Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - July 25, 2024


Ep 1040 ｜ Advice for Trump & Jojo Siwa’s Sordid Baby Journey


Episode Stats

Length

57 minutes

Words per Minute

164.44254

Word Count

9,435

Sentence Count

698

Misogynist Sentences

33

Hate Speech Sentences

38


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.940 Jojo Siwa says that she is going to welcome three babies via surrogate. Also, we have officially
00:00:09.220 said goodbye to Joe Biden as the presidential nominee. And hello to Kamala Harris. Here is
00:00:15.940 how we should and should not talk about her. And Elon Musk says that he is a cultural Christian.
00:00:24.120 We've got all of that and much more on today's episode of Relatable.
00:00:30.000 Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far.
00:00:44.700 All right. We are going to try to get through four subjects today. Can we do it? It's going to be a
00:00:50.140 challenge. I'm going to try to do it all in under an hour. Let's go. First topic is Biden's speech.
00:00:56.600 He gave his speech from the Oval Office last night. He said that he chose to, quote unquote,
00:01:02.860 pass the torch forward because he believed it would unite his party and save democracy. There
00:01:12.080 was a lot of that kind of language in his speech last night. Here is Sot One.
00:01:17.840 You know, in recent weeks, it's become clear to me that I need to unite my party in this critical
00:01:24.480 endeavor. I believe my record as president, my leadership in the world, my vision for America's
00:01:32.960 future, all merited a second term. But nothing, nothing can come in the way of saving our democracy.
00:01:41.500 That includes personal ambition. So I've decided the best way forward is to pass the torch to a new
00:01:49.560 generation. That's the best way to unite our nation. All right. So he is apparently recovering from
00:01:59.400 COVID. That was the diagnosis that we were given last week and why he was kind of in isolation,
00:02:05.240 why he dropped the big news on X and then ghosted us for a few days to not give us any signs of life
00:02:12.280 that caused a lot of theories and conspiracy theories about his health, about his whereabouts,
00:02:18.180 even if he was alive. There were a lot of reports that claimed that, oh, he's in hospice or he is
00:02:25.600 actually dead. Of course, I did not share any of those reports. It's really tempting to do that.
00:02:31.060 And when people say that this is a developing story, uncorroborated report, and then they just
00:02:38.320 put the post or put the tweet out there, you really have to be skeptical of those kinds of people.
00:02:43.640 Because yes, there is an engagement incentive to be the first one to say something, but it's not worth
00:02:50.720 being first and wrong, especially when it's that kind of destabilization-inducing information.
00:02:59.080 We don't want our enemies to see things like that. It just makes things look more chaotic and
00:03:06.100 unstable than they already are. And so he is alive. Now, there are some people out there who will still
00:03:12.020 doubt this, who will say that this was maybe artificial intelligence. If it was AI, they could
00:03:16.520 have made him look a lot better. They clearly put some foundation on his face to make him look like he
00:03:21.380 had more color. They also would have made him, I think, sound a little bit stronger if this had been
00:03:26.980 artificial intelligence. I mean, he sounds really bad. And even that might be a little bit strategic.
00:03:32.660 I mean, I do think it's sincere. I think he is really struggling. I think that everything that
00:03:38.180 comes with aging has just precipitated, it seems, over the past several months. But this is a really
00:03:45.680 smart strategy by the Democrats to try to garner as much sympathy, as much pride as possible
00:03:53.820 in Joe Biden. Remember, we had that incredible patriotic image of Donald Trump in front of the
00:04:02.300 clear blue sky, Secret Service around him, the American flag waving behind him, his bloodied face,
00:04:10.120 his fist in the air. And that was the image that we all said was going to win him his campaign. And
00:04:18.320 then his incredible RNC entrance. And then the speech, it was all humble. It was different. It made
00:04:26.600 people come out of the woodwork who were previously either undecided or scared to voice their support for
00:04:33.000 Trump come out and say, yeah, I support him. I'm going to wear my MAGA hat around San Francisco.
00:04:39.820 This spelled absolute and total disaster for the Democrats. They had to do something to take the
00:04:47.960 wind out of Donald Trump's sails. I saw some people saying at that point, oh, they've just given up.
00:04:53.680 They know that Donald Trump is going to win. Oh, my goodness. Have we learned nothing about
00:04:58.720 politics? Have we learned nothing about the machine, the global machine that is America's
00:05:04.840 Democratic Party? You thought that they were going to give up in July because of a couple of good
00:05:10.720 pictures of Donald Trump? No freaking way. No freaking way. Right now, they are doing everything they can
00:05:18.240 to garner sympathy, to garner excitement, to channel any feelings of patriotism and pride in country,
00:05:27.540 uh, into Kamala Harris's campaign. And that is why she is running on freedom. She just put out her
00:05:34.760 first, uh, campaign ad and, uh, we will play a short clip of that. What kind of country do we want to
00:05:42.500 live in? There are some people who think we should be a country of chaos, of fear, of hate, but us,
00:05:52.480 we choose something different. We choose freedom. The freedom not just to get by, but get ahead. The freedom
00:06:03.340 to be safe from gun violence. The freedom to make decisions about your own body. We choose a future
00:06:09.760 where no child lives in poverty, where we can all afford health care, where no one is above the law.
00:06:16.940 So this is what they're going for. And they want us to feel as much empathy and compassion as possible
00:06:24.600 for Biden. They want us to think that this was a courageous, selfless act that he is putting aside
00:06:33.480 voluntarily his personal ambition, that he is passing this opportunity to Kamala Harris, who is going to
00:06:40.580 carry the torch of freedom and democracy and progress into the future. Of course, the reality
00:06:47.800 behind the scenes is much, much darker than that. It's much more corrupt. He did not voluntarily leave.
