Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1024 ｜ First Presidential Debate, 10 Commandments in Schools

00:00:00.000 The first presidential debate is happening this Thursday night between Biden and Trump.

00:00:06.900 RFK Jr. will not be there.

00:00:09.080 We'll talk about why and what we can expect in that debate.

00:00:12.640 Also, Louisiana is now requiring the Ten Commandments to be posted on the walls of every public school classroom, and the libs are freaking out about it.

00:00:22.900 What should we think about this as Christians and conservatives?

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00:00:44.060 Hey, guys.

00:00:44.900 Welcome to Relatable.

00:00:46.400 Happy Monday.

00:00:47.420 Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend.

00:00:49.620 All right.

00:00:50.000 I don't know if you know this or not.

00:00:52.600 I woke up to this reality this morning that it is the end of June.

00:00:56.420 It's the last week of June.

00:00:58.820 Can you even wrap your mind around how fast this month went or how fast this year has gone?

00:01:06.940 Is it just me that feels this way?

00:01:09.320 Now, I've mentioned this in passing before, but the concept of time has become very strange to me over the past few years.

00:01:21.240 I think it's probably for a number of reasons.

00:01:23.900 One, COVID, I think, has done this to people.

00:01:27.060 In my mind, it's still 2019.

00:01:29.880 When I think about the fact that 2017 was seven years ago, 2018 was six years ago, 2019 was five years ago, because that's how math works, it just blows my mind.

00:01:43.400 Time seems simultaneously extremely stretched out and very condensed at the same time.

00:01:52.440 And I think that motherhood also is the other factor at play here.

00:01:56.780 I think about time in relation to my pregnancies and births and postpartum periods.

00:02:03.600 And it's just, I don't know, it's just strange to me.

00:02:07.320 So we're at the end of June and the year of our Lord 2024, which I don't know if you knew that or knew it or not, but it is an election year.

00:02:17.420 We are already at the 2024 election.

00:02:21.560 And you might be feeling a bit of deja vu because it is, in fact, between Joe Robinette Biden.

00:02:30.420 Is that his middle name?

00:02:31.720 Robin?

00:02:32.160 I think it's Robinette or Robin.

00:02:35.480 And Donald John Trump.

00:02:38.560 Not Jonathan Trump, Donald John Trump.

00:02:41.220 These are our two candidates, and they are headed toward their first debate.

00:02:46.620 I cannot believe that we are already here talking about the debate between Donald J. Trump and Joseph R. Biden.

00:02:53.980 But it is happening this Thursday in Atlanta, Georgia.

00:02:57.960 It's hosted by CNN.

00:02:59.920 Of course, CNN is headquartered there in Atlanta.

00:03:04.040 And this is how CNN is describing this debate.

00:03:07.860 Biden and Trump are set to make history on June 27th in the first presidential debate between an incumbent and a former president.

00:03:17.240 It will also be the first debate since 2020 featuring either Biden, who did not face a serious challenge for the Democratic nomination,

00:03:24.480 or Trump, who skipped those held during the Republican primary race.

00:03:29.980 Remember that?

00:03:30.880 That also seems like forever ago.

00:03:33.000 The Republican primary debates, I almost feel like they didn't even happen.

00:03:36.260 CNN's Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will host the 90-minute showdown in Atlanta.

00:03:41.980 Both candidates have accepted the network's invitation and agreed to accept the rules and format of the debate as outlined in letters sent to the campaigns by the network in May.

00:03:54.020 Just a little fun factoid that really has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

00:03:58.380 I think I've spoken of this before, though.

00:04:00.340 So in 2018, which again feels like last year, but simultaneously this feels like a lifetime ago, I filmed a pilot for CNN.

00:04:09.720 Isn't that crazy?

00:04:10.820 That's so crazy.

00:04:11.960 Like in April of 2018, I was asked to be one of the conservative co-hosts in a kind of like The View type format shows that I think was going to be a weekend show on CNN.

00:04:24.700 And it was me, April Ryan, remember April Ryan, Anna, what's her name that's on The View all the time, the liberal, Anna Navarro, and then Mary Catherine Hamm.

00:04:40.020 She and I were the conservatives.

00:04:41.520 And Alyssa Mastromonaco, who used to work for President Obama.

00:04:50.540 So that would have been interesting.

00:04:51.900 So I have met Dana Bash very briefly.

00:04:55.200 That show did not get picked up.

00:04:56.860 What if I got a call one of these days and was like, hey, we saw the tape from 2018.

00:05:01.840 Do you want to do you want to try this?

00:05:04.180 Should we make this into a show?

00:05:05.820 Should I take the opportunity?

00:05:07.460 Just kidding.

00:05:08.100 I think that the time has passed.

00:05:09.660 Anyway, so Dana Bash, she is helping moderate this debate along with Jake Tapper.

00:05:16.280 The debate will include, according to CNN, two commercial breaks, according to the network.

00:05:21.600 Sorry, that's what the CNN article says.

00:05:24.140 And campaign staff may not interact with their candidate during that time.

00:05:28.540 The candidates agreed to appear at a uniform podium.

00:05:31.580 Microphones will be muted throughout the debate, except for the candidate whose turn it is to speak.

00:05:36.760 I actually think that that is going to be really great and beneficial for both candidates.

00:05:44.020 While no props or pre-written notes will be allowed on stage.

00:05:47.980 No pre-written notes will be allowed on stage.

00:05:50.660 Do you think Biden's going to be able to do that?

00:05:53.160 Candidates will be given a pen, a pad of paper and a bottle of water.

00:05:58.900 While Trump talked about this debate that's coming up over the weekend, here's thought one.

00:06:06.680 Oh, he didn't.

00:06:07.360 He's sleeping now.

00:06:10.800 Because they want to get him good and strong. 0.99

00:06:12.880 So a little before debate time, he gets a shot in the ass and that's, they want to strengthen him up. 0.99

00:06:22.560 So he comes out, he'll come out. 0.99

00:06:25.440 Okay.

00:06:26.700 I say he'll come out all jacked up, right?

00:06:29.520 All jacked up.

00:06:30.680 Uh, you know, vulgarity aside, I agree with Trump that they are going to have to give Biden some kind of upper cocktail in order to make it through this debate.

00:06:45.700 Not trying to be rude.

00:06:46.940 I think that we've seen enough at this point that if Biden is, if he actually is all there cognitively, if he can put together a coherent thought, it is some kind of strange strategy that they have in place that they are hiding all of those cogent, coherent moments for when the cameras are off. 0.98

00:07:07.420 He is presenting himself like a doddering fool almost every chance that he gets. 0.92

00:07:16.720 And I just don't think at this point he is able to hold his own in a debate. 0.99

00:07:22.420 I really don't.

00:07:23.340 Now, you'll remember in the last campaign or in the last election cycle, that awful debate between Trump and Biden, where Biden, even four years ago, he really couldn't hold his own.

00:07:36.920 He was stuttering a lot.

00:07:38.940 He was having a hard time making his points.

00:07:41.540 I think it's even going to be worse now.

