Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1065 ｜ Kamala Lied, Babies Died

00:00:00.000 Surprise, surprise. Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris after last night's debate,

00:00:06.700 which was kind of choppy. But what we're going to focus on today is something that the media

00:00:13.640 refused to highlight, and that is Kamala Harris's evil lies. We are going to fact check her on 1.00

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00:00:41.340 Hey, guys. Welcome to Relatable. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.

00:00:47.300 We are talking about what you probably predicted that we would be talking about today, and that is

00:00:53.040 the debate. We've got a lot of analysis to get to, and then Liz Wheeler will give her take at the end 0.99

00:00:59.580 of this episode. Okay, if you haven't listened to or watched yesterday's episode with my dad,

00:01:05.840 our conversation, you should go back and listen to and or watch that because I would say much,

00:01:12.880 if not all of what we said, ended up being true. And we'll go through it all in detail today, but I'll

00:01:19.380 just kind of give you a summary of everything that I think happened last night. I did watch the entire

00:01:25.400 debate even after I wanted to stop watching it. I gave some pre-show analysis with Blaze TV, and

00:01:34.120 I said, I really wish that Donald Trump were not debating tonight, but I lost that battle. So

00:01:40.640 here he is, and what he's got to do, in my personal amateur opinion, but this seems to be the

00:01:48.040 consensus as well, is to seem dignified and unperturbed, untriggerable, disciplined, also

00:01:57.760 compassionate, and human. And I said that Kamala is going to try to bait him at every turn, per Hillary

00:02:06.520 Clinton's advice, and he cannot take the bait. He cannot allow his ego to be tipped over. He cannot

00:02:14.860 reach down to pick it up. He's got to focus on the policies, while also coming across, of course,

00:02:20.920 as personal and personable. He should use phrases like, as a father and grandfather. He could talk

00:02:28.520 about the assassination attempt when asked, for example, about gun policy. And he should not,

00:02:36.780 under any circumstances, allow her to annoy him. He did debate Kamala Harris, and that was the wrong

00:02:47.440 choice, in my opinion, because it was moderated by ABC. And as we talked about yesterday, a study by

00:02:55.280 the Media Research Center found that recent coverage of Donald Trump by ABC has been 93% negative.

00:03:04.040 And their coverage of Kamala Harris, especially since she announced that she was running for the

00:03:09.820 presidency, has been 100% positive. They won't even use words like liberal to describe Kamala Harris,

00:03:17.700 even though she was, objectively, according to her votes, the furthest left senator when she was in

00:03:24.440 the Senate. She is a radically left politician, career politician from California. Of course,

00:03:30.480 she was furthest left, even having Bernie Sanders as a colleague in the Senate. Yet ABC knows the

00:03:37.720 strategy. ABC knows the play. They understand that Kamala Harris has to appeal to middle America. She

00:03:45.100 cannot lose all of those votes. And so they don't use words like liberal to describe her. The Trump team 0.64

00:03:51.380 knew all of that going in. They accepted this invitation. I don't think that they should have.

00:03:56.800 Now, I understand it's kind of a darned if you do, darned if you don't situation, because the Harris 0.99

00:04:02.980 team would have said, well, he's just chicken. He doesn't want to debate against a girl. He's just

00:04:07.920 a coward. He won't even bring his ideas forth and debate his ideas to the American people because

00:04:13.280 he's so frightened by Kamala Harris. And yeah, those are schoolyard taunts that happens in a race. But

00:04:20.600 what he could have said, what his team could have said was, it's not that I'm scared, it's that I won.

00:04:26.800 I already won this debate. I debated your boss, Joe Biden, and all of your policies echo his policies.

00:04:34.200 They're just a little bit further to the left. And I already dominated that debate. You are part of the

00:04:41.380 Biden-Harris administration. You've been here for the past three and a half years. I already asked your

00:04:46.980 boss to defend the record high inflation and the open border and his radicalism. And he wasn't able to

00:04:55.600 do that. Why would it be any different than you? I don't want to waste America's time with a three-on-one

00:05:01.100 debate, which is what it was. And he knew that's what it would have been before that, when he was

00:05:07.840 deliberating whether to accept this invitation. And I would rather take my case directly to the

00:05:15.100 American people. And I encourage you to do the same, Kamala Harris. You've only taken one interview

00:05:20.340 that was edited down, allegedly by CNN. And so if you're so confident in the issues and your solution

00:05:29.740 to these issues, then why don't you take it directly to the American people? Why don't you

00:05:33.540 engage with the media the way that I do and the way that J.D. Vance does? That could have been his

00:05:40.740 response. And they could have focused on a stellar campaign. Instead, I believe that everyone's time

00:05:47.220 was wasted last night. Donald Trump started out strong. Kamala Harris started out weak. I was

00:05:54.040 actually surprised by that. I said in my pre-debate analysis that Kamala Harris wasn't going to have a 1.00

00:05:59.040 bad night. And even if she did stumble, the media was going to run cover for her, that the moderators

00:06:03.420 were going to do her dirty work, and all of that was true. But I believed that she was going to perform

00:06:08.460 really well. She didn't start out performing well. She had this weird dry mouth thing going on. 0.97

00:06:13.140 Her voice was shaky. And Donald Trump started out really strong. And even just their presence on

00:06:19.340 the stage was such a contrast that I thought, OK, this might actually go better for Trump than what

00:06:24.840 I thought. Let me go ahead and show you the clip of how this evening started out super awkwardly,

00:06:30.760 I think, on Kamala Harris's side. Here is Sot One.

00:06:38.240 Kamala Harris, what's up? Good to be.

00:06:40.320 Thank you. Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you. It's an honor to have you both here

00:06:46.280 tonight. OK, in case you didn't know, in case Trump didn't know, that is Kamala Harris. I just

00:06:51.940 thought that was really weird and awkward to kind of introduce yourself. Obviously, he knew exactly

00:06:57.880 who you were. And then it was just obvious to me from there on out by the shakiness in her voice and

00:07:05.320 her mannerisms that she was very nervous. Now, she did not stay nervous. She picked up steam pretty

00:07:11.980 quickly. And I'll explain why I think that happened, when I think that happened and what

00:07:19.780 that tells us. And we'll also obviously get into what I think this debate means for the race,

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00:08:25.120 All right. So Kamala Harris really started to make her case, really started to pick up steam, 0.99

00:08:34.160 I thought. Not when she was talking about a threat to democracy, not when she was talking about Project

00:08:41.520 2025. By the way, that was the first bait I saw that Donald Trump should not have taken,

00:08:47.400 Project 2025. She understands this is going to trigger him because he has denounced it over and

00:08:54.420 over again, which I think is dumb, by the way, like we talked about yesterday. It's just not

00:08:59.360 something worth denouncing. Anyone who cares about Project 2025 is not seriously considering voting for

00:09:06.940 Donald Trump anyway. All you're doing, I think, is annoying the people that like Heritage Foundation

00:09:12.280 and like the policies in Project 2025 that have been proposed. And so I just don't really think that

00:09:19.380 there's a point to that, but it is actually true that he doesn't have any part of Project 2025. He

00:09:26.040 didn't help author it. He hasn't said, I'm going to implement these policies. I just think that it's

00:09:31.440 bait for him to take and for him to start talking about it and to be on the defense. And when you're

00:09:36.080 on the defense about something, you look extremely weak. And that was the first time I saw him take the

00:09:42.960 bait. And yet I don't think that was Kamala Harris's strongest moment. I think her strongest

00:09:49.620 moment was when she started talking about abortion. Abortion is what animates her. Abortion is, I don't

00:09:58.180 think that this is an exaggeration to say what she loves. It is what she has built her career upon.

