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And so they're going to employ as much as they can the same strategy that they did in the
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They're going to hide him away as much as possible because he's not coherent.
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And so they know that the more they can parade Trump as a convicted felon, the more they can
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They don't really have to present Joe Biden as this strong with it hero.
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They just have to make Trump look bad because they know that people aren't voting for Joe
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There are very few people who are voting for Joe Biden.
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But there's a large contingency of people that are voting against Donald Trump because
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they believe this nonsense that he is going to bring about tyranny, that he is the threat
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You have one side that is celebrating injustice, that is celebrating this kind of banana republic,
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tyrannical effort to try to exact vengeance against their political opponent.
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And not just vengeance, but try to inhibit him during a campaign season through lawfare.
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And they are accusing Donald Trump and his supporters of being the threat to democracy.
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Of course, everything they accuse someone of is actually just a projection.
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As we've said before, the definition of democracy, according to the left, is authoritarianism that
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they like authoritarianism, according to the left, is democracy that they do not like.
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It's so important whenever we hear anything coming from the left or really anyone, but
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particularly the left, because they control most of the media, academia, public education,
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most of the federal government, the intelligence agencies, the UN, the WHO, the W.E.F.
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It's so important for us to define our terms and to really think thoughtfully about everything
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The 2024 presumptive Republican nominee took advantage of the location of the trial in New
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York City and highlighted that it has been in decline since Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
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He also made local campaign stops in New York City, very smart, visiting a Harlem bodega,
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delivering pizza to first responders at a Midtown Manhattan fire department.
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He took photos with each firefighter, didn't talk to the press, good for him, holding rallies
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around New York, which drew historic crowds in traditionally blue districts.
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We didn't cover this at the time, but he held a rally in the Bronx, I think it was last
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And it looked like it was going to be horrible weather, that there's going to be flooding,
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that they were going to be unable to actually host this rally, that not a lot of people would
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You had AOC quote tweeting a post about, you know, the horrible rainfall that they were
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going to see that afternoon when the Trump rally was supposed to be held, saying like,
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It turns out that there were totally clear skies, that it was a beautiful evening.
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And Trump held this historic rally with thousands and thousands of people there in ardent support
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Over 25,000 people just ahead of Memorial Day, 25,000 people in the Bronx.
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They were expecting 3,500 people to show up at this rally.
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25,000 people showed up for this Trump rally in the Bronx.
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I mean, whether you like the guy or not, that is incredible.
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When he was not in court on Wednesdays, the former president crisscrossed the nation for
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rallies and campaign stops, who returned to New York City for court first thing Thursday
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The only non-Wednesday Trump spent outside the courtroom was May 17th, when he traveled home
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to Palm Beach, Florida to attend and celebrate the high school graduation of his youngest son,
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Immediately following the verdict, Trump made this statement, this was a disgrace.
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It was a rigged trial by a convicted judge who was corrupt.
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He said they wouldn't give us a venue change because his side did ask for a venue change.
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We were at 5% or 6% in this district, in this area.
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The real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people, and they know what happened
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Now, a lot of you have asked, how is he going to campaign if he is actually in jail?
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Now, it's not likely that he is going to go to jail, but it's not impossible.
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I'm not sure that he will have to campaign if he is in jail.
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I mean, right after this, he raised so much money just from this conviction, tens of millions
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of dollars, even prominent people coming out and saying, I support Donald Trump now.
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Wasn't going to support Donald Trump, but they're saying, I'm going to support Donald Trump now.
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And if that's what it takes to stop the weaponization of the justice system in this country against
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political enemies, which really is representative of tens of millions of people that support Donald
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Trump, or either at least just don't support Joe Biden, then that's what it's going to take.
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And so I'm not sure that he'll even have to campaign.
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I think Elon Musk posted it this morning that I thought was funny.
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It was like, I don't know what it's from, but it was a picture of what's supposed to be
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like a liberal and conservative looking at each other and being like, wait, and looking
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confused and it was like liberals wearing a t-shirt of Trump's mugshot, conservatives wearing
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They're both wearing it, but for very different reasons.
