Ep 1035 ｜ Katy Perry & the Death of Cringe Feminism ｜ Guests： Rachel Holt & Chris Wallin
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Summary
Katy Perry has a new song out that s supposed to be a feminist anthem, but it s really a flop. We ve got a take on this cringe fest on today s episode of Relatable, but we are also showcasing an actually amazing song. Rachel Holt and Chris Wallen are performing their new pro-life song, "I Was Gonna Be." Make sure you have your tissues ready.
Transcript
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Katy Perry has a new song out that's supposed to be some kind of feminist anthem, but it's
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We've got a take on this cringe fest on today's episode of Relatable, but we are also showcasing
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They are performing their new pro-life song, I Was Gonna Be.
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You're gonna cry, but it's really, really beautiful and profound.
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We've got all of that and more on today's episode of Relatable.
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It's brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers.
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Man, oh man, I am just kind of exhausted by the new cycle right now.
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The information that is coming out with every single bit of breaking news, it seems like
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you're having to interrupt talking about breaking news to talk about more breaking news, and then
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you have to interrupt that to talk about more breaking news.
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I'm curious if y'all feel tired by the news cycle, tired by the just onslaught of breaking
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news, or if you feel like this insatiable hunger to know everything that's going on.
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I started with the insatiable hunger, and now I've kind of crashed.
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I feel like I've kind of been on adrenaline for the past few days, and now I am very tired
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And so we're going to take a little bit of a break from talking about politics today.
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I'll just give you a little bit of a summary of everything that's going on.
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We talked about Monday and yesterday, what happened over the weekend with President Trump,
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We talked about the RNC yesterday, some of the changes to the Republican platform, some
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of the speakers that were platformed at the RNC, what to make of all of that.
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A lot of you have been asking me, what did I think about the Sikh prayer?
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We did talk about that yesterday, so you can go check that out if you want to know my thoughts
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I caught some of the highlights of some of the speeches yesterday.
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There's not really that much for me to analyze for you, but there were some really good, powerful
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There was a speech from a mom of a man who was killed in New York City, and then his murders
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were let off the hook by a corrupt prosecutor, Alvin Bragg.
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There was a mom of a young person who was killed by a fentanyl overdose.
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Of course, that links to the open border policies that are pushed by Democrats.
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There was a really powerful speech by Nikki Haley coming out in full support of Donald Trump.
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There was also a powerful speech by Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the governor of Arkansas.
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She is so well-loved by the Republican Party, by Trump's campaign, because she has been a big
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supporter of the president since she was press secretary.
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And also, she is just very loved by the people of Arkansas because she's doing an amazing,
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I loved how she balanced, y'all should go watch the speech.
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It's a pretty short speech, but it really packed a punch.
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I loved how she balanced supporting President Trump and encouraging President Trump, talking
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about his accomplishments and his strength while dovetailing that with what she has accomplished
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Of course, there's going to be a lot of disagreement about the new platform of the Republican Party
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and the kinds of people that the Republican Party is bringing in to its tent.
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But yesterday, as far as a political convention goes, I thought that it was pretty good and
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the message from Republicans was pretty strong.
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That's all I got to say about that's all I got to say about politics for now.
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We're going to talk tomorrow again about something political, the law that was passed in California
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regarding kids who are confused about their gender.
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But today, we're going to talk about some pop culture stuff, y'all.
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She has not crossed my mind in a very long time.
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Actually, I was first reintroduced to her existence when I watched American Idol.
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I had not watched an episode of American Idol since I don't know when that was, when Kelly
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I think, okay, if it was 2000, then I would have been in second, third grade, I think.
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I was like sitting on my parents' bed and I remember calling my friend on the landline
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and being like, oh my gosh, I still remember that song that she sang and exactly what it
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And then I watched it a couple months ago when I was reintroduced to Katy Perry.
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And I was very disappointed to find that the judges on American Idol are now so incredibly
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There's not even anything close to Simon Cowell.
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Now, I think that there could be a balance between Simon Cowell wanting you to die in front
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of him on stage and then what we see from the judges now, which is like, oh, you can do
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And so I think there could be a little bit of a balance.
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But Katy Perry, she is a judge on American Idol, but that's not all she's doing.
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So I think that's wonderful with Orlando Bloom.
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But now she's coming out with some trash music.
