Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1046 ｜ Ex-Psychic on Demonic Possession & Taylor Swift ｜ Guest： Jenn Nizza

00:00:00.620 Jen Niza is a former psychic. She thought she was communicating with the dead until she realized she 0.99

00:00:07.640 was actually oppressed by demons. Today, we are going to talk about her testimony. She's also

00:00:13.040 going to tell us all of the surprising ways that we can see the New Age and the demonic

00:00:17.740 manifesting themselves today. Some of the things that she says, especially towards the end of our

00:00:23.440 conversation, will be deemed controversial, but that's why they are so vitally important for us

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00:00:47.140 Jen, thanks so much for joining me. If you could tell everyone who you are and what you do.

00:00:50.960 Hi, Ali. Thank you so much for having me. Well, my name is Jen, and I am a former psychic medium

00:00:57.640 saved by the amazing grace of Jesus Christ almost 11 years ago, and now I'm actually in full-time

00:01:04.520 ministry. Believe it or not, I say that because technology is not my forte, Ali, but the Lord

00:01:11.400 has made it my mission field. So strange. Wow.

00:01:13.940 In 2020.

00:01:15.020 That's amazing. Okay. You said that you considered yourself a psychic and a medium, and we were

00:01:22.760 talking before the camera started rolling, that you were actually mentored by the same person as

00:01:27.700 the Long Island medium. Her name is Teresa. She had a show on TLC. She's still got a popular podcast

00:01:33.780 today doing readings. And so tell us about that, how you came up in that world.

00:01:39.240 When I started getting dreams of somebody who I believed was a deceased person communicating with

00:01:46.300 me. And that's a long story. That's how the mediumship started. And the information actually

00:01:51.320 was verified by an indirect source of this message from, again, somebody that I believed was a deceased

00:01:59.460 spirit. Not, of course, now I know it's a familiar spirit, which is a demon, a fallen angel.

00:02:06.240 When that happened, I went to the psychic medium that I used to go to, and she actually told me

00:02:11.480 that day that I had a gift from God, that I too was a medium, and that sure enough was a deceased man

00:02:18.120 getting in touch with me so that I could bring messages to his loved ones that are here.

00:02:24.900 She handed me a business card that day of a woman who led a divination group, and that is the person

00:02:30.800 that we were referring to. I was in the same circle as Teresa and some other well-known mediums.

00:02:36.980 I'm sad to say. However, we need to be praying for Teresa.

00:02:42.740 Yeah.

00:02:43.200 Yeah.

00:02:43.720 And before you started having these dreams of someone that you thought was a deceased man

00:02:49.280 communicating to you, did you have a lot of history with psychics? Like, had you been visiting

00:02:55.240 psychics yourself before this?

00:02:57.800 One million percent. I actually had psychic attacks when I was 12. This started at a very young age for

00:03:03.860 me, Allie. I was exposed to the supernatural, not in a good way, at a young age. And at 13,

00:03:10.880 I had my first tarot card reading. And I really believe that was when I started to seek it out. So

00:03:18.220 yeah, from 13 all the way to that moment, which was in my young 20s, when the mediumship started,

00:03:25.760 I was visiting tarot card readers, numerologists, astrologers, coffee grind readings, and I was

00:03:34.720 doing them. So not only was I getting readings, but I was giving readings as well. I had my own

00:03:40.080 tarot cards. I had the angel cards, the whole thing. And again, it's important to mention that

00:03:47.160 when you practice divination, you are communicating with demons. You are not communicating with dead

00:03:52.980 people. You are not communicating with any sort of good entity. So these demons were multiplying in

00:03:59.880 my life with every reading. It actually, it breaks my heart, every reading that I did. And it's no

00:04:05.440 surprise to me that it got to the point of getting the, when they started to visit me, to give me

00:04:11.200 information to deceive. I was deceived and deceiving other people.

00:04:15.540 Mm-hmm. You know, when we think of demonic possession, we typically think of like Emily

00:04:21.380 Rose, someone who looks possessed, who looks very dark. Maybe they have scratches on themselves and

00:04:27.880 they're unable to control themselves. They look demonic. But your life at the time, I'm sure you

00:04:33.620 looked like a normal, you know, young woman. And maybe you even thought that things were going well 0.99

00:04:39.500 because of these psychic readings that you were giving and receiving. But what did your life kind

00:04:46.060 of look like growing up? Was it peaceful? Was it turbulent? That is such a great, I am so glad that

00:04:51.480 you brought that up because we know that Satan is the master illusionist. He makes something look one

00:04:56.340 way. It's all smoke and mirrors. I was your girl next door, you would say, shopping at the Gap, doing my

00:05:02.060 readings, you know, in mom's house and whatever. But parallel or, you know, parallel to doing these

00:05:11.100 readings, I had moments of happiness in my life, but predominant anxiety, constantly being bothered

00:05:20.660 by these entities. And I mean, I was seeing demons manifesting right before my eyes. They started touching

00:05:26.220 me. I was hearing from them all the time. And this is where people need to be so careful. Psychic

00:05:33.340 mediums may say, well, I know how to turn it off and turn it on and tell spirit to step back and when

00:05:39.140 to step forward. And that's just not true. They're around you all the time with their sinister agenda.

00:05:44.920 And I could just be in random places hearing from these familiar spirits and thinking I was helping

00:05:51.340 people. But it became fearful at times, too, because they were around me so much. I became fearful.

00:06:01.680 And what did your parents think about all of this? Did they know?

00:06:05.740 Yes, they knew and they were very supportive. They saw my clients hugging me and I was crying with these

00:06:12.600 people because we really believed that I was hearing from their deceased spouses, moms, dads, and even

00:06:20.260 children, Allie. And I would be hugging. And I really wanted to help these people. That's important

00:06:25.580 because I believed what the new age told me, that I had a gift and it was to help people. So mom and dad

00:06:33.080 were actually pretty supportive. And I actually read my own family, which honestly sounds so bizarre.

00:06:39.280 But the information in the readings were pieces of information that I never had known,

00:06:44.280 tracing back to relatives that I didn't even know that were deceased before I was even

00:06:50.220 alive. So they saw that as confirmation that you have this special gift. Were you raised other than

00:06:56.880 that with any other kind of religious belief? Did your parents believe anything religiously?

