Peyton McNabb talks about her experience with a male volleyball player at the age of 18, and how it changed her life. She talks about the dangers of Title IX and other policies that allow men to compete in sports as women.
00:00:15.780I will follow the law, and it's a law that Donald Trump actually followed.
00:00:20.900You're probably familiar with now it's a public report that under Donald Trump's administration, these surgeries were available to on a medical necessity basis to people in the federal prison system.
00:00:36.760And I think, frankly, that ad from the Trump campaign is a little bit of like throwing, you know, stones when you're living in a glass house.
00:00:43.640The Trump aides say that he never advocated for that prison policy and no gender transition surgeries happened during his...
00:00:50.160...for what happened in your administration.
00:00:52.200So, basically, a whole bunch of nothing.
00:00:57.060Yesterday, we played the clip of Kamala Harris proudly saying that she championed that policy in the state of California.
00:01:03.520This is not just affecting prison systems, of course.
00:01:07.900We are seeing this in women's athletics as girls in sports are getting seriously injured by male opponents.
00:01:17.980And we have one of those female athletes with us here today.
00:01:24.680She endured lifelong injuries because of a male volleyball player on the opposing team.
00:01:33.760And now, at the age of 18, she is bravely speaking out about the Harris-Biden changes to Title IX and other policies that are endangering young female athletes.
00:04:15.900Player, because there are tall, strong, like, female basketball and especially volleyball players, because height serves you so well in that sport, that it probably wouldn't have been the first thing you thought that, okay, this is a guy.
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00:17:31.200After you were injured and people found out that this was indeed a male masquerading as a female who hurt you, what was the response from your community, your teammates, your school?
00:17:42.640It's just complete support, overwhelming support, actually.
00:17:48.320Everyone has been super good to me about it.
00:17:51.480And I mean, there's like a few people, obviously, that aren't going to agree with you.
00:17:56.040I've, you know, there's been a few friends that I don't really have anymore because of this and just things like that.
00:18:04.400Yeah, because I don't agree and like I get not agreeing with everything someone says, but I don't agree with like stop being friends with people.
00:18:15.180Like these are like lifelong friends I no longer have because of this.
00:19:52.100I believe everything happens for a reason.
00:19:55.500And although it was horrible what happened to me, I think there could be a lot of, I knew there could be a lot of good that came out of it and that it could help maybe prevent this from happening to at least one other girl.
00:20:09.700Um, I think the Lord had a plan for me and although I did try to run from it like as much as I could, cause this is not my comfort zone at all.
00:20:19.520Uh, this is what I was meant to be doing for at least this part of my life.
00:20:23.660And I'm just going to keep pushing until no other girls have to, you know, take, take a loss, a conference loss just because they're afraid or they don't know, they don't want to get hurt in their volleyball game because there's a man on the other team or they don't want to change in front of a man in the locker room.
00:20:43.600Um, like these are just like, I can't believe those are real things and that girls are actually having to face that.
00:20:50.580And it seems like it's a joke, but this is actually reality.
00:20:54.140So it's just truth and that's what I'm fighting for.
00:20:59.300And hopefully we won't have to do it for much longer.
00:21:02.420I think people are starting to wake up.
00:21:09.880I know you don't need me to be proud of you, but courage is contagious and you showing courage puts a lot of people much older than you to shame.
00:21:24.380The courage of someone like you who, you know, as a teenager, you, it's natural to care about what people think and to want to maintain relationships and your reputation more than anything else.
00:21:36.040Cause you have your whole life ahead of you that you've already sacrificed so much for truth is really, really inspiring.
00:21:44.820And so just know that like, I'm hearing your story and I'm thinking about just how God works and how the story of Joseph being thrown into the pit by his brothers, he was sold into slavery after that.
00:21:59.540And what Satan meant to harm him actually concluded in both his good and the good and the salvation of his family and of his people.
00:22:21.840But the North Carolina General Assembly, this was April, 2023, that Fairness and Women's Sports Bill, did it pass?
00:22:27.740So it ended up getting vetoed by our governor, Roy Cooper, which everyone was expecting because he's just like the worst, absolutely the worst.
00:22:37.220And everyone hates him because he's a coward and he sucks.
00:22:43.260And we were just having to work extra hard to be able to override that.
00:22:46.480And there's just been absolutely wonderful people in North Carolina.
