Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 31, 2024


Ep 1093 | Trump’s Tariff Plan & How He’ll Lower Inflation | Guest: Ron Simmons


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41 minutes

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181.64789

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7,628

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623

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

On today's episode of Relatable, my dad joins me to talk about how he's feeling about the election and why he thinks it's going to be a good one. We also talk about the importance of early voting and why you should vote early in order to make sure your vote counts.


Transcript

00:00:00.760 What are Trump's economic policies versus Kamala Harris's? We've got people like Mark Cuban saying
00:00:06.880 that Trump is going to kill small businesses. Well, my dad is here to make the case that it
00:00:10.840 will be the exact opposite, that you are going to have more money in your pocket if Trump takes
00:00:16.800 office. We will also be contrasting the two sets of foreign policy. How is this going to affect
00:00:23.900 our lives? And also, how is my dad feeling about the election? Is it going to go our way? We've got
00:00:30.480 all of that and more on today's episode of Relatable. It's brought to you by our friends
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00:00:50.040 Dad, welcome back to the program. Thank you. I'm glad to be back. You know,
00:00:52.940 I got my pink shirt on today because it's Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Okay. And, uh, you know,
00:00:58.620 with mom, what mom went through and she's doing great, but we don't ever want to ever want to
00:01:02.900 forget that. Yes. That is so true. Um, okay. We also have an election coming up. Oh yes, we do.
00:01:09.260 I know next Tuesday. I've already voted. So you have, I know I have too. Okay. This is going to come
00:01:15.440 out on Thursday. And so people can still early vote. Would you recommend if people haven't voted
00:01:21.480 yet that they go out and vote right now? Oh, absolutely. Cause you just don't know what's
00:01:25.060 going to happen on election day. You know, you may have an emergency or, you know, something could,
00:01:29.600 you know, there could be a weather issue. You just never know. So please, yeah, go ahead and vote.
00:01:34.020 If people want to find out information about how they can vote in early voting in their state,
00:01:39.600 do you know where they can go? Well, the best place is just to Google or just to search for that and
00:01:44.460 just say, um, early voting in Smith County, Ohio. It'll, it'll tell you that. It'll usually send you
00:01:50.840 to the, most counties have an election administrator's office that takes care of all that. It'll send you
00:01:56.200 to that. What about people who are, they just don't think their vote's going to count. They live in a
00:02:00.820 blue state and they're thinking, what does it matter if I vote? Oh, I'll tell you what matters. It
00:02:04.920 matters, especially in the down ballot races. And those are the ones that the government is the closest
00:02:11.180 to you. So you need to make sure that you, I really encourage people to vote ballot from the
00:02:16.180 bottom up, because if you don't, I know that on our ballot, several of the races were uncontested,
00:02:22.900 but the very last one, the constable was a contested race. And if people just had all these
00:02:28.960 look uncontested, they wouldn't have voted on that. So yeah, it makes a big difference locally. So
00:02:33.880 please vote all the way down the ballot and make sure you vote to start with. And some people get
00:02:40.020 really confused, understandably, by the language of these amendments and measures that they're voting
00:02:44.740 on. And we did an episode just going through some of the biggest amendments that we see across the
00:02:49.980 country and how I would vote on them and why. But where is a good place to get real accurate
00:02:56.140 information about, for example, Amendment 4 in Florida? Of course, the first thing that comes up
00:03:01.420 when you search is, oh, this is just protecting miscarriage care, which is not really true. It's
00:03:06.380 allowing abortion through all nine months. Do you know where people could go to get the truth?
00:03:10.740 Well, virtually every state has a conservative think tank, you know, just a policy oriented
00:03:17.580 organization. And they're different names. In Texas, it's the Texas Public Policy Foundation.
00:03:22.580 But if they will just search on the internet for a conservative think tank in Wisconsin,
00:03:27.680 there will be one there. In Michigan, it's the Mackinac Institute. So just search for that,
00:03:33.000 and they will have an analysis of those. An explanation. Yeah. I'd encourage you not to
00:03:37.620 go to your local newspaper's analysis because sometimes those carry bias. Also, the Heritage
00:03:43.460 Foundation themselves probably have an analysis of some of the largest ones like you talked about
00:03:48.320 the other day. And if you are in a Republican-led state, usually your government, your governor,
00:03:56.080 will probably have some information. Like Ron and Casey DeSantis have been traveling their state
00:04:01.480 so persistently telling people that Amendment 4, Amendment 2, they're bad news, vote against
00:04:07.900 them. So that could be some information too. That's true. Today, I want to focus on economic
00:04:12.700 policy. It's not something that we've focused on a ton on this show. And I've heard mixed things,
00:04:20.380 as you can imagine, about Trump's economic policy, even from some conservatives saying, for example,
00:04:25.900 that his tariff policy is actually just going to cost Americans a lot of money. It's going to
00:04:32.400 exacerbate inflation. Can you explain that for us? Sure. I can be happy to. Well, first of all,
00:04:37.900 let's talk about what a tariff is. Yes. A tariff is when you are bringing in goods from another country
00:04:45.280 that you add a percentage cost to that. Let's say it's a good that costs a dollar and you want to add a
00:04:51.980 10% tariff. It'll cost a dollar 10. And you're charging that back to the country or the company
00:04:58.440 that put that in here. All right. And that's called an import tariff when you're importing it.
