Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 110

00:00:00.000 Hello, Relatable listeners. Happy Friday. Hope everyone has had a wonderful week today. We

00:00:06.820 usually do, you know, on Fridays, we usually do an interview or we do a Q&A or we do something

00:00:11.180 like that. But there's so much going on in the world of abortion pro-life versus pro-choice this

00:00:16.840 week that I wanted to cover that. There is a lot of misinformation like there usually is surrounding

00:00:22.040 this conversation. I want to talk about the Georgia heartbeat bill that just passed that

00:00:26.720 Governor Kemp signed into law and the back and forth that we're getting about that. I want to

00:00:31.540 point out a few of the craziest things that the pro-choice left has said this week, and then we'll

00:00:35.860 kind of break it all down. It's going to be a good, productive episode. Let us talk about the craziness

00:00:41.640 that is going on this week in the conversation and the discussion about abortion. Many members,

00:00:49.520 it seems like recently, this has been going on for a while, but they're just at the forefront. Many

00:00:54.060 members of the pro-choice left have officially lost their minds. Like they might've been on the

00:00:58.780 highway of reality. They veered off right into crazy town and they are just living it up and

00:01:03.860 randomly they'll pop back in into our world and they'll say something crazy. And you're like,

00:01:08.320 what are they teaching people over in crazy town? Well, we've got some examples of that today. So

00:01:13.620 the reason why we're talking about it so much this week, we kind of, it feels like every month,

00:01:18.200 there's another big thing that happens. Uh, the governor of Georgia, as I said, Brian Kemp signed into,

00:01:24.040 law, a bill that bans abortion after six weeks, or when a heartbeat is protected, sometimes it's a

00:01:31.640 little bit earlier than that. Uh, so to do this, the bill, which is online, I'm going to post a link

00:01:36.840 of the bill in the description of this podcast. So you can read it for yourself. Uh, the bill defines

00:01:42.280 an unborn child, uh, with a heartbeat as a person. Now I want to distinguish something, uh, that I think

00:01:50.120 is often missed in the discussion about abortion, a human being or human is a scientific term. It is

00:01:57.000 a precise term. A person is a philosophical and a moral term. Uh, so human being describes what you

00:02:04.380 are, what species you are person describes what you are worth or your value. So personhood ascribes

00:02:11.720 meaning and value to a human being. Uh, scientifically, there is no question about whether or not a child

00:02:18.940 inside the womb, either at conception or at nine months gestation is a human being. She is a human

00:02:24.400 being. Like there's, there's no question about that. That's a scientific term. Uh, two human beings

00:02:29.360 have never conceived any other species or object besides a human being. It is a human DNA. It has

00:02:36.900 human DNA. She has human DNA from the moment the sperm meets the egg. Okay. So it's a human being

00:02:43.400 from the get go. There's no question about that. So any pro choicer who says to you that a child inside

00:02:48.780 the womb is not a human being or it's not a human life is just quite frankly, being idiotic. What

00:02:54.220 they mean is that they don't believe philosophically or morally that that human being is actually a

00:03:00.680 person, which means that they don't believe that that human being inside the womb, the unborn human

00:03:05.920 has value the same way that you or I do. And we noticed this in the New York law, uh, that was passed

00:03:13.280 a few months ago that we talked about extensively on this podcast that legalized abortion through all

00:03:18.160 nine months for any reason that fell under the broad umbrella of quote health of the mother.

