Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1070 ｜ Kamala Is Lying About Miscarriages for Votes

00:00:00.000 Amber Thurman tragically died after a failed abortion, but now Democrats, the media, and activists are trying to blame Georgia's pro-life law and Donald Trump for her death.

00:00:14.340 While we are fact-checking this propaganda on today's episode of Relatable, we are also responding to a recent comment that the Pope made about the election.

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00:00:44.040 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:45.760 Happy Thursday.

00:00:46.760 Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.

00:00:49.280 We've got a ton to get to today, so I'm going to get right into it after I just point out this super cute sweatshirt that I'm wearing.

00:00:55.800 This is my first time wearing my Jesus Wins merch, and I love it.

00:01:00.040 It's just a reminder for us, not only during this election season, but forever, that Jesus wins in the end.

00:01:06.280 And so we operate as people with hope, knowing that one day there will be no more corruption.

00:01:13.040 There will be no more cowardice.

00:01:15.900 There will be no more sin, no more sorrow, no more partisanship, no more disagreements, that Jesus is going to win.

00:01:22.280 He is going to do away with evil forever and ever, and he will rule in perfect peace.

00:01:28.240 So whenever we are looking at the chaos and the evil that goes on in this world, and we are tempted to feel like God is doing nothing, remember, he's never doing nothing.

00:01:38.940 His eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch.

00:01:44.560 I was reading Psalm 49 this morning, and it talks about not worrying when you see an evil person flourishing, becoming wealthy, becoming successful,

00:02:00.400 seeming like everything is falling into place for them because that person is going to die just like everyone else.

00:02:07.320 And in the end, all of the wealth and the fame that they've accumulated will come to nothing.

00:02:12.500 We will all give an account to God.

00:02:15.740 Psalm 37 has the same spirit that, do not be envious of wrongdoers or evildoers, for they will soon fade like the grass and wither like the green herb.

00:02:29.800 And Jesus is coming back, and he is going to avenge his people.

00:02:34.820 He is going to do away with wickedness forever and ever.

00:02:39.140 So we can trust that his wrath is kindling, that he has the day, the hour of his return already planned out, and he has since before time began.

00:02:51.740 So our responsibility is to trust, to trust and obey, to do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God, knowing that he wins in the end.

00:03:03.300 And yet, Jesus winning is not an excuse for our apathy or our disengagement.

00:03:10.520 As we've talked about several times, Jeremiah 29, most people know Jeremiah 29, 11,

00:03:16.260 for I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you.

00:03:21.780 That's a beautiful verse when we're looking at it in context.

00:03:24.860 But if you look at the entirety of that chapter, God is speaking to Israelites in captivity, in exile, in Babylon.

00:03:34.880 And one of the commands that he gives them is to seek the welfare of the city that I have placed you in,

00:03:42.280 for in its welfare you will find your welfare.

00:03:46.020 Well, we're not ancient Israel, but we as Christians are exiles in this world, in this life.

00:03:53.700 Our citizenship is in heaven.

00:03:57.520 And if Israel was called to seek the welfare of the place that God had providentially placed them in the Old Testament,

00:04:05.700 it would seem that the same principles would apply to us today.

00:04:09.920 Because we've been placed here in this temporal, physical context, in the here, in the now,

00:04:15.060 in this tiny spot of eternity, on this tiny speck of the planet,

00:04:20.840 by a God who does nothing arbitrarily or accidentally.

00:04:25.880 He does everything with purpose.

00:04:27.980 He does everything according to his perfect will, according to providence.

00:04:32.160 And we were placed here to give him glory, to share the gospel, to do good for those around us.

00:04:40.440 And one of the ways, one of the ways that we can do good for the neighbors that we are commanded to love

00:04:47.400 is to care about politics.

00:04:50.940 What do we always say?

00:04:52.220 Politics matter because policy matters because people matter.

00:04:55.320 People are made in the image of God.

00:04:56.720 They matter to God.

00:04:58.020 Therefore, they matter to us.

00:04:59.340 And we still live in a country in which we can exercise our right, our right to vote.

00:05:06.840 Who we vote for actually matters.

00:05:09.720 The policies that they advocate for, that they push for, have a real effect on people's lives.

00:05:16.480 The most tangible example I can think of of this is, of course, abortion.

00:05:21.800 We are looking at policy that can either spare the lives of these babies in the womb

00:05:29.900 or make it as easy as possible for their innocent lives to be snuffed out.

00:05:36.820 And you'll see a lot over the next few months, as we're about to talk about,

00:05:42.300 when it comes to the discourse around abortion,

00:05:45.580 you'll see a lot of arguments trying to persuade you via what I call toxic empathy

00:05:54.460 into believing that the pro-choice, which is functionally a pro-abortion position,

00:06:00.400 is the compassionate one.

00:06:03.020 And here's the formula that you'll see.

00:06:05.440 You've seen it several times, especially over the past few years,

00:06:08.360 especially post-Dobbs' decision, which overturned Roe v. Wade.

00:06:13.180 The media will hoist up a particular victim.

00:06:17.260 It will be a woman who says that she needed an abortion for whatever reason.

00:06:23.380 Because she was in a difficult financial situation.

00:06:26.820 She was in an abusive relationship.

00:06:29.760 She just had a child.

00:06:32.760 She just doesn't want a baby right now.

00:06:36.720 Or maybe the baby got a life-limiting diagnosis.

00:06:41.000 And they will bid you to feel what this woman feels.

00:06:47.340 And they will then tell a story that is meant to prove to you

00:06:52.980 that the pro-life laws that have been put in place in several Republican-led states

00:06:58.560 since the Dobbs' decision, that they are draconian, that they are cruel,

00:07:04.480 that they are harming this woman who is just trying to exercise her

00:07:08.760 quote-unquote bodily autonomy, is just trying to do what's best for her

00:07:13.320 or do what's best for her children or her life, for her future, or her safety.

00:07:21.180 And they will make you believe that these pro-life laws have just gone too far.

00:07:28.980 That these pro-life laws are limiting miscarriage care.

00:07:33.380 That they're causing women to die.

00:07:35.380 That they're not pro-life laws at all.

00:07:37.000 That they're just laws that are controlling women's bodies,

00:07:39.660 damaging women's health care.

00:07:41.760 And as they tell you these stories to get you to only put yourself

00:07:46.420 in the shoes of the woman who is seeking an abortion,

00:07:50.700 they are purposely ignoring the other person on the side,

00:07:56.000 on the other side of this moral equation.

00:07:58.440 And that, of course, is the baby in the womb.

00:08:02.820 That, of course, is the person who is always the victim of every single abortion.

00:08:09.020 And that is that image bearer, that helpless image bearer of God inside the womb.

00:08:16.420 The reason why I call this toxic empathy

00:08:20.000 is because they are not only bidding you to have compassion for the woman.

00:08:26.460 They are bidding you to feel what she feels

00:08:29.200 so that you affirm the sinful, damaging, deadly choice of abortion.

00:08:35.120 And to ignore the feelings, the needs, the rights, the well-being,

00:08:41.120 the very existence of the baby who is dying,

00:08:45.700 who is being murdered in an abortion procedure.

00:08:50.000 See, Christians are not called to empathy, actually.

00:08:55.160 Empathy can be good or bad.

00:08:57.200 You put yourself in someone's shoes, you feel how they feel.

00:08:59.820 That might motivate you to do good.

00:09:02.020 That might motivate you to share with them,

00:09:04.260 to be generous with them, to love them,

00:09:06.380 to help them, to meet their needs.

00:09:08.380 Or you might feel what they feel so much

00:09:11.580 that you are completely blinded to reality and blinded to morality.

00:09:16.940 Empathy can only get you so far.

00:09:19.160 It can lead you to actually cruelty in supporting something like abortion.

00:09:23.360 Or maybe it could lead you to love and understanding.

00:09:27.200 But love and understanding and compassion and service and generosity,

00:09:30.900 those are the virtues that we're reaching toward as Christians,

00:09:34.740 not empathy as an end.

00:09:37.960 Christians are called to a better approach,

00:09:41.360 the truth in love approach.

00:09:43.680 Because love and empathy are not the same things.

00:09:46.820 Empathy feels.

00:09:48.340 Love is not a feeling.

00:09:50.960 It does.

00:09:51.940 It sacrifices.

00:09:53.980 And God is love.

00:09:55.580 1 John 4, 8, he defines it in 1 Corinthians 13.

00:09:59.000 And one of the ways that he defines it

00:10:01.340 is that love never rejoices in wrongdoing,

00:10:04.560 but rejoices with the truth.

00:10:08.280 See, empathy is not concerned with the truth.

00:10:10.220 Empathy is concerned with how someone feels,

00:10:11.900 which again can be okay.

00:10:13.920 But we cannot truly love someone

00:10:16.180 without first starting with the truth.

00:10:17.780 That's what the God who is love tells us.

00:10:21.020 So in every issue,

00:10:22.000 especially when it comes to this life and death issue of abortion,

00:10:25.640 we have to start there.

00:10:27.160 With what is true.

00:10:29.120 Not just how does this woman feel,

00:10:31.100 but what is true.

00:10:32.220 What is scientifically true about life inside the womb?

00:10:34.740 What is medically true about what an abortion is?

00:10:37.580 What is morally true about what is right and wrong

00:10:42.620 when it comes to the taking of innocent life?

00:10:44.540 And most importantly,

00:10:45.440 what is biblically true?

00:10:46.800 What does God have to say about life inside the womb?

00:10:50.240 What does God have to say about the intentional killing

00:10:52.660 of an innocent person?

00:10:53.840 That is the lens through which,

00:10:56.160 the truth in love lens through which we must look at every issue,

00:11:02.140 especially political issues,

00:11:04.020 especially this issue of abortion.

00:11:05.720 So that is our launching pad into this conversation

00:11:10.080 about this tragic story that you've seen circulating on social media

00:11:14.160 that the media,

00:11:15.800 Kamala Harris is using as a justification for voting for her

00:11:20.280 about this single mother,

00:11:23.220 Amber Thurman,

00:11:24.840 who tragically died after taking abortion pills

00:11:27.740 to kill her unborn twin babies.

