Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1052 ｜ Your 'USA Made' Beef Might Actually Be from China ｜ Guests： Ben & Corley Spell

00:00:00.640 Ben and Corley Spell started Good Rancher several years ago, delivering American meat right to your front door.

00:00:08.820 Today, they are here to talk about how their business has developed just amazingly over the past few years

00:00:14.600 and to tell you what you don't know but need to know about American farming and ranching

00:00:21.620 and the meat that is being imported into the United States without your knowledge.

00:00:27.340 Corley is also going to share with us her recent cancer journey and just how the Lord has shown up for their family.

00:00:35.300 It's a really educational and such an encouraging conversation.

00:00:39.140 You are going to love this.

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00:00:57.340 Ben and Corley, thanks so much for taking the time to join us again.

00:01:03.260 All right.

00:01:03.840 You were on for the first time a couple of years ago.

00:01:07.080 It's been about three plus years that we've been working together as part of the show.

00:01:12.720 So in the last couple of years, just give us a recap on how Good Ranchers has grown and all that.

00:01:20.340 Wow.

00:01:20.900 Yeah.

00:01:21.380 First of all, thanks for having us.

00:01:22.820 Yes.

00:01:23.100 So glad to be back.

00:01:24.020 I can't believe it's been like two years since we've been here and wow, how things can change.

00:01:31.220 I guess we just had Daisy.

00:01:33.420 Is that right?

00:01:34.380 Yeah.

00:01:34.640 We had our fourth baby in 2022.

00:01:39.220 Yeah.

00:01:39.540 Okay.

00:01:39.960 It's a world.

00:01:40.660 Yeah.

00:01:41.220 We, um.

00:01:41.860 You know, having kids.

00:01:42.420 A lot has happened.

00:01:43.380 Yeah.

00:01:43.760 Yeah.

00:01:43.940 So right now we have a six-year-old boy, a five-year-old boy, a four-year-old girl as of yesterday and a two-and-a-half-year-old girl.

00:01:51.980 Y'all are just like a tiny bit busy.

00:01:53.660 Yeah.

00:01:54.000 Just a little.

00:01:54.780 Just a little.

00:01:55.560 But last year was the first year of the business, um, of running the business that we, Corley wasn't pregnant or we had a newborn.

00:02:03.020 How was that?

00:02:03.640 That was, it's, it's, there's light at the end of the tunnel.

00:02:06.440 Yes.

00:02:06.680 Yes.

00:02:07.100 It's getting, it's getting, um, fun.

00:02:09.980 So many people, uh, told us early on, especially having so many children back to back, um, which newborn season for me is kind of not, not my favorite.

00:02:20.100 Um, and so, and so.

00:02:22.040 That's weird.

00:02:22.560 Why not?

00:02:23.080 Right.

00:02:23.600 Uh, and so many people are like, oh, it only gets harder.

00:02:26.360 And I'm like, that can't be true.

00:02:28.160 No.

00:02:28.200 And it's not true.

00:02:29.040 I don't think that's true either.

00:02:30.300 Once they can be a little bit more durable and, um, like Bear makes his own ham sandwiches.

00:02:36.940 So.

00:02:37.700 Yeah.

00:02:38.280 That's good.

00:02:39.100 Yeah.

00:02:39.340 You think when they're a little more self-sufficient.

00:02:41.280 Yeah.

00:02:41.660 Uh, yeah.

00:02:42.080 A lot has happened in the last two years.

00:02:44.040 Um, and thank you to your listeners and your show and support.

00:02:48.860 Like we've been, um, growing like crazy and, um, we never thought we would be here.

00:02:55.300 Um, um, for those of you who don't know, we, uh, we was in full-time ministry working at a church in Houston and God called us to start a meat company and we knew nothing about agriculture, knew nothing about being entrepreneurs or business.

00:03:09.600 But, um, there's been something in my spirit lately of, uh, that I've been just wanting to share with more people and it's when God says, go, go.

00:03:19.500 Um, and we were reading in Mark yesterday at a Bible study at our church and, and, uh, and it was how Matthew was called and it says that Jesus was, um, uh, walking by and he saw Levi and he told him to follow him.

00:03:34.180 And then he immediately went and followed him.

00:03:37.180 Um, and, um, and that was just such a reminder of like, you don't have to ask a bunch of questions when God says, go, you go.

00:03:44.540 And he's going to, he's going to equip you.

00:03:46.100 He's going to provide for you.

00:03:47.080 He's going to go before you.

00:03:48.000 And that's truly been our journey.

00:03:49.720 It's truly been our story.

00:03:50.960 Um, and, you know, we started in 2018, um, after, you know, just having a newborn and didn't know anything about anything.

00:04:01.920 And, uh, but God just really prepared the way and opened up the right doors and closed the wrong doors.

00:04:07.500 And, um, and then, you know, we started selling out of trucks and parking lots.

00:04:11.940 And, um, then we, uh, launched online because the world went, you know, shut down in 2020 because of COVID.

00:04:20.320 And, um, yeah, and, uh, we've just been in, in, even in our space, we've been seeing tremendous growth these last few years.

00:04:29.720 And so many other e-commerce companies, um, in our space, uh, have been, as I get to know more people and talking, um, they can't believe that we're continuing to grow.

00:04:40.260 Like we grew significantly last year and we're growing again this year and so many others are really, um, or, or not growing or struggling, staying in business.

00:04:51.800 And, and I, it's just a complete testament to God called us to do it.

00:04:55.760 And we're, you know, we're still following that.

00:04:58.600 Yeah.

00:04:58.840 I'm so curious how you guys decided to kind of forge your marketing and advertising strategy because it has been so creative, so effective.

00:05:07.520 You've partnered with so many conservative podcasters and conservative shows over the past few years.

00:05:13.920 Like at what moment, maybe it wasn't just one moment, but did you say, okay, this is what we're going to do.

00:05:19.420 We're going to basically be like the meat company of the conservative podcasters.

00:05:23.800 I don't know if that's what your thought was, but it's brilliant if so.

00:05:27.720 It's, it's, it is crazy how that kind of like just evolved and happened.

00:05:31.000 And by crazy, I mean, obviously God's hand was all over this, but I mean, it was in the very beginning.

