Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 109 ｜ Intersectionality & Islam

00:00:00.000 Hello, Relatable listeners. Happy Wednesday. I hope that everyone had a wonderful week.

00:00:05.000 Today, we are going to talk a little bit about what happened between Israel and Hamas or the

00:00:11.560 Palestinian people. And then we are going to go into something that is happening in Pennsylvania

00:00:16.640 with part of the Muslim community there. We are going to transition from that into

00:00:22.560 a religious liberty executive order that Trump passed a few weeks ago. And then we are also

00:00:29.760 going to talk about Pete Buttigieg and his visit to Jimmy Carter at his church, maybe if we have

00:00:36.220 time. So let's go ahead and get started into that. By this point, this happened over the weekend. And

00:00:41.560 so I'm sure you already know what happened between the Palestinian militants and Israel. I'm just going

00:00:47.460 to give you a little bit of a briefing. And then, of course, as we usually do, we're going to look

00:00:51.660 at the media reaction to this and the reaction from public officials and what that says about

00:00:56.820 where we are as a culture and why there is this persistent perspective about Israel around the

00:01:02.420 world and what it really means. So Palestinian militants, a terrorist group, they are largely,

00:01:09.840 Hamas is largely funded by Iran. They fired more than 600 rockets into southern Israel in less than 24

00:01:16.580 hours, killing at least four Israelis and leaving several more in critical condition.

00:01:21.840 Israel retaliated, killing over 28 of those 20 were terrorists in the Islamic Jihad, according to

00:01:28.420 an Islamic Jihad spokesperson. In Gaza, two infants, a 12-year-old boy and two pregnant women

00:01:36.600 were reportedly among the dead. We don't actually know if they were killed by Israeli defense or if

00:01:44.520 they were killed by a rocket misfire. It is important to note that Hamas regularly uses their own

00:01:51.460 citizens as human shields. We don't know if that's what happened in this case, but that is their

00:01:57.200 practice. So like I said, Israel retaliated. Killing about 20 among those killed was Hamid Ahmed Abdul

00:02:05.380 Khudri. I'm just going to say that I said that correctly. He was responsible for money transfers

00:02:10.980 from Iran to militant groups like Islamic Jihad and Hamas inside Gaza. And so that's one of the big

00:02:17.880 differences really between Hamas and Israel is that Hamas regularly targets citizens of Israel,

00:02:26.200 whereas Israel goes after specific terrorists, which of course is how it should be. The latest

00:02:32.480 round of violence began on Friday when an Islamic Jihad sniper fired at Israeli troops, wounding two

00:02:38.020 soldiers. According to the Jerusalem Post, they believe Iran had a hand in this, trying to get Israeli

00:02:43.380 forces to focus on Gaza while Iran continues to strengthen their position in Syria. This is not

00:02:50.180 really out of the norm for that area. Israelis have dealt with this for a long time. Hamas regularly

00:02:56.500 fires rockets at civilian areas throughout Israel. They are currently building tunnels apparently

00:03:03.100 underneath the Israeli border to try to capture and murder Israeli civilians. So you can imagine just

00:03:08.420 kind of the state of terror that a lot of Israelis are living in currently. According to a 2015 CIA

00:03:15.220 report, the Gaza Strip could become uninhabitable by 2020 unless steps are taken to address Gaza's

00:03:21.280 economic and humanitarian situation. This over the weekend was the worst violence between the two

00:03:28.040 sides since the 50-day war in 2014. So that's really not very much time. That's about five years,

00:03:34.260 but this is the worst it's been since then. During the 50-day war, about 1,800 people, a little bit

00:03:40.440 more than that, almost 1,900 people or Palestinians died while only 67 died in Israel. Now, as for the

00:03:48.740 reactions, you can probably guess where people are falling along partisan lines. You have many people

00:03:54.580 on the left who side against Israel. Now, the reasons for that are manifold. It depends on who you are.

00:04:00.520 There are different forms of antisemitism. Some exist on the right. Some exist on the left.