00:03:22.660 That means mental health, emotional health. Uh, this bill redefined or this bill that got signed

00:03:28.380 into law redefined a person to mean someone who is already born. So that means a man who kills a

00:03:35.460 pregnant woman is charged with one murder murder of the pregnant woman, not with two murders. Uh,

00:03:40.720 if she and the unborn child die, he is only charged with the murder of the mother. Or if a man

00:03:46.300 beats a pregnant woman, for example, the mother survives say the beating, but the baby dies,

00:03:51.720 he will only be charged with assault. He will not be charged with murder. Uh, this has already

00:03:56.100 happened in New York since the law was signed. Uh, and if you don't believe me about what this

00:04:01.360 law covers, you can go back and listen to my episode I did at the time called calling evil

00:04:05.480 good, where I read directly from this bill. Um, so the defining of personhood in any abortion

00:04:13.120 legislation is very important. Uh, personhood is how we ascribe value. It is how we decide then

00:04:19.400 punishment for crimes. So in New York, uh, an unborn child is not a person. He, she does not

00:04:25.820 have the value in the, have value in the eyes of the law in Georgia. Now an unborn child is a person

00:04:31.980 beginning when the heartbeat starts. As I have said before, I actually think that that's the wrong

00:04:38.060 definition of personhood because, uh, placing personhood on a human being anytime after conception,

00:04:45.260 anytime after life scientifically begins is arbitrary. And I just am not sure who we think

00:04:51.340 that we are as subjective human beings to decide that personhood happens anytime other than when a

00:05:00.440 human being starts being a human being, which is at conception. Uh, so I always say to be safe

00:05:05.600 from, uh, from the most logical and the most moral perspective, we should say that personhood starts

00:05:11.700 when human life begins, which is at conception. But, but as I've also said before, Georgia had to do

00:05:18.280 this because it was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme court to completely outlaw abortion. So if

00:05:25.240 Georgia had defined unborn children as people from conception, all abortion would then have to be

00:05:30.800 logically banned and they can't legally do that. So they had to start as early as possible while not

00:05:36.320 banning abortion completely. That means defining a person as early as six weeks instead of zero,

00:05:42.080 uh, morally and logically that doesn't make any sense, but legally it was necessary. Uh, so we're

00:05:48.500 hearing a bunch of craziness about this. I remember the celebrities that a few weeks ago said they wrote

00:05:54.180 this letter and they said they were going to boycott the state. You know, our great moral arbiters,

00:05:58.300 Ben Stiller, Alyssa Milano, Amy Schumer, they warned Georgia that if you pass this draconian bill,

00:06:04.860 then we are going to boycott the state. And basically Brian Kemp by signing this was like,

00:06:10.660 okay, whatever. Um, the women's March sent out an email. I get women's March emails. Cause I think

00:06:16.140 they're funny to read. So now in the email saying, this is like the handmaid's tale. This is something

00:06:21.100 they love to say. They love to compare everything that happens to the handmaid's tale. Uh, you have

00:06:25.860 people say that they're scared for women, uh, busy Phillips. She went on her, uh, talk show and said,

00:06:32.420 you know, she had an abortion when she was 15. It was a, you know, it was a sad story and she was

00:06:36.320 being genuinely transparent, vulnerable, whatever. Um, she said she's scared for women, but the question

00:06:41.800 is, should we really, does this bill necessitate being scared for women? And of course the question

00:06:47.380 is what of the unborn child? Do we talk about them at all? Are we fearful for them? Apparently

00:06:52.180 not, but we hear that the world is ending from all of these people. They are saying that women are

00:06:58.560 going to be criminalized for having miscarriages. Uh, they're not going to get the life-saving care

00:07:03.780 that they need. That's why they call this a healthcare crisis for women, but none of that

00:07:08.800 is true. So according to this bill, which like I said, is linked, uh, in the description of this

00:07:13.460 podcast and abortion is still permitted. If the doctor determines the physical life of the mother

00:07:18.320 is at risk. So according to this law that they're saying is the end of the world, uh, an abortion is

00:07:23.860 still permitted. If the doctor determines that because of some abnormality, the child will be

00:07:29.320 unable to sustain life after the child is born. I don't really like that provision because a lot

00:07:34.220 of times the doctors are wrong. And just because someone might be disabled, doesn't mean that they