00:06:54.300 He did not want to leave. He is very resentful and angry behind the scenes about this process.
00:06:59.380 He was pressured out. He was pushed out. He was basically told this is the option that you have.
00:07:07.120 And so now it's Kamala Harris, who is a foot soldier of every far left progressive cause. She
00:07:18.240 is beholden, not, I don't think, to her own party or even her own belief system or even her own
00:07:25.660 personal ideology. She's certainly not beholden to the Constitution or to the country. She is beholden
00:07:31.300 only to power. She has shown that throughout her career. She is beholden to Planned Parenthood and the
00:07:36.780 abortion lobby. She is beholden to the so-called human rights campaign and the LGBTQ lobby. She is
00:07:43.840 beholden to radical environmentalists. That's why she has used her power, for example, as attorney
00:07:49.860 general, to go after pro-lifers, to force pro-life pregnancy centers to advertise for abortion. She was
00:07:57.360 the co-sponsor of that bill that turned into a law that would have forced pro-life centers to advertise
00:08:03.920 for abortion. Thankfully, that was ruled unconstitutional. She sicked state authorities on David
00:08:09.880 Delighton, the pro-life journalist who uncovered the corruption in Planned Parenthood. She had his home
00:08:19.200 rated for that. She is an ardent advocate of the Equality Act, which would absolutely demolish the
00:08:25.860 religious liberty and the free speech rights of religious institutions that hold to the natural
00:08:30.660 definition of marriage and family. She is for the transition of minors, even against the wishes
00:08:38.120 of and the consent of parents. She is absolutely anti-freedom. She is anti-fracking, which spells
00:08:46.680 economic ruin for thousands and thousands of families and for America as a whole. She is beholden to China.
00:08:53.000 She is beholden to Iran. She is beholden to Palestine. She is the most far-left senator that
00:08:59.780 we've had. That includes Bernie Sanders. She has a 100 percent rating from the LGBTQ lobby and Planned
00:09:07.100 Parenthood. She even voted against the bill that would have guaranteed babies who survived abortion. So
00:09:14.480 after abortion, the right to health care. She is radical. She is bloodthirsty. She is as far
00:09:22.820 left as it comes. And she is power hungry. So when she says that she is for freedom, she is lying,
00:09:31.380 plain and simple. She is lying. And not even if she is president, will the Supreme Court be able to
00:09:37.280 keep her in check because she supports the Democrats' radical plan to expand the court and then pack the
00:09:43.560 court with progressive activists who do not care about the Constitution. Remember, at the end of the day,
00:09:48.500 the Constitution is a piece of paper. It's not that it has some kind of inherent magical powers. It
00:09:54.620 actually has to be upheld and enforced by people with authority. And so that is the future that we
00:10:03.600 have with Kamala Harris. And we have to attack her from that angle. We have to attack her from the left,
00:10:11.920 not from the right. What I mean by that is stop calling her Kamala the cop, that she put too many
00:10:18.900 people in jail for marijuana. Stop talking about the fact that, oh, in a speech a few months ago,
00:10:26.080 she called 18 to 24-year-olds stupid. Those are literally the best things that she has done and
00:10:31.920 said. 18 to 24-year-olds are stupid. It's okay that she said that. That's like the most cogent thing
00:10:37.760 that she said. Putting too many people in jail. Look, a country that is looking for law in order,
00:10:43.480 they're actually going to look at something like that and say, okay, well, you know, that's not too
00:10:48.600 bad. I don't hate her for that. Don't attack her from the left. You're not going to get anyone left
00:10:56.120 of center to vote for Donald Trump because she put too many people in jail when she was Attorney General
00:11:02.380 of California. You're just not going to attack her from the right, attack her policies, this name
00:11:08.960 calling, this calling her a hoe, this calling her stupid, which I have done that third one because I
00:11:15.200 do think that she is vapid. So I will be the first to admit that's not the best strategy, but neither
00:11:21.140 are the other ones. Like, let's stay above board. Let's call it what it is. She is a radical,
00:11:28.020 communist-leaning tyrant who is bloodthirsty and the most pro-abortion politician that we've got.
00:11:35.340 She has been in charge of the border for the last four years, and every single murder by an illegal
00:11:41.580 alien happened on her watch because of her choices. Laken Riley's murder is because of Kamala Harris.
00:11:49.360 That's where we go, okay? We don't need to talk about her cackle anymore. We don't need to talk
00:11:53.840 about Willie Brown. We don't need to talk about Montel Williams. I love making fun of the things
00:11:59.580 that she said about school buses just as much as the next person. But we can attack her on policy,
00:12:06.980 and we can, Trump campaign, paint a positive vision of the United States while also contrasting that
00:12:15.720 with the dark reality of an anti-fracking, anti-energy independence, pro-inflation,
00:12:22.600 pro-nine-month abortion future with Kamala Harris at the helm. You can do that without name-calling,
00:12:30.460 without doing the low blows, because every time you do that, you are garnering sympathy
00:12:35.180 for Harris and Joe Biden. We don't want her to have sympathy. We want people to be repelled by her,
00:12:41.900 to be repulsed by her. We want them to be scared of a future with her in the White House. And so
00:12:49.060 paint a picture of America in which it is restored to her former glory, where we've got economic
00:12:58.840 prosperity. We've got energy independence. We've got safe streets. We've got beautiful, clean cities.
00:13:05.020 We've got secure borders. We've got intact, happy families. That's the picture that we need to paint.
00:13:12.980 I think that Donald Trump and J.D. Vance are good people to paint that picture. I think their policies
00:13:18.520 will lead us there, and Kamala Harris will lead us in the opposite direction. That's where we need to go.
00:13:25.840 That's what the Trump campaign, I think, needs to do. I mean, you can take my opinion for what it's
00:13:31.880 worth. I don't have political strategy experience, but I am a mom. I am a suburban woman. I am an