00:04:05.400 But antisemitism, as we've seen, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, as exemplified by

00:04:10.040 the New York Times and some elected officials that we'll get to soon, is very mainstream. It's more

00:04:15.320 sophisticated to be antisemitic on the left. Of course, they say it's anti-Zionist. They say it's

00:04:21.240 just criticism of Israel. But of course, that's not true. They perpetuate Jewish tropes that have

00:04:29.480 been used throughout history by people who truly hate the Jews. I don't need to go into all of the

00:04:34.600 examples of Representative Ilhan Omar perpetuating these kinds of tropes, and Rashida Tlaib as well,

00:04:41.520 two freshman congresswomen. You already know those if you've been paying attention to the news or

00:04:45.620 listening to this podcast. But many people on the left, them included, have different reasons for not

00:04:51.300 liking Israel and particularly not really caring about the death of Jewish people. The funny thing is,

00:04:57.640 you see some of the same people outraged at antisemitic attacks in America, which they should

00:05:02.820 be, when it is at the hands of white nationalists. But when it comes to Palestinian violence against

00:05:10.880 Israel and Israel defends themselves, all of a sudden it's Israel that is to blame for that,

00:05:17.700 that just tells you about the insanity of intersectionality. Jewish people just apparently,

00:05:22.600 according to a lot of people on the intersectional left, don't have quite enough oppression points

00:05:27.400 in order to be cited with in this kind of conflict between Palestine and Israel. Ilhan Omar tweeted,

00:05:34.640 how many more protesters must be shot, rockets must be fired, and little kids must be killed

00:05:39.520 until the endless cycle of violence ends. The status quo of occupation and humanitarian crisis in Gaza is

00:05:46.660 unsustainable. Only real justice can bring about security and lasting peace.

00:05:50.400 This occupation of Gaza is what you are going to see a lot from people on the left. They

00:05:55.340 say it and they don't really know what it means. If you remember that PBS interview done

00:05:59.720 with Ocasio-Cortez, with, I think it was Margaret Hoover, the one that I parodied a few months ago,

00:06:06.420 when Margaret Hoover asked her what she meant by the occupation of Palestine, she just said that,

00:06:12.440 she couldn't actually defend what she said. She couldn't actually explain what she meant by

00:06:17.280 occupation. But you'll see it by a lot of people on the left. What they think they mean by that is

00:06:22.060 that Israel is oppressing Palestine, that they're keeping Palestine from being free, that they're

00:06:26.940 occupying Gaza. That's not really true. Israel left Gaza in 2005. Gaza elected Hamas, this terrorist

00:06:33.980 group, to be their leadership. And unfortunately, for the Palestinian people and for the Israeli people,

00:06:40.020 Hamas has been terribly oppressive, as most terrorist regimes are. So when you hear someone like Ilhan Omar

00:06:46.500 saying the occupation of Gaza, they are blaming the Jews for that. Now, when she says only real

00:06:56.560 justice can bring about security and lasting peace, we don't really know what she means by that. That's

00:07:02.280 probably not a two-state solution that has been offered in the past. And it has been rejected largely

00:07:08.660 by the Palestinian people, by Hamas. And so real justice in the eyes of the Palestinian people

00:07:14.640 is the obliteration of the Jewish people. And we'll get to why that is in a little bit. So what

00:07:19.820 does she mean by real justice? Is that what she means by real justice? Because of course, that's

00:07:24.340 troubling, but would be in line with a lot of the anti-Semitic language that she's used in the past.

00:07:29.500 Rashida Tlaib tweeted. Now, Rashida Tlaib is the freshman congresswoman who she, in her office,

00:07:35.420 had a map of the Middle East. And where Israel was, there was a sticky note over it in an arrow

00:07:41.780 saying Palestine. And so, again, it's, are you saying that Palestine should be replacing

00:07:48.440 Israel? Is that, is that what you're saying? If so, then you are siding with the side of terrorists

00:07:53.720 who believe that it is their God-ordained responsibility to wipe out the Jewish people.