00:07:02.400 I was raised culturally Catholic. So church was not an obligation. And it certainly wasn't something

00:07:10.460 that we attended except for maybe holidays, maybe not. The holidays were more about the family time and

00:07:19.520 Santa Claus and the lights and things of that nature. My mom definitely seemed to love Jesus.

00:07:27.520 She was raised, she went to Catholic school. But she seemed to love Jesus. And I remember questioning

00:07:32.680 her when I was young and just saying, how do you know? How do you believe in Jesus? And how do you

00:07:39.600 seem so sure? And I knew that I didn't have that. I didn't have that. But I went through the motions

00:07:45.680 with Catholic instruction. I went through the sacraments. To me, though, it was just going

00:07:53.020 through the motions. I had no idea what it meant. I didn't know what confirmation meant. I just did it.

00:07:58.180 Right. There's a big crossover in particular in Latin America with the mysticism that you're talking

00:08:05.900 about in Catholicism. Was there ever a point where you thought, okay, it's fine because it's really

00:08:11.760 no different than talking to a saint or talking to Mary. Is that part of how this evolved in your life

00:08:20.360 or not really? Not really. Not really that way. But I know what you mean. And I'm kind of thinking

00:08:23.860 even of Santeria, which I didn't know about at the time, which mixes Catholicism, those candles. And

00:08:29.740 I'm thinking about all the candles. I did have the candles. I had the candles of Jesus and Mary.

00:08:34.080 Honestly, Ali, the New Age steals from every religion. So it's a mishmash. For me, it was 0.99

00:08:43.620 really just a mishmash. I could have a candle of Jesus but have no faith in the real Jesus. I knew

00:08:49.080 the New Age Jesus, the false Jesus. You could basically do whatever you wanted and I had no

00:08:53.960 authority. And I could decide who these spirits were and even have the desire to control that

00:09:03.360 without, not in a cocky sense. But in that divination group that I was in, I was taught

00:09:09.660 actually to say the Lord's Prayer as a prayer of protection right before practicing divination.

00:09:16.260 Wow.

00:09:17.480 It's insane to me now.

00:09:19.000 Yes.

00:09:19.440 It really is.

00:09:19.900 So in your early 20s, you said that you started to get this visitation by someone that you thought

00:09:24.160 was a deceased man. And did you recognize this man in your dreams?

00:09:27.980 This is very interesting. I did not at all recognize this man. As a matter of fact, he

00:09:32.340 was indirectly connected. I mean, of course, again, it's a demon.

00:09:36.340 But in your mind then?

00:09:38.120 In my mind, he was indirectly connected to an ex of mine, my daughter's father, which was

00:09:44.680 very clever of Satan because her dad and I were not together anymore. But he would visit

00:09:51.160 and he was going out with somebody who I had never met. And I knew from the dream that this

00:09:58.540 person was connected to the person that he was with. So indirect enough that I wouldn't question

00:10:05.100 myself. Is that something I could have known? Could he have mentioned this in the past?

00:10:09.740 But direct enough to get the message. I know I talk with my hands a lot.

00:10:13.580 That's fine. That's the Italian thing.

00:10:14.780 That's fine.

00:10:15.300 But direct enough to get this message to someone, to get a validation, to further pursue the

00:10:24.400 mediumship.

00:10:25.400 Okay.

00:10:26.920 Isn't that?

00:10:28.180 Yes. Wow.

00:10:28.960 And he was in awe. He was, when I said to him, I said, listen, I said, I had this dream

00:10:34.820 and I think it may be connected to your girlfriend. And I explained the dream, what this boy looked

00:10:40.680 like, how he died, the whole thing. And he said, okay, I'll have to ask her. So he didn't

00:10:45.740 even know at the time. He went back and he asked her and he came back a week later to visit

00:10:49.800 our daughter. And he said, I have to talk to you. And he said, that is so-and-so's brother.

00:10:55.240 And that is exactly. So he said to me, so then what's his name? And I said, Michael, those

00:11:01.720 demons just downloaded the information in a second. And he said, yeah. And we were both shook.

00:11:08.180 Yes.

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00:12:36.980 about, how and why a demon would manifest themselves in a way that would make someone feel like they're a

00:12:46.020 psychic or they're a medium. What is the purpose and the mechanism of that? Because that's, I mean,

00:12:54.740 that's just kind of mind-blowing to me. Yeah, absolutely. So we know that a third of the heavenly

00:12:59.360 host fell with Satan. So there are angels that are fallen angels. So those are demons, and they're all

00:13:05.600 over the place. And they've been here for ages, Allie. And so they study people. I always say,

00:13:11.080 I'm a human being, and I can make a prediction. And I can make a prediction with a very high accuracy.

00:13:18.920 So we're people. Imagine those demons that have been around for ages and have influence. We know

00:13:24.120 it's a spiritual battle. Ephesians 6, 12 tells us that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood,

00:13:28.560 but against the principalities, the authorities, the cosmic powers, and the darkness in the heavenly

00:13:34.180 places. So they also have the ability to influence people to even do things to accomplish their sinister

00:13:40.320 agenda. Why would they want to provide information to people like me, to people like Teresa,

00:13:47.420 believing that we're helping people, believing that these are deceased people, to trick people

00:13:52.840 to get them away from Jesus Christ, to get them away from the Lord, to live in disobedience. Because God

00:14:00.500 says, and really throughout his entire word, but if we look at Deuteronomy 18, I like to go 9 to 13,

00:14:07.880 but in 10 to 12, Deuteronomy 18, 10 to 12, God gives us a group of these practices that we are

00:14:14.260 not to do. Do not practice or consult. Medium, spiritist, do not interpret omens. Necromancy,

00:14:21.700 which is trying to talk to the dead, conjuring up the dead, which we see, unfortunately, a lot even

00:14:26.720 today. And telling fortunes, fortune telling. It's the same thing. It's still going on. But the enemy

00:14:34.220 wants to fool you, and he's going to come at an opportune time. Grief, in my opinion, is arguably

00:14:41.440 the most difficult emotion that we can deal with as human beings. So when you're grieving, you've lost

00:14:50.840 somebody. You are so desperate to have them back. You don't want to let them go. So now here comes

00:14:57.140 so-and-so, maybe Jen, at the radiology place, coming in for an ultrasound, and the technician

00:15:04.520 just lost her brother. This actually happened in a boating accident. And then I'm laying there

00:15:10.040 and saying, hey, I'm a medium. Is it okay to share this message I have for you? Oh, yes.