00:07:43.900 And yet he still won the debate because Trump couldn't help himself but interrupt and speak over him and really come across like a bully.

00:07:53.760 Now, Trump may have been right in everything that he said, but you ended up having pity, sympathy for Biden and really being frustrated with Trump and how he was conducting himself.

00:08:09.140 So Trump needs to be self-controlled.

00:08:13.440 That should be the name of the game.

00:08:15.920 He should be confident.

00:08:18.120 He can be forthright.

00:08:20.700 He can be concise.

00:08:23.240 He can get to the point and say exactly what he means.

00:08:26.440 I think those are things that people love about Trump when he is on in that way.

00:08:31.380 And I also think it would not hurt him at all, at all, to be polite and deferential with Biden.

00:08:38.640 I'm not saying that Biden's policies and the kind of leader that he has been deserves our respect because I don't think that he has earned that.

00:08:51.480 However, just from a PR standpoint, from an image standpoint, I think that that would help Trump.

00:08:58.500 It could help some people who are on the fence.

00:09:02.820 And believe it or not, there are people who are on the fence who really have kind of zoned out.

00:09:08.540 They haven't been paying attention to politics for a while.

00:09:10.540 They might not even know everything that's happened with Trump in court.

00:09:14.480 But they are watching this debate and they are seeing how the two candidates come across.

00:09:19.680 This is also going to be a competition of whose mind works better.

00:09:24.900 Like, who do we trust more to be competent?

00:09:28.500 To be able to think clearly, speak clearly.

00:09:32.040 Who has it together?

00:09:34.060 Who can we trust to lead us into metaphorically battle?

00:09:38.620 And unfortunately, it could be literal just considering the state of the world and the role of the president.

00:09:45.540 And it is up to Trump to show that he is the mature one.

00:09:49.720 He's the trustworthy one.

00:09:51.240 He's the self-controlled one.

00:09:52.840 He is the confident and competent one.

00:09:55.500 This is a great opportunity for him to show that.

00:09:59.900 And just allow Joe Biden.

00:10:01.520 This is what I think the mistake that he made in that debate where he just kept on trying to bully Biden. 0.97

00:10:07.200 Let let Joe Biden make a fool of himself. 0.96

00:10:11.880 Don't stop him. 0.99

00:10:12.900 I mean, I know that Trump's mic will be cut off when he's not speaking, but don't stop him from making a fool of himself. 0.96

00:10:19.780 If he's stuttering and he has a hard time and he has a hard time articulating what he means, let him continue to stumble and stutter. 0.97

00:10:30.400 Let the world see that.

00:10:32.240 Don't save him from that by interjecting or interrupting.

00:10:35.640 You don't even have to point it out.

00:10:38.320 Just let it speak for itself.

00:10:40.180 That would be my advice.

00:10:42.440 Take that for what it's worth.

00:10:44.300 Let Biden's state of mind speak for itself.

00:10:47.540 I don't think Trump needs to highlight it.

00:10:49.420 I don't think he needs to say anything about it at all.

00:10:51.900 People will see it.

00:10:52.840 Just pause and take a look at him.

00:10:55.620 Give him like a very concerned, sympathetic look.

00:10:58.640 And let that be it.

00:11:01.160 No need to bully.

00:11:02.660 That would be my piece of advice.

00:11:05.440 Well, Trump's press secretary was doing an interview this weekend with CNN ahead of the debate to talk about the debate.

00:11:14.140 That interview did not go well.

00:11:17.800 Actually stunning what the CNN host decided to do.

00:11:28.640 So Trump's campaign press secretary, her name is Caroline Leavitt, was doing a live interview with CNN's Casey Hunt.

00:11:41.160 Hunt cut her off when Leavitt tried to point out that the debate's moderator, one of them, Jake Tapper, has maligned Trump for years, even comparing him to Hitler.

00:11:52.960 And her point was, presumably, that he's probably not going to be that objective.

00:12:00.200 So here's that exchange on SOT2.

00:12:02.040 Well, first of all, it's to take someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump, to see that Jake Tapper has consistently.

00:12:09.280 Ma'am, we're going to stop this interview if you're going to keep attacking my colleagues. 0.67

00:12:11.560 Ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview if you continue to attack my colleagues.

00:12:16.620 I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for.

00:12:20.240 If you are here to speak on his behalf, I am willing to have this conversation.

00:12:25.180 I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past.

00:12:28.240 Now, I'm sorry, guys, we're going to come back out to the panel.

00:12:30.500 Caroline, thank you very much for your time.

00:12:32.440 You are welcome to come back.

00:12:34.840 Casey Hunt, you seem hysterical.

00:12:37.780 I'm sorry, you do.

00:12:39.160 You seem hysterical in that clip.

00:12:42.140 Unable to be professional, unable to keep your cool.

00:12:45.700 You asked his press secretary to come on and talk about the debate that CNN is hosting, that Jake Tapper is moderating.

00:12:53.860 So she was supposed to talk about a debate without mentioning something that she thought was pertinent, which is the clear bias of one of the moderators.

00:13:04.300 How is that not relevant to the conversation?

00:13:06.560 How is that not a fair point to make?

00:13:09.260 It's not like Jake Tapper was just catching strays in this conversation and that he wasn't a part of it at all.

00:13:14.420 He is the moderator.

00:13:16.120 It makes total sense for Caroline to bring this up.

00:13:20.160 But Casey was not having it.

00:13:22.220 She said on Twitter, you come on my show, you respect my colleagues, period.

00:13:27.840 I don't care what side of the aisle you stand on, as my track record clearly shows.

00:13:31.880 And by the way, this was not an attack.

00:13:35.540 I didn't hear an attack.

00:13:37.020 I didn't hear any ad hominem there.

00:13:39.380 She just said, look, Jake Tapper has maligned the president.

00:13:43.220 He's probably not going to be that objective.

00:13:47.140 And maybe part of that is her opinion.

00:13:49.660 Even so, that's not an attack.

00:13:52.940 It is true what Jake Tapper has said about Donald Trump, that it has been negative.

00:13:58.260 And I'll get to that in a second.

00:13:59.860 Caroline responded to what Casey said and said, you cut off my microphone for bringing up the debate moderator's history of anti-Trump lies. 0.98

00:14:07.280 This proved our point that President Trump will not be treated fairly on Thursday, yet he is still willing to go into this three to one fight.

00:14:14.280 What she means by that is it's going to be Biden, bash and tapper against Trump to bring his winning message to the American people.

00:14:20.940 And he will win.

00:14:23.000 And I think that's absolutely right that this is a three to one fight.

00:14:26.380 I don't think Trump is one to back down from a fight.

00:14:29.120 And so he just has to go in completely assured and confident in that.

00:14:34.200 And just to prove her point, let's go through at least a couple of the comments that Jake Tapper has made about Trump over the years.

00:14:41.340 It's not that I expect every journalist to love Donald Trump, but we should expect or we shouldn't expect, maybe at this point, hope for some kind of objectivity, right?