00:10:04.020 When you look back to her time as the district attorney of San Francisco, attorney general of

00:10:11.940 California, the furthest left Senator in the Senate, and even as vice president, she has done the

00:10:18.900 bidding of Planned Parenthood. She supports abortion through all nine months of pregnancy through any

00:10:25.080 reason or for any reason paid for by the taxpayer. You can actually see that in the Democratic platform

00:10:32.400 right now that she endorses, which is to overturn the Hyde Amendment. The Hyde Amendment protects your

00:10:38.680 federal tax dollars from funding abortion. She explicitly supports overturning the Hyde Amendment

00:10:45.260 to force you, Christian pro-lifer, to fund the slaughtering of unborn children. That's what 0.97

00:10:52.840 Kamala Harris stands for. She, of course, voted against the Born Alive Survivors Protection Act when

00:10:59.340 she was a senator in 2019. That was authored by Senator Ben Sasse that simply said, okay, if a baby survives

00:11:06.440 abortion, a baby outside of the womb, you have to provide that baby health care. She said it was

00:11:12.960 radical. She voted against it. She voted for those babies to die. And, you know, she's not the only

00:11:20.620 Democrat that has supported that. The governor of Virginia, former governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam,

00:11:27.580 explicitly said that he supports that. And so did Tim Walz. Tim Walz, who is her running mate.

00:11:33.860 That is the policy in Minnesota. So that's what this ticket represents. And before I get into what

00:11:40.040 Kamala Harris said, I will say for his part, Donald Trump was absolutely right to call out this

00:11:45.620 radicalism in the debate. Here's top three.

00:11:49.380 Her vice presidential pick, which I think was a horrible pick, by the way, for our country,

00:11:54.640 because he is really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth

00:12:00.180 month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth. It's execution, no longer abortion, 0.86

00:12:07.280 because the baby is born, is okay. And that's not okay with me. Hence the vote.

00:12:13.700 You know, I saw a lot of people on the left, for example, Glennon Doyle, who I would say is like

00:12:19.520 the queen of vapid political takes, who of course is very far left. And she is like the queen of what I

00:12:28.840 call toxic empathy. And that is using empathy as a tool of manipulation to get women to believe that 1.00

00:12:39.840 the compassionate, righteous, and kind position on any issue is the progressive one. That's why I wrote

00:12:46.640 my book, Toxic Empathy. That's why I pushed for it to come out October 15th, because I want to give

00:12:52.280 you the tools to push back against toxic empathy and the emotional extortion that I think is used

00:13:00.860 on women by the media, by activists, by people like Glennon Doyle, even people who call themselves

00:13:07.060 Christians to manipulate you into believing that the progressive position on abortion, on gender, 1.00

00:13:13.160 on sexuality, on immigration, on social justice, is the righteous one. The truth is it's the harmful 0.97

00:13:19.780 one. It's the untrue one. It is the absolutely destructive one. The progressive perspective on

00:13:26.400 all of the issues I just listed are the disordered, chaotic ones. And I wanted to explain to you exactly

00:13:32.580 why and to give you all of the tools to combat that. So that's why I wrote Toxic Empathy. I'm not

00:13:38.160 just trying to get you to buy my book for the sake of buying my book. It is a toolkit that I want to

00:13:43.740 provide to you, especially Christian women, as many of you as possible. You can pre-order it. It'll be

00:13:49.300 in your hands on October 15th. If you go ahead and pre-order it now, we can put the description in

00:13:54.240 this episode and all of that good stuff. But I want you to have the answers to these really tough

00:13:59.780 conversations. I want you to know the facts about abortion, because a lot of people, as I said,

00:14:05.720 under Glennon Doyle's post about the debate and a lot of left-wing commentary online said,

00:14:11.620 oh, Trump, I can't believe he's talking about executing babies. I can't believe he would say

00:14:15.980 that Kamala Harris stands for that. That's so ridiculous. That's not happening. Well, first of

00:14:20.060 all, any form of abortion at any point in pregnancy is the execution of a baby. That's literally what it

00:14:26.520 is. It is the execution of an innocent, living human being. So it is murder. And all Democrats stand for

00:14:34.740 that. She's just very extreme because she really does not believe on any limitations. And she, of

00:14:40.360 course, as I said, voted against the Born Alive Infant Survivors Protection Act, which is protecting

00:14:46.200 babies who survive abortions from execution. And she voted against that. And he is absolutely right 0.99

00:14:52.560 when he talks about the state of Minnesota. This is not an exaggeration. I know he talks kind of in a

00:14:58.140 way that sounds hyperbolic, but he's exactly right. So let's look at this because the moderator,

00:15:03.600 David Muir, who is going to have like a statue built of him by the like blue and on libs who

00:15:13.820 absolutely loved that he basically saw it as his job not to moderate the debate, but to debate Donald

00:15:19.060 Trump, not to debate Kamala Harris, but to debate Donald Trump. He inserted himself and he tried to

00:15:24.760 fact check what Donald Trump just said there and said, there's no state in this country where it is

00:15:28.680 legal to kill a baby after it's born. But let's look at Tim Walz's state of Minnesota, which of

00:15:35.020 course, Trump just referenced their data. This is according to Daily Signal data from the Minnesota

00:15:42.040 Department of Health shows that at least eight babies who survived abortions in the state were

00:15:45.840 left to die between 2019 and 2021. Minnesota Governor Tim Walz signed the Protect Reproductive

00:15:52.960 Options Act in January 2023, which repealed, listen to this, which repealed the state's

00:16:00.160 Born Alive Infant Protection Act codifying a fundamental right to reproductive freedom and

00:16:07.280 essentially, that's a quote, and essentially prohibited any restrictions on abortion, including

00:16:12.440 gestational age limits. The bill also removed their requirement. Listen to this. For abortion 0.90

00:16:19.380 providers to report cases in which infants survive abortion attempts, a measure that had been in

00:16:25.500 place since 2015, we are talking about babies outside of the womb. Tim Walz and Kamala Harris believe

00:16:33.220 that they should have no right to health care, that they should be left to die. Children who survive

00:16:40.060 abortions are born alive and left to die, can be born alive and left to die in 15 states, including

00:16:49.140 or and in addition to the District of Columbia. In the U.S., there are at least 277 known cases,

00:16:59.180 known cases, all right? Most states don't report this. They don't have to report this.

00:17:05.220 277 known cases in which an infant has been born alive following an abortion. This is according to the

00:17:12.740 Family Research Council. And when I testified on behalf of the pro-life policies that were implemented by

00:17:19.040 the Trump administration as the sole pro-life testifier in Congress before a House Congressional

00:17:30.560 Committee, I was sitting next to four abortion activists, one of them an abortion provider. I

00:17:37.740 talked about some of these stories. I talked about Sequoia Williams, for example, the woman who has told

00:17:44.680 the awful story of her baby surviving an abortion. She saw her baby struggling to breathe. She saw her

00:17:52.060 baby trying to survive. Of course, then she had a change of heart as she was aborting her baby at seven

00:17:58.720 months. And they held her back and they threw her baby in a waste bucket. That's how her baby died.