00:11:30.440 So we'll get into all of that in just a second,

00:11:33.740 just a couple of things that I want to tell you

00:11:36.920 before we get into the story and the details of it.

00:11:41.360 Number one,

00:11:43.020 I have a book coming out called Toxic Empathy

00:11:45.740 and it's coming out October 15th.

00:11:49.200 And it is a guidebook for you all to have

00:11:52.820 these very difficult conversations,

00:11:55.480 especially in this election season.

00:11:57.240 Of course,

00:11:57.840 it's relevant beyond that.

00:11:59.440 It's particularly for Christian women.

00:12:02.700 We go through abortion,

00:12:05.260 gender,

00:12:06.660 sexuality and marriage,

00:12:07.940 immigration,

00:12:08.780 and then what's often referred to as social justice.

00:12:11.800 And we look at how progressives couch these issues,

00:12:15.220 how they make these issues look,

00:12:17.300 how they use toxic empathy to convince Christian women

00:12:20.300 that the progressive side of these issues

00:12:23.640 is the compassionate one,

00:12:26.140 is the righteous one.

00:12:27.840 And then we look at the other side.

00:12:29.200 Who is actually being harmed by the progressive position on these things?

00:12:34.020 And then we back up and ask the most important question,

00:12:36.980 but what is true?

00:12:38.140 What is good?

00:12:39.220 What is right?

00:12:41.240 And so this is going to equip you with all of the arguments,

00:12:44.900 with all of the information that you need

00:12:48.080 to be able to defend your position

00:12:50.600 on all of these very contentious issues

00:12:52.460 completely confidently,

00:12:53.460 completely confidently.

00:12:54.960 So this is an easy book to read.

00:12:56.720 It's a short book to read,

00:12:57.780 but it is jam packed

00:12:59.640 with the best logical and biblical arguments

00:13:04.400 that I know,

00:13:05.340 that I've read,

00:13:06.140 that I could come up with.

00:13:07.240 And this is so important for you to get

00:13:09.780 before the election.

00:13:11.320 Go ahead and pre-order it

00:13:12.420 so you get it

00:13:13.120 as soon as it comes out on October 15th.

00:13:15.820 You can just go to ToxicEmpathy.com,

00:13:19.580 ToxicEmpathy.com,

00:13:21.720 and then you can pre-order it there.

00:13:25.340 All right.

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00:14:37.880 This was originally published

00:14:40.140 by ProPublica

00:14:41.480 and here is a summary.

00:14:43.640 In 2022,

00:14:45.000 so that's also very important

00:14:46.480 to note right there.

00:14:47.820 In 2022,

00:14:49.300 why is this just coming out now?

00:14:51.080 Surely it's not only coming out now

00:14:53.680 as a prop for the election, right?

00:14:56.820 That would be a really sad way

00:14:58.540 to use the death of these babies

00:15:00.880 and this mother.

00:15:03.340 But a single mother in Georgia

00:15:05.060 was nine weeks pregnant with twins

00:15:07.000 when she decided to take abortion pills

00:15:09.520 that would end the lives

00:15:10.560 of her two babies.

00:15:12.200 She then became critically ill

00:15:13.880 hours after taking the second pill

00:15:16.080 and was rushed to the hospital.

00:15:17.960 The doctors failed to treat her appropriately

00:15:19.900 and she later died of sepsis.

00:15:22.480 Now,

00:15:22.960 the pro-abortion side

00:15:24.060 is blaming Georgia's abortion ban

00:15:26.080 for the doctor's unwillingness to act

00:15:29.460 and ultimately for her death.

00:15:33.880 So,

00:15:34.400 this woman,

00:15:35.140 Amber Thurman,

00:15:36.300 scheduled a DNC abortion

00:15:38.780 in North Carolina

00:15:40.200 where abortion was still,

00:15:42.820 that form of abortion

00:15:43.840 was still legal at that stage.

00:15:45.480 And about nine weeks along,

00:15:48.500 that can be a pretty typical form of abortion.

00:15:51.700 It stands for dilation and cuterage.

00:15:54.880 And I do think it's important

00:15:55.860 to just explain what's happening there,

00:15:58.500 what happens in that process.

00:15:59.600 This is not hyperbole.

00:16:01.160 You can even go to the Planned Parenthood website

00:16:03.420 and if you can kind of wade through

00:16:04.580 the euphemisms that they use,

00:16:06.980 like contents of pregnancy

00:16:08.320 or contents of conception

00:16:09.780 or products of conception,

00:16:11.380 terminating pregnancy,

00:16:12.280 you will see that they actually do explain

00:16:14.660 what happens in these kinds of abortions.

00:16:18.460 And if you've seen Unplanned,

00:16:21.560 you know exactly how this happens

00:16:23.320 and it's really sad.

00:16:24.440 So, just brace yourself.

00:16:26.060 But there's actually like a vacuum tube

00:16:28.280 that is placed in the cervix of the mother

00:16:30.800 into the uterus

00:16:32.180 to suck these living babies out of the womb.

00:16:36.000 Now, the hope is at that point

00:16:37.520 that those babies are already dead

00:16:39.140 because there's a variety of ways

00:16:41.800 that they try to starve

00:16:43.080 and poison the babies before the D and C,

00:16:46.280 but that is not always the case,

00:16:48.000 as Abby Johnson can tell you,

00:16:49.540 who is a former Planned Parenthood employee.

00:16:52.160 And so, literally with a vacuum,

00:16:54.880 these babies are sucked out.

00:16:57.000 And Abby Johnson has talked about

00:16:58.640 how calloused these doctors were

00:17:01.140 during these abortions,

00:17:02.760 that one of the doctors in the D and C

00:17:05.340 that she witnessed joked

00:17:07.420 as he was sucking out this living baby

00:17:10.920 out of the womb who was kicking

00:17:12.740 and moving its arm,

00:17:13.940 said, beam me up, Scotty,

00:17:15.440 and literally sucked the baby

00:17:17.300 out of the womb.

00:17:18.500 So, this is just a,

00:17:19.520 it's a disgusting, barbaric practice.

00:17:22.560 And so, that's what this woman was seeking

00:17:24.700 for her twin children.

00:17:27.080 But she got stuck in traffic,

00:17:29.200 she missed her appointment,

00:17:30.540 and so, the clinic in North Carolina

00:17:32.920 offered her these two abortion pills

00:17:35.900 that you take one after the other.

00:17:39.060 One actually kills the baby,

00:17:41.220 starves the baby,

00:17:42.320 and then the other makes your uterus contract.

00:17:45.100 And so, the babies,

00:17:46.740 in this case, plural,

00:17:48.400 are expelled from your uterus.

00:17:50.900 And so, from my understanding,

00:17:52.940 without even seeing her,

00:17:54.820 without even doing another ultrasound,

00:17:57.460 confirming how far along she was,

00:17:59.400 this Planned Parenthood just said,

00:18:01.940 yeah, here, take these abortion pills.

00:18:04.420 So, she drove home,

00:18:05.580 she took these abortion pills,

00:18:08.220 and this is approved, by the way,

00:18:10.060 by the FDA.

00:18:11.840 And at first, there was only cramping,

00:18:13.820 which is normal for this two-pill regimen.

00:18:17.300 But days after she took the second pill,

00:18:19.780 the pain increased,

00:18:20.960 and blood was pouring out of her.

00:18:23.860 She knew something was wrong.

00:18:25.600 And so, she went to the doctor where they found,

00:18:31.540 or the emergency room,

00:18:32.780 where they found that her white blood cell count

00:18:34.800 was really high.

00:18:36.200 Her blood pressure was really low.

00:18:39.120 They could tell that there were still baby remnants

00:18:42.520 in her uterus,

00:18:44.020 and that she had an infection.

00:18:47.280 And unfortunately, this happens far too often

00:18:49.740 in these situations.

00:18:51.200 And you'll remember,

00:18:52.340 it is the abortion lobby

00:18:53.740 that has fought tooth and nail

00:18:55.560 against every single Republican legislative attempt

00:18:59.840 to ensure that women are under a doctor's care

00:19:04.340 when they are going through an abortion.

00:19:06.600 So, the abortion lobby can pretend

00:19:09.060 like they are the ones that care about women.

00:19:11.180 They want to make it as easy as possible

00:19:13.600 for women to have an abortion.

00:19:15.320 Mail order, abortion pills,

00:19:17.920 that's something that they fought for.

00:19:19.940 They want it to be possible for women

00:19:22.000 to be able to get an abortion via a midwife

00:19:24.360 or a nurse.

00:19:24.860 It doesn't even have to be an MD.

00:19:27.200 They want it as easy as possible,

00:19:28.600 which, of course, is not good for women either.

00:19:33.600 ProPublica says that instead of performing

00:19:37.340 the ER doctors,

00:19:38.980 the newly criminalized procedure,

00:19:41.360 they're talking about a DNC,

00:19:42.760 they continue to gather information

00:19:44.200 and dispense medicine.

00:19:46.040 The summary shows.

00:19:47.360 And so, what ProPublica is trying to say there

00:19:50.500 is that the DNC was actually outlawed

00:19:54.760 by this Georgia pro-life law.

00:19:56.680 They're very careful not to lay any blame

00:19:58.740 on the doctors

00:19:59.440 because if they laid any blame

00:20:00.960 on the doctors or the hospital,

00:20:02.620 then they would lose their argument.

00:20:04.620 Their argument is that

00:20:05.800 this is the fault of Republicans,

00:20:07.280 this is the fault of Donald Trump,

00:20:08.760 this is the fault of pro-life laws,

00:20:11.560 and their argument is that

00:20:13.500 the hospital was restricted

00:20:15.120 from giving this woman a DNC

00:20:18.360 and taking the baby remnants out of her

00:20:22.280 to save her life.

00:20:24.240 But, of course, that's not true.