00:05:04.460 Now, export tariffs really happen on the other end, on things that we export to say China, Canada,
00:05:12.160 Mexico, wherever they are, they add a tariff. Now, the funny thing is what people don't want to talk
00:05:16.920 about is that China adds a tariff on virtually every product that we've been sending them for decades
00:05:23.600 and other countries do too. Like if we want to send a bourbon whiskey to Scotland, they charge a
00:05:32.520 tariff on that because they're trying to protect their Scotch industry, right? Their own whiskey
00:05:37.380 industry. Okay. So that tariff makes the product more expensive in Scotland. Yep. And so people would
00:05:46.020 be incentivized because of the price difference between American whiskey and Scottish whiskey to
00:05:51.160 keep buying Scottish whiskey. So they're trying to protect their own industry. That's right. And
00:05:55.960 protect the jobs that go along with that. Now, the interesting thing about what happened when Trump
00:06:01.020 imposed the tariffs on goods from China, and this can happen, is that because that had a negative
00:06:07.960 effect on the Chinese economy, all right, is that the Chinese dollar, I think they call it the Yan
00:06:15.560 Yan went down in value and the U S dollar went up in value. That means that if, if before those
00:06:22.860 tariffs, if a, if a U S dollar could buy a 10 Yan. Okay. In other words, convert to 10 Yan that after
00:06:31.460 that, a U S dollar converted to 15 Yan. So therefore the interesting thing is because our dollar was worth
00:06:38.660 more, the price impact of us putting the tariff on those Chinese goods had no effect on the ending
00:06:46.060 price here. Cause our dollar bought more of those. We could buy a hundred thousand hats. Okay. At
00:06:52.720 actually a much cheaper price than we could before the tariff. So it's really an interesting,
00:06:57.740 uh, very interesting scenario. Now I get it in that, that the theory would be that, uh, okay, well,
00:07:04.560 if you, if things are going to be higher, that's like a tax on people and all that type of stuff.
00:07:08.960 But what Trump has said is because China has done so many tariffs against us and they still are
00:07:16.500 intellectual property. This is all a negotiating trade technique by him, right? And that's what he
00:07:21.540 does. And he started having some of those tariffs on Mexico. Remember when he was in there and he lifted
00:07:28.100 those tariffs once they closed the border. Now, of course, uh, Biden removed those tariffs. Now,
00:07:33.780 interestingly enough, Biden kept all the tariffs on China. Now, why did he do that if they were so
00:07:38.840 bad? Yeah. He kept all the, because he knows that they actually did work in that scenario.
00:07:43.540 So do we currently have, we currently have tariffs that were implemented by Trump that were maintained
00:07:49.380 by Biden that now Democrats are saying are so terrible. Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah. That's
00:07:54.860 exactly what happened. And of course, uh, Kamala Kamala, I can't remember her name. She
00:08:01.160 doesn't even mention those. She doesn't talk about that. And of course, nobody asked her about it
00:08:05.700 either. Well, she, and she has also kind of put herself in a pickle there because she simultaneously
00:08:10.700 says on the view, there's nothing that I would change that Biden did, including Afghanistan,
00:08:16.360 including, you know, forcing companies to force people to take the vaccine. She said she wouldn't
00:08:21.460 change any of that. And I guess that would include the tariff policy. If she says she disagrees with it,
00:08:26.820 well, then she's going against Biden. Yeah, that's right. That's right. They're not going
00:08:30.680 to move that. No matter who wins, they're not going to move that tariff policy.
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00:10:00.140 What else is Trump proposing that is different than what's happening right now economically?