00:22:50.520Jennifer Balcombe, Erin Perret, like all those really, really strong representatives that worked so hard and tirelessly on overriding this bill.
00:23:00.060And I'm so thankful that I was a small part of that.
00:23:03.000And I think my story really helped a lot of people be able to vote on the override.
00:23:10.020And luckily, it did become law in August of this year or maybe last year, last year.
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00:24:03.360We've got an entire chapter on this lie that trans women are women.
00:24:07.700We talk about the data surrounding the differences between male and female and male and female performance in sports.
00:24:15.820And we talk about the laws that are in effect and can be in effect to advance the cause of truth and justice on behalf of vulnerable girls and women.
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00:24:45.560Your school and other schools in the area, have they now adopted new policies?
00:24:56.780Is this still something that women's athletics is dealing with on the high school level there?
00:25:04.140I don't think so because now that it's not allowed, I really don't think that anyone can do it anymore, like in the whole state.
00:25:14.060I know for my county at least, like after that happened to me, we were supposed to play them again.
00:25:20.600And my county immediately all got together and voted the school board and we weren't allowed, like none of the schools in the county were allowed to play them for the rest of the year since they had a man on their team.
00:25:32.720So that was a really good, I'm really glad that they stuck up for that at least.
00:25:39.080But yeah, I think that no one really has to worry about that in North Carolina anymore, which I'm so thankful for.
00:25:45.820And hopefully it stays that way and that people are respecting the law.
00:25:51.100Well, as you said, this does seem to be changing right now, not just in the state of North Carolina, but everywhere.
00:25:58.840I wanted to talk about this story with you.
00:26:01.820This was originally reported by Redux back in April.
00:26:05.100I saw Riley Gaines talking about it on X and the headline is NCAA Division One volleyball teams boycott games against San Jose State over trans identifying male players.
00:26:19.020So the University of Nevada Reno became the fifth team to choose to forfeit their match against San Jose State over the trans identifying male.
00:26:27.700His name is Brayden Fleming, who is playing on the San Jose State women's team.
00:26:38.780We, the University of Nevada Reno women's volleyball team forfeit against San Jose State University and stand united in solidarity with the volleyball teams of Southern Utah University, Boise State University, the University of Wyoming and Utah State University.
00:26:56.260We demand that our right to safety and fair competition on the court be upheld.
00:27:01.840We refuse to participate in any match that advances injustice against female athletes.
00:27:09.680But after they released their statement, so this is from the team, the university as a whole, the University of Nevada released its own statement saying, no, no, no, this is not our position.
00:27:23.360We're moving forward with the matches scheduled, basically bullying women into playing against a man, possibly getting lifelong injuries like you did.
00:27:33.340They said the university intends to move forward with the matches scheduled.
00:27:36.640The players may choose not to participate in the match on the day of the contest.
00:27:40.020No players will be subject to any team disciplinary action for their decision not to participate in the match.
00:27:46.140So I am, I'm hoping, I'm hoping that they do boycott because it, the game is on October 26th.
00:27:57.160I hope there's just no woman on that court from the University of Nevada that's playing.
00:28:04.160I think that is absolutely insane that they would choose to publicly release a statement, which they did not have to do that, publicly release that statement basically against their own team.
00:29:04.820People are starting to see it and it's bringing more attention to it.
00:29:07.820And I just cannot be more proud of them because this is what we've been talking about for months and actually probably a couple of years now.
00:29:24.820And I am so proud of what you're doing, what Riley Gaines is doing, what so many of these female athletes are doing because y'all are all contributing to this.
00:29:34.080I mean, it is even, even if someone on that team, the University of Nevada, wouldn't say specifically that Peyton McNabb is the one that convinced her to do this, it all works together.
00:29:46.120Like all of these efforts work together to make something like this happen.
00:29:49.980There's a teammate actually that is speaking out, the starting setter, the co-captain of the San Jose State women's volleyball team.
00:30:00.100She actually, so her name is Brooke Slusser.
00:30:02.480She recently joined the class action lawsuit against the NCAA and has spoken out about her teammate whose sex was hidden by the school for nearly two years.
00:30:12.460So she plays with this male, she has joined a class action lawsuit against the NCAA, basically trying to get them to protect women's sports and say, you've got to have female biology to play.
00:30:26.880Yeah, I mean, what an incredible woman Brooke Slusser is, because I cannot even imagine what in all she's going through speaking out against a teammate.
