Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1066 ｜ Taylor Swift, Caitlin Clark, & Why the Normies Go Woke

00:00:00.840 What does our resident Swiftie think about Taylor Swift endorsing Kamala Harris?

00:00:08.620 Also, Caitlin Clark liked Taylor Swift's post.

00:00:13.100 Patrick Mahomes had something to say about the election, too.

00:00:17.180 We are going to look at all of this.

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00:01:29.680 Let's get to today's episode of Relatable.

00:01:31.700 Hey, guys.

00:01:42.000 Welcome to Relatable.

00:01:43.500 Happy Thursday.

00:01:44.760 Hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far.

00:01:47.020 If you want a debunking of Kamala Harris and ABC on immigration and abortion, you've got

00:01:53.680 to listen to yesterday's episode.

00:01:55.380 And if you want to know how my dad's and my predictions about the debate and the race came

00:02:02.060 true, go listen to our conversation on Tuesday.

00:02:06.340 Today, I want to get more into quite a few stories, so I'm going to try to move through

00:02:11.220 them as thoroughly, but as quickly as I can.

00:02:14.480 And the first story I want to talk about is Taylor Swift and her endorsement of Kamala Harris.

00:02:21.120 We briefly responded to her Instagram post yesterday, but of course, I've got to get

00:02:28.220 Brie's take because, as you know, Brie has historically been a fan of Taylor Swift.

00:02:34.900 I know that Taylor Swift is not y'all's favorite, and some of you might be thinking, why do we

00:02:39.420 care about this?

00:02:40.080 Why are you even talking about who Taylor Swift supports?

00:02:43.660 Well, as you guys know, she is incredibly influential.

00:02:47.380 She has the adoration, the admiration, the adulation, all of it, of a lot of young women

00:02:56.340 and unfortunately shapes the worldviews, the perspectives, and the definitions for moral

00:03:06.500 truths for a lot of young women.

00:03:08.780 And so what she says carries weight.

00:03:12.100 It might not carry enough weight to determine the fate of the election, but it carries weight

00:03:17.820 and it tells us a lot about where we are as a country.

00:03:22.800 It tells us a lot about where our culture is.

00:03:25.680 And so I do want to dive a little bit more deeply into it, what some of the responses have

00:03:31.420 been.

00:03:32.400 And again, why I think this is significant, what we can do on the rational side of things

00:03:38.380 to push back against something like this, and what I think is really just kind of like

00:03:42.620 the moral backdrop of some of these words.

00:03:45.860 So just as a recap, she posted this as a self-proclaimed childless cat lady. 1.00

00:03:53.240 You can see the post that she posted on Instagram if you're watching on YouTube.

00:03:59.460 She says, like many of you, I watched the debate tonight.

00:04:04.020 I don't think that she actually did.

00:04:05.940 And she says, as a voter, I make sure to watch and read everything I can about their proposed

00:04:11.200 policies and plans for this country.

00:04:12.840 Also not true.

00:04:14.060 I'm sorry.

00:04:14.640 That's just not true.

00:04:16.200 She said that she's concerned about the development of AI, that there is an AI image that of her

00:04:21.120 that endorsed Donald Trump.

00:04:22.500 And so she's got to be really clear about what she believes.

00:04:26.180 She says that she loves Kamala Harris and Tim Walls.

00:04:28.820 She's really heartened by Tim Walls as a vice presidential pick.

00:04:32.140 And he has a long history, she says, of standing up for LGBTQ rights, IVF, a woman's right to

00:04:38.940 her own body.

00:04:40.300 That is the euphemism that she is employing for dismembering and poisoning and starving 1.00

00:04:45.120 living babies inside the womb.

00:04:48.120 She describes Kamala Harris just completely, seriously, non-ironically, as steady-handed,

00:04:55.020 a gifted leader and someone who is going to lead our country by calm and not chaos.

00:05:02.600 The exact opposite is true.

00:05:05.120 The exact opposite is true.

00:05:06.800 If you look at the policies that Kamala Harris has represented, her entire political legacy,

00:05:13.760 and I would say personal legacy, when you look at the personal choices she has made,

00:05:18.000 they're completely characterized by chaos.

00:05:21.100 Her immigration policy, her health care policy, her economic policy, her policy when it comes

00:05:27.980 to transing children, all of these policies are characterized by moral chaos, by degeneracy.

00:05:36.720 The foreign policy that she has helped oversee as vice president has only led to more conflict,

00:05:42.680 more war, more embarrassment for the United States, more instability.

00:05:46.920 But Taylor Swift, this person with tens of millions of fans, says that she is supporting

00:05:55.480 Kamala Harris because of the wisdom and the power and the strength that she represents.

00:06:03.440 The Babylon Bee gave us a very fitting headline, I think.

00:06:09.680 Woman who made career singing about her bad choices endorses Kamala.

00:06:14.800 True, as we mentioned yesterday, she's got that line, which I think is very appropriate.

00:06:20.260 I have this thing where I get older, but just never wiser.

00:06:25.280 That does seem to be true of Taylor Swift in a variety of ways.

00:06:30.000 She is, I think, a 34-year-old woman whose past is littered by, I think, in her own words,

00:06:36.800 these mistakes, these very rash, emotional relationship decisions that she has made over her life.

00:06:46.540 And now here she is saying that we, well, she doesn't explicitly say this, but it does seem

00:06:53.180 like this is what she is at least implying, that we should all endorse and support someone like

00:06:59.060 Kamala Harris, who is as radical on things like abortion as it comes.

00:07:04.300 Um, this is because Taylor Swift is a highly emotional person who has not

00:07:09.020 thought about this from a moral or rational perspective at all.

00:07:12.900 Okay.