00:14:54.940 Unless you are just a commentator.

00:14:56.920 If you're a podcast host like me, I'm not pretending that I don't have an opinion.

00:15:02.240 I am not pretending like I don't have a belief system.

00:15:05.060 I am openly sharing my belief system with you and what point I'm coming from.

00:15:09.640 However, someone like Jake Tapper, who claims to be a journalist, they are supposed to be at least out front unbiased.

00:15:18.240 Fox News put together some of Tapper's sharpest criticism against Trump over the years.

00:15:23.960 This was from 2020 when Joe Biden won.

00:15:27.040 Tapper declared for tens of millions of our fellow Americans, their long national nightmare is over.

00:15:33.340 It's been a time of extreme divisions.

00:15:34.960 Many of the divisions caused and exacerbated by President Trump himself.

00:15:39.980 It has been a time where truth and fact were treated with disdain.

00:15:45.320 Yes, it is.

00:15:46.320 It's Republicans and Donald Trump and conservatives who are treating with disdain truth and fact, says the side that believes that men can get pregnant.

00:15:57.820 It was a time of cruelty, he says, where official inhumanity, such as child separation, became the official shameful policy of the United States.

00:16:08.400 But now the Trump presidency is coming to an end.

00:16:12.960 I don't watch CNN.

00:16:14.420 I don't watch Jake Tapper.

00:16:16.400 Has Jake Tapper had anything to say about the continued child separation since Biden took office?

00:16:22.560 Has he had anything to say about how his domestic and foreign policy has been egregious when it comes to human rights?

00:16:32.200 Has he had anything to say about the violence and the horror Joe Biden's open border policies have caused?

00:16:40.800 I'm curious about that.

00:16:42.300 If he has, then I'm glad that he at least will call out both sides.

00:16:46.600 I just haven't seen it.

00:16:47.600 I think I probably would have seen that circulating on X.

00:16:50.300 Last December, he said this with four weeks until Ohioans cast the nation's first votes in the 2024 presidential race.

00:16:58.640 The dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf Hitler is once again alive and well on the national political stage.

00:17:06.200 The audacity of Jake Tapper, who I know is a defender of Israel and has seen what is happening to the Jewish people right now.

00:17:16.020 The audacity of Tapper to call such a pro-Israel president, Adolf Hitler, is really something.

00:17:25.940 But he says the rhetoric of Adolf Hitler is once again alive and well on the national political stage, this time, of course, in the U.S., this time given life by former president and current Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump,

00:17:37.160 whose thoughts on immigrants were made shockingly crystal clear over the weekend, that's the same thing he says as Hitler. 0.51

00:17:45.940 This is the person who is moderating the first presidential debate.

00:17:49.700 I think it was completely understandable for Caroline Leavitt to bring up this bias in her conversation with Casey Hunt on CNN.

00:17:59.120 And yet CNN cut her mic off.

00:18:00.700 And that, to me, just shows what this Thursday is going to be like.

00:18:05.700 I am going to be I am not going to be able to give live commentary on Thursday.

00:18:11.040 I will give commentary as quickly as I possibly can.

00:18:15.960 I will try to tune into this and give you my insight as much as much as possible.

00:18:23.560 But we should all be tuning into this.

00:18:25.240 I know a lot of us have tried to unplug from politics or at least not just be addicted to the news cycle that changes every 24 minutes.

00:18:34.060 But now's the time.

00:18:35.620 We've got to open our eyes and open our ears.

00:18:38.440 It matters.

00:18:39.400 It matters.

00:18:40.060 This election matters.

00:18:42.000 Politics matter because policy matters because people matter.

00:18:46.420 Politics affects policy.

00:18:47.680 Policy affects people.

00:18:48.740 People matter to God.

00:18:50.040 Therefore, they matter to us.

00:18:51.980 And because politics and policy matters, that means that politicians matter.

00:18:56.060 The politicians that we put in place matters.

00:18:57.880 Are any of them perfect?

00:18:59.720 Absolutely not.

00:19:01.040 But the president makes a big difference.

00:19:03.680 Who he fills his administration with, the people that he surrounds himself with, the people who are advising him.

00:19:12.280 All of those things can greatly affect the direction of the country.

00:19:17.580 The direction of the country tends to affect the most vulnerable first and foremost.

00:19:24.260 You'll notice that there is one candidate who is not going to be on the debate stage.

00:19:29.340 And that is Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the independent candidate.

00:19:33.440 There's some controversy surrounding this.

00:19:35.740 According to Politico, the first presidential debate of 2024 breaks a long tradition of these events being coordinated by the Commission on Presidential Debate.

00:19:44.840 CNN's debate was scheduled without the Commission, and it is happening earlier than previous presidential debates.

00:19:51.300 But the cable network did borrow its three main qualifying criteria from the Commission.

00:19:56.140 Eligibility per the Constitution, 35 years old and a native-born citizen.

00:20:00.460 A polling requirement to reach at least 15% support in four surveys from respected pollsters.

00:20:07.460 And officially making the ballot in enough states to theoretically win 270 electoral college votes.

00:20:14.440 The deadline to qualify was June 20th at 12.01 a.m.

00:20:18.520 CNN says, well, Kennedy doesn't qualify according to the standards.

00:20:23.220 However, Kennedy claimed back in May that CNN chose these requirements to exclude him from the debate per Joe Biden's request.

00:20:32.220 This is what he says.

00:20:33.400 Sop 3.

00:20:33.880 We've heard this secondhand, but from first-hand sources who are on the call.

00:20:42.460 That President Biden told CNN, that President Biden's staff told CNN that under no conditions was I to be allowed on the stage.

00:20:53.360 And CNN told the President, don't worry, because we've made criteria for qualifying for the debate, which will make sure that Robert Kennedy cannot get on the stage.

00:21:12.000 Okay, that was back in May.

00:21:16.080 He also just recently said a couple days ago that actually Biden and Trump colluded to keep him off the debate stage.

00:21:24.840 This is Sop 4.

00:21:25.660 It appears that both President Trump and President Biden are afraid to debate me, and their campaigns are colluding with CNN to keep me off the debating stage.

00:21:37.200 The two other candidates don't agree on much, but they do agree about excluding me from that stage.

00:21:43.180 That's why the Washington Post reported on May 17th that, quote, Biden's advisers quickly let it be known that they had not agreed to any terms that could include Kennedy.

00:21:54.360 The Post also reported that, quote, one of the CNN producers on a Wednesday call with Trump aides had explained at the time that, quote, RFK Jr. will not be on the stage, end quote.

00:22:09.460 While I'm flattered to know that President Biden and President Trump are frightened by the prospect of debating me, shutting me out of that debate makes a mockery of democracy.

00:22:19.380 Hmm. He also points out this is about a four minute long video that I saw he posted on X, probably on Instagram, too.

00:22:27.040 So we couldn't play the whole thing.

00:22:28.280 But he says that actually Biden and Trump don't qualify, that they don't qualify to participate in the debate under CNN's rules that they lifted from the commission because the debate is happening before the Republican and Democratic conventions, which are in July and August, respectively.