00:07:40.340 shouldn't have a shot at life. So, but that is a provision of this bill. A miscarriage in this bill

00:07:44.760 does not count as an abortion. It specifically says that, uh, you can abort in the case of rape

00:07:49.980 or incest up to 20 weeks, according to this bill. Um, and let's see. Oh yeah. Okay. So that's it. So

00:07:57.400 those are the provisions of this bill. This bill that people are saying is going to outlaw all healthcare

00:08:02.740 for women. It's just not true. It's misinformation. It's fear-mongering on purpose. Like I said,

00:08:08.240 please go read the bill and fact check me if you would like. So all of this that we're hearing about

00:08:13.260 this being the end of the world, uh, is simply about a woman who does not feel like being pregnant,

00:08:20.360 has nothing to do with health, has nothing to do with a woman who was raped. We're not talking about

00:08:25.760 incest here. We are talking about only women who do not want to be pregnant. They do not feel like

00:08:32.320 being pregnant. So the whole thing about, Oh, well, what about a rape or incest? That is irrelevant.

00:08:39.860 According to this bill. Uh, the only question to ask those who oppose this law is why do you think

00:08:47.080 it's okay to kill a child inside the womb for the sake of convenience? Because a woman doesn't want

00:08:51.280 to be pregnant. Why? Well, why do you think that that's the only question someone needs to answer

00:08:56.340 to be able to defend this? Is it because the baby is small? Is it because the baby is in the mother's

00:09:01.120 body? Is it because she can't survive on her own? Is it because the baby is at an early stage of

00:09:06.140 development because she might have a bad life or she might be poor or any of those justifications

00:09:11.780 for killing a child inside the womb? Uh, all of the characteristics that I just lifted, the listed,

00:09:17.000 the location of the baby, the stage of development of the baby, the size of the baby, the future of the

00:09:22.880 baby, all of these things can be applied to people outside of the womb. So are we going to start applying

00:09:29.320 those characteristics to people outside of the womb as justifications for killing them? Most post-choice

00:09:33.920 people would say no. Now, of course you've got Peter Singer, the bioethicist who said, who says,

00:09:39.300 yes, uh, children outside of the womb should be able to be killed because they don't have any,

00:09:44.020 they're not self-conscious. That's how he defines personhood and they don't really have any concept

00:09:49.540 of the future. And so he says infanticide is totally fine. Well, if you take that to its logical

00:09:54.800 end, you're saying, okay, people with, with Alzheimer's, people with severe disabilities,

00:09:59.220 if that is the definition of personhood, if it's something other than just being a human being,

00:10:04.740 uh, then it becomes completely arbitrary, becomes completely, uh, subjective. And that is how you open

00:10:10.960 the door to eugenics. That's not a slippery slope. That is called logic. That's called deductive

00:10:15.920 reasoning. Um, and at least Peter Singer is evil as that idea is that he perpetuates, at least he's

00:10:22.200 being honest. But most people, when they give these reasons for why a child inside the womb

00:10:27.460 should be, should be able to be killed without any kind of legal protection whatsoever, um,

00:10:34.860 unwantedness, size, location, development, dependence on the mother. Well, all of these

00:10:40.500 things in one sense or another can be applied to people who are outside of the womb, depending on

00:10:45.060 their station in life, depending on their disability, depending on how old they are, depending on how big

00:10:50.280 they are. Are you saying that we should kill those people too, because they don't match your standard

00:10:55.820 of what counts as a person or not? Of course not. Of course not. Even the most pro-choice person

00:11:01.620 probably can't really bring themselves to say that, that that applies to everyone. The bottom line is

00:11:07.760 it's for convenience. It is for desire. So tell me why it is okay to kill a person simply because

00:11:15.800 you want to, in what other context is that morally permissible, not for self-defense, but because you

00:11:22.680 don't want to deal with that person anymore. When is that ever? Okay. Uh, the only reason,

00:11:28.480 if you're honest with yourself as a pro-choice person, the only reason that you want to permit

00:11:33.680 killing the unborn is because you can get away with it legally, uh, because the baby can't fight back.