00:10:06.260 Well, he's proposing a couple of things. One, he's proposing that we actually reduce the tax on
00:10:13.000 corporations from 21% to 15%. And the reason that's important to you and I, even though we're not a
00:10:20.700 corporation, is because corporations pass their costs down to the end consumer. So when Kamala talks
00:10:27.200 about raising the corporate tax to 28%, which would be a 40% increase, do you think the corporation is
00:10:34.860 just going to say, oh, I'm just going to reduce my profits for that? No. They're going to pass that
00:10:39.000 on down to you and I as the end consumer. All right. That's exactly what's going to happen. And so
00:10:44.100 Trump is talking about reducing that. She's talking about increasing it. Currently, of the 2017
00:10:50.680 tax rate reductions, okay, which put our income taxes between 12% and 35%, depending on the income
00:11:00.860 that you make, she wants to move to let the 2017 ones expire, which they're said to expire at the
00:11:07.540 end of 25. And then she wants to raise the top rate back up to 39.6%. So essentially 40% over a
00:11:15.640 certain amount of money. So, uh, and again, uh, and if you and I are small business owners, cause you,
00:11:22.340 you know, you and Timothy are small business owners, I'm a small business owner that the way small
00:11:27.600 business works is your bit, your income that flows from your business down to you is taxed at whatever
00:11:35.620 your rate is. So if, if you have a successful business, you could definitely have some of that
00:11:39.900 tax at the 40% rate. Well, isn't she just making sure that the rich are paying their fair share and
00:11:47.740 helping the most vulnerable? Well, the top 1%, as you know, already pay almost 70% of all the taxes that
00:11:54.220 are paid in the United States. So I think they've probably done their fair share as far as that
00:11:58.900 concerned. What we really need to go to is a more simplified tax bracket to where maybe there's two
00:12:04.220 rates. You pay say 15 to 20% up to a certain amount. And over that you might pay 25 to 30%. That would be
00:12:11.200 the simplest thing to do. And that everybody pays taxes. Everybody that makes a dollar of income
00:12:16.760 pays tax on that dollar of income. And that way you could have lower tax rates for everybody.
00:12:21.700 Yeah. Mark Cuban says that Trump's economic policy is going to be terrible for small businesses. Here's
00:12:27.280 thought 16. I don't think he pays attention to the details and he can't be pressing United States.
00:12:33.580 Unless you pay attention to the details. Yeah, that's fine. If he wants to, you know,
00:12:37.340 just give speeches in random places for random reasons. But to talk about such significant policy
00:12:43.520 like tariffs, much less foreign policy. He doesn't realize the impact, but literally he is going to put
00:12:50.580 who knows how many small businesses out of business. He is applying a machete when a scalpel
00:12:57.300 is what's necessary. Okay. So again, she's not pointing out that those tariffs currently exist
00:13:03.340 under her administration. Is it true that tariffs are going to put small businesses out of business?
00:13:08.840 Well, let's just look at her overall economic plan versus his. And this is by the tax policy foundation,
00:13:17.880 okay. Dot org, which we can go and see. And there's a printout, which I printed out and that her,
00:13:23.600 her plan by this bipartisan group is going to call 786,000 jobs, 786,000, her economic plan,
00:13:33.080 which would include whatever she's going to do on tariffs and everything. Trump's plan would
00:13:37.660 increase it by 600,000 jobs. So, I mean, what they're both saying and Mark Cuban in this scenario
00:13:44.800 is just a sycophant. He just is trying to say whatever agrees with her.
00:13:48.840 And it seems like to me, I wonder if it has to do with China for him.
00:13:53.480 Well, it may, it may have something to do. That's part of the NBA's outreach, as you know.
00:13:57.820 Remember LeBron James and his China thing? And you can't, you know, you can't say anything
00:14:02.860 about China. That's a big market over there. And believe me, Mark is more concerned, which he,
00:14:08.940 he talks about Trump being more concerned about his own fortune and fame than he is about anything
00:14:15.620 else. No question. No question about, you know, he also called Trump a fascist, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:21.200 And you know what a fascist really is? A fascist really is someone that wants state control of
00:14:27.040 everything. That's what they want. Okay. And not the individual. And actually Trump is just the
00:14:32.860 opposite of that. Okay. He, he, he said that, you know, he talked about being the enemy within is
00:14:38.340 what Cuban use that number. Of course, Trump's simply talking about the deep state, like the,
00:14:43.880 like the weaponization of the FBI and the department of justice.
00:14:47.180 And illegal aliens who are committing crimes.
00:14:49.320 And he talked about military, right? Going to put the military, uh, Cuban says he's going to send
00:14:54.580 the military to your house. Well, no, it was talking about using the military when there are riots and
00:15:00.380 they are, they are killing people and, and vandalizing property. That's all. And that's what
00:15:05.200 he should do. And then finally, mass deportations. And the only mass deportations really that have
00:15:10.380 been specifically talked about are of criminals. Now we've got other issues in addition to criminals
00:15:15.500 because everyone that's crossed the border has, has technically broken the law. In fact, I don't know
00:15:20.400 if you heard this or not, but after the hurricane that went through St. Petersburg, Florida,
00:15:24.000 they arrested 45 people for looting. 41 of those were illegal aliens.
00:15:30.440 Wow. And you know, we played the montage of Kamala Harris on yesterday's episode of saying
00:15:35.600 over and over again, that crossing the border itself is not a crime, which would mean if that's
00:15:41.100 the case, then that person's not illegal and you can't deport them and you can't prevent them
00:15:46.000 from committing that crime. And that's the thing about every crime committed by an illegal alien
00:15:50.100 is that it's preventable. Absolutely. Yeah. They weren't here. It wouldn't happen.
00:15:53.800 Yep. So that's who Kamala Harris is. What else about Trump's economic policy do you think people
00:15:59.380 should know? Most people are just thinking, how does this affect my groceries? I know you already
00:16:03.420 talked about, you know, lowering the corporate tax rate, some of the other things that he's going
00:16:07.580 to try to do to help make it easier for people to live. What else do you see?
