Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1026 ｜ The Secret to Preventing Cancer ｜ Guest： Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy

00:00:00.780 Cancer was once a disease that was mostly reserved for older people.

00:00:06.340 That's no longer the case.

00:00:07.920 Cancer diagnoses among young people in the United States has skyrocketed in the past

00:00:13.700 10 to 20 years.

00:00:15.060 Why is that?

00:00:15.980 And how do we reverse this trend?

00:00:19.260 Today, I've got Dr. Leigh-Aaron Keneally.

00:00:22.100 She created the Cancer Center for Healing as a result of this cancer epidemic. 0.69

00:00:27.980 Oh, my goodness.

00:00:28.980 She has got so much knowledge and wisdom to share with us today.

00:00:34.360 You are going to learn so much from this episode of Wellness Wednesday.

00:00:38.820 I know I did.

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00:00:46.600 Dr. Keneally, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

00:01:00.260 If you could tell everyone who you are and what you do.

00:01:02.940 All right.

00:01:03.420 My name is Dr. Leigh-Aaron Keneally, and I'm a medical doctor.

00:01:06.540 I've been practicing for about 38 years now.

00:01:09.980 And I'm the medical director of Cancer Center for Healing and Center for New Medicine.

00:01:15.600 So before we get into what it looks like to holistically fight cancer, because a lot of

00:01:21.700 people have questions about what that even means, how did you get into this specific field

00:01:27.720 of medicine?

00:01:28.360 Well, a couple of things that influenced me.

00:01:32.980 I'm number three of six children.

00:01:35.160 When my mother was pregnant with me, she started bleeding. 0.89

00:01:39.760 And she went to the doctor, and the doctor said, oh, I have a medication that will stop

00:01:45.620 the bleeding and prevent the miscarriage.

00:01:48.140 Fast forward 16 years later, my parents receive a letter that that drug, called DES, diethylstobestrol,

00:01:56.140 could cause cancer in both male and female offspring, hormone problems, anatomical problems, infertility

00:02:04.040 problems.

00:02:04.920 Wow.

00:02:05.500 So I started going to MD Anderson Hospital, because I lived and grew up in Houston, Texas,

00:02:11.940 and started going through lots of different evaluation procedures, because that's what they

00:02:18.520 had recommended.

00:02:20.060 And so at that time, I knew I wanted to be a doctor.

00:02:23.900 And so I went to college, got my degree in biology, went to medical school in Chicago,

00:02:31.760 did training at Harbor UCLA in Torrance.

00:02:34.960 And then I was working in the hospitals and the ERs, and then I had the opportunity.

00:02:43.280 I interviewed with a physician, and he said, oh, I will help you start your practice.

00:02:48.240 And he was a little bit outside the box thinking.

00:02:51.660 He was an internist and a pathologist, which is a very unique combination.

00:02:56.400 I don't know actually what internist is.

00:02:58.520 Internist is a medical doctor that treats adult patients.

00:03:02.980 Okay.

00:03:03.320 You know, like pediatrician treats younger babies and stuff.

00:03:07.220 So internist treats adult patients.

00:03:09.580 And a pathologist, and you said that's-

00:03:11.620 A pathologist, they look at the tissue under the microscope and then make a, you know, a

00:03:16.260 pathological diagnosis.

00:03:17.840 And you said that's an interesting combination.

00:03:19.120 Combination, because you're seeing patients and then you're getting to see the pathology

00:03:23.960 of that patient.

00:03:25.080 Okay.

00:03:25.580 So he started teaching me lots of different things that I was like, whoa, I didn't learn

00:03:30.600 this in medical school.

00:03:31.620 And then growing up in Texas, my mother was ultra natural. 1.00

00:03:36.600 She nursed us all for a year.

00:03:38.500 She never used a jar of baby food.

00:03:40.780 She never allowed us to eat out.

00:03:44.060 We ate at home.

00:03:45.060 I bet she was mortified when she got that letter. 0.89

00:03:47.140 Yes.

00:03:47.360 When you were 16.

00:03:48.700 Oh, yes.

00:03:49.560 It was-

00:03:49.920 I mean, anyone would be, but especially someone who is so naturally, natural minded, thinking

00:03:55.040 that a medication could still have effects on her children.

00:03:57.920 Right.

00:03:58.280 Well, think about it.

00:03:59.200 And, you know, you trust the doctor.

00:04:01.580 Of course.

00:04:02.160 And so you think, okay, this is the best option.

00:04:05.320 And then what mother wants to risk losing their baby? 0.97

00:04:08.280 Exactly.

00:04:09.140 And so, but, you know, hindsight's always 20-20.

00:04:12.760 That drug was used for 40 years knowing it had oncogenic cancer-causing potential.

00:04:18.720 So it did not cause any negative effects in you that you know of?

00:04:22.100 Oh, I had lots of little side effects.

00:04:24.620 Oh, you did?

00:04:25.260 Yes.

00:04:25.660 A couple of things.

00:04:26.440 One, I did have abnormal, they call it atypia or dysplasia, which is irregularity in the

00:04:35.420 cells.

00:04:36.320 So you have normal cells, and then you have dysplasia, which is how they're cross-folding,

00:04:41.980 and then you have cancer.

00:04:44.060 And then I never had two periods in a row in my life, so I became a hormone expert.

00:04:48.740 When I needed to have my babies, I had to go to an infertility expert because I never

00:04:54.100 had two periods in a row in my life.

00:04:56.640 And then I developed scoliosis, and I had 18 hours of back surgery five years ago.

00:05:02.880 Wow.

00:05:03.300 And all of this is probably, as far as we know, from the pill that your mother took while

00:05:08.360 she was pregnant.

00:05:09.000 Right.

00:05:09.320 Because we have no genetic predisposition for any of these things.

00:05:14.960 Right.

00:05:15.020 I mean, I have five brothers and sisters, and they're all alive and well and actually have

00:05:20.380 a very uneventful medical history.

00:05:24.180 Yeah.

00:05:24.620 And so, you know, I always tell people, though, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing if, you

00:05:32.220 know, that had not occurred.

00:05:33.780 Yeah.

00:05:34.080 You know, your mess becomes your message, right?

00:05:36.320 Mm-hmm.

00:05:37.380 And gosh, there are so many lessons to be learned.

00:05:39.560 That's one of them.

00:05:40.300 That's what I was thinking, that, like, God orchestrated.

00:05:44.140 I mean, how He just orchestrated your life based on something that was bad, that was, you

00:05:48.840 know, harmful in a lot of ways, but used it for you to kind of be a vessel of healing

00:05:54.160 for others.

00:05:55.420 That in itself is pretty incredible.

00:05:57.440 But I also think of the whole kind of trust the science message that especially we heard during

00:06:02.860 COVID, and within that was kind of the message that you should never question what's considered

00:06:09.900 science in the moment, or you should never question doctors.

00:06:13.760 But we can see throughout medical history that there have been a variety of medical solutions

00:06:19.200 that have ended up having detrimental effects.

00:06:23.920 And it was maybe because not enough people spoke up at the time or knew to speak up at the

00:06:28.920 time and wouldn't question that they kind of got away with that for so long.

00:06:33.840 Right.

00:06:34.240 And especially now more than ever, and I would tell anyone out there listening, is to question

00:06:41.980 everything, go down the rabbit hole, get different opinions.

00:06:47.880 And really, you know, the Hippocratic oath is first, do no harm.

00:06:52.000 And so, you know, before, I mean, before the conventional medical allopathic protocol, all

00:07:00.980 doctors were naturopaths.

00:07:02.600 And what's allopathic?

00:07:03.640 Allopathic is the way that we practice medicine today.

00:07:07.120 You get a diagnosis, you diagnose, and then you treat either with drugs or surgery.

00:07:12.360 That's kind of what we do now.

00:07:14.620 I mean, what conventional medical doctors do now.

00:07:17.680 Right.

00:07:18.080 And so, but a hundred years ago, before the advent of penicillin, all doctors had to treat

00:07:26.180 their patients naturally because there were no medications.

00:07:30.040 Think about it.

00:07:31.400 Right.

00:07:31.780 And so patients, all doctors had to use natural remedies.

00:07:36.340 Yeah.

00:07:36.580 And they had to go to the root cause or they wanted to go to the root cause, right?

00:07:40.340 Right.

00:07:41.400 Root cause, exactly.

00:07:42.300 You know, to really explain to people their root causes, you know, everybody always wants

00:07:49.380 to relate and get one thing to fix their problem, right?

00:07:53.840 Right.

00:07:54.060 And they want something easy, quick, fast.

00:07:57.300 And I tell people the miracle that you're privileged to live in is not easy, quick, fast

00:08:03.500 in any form or fashion.

00:08:04.920 We are 50 million cells, 50 trillion cells, excuse me, with the most unbelievable anatomy,

00:08:14.260 physiology, I mean, electrical aspects of our body that, you know, it's absolutely amazing

00:08:23.900 miracle.

00:08:24.500 And if we all grew up with that and we all were taught that our, you know, body and our

00:08:32.520 mind and our spirit is this beautiful sanctuary that we need to take care of, it would be very,

00:08:39.660 very different.