00:15:17.680 Because it's so intriguing, Ali. The supernatural is so intriguing. Yes, of course. Right? And here

00:15:23.440 it is. And then you get this information. So now this person is going to continue to go to the medium,

00:15:28.300 continue to do more psychic readings, maybe even then go get their own tarot cards, their own crystals,

00:15:35.740 meditation, all of the new age things, and get further and further away from God. That's Satan's

00:15:41.080 agenda since the beginning. Genesis 3. Yes. Yes. Did God really say? Yeah. You said some words and

00:15:49.920 phrases that I hadn't heard before that you said that you kind of messed around when you were a

00:15:54.440 teenager with something called like coffee grind readings and some other things that you played

00:16:04.140 around with. Then what is that? Yeah. So those are tools of divination. Astrology is when people

00:16:10.640 again, it's so idolatrous. When people are going to the planets, the stars and the moon, believing

00:16:16.820 that where they are, maybe at the time when you're born. And this is so sad, Ali, if it's okay to say

00:16:22.940 this, I'm seeing this more and more now being pushed out even on television shows like Fox and Friends.

00:16:28.460 They had an astrologer on it. Broke my heart. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm going to call it out.

00:16:33.020 Oh, that's okay. Jesse Waters had a tarot card reader and a witch on it. So it's, it's, it's,

00:16:38.220 it's heartbreaking. Yeah. And anyway, astrology is a tool of divination. So you're going to a

00:16:43.380 created thing, believing that it has some sort of insight, wisdom, or knowledge about your life

00:16:48.000 and knowledge about your future instead of going to God. And he said this was going to happen over

00:16:54.600 and over again. You know, have no, have no gods before me, he says in Exodus 20 and three. And then

00:16:59.660 in Romans one, we see that people are suppressing the truth for the lies and they're trading in the

00:17:05.360 truth of God for creation. They're worshiping creation. So numerology is very similar. It's

00:17:11.540 taking numbers and looking to extract hidden information from the numbers about your life,

00:17:18.660 about your personality. So again, it could be, Hey, I'm in a number three year. That means,

00:17:23.380 you know, instability to one new ager, but to another one, it could have a completely different

00:17:28.960 meaning because after all, it's all subjective. It's not the word of God. It's not truth. It's not

00:17:33.300 godly. He warns us not to do these things. And yes, the coffee grinds delicious Turkish coffee

00:17:39.960 to drink and then leave. But after you drink the coffee, they would actually move the cup around.

00:17:47.320 Very ritualistic, by the way. Move the cup around and whatever image or symbol the coffee grinds would

00:17:57.060 make would indicate something about your future. Yeah. You know, I'm remembering the magic eight

00:18:03.440 ball when I was little. And I remember also like the power beads that, you know, we would wear that

00:18:10.620 different colors were indicative of, um, different kind of powers that you were supposed to get even

00:18:17.440 like a mood ring. That's a kind of a way of reading, but I'm, I'm thinking of things that

00:18:22.900 maybe we don't consider divination today, which aren't, but they do seem to kind of mimic what

00:18:28.640 people are seeking through mediums. And I'm even talking about like different personality tests.

00:18:33.560 I'm talking about different, um, like essential oils. I'm not saying the oils themselves are bad,

00:18:40.220 but there are certain companies that will give you like a, a forgiveness blend or a blend that is

00:18:47.460 supposed to give you not even just like physical energy, but is supposed to give you spiritual

00:18:54.700 energy and things like that. And so it seems like what you're talking about is really this desire of

00:19:01.180 people to one, be known people really want to be known and not just in the general sense,

00:19:06.640 but a special sense, like tell me the particular deep things about me that no one else would know.

00:19:12.920 And then as you said about Genesis three, people really want, or they think they want the power

00:19:19.600 of knowing how the universe works, their place in it. They think that they can unleash and manifest

00:19:27.280 that power in their own life with the law of attraction and even speaking things into being.

00:19:33.680 We see that in certain denominations of so-called Christianity, name it and claim it. I mean,

00:19:40.160 there are a lot of different ways that this shows up even outside of just your standard,

00:19:45.080 like tarot card reading, right? It's a desire to control your outcomes, your reality,

00:19:50.380 and, uh, to control other people's realities to like manifesting. You brought that up law of

00:19:57.000 attraction. I speak a lot about the law of attraction. You are thinking that the universe,

00:20:03.540 again, going to a created thing can assist you in attaining the desires of your heart.

00:20:10.780 Where or when did you think your heart should make a decision for your life? You know, we,

00:20:17.260 we tend to go there. We have these popular sayings. We were talking about it, um, a couple of moments

00:20:22.840 ago, following your heart. We have these deceptive worldly sayings that we think we should

00:20:29.180 be in control and we can make ourselves happy. And it's all about being happy and following our

00:20:34.980 heart. But our hearts are deceptive. The Lord says, no one can know them. They're sick and wicked.

00:20:39.280 Our hearts are filled with sin and the desire to do that. We should not be doing that. But 0.97

00:20:43.880 manifesting is you have these desires of your heart and then you're putting your faith and trust in the

00:20:50.400 universe, energy. And then you're, you have to be positive. You have to believe it. You have to

00:20:55.720 visualize it. And unfortunately, like you sit, like you said, Allie, we're seeing that come into the

00:21:00.900 church in a very, very big way. There are many Christians that make vision boards and they're

00:21:06.300 going back to Habakkuk two, two to three, claiming that this is a reason, write the vision on the tablet.

00:21:12.460 Oh, a vision board is a tool of assistance in manifesting. So I did it,

00:21:17.000 made my list, my manifesting list. And then I made my board. I used to teach it too, actually.

00:21:22.840 And on the board, which was Oaktag, take the pictures.

00:21:26.660 Which was what?

00:21:27.320 That would line up. Oh, Oaktag.

00:21:29.320 What's that?