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00:08:38.260 Okay, Brie, we mentioned yesterday that Taylor Swift has been reamed recently because of her 0.90

00:08:46.520 friendship with Brittany Mahomes. Brittany Mahomes is the wife of Patrick Mahomes, who is a very famous

00:08:52.660 player from the Kansas City Chiefs. And of course, Taylor Swift's boyfriend, Travis Kelsey,

00:08:59.660 that's his name, right? He plays for the Kansas City Chiefs. And so Brittany is allegedly a Trump

00:09:05.860 supporter. There's a couple of things that she said recently that people think mean that she supports

00:09:11.200 Donald Trump and Taylor Swift and Brittany are friends. There have been several posts on X

00:09:17.960 criticizing Taylor Swift for this. Like you cannot be friends with someone who believes in violating

00:09:23.920 human rights, yada, yada, all the stuff that they say about Trump and his voters. I think that that is

00:09:30.700 where this post is coming from. It's not because she watched the debate. It's not because she did

00:09:34.600 her research. She's liberal and she wants everyone to know it. Yeah. Well, I think she has a unhealthy 0.98

00:09:43.380 obsession, to be honest, with what people think about her. And I think that probably comes naturally

00:09:49.140 with this amount of fame, to be fair. But I mean, people were trying to start a campaign to boycott her 1.00

00:09:56.480 because she breathed the same air as Brittany Mahomes one time. Yeah. So it's, I think she saw

00:10:04.700 that and I think she knew. I have the VMAs coming up where she, which was last night, where she won

00:10:11.000 multiple awards. She obviously wants her next albums to continue selling out. She's at the top of her

00:10:17.400 career, someone might argue. I think she sees people being upset at her for the first time in a while

00:10:23.240 and she says, I got to fix this immediately. And I think that's all it was. You're right. She did

00:10:28.340 not do her research, clearly. She has no idea what the average American has been through under Biden

00:10:35.900 Harris. She has no clue what the price of groceries is or what the price of gas is. And if she did, 0.62

00:10:41.920 it wouldn't matter to her. So those things aren't of concern to her. She doesn't care. This is all PR.

00:10:49.740 It's not real. That's just what it is. Do you think it is her personally that cares so much

00:10:56.980 what people think? Or do you think it's more her PR team? I think it's her. I do. I think she's at

00:11:02.940 the point where she does kind of lead her whole team. I think she knows what she wants. And I think

00:11:12.000 she is a smart businesswoman. I don't think this was the smartest time to post something like this,

00:11:17.380 though I understand her reasoning, kind of. But I think she's smart. And I think it was her decision.

00:11:24.820 Yeah. I don't know if she would really... Does she really think that making people mad like this, 0.87

00:11:35.100 say she didn't endorse anyone, that she would sell fewer albums and fewer concert tickets? Does she

00:11:43.140 really think that would make that much of a difference? Because I don't think it would.

00:11:46.820 People forget about it. Also, she's got a ton of Republicans and conservatives that go to her 1.00

00:11:52.280 concerts. I know people out there are upset about that. And I totally get it. But I mean,

00:11:57.320 there are a lot of people voting for Donald Trump that go to her concerts. She doesn't seem to care

00:12:01.940 about losing their support.

00:12:03.880 Yeah. Yeah. And that was the whole point of her like 2020 documentary where her dad warned her

00:12:10.260 about that and said, you will lose half your fan base. And that didn't happen when she started

00:12:15.620 talking about it. It just didn't. But I think she thinks it will. And she said before how insecure

00:12:21.820 she is about getting older and becoming less relevant. And she probably knows that this is kind

00:12:29.260 of the tippy top and she's not going higher than this. Yeah, it probably is the tippy top because I

00:12:35.460 mean, of course, you can be a Celine Dion and you could be a Cher. But at the same time, like they

00:12:45.460 have the pipes. I think that I'm not saying that she's a bad singer, but she's not Celine Dion. She's 0.95

00:12:51.580 just not. I mean, a lot of her, the appeal of her concerts is her ability to move and her ability to

00:12:57.760 look cute and dress up and to talk about these immature, frivolous relationships. You can only

00:13:03.180 do that for so long. I mean, look at Madonna. Like you can only do that for so long before people

00:13:08.660 were like, I'm kind of sad. Like, OK, I love the Backstreet Boys, love the Backstreet Boys. And I

00:13:14.160 finally went to one of their concerts a couple of years ago. I'm not saying they're in the same bucket

00:13:18.000 of Taylor Swift. I don't know. They don't make political statements as far as I know. But I OK,

00:13:24.380 their concert was great. I'm so sorry, Nick Carter, if you're watching this. But like as

00:13:29.920 they were dancing and they were talking about these like breakup songs, I was like, this is

00:13:35.900 kind of sad. Like there's something a little sad about it. Clearly, like they had to take

00:13:40.280 a lot of breaks. They had to sing a lot of ballads because they're in their 40s and 50s,

00:13:45.360 of course. And that's fine. But it gets to a point to where, OK, you can't sing the same

00:13:51.100 kind of things. And you can't move the same way. It's just not the same. There's a point

00:13:56.320 to where we're all kind of like backing away slowly and hoping that you just kind of like

00:14:00.360 retire like with your families and all of that. It could get that way with Taylor Swift. She is at

00:14:05.960 the tippy top, which is why to me, I don't even know why you would make maybe that maybe that's why

00:14:13.480 actually maybe that's why she's making this statement. It's really not because she's afraid

00:14:18.000 that she's going to lose fans, but because it's the acceptable it's it's the acceptable

00:14:24.500 position to take, quote unquote. And it's really probably less about her fans and maybe more about

00:14:31.420 her powerful friends who are all liberal and who are pressuring her and talking to her and her

00:14:38.320 activist friends saying like, you're going to save democracy by making this post. Literally,

00:14:43.740 I know that we laugh at that, but she might literally be thinking that because I mean,

00:14:50.480 she sang she did not have to sing the song. You need to calm down that we've talked about before

00:14:55.700 where she portrays everyone who is for the natural definition of marriage as hillbillies in trailer 1.00

00:15:02.300 parks without any teeth. I mean, that's rude to hillbillies, trailer parks and people without teeth 0.99

00:15:08.400 and Christians. Like it's so rude. Like she doesn't care about that at all. She didn't care 0.88

00:15:14.440 about losing those fans. And honestly, she didn't. She didn't. She didn't lose conservative fans. Like

00:15:19.480 you're one of many, many. So I'm not just saying you. So I don't know. It's got to be something that

00:15:26.180 she really thinks that she is like righteous and salvific doing this. Yeah. I think that documentary

00:15:34.700 in 2020 did shed a lot of light into her thinking and how I don't think she puts enough thought into

00:15:41.780 that. It's very childish as as smart as I think she is on a business level. I yeah, I think there's a

00:15:47.380 lot of a lot of immaturity, a lot of immaturity. Okay. And in case people don't know what we're

00:15:51.320 talking about, this is the first time I heard her talk about politics and I was like, wow. Okay,

00:15:57.800 here's that one. It really is a big deal. She votes against against fair pay for women. She 1.00

00:16:07.560 votes against the reauthorization of the of the violence against women act, which is just basically

00:16:11.920 protecting us from domestic abuse and stalking stalking. She votes. She thinks that that if 0.99

00:16:17.480 you're a gay couple, or even if you look like a gay couple, you should be allowed to be kicked out of 1.00

00:16:21.360 a restaurant. It's really basic human rights. And it's right and wrong at this point. And I can't 0.72

00:16:26.760 see another commercial and see her disguising these policies behind the words Tennessee Christian 0.99

00:16:35.260 values. Those aren't Tennessee Christian values. I live in Tennessee. I am Christian. That's not

00:16:40.760 what we stand for. Okay, so Marsha Blackburn did become senator. She is still a senator from Tennessee.