00:08:40.800 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:08:42.440 So I know I kind of backtracked us a little bit, but going off of that, you said that once

00:08:47.440 you were starting your practice and you met this doctor who decided to help you, he, you

00:08:52.260 said he was a pathologist and an internist, internist, um, and that he did, he started

00:08:58.340 teaching you things that you hadn't grown up knowing or thinking about or learning in

00:09:03.580 medical school.

00:09:04.260 Right.

00:09:04.580 So tell us a little bit more about that.

00:09:06.760 Right.

00:09:07.080 So I started my practice cause I was like, okay, what is a good way to get patients?

00:09:12.680 So weight loss is a great way to get patients.

00:09:16.160 And so, and it's still a great way to get patients.

00:09:19.000 And so he taught me also how to, it was a very interesting story because when I was

00:09:25.700 21, I was living in Mexico to learn Spanish and my girlfriend, she was from Hungary and

00:09:30.800 we would trade food journals and to lose weight.

00:09:35.360 And so then we kept track of our food and our exercise and everything that we were doing

00:09:41.600 every day.

00:09:42.460 So I was doing that before I even practice medicine.

00:09:46.680 So I'm just interested, you were learning Spanish in Mexico just cause you wanted to,

00:09:50.460 or was it for any kind of particular purpose?

00:09:52.200 No, just because I wanted to.

00:09:54.180 I grew up in Texas, but I never, my mother made me always take Latin.

00:09:58.180 And so Spanish, when I was young, I would travel to Mexico City to spend my summers.

00:10:04.260 Latin was probably helpful in medical school.

00:10:06.160 Well, it's helpful for many, many different things.

00:10:09.240 Understanding languages.

00:10:10.900 Latin is very good.

00:10:11.700 Not to mention the literature and the history is amazing to learn, glean from.

00:10:18.820 Yes.

00:10:19.220 Okay.

00:10:19.640 I know I keep on taking you down these rabbit trails.

00:10:21.960 I just find so many aspects of it interesting.

00:10:24.080 So you were trading food journals with your friend that was in Hungary at the time, which

00:10:28.100 I love.

00:10:28.860 That's such an interesting way to like, to just compare the different kinds of foods.

00:10:32.820 So, and then...

00:10:33.420 We were our accountability partner, basically, right?

00:10:36.340 Which is kind of what everyone kind of needs, is someone to hold them accountable.

00:10:40.680 So we did this.

00:10:41.780 We both were very successful because we each had to tell each other what we were doing.

00:10:46.740 Okay.

00:10:47.340 And so, anyway, so then that extrapolated to me starting my practice in basically

00:10:54.800 hypometabolic medicine, which everybody wants to blame their metabolism on their weight loss,

00:11:00.060 right?

00:11:00.280 Yeah.

00:11:00.480 So hypometabolic, so slow metabolism.

00:11:03.000 Slow metabolism.

00:11:04.340 So anyway, so he taught me lots of different things about hormones.

00:11:09.720 Okay.

00:11:09.920 I knew about hormones, what you learn in medical school, but the actual understanding of hormones

00:11:15.200 and what they do in your body has been an entire revelation for me personally and professionally.

00:11:21.240 And so, so I really, when we had a patient, we always asked them how they live.

00:11:27.300 Okay.

00:11:27.580 How much sleep do you get?

00:11:29.900 How much water?

00:11:31.400 I mean, what are you eating?

00:11:32.640 You know, you need to keep a food journal.

00:11:34.480 I know people hate food journals, but it's like the best way to know what you're eating

00:11:39.320 and you have to force yourself to like, take a look at that, right?

00:11:43.580 And then exercise and activity.

00:11:46.100 And so, and then stress is a whole nother thing to deal with.

00:11:51.280 So anyway, so then when patients would come in to see me, my first office was in Beverly

00:11:56.420 Hills, California, and patients after a while, you know, we, you would see patients and they

00:12:01.580 would bring in an article.

00:12:02.820 Oh, Dr.

00:12:03.280 Kenley, what do you think about this?

00:12:04.520 And what do you think about this?

00:12:05.420 And they would bring in some fascinating information.

00:12:08.420 I'm like, oh my God, I've never even heard of this.

00:12:11.100 So I started going down different rabbit holes based upon my patients asking me for information.

00:12:18.120 About weight loss specifically?

00:12:19.560 No, any, it could be anything, longevity, anti-aging, hormones, all different things.

00:12:24.860 So people were coming to you specifically for that?

00:12:28.540 Is that what?

00:12:28.840 For weight loss.

00:12:29.540 Okay.

00:12:29.740 For weight loss specifically, but what they were bringing in kind of covered a broad spectrum

00:12:33.980 of things.

00:12:34.320 Broad spectrum of different things.

00:12:35.540 So I started going down all these different rabbit holes and I was like, oh, whoa, there's

00:12:40.980 a lot to things.

00:12:43.460 And because in medical school, let's face it, it's didactic.

00:12:47.160 And when you are trained at a hospital, you're looking at emergency situations, people with

00:12:53.980 big tumors, people bleeding, people drug overdose.

00:12:57.320 I mean, you're not dealing with the day to day, you know, functionalities of a person,

00:13:03.480 right?

00:13:03.680 You're dealing with crisis management, right?

00:13:07.020 So when you go out in the real world, not that you might not have a crisis, but you're

00:13:11.980 seeing patients who are coming to see you maybe for an annual visit, maybe they need hormone

00:13:17.980 replacement, maybe they're coming to see you for preventive care, maybe they have a diagnosis

00:13:23.540 of diabetes or autoimmune, or one of the biggest complaints people have today is fatigue.

00:13:29.280 And so, you know, people come to you now for all different reasons.

00:13:34.240 And, you know, now I see everything from stage four cancer to human optimization.

00:13:39.920 Okay.

00:13:40.520 And so it's in everything, like you talked about earlier, everything has many, many, many

00:13:48.160 different causes.

00:13:49.540 Right.

00:13:49.800 And so when you're treating a patient, the label is just the diagnosis, because in conventional

00:13:57.680 medicine, we use a diagnosis because that's how you get paid.

00:14:02.400 Okay.

00:14:02.740 So we have the electronic medical record, and it's all, you know, pre-populated with how

00:14:08.640 you should do a history and physical.

00:14:10.400 So I customize mine because it's very different than the regular history and physical.

00:14:16.080 And then the patient gets a diagnosis, let's say chronic fatigue syndrome, let's say hypertension,

00:14:23.100 let's say hyperglycemia, hyperlipidemia.

00:14:26.120 So those are all diagnosis.

00:14:28.200 And so the doctor will get paid based upon their diagnosis.

00:14:32.840 And so I look at it as how do I de-diagnose you?

00:14:37.180 How do I take away those diagnoses and create health and build health?

00:14:44.440 We basically are focusing on sickness.

00:14:48.220 Right.

00:14:48.620 And more and more sickness.

00:14:51.000 Okay.

00:14:51.340 And if you look at what's going on in our world today, autism is at an all time high.

00:14:56.800 In the state of California, it's one in 22.

00:14:59.240 Other people say it's one in 37.

00:15:01.860 60% of our elementary kids have one or more chronic illnesses.

00:15:06.140 Our children have the highest rate of anxiety, depression, and suicide, and 30-year-olds are

00:15:12.140 getting cancer.

00:15:13.300 So we should be in outrage.

00:15:15.140 Doctors should be in outrage and the public should be in outrage because this is unacceptable.

00:15:19.980 If we can send people to the moon and talk to Africa, we should be able to create health 0.81

00:15:25.020 and humanity.

00:15:25.700 But you say it mostly for a lot of doctors comes down to, you said medical school is didactic.

00:15:43.240 You said that just what they're learning in medical school is not necessarily how to holistically heal

00:15:49.520 someone, but basically what insurance code to put down based on the diagnosis, right?

00:15:55.680 Correct.

00:15:56.700 Right.

00:15:56.920 And that is a big part of the problem.

00:15:59.440 Right.

00:15:59.760 And doctors are overwhelmed by the demands of their electronic medical record.

00:16:04.980 So they have very little time to truly care and talk to the patient because their electronic

00:16:12.260 medical record rules them today.

00:16:15.260 Yes.

00:16:15.440 Okay.

00:16:15.800 Long time ago, I didn't have an electronic medical record.

00:16:18.900 We had typewriters and we did everything by hand.

00:16:21.460 Yeah.

00:16:21.640 And so, and we sat down and we talked to people.

00:16:25.340 Today, doctors don't have time.

00:16:27.440 They look at your records.

00:16:29.040 They make sure you're not going to die, right?

00:16:32.220 Or you don't need to go to the emergency room and they look at your diagnosis and they

00:16:36.500 write you a prescription.

00:16:37.580 They have a prescription in their pocket or in their hand.

00:16:40.040 Right.

00:16:40.700 Okay.

00:16:41.360 And prescription drugs, some people say it's the number one cause of death and some people

00:16:46.660 say, the CD says, it's the third leading cause of death.

00:16:49.920 But, um, I know it's high up there.

00:16:53.780 Okay.

00:16:54.100 Cause literally you probably can't account, right?

00:16:57.500 How someone dies if they're taking five medicines, 10 medicines, correct?

00:17:01.820 And we know heart disease is up there in the top three and cancer.

00:17:06.480 Right.

00:17:06.940 And so we should be able to create, like, again, I say is health and human optimization

00:17:14.240 in every patient.

00:17:15.660 We can do that.