00:13:41.480 evangelical, and I do have my finger on the pulse of what this demographic is looking for. And I have
00:13:49.000 people in my audience, conservative Christian women or Christian women who don't really know quite where
00:13:55.700 they fall on everything who don't know who they're voting for. And now you can make fun of those
00:14:02.480 people all you want to. And you can ridicule them and call them dumb and call them evil or whatever.
00:14:09.560 All you're doing is pushing them into the arms of someone like Kamala Harris or into RFK or into just
00:14:16.920 being so politically apathetic that they just don't think that they can vote for Donald Trump.
00:14:20.460 Okay? I don't know everything that this demographic is thinking, but I know way more than probably most
00:14:28.120 commentators and maybe a lot more than a lot of political strategists about what this very necessary
00:14:35.680 group of women thinks. No more name-calling. Hit her with the policy. She is anti-freedom,
00:14:45.420 anti-prosperity for the average American family. That's where you need to go. Anti-safety,
00:14:51.340 anti-law and order, anti-security, anti-medical freedom. That's Kamala Harris. That is what the
00:14:59.120 swing states care about, what the Rust Belt cares about, what moms care about. All right. Let's move
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00:16:23.980 All right, let's move on from politics and talk about some things happening in our culture. You know,
00:16:30.780 culture is downstream from cults. Cults simply meaning what people believe about God, people's religious
00:16:38.120 beliefs. They're worldview that is always grounded in who we think is in charge. Do you worship the God
00:16:45.900 of Scripture? Do you worship the God of self? Do you worship some other kind of pagan entity? What we
00:16:53.340 worship will determine our culture. It will determine what we think about social issues, and it will also
00:17:00.060 determine our politics. And the God of this age, and you could argue in many ages, is this God of self.
00:17:11.340 This God of self that tells you to prioritize your wants, your desires, your feelings above everything
00:17:19.180 else. I've talked about this quite a few times. I wrote about it in my first book, You're Not Enough,
00:17:24.560 and that's okay. And the God of self has two transcendent values that it demands that you
00:17:32.360 put above everything else, that you submit to these two main values, and that is autonomy and
00:17:38.140 authenticity. You can hear that it has the same prefix there, that AU, that like automatic, autonomy,
00:17:46.920 authenticity, they all sound the same because it's talking about the self. So authenticity,
00:17:53.140 it says you put authenticity above all else. What that means is that you are prioritizing your feelings
00:18:00.460 and your self-identification above all else. Whatever you feel is real, whatever you deem your
00:18:08.060 truth, that is your reality. Everyone and everything else has to succumb and submit to that. The other is
00:18:16.640 autonomy. Autonomy, you control your body. You get to do what you want to do. Everything and everyone
00:18:22.900 is sacrificed on the altars of authenticity and autonomy. When these are your supreme values,
00:18:30.660 you will, for example, in the name of authenticity, even deny biological reality by identifying as
00:18:36.820 something that you can never be, which is the opposite sex. And if you submit to autonomy as your
00:18:44.560 highest value, then you will even sacrifice your unborn child in the name of controlling your own body.
00:18:50.740 Now, authenticity and autonomy are not in themselves bad, but they, just like every other value,
00:18:58.860 have to be in submission to transcendent truth. They have to be in submission, namely to God's law.
00:19:05.760 Yes, truly being yourself and not faking it, not trying to be something that you are not can be good
00:19:12.260 as long as you are still in submission to what God says is good and right and true. Yes, autonomy can be
00:19:18.000 good to a certain extent. I don't believe that the government should be able to come in and, for
00:19:21.540 example, force you to take a vaccine. But again, our authenticity and our autonomy must be in
00:19:28.100 submission to the God of scripture. The God of self is a cruel God demanding that you do whatever you want
00:19:35.640 at all times, no matter whom or what you are sacrificing on the altar of self. And a really good
00:19:43.960 example of someone who has just completely, completely gotten herself wrapped up in this
00:19:49.780 cult of the God of self is Jojo Siwa. Now, I think we've talked about her once or twice before. If you
00:19:56.840 don't know who she is, she was a child star. She was on Dance Moms. Okay. Did you ever watch Dance Moms
00:20:03.660 on TLC? TLC should be like, I don't know. I think what was it? What was it even stand? What does it
00:20:11.100 stand for? TLC? The Learning Channel. It should be Trainwreck Learning Channel. I don't know. I don't
00:20:19.300 know what the LNC should stand for. But it was basically in a lot of cases, not every single show
00:20:25.120 on TLC. I enjoyed watching a lot of them growing up. But a lot of them were just like, let us find
00:20:31.040 the most dysfunctional people possible, put them all in a room, tape them, put some dramatic music
00:20:38.060 behind it. And bam, we've got a channel and a hit show. That's what Dance Moms was. I don't know that
00:20:43.860 much about Jojo Siwa. I know that she got really popular on YouTube, that her mom pushed her really
00:20:49.060 hard to be famous, that she would spend hours dancing and rehearsing and all of that. And that
00:20:54.060 she was like, obsessed with bows there for a while. That's I think all I knew about her. And then a
00:21:00.060 couple years ago, she came out as gay. And it was very strange because she went from like way past
00:21:06.920 the point that it was normal for her to be acting like a child. She was acting like a child. So she
00:21:11.820 went from like this teenage child, basically, who still dressed and acted and danced and sang like
00:21:19.060 a toddler to apparently this grown adult who had some kind of sexual discovery and decided that she was
00:21:26.860 a lesbian. And she started posting about her lesbian romantic relationships. And she has just I don't
00:21:32.960 know if it's in rebellion to her like previous image as this like, I don't know, kid star innocent
00:21:39.980 girl with like a huge following of young girls. But now she's trying to be like super dark. And she's
