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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
- October 09, 2024
Ep 1080 | Kamala's 'Call Her Daddy' Catastrophe
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Kamala Harris went on Alex Cooper's Call Her Daddy podcast, and surprise, surprise,
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they got literally everything wrong. So we will be fact-checking them today. And also,
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Elon Musk talks about toxic empathy? Kind of. We'll get into all of that on today's episode
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Hey, guys, and welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Hope everyone has had a wonderful
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week so far. All right. I am thinking about and praying for our friends in Florida in the path
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of Hurricane Milton. I'm sure you guys are just so exhausted. And I'm not only praying for Florida,
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I'm also praying for the Southeast of the United States, North Carolina, East Tennessee,
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even parts of South Carolina and Georgia that have been affected by Hurricane Helene. You guys
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are still recovering. And we don't have time today to get into all of the different theories and
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concerns and questions about the recovery and rescue effort, what part the government has played
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and has not played in the past couple of weeks there. We will have an episode dedicated to that,
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going through a lot of the questions, what some people are calling the conspiracies. But
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I just want to make sure that we have all of the facts on that before I just present you with
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the theories, because I don't want to cause more confusion and more chaos, especially to a people
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that really need as much clarity and stability as possible right now. So as soon as we have all
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this efficient information and research on that, we're going to dig into some of those questions.
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But for those of you who want to contribute to recovery efforts in Florida, I encourage you
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donate to pregnancy centers in Florida. There's one in particular that I've been connected to. I had
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the privilege of meeting the people that run this clinic in Brandon, Florida. So they're a bit
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inland. They're outside of Tampa, but they really serve the larger area around them, including Tampa.
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This is Choices Clinic. They're a pro-life pregnancy center around or outside of Tampa,
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and they are saving babies' lives by serving their mothers, providing them with free resources
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that make it easier to welcome this little life into the world. And they have sent me a link
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to their baby registry on Amazon, and we will link that in the description of this episode.
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Please donate whatever you can. We can also link the website of that clinic if you just want to
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donate funds to them directly. But they're taking things like pack and plays, diapers, wipes,
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onesies, all kinds of things. They're probably going to have even greater needs than ever in the
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coming weeks. And they've asked that because we asked about timing. They've asked that you would
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go ahead and donate if you can. They can go ahead and get those resources very quickly. That's one
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great thing about Amazon. They can get there today. They can get there overnight, and they can go ahead
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and receive those. And because they are a bit inland, they can actually receive more items than maybe
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some of the clinics that are actually in Tampa, but they can still serve those in the entire area.
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So go ahead, go to the description of this episode and donate whatever you can via Amazon and just continue
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to lift these people up in prayer. When disaster strikes, that's when we see Christians stand up.
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You've seen a lot of understandably fearful people, stranded people, vulnerable people,
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and the past few weeks feel completely abandoned by the government, which is supposed to be made up
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of public servants. And in that vacuum, you've seen a fearless church. You've seen a courageous church.
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You've seen Christians doing what Christians have always done since the inception of the church,
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and that is seek and rescue the lost physically and then also spiritually as we share the gospel and we
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make clear that the love and generosity that we have for other people is because of God's love and
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generosity toward us. The grace and the mercy that we show others, the compassion that we show others
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is because of the grace, the mercy, the compassion that was poured out for us undeservedly, of course,
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on the cross. And so I'm so thankful for the church. I'm not thankful, of course, for what I find to be a
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dereliction of duty by the government, but I am thankful for how that darkness has allowed the church
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to shine so brightly because that is what it does. So praise the Lord for that. Thank you, Holy Spirit, for being
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our helper, for giving us bravery and boldness. And thank you to everyone who has sent material
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resources. Even if you are struggling yourself in these economically turbulent times, your generosity,
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just like the widow's might, means a lot to the Lord, and it can make a difference in the lives of
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people. So just continue to pray and to keep these people in mind. All right, today we're going to be
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fact-checking some stuff because as a part of the country is really struggling, Kamala Harris
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is going on her podcast tour, which I can't necessarily blame her for doing because this is
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a campaign. She does want to win. I've seen a lot of people say this is entirely inappropriate for her
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to be going on podcasts while she is not only running for president, but she is serving as vice
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president right now and Americans are suffering. And I see that perspective. On the other hand,
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I can also see why just objectively, why her campaign would want to go ahead and take this
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opportunity because she is gunning for the white woman vote. If you've been paying attention,
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that's who she's been focusing on from the very beginning. She wants every white woman vote that she
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can get. She knows she does not have to fight for the black vote, especially the black female vote.
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You can get mad at that all you want to. We'll see the polling numbers after this election. She does
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not have to fight for their votes. She has to fight for the white woman vote. This was a huge opportunity
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to do that and being on this podcast, call her daddy. And so I could see why she did it. The optics don't
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look good. It's not great PR in a lot of ways. If I had been her team, I probably would have said,
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yes, we're taking this opportunity, but let's hold the episode for a couple of weeks. And even I'm
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just speaking cynically and politically here, even just for the sake of visuals, for the sake of PR,
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I would have said, you know, let's get, let's get Harris out there on the ground in Florida,
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on the ground in the Southeast, make sure people know that this is her number one priority,
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that she's really serving these people, passing out water bottles. And then we can put out the,
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call her daddy episode. That would have been, I think, just from a strategic perspective,
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the best bet. Of course, the best thing to do would be for her to really, really care about
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what's going on among her fellow Americans and those hurting. But I'm not sure if we can really
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expect that at this point. President Trump, on the other hand, has been on the ground and it does seem
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that he has been listening to these people and helping how he can. And that is good strategy
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wise, but it's also just the right thing to do. But all of that aside, we need to look at the
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substance of this episode. Will people be convinced by it? Will they be persuaded by it? Maybe, but only
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if you don't have very much knowledge. And if you have very few critical thinking skills, you don't even
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have to be a conservative or a Christian to listen to some of what was said and ask yourself,
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hmm, does that sound right? Is that really true? So we're going to be digging into that today and
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hopefully equip you with some tools as you are talking about all of these crazy topics with your
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friends in the coming weeks, because the election is coming up, y'all. It is less than a month away.