00:16:11.900 Well, he's going to increase the child tax care credit. Okay. Which I think is a, which is a good
00:16:16.720 thing to do. And a credit is different than a deduction. Okay. A credit means that if you have
00:16:21.620 a thousand dollar credit and your taxes were $2,000 before the credit, they're only a thousand
00:16:27.160 dollars after it's a direct write-off. A deduction is being, if you're, if your income is 400,000 and
00:16:33.140 you have a deduction of a hundred thousand, that means you're only paying tax on 300,000, but it's not
00:16:38.460 a true credit. Okay. So credits are more impactful. Okay. That he's proposing that, which actually his
00:16:44.020 daughter came up with in this last first administration, the idea about that. He's also proposing that we
00:16:49.860 allow a deduction for interest paid on auto loans. For a lot of people, especially renters, their biggest
00:16:57.440 debt is their car. And you know how much cars cost these days are very expensive. And right now, the
00:17:03.540 interest that you pay on that loan, you can't deduct that from the income on your taxes. So in the future,
00:17:10.120 let's say that you had a car loan and that $2,000 a year of the loan was interest. So if that person
00:17:18.160 made $50,000 a year, they would only have to pay tax on 48,000 of that, which would therefore lower
00:17:24.140 their tax bill. The other thing is no taxes on tips. Yes. Which for the restaurant industry, that's a big
00:17:31.680 deal. You know, the restaurant industry pays their waiters and waitresses less of the minimum wage.
00:17:38.460 They're allowed to do that because they consider tips in that calculation. And so right now the tips,
00:17:45.540 they have to assume how many tips they got, and then they have to pay tax on that, including
00:17:51.440 social security. And he would help those restaurant workers by not charging tax, not allowing tax to be
00:17:59.840 paid, not having tax paid on that. Of course, Kamala has adopted that already. We've got this
00:18:04.760 clip. So let's play this. This was on June 9th. Trump saying no tax on tips. So this is the first time
00:18:12.640 I've said this. And for those hotel workers and people that get tips, you're going to be very happy
00:18:17.720 because when I get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips, people making tips.
00:18:25.120 Okay, here is Kamala Harris on August 10th. Saw 18.
00:18:32.740 Including to raise the minimum wage
00:18:35.560 and eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.
00:18:43.840 Trump said he's going to send her a MAGA hat.
00:18:46.180 Yeah, because she adopted that policy. Good for her.
00:18:50.000 Good for her. Raising the minimum wage, is that something that's smart economic policy?
00:18:55.900 Well, I think there's been some tests of that done in California and Oregon and Seattle,
00:19:01.020 and has it worked?
00:19:01.880 Nope.
00:19:02.160 Because what happens is, is that two or three things can happen. One is you have to raise the
00:19:08.400 prices of your goods. So therefore you don't sell as much. People don't buy as much. And the other
00:19:12.840 thing is that you're, you end up reducing the hours of your workers because you only have certain
00:19:19.580 amount of money that you can pay wages for labor. And so therefore you start, people don't get as
00:19:25.920 many hours. So they really don't make any more money doing that. It just is not a failed system.
00:19:31.420 It's just not a successful system.
00:19:33.040 It can definitely lead to increased unemployment. All right. Anything else about the economy before
00:19:38.020 we get into foreign policy?
00:19:40.360 Yes, there is one thing. So, and this is really important because you'll, you'll hear this is that
00:19:45.560 Harris's economic plan will increase the deficit over 10 years of 3.4 trillion, which incidentally
00:19:53.480 is less than what her and Biden have done over the last four years. Now, Trump's will also increase
00:20:01.140 the deficit by 2.5 trillion. However, let's look at what that means. Her 3.4 trillion is happening all
00:20:09.720 because she's increasing taxes and spending more money, right? It's all on spending. The reason
00:20:16.740 Trump's increases the deficit is because he is cutting taxes. Well, if he's decreasing taxes,
00:20:23.020 where do you think that money's staying? Yeah. It's staying in mine and your pockets to make a
00:20:28.020 decision on what we want to do, whether we want to give it to charity, whether we want to set some
00:20:32.540 money aside for our kids in school, whether we want to get a new car. So there's a whole big difference
00:20:37.000 between increasing the deficit through reducing taxes or increasing spending. Believe me, as
00:20:42.020 individuals, you want it to be in decreasing taxes. And that is a huge difference that I haven't heard
00:20:48.560 anybody talk about. Yeah. I didn't know that. That is really important because usually you just hear,
00:20:53.340 well, they're both going to be big spenders because the deficit is going to go up.
00:20:57.860 And they probably will. But here's, here's the other secret weapon. If he follows through on it,
00:21:01.180 I believe Elon Musk, if he, if he sets him up on the department of government efficiency,
00:21:07.420 I absolutely believe that he'll find a lot of inefficiencies and cuts.