00:20:26.440 That's not what the Georgia law says,

00:20:27.860 and we'll get into that

00:20:28.720 a little bit more in a second.

00:20:30.100 But more about her story,

00:20:32.420 they waited and waited

00:20:33.740 to give her antibiotics,

00:20:35.460 and they finally gave her the antibiotics,

00:20:37.820 and then they decided,

00:20:39.720 okay, we're going to do the DNC,

00:20:41.980 and she died on the operating table,

00:20:44.340 and she leaves behind a six-year-old son.

00:20:47.100 The whole thing is tragic.

00:20:52.080 Three lives unnecessarily lost.

00:20:56.500 ProPublica says,

00:20:57.980 the Maternal Mortality Review Committee

00:21:00.000 concluded that there was a good chance

00:21:01.640 providing a DNC earlier

00:21:02.960 could have prevented Thurman's death.

00:21:04.800 Of course.

00:21:05.860 Like, that's the standard of care.

00:21:08.420 It is not clear from the records available

00:21:10.380 why doctors waited to provide a DNC to Thurman.

00:21:13.560 All right.

00:21:14.040 Then that kind of undermines

00:21:15.880 your entire case here, right?

00:21:17.680 It's not like the doctors were like,

00:21:19.020 well, this is illegal.

00:21:20.380 We don't know why.

00:21:21.560 It could have been

00:21:22.180 all kinds of justifications

00:21:24.320 they gave themselves for negligence.

00:21:27.200 But ProPublica,

00:21:28.860 or Publica,

00:21:30.260 I'm not sure which one it is,

00:21:31.680 writes that the lack of medical action

00:21:33.240 was due to the hospital

00:21:34.100 not having a policy guide

00:21:35.460 on how to interpret the state abortion ban,

00:21:37.520 which, again,

00:21:38.080 that's the hospital's fault.

00:21:39.860 That's the hospital's fault,

00:21:41.700 which they claim is difficult to interpret

00:21:43.460 due to vague and conflicting language.

00:21:46.360 Well, we'll verify that

00:21:47.640 in just a second.

00:21:49.800 The article also says

00:21:50.740 Republican officials across the country

00:21:52.140 have largely rejected calls

00:21:54.240 to provide guidance,

00:21:56.880 which, of course, isn't true.

00:21:58.000 So let's look at

00:21:58.980 what the act actually says

00:22:02.060 that they're referring to

00:22:03.120 that they are blaming

00:22:04.620 for Amanda Thurman's death.

00:22:06.300 But first,

00:22:07.320 I want to pause

00:22:08.380 and tell you about a couple things.

00:22:10.820 I want to remind you

00:22:12.400 that Share the Arrows

00:22:13.400 is happening

00:22:13.980 in a little over a week.

00:22:16.800 And as we're talking about,

00:22:18.300 there's a lot of death

00:22:19.200 and destruction

00:22:19.780 and sadness

00:22:20.400 and just a reason for dismay.

00:22:24.140 And I feel,

00:22:25.540 I don't know if you guys feel,

00:22:26.700 apparently you do,

00:22:27.520 because thousands of you

00:22:28.460 are going to be there,

00:22:29.540 but I'm sure the rest of you do too.

00:22:32.640 I just feel this craving

00:22:34.060 to be around like-minded people,

00:22:37.120 to link arms with you,

00:22:38.940 to look around and say,

00:22:40.620 okay, we're on the same page, right?

00:22:42.620 Like, you're with me.

00:22:43.700 You're with me.

00:22:44.440 You got my back.

00:22:45.340 I got your back.

00:22:46.680 Like, I need encouragement.

00:22:48.760 I need to be built up right now

00:22:52.100 with like-minded women.

00:22:54.080 And that's exactly why

00:22:56.020 I am hosting

00:22:58.240 this Share the Arrows conference.

00:23:00.440 And it's next Saturday.

00:23:02.280 It's in Plano, Texas.

00:23:03.640 We do still have seats left.

00:23:05.060 I mean, y'all have completely

00:23:06.620 defied our expectations

00:23:07.980 for the size of this event.

00:23:09.580 We keep on having to open

00:23:10.800 different segments of the sanctuary,

00:23:12.480 but we're so happy to do it.

00:23:14.120 Obviously, women are craving truth.

00:23:16.940 A lot of women's conferences,

00:23:18.540 not all, not all,

00:23:20.300 a lot of women's conferences

00:23:21.620 are just focused on feelings.

00:23:23.920 They're just focused on making women

00:23:25.560 feel better about themselves.

00:23:27.000 And we're told

00:23:28.440 in some kind of Christian ease

00:23:30.620 that you're beautiful

00:23:32.240 and perfect the way you are.

00:23:33.680 And the biggest problem

00:23:34.820 that you have is your low self-esteem.

00:23:36.700 This is not that conference.

00:23:38.820 This is a conference

00:23:39.620 for women who want truth.

00:23:41.280 This is a conference

00:23:42.000 for women who want clarity.

00:23:43.740 This is a conference

00:23:44.460 for women who want

00:23:45.400 to be filled with courage,

00:23:46.720 who want to be challenged

00:23:48.060 by God's word.

00:23:50.940 That's why I have

00:23:51.580 the speakers that I do.

00:23:52.720 I mean, it's got to be

00:23:53.560 like the best lineup ever.

00:23:55.160 Rosaria Butterfield,

00:23:56.200 Elisa Childers,

00:23:57.400 Candice Cameron-Bure,

00:23:58.480 Abby Halberstadt,

00:24:00.280 worship by Francesca Battistelli.

00:24:02.560 Like, I cannot wait

00:24:04.060 to stand with thousands of you

00:24:05.580 at this church

00:24:06.340 and sing

00:24:06.880 This Is My Father's World

00:24:08.200 together, y'all.

00:24:09.860 That's going to be so good.

00:24:11.120 Like, so good for the heart,

00:24:12.400 so good for the soul.

00:24:13.840 And so if you haven't

00:24:14.560 gotten your tickets yet,

00:24:15.800 go to sharethearrows.com.

00:24:17.860 Every seat in the house

00:24:18.960 is a great seat.

00:24:20.320 And so if you'll be sitting

00:24:21.580 in the balcony

00:24:22.140 if you're buying tickets now,

00:24:23.640 I probably will sit

00:24:25.040 in the balcony

00:24:25.540 for a lot of this

00:24:26.420 because I think

00:24:27.580 those are some of the best seats.

00:24:29.520 But also,

00:24:30.240 if you want floor seating,

00:24:31.300 preferred seating,

00:24:31.840 you can get your VIP ticket,

00:24:33.340 your all-access ticket.

00:24:34.920 Of course,

00:24:35.380 you can come backstage

00:24:36.140 if you're all-access

00:24:37.700 and you can get a breakfast

00:24:39.800 with Allie ticket.

00:24:40.960 All of those

00:24:41.580 are still available too.

00:24:43.300 But we do have

00:24:44.480 a limited capacity

00:24:45.560 in the sanctuary.

00:24:47.200 Like, at some point,

00:24:48.200 they're going to be like,

00:24:48.860 no, Allie,

00:24:49.540 we cannot keep doing this.

00:24:51.360 There's no more.

00:24:52.440 And so we don't have

00:24:53.860 that much space left.

00:24:54.840 I want you to get your ticket

00:24:56.000 if you haven't already.

00:24:57.480 Go to sharethearrows.com.

00:24:59.840 You can get your ticket.

00:25:00.840 I am so excited for this.

00:25:04.180 And please,

00:25:04.680 if you're coming

00:25:05.440 or if you're not coming,

00:25:06.700 please just pray for this event.

00:25:08.260 Like, our related bros out there

00:25:09.660 who are not coming

00:25:11.400 to this event,

00:25:12.680 maybe we'll have something

00:25:13.560 for you in the future,

00:25:14.660 but this is just for women.

00:25:17.180 All of you

00:25:18.040 who are attending or not,

00:25:19.700 please pray for this event.

00:25:21.300 I had a friend

00:25:21.940 who reminded me

00:25:22.880 that there are going

00:25:24.260 to be spiritual attacks

00:25:25.380 leading up to this event

00:25:26.480 and during this event.

00:25:27.320 And I'm someone

00:25:27.980 who I can get

00:25:29.300 so caught up

00:25:29.960 in just like the physical

00:25:31.280 and the logistical

00:25:32.420 and planning

00:25:33.340 and all of that

00:25:34.560 that I forget

00:25:36.260 that, oh yeah,

00:25:37.480 Satan hates this conference.

00:25:39.300 Like, Satan hates

00:25:40.580 women hearing truth.

00:25:41.920 He wants women

00:25:42.660 to take the bite

00:25:43.840 of the forbidden fruit.

00:25:45.960 He doesn't want women

00:25:47.740 to hear the gospel

00:25:49.540 and to be equipped.

00:25:50.740 He wants women

00:25:51.460 to keep questioning,

00:25:52.380 did God really say?

00:25:53.460 And so we need your prayers.

00:25:57.660 We need God's favor,

00:25:58.780 his protection,

00:25:59.520 and just pray

00:26:00.400 that God would be glorified.

00:26:02.400 Pray for all

00:26:02.860 the logistical stuff too,

00:26:04.560 but pray that God

00:26:05.340 would be glorified

00:26:06.120 through all of this.

00:26:06.940 And thank you so much

00:26:07.800 to those who have been praying.

00:26:09.880 I really appreciate it.

00:26:11.500 So anyway,

00:26:12.420 if you haven't gotten

00:26:13.080 your tickets yet

00:26:13.760 or your friends

00:26:14.240 haven't gotten

00:26:14.620 your tickets yet,

00:26:15.560 go to sharethearrows.com.

00:26:17.020 You can also see

00:26:17.640 all the FAQs on there

00:26:18.680 if you've got any questions.

00:26:20.300 All right.

00:26:21.300 Before we debunk

00:26:22.460 everything that we

00:26:23.320 just heard about

00:26:24.000 this tragic story

00:26:25.000 of Amber Thurman,

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00:27:43.840 So let's look at this law,

00:27:45.720 Georgia's Life Act.