00:05:36.880 We were just trying to think of, okay, who, who want, who would want to support what we want to support with our business, with America first families, um, ethically sourced, responsibly raised, all those things.

00:05:50.560 And I was like, well, it's someone like me.

00:05:52.960 And I'm like, what do I like?

00:05:54.280 And I'm like, I like Allie.

00:05:56.700 And then from there, you just kind of, you know, connect the dots.

00:05:59.960 What actually started a little bit before Charlie Kirk was the first and we, and we wanted to support Turning Point USA because we love them as an organization and what, and, you know, having young children and family and, you know, actually caring about the future of our country.

00:06:14.120 Um, so we wanted to support Turning Point and, um, and, and then, so we started sponsoring Charlie's podcast and it worked well for us.

00:06:26.040 And, um, and then the same with your podcast, Coralie, um, I don't think you remember, but we weren't really thinking that you would do great for us.

00:06:35.980 No offense.

00:06:36.480 Um, but Coralie loved your show and wanted to support your show.

00:06:39.680 And she's like, Hey.

00:06:40.400 I knew you would do great.

00:06:43.560 Um, but no, I'm saying like, it wasn't a, we think this is like, we, we didn't have like the marketing strategy of this is how we're going to build our brand or build the business.

00:06:52.560 We were in the early on, we were wanting to support like causes people that we believed in, um, and, uh, like Charlie Kirk and then yourself.

00:07:01.120 And then, and then that's when we started connecting the dots of, of kind of the conservative political commentary.

00:07:09.320 Yeah.

00:07:10.120 Yeah.

00:07:10.340 And we're still using that same strategy and like going into newer markets and newer segments.

00:07:15.320 Like, okay, where else is this listener at?

00:07:18.500 Where are they spending their dollars, their time, stuff like that with like IndyCar.

00:07:23.500 Yeah.

00:07:23.800 That's why we, we did that.

00:07:24.900 Cause we saw a lot of, um, play over there.

00:07:28.280 Um, has there ever been a moment where you got the attention of like someone, I don't know, in media that you were like, well, this person knows who we are or has talked about us.

00:07:41.720 Joe Rogan.

00:07:42.520 Okay.

00:07:42.900 So tell me, tell me about that.

00:07:44.380 Cause I know that, I think I've seen y'all interact maybe on Instagram or something.

00:07:48.140 So tell me about that.

00:07:49.060 Cause I mean, that's huge.

00:07:50.360 Oh my gosh.

00:07:50.960 That's the biggest.

00:07:51.520 I still remember that day.

00:07:53.440 It was last January.

00:07:56.200 Yeah.

00:07:56.640 We were just, it was a Saturday and, uh, we were just at home with the kids.

00:08:00.800 And I think it was either you or me, but we were like, babe, babe, babe, babe, babe, babe, babe, babe.

00:08:07.140 Alarms are going off.

00:08:08.600 Yeah.

00:08:09.120 Yeah.

00:08:09.360 Yeah.

00:08:09.520 Joe Rogan shared one of our, and we had noticed a few weeks or maybe a few months before.

00:08:13.580 I was like, Hey, Joe Rogan follows good ranchers.

00:08:16.180 That's pretty cool.

00:08:16.960 Yeah.

00:08:17.260 And, um, but never thought that he would like share or repost anything.

00:08:22.640 And yeah, he did a hard repost, um, and, uh, uh, on, on one of our, on one of our, um,

00:08:31.080 blogs, on one of our blogs.

00:08:32.040 Thank you.

00:08:33.220 And we just really took off with his, I mean, we got tens of multiple tens of thousands of

00:08:39.420 followers like that day.

00:08:41.040 And, uh, which Instagram is really hard to grow on these days.

00:08:44.720 Um, so yeah, that was him.

00:08:46.320 Yeah.

00:08:46.680 Yeah.

00:08:47.080 I can imagine that y'all haven't gotten on the show yet, right?

00:08:51.460 Maybe one day, maybe one day, maybe that would be awesome.

00:08:58.740 Okay.

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00:10:16.840 So you said then that you doubted, you doubted the relatable audience.

00:10:20.880 You doubted us, but then you never finished that thought.

00:10:24.640 Oh, no.

00:10:25.340 Allie, we love you.

00:10:28.740 We love your audience.

00:10:30.200 We love your show.

00:10:32.100 And I mean, and you've grown so much over the last few years.

00:10:34.820 Your show's grown over the last few years.

00:10:37.680 And yeah, it's been amazing.

00:10:39.760 Like, and we're grateful to be here.

00:10:41.940 We're grateful to be a part of the blaze.

00:10:43.440 And I think that like, I don't think either of us really knew because for me, it was such

00:10:47.600 a unique product to advertise because I hadn't before.

00:10:50.400 And I have such a female dominant audience. 0.51

00:10:52.980 And I think we like, we learned a lot too that, oh, it's largely women who are like, 1.00

00:10:58.460 oh, I don't want to go to the grocery store anymore.

00:11:00.820 And this is a lot more convenient.

00:11:03.460 Isn't it so freeing just to be able to just get your produce?

00:11:07.100 100%.

00:11:07.500 I mean, you're still spending like a couple hundred dollars, but.

00:11:10.720 Yeah.

00:11:11.200 But just to not have to worry about that and to wonder if the sticker that says made in

00:11:15.960 the USA means made in the USA or it means packaged in the USA.

00:11:20.840 Yeah.

00:11:21.060 It's peace of mind.

00:11:22.320 It's getting harder and harder now that they keep changing laws and passing different things.

00:11:31.900 And it's so hard for consumers to know who to trust and how to trust.

00:11:36.440 Um, cause now they've opened up, um, you can, you can import, um, from, it's mostly coming

00:11:46.180 from Mexico, but you can import it as long as it's in a feed lot in the United States for

00:11:52.240 90 days, it can get a, now it can get a USDA grade where before it can only be USDA inspected.

00:11:59.440 It could say product of USA and say USDA inspect it.

00:12:03.120 But now as long as it's sits in a feed lot, which you don't want anyway, but, um, it can

00:12:09.760 get a USDA grade, which could grade out USDA prime, which the grocery store, um, um, you

00:12:15.480 know, USDA prime or USDA choice, um, those used to be limited for born, raised and harvested,

00:12:20.920 um, in the, in the U S only.