00:21:46.500 trying to be really rebellious. I would say even demonic in some ways. She has a recent music video,
00:21:51.840 which I'm not going to play with her. Her recent song is an awful song. It's horrible. Just like
00:21:57.940 objectively speaking, I will tell you, by the way, even if a song doesn't align with my values,
00:22:04.060 I will tell you if it's good. I told you that Dylan Mulvaney song slaps. And I was right about that.
00:22:10.000 And but he's he's horrible. But I can I can be objective here. This song is objectively bad,
00:22:16.700 just like Katy Perry song. And I mean, also, the values are horrible. It was extremely sexual. At
00:22:23.620 one point, she's dressed up like a dark angel. She looks like she's in hell. It's she's talking
00:22:28.180 about being someone's like a woman's guilty pleasure. It's just awful. Like the swing was just
00:22:34.240 so incredibly dramatic. And now she's not just portraying herself as some edgy artist. She is
00:22:43.020 also talking about since she says that she's gay, that she is going to use surrogates to have her
00:22:52.080 children. Here's how she talks about that. So two, because I'm gay and I have to plan a pregnancy
00:22:59.580 much different than a straight person. I actually want to take three eggs, fertilize three eggs and
00:23:05.700 have three surrogates. So technically, they'll all be the same batch, but they would all be born
00:23:12.160 separately. I'm gonna have my surrogates, my babies. Then maybe little birthdays will land on
00:23:17.540 different days and they can be like triplets, but like not. How she is talking so flippantly and so
00:23:25.100 selfishly about creating human life is disgusting. It should be repulsive to everyone with a moral
00:23:30.480 compass. And I'm sad for her. I truly am. I mean, like she's a person made in the image of God. We
00:23:35.640 should have compassion for her. I have no idea what she dealt with growing up in the spotlight with like
00:23:40.940 that much pressure. I sense a lot of issues that have gone on there. Like I want her to know her
00:23:48.440 creator. I want her to know Christ. I want her to know why she truly has purpose and value outside of
00:23:54.920 her fame and her audience and her image and her purported sexuality and all of that. But I can know that
00:24:02.420 and feel that while also being repulsed by what she is saying here, because it is. It is so simple.
00:24:07.840 It is so disordered. And what we see about disordered sexuality is that it breeds more
00:24:12.140 disorder and that it always puts kids in the crosshairs. It always sacrifices kids because
00:24:18.440 when you mess with the natural order of procreation, the natural order of marriage, you are just going
00:24:24.980 to get more disorder and more chaos. And what do we always say? Kids are always the primary subjects
00:24:31.940 of progressive social experiments. And that is certainly the case here. She talks about them as
00:24:39.680 a batch. And that's really what kind of happens in the IVF process. And I know not every IVF process
00:24:46.300 is identical, but we really need to start thinking about that. As we've talked about many times, how she
00:24:52.980 is retrieving her eggs, which is hard on the body in the first place, freezing her eggs. She's finding a
00:24:58.340 sperm donor, someone I'm assuming that she does not know that is not going to be in these children's
00:25:04.720 lives. Are they the same sperm donor, different sperm donors? I'm not sure. And then she doesn't want to
00:25:10.480 transfer them into her own uterus. She wants to rent the wombs of three other women. And so she is
00:25:16.440 commercializing women and commodifying and commodifying and objectifying children, all to satisfy her own
00:25:25.880 wants. She is sacrificing the well-being, the needs of these kids for the God of self, for her authenticity
00:25:34.380 and autonomy. And these kids will pay the price, not just in their reproduction, but also throughout
00:25:42.540 their lives because this is forced fatherlessness. The two components needed to make a baby are also
00:25:50.500 the two people needed to raise a baby. Science tells us something. God who created science tells
00:25:57.000 us something about what is needed, not just to create those children, but to raise those children
00:26:01.760 in a healthy way. And she is forcing these kids to be fatherless. She is forcing them into an unstable
00:26:09.280 environment for no other reason except she wants to. Look, children are not a right. The desire to
00:26:15.920 have children is good. And in fact, like, it's so crazy how we think about sexuality and identity.
00:26:21.640 Like, how come someone's desire, like a woman's desire like this, Jojo Siwa, which is good and natural
00:26:28.880 for her to have children, why doesn't that tell her anything about what her identity is? Why is it only
00:26:35.180 her sexual feeling that gets to determine her so-called orientation and the way she orders
00:26:40.000 her life? Why is her sexual lust more important than a much more profound and a much more telling
00:26:47.200 desire to have a child? Maybe if you have this desire to have a child, that is telling you who you
00:26:53.260 are and what your body is for, in part. Obviously, that's not the only thing that determines what our
00:26:59.480 bodies are for or our identity, but it's a big part of it. It's a huge part of being a woman.
00:27:04.760 Why is it your lust that gets to be in the driver's seat of your life and not this innate desire that
00:27:10.780 you have to have children? And if you want to have children, do it the right way. Get married to a man
00:27:16.680 and have kids that way. Or at the very least, if you're not going to do that because you think that
00:27:22.260 your lust determines your identity, then don't force kids to be fatherless. At least don't do that.
00:27:29.480 At least put their well-being above your wants. Kids are gifts. They are not rights. Just because
00:27:35.500 you have a good desire does not justify the ends, which is the unethical IVF process, which involves
00:27:43.140 eugenics, and also the renting of wombs, which is unethical, and also the forced fatherlessness,
00:27:48.240 which is just immoral. Now, speaking of life inside the womb and the dignity of unborn children,
00:27:55.940 speaking of TLC, also, we've got two TLC vets on the episode today, Tori and Zach Roloff. Now,
00:28:03.920 you probably know the name Zach Roloff from the show Little People Big World. That was a good one.