00:30:38.440Like she's literally having to be around them every single day still and still being able to speak and how wrong it is.
00:30:45.680I just applaud her so much because that takes so much courage and strength.
00:30:50.280But, you know, I'm just so happy that's happening.
00:30:53.140And she's joining the ICONS lawsuit, along with all those other amazing strong athletes.
00:30:59.500And hopefully this kind of just, I don't know what NCAA is doing because we've been saying this and they've just been ignoring it.
00:31:07.600But hopefully this kind of makes them accept that women don't want this and they need to step up.
00:31:14.760Yeah, she was, Slusser, after she transferred from Alabama last fall to San Jose State,
00:31:21.860she was assigned a residence with this guy with Fleming.
00:31:50.860But, of course, when she became aware that, OK, this is a dude, that's when she started speaking out about it, which you're right to be.
00:31:57.700It's one thing to speak out about someone that like you don't interact with.
00:32:01.440It's another thing to speak out against someone that you're seeing every day.
00:32:05.560And Slusser said this, she said, it was more so the school only supporting Blair, this guy, and they didn't really seem to want to check in on us.
00:32:15.180Basically, you shouldn't be the person to identify Blair's gender identity.
00:32:19.580That's something Blair needs to do and not you.
00:32:27.380She said, this isn't just something that Blair is going through.
00:32:30.580This is something that I'm going through, too, and my teammates, I have so many emotions and questions, and I don't know how to voice them.
00:32:37.540It's crazy how when it comes to men and women sharing spaces, sharing teams, all of a sudden the man becomes a victim just when he says he's a woman.
00:32:52.180And I'm really, I mean, so much admiration for her speaking up.
00:32:55.480She said, I might only have three months left of ever playing volleyball.
00:32:59.360I already used my transfer, so I can't transfer again.
00:33:01.940It was either I walk away from volleyball forever or I kind of swallow this hard pill, suck it up and play, do what I can for my team, and protect them any way I can.
00:33:13.460And it's just sad that women are basically being forced to subject themselves to possible lifelong injury or quit volleyball forever.
00:33:24.240I mean, quit their sport forever, the thing that they have been working toward.
00:33:29.980And these women have been working and devoting their whole life to their sport that they love just for it all to be taken away and everyone care more about a man's false reality and feelings.
00:33:42.140It's just like we're all having to play this game like we don't all know the truth and just pretend game when it's like so obvious and it's just almost, it's just crazy.
00:33:53.200And in case people need to be like, need to be like, need to hear this explanation.
00:33:58.980When men play volleyball, whether or not they have long hair and wear lipstick sometimes, they play volleyball with a net that is seven and a half inches taller than a woman's volleyball net because, of course, on average, they are much taller than women.
00:34:14.600And even if they're not, even a short guy, say he's 5'5", like he is still on average stronger than the 5'11 female.
00:34:25.040And there was this study out of actually Duke University, of course, North Carolina that came out a few years ago that explained, had to explain the scientific biological differences between male and female, especially when it came to track.
00:34:39.400And what they found was that Allison Felix, so an amazing track Olympian, who obviously has world records, that her record was beaten thousands of times by 15-year-old boys throughout the United States.
00:34:55.200And they explained that is because of the existence of testicles.
00:35:19.840All of these things, no matter if you go on estrogen later, no matter if you change your name to Sally, once you've gone through male puberty, you have an insurmountable, an insurmountable advantage that can cause injury to women.
00:35:36.180And that is obviously why we separate male and female sports.
00:35:39.820And now we're pretending that someone's declaration just negates that reality.
00:37:23.760The rule took effect August 1st, and for the first time, the law stated that discrimination based on sex includes conduct related to a person's gender identity.
00:37:34.840So that means that these institutions that take this funding cannot tell a male who identifies as a girl,
00:37:43.820you have to go to the separate locker room, you have to go to the separate bathroom, you can't play on this team.
00:37:49.580Alliance Defending Freedom said this about the SCOTUS decision on Title IX.
00:37:55.680They said SCOTUS upheld two key rulings against the Harris-Biden admins' illegal rewrite of Title IX.
00:38:01.380The court denied the administration's request to partially reinstate its new Title IX rule, which would change the meaning of sex.
00:38:09.280And they represent clients in both cases.
00:38:11.700And so thankfully, the Supreme Court made a good decision there.
