Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 16, 2024


Ep 1067 | This New European Law Is About to Change the World | Guest: Justin Haskins


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1 hour

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171.51143

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10,408

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683

Misogynist Sentences

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7


Summary

Justin Haskins is the author of many books with Glenn Beck, and he has educated us on the emerging global order that mostly progressives in charge have been pushing through companies like BlackRock, through international institutions, and through national governments. And he is here to break it all down for us today with a little bit of hope because we can make a difference.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 We talk a lot about what's at stake in this election, abortion, immigration, the economy, but what if I told you one of the most important issues is a law, a little-known law that has just passed in the European Union?
00:00:17.760 And what if I told you that Donald Trump is the only person that can mitigate the great harm this law would cause to people like you, to American business owners?
00:00:31.020 Here to explain this incredible, disturbing story is Justin Haskins.
00:00:39.080 He is the author of many books with Glenn Beck, and he has educated us on the emerging global order that mostly progressives in charge have been pushing through companies like BlackRock, through international institutions, through national governments.
00:01:02.520 And he is here to break it all down for us today with a little bit of hope, because we can make a difference.
00:01:08.740 We can push back on this, but we have to have the courage to do it.
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00:01:29.080 Justin, thanks so much for coming back and seeing us.
00:01:32.020 Yeah, it's great to be back here and in the studio.
00:01:34.280 It's so cool to be here.
00:01:35.620 I know.
00:01:36.080 You haven't been to the new studio.
00:01:37.480 Okay, so you're here to bring us your trademark optimism, right?
00:01:40.660 Yep.
00:01:41.100 To tell us how awesome the world is and how things are going to be great.
00:01:44.840 That's why they bring me in.
00:01:46.200 Yay.
00:01:46.700 Yeah.
00:01:47.060 Awesome.
00:01:47.380 Can't wait to hear it.
00:01:49.340 Nothing could be further from the truth.
00:01:51.060 Oh, no, no.
00:01:52.260 I always have to end our episodes with some encouragement for people, but obviously the things that you have to say are important because they're real.
00:02:01.660 We wouldn't be talking about it if it was just like, these are your crazy projections based on your theories.
00:02:08.180 You're telling us things that are actually going on so that people cannot be paranoid but can be as prepared and knowledgeable as possible.
00:02:15.420 Yep.
00:02:15.840 And you're always covering what is actually going on beyond the headlines.
00:02:20.720 What's going on behind the scenes that no one really wants us to know about?
00:02:26.080 Well, so let's start there.
00:02:28.480 What's going on?
00:02:30.940 There is so much going on.
00:02:33.180 I think the most important story that has gotten completely drowned out by all the crazy stuff that's been happening in presidential elections and assassination attempts and debate performances and all of that is that there's this new law that was passed in the European Union, which at first most people, when they start to hear Europe, who cares?
00:02:54.220 It's like the first thing, but it's going to impact every single American.
00:02:59.760 It's called the Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive, the most sexy title you could ever come up with, right?
00:03:07.020 Essentially, what it does is create ESG social credit scores for companies, okay?
00:03:15.820 So we've talked about this before and we've talked about the Great Reset and BlackRock and a lot of those kinds of things.
00:03:21.100 These ESG scores are designed to transform the way companies operate, the kinds of products and services that they can sell, and then by extension, transform societies around it.
00:03:31.960 So lots of climate change initiatives are in there, biodiversity rules, land and water use, all kinds of social justice.
00:03:43.380 LGBT too.
00:03:44.380 Oh, yeah.
00:03:45.060 How diverse is your board of directors?
00:03:47.260 How diverse is your management team?
00:03:49.360 These are the kinds of things that are in these ESG scores.
00:03:52.020 Well, in the United States, there's no ESG law.
00:03:55.420 There's no social credit scoring law.
00:03:57.440 It's all being imposed by private companies, public-private partnerships between-
00:04:02.960 Like BlackRock.
00:04:03.460 Like BlackRock, exactly.
00:04:04.800 So like, just sorry, just to clarify, to give people an idea, Target, for example, like one of their majority owners, I think, is BlackRock.
00:04:13.020 Yep.
00:04:13.300 And then they've got Vanguard.
00:04:14.680 These are these huge global entities that champion progressive values for reasons we could probably talk about.
00:04:24.800 They're probably manifold, but a lot of people ask, okay, like, why doesn't Target care more when the customers stand up for something?
00:04:32.880 Well, it's because they care more about what BlackRock tells them to do than what the suburban mom tells them to do.
00:04:39.540 But a question I have for you, and I don't want to derail us, but just because I know this will kind of help people understand what's going on,
00:04:47.560 is that sometimes it does seem like companies respond to customers and it surprises me.
00:04:52.580 For example, last year when it came to Pride Month, a lot of customers raised a big ruckus about what was being sold in these stores.
00:05:04.540 Surprisingly, in response, I guess, to the backlash, this year it was extremely subdued.
00:05:11.020 And even people said, look, I went in in June, I didn't see any Pride stuff, and I only saw Patriotic stuff for 4th of July.
00:05:18.300 So my question to you, with all this ESG, why do corporations ever respond to what the customers say,
00:05:26.460 especially when they're conservative customers, when, as you've explained, they don't really have a profit incentive to do so?
00:05:34.000 Yeah.
00:05:34.160 So there's a balancing act that's going on right now, all right?
00:05:38.900 So you have BlackRock and these big asset managers and other big shareholders of these companies
00:05:44.740 that are really interested in moving towards a left-wing society, okay?
00:05:51.240 But at the same time, they want to make money.
00:05:53.780 So they want to make money, too.
00:05:55.120 It's not like BlackRock doesn't want to make money.
00:05:56.800 They do.
00:05:57.580 Yeah.
00:05:57.740 Even they have more money than I can even quantify.
00:06:00.220 Yeah.
00:06:00.760 Oh, yeah.
00:06:01.280 They have more than $10 trillion under assets under management at one point.
00:06:06.660 So, I mean, huge amounts of money.
00:06:08.720 So what BlackRock and those kinds of entities are pushing on companies is they want to move as far to the left as they can without losing money.
00:06:20.180 So the more people find out about these things, the more BlackRock backs off a little bit of their pressure on a company like Target because they don't want to lose money either.
00:06:31.060 A lot of these policies have actually been in place to varying degrees for a long, long time, but it was only recently that people started understanding what was going on.
00:06:40.380 And so for a long time, they were moving the ball forward very, very slowly, and most people didn't notice it.
00:06:45.780 I think they just thought, oh, you know, Target is moving to the left because the leadership at Target kind of leans left, and society kind of leans left, and it's all just moving in that direction very slowly.
00:06:57.560 But in reality, there was this ESG stuff going on behind the scenes, and it was all just happening very slowly.
00:07:03.580 Then around 2020, with COVID, everything ramped up huge.
00:07:08.560 There was a real concerted effort to transform society quickly.
00:07:12.880 A lot of that was in the wake of Trump.