00:18:06.920 Jill Stanek also testified before Congress several years ago. She was a nurse. One day on her job in

00:18:16.180 the hospital, she opened a utility closet and she found a little 22-week-old baby who had survived an

00:18:23.300 abortion. He had been aborted because he had Down syndrome. He was still breathing and she held him

00:18:28.460 while he died. These are things you can look up by the way. Again, not hyperbole. Even if there were just

00:18:34.940 one story like that, that is enough to break our hearts, that is enough to ensure that at the very

00:18:40.980 least, these protections are in place. And it's not just that Kamala Harris and Tim Walls didn't

00:18:46.180 author those protections, but actively voted against the protections of unborn children who survived

00:18:51.540 abortion. That is child sacrifice on this ticket. So at the end of the day, yeah, Trump didn't do the

00:18:59.120 best job that he could. And we'll still go through that because I think that matters.

00:19:02.700 And Trump should be more pro-life. I wish that he were, especially rhetorically. But at the end of

00:19:10.740 the day, it's a no-brainer for me. I am not going to vote for the ticket and I will actively vote

00:19:16.480 against the ticket that opposes protecting babies who survive abortions. And if you've got any conscience,

00:19:24.140 you will too. And by the way, Trump is not exaggerating when he is talking about Ralph Northam

00:19:32.540 here. Let us just take a trip down memory lane, the Democratic governor of Virginia a few years ago

00:19:39.040 saying, oh yeah, baby, who survives abortion? Duh, let's just let her die. Here's top four. 0.98

00:19:46.100 If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered.

00:19:52.360 The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the

00:19:57.960 mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians

00:20:03.060 and the mother. So. Okay. In context there, he is talking about like late-term abortions.

00:20:10.280 And he's talking about like an induction abortion, which is what happens in the late term where you

00:20:14.960 literally have to induce labor and then you slaughter the child and you hope that it works. 0.76

00:20:20.360 And he's saying, well, if it doesn't work and well, would the child get medical care? Maybe,

00:20:26.620 maybe not. He literally said that on radio. So no, he is not exaggerating. That's exactly what

00:20:33.440 happened. And how dare that fact checker step in and try to help Kamala Harris there. So she 1.00

00:20:39.240 doesn't have to be on the hook for her radical and bloodthirsty stance. All right, let me pause and 0.99

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00:21:59.520 Kamala Harris also, of course, tried to employ Christian language to defend her radical, 0.98

00:22:10.380 bloodthirsty, rabid stance on abortion. Here's top five.

00:22:15.160 One does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree. The government and Donald

00:22:22.740 Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body.

00:22:28.320 Yes, you have to suspend your belief in biblical doctrines to vote for the right to slaughter a 0.52

00:22:38.180 child, particularly through all nine months of pregnancy. That's what Kamala Harris supports. 1.00

00:22:45.740 And of course, her voting record shows that she also supports letting those babies who survive

00:22:53.440 abortions die. She has gone after every pro-life pregnancy center in the state of California. She 1.00

00:23:01.000 has gone after pro-life reporters. The Biden-Harris administration has weaponized the DOJ against

00:23:10.680 peaceful pro-life protesters literally imprisoning a pro-life grandmother for standing in front of the

00:23:18.880 entrance of a murder mill, praying and pleading with women not to abort their unborn child. Yes, 0.98

00:23:27.200 she has had to suspend any faith that she might profess to do that. And yes, you have to suspend

00:23:37.880 your belief in the Imago Dei to support a politician and policies like that. You have to

00:23:45.520 suspend your belief in Psalm 139 that we were knitted together in our mother's womb to support a

00:23:55.140 politician and policies like that. You have to suspend your belief in the commandment against murder

00:24:03.300 to support a politician and a policy like that. Remember, Satan disguises himself as an angel of

00:24:11.400 light. And that's what I was reminded of when I was watching Kamala Harris during this because this is

00:24:16.960 when it really took off for her. Unfortunately, this is when the debate, her performance at least,

00:24:21.900 got a lot better. She gets extremely enthusiastic and excited and joyful and beaming when she is

00:24:29.780 talking about abortion. Like, that is her bread and butter. That is what she is most passionate about.

00:24:35.800 Like, that is the keystone of her life, it seems. Like, that is her North Star is abortion. And that's why

00:24:45.140 you saw her starting to use her hands more. That's why you heard her voice start deepening. That's when you

00:24:53.180 saw her really amping up her charisma and her excitement when she started talking about child

00:25:03.240 sacrifice because that's where she gets so much of her funds for her campaigns, the largest murder 1.00

00:25:09.100 mill in the United States, which is Planned Parenthood. And again, that has been her mission

00:25:15.440 to ensure that babies unmitigated can be slaughtered in the United States and that anyone who stands in the 0.85

00:25:23.100 way of that is punished. And if you think the DOJ under Biden has been frightening when it comes to

00:25:30.860 pro-lifers, just wait for Kamala the cop who works on behalf of Planned Parenthood. 1.00

00:25:40.260 She also goes on to say that nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy determined asking for

00:25:45.320 an abortion. That is not an abortion. That is not happening. That is not an abortion. Of course,

00:25:51.300 it's an abortion. Yes, of course that happens. If you've seen the testimony of Leroy Carhartt,

00:25:58.940 he gave a testimony, a deposition in 1997, and we have quoted it on this podcast several times where

00:26:06.740 he describes what happens in a late-term abortion that he, of course, conducted several times over

00:26:12.040 his career. I believe he actually died a couple years ago and was honored by Planned Parenthood.

00:26:21.100 And unless he repented, we know that he is hearing the screams of the babies that he aborted for

00:26:25.480 all of eternity, or at least I imagine that's what hell is like for him. But he describes what it was

00:26:34.020 like to reach inside the birth canal and to cut the spinal cord of a child, a living child, while that

00:26:42.420 child is being induced and delivered. And he described if a child had successfully been killed,

00:26:53.260 starved out by starving the baby of the amniotic fluid before induction and delivery in a late-term

00:27:00.160 abortion, the baby would come out like, quote, meat in a crock pot. He's talking about a living

00:27:06.460 human being. He's talking about a baby. You know the story of Kermit Gosnell. Late-term abortions

00:27:11.860 happen. The best data that we have, even from the Guttmacher Institute, which is the research arm of

00:27:17.400 Planned Parenthood, tells us that at least 10,000 babies a year are aborted in the third trimester.

00:27:23.560 Yeah, that's happening. Unfortunately, it's probably happening more than we even know.

00:27:31.180 Was she fact-checked at all? Did the moderators push back on her, ask her for clarity? No. The

00:27:37.580 moderators did no such thing. They never pushed back on her. As many lies as she told, she was never given

00:27:45.420 any pushback or asked to clarify any of her stances at all. It was three against one,

00:27:51.840 and they were working on behalf of Kamala Harris, which should be an insult to your intelligence,

00:27:56.960 no matter what side of the aisle that you're on, by the way. Here's the truth. Eight states and

00:28:03.260 Washington, D.C. impose no-term restrictions on abortion. Last year, the Atlantic profiled to

00:28:10.620 Colorado abortion doctor Warren Hearn for his work performing late-term abortions, even to 35 weeks.