00:38:17.320And as you mentioned, the NCAA lawsuit via ICONS, that's going on.
00:38:27.660They are representing a broad coalition of female athletes across multiple sports and are suing the NCAA for their regulations that compromise the fairness of women's sports.
00:38:40.320So there's a lot going on on this front.
00:38:46.560I think we've got a lot of people that are working so hard every single day to be able to work on these lawsuits and get these stories out.
00:39:01.360The world is changing right now on this issue.
00:39:04.220And I think I seriously am very optimistic.
00:39:07.460And I really hope that people are starting to open their eyes and just see how absolutely insane this is.
00:39:14.660The Title IX rewrite, that just changes so many things from what used to be such a small, you know, document just explaining that, you know, the basic stuff.
00:39:25.620And now it's turned into just, I think, I don't even know what the number is, just over a thousand word document or pages about Title IX.
00:40:24.600And that's just another big reason why this election matters when we look at what the Harris-Biden administration has done when it comes to Title IX.
00:40:33.180But not just that, like, their health and human services under the Biden administration has pushed even regulations for or recommendations for the transition, so-called, of minors.
00:40:49.320We talked yesterday about Kamala Harris bragging a few years ago that when she was attorney general of California that she pushed the policy that allowed inmates, male inmates who identified as a female, to then be able to transition, get those surgeries on the taxpayer dime and be transitioned into women's prisons.
00:41:40.820And it's just so worldly and, I don't know, I've just always been told that if the world is against you, you must be doing something right.
00:42:50.780Even if I wish she, you know, was more pro-life in certain ways.
00:42:54.240Like, there's, you know, plenty of things.
00:42:56.060But at the end of the day, we've got two choices.
00:42:58.760And I see one set of policies that's going to protect my daughters and one set of policies that is going to purposely put them in harm's way.
00:43:18.380Well, Murphy, which is where I'm from, luckily it just, like, got missed.
00:43:25.400But right beside us on both sides got just extremely devastated.
00:43:29.200I go to school near Asheville, which is where it hit the worst.
00:43:34.280And we've been out of school until, I think, next week we go back.
00:43:37.760So we've been out for, like, three weeks because people have just, it's just devastating.
00:43:42.460It's absolutely heartbreaking to see just how that has affected our mountains.
00:43:48.160And they've just, like, no one's been helping, really, like, at first.
00:43:52.680It was just, we were completely cut off from the world.
00:43:55.200We had no service and no internet, and it was just hard to get to places.
00:44:00.160I mean, people have lost their families, their houses, just everything.
00:44:05.260And it's just been so horrible to see my dad and, like, the fire department and, like, all those different things in our area.
00:44:16.860I've had to go out there and bring, you know, supplies and stuff like that because there's just places that people haven't been able to get to.
00:44:25.660And they can only get from helicopter and stuff like that.
00:44:53.940Like, my cousins, we have cousins in Arkansas who are bringing up, like, supplies and people from home that are bringing up, like, hay and stuff for animals.
00:45:02.720And they were trying to take their supplies and say that they can distribute them.
00:45:08.560Like, FEMA was trying to take their stuff.
00:45:10.460And they had to, like, tell them, no, like, you can't take.
00:52:16.660Like, but he, I mean, Ted Cruz is exactly right.
00:52:19.740He was one of the original sponsors of the Equality Act.
00:52:22.400He voted against H.R. 734, the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act.
00:52:26.680He co-sponsored a resolution to create a transgender bill of rights, and he joined the vast majority of Democrats in the House, signing a letter that urged Congress not to defund a measure providing experimental transgender medical interventions for military members and their families.
00:52:45.420So he not only wants to do that, but he wants our taxpayer dollars to fund it.
00:52:50.280He voted against H.R. 5, the Parental Bill of Rights, which would have simply required schools to notify parents about opening up sports to all, to all genders and would have to, the schools would have to get parental consent before in allowing a child to change their gender markers.
00:53:08.620So Colin Allred is also against parental consent.
00:53:15.160Everyone deserves to live their lives free from discrimination.
00:53:18.100The attacks on trans kids must be stopped.
00:53:23.320He also said Texas should be a place where our young people can be who they are.
00:53:29.420And he said that a Texas bill restricting male and female sports is a dark, shameful moment for Texas as the GOP in Texas is focused on attacking trans students.