00:16:49.080 Have a bunch of terrible things happened because of Marsha Blackburn? And of course, there's more to

00:16:54.420 the story on every single piece of legislation there. That's something that Democrats do very

00:17:00.300 well. They will name a piece of legislation. And what the bill actually does is the opposite of what

00:17:07.180 they say, or they sneak things in there that of course, no Republican would support so that they can

00:17:12.700 say, see, Marsha Blackburn is against protecting women from stalking and violence. When of course, 0.99

00:17:17.180 that's not true. She's very, very emotional, very immature, just a very superficial understanding of

00:17:27.700 politics there, you can tell. And we played a clip from her concert a few months ago, where

00:17:34.960 she was giving some political spiel. And I said the same thing then, like, I'm sorry, but she sounds

00:17:40.880 sometimes when she's talking like a child. What do you think, Brie? Yeah, I agree. And I think we've

00:17:49.140 said this before, too, but, you know, she, like, didn't get to finish high school because she started

00:17:54.140 being super famous when she was, like, 15, I think. And I think that stunts your emotional growth a

00:18:00.440 little bit. She didn't get to be around people who were like her when she was younger. And I really do

00:18:07.420 think that's why she's kind of, uh, immature. Yeah. So, but I will say another aspect of this

00:18:14.760 that I think is important is the reason, or the, one of the reasons I think she posted this is

00:18:19.980 because of the fan backlash or fan backlash on X. Um, and a lot of the accounts that have little

00:18:27.360 watermelons in their names and bios, which means the Palestinian flag, but they think they're not

00:18:33.820 allowed to put that. I have always seen the watermelon next to the Palestinian flag. Why is 0.99

00:18:37.300 it a watermelon? I think the reason is they're like, we're going to get like in trouble if they

00:18:42.820 see that we support Palestine. So we're going to code it. I think it's like a code and, and they're 1.00

00:18:47.620 all supposed to know. We cracked it. Um, so yeah, when you see a little watermelon, that's a, that means

00:18:53.220 they're Palestine supporters. And usually you're about to read something really dumb when you see that. 0.90

00:18:58.440 Um, but it's all those people and their commentary about how, yeah, like we said, you can't be friends

00:19:04.940 with anyone who doesn't agree with you on things. Um, and I think that the fact that those people are

00:19:12.360 like 13, 14 year olds who don't understand how the world works and Taylor Swift is 34 years old.

00:19:18.640 She, I think was bullied by a bunch of preteens into making a post like this. And that's just really 0.54

00:19:25.240 sad. It's like very sad. It's really sad, but there's gotta be some people in her life too,

00:19:30.840 that are like, Hey, you really need to do this. I'm sure this is about my rights. What do you think

00:19:35.920 about? I mean, she, she only listed like a few specific issues that she really cares about.

00:19:41.380 One of them was IVF, which I just think is odd. Like Tim Walls hasn't fought for that. He said he

00:19:49.060 went through IVF or his family did and they didn't, they went through IUI, which doesn't carry the same

00:19:54.440 ethical concerns for a lot of people. So that was weird. So much research she did, but she also

00:20:00.500 said a woman's right to her own body. Were you surprised at all that that was one of the three 0.87

00:20:06.380 issues that she says she cares about? Um, no, uh, because I think she has done that before.

00:20:15.280 I think when she endorsed Biden, she said something similar about that was one of the issues that she

00:20:21.700 cared about women's women's reproductive freedom. I don't even know if she said reproductive freedom, 0.98

00:20:26.120 but a right to someone's body. Um, so no, no, that doesn't surprise me. And that's a talking point.

00:20:32.160 You've talked before about how Kamala hit that's where Kamala shines. And I think that's just kind

00:20:38.120 of where like female celebrities are landing their, their talking points right now. 1.00

00:20:43.220 Yeah. It's just so, I mean, it's really sad that that is, you're right in 2020, like she said the

00:20:50.200 same thing about Biden, like women have a right to choose what happens to their bodies. You do have 1.00

00:20:55.320 a right to choose what happens to your body. And if you engage in the act of sex, which is biologically

00:21:01.660 meant to create a child, then you are taking responsibility, not only for what happens to your

00:21:07.840 body, but then what happens in your body, you have now potentially, I mean, obviously during

00:21:13.760 pregnancy, if that results from your act of, uh, your, your sex act, then you have a distinct human

00:21:24.060 being inside of you with its own distinct DNA from the moment of conception. And from that point on,

00:21:30.620 you have another human being who has rights and that child's right to life, the most fundamental right

00:21:36.780 without which we would have no other rights. That child's right to life supersedes your right to

00:21:44.300 comfort. It supersedes your right to convenience. It supersedes your desires and your wants. It

00:21:53.600 supersedes any feeling or want that you may have. It supersedes your career goals because that child is a

00:22:01.760 human being and she stands, Taylor Swift stands unapologetically for the slaughter of

00:22:06.600 babies. Like that is one of the only topics specifically that she will bring up for why

00:22:12.360 she votes Democrats. It's really, really disturbing. Okay. We'll talk more about this in a second. Let

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00:23:20.780 Okay. A little bit more about Brittany Mahomes. So Brittany Mahomes showed support for former 0.53

00:23:35.560 President Trump by liking one of his recent Instagram posts. And then TMZ reported on it. And I guess

00:23:44.500 Trump Vance talked about it and she got a lot of hate for that. And then when she posted about it in

00:23:50.360 response on Instagram, she didn't say, Oh, sorry. No, I didn't really do that. That's not true.