00:28:17.260 Patients come to him from all over the country because he is one of only a handful of physicians,

00:28:21.520 who can and will perform an abortion so late. Kate Carson, she was someone who was interviewed in

00:28:31.360 this Atlantic piece. She got an abortion at Hearn's Clinic in 2012. She said, I put my baby down

00:28:37.540 like a dog. She was 35 weeks pregnant with a daughter who doctors diagnosed with multiple brain 0.99

00:28:44.940 anomalies, but the diagnosis was not fatal. So because her child had special needs,

00:28:49.860 she brutally slaughtered her child at a time when that baby could absolutely feel pain. 0.73

00:28:56.560 And this is from the author of that Atlantic article. Hearn estimates that at least half and

00:29:01.320 sometimes more of the women who come to his clinic do not have any kind of fatal diagnoses.

00:29:08.520 So women are walking, not that that's an excuse, that would be an excuse, but women are walking in 1.00

00:29:14.080 the third trimester deciding they don't want to be pregnant. And look, not all of these women are

00:29:21.740 victims of abuse or coercion or manipulation, not even in some kind of dire situation because of the

00:29:28.880 failure of the state or the failure of compassion of other people. Like, remember, women have agency. 0.95

00:29:34.080 We have the ability to choose evil. Not all women who have abortions are victims. And that's,

00:29:39.880 of course, what a lot of people would like you to believe. But we have to realize, like, women are 0.99

00:29:44.360 capable of sin. They're capable of choosing murder. And we have to look that in the face and just

00:29:49.760 realize that. And yes, the law should have something to say about that. Obviously, the law should, of

00:29:55.380 course, protect the right of children not to be murdered at absolutely any stage.

00:30:01.180 Harris also lied, claiming that Trump is against IVF. Again, this was bait. He shouldn't have taken

00:30:09.860 this. But he that, of course, is not true. And he did try to correct that. Again, did the moderators

00:30:18.280 push back on her? No. Did they try to get her to answer about abortion? No. And here's her non-answer on

00:30:28.640 that. So, seven. You should ask, will she allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month, seventh 0.96

00:30:35.120 month? Come on. Okay. Would you do that? Why don't you ask her that question? Why don't you answer the

00:30:40.740 question? That's the problem. Because under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the seventh month, 1.00

00:30:46.280 the eighth month, the ninth month, and probably after birth. First of all, I thought the mics were 1.00

00:30:52.180 supposed to be muted. I think it's weird that they allowed her mic not to be muted in seemingly,

00:30:56.840 like, strategic moments. He's right there. He says that she says that she supports the protections

00:31:02.240 that were in Roe v. Wade. But, I mean, it is still and was legal for states to allow abortion for

00:31:11.640 virtually any reason through all nine months. Now, after the point of viability, which is typically

00:31:16.840 agreed to be 24 weeks, though babies born earlier than that have survived, there were certain stipulations,

00:31:24.700 according to Doe v. Bolton. Like, oh, it has to be for certain health reasons. But health

00:31:30.220 reasons also included emotional and mental health. And so, yes, babies were being aborted through all

00:31:37.140 nine months. So, when she says that she stands for the protections in Roe v. Wade, I'm interested

00:31:42.040 what she means by protections, by the way. Again, that's such, like, an ironic, paradoxical

00:31:46.600 euphemism. Who is being protected? Certainly not the babies inside the womb. Yes, she does believe

00:31:52.040 in abortion through all nine months. Remember, her vote on the Born Alive Infant Survivors Protection

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00:33:40.040 Okay, so immigration. Immigration is obviously Trump's, I would say, strongest position. We've got

00:33:50.580 someone in Kamala Harris, who not only has been the border czar for the past three and a half years,

00:33:56.600 has not visited the border, has actively, through Mayorkas, has actively opened the border and stopped

00:34:06.340 states like Texas and Arizona from protecting their borders. The federal government actively

00:34:11.920 went to the Texas border, removed barbed wire, removed buoys. You'll also remember that the Biden

00:34:20.020 administration, that they targeted the border patrol who were trying to stop the Haitian migrants from

00:34:27.880 entering the country illegally, literally just like grabbing his shirt. That became this whole story

00:34:33.900 about how this mirrors slave patrol and this is racist. And those border patrol agents were actually

00:34:40.380 put on at least a temporary leave while an investigation was conducted because of that.

00:34:47.440 Like, they actually care more about these illegal aliens entering our country than they care about 1.00

00:34:53.760 the safety and the security of their own citizens. And she has made that perfectly clear.

00:34:58.860 We played the montage last week of her saying, being an undocumented immigrant is not a crime.

00:35:05.360 What she means by that is that crossing the border illegally should not be illegal.

00:35:09.640 You can come over for any reason under a Kamala Harris presidency. That's what she believes 0.77

00:35:15.200 ideologically. That's what she believed when she was Attorney General of California.

00:35:19.880 That's what she believed when she was District Attorney of San Francisco.

00:35:23.000 While she was Attorney General, she pushed for the sanctuary city policies that have ransacked 0.98

00:35:30.740 places like San Francisco. And who was murdered under her watch because of the policies that she 1.00

00:35:37.140 advocated for? Kate Steinle. As we talked about yesterday, that 32-year-old woman who was murdered 0.94

00:35:43.880 by an illegal alien who had been detained several times and then released because of sanctuary city policies,

00:35:49.720 she died in her father's arms at 32 years old, crying out, help me, daddy. She was murdered by an 0.94

00:35:57.820 illegal alien under Kamala Harris's watch, Laken Riley. She is dead today. A 22-year-old woman going on

00:36:05.500 a jog on a Sunday morning in Athens, Georgia, brutally beaten and murdered by an illegal alien from 0.63

00:36:11.680 Venezuela because of Kamala border czar Harris's support of open borders. That's who she is. 1.00

00:36:18.700 That's what she has advocated for. It's only going to get worse when she continues, if she continues in 0.84

00:36:25.880 the White House. So this could be a really strong moment for Donald Trump. I don't think he did nearly

00:36:31.560 as well as he should have, as he could have. I didn't hear Kate Steinle's name brought up. Like, I didn't hear

00:36:37.440 Laken Riley's name brought up. Instead, Donald Trump talked about Springfield, Ohio, and the Haitian

00:36:46.520 illegal aliens there. And look, like, I think, or actually, they're not even illegal. They're there

00:36:51.620 because of policies passed by the Biden administration, the temporary protection that

00:36:57.100 100,000 Haitians were given when they came over here and they were literally shipped to this tiny

00:37:04.780 town of Springfield, Ohio. And they have, it's true, they have unfortunately very negatively transformed

00:37:11.820 this city. And there have been reports from members of this town that the Haitian migrants have been

00:37:18.480 taking the geese from the lakes and have apparently, allegedly, been taking people's pets and cats that

00:37:26.320 have been roaming around neighborhoods, that they have caused many traffic accidents, and that generally

00:37:34.160 a lot of these migrants, immigrants, have been committing crimes and forcing children into these 1.00

00:37:45.000 moments of intimidation. And there's been a lot of troubling stuff from these town hall meetings that

00:37:52.140 these citizens are reporting. And of course, we're not allowed to talk about any of that because

00:37:56.820 apparently it's racist. You're not allowed to care about your children's safety, and you're supposed to

00:38:01.400 just be able to import the third world and not become the third world. But if you do become the 0.94

00:38:06.680 third world, it's supposed to be okay. So Donald Trump decided to go that route, which even if it's

00:38:11.380 true, all of that stuff, which it is in large part, I don't know if all of the things being claimed on

00:38:19.080 X are true, but even if that's true, it's not the way to go. It's not the way to go. That's a very

00:38:25.980 like online thing that's going on. And even if it is true, it sounds like a conspiracy theory.