00:07:15.880 Trump scared a lot of people in these elite circles who they now, you know, you had eight years of Barack Obama, and they thought for sure that Hillary Clinton was going to win in 2016.
00:07:26.440 And they thought, okay, this transformation of society can happen kind of slowly, and we're moving in the right direction.
00:07:32.220 And when you say they.
00:07:33.540 I mean BlackRock.
00:07:36.360 I mean World Bank, International Monetary Fund, United Nations.
00:07:40.760 The World Economic Forum.
00:07:41.880 The World Economic Forum.
00:07:42.760 World Economic Forum.
00:07:42.780 Charles Schwab.
00:07:43.600 Absolutely.
00:07:44.220 George Soros.
00:07:44.860 Yeah.
00:07:45.100 Unfortunately, when people hear those names, they think, oh, that's just conspiratorial.
00:07:48.620 Those people aren't even real.
00:07:49.940 They have real tangible power.
00:07:51.820 Yeah, absolutely.
00:07:53.040 And so this movement towards ESG has actually slowed a little bit in recent years, at least the front-facing version of it, what they are telling us and what they're doing.
00:08:03.600 The in-your-face kind of stuff, because the backlash was significant when people learned what was going on, and it cost them some money.
00:08:11.780 And once it started costing them some money, BlackRock said and other similar entities, okay, we need to slow this down a little bit, at least for now, and do more of this stuff behind the scenes.
00:08:23.100 And so actually, a lot of corporate policies haven't changed, but the in-your-face stuff, they've backed off a little bit because of how offensive it was to so many people.
00:08:33.100 And so that's what they're trying to do.
00:08:34.600 They're trying to move to the left without making it so offensive that people stop buying the products.
00:08:40.520 They understand that people can only tolerate so much cultural change, and they're probably afraid if they push too far, then they could start losing people that would otherwise be progressive.
00:08:53.460 I think even Barack Obama realized, I can only push so far so fast before everyone starts to recoil.
00:09:00.460 I also think, and I'm not trying to derail us onto the election, but just an example of that, you'll notice that Kamala Harris and the Democrats have not talked about transgenderism at all.
00:09:11.360 They're not championing trans rights.
00:09:14.000 ABC didn't bring that up at the presidential debate.
00:09:16.900 That wasn't a part of the DNC.
00:09:18.720 That's not a part of any of the ads.
00:09:20.760 They'll use the old school rainbow flag, but they won't use the trans flag.
00:09:26.140 They know, even though they are gearing to push it, they have pushed it, this administration, they will continue to weaponize the government to shove this down people's throats.
00:09:36.160 They don't publicly talk about that in an election year because it's too much, too fast, even for moderates.
00:09:42.860 Yeah, that was the biggest mistake that Donald Trump made in the debate, was not bringing it up.
00:09:47.600 Why didn't he ask her flat out, Kamala Harris,
00:09:50.960 what do you think about biological men participating in girls' sports?
00:09:56.840 What do you think of that?
00:09:58.120 Are you in favor of that or not?
00:09:59.180 Because she has to say yes or ignore it, but she can't go against the base of her party and not bringing that up.
00:10:08.220 Yeah, I totally agree.
00:10:09.420 So this law that happened in the European Union, they finally passed it.
00:10:13.160 It took them years to put it together.
00:10:14.900 They passed it in May of this year, 2024.
00:10:17.340 And unlike the ESG policies that we've been talking about so far, which are driven by the private sector, this is being driven by the government.
00:10:26.260 So the European Union codified the social credit scores for companies.
00:10:32.160 So they came up with their own left-wing ideas and values, and they passed this law in 2024, and they said it applies to large companies that are based in the European Union or non-EU companies, large EU companies, non-EU companies, that do above a certain amount of revenue in the European Union.
00:10:56.960 So, for example, Apple or McDonald's or companies like that, if they surpass this threshold of revenue, which is $489 million, then they have to adhere to these ESG rules as well.
00:11:16.100 What's really important about this is they don't have to adhere to the ESG rules only in the European Union.
00:11:23.540 It has to be everywhere.
00:11:25.060 So it's not enough for McDonald's or for Apple or for Meta or for Microsoft or for Google or for, and I could name a million other companies that this will apply to.
00:11:35.360 It's not enough for them to change their policies in the EU.
00:11:37.480 They have to change it in America.
00:11:39.160 They have to change it everywhere they do business.
00:11:41.120 That's what the law says.
00:11:42.620 And if they don't, then they can be fined 5% of their total worldwide revenue.
00:11:50.080 So for a company like Apple, if you do the math, that's $19 billion for one violation.
00:11:56.340 Wow.
00:11:56.620 So no one's going to violate this law because they can't afford to violate this law.
00:12:00.640 Oh, my gosh.
00:12:00.860 Okay?
00:12:01.260 So it embeds all kinds of crazy left-wing things about climate change, social justice, all the stuff you would imagine would be in there is in there.
00:12:09.460 But what makes it even crazier than that is that one of the requirements for these large companies that are covered under this law is that they have to impose it on all of the, not all, but almost all of the businesses that they work with in their supply chains upstream and downstream, no matter where they're located or how much business those companies do in the EU.
00:12:34.540 So, for example, Ford would be covered under this law.
00:12:37.900 Ford is a car company that sells cars in the EU above the threshold, so they have to adhere
00:12:43.640 to it.
00:12:44.120 They also have to make sure, Ford does, that all the businesses that they do business with in
00:12:49.740 America are also doing these ESG scores.
00:12:54.420 So you could be a rubber manufacturer in Ohio that does no business in Europe, but you make
00:13:00.120 rubber for Ford.
00:13:01.140 Ford, you also have to adhere to the EU rule, and Ford is going to be the one that imposes it on you through contractual insurances and other stuff.
00:13:10.440 So if Ford doesn't do that, then Ford gets fined 5% of their total worldwide revenue.
00:13:18.360 So obviously, they're going to do this.
00:13:20.380 So when you start playing out the ramifications of this, they're enormous.
00:13:25.820 We're talking about if you're a potato farmer who sells potatoes to McDonald's in Idaho, you now have to adhere to these left-wing ESG rules, even though you don't do any business in the EU at all.
00:13:37.740 If you're a truck driver that just transports products for any of these companies, if you're a farmer that sells food, you know, that sells cabbage to any of these companies, if you just do one little tiny piece of the component, or you do marketing for one of these companies, or you do software services for one of these companies, you will have to adhere to these ESG rules too.
00:14:01.480 And through this, you can transform the entire country, because you can transform hiring practices, business practices, the kinds of products that people sell and buy, the commitment to social justice goals generally.
00:14:16.860 And none of this comes from an American law.
00:14:20.040 It's all from this EU law.
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00:15:35.660 What's the end goal?
00:15:41.380 I know we've answered this before, but a lot of people are listening to this kind of conversation for the first time.
00:15:49.020 What is the picture of the world that they think that they are painting through this?
00:15:53.460 Because obviously, they think they're doing the righteous thing.
00:15:57.200 Yeah.