00:22:44.540 So they are not technically the nominees yet.

00:22:48.200 That is one of the arguments that he makes.

00:22:51.540 This was published by CNN a couple of days ago, June 22nd.

00:22:55.380 As RFK Jr. pushes to gain ballot access in all 50 states, Democrats are ramping up their efforts to block the independent presidential candidate by filing legal challenges seeking to get his ballot petitions thrown out in several states.

00:23:09.080 The Democratic National Committee and Clear Choice PAC, a super PAC backing President Joe Biden that is focused on countering third party candidates, have objected to Kennedy's ballot access in four states last month.

00:23:21.260 Some of these challenges have been filed in key battleground states such as North Carolina and Nevada.

00:23:26.400 Each of the filings claims Kennedy violated state laws that stipulate how independent candidates assembled the paperwork needed to qualify for the state's ballot.

00:23:34.460 Kennedy says, no, that's not true.

00:23:36.120 So the challenges mark an escalation of a broader strategy launched by Democrats earlier this year to combat Kennedy's campaign in hopes of keeping the support of voters who backed Biden in 2020, but may consider Kennedy in November.

00:23:48.780 So obviously, he sees Kennedy as a real threat.

00:23:52.780 These challenges are important because they're part of a twofold strategy.

00:23:57.840 One is educating voters about RFK Jr., DNC spokesperson Matt Corradone said.

00:24:03.020 And the second part is making sure that everyone's playing by the rules.

00:24:08.960 But here's what Kennedy says.

00:24:11.060 The objections are frivolous.

00:24:12.480 In every case that we brought to court, we've won easily and we will continue to.

00:24:17.740 What they're hoping to do, though, is they're trying to tie him up in this litigation.

00:24:23.500 They're trying to keep him occupied with this.

00:24:25.820 And I think they're trying as much as they can to drain their funds, because as long as Kennedy is distracted by all of this and fighting tooth and nail to get on the ballot, then he is unable to the less he's able to reach Americans with his message.

00:24:44.040 Kennedy holds a uniquely significant amount of public support for a third party candidate and a Fox News National Poll of Registered Voters released Wednesday.

00:24:52.760 Kennedy received 10 percent outpacing both West and Stein, who earned two percent support each in that same poll.

00:25:00.520 Biden earned 43 percent support while Trump earned 42.

00:25:04.300 I mean, both Trump and Biden need all of the support that they can get.

00:25:08.340 That's why neither of them like Kennedy, because Kennedy is threatening to take the votes away from both candidates.

00:25:15.240 I'm not sure if it's more Democrats or Republicans.

00:25:19.000 There's probably some polling out there that tells us which side likes him more.

00:25:24.420 I once saw it more among Republicans.

00:25:27.860 I once saw him more as a threat to Donald Trump, taking away votes from people who did not like how Trump handled covid, thinking that he should have fired Fauci.

00:25:39.940 He shouldn't have pushed Operation Warp Speed.

00:25:43.080 But now that RFK is so outspokenly radical on things like abortion, it does seem to me that it would be more of a threat for Biden if he were to be on all these ballots and he would be and for him to be on the debate stage.

00:26:03.520 So we'll see what happens. Kennedy's campaign brought in, according to CNN, two point six million dollars last month, but spent six point three million more than double what it raised.

00:26:13.780 According to federal campaign finance records, the campaign paid approximately two point seven million dollars to one ballot access consulting firm.

00:26:22.080 Accelivate 2020 LLC legal battles with the DNC could put additional pressure on the Kennedy campaign's resources.

00:26:28.480 Of course, that's exactly what the Biden campaign are hoping for.

00:26:32.360 You'll also remember that Biden has refused to allow Kennedy to have Secret Service protection.

00:26:38.900 They really hate Kennedy.

00:26:40.500 They do not want him to have a voice.

00:26:42.140 They don't want him to have power.

00:26:43.660 I will say props to Meta for allowing Kennedy to stay on Instagram and to get his message out.

00:26:51.800 And also like props to Elon Musk and X.

00:26:55.060 He's still there.

00:26:56.040 I think that's important.

00:26:57.140 But clearly the people who fancy themselves the sentinels of democracy don't believe in the real democratic process.

00:27:04.920 And of course, that's what we always say is that to progressives, authoritarianism is democracy that they don't like.

00:27:14.300 Democracy is authoritarianism that they do like.

00:27:17.380 So it's really important that we define our terms, especially when they're using these universally positive words that people just accept without thinking.

00:27:25.720 Love, love, tolerance, empathy, justice, reproductive health, freedom, democracy.

00:27:32.100 The question is always, what do they mean by that?

00:27:35.360 You have to pay very close attention to how they're using these words and go beyond what they say and look at what they are doing.

00:27:43.580 So we'll be paying attention to this.

00:27:46.160 So we've got more to say in the realm of politics and policy in just a second.

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00:30:16.160 All right, let's move into our next topic for the day.

00:30:19.200 We talked about this very briefly last week, and I wanted to talk about it a little bit more

00:30:23.680 because it deserves more explanation and more of a response.

00:30:27.920 And this is the story of Louisiana, the state of Louisiana, requiring the Ten Commandments

00:30:35.580 to be displayed in public school classrooms.

00:30:39.520 Now, we have gotten to a point in American history that we have been so deluded by secular 0.98

00:30:47.120 humanism disguised as classical liberalism that we have come to flinch, I think, even as

00:30:57.140 conservative Christians when we hear a headline like that.

00:31:00.440 We start feeling a little queasy inside when we hear, oh, no, a state is requiring the Ten

00:31:09.000 Commandments to be displayed in classrooms.

00:31:11.580 What about the separation of church and state?

00:31:14.560 What about the First Amendment?

00:31:16.820 Oh, my goodness.

00:31:17.740 Would I want the Koran to be displayed? 0.98

00:31:20.040 Would I want a satanic symbol to be displayed in the classroom?

00:31:23.500 If I wouldn't want those things, then I shouldn't want the Ten Commandments.

00:31:27.240 And I'm here to tell you that that is, while understandable, a wrong way to think about this

00:31:34.300 story.

00:31:34.740 And so we have to flex our mental muscles, I think, a little bit more and dig past a lot

00:31:39.880 of the presuppositions that have been built up wrongly in our mind over the past 10 years

00:31:45.500 that really are products of progressivism, not true classical liberalism, although I think

00:31:51.120 much of classical liberalism leads to progressivism and not any kind of patriotic support of the

00:31:58.660 First Amendment.

00:32:00.120 So let me explain the story and then I'll get to my response to it in just a second.

00:32:05.220 So Louisiana is requiring the Ten Commandments to be displayed in public classrooms.

00:32:10.260 This is according to CBS.

00:32:12.340 It's the first state to do so.

00:32:14.300 This is legislation that Republican Governor Jeff Landry signed into law last Wednesday

00:32:19.040 that requires a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in large, easily readable font

00:32:25.220 in all public classrooms from kindergarten to state-funded universities.