00:38:33.220 It sounds hyperbolic. And that is not the time to bring something like that up that the media is

00:38:40.300 going to say isn't true. It's not the time for that kind of debate. This is the time to bring up

00:38:45.160 Lake and Riley. Like this is the time to bring up Molly Tibbetts. This is the time to bring up Kate 0.85

00:38:50.820 Steinle. It's the time to bring up the drunk driving incidents with illegal aliens. It's time 1.00

00:38:57.540 to bring up fentanyl. That's what it's time for. Stuff that is verifiable, that everyone knows is

00:39:03.960 awful. Things that happened on Kamala Harris's watch because of the policies that she represented 0.99

00:39:09.360 and championed. That's what that is time for. Because that's what speaks to the suburban mom. 1.00

00:39:16.280 There was only one candidate up there who was talking to female voters, and that was Kamala 1.00

00:39:22.280 Harris. And Donald Trump, I think, really missed the opportunity here. David Muir, he tried to fact

00:39:29.280 check him on the Springfield stuff. And that was just, I think, an unforced error. He shouldn't have

00:39:38.820 brought that up. There are so many things to bring up about immigration that would have been really good

00:39:44.660 for Donald Trump to focus on, and he just didn't. And then he talks about crime. He cited crime data

00:39:55.460 saying that, you know, crime is up, and this is in large part due to the lawlessness that has been

00:40:01.400 promoted by people like Kamala Harris. And again, I mean, that's true. She supported the Minnesota

00:40:08.960 Freedom Fund back in the riots of 2020, which bailed violent rioters out of jail during those George

00:40:17.720 Floyd riots. And one of the men that was bailed out of jail because of the funds that Kamala Harris

00:40:22.780 promoted ended up murdering a woman just days later. Like, there are so many things to hit Kamala Harris on.

00:40:31.760 But here is the moderator trying to fact check Trump when he's talking about lawlessness. Here's

00:40:37.840 on eight. Crime in this country is through the roof, and we have a new form of crime. It's called

00:40:43.500 migrant crime, and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible. President Trump, as you 0.76

00:40:48.040 know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country. But Vice President Harris-

00:40:52.840 Excuse me, the FBI defraud, they were defrauding statements. They didn't include the worst cities.

00:40:57.460 They didn't include the cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud, just like their number of 818,000

00:41:04.820 jobs that they said they created turned out to be a fraud. You know, it's just it's hard. Like that

00:41:10.320 position that Trump was in just there was hard. Because like to the average American, it just sounds

00:41:15.600 like he's being defensive and angry and almost conspiratorial, even though he is right. He is

00:41:19.780 correct on that. And that's why it's just not in that instance, like that just wasn't fair that the

00:41:26.020 moderator was inserting himself and debating Donald Trump and never did that to Kamala Harris. And again,

00:41:31.300 just to like fact check this, and I'm very thankful for Brie and then our researcher who did just an

00:41:37.120 incredible job fact checking all of this for us. Like Trump is right. The FBI's uniform crime reports

00:41:43.060 did not collect crime reports from a third of police departments in 2021 and 2022 due to a new tracking

00:41:51.140 system not being fully implemented. And that just happened to exclude the cities with the worst

00:41:58.680 violent crime. The cities that are run by Democrats. Back to immigration. Harris claims that she supported

00:42:06.600 the Senate border security bill. And she said, well, this would have helped secure the border. But of

00:42:12.360 course, Republicans stood against that, including Donald Trump. But a fact check on that, that bill would

00:42:18.800 have put 1500 more border agents on the border to help. That is somewhat, somewhat true. But the truth

00:42:27.600 about it is actually that it permitted over 1.8 million illegal aliens per year, that the border

00:42:36.360 security that was guaranteed through this bill would have only kicked in after 5000 illegal border crossings

00:42:44.900 per day was reached. And it instituted, it sanctioned catch and release. And so a border patrol agent

00:42:52.400 catches someone could be a potential terrorist from Somalia. But it said you have to release them into

00:42:58.600 the interior of the United States. It doesn't stop parole abuse, sends hundreds of millions to NGOs to

00:43:04.240 facilitate illegal migration, requires that any alien who claims asylum be released into the country and

00:43:10.820 granted work authorization almost immediately. So of course, that's why Republicans didn't support it

00:43:15.720 because it wasn't a border security bill at all. Kamala Harris continued to lie. She repeated the very fine

00:43:23.020 people on both sides lie. She said, let's remember Charlottesville. And then she described that. And she said,

00:43:31.720 yeah, Donald Trump said that there are very fine people on both sides. Did did ABC push back on this? Did they

00:43:41.720 clarify? No. But Snopes did a few months ago? It took a while. But even Snopes says, no, Trump did not call

00:43:50.160 neo-Nazis and white supremacists very fine people. Here's the context of what Trump actually said a few

00:43:58.080 years ago, SOT10. And you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were

00:44:05.780 very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same

00:44:13.380 pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of to

00:44:19.840 them a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. And you

00:44:26.420 had people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be

00:44:31.580 condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,

00:44:38.320 okay? I mean, there, he said it. But she understands. Like, she understands most people

00:44:45.040 will just repeat the myth that the media has been pushing for several years. And she knows the truth.

00:44:52.100 That's a malicious, I mean, that's a malicious distortion. She's insulting your intelligence. 1.00

00:44:57.160 And unfortunately, she knows that a lot of people will go along with that. They'll just believe what

00:45:03.260 they feel to be true. Harris also lied and said that police died on January 6th. That is not true.

00:45:11.720 One officer died the day following after suffering a stroke. And that is really sad. But he did not die

00:45:18.720 there. There was only one person that was actually killed by violence. And that was Ashley Babbitt. And she

00:45:24.500 was one of the protesters, writers that was there. And she was unarmed. And she was shot in the chest by

00:45:32.760 a police officer. And so that's the only person who was killed. She really tried hard to make it seem

00:45:41.520 like she was this middle of the road, not Republican or Democrat kind of candidate who really just wanted

00:45:48.360 what's best for America. And unfortunately, like, I think that that could work on some people.

00:45:54.080 I think that here's what I think. If I were to grade them, I think Kamala Harris maybe won a few

00:45:59.460 voters. I do. That's unfortunately the truth. And I think that Donald Trump probably did not lose any

00:46:06.500 voters that were going to vote for him. But I don't think he gained any either. I really don't think he

00:46:13.340 came to anything by doing this debate, unfortunately. And that's kind of what I anticipated.

00:46:20.560 And I was really hoping to be wrong on that. I really was. I was ready to eat my words, to eat

00:46:26.660 crow and say, oh, I'm so glad Donald Trump did that. Kamala Harris's team is actually already asking for a

00:46:32.580 second debate, which is interesting. That means I mean, I think that means that they thought that she did

00:46:37.420 well. Donald Trump is not. Please. Well, I was going to say is not going to debate her again.

00:46:44.040 But I don't know. I don't know if he will or not. But gosh, for the love of all things good, don't do

00:46:50.480 it. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. There's no reason to. Nothing good will come out of it.

00:46:56.320 What are you going to accept an invitation? The what the hosts of Morning Joe are going to be the

00:47:01.800 moderators? How do you think that's going to go? Their commentary after this was Kamala Harris was superb.

00:47:07.880 Superb. She was elegant. She was classy. But she was also joyful. And she also went right in there

00:47:16.580 and baited him over and over and over again. And he fell for it every time. Now that last part is true.

00:47:22.220 She was joyful. Like you guys are completely shameless propagandists, just completely shameless.