00:21:13.800 I am so grateful for Elon Musk. I mean, I was happy when he took over X, that was a game changer.
00:21:19.060 I didn't expect him to be as outspoken for Trump and for conservative ideas as he has been,
00:21:25.340 especially over the past few weeks. I think that's, I mean, that's amazing.
00:21:29.240 It is amazing. And I think what the reason is, is that he probably socially more progressive,
00:21:34.980 obviously, but the Democrat party has just driven him away. They've just demonized him. Right. And
00:21:41.140 he realizes that the key to innovation and success is allowing people to be able to do that without
00:21:49.820 overburdening them. You know, the work that he's done with SpaceX and other things where he has to
00:21:54.860 kind of get into that regulatory environment. I think he's learned at what a diminishing effect
00:22:00.660 it can have on innovation. Yeah, I think so too.
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00:23:18.680 Okay. On foreign policy, you know, Harris is in an interesting position. She's lost some Muslim
00:23:28.740 support. They're traditionally Democrat, but with the Israel-Hamas conflict going on and she has kind
00:23:37.680 of towed the line and she has at least outwardly said that she supports the state of Israel and its
00:23:45.200 right to defend itself. But at the same time, Trump has an unprecedented amount of Jewish support
00:23:52.800 because we talked about this yesterday, but many Jewish Americans do not trust Kamala to seek the
00:24:01.220 interests of Israel at all. But also Muslims don't trust her because they think that she's on the side
00:24:07.440 of Israel. So she's kind of in this a little bit of a tough position. What do you think she will
00:24:13.600 actually do though, if she were in office? Well, I think she'll do very little. I think she will
00:24:20.060 try to pressure Israel to do a ceasefire, you know, and then hopefully Hamas will release the
00:24:28.900 hostages. But the chances are the hostages, I hope they're all alive, but the chances are it could be
00:24:36.120 like the other ones they released and those, you know, they released the bodies. And she's going to
00:24:41.300 try, she's going to probably try to do that. But what that's going to do, it's going, if it follows
00:24:47.020 through, it will weaken Israel. And she already has a bad relationship with, you know, Netanyahu and
00:24:55.540 what have you, in my opinion, because they've tried to, you know, they held up a bunch of weapons that
00:25:00.960 we were going to sell them because they didn't want them to do an attack, like 3,800 missiles or
00:25:07.080 something like that. And that, I mean, that's just, that's not, I mean, there's only one group
00:25:12.080 at fault in this, only one group. And it's Hamas that attacked them on October 7th. Israel didn't
00:25:18.880 provoke that. Right. Okay. And the fact that they killed 1,200 Israeli civilians, right? Yeah. The
00:25:26.980 reason that any Palestinians have been killed that are not military are because the military hides
00:25:33.480 behind them. Yeah. All right. So quit hiding behind them, you coward. It's nothing but cowards. It's
00:25:39.120 all that they are. Yeah. And, you know, I'll tell you one thing. My money is almost always on the
00:25:45.760 IDF, the Israeli defense fighters. I mean, they, they know what they're doing to come up with a deal
00:25:52.580 on the pagers and those drones that went in there and found that one guy. And they somehow programmed
00:25:58.960 5,000 pages to go off. I have no idea how they do that. They detonated and killed nine people.
00:26:04.460 Now, what I will tell you though, is that when I went to, mom and I went to Israel a few years ago,
00:26:08.780 and we were there on a legislative mission and they, they took us behind the scenes at some of
00:26:14.200 their cybersecurity stuff that they do. And you can just see that the technology and the things that
00:26:20.260 they innovate are just out there. I mean, they, a lot of the, when they leave the military, a lot of
00:26:27.600 those people end up setting up companies that use technology that for, that was developed for
00:26:33.000 military reasons for civilian reasons. Yeah. Good ones. And what is America's role? Because we do
00:26:38.560 see that Israel, as you said, is, is pretty strong itself, has a lot of capabilities. And there's been
00:26:45.620 some debate. I even think good faith debate between conservatives about America's role in defending
00:26:52.900 Israel. Like how far do we go? What does that look like? What do you think? It's the only true
00:26:58.360 democracy in the Middle East. Yeah. So we, I think we are not only are we bound morally, you and I would
00:27:05.180 agree morally that we're bound with that, but I think for stabilization, we're bound as well. We need
00:27:10.720 the Middle East to be stabilized and we need a democracy over there to do that. And, you know, a lot of
00:27:17.460 countries, as you notice in the Middle East are not having much to say about this war. You don't hear
00:27:22.800 much out of UAE, Saudi Arabia, even Jordan. You don't hear much out of them because at the end of
00:27:29.780 the day, they know that's a good thing as well. Would it be fair to say that under Trump, we did have
00:27:36.240 unprecedented stability, not perfect stability, but with the Abraham Accords, didn't it look like
00:27:42.420 things were trending in a good direction? Well, that's what I was going to talk about really.
