Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1012 ｜ Trump Verdict： Everything You Need to Know

00:00:01.000 Last week, Trump was found guilty of 34 felony counts in a New York City trial.

00:00:07.200 We are breaking down all of that today, why people are celebrating, why people are freaking

00:00:12.460 out, and we are also going to look at the evangelical response, at least the response

00:00:18.600 from one prominent evangelical, and why it represents so much trouble within the church.

00:00:26.080 This is an affront to God's definition of justice, and we will explain exactly why on

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00:00:48.360 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:49.960 Happy Monday.

00:00:51.140 Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend.

00:00:53.240 Okay, we have so much to get through today, so I'm not going to go through any announcements

00:00:59.300 or any preamble.

00:01:00.380 We are just going to get right into this Trump verdict, and I do apologize.

00:01:05.560 I'm just a tad bit under the weather, and so if you can tell that I've got a little bit

00:01:10.860 of a cold, that is why.

00:01:12.540 It is because I do.

00:01:14.580 All right.

00:01:15.380 Last week, you guys asked me to please break down everything that happened with Trump.

00:01:20.700 I'm going to do my best.

00:01:21.700 This is going to have to be a couple of episodes.

00:01:24.780 We're going to get a legal expert in here to answer your questions.

00:01:28.260 I'll be taking those on Instagram, but I'm going to do the best job that I possibly can

00:01:32.500 to concisely, not my forte, but concisely break down exactly what happened, why, why this

00:01:40.400 is ridiculous, why the disparate reactions between the right and the left, and then I still

00:01:45.020 want to have time for reacting to some pride things in the second half of this episode,

00:01:52.900 so I'm going to try to get through it as quickly as I possibly can, and if there are some details

00:01:58.320 or some perspectives that I did not include in this summary, that's why I'm trying to get

00:02:03.020 through everything that I can in a short amount of time, and as I said, we'll do definitely

00:02:08.140 follow-up episodes on this to get into the minutiae.

00:02:12.900 All right.

00:02:13.500 So here's the headline.

00:02:14.520 This is from Blaze Media.

00:02:16.400 Jury finds Trump guilty of 34 felony counts in New York City trial.

00:02:22.000 Now, most of you have been following this.

00:02:24.140 I asked my Instagram followers, have you been following this?

00:02:27.660 Do you know everything that's going on?

00:02:29.480 The majority of you said that, yes, you've been following this closely.

00:02:32.720 You knew exactly what happened last Thursday, but there were a good portion of you who said,

00:02:37.700 you know, you've been vaguely following it.

00:02:39.960 You're not really sure what happened.

00:02:41.740 You kind of know.

00:02:42.820 And then there was a good portion of you who said, no, you haven't been following it at

00:02:46.220 all.

00:02:46.680 You have no idea what is going on.

00:02:49.140 So I'm going to try to catch you up if this is repetitive to some of you who have been following.

00:02:54.180 I apologize, but it's good for all of us to have just a refresher on all of the details

00:02:58.740 that led up to this.

00:02:59.760 On Thursday, May 30th, former President Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying

00:03:06.240 business records in the first degree in New York v.

00:03:10.340 Trump.

00:03:10.880 After roughly 11 and a half hours over two days, the jury reached its verdict late Thursday

00:03:16.080 afternoon.

00:03:16.960 The prosecution had accused Trump of marking payments made to his then personal attorney,

00:03:22.500 Michael Cohen.

00:03:23.300 You remember that while Trump was president, they referred to Michael Cohen or he referred

00:03:27.460 to himself as Trump's fixer.

00:03:29.740 And then he turned on Donald Trump and he was seen as some kind of brave expert by CNN

00:03:36.300 and MSNBC, the very outlets who had derided him previously as being, you know, just a Trump

00:03:45.280 sycophant.

00:03:46.080 Now they had this strange new respect for him because he had turned on Trump as legal expenses

00:03:51.560 in an attempt to cover up $130,000 settlement payment.

00:03:57.280 The attorney made to porn actress Stormy Daniels.

00:04:01.240 Remember Stormy Daniels? 0.88

00:04:03.120 She is still a part of this story to keep quiet about an alleged affair with the former president.

00:04:09.680 Cohen paid Daniels personally, but was reimbursed by Trump, who marked this expense as legal expenses.

00:04:15.040 Bragg's office argued, though, that this amounted to falsifying business records for the purpose

00:04:20.540 of covering up the affair to influence the election results.

00:04:25.820 So that is what is being alleged here.

00:04:29.000 That is what Trump is being accused of.

00:04:31.600 If it sounds convoluted, it's because it is.

00:04:35.700 Trump pleaded not guilty to all counts.

00:04:38.300 The charges were filed by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg last year.

00:04:42.660 Alvin Bragg ran, he campaigned in his district attorney race on finding a crime that Trump

00:04:52.340 was guilty of, of going after Trump, of trying to make sure that Trump was put behind bars.

00:04:59.480 Of course, that is a mockery of our legal system, of the idea of justice.

00:05:05.060 You don't find a man that you want to accuse of being guilty of something.

00:05:10.020 You are looking for actual criminality, not just for one man, but in general.

00:05:15.560 And then you go after the crime.

00:05:17.160 You're not going after a man and then finding a crime.

00:05:21.220 Of course, that is a marker of all socialist revolutions, of all kind of tyrannical regimes,

00:05:28.120 especially in the 20th century.

00:05:30.780 The defense argued, his defense, Trump's defense, that monthly $35,000 payments made to Cohen in

00:05:38.040 2017, totaling $420,000, were for legal services.

00:05:42.740 However, Cohen claimed a portion of the funds were a reimbursement for his payment to Daniels.

00:05:48.960 Trump was not allowed to leave the courthouse while the jury was deliberating.

00:05:53.700 He said this on Truth Social, very unfair that I am not being allowed to campaign crooked Joe Biden

00:05:59.620 witch hunt, third world country.

00:06:03.220 Last Tuesday morning, Judge Juan Merchant delivered jury instructions, during which he told the panel

00:06:09.760 that they did not need to agree on the exact unlawful means to render a unanimous guilty verdict

00:06:16.060 against Trump. 0.95

00:06:17.280 People are saying that the instructions that he gave to the jury were absolutely ridiculous, 0.88

00:06:22.100 almost unprecedented, and shows the bias of this particular judge. 0.84

00:06:27.200 So here are part of his instructions.

00:06:29.500 You need not be unanimous as to what the unlawful means were.

00:06:35.920 You may consider violations of Federal Employees Compensation Act, that's federal election campaign

00:06:41.520 law, falsification of other business records, violation of tax laws.

00:06:47.460 This is via CBS News.

00:06:49.440 Under New York law, falsification of business records is a crime when the records are altered

00:06:53.960 with an intent to defraud.

00:06:55.940 To be charged as a felony, prosecutors must also show that the offender intended to commit

00:07:01.040 another crime or aid or conceal another crime when falsifying records.

00:07:05.900 In Trump's case, that other crime was a violation of New York election law that makes it illegal

00:07:10.100 for any two or more persons to conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public

00:07:17.120 office by unlawful means.

00:07:20.160 But again, what exactly those unlawful means were in this case was up to the jury to decide.

00:07:27.280 So they really didn't have to be unanimous.

00:07:29.320 They just had to say, yeah, there were some unlawful means here.

00:07:33.140 And four people could have thought it was one thing, the rest could have thought it was

00:07:37.500 something else.

00:07:38.780 Prosecutors put forth three areas that they could consider.

00:07:41.620 A violation of federal campaign finance laws.

00:07:45.420 And then, as I already said, a violation of tax laws, falsification of other business

00:07:49.680 records.

00:07:51.220 Jurors did not need to agree on what the underlying thing was.

00:07:55.600 They just had to conclude, again, that he did so with the intent to defraud.

00:08:00.700 And that included an intent to commit another crime.

00:08:04.160 A legal expert, Jonathan Turley, explained in a post on X, Merchant just delivered the

00:08:10.400 coup de grace instruction.

00:08:12.200 He said that there is no need to agree on what occurred.