00:32:29.740 The posters, which will be paired with a four-paragraph context statement describing how the Ten Commandments

00:32:34.720 were a prominent part of American public education for almost three centuries.

00:32:40.900 I'm very tongue-tied this morning.

00:32:42.600 I'm not sure why.

00:32:43.520 It's just because it's Monday, I guess.

00:32:45.680 I haven't spoken enough today, so just bear with me.

00:32:48.100 So it must be in place.

00:32:49.860 These must be in place in classrooms by the start of 2025.

00:32:54.400 I think that's also missing, the context missing from a lot of the reports and analysis that I've seen,

00:32:59.700 is that that context, which says how the Ten Commandments were a part of public education for a long time,

00:33:05.420 they're an important part of American history,

00:33:07.240 that that is all part of the reason why the Ten Commandments are going to be displayed.

00:33:11.960 Opponents of this law questioned the law's constitutionality and vowed to challenge it in court.

00:33:16.260 Proponents said the measure is not solely religious, but that it has historical significance, which is exactly true. 1.00

00:33:23.540 The law prevents students from getting an equal education.

00:33:26.140 This is what opponents say.

00:33:27.640 And will keep children who have different beliefs from feeling safe at school, says the ACLU.

00:33:32.220 The ACLU is extremely communist in nature, and it consistently is on the side of opposing constitutional rights,

00:33:42.560 if that means defending progressivism.

00:33:45.240 They are much closer to progressive ideologues than they are to constitutionalists.

00:33:50.000 Not in every single case.

00:33:51.520 Sometimes they surprise me, but for the most part.

00:33:54.040 Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the Freedom From Religion Foundation

00:33:59.700 joined this statement with the ACLU saying how harmful this is.

00:34:04.460 The law violates the separation of church and state and is blatantly unconstitutional.

00:34:08.940 Now, just a reminder, the separation of church and state is a principle,

00:34:13.540 a concept that is not found in the Constitution.

00:34:15.680 It's not found in the Declaration of Independence.

00:34:17.700 It is found in a letter.

00:34:20.120 That phrase is found in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to Danbury Baptist in 1802.

00:34:26.060 That doesn't mean that it's not important.

00:34:28.040 It is important, but it is a principle that was established,

00:34:33.580 that was acknowledged really more for the protection of the church,

00:34:37.780 so that the state would not prey upon the church more than the church praying upon the state.

00:34:43.480 It does go both ways.

00:34:45.760 Yes, of course, and some interpret the First Amendment

00:34:48.240 that we should not have a state-established religion as meaning the separation of church and state,

00:34:55.440 although those two things aren't exactly similar, although we agree with that.

00:34:59.920 Like, we don't believe in an establishment of a state religion.

00:35:04.440 We don't.

00:35:05.240 As much as people want to cast me as believing this,

00:35:08.240 we don't believe in a theocracy in which we are forced to worship,

00:35:15.660 forced to go to a certain church,

00:35:17.860 forced to believe certain things, say certain things, subscribe to certain creeds.

00:35:23.520 But the separation of church and state,

00:35:26.020 the First Amendment does not mean that we separate God and law or morality and law.

00:35:32.840 In fact, you cannot, you cannot separate those things.

00:35:37.160 And I have more to say on that,

00:35:38.500 but I just wanted to point out that the separation of church and state is not part of the Constitution.

00:35:45.720 It is a concept that progressives, I think, really misunderstand and maybe purposely misinterpret.

00:35:53.700 The State House of, the State Representative, State House Representative Dodie Horton is the author of the bill.

00:36:01.860 In April, she defended it before the House,

00:36:03.740 saying the Ten Commandments are the basis of all laws in Louisiana.

00:36:06.920 Under the law, state funds will not be used to implement the mandate.

00:36:10.160 The posters will be paid for through donations.

00:36:13.480 Okay, there you go.

00:36:14.640 It's not even taxpayer funded.

00:36:17.140 Here's part of the text.

00:36:18.500 Next, to provide for the display of the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence,

00:36:25.420 the Northwest Ordinance, and the Ten Commandments.

00:36:28.160 So all of those things.

00:36:29.440 It's not just the Ten Commandments.

00:36:31.040 It's all of those things that must be displayed in classrooms.

00:36:33.760 To provide for displays in each classroom.

00:36:35.820 To provide relative to the use of donations or the acceptance of donated displays for this purpose.

00:36:42.400 To provide for applicability.

00:36:44.420 To provide for legislative intent.

00:36:46.320 To provide for historical context.

00:36:48.280 To provide for an effective date.

00:36:50.100 And to provide for related matters.

00:36:52.220 There's a lot in this law that we are just not going to read.

00:36:57.080 We're trying to address in this law, they say,

00:36:59.680 a need to educate and inform the public as to the history and background of American and Louisiana law.

00:37:04.220 In 2019, the Supreme Court of the United States further recognized that the Ten Commandments

00:37:08.140 have historical significance as one of the foundations of our legal system.

00:37:12.740 Recognizing the historical role of the Ten Commandments accords with our nation's history

00:37:16.380 and faithfully reflects the understanding of the founders of our nation with respect to the necessity of civic morality

00:37:22.560 to a functional self-government.

00:37:25.920 History records that James Madison, the fourth president of the United States of America,

00:37:29.640 stated that we have staked the whole future of our new nation upon the capacity of each of ourselves

00:37:36.400 to govern ourselves according to the moral principles of the Ten Commandments.

00:37:42.120 This is very similar to that Ben Franklin quote when he says that our republic was built for a moral and religious people.

00:37:53.560 None other.

00:37:54.660 It can't stand with any other.

00:37:58.000 Sorry, that was John Adams.

00:37:59.240 John Adams said our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people as wholly inadequate for any other kind of people.

00:38:10.140 So this James Madison quote is very similar to that.

00:38:13.440 And you can see how far we've strayed.

00:38:15.180 And you can see as we become more godless, we also vie for more tyranny.

00:38:19.640 We replace the God of Scripture with the God of government. 0.92

00:38:23.540 Or you could say we replace the God of Scripture with the God of self.

00:38:27.340 And because the God of self is so unruly and so chaotic, we need a strong man to come in and tell us what to do and control our lives.

00:38:35.000 And so it just always leads that way.

00:38:37.780 It leads to sexual depravity. 0.97

00:38:39.440 It leads to sexual chaos. 0.97

00:38:41.020 And it leads to this slothful evil mentality of wanting the government to come in

00:38:47.200 and to control everything and take care of everything.

00:38:51.340 And so it was understood in the very beginning that the people of the United States needed to rest their morality on Christian principles,

00:39:01.320 on specifically the Ten Commandments,

00:39:03.520 and that our law giving in the United States is based at least in large part on the law giving of God to Israel.

00:39:13.880 And so that is the significance of having the Ten Commandments in our classrooms.

00:39:18.860 It's not a religious dictate necessarily.

00:39:22.680 I mean, it is, obviously.

00:39:24.440 We know that it is a dictate in the Bible.