00:12:23.620 And now as long as, as long as it's in a feed lot for 90 days, um, they can get a USDA grade

00:12:30.240 as well.

00:12:30.680 So they keep changing things, uh, that make it less transparent for the consumer.

00:12:35.660 Um, so we're actually in the process of now combating that and making sure that we have

00:12:41.780 full transparency, even to our customers, um, you know, that born, raised and harvested

00:12:47.940 or born, raised, um, and made in America, um, cause some people don't like harvested, but

00:12:53.620 you know, it is what we have to do.

00:12:55.100 Um, but, um, yeah, we're, you know, fighting to take another step to, to make, um, born,

00:13:04.100 raised and harvested or born, raised and made in America, a USDA claim that has to be on

00:13:08.540 there.

00:13:08.760 And why is that important for them to be born in the U S it, um, American agriculture

00:13:16.540 or agriculture is the backbone of our country and, and, um, farms and ranches are going

00:13:23.940 out of business at an alarming rate because they can't, they, I think the average age of

00:13:30.700 a rancher right now is 58.

00:13:34.880 It's, it's a dying.

00:13:36.180 And these, yes, ranches that have been around for hundreds of years and generational, um,

00:13:41.260 we're having to close their doors because they can't keep up.

00:13:44.280 Like the price of meat keeps going up and the price that the ranchers get, um, is basically

00:13:51.440 staying the same, uh, from decades ago.

00:13:54.800 Um, this year was a little bit better, uh, honestly, but, uh, cause supply has been low,

00:14:00.500 but as a whole, the American ranchers, um, the independent ranches, they can't keep up

00:14:09.160 with the big conglomerates of, you know, your, the, the three biggest meat, um, they call

00:14:18.160 them the three, the big three, the big packers.

00:14:21.080 Um, they just can't keep up with the billions of pounds that get imported over 3 billion

00:14:27.320 pounds of beef imported last year.

00:14:29.440 A lot cheaper, right?

00:14:30.640 It's, it's a lot cheaper and it's far inferior to what we raise here.

00:14:36.120 So how do y'all, how do y'all navigate that?

00:14:38.700 Because I'm sure that makes your job a lot harder, especially as they started expanding

00:14:43.620 the definition of made in the U S as you said, you're like, now you're having to investigate,

00:14:48.240 okay, were these really born in the U S whereas maybe before you could just kind of trust it.

00:14:52.420 Um, like how are y'all, how are y'all doing that?

00:14:56.260 It just seems like that in and of itself would be a full-time job.

00:14:59.820 Yeah.

00:15:00.100 Putting in the work and I mean, I'm hiring the staff to help do it.

00:15:03.760 I mean, you're, you're right.

00:15:05.000 Like it does like add a whole other position.

00:15:07.080 I have meetings next, I'm flying to, um, Phoenix, Arizona, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

00:15:12.640 next week and have meetings looking at all of this and how we're changing and adapting.

00:15:17.240 And, and then at the end of the month, I'm going to Kansas to, to, uh, we're, you know,

00:15:22.780 we're constantly looking at new supplies, looking at new farms, vetting, um, new things.

00:15:28.520 So, I mean, we just stay very involved.

00:15:30.420 Um, and I think that's when it's important.

00:15:32.240 Because we have so much time.

00:15:33.860 Yeah.

00:15:34.740 But I think that's when it's important to really like,

00:15:36.980 know who you're supporting with your money, like who's running the company and what decisions

00:15:41.100 are they making?

00:15:41.740 Because yes, it would be so easy for us just to accept the inferior product, the cheaper

00:15:47.240 price tag and sell that.

00:15:48.820 But that's not what we want.

00:15:50.100 That's not what our customer wants.

00:15:51.320 And so even though it is more work, I mean, we care about it.

00:15:55.180 And more expensive.

00:15:56.580 I mean, truthfully, like it's, and we keep getting met with, um, as there's supply issues,

00:16:02.520 the price goes up.

00:16:03.660 And so, and I, I mean, our price is up, the price of what we buy product up at, uh, right

00:16:11.080 now is up.

00:16:12.140 Um, I think the last time I looked 180% over two years ago, but our prices haven't went

00:16:19.600 up 180%.

00:16:21.020 Like, um, and, and they just keep going up and our CFO keeps telling me, like, you gotta

00:16:26.940 raise prices.

00:16:27.980 And, uh, but we, you know, we always set out that we want to, like, we want to be able

00:16:34.000 to provide an amazing product, transparency, and, uh, you know, that you can trust.

00:16:41.620 Um, and we want people to be able to afford it.

00:16:43.520 Like we don't want it to have to be a special occasion.

00:16:45.740 We want, that's why we, that's why we launched the weekly essential boxes this year.

00:16:49.220 Cause we want, um, we know that the grocery store is putting a, a hurt on everyone's wallet.

00:16:55.400 Um, and, and we are not the cheapest.

00:16:58.440 It's just, it's, but you know, if you go to the grocery store, you can spend less than,

00:17:05.220 um, than you would spend with us.

00:17:07.620 But, um, the quality is not the same.

00:17:11.120 It's not apples to apples.

00:17:12.380 And, you know, we, we care about what we put in our body.

00:17:15.260 I think about food is, food is fuel.

00:17:18.880 Yeah.

00:17:19.300 Uh, and, and, you know, we should be, our body's a temple and we should be putting,

00:17:25.400 quality into it.

00:17:26.940 And you're paying for not just the quality, but you're paying for the convenience, which

00:17:31.160 is one of the biggest aspects for me.

00:17:34.300 I mean, I also have, you know, kids five and under.

00:17:37.240 And so not having to go to the grocery store to get my meat, not having to think, I don't

00:17:42.860 want to think too.

00:17:43.560 It's just too much mental energy to be like, okay, how can I tell if this cow was born

00:17:47.440 in the U S like, I don't want to do that.

00:17:49.320 I want other people to do that for me.

00:17:51.360 Um, and I wanted to show up on my front door, you're paying for like the packaging, the

00:17:56.440 dry ice, all the stuff that is necessary, especially in the heat to get that meat to

00:18:01.260 frozen, which it still is incredibly.

00:18:03.780 Um, and to have that peace of mind, I think it's, it is, it 100% is worth the extra dollars.