00:08:15.460 They can disagree on what the crime was among the three choices.

00:08:18.320 This means that they could split 4-4-4 and he will still treat them as unanimous.

00:08:25.100 He says, or Paul Ingracia, he is a journalist.

00:08:30.800 He says, this may be the broadest definition of a crime in history.

00:08:34.440 Merchant is literally throwing the whole book at the jury.

00:08:37.340 What authority does he have as a state court judge from a mediocre law school to opine on

00:08:42.380 something as nuanced as federal election law?

00:08:44.300 It's so intricate and complex that the FEC has exclusive jurisdiction and ordinarily preempts

00:08:49.600 other courts from all federal election law related issues.

00:08:54.960 Trump had something to say about the jury instructions.

00:08:57.120 He said on Truth Social, the jury instructions given by highly

00:09:00.420 conflicted judge Juan Merchant were unfair, misleading, inaccurate and unconstitutional.

00:09:06.040 They were also very confusing, just what the judge wanted, because there was no crime.

00:09:13.660 Trump's attorneys are expected to appeal the decision quickly, and we'll talk a little

00:09:17.960 bit more about that process in a few minutes.

00:09:20.620 Prior to the verdict, Will Scharf, an attorney for Trump, told CNN's Jake Tapper that they

00:09:24.720 were prepared to appeal if Trump would be convicted.

00:09:27.900 Trump's sentencing hearing for the New York City criminal conviction is scheduled for July

00:09:33.040 11th.

00:09:33.680 That's just days before the start of the 2024 Republican National Convention.

00:09:41.380 All right.

00:09:41.720 So there's a lot of there are many responses and reactions from legal experts all across

00:09:47.460 the aisle on this verdict.

00:09:50.200 If it was justified, if it was not justified, you can imagine what a lot of people think

00:09:56.420 about that, how this is going to affect Trump's ability to run for president.

00:10:01.680 Okay, so this is from the Intelligencer, New York Magazine.

00:10:17.640 This is a very left-leaning outlet, and the legal expert that wrote this article is arguing

00:10:25.620 that prosecutors contorted the law in order to convict Trump, that this really was not

00:10:35.660 a legitimate case, that because Alvin Bragg, this politically-minded, ideologically-driven

00:10:44.040 prosecutor, just wanted to find a way to put Trump behind bars so he could say that he did

00:10:50.880 it, because he personally doesn't like Trump, because he knew that this would make him popular,

00:10:55.620 among liberals.

00:10:56.700 They had to contort the law in order to make Trump guilty.

00:10:59.940 And of course, when something like this, when a trial like this goes on in very liberal Manhattan,

00:11:06.760 the jury pool is going to be extremely left-wing.

00:11:10.620 And what we know about a lot of left-wing people is that they have an irrational disdain for Donald

00:11:18.880 Trump, that they are actually unable to be impartial.

00:11:22.800 Impartiality is a central tenet of justice.

00:11:27.360 If you are not impartial, if you cannot just look at the facts of the case and decide whether

00:11:32.940 someone is guilty based on the facts, then you cannot be a part of justice.

00:11:39.260 If you are partial and that you have some kind of bias against or bias toward someone in a

00:11:48.180 case, then you are unable to actually bring about a just outcome.

00:11:55.080 Of course, we see this biblically, as we've talked about many times before.

00:11:58.620 This is the difference between justice and social justice.

00:12:02.060 Social justice is only concerned about the outcomes and what it perceives to be good retribution or

00:12:12.020 trying to make sure that everyone gets even, whereas justice really cares about the procedure.

00:12:18.100 And God says over and over again, particularly in the Old Testament and His law giving to Israel,

00:12:23.540 we can see what He thinks about the principles of justice, that one of the qualifications of

00:12:28.880 justice is that it must be impartial.

00:12:31.880 He says you cannot defer to the poor nor to the great, but in truth you judge your neighbor.

00:12:38.220 Of course, the other definitions or the other descriptors of justice, it has to be direct.

00:12:44.800 It also has to be truthful and the punishment has to be proportional to the crime.

00:12:50.380 We see all of this when we look at the due process that God put in place in the Old Testament,

00:12:56.220 the principles of which should still be applied today.

00:13:00.140 And we did not see that in this case.

00:13:02.280 And even those who are secular, even in this case, in this article that I'm about to read

00:13:06.000 the summary of from a left wing perspective, even from that angle, people understand that

00:13:12.980 people understand that this wasn't actually justice, although some irrational people are

00:13:18.080 still celebrating.

00:13:19.200 So here's what the article argues.

00:13:21.840 This is a CNN senior legal analyst, and she describes how the Trump conviction was a political

00:13:28.880 hit job.

00:13:30.000 And here are the points that she gets.

00:13:32.360 Number one, the judge merchant donated money in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New

00:13:36.820 York judges from making political donations to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation.

00:13:42.420 Now, the donation was small.

00:13:43.900 It was $35, but it was still a violation.

00:13:46.500 And would people have been fine with the judge staying on the case if he had donated a couple

00:13:52.540 bucks to reelect Donald Trump, MAGA forever campaign?

00:13:56.480 Absolutely not.

00:13:57.200 It wouldn't have mattered if it was 50 cents.

00:13:59.380 People would have said that this person was biased, that he is disqualified.

00:14:03.480 DA Alvin Bragg boasted on the campaign, as we said, on the campaign trail in an overwhelmingly

00:14:08.180 Democrat county.

00:14:09.620 It is a fact that I have sued Trump over 100 times.

00:14:13.040 Again, this is, he found the man, he's looking for the crime.

00:14:17.280 That is unjust, no matter who it is.

00:14:20.620 Number three, the DA's charges against Trump push the outer boundaries of the law and due

00:14:26.580 process.

00:14:27.860 The charges against Trump are obscure and nearly entirely unprecedented.

00:14:32.200 In fact, no state prosecutor in New York or Wyoming or anywhere has ever charged federal

00:14:37.360 election laws as a direct or predicate state crime against anyone for anything, none.

00:14:43.120 Ever.

00:14:44.080 Standing alone, falsification charges would have been mere misdemeanors under New York

00:14:49.120 law, which posed two problems for the DA, Alvin Bragg, who is looking to charge Trump.

00:14:54.540 First, nobody cares about a misdemeanor, and it would be laughable to bring the first ever

00:14:57.980 charge against a former president for a trifling offense.

00:15:00.480 Second, the statute of limitations on a misdemeanor two years likely expired.

00:15:04.340 So he is looking for a felony charge.

00:15:07.500 The DA inflated misdemeanors past the statute of limitations and electroshocked them back

00:15:13.480 to life by alleging the falsification of business records was committed with intent to commit

00:15:18.840 another crime.

00:15:20.280 So this goes back to the summary at the beginning of what he had to say happened in order for

00:15:25.060 this to be a legitimate case at all.

00:15:26.560 Inexcusably, the DA refused to specify what those unlawful means actually were.

00:15:32.640 The judge declined to force them to pony up until right before closing arguments, so

00:15:37.740 much for the constitutional obligation to provide notice to the defendant of the accusations against

00:15:42.600 him advance of trial.

00:15:44.980 In these key aspects, the charges against Trump aren't just unusual.

00:15:49.520 They're bespoke, seemingly crafted individually for the former president and nobody else.

00:15:55.080 Again, that is the definition of injustice.

00:15:59.260 The Manhattan DA's employees reportedly have called this the zombie case because of various

00:16:04.720 legal infirmities, including its bizarre charging mechanism.

00:16:09.240 But it's better characterized as the Frankenstein case, cobbled together with ill-fitting parts

00:16:14.060 into an ugly, awkward, but more or less functioning contraption that just might ultimately turn

00:16:19.360 on its creator.

00:16:21.160 Now, the author doesn't go so far as to say that an appeals court will overturn this conviction.

00:16:27.700 New York law is broad.

00:16:28.920 It's hazy enough to potentially allow these mechanisms.

00:16:33.360 But he is going to have a decent shot at reversal, apparently, even in New York.

00:16:40.200 No man is above the law.