00:27:47.120 The Georgia legislature

00:27:48.080 passed a fetal heartbeat law

00:27:49.720 known as the Life Act.

00:27:51.720 Governor Brian Kemp

00:27:52.720 signed it into law.

00:27:54.720 The Life Act

00:27:55.600 prohibits most abortions

00:27:57.020 once a physician

00:27:57.780 can detect

00:27:58.980 the heartbeat.

00:28:00.840 The law does provide

00:28:02.240 exceptions for abortion

00:28:03.800 in cases of medical emergencies,

00:28:06.120 medically futile pregnancies,

00:28:07.780 so like an ectopic pregnancy,

00:28:09.380 that's where the baby

00:28:10.720 would be growing,

00:28:12.080 for example,

00:28:12.580 in the fallopian tube.

00:28:13.920 That can be deadly

00:28:15.460 for the mother

00:28:16.200 and there's no fixing that.

00:28:17.880 The baby does

00:28:18.740 have to be removed.

00:28:20.800 And also,

00:28:21.800 it does provide

00:28:22.480 exceptions for pregnancies

00:28:24.240 that result

00:28:26.320 from rape

00:28:27.480 or incest.

00:28:29.880 And so I'm not saying

00:28:31.240 that you should agree

00:28:33.780 with all of those exceptions.

00:28:35.460 That's just

00:28:36.540 what the law says.

00:28:38.280 And also,

00:28:38.780 as many

00:28:39.300 OBGYNs

00:28:40.800 have testified

00:28:41.400 even before Congress,

00:28:43.160 when a woman's life

00:28:44.460 is in danger,

00:28:45.380 no matter what point

00:28:47.300 of pregnancy it is,

00:28:49.180 the option

00:28:50.080 to save

00:28:51.520 both

00:28:52.300 or to save

00:28:52.940 as many people

00:28:53.680 as possible

00:28:54.480 is to deliver

00:28:55.820 the child.

00:28:56.700 If the child

00:28:57.700 has to come out

00:28:58.520 anyway,

00:28:59.180 there is no reason

00:29:00.560 for the child

00:29:02.120 to have to die

00:29:03.000 first.

00:29:03.980 We hear a lot

00:29:04.780 justifications

00:29:05.600 for late-term abortion,

00:29:08.200 so like

00:29:08.800 third trimester

00:29:09.700 or post-viability,

00:29:11.300 like after

00:29:11.780 24-week abortions.

00:29:13.300 We hear Kamala Harris

00:29:14.780 even said this

00:29:15.280 on the debate stage.

00:29:16.040 No one is doing that

00:29:17.260 because, you know,

00:29:18.160 they want to.

00:29:19.120 All of a sudden,

00:29:19.580 they decided to.

00:29:20.840 Well, it does happen

00:29:22.360 actually thousands

00:29:23.420 and thousands of times

00:29:24.620 in the United States

00:29:25.660 every year.

00:29:27.840 But also,

00:29:28.960 if a woman's life

00:29:30.600 is at risk

00:29:31.400 after that,

00:29:32.800 there is no reason

00:29:33.500 to kill the child

00:29:34.620 before you deliver

00:29:35.440 the child.

00:29:35.880 You don't have to be

00:29:36.380 a doctor to figure

00:29:37.320 that out.

00:29:37.840 That's just logical.

00:29:38.760 Either way,

00:29:39.260 you're giving birth.

00:29:40.820 Are you going to give

00:29:41.720 birth to a dead baby?

00:29:42.760 Or a living baby?

00:29:44.440 If a woman's health

00:29:46.040 demands that she

00:29:46.820 no longer be pregnant,

00:29:48.000 and there are cases

00:29:48.880 like that,

00:29:49.740 you deliver the baby first.

00:29:51.500 And yes,

00:29:51.880 in some cases,

00:29:52.720 the baby will tragically die.

00:29:55.300 Especially when it's

00:29:57.040 pre-viability,

00:29:58.400 when we're talking

00:29:59.040 about those

00:29:59.620 really preemie babies,

00:30:01.000 like 18 weeks,

00:30:02.480 say for whatever reason,

00:30:04.300 the mother has,

00:30:06.340 I don't know,

00:30:07.160 say it's,

00:30:08.180 her water breaks

00:30:09.340 that early.

00:30:10.320 And there's no way

00:30:13.000 for this baby

00:30:13.540 to survive.

00:30:14.380 This mother is going

00:30:15.240 to die if the baby

00:30:16.040 is not removed.

00:30:16.600 You deliver that baby.

00:30:17.800 You give them

00:30:18.420 the most dignity possible.

00:30:20.140 You don't dismember

00:30:21.300 the baby first.

00:30:23.060 That's never right.

00:30:25.580 And so,

00:30:26.600 that,

00:30:27.240 I don't,

00:30:27.900 I just don't agree

00:30:28.680 with that.

00:30:29.180 You make every effort

00:30:30.740 to save both lives.

00:30:33.140 Yes,

00:30:33.400 the mother's life

00:30:34.000 absolutely matters,

00:30:35.400 but you make

00:30:36.640 every effort

00:30:37.680 to save both.

00:30:39.320 And in a case

00:30:40.160 like ectopic pregnancy

00:30:41.640 where the baby

00:30:43.260 cannot be saved

00:30:44.400 and the mother

00:30:44.940 has to be saved,

00:30:45.740 yes,

00:30:45.960 of course,

00:30:46.460 you save the mother

00:30:47.200 and you remove

00:30:48.000 the baby

00:30:48.820 from the fallopian tube.

00:30:50.580 So,

00:30:51.180 let's look at

00:30:52.420 what this

00:30:53.860 Life Act

00:30:54.660 actually says

00:30:55.600 and how it defines

00:30:56.560 abortion.

00:30:57.320 Does it actually

00:30:58.540 prevent

00:30:59.260 a DNC

00:31:00.260 if a woman

00:31:01.200 has a miscarriage

00:31:02.700 or if she had

00:31:04.000 an induced abortion

00:31:05.480 where the

00:31:06.940 dead baby

00:31:08.180 is still

00:31:08.860 inside her?

00:31:10.520 Here's what

00:31:11.180 the law means

00:31:11.940 and what the law

00:31:12.520 actually prohibits.

00:31:14.560 Abortion,

00:31:15.460 it defines it this way,

00:31:16.880 means the act

00:31:17.600 of using,

00:31:18.500 prescribing,

00:31:19.100 or administering

00:31:20.120 any instrument,

00:31:21.700 substance,

00:31:22.440 device,

00:31:22.980 or other means

00:31:24.100 with the purpose

00:31:24.720 to terminate

00:31:25.600 a pregnancy

00:31:26.500 with knowledge

00:31:27.520 that termination

00:31:28.500 will,

00:31:29.280 with reasonable

00:31:29.820 likelihood,

00:31:30.860 cause the death

00:31:31.700 of an unborn child

00:31:32.820 provided,

00:31:33.620 however,

00:31:34.360 that any such act

00:31:35.440 shall not be

00:31:36.300 considered an abortion

00:31:37.360 if the act

00:31:38.560 is performed

00:31:39.100 with the purpose

00:31:39.740 of A,

00:31:40.720 removing a dead

00:31:42.080 unborn child

00:31:42.980 caused by

00:31:43.600 spontaneous abortion

00:31:44.780 or removing

00:31:46.300 an ectopic

00:31:47.680 pregnancy.

00:31:49.580 So,

00:31:50.280 it is abortion

00:31:51.040 that is prohibited,

00:31:52.300 not miscarriage care.

00:31:53.420 Now,

00:31:53.640 here's what could,

00:31:54.940 what some people

00:31:55.700 could say

00:31:56.420 if I am to give

00:31:57.200 the benefit of the doubt

00:31:58.080 to the other side,

00:31:58.980 which I am

00:31:59.660 hesitant to do

00:32:01.520 because I don't think

00:32:02.480 most people

00:32:03.120 even talking about this

00:32:04.180 have read the law

00:32:05.380 at all,

00:32:06.380 but one could argue

00:32:08.260 that here is the point

00:32:09.380 of confusion.

00:32:11.840 Removing a dead

00:32:12.720 unborn child

00:32:14.360 caused by

00:32:14.880 a spontaneous abortion,

00:32:16.680 so that means

00:32:17.080 miscarriage,

00:32:17.600 I don't even like

00:32:18.100 that language,

00:32:18.720 but by spontaneous

00:32:20.060 abortion or miscarriage.

00:32:21.560 So,

00:32:21.880 I guess the hospital

00:32:22.840 or doctors

00:32:23.400 could have said,

00:32:24.120 well,

00:32:24.320 if we remove

00:32:25.000 a child

00:32:25.620 that was from,

00:32:27.600 that is dead

00:32:28.660 from an induced

00:32:29.540 abortion,

00:32:30.600 is that still

00:32:31.540 legal?

00:32:32.320 But here's why

00:32:33.140 I actually

00:32:33.760 do not think

00:32:35.120 that it is confusing

00:32:36.320 because if you go

00:32:37.320 down a little bit

00:32:38.220 further

00:32:38.580 in the bill,

00:32:40.940 we see

00:32:43.720 that it defines

00:32:45.760 what a medical

00:32:47.280 emergency is

00:32:48.660 and in what cases

00:32:51.680 an abortion,

00:32:53.120 an abortion,

00:32:53.840 so even like

00:32:54.540 an induced abortion

00:32:55.640 is allowed.

00:32:57.200 If you go to

00:32:57.800 section three,

00:32:58.660 number three

00:32:59.620 of this bill,

00:33:01.740 we see here

00:33:02.640 medical emergency,

00:33:04.180 so this is,

00:33:05.460 this is the exception

00:33:07.060 to the no abortion

00:33:08.380 rule in the Georgia law.