00:11:40.960 And the mother is typically the only person who can ultimately save the baby and who ultimately

00:11:46.840 will stand up for the baby. And if the mother's not going to do that, we have decided no one else

00:11:51.500 has the right to do that either. And there's nothing the baby's going to do about it. That

00:11:55.800 mother's not going to be, no one's going to seek retribution for the mother. You can get away with it

00:12:00.900 because these babies are vulnerable. They can't defend themselves. They can't stick up for themselves

00:12:05.120 and no one else is really going to be able to stick up for them either. At least not in a legal,

00:12:08.840 tangible way. And so let's just do it for the sake of convenience. This is exactly what happens when

00:12:14.120 a society replaces the God of the Bible with the God of self. The only standard of morality is what

00:12:20.460 you want. The only standard of morality is living your true self and finding your own happiness. And

00:12:25.980 if that means killing your unborn child, then go for it. That is the standard of morality that we now

00:12:32.120 have. So whether it's taking a pill to poison the child, whether it's injecting them, uh, with a

00:12:37.260 chemical that causes them to have a heart attack and die, whether it's starving them of amniotic

00:12:41.280 fluid, then dismembering them with forceps. Uh, we're apparently as a society, uh, a segment of

00:12:48.440 our society, not everyone, but a segment of our society is okay with that. There's no nonviolent

00:12:53.840 way to kill a child inside the womb, by the way. Uh, and the pro-choice side has okayed all of that

00:12:59.840 in the name of autonomy and the name of reproductive rights, whatever that means in the name of freedom

00:13:05.080 in the name of health. When in reality, abortion has nothing to do with any of those things.

00:13:09.940 Uh, it has to do in the vast majority of cases with convenience. Uh, that is why in order to

00:13:18.000 embrace this position, you must, you must, whether you know it or not, you must become both heartless

00:13:25.480 and brainless in regards to abortion. Uh, in order to justify your defense of this in your mind,

00:13:31.120 you have to exit the realm of reality. You just, you have to, um, and here are two examples of this

00:13:36.360 happening. First comes courtesy of our sweet girl, Congresswoman from New York, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

00:13:45.340 known affectionately as AOC. Here is her tweet. She says in response to this law that was just,

00:13:53.540 or this bill that was just signed by governor Kemp, she says, quote, six weeks pregnant, as if that's not

00:13:59.380 like an accurate description, he puts it in quotes, six weeks pregnant equals two weeks late on your

00:14:04.460 period. Most of the men writing these bills, most of the men, she says, writing these bills don't know

00:14:10.860 the first thing about a woman's body outside of the things they want from it. It's relatively common

00:14:15.920 for a woman to have a late period plus not be pregnant. She loves the plus sign. So this is a

00:14:20.540 backdoor ban. She goes on to say in the next tweet, that tweet, by the way, had like 400,000 likes on it.

00:14:26.020 She goes on to say for context, this kicks in within days of a typical at home test working.

00:14:32.060 That's not true. If you were sexually assaulted, stress delay cycle, took a morning after pill,

00:14:36.920 throws off cycle or having a regular cycle, you'd have no idea. There are a ton of ways this law

00:14:43.420 ignores basic biology. I think that I could probably do an entire episode on everything that is wrong

00:14:50.200 with this tweet. To AOC and many on the pro-choice left, this is all pregnancy is. So let's start with

00:14:59.180 that. An unborn child to her is just a missed period. Because again, when we talk about pregnancy or

00:15:06.020 when we talk about abortion to the left, the only significant person involved in that equation is

00:15:11.080 the mother. The child is completely hidden. It's completely ignored. They're completely obfuscated.