00:21:30.380 Oh, Oaktag is kind of like a big, oh, poster board.

00:21:36.040 Oh, okay. Okay. Got it. I didn't know if this was a new age term that I hadn't heard of before.

00:21:40.600 Okay. Got it.

00:21:41.360 So it's a poster board, right? And then you could take pictures, you could write words on there

00:21:46.200 of the things that you want, the perfect job, let's say, and you want it to be in Texas. So

00:21:51.700 you put the state of Texas, you put where it's going to be, what street, I mean, so specific.

00:21:57.320 And you put all these things on this board and every day you're going to look at that board and

00:22:02.020 you're going to believe it. It's already happened. It's even though it hasn't, it's, it's happening,

00:22:07.220 it's going to happen. And you have to stay so positive about it. So what happens then if something

00:22:15.380 quote unquote negative happens in your life, everything's wiped out because you're depending

00:22:20.560 upon yourself, you're depending upon this poster board, you're depending upon the universe and

00:22:26.960 you're never depending upon God because it's unrealistic to believe that you can be positive

00:22:33.140 all the time.

00:22:34.300 Yeah. And obviously that's different than just saying, you know, I have these goals

00:22:39.100 and I'm, I'm releasing them like God's will be done. This is something that I want, not

00:22:44.300 my will though, like God's will be done. That's one thing. But I have heard Christians say things 1.00

00:22:50.420 like, and you can tell me what you think about this. Like I already have the healing that I'm

00:22:56.980 praying for. I already have the success that I'm praying for. I just have to claim it in faith

00:23:02.820 in Christ. It's already mine. They kind of consider that something that was guaranteed

00:23:07.560 by Jesus's death and resurrection, that basically the effects of the curse, they should be gone.

00:23:12.740 And through faith, we can activate whatever it is, you know, that frees us from that curse. And so

00:23:17.960 if they have cancer, they might say, I claim my healing that I already have. If they want a

00:23:22.200 promotion, I claim the success that I already have in faith. Tell me what you think about that.

00:23:28.280 It's so upsetting. And that's just a twisting of scripture. I mean, they'll go back to Isaiah

00:23:32.600 and say, by his wounds, we are healed. Okay. So we're healed. That's, that's a twisting of

00:23:37.600 that scripture to say, because Jesus died on the cross for us, then we no longer should have the

00:23:43.260 cancer. We're just bound to be healed in Christ. He never says that cancer or no cancer, God can use

00:23:48.740 us and he wants to use us. It's convenient to forget that we are also in fallen bodies. We are going to

00:23:57.360 die. But our soul will go on in eternity with Lord Jesus. And that's where our eyes should be fixed.

00:24:04.200 Not in trying to secure, like you said, Ali, your will be done, not mine. How is it good enough for

00:24:11.940 Lord Jesus, but not for us in the garden of Gethsemane for him to say, he knew what was going

00:24:17.760 to happen. You want to talk about anguish and suffering and pain. And he did it willingly for us.

00:24:23.840 And I pray that people would know that scripture, especially because he said, Lord, but your will,

00:24:31.000 if this cup can pass me by, but your will be done father. Jesus sometimes didn't even have a place to

00:24:37.400 lay his head. So where are you telling me that he's just, we're just meant to be wealthy. We're just

00:24:42.480 meant to have it all be, you know, that's the prosperity gospel. That's not the real gospel.

00:24:48.060 And if you don't know the real gospel, then you can't truly be saved. You can't. And people need

00:24:53.800 to know that, that we are sinners and that Jesus Christ alone is 100% man and 100% God. And he did

00:25:02.040 step out of his kingdom of heaven into, into humanity. And he was the only one who could atone

00:25:08.480 for our sins because he committed none. We've all been born into sin. And so there's nothing that we

00:25:13.560 can do on our own to be in heaven with Lord Jesus. But if we put our faith and trust in him and not

00:25:19.820 the stars and not the universe and not name it and claim it, then the Bible says that we will be saved

00:25:26.340 when we confess with our mouth and believe in our heart that he died for us, that he was buried and

00:25:31.780 raised the third day. Hallelujah. That's everything. It's all that we need. But you look at the flesh,

00:25:36.780 that desire for more, the desire for supernatural experiences plus the Bible. This is a problem with

00:25:44.040 the sufficiency of scripture. People are not believing in the sufficiency of scripture. They

00:25:51.620 want more. Believers even want more. They want the vision. They want a supernatural appearance.

00:25:59.580 They want to see miracles around the world. They want all these things. They want to see somebody

00:26:04.140 bust out in tongues. You know, we don't need anything more than the scripture. It is sufficient

00:26:10.120 for us. And God can't choose to work miracles. Amen. He can choose to heal. He can do lots of

00:26:16.800 miraculous things that the rational mind can't understand. But saying that in order for you to

00:26:24.160 believe or to have faith or for God to prove himself powerful, X, Y, Z has to happen. That means

00:26:31.120 that you don't think that the gospel in itself is miraculous. Like, that's not enough. I mean,

00:26:36.060 what you just articulated so perfectly, the gospel, God made flesh, like that is the miracle. That is

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00:28:14.440 Let's back up and hear your testimony of how you came to know that saving gospel.

00:28:21.320 But you're in your early 20s. You're getting groomed and mentored to become a medium yourself,

00:28:27.760 which you said you had already been practicing it. But I guess my question first is how did that

00:28:32.260 really change in your early 20s after you started getting visited by the demon that you thought was

00:28:37.640 a man connected to your ex's girlfriend?

00:28:42.520 Well, I was doing psychic reading. So there is a bit of a difference between a psychic and a psychic

00:28:46.800 medium. So psychics won't necessarily claim to be communicating with deceased people in order to

00:28:54.420 give messages to their loved ones. They'll be doing more fortune telling. I would call it,

00:29:00.000 future predictions. When I became a medium, that was specific to mediumship reading. So people that

00:29:08.300 lost somebody in their life and they wanted to connect with them. So that was the shift there for

00:29:15.760 me. I still would include psychic information, future predictions, so on and so forth. And then I

00:29:23.040 actually began teaching. I began leading my own divination group and I absolutely loved it.