00:39:27.660 However, that's not really the purpose of displaying it in these public schools.

00:39:32.980 It has historical significance.

00:39:34.880 And yes, moral significance too, of course.

00:39:37.460 Those things go hand in hand.

00:39:39.340 But you cannot understand American history.

00:39:43.420 You cannot understand the history of Western civilization without understanding the Bible,

00:39:49.440 without specifically understanding the Ten Commandments.

00:39:52.020 You cannot.

00:39:53.220 And that is, I think, part of why the left doesn't want it taught in schools,

00:39:57.020 because they do not want students to think that America is exceptional,

00:40:01.700 that it was based on really good, timeless, tested, and true values,

00:40:10.480 that it was Christianity that led the charge of abolition,

00:40:17.260 that it was Christianity that forged Western civilization,

00:40:22.160 that established the concept of human rights,

00:40:24.940 that completely upended the godless, pagan, cruel, human-sacrificing world, 1.00

00:40:32.040 and created every good thing that we have today. 0.92

00:40:36.720 Of course, because they are trying to teach kids to be sexually deviant, communist activists.

00:40:47.280 And so, of course, they don't want the Ten Commandments displayed.

00:40:52.220 They don't want our history taught.

00:40:54.300 They want Howard Zinn's People's History of the United States

00:40:58.040 that demonizes the free white male and casts everyone else as some kind of victim.

00:41:04.500 This creates a lot of angry activists.

00:41:06.560 They end up being foot soldiers for the Democratic Party and the progressive cause.

00:41:10.780 It all plays together.

00:41:12.180 It's really not about the First Amendment at all.

00:41:14.900 Because these same people who are so concerned about the First Amendment when it comes to this,

00:41:19.700 I mean, they would arrest you for misgendering a dude so fast

00:41:23.760 So, I'm sorry, I just don't believe that these people are solid constitutionalists.

00:41:29.160 And like I said, there is a solid legal precedent for having the Ten Commandments in these classrooms.

00:41:36.440 I think that this is a great move.

00:41:37.860 According to CBS, in 1980, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Stone v. Graham that a similar Kentucky law was unconstitutional

00:41:57.340 and violated the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

00:42:01.560 The Establishment Clause says the Congress can make no law respect in an establishment of religion.

00:42:06.360 The High Court found that the law had no secular purpose, but rather served a plainly religious purpose.

00:42:12.600 So, this is Stone v. Graham.

00:42:13.940 It says a Kentucky statute requiring the posting of a copy of the Ten Commandments purchased with private contributions

00:42:18.240 on the wall of each public classroom in the state has no secular legislative purpose

00:42:21.980 and therefore is unconstitutional as violating the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

00:42:29.100 There were also two cases in 2005 examining the constitutionality of displaying the Ten Commandments on public property.

00:42:35.100 They were actually decided on the same day.

00:42:38.960 And Van Orden v. Perry, Chief Justice William Rehnquist,

00:42:41.800 wrote that acknowledgements of the role played by the Ten Commandments in our nation's heritage are common throughout America.

00:42:47.240 We need only to look within our own courtroom.

00:42:49.840 Since 1935, Moses has stood holding two tablets that reveal portions of the Ten Commandments written in Hebrew

00:42:55.580 among the lawgivers in the South Frees.

00:43:00.040 Representations of the Ten Commandments adorn the metal gates lining the north and south sides of the courtroom

00:43:05.000 as well as the doors leading into the courtroom.

00:43:07.860 Moses also sits on the exterior east facade of the building holding the Ten Commandments tablets.

00:43:15.480 Similar acknowledgements can be seen throughout a visitor's tour of our nation's capital.

00:43:19.560 A large statue of Moses holding the Ten Commandments alongside a statue of the Apostle Paul

00:43:23.460 has overlooked the rotunda of the Library of Congress's Jefferson building since 1897.

00:43:30.260 This is all just overlooked by people who say that America was not established as a country with Christian principles.

00:43:39.180 It absolutely was.

00:43:40.580 And in fact, if you go look at some of the requirements for the leaders of states,

00:43:47.140 for the representatives of states way back in the beginning of the founding of the country,

00:43:52.700 you will see how necessary they saw Christianity to the survival of the Republic.

00:43:58.820 Does that mean that everyone had to worship the same way or think the same way or believe the same way or worship at all?

00:44:05.040 No, that's not what it means.

00:44:06.520 It is understanding where our laws come from, where our morality comes from.

00:44:12.300 It didn't just happen in a vacuum.

00:44:15.600 David French, of course, agrees that the Ten Commandments should not be displayed.

00:44:20.900 And by the way, I say those Supreme Court cases in order to make the point

00:44:27.140 that this is probably going to be a bit of an uphill climb.

00:44:30.620 You already know that there are challenges to this by the ACLU and others.

00:44:35.760 It may make its way to the Supreme Court again.

00:44:38.020 We'll see what happens.

00:44:39.200 But this is certainly going to continue to be challenged.

00:44:42.040 And then you've got David French writing from the quote-unquote conservative perspective for the New York Times saying,

00:44:47.500 thou shalt not post the Ten Commandments in the classroom.

00:44:51.760 He argues altering constitutional law is not the only motivation here.

00:44:56.020 A version of Christian mysticism is also in play.

00:44:59.560 There is a real belief that the Ten Commandments have a form of spiritual power over the hearts and minds of students

00:45:04.160 and that the posting the displays can change their lives.

00:45:09.720 Wow, it's Christian mysticism to believe that the Word of God does not return void, David French?

00:45:17.460 Is that Christian mysticism or is that just believing in the Bible?

00:45:20.680 Is it mystic to believe what the Bible says?

00:45:25.320 That someone who is sitting there who reads the Ten Commandments,

00:45:28.020 which is the inspired, inerrant, infallible Word of God,

00:45:31.600 that God could use that truth to plant a seed in their heart

00:45:34.720 that he may not water or give growth to until years later,

00:45:38.240 but maybe that's the only time they've ever read the Bible.

00:45:42.020 You're saying that God can't use that, that he won't use that,

00:45:45.120 that that's some kind of Gnostic, mystic spiritualism?

00:45:48.820 I don't think so.

00:45:50.700 Now, I'm not even saying that is, that's what's going to happen

00:45:54.800 or that's the primary purpose of the legislators who wrote this law.

00:45:59.800 That's not what I'm saying.

00:46:01.320 I haven't even argued that that's why they should be put up,

00:46:05.340 but I'm not going to put it past God.

00:46:08.160 Of course, that's what the Word of God does.

00:46:10.340 Like, shouldn't we be excited about that prospect?

00:46:13.160 That is what distinguishes the Word of God from all other religious texts.

00:46:16.920 It's one, that it's true, two, that it's good,

00:46:20.200 and three, because of those things, yes, it actually can change hearts and minds.

00:46:24.700 That is like a central tenet of Christianity.

00:46:27.280 I don't see how that is mysticism at all.

00:46:30.660 But of course, this is what David French does.

00:46:33.400 He tickles left and punches right while still claiming to be in the middle.