00:15:16.500 They're just a late period. So technically guys, right now, I know that a lot of you guys thought

00:15:21.900 I was pregnant. Actually, that's not, that's not really accurate. According to AOC, I'm just 33

00:15:28.080 weeks late. I don't know if you knew that. And technically I'm about 1400 weeks late. That's all

00:15:33.820 I am. I'm just a very well-developed clump of cells, but a 1400 week late period. And y'all are

00:15:40.880 probably around the same, the same time. Just, we just happened to develop into clumps of cells that

00:15:47.280 happened to develop into human beings. That's, that's all that happened guys. I also love how

00:15:53.260 AOC thinks that she is the medical expert here, but the men, she says, apparently it's only men who

00:16:00.120 wrote this bill. The men who wrote this bill, they're just so savage. They're so archaic. They're

00:16:08.140 so, uh, they only want to take from women. That's all they want. They don't know anything about a

00:16:14.400 woman's body. I like how she thinks that she knows more about pregnancy than men whose wives have had

00:16:21.200 kids girl. I guarantee you don't. And she also ignores the fact that there's people like me who

00:16:26.720 support this bill. There are thousands of women, if not hundreds of thousands, millions of women

00:16:32.080 who support a bill like this, who guess what? AOC have actually been pregnant sometime in their lives.

00:16:37.760 And some of them have actually had kids and they know a lot more about gestation and fetal development

00:16:42.680 than you do. And, but you are the expert here. 29 year old Ocasio Cortez. You are the expert. You

00:16:49.920 think that, you know, more than all of these people who have been around a block around the block,

00:16:54.120 a few more times who have had a few more life experiences than you have. You think that you are

00:16:59.680 the one who knows everything about pregnancy. And you're going to tell us that being six weeks

00:17:03.760 pregnant is just a couple of weeks late on your period. Thanks so much. Thanks so much for

00:17:09.900 your expertise. But she has to do this. She has to exit the realm of reality. She has to deny that

00:17:17.220 there are women who support the bill. She has to deny that a child with a heartbeat whose facial

00:17:23.240 features are developing at six weeks old is more than just a missed period. Then she has to say that

00:17:28.720 pro-lifers are the ones denying biology. It's hilarious. It really is. If it wasn't so sad,

00:17:33.820 it would be funny. Uh, also she adds in the sexual assault thing, ignoring that this bill

00:17:38.740 actually makes an exemption for women who have been raped, but this is what AOC does with everything

00:17:45.160 that she talks about. She says something sassy. She says something that is partway true, but is

00:17:50.120 actually completely misinformed. And if you criticize her, it's not because she's wrong. It's not because

00:17:56.480 she should have stated it differently. It's because she's a young woman of color, not because she

00:18:00.740 should actually change anything about herself. That is the AOC formula in everything she talks

00:18:05.300 about. Uh, but it's not just her. This denial of reality is becoming integral. If it hasn't already

00:18:11.500 been integral to the pro-choice argument, uh, here's a woman named Christine Quinn on CNN with Chris Cuomo.

00:18:18.660 When a woman gets pregnant, that is not a human being inside of her. It's part of her body.

00:18:24.700 So not a human being, not a human being. She says, so as we already covered in the beginning,

00:18:30.400 this is just scientifically untrue. Like you're not going to find a scientist or a doctor who would

00:18:36.080 say that a, that a fertilized egg is not the beginning stages of a human being, no matter where

00:18:43.200 they stand politically, it's not going to result. That fertilized egg is not going to result in

00:18:49.200 anything other than a baby. Like that's it. It might end in miscarriage, but it's not going to

00:18:54.520 be a coffee mug. She's not going to be a goat. She's not going to turn into a cabbage guys.

00:18:58.980 She's going to be a child. She is going to be a boy or a girl. Might I add, but in order to justify,

00:19:05.520 um, this argument that it's okay to kill a child, they have to exit the realm of reason and reality.