00:17:16.820 I know we do it every single day.

00:17:18.480 Yeah.

00:17:18.880 You know, I had an endocrinologist who recently just retired from his practice and he's only,

00:17:24.700 you know, he's only in his fifties and he said he's only taking some concierge, uh, patients.

00:17:29.780 And the, what he told me is it's because of the insurance and how much time that takes

00:17:34.560 me.

00:17:34.760 He was like, I didn't go to medical school for this or like, this is not why I do what

00:17:38.840 I do.

00:17:39.340 And so I'm sure if that's what he's saying, that's how a lot of doctors feel.

00:17:45.160 So how did, how did you get out of that?

00:17:47.340 How did you say, I'm not going to do that?

00:17:49.800 I'm not spending all my time figuring out the, you know, the diagnosis just to basically

00:17:54.720 maintain someone's sickness.

00:17:56.020 Well, interestingly enough, 38 years ago, I took insurance.

00:18:00.580 Okay.

00:18:01.220 Because they paid the doctor.

00:18:02.960 Yeah.

00:18:03.220 Right.

00:18:03.920 Then as time goes on, like your doctor was saying, they're not paying the doctor.

00:18:10.320 Basically, you're working, working, working feverishly.

00:18:14.100 Most doctors work like 12 hours, 10 to 12 hours a day, just to see the patients, do the

00:18:20.040 electronic medical records, refill prescriptions, make sure there's nothing critical going on.

00:18:25.020 Okay.

00:18:25.880 And they do not have time to do anything else.

00:18:29.460 And so I decided, we decided as a team, like, no, we cannot do this anymore.

00:18:34.120 We're all killing ourselves.

00:18:36.360 And so it was the best decision I ever made is getting out of insurance.

00:18:41.560 And now we can properly take care of our patients.

00:18:45.780 I think today the patients realize that.

00:18:48.380 That's why a lot of physicians are opting out to do concierge medicine. 0.83

00:18:53.480 Right.

00:18:53.780 Concierge medicine, though, is still not fixing you.

00:18:57.380 Most concierge doctors are, it's just like they're limiting the amount of people they see.

00:19:02.740 They'll sit down and talk to them, which is part of good care is sitting down and talking

00:19:07.000 to patients.

00:19:07.700 And, but they're not really practicing holistically.

00:19:12.020 The other words we use today are integratively or functionally, right?

00:19:17.280 So it's combining the best of conventional medicine with the new, what I call updated,

00:19:24.260 natural allopathic protocol.

00:19:26.840 Okay.

00:19:27.240 Because medicine's changed.

00:19:29.300 Most things, if you went to medical school, in five to seven years, what you learned is

00:19:34.440 outdated.

00:19:34.880 So there is, it got to be a continuous upgrade of knowledge that you have to be acquiring to

00:19:42.140 take care of the patient in front of you.

00:19:44.140 So either, if you're going to do the insurance thing, and I'm just thinking about my own experience,

00:19:49.100 the most experience I've had with doctors is when I've given birth three times and I'm

00:19:54.260 comparing like my OB versus the midwife group and they both took insurance.

00:19:59.020 So I'm guessing it's either you opt out of the whole insurance scheme altogether, or you

00:20:06.440 limit the number of patients you can see, which is, I think what my midwife group did, because

00:20:12.160 I think about how they treated me every appointment they would sit down, they would talk to me like

00:20:16.460 I'm a friend for as long as I wanted to.

00:20:18.900 And then my OB, I'm sure, you know, he's a great doctor.

00:20:21.540 I'm not saying he's a bad guy.

00:20:22.560 It was literally maybe 30 seconds, like he would come in and he would say the same thing.

00:20:27.720 You good?

00:20:28.240 You good?

00:20:28.660 If you see anybody leaving, let me know.

00:20:30.340 And then that would be it.

00:20:31.880 And then he was out and I didn't even, you know, get to know him.

00:20:35.260 He wasn't there at my birth.

00:20:36.440 And I'm guessing it's, you know, because of this, like sees a bunch of patients, but also

00:20:42.380 all the insurance stuff, which can really have a big effect on patients, right?

00:20:48.620 Right.

00:20:49.000 It does because you're just, you're just not getting care.

00:20:52.400 Basically, you're getting the absolute necessity, okay, of what you need.

00:20:57.540 Right.

00:20:57.820 All right.

00:20:58.700 And you, but again, if you're just getting a prescription, how is that fixing you?

00:21:04.120 Right.

00:21:04.480 You know, it's easy to treat patients.

00:21:07.620 It's not easy to heal patients.

00:21:09.980 Right.

00:21:10.420 Right.

00:21:11.140 So you said that patients see you for now a wide range of things.

00:21:14.880 They might have stage four cancer.

00:21:16.620 They might have a just need to lose weight.

00:21:19.980 Before we get into the cancer portion, I'm interested in your perspective on weight loss.

00:21:27.120 I mean, there's been debates for years and years and years on how to properly lose weight.

00:21:31.800 I remember learning in college, Fitness 101, that it's, there may be a variety of factors,

00:21:37.800 but it's basically calories in, calories out.

00:21:41.580 Does it come down to that, calories in, calories out?

00:21:44.640 And how exactly should we be calculating that?

00:21:47.540 Right.

00:21:47.720 Well, I believe, yes, there is, but studies show that today people have very inefficient

00:21:56.900 metabolic, okay?

00:21:59.480 And the way it was, you know, 30 years ago, 60 years ago, people had better metabolisms.

00:22:05.720 Now, with all the extreme exposure of toxicity from everything from endocrine disruptors to

00:22:15.680 insecticides, pesticides, glyphosate and everything, we're a chemical soup every day and every

00:22:22.200 individual is an original.

00:22:23.720 So how you take in the, you know, universe and sell somebody else does is completely different.

00:22:28.740 We're all unique in how our body detoxifies, how it processes everything.

00:22:34.700 And then let's face it, you know, most people don't follow a healthy lifestyle, all right?

00:22:41.640 They don't sleep.

00:22:43.240 50% of the population doesn't sleep.

00:22:45.040 So if you don't sleep, you'll have a tendency to put on weight.

00:22:47.820 Like less than eight hours or even?

00:22:49.740 It should be, you want to honor your circadian rhythm, which is about 10 to 6, give or take

00:22:54.300 30 minutes.

00:22:55.140 Okay.

00:22:55.360 Okay.

00:22:56.540 Then most people don't drink water.

00:22:59.280 They replace it with energy drinks or other kinds of drinks.

00:23:05.140 And, but you got to, you want to drink water because water helps the body detoxify and do

00:23:11.420 its necessary functions.

00:23:13.260 All right.

00:23:13.920 And I'm not saying you need to over drink, you know, but you just don't want to under drink.

00:23:18.080 Yeah.

00:23:18.540 All right.

00:23:18.920 But then people eat a lot of processed foods and a lot of seed oils and almost everything

00:23:25.940 you buy that's in a package has sugar in it.

00:23:28.760 When people start consciously looking and become a forensic food scientist, they really

00:23:34.660 will see what's in their food.

00:23:36.100 Now, if you're buying a one ingredient like an apple or a zucchini, you know usually what

00:23:41.300 that is.

00:23:41.760 But we have to buy all of that produce now organic because of the insecticides and pesticides.

00:23:48.460 So I think being mindful and conscious of your food intake and how much food, because

00:23:54.180 we are a society of extreme proportions, correct?

00:23:58.540 And then we have 800 muscles that need to move our body.

00:24:02.080 And, you know, they say sitting's the new smoking.

00:24:04.360 So people sit on their computer, they're sitting doing everything instead of maximizing their

00:24:10.960 movement and maximizing their muscle mass.

00:24:14.560 And so that's kind of a, you know, it sounds simple and it is simple, okay, but people don't

00:24:24.400 really, you know, do it.

00:24:26.540 Let's just face it.

00:24:27.620 When you sit down, I ask every patient all these questions.

00:24:30.760 And then when you talk about stress, because stress increases your cortisol, therefore

00:24:36.560 it makes you gain weight.

00:24:38.380 So, and people are really stressed.

00:24:40.780 I mean, they've always been stressed, but it seems like it's more intense today.

00:24:45.080 Yeah.

00:24:45.360 Always in fight or flight.

00:24:46.620 Always in fight or flight.

00:24:48.260 So when the cortisol goes up and you're in fight or flight, is your body saying, oh, I've

00:24:52.460 got to hold on to this fat because I don't know what kind of threat I'm facing?

00:24:55.980 Well, so cortisol causes the increase in sugar.

00:24:59.060 Okay.

00:24:59.900 Increases sugar.

00:25:01.060 Your pancreas has to make insulin. 1.00

00:25:03.420 So insulin comes in to bring down the sugar and it tells your body to store fat.

00:25:08.620 And then that's a vicious cycle all the time.

00:25:11.960 And then a lot of people have hormone imbalances.

00:25:15.260 All right.

00:25:16.040 Thyroid, for example, is a very large growing amount of people who have thyroid dysfunction.

00:25:22.760 And so if you don't have, if your thyroid's not good, that's going to affect your metabolism

00:25:27.520 like 30%.

00:25:28.780 Right.

00:25:29.140 And then you've got to take the proper replacement of thyroid.

00:25:33.300 And most doctors just give Synthroid or level thyroxine.