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Insane. And so now's the time to be bold and to represent what you know is true and all the
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All right. Call her daddy. If you've never heard of call her daddy, congratulations. That is very
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good. In fact, I think that you are holier than everyone else simply for never having heard of the
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title of this podcast and I'm very sorry to corrupt you, but unfortunately it is now interfered with
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our political discussions. And so we have to talk about it. I first heard about call her daddy several
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years ago, probably when I was starting relatable because it was such a popular podcast and I've
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never listened to call her daddy because it was pretty obvious what it was about. It was, uh, begun by
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two girls, two women, uh, Sophia Franklin and Alex Cooper. And they really just talked about sex
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and that's really all it was about. And then Cooper and Franklin, they had a whole falling out. We could
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do an entire episode analyzing that drama and that was in 2020. But then a year later, Cooper landed a
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$60 million deal with Spotify. So she became the sole host of call her daddy. Sophia Franklin tried to go
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off and do her own thing that didn't work. So I'm sure Alex Cooper is feeling like she made the right
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decision. It has now become the most listened to podcast by women on Spotify. It was Spotify second
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biggest podcast last year. And she also just signed a deal. I believe Brie with Sirius XM for $125
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million. Okay. So this was, uh, has been a sex podcast. I don't know if she would continue to call
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it a sex podcast. I think she would, you know, probably call it just a culture podcast because
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she's had Simone Biles, Hayley Bieber, Megan Fox, Gwyneth Paltrow on. Um, but the titles of the
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episodes are still very X-rated cheating one-on-one, my revenge porn experience, an episode about
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slut camp, some things that I literally can't say. It's very graphic. Basically she talks about,
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and this is her brand and has been her entire brand being promiscuous and trying to present the case
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that women are just like men when it comes to sex, that they want sex just as much as men do.
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They can sleep around just as much as men have slept around and they don't have any emotional
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attachments to those men. It means nothing to them on a spiritual or moral level. And unfortunately,
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there are people, even conservatives, there are Trump supporters who faithfully listen to
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the call her daddy podcast. And it should not be surprising that Alex Cooper is also a lib,
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not surprising at all, because as much as the Democrats say that they're about freedom and
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liberty, they're actually about libertinism. When they're talking about freedom, as we've said before,
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they're talking about two things. They're not talking about your first and second amendment
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rights. They're not talking about your bodily autonomy when it comes to vaccines. They're not
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talking about free speech, freedom of religion, or even your ability to defend yourself, how you see fit.
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They're not talking about those things. When Democrats talk about freedom, they're talking about two
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things and two things that go hand in hand, sexual immorality and abortion. So they're not really
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even talking about liberty in the positive sense. They are talking about libertinism. They're talking
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about sexual degeneracy, your freedom to do all kinds of sexually depraved things and to be celebrated
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and affirmed in those choices, but also your choice to kill your baby. And so when they say that they are
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on the side of freedom, they're always talking about those two things, whether it's pornography in
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schools, whether it's teaching kids in school that they are born in the wrong body, whether it's
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mutilating a person, even a minor's body in the name of gender identity, or talking about two men
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being able to employ subsidized reproductive health services to buy eggs and rent wombs to have a child
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and forcing you, by the way, to pay taxes in support of that, they always, freedom always falls under
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those two umbrellas. They're not talking about the freedoms that actually affect your life in a
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positive way. They're talking about the freedoms that hurt us as a society and specifically hurt
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children. So it shouldn't be surprising that someone who has talked about slut camp and how women should
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sleep around as much as possible is a liberal. Of course, she aligns with their definitions of
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right and wrong. It also shouldn't surprise us that Alex Cooper is a big supporter of abortion. Her
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website, Alex Cooper's website, she uses a free news headline to talk to her, to take users to abortion
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information on her site. And it says, if you're looking for financial support for abortion care. So
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if you need help paying someone to kill your baby, to poison or starve or dismember your baby,
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then Alex Cooper makes that as easy as possible. It's no surprise that President Trump, by the way,
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denied the request to be on this show. Some people said, well, that's a mistake. This is a huge show.