00:15:58.080 So there's a couple of factors at play.
00:16:01.240 One of them is financial.
00:16:03.600 So in the European Union, a lot of these things that they're trying to impose are already the law.
00:16:09.800 So when they created this law, the idea was not to make EU companies do these things.
00:16:15.480 EU companies are already forced to do these things in many cases.
00:16:19.220 Europe is much further to the left than the United States in many ways.
00:16:23.640 Not in all ways, but in many ways.
00:16:26.820 The problem that Europe has is they have to compete with everybody else who doesn't have to do all of this stuff, right?
00:16:32.920 So they have these climate transition plans and laws and all the stuff that we don't have in the United States.
00:16:39.580 They have all these taxes and things that we don't have in the United States.
00:16:43.500 And so the companies that we have here are at a competitive advantage over the companies based in the EU.
00:16:49.360 But not under this.
00:16:51.620 They're essentially saying, if you want to do any business at all in the EU, then you've got to make sure that you are adhering to our rules and that everyone you do business with is adhering to our rules.
00:17:02.160 And what that effectively does is make the world comply with all these costly EU regulations.
00:17:08.780 So they're imposing this crazy amount of costs on all these companies all over the world to make it easier for the EU-based companies to compete with them.
00:17:20.560 So it's kind of like a trade war almost.
00:17:23.280 It's a really backwards way of doing it, I guess, and a secret way of doing it.
00:17:27.400 But that's a big part of it.
00:17:28.880 It's kind of like corporate communism because, I mean, it's just like any left-wing proposal.
00:17:33.920 You're pulling everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
00:17:37.600 I mean, that's what equity is.
00:17:39.220 I remember Vice President Kamala Harris, she put out a video when she was running for president last time saying equity means we all end up in the same place, which is actually not truthfully, fundamentally what equity is supposed to mean.
00:17:51.720 It's supposed to mean treating everyone the same way.
00:17:53.700 But she said equity means everyone ending up in the same place, which, of course, was the vision of Marx and has always been the vision of communists.
00:18:00.940 But these policies never lift everyone up to the highest place that you can be, but rather pulls everyone down to the lowest and poorest place you can be.
00:18:14.280 And that's what it seems like is happening.
00:18:16.580 It's not like they're allowing these EU companies to level up and compete with the American companies.
00:18:21.600 It's saying, no, you're going to be just as poor and just as hamstrung as we are.
00:18:25.900 That's right.
00:18:26.560 That's exactly right.
00:18:27.520 And on that note, one of the craziest parts of the law, which we just found out about really, is that buried in this massive law, there's like one long paragraph that essentially mandates that these companies participate in one of the largest transfers of wealth ever in history.
00:18:51.360 And the way they do it is through this.
00:18:53.720 One of the big questions that we had for a long time when we were researching this law, and I've been looking at it for three years, basically, they've been working on it for three years, is, well, how are you going to make China go woke?
00:19:05.640 How are you going to make China make sure they have the right number of trans people or blacks or whatever on their board of directors?
00:19:12.740 Obviously, they're not going to do that.
00:19:14.260 What about some poor farmer in Mexico who sells a particular product for some food distributor?
00:19:19.960 I mean, are you really expecting them to adopt like electric powered, you know, farm equipment and stuff?
00:19:27.920 Yeah, of course.
00:19:28.500 Like they're not going to be able to do that.
00:19:29.800 So what are you going to do?
00:19:31.180 And we thought what they were going to do was simply selectively enforce it.
00:19:37.800 We're only going to enforce it on the people we want to change.
00:19:40.480 And then we'll just look the other way when it comes to China and the people we can't.
00:19:43.540 That's what the WEF and the UN does for human rights issues, all that kind of thing.
00:19:48.040 Exactly.
00:19:48.720 But we were wrong.
00:19:50.500 There is a long paragraph buried in this law that says if you're one of these major companies and you go to someone in the supply chain and you say, hey, you need to adopt electric powered cars because the EU tells us we can only do business with people who have electric powered cars.
00:20:10.000 So you have to start moving in that direction and XYZ company in China says, no, we're not going to do that because if we do that, we're going to lose a bunch of money.
00:20:18.140 We can't survive.
00:20:19.280 We can't have the same wage standards that you have.
00:20:21.920 We can't have the same environmental standards.
00:20:23.980 We can't do any of those things.
00:20:25.180 Sorry.
00:20:25.540 Then what the law says is the large company that's forced to impose this on these smaller companies in China or Mexico or wherever has to pay for the transition to happen.
00:20:38.680 So in other words, Ford buys some sort of component from some manufacturer in China.
00:20:44.880 They go to them in China and they say, you got to go to electric, all solar power for your factory.
00:20:51.240 And they say, no, otherwise we'll go, we'll go under if we do that, then Ford has to pay for them to go for solar.
00:20:59.840 So Ford has to be the one that does it.
00:21:01.800 So then Ford is like disincentivized to go to those companies and say, hey, we want you to make these for us.
00:21:09.020 But I guess you're saying that Ford basically under this law, they have no option but to go to a company.
00:21:15.480 And either they find a company that can afford to comply with the law themselves or they will just have to pay.
00:21:24.320 And so everyone's forced to pay up in some way.
00:21:28.780 I mean, what it actually says is that companies are expected to help them make the transition rather than go find another company.
00:21:39.360 So the explicit purpose of this is to make all of these companies all over the world transform in line with the EU objective.
00:21:48.280 Even like the poor avocado farmer.
00:21:50.500 That's right.
00:21:51.040 And don't worry about it.
00:21:53.580 Whoever, some big, massive corporation in America will pay you poor avocado farmer to make the transition.
00:22:00.100 But in reality, they're not going to pay for it.
00:22:02.520 They're just going to pass all those costs along to consumers.
00:22:06.760 That's who's going to end up paying for it.
00:22:07.680 So is there anything that, say, President Trump wins in November, is there anything he could do to mitigate the harm caused to American companies?
00:22:19.980 Well, if he does nothing, we'll start with that.
00:22:23.700 If he or Kamala Harris just do nothing, they don't help it, they don't hurt it, they just do nothing, then it will happen.
00:22:30.120 Because this is all being driven by the EU and big corporations that want to do business in the EU.
00:22:36.500 And for them, financially, it will always make sense to stay in that market rather than leave the market because they're making enough money that it makes sense for them.
00:22:44.820 Yeah.
00:22:45.280 Wait.
00:22:45.680 Sorry.
00:22:46.500 You just say so much and I just have so many questions.
00:22:49.480 Why don't all the corporations, like, why doesn't Apple, why don't these big corporations just stand up and say,
00:22:54.500 No, EU, we're not doing this.
00:22:57.040 Yeah.
00:22:57.580 Well, they make enough money in the EU that it makes sense.
00:23:00.620 It's cheaper for them to pay for the transitions that they have to pay for than it is for them to leave the EU market.
00:23:08.060 But what if they just, do they don't have enough power to bully the politicians to tell them, No, we're not going to do that?
00:23:17.240 Apparently not.