00:25:35.880 That's what I'm on.

00:25:36.860 I've been on it since I was like 19.

00:25:39.740 Right.

00:25:39.880 And I want to holistically address it.

00:25:41.620 But a lot of people, a lot of women who are in my position, it's just, it's easier to

00:25:45.600 take Synthroid, especially if like, you know, I've had three kids in the past five years.

00:25:49.540 I've been scared to mess with it or to get off of it because, you know, I want to be able

00:25:54.000 to get pregnant and have a healthy pregnancy.

00:25:56.000 So I think it's also kind of scary to try to address it in a more holistic way.

00:26:01.220 Right.

00:26:01.360 But the endocrine system, you know, hormones are the natural drugs to your body.

00:26:06.520 And so it is very important for a mother to be to have an optimal endocrine system. 0.90

00:26:12.480 So women have their thyroid gland. 1.00

00:26:15.840 They have their pancreas, which makes insulin and glucagon. 0.90

00:26:20.140 They have their ovaries that make estrogens and progesterone and testosterone. 0.99

00:26:24.520 And then you have your adrenal glands, which sit on top of your kidney like little hats.

00:26:28.820 And they make over 100 hormones.

00:26:31.120 So the health of your endocrine system is of paramount importance because that is what

00:26:35.860 you're giving your baby, is the baby is living off of you. 0.81

00:26:39.140 So you want to be optimal so that the baby is optimal.

00:26:43.600 Right.

00:26:44.440 And I would say hormone problems exist tremendously today because of the endocrine disruptors that

00:26:51.440 have been around for years.

00:26:52.860 And you said like pesticides.

00:26:54.240 Pesticides, insecticides, the xenoestrogen.

00:26:56.900 The biggest offender is phthalates, plastic.

00:27:00.260 So like, for example, we measure the phthalate level on all of our patients because that-

00:27:06.480 How do you do that?

00:27:07.240 How do you measure that?

00:27:08.000 So that's a urine test.

00:27:10.120 Okay.

00:27:10.840 So that is an important, you know, thing to look at.

00:27:16.280 I mean, obviously we look at glyphosate.

00:27:18.920 We look at mold and fungus.

00:27:20.640 We look at heavy metals.

00:27:22.060 Because like I said earlier, we're living in a toxic soup in our body and in extreme toxicity

00:27:28.080 in our air and our water and our food and then everything we put on our body.

00:27:32.400 Do you think it's possible if someone addresses all of those factors and tries to rid as much

00:27:38.220 as possible those endocrine disruptors that they could heal something like hypothyroidism?

00:27:43.740 Yeah.

00:27:44.000 I think if they properly took care of their body, all right, then properly purified, if

00:27:51.800 they probably got their iodine levels and then again, you know, you don't just say, okay, I'm

00:27:59.180 just going to try treat this naturally.

00:28:01.300 First of all, I always try to fix the patient as good as possible in the beginning and then

00:28:07.700 I can take away.

00:28:09.260 So if you came in to me, some of my patients were like, no, can I do this completely naturally?

00:28:13.640 And I go, absolutely.

00:28:14.600 Let's do it.

00:28:15.140 Let's try.

00:28:16.280 And then some patients maybe feel so bad that we institute some kind of, you know, replacement.

00:28:23.040 I don't use Synthroid.

00:28:24.660 I use natural preparations of thyroid.

00:28:27.420 Like pig desiccated?

00:28:29.000 Yes. 0.86

00:28:29.520 Okay.

00:28:29.860 Like armor?

00:28:30.620 Well, I use another one.

00:28:32.880 It's a natural form of armor because armor changed the formulation a while back.

00:28:39.440 So now I use something called MP thyroid.

00:28:42.640 And so-

00:28:43.100 And you like that better just because it's more natural?

00:28:44.960 Well, no.

00:28:45.620 This is the difference is your thyroid.

00:28:48.060 So your brain makes something called thyroid stimulating hormone, sends a message to your

00:28:53.140 thyroid to make T4 and T3. 0.90

00:28:55.820 T4 is inactive.

00:28:56.940 It doesn't do anything until the liver converts it to T3.

00:29:00.800 So if you're not a good converter, you're still low in your T3.

00:29:04.280 And most doctors don't check T3.

00:29:06.680 So the natural compound has T4 and T3.

00:29:11.500 And really, when you take care of patients, most patients feel better on that natural combo

00:29:17.820 of T4 and T3 than just Synthroid or levothyroxine.

00:29:22.520 But I check the patient's level.

00:29:24.240 Well, if I have a patient that comes in on Synthroid, I'll go, okay, well, let's just

00:29:28.200 see.

00:29:28.820 Maybe you're a good converter and maybe you're making sufficient T3.

00:29:32.980 But my thyroid panel is very extensive.

00:29:36.200 Instead of looking at one or two things, which is typical of the medical profession, I'm looking

00:29:42.060 at all the endocrine function of the thyroid.

00:29:45.580 Right.

00:29:45.900 Looking at thyroid antibodies, looking at reverse T3, looking, you know, at the entire panel of

00:29:52.800 thyroid.

00:29:53.540 And as we're talking about how much hormones can affect not just how someone feels, but

00:29:58.300 their ability to lose weight.

00:30:00.920 Have you seen in women who, they had their baby, they're wanting to lose weight, it can 0.96

00:30:09.440 be difficult to do that.

00:30:12.020 I guess my question is, like, what is your recommendation for women who are postpartum

00:30:18.220 and they're wanting to get back to their pre-baby weight, but it's just been difficult to lose

00:30:23.320 those last few pounds?

00:30:24.540 Asking from personal experience, for me, a lot of people say that, oh, breastfeeding

00:30:29.540 makes you lose weight so easily.

00:30:30.980 That has not been the case for me.

00:30:33.020 And it has always been until, like, a year after birth that I get back to my pre-pregnancy

00:30:38.800 weight and I really kind of hang on to the pounds for a while until I'm, like, almost done

00:30:44.900 breastfeeding.

00:30:45.880 Right.

00:30:46.680 And so I'm guessing that's hormonal.

00:30:49.100 I don't really know, though.

00:30:50.280 So I'm just curious your thoughts on that and, like, what your recommendation would be to

00:30:54.200 women in that position? 1.00

00:30:55.500 Well, I think, first of all, don't stress yourself out about that, okay?

00:31:00.520 Because that's what happens, you know?

00:31:03.180 Let's face it.

00:31:04.340 I would say the top three complaints for women are wait, wait, and wait, okay? 1.00

00:31:08.760 That's my experience, all right?

00:31:11.360 And so I think, first of all, try to do everything that you can.

00:31:15.440 But when you're a mother, like for you, you have three children, you're busy, you're working,

00:31:19.580 you're trying to fit it all in, okay?

00:31:23.040 And just try to do your best.

00:31:24.900 Make sure you can partner with a doctor who can really assess the entire hormonal orchestra

00:31:30.760 to make sure that you are optimal.

00:31:34.020 Now, when you're nursing, obviously, it's very different because your prolactin is high

00:31:39.280 and you're nursing the baby and your hormones aren't what they're going to be when you stop

00:31:44.180 nursing.

00:31:44.880 And what is prolactin?

00:31:46.080 Prolactin is the hormone that causes the release of milk.

00:31:49.540 Okay.

00:31:50.280 And how does that affect your body's ability to metabolize and lose weight?

00:31:54.120 Well, usually, you're not making the estrogen.

00:31:56.780 You know, your whole system is, you know, you're not having periods.

00:32:00.880 It's jacked up, yeah.

00:32:01.380 Yeah, you're not having periods and, you know, everything's on hold until you feed that baby,

00:32:06.760 right?

00:32:07.420 Yeah.

00:32:07.780 So, and every woman, it's a little different because some women, like you said, their metabolism, 1.00

00:32:12.140 it's great after, you know, they have their baby and they're nursing and they're, and you,

00:32:17.280 yeah, because you're using so many calories.

00:32:19.300 Yeah.

00:32:19.700 But that's not the case for everyone.

00:32:21.620 And so, but, but, you know, I wouldn't like, I always tell people, it's sometimes good for

00:32:28.220 you to be of good, healthy weight and, you know, not be skinny, skinny when you're having

00:32:34.460 your nursing and everything.

00:32:35.940 So, I think, start working on that after you have that, after you quit nursing and then

00:32:43.340 you can focus more on all the details.

00:32:46.880 Right.

00:32:47.280 Because with you, with three kids, you're trying to survive every day.

00:32:50.580 Right.

00:32:51.160 And so, you're doing the best job, but, you know, let's face it, it's a lot.

00:32:55.420 Mm-hmm.

00:32:56.020 I mean, I know I've been there, done that.

00:32:58.200 Mm-hmm.

00:32:58.700 And so, you have to have like extreme order and organization if you want to do it all.

00:33:04.680 Yes.

00:33:05.320 And like you said, the stress that can come along with trying to do everything perfectly

00:33:11.040 can actually inhibit you from being able to lose weight quickly.

00:33:15.840 And so, yeah, you do kind of-

00:33:17.200 Right, because nursing is not going to be your end game. 0.86

00:33:20.320 It's going to be, you know, during the time that you decide to nurse that baby.

00:33:25.580 And then after that, your body's going to get back into its normal circadian rhythm and

00:33:31.000 cycle of a menstrual cycle.