00:18:10.280 And I also think that in the end, it does save you money, not just with health because

00:18:16.300 you're making an investment in your health.

00:18:17.860 But I spend less time at the grocery store because I always have meat there.

00:18:22.600 And it's like, if I have nothing else, at least I can cook chicken.

00:18:25.780 And so I don't go to the grocery store as much.

00:18:27.980 And so I don't spend money on things that I don't need.

00:18:30.720 Yeah.

00:18:30.960 Um, and so, yeah, there's, there's a lot.

00:18:33.440 Yeah.

00:18:33.540 I mean, you can always make more money, but you can't make more time.

00:18:37.100 So exactly.

00:18:38.140 Good point.

00:18:38.640 It's huge.

00:18:39.320 It's huge.

00:18:40.080 What else do you guys wish people knew about meat in the United States, farming in the United

00:18:47.020 States that most people just don't know?

00:18:49.560 It's a lot harder than people think.

00:18:51.780 Yeah.

00:18:52.280 Like the, the, um, the other side of the industry.

00:18:57.360 Uh, so like your, your, your pitas, the plant-based, um, all of those people, they've done a really

00:19:05.420 good job of, of kind of dehumanizing farming in general and taking the face of the farmer,

00:19:13.500 the face of the rancher, just away and making you think that there's a cow.

00:19:17.660 You don't even know how, where it came from.

00:19:19.840 Um, but cow goes into factory with smoke and out comes a hamburger and like they, they've

00:19:26.140 done a really good job of just, of de-educating, uh, the, the consumer.

00:19:32.860 And, um, we're so far removed from what it actually takes, uh, to produce food for your

00:19:41.560 families, for our families.

00:19:43.080 Uh, there's, there's people that look just like all of us that are working sun up, sun

00:19:51.020 down 365 days a year, um, uh, raising animals, raising produce, like doing the things to put

00:19:59.260 the food on our table.

00:20:00.420 And, and, uh, that's what I wish, you know, we, we want to, um, you know, we had a grand

00:20:05.760 plan going into this year of really telling the story of this as a rancher.

00:20:10.080 Um, and then life kind of hit us pretty hard this year with Corley's health.

00:20:16.340 Um, and, uh, so that got, that project got put on hold.

00:20:20.340 Um, we're, uh, about to pick that up because we want people to really, um, we need to get

00:20:27.180 back to understanding what ranching is, what farming is, where your food's coming from,

00:20:33.220 because it, it doesn't just appear like cows for example.

00:20:39.000 I mean, you know, it's a, it's a two, two and a half year process from birth, uh, to harvest

00:20:46.260 and somebody's taking care of that.

00:20:48.420 It's not, they're not in a factory.

00:20:50.060 The, uh, the, um, at least what we sell.

00:20:54.040 And, um, the, the funny thing is what is in factory, what is actually made in factories

00:21:00.560 and labs is the plant-based meat, the lab grown meat.

00:21:03.240 That's literally legitimately factories trying to produce this food that they, that they

00:21:08.700 then, you know, put with lots, like lots of green and make it, try to make it pretty,

00:21:14.060 but, um, but yeah, the cows are being raised in pastures outside and, and by actual humans.

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00:22:24.240 Well, what do y'all think about the lab grown meat?

00:22:27.100 I mean, in June, 2023, we have in our notes, uh, the U S food and drug administration granted

00:22:33.060 permission for several companies to sell lab grown meat, making America the second country

00:22:38.140 after Singapore to allow it.

00:22:39.720 This is from the economist.

00:22:43.100 I mean, I don't even know, do y'all even know what lab grown meat is?

00:22:46.360 Because I don't really.

00:22:47.840 Yeah.

00:22:48.480 Yeah.

00:22:48.760 They're, I mean, they're just, it's cultured meat.

00:22:51.340 They're taking like the, the cells and they're growing them in a Petri dish.

00:22:56.080 Um, and I think they've,

00:22:57.980 Is this the same as the 3d printed meat?

00:22:59.780 No, it's slightly different, but it's, it's gross.

00:23:04.540 And it's, um,

00:23:06.500 Cause you have to put a bunch of fake stuff in it for it to grow.

00:23:09.500 Yes.

00:23:10.200 Yeah, absolutely.

00:23:11.680 And, um, yeah, they, all of that stuff is really, I mean, it's.

00:23:17.780 Who just announced or they're about to restructure for bankruptcy?

00:23:21.720 Beyond, uh, I don't know, one of the, one of those, one of them, none of them were being

00:23:28.180 very successful because people are smart.

00:23:34.240 And if you're reading the label, like, I just think, I don't even think it's right for them

00:23:39.180 to be able to call that meat.

00:23:40.660 You shouldn't.

00:23:41.360 Yeah.

00:23:41.440 You know, I think that in itself is very misleading.

00:23:43.920 Yeah.

00:23:44.420 Like meat is meat.

00:23:45.660 Yeah.

00:23:45.960 You shouldn't be able to.

00:23:46.580 It's like, if you want to have a black bean burger, it's not my thing, but you can have

00:23:50.960 that, but to have, I don't even understand why you would want imitation meat.

00:23:56.200 Just eat the vegetable.

00:23:57.200 If you're going to eat the vegetable, why try to have something look and taste like meat

00:24:00.500 that's filled with all kinds of gross stuff?

00:24:02.520 Yeah.

00:24:03.200 I agree.

00:24:03.800 Yeah.

00:24:04.140 I don't know.

00:24:04.860 Also MRNA vaccines.

00:24:06.540 That's something that I've kind of been reading in my ads for a little while now that the meat

00:24:11.080 that you guys have are free of these MRNA vaccines.

00:24:13.660 And 2022, the USDA approved the use of sequivity, I don't know, an RNA-based vaccine developed

00:24:25.520 by Merck Animal Health.

00:24:27.060 The vaccine became commercially available on November 1st, 2023, and now with its newfound

00:24:32.900 accessibility, there's a possibility that pork products may now be treated with this vaccine.

00:24:37.440 Is this something that farmers and ranchers are running into?

00:24:40.180 Yeah, absolutely.

00:24:42.020 And I want to be really clear because we do get accused sometimes of fear mongering.

00:24:48.420 And that's the last thing.