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She does have a beautiful voice, but the values behind the song and then who's behind it,
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So she's got a new feminist anthem called Woman's World.
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And we can't even play you the chorus because it's risque.
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And I'm certainly not asking you to go watch the music video, but I'll just give you a
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I heard it, but with the auto tune and what is that?
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Just look around and you'll discover, you know, it's a woman's world and you're lucky
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It's a woman's world and you're lucky to be living in it.
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You better celebrate because baby, we ain't going away.
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It's a woman's world and you're lucky to be living in it.
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Oh, let me just do verse two and then we'll talk about it.
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We couldn't think of anything else that women are born to do.
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You know you're smart if you're rhyming thorn with one.
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Just look around and you'll discover, you know, it's a woman's world.
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I'd just like to note that it took five people to write this song.
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Well, when you're rhyming thorn with one and women are born to shine and to shine and also
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Do you think Katy Perry, did she have a hand in writing this?
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She's a co-writer, but I have a feeling that she just bought the song.
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Like they had already written it and she bought it, which is what a lot of pop stars do.
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Like for example, sometimes a 32 year old mama here will just go on the, you know, hot charts
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on Spotify, whatever it's called and just like listen to some of the songs so I can like
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understand what the kids are listening to these days.
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So I have heard of someone named Sabrina Carber.
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Like I could, I probably only listened to it once and I could probably sing you that
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Even though the lyrics are like, I don't know, room temperature IQ.
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So I don't, I think that, I think it's catchy because it's been stuck in my head for days.
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You're going to hear it like a couple of times on the radio or something and it's not going
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But no, it's super catchy, but I don't think it's catchy in the way that I'm like, oh,
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Like, like catching a cold, that kind of thing, something that you don't want, but you're
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Doesn't it kind of seem like it was written by AI?
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was, and they didn't even copy edit it.
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Well, uh, the media has something to say about this and about Katy Perry in general.
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And we're not just talking about the song because it's bad.
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There's, uh, some interesting aspects of, uh, the song that people are pointing out
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Bri, can you tell us this woman's world song that's supposed to be a feminist anthem that's
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supposed to make you and I feel really empowered?
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Uh, who, who wrote this song and why is that significant?
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So there were six, I guess six writers actually.
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Oh, so more than half, um, are male for a woman's world.
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Um, also outside of the writers, uh, the music video, which we can talk more about, um, was
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The producers of the song, the three male producers, three male producers.
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So there are women that worked on it too, but the majority of the people who worked on
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And he was the one that Kesha accused of sexual abuse, right?
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So, and so on this feminist anthem, not only is it mostly headed up by men, also by a pretty
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And a lot of people are pointing this out online, that this is just very hypocritical.
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This is originally why when she teased the song, people already were giving it flack because,
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because she produced it because Dr. Luke produced it.
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He was in the news a couple of years ago because of the Kesha thing.
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You would just think that she would have been able to find someone who wasn't accused of
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Are there no women in this women's world that can produce this?
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Well, the cut has a personal vendetta, it seems like, against Katy Perry.
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I don't even know if I follow the cut, but Instagram decided to show it to me.
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And the cut is an outlet, an online news outlet, and it discusses pop culture.
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And here's the title of the article, Katy Perry is stuck in 2016, which explains why the pop
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This caption just goes in, just goes in on Katy Perry.
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We used to know who Katy Perry was over a decade ago in the aftermath of the great recession.
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Perry satisfied our national appetite for youth frivolity and hedonism.
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Well, Katy's back and everything about the rollout for her new album, 143 reeks of desperation.
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What the streams reveal, vacant lyrics, ill-advised guests, very obvious samples, an album that
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What people want from Katy Perry is fantasy, escapism, woman's world.
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The lead single out today comes off so forgettable, so cringe that it overshadows the blatant hypocrisy
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Um, there are some other quotes from the article.
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She says, she's a proud liberal who wears persist armbands to the Grammys and remains committed
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to empowerment politics, even though its integration into her music, purposeful pop, as she branded
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Duh, because as this person noted, people want escapism.
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People don't want politics from someone like Katy Perry.
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Um, most of all, she's a 2010s relic, a faded pop star, frantically attempting to clamor back
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to relevance, only to be thwarted by her inability to tell up from down.
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Did you know that she also released an album during the pandemic?