00:33:32.420 Right.

00:33:32.580 And you mentioned sleep, and this is definitely relevant to moms with little ones.

00:33:39.100 How does sleep or lack of sleep affect your ability to get healthy and lose weight?

00:33:44.860 Right.

00:33:45.200 Well, sleep is like, we don't even understand all the mysteries of sleep.

00:33:50.360 But sleep is when our body detoxifies.

00:33:53.520 That's when it goes into repair, into regeneration.

00:33:56.480 And so, if it doesn't have the opportunity to do that, then you wake up and you start the whole

00:34:03.940 process again.

00:34:05.440 So, it's your time for restoration.

00:34:09.140 And so, you have to sleep.

00:34:11.760 Now, when you're nursing, I remember I had twins.

00:34:14.060 And I was, you know, when you're up with two babies, but, you know, you get through it.

00:34:19.880 Yeah.

00:34:20.240 Right?

00:34:20.600 You get through it.

00:34:21.440 And hopefully, after four to six months, the babies are sleeping through the night.

00:34:25.780 Luckily, my babies did sleep.

00:34:28.180 My oldest slept after four months and the twins probably after four to six months.

00:34:33.300 So, I was able, you know, to get my sleep back.

00:34:36.620 And so, because I put my babies on a schedule because with twins, like, you can't.

00:34:41.280 You have to, you know.

00:34:42.640 And a lot of people are really against that.

00:34:44.980 Yeah.

00:34:45.440 Not me.

00:34:46.360 But not me because I had an extreme schedule with my work and everything.

00:34:51.620 So, I had to have it.

00:34:52.860 And then no one would want to come and help take care of my kids if my kids weren't on

00:34:56.680 a schedule.

00:34:57.520 Right?

00:34:57.780 So, if they had the same time of eating and playing and everything, it was all predictable

00:35:04.360 and it did work very, very well.

00:35:07.220 And that sleep is just so necessary.

00:35:09.020 I can see a big difference for me.

00:35:11.360 We did, my first two slept through the night probably six months or even sooner than that.

00:35:16.580 My youngest right now, she does, but it's been, it's taken a lot longer.

00:35:23.280 And I can tell a difference just in my joints and how I feel, my energy, my ability to think.

00:35:29.840 And when she did start sleeping through the night, most nights anyway, it was like, I

00:35:33.260 didn't even realize how slow my brain had been working until I started sleeping.

00:35:38.220 And I was like, oh my gosh, I feel like I think quicker.

00:35:40.420 I remember things better.

00:35:41.440 I can talk better.

00:35:42.320 Totally.

00:35:42.780 We don't realize how much sleep affects.

00:35:45.680 Absolutely.

00:35:46.540 You're absolutely right.

00:35:47.700 You see the difference in how you feel.

00:35:49.780 Yeah.

00:35:49.980 I know if I don't sleep well, oh, I pay big time.

00:35:54.460 Yes.

00:36:06.920 Okay.

00:36:07.480 I'm so interested to hear about your perspective on cancer.

00:36:11.340 My mom went through breast cancer and thankfully she's healed now.

00:36:16.600 And she really changed how she ate, how she lived her life.

00:36:20.160 And she did a lot of what you're talking about.

00:36:21.920 She started looking at the food and not just like, okay, is it a salad versus a donut, but

00:36:26.900 really looking at the ingredients.

00:36:28.920 And I really think that helped her heal quickly.

00:36:32.240 She also did a few rounds of radiation, but she really wanted to be as natural as possible.

00:36:37.520 And so that kind of made me interested in how to fight back against cancer.

00:36:43.500 And I see a lot of different strategies and opinions out there.

00:36:46.780 Some who swear by veganism, some who swear by carnivore, some who swear by whatever else.

00:36:51.960 But tell us your big picture perspective on how to fight cancer.

00:36:55.800 Then we'll kind of get into the details.

00:36:57.200 Well, first of all, the cure for cancer is prevention.

00:37:01.400 So everyone today, since cancer rates are one in two people, should be focusing on prevention

00:37:08.100 and not whether or not you're going to get a diagnosis.

00:37:12.140 Okay.

00:37:12.560 Because cancer takes 10 years to develop from one cancer cell to tumor in the conventional

00:37:19.660 world takes about eight to 10 years.

00:37:21.720 I did not know that.

00:37:22.440 Okay.

00:37:22.800 So that means you have eight years of opportunity to prevent cancer.

00:37:28.400 So, but by the time it shows up on a, you know, ultrasound CT scan or something, it's

00:37:35.360 been there, started eight to 10 years ago.

00:37:38.000 So we had, like I said, we have eight, eight years to prevent.

00:37:42.120 We already know many, many things that, that lifestyle is what is the biggest contributor.

00:37:48.680 They did a study of 44,000 identical twins.

00:37:51.460 The single greatest determinant of whether they were going to get cancer was what they

00:37:55.660 ate and their lifestyle.

00:37:57.460 So we need to all really get conscious and mindful of how do we live each and every day.

00:38:05.280 All right.

00:38:05.900 What I talked about earlier, how much sleep, how much water, and you can't drink water now

00:38:11.680 out of the tap because it's all toxic.

00:38:14.060 Yeah.

00:38:14.360 So you have to have some kind of water purification system.

00:38:17.240 You have to eat foods that nourish, strengthen, and heal your body and mostly organic.

00:38:22.680 You have to move your body.

00:38:24.600 You have to really lighten your alcohol, not smoke, and get your stress under control.

00:38:31.420 Have wonderful friends around you and have that social element and have people who really

00:38:37.820 love you, care for you, and nourish, you know, your soul.

00:38:41.480 And so those things are, would be, you know, which is all things you can do yourself, right?

00:38:48.420 And so there's a book called Radical Remission, and, and these were all stage four cancer patients.

00:38:55.080 And eight out of the 10 things they did were things they did on their own.

00:38:58.980 So if you're diagnosed with cancer, so I would, first of all, need, you know, when you go

00:39:06.820 to any medical institution, they're going to tell you surgery, chemo, or radiation.

00:39:12.840 All right.

00:39:13.680 So like I said, this cancer didn't just start, but everyone should be taking a deep dive.

00:39:19.620 Why, where, when, and how this all happened.

00:39:22.120 And so, and really take a, you know, look at many different things, read many different

00:39:28.520 books, get people around you who can assist you and help you and show you all the different

00:39:34.420 ways.

00:39:35.000 But in this day and time, just taking the traditional approach is immunosuppressive and injurious.

00:39:42.180 Right.

00:39:42.640 And so, and not to mention, we have something called circulating tumor cells that actually

00:39:48.500 usually start before the cancer even starts.

00:39:52.780 So, you know, circulating tumor cells were discovered in 1948.

00:39:56.500 There's five articles a day on PubMed and no doctor even checks them because the laboratories

00:40:03.580 here in the United States, you know, there's one that we use, but it's, you know, so, so.

00:40:08.940 I prefer, I prefer other laboratories to assess circulating tumor cells.

00:40:14.600 So, you can't change, you can't get rid of cancer in a quick lumpectomy or a quick mastectomy.

00:40:23.480 Okay.

00:40:24.340 Right.

00:40:25.160 Because you didn't change the garden and the terrain came in.

00:40:29.220 And there's something called the tumor microenvironment.

00:40:32.700 What is the tumor microenvironment?

00:40:35.440 So Otto Warburg, a hundred years ago, said that cancer was an acidic, low oxygen, and sugar

00:40:43.880 environment.

00:40:45.560 And when I say sugar, it's basically an anaerobic glycolysis.

00:40:49.520 And what that means is the cells are replicating in a low oxygen environment and very inefficient.

00:40:57.580 Your normal cells are aerobic and make 36 ATP, which is your currency of life.

00:41:02.900 And a cancer is inefficient, only makes two ATP.

00:41:06.200 And so, again, so if you decide to do surgery, okay, what's going to happen to that tumor microenvironment?

00:41:14.060 Get worse, right?

00:41:15.100 Because a surgery is very hard on the body, okay?

00:41:20.400 You need to get yourself spiritually, emotionally, physically prepared to undergo a surgery.

00:41:27.200 Then, if you need to do chemo, what is chemotherapy?

00:41:32.840 A very, very serious toxin and can affect every single cell and every single system in the body.

00:41:40.300 Again, what does it do to the tumor microenvironment?

00:41:43.380 Make it worse, okay?

00:41:45.940 So, if you're doing chemotherapy, you must have this collateral protective plan so that

00:41:53.160 you can do your surgery, you can do the chemotherapy if need be.

00:41:57.520 I do chemotherapy in my office.

00:41:59.900 And then radiation, that has to be decided individually because radiation is immunosuppressive

00:42:07.620 and injurious too.

00:42:08.880 So, that has to have a good protective plan.

00:42:11.200 And so, it's weird, you know, like we prescribe these things and we don't think, what is it

00:42:19.300 doing to the patient and how am I harming you?

00:42:22.800 And what kind of protection should I give you?

00:42:26.200 And all doctors should think like this, right?

00:42:28.220 If I give you antibiotics, what does that do?

00:42:32.180 Well, that kills your microbiome, which is one of the most studied things now today.

00:42:37.620 Your microbiome is, you know, the bacterial universe that is bigger than your 50 trillion

00:42:42.980 cells.