00:27:45.380 And of course, you know, Trump was at the top, so he gets the credit or the blame, but Jared Kushner
00:27:50.700 was key. His son-in-law. Yeah. A lot of conservatives don't like Jared Kushner. You know, I know. I don't
00:27:56.640 really know, but. Well, he negotiated those Abraham Accords. Yeah. Now Trump was involved in it too,
00:28:01.820 but he was the one that got the people together and that's unprecedented. Nobody's ever been able to
00:28:08.000 do that before. And I think we were on our way to do more. That's something Biden and Harris should
00:28:12.880 have continued. That wouldn't have hurt anything. And they didn't do it. Now, I also think Trump was
00:28:18.140 smart to pull out of the Iran deal. Yeah. Because the Iran deal did all we did. We flew over all this
00:28:25.640 money to them. And then we also opened up a bunch of bank accounts that we had frozen for them.
00:28:30.700 And we said, you can't use that for, you know, any weapons or military. Of course.
00:28:36.340 That's what Obama did. That's what Obama did. That was the Iran nuclear deal. And then Biden went back
00:28:39.740 into it as well. That's right. And then when people talk about pallets of cash, that's what
00:28:43.380 they're talking about. That Biden or Obama, this was apparently a peace deal to try to appease them
00:28:49.600 and say, okay, we'll send you a bunch of money. Just don't use it on your nuclear weapons, please.
00:28:53.440 But it's the same thing as when Planned Parenthood takes, you know, 500 million tax dollars a year
00:28:57.740 and it's not used on abortion. Well, money is fungible. That's exactly right.
00:29:02.380 I mean, there's no way to track it. There's no way to track that. That's exactly what happened
00:29:05.940 there. If I hold up two $1 bills, they look the same. Yeah. If I do like this, they're still the
00:29:10.900 same. You know what I mean? So that's exactly what happened. And so they are most experts in
00:29:16.860 the world will say they're closer to a nuclear weapon than they've ever been. And it's not because
00:29:22.020 Trump backing out. It's because the money and the lack of sanctions that Obama and Biden did.
00:29:28.680 And how did the whole Afghanistan debacle affect the Middle East or the stabilization efforts that,
00:29:35.980 you know, Trump put in place in the Middle East?
00:29:37.640 I think the Afghanistan thing made us look weak and that we pulled out our troops. We abandoned
00:29:45.440 people over there that helped us. And that lets us know that we were not there to have a long-term
00:29:55.860 stability. And in any time that you leave, even, you know, it was, it was 13 or 30, I forget exactly
00:30:03.100 the number, but it doesn't matter how small that number is. You don't, you don't do that to your
00:30:07.180 troops. You just don't do that. We pulled out in weakness. I mean, did not we learn anything from
00:30:12.180 the evacuation of Saigon in Vietnam? I know most of your listeners won't remember that, but if you
00:30:17.760 remember those pictures where they were hanging on the helicopter, you know, stabilization things and all
00:30:24.300 that, it was just awful. And that's exactly what it looked like in Afghanistan. It was embarrassing.
00:30:29.600 Yeah. And 13 American service members died.
00:30:32.360 For no reason.
00:30:33.120 And as far as we know, they have not been honored in any way by the Biden-Harris administration.
00:30:38.360 Yeah, as far as I know. And I don't think they ever, I don't know if they talked to their parents or
00:30:42.120 any other, yeah.
00:30:43.220 Well, those families, they ended up making this montage video in support of Donald Trump because
00:30:48.260 Donald Trump, I think, came to a service honoring them and Biden was invited to that and didn't show
00:30:55.540 up.
00:30:56.300 Yeah. Biden's a bad person.
00:30:58.060 Yeah.
00:30:58.600 He and Kamala both are not good people. And it's a little bit like your, some of your episodes
00:31:04.980 this week in that, you know, and I, there are demonic forces at work. There just are. Okay. If
00:31:11.920 people don't believe that, then they're just being fooled. All right. And that is, that's the way it
00:31:17.980 is.
00:31:18.480 What else do we need to know about these candidates, this election? What's at stake?
00:31:22.660 Well, I think what, I think what we need to know is this is a true, a turning point. If, if,
00:31:29.040 if Kamala is elected, we're going to head down an even more ultra progressive role than we head
00:31:36.360 down. Abortion up until the end. That's her number one issue, as you know. She has no limits on
00:31:41.900 abortion whatsoever at the federal level, which would make it impossible for Texas or Tennessee
00:31:46.020 or to, you know, Kentucky to restrict abortion. They'll do as much as they can. And that there's
00:31:50.780 no question about that. You got to plan on her. If she's in there, if she gets elected,
00:31:55.000 it's for eight years, not for four. Yeah. Okay. That's the way things generally work. All right.