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There's probably a lot of people. There are a lot of people that listen to or watch her that
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love Trump. It could have humanized him. Look, that was never going to be a good idea. She would
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have trapped him with all kinds of questions. It's so obvious that she is against him. Now he could
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have probably charmed her, but he would have ended up saying a lot of dumb stuff that would have made
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conservatives and evangelicals and pro-lifers even matter than they already are at Trump. And again,
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just the timing with the hurricane, I don't think was smart. So that's why. That's why we only have
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Kamala Harris. So Alex Cooper claimed that she prepared seven different versions of the interview
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when trying to decide which topics to cover the economy, border control, fracking. And yeah,
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that's a little bit hard to, it's hard to believe because while she might be savvy business wise,
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I think that's absolutely true. And so she's got her smarts in her own way. You will hear as she
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talks. She's not secretly brilliant. She's not, she doesn't really know what she's talking about
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at all. Her arguments are not good. It's not just that she has a Valley girl voice, but underneath
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all of that is some like scholarly, really deep and wise person. No, she is very superficial and just
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not very smart when it comes to this stuff. She says that she landed on this. The conversation I know
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I'm qualified to have is one surrounding women's bodies, right? And how we are treated and valued
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in this country. Actually, you have no authority whatsoever because you have been convincing women,
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preaching to women about denigrating their bodies and objectifying their bodies and being used
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by men for pleasure for years. I mean, who knows how many hearts have been broken? How many bodies have
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been harmed? How many relationships have been severed? How much mental stability and peace have
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been robbed from women because of Alex Cooper's podcast. So you have the authority to talk about
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this in the same way that Satan has the authority to talk about righteousness. He only knows about
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righteousness because he knows a lot about sin. So in that sense, sure, sure. So about 20 minutes in,
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they're talking about abortion. And of course, they go back and forth on a lot of different
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propaganda using toxic empathy to try to say that the woman is actually the victim in the abortion
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scenario. And to try to say all of these laws restrict a woman from being able to exercise her bodily
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autonomy. She uses the example of a woman who is raped. She should have control of what happens to her
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body next if she was impregnated. That's why she needs an abortion. Just a reminder that rape is less than
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one percent, less than one percent of every of of abortion cases in America. Less than one percent. That's
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according to the Guttmacher Institute. The Guttmacher Institute is the Planned Parenthood research arm. And of course,
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Kamala Harris and no pro-choice person that I know only believes in exceptions for rape or incest.
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They only bring that up to create this narrative of toxic empathy and make you forget about the baby
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who is actually the one bearing the brunt of abortion. And by the way, abortion doesn't fix rape.
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The rapist should get the death penalty, not the baby who did nothing wrong. But again, that is a very small
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percentage of the women who are seeking abortions. And there's no reason to bring that up unless you believe
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that that should be the only exception for abortion. Kamala Harris does not care how a baby was conceived when it
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comes to whether or not a woman should have a right to abortion. She thinks no matter what the reason is, a woman
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should have a right to abortion. And then she brings out what she has said many times because she's
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gunning not only for the white woman vote, but for the Christian mom vote specifically. And this is how
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they use toxic empathy. This is how she even uses and misuses and abuses theology. She says, you don't
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have to abandon your deeply held beliefs. You don't have to abandon your faith to agree the government
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shouldn't be telling her what to do. If she chooses, she can talk to her priest, her pastor,
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her rabbi, or her imam, but not the government telling you what to do. Look, if the government
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does not have a role in protecting innocent people from being murdered, then the government doesn't have
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a role in anything. By this logic, it should not be illegal to kill anyone outside of the womb.
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It shouldn't be illegal to do anything. Of course, it is the government's job, even according to the
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Bible in Romans 13, to tell people what to do and what not to do. And there are punishments when people
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do something that they are not supposed to do. The government doesn't have a say in everything. Of
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course, I, as a Republican, don't believe that the government should have a say in everything.
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But when it comes to protecting our inherent rights of life, liberty, the pursuit of property,
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yes, the government has a role. The government's, one of the government's primary functions
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is to protect innocent life from being assaulted, from being violated, from being murdered.
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So if the government doesn't have a role in protecting babies inside the womb, then they don't
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have a role to do anything. Cooper responds with how little men seem to know about women's bodies.
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Here's not one.
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I have seen girls on the street walk up to men and be like, do you know where a tampon goes?
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Do you know how many tampons we use? Do you even know how, like, do you know what a X or Y or Z is
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a part of our, and they don't know the answer? I was the first vice president or president to ever
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in office go to a reproductive health care clinic, ever. Really? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I didn't know
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that, but I guess that makes sense. I thought that she was going to say that I was the first vice
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president to ever use a tampon. I don't understand how her response correlated with what Alex Cooper said
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there. And of course, this is a euphemism. Reproductive health clinic is a euphemism for
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an abortion clinic. And clinic is even a euphemism. Abortion mill, abortion provider would probably,
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abortion perpetrator would probably be a better name for that institution. And that's the thing,
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of course, that we've talked about a lot when it comes to abortion. If abortion were so great,
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if it really were something that we should all celebrate, a choice that we should all get behind,
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they would be able to use exact language. They would use that as their advertising and marketing
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campaign. If abortion were really that great, they would be the ones with the billboards and the sign
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saying, here's an aborted fetus. Here is what the process looks like. Here's exactly what we do
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when we provide an abortion to a woman. If abortion were really that great, then they would be telling
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you exactly what it is using exact and scientific language. But because the law of God is written on
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the human heart, even Planned Parenthood knows that showing people what happens in an abortion is a major
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turnoff. It's too barbaric. If people saw the little babies with the severed arms and legs, with the
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crushed skulls, if they saw their little bloody fingers and toes, if they knew what happens when a
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baby is sucked out of the womb with a vacuum or dismembered with forceps, if they were there in the room
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watching that happen on an ultrasound, they would no longer be pro-choice. And they would say,
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this is murder. The government has to step in. They've got to do something. These are people that
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can feel pain and they don't deserve to die. They deserve the same human right that you and I do.