00:33:10.040 Medical emergency

00:33:10.940 means a condition

00:33:11.740 in which an abortion

00:33:12.580 is necessary

00:33:13.480 in order to prevent

00:33:14.440 the death

00:33:14.840 of the pregnant woman

00:33:15.620 or the substantial

00:33:16.500 and irreversible

00:33:17.240 physical impairment

00:33:18.160 of a major bodily

00:33:19.520 function of the pregnant woman.

00:33:21.460 No such greater risk

00:33:22.500 shall be deemed to exist

00:33:23.560 if it is based

00:33:24.200 on a diagnosis

00:33:24.880 or claim of a mental

00:33:25.840 or emotional condition

00:33:27.000 of the pregnant woman

00:33:27.760 or that the pregnant woman

00:33:28.960 will purposely engage

00:33:30.140 in conduct

00:33:30.880 which she intends

00:33:32.000 to result in her death

00:33:33.240 or in substantial

00:33:33.920 and irreversible

00:33:34.740 physical impairment

00:33:35.640 of a major bodily function.

00:33:36.960 So a woman

00:33:37.800 can't come in

00:33:38.380 and say,

00:33:38.980 hey,

00:33:39.220 I'm going to harm myself

00:33:40.820 or harm my unborn child

00:33:42.200 unless you give me

00:33:42.980 an abortion.

00:33:43.640 That's not a reason

00:33:44.240 for abortion.

00:33:44.920 Her saying,

00:33:45.900 oh,

00:33:46.220 like I have mental health

00:33:47.500 problems.

00:33:47.880 That's not a reason

00:33:48.460 for abortion.

00:33:49.640 Reason for abortion

00:33:50.640 in the state of Georgia

00:33:51.640 is to save the mother's

00:33:52.880 physical life

00:33:53.620 or to prevent

00:33:54.440 serious physical harm

00:33:55.640 from her.

00:33:56.120 That means

00:33:56.880 that even if the child

00:33:58.620 had been alive

00:33:59.720 in Amber Thurman's womb,

00:34:02.200 she could have legally

00:34:03.160 gotten an abortion

00:34:03.960 at this point

00:34:04.640 in the state of Georgia.

00:34:06.740 So definitely

00:34:08.460 she could have legally

00:34:09.740 gotten a DNC

00:34:13.500 after her baby

00:34:14.200 had died inside her

00:34:15.540 in the state of Georgia.

00:34:16.900 That is completely legal.

00:34:18.680 And it is the hospital's fault

00:34:20.520 if they have not provided

00:34:21.640 guidance to their doctors.

00:34:22.980 It is these doctors

00:34:24.020 and nurses' fault

00:34:25.280 if they did not do

00:34:27.100 what needed to be done.

00:34:28.740 Sadly,

00:34:29.520 but also thankfully,

00:34:30.540 I have talked to many of you

00:34:32.140 who have gone through

00:34:33.540 miscarriages

00:34:34.140 in these states

00:34:36.660 where the pro-life laws

00:34:38.400 have been passed

00:34:39.280 and you have all been able

00:34:41.800 to get the miscarriage care

00:34:43.220 that you needed

00:34:44.440 without a problem.

00:34:46.340 There are pro-life doctors

00:34:47.400 also speaking out

00:34:49.520 about this.

00:34:50.320 This is according

00:34:50.920 to the American Association

00:34:52.620 of Pro-Life Obstetricians

00:34:54.600 and Gynecologists.

00:34:56.520 They say this

00:34:57.620 after they explain

00:34:58.760 the timeline

00:34:59.280 of what happened

00:34:59.940 to Amber Thurman.

00:35:01.040 They say,

00:35:02.020 and this is absolutely true,

00:35:03.320 these drugs,

00:35:04.260 the abortion drugs,

00:35:05.240 were the root cause

00:35:06.820 of the following events.

00:35:09.680 And then they describe

00:35:10.660 exactly what happened

00:35:11.860 with her bleeding,

00:35:12.920 her having to go

00:35:13.660 to the ER.

00:35:15.220 The doctor said

00:35:16.120 that this was her diagnosis,

00:35:17.660 should have been her diagnosis,

00:35:19.220 that they say

00:35:20.080 any first-year resident

00:35:21.260 could have made.

00:35:22.920 Endometritis,

00:35:23.820 due to incomplete abortion

00:35:25.220 with probable sepsis,

00:35:26.780 standard of care

00:35:27.440 for treatment,

00:35:28.180 immediate antibiotics,

00:35:29.620 and DNC.

00:35:31.240 They said that

00:35:32.320 waiting three hours

00:35:33.700 until she started

00:35:34.760 on antibiotics

00:35:35.560 after she presented

00:35:36.600 with these symptoms

00:35:37.780 violates standard of care.

00:35:40.160 They said DNC

00:35:41.120 should have been

00:35:42.360 immediate and concurrent

00:35:43.520 with the initiation

00:35:44.660 of antibiotics

00:35:45.940 and was not prevented

00:35:47.540 by Georgia's law.

00:35:48.720 They also explained

00:35:50.380 the standard of care

00:35:51.960 after Amber continues

00:35:54.980 to show that her infection

00:35:56.440 is not going away

00:35:57.280 with antibiotics.

00:35:58.940 Immediate DNC.

00:36:00.320 Obviously,

00:36:00.940 what they were doing

00:36:01.500 was not working

00:36:02.260 and she's at imminent

00:36:03.200 risk of death.

00:36:04.120 To continue on the same course

00:36:05.380 was negligence,

00:36:06.320 pure and simple.

00:36:08.600 And again,

00:36:09.380 they just go through.

00:36:10.980 At every point

00:36:12.040 where she continues

00:36:13.440 to get worse and worse,

00:36:14.440 they should have done

00:36:15.140 an immediate DNC.

00:36:16.260 There was no reason

00:36:17.680 for them to wait

00:36:19.380 approximately 20 hours

00:36:22.440 when she is on

00:36:23.340 the brink of death.

00:36:24.720 They also say

00:36:25.760 this is one of the most

00:36:26.660 clear-cut cases

00:36:27.640 of medical malpractice

00:36:29.040 based on the information

00:36:30.280 available publicly

00:36:31.160 that we have ever seen.

00:36:32.600 Standard of care

00:36:33.540 on her arrival

00:36:34.260 was an immediate DNC

00:36:35.700 and initiation

00:36:36.360 of antibiotics.

00:36:37.600 Had this been done,

00:36:38.700 she most likely

00:36:39.580 would be alive today.

00:36:42.100 They say her death

00:36:42.940 was due to two things,

00:36:44.140 abortion drugs

00:36:44.920 and lack of appropriate

00:36:46.400 and timely medical care

00:36:47.640 which is perfectly legal

00:36:49.440 in pro-life states

00:36:50.500 and that's true.

00:36:51.520 There is no pro-life law

00:36:53.100 that restricts

00:36:54.460 or prohibits

00:36:55.140 in any way

00:36:55.960 miscarriage care.

00:36:57.500 Wherever that is happening,

00:36:59.380 that is the fault

00:37:00.200 of the hospitals,

00:37:01.320 that is the fault

00:37:01.900 of the doctors.

00:37:02.840 Doctors have always

00:37:03.620 had to navigate

00:37:04.340 abortion law.

00:37:06.360 There have always been

00:37:07.080 abortion laws

00:37:07.700 on the books.

00:37:08.720 They've always had

00:37:09.300 to navigate those

00:37:10.220 at different points

00:37:10.860 of pregnancy.

00:37:11.780 It is a lie

00:37:12.520 that all of a sudden

00:37:13.300 doctors don't know

00:37:13.980 how to do this

00:37:14.540 and I don't want

00:37:15.480 to think that

00:37:16.420 this negligence

00:37:17.240 is purposeful

00:37:17.980 to make a political point.

00:37:19.180 I really pray

00:37:19.920 that that is not the case.

00:37:21.240 I don't think

00:37:21.820 that's the heart

00:37:22.520 of most doctors

00:37:23.420 and nurses

00:37:23.960 but hospitals

00:37:26.560 have got to get it together.

00:37:27.680 It is not the fault

00:37:28.560 of laws protecting

00:37:29.620 babies from being dismembered.

00:37:32.140 It is medical malpractice

00:37:34.080 and in some cases

00:37:34.980 probably political malintent.

00:37:38.840 These pro-life OBGYNs

00:37:40.520 say this complication

00:37:41.300 of abortion drugs

00:37:42.020 is not rare.

00:37:42.680 Retained tissue

00:37:43.880 requiring surgical

00:37:44.860 evacuation occurs

00:37:45.860 in roughly 5%

00:37:46.940 of women

00:37:47.400 who take these drugs

00:37:48.720 at 9 weeks.

00:37:49.500 5% is huge

00:37:51.200 by the way.

00:37:51.620 That sounds small.

00:37:52.580 That is not small

00:37:53.800 when it comes to medicine.

00:37:55.700 Like you know

00:37:56.340 that there are some doctors

00:37:57.200 I've talked about

00:37:57.660 having a VBAC before

00:37:58.640 that's a vaginal birth

00:38:00.220 after C-sections.

00:38:01.620 I had two C-sections

00:38:02.860 and then I had

00:38:03.940 a vaginal birth.

00:38:04.740 There are many doctors

00:38:05.700 who will not do that

00:38:07.260 because of the risk

00:38:08.360 of uterine rupture.

00:38:09.200 The risk of uterine rupture

00:38:11.040 if you have TOLAC

00:38:13.520 which is trial of labor

00:38:14.760 after cesarean

00:38:15.780 is less than 1%.

00:38:19.680 It's like 0.2%.

00:38:21.940 Okay?

00:38:23.060 And for that

00:38:24.260 many doctors

00:38:25.900 will not even try

00:38:27.540 because of course

00:38:28.960 it is catastrophic.

00:38:30.280 That's not

00:38:30.580 I'm not saying

00:38:31.040 that the risk isn't there.

00:38:32.280 It's catastrophic

00:38:33.300 if a uterine rupture

00:38:34.320 does happen

00:38:35.000 but it's extremely rare

00:38:36.800 and still

00:38:37.220 many doctors

00:38:37.960 will not even

00:38:39.160 allow you to try

00:38:41.020 and yet

00:38:41.980 we hear

00:38:42.880 that abortion

00:38:43.660 is safe.