00:28:08.280 I watched that. They are catching some heat on Instagram because a clip they shared
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00:29:31.140 Okay, this just in from Bree, actually, is that Dance Moms was not, it was not on, it was on TLC,
00:29:44.540 right? It was on Lifetime. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep, that's right. Okay. Sorry. Well, Lifetime had its own
00:29:50.960 chaos. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to correct the record on that. But Little People, Big World was
00:29:58.320 definitely on TLC. And a lot of the people from the show still have very prominent platforms. And
00:30:06.720 as far as I know, I think all the kids from the show are Christians and are very outspoken about
00:30:12.140 that, which is awesome. So Tori and Zach Roloff, they have a podcast called Raising Heights. And in
00:30:20.180 a recent episode, they shared their journey of loss due to miscarriage. And they were hoping that
00:30:26.580 their story would help others navigate similar experiences. And she said, in the midst of that,
00:30:33.560 that she realized what her stance on abortion should be. Here's what she said, Sot 3.
00:30:40.340 To me, when you get pregnant, that's a baby, you know? And so when we lost that baby, it was like,
00:30:46.180 we just lost a part of our family previous to this situation. I was very apolitical.
00:30:53.060 But I think being in that room, and being as traumatized as I was, it became black and white
00:31:00.360 for me in that room. I'm not okay with this. Like, I would never choose to be in this room. And I don't
00:31:05.820 understand how somebody could choose to be in that room. You know, yes, you have all these,
00:31:09.740 you know, smaller percentages, you know, women get pregnant, rape, and all those things. Very
00:31:15.640 terrible. But, you know, the majority of people that I get, if I go out and have beers at the bar
00:31:21.260 and drink and drive, get in an accident, I'm going to jail. You know, it's a consequence I chose.
00:31:26.200 So and we don't think about this, that the choice to have sex, that was the choice. We want to choose
00:31:31.920 consequence, the outcome. And that's where I struggle to like, get on board with any of the
00:31:36.620 like, oh, it's healthcare, it's healthcare. It's like, no, no, no, no, no.
00:31:39.300 Yeah, I mean, obviously, they're absolutely right. I don't have to tell you that. And I'm so glad that
00:31:47.200 they were willing to be outspoken about that, because they didn't have to. They knew that that
00:31:51.700 was going to be controversial. They knew that that was going to get them some backlash. And they were
00:31:56.160 very vulnerable, sharing about the tragedy of a miscarriage, having to get a DNC after a miscarriage,
00:32:02.380 and then talking about how that changed their perspective on something, or at least her perspective
00:32:06.660 awakened her to the right perspective about abortion, and just how heinous it is, how wrong it is
00:32:14.600 every single time to kill an innocent child. And they also went on to talk about how the abortion
00:32:23.640 issue affects their family, since obviously, the Roloffs have dwarfism in their family. Here's top four.
00:32:30.060 How many people, when we had Jackson, they came in very serious and said, hey, you know, Jackson's a
00:32:38.000 dwarf. And we already knew it, we saw it on the ultrasound. But that the way they had that conversation,
00:32:42.800 because for a lot of people, the next conversation could be a whole lot different than what ours was.
00:32:49.000 We were happy and everything like that. It's it that baby's going to have a harder life, I want to
00:32:55.100 terminate it or put it up for adoption. But a lot of people have that. So abortion also, you know, for
00:33:01.120 me, yeah, it's it's in the context of dwarfism. Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't like it at all.
00:33:09.360 Yeah, I mean, that's what people with special needs or people with dwarfism or people who are
00:33:16.420 conceived in rape or people who were conceived in really hard circumstances. That's what they're
00:33:22.900 hearing from the pro-choice, pro-abortion side, that your life was worth being exterminated,
00:33:30.200 that you would have been you're too much of a burden, you're too difficult. The circumstances
00:33:36.100 surrounding your conception or surrounding your pregnancy were too hard, it would have been fine
00:33:41.800 if you would have been murdered, it would have been fine if you would have been killed. It's only
00:33:47.120 apparently perfect and perfectly wanted babies that deserve a right to life. And you see how
00:33:52.720 nonsensical that is, how illogical that is, that someone's worth, that someone's inherent right to
00:33:59.280 life is dependent upon the circumstances surrounding their conception, or what their disability is,
00:34:06.100 or how rich or poor their parents are, or how much they're wanted. Like take those reasons to
00:34:14.280 people outside of the womb. Do you think that you should be free, that you should have a right to
00:34:19.860 kill a five-year-old because they're not wanted, or they're in an abusive home, or a poor home,
00:34:25.740 or because they were conceived in rape? Do you think that we should exterminate people who are outside of
00:34:34.800 the womb because of their disabilities, because of their socioeconomic status, because of their
00:34:39.700 size, because of their contributions, because of their sentience? Of course, you're going to say no,
00:34:45.040 of course you don't believe that it should be legal to kill a 5, 10, 50-year-old for these reasons.
00:34:50.920 And so if you don't think that it should be legal or justified to kill people outside of the womb for
00:34:56.360 these reasons, why do you think those are good justifications to kill people inside of the womb
00:35:00.620 for those reasons? It doesn't make any sense. You don't become like a different person when you go
00:35:07.700 through the birth canal. You're still the same person. You're just a different size. Surely you
00:35:12.140 don't think that someone's right to life is determined by their size or age, right? Or what
00:35:17.220 they look like? I mean, that would be really cruel and really barbaric. Like you would be right in line
00:35:22.520 with the Nazis. You'd be right in line with Pol Pot. You'd be right in line with every single
00:35:29.860 author of the worst human rights atrocities in history if that's what you believe. So hopefully