00:29:28.920 I absolutely loved it. And it's amazing. It's an amazing part of my testimony looking at what God

00:29:35.180 has done because I can never go back and say that I was a psychic who wanted to try on a new worldview.

00:29:42.900 I wasn't a psychic who wanted to try on Christianity, who wanted to check other things out. No, I was

00:29:49.000 perfectly content doing what I was doing until the age of 36. I was still content. But at the end of my

00:29:57.760 36th year, I actually came to a moment, Ali, of near destruction, a second of near destruction. 0.64

00:30:06.860 And I cried out on the name of Jesus Christ, which was a shocking to me as it is still to this day

00:30:12.580 saying it because why didn't I call out to my spirit guide or a deceased person? I cried on the name of

00:30:20.000 Jesus Christ. I explain it this way. Demonic oppression is a very real thing. It's a very real thing. You

00:30:28.420 mentioned possession earlier. There's possession and there's oppression. I probably was very close to being

00:30:33.220 possessed. I think of oppression this way. Imagine if somebody if you go under the water and you have

00:30:39.820 somebody with their foot on your head trying to keep you down there and they're all around you. And that was the

00:30:47.260 moment that I came to. So that was a cry for help, but not one that I contemplated, not one that I

00:30:54.280 wrestled with. Just cried out on the name of Jesus Christ. And I know that was God.

00:30:59.420 And what had happened? What was the moment of destruction?

00:31:02.180 It was that heaviness. It was that fear.

00:31:07.540 So it was an internal thing. It wasn't something externally that happened to you.

00:31:11.620 Correct.

00:31:11.860 You just felt the oppression like you were drowning and you felt this urge to call out to Christ.

00:31:18.240 Wow. So you said you didn't contemplate that. What happened from there?

00:31:22.080 Well, that left me spiritually vulnerable, to be quite honest with you, because I hadn't

00:31:25.980 heard the gospel, which I just presented a couple of moments ago. I didn't know I was a sinner that

00:31:30.380 needed to be saved. I didn't know that Jesus went to the cross for me and that he died and was buried.

00:31:37.500 I didn't know any of that. I just knew that something had happened and I knew that it was

00:31:43.400 peaceful. And I also knew I didn't want to be as this happened the next day. I didn't want to be a

00:31:50.080 psychic anymore. And I did not know why I had no idea. I had no idea why. So now, of course,

00:31:55.800 looking back, I see how God was moving. Yes.

00:31:58.540 However, the enemy did not want to lose his grip on me. That is abundantly clear to me. I was deceived

00:32:05.780 again by false teaching, books that I started reading that were heretical and leading me once

00:32:14.140 again down the wrong road away from Christ. I did stop doing the readings for a while, but then I did

00:32:21.040 go back to them. Yet, I changed my introduction. I would always give an introduction before the reading

00:32:26.880 so that the client would know, don't say anything. I'm going to be doing the speaking and just affirm

00:32:33.740 if you understand something. And instead, I changed it to, listen, I'm not God. Wait, what?

00:32:40.800 Where'd this come from? Yeah. So the whole thing had changed. My introduction had changed. And praise

00:32:46.820 God, Jesus wasn't going to let me go too far back down that road. It wasn't long after that,

00:32:52.620 that I had gone back to the readings, that I ended up having a dinner date with a friend that I met in

00:32:59.200 the divination group that I spoke about. So we had become very close and we hadn't seen each other

00:33:04.640 in a while. Little did I know she had become saved from the last time that I had seen her to this time.

00:33:11.960 And she came over for dinner and she started talking to me about Jesus. And she invited me to the church

00:33:17.400 that she had started attending. Allie, I said no. Wow. Really? I declined that invitation.

00:33:23.740 Were you offended at all? No. Was there anything angry in you or you just were disinterested?

00:33:29.200 I would say I pulled what a lot of people say to me, good for you. You do you. I'm happy for you.

00:33:37.820 Whatever makes you happy, whatever road brings you joy. And left it at that. And a month later,

00:33:44.220 I woke up that Sunday and that same prompting, I want to go to church. I want to go to that church

00:33:53.380 today, but I don't know why. Just like when I wanted to stop doing the readings, but I didn't

00:33:58.620 know why. The same prompting, that small voice just telling you, leading you, led me to that church.

00:34:06.900 And it was that day, Allie, that I heard the gospel. And I was singing this song with the

00:34:12.940 congregation. I was so overwhelmed by this church. I was used to only mass in the past,

00:34:17.020 Catholic mass. And you were in Long Island. Yes. And so I don't know how many solid churches are

00:34:23.680 in Long Island, but I'm sure, like you said, that was a little bit of a shock to you.

00:34:28.640 Yeah. That was shocking. The whole scene was shocking to me. Why do people have their hands

00:34:33.300 up in the air? They're singing songs and what are they doing? And I just started singing with them.

00:34:39.360 And that lyric, when it came to Jesus saved me, I sang it. And I flashed back to that moment when

00:34:46.380 I cried out to him months prior. And I knew it was him, Allie. I knew that he was the one who showed

00:34:52.380 up that day and set me free. I was a captive and he set me free.

00:34:57.320 Wow.

00:34:58.780 Do it every time. And I started crying that day in that church of tears of joy, tears of freedom.

00:35:04.920 And when I left the church, 15 minute ride home, no contemplation, I got home and I Google

00:35:12.400 searched, what does the Bible say about psychic mediums? I was so convicted. And it just makes

00:35:19.680 so much sense though that the Lord, his agenda for my life would be to get me away from that

00:35:26.360 because I knew that day that I was going to follow Christ.

00:35:29.560 Wow.

00:35:29.960 I knew it. And I quit my job that day, almost 11 years ago.

00:35:34.640 And at that point, that was how you were living. That's how you were making your money. And so

00:35:40.300 that's a huge leap of faith in itself, in addition to just believing in Christ. So what did that look

00:35:46.520 like?

00:35:47.380 Yeah, that was huge. I'm glad you brought that up because I would love to encourage

00:35:51.400 people out there today that if you're on that cusp or you're thinking about leaving the new age behind,

00:35:58.420 don't be afraid. God is a good God. He is our provider and he will always give what we need.