00:47:29.980 She was joyful. She was most joyful when she was talking about slaughtering unborn children. 1.00

00:47:33.680 Yep. Molly Hemingway. I think she has some of the most insightful commentary always. She says that

00:47:41.120 ABC News' Lindsay Davis just brazenly lied about Florida's extreme abortion initiative on the 1.00

00:47:46.020 November ballot, which would legalize abortion through all nine months of pregnancy with taxpayer

00:47:49.740 funding and no conscience rights. And she's right about that. The moderator just straight up lied when

00:47:54.240 she tried to fact check Trump on that. Megyn Kelly went after the moderators a lot. She said, 0.98

00:47:59.980 these moderators are a disgraceful failure. This is one of the most biased, unfair debates I've ever,

00:48:04.880 ever seen. Ben Shapiro, the moderators are the story of the evening, and it isn't a good story.

00:48:13.380 And a lot of people are saying kind of something like this. This is what it sounded like the

00:48:18.000 moderators were doing. Cabot Phillips says, moderator to Trump, when did you first know you were racist?

00:48:23.620 Moderator to Harris. Have you always been this brilliant? Or did your staggering intellect just

00:48:28.180 come naturally? That is basically what was happening. I used my amateur sports analysis or

00:48:34.340 analogy rather, and I said they're basically teeing up Kamala Harris from the fairway and forcing Trump

00:48:40.920 to shoot from the bunker every time. And it was tough to watch. He could have done better, yes,

00:48:48.440 but at the end of the day, it comes down to policy and her policies are chaotic and disordered and his

00:48:54.240 aren't. And that is your job because the media is going to be playing her highlights for the next 1.00

00:48:59.260 eight weeks and playing his lowlights. Your job as a rationally thinking person, as a Christian,

00:49:04.920 is to remind yourself and your friends of the policies that are at stake. Can't let your friends

00:49:10.660 get apathetic and fatigued. You can't let them get demoralized. You have to be active in getting

00:49:15.260 people to vote. I think vote early, to register to vote, and to vote for Donald Trump. And you're

00:49:22.080 not voting for a pastor. You're not voting for a savior. Both of them have serious, serious moral

00:49:27.500 issues at the end of the day. Who can be pushed towards life? Who is going to secure the border?

00:49:33.880 Who is going to create more order and peace and prosperity, not just nationally, but internationally?

00:49:39.540 I think looking at his record objectively, it's Donald Trump, but it's not even close.

00:49:45.980 So just keep that in mind, even as someone like Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris.

00:49:50.740 She did last night. I will get into all of this a lot more tomorrow, and I'll bring producer Brie

00:49:57.000 in, and we'll go back and forth on all that's behind this. But I would be remiss if I didn't

00:50:01.600 mention this at least a little bit before I get into my conversation with Liz and close out this

00:50:07.480 episode. She posted last night, right after the debate, like many of you, I watched the debate tonight.

00:50:13.860 Doubt. Doubt. Doubt. I don't think she watched the debate. Come on. She had all of these remarks

00:50:20.440 prepared. Again, what an insult to your intelligence. And she says the reason why she's posting about

00:50:28.020 this is because she saw an AI-generated image of herself supporting Donald Trump. But I don't think

00:50:35.880 that's the real reason why she's endorsing Kamala Harris. I think she was always going to endorse 0.73

00:50:40.300 Kamala Harris. There's also been a lot of criticism of her friendship with Brittany Mahomes,

00:50:45.920 who is apparently a Trump supporter. And so I think that she's running cover for herself. This

00:50:52.160 is, of course, a PR choice. But here's what she says that she has decided after all of her careful

00:51:00.460 research. She says that Kamala Harris is a steady-handed, gifted leader, and that we can accomplish so much

00:51:06.760 more in this country if we were led by calm and not chaos. Which, of course, again, the exact opposite

00:51:12.240 is true when you look at their policies. She says that she was impressed by her selection of running

00:51:17.160 mate Tim Walls, who has been standing up for LGBTQ plus rights, IVF, and a woman's right to her own body

00:51:24.620 for decades. So the slaughter of unborn children. That is one of the three reasons why Taylor Swift,

00:51:32.400 this role model, apparently, for so many young women, is not only voting for but publicly endorsing 0.62

00:51:39.080 Kamala Harris, who absolutely enthusiastically supports the slaughter of children, both in and outside

00:51:45.300 of the womb. And, of course, she has a picture of herself holding her cat. She's supposed to say,

00:51:49.920 you know, she's a childless cat lady, as they have been, you know, making fun of J.D. Vance for saying 0.61

00:51:56.500 many years ago. You know, Taylor Swift has this line in one of her songs where she says,

00:52:03.040 I have this thing where I get older but just never wiser. Yeah. We've noticed. You lack discernment

00:52:11.520 when it comes to your relationships, when it comes to your moral compass, and certainly when it comes to

00:52:19.440 politics. Can you enjoy her music and knowing that she is completely lost? Sure, you can enjoy her

00:52:29.620 music. But do I think you should allow your teenage daughter to look up to her as some kind of role

00:52:37.960 model, knowing that she prioritizes the right to slaughter unborn children and that she is publicly 0.63

00:52:44.600 enthusiastically endorsing that position? No, I don't. We'll have more on that tomorrow. But I

00:52:53.720 want to get to this conversation with Liz Wheeler. She's got some excellent commentary insight for us

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00:54:06.160 Liz, thanks so much for joining us. I really just want to get your general reaction. We were

00:54:11.940 together last night. What were you thinking as you were watching this debate unfold?

00:54:16.160 Yeah, well, I was excited. I mean, I kind of nerd out on these kind of on these events. So we were

00:54:20.840 talking about that last night. I do enjoy watching the debates. Last night's debate, I found to be a

00:54:24.940 little bit painful. I was looking at it in three ways. Kamala's performance, Trump's performance,

00:54:30.260 and then the moderator's performance. And I was a little disappointed in how Trump performed. I

00:54:36.060 think he could have. He has the advantage of being correct on the issues, on the policies. Not just

00:54:41.920 correct, in my opinion, but correct. The majority of the American people agree with him on border

00:54:46.040 security. The majority of the American people agree with him that inflation is too high and gas and

00:54:49.980 groceries cost too much. They don't want their children to go to war. All of these, they don't want

00:54:54.420 cities to be burned down by Black Lives Matter. He had that advantage. It was his to lose. But 1.00

00:54:58.980 really what I was most struck by was Kamala Harris's demeanor. I know the mainstream media is saying,

00:55:05.700 oh, she won. Even some conservatives are saying she didn't serve up any of her word salads. So she 1.00

00:55:10.820 exceeded expectations. But I thought her debate performance was actually startling because she

00:55:17.800 looked us in the eye. She broke that fourth wall of the camera. And she, without flinching, told lie

00:55:26.880 after malicious lie. And when I say malicious lie, I mean malicious lie. When you talk about Charlottesville

00:55:33.960 and you accuse President Trump of calling neo-Nazis very fine people, that is a malicious lie

00:55:41.640 that has been debunked. But it's a malicious lie to accuse someone of engaging in racism like that.