00:31:59.440 You had to plan on that. So you give her eight years at least some point in that time, she's
00:32:04.320 going to have control of the both the house and the Senate way those go back and forth. The other
00:32:08.400 thing is the sexualization of our children and being able to take the parents out. There will be,
00:32:14.160 you know, there will be no parental control over abortion, no parental control or consent over
00:32:20.540 gender, gender type care. And then the other thing I think that we'll see is a huge increase in the
00:32:27.760 entitlement state where they will continue to give away more and more to, to advise votes, including
00:32:36.200 amnesty for the 14 million illegals that they've let in in the last four years. That's what you're
00:32:42.520 going to get under Kamala. All right. In my opinion. And I just want to add on, I just want to add on
00:32:46.900 to that before we move on to Trump, because just to double down on some things that you've said,
00:32:52.320 the Equality Act, for example, that has been sitting and floating around in Congress for a long
00:32:56.840 time. That is Democrats like pet legislation, Colin Allred, the guy who's running for Senate in Texas
00:33:03.180 is a big supporter of the Equality Act. There are lots of things that it does. Like, for example,
00:33:08.200 it could make it a crime to so-called misgender a person in a workplace. It could force religious
00:33:13.960 organizations to have to assent to this new definition of marriage and gender. It also takes
00:33:22.480 away any religious exemptions for an OBGYN who say, does it want to perform an abortion or even Catholic
00:33:29.380 hospitals who don't perform abortions? They would actually be forced to, or they would be forced to
00:33:34.320 close down or no longer be an OBGYN. So that's Kamala Harris. When they say that they care about your
00:33:40.140 constitutional freedoms, they don't. They care about abortion. They care about sexual degeneracy.
00:33:45.580 They care about taking away parental rights. In Kamala's home state of California, Gavin Newsom,
00:33:51.080 passed the law that says, if you do not affirm your child's new stated identity, you will lose custody.
00:33:57.540 That's what she believes. She is part of the administration who is putting pro-life
00:34:01.680 protesters like Bevelyn Williams and Joan Bell, who's a 74-year-old grandmother with diabetes,
00:34:06.500 in prison. So this is rewarding evil and punishing good. That's what you'll get from Kamala Harris.
00:34:12.820 And they're also going to try to pass legislation or certainly executive orders on hate speech.
00:34:17.800 And so most of the things that you say on here would consider to be hate speech because you disagree,
00:34:22.040 agree. Yeah. Which is totally irrational under our constitutional system. Yep. Hate speech is free
00:34:29.900 speech. And you can't depend on the Supreme Court to fix everything for you. Yeah. Well, they want to
00:34:34.620 pack the Supreme Court. They want to expand it. Yeah, of course they want to. And pack it because they
00:34:38.660 don't like that the Supreme Court does check on power. I just saw the news that came out that the
00:34:43.720 Supreme Court ruled, I think it was 6-3, that Virginia, the Commonwealth of Virginia, does have a
00:34:49.860 right to purge its voter rolls of non-citizens. They were sued by the Harris-Biden DOJ over that.
00:34:56.780 And I wonder which six versus which three it was that were against that. Yeah. Hmm.
00:34:59.740 Yeah. I bet I could guess. Yeah. Because they're always predictable. Yeah. So under, yeah,
00:35:04.300 unfortunately the conservatives are not. Yeah. That's because they actually go by principle.
00:35:08.640 But under Donald Trump, I think what you see, you see a return to what happened between 2017
00:35:12.200 and 2021 from an economic standpoint, which was some of the best economic times in history. You know,
00:35:18.800 he left there with a little over 1% inflation. Real wages were up for every classification,
00:35:24.260 including black men, black women, Hispanic men, Hispanic men, white men, white men, all of those
00:35:29.040 categories, real wages were up. I think you'll see a much more stable energy market. You know,
00:35:35.660 he is the, he's what I believe in the drill, baby drill. We have a lot of, of, of that type of
00:35:41.740 energy that's available. And a lot of that energy is actually clean energy, right? Natural gas is clean
00:35:46.940 energy. And I think you'll see the removal of some of the credits for solar and wind, which
00:35:52.600 wind can be a real problem. You know, I don't know if you've read about the, the whales that have
00:35:57.800 washed up on the New Jersey beach and they really believe that the vibrations has essentially driven
00:36:03.960 them insane. You know, just like, did you hear Donald Trump on 18 different whales? And I read it
00:36:08.480 somewhere else. Did you hear what he said about it? He said on Joe Rogan, he was talking about that
00:36:12.760 exact thing. And he said, he wants to become a whale psychiatrist because the whales are being
00:36:18.000 driven crazy. He was like, yeah, it'd be a good market. Something probably messes up their internal
00:36:21.360 system because they go by, you know, sound waves. Yeah. It's cool. Who knows? And I also think what
00:36:26.540 you're, I think what you're going to have is you're just going to have more independent freedom. It's
00:36:30.740 going to be a one term. Uh, but he will, he will, I think he will, uh, make sure that we have good
00:36:37.960 arrangements with our allies as well as our enemies. All right, y'all. I am so excited about
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00:37:09.440 election night. Go to blaze election.com slash alley. Okay. How are you feeling about the result of the
00:37:21.600 election? This is Thursday. Hopefully we'll know something by next Wednesday, right? Hopefully.