00:36:04.420 Of course, I was on top of the world in that moment. And then a week later, it's like, wait a

00:36:09.820 minute, that was my job. What's going to happen now? So a little bit of that concern and I just

00:36:15.360 entrusted it to the Lord and had a roof over my head and food in my stomach and the Lord provided

00:36:22.240 then and now.

00:36:24.080 Wow. And now you're in full-time ministry and you focus on helping people leave the new age and also

00:36:29.540 just Christians understanding the lies of the new age, right? 0.99

00:36:32.420 Yes, absolutely. Because the enemy is at large and is current and active. And in the times that

00:36:41.340 we live in, Allie, we see the psychics on TV, like you mentioned, of course, Teresa, which again,

00:36:48.200 we're praying for these psychics, we're praying for the mediums, but we're seeing the tension

00:36:52.200 in the world. We're seeing tension even in the microcosm of our life, personally speaking.

00:36:58.800 What's going on in your life? What's going on with your kids? And people will get tempted in

00:37:03.300 their vulnerability and their weakness for answers, for control, for certainty about the

00:37:10.060 future here and eternally. And the enemy will make it look very alluring, very attractive

00:37:16.800 and using social media to do so. And my concern especially is for the children because he is

00:37:23.760 targeting the children via crystals manifesting, Instagram, TikTok. You could have a reading out,

00:37:31.920 Sage burning. Sage burning. Witch talk. Witch talk is huge. Meditating in schools. The smudging is

00:37:40.100 in schools too. What's smudging? Is the sage burning. So believing that you could clean out

00:37:45.380 your space. Yeah. And that's all seen as neutral. It's all seen as like helping a child build their

00:37:51.020 social, emotional learning capacity, helping them build their empathy. That's a big word that's kind

00:37:58.080 of used. And the difference between meditating, you know, biblically and meditating in the new age

00:38:04.040 is that biblically you're meditating on truth, on the word of God. You're dwelling on what scripture

00:38:09.280 says. But in, correct me if I'm wrong, but in the new age meditation, you are emptying, right? You're

00:38:15.700 emptying your mind, which really can just make you vulnerable to demonic attacks, right?

00:38:20.680 One hundred percent. That's exactly what it does. Those entities, you are inviting them in. Trust me,

00:38:26.040 when you are, when a part of you is quiet, when a part of you is empty. I used to practice that

00:38:32.580 before my readings. It was a part of my ritual in order to channel more effectively. Right.

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00:39:53.980 When we think of the new age and everything that you've just described, I think a lot of people

00:39:59.700 think of it as more of these progressive, hippie, feminist, witchy women, but we don't think of it 0.66

00:40:06.900 in the context of what are typically called prophecies today. But we see that a lot, I would

00:40:14.260 say on the more, I don't know if we're just talking politics, like conservative end of the

00:40:18.280 spectrum. It seems like since Trump came to office, there's a lot of people who claim to have special

00:40:23.500 knowledge of the United States and of Trump. And I see a lot of, and during COVID too, like you

00:40:29.460 mentioned, when people are in these emotionally vulnerable times, in turbulent times, they're

00:40:34.740 turning to not just mediums, but these people who say that they're a prophet from God. But so far,

00:40:40.660 all these prophecies that I've seen, all these prophets, they're never 100% right, or they'll get

00:40:47.140 one prophecy right and one completely wrong, or the prophecy will be half right. And you have people

00:40:53.800 who call themselves Christians really eating this up and saying, no, that's true. That person is a 1.00

00:40:58.940 messenger from God. They're telling us what we need to know about Trump or the future of America.

00:41:03.680 How do we discern the difference between a true prophecy and then what is really a kind of psychic

00:41:11.360 reading that is using the facade of prophecy to try to make it seem Christian?

00:41:18.360 It's great that you brought it up because of course, we know that the enemy is a counterfeit. So

00:41:22.560 psychic communication is already the counterfeit of prophecy, which is declaring God's word.

00:41:28.700 You hit the nail on the head. If someone is claiming to be a prophet and they get any part of it wrong,

00:41:33.400 or they get any of their other prophecies incorrect, they are clearly a false prophet.

00:41:38.800 They are not hearing from God and God is extremely clear about this in his word. When you hear from

00:41:46.440 God, do you think God needs help? Do you think that God will confuse a situation? If he's going to speak

00:41:52.480 to you, you're going to hear it clearly and authoritatively and you'll speak it and it will

00:41:56.860 be true 100% of the time and come to pass. We are told to test the spirits in 1 John 4.1.

00:42:04.360 And the Lord has put this in place, testing the spirits, of course, because there would be demons

00:42:09.400 providing information. So we need to test everything by the word of God. And I think that goes back

00:42:16.840 again, Ali, why are we not just trusting in the Lord? Why are we looking for these prophets? Why are

00:42:21.320 we looking for this extra information? And then it turns people away again from our victory in Christ,

00:42:29.260 our comfort in Christ, knowing that we know the one who knows all things. Yes, it can be anxiety

00:42:38.220 provoking, looking at what's happening in our country, looking at the way the enemy has a grip

00:42:44.840 on so many people. But in Christ, we have what is all that we need. We have heaven that awaits us. And

00:42:54.820 the Lord encourages us to keep our eyes on things of above and to remember that our citizenship is

00:43:01.880 not here. All of this is going to pass away, but our citizenship is in heaven. This is just a stop, a

00:43:09.540 layover. This is a layover and our home is in heaven. But why again, are we not trusting in the Lord? We

00:43:15.360 don't need to go to man. And I'm not saying that the Lord couldn't raise up a prophet. He can do whatever

00:43:20.020 he wants to do. But when you start putting your faith and hope and peace in people calling themselves

00:43:30.360 prophets and you're just letting it go, you are getting into a very dangerous place of psychic

00:43:38.300 communication. And you can be a Christian and certainly attacked or oppressed by the evil one. 0.98

00:43:44.960 So you can be a Christian and get a psychic attack and then you're just going to claim it's a prophecy. 0.92

00:43:49.040 Yeah. So why would I want to go listen to you when I know that that could happen? Yeah. That the enemy

00:43:56.180 could even trick the elect. And as you said, Satan always uses a little bit of truth. When you thought

00:44:04.820 that you were meeting that young man through your dream and that person was real, that young person