00:23:55.340 She said, I mean, honestly, to be a hater as an adult, you have to have some deep rooted issues.

00:23:59.940 You refuse to heal from childhood. There's no reason your brain is fully developed and you hate

00:24:05.020 to see others doing well. Trump said, I want to thank beautiful Brittany Mahomes for so strongly

00:24:11.500 defending me. I don't know if she would necessarily like if she would agree with that language that he

00:24:18.560 used, but she didn't back down. She didn't apologize. And then we've got this picture of

00:24:22.600 Taylor Swift and Brittany Mahomes hugging together with their significant others. So, so sweet. And

00:24:31.560 then an op-ed from Variety says if Taylor Swift doesn't endorse Kamala Harris, she'd be entering a 0.97

00:24:37.160 new era. And then the watermelon freakazoids that, um, that Brie was talking about saying, Oh my

00:24:46.400 goodness, she absolutely has to say something about this. The Swifty fandom has to unite. This is against

00:24:56.320 human rights and all of this stuff. Brie, I don't know if you agree with this. I know that she didn't

00:25:02.700 directly throw Brittany under the bus in her post, but I think in light of the context and the, um,

00:25:12.800 and just the backlash that she received, that this is obviously a response. I do think it's an

00:25:18.200 underhanded way to throw your friend under the bus. Yeah. I guess for people who know the context,

00:25:24.940 I think you're right. Yeah. I had originally said that I, I appreciate that she didn't say anything

00:25:32.280 explicit about it. Um, because I think they are friends, a genuine friends. Um, but I guess that

00:25:40.180 I think that's a fair point. Yeah. Even calling it out at all, making a statement at all probably is

00:25:45.120 because people know. Yeah. It's in reaction to this. To me, it's affirming the criticisms that,

00:25:51.100 oh yeah, she's problematic. Your friendship is problematic and that you being friends with someone

00:25:56.640 at least give some kind of message that you support everything that they support. I think I,

00:26:02.760 you know, like if you really wanted to be a girl's girl, which she says that she, I think she says that

00:26:07.380 she is, I think that she would pretend to be anyway, then it would have been awesome for her to 0.60

00:26:14.220 actually explicitly say like, or if she responded, I think it would have been better. Like you said,

00:26:19.580 not to respond at all, but to say, yeah, like Brittany is my friend. No, we don't agree on everything.

00:26:24.740 We don't talk about politics, but Brittany is really kind and we share a lot of the same

00:26:29.100 values, even if we're not voting for the same person. That would have been an implicit endorsement

00:26:34.680 of Kamala Harris, but I would have thought, you know what? Like that is a good way to model

00:26:39.260 how we can disagree and still love each other. But to me, this was backhanded. If I were Brittany,

00:26:45.340 I would be like, oh really? You care a bunch about what a bunch of like 13 year olds say on X that

00:26:51.060 you had to make a whole statement about it. Yeah, no, I think that's a fair point. And also

00:26:55.780 Taylor Swift gave herself an out actually to not talk about these kinds of things because when that,

00:27:02.000 um, when the terrorist threat happened in Austria and she had to cancel her concerts, um,

00:27:07.820 she made a post after her European, the leg of her tour ended and said, essentially she was arguing,

00:27:14.000 I deliberately didn't make a statement about that because I didn't want to incite people

00:27:18.680 to do something at my further, at my shows after that. Um, so, and she, she explained that a lot

00:27:24.460 of people weren't happy with that. They thought that wasn't sufficient. She needed to speak about

00:27:27.920 everything. Um, but she gave a reasoning. What kind of statement? Cause it was Islamic terrorism, 0.96

00:27:33.220 right? Yeah. Yeah. And they wanted her to make a statement condemning that of course. Um,

00:27:38.300 and her reasoning was, well, I'm, I'm about to have shows in London. No, her reasoning was,

00:27:44.580 I don't want to make the Muslims mad. Well, yes, that's the real reasoning. But what she's 0.93

00:27:49.540 explaining in the post is I didn't want to incite anything to happen at my London concert.

00:27:54.940 Once again, she's scared of the watermelon freakazoids. Yes, totally. But she's giving

00:28:00.140 herself an out that she didn't even use this time that she could have. So I just find it also silly. 0.66

00:28:06.140 Um, you're right. Obviously that was like the, the heart behind it, but yeah, I mean, I, of course,

00:28:11.560 like, and I want her to be safe. That's a horrible, horrible thing that happened. Yeah. But I, and

00:28:17.460 maybe part of, part of it was for safety and security reasons. And I can respect that and

00:28:22.520 understand that, but yeah, she wasn't going to say anything because then you would have to talk

00:28:28.100 about the fact that it was Islamic terrorism and that that's, but that's, that's the thing. She says

00:28:33.100 that she cares about women's rights. She cares about LGBTQ rights. She cares about all of this stuff.

00:28:39.320 Well, you were literally just victimized by a global regime that oppresses women, like as a part of its 0.95

00:28:49.260 innate function. Yeah. Millions and millions of women are literally tangibly, not just like fictionally, 0.95

00:28:57.080 like in the handmaid's tale here in the United States, like actually oppressed, sold as child

00:29:04.160 brides, raped, unable to show any part of their body, can't get education in places run by the very 1.00

00:29:12.020 kinds of groups that attacked you and you champion of human rights. You can't even say a thing about

00:29:19.600 that. Yeah. Come on. But here's, here's the thing is that when it comes to celebrities on the left,

00:29:28.020 they're completely unabashed about, you know, like what they stand for and they're going to

00:29:34.220 endorse. But when it's celebrities on the right, the most we might get is like a roguelike on an

00:29:40.360 Instagram post. But when they are asked about it, they're neutral, but neutrality is conservative

00:29:46.880 coded. It just is like, there are just very few, there are very few celebrities athletes that if they are

00:29:55.900 liberal, that they are going to just be like, no, I'm neutral. Like Steph Curry, he was on, I think,

00:30:00.040 NBC the other day. Yeah. I don't think we have that clip because I didn't know I was going to talk

00:30:03.880 about it, but he was asked to like, oh, you know, who do you support? The correct answer is I don't

00:30:10.260 really know anything of what I'm talking about, so I'm not going to say that. He said that he's voting

00:30:15.520 for Kamala Harris. This is a guy who is a professing Christian, literally for abortion. What?