00:24:50.520 We want to educate.

00:24:51.460 We want to talk about it.

00:24:52.780 But I will be very vocal on if we don't talk about things, the government will just slide

00:24:59.460 it in and we will never know.

00:25:01.160 And that's what happened with the cool law.

00:25:02.680 That's what happens.

00:25:03.420 That's what's happening now with the grading system of as long as it's 90 days, like nobody

00:25:09.660 knows this stuff.

00:25:10.520 And so we're never trying to fear monger when we're putting out this information.

00:25:18.080 But the MRNA has been being tested for over a decade for animal use in the United States

00:25:26.540 and all over the world.

00:25:28.740 And so when this stuff started getting released, we did put out a pledge to not use the MRNA

00:25:41.060 vaccine.

00:25:41.600 And some of the fear mongering that we got accused of with that is because at the time

00:25:48.440 it wasn't legal for use, but they were talking about doing it.

00:25:54.520 So we came out and said, hey, we're going to draw a line on the sand.

00:25:57.620 We're not going to source.

00:25:59.200 We're going to get involved.

00:26:01.360 We're going to not use the MRNA vaccines in our meat.

00:26:05.340 And so many people were just like, oh, well, it's not even legal for use.

00:26:11.680 And I'm like, yet.

00:26:12.800 But if we don't talk about this, if we don't, and if people don't get loud.

00:26:17.820 Let's not wait until it is.

00:26:19.360 I think we've all realized as society, and I know you've heard the phrase that strong

00:26:26.800 men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times and hard

00:26:32.800 times create strong men.

00:26:34.240 And that's just the cycle.

00:26:36.600 And we're really coming, I think we're, I don't know where we're at in that cycle, but

00:26:42.700 it's, we've stayed.

00:26:44.680 The end of the good times and the weak men for sure.

00:26:47.820 Yeah.

00:26:48.100 We had really good times and we've had a very weak generation, not going to name who it

00:26:56.180 is, but, and we've stayed.

00:27:00.640 And part of that weakness is just staying silent and thinking that other people, and

00:27:05.960 I'll, I'll be the first one to say the church stayed way too silent for way too long on way

00:27:10.740 too many issues where we should have been vocal.

00:27:12.780 But out of the, out of wanting to show love and be Christ-like, we, we sat back trying to,

00:27:22.780 trying to, intentions were good, but we, we stayed way too silent on way too many issues.

00:27:28.700 And so for us, like, we're like, no, we're going to talk about this stuff.

00:27:32.780 We're going to, we've got to make it known.

00:27:35.000 It's not fear-mongering because if we stay silent and just assume that the government's

00:27:39.440 going to have our back and do the right thing.

00:27:42.360 Yeah.

00:27:42.660 Or big tech or big meat, that sounds weird.

00:27:49.980 But yeah, I mean, if COVID taught us anything, it's that, like, get ahead of it.

00:27:55.260 Yeah.

00:27:55.600 You better be loud.

00:27:56.700 Yep.

00:27:57.360 Y'all talked about on the last episode, the last interview, how God really called y'all

00:28:02.560 to do this.

00:28:03.660 I mean, you were in full-time ministry.

00:28:05.640 You have, and I think still had slash still have the event planning company, right?

00:28:10.980 And so this was a totally kind of foreign world for y'all.

00:28:14.700 How have y'all seen God work, especially over the last year or so?

00:28:20.200 Lots of ways.

00:28:22.740 So I'll go back to my health journey.

00:28:28.140 So in 21, I was first pregnant with our, our fourth baby, barely pregnant, like five,

00:28:34.620 five or six weeks.

00:28:36.400 I'll speed up that part of the story.

00:28:38.180 I was diagnosed with skin cancer.

00:28:40.060 They found a mole that they biopsied, came back with melanoma, super scary, especially

00:28:45.780 being pregnant.

00:28:47.620 But I still like had so much peace in that time.

00:28:51.000 I remember that season.

00:28:53.140 But, you know, going MD Anderson and being pregnant with cancer, they're not like super

00:28:58.520 happy that you're pregnant.

00:29:00.580 Yeah.

00:29:00.900 Right.

00:29:01.160 Thankfully, they weren't trying to push me to make any decisions like that, but I could

00:29:08.540 feel it.

00:29:09.760 But we prayed about it.

00:29:10.840 We felt comfortable about doing the surgery in the second trimester.

00:29:14.500 So we did.

00:29:15.480 Baby was safe.

00:29:16.260 Everything was removed.

00:29:17.820 They didn't see anything else.

00:29:19.140 And so went on, you know, to have a healthy baby 40 weeks.

00:29:23.940 But during that time, I mean, they were asking us very hard questions like, are you prepared

00:29:27.240 to deliver your baby at 24 weeks?

00:29:29.860 And are you prepared, dad, to not have mom here?

00:29:35.040 And it's just you and the three other kids, you know, just all of that stuff just thrown

00:29:39.880 on you.

00:29:40.320 It's just so hard.

00:29:41.340 So much.

00:29:42.600 But anyways, praise God, we were fine.

00:29:45.220 But then in January of this year, I felt a swollen lymph node in my groin, which was very

00:29:50.500 concerning.

00:29:50.980 And so I went in, did a biopsy.

00:29:53.700 Sure enough, that had melanoma in it. 0.86

00:29:56.140 And so since January, we've been on this healing journey.

00:30:00.820 I don't even like to say the word cancer because I just I hate it.

00:30:04.760 I never like accepted that or like let it take root in me.

00:30:10.580 But since January, we've been on this mission of healing.

00:30:13.880 And there's been a lot that's happened since January and June 10.

00:30:17.680 That's when I had my big surgery.

00:30:18.820 But I can say now that I'm healed and there's no evidence of disease.

00:30:24.060 Praise God.

00:30:25.780 So now we're walking on the other side of it.

00:30:27.780 But you asked like, what?

00:30:29.680 How have you seen?

00:30:30.300 What did you ask?

00:30:30.760 How have you seen God move or?

00:30:33.120 Yeah.

00:30:33.460 Yeah.

00:30:33.680 I mean, it can be, you know, through the through your business, but also just in your lives

00:30:39.740 since those are inextricably intertwined.

00:30:42.200 Yeah, for sure.