00:44:10.480 named Michael was real, you knew how he had died and all of that. Some people think, well, if this thing is

00:44:16.520 true, it must be a special gift from the Lord or it must be a special gift from the other side. But

00:44:22.380 you know, when Satan was tempting Jesus in the wilderness, he used scripture, he used Bible verses

00:44:28.400 to tempt Jesus. And kind of the same temptation that he tempted Eve with, that he tempts us with today,

00:44:36.380 he tempted Jesus with escape from pain, escape from suffering, authority, as if Satan has the

00:44:43.620 authority to give Jesus authority. But that's, you know, you can have everything and you can escape all

00:44:49.480 of the trouble ahead of you. That's basically what we are seeking through psychic readings. We are

00:44:54.360 seeking comfort. We are seeking understanding, solace, supernatural knowledge. But scripture tells

00:44:59.740 us that we have one mediator between God and man, and that is Jesus. And that's beautiful because we read

00:45:05.860 in John 1 that Jesus was full of grace and truth, full of grace and truth. And we read in 1 John 4,

00:45:12.200 8 that God is love. Isn't that beautiful? That when you have that closed connection, it's a closed

00:45:18.440 connection, God, Jesus, man, you can trust that every single stop in that connection is fully true,

00:45:25.720 fully loving, fully gracious, fully light. And it's not, you know, it's not Satan disguising himself

00:45:34.640 as an angel of light, which really reminds me of that phrase that we hear a lot in new age circles,

00:45:39.940 love and light, love and light, love and light. Well, isn't that just, you know, them trying to be

00:45:44.800 God who is love, who is light? What is meant like when we hear that in new age circles, love and light?

00:45:50.260 It goes back to energy. It goes back to positivity. I'm just going to send you some love. I'm just going

00:45:57.400 to send you some light. And I'm just, you know, positive and all that type of, and it's, it's just

00:46:03.980 the false, you described it perfectly as the false love and the false light. The true love would be

00:46:10.180 sharing the gospel with somebody, pointing people to Christ and not to enable their sin or support

00:46:18.180 their sin. You know, love is love. You know, the world is plagued by the slogans of the evil one.

00:46:25.920 That's what that is. Love and light. That's what I call it. It's a slogan of the devil. That's what

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00:47:26.960 We got to close out soon. So I'm going to end on a controversial question. Yoga.

00:47:32.300 Is it fine for Christians to say, do yoga positions? Maybe they're doing it to worship 1.00

00:47:40.040 music and they're not thinking about yoking themselves to a Hindu God. Is that fine? Or

00:47:46.920 is it still opening yourself up to the demonic? I'm going to say this with all the love in my heart

00:47:53.640 so that people would not be led astray. No, you cannot do yoga. Don't do yoga. I mean,

00:48:01.860 you could do whatever you want, but I would encourage you to stay away from yoga because

00:48:05.220 those postures are deliberately worshiping Hindu deities, false gods. It's idolatrous. 1.00

00:48:12.020 It's horrible. It's demonic. And you cannot throw some praise music on and make it something that it

00:48:22.820 isn't. You cannot do that. That would be, I love how Doreen says, that would be like putting a

00:48:27.220 scripture verse on a Ouija board. You can't do that. You're not tricking anybody. It's still the

00:48:33.060 postures. You're still doing them. They are worshiping and honoring Hindu deities. It is,

00:48:39.680 I really would encourage people to stay away from it. It's not just stretching and breathing. Remember,

00:48:45.080 that's the illusion. There has to be something that the devil makes it look like something that

00:48:51.520 it's not so that you would get involved with it, bringing demonic oppression into your life,

00:48:57.120 leading you into disobedience to God, because even if you don't know, you're still doing it.

00:49:02.420 And that's dangerous for you spiritually. Yes. And I just think about parents too. You mentioned

00:49:08.220 all the things that are targeting children. Satan has always had it out for children. They're so

00:49:12.920 physically and mentally vulnerable. And I think about all these things that are seen as innocent,

00:49:18.160 even for kids at school, things like yoga, things like emptying your mind through meditation,

00:49:24.660 energy, vibrations, witch talk, and even the movies and the shows and the books. I think about the

00:49:32.620 books that I read as a teenager and my parents didn't really know. I think they were happy that I was

00:49:36.520 reading and I did read a lot, but I read a lot of Twilight. I read a lot of witchcraft books,

00:49:42.420 a lot of supernatural books. And I'm not saying all fantasy and fiction is bad. C.S. Lewis has its own

00:49:48.320 fantasy. Lord of the Rings has its own fantasy. But I do think, I mean, I just remember being so

00:49:55.220 feeling emotionally oppressed when I was reading something like Twilight. I actually, and this is

00:49:59.900 too much of a conversation for us to get too far into, but I'm just thinking about all the different

00:50:04.260 ways that this can show up, especially for kids. Like I remember reading the second Twilight book

00:50:08.560 as soon as it came out. That's how old I am. And I was literally depressed, depressed for like days

00:50:18.080 and days. And I just, and some of that's just emotional, hormonal, but I just think about the

00:50:23.280 power that those kind of supernatural, dark witchcraft stories have over impressionable teen

00:50:30.000 girls. And I really think it can have a foothold in their lives spiritually. And who knows, could lead 0.88

00:50:37.840 them down a path like toward mediums and things like that. But it certainly is inhibiting a close

00:50:43.580 relationship with Christ. Don't you think? Absolutely. A hundred percent. And I'm, I'm thinking

00:50:48.520 while you're talking also of the music industry, I don't, I know that would be another long conversation.

00:50:53.800 Swift, Taylor. What do you think about that? Let's just end on something super controversial.

00:50:59.480 Let's go. I know you like the controversial stuff, Allie. Well, people want to know this

00:51:03.380 kind of stuff. It's only controversial because these things are popular and what is popular

00:51:06.580 has to be spoken into. So yes. Okay. I'm happy to actually speak about it. I'm very passionate

00:51:11.220 on this topic. And of course we're seeing it not only with Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Madonna is such a

00:51:17.480 repeat offender, uh, Lady Gaga, but Taylor Swift presents as this Christian looking, innocent 0.96

00:51:25.380 girl years ago. And then you see the darkness boldly, blatantly when people are already Swifties,

00:51:34.020 they're already hooked. This is not, this is, this is, it's the word I want to use. This is, um,

00:51:41.840 Oh, Allie, I'm thinking of how this is mapped out. This is planned out. This is not a surprise.