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But instead, they have to rely on lies. They have to rely on propaganda. They have to rely
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on this euphemistic language like bodily autonomy, like women's rights, like reproductive health care,
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like terminating a pregnancy, even like fetus. Fetus is not the medical term. It is just the
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Latin word for offspring or small child. And the only reason the word fetus is used is because they
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know that baby sounds too human. And yet he or she is a human. Scientifically, she is a human from the
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point of conception. And so if you support abortion, you need to be able to articulate in a cogent way
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why you believe it should be legal to kill some innocent people. Why? Size, location,
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sentience, development, wantedness. If any of those are your reasons, do they apply to people
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outside of the womb too? Should we be able to kill a five-year-old, a 15-year-old because they're
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smaller than a 30-year-old, because they're not wanted, because they have a hard life, because
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they're poor, because they have special needs, because they don't understand what's going on?
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They don't have sentience or those reasons to kill people outside of the womb? If they're not reasons
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to kill people outside of the womb, why are they reasons to kill people inside the womb? Surely it's
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not location or dependence, because again, those are very arbitrary reasons to justify murder. I'm not
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sure that Alex Cooper has thought through those things, though. Hopefully, maybe some of her listeners
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Okay, Alex Cooper also tries to justify her support for abortion with her Catholicism. She is trying to
00:27:15.900
say that she had an episode where she explained her position that, you know, just because I'm
00:27:21.700
personally against it, which I'm not even sure that she would totally say, but basically if you're
00:27:27.160
personally against it, because of your faith, that doesn't mean that you should be against it
00:27:31.240
for someone else. Here's thought two.
00:27:34.180
I was raised Catholic, and abortion is a sin. And when I put out that episode, I had a lot of
00:27:41.360
women reach out to me saying like, wow, I, you know, live in the South, and I never thought about
00:27:45.940
it that way. Like, maybe I am pro-choice because I won't get an abortion because of my religion,
00:27:51.500
but why should we control what someone else wants to do? In state after state, so-called red states and
00:27:57.140
so-called blue states, when this issue has been on the ballot, the American people are voting for
00:28:01.960
freedom because ultimately it's about, look, this is not about imposing my thoughts on you in terms of
00:28:08.820
what you do with your life or your body. It's, it's actually quite the opposite. It's saying the
00:28:13.640
government shouldn't be telling people what to do. Again, going back to what we've already said,
00:28:18.720
the government tells people what to do. That is the role of the government. Kamala Harris understands
00:28:23.580
that. She actually believes that the government should be able to tell you a lot of things that
00:28:29.000
constitutionally they can't do. Like, I would just remind you that when she was attorney general,
00:28:33.820
that she pushed the FACT Act, which required pro-life pregnancy centers to advertise for abortion.
00:28:41.100
She wanted to force them, compel their speech to promote a procedure that they were working to
00:28:51.360
prevent. That's who Kamala Harris is. That's what she championed. And thankfully, the Supreme Court
00:28:59.900
overturned the law that she championed while she was attorney general of California. Why? Because it's a
00:29:05.280
clear violation of the First Amendment. Remember that she also went after David DeLighton, the pro-life
00:29:11.900
reporter that went undercover to investigate Planned Parenthood for an alleged pay for play scheme where
00:29:18.260
it seemed like they were exchanging baby body parts for profit. She sicked authorities on David DeLighton,
00:29:27.700
raided his home, took his tapes, never investigated Planned Parenthood. Even if it turned out that
00:29:34.260
Planned Parenthood was innocent in that case, don't you think as the chief law enforcement officer in
00:29:41.240
the state of California, you should want to see if there's any illegal activity going on instead of
00:29:46.880
violating the First Amendment rights, the freedom of David DeLighton, who, by the way, several years
00:29:51.880
later, even though she is not in charge of California politics anymore, like he is still stuck in a legal
00:29:58.320
battle over his investigative work. She doesn't care at all about your freedoms. Again,
00:30:03.760
when they say freedom, they're talking about abortion or sexual degeneracy. That is all she is
00:30:09.560
talking about. She does not believe in your liberty at all. She was completely behind the Biden
00:30:14.120
administration's mandate for businesses to require the vaccines for their employees. She was completely
00:30:20.600
behind requiring nurses, frontline workers to take an experimental vaccine that led to the laying off
00:30:28.700
of many nurses when there was already a shortage. That's who Kamala Harris is. She doesn't actually
00:30:34.740
care about your freedom. She just wants that money from Planned Parenthood. Plus, she personally and
00:30:39.880
ideologically supports the killing of babies. And just again, yes, you do have to suspend your sincerely
00:30:48.840
held Christian beliefs to support abortion. You simply do. Now, Trump is not as pro-life as I want
00:30:58.960
him to be. They've been squishy on that. But you saw how he changed his mind when it came to Amendment
00:31:05.200
4 in Florida. And so you know that he can be influenced toward life. Thankfully, he did give us
00:31:12.800
the justices that gave us Roe v. Wade, which, by the way, if you're like, if this is a libertarian
00:31:19.320
issue for you, if this is a freedom issue for you, you should be happy that it's gone to the states,
00:31:25.560
that the people in the states can elect the representatives to then decide the law that
00:31:30.280
dictates how abortion is restricted and regulated. Now, I think it's horrific because I'm in the exact
00:31:36.840
opposite position of where Kamala Harris is. I think it's horrific that this is a state's
00:31:42.780
rights issue, like slavery was, because the right to life is a human right that shouldn't be up for
00:31:49.100
legislative debates in the states. They think the same thing, by the way. Tim Walls made that very
00:31:54.280
clear in the debate, but they just think it's abortion. The right to kill the child is the
00:31:58.800
fundamental human right that shouldn't be infringed. And they're exactly wrong. There's no constitutional
00:32:03.500
right to that. There's no moral right to that. And we on this side are exactly right, that it is,
00:32:08.620
of course, a constitutional, fundamental, moral, God-given right to not be murdered as an innocent
00:32:15.560
person, whether you are in or outside of the womb. Then Cooper repeats this Amber Thurman lie,
00:32:22.760
the woman who died in Georgia because she was pregnant with twins. It was after the limit in
00:32:28.300
Georgia. She traveled to North Carolina. She missed her appointment. She got abortion pills without even
00:32:33.520
seeing the doctor. She suffered complications from the abortion pills. And unfortunately,
00:32:39.220
she died. She should have been given antibiotics. She should have been given a DNC. But really,
00:32:43.620
if there had actually been a ban on abortion pills, all three of these image bearers of God would be
00:32:48.980
alive. And yet they repeat the lie. Alex Cooper repeats the lie that because of the Georgia pro-life
00:32:54.440
law, she is dead, that the doctors were too afraid to treat her because of the Georgia pro-life law.