00:37:27.940 Yeah. Are you going to call me at midnight like you did in 2000 and say, have mom call me and say,
00:37:32.820 tell me who's one. Yeah. So she'll go to sleep. And you had to, you had to lie to me. You might
00:37:36.840 have to lie to me this year too. Maybe your daughter will be a part of that. But next time she probably
00:37:40.880 will be. Yeah. Uh, you know, I feel good about it. I really do. I feel, uh, you know, you never know,
00:37:46.980 uh, you can never know what Trump's going to say or do in the next, uh, next week or what's going to,
00:37:51.560 you know, I don't think there's going to be an October surprise. I think we've already been there.
00:37:55.240 Uh, but I real, I feel really good. Here's what I think will happen. Yeah. Either Harris will win
00:38:00.500 by a very small margin. Okay. Or Trump will win by a big margin. I don't think he'll win by a small
00:38:06.860 margin. I think it'll be, and there's something to momentum in campaigns. Yeah. Right now he has
00:38:12.420 the momentum and he's generally under polled by three or 4%. Yeah. And so I'd say all of those
00:38:20.060 things are good for him. And I'm not a big, I'm certainly not an election denier, but I do believe
00:38:25.880 that there can be some tricky things that go on in some of these big cities. So I'm so glad
00:38:31.420 that heritage foundation and the Republican national committee, they have a host. I mean,
00:38:37.580 a huge number of people that are on the election integrity side. They're going to be at all of these
00:38:42.400 voting sites. They're going to make sure things are counted properly. You know, it's much more ready
00:38:48.300 this time than last time. The other thing I think Trump's going to do, Ali, as we finish up
00:38:52.080 is I think he'll be smarter about who he selects. And he's talked about that. He actually admitted
00:38:57.920 making mistakes on people. Yeah. I saw that. Which I've never heard Kamala Harris admit one mistake.
00:39:03.940 She wouldn't even want to apologize to the parents of the people that were killed by illegal aliens.
00:39:09.720 No. Well, we were just talking about that yesterday about the Washington times came out with this
00:39:14.480 expose, talked to her family members and former staffers. And we know that, you know, you can only
00:39:19.260 take those kinds of testimonies with a grain of salt. That's true when it comes with, uh, to Trump
00:39:24.380 too, but person after person and the parents of the interns that she had when she was in state office
00:39:29.860 in California to say that their children, I mean, their kids, adult children, you know,
00:39:34.160 were just emotionally abused. She just berates her staff. She's not a nice person. We never hear stories
00:39:39.680 of her kindness or friendship or hospitality over the years. Like we hear about Donald Trump.
00:39:44.080 I think that she is probably personally very cruel and vindictive. That's not the kind of person
00:39:50.240 that you want in office. I saw the other day, let's see if I ended up taking a picture of it
00:39:55.340 because I just hear Trump so much. And I never hear Kamala saying this. I hear Trump so much talk about,
00:40:02.260 um, his love for the country and just his desire to see the country do well. And when I was at Liberty,
00:40:11.320 they have all of these old books in a house where I was staying. And one of them, um, were maxims by
00:40:17.860 George Washington. And so here's what he said. And I think we have to think about this. Maybe not every
00:40:23.900 candidate will fit perfectly into this, but this is what you ideally want in a president. He said,
00:40:28.480 in every act of my administration, I have sought the happiness of my fellow citizens. My system for
00:40:34.180 the attainment of this object has uniformly been to overlook all personal, local, and partial
00:40:38.940 considerations to contemplate the United States as one great whole to confide that sudden impressions
00:40:44.680 when erroneous would yield to candid reflection and to consult only the substantial and permanent
00:40:51.480 interests of our country. Now we don't talk like that anymore, but basically it is a kind of just
00:40:57.020 genuine love of country and love for your fellow citizens. Whereas we have Biden right now who is
00:41:02.740 calling Trump supporters garbage. It's, it's unbelievable. I mean, it really is unbelievable.
00:41:09.440 Yep. So I'm hoping and praying for the best. That's right. And God is in charge. He is totally
00:41:16.360 in charge. We're the workers. Yeah. Harvest it's his. Yeah. And you're doing good work. And a lot of
00:41:23.760 your listeners I know are out there. They are talking to their friends, getting them to just
00:41:27.640 make sure that you get your family and friends out to vote. That's the number one thing you can do.
00:41:32.800 Drive them there if you have to. We're kind of beyond the argument stage. Get them out to,
00:41:36.840 get them out to vote. Yes. But on the way, maybe try to make sure that they're voting the right way.
00:41:43.100 That's true. If not, take them to McDonald's. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Thanks so much, Dad.
00:41:48.460 Fred, we'll have you back on after the election for all of the post-election analysis. Well,
00:41:52.960 thank you for having me. I've never sat down with a New York Times bestseller before.
00:41:56.540 Well, there you go. It's the first time for everything. Very proud of you. Thank you.
00:41:59.200 All right.