00:55:46.960 And she had ice water in her veins. She laughed at the collective pain of the American people when

00:55:53.460 it comes to inflation. She was condescending to Donald Trump. And all I could think of as she was 0.50

00:55:58.720 telling these lies was, this is what she thinks of us. This is not personal animosity towards Donald

00:56:03.660 Trump. They never even met each other until that moment right before the debate started when she said,

00:56:08.180 hi, I'm Kamala Harris. And we were all like, oh, whoa, they haven't met. But that's how she feels

00:56:12.640 about us. She dismisses our pain. She mocks the things that we care about, whether it's our religious

00:56:17.600 values, whether it's our family values. And she is willing, without blinking, to lie to us about

00:56:24.100 really important topics in order to get power. That's a scary proposition if that woman were to be 1.00

00:56:30.560 president. She is presenting herself and the media is presenting her as something that she has never been

00:56:36.060 that's down to earth, middle of the road, relatable, independent, pro-working class woman that really 1.00

00:56:44.640 just wants to bring America together. It's the same thing that they pulled with Joe Biden.

00:56:49.780 Joe Biden, it was a little bit more believable because he's a white guy. And so he kind of looks

00:56:57.120 like someone that maybe would understand the blue collar plight, even though we know that's not true.

00:57:01.960 So they've had to work a little bit harder at making a career politician from California seem

00:57:09.880 nonpartisan and down to earth. But they've done a pretty effective job. I don't want to say a good

00:57:16.720 job, but a pretty effective job at that. Something that struck me last night was when she kept saying

00:57:22.100 things like, you know, I was a prosecutor and I defend children. Of course, that doesn't include

00:57:27.540 children in the womb. But she said, I've defended children. And when I am talking to victims, I never

00:57:33.760 ask them if you're a Republican or Democrat, I asked them, are you okay? I mean, that line is directly

00:57:41.620 for the suburban mom. That's exactly who she was appealing to. She wanted to seem normal, conciliatory,

00:57:48.740 compassionate, but also like a fighter that's going to defend the most vulnerable. I think she actually

00:57:55.240 used that term the most vulnerable, very well rehearsed, but probably extremely effective for

00:58:02.060 a certain demographic. To me, Trump, as you said, he's correct. Even on the things that he

00:58:07.120 got fact checked on, like most of them were just true. They're just correct. He might've said it

00:58:11.920 not in the best way. But man, there was only one person on the stage last night that was trying to

00:58:19.120 appeal to female voters, I think. And that was Kamala Harris. And that that was disappointing to

00:58:26.400 me. It was that it was it was frustrating to watch, because you want someone who's on the right side of

00:58:32.840 an issue to also present themselves well, and to be appealing and to reach out to potential voters in

00:58:39.900 the in the best way possible in a persuasive way. And that's not what that's not what Trump did. I

00:58:44.420 found it disappointing because I know he can do it. I know he can stay on message. And I know he

00:58:48.460 can be more pleasant. I mean, we know he's rough around the edges. We know he's kind of what you

00:58:53.300 see is what you get. You can criticize his personality. But I I personally thought that

00:58:58.040 he should have gotten up there and looked into the camera and said, my fellow Americans, how much

00:59:02.040 were you pay? How much did you pay this week for groceries? How much did it cost you to fill up your

00:59:05.920 tank of gas this week? And then he should have paused. And then he said, and how much did it cost

00:59:10.080 you for groceries and gas when I was president? Because that's actually the decision that we have

00:59:15.160 to make. Another another thing that I would note is Kamala Harris was very obviously trying to appeal 0.99

00:59:21.160 to suburban women. She even invoked language of faith when it came to abortion, which is so revolting 0.69

00:59:28.220 to me. It actually reminded me of, you know, who else uses the language of faith when it comes to

00:59:33.160 trying to advocate for child sacrifice? And that would be, of course, Satan. Right. But she didn't

00:59:38.580 answer when she was barely pressed by the by the moderators. She wouldn't she wouldn't deny that

00:59:44.680 she supported abortion up through, you know, the eighth and the ninth month of pregnancy.

00:59:48.880 She pretended that there was no such thing as states. And I believe there's eight states in our

00:59:54.740 country that have no restrictions on abortion whatsoever. But she pretended that there was no

00:59:58.680 such thing as laws that deny medical care for babies born alive after botched abortions.

01:00:03.900 I mean, we have become so desensitized in our culture because we're used to looking at Trump's

01:00:09.960 tweets and saying, oh, that might be unkind or why doesn't he stay on message? But truly, every

01:00:14.220 Christian should be aware of just that one fact that she refused to say that that was wrong. She

01:00:20.400 refused to say that she opposed that. She refused to while she was claiming to stand up for the most

01:00:26.380 vulnerable. She refused to protect these big, healthy babies that are quite literally and I'm sorry to be

01:00:31.440 graphic being ripped apart limb from limb in the womb. And it just reminded me that for all of Trump's

01:00:36.720 flaws, for all of his past instability, I feel as a Christian that it is my moral duty to vote for Donald

01:00:44.600 Trump because, no, he's not as pro-life as I am. That's true. I am a pro-life absolutist and I wish he

01:00:50.940 would be too. And I've told him so. But there is no question that he will protect life in the womb

01:00:58.940 so much more than Kamala Harris will that babies will be saved if he's president that would die if 0.78

01:01:05.540 she were. You know, something that I noticed when she was talking last night, first, she started out

01:01:10.520 nervous, as I've as I've already noted. And I wasn't really expecting that. She kind of her voice

01:01:16.060 was shaky. She had this weird dry mouth thing going on. And I thought, whoa, my prediction that Kamala

01:01:22.040 Harris won't have a bad debate because that's what I said in the pre-debate analysis might be wrong.

01:01:26.960 She's a lot more jittery than I thought. And she had that awkward handshake at the beginning. I was

01:01:32.220 like, OK, Donald Trump might take this away. But when she really started picking up steam,

01:01:38.740 when she gained her confidence was when she started talking about abortion. That is what 0.79

01:01:42.500 animates her the most. That's what inspires her the most. That is what makes her the most

01:01:47.240 excited and enthusiastic. Just like if a Christian starts talking about their faith, 1.00

01:01:53.300 they start talking about Jesus. Maybe they're a shy person. But when you get them going on theology,

01:01:58.140 they get really excited and articulate about it. We start communicating well when we're talking about

01:02:04.540 things that we're really passionate about. And certainly for the Christian, when we start talking

01:02:10.100 about things that we worship, I don't think it's hyperbole to say that she worships abortion.

01:02:15.560 She worships child sacrifice. It is the spirit that animates her, the spirit of murdering unborn 0.96

01:02:22.120 children. That's when she really came into her own in a very dark way. That's when she started to

01:02:27.960 shine. And from there, unfortunately, as you mentioned, she started baiting Donald Trump,

01:02:33.000 but it just kind of started getting better and better for her. But that's what I noticed. I mean,

01:02:37.480 talk about a demonic force, the smile and joy on her face when she was talking euphemistically 1.00

01:02:45.120 about killing unborn children. I was like, that's it for her. That is her passion and her goal in life 0.98

01:02:52.900 to ensure that our tax dollars fund the mass slaughter of human beings. And that's really

01:02:59.760 been her goal since the beginning of her political career. It's it's her entire. Well,

01:03:04.820 that's one of the interesting things about Donald Trump and Kamala Harris is nothing is hypothetical

01:03:08.280 with them. Yeah, they both have Trump was in the Oval Office. We know there's no all these

01:03:13.340 accusations that the left makes. Oh, he wants to be an authoritarian. He wants to be a dictator. He

01:03:17.280 wants to do away with the Constitution. Well, that doesn't make any sense because he was in the White 0.59

01:03:20.500 House and he did no such thing. We know exactly what he's going to be because he already has been