00:35:34.800 that's not what you believe. And if that's not what you believe, then you should believe that
00:35:38.940 babies in the womb have the same right to not be murdered as you and me. That's the side you should
00:35:43.580 be on. Unfortunately, the people in the comments of these videos do not have that mentality.
00:35:49.940 They are not thinking rationally. They think that they are because they have been so brainwashed,
00:35:55.560 so propagandized by the lies of the God of self, the lies of Satan, who is constantly using the same
00:36:10.020 deceit that was used in the Garden of Eden to manipulate women today. Did God really say,
00:36:14.640 you do this and you can be like God? That's basically the lie of abortion is that no,
00:36:19.800 you are the author of life through your bodily autonomy. So here are some of the crazy comments.
00:36:26.580 You can go, you can go look at their Instagram video. I encourage you to actually, because I want
00:36:30.760 you to comment something positive. I want you to encourage them. I want you to pray for them. I want
00:36:34.620 you to message them. I want you to share on your stories. I want you to share the arrows with them
00:36:39.880 because here are some of the comments. They're insane. Tori, in many places today, you would not
00:36:44.940 have the option to have a DNC anymore. Do you not realize this? Does that fact change your mindset?
00:36:49.820 That's not true. That's not true. Like these people did the same thing to the Duggars. Okay.
00:36:55.920 More TLC people. They did the same thing to the Duggars. When Jessa Duggar had a miscarriage,
00:37:00.880 she lives in Arkansas, which is a pro-life state. She had a miscarriage. She had to have a DNC
00:37:05.320 after the miscarriage. She was accused by all of these brainless Redditors that, oh,
00:37:11.080 she had an abortion. Oh, abortion for thee, but not for me. Oh, you have, you know, you have wealth
00:37:17.260 and you have privilege and you have connection. So you can get an abortion, but you don't think
00:37:20.560 other people should be able to get an abortion. A DNC after a miscarriage is not an abortion.
00:37:25.300 Okay. It's not an abortion. Like you, I know you understand this. I know you do. I know you do.
00:37:30.740 So just pause, take a deep breath, put your thinking cap on for a second. The reason that
00:37:37.800 pro-lifers are against abortion is because it is ending the life of someone who is alive. Okay.
00:37:43.860 They've got their own independent DNA. They are their own human being. They're not like an organ.
00:37:48.640 They're not just a clump of cells. They are a human being at the earliest point of conception.
00:37:54.260 And we don't believe in killing innocent people, period. Whether they're in the womb or outside of the
00:38:00.340 womb. Okay. A miscarriage. Yes. Sometimes it is coded for insurance as a spontaneous abortion,
00:38:06.640 but no matter what the terminology is, a miscarriage is natural death. Okay. No one took
00:38:13.380 a pill to poison that child, to stop its heart. No one is tearing apart that child limb from limb while
00:38:20.860 he or she is still alive. No one murdered that child. No one killed that child. That child died by
00:38:26.840 natural causes. Again, I know, you know, the difference between someone dying by natural
00:38:31.180 causes outside of the womb and someone being murdered, right? Like I know that, you know,
00:38:36.440 the difference there. That's the difference between a miscarriage and an abortion. So a DNC
00:38:40.840 after a miscarriage is removing a child who has already naturally and tragically died. A DNC
00:38:47.400 and an abortion is a part of a procedure to kill a child that is alive. There are zero states that have
00:38:55.080 banned, prohibited, restricted, a DNC after a miscarriage. At all. Okay. You have been completely
00:39:03.820 lied to if you believe that, or you just have deluded yourself into thinking that. Someone said,
00:39:09.520 I'm glad you had the choice to abort the pregnancy that ended. My gosh. That you weren't forced to carry
00:39:16.260 the embryonic tissue and possibly cause infection and damage to your reproductive system. No one is
00:39:20.020 being forced to do that. No one's being forced to do that. Astonished that you feel that others
00:39:25.600 shouldn't be able to make the same choice. Loved your podcast. I can't listen anymore. Okay.
00:39:33.060 Everyone is entitled, someone else says, to their opinion. But when the government dictates in some
00:39:37.040 states that you cannot have a DNC unless you are dying, it's a problem. I love your podcast,
00:39:41.760 but you need to be more educated about this. The projection is just insane. These people are so
00:39:46.580 uneducated. Most of these people couldn't even tell you what happens in an abortion or even what DNC
00:39:50.900 stands for. It's dilation and cuterage, by the way. Y'all lost me at you don't think it's a woman's
00:39:58.940 right to choose. You can have every right to choose for yourself that you can never do that. But to make
00:40:03.620 judgment and to make that decision for someone else is what is not okay. Like, you know, that's the
00:40:08.880 basis of all laws, right? Like telling people what they can't do based on a belief. Every single law
00:40:14.320 is that. Every single law is telling someone what they can or cannot choose to do based on an
00:40:20.980 underlying belief that doing so is wrong or harmful. Murder laws, theft laws, rape laws,
00:40:28.240 all of that. Like, let's take your logic to another scenario again. Like, why do you think that your
00:40:35.840 belief, for example, if you want to use this logic, that rape is wrong should infringe upon someone else's
00:40:42.240 right to do that? Yeah, because it's wrong, because it's harming someone else, because you believe
00:40:49.020 rightly that people have a right not to be raped. That's what abortion laws are. We're saying, no,
00:40:55.980 you should not have the choice to murder an innocent person just because they're in your womb. Okay,
00:41:01.440 so you can disagree with that. The only honest stance to take if you are pro-choice is to say that you
00:41:07.940 don't believe babies inside the womb have a right not to be murdered, and that's it. You understand
00:41:15.900 that it's a life. You understand that it's a person. You understand that it is, you know, the same
00:41:20.600 species as people outside of the womb. You just believe that some murder is okay. That is the only