00:33:00.640
That's not true at all. It actually would have been legal. Even if the babies had been alive
00:33:05.900
in Amber Thurman's womb at that point in Georgia, she would have been legally able to get an abortion
00:33:11.400
because Georgia makes an exception for the life of the mother. But the babies were already dead in
00:33:17.180
her womb. And so it absolutely was legal for her to get a DNC. It is not the fault of the pro-life law.
00:33:22.740
Every pro-life law on the books makes an exception for the life of the mother. But again,
00:33:28.860
just because there is a pro-life law doesn't mean that women are being victimized. This is another
00:33:34.640
example of that toxic empathy where you're supposed to forget about the fact, we're not supposed to
00:33:39.240
be sad about the fact that there are twin babies, innocent people who were brutally murdered and died
00:33:47.240
in this story. I can feel sad that Amber Thurman died, that she left her baby, an orphan. I mean,
00:33:53.300
where is the dad? We don't know about that. But poor child. But if there had actually been a ban on
00:34:00.760
abortion, if she had not been able to get those abortion pills in North Carolina, all three of
00:34:06.080
those people would be alive right now. But of course, they push this propaganda about we need abortion to
00:34:13.440
save a mother's life. That is not medically true. It's not scientifically true. We just talked to the
00:34:18.520
OBGYN last week. We can link the description or link it in the description of this episode.
00:34:23.700
You can listen to her. There is not a reason to purposely kill a child in the womb to save a
00:34:28.020
mother's life. There's just not. And it's funny because Harris says, you believe there's an exception
00:34:34.480
if the life of the mother is at risk. You know what that means in practical terms. She's almost dead
00:34:39.320
before you can give her care. So we're going to have public health policy that says a doctor,
00:34:43.300
a medical professional, medical professional, she had to clarify because Planned Parenthood does not want
00:34:48.280
there to be a doctor requirement. They want anyone who is on staff at Planned Parenthood to be able to
00:34:54.060
provide an abortion. Waits until you're at death's door before you give care. That's outrageous that
00:34:59.140
anybody would be saying that that is acceptable policy. Where's the humanity? There's no humanity
00:35:04.160
in abortion. There's none. It's bad for women and it's bad for babies inside the womb. It's bad for
00:35:09.000
society as a whole. There's no humanity, no compassion in abortion. This is all a perfect example
00:35:15.140
of toxic empathy. And I will give you more examples of that in this episode and in their exchange in
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just a second. But I do want to tell you about my book, Toxic Empathy, How Progressives Exploit
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00:35:51.520
that abortion is health care. And there's a quote from R.C. Sproul at the top. If I know anything at
00:35:58.300
all about God, I know that God hates abortion. That doesn't mean there's not grace and forgiveness
00:36:03.660
for those who have gone through abortion, but God hates the slaughter of innocent children.
00:36:09.920
And just as we do at the start of every chapter, we tell you a very heart-rending story, a gut-wrenching
00:36:14.780
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00:36:22.340
it comes to gender and when it comes to sexuality and marriage, when it comes to immigration and social
00:36:26.280
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00:36:32.740
baby had a fetal anomaly. And yet in Texas, she was forced to give birth to this baby, even though
00:36:37.780
she was very poor. And they paint this very sad picture so that at the end of it, you have so much
00:36:43.300
empathy for what this woman went through that you forget about the abortion. You forget about the
00:36:48.040
child altogether. And you think these pro-life laws are so draconian, they're so cruel. We have to stand
00:36:55.120
against them for the sake of the mother. But then, and this is the same formula we follow in every
00:37:00.980
chapter. We back up and we say, okay, we've gotten you to feel empathy for the mother, but what about
00:37:09.040
the person at the other side, on the other side of this moral equation? Let's look at the baby. In this
00:37:15.780
case, the baby is named Halo. And we look at what she would have gone through if she would have been
00:37:22.620
aborted at 20 weeks because of her diagnosis. Instead of being delivered and clothed and carried
00:37:32.360
and held and buried, she would have been brutally dismembered and discarded like toxic waste. Where
00:37:39.900
is our empathy for her? But then just as we do in every chapter, we say, okay, we feel empathy for both
00:37:48.800
parties in this story. But that only gets us so far. That's why we cannot be primarily led by empathy. We
00:37:56.580
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00:38:03.660
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Who started Planned Parenthood? What is her ideological legacy? What actually happens in an abortion?