00:16:41.780 That's what we kept hearing from the left.

00:16:43.720 That's what we heard from Joe Biden after no man is above the law.

00:16:46.880 No man is above the law. 0.89

00:16:48.360 We'll get into why that's so ridiculous more in a second.

00:16:51.600 But the author says it's become cliche, but it's an important point.

00:16:54.860 And it's worth pausing to reflect on the importance of this core principle.

00:16:58.520 But it's also meaningless, pablum, if we unquestioningly tolerate or we celebrate deviations from ordinary

00:17:06.600 process and principle to get there.

00:17:08.920 Here, prosecutors got their man, for now at least, but they also contorted the law in

00:17:14.000 an unprecedented manner in their quest to snare their prey.

00:17:19.860 So, obviously, Trump himself and Trump supporters and people who aren't Trump supporters are calling

00:17:29.300 this a witch hunt.

00:17:30.740 They are rightly saying that this is so hypocritical that they have unleashed a new era of lawfare 0.79

00:17:36.560 that is going to come back to bite Democrats. 0.88

00:17:40.080 Should Republicans take power again?

00:17:42.820 Should Trump somehow still manage to win the White House?

00:17:47.040 Now, do Republicans have the gall?

00:17:49.800 Do they have the courage to turn this back around and to use the weapons that have been

00:17:53.880 wielded by the left on their political enemies?

00:17:57.580 I don't know.

00:17:58.720 I don't think they do.

00:18:00.420 And would that solve things for the better in the long run?

00:18:03.060 I'm not sure.

00:18:04.100 Maybe that's just the generation that we're in now, though.

00:18:06.600 Maybe we don't think about what's going to happen in 10 years.

00:18:11.260 Maybe you just have to use the tools that are given to you and use them in the moment.

00:18:16.700 I'm not saying that that is the that's the long term solution.

00:18:20.960 I'm not saying that that's what's going to make a better country, but maybe it is what

00:18:27.020 Democrats want it to be.

00:18:28.720 Maybe it really is just a fight to the death.

00:18:30.860 And maybe that is what it's going to take for everyone to put down their weapons and

00:18:37.640 say, OK, enough with the lawfare, enough with trying to destroy the other side completely.

00:18:44.580 I'm not sure.

00:18:46.720 According to Fox News, Judge Juan Merchant, who presided over the case, said Trump was

00:18:50.760 required to be in court every day for the trial except Wednesdays when the court was not

00:18:55.400 in session.

00:18:55.960 Of course, that meant that Trump couldn't really campaign.

00:18:58.320 And if you've been feeling like, OK, wait, the election is happening in November.

00:19:03.200 Why does it feel like the campaign hasn't really started?

00:19:06.360 Why does it feel like neither side is campaigning?

00:19:08.580 Well, Joe Biden is not really campaigning because he can't because he can't talk.

00:19:13.860 And so they're going to employ as much as they can the same strategy that they did in the

00:19:18.740 2020 election.

00:19:20.380 They're going to hide him away as much as possible because he's not coherent.

00:19:25.440 He doesn't have really a cogent thought.

00:19:28.740 And so they know that the more they can parade Trump as a convicted felon, the more they can

00:19:34.880 point to him as this bad guy.

00:19:37.320 They don't really have to present Joe Biden as this strong with it hero.

00:19:44.100 They just have to make Trump look bad because they know that people aren't voting for Joe

00:19:49.040 Biden.

00:19:49.840 There are very few people who are voting for Joe Biden.

00:19:52.680 But there's a large contingency of people that are voting against Donald Trump because

00:19:57.300 they believe this nonsense that he is going to bring about tyranny, that he is the threat

00:20:03.080 to democratic norms.

00:20:04.440 You have one side that is celebrating injustice, that is celebrating this kind of banana republic, 1.00

00:20:13.900 tyrannical effort to try to exact vengeance against their political opponent.

00:20:21.480 And not just vengeance, but try to inhibit him during a campaign season through lawfare.

00:20:29.400 And they are accusing Donald Trump and his supporters of being the threat to democracy.

00:20:36.920 Of course, everything they accuse someone of is actually just a projection.

00:20:42.620 As we've said before, the definition of democracy, according to the left, is authoritarianism that

00:20:49.360 they like authoritarianism, according to the left, is democracy that they do not like.

00:20:55.860 They're not dealing in real definitions here.

00:20:59.260 It's so important whenever we hear anything coming from the left or really anyone, but

00:21:04.440 particularly the left, because they control most of the media, academia, public education,

00:21:09.860 most of the federal government, the intelligence agencies, the UN, the WHO, the W.E.F.

00:21:16.100 I mean, they have their claws in all of it.

00:21:19.360 It's so important for us to define our terms and to really think thoughtfully about everything

00:21:23.740 that we hear and read when it comes from them.

00:21:27.720 The 2024 presumptive Republican nominee took advantage of the location of the trial in New

00:21:33.280 York City and highlighted that it has been in decline since Manhattan District Attorney Alvin

00:21:38.380 Bragg took office.

00:21:40.120 He also made local campaign stops in New York City, very smart, visiting a Harlem bodega,

00:21:45.660 delivering pizza to first responders at a Midtown Manhattan fire department.

00:21:50.000 He took photos with each firefighter, didn't talk to the press, good for him, holding rallies

00:21:54.960 around New York, which drew historic crowds in traditionally blue districts.

00:21:58.960 We didn't cover this at the time, but he held a rally in the Bronx, I think it was last

00:22:04.560 week or a couple of weeks ago.

00:22:05.960 And it looked like it was going to be horrible weather, that there's going to be flooding,

00:22:10.260 that they were going to be unable to actually host this rally, that not a lot of people would

00:22:13.900 come.

00:22:14.700 You had AOC quote tweeting a post about, you know, the horrible rainfall that they were

00:22:20.860 going to see that afternoon when the Trump rally was supposed to be held, saying like,

00:22:25.140 God is good.

00:22:26.060 So praising God for the terrible weather.

00:22:28.200 It turns out that there were totally clear skies, that it was a beautiful evening.

00:22:32.480 And Trump held this historic rally with thousands and thousands of people there in ardent support

00:22:39.260 of him.

00:22:40.060 Over 25,000 people just ahead of Memorial Day, 25,000 people in the Bronx.

00:22:46.140 They were expecting 3,500 people to show up at this rally.

00:22:49.440 25,000 people showed up for this Trump rally in the Bronx.

00:22:55.000 Just incredible.

00:22:57.100 I mean, whether you like the guy or not, that is incredible.

00:22:59.600 When he was not in court on Wednesdays, the former president crisscrossed the nation for

00:23:03.760 rallies and campaign stops, who returned to New York City for court first thing Thursday

00:23:08.500 morning.

00:23:09.120 The only non-Wednesday Trump spent outside the courtroom was May 17th, when he traveled home

00:23:14.180 to Palm Beach, Florida to attend and celebrate the high school graduation of his youngest son,

00:23:19.420 Barron Trump.

00:23:21.300 So good for him.

00:23:29.600 Immediately following the verdict, Trump made this statement, this was a disgrace. 0.64

00:23:39.060 It was a rigged trial by a convicted judge who was corrupt.

00:23:43.760 He said they wouldn't give us a venue change because his side did ask for a venue change.

00:23:48.240 That's very normal to do.

00:23:50.140 We were at 5% or 6% in this district, in this area.

00:23:53.240 This was a rigged disgraceful trial.

00:23:54.900 The real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people, and they know what happened

00:23:59.660 here, and everybody knows what happened here.

00:24:01.980 Now, a lot of you have asked, how is he going to campaign if he is actually in jail?

00:24:06.380 Now, it's not likely that he is going to go to jail, but it's not impossible.

00:24:11.140 It's not impossible that he will be in jail.

00:24:13.080 How will he campaign from jail?

00:24:15.000 I'm not sure that he will have to campaign if he is in jail.

00:24:17.520 I mean, right after this, he raised so much money just from this conviction, tens of millions

00:24:26.660 of dollars, even prominent people coming out and saying, I support Donald Trump now.