00:30:43.080 I think seeing God through this season, through this year, being able to maintain the business

00:30:49.200 and maintain everything that we work so hard alongside God to put together like that to

00:30:56.440 still remain whenever we're dealing with so much at home like that in itself has just been

00:31:02.960 a miracle.

00:31:03.920 So I think like you said, like they're very much together and seeing him like in both of

00:31:07.700 those spaces with us through all of this has been really huge.

00:31:12.720 Yeah.

00:31:13.080 And the ability to honestly, the ability to have a platform to to to testify of God's

00:31:22.020 goodness, his grace.

00:31:23.100 And, um, I learned this year, I, and I've got, I've been a believer since I was 14.

00:31:30.400 And, um, but I learned for the first time this year, truly what having a peace that passes

00:31:36.060 all understanding really is because, um, the part Corley didn't say was, I mean, she was

00:31:43.140 bedridden for almost two months.

00:31:46.580 I mean, um, the, yeah, between the immunotherapy and the chemotherapy and then it, the tumor

00:31:54.820 got infected, but they didn't know it and they thought it was just a response to the

00:31:59.120 immunotherapy.

00:31:59.600 And it was just, it was, I mean, she couldn't walk.

00:32:03.500 I mean, for, um, uh, it was, it was, it was just devastating to go through that.

00:32:10.160 But, but I, that's, and that's when I realized that this is what peace that passes understanding

00:32:17.400 is to be going through extremely hard times, but because we have God, like, and he's there

00:32:23.040 with us, like the Holy Spirit is such a comforter.

00:32:25.340 And like, we, as hard as that season was, um, and the business was, we had a, it's like

00:32:33.460 the, the parallels between, um, home life and the business was kind of an uncanny.

00:32:40.660 Cause in April, when she's bedridden, um, the business basically cracked, like the software

00:32:46.760 that, um, that everyone's information is completely safe.

00:32:50.300 Um, uh, we, we changed, uh, um, all of our backend and our servers and, um, all of our technology,

00:32:59.120 we were switching all that to a different platform to be safer, to be better.

00:33:03.140 And, and, and, um, but it just completely, it, it, it hurt the business.

00:33:10.660 It didn't go well.

00:33:12.620 Um, again, this is not about any type of security or people's information.

00:33:16.640 Um, but it, uh, it, it really took a hit on, uh, what we were doing in April, um, which

00:33:26.280 was right at the time.

00:33:27.340 It was like the height of everything.

00:33:28.980 It was kind of weird.

00:33:29.680 It's like, it rains, it pours.

00:33:30.740 And so she's like, yeah, like she's in bed, you know, just so sick, um, from the, from

00:33:38.260 what we thought was the therapies, but it was actually an infection.

00:33:42.220 And, um, and then, uh, you know, we got through that and in early May, we went to, uh, we went

00:33:50.880 to do a followup and, I mean, he's like wheeling me into MD Anderson.

00:33:55.340 Yeah.

00:33:55.740 She was in a wheelchair.

00:33:56.460 Um, and we go in to see the doctor and then to see the surgeon and the doctor tells us that

00:34:03.280 that the, that her cancer laughed at the therapies, that she's had no response, the cancer spreading.

00:34:13.180 It's just getting bigger.

00:34:14.580 That's the last thing.

00:34:15.840 We're going to have to do this 13 hour surgery and do a full dissection of like all of this

00:34:24.400 area into your, you know, and, and we're just like devastated.

00:34:29.660 And then we go straight from there to the emergency room.

00:34:32.140 Cause she couldn't walk.

00:34:33.060 And, and, um, and, and then in the emergency room at MD Anderson, they realized that they

00:34:40.160 were like, Hey, I think this, this might be an infection.

00:34:43.580 And so then they started her, um, uh, on, um, on an antibiotic to like get rid of the infection. 1.00

00:34:51.380 And we're so thankful that we have a holistic doctor that we also run everything by.

00:34:58.580 And we talked to him, um, a couple of days later and he said, Hey, before you go to do

00:35:05.040 the surgery, have them scan again.

00:35:07.000 He said, because the, you can't tell the difference in a, whatever kind of scan they

00:35:13.600 are doing, CT scan, infection and cancer looks very similar.

00:35:18.680 So, and so she called her doctor and said they wanted to do another scan.

00:35:22.660 And they were like, why do you need to do another scan?

00:35:25.440 We know everything.

00:35:26.180 We've seen everything.

00:35:26.940 And we're like, well, but can't infection look the same?

00:35:29.920 Yeah, it can.

00:35:30.820 But you know, we've been doing this.

00:35:31.980 We know what we're looking like, um, long story short, after the infection got cleared up,

00:35:36.380 we went back in for another scan and they go, Oh wow.

00:35:41.000 You've had a, you've had a response.

00:35:43.980 And, um, and so the surgery was a lot less, it was still a big surgery.

00:35:50.700 Yeah.

00:35:51.080 Um, and then I'm so glad that y'all pushed back because I've been in situations, not like

00:35:56.600 that, but you're just scared to question the doctors because, and some doctors, I don't

00:36:02.040 know about yours, but they make you feel like you can't.

00:36:04.360 Absolutely.

00:36:05.060 I know what I'm doing.

00:36:06.000 You don't know what you're doing.

00:36:07.320 We don't need to do that.

00:36:08.340 And so it's easy to just say, okay, if you say so, but I've just heard so many stories

00:36:13.760 of people advocating for themselves.

00:36:15.300 And it was that advocacy, the second look, the second opinion that changed the game.

00:36:21.360 Yeah.

00:36:21.660 And so after the surgery, full biopsy, um, every bit of cancer they removed was completely

00:36:27.280 dead.

00:36:27.940 So she had a complete, she actually did have a response.

00:36:30.700 Um, and, uh, yeah, you, if, if we've learned anything this year, it's, we're thankful for

00:36:40.300 doctors.

00:36:40.820 We don't, we don't, I don't think they're out to get us, um, but you have to advocate for

00:36:47.360 yourself and you have to do your research and, and get a second, get a second and a third opinion

00:36:53.740 and, and, and then pray about what decisions you're going to make.

00:36:56.980 And, um, because, you know, they, they're, I do believe that they're trying their best, but

00:37:02.720 at the same time, we're just a number of lots of other and, and yeah.