00:38:18.800
What is the role of the government when it comes to abortion? How does that save lives? What about the
00:38:23.460
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slash Allie. Alex Cooper also said in the debate, former President Trump claimed that some states are
00:40:55.840
executing babies after birth. Can you just clarify? Here's thought three. That is not happening anywhere
00:41:03.460
in the United States. It is not happening. And it's a lie. Just it's a bold faced lie that he is
00:41:13.000
suggesting that can you imagine? Can you imagine? He is suggesting that women in their ninth month of
00:41:22.520
pregnancy are electing to have an abortion? Are you kidding? That is so outrageously inaccurate and
00:41:32.860
it's so insulting. Well, actually, of course, it is true. We remember Governor Northam a few years ago
00:41:41.060
on radio saying that if the baby survives an abortion, the baby will be put off to the side and then the
00:41:47.480
parents and the doctor can decide what to do with that baby. And under Governor Tim Walz's watch, at least
00:41:53.380
eight babies were born alive during botched abortions between 2019 and 2021. All eight of them died. None of
00:42:02.120
them received any care attempting to save their lives. Most of them didn't receive basic comfort care
00:42:07.320
either. And this is because of this omnibus bill that he signed called SF-2995, which repealed previous
00:42:17.560
laws ensuring that a baby born alive after an abortion would receive medical care and laws requiring that
00:42:24.360
these births after an attempted abortion would be reported. Also in 2023, Walz signed the Protect
00:42:31.860
Reproductive Options Act or the Pro Act or HF1, which enacted a quote-unquote fundamental right to abortion
00:42:41.240
with no limitations at any stage of pregnancy. Okay, so that is her running mate. That's not the only
00:42:50.680
state, of course, that has no laws that are protecting babies who survive these botched abortions.
00:42:58.640
For example, there are actually several states, there are five states at least, who have no protections
00:43:07.200
for babies born alive after failed abortions. That's according to Family Research Council. In the U.S.,
00:43:14.760
there are at least 277 known cases. Known cases. And only a few states are actually required to report
00:43:21.080
this thing, by the way, according to the Guttmacher Institute. There are at least 277 known cases in
00:43:27.060
which an infant has been born alive following an abortion, and the actual number is likely much
00:43:33.220
higher. And remember, Kamala Harris, in 2019, as the furthest left senator in the Senate,
00:43:44.500
she voted no on the Born Alive Infant Survivors Protection Act. I know that I've repeated this
00:43:51.380
ad nauseum. I feel like not enough people know this, but this was a law that was, or a bill that
00:43:58.540
was written by Ben Sasse that simply said, babies that survive abortions have to be given the same
00:44:05.260
medical care as any other baby who is delivered. Kamala Harris voted no. This didn't restrict
00:44:13.040
abortion in any way. Had nothing to do with the right to choose, quote unquote. Had nothing to do with
00:44:19.200
bodily autonomy because the baby is outside of the body. She voted no on that bill. Go read the bill
00:44:26.020
yourself. It's very simple. Born Alive Infant Survivors Protection Act. It's not like a lot of
00:44:31.040
these bills that Democrats push, like the FEMA bill or the border bill, where there's a ton of stuff
00:44:36.760
hidden in it that Republicans can't get on board with and Democrats turn around and they say they're
00:44:41.600
not for border security. Well, yeah, because you included all of the stuff that Republicans could never
00:44:46.080
get behind in this bill. That's not the case with the Born Alive Infant Survivors Protection Act.
00:44:52.020
Kamala Harris voted no. She doesn't believe babies that survive abortion should be protected. And if
00:44:57.600
you say that never happens, one, that's not true. Even if it's so rare, shouldn't we guarantee that those
00:45:03.840
babies are given a right to life? They don't believe that babies have a right to life, period. Even babies
00:45:10.940
outside of the womb. That's how grotesque they are. So don't buy into this toxic empathy.
00:45:17.720
In September of 2024, so just a few weeks ago, the New Yorker profiled this Colorado abortion doctor
00:45:25.100
named Warren Hearn for his work performing late-term abortions even to 35 weeks. Okay? I mean,
00:45:31.360
many babies are delivered at 35 weeks. It's still considered preterm. 37, 38, 39 weeks is considered
00:45:37.560
full-term. It really just kind of depends on what the doctor says. Typically, it's 38 weeks. But
00:45:42.720
preemies who are born 35 weeks have a really, really good chance of survival. They may only need
00:45:48.860
a week or two in the NICU. Really, at 24 weeks gestation, that's when a baby has a really good
00:45:56.140
chance of surviving outside the womb, like 80-plus percent chance. And there are babies who survive
00:46:01.300
outside the womb before that. 19, I think 19 weeks gestation, I think is the earliest baby. I think
00:46:07.540
it's, his name was Matthew. And I'm pretty sure this is reported by CNN. This baby who survived,
00:46:14.280
who was born preterm at 19 weeks and stayed in the NICU for a long time, but then ended up surviving.