00:19:12.720 But on Twitter, Chris Cuomo seems to think the opposite is true. So he says the pro-life position

00:19:19.860 is more about faith and feeling than fact. I'm sorry, Chris Cuomo expert on this stuff. Do you,

00:19:27.780 do you want to tell me what facts I'm missing out on? Like, I would love to hear from you what facts

00:19:33.620 pro-lifers don't know about gestation or fetal development or the abortion procedure. Can you tell

00:19:38.500 me what happens in an abortion procedure? Can you explain fetal development? Do you know what's

00:19:43.360 happening to an unborn child at six weeks old? What facts are we not privy to? What facts can

00:19:49.440 Chris Cuomo let us know about that would change our position from pro-life to pro-choice? Please let us

00:19:54.680 know when in fact the opposite is true. The, the pro-choice movement is our, the pro-choice idea is

00:20:01.720 simply based on this arbitrary subjective idea of when a human being becomes a person. And it's entirely

00:20:07.560 based on individual convenience, because you'll see that they will say that a baby is not a human

00:20:13.540 being when the baby is unwanted and the mom wants to abort the child, but they'll go to a baby shower.

00:20:19.040 They'll, they'll celebrate their friend having a baby or being pregnant with a baby. They don't wait

00:20:25.520 until the friend is 25 weeks pregnant to say, Oh my gosh, you're pregnant with a child. It's no,

00:20:30.520 you're having a baby. So if you want to talk about cognitive dissonance, let's talk about being pro-choice

00:20:35.800 that apparently personhood depends on whether or not you're wanted. That sounds a lot like feeling

00:20:41.640 to me. That doesn't sound like fact, but Chris Cuomo has no idea what he's talking about. If you

00:20:48.000 watch the exchange between him and it was Rick Santorum, I believe, and Christine Quinn about

00:20:53.140 abortion, like the guy gets so frustrated and so flustered because he doesn't even, at one point he

00:20:59.700 tells Rick Santorum to Google it because he can't even tell you what a child is inside the womb. If

00:21:06.260 not a human being, of course you can't, of course you can't, you crazy person, because it is a human

00:21:11.760 being and everyone knows that. Like I said, you've got to exit the realm of reality and reason in order

00:21:18.520 to say that it's not. And that is what they're willing to do to justify this position of killing

00:21:23.120 unborn children. It's crazy. It is absolutely crazy. But of course, Chris Cuomo has to do that

00:21:28.740 because his brother, Andrew Cuomo, is the governor of New York who signed this atrocious, hellacious

00:21:34.200 abortion bill into law. So he has to defend him. I'm sure he has also convinced himself somehow

00:21:40.100 that he is still a sterling Catholic and is morally right, even though he believes that human beings

00:21:46.900 inside the womb aren't worthy of life at all. The truth is, is that he's bought into the propaganda

00:21:52.200 and a lot of people have. Propaganda makes you crazy. Uh, further evidence that many people on

00:21:58.020 the pro-choice left have downright, I wouldn't even say on the pro-choice left, just pro-choice in

00:22:04.060 general, have downright lost their minds. Uh, Brian Sims, you can look him up on Twitter. He is a state

00:22:12.080 rep from Pennsylvania and he thought it'd be totally cool. He thought it'd be fun, I guess, to film

00:22:17.140 himself harassing a woman in front of a Planned Parenthood in his district. Here's a little clip of that.

00:22:22.480 You're out here shaming people for something that they have a constitutional right to do.

00:22:26.480 Who would have thought that an old white lady would be out in front of a Planned Parenthood

00:22:29.600 telling people what's right for their bodies? Shame on you. And then he didn't get enough. He didn't

00:22:35.700 get enough of that. He thought that that was so awesome and heroic that he then did the same thing

00:22:40.500 to a group of teenagers, tried to dox them, said that he would give someone a hundred dollars to give

00:22:45.380 the identities of these teenagers peacefully, peacefully, quietly, even at this point,

00:22:51.360 standing outside of Planned Parenthood.