00:24:31.360 Wasn't going to support Donald Trump, but they're saying, I'm going to support Donald Trump now.

00:24:36.240 And if that's what it takes to stop the weaponization of the justice system in this country against

00:24:43.840 political enemies, which really is representative of tens of millions of people that support Donald

00:24:49.000 Trump, or either at least just don't support Joe Biden, then that's what it's going to take.

00:24:54.000 And so I'm not sure that he'll even have to campaign.

00:24:57.380 I saw this meme.

00:24:58.920 I think Elon Musk posted it this morning that I thought was funny.

00:25:01.800 It was like, I don't know what it's from, but it was a picture of what's supposed to be

00:25:06.320 like a liberal and conservative looking at each other and being like, wait, and looking

00:25:10.380 confused and it was like liberals wearing a t-shirt of Trump's mugshot, conservatives wearing

00:25:16.880 a t-shirt of Trump's mugshot.

00:25:18.560 They're both wearing it, but for very different reasons.

00:25:21.520 The right is wearing the t-shirt with Trump's mugshot to be like, yeah, I don't, I don't

00:25:27.860 care.

00:25:28.740 I don't care. 0.84

00:25:29.640 I don't give a rat's patootie about what the Democrats say, what you're going to call 0.94

00:25:35.720 me, and basically this is like, sorry, this is crass.

00:25:40.040 I'm not saying that this would be a good thing to do, but I don't know how else to describe

00:25:43.100 it.

00:25:43.580 The right is wearing it like a middle finger to the left.

00:25:46.800 Like, look, I'm not scared of you.

00:25:48.700 The left is using it as a middle finger to the right and saying, yay, this is a celebration.

00:25:54.000 We got our man.

00:25:54.980 Really, it's a celebration of the definition of injustice, whether or not you like Trump,

00:26:00.620 because the question is not whether he ever did something wrong. 0.92

00:26:03.980 The question is not whether it was good for him to be doing it with a porn star.

00:26:10.660 The question is not whether it was right and moral of him to be giving hush money through

00:26:16.400 his lawyer to Stormy Daniels.

00:26:19.400 That's not the question at hand here.

00:26:21.380 The question is, were these charges correct?

00:26:24.800 Was the jury correct?

00:26:26.740 Was the jury impartial?

00:26:28.160 Was the judge impartial?

00:26:29.600 Was the conclusion of this trial just and true?

00:26:32.620 And the answer to that is unequivocally no.

00:26:35.920 That's what matters here.

00:26:37.000 We used to be able to suss things like that out.

00:26:40.600 And I'll talk about some historical examples of us being able to be objective as a nation,

00:26:45.520 even when we really disagreed with something or disagreed with the person or disliked the

00:26:50.600 person.

00:26:51.080 We're past that now, unfortunately.

00:26:54.160 On Sunday morning, former President Trump spoke with Fox and Friends in an exclusive interview,

00:26:58.840 and they asked him, you know, what if you go to jail?

00:27:01.760 Here's that one.

00:27:03.520 The judge could decide to say, hey, house arrest or even jail.

00:27:06.260 It could face what that could look like.

00:27:07.820 I'm OK with it.

00:27:08.640 I saw one of my lawyers the other day on television saying, oh, no, you don't want to do that to

00:27:13.560 the president.

00:27:13.940 I said, don't you don't beg for anything.

00:27:15.940 You just the way it is.

00:27:17.020 Yeah, you know, that's his attitude.

00:27:19.400 It's got to be it's got to be his attitude.

00:27:23.920 You don't beg for anything.

00:27:25.540 It is what it is.

00:27:27.140 And as I said, like that is probably going to help him in the campaign.

00:27:32.480 Now, some people are saying that if this is a if this is appealed, he faces a lot of difficulty

00:27:39.040 in the appeals court.

00:27:40.280 Some people are pointing out that the court that he would face, the appeals court that 0.91

00:27:46.780 he would face is made up of entirely black women. 0.99

00:27:51.900 That's what people are saying. 0.93

00:27:53.260 They posted a picture of the appeals court.

00:27:55.320 The reason that they're saying that that makes it unlikely for him to win this case is because

00:28:01.020 black women tend to be mostly very liberal, very left wing. 1.00

00:28:07.160 This is just statistically true.

00:28:10.280 Um, but however, this is not, uh, this is not the entire court.

00:28:16.240 There are 21 judges in this division.

00:28:18.340 Five are black.

00:28:19.820 The picture was taken in February when those five happened to be ruling together over several

00:28:23.540 appeals cases this spring.

00:28:25.020 It was the first time that that happened.

00:28:26.720 And so people saying, okay, this is the appeals court.

00:28:29.940 This is the entire appeals court. 0.86

00:28:31.520 This is who Trump is going to be facing when they appeal or these liberal black women. 1.00

00:28:36.400 Um, that's not, that's not true.

00:28:38.560 These are just five people who happened to be on the court.

00:28:43.040 Um, and so I don't think that that's really a good point.

00:28:47.080 So if you see that picture, that point floating around, just realize that that's not exactly

00:28:51.660 the whole picture.

00:28:52.480 Now it may be true that he doesn't have a good chance of winning on appeal.

00:28:58.180 And it might be true that all 21 judges or the majority of the 21 judges are so biased

00:29:03.360 because they are left wing.

00:29:04.780 But the existence of these five judges who happen to be black women doesn't really support 0.84

00:29:10.040 that point.

00:29:11.200 Um, according to Newsweek, there's no specific reason to think that these five would hear

00:29:15.120 Trump's case.

00:29:15.720 If he decides to appeal, given that there are 21 justices on the court in total on a statistical

00:29:20.380 basis, the odds would be low.

00:29:23.220 Again, could be concerned for other reasons, but I would not say that reason.

00:29:27.660 Now, many people are pointing out, including Donald Trump, as we mentioned, uh, that this 0.97

00:29:33.160 is an extremely hypocritical, uh, hypocritical ruling and hypocritical statements, uh, that 0.91

00:29:41.560 no one is above the law given how Alvin Bragg treats criminals in New York City. 0.88

00:29:48.900 So here's just some history of Alvin Bragg who claims that no man is above the law.

00:29:54.500 We care about justice.

00:29:55.940 We care about the rule of law here in New York City.

00:29:58.800 Well, of course, no, he doesn't.

00:30:01.320 This is via Heritage.

00:30:03.100 The Heritage Foundation Bragg sent a memo to all staff in the district attorney's office

00:30:08.620 when he took charge in January, 2022, outlining his new policies.

00:30:11.860 The Heritage Foundation summarized the dangerous soft on crime charges or changes below elimination

00:30:17.260 of pretrial detention slash cash bail for the following cases.

00:30:20.860 The elimination of cash bail everywhere that has been implemented has led to destruction,

00:30:26.020 has led to more rampant crime, criminals getting away with things that they should not be getting

00:30:32.500 away with, violent criminals being let out into, uh, back into the community, committing

00:30:37.300 more murder, more robberies, more rapes, more assaults.

00:30:40.540 Every single place that the elimination of cash bail has been implemented, that has been

00:30:45.560 the result.

00:30:46.480 New York City, of course, is no exception.

00:30:50.600 Also, uh, so these are the cases in which, uh, the elimination of pretrial detention and

00:30:58.480 cash bail was implemented.

00:30:59.740 Robbery, burglary, breaking and entering, carjacking, possession with intent to distribute any drug,

00:31:04.100 witness tampering, domestic violence, domestic violence, arson, bribery, kidnapping, larceny,

00:31:09.640 use of a child in sexual performance.

00:31:12.840 Okay.

00:31:13.800 Criminal possession of a firearm, child endangerment, elder abuse, unlawful surveillance, and more.

00:31:19.560 Prosecutors can only ask for prison where defendants are convicted of the following offenses.

00:31:24.920 Can only ask for prison in these cases.

00:31:26.860 Homicide, a Class B felony where the victim suffered serious physical injury from a deadly

00:31:31.480 weapon, domestic violence, felonies, sex offenses such as rape, and child sex abuse.