00:38:45.360 You'll even see

00:38:46.060 propaganda hearing

00:38:46.820 that abortion

00:38:47.740 is safer

00:38:48.500 than labor and delivery.

00:38:50.500 Well if you take

00:38:51.540 a medication abortion

00:38:52.540 so that is

00:38:53.200 the abortion procedure

00:38:55.460 for the earliest

00:38:56.820 points of pregnancy

00:38:58.140 roughly 5%

00:39:00.060 of women

00:39:00.980 who take these drugs

00:39:02.600 that early on

00:39:03.520 the first trimester

00:39:04.420 nine weeks

00:39:05.920 have retained

00:39:07.500 tissue

00:39:08.220 that requires

00:39:09.160 a DNC.

00:39:10.000 Retained tissue

00:39:10.540 means baby parts

00:39:11.820 still inside them.

00:39:13.940 By the way

00:39:14.340 in nine weeks

00:39:15.040 like they're sprouting

00:39:15.740 arms and legs

00:39:16.620 okay I've seen

00:39:17.640 my babies

00:39:18.080 on the ultrasound

00:39:18.720 in nine weeks

00:39:19.540 it's not just

00:39:20.380 a glob of tissue

00:39:21.140 you're looking

00:39:21.640 at a tiny human being

00:39:22.760 and that's abortion

00:39:25.020 and if there had been

00:39:27.060 an abortion ban

00:39:28.000 all three of them

00:39:29.540 would still be alive.