00:30:20.580 What? What? Like, it's so crazy how killing babies is the thing that professing Christians 1.00

00:30:29.160 like Taylor Swift and Steph Curry, that that is their justification for voting for a communist 0.95

00:30:34.760 candidate. Like the open borders, the price caps, the taxes on unrealized gains. Of course,

00:30:41.440 those things don't affect them. And the lawlessness, like all of that is worth it just if women have 1.00

00:30:48.720 more access to killing babies through nine months. Yeah. How depraved and demonic is that? 0.99

00:30:55.740 So I actually do commend it, commend athletes who are like, yeah, I'm just not going to talk about

00:31:00.360 that. And that is Patrick Mahomes, of course, the husband of Brittany Mahomes, who we've just been

00:31:06.180 talking about. He was asked, who do you support in this election? Here's thought two. I've always said,

00:31:12.920 I don't want I don't want my place and my platform to be used to endorse a candidate or do whatever

00:31:18.560 each either way. I think my place is to inform people to get registered to vote to inform people

00:31:24.500 to do their own research and then make their best decision for them and their family. And so I think

00:31:29.720 that's every time I'm on this stage and I get asked these questions, I'm going to refer back to that

00:31:34.240 because I think that's what makes America so great. Now, I do wonder if like that last line there

00:31:39.020 was a little bit of a like make America a little wink. What did you say? I doubt it. I don't think

00:31:44.300 that he meant to. But to me, when someone says that they don't want to talk politics,

00:31:48.160 that typically means they're voting for Trump. Now, maybe that's the problem is that when you're

00:31:53.900 conservative, you're neutral and when you're liberal, you're not. And so I think if more people

00:32:00.300 could be unapologetic. Now, I know there's risk to this. There's cost to this. That's the problem.

00:32:05.240 But if more people who didn't have a lot to lose would stand up and be like, yeah,

00:32:10.020 I'm voting for Trump. So what? I would never vote for Kamala Harris. And here's why. Like I'm not

00:32:14.960 I'm not saying that all athletes should do that or that they have to do that or that they're bad

00:32:18.580 people if they don't. I'm not saying that. But I do wonder if more people with power, with

00:32:23.700 prominence were just like, I don't freaking care what you call me. Yeah, this is who I'm voting for.

00:32:28.240 This is who I'm friends with. Then it would help the underlings like the rest of us be able to stand up

00:32:34.700 and say, oh, OK. Like it gives people cover like Harrison Bucker, for example.

00:32:40.740 Obviously, he got in a lot of trouble or he got a lot of heat for giving the speech at

00:32:45.940 graduation a few months ago saying, you know, it's awesome to be a stay at home mom. And people

00:32:52.180 were like, oh, my gosh, Harrison Bucker is going to come to my cubicle and drag me home

00:32:57.520 into the kitchen and make me make pies for him. Like people thought that he was like forcing

00:33:03.280 forcing them. It was so crazy. And he just signed like a twenty five million dollar contract with

00:33:10.720 Kansas City Chiefs. Like he's fine. He's fine. I know for a lot of other people like there's risk.

00:33:17.320 But that's what I'm saying is like for Patrick Mahomes, if he wanted to, he could say, yeah,

00:33:24.000 like I'm voting for Trump and I don't think he would lose anything. Yeah. And also the others

00:33:30.460 kind of in the vein of what you were saying, but someone like Taylor Swift who makes a statement like

00:33:34.180 this, I don't think this is going to affect anyone. The people who are already voting for Kamala

00:33:39.640 are already going to vote for her. She's not changing minds by endorsing someone. But on the

00:33:45.280 other side, if someone like Patrick Mahomes or some, you know, singer or something like that

00:33:50.660 endorsed Trump, I think like a mainstream celebrity, I think that would change people's

00:33:57.000 minds because that would force people to be like, oh, OK, someone I really like and respect

00:34:02.260 is and not someone I think is crazy already supports him. Maybe it would have, you know,

00:34:09.700 people would look into him more. Maybe would people would actually do their research. And

00:34:13.640 so I think it would change things, actually.

00:34:16.240 Yeah, it would at least change the conversation. I mean, I do think after the assassination attempt,

00:34:21.660 a lot of people felt like that gave them, I don't know, like almost protection or enthusiasm to be

00:34:27.760 like, yeah, you know what? Wow. If this many people are out to get him, then like maybe he's doing

00:34:34.920 something right. Unfortunately, I think a lot of that has kind of shifted a little bit and Democrats

00:34:40.560 have been very strategic and like sucking the air out of that moment. But, you know, if someone is

00:34:47.620 not going to say, hey, I'm conservative and here's why, like I understand the neutral approach. And I

00:34:54.620 wish I actually wish everyone, every athlete would do something like that when it came to specific

00:35:00.820 candidates. I don't fault someone for standing up for their values like Harrison Butker did. But when

00:35:04.680 it comes to specific candidates, like, yeah, maybe just don't say anything. And Clay Travis pointed

00:35:10.440 out, this is like in Michael Jordan, when he was asked to comment on politics, he said Republicans buy

00:35:14.720 sneakers, too. Honestly, that should be like the extent of your public commentary. Caitlin Clark did the 0.98

00:35:23.060 same thing, but there's a little bit of a there are some layers to Caitlin Clark politically that we'll get 1.00

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00:36:14.200 code Allie. Okay, so Caitlin Clark also gave a neutral response. You all know Caitlin Clark. She has been

00:36:25.940 in the center of a lot of controversy. It's really weird. She's in the WNBA, but she was a controversial 0.83

00:36:31.900 figure. It really was like this odd racial battle that was going on for no fault of hers. She's just

00:36:40.800 a really good player. And people said, oh, people are only paying attention to her because she's white. 0.74

00:36:47.060 And she seems to be like the victim of some bullying on the court because of the media attention that has

00:36:54.960 been paid to her. But of course, it's not because she's white. It's because she's a great basketball 0.99

00:36:58.920 player. And she also, I would say, is like conservative coded. Like some of the things 0.99

00:37:04.300 that she said, there was a sweet video of her interacting with a fan. And she was talking about

00:37:09.520 like a baby inside the womb. And of course, she referred to it as a baby and how much she loves

00:37:15.120 babies. So she does just seem like a sweet person. And she was asked about her endorsement or who she

00:37:24.460 would endorse in the presidential race. And here's what she says. Sock three.