01:03:25.680 the president. And it's actually similar to Kamala Harris. She's been in politics her entire career. 0.98

01:03:30.440 We know exactly what she's going to do. She's been the vice president for three and a half years,

01:03:34.840 and she presided over this open borders crisis that has made our communities less safe,

01:03:39.680 that has cost young women like Lake and Riley her life. Awful, awful stuff. And, you know,

01:03:45.300 she just dismisses it. She won't even visit the border. That's as vice president when she was 1.00

01:03:48.960 senator. She was the most liberal senator in the United States Senate. Something, by the way, 1.00

01:03:54.200 that she's trying to distance herself from, not philosophically or policy wise, but just she

01:03:59.420 doesn't want that talking point following her. So they had that wiped from the web. Even Bernie Sanders

01:04:03.960 said, oh, she's still that radical. She's just trying to be pragmatic about politics, 0.99

01:04:07.660 which means that's deception. And that's what everyone at the DNC and the Democrat Party is

01:04:13.800 doing. There was that clip going around from the DNC where I don't remember what group it was,

01:04:18.020 but one of the speakers says, we just have to act normal for the next, I think he said,

01:04:22.800 like 67 days or whatever it was at that point. And that it's so obvious that that's what they're doing,

01:04:28.800 which is telling because they know that that's not where the country is. One thing that I noticed

01:04:34.540 that definitely was not at the DNC that Kamala Harris hasn't been bringing up that wasn't brought

01:04:40.600 up last night was the issue of gender ideology and transing the kids and taking kids away from

01:04:48.300 their parents who don't go along with chemically castrating their 12 year old son. I mean, that's

01:04:54.360 something that Kamala Harris unapologetically stands for. Of course, her state of California 0.99

01:04:59.220 leads in that. And I think it was strategic by the ABC moderators not to bring it up.

01:05:05.480 If I were Trump, I would have brought it up myself, though, especially because I think it was just

01:05:09.440 within the 24 hours prior to the debate. There was that story confirming that Kamala Harris had 1.00

01:05:14.180 supported transgender surgeries on the taxpayer dime for military. He did bring that up that he did

01:05:20.240 bring. Wait, did he bring that? Well, not military, not military members. He did bring up. And I think

01:05:26.340 you retweeted it when I posted it that she supports. Yes, yes, yes. Gender taxpayer funded. This sounds 0.87

01:05:33.400 like fantastical. Sounds like Mad Libs. Gender taxpayer funded gender transition for detained illegal 0.92

01:05:41.100 immigrants. She literally said that to the ACLU in 2019. CNN reported it. It's not a conspiracy.

01:05:47.260 So crazy that that that that the moderators just like blasted past that. This is this is one thing

01:05:52.260 that I didn't like that conservatives did in the lead up to the debate. They've actually done this

01:05:56.040 ever since Kamala Harris was anointed as Democrat nominee is there's this there's this narrative from

01:06:02.240 the right that says Kamala Harris is dumb. If you look at her word salads or her, you know, her batty 1.00

01:06:07.340 laughter, they're like, oh, she's so dumb. And I actually don't agree with that. I don't think that

01:06:11.040 she's dumb. I and I'm not saying that because I necessarily care about the insult or think it's

01:06:16.360 politically this or that. I actually don't think that she is dumb. I think she's diabolical. And I 0.98

01:06:21.060 think that Trump may have underestimated her a little bit last night because she sometimes comes

01:06:24.980 off in a certain way when she does engage in those verbal gaffes. But she was the epitome of prepared

01:06:32.460 last night. She was. That's why I found her performance so chilling is because it wasn't

01:06:36.880 she wasn't misspeaking when she said these things. She wasn't lacking context for her position. She

01:06:43.380 knew exactly what she was doing. She was trying to trigger him, get under his skin and bait him 0.95

01:06:47.340 based on his ego, like triggering him about his rallies or about where he got his wealth from his

01:06:51.460 father. She was deliberately trying to provoke him. She was lying about his history. I actually

01:06:57.720 wanted him to say, are you trying to get me shot again by telling all these lies that make me sound

01:07:01.160 like I'm Hitler? Because that's why I just took a bullet to the head six weeks ago. He almost kind of

01:07:06.600 did say that. And then, as you pointed out, the moderators brushed past it, which blew my mind. Like, can you

01:07:11.360 imagine we are less than two months away or we're less than two months past an attempted assassination

01:07:16.020 on the president? They didn't even address that. Right. Didn't even address that. Yeah. Or the

01:07:20.460 divisive rhetoric. But I don't think Kamala Harris is dumb. She knew exactly what she was doing. She 1.00

01:07:24.460 was trying to appeal to suburban women. She was being deceptive about it. And at the end, she said she

01:07:32.060 turned to Donald Trump and said, we need to stop disparaging people. And I'm thinking to myself,

01:07:36.240 all you did up here was disparage him, which I don't care as much about two politicians disparaging

01:07:42.440 each other, but he represents us. He's up there because he because he's the one that we picked to

01:07:49.160 represent our values. And by disparaging him, she's disparaging us. Yeah. And she has proven going back 0.78

01:07:55.900 to her history. She was vice president. Before that, she was a senator. Before that, she was the attorney 1.00

01:07:59.960 general of the state of California. She's proved to us in California exactly how she wants to treat us 0.91

01:08:05.940 as Christians, as conservatives and pro-lifers. Yeah. We know our friend David Daleiden is still

01:08:10.360 entangled in all of the lawfare that she aimed at him. I mean, she raided his apartment. She took

01:08:15.780 his laptops and confiscated footage because he caught Planned Parenthood committing a crime. And

01:08:20.400 she didn't like that because she's cronies with Planned Parenthood. So she she tries to she tries to 0.99

01:08:24.740 make him a criminal. And she didn't investigate Planned Parenthood. No. Just to see. It'd be I mean,

01:08:29.580 it'd be one thing if she truly investigated, investigated both of them and found no wrongdoing by

01:08:35.500 Planned Parenthood. Of course you would. But she didn't even investigate just to see. Right. If

01:08:40.960 that were true, because she also she also tried to I mean, she didn't just try her her state of 0.99

01:08:47.100 California passed that law that the Supreme Court overruled that act. Yes. The Reproductive Fact Act,

01:08:53.000 which tried to force crisis pregnancy centers to advertise state funded free abortions. Yeah, that

01:08:58.760 she doesn't care about your First Amendment rights. We've already seen the weaponization of the DOJ 1.00

01:09:03.420 against what I believe to be free speech protesters who are standing in front of abortion clinics.

01:09:10.560 They're serving time in prison. That's Biden. This is only going to get worse under Kamala Harris. 1.00

01:09:16.380 OK, tell people where they can find your continued commentary on this, because you are a new Blaze TV

01:09:23.340 host, but you are doing what you have long done, which is offering fiery and apt analysis on everything

01:09:30.120 that's going on politically. So where can they subscribe? Yes. And I'm so excited to be part

01:09:34.380 of the Blaze. It's been so fun thus far. We're about a month in. You can. My show is on Monday,

01:09:39.640 Wednesday and Friday at 5 p.m. Eastern. You can go to YouTube dot com slash Liz Wheeler. You can listen

01:09:43.980 to it on Apple podcast or Spotify or you can watch it on Blaze TV dot com. Awesome. Thanks so much,

01:09:49.020 Liz. Thanks, Ali.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 11, 2024

Ep 1065 ｜ Kamala Lied, Babies Died

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