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The right is wearing the t-shirt with Trump's mugshot to be like, yeah, I don't, I don't
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I don't give a rat's patootie about what the Democrats say, what you're going to call
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me, and basically this is like, sorry, this is crass.
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I'm not saying that this would be a good thing to do, but I don't know how else to describe
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The right is wearing it like a middle finger to the left.
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The left is using it as a middle finger to the right and saying, yay, this is a celebration.
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Really, it's a celebration of the definition of injustice, whether or not you like Trump,
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because the question is not whether he ever did something wrong.
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The question is not whether it was good for him to be doing it with a porn star.
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The question is not whether it was right and moral of him to be giving hush money through
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Was the conclusion of this trial just and true?
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We used to be able to suss things like that out.
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And I'll talk about some historical examples of us being able to be objective as a nation,
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even when we really disagreed with something or disagreed with the person or disliked the
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On Sunday morning, former President Trump spoke with Fox and Friends in an exclusive interview,
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and they asked him, you know, what if you go to jail?
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The judge could decide to say, hey, house arrest or even jail.
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I saw one of my lawyers the other day on television saying, oh, no, you don't want to do that to
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And as I said, like that is probably going to help him in the campaign.
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Now, some people are saying that if this is a if this is appealed, he faces a lot of difficulty
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Some people are pointing out that the court that he would face, the appeals court that
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he would face is made up of entirely black women.
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The reason that they're saying that that makes it unlikely for him to win this case is because
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black women tend to be mostly very liberal, very left wing.
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Um, but however, this is not, uh, this is not the entire court.
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The picture was taken in February when those five happened to be ruling together over several
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And so people saying, okay, this is the appeals court.
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This is who Trump is going to be facing when they appeal or these liberal black women.
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These are just five people who happened to be on the court.
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Um, and so I don't think that that's really a good point.
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So if you see that picture, that point floating around, just realize that that's not exactly
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Now it may be true that he doesn't have a good chance of winning on appeal.
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And it might be true that all 21 judges or the majority of the 21 judges are so biased
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But the existence of these five judges who happen to be black women doesn't really support
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Um, according to Newsweek, there's no specific reason to think that these five would hear
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If he decides to appeal, given that there are 21 justices on the court in total on a statistical
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Again, could be concerned for other reasons, but I would not say that reason.
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Now, many people are pointing out, including Donald Trump, as we mentioned, uh, that this
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is an extremely hypocritical, uh, hypocritical ruling and hypocritical statements, uh, that
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no one is above the law given how Alvin Bragg treats criminals in New York City.
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So here's just some history of Alvin Bragg who claims that no man is above the law.
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We care about the rule of law here in New York City.
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The Heritage Foundation Bragg sent a memo to all staff in the district attorney's office
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when he took charge in January, 2022, outlining his new policies.
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The Heritage Foundation summarized the dangerous soft on crime charges or changes below elimination
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of pretrial detention slash cash bail for the following cases.
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The elimination of cash bail everywhere that has been implemented has led to destruction,
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has led to more rampant crime, criminals getting away with things that they should not be getting
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away with, violent criminals being let out into, uh, back into the community, committing
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more murder, more robberies, more rapes, more assaults.
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Every single place that the elimination of cash bail has been implemented, that has been
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Also, uh, so these are the cases in which, uh, the elimination of pretrial detention and
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Robbery, burglary, breaking and entering, carjacking, possession with intent to distribute any drug,
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witness tampering, domestic violence, domestic violence, arson, bribery, kidnapping, larceny,
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Criminal possession of a firearm, child endangerment, elder abuse, unlawful surveillance, and more.
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Prosecutors can only ask for prison where defendants are convicted of the following offenses.
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Homicide, a Class B felony where the victim suffered serious physical injury from a deadly
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weapon, domestic violence, felonies, sex offenses such as rape, and child sex abuse.
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Okay, so they can ask for prison there, but there can't be cash bail and pretrial detention
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Public corruption, rackets, uh, uh, major economic crimes.