00:07:59.480 So that's who we're talking about when we talk about Rashida Tlaib, the same person who said that

00:08:03.440 we need to impeach the MF-er when she was first elected. As she said, when will the world stop

00:08:08.800 dehumanizing our Palestinian people who just want to be free? Headlines like this, she's talking about

00:08:15.340 a New York Times headline that I'll read. Headlines like this and framing it in this way just feeds

00:08:19.980 into the continued lack of responsibility on Israel who unjustly oppress and target Palestinian children

00:08:26.060 and families. Hashtag free Palestine. So she's saying this in response to this New York Times article,

00:08:32.780 Gaza militants fire 250 rockets in Israel, responds with airstrikes. Well, that's literally what

00:08:37.780 happened. At least as far as we know. I mean, I wasn't on the ground. You weren't on the ground,

00:08:41.940 but all of the reporting that we've been able to see was that they are responding to airstrikes or

00:08:47.440 they're responding to rockets by Palestinian militants. And so it's called chronology. It's

00:08:53.460 not framing it in a certain way. I'm sorry that it doesn't frame it in the way that you would like

00:08:58.620 it to be framed because you believe that Israel doesn't have a right to exist, but that's literally

00:09:04.800 what happened. And as we've already talked about, Israel has a practice of targeting terrorists,

00:09:12.020 whereas the Palestinian militants have a practice of targeting civilians. And so if you want to talk

00:09:17.740 about a side that targets women and children, not just Israeli women and children, but also

00:09:22.240 their own women and children, then you should say something about Hamas. This is what I don't

00:09:27.140 understand. Even if you, which we all should, have compassion for the people of Palestine, even if you

00:09:33.800 don't want them to suffer, which none of us should want them to suffer, but even say you are on the

00:09:38.920 intersectional left and you are on the side of the Palestinian regime or of Palestine in general,

00:09:46.360 and you really do think that Israel is oppressing Palestine, even if that is the case, how hard is it

00:09:52.080 to say that Hamas is in the wrong? Like how hard is it to say that a terrorist group that uses its

00:09:58.340 people as human shields is wrong? Like, shouldn't that be what you're talking about? If you are

00:10:03.700 worried about the oppression of Palestine? I am. I don't want these women and children to suffer. I

00:10:08.640 don't want the people of Palestine to suffer. I believe that they're made in the image of God,

00:10:12.600 that they are equal in worth and in dignity and value. I don't want them to be used as human shields.

00:10:18.960 And I see Hamas, the group that unfortunately was elected a while ago, is exploiting them and is

00:10:25.940 objectifying them and is terrorizing them, their own people. And so if you really care about the

00:10:32.440 oppression of Palestine, why not say something about Hamas? And yet the finger is always pointed

00:10:37.660 at Israel, who is as far as we can tell, again, I'm not on the ground, but as far as we can tell

00:10:44.200 is merely defending itself. It's really crazy how willing, how willing Tlaib and Omar are

00:10:54.160 to really insist upon misinformation to defend known terrorist regimes in Palestine to falsely

00:11:02.860 malign Israel. It's really amazing how closely they have to stick to that narrative. Like I've said

00:11:10.960 before, you can have criticisms of Israel. We can disagree on foreign policy and we can still be in

00:11:16.480 the realm of logic and reason and patriotism. I think that's perfectly fine. I don't think there's

00:11:22.200 anything in the constitution or anything in just any kind of moral compass that says that you are

00:11:32.020 moral handbook is what I was trying to say that says that we have to agree when it comes to Israel.