00:37:28.480 I think for myself is, you know, I have this amazing platform. So I think the biggest thing

00:37:33.160 would be just encourage people to register to vote. I think for myself, it's the second time I can go to

00:37:38.000 an election. At age 22, I could vote when I was 18. So I think do that. That's the biggest thing I can

00:37:44.380 do with the platform that I have. And that's the same thing Tara did. And I think continue to educate

00:37:49.300 yourself with the candidates that we have, the policies that they're supporting. I think that's

00:37:53.980 the biggest thing you can do. And that's what I would recommend to every single person that has

00:37:57.820 that opportunity in our country. Now, Caitlin Clark liked Taylor Swift's post. And it's not like I am

00:38:05.680 the biggest Caitlin Clark stan just because I don't really follow basketball. But Bree, like,

00:38:10.240 this is actually really disappointing to me. This is really disappointing because to me,

00:38:14.620 this means that she is voting for Kamala Harris. Like you wouldn't just support you wouldn't like

00:38:19.240 a post like that if you weren't. Yeah, I. Yes, I agree. I think if she were like a Trump supporter,

00:38:27.220 she would never like that post. So probably she is voting for Kamala. Yeah. But I do know a lot of

00:38:34.660 people, even personally, who will like anything that calls people just to like register to vote for

00:38:41.260 anyone, which I think is silly personally. But that could be the case. But yeah, pretty sure she's

00:38:48.960 voting blue. Caitlin, I think that you have people around you who will tell you the truth. You're

00:38:56.440 telling me that your dad is voting for Kamala Harris. I don't believe that. And I think that she's

00:39:03.260 Catholic. You can't vote. You can't vote for a pro abortion candidate. Come on, girl. Come on. You 0.99

00:39:10.840 don't want that. So I would say take your own advice. Educate yourself on the policies that each

00:39:17.540 represent and ask yourself, is this going to create more order or less order? More peace or less peace?

00:39:26.360 Is this going to create a better, safer, more prosperous future for my kids and grandkids? Or a

00:39:34.580 less safe, more dangerous, less prosperous future? All of that really matters. All of the noise about

00:39:43.060 so-called LGBTQ rights and things like that, that's really just a euphemism for taxpayer-funded

00:39:49.680 sex change surgeries for kids. I wish I were exaggerating. Remember Kamala Harris in 2019 told the

00:39:57.220 ACLU, as reported by CNN, that she believes in taxpayer-funded, quote-unquote, gender reassignment

00:40:04.480 surgery for detained illegal immigrants. I wish I were joking about that. That is literally who is 1.00

00:40:10.540 running for president. She is a radical in every sense of the word. I understand if you consider

00:40:14.700 yourself center-left. Kamala Harris is far left. Don't do that to your kids and grandkids, your future 0.62

00:40:21.700 kids and grandkids. Don't do that to yourself. You don't want to vote for the right to slaughter an 0.96

00:40:26.620 unborn child through nine months. That's not, I don't think that's what you stand for. All right,

00:40:31.580 we're going to close out by talking about, we talked about this a little bit yesterday, but we are going

00:40:38.180 to, we're going to fact check this a little bit more. The Springfield, Ohio story that you've probably

00:40:46.100 seen circulating on social media now, maybe you hadn't heard about it because it was almost exclusively

00:40:53.720 siloed on X and it became kind of like a meme. But now it is an actual story because Donald Trump talked

00:41:03.560 about it at the debate and ABC tried to fact check him on that and said, oh no, no, none of that stuff

00:41:09.760 is true. And that's a conspiracy theory. And as I said, I don't think Trump should have brought it up

00:41:15.500 because he wasn't exact in his language and it was fantastical sounding. So it really didn't matter

00:41:22.580 if there was any truth to it. What mattered was how did it sound to the American people who don't

00:41:27.400 have the time or the energy or the desire to go fact check him and to see if it's actually true.

00:41:32.420 And most of them aren't even on X. So he should have stuck with Lincoln Riley. He should have stuck

00:41:36.860 with Kate Steinle. He should have stuck with those names that people know to show the consequences of

00:41:43.220 illegal immigration. But instead he talked about like the ducks and the cats that are apparently being

00:41:47.540 eaten by these Haitian migrants, immigrants in the small town of Springfield, Ohio. And multiple media 0.99

00:41:57.560 outlets now have said this is a white supremacist far right conspiracy theory. This absolutely isn't

00:42:04.200 happening, but it is happening. It's actually much worse than that. Like there are some memes about the

00:42:09.560 cats and the ducks and the geese that are allegedly, allegedly, according to the citizens in this town,

00:42:16.280 being taken by these Haitian immigrants, chopped up in their yards, sacrificed, eaten. It's really 1.00

00:42:25.260 bigger than that and deeper than that. So let's take a look at what is really going on here. And you

00:42:31.060 can respond with all of this to your friends who say, oh no, that's a conspiracy theory. That's not

00:42:38.580 really happening. So here's a summary. Residents of Springfield, Ohio are voicing their outrage after the

00:42:44.880 sudden influx of Haitian immigrants has sparked numerous social issues. Overwhelmed services worsened 0.98

00:42:50.860 the housing crisis has also caused a number of fatal traffic accidents and oddly enough has led to

00:43:01.040 the deaths, the death of pets and animals on public land. The media is ignoring the interviews and the

00:43:08.200 public testimonies and the concerns of Ohio citizens. Governor Mike DeWine announced he is sending

00:43:14.240 additional law enforcement and millions of dollars to the overwhelmed city as he should, but he also

00:43:19.740 supported the program that imported these Haitian immigrants. So up to 20,000 Haitian immigrants have

00:43:27.020 moved to Springfield, Ohio in the last few years. According to the city's mayor, the last available

00:43:33.160 census shows us that the population had just 58,000 people. And so the influx was about of a third of the

00:43:42.860 town's population. Like I don't care what kind of people are moving into a town. When you take a town

00:43:49.340 that small and you bring that many people into the town, that's going to change the town. Now you could

00:43:55.740 argue that a town could be changed for the better, but it's going to be changed. It's going to be changed

00:44:02.160 for better or for worse. And I simply believe in the radical democratic idea, truly democratic idea,

00:44:09.440 that the citizens of a country and the people in a community should have a say in how their