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Bragg has announced crimes that his office will not prosecute, possessing marijuana, refusing
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to pay for the fare for public transportation, trespassing, failing to pay fines for unlicensed
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operation of motor vehicle, committing any traffic infraction, resisting arrest, obstructing
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governmental administration, engaging in prostitution, most other misdemeanor offenses.
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This makes it very difficult for police officers to catch, uh, criminals that are typically also,
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So he is actually not a fan of justice or a fan of enforcing the law at all.
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Um, in 2020, this was, uh, an article from 2021, but in 2020, according to NBC News, charges
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were dropped for hundreds of alleged looters in New York city, a review of NYPD data by
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the investigative team at WNBC, uh, shows that a large percentage of the cases, particularly
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in the Bronx were dismissed and that many convictions were for counts like trespassing
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He ended up dropping the charges for people who looted.
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They committed violence in many of these cases, but he decided of course, because they were
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rioting in the name of BLM that, uh, it didn't matter and that they didn't need to see any
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According to the Daily Mail, recent data shows that progressive Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg
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downgraded staggering 60% of fallacy cases to lesser charges last year amid fury over criminals
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being repeatedly released to roam the streets of New York.
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Joseph Borgen, 31, he was the victim of an anti-Jewish mob assault in Manhattan.
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Um, he spoke out slamming the plea deal that allowed one of his attackers off with just 18
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He faced the, his attacker faced seven years in jail after being filmed beating Borgen with
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crutches, calling him a dirty Jew and pepper spraying him in the 2021 attack.
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Um, Bragg was also slammed recently for allowing men accused of brutally beating two NYPD cops in
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Times Square in January to walk free, uh, the suspects in the shocking attack after being freed
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without bail are believed to have swapped immigration numbers with other people at their
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shelter and use the misappropriated identities to obtain vouchers and free bus tickets under fake
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By saying, oh, look, I have fewer people in prison.
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Because social justice is only concerned with the outcomes.
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It's not actually concerned with the procedure or the process, which according to the God who
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And it always leads to chaos disorder and disarray.
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Alvin Bragg, his campaign was in part funded by George Soros.
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George Soros is invested in the destruction of the United States because he does not believe,
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He doesn't believe in any kind of nationalistic pride.
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as an impediment to the new global order in which just a few oligarchs at the top are in
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charge, and they can reorder fundamentally society and service to his radical climate change
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It is a form of mass poverty and mass oppression, where the people at the very top get rich and
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And so the more he can bring the United States into disarray by ensuring that his people, that
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his left wing prosecutors and judges and politicians are placed in charge, the more that he can tear
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America apart at the seams by making our borders completely irrelevant and porous, the closer
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So yes, stopping Trump is actually a part of all of that.
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Indeed, great damage was done today to the public's faith in the American legal system.
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If a former president can be criminally convicted over such a trivial matter motivated by politics
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rather than justice, then anyone is at risk of a similar fate.
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And of course, we saw this in the disparate outcomes of different criminals in Washington,
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The same thing happened there with the looters, with the rioters, with violent criminals getting
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to walk free, while grandmothers who peacefully walked through the Capitol on January 6th,
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There were people in solitary confinement who committed lesser crimes than the criminals
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who were able to walk free, the violent criminals who have been able to walk free in Washington,
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We have seen peaceful pro-life advocates who were praying outside clinics, who were standing outside
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abortion clinics, see more prison time than some of the most violent offenders in places
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So Elon Musk, he has spoken against this in several different posts on X.
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Ben Shapiro points out the hypocrisy of all of this, the seriousness of all of this.
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Biden has activated his DOJ to target Trump in three separate jurisdictions while avoiding
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criminal culpability for himself and his son, Hunter Biden.
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Tried to use OSHA to force 80 million Americans to take the vaccine, defy the Supreme Court by
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That's something that he bragged about recently.
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Biden said, oh, I ignored the Supreme Court who said that forgiving student loan debt, appropriating
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our tax dollars to pay for the student loans that were voluntarily taken out by those students.
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He said that he ignored the Supreme Court, that he is going forth with that while simultaneously
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He used governmental agencies to threaten social media companies.