00:37:10.680 And they're also human.

00:37:11.940 And so I think also you should sift through how much of this is pride.

00:37:16.820 Cause I felt like we had a lot of that from my oncologist.

00:37:19.920 I feel like she, it was very hard for her to, um, to say, okay, I was wrong, you know,

00:37:27.140 this actually did work.

00:37:28.360 And so I did it for her, you know, in a nice loving way.

00:37:31.560 I'm like, Hey, like your first plan worked like it did work.

00:37:33.980 And she's like, well, maybe, um, so yeah, just understanding the humanity of, of them

00:37:40.020 as well.

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00:38:49.840 Sometimes I do feel like doctors have to be kind of coddled like that.

00:38:52.820 Cause that is kind of like coddling.

00:38:54.340 Like you did good.

00:38:55.540 It's fine.

00:38:56.260 It shouldn't really be about that at all.

00:38:58.240 There is a human aspect, but also it seems more so in those kinds of situations, that

00:39:04.660 ego factor.

00:39:06.800 I mean, that is the nightmare scenario.

00:39:10.180 That is the worst nightmare to leave behind your children and to face that possibility.

00:39:15.520 And even just to be on bed rest.

00:39:17.960 Um, and I know that you mentioned just the peace that passes understanding the Holy spirit

00:39:23.620 being a helper, but were there any dark moments, especially during bed rest where you were like

00:39:30.020 just thinking of the worst and how did you get out of that?

00:39:34.800 Yeah.

00:39:35.800 Lots of moments like that.

00:39:37.380 Um, gosh, cause I, I was running fever, like super high fever for so long.

00:39:43.140 And so it was kind of like out of my mind.

00:39:44.900 Yeah.

00:39:45.360 Also, can you even talk about it?

00:39:49.540 Yeah.

00:39:52.020 It's so hard to see someone that you love go through something like that.

00:39:56.740 Yeah.

00:39:58.100 Yeah.

00:39:58.980 Yeah.

00:39:59.380 Um, yeah, not, but again, we're through it.

00:40:06.380 Um, we've, you know, we're on the other side, um, and it is a healing journey and God is good.

00:40:13.400 Um, but you talk about like the, the scary thoughts of like leaving your children behind

00:40:21.720 and like dealing with your own mortality and, um, walking through those scenarios is something

00:40:30.440 I don't wish on anyone, but it actually did bring to light some idols that I had.

00:40:36.360 And one was like, are my children going to be okay without me?

00:40:40.880 And yes, they are like, yeah, you know, so that was like a, like a, it sucked, but it

00:40:48.600 was also like a good realization to have because just, you know, as much as I love them, he loves

00:40:57.340 them so much more.

00:40:59.800 Yeah.

00:41:00.300 And to have your, you know, for Coralie to be a mom and not be able to hold her newborn,

00:41:05.940 to not be able to put her down for, like I said, newborn, she's two and huge, but, you

00:41:11.740 know, but not to be able to put your two-year-old baby to bed for, and the youngest stay newborn.

00:41:17.980 Yeah.

00:41:18.520 That's so true.

00:41:19.480 I also have an 11 month old newborn.

00:41:22.140 Yeah.

00:41:22.580 And, you know, and all four kids are, I mean, they're all young, but the, the youngest

00:41:26.900 ones are just crying.

00:41:28.040 They want mama. 0.96

00:41:28.680 They want mama. 0.96

00:41:29.240 They want mama. 0.96

00:41:29.860 And she just, you know, and I just, I can't be that for her, like for them.

00:41:34.480 And, you know, again, this was by far the hardest season.

00:41:37.940 And you asked like how we made it through.

00:41:39.320 I mean, I was constantly in prayer, like every moment of every day in prayer, even when I

00:41:46.280 didn't believe, I just remember the story from Mark of the father of the son who's demon

00:41:51.940 possessed and, you know, he's asking Jesus for a miracle, heal my son.

00:41:56.120 He's like, I believe, help me with my unbelief.

00:41:59.200 And that was my prayer for so long.

00:42:02.480 Yeah.

00:42:03.660 Yeah.

00:42:05.400 And then, you know, your show is relatable.

00:42:08.080 So I'm sure people, some people can relate to this.

00:42:10.380 And, you know, she did have fever and like, I think for so long, and there were times where

00:42:15.200 I'm trying to comfort her and like, babe, you're going to be fine.

00:42:17.520 You're going to be okay.

00:42:18.120 And she's like, don't belittle what I'm going through.

00:42:21.640 I know.

00:42:22.260 It's funny.

00:42:22.780 It's easy to deal with the marriage stuff and, you know, on your deathbed.

00:42:26.220 Don't you belittle this.

00:42:27.540 Yeah.

00:42:28.140 Like, I'm not belittling it.

00:42:29.320 I'm trying to believe here.

00:42:30.620 Trying to be positive.

00:42:31.100 Trying to be positive.

00:42:32.080 Yeah.

00:42:32.840 But it was, it was, yeah, the hardest thing we've ever had to walk through.

00:42:37.080 And, but I have to tell you, I never, I never fully doubted.

00:42:42.460 I never, I never asked why me.

00:42:45.620 I never asked that.

00:42:46.800 I just said, what's this for?

00:42:48.200 Who's this for?

00:42:49.260 Use me.

00:42:51.120 And I feel like it, my story is to strengthen other people's faith and encourage them and

00:42:58.660 point to Jesus.

00:42:59.660 So that's what we're doing.

00:43:02.240 If you could talk to someone who was going through the same thing, maybe it's the husband,

00:43:07.860 maybe it's the wife, they have kids, they've gotten this diagnosis, whatever it is.

00:43:12.360 What was, what is the one thing that you would want them to know?

00:43:16.040 One thing to know.

00:43:18.320 I mean.

00:43:19.100 Second opinion.

00:43:20.380 Second opinion.

00:43:21.300 Yes.

00:43:21.580 But ultimately we serve a really big God.

00:43:24.040 And for whatever reason, I guess, cause I had never faced something like this.

00:43:28.340 It, I never, um, fully believed that I could experience a miracle.

00:43:34.840 Like it would, I always believed it for other people and I'm like, this can happen.

00:43:38.380 It does happen.

00:43:39.080 I'm reading, I'm seeing it.