00:46:38.840 I don't even know if he claims to be conservative anymore,

00:46:41.740 because drag queen story hour, funded by the taxpayers in a library,

00:46:47.020 that's a blessing of liberty.

00:46:48.940 The Ten Commandments in a classroom that is funded by private voluntary donations,

00:46:56.520 that's a violation of free speech and freedom of religion.

00:47:02.020 One, he says, the drag queen, a blessing of liberty.

00:47:04.780 The other is an infringement upon liberty,

00:47:10.680 based on what I think is a very faulty and wobbly, dare I say mystic, argument.

00:47:18.240 Governor Gavin Newsom, he doesn't have enough going on in California.

00:47:24.060 California is just running so smoothly.

00:47:26.220 It's perfect.

00:47:26.940 It's wonderful.

00:47:27.900 It's flourishing.

00:47:29.060 And so he has to spend some of his time paying attention

00:47:32.120 to what other random states are doing that has really no impact on him

00:47:36.880 or his constituents whatsoever, but he has to pipe up and talk about it.

00:47:40.120 He says, Louisiana has the worst crime rate in the nation,

00:47:43.560 but this is their priority.

00:47:46.880 Again, you are not one to talk, sir.

00:47:52.560 Progressive commentators have said,

00:47:55.300 if your version of Christianity wants to put the Ten Commandments in schools

00:47:58.240 but take free lunch out of them,

00:47:59.880 you are worshiping something other than Jesus.

00:48:03.540 Who is trying to take free lunches out of schools?

00:48:05.860 Oh, right.

00:48:06.280 That's the Biden administration.

00:48:08.080 The Biden administration tried to take away

00:48:11.000 SNAP benefits from schools that did not follow along

00:48:16.080 with their Title IX changes.

00:48:19.420 Schools, public schools, that said,

00:48:21.640 sorry, we're not going to allow boys into girls' restrooms, 1.00

00:48:25.560 the Biden administration said,

00:48:26.960 oh, you will, or else we will take away your free lunches.

00:48:29.620 That was the Biden administration who did that.

00:48:31.780 Zach Lambert, you probably don't know

00:48:33.280 because none of these little talking head progressive commentators on Twitter

00:48:36.560 have any clue what they're talking about.

00:48:38.300 If they sat right here on the couch

00:48:40.920 and talked to me or any other conservative host about these things,

00:48:45.800 they would be sweating bullets.

00:48:47.680 They would be just absolutely out of their minds,

00:48:51.720 nervous because they have no substance

00:48:53.960 to their vapid tweets or behind their vapid commentary.

00:48:59.380 Now, let me just tell you,

00:49:00.500 let me give you a summary of what I think about all of this.

00:49:04.500 I know I have been accused many a time of being a so-called Christian nationalist,

00:49:10.120 and those who accuse me or other people of that

00:49:13.220 never have like a secure definition,

00:49:16.620 a stable definition of what that means.

00:49:18.880 The examples that I've been given is,

00:49:21.320 oh, I criticize the ethics of in vitro fertilization.

00:49:25.200 That apparently makes you a Christian nationalist

00:49:27.240 because I say things like America was established upon Christian principles

00:49:32.420 because I believe that Christians should bring our worldview to the voting booth.

00:49:37.960 Yeah, these are very common, normal, sane, non-radical positions to take.

00:49:44.260 Like, if you believe that Christian nationalism is,

00:49:48.940 oh, America is God's chosen country,

00:49:51.460 and we play a central role in the apocalypse and eschatology and end times,

00:49:56.520 and like Trump is our messiah who is going to save America and Western civilization,

00:50:02.540 then you've got the wrong girl.

00:50:05.380 That's not my theology at all.

00:50:07.020 That's not my—those aren't my politics.

00:50:09.640 I've never said anything like that.

00:50:12.160 But of course, I'm not dealing with honest people

00:50:14.360 who participate in that kind of crazy slander.

00:50:18.540 But I do unapologetically say that, yeah,

00:50:22.940 Christians should not be afraid to bring our worldview into the classroom,

00:50:26.820 into the voting booth,

00:50:28.960 into your job,

00:50:32.400 into every sphere that you occupy,

00:50:34.080 because every other person does the same thing.

00:50:37.060 Progressives do.

00:50:37.900 So, here is my—here's my summary of my take on this.

00:50:42.780 Putting the Ten Commandments in schools isn't the same

00:50:44.900 as putting the Quran or a statue of Baphomet in schools

00:50:47.660 for at least a few reasons,

00:50:48.760 because there were conservatives arguing that.

00:50:50.520 Well, if you're okay with the Ten Commandments,

00:50:51.840 then you should be okay with the Quran. 0.58

00:50:53.520 No. 1.00

00:50:54.460 Your moral relativism is stupid. 1.00

00:50:56.740 Number one, the Ten Commandments are true. 1.00

00:50:59.580 Number two, the Ten Commandments are good.

00:51:02.180 Number three, America was founded upon

00:51:04.320 uniquely Christian concepts, principles, premises, and assumptions,

00:51:07.520 our law giving is modeled after God's law giving to Israel.

00:51:11.680 It is from the Bible, not another religious text,

00:51:14.520 that America derived its ideas of human rights,

00:51:17.160 private property, due process, etc.

00:51:20.020 Knowing the Ten Commandments should be required 0.99

00:51:22.720 in every school for the sheer fact that it is impossible

00:51:26.860 to understand American history or Western civilization without them.

00:51:31.260 That cannot be said of the tenets of Satanism, Islam, Buddhism,

00:51:36.120 or any other of those religions,

00:51:38.600 which are entirely irrelevant to the foundation of our country.

00:51:42.860 They are irrelevant to the history of our country.

00:51:46.620 You do not have to understand any of the doctrines of Islam or Buddhism

00:51:52.460 or any kind of Eastern religion to understand America at all.

00:51:58.460 They are entirely irrelevant to understanding the foundation of our country,

00:52:02.440 where our laws come from, where our social contract comes from.

00:52:07.620 Also, the display of the Ten Commandments compels no one to believe or worship anything.

00:52:11.980 It's amazing how many supposedly Christian conservatives 1.00

00:52:14.780 have been duped by the moral relativism inherent in secular liberalism.

00:52:20.820 And then I got a lot of responses saying,

00:52:23.140 the problem is this is your opinion based on your faith.

00:52:26.380 So people took issue when I said the Ten Commandments are true,

00:52:29.240 the Ten Commandments are good, which they are, by the way.

00:52:31.340 And people are saying, oh, well, that's your opinion.

00:52:33.800 That's based on your faith.

00:52:35.380 And my response to that is, what do you think laws are?

00:52:38.240 However, laws are an opinion based on beliefs.

00:52:42.780 Laws are not scientific facts.

00:52:45.260 Every law is a moral opinion based on a particular worldview.

00:52:50.980 Murder is bad and should be illegal is not a conclusion

00:52:54.720 that we've come to based on the scientific method.