00:31:39.440 Now, I'm a little confused about that.

00:31:41.380 Apparently, they can ask for prison.

00:31:43.260 Okay, so they can ask for prison there, but there can't be cash bail and pretrial detention

00:31:48.860 in that case.

00:31:49.820 Public corruption, rackets, uh, uh, major economic crimes.

00:31:55.560 Bragg has announced crimes that his office will not prosecute, possessing marijuana, refusing

00:32:01.980 to pay for the fare for public transportation, trespassing, failing to pay fines for unlicensed

00:32:08.320 operation of motor vehicle, committing any traffic infraction, resisting arrest, obstructing

00:32:14.000 governmental administration, engaging in prostitution, most other misdemeanor offenses.

00:32:19.840 This makes it very difficult for police officers to catch, uh, criminals that are typically also,

00:32:27.380 um, guilty of much worse crimes than that.

00:32:31.440 So he is actually not a fan of justice or a fan of enforcing the law at all.

00:32:37.280 It's only when it comes to Donald Trump.

00:32:39.800 Um, in 2020, this was, uh, an article from 2021, but in 2020, according to NBC News, charges

00:32:49.220 were dropped for hundreds of alleged looters in New York city, a review of NYPD data by

00:32:56.440 the investigative team at WNBC, uh, shows that a large percentage of the cases, particularly

00:33:01.300 in the Bronx were dismissed and that many convictions were for counts like trespassing

00:33:05.300 that carry no jail time.

00:33:08.100 So there were hundreds of arrests.

00:33:09.640 He ended up dropping the charges for people who looted.

00:33:12.620 So that means they were thieves.

00:33:14.240 They committed violence in many of these cases, but he decided of course, because they were

00:33:18.800 rioting in the name of BLM that, uh, it didn't matter and that they didn't need to see any

00:33:25.520 jail time.

00:33:26.660 According to the Daily Mail, recent data shows that progressive Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg

00:33:30.720 downgraded staggering 60% of fallacy cases to lesser charges last year amid fury over criminals

00:33:37.120 being repeatedly released to roam the streets of New York.

00:33:40.500 Here's just one example.

00:33:41.900 Joseph Borgen, 31, he was the victim of an anti-Jewish mob assault in Manhattan.

00:33:48.820 Um, he spoke out slamming the plea deal that allowed one of his attackers off with just 18

00:33:54.200 months behind bars.

00:33:56.260 He faced the, his attacker faced seven years in jail after being filmed beating Borgen with 0.94

00:34:01.760 crutches, calling him a dirty Jew and pepper spraying him in the 2021 attack. 0.80

00:34:06.120 He only got 18 months. 0.97

00:34:07.340 Um, Bragg was also slammed recently for allowing men accused of brutally beating two NYPD cops in

00:34:14.100 Times Square in January to walk free, uh, the suspects in the shocking attack after being freed

00:34:21.660 without bail are believed to have swapped immigration numbers with other people at their

00:34:25.160 shelter and use the misappropriated identities to obtain vouchers and free bus tickets under fake

00:34:30.640 names.

00:34:31.180 This is so-called criminal justice.

00:34:33.240 This is so-called racial justice.

00:34:34.980 This is social justice.

00:34:37.340 By saying, oh, look, I have fewer people in prison.

00:34:39.960 I have fewer black people in prison.

00:34:41.340 I have fewer brown people in prison.

00:34:43.340 That means I've obtained social justice.

00:34:45.600 Why?

00:34:45.920 Because social justice is only concerned with the outcomes.

00:34:49.160 It's not actually concerned with the procedure or the process, which according to the God who

00:34:53.320 created justice is not justice.

00:34:55.540 And it always leads to chaos disorder and disarray.

00:34:58.500 Alvin Bragg, his campaign was in part funded by George Soros.

00:35:02.640 George Soros is invested in the destruction of the United States because he does not believe,

00:35:07.340 in Western civilization.

00:35:08.680 He doesn't believe in any kind of nationalistic pride.

00:35:12.200 He doesn't believe in a strong U.S.

00:35:14.440 He sees a strong U.S.

00:35:15.840 as an impediment to the new global order in which just a few oligarchs at the top are in

00:35:23.320 charge, and they can reorder fundamentally society and service to his radical climate change

00:35:30.140 agenda, which is just a form of communism.

00:35:34.300 It is a form of mass poverty and mass oppression, where the people at the very top get rich and

00:35:40.560 have the full concentration of power.

00:35:42.960 And so the more he can bring the United States into disarray by ensuring that his people, that 1.00

00:35:49.020 his left wing prosecutors and judges and politicians are placed in charge, the more that he can tear

00:35:57.800 America apart at the seams by making our borders completely irrelevant and porous, the closer

00:36:04.700 he gets to that new global order.

00:36:07.700 So yes, stopping Trump is actually a part of all of that.

00:36:12.700 Elon Musk said,

00:36:14.040 Indeed, great damage was done today to the public's faith in the American legal system.

00:36:18.420 If a former president can be criminally convicted over such a trivial matter motivated by politics

00:36:23.860 rather than justice, then anyone is at risk of a similar fate.

00:36:27.440 And of course, we saw this in the disparate outcomes of different criminals in Washington,

00:36:32.480 D.C., for example.

00:36:33.980 The same thing happened there with the looters, with the rioters, with violent criminals getting

00:36:38.320 to walk free, while grandmothers who peacefully walked through the Capitol on January 6th,

00:36:44.900 they were charged.

00:36:46.820 There are people in prison.

00:36:48.220 There were people in solitary confinement who committed lesser crimes than the criminals

00:36:54.900 who were able to walk free, the violent criminals who have been able to walk free in Washington,

00:37:00.480 D.C.

00:37:00.800 We have seen peaceful pro-life advocates who were praying outside clinics, who were standing outside

00:37:06.320 abortion clinics, see more prison time than some of the most violent offenders in places

00:37:13.280 like New York and D.C.

00:37:16.180 So Elon Musk, he has spoken against this in several different posts on X.

00:37:24.380 Ben Shapiro points out the hypocrisy of all of this, the seriousness of all of this.

00:37:29.440 He says Trump is the threat to democracy.

00:37:31.280 Are you serious?

00:37:32.040 Biden has activated his DOJ to target Trump in three separate jurisdictions while avoiding

00:37:39.100 criminal culpability for himself and his son, Hunter Biden.

00:37:43.000 Tried to use OSHA to force 80 million Americans to take the vaccine, defy the Supreme Court by

00:37:48.000 illegally waiving student loan debt.

00:37:50.840 That's something that he bragged about recently.

00:37:53.780 Biden said, oh, I ignored the Supreme Court who said that forgiving student loan debt, appropriating

00:38:00.560 our tax dollars to pay for the student loans that were voluntarily taken out by those students.

00:38:07.740 He said that he ignored the Supreme Court, that he is going forth with that while simultaneously

00:38:11.700 saying that no one is above the law.

00:38:14.500 He used governmental agencies to threaten social media companies.

00:38:17.840 He attacked states for attempting to enforce border law.

00:38:20.520 The list continues.

00:38:21.620 That's just the short version.

00:38:23.420 Liz Wheeler has a really good list showing the hypocrisy of our justice system in the United 1.00

00:38:28.440 States that is weaponized against Republicans, anyone who is not on the left.

00:38:32.860 She said Hillary Clinton deleted 30,000 emails.

00:38:35.440 Epstein's clients walk free.

00:38:37.140 Mayorkas allowed the invasion of our border. 1.00

00:38:39.960 Pelosi is rich from insider trading. 1.00

00:38:43.060 Hunter is a crack addict with hookers. 1.00

00:38:45.240 Biden sold access to Chinese commies. 1.00

00:38:47.200 Steven D'Antuano staged the Whitmer Fed napping on January 6th.

00:38:53.760 Peter Sork and Lisa Page weaponized the FBI to, quote unquote, get Trump.

00:38:58.760 Fauci lied about funding gain of function that created the COVID-19 virus.

00:39:04.000 Cuomo, through his policies, killed 11,000 elderly people in New York.