00:51:46.580 Strategic. Strategic. This is strategic. I believe on behalf of the enemy to rope people in. And then

00:51:53.440 it's like, now I'm going to hit you with my agendas because you are already a cult follower,

00:52:00.720 C-U-L-T. And her music boldly promotes new age ideologies and concepts. Karma, the invisible

00:52:12.020 string theory. They are. I don't even know what that is. Oh, okay. So the idea is that there's an

00:52:20.340 invisible string. You already had me at that part, right? So there's an invisible string wrapped around

00:52:24.800 your thumb, your pinky, whatever. And there's one wrapped around somebody else's thumb or pinky

00:52:30.520 that you've crossed paths with at some point in your life. And because of that, okay, you are

00:52:38.260 really met. Maybe that's your, here we go. Shift into another new age. Cause that's how the new age

00:52:43.540 works. One equals another one equals another twin flame soulmate. That must be your soulmate or your

00:52:49.900 twin flame. It doesn't matter if you're married. That's okay. You don't want to let this chance

00:52:54.060 pass you by. You want to go for this invisible string. We crossed paths. We met at the grocery store

00:53:00.200 seven years ago. And again, at the seven 11. Wow. This must be, I mean, I'm really kind of

00:53:07.000 understating it, but the idea is that once again, that you have this energetic soulmate twin flame,

00:53:18.580 which are all lies and doctrines of demons. And she pushes these all out in her music. And then what

00:53:26.480 happens? Then you have it go viral on Tik TOK and you have people making these videos. They had a whole

00:53:31.600 twin flame, uh, docu documentary on Netflix. It was, it was difficult. I couldn't really get through

00:53:37.880 it. It was so difficult to watch. It was sad and sickening, but back to Taylor, who really is a

00:53:43.400 serial dater. And then is telling us about these relationships and dropping demonic symbols. I'm

00:53:50.580 sorry. I'm going to say it at the Superbowl with, well, I shouldn't say that she did it. I'm sorry if

00:53:54.360 her friend, her friend did it. Forgive me. Yeah. However, we are seeing her, uh, doing witchcraft 0.93

00:54:00.380 on the stage and people have a way of justifying it and making excuses for it. That's just choreography.

00:54:07.100 Um, just like we're seeing at the Olympics, what they did at the Olympics, the open, I know that's

00:54:10.940 another, we're going from one controversial thing to the next, but, uh, yeah. But the point is that

00:54:15.700 we're seeing it in pop culture and it is always presented. It seems like it's something that is

00:54:20.840 beautiful and innocuous and she is, you know, Taylor Swift is, is beautiful. She is beautiful.

00:54:26.520 And she has a lot of really good songs, a lot of very catchy songs. And her brand, I think is very

00:54:32.840 palatable for the mainstream because she's this bright, cheery blonde woman who used to be a country

00:54:39.260 star. And, um, but you're right. There's certainly a God of self worship there, not just in her music

00:54:46.020 and really a lot of pop music today. Um, but I hadn't thought about or heard about this twin flame

00:54:52.880 thing and the invisible string. So that's really interesting. So the point is be on the lookout.

00:54:59.360 Don't be paranoid. It's not like, cause I do think that there's a tendency sometimes for people to try

00:55:04.340 to look for symbols in everything. And that can almost make you, it can almost drive you crazy.

00:55:11.340 Mm-hmm. And it can also prohibit you from seeing, okay, well, how is Satan tempting you in your own

00:55:17.740 life? Like where's the sin in your own life? Because we can kind of only be looking for the symbols

00:55:22.840 out there and not looking for the more subtle ways that Satan is tempting us, working in our lives,

00:55:29.920 oppressing us with different fears. And so there is a balance there, wouldn't you say?

00:55:34.340 Absolutely. A hundred percent. I am thinking of the children again and how these people become,

00:55:39.780 they become role models. And then if a Christian is so, um, involved with, let's say, I'm just going

00:55:49.080 to, again, just for the sake of the example of Taylor Swift, let's say, cause I happen to know

00:55:52.320 some Christian ladies that are calling themselves Swifties, letting their young girls listen. And 0.99

00:55:58.680 when she promotes, I hate to belabor the point, but when she, when she promotes anti-Christian,

00:56:03.720 I mean, bold, again, I'm with you, Ali. I think that you, you can listen to, I'm, I listen to

00:56:09.800 secular music, you know, I, I do from time to time. Uh, but I would be very discerning and very

00:56:15.620 careful when you have, I mean, they need to calm down was all about Christians and the video having, 1.00

00:56:22.620 um, sexual immorality in it, feeding this false Jesus communion. And it's just very sad and painting 0.87

00:56:29.920 Christians as hillbillies that don't know how to spell. I think that you have to, I think when 1.00

00:56:34.760 it's so in your face, I would, I would steer clear of that. But yes, I agree with you. Of course we

00:56:40.580 should be looking in the mirror. We should be coming to Christ every day, repenting for our sins. We

00:56:46.160 should be confessing and asking the Lord to show us the parts of our hearts that need to grow, that

00:56:53.100 need to be corrected. Yes. And amen. Where can people find you to follow you, learn more about

00:56:59.280 your ministry and just hear more from you if they want to? Yeah. My website would be the

00:57:04.000 best place to go www.expsychicsaved.com. That's it. Expsychicsaved.com. Yeah. My new book is going

00:57:13.480 to be coming out soon. Yeah. When? I'm excited. Within the next couple of months, I just finally

00:57:17.720 got a title for it. Okay. Awesome. Okay. So people can be on the lookout for that. They can check your

00:57:23.200 website for that. That's wonderful. That's going to bless so many people. Thank you so much, Jen. Thanks for

00:57:28.360 having the courage to share your testimony and praise God for everything that you're talking

00:57:32.240 about. I really appreciate you. Thank you, Allie. I appreciate you too. God bless you.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 06, 2024

Ep 1046 ｜ Ex-Psychic on Demonic Possession & Taylor Swift ｜ Guest： Jenn Nizza

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