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Perry is like Barbie in Barbie land, stuck in la-di-da dimension in which Hillary Clinton
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is still the Democratic presidential nominee, male tears mugs, make bank on Etsy, and the
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most transgressive thing a celebrity can do is sing fight song.
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Whenever I see it on X, it pops up every few months.
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People don't, might not know what I'm talking about.
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It's like a montage of all these different celebrities, some who can sing and some who
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can't, singing the different lines of fight song in support of Hillary Clinton.
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I'm just, I'm still just trying to calculate how in the world she lost after that.
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I mean, if you have Jesse Tyler Ferguson singing fight song, it had to be Putin that got Trump
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But I think this is actually such an accurate read on this song.
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And it's interesting to hear this from a liberal perspective that they understand that that's
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That that brand of liberal is actually very cringe.
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And I know that Katy Perry is not even trying to be a part of this whole conversation, but
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my husband and I have been talking about how conservatism is changing.
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Like the right, the left, the dynamics are shifting to where the right now encompasses
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a lot of people, includes a lot of people that are considered by the mainstream.
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And I'm talking like barstool kind of conservatives.
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I don't know if you consider him cool, but he's like pro Donald Trump.
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I'm not saying that they call themselves conservative, but they're not liberals like, or they don't
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We've got this kind of like new edgy, secular, probably still liberal, socially UFC, Theo Vaughn
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type people who now are kind of like a subset of the right, whether they call themselves that
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And this like Hillary Clinton fight song, I'm woman, hear me roar brand of liberalism
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is seen now as really cringe and dorky, which is why I think you even have a lot of Gen
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Z, especially Gen Z males being like, oh my gosh, like feminism and all that stuff.
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And Trump is almost seen as cool now, which is such a shift.
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I mean, especially due to the events of the past couple of weeks, well, his being indicted,
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He just keeps doing things that people are like, okay, I kind of see it now.
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And we talked about, I think it was yesterday that people are like starting to be less and
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less ashamed to wear MAGA hats in public, which is crazy.
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I was kind of surprised to see like someone on the left call this cringe.
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And I wonder, I do wonder if the song was written like in 2016.
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And she was just like, this is a, this is a pop song and I'm going to release it now.
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I'm going to do something that is maybe a little bit dangerous.
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Can we have an objective conversation about Taylor Swift for a second?
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We are not even talking about any personal support of Taylor Swift.
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So you can all still hold your views about her being a witch and all of that.
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I think that we can objectively say though, and Brie is saying this objectively too, anyone
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can say that she has become a lot more successful than Katy Perry.
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And so I, it's interesting to think how she has somehow grown her popularity and she has
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kind of grown with the times while also still trying to infuse her liberalism, sometimes
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And most people, I mean, the people who love her, of course, don't see her as cringe.
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Although when she does talk politics, it is super cringe.
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But somehow she's been able to find that balance and someone like Katy Perry hasn't, she hasn't
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I don't even know what exactly it is, but I don't know when Taylor Swift does it, it's
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like interesting and people still want to listen to the music.
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Well, I will say, I mean, clearly Taylor Swift is a better writer just in general than probably
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anyone who wrote this song, but in, I think it was 2017, maybe it's 2019 when she came
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up with the song, The Man, which I was thinking about when I listened to this, which is a stupid
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She's saying, if I was a man, I would be more successful.
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It's like, you're the most successful person in the world.
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It's like when Beyonce's saying, if I were a boy.
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Well, it's also specifically with Taylor Swift, she's famous because she was relatable to
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But if she released that now, I think she would get the same, the same reaction.
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I mean, I think it's maybe not as bad of a song, but still, I think she also learns her
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I think people, even then we're like, this is kind of dumb and not true.
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So I saw that people freaked out the other day because part of, even I know this as someone
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I saw a clip going around of her concert where she seems to say F the patriarchy.
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And she, it was like, Oh, they, she has all these children like screaming that I'm obviously
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I'm not condoning like the use of that phrase or that word at all, but that is a part of her
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I don't know if it's just a part of the 10 minute version or the part of the short version
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And she's talking about like Jake Dillon Hall, right?
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But, and she's saying it was like hypocritical because he had this key chain saying F the
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The whole song is about how she was too young for him and he took advantage of her and he was
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And yeah, she's referencing the fact that he's a hypocrite for having that on his key
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Like, I don't agree with using the phrase at all.