00:39:07.760 Pfizer and Moderna lied about the safety of the mRNA jabs.

00:39:11.560 Planned Parenthood sold aborted baby parts, baby body parts.

00:39:15.520 This is all true.

00:39:16.580 And they're all walking free, she says.

00:39:17.960 But Trump is convicted for paying his attorney.

00:39:22.280 He's exactly right.

00:39:24.060 Nancy Pelosi has a tweet that is recirculating.

00:39:27.340 She said this last year.

00:39:29.100 She said the grand jury has acted upon the facts and the law.

00:39:31.640 No one is above the law and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence.

00:39:35.580 Hopefully the former president will peacefully respect the system which grants him that right.

00:39:40.100 No, we do not have a right to a trial to prove innocence.

00:39:44.000 That is not how our justice system is supposed to work.

00:39:48.540 It is on the side of the prosecution to prove that the defense is guilty.

00:39:56.080 It's not about guilt versus innocence, by the way.

00:39:59.500 It's guilty versus not guilty.

00:40:02.800 And that is different.

00:40:04.460 Not guilty and innocent are two different things.

00:40:07.980 And it is on the side of the prosecution to try to prove that the defense is guilty.

00:40:15.160 You don't go into a trial to try to prove your innocence.

00:40:18.680 Again, we're talking about banana republic, third world country type stuff, where the government

00:40:24.700 comes up with a crime to charge you with and you have to try to prove that you're not guilty

00:40:30.060 of the crime when it's already been stacked against you.

00:40:32.880 The jury is stacked against you.

00:40:35.980 The judge is stacked against you.

00:40:37.780 That is not justice.

00:40:39.460 That is not a justice system by any real definition of justice.

00:40:46.980 Biden was asked in a press conference about the verdict.

00:40:51.160 The reporter said,

00:40:52.460 President Trump refers to himself as a political prisoner and blames you directly.

00:40:56.520 What's your response to that, sir?

00:40:58.700 Here's Sot 3, Biden's response.

00:41:00.720 Mr. President, can you tell us, sir, Donald Trump refers to himself as a political prisoner

00:41:06.680 and blames you as a political prisoner and blames you as a political prisoner and blames you

00:41:09.100 as a political prisoner and blames you as a political prisoner and blames you as a political

00:41:09.780 president.

00:41:09.860 Do you think the conviction will have an impact on the campaign?

00:41:17.700 We'd love to hear your thoughts, sir.

00:41:19.180 Should you be on the ballot, sir?

00:41:22.160 Okay, so he just creepily, if you're just listening to this, he just creepily looks at the

00:41:25.420 camera and smiles.

00:41:26.840 Now, I would say that that's evil.

00:41:29.280 If I thought that he had any thoughts in his brain, I would say, wow, that is so wicked.

00:41:36.280 That's so sinister that he's just looking at the camera and smiling creepily with this

00:41:41.700 weird twinkle in his eye at that question.

00:41:43.980 But I actually don't think that he heard them.

00:41:46.880 Like, I don't think that he even processed what was said.

00:41:50.740 I think that that's just kind of what you do when you don't know what's going on.

00:41:54.420 You just smile.

00:41:55.900 And I say this, I'm not saying this in a snarky way.

00:41:59.120 Like, I have been around older people who have dementia in the early stages of dementia.

00:42:04.720 That look that he gave is very familiar.

00:42:07.960 Like, it is very typical of people whose minds are just fading.

00:42:11.920 You just kind of look out with a blank stare and you smile and you hope that that's the

00:42:16.120 right response.

00:42:17.540 And so I think it's equally dangerous and equally scary that he is so absent mentally

00:42:22.600 that he doesn't have a good response to that.

00:42:25.320 But I actually don't think he is intentionally being sinister there.

00:42:28.180 I think he just has no idea what in the world is going on around him.

00:42:35.720 And I also want to get to the evangelical response about this.

00:42:40.100 That Russell Moore, of course, you guys know who he is.

00:42:44.540 He has been a part of the Southern Baptist Convention for a long time.

00:42:48.160 He was the head of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Committee for a while.

00:42:53.140 And he has been a staunch anti-Trump voice.

00:42:56.480 And he, of course, had something to say about this.

00:43:10.100 So Russell Moore tweeted right after this conviction, right after the verdict, he said,

00:43:17.540 the question is what it has always been, fit or unfit?

00:43:22.020 And the answer was obvious all along.

00:43:25.560 Character matters still.

00:43:28.900 Obviously referring to Donald Trump there.

00:43:33.260 Now, there is no mention of the justice or injustice of not just the verdict, but the process itself.

00:43:46.900 And as someone who I know knows what the Bible has to say about justice,

00:43:53.980 I know that he knows that God says that he hates partiality,

00:43:58.600 that God demands impartiality.

00:44:02.280 When it comes to us, when it comes to law giving, I know he knows that.

00:44:07.660 I know he knows scripture.

00:44:10.080 I know that he knows the Bible.

00:44:12.800 Likely, in many ways, better than I do, just when it comes to his sheer knowledge of biblical stories.

00:44:20.920 And yet, he doesn't seem to care, as indicated to me in this tweet, about justice.

00:44:28.140 About what the definition of justice really is.

00:44:32.280 And this is someone who has very little to say about Joe Biden.

00:44:36.600 Very little to say any more about policies that are not only harmful, directly harmful,

00:44:44.880 but are also downright unbiblical.

00:44:48.380 Now, I'm not saying that he has never talked about abortion,

00:44:51.480 or that he's never talked about the definition of marriage,

00:44:54.380 but he's been very quiet about these things since Trump has become almost his sole focus

00:45:00.460 when it comes to political discussions.

00:45:04.360 Megan Basham, who is really like the expert when it comes to this segment of evangelicals,

00:45:11.200 she looked through Russell Moore's Twitter history for all of time since Russell Moore has been on Twitter,

00:45:20.260 just to see what he said about Biden.

00:45:22.120 Because I don't mind criticism of Donald Trump.

00:45:24.800 You guys know that.

00:45:26.120 Anyone who calls me some kind of Trump MAGA grifter,

00:45:29.900 or some Trump sycophant, someone who won't criticize Donald Trump.

00:45:34.820 You just don't know.

00:45:35.920 You haven't listened.

00:45:36.800 You haven't watched.

00:45:38.040 I get absolutely reamed by Trump supporters sometimes.

00:45:41.660 Not all of you.

00:45:42.620 But sometimes when I do criticize Donald Trump,

00:45:45.980 or when I disagree with him,

00:45:47.200 or when you guys think that I'm being unfair,

00:45:49.080 which is I never want to be unfair to Donald Trump,

00:45:51.280 but I have my criticisms.

00:45:52.560 So you can't call me some kind of MAGA sycophant cultist.

00:45:57.140 That just ain't me.

00:45:58.440 If that makes you feel better,

00:45:59.660 then sure, that's what you can tell yourself.

00:46:01.540 But that's not me.

00:46:02.400 I've been much more even-handed when it comes to my criticism of Biden and Trump

00:46:06.540 than Russell Moore has,

00:46:08.100 at least according to what we see here on Twitter.

00:46:10.780 She went through every single time Russell Moore has tweeted about Joe Biden.

00:46:16.200 And here are some of the things that he said.

00:46:18.020 I'm not saying I disagree with all of these things,

00:46:20.040 but I'm saying the criticisms just don't exist,

00:46:22.860 at least when it comes to publicly here.

00:46:24.860 And yet he said a lot about Donald Trump on X.

00:46:28.340 So Russell Moore said,

00:46:29.500 Christians, let's pray for President-elect Joe Biden.

00:46:32.400 That was November 7th, 2020.

00:46:34.980 Of course, I agree with that.

00:46:36.520 Let's pray for Joe Biden.

00:46:38.360 He says, politics aside,

00:46:39.420 Vice President Biden is an exemplary father who has seen very hard times.

00:46:43.060 Let's all pray for him tonight.

00:46:44.300 I don't know that I would agree that Biden is an exemplary father.

00:46:48.280 I mean, Ashley Biden, this is verified, by the way.