00:42:44.000 And so, you take an antibiotic, you kill your entire microbiome, your entire forest of bacteria

00:42:50.580 that is 80% of your immune system.

00:42:53.560 And then what happens when you take antibiotics?

00:42:57.720 You risk growing yeast, which is fungus, all right?

00:43:02.640 So, that is a microorganism that contributes to inflammation in the body.

00:43:09.840 So, we want to make sure that that patient starts eating fermented food and taking good

00:43:15.060 probiotic and then assure that the patient doesn't develop yeast.

00:43:18.820 You know how like women will take an antibiotic, they get a yeast infection, right? 1.00

00:43:22.980 So, we need to make sure that what we've done to the patient, now they have created homeostasis

00:43:30.580 back again.

00:43:31.320 Right.

00:43:32.640 Right.

00:43:33.340 And what about vitamin C therapy and things like that for cancer?

00:43:38.940 Well, I, there's many, many magic bullets, okay?

00:43:42.940 There's not a magic bullet, there's lots of them.

00:43:45.760 And when you have cancer, because you have to think of cancer as, okay, if you have a billion

00:43:52.900 cells in a cancer tumor, they're all in their own universe.

00:43:57.460 So, cancer is very heterogeneous.

00:44:00.260 So, that means it's very multifaceted.

00:44:03.260 And so, using one thing usually doesn't work, right?

00:44:09.740 So, besides changing your lifestyle factors, you know, vitamin C is one thing, orally and

00:44:17.440 intravenously, it's been used many, many years.

00:44:20.680 Linus Pauling, who got the Nobel Prize for inventing the chemical bond, he talked about

00:44:25.760 the magic of vitamin C.

00:44:27.000 And then so many people after that have talked about oral vitamin C and IV vitamin C.

00:44:32.480 I would say vitamin C is probably the most important nutrient that every human needs to take because

00:44:39.020 it's the antidote to everything.

00:44:41.120 It's the antidote to heavy metals.

00:44:43.340 It's the antidote to chemicals and toxins in your environment.

00:44:46.600 It helps your immune system.

00:44:49.160 And it is, you know, incredibly helpful for neutralizing other microorganisms and everything

00:44:58.340 and helping you fight bugs.

00:45:00.700 So, I would say that's like something every man, woman, and child.

00:45:05.500 We're the only mammals who don't make our own vitamin C.

00:45:09.300 Every mammal manufactures their own vitamin C.

00:45:12.400 We're the only ones that don't.

00:45:14.120 Can you do it in food?

00:45:15.260 Yes, you can.

00:45:16.540 Lemons, lime, squeeze a whole lemon or lime, kiwis. 1.00

00:45:21.360 There's lots of things that have natural vitamin C.

00:45:25.400 So, yes, you can try to get all of your nutrients through food.

00:45:30.200 I mean, I check everybody's vitamins and minerals.

00:45:33.580 And so, I know what they're missing.

00:45:35.700 I'm not guessing.

00:45:36.860 I'm testing.

00:45:37.620 So, I'm figuring out which person need because all of your cells need lots of vitamins and

00:45:43.680 lots of minerals to work every day for you.

00:45:46.600 And it's almost impossible to get it eating food, you know, just regular food.

00:45:53.860 Or let's say you buy all organic.

00:45:55.520 I remember years ago, I had this young lady and she was in her 30s and she had a lymphoma.

00:46:04.160 And she told me her regimen every day that she did.

00:46:07.600 And I was like, whoa, this is impressive.

00:46:09.680 All the nutrients, all the herbs she took and everything.

00:46:12.120 And I did her nutrient assessment and I was like, whoa, this girl has so many nutrient

00:46:18.940 deficiencies.

00:46:19.980 So, it just goes to show you, you can't guess on those things.

00:46:24.940 And now, we have the ability to measure so many things in medicine.

00:46:29.280 So, we might as well do that because, like I said earlier, every person, every individual

00:46:35.780 is an original.

00:46:37.100 No two people are alike.

00:46:38.520 And how they respond to the universe is very different.

00:46:42.260 You know, you're not living in a petri dish where you're controlling the medium every day.

00:46:47.200 You're exposed to, you know, other people, the energy of other people, all the toxins in

00:46:53.920 whatever environment you're in, electromagnetic fields.

00:46:57.300 I mean, we're bombarded every single day with something new and different.

00:47:03.240 And so, like I read a study last weekend that they examined the heavy metals and infant formulas.

00:47:10.760 And 20 of them, all 20 that tested, had heavy metals.

00:47:14.640 Now, to get a formula registered and okay to be used for a baby is very, very rigorous.

00:47:22.560 And so, they all had heavy metals.

00:47:25.500 You're like, what, you're giving your baby heavy metals?

00:47:28.460 And what are heavy metals?

00:47:29.340 Heavy metals.

00:47:30.140 Okay.

00:47:30.840 So, heavy metals are like mercury, cadmium, aluminum.

00:47:35.600 And they're toxic for the body.

00:47:37.460 They're toxic.

00:47:38.120 There's no, the EPA says there's no safe level of any heavy metal.

00:47:42.560 Even like aluminum and deodorant.

00:47:45.040 Oh, no.

00:47:45.500 You should never use them.

00:47:46.280 Well, I don't.

00:47:47.020 I don't.

00:47:47.480 But it's, well, how are they able, like how is secret able to have deodorant with aluminum in it if the FDA says that there's no, you know, healthy level?

00:47:57.580 Yeah, but there's no real chicken.

00:47:59.820 Okay.

00:48:00.120 Look how many things when you go to the grocery store.

00:48:02.040 Look how many toxins are on the shelves.

00:48:04.020 Right.

00:48:04.740 Okay.

00:48:05.300 Yeah.

00:48:05.520 That's why I said you have to become a forensic food scientist.

00:48:09.280 You need to become a chemist.

00:48:10.820 And now there's so many different things that you can.

00:48:14.180 There's environmental working group that shows everything that's toxic.

00:48:17.620 So, there's so many different things.

00:48:19.480 There's Think Dirty. 1.00

00:48:20.360 It's another app.

00:48:21.580 There's all these different apps now that show you what's in things.

00:48:26.380 Okay.

00:48:26.520 I mean, we're talking everything.

00:48:28.860 Everything.

00:48:29.640 Yeah.

00:48:29.800 And so, formula, all these heavy metals exist in the formula.

00:48:33.340 Right.

00:48:33.680 And then they tested baby food too.

00:48:36.260 Organic and non-organic, 100% had heavy metals.

00:48:40.180 Wow.

00:48:41.180 Okay.

00:48:41.560 Well, what do heavy metals do to the body?

00:48:43.720 They interfere with your DNA replication.

00:48:46.660 They block the Krebs cycle of energy, which is how your body makes ATP.

00:48:51.880 So, I see when we test, because we test probably almost everybody for heavy metals.

00:48:57.740 I've not seen anyone that doesn't have heavy metals.

00:49:03.280 So, we're all in the same boat because we're all being exposed to what the world has today.

00:49:10.220 But, you know, unfortunately, this is the world we're living in, okay, where things, we utilize things without a check and balance.

00:49:20.160 Right.

00:49:20.380 Okay.

00:49:21.480 And so, you, I always tell people, self-care is the new health care.

00:49:28.540 You taking charge and responsibility and accountability for your own life, I would say education, education, educate yourself on what is going on and what you can do for yourself.

00:49:41.240 Because, as you know, health has to be our number one value.

00:49:44.820 If we don't have our health, we don't have anything.

00:49:47.300 You can't be a good mother, you can't be a good sister, you can't be a good daughter, and you can't be good at what you do, and you can't be a good wife. 0.94

00:49:55.760 Yeah.

00:49:56.180 Right?

00:49:56.740 Yeah.

00:49:56.920 So, everything hinges on your ability to be healthy.

00:50:00.360 And so, we all need to make that front and center, and that's what you need to teach your children.

00:50:05.700 I'm guessing that you don't think too highly of aspects of the so-called body positivity movement

00:50:27.800 that are not really positive about the body when you think about it because they're really encouraging in a lot of ways being unhealthy and being slothful and eating whatever you want to.

00:50:39.100 I'm not saying that everyone needs to look the same to be beautiful, but there is a message out there today that there's really no one way to be healthy,

00:50:47.180 and being morbidly obese is totally fine if that's how you want to live your life.

00:50:53.460 There is kind of this relativistic message out there today that claims to be body positive, but really, I think it's encouraging a lot of toxic behavior that harms us.

00:51:06.780 Right.

00:51:07.480 Well, as we all know, there's rules and laws of Mother Nature. 0.92

00:51:12.020 I didn't write them.

00:51:13.060 You didn't either.

00:51:13.780 But we do know how the body works and what is going to create the best outcome.

00:51:19.580 Okay.

00:51:19.980 There's something called evidence-based medicine.

00:51:22.440 There's observational medicine.

00:51:23.920 We can see if we do these things, we have better outcomes.

00:51:28.180 Okay.

00:51:28.540 We know that if you're obese, your increased risk for mostly all diseases, including cancer.

00:51:35.340 I mean, 40% of the population is obese.

00:51:39.180 And we know that creates, you know, lower brain function isn't as good, increased risk of fatty liver.