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The majority of them weren't kids, but, but yeah.
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So in this music video, the, the funny thing is, is that they have women acting like men.
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They've got women peeing in urinals or like pretending to pee in a urinal.
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And I'm like, okay, wait, why do women have to act like men in order to be powerful?
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What you're saying is that we, like you, we have to do things that we literally don't do in order to be powerful.
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So it's not actually enough to be a woman and to do the things that are unique to us.
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We have to have this fantasy where women are working on construction sites.
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I mean, rarely, but I would say it's probably 98% men, at least on those construction sites.
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I don't understand why a urinal has to be a part of this conversation at all.
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Ed Krasenstein said that the right is triggered because we don't like women peeing in a urinal.
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What other visuals did we have in this music video?
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Well, that, the construction part is just the first part.
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And then she puts up a, like, a pill bottle and does a little, like, she's doing an ad read or something.
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So it's, I think it's supposed to be kind of like tongue, like she's selling vitamins or something.
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So I think it's supposed to be, like, tongue-in-cheek, like, Instagram culture or whatever.
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And then the second half of the video is her, like, walking around in a half, like, as a cyborg.
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And she goes up to an Instagram influencer and steals her camera and then runs away in a helicopter.
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Hopefully we can start producing better things as a culture, right?
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And actually, at the end of this episode, we are going to hear a song that is part of the better part of the culture,
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the culture building that is actually going on that is representing really good values.
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Let's talk briefly, Brie, about this new dinosaur discovery, so-called, by the Wall Street Journal.
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If anyone is new to this podcast, you might not know that we have consistent conversations about dinosaurs.
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That's why we've got a little Daddy Long Neck back there.
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And then we got, I don't know, is that supposed to be a Triceratops?
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It's just so hilarious that we pretend, like, all of this is scientific knowledge.
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Okay, so if you're not, if you have never heard us talk about this, I am skeptical about
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I don't doubt that there were very large creatures that existed at one point that we don't fully
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But I don't think we know that the dinosaurs looked the way that we say that they do, because
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obviously, like, skin, hair, fur, we don't have the fossils of those things.
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And so it's hard for us to know what the scales look like.
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You think we know that a pterodactyl sounds the way that you heard it on Jurassic Park?
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And as I've always said, I think most of the discoveries of dinosaurs, the names, the
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categories, the depictions of them, are the result of a bunch of nerds going into a room
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and basically manifesting their fantasy in these science books.
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And people get very up in arms when I talk about this, but it seems like every week I
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see a new discovery in the media that makes me even more skeptical about the veracity of
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We're going to have to put up, let's, can we just put up this image from the Wall Street
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Tell me, tell me that this does not come from a fantasy book.
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You're telling, okay, newly discovered, newly discovered dinosaur.
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Okay, that in and of itself, newly discovered dinosaur species rocked Loki-esque horns.
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A new horned dinosaur revealed by an international group of paleontologists, sure, sure, sure,
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sported the most ornate headgear found so far in the fossil record.
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The group named the plant eater, Loki ceratops.
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I mean, guys, guys, uh, Loki ceratops range of formus for its blade-like horns, which bear
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an uncanny resemblance to the helmet worn by the Norse trickster god Loki.
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Actually, its skeleton, discovered in 2019, was later purchased by the Museum of Evolution
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Scientists first thought the bones belonged to a dinosaur species named Medusa ceratops.
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But further examination revealed this creature, an adult when it died, was unlike anything ever
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It was in Montana, and for some reason it went to Denmark.
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Yeah, no, I, I don't, they thought it was something else.
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And then they found extra, like, brow bones, and we're like, no, this must be a totally
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different thing we've never even thought about before.
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You know that there's no, like, complete dinosaur fossil.
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I just said they're just putting parts together.
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They don't know, they don't know that it's a brow bone.
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And the, look, the purple and the green, and they have no clue.
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And if you zoom into this image on the Wall Street Journal, they even have, like, okay,
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I was going to say the ground even has dinosaur spikes, if you zoom in closely.
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So that's apparently what it was like in prehistoric times.
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I am more skeptical than ever about the existence of dinosaurs.
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And we, the existence of certain kinds of dinosaurs.
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I literally, there are, like, YouTube videos dedicated to us talking about this.
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I got this long, handwritten letter from someone so, so angry and upset that we have questioned
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But I will just continue to keep you up to date, up to date on that.