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00:40:43.920 here's what

00:40:48.800 Kamala Harris

00:40:49.400 had to say

00:40:49.940 a young mother

00:40:51.360 from Georgia

00:40:51.860 should be alive

00:40:52.640 today raising

00:40:53.600 her son and

00:40:54.480 pursuing her

00:40:55.160 dream of

00:40:55.760 attending nursing

00:40:56.620 school this is

00:40:57.820 exactly what we

00:40:58.780 feared when

00:40:59.420 Roe v. Wade

00:41:00.160 was struck down

00:41:00.980 in more than

00:41:01.520 20 states

00:41:02.360 Trump abortion

00:41:03.520 bans prevent

00:41:04.420 doctors from

00:41:05.220 providing basic

00:41:07.060 medical care

00:41:08.640 that is malicious

00:41:10.380 disinformation

00:41:12.080 not even

00:41:13.540 misinformation

00:41:14.040 that is malicious

00:41:15.140 disinformation

00:41:17.220 that is not

00:41:18.700 true

00:41:19.060 whenever you see

00:41:20.820 these stories

00:41:21.340 guys

00:41:21.740 these stories

00:41:22.640 of toxic

00:41:23.140 empathy

00:41:23.500 which persuade

00:41:24.880 you to only

00:41:25.780 care about

00:41:27.060 the woman

00:41:27.440 we should care

00:41:28.220 about the woman

00:41:28.920 but to

00:41:30.020 ignore

00:41:30.780 the child

00:41:32.660 that is

00:41:33.060 actually being

00:41:33.900 victimized

00:41:34.760 remember that

00:41:36.940 no pro-life

00:41:38.040 law restricts

00:41:38.840 or prohibits

00:41:39.460 miscarriage

00:41:40.640 care

00:41:40.940 in any way

00:41:42.100 and actually

00:41:42.680 a lot of

00:41:43.200 these pro-life

00:41:43.860 laws

00:41:44.300 to many of

00:41:46.440 our dismay

00:41:47.300 have a lot

00:41:48.160 of exceptions

00:41:48.820 and so it

00:41:50.040 doesn't even

00:41:50.480 follow that

00:41:51.260 the pro-life

00:41:51.920 law is the

00:41:53.240 cause of women

00:41:53.840 not getting

00:41:54.380 miscarriage

00:41:55.060 care

00:41:55.360 this miscarriage

00:41:57.180 care

00:41:57.440 or lack

00:41:57.920 of miscarriage

00:41:58.640 care

00:41:59.100 lie

00:42:00.500 that you

00:42:00.900 are hearing

00:42:01.260 over and

00:42:01.700 over again

00:42:02.260 is how

00:42:02.900 they are

00:42:03.460 getting

00:42:03.920 pro-life

00:42:05.500 Christians

00:42:06.000 to vote

00:42:07.940 Democrat

00:42:08.360 because they

00:42:09.440 are convincing

00:42:09.980 you

00:42:10.480 that look

00:42:11.240 voting

00:42:12.040 for this

00:42:13.440 rabidly

00:42:14.140 pro-abortion

00:42:14.860 politician

00:42:15.460 which is

00:42:16.340 Kamala Harris

00:42:17.200 is not

00:42:19.280 pro-abortion

00:42:19.940 what did she

00:42:21.480 say at the

00:42:21.900 debate

00:42:22.140 you're not

00:42:22.460 compromising

00:42:23.080 your faith

00:42:23.720 you don't

00:42:24.000 have to

00:42:24.300 compromise

00:42:24.700 your sincerely

00:42:25.420 held

00:42:25.860 beliefs

00:42:27.240 to vote

00:42:28.480 for me

00:42:28.860 gosh

00:42:29.160 like how

00:42:29.920 satanic

00:42:30.420 is that

00:42:30.980 satan does

00:42:31.600 describe

00:42:32.120 or disguise

00:42:32.960 himself

00:42:33.360 rather as

00:42:34.140 an angel

00:42:35.240 of light

00:42:35.800 really reminds

00:42:36.820 me of that

00:42:37.240 using just

00:42:38.000 like a

00:42:38.760 biblical

00:42:39.520 sounding

00:42:40.080 words to

00:42:40.820 tell such

00:42:41.500 an ugly

00:42:42.300 murderous

00:42:42.980 lie

00:42:43.380 but the

00:42:45.740 truth is

00:42:46.460 voting

00:42:47.220 for

00:42:48.580 the ability

00:42:49.520 the access

00:42:50.540 to the

00:42:51.140 right to

00:42:51.860 an abortion

00:42:52.400 makes

00:42:53.920 easier

00:42:54.520 the slaughter

00:42:55.580 of unborn

00:42:56.040 children

00:42:56.400 you are

00:42:57.080 saying

00:42:57.380 when you

00:42:57.720 vote

00:42:58.120 for someone

00:42:59.500 like Kamala

00:42:59.940 Harris

00:43:00.320 you are

00:43:00.980 saying

00:43:01.400 that you

00:43:02.460 do not

00:43:02.940 believe

00:43:03.280 that those

00:43:03.900 image bearers

00:43:04.560 inside the

00:43:05.140 womb

00:43:05.360 have the

00:43:06.660 same

00:43:07.180 right to

00:43:07.980 life

00:43:08.220 that you

00:43:08.560 do

00:43:08.820 and I

00:43:10.120 would like

00:43:10.460 for you

00:43:10.820 to logically

00:43:11.420 explain why

00:43:12.220 why is it

00:43:13.580 because they're

00:43:14.000 smaller

00:43:14.420 is it because

00:43:15.700 they're younger

00:43:16.260 is it because

00:43:17.320 they're less

00:43:17.760 sentient

00:43:18.360 is it because

00:43:19.500 they have

00:43:20.180 less of

00:43:22.440 an intellectual

00:43:23.760 capacity

00:43:24.360 is it because

00:43:25.680 they're weaker

00:43:26.140 than you

00:43:26.580 what is it

00:43:28.520 is it because

00:43:29.520 of their

00:43:29.740 location

00:43:30.340 inside the

00:43:31.300 womb

00:43:31.540 are those

00:43:33.240 good

00:43:33.440 justifications

00:43:34.140 for killing

00:43:35.140 someone

00:43:35.620 is it because

00:43:36.940 they're

00:43:37.120 unwanted

00:43:37.540 is it because

00:43:38.120 they might

00:43:38.360 have a hard

00:43:38.760 life

00:43:39.260 again are

00:43:40.700 those

00:43:40.960 justifications

00:43:41.600 for killing

00:43:42.100 people outside

00:43:42.800 the womb

00:43:43.200 if you

00:43:44.480 wouldn't apply

00:43:45.040 those

00:43:45.300 justifications

00:43:46.060 to killing

00:43:47.280 people outside

00:43:48.300 of the womb

00:43:48.800 why do you

00:43:49.540 apply them

00:43:50.160 for people

00:43:51.080 inside the

00:43:51.640 womb

00:43:51.820 and if you

00:43:53.220 believe in

00:43:53.700 abortion

00:43:54.140 through 6

00:43:56.500 weeks

00:43:56.780 9 weeks

00:43:57.320 12 weeks

00:43:58.000 why

00:43:58.480 why not

00:43:59.980 24

00:44:00.460 why not

00:44:01.280 36

00:44:01.680 what's the

00:44:02.960 difference

00:44:03.400 we're all

00:44:04.180 perfectly human

00:44:05.440 from the point

00:44:05.980 of conception

00:44:06.500 onward

00:44:06.900 we've got

00:44:07.200 our own

00:44:07.580 DNA

00:44:07.920 from that

00:44:09.220 point

00:44:09.500 so what's

00:44:10.840 the scientific

00:44:11.620 difference

00:44:12.120 and therefore

00:44:12.480 what's the

00:44:12.900 moral difference

00:44:13.660 between a

00:44:14.420 baby at

00:44:14.800 conception

00:44:15.240 and a

00:44:15.720 baby at

00:44:16.100 40 weeks

00:44:16.680 yes it

00:44:18.540 understandably

00:44:19.140 horrifies us

00:44:19.880 more that

00:44:21.080 babies that

00:44:22.460 late in

00:44:23.360 the game

00:44:23.820 in pregnancy

00:44:25.680 are dismembered

00:44:27.680 that their

00:44:27.960 spinal cords

00:44:28.760 are sliced

00:44:30.020 and then

00:44:31.660 they are

00:44:32.580 delivered

00:44:33.380 dead

00:44:34.420 and limp

00:44:35.260 of course

00:44:35.780 that kind

00:44:36.460 of barbarism

00:44:37.160 and violence

00:44:37.720 is going

00:44:38.260 to disturb

00:44:40.240 us more

00:44:40.880 but the

00:44:41.200 truth is

00:44:41.960 the babies

00:44:42.820 at nine

00:44:43.320 weeks

00:44:43.600 are just

00:44:44.040 as much

00:44:44.400 babies

00:44:44.720 are just

00:44:45.280 as much

00:44:45.700 human

00:44:45.940 beings

00:44:46.280 even if

00:44:46.680 you use

00:44:47.060 embryo

00:44:47.560 even if

00:44:48.000 you say

00:44:48.300 zygote

00:44:48.800 even if

00:44:49.360 you say

00:44:50.160 fetus

00:44:50.540 these are

00:44:50.820 all just

00:44:51.140 stages in

00:44:51.800 human development

00:44:52.500 just like

00:44:53.180 infant or

00:44:53.980 toddler or

00:44:54.580 teenager

00:44:55.020 it doesn't

00:44:56.040 mean that

00:44:56.340 they are

00:44:56.920 less human

00:44:57.900 so if

00:44:59.440 you believe

00:45:00.180 for in

00:45:01.240 the right

00:45:01.720 to abortion

00:45:02.740 explain why

00:45:03.980 you don't

00:45:05.160 believe that

00:45:05.880 these human

00:45:06.420 beings should

00:45:07.020 have the

00:45:07.360 same legal

00:45:08.140 right to

00:45:09.720 live the

00:45:10.680 same legal

00:45:11.080 protections

00:45:11.520 against

00:45:11.920 murder

00:45:12.300 as you

00:45:13.880 and I

00:45:14.180 do

00:45:14.520 explain your

00:45:15.580 position not

00:45:16.080 only logically

00:45:16.640 and scientifically

00:45:17.220 but please

00:45:18.060 biblically

00:45:18.680 because when I

00:45:20.580 read my Bible

00:45:21.260 I read the

00:45:22.140 command against

00:45:22.880 murder

00:45:23.240 I read about

00:45:25.800 the God who

00:45:26.340 created us

00:45:27.100 fearfully and

00:45:27.740 wonderfully in

00:45:28.380 our mother's

00:45:28.880 womb

00:45:29.100 and the truth

00:45:30.840 is is that

00:45:31.780 Kamala Harris

00:45:32.520 and Donald

00:45:34.300 Trump are

00:45:35.420 too pro-choice

00:45:36.540 for my liking

00:45:37.300 I mean Donald

00:45:38.480 Trump has

00:45:39.460 talked about

00:45:40.080 oh maybe a

00:45:40.680 16-week

00:45:41.180 compromise

00:45:41.640 and you

00:45:44.180 know I'm

00:45:44.740 going to be

00:45:45.300 great for

00:45:46.060 women's

00:45:46.720 reproductive

00:45:47.260 health and

00:45:49.180 he kind of

00:45:50.260 flip-flopped on

00:45:51.260 amendment 4 in

00:45:52.180 Florida which

00:45:52.780 would allow

00:45:53.200 abortion through

00:45:53.820 all nine months

00:45:54.480 in the state

00:45:54.860 of Florida

00:45:55.260 but when I

00:45:57.780 look at the

00:45:58.200 two because

00:45:58.700 at the end

00:45:59.420 of the day

00:45:59.800 this election

00:46:00.380 is between

00:46:00.820 two people

00:46:01.340 that's it

00:46:02.460 it's a

00:46:03.080 binary choice

00:46:03.840 and when I

00:46:05.340 look at

00:46:05.620 Donald Trump

00:46:06.280 and I look

00:46:07.180 at Kamala

00:46:07.580 Harris I

00:46:09.800 see a huge

00:46:10.800 difference in

00:46:11.980 how they

00:46:12.960 will treat

00:46:14.160 pro-life

00:46:14.740 policy and

00:46:15.780 pro-lifers

00:46:16.660 when I look

00:46:17.820 at Kamala

00:46:18.260 Harris and I

00:46:19.480 see that as

00:46:20.140 Attorney General

00:46:20.880 of California

00:46:21.600 she went

00:46:22.100 after pro-life

00:46:22.920 reporter David

00:46:23.640 Delighton who

00:46:24.860 reported on the

00:46:25.600 alleged pay for

00:46:26.720 play scheme by

00:46:28.120 Planned Parenthood to

00:46:30.080 take and then

00:46:31.780 sell baby body

00:46:33.200 parts from

00:46:33.960 abortions when

00:46:35.320 I see that she

00:46:36.300 tried to force

00:46:37.120 pro-life pregnancy

00:46:38.020 centers through

00:46:38.680 the FACT Act to

00:46:40.240 advertise for

00:46:41.480 abortion that was

00:46:42.320 overturned by the

00:46:43.180 Supreme Court

00:46:43.720 because it was a

00:46:44.380 violation of the

00:46:45.700 First Amendment

00:46:46.220 when I see that

00:46:47.420 the Harris Biden

00:46:48.620 DOJ has jailed

00:46:50.700 praying pro-lifers

00:46:52.260 pro-life

00:46:53.120 grandmothers who

00:46:55.340 were blocking the

00:46:56.380 entrance to a

00:46:57.400 murder mill

00:46:58.020 Planned Parenthood

00:46:59.360 like they are in

00:47:00.400 prison right now

00:47:01.440 because of the

00:47:03.200 obscure face

00:47:04.440 act peaceful

00:47:05.740 pro-lifers who

00:47:06.780 were trying to

00:47:07.380 prevent murder

00:47:08.100 they are the

00:47:09.160 ones who are

00:47:09.620 going to prison

00:47:10.880 but not the

00:47:11.840 abortionists talk

00:47:13.300 about calling evil

00:47:14.320 good and good

00:47:14.960 evil that is the

00:47:15.900 Harris Biden

00:47:16.620 administration

00:47:18.260 she will do the

00:47:20.440 bidding of

00:47:20.980 Planned Parenthood

00:47:21.760 your First Amendment

00:47:23.440 rights be damned

00:47:24.220 that's who Kamala

00:47:25.780 Harris is

00:47:26.460 she voted against

00:47:28.420 the Born Alive

00:47:29.120 Infant Survivors

00:47:30.040 Protection Act in

00:47:31.100 2019 that did not

00:47:32.800 restrict abortion

00:47:33.540 at all but simply

00:47:34.560 said authored by

00:47:35.680 Ben Sasse that if a

00:47:37.080 baby survives an

00:47:37.960 abortion they have to

00:47:39.540 be given health care

00:47:40.440 she voted no

00:47:41.540 she voted no on

00:47:43.340 that and of course

00:47:44.120 Tim Walls has the

00:47:45.720 same stance that's

00:47:46.500 why at least eight

00:47:47.300 babies at least that

00:47:48.120 we know of have

00:47:49.160 died after botched

00:47:50.220 abortions in the

00:47:50.940 state of Minnesota

00:47:51.600 he said that he was

00:47:53.300 more pro-choice than

00:47:54.800 Nancy Pelosi so that

00:47:56.060 means all in through

00:47:57.180 all nine months for

00:47:58.320 any reason paid for

00:47:59.420 by the taxpayer

00:48:00.300 and then I look at

00:48:02.580 Donald Trump and I

00:48:04.380 wish he wouldn't say

00:48:05.040 the things that he

00:48:05.640 did about abortion

00:48:07.200 I wish he'd be

00:48:08.240 stronger on it I

00:48:09.160 wish he were

00:48:09.520 personally more pro-life

00:48:10.700 but I know for a

00:48:11.840 fact because of some

00:48:14.100 things I I can't say

00:48:16.020 publicly because

00:48:16.860 they're conversations

00:48:17.600 that were not my

00:48:18.320 own conversations

00:48:19.160 but conversations with

00:48:20.720 people who know

00:48:21.400 Donald Trump who I

00:48:22.240 trust very much

00:48:23.780 that Donald Trump

00:48:24.680 can and has

00:48:25.960 been moved on the

00:48:27.360 subject and we saw

00:48:29.400 that with Amendment

00:48:29.880 4 with Florida he

00:48:30.700 said oh you know I

00:48:31.700 don't know about the

00:48:32.380 whole six weeks thing

00:48:33.460 that law is too

00:48:34.800 strict maybe Amendment

00:48:36.000 4 is fine I'm

00:48:37.220 paraphrasing there but

00:48:38.220 it seemed like he was

00:48:38.920 voting in favor of it

00:48:39.900 but then there were a

00:48:41.260 lot of pro-lifers

00:48:42.000 around Donald Trump

00:48:42.880 that's a big difference

00:48:43.780 between Trump and

00:48:44.400 Kamala who said no

00:48:45.300 like let me tell you

00:48:46.780 exactly what this

00:48:47.540 amendment does and he

00:48:48.240 said no I'm voting no

00:48:49.360 on Amendment 4 his

00:48:51.120 mind can be changed

00:48:51.860 you think Kamala

00:48:52.460 Harris's mind can be

00:48:53.340 changed by a pro-lifer

00:48:54.080 should I turn around

00:48:54.980 and throw you in

00:48:55.860 jail I mean Donald

00:48:58.060 Trump did give us the

00:49:00.260 Dobbs decision through

00:49:01.260 his appointment of

00:49:02.460 Supreme Court

00:49:02.980 justices I do believe

00:49:05.420 even though he has

00:49:06.300 said things that I do

00:49:07.100 not like when it

00:49:08.640 comes to pro-life

00:49:09.820 legislation that he

00:49:10.740 will sign that and

00:49:13.140 that he is on the

00:49:14.120 side of life especially

00:49:16.120 when it comes to the

00:49:16.860 rest of his policies

00:49:18.040 economics immigration

00:49:19.400 crime foreign policy I

00:49:22.300 think we're looking at

00:49:23.000 less war and a lot

00:49:24.120 less violence and a

00:49:25.040 lot more peace and

00:49:26.160 order with Donald

00:49:27.080 Trump so I think life

00:49:28.980 in and outside of the

00:49:30.280 womb benefits from a

00:49:31.200 Donald Trump

00:49:31.660 presidency I only see

00:49:33.240 how life in and

00:49:34.040 outside of the womb is

00:49:35.280 harmed by a blood

00:49:36.380 thirsty Kamala Harris

00:49:37.420 presidency yes it's a

00:49:40.040 an election between the

00:49:41.260 lesser of two evils but

00:49:42.280 guess what every

00:49:43.560 election is a choice

00:49:46.120 between the lesser of

00:49:47.020 two evils because we

00:49:47.920 are not voting for a

00:49:48.760 savior we've already got

00:49:49.760 that the best

00:49:51.880 alternative to Kamala

00:49:53.020 Harris is the guy

00:49:53.740 that's on the ticket

00:49:54.400 that's Donald Trump

00:49:55.220 that's how I'm thinking

00:49:56.580 about how I'm voting in

00:49:57.580 this election based on

00:49:59.020 this issue that is so

00:49:59.880 important to me so

00:50:01.720 beware of the toxic

00:50:02.640 empathy that is going

00:50:03.580 to try to get you to

00:50:04.500 downplay Kamala

00:50:06.320 Harris's record and to

00:50:08.840 vote for her out of a

00:50:10.860 false sense of

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00:50:54.040 okay the Pope had