00:23:18.840 Apparently not.
00:23:20.500 I mean, they seem to have lost all ability to, there was a huge fight for three years.
00:23:29.800 Lobbyists were trying very hard to stop this.
00:23:32.560 Because most industries lost and the EU, sort of the far left wing of the EU, was successful in pushing this thing through.
00:23:42.340 What's really interesting is there is a giant carve out for one industry.
00:23:46.220 That one industry is the financial industry.
00:23:49.400 They did manage to get a carve out for them.
00:23:51.400 So the rules only apply to them in their own specific business operations.
00:23:56.900 So if you're a big bank, for example, and you buy paper for sending out letters to people, then you got to make sure your paper supplier is, you know, following these rules.
00:24:08.300 But you don't have to worry about where your money goes.
00:24:11.540 You don't have to worry about where you get your money or where you send your money or what kind of loan agreements that you have with people or things like that.
00:24:18.600 Why?
00:24:19.240 Because you would think that's, how is that any different than someone who sells radios to Ford or something?
00:24:24.500 They're part of the, because there was a carve out made for them and there was a crony deal that was cut out for them and that was negotiated and there was lots of fighting and all of that.
00:24:34.480 So the big corporations did try to stop this because they don't want to do it and they lost.
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00:25:52.900 Does George Soros have his fingerprints on this?
00:25:59.860 I mean, actually, directly or no?
00:26:02.720 You know, I don't think so.
00:26:05.580 I think this was driven—I mean, George Soros has his fingerprints on everything to some extent, you know,
00:26:10.680 and I'm sure you could find a nonprofit that was pushing for this that also got money from George Soros,
00:26:16.060 but you could do that for almost anything.
00:26:18.180 Generally speaking, this was something that was wanted by the far left.
00:26:24.440 Think of, like, the AOC types in the EU.
00:26:27.540 They wanted this.
00:26:28.940 They've wanted it for a long time, and they felt like the next stage of transforming society can't happen
00:26:36.360 until they solve this financial problem of the EU companies not being able to compete with competitors around the world
00:26:44.800 because it's so easy for an EU company, anytime you want to do something crazy,
00:26:48.480 to say to the EU politicians, if you do this to us, the EU economy is going to collapse.
00:26:54.820 We can't do this.
00:26:56.100 So they came up with a way to say, okay, we'll just make everyone do it.
00:26:59.360 We'll just make everyone collapse.
00:27:00.380 Don't worry about it.
00:27:01.420 Right.
00:27:01.600 And everything seems to have—everything that comes from this faction of the world seems to have a chaotic
00:27:09.000 and deleterious effect on the United States, and I have to think that's part of the issue,
00:27:14.240 is not even just to help EU companies, but to purposely hurt the United States
00:27:19.000 because a strong U.S. is really against the whole global order and regime that they're trying to create.
00:27:25.760 Correct.
00:27:25.960 So back to that, I completely derailed us.
00:27:29.480 The president, if it's Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, if they do nothing, it's going to happen.
00:27:34.300 Correct, because it's already the law.
00:27:36.040 It's already being—transition is already starting to happen.
00:27:39.020 Big corporations are already being told by law firms, you've got to do this.
00:27:42.880 Here's the things you've got to do.
00:27:44.100 This is all documented.
00:27:45.540 It's happening.
00:27:46.740 The only way to stop it is to have a president and Congress—a president might be able to do some of this on their own
00:27:55.640 because they do have a lot of power in negotiating trade deals and things like that,
00:27:58.760 but you have to, at the very least, have the president.
00:28:01.340 A Congress alone wouldn't be able to do it.
00:28:03.760 Go to the EU and say, no.
00:28:05.700 Like, you can do this to everybody else, but you can't do this to us.
00:28:09.360 And the reason the United States can do that and Mexico can't is because the United States is needed more by the EU than we need the EU.
00:28:20.040 We do do a lot of business with the EU, a lot of trade with the EU, but it's mostly for luxury items, things we don't actually need.
00:28:26.760 I mean, when's the last time you've had anything where it's, you know, made in Spain?
00:28:30.780 Yeah, exactly.
00:28:31.920 It's mostly high-end products and luxury items and luxury cars and fashion and stuff like that that we're getting from them, wine, things like that.
00:28:41.180 We can live without that stuff, but they can't live without us.
00:28:44.680 We provide them with cheap energy.
00:28:46.060 We provide them with software.
00:28:47.880 We provide them with emerging technologies.
00:28:50.200 They can't live without Apple, you know?
00:28:52.620 So we have all the leverage.
00:28:55.100 The only reason this is happening is because the people who are in power want it to happen.
00:28:59.600 That's the only reason.
00:29:01.740 And so Donald Trump is one of these people who is one of the few politicians, very prominent politicians, Republican or Democrat, who would be completely opposed to something like this.
00:29:14.880 Many, even Republicans, might be okay with looking the other way while this happens, but not him.
00:29:20.920 And I don't think it's a mistake that they pushed it through right at this moment.
00:29:25.900 They've been trying for three years.
00:29:27.500 They weren't able to do it.
00:29:28.480 I think they got nervous about what was going to happen with the election.
00:29:32.160 The transition isn't going to happen without laws, I think.
00:29:35.300 And they said, we got to get this through before this guy becomes president.
00:29:38.200 And that's exactly what has occurred.
00:29:40.420 I want everyone to understand the global mechanism that is invested in Donald Trump not being president.
00:29:46.800 And you don't even have to suggest direct meddling to understand what is at play in all of the huge international powers that are so incredibly financially, ideologically invested in making sure that Kamala Harris or any not-Trump candidate is in power.
00:30:16.440 Because someone who flexes America's muscles, which traditionally over the past, you know, at least a couple decades has been the Republican.
00:30:27.220 And like you said, there are definitely people on both sides that are complicit.
00:30:32.380 But when it comes to Republican versus Democrat, it's been the Republican side that has been more willing to say, I'll flex our muscles.
00:30:42.180 I'll use our leverage.
00:30:43.660 And Donald Trump is definitely that person.
00:30:46.420 I don't agree with him on everything, but he wants America to be the best.
00:30:50.440 He wants us to take the lead when it comes to trade.
00:30:53.020 He wants the other global powers to know, hey, we're in charge.
00:30:57.460 I think that most Democrats, most progressives are actually completely invested in America's weakness.
00:31:04.600 Obama was for sure.
00:31:06.060 And I have every confidence that Kamala Harris would be.
00:31:09.620 Yeah, I totally agree.
00:31:11.100 I think that Democrats, generally speaking, prioritize the sort of Western global order over America itself.
00:31:20.880 And they've made that very clear in their handling of Ukraine.
00:31:24.040 They've made that very clear in the way that they've dealt with this particular issue that we're talking about today and all sorts of other issues related to the United Nations.
00:31:31.760 They have no problem with paying money out to the entire world without getting anything in return.
00:31:37.780 They have no problem with giving away more and more of America's power to Europe because they see that as that's the way of having a properly functioning Western world.