00:52:58.200 It is an opinion based on the belief that human beings have inherent worth

00:53:03.800 and therefore have the right to life.

00:53:06.400 You know, not every worldview believes that.

00:53:09.620 Not every religion believes that.

00:53:12.440 Not every belief system holds this idea of human beings having dignity and innate rights.

00:53:20.960 It is that radical concept that literally changed the world with Christians at the helm. 1.00

00:53:27.540 I hear this a lot.

00:53:28.900 Laws shouldn't be based on your opinion.

00:53:30.960 You can't legislate morality.

00:53:32.680 Don't bring your religion and your belief system into our lawmaking, into politics. 0.97

00:53:40.480 Again, I ask, what do you think laws are?

00:53:44.280 What do you think laws are?

00:53:47.340 Secular liberalism has deluded so many, even professing Christians, 0.95

00:53:52.460 into thinking that rights and laws are just common sense,

00:53:56.440 that they're just objective, that they've just always been here.

00:53:59.440 And they require no belief system.

00:54:02.220 I don't really understand how people can believe that kind of nonsense,

00:54:07.760 except that it's just like the easy thing to believe.

00:54:10.300 Like, you do understand that when Christianity, as an influential force,

00:54:15.220 makes its full and final exit from the United States,

00:54:18.880 so will our concept of human rights.

00:54:20.840 Like, you understand that, right?

00:54:24.100 That it was Christianity who has paved the way for every single human rights accomplishment

00:54:31.160 in Western civilization.

00:54:34.260 You're not going to be able to preserve the things that you like about Christianity, 0.98

00:54:40.160 the benefits of Christianity, while taking its foundation away.

00:54:44.720 Like, you know what happens if you were to try to remove the foundation of a building?

00:54:49.920 It might stand for just a little bit.

00:54:51.860 Eventually, it's going to crumble.

00:54:53.620 That's exactly what happens when you try to remove Christianity, 1.00

00:54:57.520 Christian assumptions, Christian presuppositions, Christian moral foundation.

00:55:02.740 When you try to remove that from the country, it will eventually crumble.

00:55:08.220 And the chaos that will replace it is not something that any of us will really like.

00:55:13.800 I really liked this comic by Narrow Road Comics.

00:55:18.720 You see this picture, and it is, if you're just listening to this,

00:55:23.440 it's a picture of what's supposed to be Moses,

00:55:25.500 and he's got his tablets with the Ten Commandments,

00:55:28.560 and you've got this woman, this, like, BIPOC LGBTQ person, I don't know,

00:55:35.360 like, sitting at this desk saying,

00:55:38.040 government can't impose morality,

00:55:39.600 but around her, you've got Bring Back Roe, 0.85

00:55:43.680 the equal sign sticker, trans rights poster,

00:55:47.780 like, gender fluid, pride flag, Black Lives Matter,

00:55:54.220 and all of that.

00:55:55.380 Because progressivism is a religion.

00:55:57.940 It's got its doctrines.

00:55:59.000 It's got its dogma.

00:56:00.340 It's got its competing beliefs about human nature and sin

00:56:03.200 and right and wrong and even eschatology,

00:56:05.600 eschatology, what it looks like to bring the kingdom here on Earth.

00:56:09.300 It is its own religion that competes in every way with Christianity. 0.98

00:56:14.780 And they are not afraid to bring their religion into every sphere that they occupy,

00:56:21.180 imperialize and colonize every institution, 1.00

00:56:26.100 and go after dissidents,

00:56:28.940 go after heretics like Jack Phillips 1.00

00:56:31.600 and others who dare say,

00:56:33.440 nope, I'm not going along with that.

00:56:36.220 That is why they are opposing

00:56:37.940 showing the Ten Commandments in the classroom.

00:56:54.060 Andrew Walker, who is an expert on natural law,

00:56:57.020 we've had him on a couple times,

00:56:58.520 he says,

00:56:59.520 even as a Baptist,

00:57:00.460 I support the Louisiana law mandating the posting of the Ten Commandments 0.99

00:57:03.220 in public school classrooms.

00:57:04.860 Baptists affirm the separation of church and state as formal institutions,

00:57:07.660 each with their own jurisdictions.

00:57:09.180 Yes, we do.

00:57:10.020 We do not advocate for the separation of government and morality.

00:57:12.740 Exactly.

00:57:13.740 This law does not legally codify either Judaism or Christianity

00:57:16.920 as the state's established religion,

00:57:19.080 which was the original meaning of the Establishment Clause

00:57:21.940 that our jurisprudence has sadly and wrongly mangled.

00:57:25.140 Moreover, since two faiths affirm values of the Ten Commandments,

00:57:27.820 how can two faiths be established simultaneously?

00:57:30.680 That is true.

00:57:31.800 That's a good point.

00:57:33.320 If they are used by both Judaism and Christianity,

00:57:37.060 they're both seen as authoritative in both,

00:57:39.620 and Judaism and Christianity are not the same.

00:57:42.180 Like, we actually completely disagree on the core of our religions

00:57:48.040 that we believe that the Messiah has already come.

00:57:50.260 Like, how can you say that this is establishing a religion?

00:57:53.860 What's the religion?

00:57:54.800 Judeo-Christianity?

00:57:56.560 Two religions that are not the same? 0.99

00:57:58.840 Posting it must come, he says,

00:58:00.260 with a preamble that states of the Ten Commandments

00:58:02.280 played a prominent part of American public education

00:58:04.280 for almost three centuries.

00:58:05.480 In short summary,

00:58:06.120 this law mandates the historical recognition

00:58:08.600 of the religio-ethical foundations of American law,

00:58:12.620 of which the Ten Commandments materially contributed.

00:58:17.660 Laws and the ethics undergirding them

00:58:19.680 do not arise in a vacuum,

00:58:21.040 so it is good to pay homage to Western law civilization,

00:58:24.120 or foundation,

00:58:24.760 which is indisputably Christian.

00:58:27.060 Governor Landry is correct when he states,

00:58:29.060 if you want to respect the law,

00:58:30.920 you've got to start from the original lawgiver,

00:58:33.540 which was Moses.

00:58:34.180 And then I think the most profound

00:58:37.320 and just serious insight comes from Kyle Mann

00:58:42.260 of the Babylon Bee,

00:58:44.880 and he said,

00:58:46.800 and I'll just finish with this

00:58:47.920 because it's just so, like, wow, wow.

00:58:51.680 And I could put this on a t-shirt

00:58:53.160 and probably sell a lot.

00:58:55.060 He says,

00:58:55.660 has anyone turned into a little turd muffin 0.61

00:58:57.480 faster than David French?

00:59:00.220 And I think that we'll probably end on that,

00:59:03.940 so thank you so much to Kyle Mann

00:59:06.280 and the Babylon Bee

00:59:07.320 for closing out our episode

00:59:09.100 in such just a brilliant way.

00:59:12.160 All right, that's all we've got time for.

00:59:13.760 We'll be back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 24, 2024

Ep 1024 ｜ First Presidential Debate, 10 Commandments in Schools

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