00:50:59.520 something to say about

00:51:01.240 the argument that I just

00:51:02.900 made kind of you know

00:51:05.040 the Pope I'm not

00:51:06.720 Catholic but I have a

00:51:08.760 lot of Catholic friends

00:51:09.660 and there are a lot of

00:51:11.100 Catholics on the

00:51:11.640 conservative side and

00:51:12.680 so I'm always interested

00:51:13.340 in what the Pope says

00:51:14.080 from my understanding

00:51:14.980 saying most of you

00:51:16.280 conservative Catholics

00:51:17.120 out there really do

00:51:18.080 not like the Pope and

00:51:19.320 don't like the things

00:51:20.220 that he says which I

00:51:21.320 as a Protestant see as

00:51:24.100 I mean I don't see it

00:51:25.140 as positive that he is

00:51:26.380 progressive in so many

00:51:27.340 ways but I see it as a

00:51:28.620 positive that there are

00:51:31.220 so many strong Catholics

00:51:32.300 saying yeah what the

00:51:33.660 Pope is saying is just

00:51:35.080 wrong and unbiblical

00:51:36.420 because the like the

00:51:39.280 unconditional fealty to

00:51:41.040 any one person gets us

00:51:42.800 into a lot of messes

00:51:44.120 especially theological

00:51:45.300 messes and so it's

00:51:46.860 good keep questioning

00:51:48.300 keep going back to the

00:51:49.880 truth in scripture and

00:51:51.940 I know that there have

00:51:52.740 been a lot of Popes

00:51:53.900 also especially in

00:51:56.820 recent years maybe not

00:51:57.520 a lot of Popes but

00:51:58.740 Popes in recent years

00:52:00.020 that have written a lot

00:52:01.100 of good stuff that we

00:52:02.680 Protestants have even

00:52:03.660 benefited from like the

00:52:05.140 theology of the body

00:52:06.360 but this Pope is not

00:52:08.140 quite as poignant he is

00:52:09.920 not quite as profound he

00:52:11.040 says things that I think

00:52:12.060 are just downright dumb and

00:52:13.960 here's one of them

00:52:14.600 saw one

00:52:15.080 Ambedue sono contro la

00:52:17.440 vita sia quello che butta

00:52:19.960 via i migranti sia quello

00:52:22.220 che uccide i bambini

00:52:24.580 nella morale politica in

00:52:28.580 genere si dice che non

00:52:31.500 votare è brutto non è buono

00:52:35.140 si deve votare e si deve

00:52:39.540 scegliere il male minore

00:52:42.400 chi è il male minore quella

00:52:46.460 signora o quel signore non so

00:52:49.200 ognuno inconscienza pensi e

00:52:52.020 faccia ok so if you're just

00:52:54.380 listening to this let me kind

00:52:55.660 of just paraphrase what he

00:52:58.040 said you can see the captions

00:53:00.100 on the screen if you're

00:53:01.500 watching on YouTube but he

00:53:03.040 basically said look you're

00:53:04.080 voting between the lesser of

00:53:05.060 two evils you gotta vote ok I

00:53:07.460 agree with that I agree with

00:53:08.460 both of those things but he

00:53:10.340 basically makes the argument

00:53:11.500 that both sides are morally

00:53:12.580 equivalent on one side he

00:53:14.340 says you've got people

00:53:15.120 throwing out migrants which

00:53:16.500 I guess is the Republican

00:53:17.280 side on the other side you've

00:53:18.600 got the pro-abortion side

00:53:20.020 look enforcing your borders is

00:53:22.560 not the same thing as killing

00:53:24.460 an unborn child borders are

00:53:26.240 good walls are good security is

00:53:28.680 good national sovereignty is

00:53:30.040 good protection is good

00:53:31.720 everywhere we see walls

00:53:33.140 mentioned in the Bible they

00:53:35.560 are at least symbols if not

00:53:37.760 literal demonstrations of

00:53:41.300 security and stability and

00:53:43.460 protection for a city even if

00:53:46.320 we look at how Israel was to

00:53:48.260 treat sojourners and foreigners

00:53:49.720 in the Old Testament yes they

00:53:51.640 were to be compassionate towards

00:53:53.660 them but those foreigners were

00:53:55.880 not permitted to illegally come

00:53:58.680 into Israel and to act as a

00:54:03.420 pagan they had to assimilate they

00:54:06.300 had to assimilate to the laws to

00:54:07.920 the regulations and of course

00:54:09.740 that was a theocracy and so even

00:54:12.440 the even the religious practices

00:54:14.920 of Israel and so not that we are

00:54:20.240 applying all Old Testament law to

00:54:23.640 America today because we are not

00:54:25.760 ancient Israel we don't live in a

00:54:27.780 theocracy but if we want to apply

00:54:30.700 the principles of Scripture which I

00:54:32.880 think is a good idea since God

00:54:34.340 made everything and therefore he is

00:54:36.240 in charge of everything to today

00:54:39.060 to understanding how do we think

00:54:41.120 about national sovereignty how do we

00:54:42.820 think about borders how do we think

00:54:44.060 about laws I think we can say sure we

00:54:46.660 can have compassion for the asylum

00:54:49.060 seeker we can have compassion for

00:54:51.160 the person who we can have compassion

00:54:54.260 for anyone whether that person is

00:54:56.020 illegal or legal but that does not

00:54:58.440 mean we have to be okay with the

00:55:00.980 mass importation of unassimilated

00:55:04.980 immigrants we don't have to be okay

00:55:07.580 with that China doesn't have to be

00:55:08.880 okay with that Zimbabwe doesn't have

00:55:10.460 to be okay with that India doesn't

00:55:12.100 have to be okay with that Australia

00:55:13.500 doesn't have to be okay with that

00:55:14.980 God gave us nations and borders for

00:55:18.580 our good God also gave us government

00:55:20.280 for our good Romans 13 the government

00:55:23.300 is meant to be an institution an

00:55:25.900 instrument by God to to punish the

00:55:28.700 evil doer and to reward good laws

00:55:32.780 order are all God's common grace to

00:55:36.960 people and it is chaos it is disorder

00:55:40.120 is lawlessness it is borderlessness that

00:55:43.580 hurts people so much that exacerbates

00:55:46.400 and incentivizes things like drug and

00:55:49.100 gun and human trafficking strong borders

00:55:52.860 strong American borders are good for us

00:55:55.440 they're also good for the world because

00:55:57.860 immigrants are disincentivized from making

00:56:02.840 that dangerous track into our border

00:56:05.940 sometimes at the expense of their lives

00:56:08.800 and also at the expense of the citizens in

00:56:11.900 the countries that they left and so no it's

00:56:16.300 not the same at all immigration policy is

00:56:18.460 good deportation of illegal aliens is good

00:56:21.420 it's an enforcement of the law and that

00:56:23.620 is the punishment for committing the

00:56:25.100 crime of illegally entering our country

00:56:27.360 and so no the Pope does not have

00:56:30.300 discernment there not at all some

00:56:33.400 things he says like people care too

00:56:35.040 much about their pets and not enough

00:56:36.180 about kids he is spot-on when it comes

00:56:38.360 to things like this and when it comes

00:56:40.000 to other theological aspects the other

00:56:41.640 day he said that all roads lead to God

00:56:43.680 false false that's simply not true

00:56:46.800 Jesus said I am the way the truth in

00:56:48.160 the life no one comes to the father

00:56:49.880 except through me if everyone came to God

00:56:54.500 through whatever means why did Jesus die

00:56:57.560 on the cross why did he sacrifice himself

00:56:59.520 for our sins he sacrificed himself so we

00:57:02.640 could be reconciled to a holy God by grace

00:57:04.600 through faith in him so that's like that's

00:57:07.320 gospel okay that's the gospel if you get

00:57:10.520 that wrong if anyone gets that wrong

00:57:12.240 including the Pope that person is not a

00:57:13.940 Christian like that is the fundamental

00:57:16.480 belief of Christianity so I hope and pray

00:57:19.660 that we misunderstood that he misspoke

00:57:23.020 and ultimately that the Pope understands

00:57:27.220 the saving grace of the gospel I think

00:57:28.900 the rest of his like errors political

00:57:31.960 errors would be righted if he would

00:57:35.780 write the fundamental theological wrong

00:57:38.460 that he has about salvation all right

00:57:42.060 that's all we got time for today be back

00:57:44.000 here on Monday

00:57:45.180 you

00:57:45.680 you

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 19, 2024

Ep 1070 ｜ Kamala Is Lying About Miscarriages for Votes

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