00:31:49.320 We all have to be working together, part of the global order and all of that stuff.
00:31:54.000 And so Donald Trump does not fit into that, obviously.
00:31:57.040 He would bristle at, I have no evidence to believe he actually knows about any of this, but he would hate just the concept in general, regardless of what the social credit scores are calling for.
00:32:08.060 They could be right-wing things, but just the idea of having Europe tell us what we should do and how we should live and what our products and services should look like.
00:32:18.680 There's just no way he would be in favor of that.
00:32:21.140 So I think the only way this stops before it goes fully into effect, so it's already been passed into law, it's going to be phased in over several years, more and more companies, they have different thresholds and levels where they get phased in.
00:32:37.720 The only way this stops is if Donald Trump is president of the United States.
00:32:43.140 That's it.
00:32:43.700 And even then, it requires him to do something.
00:32:46.300 To do something.
00:32:47.700 To what?
00:32:48.880 Basically say, we're not complying?
00:32:51.020 Go to the EU and say, if you want to get our oil and gas, if you want to get our weapons for your wars, if you want to be protected in NATO and all of this other stuff, you're not going to do this to us.
00:33:06.480 You're going to make an exception, you're going to put it into law, and then we can talk.
00:33:10.800 And they will have no choice but to comply.
00:33:13.620 Yeah.
00:33:13.880 There's just no choice.
00:33:14.400 And that would be good not just for America, but it would be good for all of the people that you described, the poor Mexican farmer, because a strong America is good for the world, whereas the progressive mentality is that a strong America is bad and oppressive for the world.
00:33:26.820 And that's really where the difference in policy comes from.
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00:34:43.260 All right, let's talk about UN Summit.
00:34:45.760 It's coming up.
00:34:47.320 The Summit for the Future.
00:34:49.500 It sounds cheery, is it?
00:34:51.160 Well, it depends on your perspective on the world, I guess, right?
00:34:55.720 So, yeah, this is another incredible story.
00:34:58.740 This has been going on.
00:35:00.080 This is another one of these multi-year things that have been happening.
00:35:04.880 So, going back to the time of COVID into 2021, when we still had lockdowns and COVID insanity,
00:35:11.900 and it was especially bad in Europe well into 2021, the UN Secretary General, that's the head of the United Nations,
00:35:19.600 produced this report called Our Common Agenda.
00:35:22.740 And we've talked about it, actually, before in some of our other interviews.
00:35:25.980 And it was full of just crazy stuff.
00:35:28.820 And the idea was to dramatically expand the power of the United Nations.
00:35:33.900 And they used COVID as their justification for why we would need to do this.
00:35:39.200 It's proof.
00:35:39.980 We have to do something to address future crises.
00:35:43.480 We can't just rely on countries to do the right thing.
00:35:46.320 So, Our Common Agenda was this huge proposal put forward.
00:35:50.460 And over the last few years, that has been written into specific proposals,
00:35:55.620 all leading up to this big United Nations summit that's coming up in September,
00:36:01.000 at the end of the month, called Summit of the Future.
00:36:06.020 Okay?
00:36:06.780 Summit of the Future has three international agreements.
00:36:09.780 So, think about a lot of people who are listening to this probably have heard of the Paris Climate Agreement,
00:36:14.800 things like that.
00:36:15.800 Similar kind of thing.
00:36:17.120 Big international agreement.
00:36:18.560 All member states of the United Nations are expected to sign it and to adhere to it.
00:36:23.040 There are three international agreements that are going to be brought forward at this big meeting
00:36:27.020 that they've been working on for years.
00:36:28.320 One is called Pact for the Future.
00:36:32.500 And Pact for the Future is probably, at least in the short term, the most problematic one.
00:36:39.800 There are a lot of crazy things that are in it.
00:36:42.820 The most important thing is something called, well, it's been called a couple different things,
00:36:49.040 but emergency platform is the most dangerous thing that's in it.
00:36:52.920 The emergency platform emerged out of that Our Common Agenda proposal.
00:36:58.240 Essentially, what the Secretary General wanted, and it looks like they're going to try to give it to him,
00:37:03.820 is the ability to declare unilaterally a global emergency in the future.
00:37:12.040 And it doesn't really explain what a global emergency is.
00:37:15.660 He gets to decide that in consultation with his experts and stakeholders, they say.
00:37:20.980 And then he gets to have these crazy powers to address this global emergency wherever it is
00:37:29.440 and to issue penalties to people who are not adhering to the plan that he wants to.
00:37:35.800 People, individuals, private citizens?
00:37:37.220 Well, I think it's countries, probably, or governments, but who knows?
00:37:43.360 It's pretty vague, the wording of it.
00:37:45.840 And that he would be able to, these emergencies that he would get to declare
00:37:51.620 would be for a finite period of time, say 90 days or something like that,
00:37:56.980 but that he would have the unilateral authority.
00:37:58.840 15 days to slow the spread?
00:38:00.820 Right, yeah.
00:38:01.520 We've heard this before.
00:38:02.540 We've heard that.
00:38:03.100 Finite, sure, sure.
00:38:03.980 Very similar to that, he has the authority to unilaterally renew this period of time
00:38:10.680 over and over and over again, forever.
00:38:12.820 I could never have predicted that.
00:38:14.200 Right.
00:38:14.880 So it doesn't matter that it's for a finite period of time if you get to renew it, obviously.
00:38:19.720 Yeah.
00:38:20.180 So this emergency platform is in this pact for the future.
00:38:25.000 That the United States, as far as we could tell, based on statements made from the U.N. ambassadors,
00:38:32.540 American ambassadors to the U.N., is going to sign this, is going to agree to it.
00:38:37.900 There are other crazy things in it, too.
00:38:40.000 It's not just that.
00:38:41.840 There's a promise to create universal access to abortion without any description,
00:38:50.080 any limitations, as far as I can tell, as to what that means.
00:38:53.240 Which I don't, yeah, I don't understand.
00:38:55.380 I'm not understanding how they have the power to do this.
00:38:58.520 Like, if Texas, for example, or Arkansas or Florida, they have a heartbeat bill protecting
00:39:05.420 babies, like, how can the U.N. come in and say, nope, you can't do that?
00:39:09.260 Yeah, I mean, realistically, the U.N. could issue some sort of penalty or something on
00:39:16.040 its own, but how could they actually get the United States to enforce it on Texas or something
00:39:22.260 like that?
00:39:22.640 They probably couldn't.
00:39:24.240 The idea-
00:39:25.180 Unless they had someone to comply.
00:39:27.260 Right.
00:39:27.540 And we've already seen the weaponization of the DOJ under Biden.
00:39:31.340 And Kamala, not that she needs, like, you know, a pretext for doing something like that,
00:39:37.140 but she could say, oh, this is from the U.N., sorry.
00:39:41.980 Like, we're going to send our Department of Justice and the full force of the intelligence
00:39:46.340 community to your state and the military.
00:39:48.580 Exactly.
00:39:49.200 And you're going to comply with us.