00:41:26.120 honest stance to take, that some murder is fine to you. Now, if you don't believe that, again, I would
00:41:31.060 just reassess your position. So go share the arrows with them. Good for them. Good for you for not only
00:41:35.600 saying it on your podcast, but posting it on Instagram, because you, Rolofs, are giving cover
00:41:40.740 to other people who feel the same way but are scared. Now, they will be willing to speak up.
00:41:46.020 And you who are watching them, their family, their friends especially, but also just anyone out there
00:41:52.540 who follows them, don't be silent about this. Treat them how you would want to be treated. If you
00:41:57.680 were receiving backlash for something controversial, you wouldn't want someone standing up with you too
00:42:01.580 and saying, you know what? Whatever arrows you're throwing at them, you can throw at me. Whatever
00:42:06.280 names you're calling them, whatever consequence you're giving them, I'll take that too. That's
00:42:10.740 what sharing the arrows is. And now it's time to share the arrows with some people who gave the
00:42:16.480 pro-life perspective and are getting reamed for that and to pray for them to be strengthened and to
00:42:21.460 not back down or apologize. Do not ever say sorry for something that you are not sorry for
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00:44:24.940 Okay, Elon Musk just sat down with Dr. Jordan Peterson for a two-hour interview on Monday during
00:44:33.940 which he discussed why he has come out against the dangers of what he calls wokeism, why he now
00:44:39.340 considers himself a cultural Christian. In the interview, he said that he was tricked into signing
00:44:47.140 documents to approve of the transition of his son. He says he was manipulated by this in 2022. Here's
00:44:56.420 top five.
00:44:58.300 I was essentially tricked into signing documents for one of my older boys, Xavier. You know, I was told,
00:45:06.680 you know, Xavier might commit suicide if he doesn't. That was a lie right from the outset?
00:45:12.140 Incredibly evil. And I agree with you that people that have been promoting this should go to prison.
00:45:16.660 That's a personal connection. So I was tricked into doing this. And
00:45:19.820 it wasn't explained to me that puberty blockers are actually just sterilization drugs. I lost my son,
00:45:28.880 essentially. So, you know, they, they call it dead naming for a reason. All right. So the reason
00:45:36.280 it's called dead naming is because your son is dead. So my son, Xavier is dead, killed by the woke mind
00:45:46.020 virus.
00:45:49.340 Hmm. I mean, just absolutely tragic there. And, you know, it's easy to say, how could you not know?
00:45:55.820 How could you not push back against this? How could you not do more? But, you know, I think he
00:46:01.340 probably considered himself a progressive guy, at least politically independent for a long time.
00:46:06.980 Believe it or not, those who are not Christian conservatives have not seen the dangers of
00:46:11.460 progressivism for as long as we have. And I say that as someone who has seen it a lot, you know,
00:46:17.120 for much less time than some of you, just because of my age. But I mean, as much as people like to
00:46:25.140 accuse Christian conservatives and evangelicals of being on a slippery slope and pushing a slippery
00:46:31.340 slope fallacy and fear mongering and being paranoid, the fact is, is that all of our predictions about
00:46:39.400 the destabilization of society because of progressivism, because of the sexual and moral
00:46:43.420 revolution, they've come true. And then some. And so you have to have grace and understanding for
00:46:49.280 people who were not raised the way that we were, who were not seeing things, have not seen things from
00:46:53.700 a biblical light versus darkness, good versus evil, Satan versus God perspective for a very long
00:47:00.520 time, who are not familiar with Genesis 1 through 3 and don't see things through that lens. But it
00:47:08.060 sounds like he has really had an awakening. I think a lot of people did after COVID. I think Joe Biden's
00:47:14.120 presidency has been extremely clarifying for a lot of people to see just how far
00:47:19.700 the left will weaponize the levers of power to go against parents who stand in the way of gender
00:47:28.340 ideology to stand that will stand in the way of the sterilization of their children going so far as
00:47:36.100 to take kids out of their parents custody. Elon Musk recently said, because of the so-called safety act
00:47:43.100 that we have covered on this show, that he is going to move, I think it was both Tesla and SpaceX,
00:47:50.820 if I remember correctly, out of California and move them to Texas because of this. You'll remember the
00:47:57.040 safety act, which has been signed by Gavin Newsom. So now it's a law prohibits schools from requiring
00:48:04.040 teachers and administrators to disclose a child's newfound gender identity to their parents. And we already
00:48:11.020 know that that leads to suicide and abuse because Yaley Martinez, the daughter of a South American
00:48:17.200 immigrant, the school hid her newfound identity from her mom while she socially transitioned at school.
00:48:23.540 And then when she told school counselors, my mom's not going to go on board or not going to get on
00:48:27.980 board with this, they removed, um, they went to authorities who then removed Yaley Martinez from her
00:48:34.620 mother's custody. Yaley Martinez bounced around to different homes until she finally isolated
00:48:40.420 and removed from the only people who really had her best interest at heart committed suicide.
00:48:46.420 And that's what laws like this will lead to. And I think Elon Musk realizes this. Um, and I think he
00:48:53.040 also realizes that, okay, the only thing to push back against this darkness is Christianity. And he's
00:49:02.360 absolutely right about that. Here is sought six. I'm actually a big believer in, in, in the principles
00:49:10.720 of Christianity. Um, I think they're very good. So in what sense then are you not religious?
00:49:19.160 Well, so Dawkins just three weeks ago or thereabouts and announced that he was a cultural Christian,
00:49:25.200 right? And so the question, right. I would say I'm, I'm, I'm probably a cultural Christian. Okay. I was,
00:49:29.840 I was brought up as a Anglican and I was baptized. Hmm. Interesting. So we've seen this a lot recently.
00:49:37.360 We've seen Richard Dawkins, which we talked about on the show. We can link the episode. So you can go