00:43:40.060 But for whatever reason, I just kept that away from me, but just knowing that he loves

00:43:49.100 you too.

00:43:49.600 He loves you just the same.

00:43:50.640 He can do it for you.

00:43:51.360 If he can do it for me, he can do it for you.

00:43:54.020 Um, so my, my, the best thing, the biggest thing I want to share and spread is just hope.

00:43:59.860 Well, praise God.

00:44:00.920 I'm so thankful y'all are on the other side of it.

00:44:02.800 I mean, I remember following along on Instagram, but now I have a lot more detail to what I

00:44:08.480 was reading, but I was just praying for you so much because I haven't been in that situation,

00:44:13.720 but I mean, yes, as a human, but especially as a mom, I mean, I can at least imagine just

00:44:21.620 the pain and the fear and all of that, but praise God.

00:44:24.880 And thank you for sharing your testimony too.

00:44:27.200 Yeah.

00:44:27.460 Sorry.

00:44:28.360 That's a little contrast from the meat industry, but.

00:44:32.220 No, we went right into it.

00:44:34.240 It was perfect.

00:44:35.200 So people need to get, um, I did not realize that skin, I thought, uh, skin cancer, that's

00:44:41.100 not a big deal.

00:44:41.900 Like the first, the first time you just kind of have this, people need to get checked.

00:44:46.700 If you're not getting checked, go to a dermatologist, get checked.

00:44:49.920 Cause honestly I was, we were at the dermatologist for me.

00:44:53.080 Cause she saw like, I had a cyst on my side and was, and, and she was like, you should get

00:44:58.980 that checked out.

00:44:59.420 And I'm like, ah, that's no big deal.

00:45:00.760 And then, and this was, you know, several years ago.

00:45:04.040 And then at the dermatologist while we were there, um, she, she decided, she was like,

00:45:09.680 Hey, well, what's, what's this on my leg?

00:45:12.580 And then she's like, I need to take that off and look at it.

00:45:16.860 And the earlier you catch it, the better.

00:45:19.240 And, um, so if you don't go to the dermatologist to get checked out, you should.

00:45:24.900 Yeah.

00:45:25.220 Yeah.

00:45:25.640 I agree.

00:45:26.360 I agree with that.

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00:46:30.320 Okay, as we wrap, I think that y'all said that you have an announcement, a fun announcement.

00:46:40.180 Yes.

00:46:40.480 It's very early.

00:46:41.900 Do you even know what I'm going to tell them?

00:46:43.700 Yeah.

00:46:45.720 It's very early on.

00:46:46.800 You said you told me what it's not, but it's very early on this announcement, but we'll

00:46:50.880 give you a sneak peek.

00:46:52.320 Yeah.

00:46:52.560 So we've been working on launching chicken nuggets.

00:46:55.280 Oh yeah.

00:46:56.200 So we're super excited.

00:46:57.480 I'm so excited.

00:46:58.120 I love chicken nuggets.

00:46:59.140 And this whole meat chicken, so by definition, a nugget is ground up chicken and you really

00:47:07.740 don't want that.

00:47:09.000 Yeah.

00:47:09.200 This is whole meat, amazing, same quality, our same chicken that we use for our chicken

00:47:16.220 breasts.

00:47:16.820 We make nuggets out of them.

00:47:18.160 They're gluten-free.

00:47:19.020 They're awesome.

00:47:19.440 But we are going to be, every other nugget on the market, if you go look in the ingredients,

00:47:28.840 they're either fried in canola oil, sunflower oil, vegetable oil, all seed oils.

00:47:35.780 Cannot find, even organic.

00:47:37.720 Like it all has seed oils.

00:47:39.340 We will have the only nugget on the market, not using seed oils.

00:47:46.040 We're going to use avocado oil, which is a healthy fat, healthy oil, high smoke point.

00:47:51.640 And we're super excited to be able to offer that.

00:47:54.480 That alone is reason to subscribe to Good Ranchers because I've made my own chicken nuggets before

00:47:59.200 and they were delicious, but took forever.

00:48:01.400 And I don't want to do that.

00:48:03.260 But like, I also don't want to be feeding, you know, seed oils every time they want chicken

00:48:07.900 nuggets.

00:48:08.300 So I'm pumped about that.

00:48:09.840 Yeah.

00:48:10.180 Woo-hoo! 1.00

00:48:11.160 It's been a big hurdle because we've been finding somebody to make it.

00:48:16.380 Yeah.

00:48:17.080 We've just had obstacle after obstacle after obstacle of like, nobody does this.

00:48:21.460 Nobody does this.

00:48:22.260 And we're like, yeah, but we, you know, we made a decision long ago.

00:48:26.640 We only want to sell what we would feed to our family and what we would feed to our kids. 0.77

00:48:31.400 So we like, we actually just got the news that we were able to do it yesterday.

00:48:37.080 So I'm so excited.

00:48:39.160 Do you know the timeline?

00:48:42.100 It's, you know, I don't want to, it, it should be within the next six weeks to two months.

00:48:49.480 But because when we're like right there, honestly, the oil is where we got held up.

00:48:53.200 Yeah.

00:48:53.600 And yeah, we had packaging done and everything.

00:48:56.860 And then the oil and, but again, such a hurdle.

00:48:59.800 And we were being pushed to just use vegetable oil or just use canola oil.

00:49:03.340 Everybody does it.

00:49:04.540 There's everybody does it.

00:49:05.620 And we're like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:49:07.100 We're not going to do that.

00:49:08.520 And so we just got the green light yesterday to do it.

00:49:11.900 So super excited.

00:49:13.100 The Stucky household is going to have a chicken nugget party.

00:49:15.120 Yes.

00:49:15.320 We'll make sure our subscribers know first though.

00:49:19.080 That is awesome.

00:49:20.840 Well, thank you all so much.

00:49:22.880 Thanks for sharing the news and your story and your insight and everything meat related.

00:49:28.700 Thank you all so much.

00:49:29.680 I really appreciate it.

00:49:30.800 Thank you, Allie.

00:49:31.300 Yeah.

00:49:31.460 Thanks for having us.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 15, 2024

Ep 1052 ｜ Your 'USA Made' Beef Might Actually Be from China ｜ Guests： Ben & Corley Spell

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