00:39:51.880 And if we don't think that she would do that, then you should take a look at Kamala Harris'
00:39:54.980 record.
00:39:55.960 Right.
00:39:56.220 Well, and you would never even propose anything if you're the United Nations
00:40:00.740 to go to the final stages of being offered up to member states without making sure that
00:40:07.380 the United States is going to agree to it in the first place, because if the United States
00:40:13.000 says no, it's dead anyway.
00:40:15.000 And so the United States has so much power.
00:40:17.680 They have the most power in the United Nations by far.
00:40:19.760 They have unilateral veto authority on a whole bunch of different things.
00:40:23.000 They give the most money to the United Nations.
00:40:25.860 Nobody does anything at the United Nations without asking America first.
00:40:29.400 Sometimes they do it knowing the United States is going to say no anyway, and they just want
00:40:33.600 to do it.
00:40:34.340 But in this case, they did it because the United States agreed to these terms.
00:40:39.660 So the leadership of the United States wants this to happen.
00:40:43.040 They're OK with it.
00:40:44.540 And this just gives the federal government more authority to enact these kinds of things.
00:40:50.460 It's easier to go out there and say, look, we we've signed this international agreement
00:40:55.340 saying we're going to do this like we have to adhere to our international agreements.
00:40:59.380 What about, you know, norms and the global order and all this stuff that they're always
00:41:02.960 talking about?
00:41:04.060 We have to keep our promises.
00:41:05.700 You know, that was the same kind of stuff they did with the Paris Climate Agreement.
00:41:08.600 And that's exactly what they're going to do here with this.
00:41:11.560 So the emergency platform, universal access to abortion, all kinds of crazy statements about
00:41:17.500 fixing inequalities and structural inequalities between classes and groups.
00:41:22.720 It says eliminate it in their segment on declaration on future generations.
00:41:28.060 It's almost like declaration on future generations.
00:41:31.100 There's such like a new age mystical part of all of this, too.
00:41:34.800 It's almost like an incantation that they're conjuring up.
00:41:37.280 Eliminate all forms of persistent historical and structural inequalities.
00:41:41.840 These people need to read a Thomas Sowell book.
00:41:44.180 You cannot eliminate inequality outside of a police state.
00:41:48.560 You cannot.
00:41:50.060 If two siblings from the same family who were raised the same way, with the same resources,
00:41:54.800 with the same parents end up in two different places, sometimes two very disparate places,
00:42:01.860 then, of course, two individuals from different countries with different backgrounds,
00:42:06.640 with different innate capabilities are going to end up in different places.
00:42:10.900 Inequality is a fact of life.
00:42:13.000 That doesn't mean injustice, actual injustice should persist.
00:42:17.680 But inequality, even in the most just societies, will always be there.
00:42:22.380 The elimination of inequality will always mean communism in some form or collectivism in some form.
00:42:30.000 Yeah, well, it has to.
00:42:31.580 I would argue that inequality is actually the sign of a moral society because we don't all deserve the same things.
00:42:39.720 I mean, that's what merit means.
00:42:41.940 Some people deserve more than other people.
00:42:44.780 Now, some people have inequalities that are unjust.
00:42:47.900 That has happened, obviously, and we shouldn't have that.
00:42:50.980 That's why we want equal treatment under the law.
00:42:53.260 There's inequality of outcome, which, as you said, is a sign of a just and fair society.
00:42:58.740 And then there's inequality of process, which we do count as injustice.
00:43:05.000 We believe that everyone should be seen the same under the eyes of the law.
00:43:08.180 Everyone has an entitlement to due process.
00:43:11.140 Everyone is entitled to the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:43:14.780 That's part of why we believe that human beings inside the womb are entitled to those rights, too,
00:43:19.380 because we should all have – we all have equal worth and deserve equal justice in that sense.
00:43:25.120 But the left, they say that justice means equal outcomes.
00:43:30.600 And that's just not true.
00:43:31.400 That's not true biblically.
00:43:32.620 It's not true historically.
00:43:34.260 It's not even true logically.
00:43:35.620 It's not possible either without killing a bunch of people and ending up with communist societies.
00:43:40.460 Hello?
00:43:40.960 Right.
00:43:41.480 Mao?
00:43:42.340 Yep.
00:43:42.620 Pol Pot?
00:43:43.340 Like, we've seen it over and over again.
00:43:45.140 That's exactly right.
00:43:46.060 You – wherever they've actually tried to take this to its logical end, you end up with tens of millions of people dead.
00:43:51.500 Dead.
00:43:51.940 That's what always happens.
00:43:52.920 And that's in this agreement.
00:43:55.180 So, the Declaration on Future Generations, as you pointed out, that's a separate agreement out of the three.
00:44:01.360 The third one is Global Digital Compact.
00:44:04.540 Okay?
00:44:04.820 So, the Global Digital Compact is something that was also part of the – our common agenda.
00:44:10.900 It's focused mainly on regulating technology, especially on the internet.
00:44:18.200 Artificial intelligence is a big part of it.
00:44:20.020 We want to make sure that there's a global governance of artificial intelligence.
00:44:24.920 We want to make sure that AI is being designed fairly and equitably and with social justice in mind and all of that stuff.
00:44:33.320 And obviously, AI can be really bad and dangerous, and there are a lot of problems with it.
00:44:37.860 I just don't trust the United Nations to be the ones that's regulating it.
00:44:41.220 In addition to that, there's a bunch of policies in there about dealing with misinformation and disinformation on social media, on the internet generally.
00:44:53.080 How are they going to combat this?
00:44:55.140 We need to create standards that everyone has to adhere to across countries with the idea in mind that, you know, you can't have Elon Musk running around allowing people to say whatever they want.
00:45:06.560 I bet they hate Elon Musk.
00:45:08.280 Oh, they do hate Elon Musk.
00:45:09.580 In fact, the European Union just recently threatened Elon Musk and told him that if he didn't start regulating speech on his platform in a more expansive way, that there were going to be penalties issued to him.
00:45:25.720 They might ban it in the European Union.
00:45:28.140 There were some columnists that were calling for him to be jailed as a result of this.
00:45:33.580 So there's no question about it.
00:45:35.900 That's the goal.
00:45:37.360 And some of the stuff that they talk about relating misinformation is just so incredible.
00:45:42.740 For example, one of the things they want to do is they want to strengthen independent and public media and supporting journalists and media workers through the United Nations.
00:45:53.440 So UN-funded journalists, media outlets, media workers at other outlets.
00:45:59.940 Obviously, this is just propaganda is what they're talking about here.
00:46:03.080 Another quote from it is, provide, promote, and facilitate access to and dissemination of independent, fact-based, timely, targeted, clear, accessible, multilingual, and science-based information to counter mis- and disinformation.
00:46:17.660 So now we're talking about creating a fact-checking organization at the United Nations.
00:46:21.780 Again, these are the same people who, during COVID, WHO, completely mishandled it, trafficked misinformation, helped China or allowed China to cover up what was going on with COVID.