00:11:37.760 But when it comes to misinformation, when it comes to defending either complicitly or overtly

00:11:44.060 terrorist regime like Hamas, then you've gone outside of the realm of reason. Then you've gone

00:11:49.620 outside of any kind of handbook of morality whatsoever. And then we can't even really

00:11:54.120 have a basic conversation because you insist on misinformation and we're living in two different

00:11:58.800 realities. Like I said, Israel targets terrorists, Palestine targets civilians. They use their own

00:12:06.940 civilians as human shields. There are Muslims who live in Israel. There are no Jews as far as I know

00:12:14.160 who live in Gaza. Extremists in Palestine believe that it is their God-ordained purpose to kill the

00:12:22.300 Jews. Hamas is a terrorist group that boasts in its organizational charter that calls for the murder

00:12:29.720 of every Jew. Israel doesn't have a religious basis for a belief like that. They believe that they should

00:12:36.300 defend themselves, but there is no biblical order for the Jews to obliterate those of other religions

00:12:43.080 that Jews have to follow. So there is a different motivation here. There is a different theology

00:12:49.820 here that is underlying all this conflict. And so purposely misconstruing what's going on between

00:12:55.220 Israel and Palestine in favor of terrorists in Gaza is, yes, it's anti-Semitic. There's really no

00:13:01.400 other way to say that. Like I said, we can disagree, but when it comes to defending terrorists,

00:13:06.460 there's really nothing to disagree on. You're either anti-Semitic or you're not.

00:13:11.120 You will hear all kinds of terminology about the evils of Israel and the occupation of Gaza. And I

00:13:19.500 would just encourage you to double check the facts and to go outside the narrative and to see what is

00:13:25.340 actually true. Certainly don't take my word for it. It's very confusing over here in the U.S.

00:13:31.700 that people could be so ideologically or religiously motivated that they would,

00:13:36.560 um, that an entire country would launch an attack like this. I think it's very hard for us to really

00:13:41.720 understand. It's hard for me to understand. There are many, many details of this conflict that I do

00:13:46.000 not know. There's history there that I'm not completely privy to. There are a lot of people

00:13:51.060 who, uh, are experts and scholars in this and have been studying this for a long time. I barely scratched

00:13:57.120 the surface and my understanding of it. All I know is, um, all, all I know is what I have told you so

00:14:03.920 far and what I can glean from doing my own work in my, my own research. Um, as Christians, our response

00:14:12.280 should be that our hearts break for both Israel and Palestine. As I've already said, both, uh, sides,

00:14:19.280 people on both sides are made in the image of God. They have equal value. They have equal worth.

00:14:23.200 We should feel compassion for both. We should be sad that this conflict is happening. We should ask

00:14:29.020 that the gospel be spread somehow through this, that God would be glorified through this. This

00:14:34.320 really isn't about picking partisan sides. It's about what is true and what is not, but no matter

00:14:39.760 what is true and what is not, we should still be broken for the exploitation of all people for the,

00:14:45.740 for the loss of life and, uh, for the human suffering that's going on there. Uh, this is

00:14:53.180 not about Israel always being right and Palestine always being wrong. Not at all. This is about what

00:14:58.560 actually happened. Uh, this is, uh, about the truth, which right now is that Israel is being

00:15:04.080 targeted by Palestinian terrorist groups and are being blamed for the conflict by people in the

00:15:08.180 West who are deeply antisemitic. That is the truth in this case. And as Christians, we should always be

00:15:12.900 on the side of truth. Uh, it truly is amazing to see how persistent hatred of the Jews has been

00:15:19.260 throughout history and how the Jewish people have outlasted it. It's really, really incredible to

00:15:26.960 watch. And we as Christians should be, um, praying for them always. And we should be praying, uh, for

00:15:33.120 this conflict that, like I said, God would be glorified in the gospel would be shared. Uh, right now

00:15:38.800 there's a tentative ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militant groups in Gaza, uh, that has

00:15:45.260 appeared to have, uh, it was taken hold on Monday morning. This is after the 600 projectiles were

00:15:52.260 fired upon Israel on Saturday and Sunday. According to Arab news reports, the understanding was brokered

00:15:58.260 by Egypt and the United nations. It includes measures to ease acute economic crisis in the

00:16:03.700 impoverished Gaza strip. That's really not going to help anything, but okay. Uh, home to 2 million

00:16:08.560 people. It came with the start of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Um, so the U S fear that this was

00:16:15.360 spurred by Iran. And so it released this press release on Sunday in response to a number of

00:16:20.800 troubling and escalatory indications and warnings. The United States is deploying the U S S Abraham