00:49:42.480 watch that. We've also seen Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Um, she said that she became a Christian, but I'll talk
00:49:48.080 about that commonality between those in just a second. Um, and then we have, uh, Elon Musk and it seems to
00:49:56.100 me that I think Ayaan Hirsi Ali, I think she may have actually converted to Christianity. However,
00:50:01.960 in all of their explanations of why they like Christianity, why they're moving towards Christianity
00:50:07.340 is for practical purposes. And I, I do think that that is a good step. That's a good development. I
00:50:15.000 think that gets us in the right direction because they realize that the only worldview that has the
00:50:23.480 moral coherence, as Andrew Walker said in world magazine to fight back against the disorder
00:50:30.720 and the incoherence of the progressive zeitgeist, the spirit of this age is Christianity. It is the
00:50:38.800 only one it is indirect competition to progressivism. It's, um, a view of creation of the creator of human
00:50:48.860 nature, of male and female, of marriage, of reproduction, of the ordering of society. Um, even the designation
00:50:57.600 of borders and nations and laws and civil authorities, um, all of these things create human flourishing.
00:51:07.060 And it's got its own soteriology. It's got its own eschatology that is in direct competition to every
00:51:13.840 tenet of progressivism. Progressivism causes disorder, disarray, and chaos. Christianity
00:51:19.100 has a civilizational effect. It has an ordering effect. And you don't even have to be a believer
00:51:26.840 in the resurrection of Jesus Christ to see that. However, it is incoherent not to see that. And,
00:51:36.740 you know, all of us have maybe been in a place of dissonance in our faith and our worldview in the
00:51:41.600 past, but you cannot look to Christianity for its practical benefits without seeing that it is also
00:51:49.300 true. Something that has been so beneficial, that has been such a force for freedom and flourishing
00:51:55.180 for 2,000 years is beneficial because it is true, because Jesus is real. There is a reason why we order
00:52:03.820 history based on Jesus' birth and death. He is that central. He is the keystone of it all, of all that
00:52:14.320 is good and right and true. He is the source of it. Christianity is beneficial because it is true.
00:52:21.420 Richard Dawkins has mocked the tenets of Christianity, but he wants the remnants of it. He wants the
00:52:27.780 principles to guide our societies, but he doesn't want the belief that has led to those principles.
00:52:34.760 I mean, Richard Dawkins is to blame for much of the mockery and disbelief of Christianity that has
00:52:41.760 led to our God of self, godless culture, that has led to what Elon Musk calls the woke mind virus,
00:52:48.620 to the disintegration of the family, of marriage, of the reality of gender. Go read Genesis, Elon Musk.
00:52:55.880 I would say read Genesis 1-3, read Romans 1, read John 1, read Ephesians 1 and 2. Those are all good
00:53:05.020 places to start. Elon Musk gets you an ESV study Bible. And come on Relatable, by the way. We'll
00:53:11.100 talk about all of these things. So it's interesting to see this resistance to the results of progressivism
00:53:17.840 by people who previously called themselves atheists. I also think of like James Lindsay,
00:53:24.100 who understands Christian theology really well, I think appreciates a lot of Christian doctrines.
00:53:28.560 At the end of the day, these people, at least Dawkins and Musk, and of course, James Lindsay,
00:53:33.440 I think they would all admit the reason that they're not Christians, the reason that they're
00:53:36.340 not religious, to answer Jordan Peterson's question is because they don't believe. Like,
00:53:41.920 they don't believe that Jesus is God and that he was born of a virgin, that he died on the cross for
00:53:46.880 our sins in our stead, and that he was raised from the dead three days later. They don't believe that.
00:53:54.860 And so, but the good thing is, is that you can say, God, help me with my unbelief. And even the
00:54:01.480 faith that we are given is a gift of grace. As Ephesians 2 says, we can't even take credit for that.
00:54:06.620 And that is really good news. So pray for Elon Musk. Pray for his child, his son, who will always be
00:54:13.380 his son. Pray for restoration there and pray for his eyes and his mind and his heart to be opened.
00:54:20.640 Really interesting moment to be alive, guys. I mean, there is such a need for truth telling and
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00:55:31.840 All right, that's all we've got for today, y'all. We did it. Under an hour. Go us. And we got through
00:55:49.260 a lot too. What do we have coming up, Bree? Do we have, I'm trying to think of like announcements that
00:55:54.480 we might have. Anything coming up? I've got your book. I've got my book. But episode-wise,
00:56:00.860 what do we have on Monday? Episode-wise, oh, we haven't decided yet. We haven't decided. I didn't
00:56:05.960 know. We've got a lot of fun interviews that we have recorded that we are recording. So I couldn't,
00:56:11.640 I haven't decided if we are going to put one of those up on Monday. But we will decide. And I will
00:56:17.000 let you know on Instagram. But yes, I do have a new book coming out October 15th. And y'all have been
00:56:21.120 so supportive and generous. It is called Toxic Empathy. Rosaria Butterfield reviewed it as well
00:56:26.980 as many others. She said every page of this book is a lifeline to sanity. Girls and related bros,
00:56:33.240 related gals and related bros, you've got to get Toxic Empathy when it comes out. It will equip you
00:56:38.580 to have every single necessary conversation with the people in your life about all of the issues that
00:56:45.020 we are facing this election season. It's not just about politics, but it does go through five
00:56:50.660 political, social issues and how Christians should think about them. All of the arguments,
00:56:54.720 the tools, the facts, the history, everything that you need to rebut arguments on abortion,
00:57:02.060 immigration, social justice, gender, marriage, all of that with a really heavy dose of love and
00:57:10.840 gentleness and compassion too. So Toxic Empathy, go to ToxicEmpathy.com. Check it out. You can pre-order
00:57:18.260 wherever books are sold. Thanks so much. All right. I will see you guys back here on Monday.