00:46:34.760 Then another one, calling on digital technology companies and developers to continue to develop solutions and publicly communicate actions to counter potential harms, including hate speech and discrimination from AI-enabled content that's designed.
00:46:49.680 So, again, let's make sure that AI is being designed so that it's not being used for hate speech and misinformation and disinformation.
00:46:58.900 And all of that, of course, is code words for whatever they want it to be, right?
00:47:03.780 I mean, their concept of hate speech is like the show.
00:47:07.540 Yeah, right.
00:47:07.680 Like, you know, they just don't want anything that disagrees with their points of view.
00:47:12.280 Totally.
00:47:12.680 So let's make sure there's a global governance body to regulate speech, misinformation, disinformation, what you say on social media companies, what AI can be used for, et cetera.
00:47:21.980 Yeah.
00:47:22.140 And we won't, we'll have a much better world.
00:47:25.260 And this is especially important with AI because AI isn't just used on the internet generally.
00:47:30.240 It's being embedded in all of these different companies like banks and corporations, insurance companies, et cetera.
00:47:36.940 Yeah.
00:47:37.300 They use AI all the time.
00:47:38.980 Well, if AI is designed with these woke ideas built into it and then a bank uses AI, then what does that mean for people's access to loans and that kind of thing?
00:47:49.780 So this is all very, very bad and we should be fighting against it.
00:47:54.500 And instead, most people aren't even talking about it.
00:47:56.580 Right.
00:47:57.200 Never mind fighting against it.
00:47:58.900 And the United States is about to sign us all up for it saying, yeah, we're 100% behind this.
00:48:03.900 How do you, what do you mean that we're about to sign up for it?
00:48:06.740 Well, the United States will formally sign this agreement when it comes up in a couple of weeks.
00:48:13.120 Okay.
00:48:13.740 And because it's, I mean, because it's being run by Joe Biden and Joe Biden is ideologically aligned
00:48:18.940 or he just doesn't, it's probably not really doing anything.
00:48:22.860 Yeah.
00:48:23.180 Well, what we've, what we've been looking at is statements from the Biden administration's ambassadors
00:48:29.120 to the United Nations saying they like a lot of the stuff that's in this and they're good with it.
00:48:33.920 And they, they haven't really been drafting it so much, but they seem to be, they're, they're
00:48:38.580 totally fine with it.
00:48:39.420 It's just so funny as we're talking about all of this and all this huge global apparatus
00:48:43.800 that progressives have to force their ideas on the world.
00:48:50.480 And yet we hear that the biggest threat is Christian conservatives, Christian, Christian
00:48:57.440 nationalism, like taking, I'm like every single global and national institution is completely
00:49:04.480 dominated by progressivism.
00:49:06.420 And like, we're accused of just wanting power and Handmaid's Tale and empire and Christo-fascism
00:49:12.480 and all this stuff.
00:49:13.060 I'm like, what institutional power do conservative Christians even have anywhere?
00:49:18.220 Are we the ones that are literally using the power of the state to try to rob you of any
00:49:24.940 wealth you have built until you comply with what we believe in?
00:49:28.500 Like truly the left is building this global theocracy.
00:49:32.780 Like if you even want to, you know, their God, which I think is like the God of self and
00:49:37.560 they are forcing you to bow down to their idols and they have the audacity to project
00:49:41.860 that onto like the Christian conservative mom.
00:49:45.360 Who's just like, I don't like abortion.
00:49:47.240 Oh, you're a fascist.
00:49:48.740 They have to, because they have to, there has to be a, there has to be someone to blame when
00:49:53.580 things don't go the way that they should be going.
00:49:55.680 When I first started out, uh, in public policy, my very first job was working for the Rhode
00:50:01.880 Island Republican party, which is about the most pointless group of people that you could
00:50:06.780 ever imagine.
00:50:08.140 They mean well, Rhode Island Republicans are probably listening to this.
00:50:11.640 They mean well, maybe someone is, I don't know.
00:50:13.900 They mean well, but the big, the craziest part was the Republicans in the media, the Republicans,
00:50:20.060 uh, you know, state, local media, the Democrat party, they were constantly blaming Republicans.
00:50:25.860 Anytime anything went wrong, they stopped us.
00:50:28.380 They did this, they did that.
00:50:29.340 When I was there, the, uh, the state house there had about a hundred or so seats in it.
00:50:36.740 Four of them were Republicans.
00:50:38.580 Wow.
00:50:39.220 The rest were Democrats and maybe a handful of independents or something.
00:50:43.140 They had no power, but they were still blamed on a daily basis anytime anything went wrong.
00:50:48.280 Yeah.
00:50:48.600 And so it's, that's, you have to do that.
00:50:51.640 That is the sign of an authoritarian regime.
00:50:53.980 You must have a scapegoat and every authoritarian regime that has ever existed has taken a tiny
00:51:00.020 minority of the, of society and said, whether it's the Jews and fascist Germany under the
00:51:05.480 Nazis or in China, where they had all kinds of different minority groups, including a lot
00:51:09.780 of educated people and, and the cultural revolution and stuff that they had there or Cambodia, where
00:51:14.660 you had disabled people and things like that, that they were mass murdering.
00:51:17.740 There's always some group of people who you have to blame and say, well, if we just didn't
00:51:22.560 have to take care of all these disabled people, or if the Jews just weren't the ones running
00:51:26.000 the world or whatever the conspiracy theory of the day is for them, that helps them.
00:51:30.820 Uh, you have to have it.
00:51:32.280 Otherwise, if things aren't going well, it's on you, you're the one in charge.
00:51:36.720 And so you must have this.
00:51:38.420 And that's exactly, that's no different today than it was 50 years ago, a hundred years ago,
00:51:42.880 a thousand years ago.
00:51:43.780 Yeah.
00:51:44.280 Yeah.
00:51:44.780 Yeah.
00:51:45.280 Yeah.
00:51:45.780 Yeah.
00:51:46.280 Yeah.
00:51:46.780 Yeah.
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00:52:34.320 So is there anything that we can do in addition to voting against Kamala Harris in November?
00:52:59.440 Is there anything the average American that's listening to this can do?
00:53:03.380 Yeah.
00:53:03.920 I mean, I think earlier we talked about it a little bit.
00:53:08.700 Why is it that Target is not as woke this year as they were like three years ago?
00:53:13.340 There's a reason for that.
00:53:14.520 It's because the more people learn about these things, so much of the stuff is being done
00:53:18.380 in darkness and people don't realize what's happening.
00:53:22.000 And then they go to the store and they just see these things and it doesn't make sense
00:53:25.140 to them.
00:53:25.560 They don't understand why it's occurring.
00:53:27.880 The more that people know, it really does matter.
00:53:31.200 The more they push back against it, the more that they complain.
00:53:34.500 People underestimate that.
00:53:35.660 A lot of people think, I'm just one person, so what can I do?
00:53:39.720 What does it really matter?
00:53:40.800 I'm not in media or whatever.
00:53:42.020 I don't have a podcast.
00:53:43.600 What am I going to do?