00:16:26.520 Lincoln carrier strike group and a bomber task force to the U S central command region to send a clear

00:16:32.240 and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on United States interests or on those of

00:16:38.140 our allies will be met with unrelenting force. The United States is not seeking war with the

00:16:44.360 Iranian regime, but we are fully prepared to respond to any attack, whether by proxy, the Islamic

00:16:50.120 revolutionary guard core or regular Iranian forces. So we take this seriously. Uh, Israel has been a

00:16:58.900 faithful ally for a long time and we should stand up to the defense, uh, of our allies. Now, speaking of,

00:17:06.460 speaking of the Muslim community, there was a really interesting story that I first saw in the daily

00:17:11.860 caller. And this is something that happened not in the middle East. It happened here in the United

00:17:17.620 States, specifically in Pennsylvania. There was a video that started going around of Muslim children

00:17:25.020 in an elementary school, and they were singing this song. And I won't even play the video because

00:17:30.080 they're speaking in a different language. You have to be watching it to see the captions. So a girl

00:17:35.340 gets in front of the microphone and she states, this is some kind of recital I'm guessing the

00:17:38.700 students put on for their parents. Uh, we will defend the land of divine guidance with our bodies

00:17:43.900 and we will sacrifice our souls without hesitation. Uh, we will chop off their heads and we will

00:17:48.940 liberate the sorrowful and exalted Al-Aqsa Mosque. I don't know. Mosque. We will lead the army of Allah

00:17:56.720 fulfilling his promise and we will subject them to eternal torture. Uh, the Muslim American society,

00:18:04.400 Islamic center in Philadelphia posted the video to its Facebook for the celebration of

00:18:08.640 Amma day where young children wearing Palestinian scarves, sing and read poetry about killing for

00:18:13.660 Allah and the mosque in Jerusalem. Uh, now the, there was another organization, a Middle Eastern

00:18:19.820 watchdog group who said, these are not isolated incidents. They are happening in major centers of the

00:18:25.300 country, including Pennsylvania. Uh, the video is translated, but at one part in the video,

00:18:31.040 the children sing the land of the prophet Muhammad's night journey is calling us. Our Palestine must

00:18:35.960 return to us. And so this is something that is actually happening in the United States. It's not

00:18:41.600 just happening in the middle East. And so when people say, well, that's just, you know, that's just

00:18:45.520 over there. That's always been an extremist region. No, this is actually fundamental to the Muslim

00:18:50.520 faith. Now that is not saying that every single Muslim believes all of this. That's not saying that

00:18:55.060 every single Muslim is an extremist. I'm not saying that, but we should be very troubled that this

00:19:02.060 kind of deadly ideology is being spoken of and celebrated and glorified by young children in the

00:19:09.040 mainstream media is saying nothing. Do you remember when hashtag exposed Christian schools

00:19:15.500 was a thing and it was going around and there was this, uh, writer, I think maybe for the New York

00:19:20.800 Times trying to get people to send their harrowing tales of their time at Christian schools. And they

00:19:26.620 were freaky people. Everyone was freaking out because Karen Pence was going to work, uh, for this

00:19:31.900 Christian school who, um, who believed in, I don't even know, was it traditional gender roles or biblical

00:19:38.820 marriage? And everyone was freaking out saying, Oh my gosh, Christian schools are so bigoted. People

00:19:43.560 were coming out with all of these stories about how their Christian school believed the marriage was

00:19:48.220 between a man and a woman and how evil Christian schools are. They shouldn't be allowed to teach

00:19:53.120 this stuff. The second lady shouldn't be, uh, working at a school that perpetuates these kinds

00:19:58.440 of hateful ideologies and the mainstream media was all over it. Remember that? Remember how big of a deal

00:20:04.180 that was, that someone was going to work at a Christian school, that Christians actually have

00:20:08.080 Christian beliefs, that Christian schools actually believe in the Bible, that practicing Christians

00:20:13.440 actually believe in the Bible's definition of marriage and the Bible's definition of gender

00:20:18.160 and sex. Oh my gosh, what a scandal. So where are all those people complaining about literally

00:20:24.840 chopping off people's heads and obliterating, obliterating Israel in favor of Palestine?