00:44:15.620 community fundamentally changes. The Biden-Harris administration this past June gave 300,000

00:44:23.720 Haitians temporary legal status. Hint, it's not going to be temporary, which lasts until at least

00:44:30.300 February, 2026, because there's turmoil in Haiti. Now, why is there turmoil in Haiti? Because of government

00:44:37.260 corruption, because of gang violence, and really it goes back to voodoo. Like 100%, even those, 0.99

00:44:48.280 even I shouldn't say 100%, but it's close. It's somewhere like 98%. We've talked about this on an

00:44:53.500 episode before of Haiti. Even those who identify as Catholic or Protestant practice some form of voodoo,

00:45:00.640 of child sacrifice. I have a lot of people in my life who have been to Haiti as missionaries. That's

00:45:06.740 really the only support that Haitians get is through Christian mission organizations, Christian 1.00

00:45:14.360 non-profits, Christian missionaries that go there and try to bring some kind of order and some kind

00:45:21.760 of help to this very lost, for the most part, people. I mean, there are fundamental things,

00:45:27.980 fundamental civilizational things that Haiti just does not have. There was a story of a doctor who went

00:45:35.140 over there to help Haitians who were suffering from blindness. And one of the things that he noted was

00:45:44.940 that when he was trying to go through the medical files of the hospitals there run by Haitians,

00:45:51.280 they didn't even know about alphabetical order. Like there was no organization system whatsoever.

00:45:58.780 And that is just one picture of how the entire country is run and who suffers from that most.

00:46:06.580 It's children. Women and children pay the price for all of that disorder and corruption and violence 0.99

00:46:12.700 and chaos, but especially children. So of course, when you import, when you bring in hundreds of thousands

00:46:21.660 of those people who have no sense of what the first world is like, who have no sense of the kind of

00:46:28.220 laws and rules and regulations and decorum and social norms and social constructs that we have

00:46:35.800 here in the United States and in the West, that's going to be really hard. Now, that's not a case against

00:46:41.760 barring all refugees and all asylum seekers. That's just a reality that we have to reckon with. 0.66

00:46:49.100 And when you bring military aged men into the United States who have only ever known violence 0.97

00:46:56.460 and a level of barbarism, that is going to endanger your own citizens. And that is exactly

00:47:02.920 what is happening. So let's listen to some of the testimonies of the people who live in

00:47:08.480 Springfield. Here's thought six.

00:47:10.660 Nothing but immigrants over there. And I don't even want to like seem like I'm coming down on

00:47:15.360 immigrants because it's the people that's bringing them down here because wherever they're at, 1.00

00:47:18.580 that's what they're used to, bro. They're in the park grabbing up ducks by their neck and cutting

00:47:25.140 their head off and walking off with them and eating them like. 0.99

00:47:28.900 So, I mean, obviously that man, he's not being racist, is he, towards the Haitian migrants,

00:47:34.980 Haitian immigrants, I should say. I mean, that was a black man. This is just apparently a concerned

00:47:41.260 citizen. And here is Sot7.

00:47:44.780 These are not civilized people. Opening containers in our grocery stores, helping themselves to what's

00:47:50.760 inside and throwing the rest onto the shelves and floors. Pulling off of the highway to publicly

00:47:55.620 clean and gut the roadkill lying there in front of anyone that passes by. Stealing animals from farmers

00:48:02.060 and leaving their severed heads at the site of an old school where children play. Relieving themselves

00:48:07.200 in public. Making some barbaric stew out of the birds that live in our park. This is insanity and

00:48:14.440 it has to stop.

00:48:17.000 Look, I know that that might sound harsh, but look, these are, most of these are poor people

00:48:22.800 living in town just trying to get by and raise their families. And I think that we even like

00:48:28.680 bulk at this word uncivilized, but civilization is based on rules and regulations and basic

00:48:37.000 understandings. And all of this, all of these wonderful services that we have is built on trust.

00:48:45.460 It's built on a social contract. It's built on a high trust society. If you cannot live in a high

00:48:52.360 trust society, then you live in a fascist police state. And so the concerns of these people,

00:48:58.300 the safety concerns that they have, the civilizational concerns that they have,

00:49:01.460 the cultural concerns that they have are completely justified. And here is an elderly 0.99

00:49:07.200 woman giving her testimony at Saw 8.

00:49:09.000 But it is so unsafe. I have men that cannot speak English in my front yard, screaming at me,

00:49:16.540 throwing mattresses in my front yard, throwing trash in my front yard. And I can't.

00:49:21.600 I look at me. I weigh 95 pounds. I couldn't defend myself if I had to. My husband is elderly. And last

00:49:28.940 night after living in this home for 45 years, he said, Noelle, guess what? It's time to pack up and

00:49:34.980 move. Who's protecting us? If we're protecting them, who's protecting me? I want out of this town. I am

00:49:41.460 sorry. Please give me a reason to stay.

00:49:46.640 I mean, that just breaks your heart. Like, does she not matter? Do her concerns not matter? But

00:49:52.700 these people who come in, they don't even pay taxes. Like, they're not even citizens of this

00:49:57.020 country. They have no stake in this country. I mean, this is what Kamala Harris has done. 1.00

00:50:02.320 I mean, this is her policy. This is what she stands for. This is what she's fought for her entire

00:50:06.080 political career. Selling out the safety and the well-being of Americans for the sake of strangers 0.65

00:50:13.680 who many of them care nothing about our country. And that's okay to say. I'm tired of believing that

00:50:20.820 loving the foreigner and loving your neighbor means that we have to sell out our fellow citizens 1.00

00:50:27.520 on behalf of people who do not care if we live or die. Like, I just don't believe that. In fact,

00:50:35.120 I'll go so far as to say you can either love your neighbor or support the unmitigated importation

00:50:43.620 of unvetted immigrants, but you cannot do both. We have been purposely placed where we are on this 1.00

00:50:51.160 speck of eternity, on this piece of land, purposely and providentially by God who does nothing by accident.

00:50:56.980 And we are exiles in this world as Christians. And God told his exiles, his Israelite exiles in 0.95

00:51:05.000 Babylon in Jeremiah 29, to seek the welfare of the city that they are exiled in. For in its welfare,

00:51:10.620 you will find your welfare. I want to seek the welfare of the city that I have been placed in.