00:53:44.500 These companies really do care when they get even a small amount of letters or emails
00:53:52.100 complaining about things because they're not used to getting any.
00:53:55.220 So just a small number of things really does make a huge difference because in their minds,
00:54:00.100 if they're getting 20 angry emails one day and they normally get one, that's like, oh
00:54:05.940 my God, there's a crisis.
00:54:07.220 Something's really bad here.
00:54:08.720 They see that as a sign of a much larger pushback.
00:54:11.580 And so people can take the initiative and at least slow things down.
00:54:15.520 They can't totally stop it without voting for the right people, but they can at least
00:54:20.900 make these companies think twice before they go all in on this stuff.
00:54:25.500 Yeah.
00:54:26.040 And hopefully there is generational change.
00:54:30.360 We would have thought that we could have never overcome the abortion lobby in the United
00:54:34.680 States to get to a point where we're overturning Roe v. Wade.
00:54:38.220 I mean, for 49 years, people thought that that's impossible.
00:54:41.840 And then all of a sudden it happened because of some legislators in Mississippi that listened
00:54:46.400 to their voters and decided to pass a law that eventually made its way to the Supreme Court
00:54:50.600 that was filled with nominees by presidents who were voted for by pro-life Americans since
00:54:57.540 the 1990s or even 1980s.
00:54:59.980 I don't remember when Clarence Thomas took his seat.
00:55:02.540 But all of that matters and it matters over time.
00:55:07.500 And as you said, I think the most encouraging part of this, but also just like it shows what
00:55:13.340 a precarious position that we're in, is the muscle that America still has and how other
00:55:19.260 countries do defer to us.
00:55:20.700 Even if they talk a big game about not liking America and all of that stuff, at the end of
00:55:24.980 the day, America has a lot of power.
00:55:27.300 I want to vote for someone that's willing to flex our muscles on behalf of not just our
00:55:32.840 citizens, but all the people that are affected by this kind of just like anarcho-poverty tyranny.
00:55:40.280 I don't even know.
00:55:41.860 It's like such, it's so hard to even describe exactly what it is.
00:55:45.360 Yeah, what I love to tell people is, you know, if you were living in like the late 1940s and
00:55:54.420 you were a limited government, conservative American, I think a lot of people today, they
00:56:00.340 think back to that time and they think, well, America was much more conservative then.
00:56:03.500 And in a lot of ways it was.
00:56:04.680 But if you were living in that time and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, one of the most socialistic,
00:56:10.820 progressive presidents that in history had just been elected for the fourth time in a
00:56:16.200 row and you would just live through two world wars where millions of people were dying all
00:56:22.600 around you, friends, family members, you still have inadequate healthcare.
00:56:27.400 You know, you have people, massive amounts of poverty and underdevelopment and all of that
00:56:33.020 stuff. The constitution was just being railroaded at every turn. When Franklin Roosevelt didn't get
00:56:38.460 what he wanted, he threatened to pack the Supreme Court and they elected him anyway, multiple times.
00:56:43.380 You had all kinds of problems with segregation and all of this stuff. You saw, you still had
00:56:50.360 China out there in the world doing horrible things with Mao and all of that going into the
00:56:56.640 fifties and that sort of thing. If you were living in the forties and the fifties and you were
00:57:00.280 looking at the rise of the Soviet union development of nuclear weapons, the cold war, all of that.
00:57:04.500 And then the sixties and seventies were kind of crazy too.
00:57:06.600 Yeah. You wouldn't have thought, I think things are going to turn out pretty well. Like, you know,
00:57:11.100 you just wouldn't have thought that. And it took a long time. Republicans did not run Congress
00:57:16.300 for like 40 or 50 years in a row. People don't realize that. That's why in the 1990s,
00:57:22.220 they talk about Newt Gingrich and the contract for America and all that. That's because Republicans
00:57:26.280 had never won in 50 years. So if you were living in that moment in time, you would think things
00:57:32.200 are very dark and they're getting worse, but eventually they turned around because people
00:57:36.460 kept fighting. And that is the key. You have to keep fighting. And it's okay to think maybe
00:57:41.960 in the next 10 years, things are not going to be spectacular. The left for a long time was
00:57:47.360 not the favored majority in society. And they had to imagine what they wanted the world to look
00:57:53.840 like 20, 30, 40 years into the future. And we have to start thinking like that too. It's okay
00:57:59.840 to think that way. It can be depressing. I get it, but that's how you change society. Long-term
00:58:05.720 views. You continue to fight. You never give up and you have faith that in the end, the good will
00:58:10.520 win out over the evil. Yeah. And bringing it to the light like you do is so important. Gosh,
00:58:16.420 as you were talking, I was thinking, and you know, Ronald Reagan didn't get everything right,
00:58:20.640 but without Ronald Reagan, the world would look very, very different than it does today. The
00:58:26.980 Republican party would look different. He really reinvigorated not only the GOP, but really the
00:58:32.580 United States and Western civilization through his peace through strength policies. And yeah,
00:58:39.300 that is something to look at and to think about and for us to vote to try to reenact here.
00:58:46.800 Thank you so much for what you do. Just bringing the darkness into light. As you said, that's where
00:58:51.820 they thrive like mold. And so we got to expose it. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Where
00:58:59.060 can people follow you and buy your books? Cause you've got a new book coming out with Glenn soon.
00:59:03.600 Yep. They can follow me on social media at Justin T. Haskins or go to heartland.org. You can see what
00:59:09.960 we're doing at the Heartland Institute where I work. Glenn and I have a new book coming out October 22nd.
00:59:15.300 So if you're interested, please pre-order. It's called Propaganda Wars. And the idea behind the
00:59:20.760 book is not only to shine light on where propaganda is coming from, where are these large propaganda
00:59:27.460 campaigns at the World Economic Forum and these other institutions, who are these people who are
00:59:31.480 promoting this? Why are they promoting it? How do they do it? Why are they so successful? Really
00:59:36.080 shining a light on all of that, especially with the election in mind and the threats that might come
00:59:41.760 about in this election and in future elections. There's a ton of great stuff in there about that.
00:59:46.800 But we also want to give people the tools they need to figure out what is true and what isn't true.
00:59:52.480 So there's a step-by-step guide in there that allows you to actually run news stories through
00:59:57.540 this, follow these steps, and it will help you figure out, okay, is this propaganda or is this
01:00:02.200 something that I can actually trust? And right in time for the election, probably the biggest propaganda
01:00:07.060 event in history, which might be the case. I mean, God knows this last presidential debate
01:00:14.640 that we just had was full of propaganda and just outright lies. If the election is really close,
01:00:21.140 we know that there might be some kind of election crisis. There's talk of deepfake election crises
01:00:27.100 and things like that. So this book is preparing you for that reality. So people can pre-order it,
01:00:33.500 Propaganda Wars, Glenn Beck and Justin Haskins on amazon.com and wherever you get your books.
01:00:39.580 Thanks so much, Justin.
01:00:40.640 Thanks, Ellie.