00:20:31.840 We're not going to talk about that. Why? Because of social justice fueled by intersectionality,

00:20:39.560 because in the social justice left's mind, Muslims have been more oppressed than Christians. They are more

00:20:46.240 intersectional than Christians. And because of that, they, um, they are guarded from any accusations

00:20:53.500 of bigotry. They are guarded from any accusations of having a wrong or fundamentalist religion. No,

00:21:00.080 it is only Christians who are bad because Christians to the intersectional laughter associated with

00:21:06.120 privilege. They're associated with Western values. They're associated with America. Because of that,

00:21:10.840 they associate Christian Christianity with whiteness. And so they assume that Christians are so privileged

00:21:16.380 that they need to be called out for their hateful and bigoted views. When none of that is actually

00:21:22.920 true. You want to know the number one religion that is, uh, most persecuted, the religion that is most

00:21:29.620 persecuted throughout the world. It is Christians by far. Muslims come second, Jews come third, but it is

00:21:34.500 Christians by far who face the most discrimination and who face the most persecution. So it doesn't even make any

00:21:41.600 sense whatsoever to say that Christians are any more privileged than any other group. But like I said, they make

00:21:47.720 these associations that have been perpetuated by postmodern professors in academia that say, oh, well,

00:21:53.800 Christianity is a Western white supremacist patriarchal system in which women and minorities are oppressed and

00:22:01.080 people have used it to justify slavery, blah, blah, blah. All of this, a historical, a theological, illogical

00:22:09.180 jargon is used to justify the hatred and the persecution of Christian people in favor of, in favor of

00:22:19.560 ideologies like the one that we just read at a Muslim school where kids are talking about chopping off

00:22:26.120 someone's head all because of crazy social justice and intersectionality, which is not based on truth

00:22:32.320 whatsoever, which is why I always say Christians don't need to be a part of it. You care about

00:22:36.200 justice. You should care about biblical justice. You should care about truth that is based on reality,

00:22:40.800 not this crazy scale of privilege that was made up by some rando academic like 15 years ago.

00:22:48.340 Why aren't we talking about this? Why aren't we talking about the fact that this stuff,

00:22:52.460 the killing of people is actually being taught and fed to these kids at a young age. These kids don't

00:22:57.880 know what they're saying, but they're starting to believe it. And we're okay with that. We're fine

00:23:03.580 with that. No, thank you. I mean, we're actually talking about killing. Like we're not just talking

00:23:08.740 about, do you disagree on the definition of marriage or like, do you disagree that you should

00:23:14.300 save sex until marriage? Do you disagree on gender roles, whatever, the kind of cultural conversations

00:23:18.940 that Christians have with the rest of the world? We're talking about obliterating people,

00:23:23.180 taking people's physical lives because they are not Muslim. And you won't hear a peep out of the

00:23:28.020 mainstream media because of that or, or on that because of all the stuff that we were just talking

00:23:33.900 about. It is crazy. And honestly, it's pretty scary. It's pretty frightening to think that this

00:23:38.800 is happening in the United States and no one's saying anything. The beautiful thing about the United

00:23:42.920 States is that you can believe whatever you want to believe. There is freedom of religion.

00:23:47.660 There is freedom from religion in the United States. We do have this thing called the first

00:23:51.780 amendment. And so you can be a part of any religion that you want to be a part of until, until your

00:23:59.380 religion starts to actually threaten the lives of other people. Now I'm not saying that these kids

00:24:05.280 are actually threatening people's lives right now. They're just singing songs and we also have freedom

00:24:09.320 of speech. They're not as you know, it may be the line is hairy, but they're not actually inciting

00:24:14.840 violence. And so of course their freedoms are protected in the United States. They should be,

00:24:19.320 but that doesn't mean that that's not something that we should watch out for. Does it mean that's

00:24:23.640 not something that we should pay attention to? I mean, that's pretty frightening if we're perfectly

00:24:27.800 honest. And like I said, I'm very thankful to live in a country where people can believe what they want

00:24:32.780 to believe and say the things that they want to say. But we, especially as Christians need to be

00:24:37.040 paying attention to that kind of stuff. Now on the school's website, it says that its mission is to move

00:24:42.920 people to strive for God consciousness, liberty and justice, and to convey Islam with the utmost

00:24:47.580 clarity. Now that obviously is not being communicated in that particular video, which is pretty scary.