00:51:48.600 We know increased risk of cancer, increased risk of hormone problems, because the adipose organ, the fat organ, acts as an organ in and of itself,

00:52:01.700 creating inflammation and metabolic molecules that your body has to process.

00:52:06.880 So your body is working so hard to take care of you.

00:52:11.260 I had never heard of that.

00:52:13.260 Yeah.

00:52:13.600 So it's not a matter of, you know, what we want to accept, you know.

00:52:22.020 It's we want to create order in your human universe.

00:52:26.080 That is what we want to do. 0.86

00:52:27.880 And we know that you are morbidly obese.

00:52:30.160 Your body is not in order.

00:52:32.660 We know that.

00:52:33.640 Okay.

00:52:33.920 Just like you talked about sleep.

00:52:36.520 Not sleeping will create disorder.

00:52:38.800 Correct.

00:52:39.700 Okay.

00:52:40.380 Eating poorly.

00:52:41.460 What was that movie long time ago?

00:52:43.200 Super Size Me.

00:52:44.300 Okay.

00:52:44.540 They did an experiment for just 30 days.

00:52:46.740 All right.

00:52:47.620 So, you know, I love the fact that everybody wants to accept all these things, but it's not that.

00:52:56.080 It is, I want the very best for you and you want the very best for me.

00:53:00.120 And that's what we should all want, is what is the very best for us.

00:53:04.800 Okay.

00:53:05.360 Now, I know people say, oh, I have my own way of thinking about that.

00:53:08.780 But, again, we want to do what we know is going to create the best version of yourself.

00:53:18.740 Mm-hmm.

00:53:19.780 Right.

00:53:20.500 Right.

00:53:21.340 I saw that you posted that there's a study that shows the increase in specifically colorectal cancer for young people, right, has just skyrocketed in the last 10 to 20 years.

00:53:33.280 It used to be that that was a type of cancer that was reserved for very old people.

00:53:38.400 Really, all types of cancer used to be more just an old person problem.

00:53:43.520 But that's becoming less and less true.

00:53:45.960 What do you make of that study?

00:53:47.040 Right.

00:53:48.160 Well, yeah, I did talk about that, too, because it's interesting.

00:53:52.960 So the guidelines for colorectal cancer is to get a colonoscopy when you're 50.

00:54:00.580 Well, now, because of the increase in young people, 35 years of age, 40 years of age, are getting cancer, they lowered it to 45.

00:54:08.660 And I'm like, oh, well, you're going to miss all those people less than 45.

00:54:12.540 So, but if you look at what people do today, you know, they're not eating the right foods.

00:54:18.960 They're eating foods with lots of chemicals and toxins and seed oils and, you know, most of them are probably deficient in vitamins and minerals.

00:54:28.700 And seed oils inflame the body, make it harder to fight toxins.

00:54:34.420 So it boils down to the cell.

00:54:36.580 Everything boils down to each cell.

00:54:38.320 There's 50 trillion cells.

00:54:39.840 So every cell has something called a membrane.

00:54:42.800 Okay.

00:54:43.000 So the membrane has something called essential fatty acids.

00:54:46.380 They're called essential because you have to have them, omega-3s, 6s, and 9s.

00:54:50.100 And so that magical membrane is made up of essential fatty acids and something called phosphatylcholine.

00:54:56.780 And phosphatylcholine is the cement and the bricks.

00:55:00.980 The bricks are, I mean, the essential fatty acids are the bricks and the phosphatylcholine is cement.

00:55:05.720 So everything happens on that.

00:55:07.480 I call it the magical membrane.

00:55:08.980 There's over 30,000 receptor sites for everything to work, for all your hormones, all your signaling to take place.

00:55:17.040 And so if you have seed oils, it's gumming up that membrane.

00:55:21.360 Okay.

00:55:22.560 And it just makes it harder for the body to function.

00:55:24.540 Yes.

00:55:25.100 And so it's interfering on a cellular level, the functionality.

00:55:29.140 Well, cells make up organs and glands.

00:55:31.400 So that's one of the reasons why we're seeing a higher number of these cases of cancers that used to just be in older people.

00:55:41.420 Right.

00:55:41.840 Because of, you know, what they're eating and then the ingestion, I think, of toxins.

00:55:46.340 And also, you know, I'll bring up something that most people don't even think about is parasites.

00:55:53.260 You know, parasites, all bugs can contribute to the scenario of cancer. 0.67

00:55:57.980 And so American doctors don't think you can have parasites.

00:56:02.200 And so because we have this clean, sterile society, right?

00:56:07.000 But, of course, not if you eat sushi.

00:56:09.320 I remember years ago I went to a sushi cooking class.

00:56:13.200 And so they had the fillets of meat on the table.

00:56:17.040 And so I asked the instructor, I said, oh, what is that lighter version on that fish over there?

00:56:23.320 After he had, you know, taken the skin off and made the fillets, he goes, oh, that's parasites.

00:56:28.240 We just cut them off.

00:56:29.080 I went, oh, my gosh.

00:56:30.900 So parasites, you know, I was taught by the American Academy of Gastroenterologists.

00:56:37.800 He's the physician that lectures on parasites.

00:56:40.880 And so one day at dinner 25 years ago, we were talking.

00:56:45.840 He was telling me and teaching me how he diagnosed parasites.

00:56:48.620 And I'm like, wow, I'm not even addressing that in my practice.

00:56:52.980 Like, I need to learn this.

00:56:54.580 And so now I took what he taught me and now, you know, have gone down the extreme way to diagnose and treat parasites.

00:57:04.100 So it's something that, you know, again, is one of the contributing causes to cancer.

00:57:11.240 So, you know, cancer isn't just one disturbances.

00:57:14.320 It's the perfect storm that's creating this chaotic environment.

00:57:24.580 You mentioned at the beginning the Hippocratic Oath, which says, first, do no harm.

00:57:37.060 It doesn't seem like that is the highest priority today in most of the medical world.

00:57:43.820 Would you agree with that?

00:57:44.760 I would agree with that because doctors are taught a very indoctrinated version of medicine.

00:57:54.020 And so when you're taught in medical school, you're taught, you know, how the body works.

00:58:00.140 Then the pharmacology that you use on the diagnosis you're making.

00:58:06.080 And then you may need surgery in some cases if it's a diseased organ.

00:58:10.760 And then, you know, you just follow the patient and wait till the next thing happens, right?

00:58:18.220 So there's no cancer.

00:58:19.700 I mean, cancer.

00:58:21.760 Patient care should be preventive, proactive, precise, and personalized.

00:58:27.160 Period.

00:58:27.840 End of story.

00:58:29.320 And your day as a physician would be a lot easier if you just optimize patients.

00:58:35.900 Think how much easier a doctor's day and just think how much easier the patient's life is.

00:58:42.140 I know that I, 50% of the cancer patients I see are stage four.

00:58:47.860 Wow.

00:58:48.460 And a lot of them have already done everything.

00:58:50.840 Some of them come to me in the beginning.

00:58:53.460 Some of them come to me in the middle.

00:58:55.680 And of course, if anyone had their druthers, they would say,

00:58:59.360 I'd do anything and everything to have prevented this in the first place.

00:59:02.920 Correct?

00:59:03.140 And so I just, when I see these cases, and unfortunately, you know, when you're 30 and 35,

00:59:12.300 you don't think cancer's in your life.

00:59:15.040 Right.

00:59:15.520 Okay?

00:59:16.140 Because, like we thought, I used to say, that people had a warranty until they're 40.

00:59:21.500 And then 40 to 60, you're on the semi-warranty plan.

00:59:24.540 And then 60 up is pure repair, upkeep, and maintenance.

00:59:27.020 But now I can't say that because I have so many young people who have not just cancer, but they have Lyme disease.

00:59:36.840 They have pre-diabetes and diabetes is the majority of the population.

00:59:42.000 They say that 93% of people are metabolically unhealthy.

00:59:46.040 So that means their, you know, insulin and sugar is not good.

00:59:49.960 All right?

00:59:50.660 And they have all of these autoimmune and all kinds of, you know, diseases.

00:59:56.600 And, you know, like how are you going to live life with that kind of compromise and challenge to the body?

01:00:06.160 And it's very stressful to be sick, right?

01:00:10.480 I know that my patients get scan anxiety.

01:00:15.240 They get, you know, I had a patient, their daughter had died from cancer.

01:00:21.800 So she's like, I don't want to do any conventional treatments.

01:00:24.180 Yeah.

01:00:24.860 So I see the entire realm, but they have a lot of PTSD from being diagnosed and from the system.

01:00:33.020 And then, like we talked about earlier, doctors don't have the time to really sit down, discuss everything.

01:00:41.400 And then if a doctor has only in his toolkit conventional medical approach, you know, they're not going to talk about, well, tell me how your stress is, Allie.

01:00:53.560 You know, let's talk about that, you know.

01:00:55.780 And so, which is stress, you know, some people say that stress is the number one killer, okay?

01:01:03.000 But, you know, how do you live your life every day?

01:01:06.480 Tell me what you eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

01:01:09.380 How are you moving?

01:01:10.480 Do you work with chemicals all day?

01:01:13.320 You know, what is your job?

01:01:14.620 You know, is your stress, you know, outrageously stressful?

01:01:17.800 You know, so, you know, the doctor doesn't have that time, you know.