00:46:21.140
So 19 weeks is the earliest. Abortion up to 35 weeks. And if you're telling me, well, that just
00:46:26.980
rarely, I mean, that's, no one wants that. No one wants that. So that's what Hillary Clinton has
00:46:31.500
said. That's what Kamala Harris would say. If you don't want that, don't do it. Because at that point,
00:46:36.500
like if you're suffering, if you have a health problem that requires you to no longer be pregnant,
00:46:42.340
if you need very imminent chemotherapy, then you deliver that baby. You deliver the baby.
00:46:49.820
Either way, the baby is going to come out, right? You don't have to have an MD after your name to
00:46:54.460
understand this. You just have to have a couple of brain cells. You don't have to kill the baby
00:46:59.700
before the baby comes out to save yourself. There's no reason for that. And a fetal anomaly
00:47:07.020
is not a reason to kill a baby. It's not. Okay. You could say that's cruel. No, it's cruel to kill
00:47:12.460
the baby because the baby might have a disability and doctors aren't even always right. But even if they
00:47:17.400
are right, if that baby has trisomy 13 or trisomy 18 or whatever it is, that's not a reason to kill
00:47:22.460
the baby. We don't kill people because they have special needs. But of course, the New Yorker
00:47:27.540
loves Warren Hearn for performing these late-term abortions. And again, that's the third trimester,
00:47:33.140
okay? Patients come to him from all over the country because he is one of only a handful of
00:47:37.680
physicians who can and will perform an abortion so late. The basic fact is that if you're pregnant,
00:47:42.520
you're at risk of dying from that pregnancy. It doesn't matter whether you're happy about being
00:47:46.200
pregnant. If having the abortion at any point in pregnancy is between 15 and 20 times safer
00:47:51.280
than carrying the pregnancy to term, what is the possible justification for forcing a woman to
00:47:56.500
continue the pregnancy if she doesn't want to? That is a quote from Warren Hearn. I don't even
00:48:05.500
believe that that's true. I don't believe that's true because an abortion at this point, just medically
00:48:10.680
speaking, and he knows this, he's an evil person, it takes several days for a baby to be aborted.
00:48:18.500
It's a long process where you have to dilate the cervix, you have to insert the laminaria
00:48:23.760
to dry up the amniotic fluid, hope that that suffocates the baby, starves the baby, because that's
00:48:30.980
what actually helps keep the baby alive, that amniotic fluid. And then very often you've got to
00:48:37.440
insert the chemical combination into the woman's womb, hopefully directly into the baby's heart,
00:48:42.520
even though the baby instinctively draws away from the pain of the needle. You insert that chemical
00:48:47.760
combination that causes cardiac arrest for that baby. And you hope, you hope that the baby is dead
00:48:55.060
now after all of this horrific and painful torture. And this is a couple day process. And then after that,
00:49:04.360
delivery is induced. And so she's delivering a dead baby. And remember, Leroy Carhart,
00:49:11.020
the late term abortionist said in the 1997 deposition that babies like that are like meat in a
00:49:16.420
crock pot. That's what it felt like. How awful. How awful. Tell me how that is safer than delivering
00:49:23.960
a baby alive. You have to deliver the baby. But here you're delivering a baby before your body is even
00:49:30.180
ready to deliver. It's not even going into labor naturally. And you've had all this other stuff
00:49:35.660
inserted inside of you to kill the baby first. That doesn't even make logical sense. Again, like,
00:49:41.400
let's just think with our brains. The Atlantic also profiled him last year. Hearn estimated that at
00:49:48.400
least half and sometimes more of the women who come to the clinic do not have medical diagnoses.
00:49:54.020
They just want to kill their baby. Fact check, Kamala Harris. All right, we've got a couple more
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Okay, last thing on this. There are so many things we could talk about, but I just want to get to
00:51:00.100
like a clip of the Elon Musk interview with Tucker Carlson and talk about that for a second. And so I
00:51:08.460
don't have time to fact check all the things that they talked about on Call Her Daddy, but I just wanted
00:51:13.500
to play this one that really, it just blew, it just blew my mind. I don't like to call people dumb
00:51:20.860
that I disagree with. I don't think that everyone on the left is not smart. I don't believe that. I
00:51:26.640
think that they're really wrong, but even people that I disagree with, even people that sound vapid,
00:51:33.000
I think can actually be very smart. But this clip really had me questioning that. Here's top four.
00:51:39.360
I want to take a moment and can we try to think of any law that gives the government the power
00:51:48.720
to make a decision. I know what you're going to ask. About a man's body. No. No. Is there any law?
00:51:59.820
No. No. No. It's no. It's so awkward. It's so awkward, first of all. As many people have been
00:52:12.000
saying, the draft is a great example. Men have to sign up for the draft. They are legally forced to
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sign up for the draft. They are forced to sacrifice their own bodies, maybe for a war that they don't
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even agree with. Maybe for a cause that they can't even get behind. So that's one example.
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But then, really, when you think about it, every law tells you, male or female, what you can and
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can't do with your body. That's our whole argument against abortion, that you can do what you want
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with your body until you violate the rights of someone else. You can punch the air as hard as you want
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to over and over again. You can quit your job to punch the air on a street corner and talk to
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yourself and dance to Justin Bieber. No one cares. But if you punch someone in the face, that becomes
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a problem. You're no longer punching the air or punching a tree. You're punching someone in the
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face. You violated their right not to be assaulted. So you can use your body as you would like. You can
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even have as much unprotected sex as you want to. But when that leads to the natural conclusion,
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the natural consequence of reproduction, well, then you've entered another sovereign individual
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into the equation. And that human being, just by nature of being a human, has his or her own rights,
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the most fundamental of which is the right to life, the right not to be murdered.