00:24:54.720 I can't even imagine what would happen if you saw a young boy reading out of the Bible, um, something

00:25:01.740 about marriage or something about even just Jesus being the only way, the only truth, the only life.

00:25:08.020 I mean, if that went viral, you would have people just freaking out, tearing their hair out. It would

00:25:14.500 be, it would be crazy. I mean, we saw that with Covington Catholic, for example, when, uh, those,

00:25:20.320 those kids smirked allegedly at a native American man who came marching and beating their drum within

00:25:27.680 their presence. Um, they were terrible white supremacist bigots. Why? Because they were Catholics

00:25:34.680 because they were white, because they were at a pro-life rally, because they were wearing

00:25:39.020 a make America great again hat. Um, and that was everywhere. But in that particular situation,

00:25:45.060 when we saw the longer video, we saw black Hebrew nationalists, uh, lashing out and throwing racial

00:25:51.320 slurs at both groups being completely hateful. And you didn't hear anything about that in the

00:25:57.140 mainstream media. Why? Again, because of this crazy, crazy intersectionality thing. Okay. We only

00:26:02.640 have a little bit of time, but I do want to get into, um, this story because we're talking about

00:26:07.980 religion and freedom of religion. The white house unveiled a rule to protect health workers,

00:26:11.980 religious and moral beliefs. Uh, a new executive order was handed down through the Trump administration.

00:26:16.740 I think I said this happened a few weeks ago. It actually happened at the end of last week.

00:26:20.020 A new executive order was handed down through the Trump administration to help protect the

00:26:24.160 religious liberties of modern day health professionals. Uh, according to the wall street journal,

00:26:28.220 the Trump administration will require hospitals and health organizations to do more to shield

00:26:32.800 medical workers with religious or moral objections to medical procedures, such as abortion assisted

00:26:37.920 suicide and sterilization. Now you've got people like the New York times saying, well, this is going

00:26:42.140 too far. So just because you have some kind of moral or religious objection to it, you can't give

00:26:47.520 someone the healthcare they need. Well, let's think about the opposite of that. Do you honestly think

00:26:51.860 that a nurse or a doctor should be forced, should be forced to carry out an abortion if they don't

00:26:57.460 want to like, you think that's better. What, what do you think is more dictatorial? What do you think

00:27:01.940 is more tyrannical saying, okay, you have a religious or a moral objection to abortion or to sex change

00:27:08.100 surgery. You don't have to do it. That person is free to go to somewhere to go to someone else. I

00:27:12.720 guarantee you there's another doctor that will perform your abortion. There's another doctor that will

00:27:17.520 perform your sex change surgery. Why do you have to force a doctor to do something to which they're

00:27:22.360 morally opposed? It's the same kind of principle that went with Jack Phillips, the cake baker who

00:27:27.160 didn't want to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple. Go find another baker. Don't force or don't ask the

00:27:32.320 government to force someone to bake a cake for you. You can go somewhere else. It's the same thing with

00:27:37.340 this. Of course, people should be free. Doctors should be free. Medical professionals should be free

00:27:42.220 to not perform an abortion or to perform any kind of procedure to which they are opposed. And it's

00:27:50.240 crazy that people are arguing otherwise. There was this whole opinion piece in the New York Times saying

00:27:55.520 that we're going too far with religious liberty. We're going too far with it because people shouldn't

00:28:01.820 be discriminated against or people shouldn't have a service turned down for them if that particular

00:28:07.800 service violates someone's religious conscience. Why? That person is free, like I said, to go other