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He attacked states for attempting to enforce border law.
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Liz Wheeler has a really good list showing the hypocrisy of our justice system in the United
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States that is weaponized against Republicans, anyone who is not on the left.
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She said Hillary Clinton deleted 30,000 emails.
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Steven D'Antuano staged the Whitmer Fed napping on January 6th.
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Peter Sork and Lisa Page weaponized the FBI to, quote unquote, get Trump.
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Fauci lied about funding gain of function that created the COVID-19 virus.
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Cuomo, through his policies, killed 11,000 elderly people in New York.
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Pfizer and Moderna lied about the safety of the mRNA jabs.
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Planned Parenthood sold aborted baby parts, baby body parts.
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But Trump is convicted for paying his attorney.
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Nancy Pelosi has a tweet that is recirculating.
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She said the grand jury has acted upon the facts and the law.
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No one is above the law and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence.
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Hopefully the former president will peacefully respect the system which grants him that right.
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No, we do not have a right to a trial to prove innocence.
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That is not how our justice system is supposed to work.
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It is on the side of the prosecution to prove that the defense is guilty.
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It's not about guilt versus innocence, by the way.
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Not guilty and innocent are two different things.
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And it is on the side of the prosecution to try to prove that the defense is guilty.
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You don't go into a trial to try to prove your innocence.
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Again, we're talking about banana republic, third world country type stuff, where the government
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comes up with a crime to charge you with and you have to try to prove that you're not guilty
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of the crime when it's already been stacked against you.
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That is not a justice system by any real definition of justice.
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Biden was asked in a press conference about the verdict.
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President Trump refers to himself as a political prisoner and blames you directly.
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Mr. President, can you tell us, sir, Donald Trump refers to himself as a political prisoner
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and blames you as a political prisoner and blames you as a political prisoner and blames you
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as a political prisoner and blames you as a political prisoner and blames you as a political
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Do you think the conviction will have an impact on the campaign?
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Okay, so he just creepily, if you're just listening to this, he just creepily looks at the
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If I thought that he had any thoughts in his brain, I would say, wow, that is so wicked.
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That's so sinister that he's just looking at the camera and smiling creepily with this
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Like, I don't think that he even processed what was said.
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I think that that's just kind of what you do when you don't know what's going on.
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And I say this, I'm not saying this in a snarky way.
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Like, I have been around older people who have dementia in the early stages of dementia.
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Like, it is very typical of people whose minds are just fading.
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You just kind of look out with a blank stare and you smile and you hope that that's the
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And so I think it's equally dangerous and equally scary that he is so absent mentally
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But I actually don't think he is intentionally being sinister there.
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I think he just has no idea what in the world is going on around him.
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And I also want to get to the evangelical response about this.
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That Russell Moore, of course, you guys know who he is.
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He has been a part of the Southern Baptist Convention for a long time.
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He was the head of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Committee for a while.
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And he, of course, had something to say about this.
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So Russell Moore tweeted right after this conviction, right after the verdict, he said,
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the question is what it has always been, fit or unfit?
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Now, there is no mention of the justice or injustice of not just the verdict, but the process itself.
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And as someone who I know knows what the Bible has to say about justice,
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I know that he knows that God says that he hates partiality,
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When it comes to us, when it comes to law giving, I know he knows that.
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Likely, in many ways, better than I do, just when it comes to his sheer knowledge of biblical stories.
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And yet, he doesn't seem to care, as indicated to me in this tweet, about justice.
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About what the definition of justice really is.
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And this is someone who has very little to say about Joe Biden.
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Very little to say any more about policies that are not only harmful, directly harmful,
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Now, I'm not saying that he has never talked about abortion,
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or that he's never talked about the definition of marriage,
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but he's been very quiet about these things since Trump has become almost his sole focus
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Megan Basham, who is really like the expert when it comes to this segment of evangelicals,
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she looked through Russell Moore's Twitter history for all of time since Russell Moore has been on Twitter,
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Because I don't mind criticism of Donald Trump.
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Anyone who calls me some kind of Trump MAGA grifter,
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or some Trump sycophant, someone who won't criticize Donald Trump.