00:46:51.980 Ashley Biden's diary was released where she notes that she had inappropriate showers with her father

00:47:00.000 late enough in her life where she could remember them and realize that they were not okay.

00:47:05.920 Is that the decency?

00:47:07.420 Is that the decency that you're talking about?

00:47:10.380 Is that the example of being an exemplary father that Biden has shown us, has offered to us?

00:47:19.600 Some of you have asked me, like, why isn't that a bigger story?

00:47:22.820 When I posted about that on Instagram, I had sent messages being like,

00:47:26.080 wait, I haven't even heard of this.

00:47:27.720 Is that real?

00:47:28.300 I thought that was just a conspiracy theory.

00:47:30.040 No, even Snopes said that that's real.

00:47:32.960 That, of course, is real.

00:47:34.120 It's not a big story because the media doesn't want it to be a big story.

00:47:36.920 Because when we talk about decency, we just have to talk about all of Trump's impropriety,

00:47:41.700 which is real.

00:47:42.520 But we can't talk about Biden's or Obama's.

00:47:45.400 Like, I have heard conservative Christian evangelicals over the past few years say,

00:47:50.080 yeah, you know, I don't agree with everything that Biden or Obama did, but they're great men.

00:47:55.640 They're great men.

00:47:56.700 And Trump is just not.

00:47:57.580 Are you freaking kidding me? 0.94

00:47:59.100 How can you support the unfettered slaughter of unborn children to be a great man? 0.97

00:48:04.020 Really?

00:48:04.320 I mean, it's just so delusional.

00:48:07.400 Russell Moore has said, really sorry to hear about the death of Bill Biden.

00:48:10.520 My prayers go to Vice President Biden and his family.

00:48:12.540 Again, nothing wrong with saying that.

00:48:14.840 What Joe Biden and Paul Ryan can teach us about fatherhood.

00:48:17.940 Again, that's weird.

00:48:19.880 Say what you will about Joe Biden.

00:48:21.100 He would not be this boring at a hashtag Dem debate.

00:48:24.740 That was 2015 and 2021.

00:48:27.620 He wrote an article for the Gospel Coalition, how we can pray for Joe Biden.

00:48:31.280 He, again, expresses sympathy for Joe Biden in 2015.

00:48:37.800 In 2015, he also said he disagrees with Biden on many things, but he's a kind man who loves

00:48:42.720 his family and his country.

00:48:45.940 He goes on and on about saying positive things about Joe Biden.

00:48:49.300 Once again, I am not saying that it is wrong to pray for Joe Biden or express sympathy for

00:48:54.820 Joe Biden.

00:48:55.400 As Christians, we have to be praying for all of our leaders, right or left.

00:48:58.900 That is something that we are called to do.

00:49:01.100 The point is the lopsidedness.

00:49:04.060 The point is that it's disproportional.

00:49:07.540 The point is that he is not impartial.

00:49:10.100 The point is that he has either neutral or positive things to say about Joe Biden and

00:49:14.420 almost exclusively negative things, if not entirely exclusively negative things about

00:49:19.360 Donald Trump.

00:49:20.520 That's the problem here, is that if you are not impartial, then you are not representing

00:49:27.980 biblical Christianity.

00:49:30.140 You're not representing biblical justice, and that's a problem.

00:49:32.980 Now, I'm not saying that you have to have the same number of criticisms about both sides,

00:49:36.780 because I'm not a moral relativist.

00:49:38.460 Democrats are worse than Republicans. 0.55

00:49:39.960 The left is worse than the right. 0.94

00:49:41.520 Now, neither of them are fully godly.

00:49:43.340 Neither of them are perfectly in line with biblical Christianity.

00:49:46.500 I wish that the right were more conservative.

00:49:48.080 I wish that the right, that Republicans were more conservative.

00:49:51.300 I wish they were more in line with biblical principles.

00:49:55.440 Absolutely.

00:49:55.860 I wish they were stronger.

00:49:56.680 I wish they were more courageous about those things, 1000%.

00:49:59.840 But when you're talking about which side prefers baby murder more, which side is trying to

00:50:09.060 chop up the bodies of children either through abortion or through gender, quote unquote, transition, 0.92

00:50:14.820 when you're talking about which side supports wholeheartedly and ardently more passionately

00:50:23.820 degeneracy, sexual degeneracy, the absolute obliteration of the family and the obliteration of national

00:50:33.900 sovereignty, then, of course, it's Democrats.

00:50:36.740 And it's not even close.

00:50:38.260 We don't have to pretend that both sides are equally bad or that both sides are equally

00:50:43.120 good.

00:50:43.620 That's not what I'm saying.

00:50:44.720 That's not what it means to be impartial.

00:50:46.840 Actually, we should look at every issue and we should care about every issue and try to

00:50:51.300 approach every issue from a biblical perspective.

00:50:55.260 Of course, that's what we should do.

00:50:56.480 I'm not saying that we should have even criticism of both sides, but we should be truthful, right?

00:51:02.960 We should look at each person and look at each issue as they come and try to see all of it

00:51:10.220 from a biblical perspective as best as we can.

00:51:13.540 And that means, yes, we are going to have criticisms of all politicians and all sides.

00:51:19.380 Yes, that's true.

00:51:20.360 But that's not true of Russell Moore.

00:51:21.920 He clearly leans left.

00:51:23.480 He does.

00:51:24.740 He clearly leans left. 0.85

00:51:26.340 And he thinks that the right and Donald Trump is more of a threat than the absolute degenerate 0.97

00:51:32.940 baby murdering side of the aisle. 1.00

00:51:35.580 That's just where he stands on it.

00:51:37.600 OK, so we're going to be seeing a lot of that, by the way, in the coming months when

00:51:44.820 it comes to evangelicals.

00:51:46.340 You're going to see a lot of evangelicals, as they have for the past several years, say,

00:51:50.660 oh, yeah, you know, abortion is kind of bad.

00:51:52.620 And yeah, a gender ideology wreaking havoc on our kids. 1.00

00:51:56.660 That's kind of bad.

00:51:57.400 Yeah, the redefinition of marriage.

00:51:59.380 Sure.

00:52:00.880 I guess that's kind of bad, but they'll see that as a lost battle.

00:52:04.280 But Trump, Trump is the real threat.

00:52:06.460 He's the real threat to democracy.

00:52:08.080 He's the real threat to freedom.

00:52:09.480 He's a real threat to morality.

00:52:10.980 He's the real threat to the church.

00:52:12.720 It's absolutely delusional.

00:52:14.820 It's just delusional.

00:52:15.860 It is.

00:52:16.180 You don't have to like the guy.

00:52:17.060 I don't care.

00:52:17.860 I really don't care if you like him.

00:52:19.480 I don't care if you agree with him.

00:52:20.840 I don't care if you support him.

00:52:21.860 I don't even care if you vote for him.

00:52:23.820 I really don't.

00:52:25.340 But to see him as some kind of unique threat in all these different areas, it's just wrong.

00:52:30.080 It's just wrong.

00:52:31.840 It's not factually true.

00:52:33.200 It's not morally true.

00:52:34.940 Now, on the other side of it, we've got people who are comparing Donald Trump's conviction to Jesus Christ, y'all.

00:52:42.500 Okay, so, as always, I've got some criticism for people on the right who I think right now are being kind of equally delusional, saying that Donald Trump is like Jesus and that he was also, Jesus was also convicted of a crime that he was not guilty of.

00:53:01.240 Now, let me, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:53:04.200 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:53:05.780 Trump is guilty of something here, at least morally. 0.97

00:53:09.500 Like, we are talking about the fact that he paid a prostitute hush money.

00:53:16.060 And we don't know if it was in service to winning the election, but we know that that was something that he did.

00:53:24.500 So we know that there is immorality here, right?

00:53:27.600 Like, we know that there is imperfection.

00:53:29.520 We know that there are sins here.

00:53:31.020 Doesn't mean that he should have been convicted.

00:53:33.220 Doesn't mean that he should go to jail, not under these laws and charges.

00:53:37.260 But Jesus was perfect, okay?