01:01:22.660 But if you look at, if you just Google stress and cancer, it will, you'll have plenty to read.

01:01:29.600 But I've never met a patient where the doctor told the patient they need to change their eating and they need to address their stress.

01:01:36.920 I've never met a patient, okay?

01:01:38.580 Because I always ask the patient, so what was your experience with the doctor?

01:01:42.820 What did they tell you, what did they tell you your options are, and which is, I always explain to patients all of their options of what they should do.

01:01:52.240 But I said it, you have to make the choice with educated decision.

01:01:57.800 Right, right.

01:01:59.180 Wow.

01:01:59.880 So, for someone listening to this, they're like, okay, I want that.

01:02:03.520 I want a doctor who will listen to me, who will talk to me, but they don't even know where to start.

01:02:07.960 They don't live, you know, where you do in California.

01:02:11.200 They just don't know who to go to.

01:02:13.300 Do you have a recommendation for how they can move into the right direction and find someone who will test for all these things?

01:02:19.860 Well, first of all, I think everybody should start reading, you know, get different books, okay?

01:02:26.340 I've written my books, but there's lots of good books out there, Allie.

01:02:29.800 That's number one.

01:02:30.960 First of all, so they know even what maybe to look for, right?

01:02:35.460 And then try to find a functional integrative medical doctor.

01:02:39.780 And I say medical doctor because a medical doctor knows, okay, does Allie have something serious or is it something that is not going to require, you know, a tremendous amount of research and investigation, right?

01:02:56.740 Because our job is to make sure that you don't have anything serious and wrong, all right?

01:03:02.560 Whether it's hypertension, high sugar, autoimmune diseases, or anything.

01:03:07.660 So there are more and more doctors now are opening their eyes.

01:03:13.640 I know that since COVID, I've had so many doctors contact me and say, oh my gosh, now I see.

01:03:23.260 And, you know, they've been awakened and enlightened.

01:03:25.580 Can you help me learn about X, Y, Z?

01:03:29.300 And so there's lots of education available out there.

01:03:34.000 I do a cancer conversation and everything else every two weeks online.

01:03:38.200 And because I want everyone to know what we know at our clinic, what we're doing, and then try to find a functional integrative doctor, you know, go and interview the doctor and see if it's someone that is compatible with you and can incorporate and collaborate with you to the best, you know, for what you need.

01:03:58.580 And like you said, you have to be knowledgeable before you can do that because you have to know what to ask them.

01:04:04.080 And I know you said there's lots of books, but you did write The Cancer Revolution, a groundbreaking program to reverse and prevent cancer and be perfectly healthy.

01:04:12.520 And I follow you on Instagram.

01:04:14.880 And I would say that's also a good place for people to start, to follow you on Instagram, buy your books.

01:04:21.480 I know that that's not what you're saying, that people have to do that, but I want people to do that.

01:04:26.240 I'm encouraging people to do that.

01:04:28.580 And we have them, by the way.

01:04:30.020 These are two of your books, and I'm guessing you can get them wherever books are sold, right?

01:04:34.780 So they could start there.

01:04:36.000 Also, I just typed in, just to see, I just typed in functional integrative medical doctor near me.

01:04:43.320 And I had several pop up.

01:04:45.860 And of course, I would have to look into them and see if they're what I'm looking for.

01:04:49.120 They also, you can go to ifm.org, that's instituteforfunctionalmedicine.org.

01:04:55.340 And not every doctor that's listed may be the right fit for what you're looking for, but that's at least a good place to start.

01:05:03.680 And I really go back to the beginning of your story.

01:05:06.460 I think something that, to me, sets you apart from a lot of doctors I know is you talked about when your patients would come in and they'd bring you studies and you would say, wow, I want to learn more about that.

01:05:17.780 I think every patient out there has had the experience with the doctor where as soon as we bring up research, they roll their eyes.

01:05:23.660 Like, you didn't go to medical school.

01:05:26.300 You don't know what you're talking about.

01:05:27.860 I'm not even going to look at your research.

01:05:30.220 But I wish all doctors were like you and said, okay, the research is out there.

01:05:35.280 I want to know about it.

01:05:37.000 Right.

01:05:37.320 You're right.

01:05:37.980 Patients tell me that all the time.

01:05:40.340 The doctor doesn't want to listen at all.

01:05:42.960 But what doctor knows everything?

01:05:45.680 And there's 8 billion people.

01:05:47.260 Think about what we don't know, right?

01:05:49.700 And think about it.

01:05:50.620 I always tell patients that U.S. is 5% of the population, world population, 5%.

01:05:56.900 We use 66% of the world drugs.

01:06:00.600 That means what are all the other doctors around the world using to help people?

01:06:05.720 Wow.

01:06:06.120 Yeah.

01:06:06.580 Okay.

01:06:07.120 So we're just seeing our little perspective in the United States and the doctor in the United States is only seeing there.

01:06:14.180 What about all the doctors in Europe and China and, you know, Germany, all the countries?

01:06:20.640 I mean, they are doing.

01:06:22.400 I know because I work with doctors all over the world.

01:06:24.660 I love that I have those relationships.

01:06:27.060 I had recently, the last three weeks, I had a new doctor from Brazil reach out and said, oh, can I come and work with you for a couple weeks?

01:06:35.220 And that's what he did.

01:06:36.260 And I said, absolutely, come and visit.

01:06:38.040 So I was talking to him about the medical care in Brazil compared to USA.

01:06:43.420 And so they have functional medicine, for example, in Brazil.

01:06:47.220 But you want, going back to your questions, how would you find, you want a doctor who really knows how to do all of it, not someone who just specializes in autoimmune or thyroid.

01:06:57.740 Because, you know, you don't go to a car dealership and say, you know, I just want the wheels.

01:07:02.860 Right.

01:07:03.260 So you want someone who can look at you holistic.

01:07:07.840 Because it's all connected.

01:07:08.960 Yeah, it's all connected.

01:07:11.160 And so, you know, just treating part of you.

01:07:13.880 And I'm not saying those doctors aren't good, but we also need to look at every single thing that's going on with you.

01:07:22.280 Down to the cellular level, right?

01:07:24.220 Yes, exactly.

01:07:25.380 So, you know, doctors have to go back to school and they say they don't have time and energy.

01:07:31.380 And if you're a young doctor, you have school loans to pay back.

01:07:34.920 And so you're just trying to survive.

01:07:37.040 You're married, maybe have a couple of kids.

01:07:39.100 You're just going to, you know, be, you know, trying to get through the day, much less learn.

01:07:44.220 But what I find, one of my friends, he's an acquaintance because he now is into functional integrative medicine and he just wrote a book.

01:07:54.060 And I said, how did you get into this?

01:07:57.300 He goes, I had four chronic diseases.

01:07:59.760 And so that's how doctors are changing things.

01:08:05.660 Okay.

01:08:06.020 It's not enough yet.

01:08:07.940 And there's a lot of, I believe, cognitive dissonance.

01:08:11.160 Like you said, the doctors don't like what you may be giving me something vital that I need to know.

01:08:16.980 I can't discount it.

01:08:18.300 Right.

01:08:18.620 I could spend a minute and a minute, you can get quite a bit of information.

01:08:24.140 And so my patients bring in, oh, yesterday I had a patient who came in.

01:08:29.180 He was the chief marketing officer for a nutraceutical company.

01:08:34.260 He brought in 20 pages of every cancer mechanism and what natural thing worked on it.

01:08:41.640 So I'm like, okay, this guy really knows.

01:08:44.540 I said, you've done an amazing job.

01:08:46.740 So you can't, and those are scientific studies, you know, that have been done.

01:08:51.860 For example, on curcumin or broccoli extract or vitamin C or epigenin that's made in celery.

01:08:59.000 So there are, you know, there are, if a doctor went and just looked up a clinical study, he or she would find it.

01:09:06.880 Right.

01:09:07.200 I always think I'm not going to find it.

01:09:09.080 And sure enough, I'm like, oh, wow, look at this.

01:09:11.780 It's right here.

01:09:12.740 It's there.

01:09:13.300 You know, how lycopene from tomatoes fights cancer, right?

01:09:16.660 Yeah.

01:09:17.080 Yeah.

01:09:17.560 And for you, getting out of the whole insurance scheme kind of also gave you a little bit more margin to be able to study.

01:09:23.900 Because like you said, so many doctors feel like they're just getting by because they have to spend so much time on the insurance stuff, which is probably why they're also not studying.

01:09:31.460 So it's like a whole system-wide structural issue that we have.

01:09:37.960 We're in a big conundrum and a lot of doctors see this, feel it, and know it.

01:09:43.680 Yeah.

01:09:44.100 Which is why, as you said, the best thing that we can do right now is to become scientists ourselves and to become advocates and researchers and interviewers and preventers when it comes to our health.

01:09:58.820 And so thank you for the part that you've played in helping us do that and for advocating on our behalf.

01:10:06.460 I really appreciate it.

01:10:07.540 I do encourage everyone to follow her on Instagram.

01:10:10.140 It's been helpful to me.

01:10:11.480 Thank you so much.

01:10:12.700 You're welcome.

01:10:13.360 Thank you for having me.

01:10:28.820 Thank you.

01:10:42.380 Thank you.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 26, 2024

Ep 1026 ｜ The Secret to Preventing Cancer ｜ Guest： Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy

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