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Every law tells you what you can and can't do with your own body. You can't use your own body to
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violate the speed limit. You can't use your own body to body slam a random person. You can't use
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your own body to steal someone's lunch money. Like, it goes on and on. Come on. Like,
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let's just think for a second, please. And you can't pretend by the way that you are pro-woman if
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you believe in killing future women inside the womb. That's where human rights begin.
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So I don't know if there's very much crossover between the Call Her Daddy audience and the
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relatable audience, but maybe some of you have friends who watch or listen to Call Her Daddy,
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and you can share this episode with them. I just want you to think. I want you to think.
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I want you to be wise. I want you to be discerning. I want you to be smart. I want you to listen to
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things that make you think, that make you smarter, that make you wiser, that make you dig deeper into
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the truth, not things that make you feel good about being stupid and immoral. And that's what
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Call Her Daddy does in many ways. That's what Kamala Harris does. That's what Alex Cooper does.
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Maybe you can respect their hustle in some kind of sense, I guess, but they're hustling lost souls
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to hell. And they're giving you minds of mush and hearts of stone. And I just can't applaud that.
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You're better than that. You're so much better than that. All right. I want to get to an actually
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really interesting interview between Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk. And I don't have time
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to get into all of the different clips that I found interesting. It's a really fascinating
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interview. I don't agree, obviously, with everything that Elon Musk says. I mean, I agree
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with what he says about having children and there being meaning to life and children making you happy
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and all that. This is one example of our almost agreement, but then also what? I mean, because
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he has several children from several different women. I'm pretty sure that he employed IVF and
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surrogacy and those things. And those are just not methods without their ethical issues. And of
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course, he's not always championing the Christian values that I hold dear, but I can appreciate him
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a whole lot. I appreciate a whole lot of what he has championed through Acts, how he has changed the
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game of speech and dialogue and discourse. And in that way, in a very positive sense, potentially
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changed the trajectory of the United States. I mean, I think that he is a hero for that.
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But also, I think that he has some really profound and very close to Christian ideas about right and
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wrong, the meaning of life, and specifically about empathy. I know that he's not listening to Relatable
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and he hasn't read my book because it's not out yet, but I'm like, I want to find a way to send him
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my book because of what he says here in Sop 5. What I see is what I call shallow empathy.
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Like people have empathy for the criminals, but not empathy for the victims of the criminals.
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Yes. And so if you simply have, and I believe one should have deep empathy to say like, what is the
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greater good for society? Is it better to incarcerate violent criminals and prevent them from hurting
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people or to let them loose and allow those people to be hurt? And I think the latter is much worse.
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Yes. What he calls shallow empathy, I call toxic empathy. It is empathy for those that the media
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hoist up as a victim at the expense of those on the other side. This is true when it comes to a man who
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says that he is a woman. You have so much empathy for this supposed feeling of being trapped in the
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wrong body of wanting to finally feel authentic, liberated, like your real self. And you're so
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blinded to everything else because you're only focused on how they feel. But then when you back
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up and you say, okay, but what about these women over here? What about the girl who is now being
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forced to share a locker room with a boy to compete against this man? What about her rights? What about
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her privacy? What about her safety? What about her protection? But then also when we back up even more,
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wait, what about morality or reality? What about true versus false? What about what is scientifically
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real? Empathy can be very dangerous when it blinds us to what is true and what is right.
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And he says a little bit more about this. I want to play one more clip, but let me pause and tell you
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machine learning at netsuite.com slash Allie. Okay. He expounds on this a little more and I think
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it's interesting. Here's thought six. Like I believe in being compassionate about. Of course. I believe
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that we should care about our fellow human beings. I think this is a good thing. Of course it is.
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We should not be selfish and not care about others. We should care about others, but we should just
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care about others, all things considered. Like I said, care not just about the criminals, it's just
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one layer deep. You should also care about the criminals' victims. Yes. Yes. Well, especially the
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criminals' victims. Yes. Innocent people who get attacked and killed.
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Yep. I mean, that's what social justice does. Social justice, criminal justice, racial justice.
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You're always actually supposed to have more compassion, more feeling for the perpetrator of
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crimes than the victims of crimes. And that's why they will cry out, defund the police, and they will
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completely ignore even the black people who are disadvantaged by defunding the police. He said this,
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which I thought was pretty funny in a dark way. He said, you know what'll turn you from a Democrat to
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a Republican pretty fast is getting punched in the face while you walk down the street and then no
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action being taken against those who hurt you. Of course, the same is maddeningly true. Maddeningly,
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maddeningly, maddeningly. Maybe I should just use another adverb. It is also insanely true when it comes to
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immigration. When it comes to Kate Steinle, when it comes to Molly Tibbetts, when it comes to Lake and
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Riley, all of these people had committed violent crimes and had escaped deportation in some cases,
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had escaped being permanently incarcerated as they should have been or permanently punished and banished
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from the country because they are illegal aliens and they're seen as oppressed. They're seen as the
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underdog. And so via misplaced mothering, via toxic weaponized empathy, women and even Christian women
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are manipulated into thinking that caring for the least of these and caring for the most vulnerable
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is to vote Democrat and promote social justice and open borders. You're harming not only the victims
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of these dangerous and chaotic and godless policies, but also the very people that you are claiming to
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help. I'm really glad that Elon Musk is so clear eyed on that. All right, that's it for today. We will be
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back here tomorrow.
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