00:53:42.160 He literally did not commit any crimes.

00:53:45.180 He did not commit any sin.

00:53:47.280 He went to the cross to bear our sins.

00:53:49.620 There is no comparison here.

00:53:51.860 Why?

00:53:52.160 Why?

00:53:52.740 Why do we do this?

00:53:53.820 Why can't we just say that it is, it was wrong for him to be convicted in this way?

00:54:01.740 Why can't we just say that?

00:54:02.900 Why do we have to compare him to Jesus?

00:54:04.640 Here's the meme that's going around.

00:54:06.140 If you're not sure that you can vote for a convicted criminal, remember, you worship one.

00:54:11.520 Bleh! 1.00

00:54:12.480 Hate that.

00:54:13.180 I hate it so much.

00:54:14.800 And it's a picture of Donald Trump's mugshot and Jesus Christ hanging on the cross.

00:54:19.960 I think that is so blasphemous and so sacrilegious.

00:54:23.560 You don't have to compare Trump to Jesus Christ to say that this was wrong.

00:54:28.140 It's just not, it's just not necessary, nor is it true.

00:54:34.660 Also, Jesus wasn't a convicted felon.

00:54:38.720 Pilate literally said, he's not guilty.

00:54:41.740 I'm washing my hands of this.

00:54:43.240 He just, he just gave the mob what it, what it wanted.

00:54:47.280 Now, like you can compare, you can compare the injustice of like mob justice and the partiality

00:54:55.540 that played out in Jesus's story to the kind of mob mentality and mob so-called justice that

00:55:04.020 the left likes.

00:55:04.900 We've seen that in a lot of different ways.

00:55:06.340 You can make that comparison, absolutely, without saying that Trump is similar to Jesus in any

00:55:16.120 way.

00:55:16.820 Oh my goodness.

00:55:18.660 It's just not necessary to make that comparison.

00:55:21.840 Let's not be Looney Tunes.

00:55:23.680 Like, is it possible that we just allow the left to be the crazy ones?

00:55:27.160 I don't know. 0.96

00:55:28.020 Can we just allow them to embarrass themselves?

00:55:30.420 Can we just allow them to be the unhinged ones? 0.67

00:55:32.660 We do not also have to be unhinged.

00:55:35.440 We do not.

00:55:36.660 There is like, you can just like sit back.

00:55:38.680 That's one of, that is one tactic.

00:55:41.140 If you're in a debate with someone, when they start backtracking and when they start saying

00:55:47.280 things that are just insane, when they start trying to like make weird connections that

00:55:52.000 don't go together, you don't interrupt.

00:55:54.440 You don't stop them.

00:55:55.580 You never stop your opponent when they're making a mistake.

00:55:58.100 You just sit back and you let it happen.

00:55:59.700 That is, by the way, what Biden is trying to do with Trump during this campaign.

00:56:05.640 So this is where we are.

00:56:07.340 It's not a good place as a country.

00:56:09.880 It has helped Trump, as I said, in his campaign.

00:56:13.860 People have donated hundreds of thousands of dollars, amounting to tens of millions of

00:56:17.960 dollars in donations.

00:56:22.400 Unfortunately, we've got, for example, we've got many entities that are supposed to be neutral

00:56:27.620 celebrating this.

00:56:30.660 Encyclopedia Britannica said, yes, we've already updated his bio.

00:56:35.000 This post on X went viral.

00:56:37.280 Of course, it's tongue in cheek saying, yay, he's a convicted felon.

00:56:40.800 I mean, this is very 1984.

00:56:42.820 The arbiters of our, the purveyors of our information, in some ways, the arbiters of truth are incredibly

00:56:48.060 biased against a former president.

00:56:52.200 Tucker Carlson said this, import the third world, become the third world.

00:56:55.160 That's what we just saw.

00:56:56.260 This won't stop Trump.

00:56:57.180 He'll win the election and he's, if he's not killed first, but it does mark the end of the

00:57:01.200 fairest justice system in the world.

00:57:02.840 Anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family.

00:57:07.660 Wow.

00:57:09.180 Anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family.

00:57:12.500 I think that he's got a point there, actually.

00:57:15.100 I really do.

00:57:16.120 Because they support finding a man or getting the man and finding a crime that he is guilty

00:57:24.960 of, no matter how they have to contort the law.

00:57:27.820 And if they'll do that to President Trump, they'll do that for you, too.

00:57:30.700 That is part of what happened in 1984.

00:57:33.900 That's even part of Brave New World.

00:57:36.600 In any kind of dystopian novel, you see this kind of snitching.

00:57:41.440 Even children on their parents, you see in 1984, if they weren't respecting the laws of

00:57:48.780 Big Brother, respecting the order of Big Brother, even if they committed a thought crime, then

00:57:54.200 their children, their family members, their friends would tell on them.

00:57:57.640 They got points for doing that.

00:58:01.780 And it will be like this today.

00:58:04.500 The more applauded you are for trying to find crimes that someone is guilty of, that the

00:58:11.180 regime says are crimes, the more likely this will be.

00:58:18.080 And so fair people, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, will see that this is

00:58:21.940 wrong, see that this is leading to a bad place.

00:58:24.840 What will happen if Trump takes office, by the way, and decides he wants to exact vengeance?

00:58:28.640 And I don't really want that because there are bigger fish to fry.

00:58:34.340 Like there are more things that need to be done.

00:58:36.640 I don't know if I'll say bigger fish to fry, but there are other things that need to be

00:58:39.980 done that I would love a Republican president to focus on.

00:58:42.880 And yet this is now the main thing, the weaponization of the justice system against tens of millions

00:58:48.920 of people.

00:58:50.020 That's a really big thing that Trump is going to have to tackle.

00:58:52.560 Democrats are not going to like the results.

00:58:54.140 They are trying to create a fascist regime, which is really ugly, something that I certainly

00:59:01.800 don't want.

00:59:03.460 And I don't know if they realize that that's what they're creating or they're trying to

00:59:08.880 create, but it's going to be really ugly.

00:59:12.040 It's really ugly.

00:59:12.960 And Democrats have no one but themselves to blame for that.

00:59:24.140 All right.

00:59:28.600 So I had a whole other subject that I wanted to talk about today.

00:59:31.720 I was like, I'm going to do this so concisely.

00:59:33.880 I'm going to do this so quickly.

00:59:34.860 But guys, there's just so much.

00:59:36.400 There's so much.

00:59:37.160 And we hadn't really talked about it.

00:59:38.780 And we still didn't get into everything that we could have when it comes to this.

00:59:42.840 And so I hope even if you've been following this for a long time, that it offered some clarity

00:59:46.880 for you.

00:59:47.800 We'll get into the Miss Rachel stuff tomorrow.

00:59:50.860 That's something I wanted to talk about and some of the other pride things.

00:59:56.320 We'll talk about all of that tomorrow and my response to a few things there.

01:00:00.600 But I just had to make sure that we covered all of this.

01:00:03.500 And again, we'll get back into it and answer some more questions that you've got about it.

01:00:09.520 But share this with any friends that are confused about what's going on.

01:00:13.540 I hope that it's helpful to them.

01:00:16.920 Also, just a couple of things.

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01:01:05.380 I would absolutely love to see you there.

01:01:08.720 Also, one last thing.

01:01:09.760 I did a debate on the Ellen Fisher podcast about a gender transition, so-called, and I debated

01:01:16.440 a quote-unquote non-binary teacher.

01:01:18.820 You guys have really enjoyed that over the past few days.

01:01:21.620 We can link it in the description of this episode.

01:01:23.820 If you need talking points, if you need strategies, if you need ways to talk about this subject,

01:01:32.160 this was a very peaceful and productive debate.

01:01:35.440 I think that you'll hopefully learn a lot from it, and that'll be helpful for you as

01:01:39.220 you engage on this very sensitive and controversial topic.

01:01:42.540 All right.

01:01:42.980 That's all we've got time for today.

01:01:44.200 We will see you back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 03, 2024

Ep 1012 ｜ Trump Verdict： Everything You Need to Know

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