00:28:15.100 places. But you're going to force someone, you're going to force a Christian pro-life doctor to perform

00:28:20.300 an abortion. But you're saying, I think they would probably say, oh, well, they just shouldn't be an

00:28:25.000 OBGYN. They should be another doctor. Well, what if it's too late? What if they've been practicing for 15

00:28:29.400 years? They don't want to perform. Should they quit? You're saying they should quit because they don't

00:28:34.980 want to perform abortions. That's the kind of government that you think is good. You think

00:28:39.200 that's a healthy society. It's crazy to me. So, of course, this was the right thing to do. Executive

00:28:44.640 orders. The weird thing about them is that, of course, it can be reversed. There have been a lot

00:28:49.680 of executive orders, particularly in relation to abortion over the years that have gone back and forth

00:28:54.840 between Republican and Democrat presidents. And the same thing will probably will probably happen

00:29:01.400 here. The rule establishes guidelines for punishing health care institutions with the loss of federal

00:29:06.460 funds if they fail to respect the rights of such workers. I mean, it's sad that we even have to do

00:29:11.020 this, that we have to say that someone's religious liberty needs to be respected by their employer in

00:29:17.440 this way. But apparently this is what it's going to take, because I guarantee you the left would love

00:29:23.780 to force you to perform an abortion. They would love it. And so, of course, I'm on the side of

00:29:29.260 liberty in this. And I think it was a good move. Do I wish it was not an executive order? Do I wish

00:29:33.820 it was a little more permanent? Of course, but it's probably maybe it's the last resort right now.

00:29:40.220 Now, I wanted to get into Pete Buttigieg visiting Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter still teaches Sunday

00:29:44.480 school at a church. Of course, you know, Jimmy Carter was president. He's a Democrat. He was really

00:29:49.620 one of the first. I don't want to say one of the first, but it was maybe one of the first

00:29:56.800 progressive evangelical Christians that a lot of people do, especially from the South,

00:30:02.880 that a lot of people who maybe weren't progressives still liked. A lot of evangelicals still liked

00:30:09.240 because he was an evangelical. He kind of popularized a lot of, or he brought to the forefront,

00:30:15.800 a lot of progressive Christianity. And so it's kind of fitting that Pete Buttigieg visited him. And the

00:30:21.580 only reason I bring this up is simply because it's something for us Christians who care about the Bible

00:30:26.600 and what God's word says to pay attention to. Pete Buttigieg is going to be spearheading

00:30:31.660 progressive Christianity, and he is going to be the voice of the Christian left, whether we like it

00:30:37.340 or not. And so we need to make sure that we know our theology, that we know our Bibles, and we know

00:30:42.400 the arguments against progressive Christianity, which we've talked about in the past.

00:30:47.260 I think that's all we're going to talk about today. Yes. So right now I am in the midst. I just

00:30:54.580 wanted to let y'all know, my cat actually just jumped up here and is saying hello to me, but I

00:31:00.200 just wanted to let y'all know that I am right now in the midst of recording content for you guys

00:31:04.240 for, uh, for the summer after I have my baby, she's due at the end of June, but you are going to have

00:31:11.800 all the content in your life that you need. And I'm actually really excited about the series that I'm

00:31:16.360 doing. Um, it's going to be really informative and I think really productive for you guys. And so you

00:31:22.380 have a lot to look forward to a lot of the questions that you guys asked me about, like

00:31:25.520 women in the church, what are Christians roles in politics? What about predestination?

00:31:30.240 What is Calvinism theological and political things? You've asked me about Medicare for all you've asked

00:31:36.040 me about, uh, a lot of the subjects that you hear the democratic candidates talking about. Um, I'm going

00:31:41.320 to answer all of those questions this summer. It's going to be awesome. So you're going to learn so much,

00:31:45.660 even when you're out of school. And even when you're at the pool, I didn't even mean to rhyme,

00:31:50.360 but I did just for you. Okay. I hope that you have a great rest of your day and I'll see you here on

00:31:53.840 Friday.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - May 08, 2019

Ep 109 ｜ Intersectionality & Islam

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