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I get absolutely reamed by Trump supporters sometimes.
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But sometimes when I do criticize Donald Trump,
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which is I never want to be unfair to Donald Trump,
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So you can't call me some kind of MAGA sycophant cultist.
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I've been much more even-handed when it comes to my criticism of Biden and Trump
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at least according to what we see here on Twitter.
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She went through every single time Russell Moore has tweeted about Joe Biden.
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I'm not saying I disagree with all of these things,
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but I'm saying the criticisms just don't exist,
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Christians, let's pray for President-elect Joe Biden.
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Vice President Biden is an exemplary father who has seen very hard times.
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I don't know that I would agree that Biden is an exemplary father.
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I mean, Ashley Biden, this is verified, by the way.
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Ashley Biden's diary was released where she notes that she had inappropriate showers with her father
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late enough in her life where she could remember them and realize that they were not okay.
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Is that the example of being an exemplary father that Biden has shown us, has offered to us?
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Some of you have asked me, like, why isn't that a bigger story?
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When I posted about that on Instagram, I had sent messages being like,
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It's not a big story because the media doesn't want it to be a big story.
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Because when we talk about decency, we just have to talk about all of Trump's impropriety,
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Like, I have heard conservative Christian evangelicals over the past few years say,
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yeah, you know, I don't agree with everything that Biden or Obama did, but they're great men.
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How can you support the unfettered slaughter of unborn children to be a great man?
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Russell Moore has said, really sorry to hear about the death of Bill Biden.
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My prayers go to Vice President Biden and his family.
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What Joe Biden and Paul Ryan can teach us about fatherhood.
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He would not be this boring at a hashtag Dem debate.
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He wrote an article for the Gospel Coalition, how we can pray for Joe Biden.
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He, again, expresses sympathy for Joe Biden in 2015.
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In 2015, he also said he disagrees with Biden on many things, but he's a kind man who loves
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He goes on and on about saying positive things about Joe Biden.
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Once again, I am not saying that it is wrong to pray for Joe Biden or express sympathy for
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As Christians, we have to be praying for all of our leaders, right or left.
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The point is that he has either neutral or positive things to say about Joe Biden and
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almost exclusively negative things, if not entirely exclusively negative things about
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That's the problem here, is that if you are not impartial, then you are not representing
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You're not representing biblical justice, and that's a problem.
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Now, I'm not saying that you have to have the same number of criticisms about both sides,
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Neither of them are perfectly in line with biblical Christianity.
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I wish that the right, that Republicans were more conservative.
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I wish they were more in line with biblical principles.
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I wish they were more courageous about those things, 1000%.
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But when you're talking about which side prefers baby murder more, which side is trying to
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chop up the bodies of children either through abortion or through gender, quote unquote, transition,
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when you're talking about which side supports wholeheartedly and ardently more passionately
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degeneracy, sexual degeneracy, the absolute obliteration of the family and the obliteration of national
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We don't have to pretend that both sides are equally bad or that both sides are equally
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Actually, we should look at every issue and we should care about every issue and try to
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approach every issue from a biblical perspective.
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I'm not saying that we should have even criticism of both sides, but we should be truthful, right?
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We should look at each person and look at each issue as they come and try to see all of it
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And that means, yes, we are going to have criticisms of all politicians and all sides.
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And he thinks that the right and Donald Trump is more of a threat than the absolute degenerate
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OK, so we're going to be seeing a lot of that, by the way, in the coming months when
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You're going to see a lot of evangelicals, as they have for the past several years, say,
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And yeah, a gender ideology wreaking havoc on our kids.
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I guess that's kind of bad, but they'll see that as a lost battle.
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But to see him as some kind of unique threat in all these different areas, it's just wrong.
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Now, on the other side of it, we've got people who are comparing Donald Trump's conviction to Jesus Christ, y'all.
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Okay, so, as always, I've got some criticism for people on the right who I think right now are being kind of equally delusional, saying that Donald Trump is like Jesus and that he was also, Jesus was also convicted of a crime that he was not guilty of.