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We want to get into this amazing, amazing story.
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And they recorded this song, which, as you will hear, is from the perspective of a baby
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It is contrasted to Katy Perry's dumb song that had no intellectual value, no moral value whatsoever.
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Like, this is a beautifully written song that also carries so much meaning and I really think
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Make sure that you share it with those in your life.
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That's why these songs and stories shape our culture.
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And I think this song that we are about to listen to and about to talk about really has
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Chris and Rachel, thanks so much for taking the time to join me.
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Um, okay, Chris, you have written literally some of my favorite country songs ever.
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I mean, we're talking Kenny Chesney's Don't Blink.
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I'm trying Trace Adkins, Toby Keith's Love Me If You Can, Garth Brooks's People Loving People,
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Montgomery Gentry's Speed, Something to Be Proud of.
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So basically, you specialize in making people cry with your songs.
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Well, yeah, especially when I sing, I make people cry a lot.
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But yeah, I, you know, I, I grew up loving and writing what I call three minute movies.
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I think that that's your job as a songwriter is to make someone feel something they weren't
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Well, a friend of mine gave me a call and, and said that you, you really need to hear
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And honestly, we, I was in the middle of writing.
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I was going to be when I met Rachel and I was just writing it for me because I thought no
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one is ever going to be brave enough to sing this song.
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And so sometimes you write things to just get it out of you, you know, and that's what
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I thought, no, that's, that's who needs to, you know, and I really hope she likes the song.
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And so right in the middle of, I played it for her and the rest is history.
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She loved the song and, and she was brave enough to put something like that out.
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And before we get to Rachel, cause I want to hear about your background and how you got
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Well, you know, the news these days, it's, it's, it's always so one-sided, you know?
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And there's, you know, there's people that are pro-choice and that is fine, but there's
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So for me, it's, it seems like there's, there was only one voice being heard.
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And so basically I just wanted to, I said this before, give a voice to the voiceless that
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And Rachel, you are an 18 year old young woman and you have decided to sing this pro-life
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song when a lot of people think that is a very wrong and controversial position stand to
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When you first heard this song, what did you think?
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We were just meeting with Chris for the first time and we were all just stunned.
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It's definitely a song that just stops you in your tracks.
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Did you ever have a moment when you were like, you know what?
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I don't know if this is the direction I want to go.
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Well, yeah, we talked about it and everything, but honestly, like what better way to let
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people know like who I am than put a song out like this?
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He actually played at the Opry probably like 40 years ago or something.
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And then my dad started to do bluegrass as well.
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And then I started listening to country and I chose to do that.
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So I started actually playing the guitar during COVID.
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And of course, I sing in church growing up and stuff, but that was about it.
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And I started to take it seriously during and around COVID.
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For people who are listening to this song for the first time, they find it impacting them.
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Well, I hope that they go and, you know, go to IwasGonnaBe.com.
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And we also have merch on BassRecords.com, B-A-S-T-E Records.com with Rachel with IwasGonnaBe that you can also get to support us.
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But just, you know, we just feel thankful to be part of it, and we hope everybody loves what it says.
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And if they want to hear you perform somewhere, Rachel, where can they find that information?
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All I will say, I don't have any experience myself in music.
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I just hope that you continue to just be unapologetic in singing these songs that are so unique and are representative, as you said, of people that don't always get the spotlight.
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They don't always, they're not always included in conversations about compassion.
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But who is more vulnerable than that helpless baby inside the womb?
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This is a life with God-given dignity and God-given potential.
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And they were going to be someone in something.
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And this is such a beautiful way to communicate that.
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So without further ado, I would love to hear you guys perform it.
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While I'm getting hurt, you're playing the victim
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Bring it, knock me, tear me, rock me, mow me down
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Close your words, take your aim and take me out
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Keep on shooting and missing if it makes you feel strong
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It's like a bullet in a gun on a suicide mission
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It helps you feel to be a warden in your own prison
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So bring it, knock me, tear me, rock me, mow me down
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Close your words, take your aim and take me out
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Keep on shooting and missing if it makes you feel strong
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So bring it, knock me, tear me, rock me, mow me down
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Close your words, take your aim and take me out
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Keep on shooting and missing if it makes you feel strong
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Oh, it's so good! It does have a good groove to it
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