00:51:16.160 I cannot seek the welfare of my neighbors, of my community, of the children who live around me and

00:51:23.960 also support the unmitigated importation of unvetted immigrants. I just can't. I can do one 1.00

00:51:33.080 or the other. And I choose to love and care for the people around me. Countries are good. Borders are

00:51:38.420 good. Languages are good. Cultures are good. These are earthly mechanisms that God has given us for our

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00:52:31.680 So a couple more examples of what's happening before we close out for the week. I want to play at

00:52:38.280 least part of this testimony from this woman who talks about what happened with her mother-in-law

00:52:43.560 who was killed by one of these immigrants who, like many of these immigrants in this area, just 1.00

00:52:51.360 have no regard for the traffic laws. Everyone is talking about the death of ducks and cats in this

00:52:57.780 town, but I'd like to talk about the death of one very special person, my mother-in-law, Kathy Heaton.

00:53:03.040 On December 1st, I received a phone call that changed my life forever. She was collecting her

00:53:09.720 trash can from her driveway when a car struck and killed her instantly, a task she had done over

00:53:15.820 2,000 times spanning four decades in Springfield. That morning, though, a Haitian immigrant was 0.97

00:53:22.880 allegedly driving recklessly when he struck and killed her. I say allegedly because to this day,

00:53:29.500 there's been no punishment, not even for the expired tags on the vehicle he was driving.

00:53:35.020 And she is not the only one that has lost her life because of this. You might remember that a few

00:53:42.400 months ago, I think it was last year, there was an 11-year-old boy, Aiden Clark. He was killed

00:53:47.180 and more than 20 children were taken to the hospital. They were riding in a school bus that day

00:53:53.540 and a Haitian immigrant, as he was driving, crossed over the center dividing line, crashed into the school bus.

00:53:59.500 This 11-year-old lost his life because of open border policies, because of a policy that Kamala

00:54:05.180 Harris implemented. I mean, how many people have to die because of the policies that Kamala Harris 1.00

00:54:11.280 has championed while she has been in charge? Kate Steinle in California, that was under Kamala

00:54:17.880 Harris's watch. Laken Riley under Kamala Harris's watch as borders are. Aiden Clark under Kamala Harris's

00:54:26.420 watch, not just as borders are, but signing off on the policy that imported 300

00:54:31.640 unvetted Haitian migrants into the United States, into Springfield, Ohio.

00:54:39.240 On September 10th, Springfield City Commission met. The father of Aiden Clark said this, and I'll tell

00:54:45.120 you exactly what is going on here. It's really sad. Sot 9.

00:54:49.600 I wish that my son, Aiden Clark, was killed by a 60-year-old white man. I bet you never thought 0.99

00:54:59.020 anyone would ever say something so blunt. But if that guy killed my 11-year-old son,

00:55:07.200 the incessant group of hate-spewing people would leave us alone. The last thing that we

00:55:14.480 need is to have the worst day of our lives violently and constantly shoved in our faces.

00:55:20.520 Look, I understand that he just doesn't want his son's death to be politicized. And I feel for him.

00:55:30.300 And of course, I feel for this entire situation and what they have to go through. But the fact of

00:55:35.740 the matter is, is that his son's death was a result of a deliberate policy decision by people in charge.

00:55:42.280 And if we want fewer people to die, like if we want that to not happen again, if we want to protect

00:55:48.580 our citizens, then we have to care not just about the fact that he died, but how he died and who is

00:55:55.380 actually responsible for his death. Yes, citizens commit crimes too. But every crime that is committed

00:56:04.300 by an illegal alien is preventable. That is the difference. We don't need to add to the crimes 1.00

00:56:08.320 already being committed by our citizens. Loving your country is good. Every country has the right

00:56:14.640 and the responsibility to do that, to put the well-being of its people first. And you know what

00:56:20.440 it is, and I've got to close out here soon, but all of this from Taylor Swift to people's just denial

00:56:28.220 of the immorality of the immorality of this kind of importation of people and illegal immigration.

00:56:38.440 It's toxic empathy. Toxic empathy has so deluded us into believing that the loving and righteous

00:56:48.100 position is the progressive one. That in order to be loving and righteous and compassionate,

00:56:55.000 we have to affirm a woman's so-called right to murder her child, that we have to call a man she, 0.93

00:57:02.640 that we have to sign off on the redefinition of marriage, and that we have to open our borders

00:57:10.160 to quote-unquote love the foreigner, and that we have to promote lawlessness in the name of equity, 0.60

00:57:17.960 social justice, and racial justice. It's toxic empathy that has lied to us and has told us

00:57:27.800 that feeling someone's pain and affirming what they want is love, but it's not love.

00:57:34.980 Because love, as 1 Corinthians 13 6 tells us, rejoices with the truth. It never rejoices in

00:57:41.040 wrongdoing. That is the distinction for the Christian, and that is why I wrote the book Toxic Empathy. 1.00

00:57:47.000 We have a whole chapter dedicated to immigration, then abortion, then gender, then sexuality,

00:57:51.680 then social justice, and I just desperately wanted to give you all of the tools, all the information,

00:57:57.460 all of the arguments, biblical, logical, historical, scientific, for you to make the case for what I

00:58:02.940 believe to be the Christian perspective on all of these without the delusion and the deception and

00:58:08.700 the distortions of the media's emotional manipulation getting in the way. You can get that book,

00:58:16.240 toxicempathy.com. You can pre-order it. It's out on October 15th. This is one that you want to buy

00:58:22.880 for yourself. It's short. You'll be able to read it really quickly, but you also want to give it to

00:58:26.460 your friends, and you'll want to use it in your conversations with your friends, especially leading

00:58:31.360 up to the election. Politics matter because policy matters because people matter. Politics affects

00:58:36.040 policy. Policy affects people. People matter. The people in your neighborhood, the citizens in this

00:58:40.840 country that God has placed you in, their rights, their protection, their safety matter. Yes, everyone

00:58:46.920 is made in the image of God. Everyone needs the gospel, absolutely, but we have these boundaries,

00:58:51.800 these parameters, these borders, these citizenships here on earth for a reason. They help promote order.

00:58:57.360 Order is good, especially for the most vulnerable. Love your neighbor. Support God's order. All right,

00:59:03.420 that's all we've got time for today. We'll be back here on Monday.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 12, 2024

Ep 1066 ｜ Taylor Swift, Caitlin Clark, & Why the Normies Go Woke

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