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Trump is guilty of something here, at least morally.
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Like, we are talking about the fact that he paid a prostitute hush money.
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And we don't know if it was in service to winning the election, but we know that that was something that he did.
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So we know that there is immorality here, right?
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Doesn't mean that he should have been convicted.
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Doesn't mean that he should go to jail, not under these laws and charges.
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Why can't we just say that it is, it was wrong for him to be convicted in this way?
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If you're not sure that you can vote for a convicted criminal, remember, you worship one.
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And it's a picture of Donald Trump's mugshot and Jesus Christ hanging on the cross.
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I think that is so blasphemous and so sacrilegious.
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You don't have to compare Trump to Jesus Christ to say that this was wrong.
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It's just not, it's just not necessary, nor is it true.
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He just, he just gave the mob what it, what it wanted.
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Now, like you can compare, you can compare the injustice of like mob justice and the partiality
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that played out in Jesus's story to the kind of mob mentality and mob so-called justice that
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You can make that comparison, absolutely, without saying that Trump is similar to Jesus in any
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It's just not necessary to make that comparison.
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Like, is it possible that we just allow the left to be the crazy ones?
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Can we just allow them to embarrass themselves?
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Can we just allow them to be the unhinged ones?
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If you're in a debate with someone, when they start backtracking and when they start saying
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things that are just insane, when they start trying to like make weird connections that
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You never stop your opponent when they're making a mistake.
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That is, by the way, what Biden is trying to do with Trump during this campaign.
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It has helped Trump, as I said, in his campaign.
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People have donated hundreds of thousands of dollars, amounting to tens of millions of
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Unfortunately, we've got, for example, we've got many entities that are supposed to be neutral
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Encyclopedia Britannica said, yes, we've already updated his bio.
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Of course, it's tongue in cheek saying, yay, he's a convicted felon.
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The arbiters of our, the purveyors of our information, in some ways, the arbiters of truth are incredibly
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Tucker Carlson said this, import the third world, become the third world.
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He'll win the election and he's, if he's not killed first, but it does mark the end of the
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Anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family.
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Anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family.
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Because they support finding a man or getting the man and finding a crime that he is guilty
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of, no matter how they have to contort the law.
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And if they'll do that to President Trump, they'll do that for you, too.
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In any kind of dystopian novel, you see this kind of snitching.
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Even children on their parents, you see in 1984, if they weren't respecting the laws of
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Big Brother, respecting the order of Big Brother, even if they committed a thought crime, then
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their children, their family members, their friends would tell on them.
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The more applauded you are for trying to find crimes that someone is guilty of, that the
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regime says are crimes, the more likely this will be.
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And so fair people, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, will see that this is
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wrong, see that this is leading to a bad place.
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What will happen if Trump takes office, by the way, and decides he wants to exact vengeance?
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And I don't really want that because there are bigger fish to fry.
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Like there are more things that need to be done.
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I don't know if I'll say bigger fish to fry, but there are other things that need to be
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done that I would love a Republican president to focus on.
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And yet this is now the main thing, the weaponization of the justice system against tens of millions
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That's a really big thing that Trump is going to have to tackle.
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They are trying to create a fascist regime, which is really ugly, something that I certainly
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And I don't know if they realize that that's what they're creating or they're trying to
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And Democrats have no one but themselves to blame for that.
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So I had a whole other subject that I wanted to talk about today.
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And we still didn't get into everything that we could have when it comes to this.
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And so I hope even if you've been following this for a long time, that it offered some clarity
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That's something I wanted to talk about and some of the other pride things.
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We'll talk about all of that tomorrow and my response to a few things there.
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But I just had to make sure that we covered all of this.
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I did a debate on the Ellen Fisher podcast about a gender transition, so-called, and I debated
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You guys have really enjoyed that over the past few days.
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We can link it in the description of this episode.
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If you need talking points, if you need strategies, if you need ways to talk about this subject,
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this was a very peaceful and productive debate.
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I think that you'll hopefully learn a lot from it, and that'll be helpful for you as
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you engage on this very sensitive and controversial topic.