00:22:53.920 So look, a bunch of white people standing out in front of a Planned Parenthood, shaming people.

00:22:59.240 There's nothing Christian about what you're doing. Nothing Christian at all about what you're doing.

00:23:04.040 Nothing Christian or loving or godly about what you're doing.

00:23:06.840 Crazy town. I know I've said crazy about a million times. That's the only way I know how to describe it.

00:23:11.620 Crazy town. The people that he was harassing were doing anything except for exercising their

00:23:16.600 First Amendment rights. And an elected official in the United States of America apparently doesn't

00:23:21.380 think that they have the right to the First Amendment because they stand for something that

00:23:25.140 he doesn't agree with. I'm very sad for all the people that he's representing. He tweeted that these

00:23:30.820 people are Bible bullies. They're misogynists. They're racist. They're bigots. And he's standing up to

00:23:36.200 them. He posted a video of his non-apology in which he pronounces pap smear, like pap smear,

00:23:42.740 like what you put on your bagel. And I just couldn't. I just cannot with this person. It's

00:23:49.260 just terrible. What a disturbed human being who really thinks that he is like the white version

00:23:57.080 of Spartacus. And I say the white version because Cory Booker called himself Spartacus. There's a large

00:24:03.200 group of people going there today, actually, to protest this guy. I couldn't make it. But Matt Walsh

00:24:10.240 and live action will both be there as a worthy cause. I think it's great that they organized

00:24:15.240 this, exercising their First Amendment rights to stand up for something that is good and right and

00:24:19.780 true. This guy was literally, Brian Tams, was literally being a bully to an old woman. And he

00:24:25.680 thinks that he's tough. The Babylon Bee had a funny headline. I just thought about it. I haven't

00:24:30.940 actually seen. I don't have it in front of me, so I don't have the exact words. It was like

00:24:36.020 brave state representative, uh, like stands up for, or like, what is it? Our state representative

00:24:43.540 shows bravery by starting fist fight with a group of nuns or something like that, which is totally

00:24:48.300 something that this guy would do. Uh, but like I said, to defend this stuff, you have to either not

00:24:54.520 think or else, once you think about it, you have to allow yourself to venture into an absolute

00:24:59.680 crazy state of mind in order to justify it. Um, it is, it's really heartbreaking. Now, when you're

00:25:07.780 thinking about all of this and you're like, how the heck can people think this way? Like, it's so

00:25:12.180 backwards. It is so, um, it's so counterintuitive and it's counter logic. It's illogical, I guess,

00:25:20.560 would be the right way to say that or the right way to describe it. What is the world coming to?

00:25:26.880 How can anyone possibly rationalize this? This is the verse, or these are the verses that actually

00:25:32.940 came to mind when I just get so frustrated on Twitter and I'm like, how do people come to this

00:25:38.340 conclusion? But I was reminded of Ephesians 4, 18 through 19. Uh, they are darkened in their

00:25:44.440 understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to

00:25:49.740 their hardness of heart. They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy

00:25:55.740 to practice every kind of impurity. I just think callous and darkened and ignorance and their

00:26:03.000 hardness of heart. Those adjectives remind me so much of the people, maybe not the people necessarily

00:26:10.000 who, I don't know, they think they have good intentions for being pro-choice, but particularly

00:26:15.140 the people that deny that it's a human being. Now, actually I'll just include everyone in this

00:26:20.600 because it's either ignorance or darkness. It's either ignorance or callousness. And these verses

00:26:25.800 actually cover both because of the ignorance that is in them. They have become callous. They're greedy

00:26:31.480 to practice every kind of impurity. These verses so rightly describe people who advocate for abortion.

00:26:38.960 Um, they have become callous. They can no longer feel the things that they are supposed to feel. And

00:26:44.220 their callousness comes in many forms. It's not just, uh, about abortion. It comes in many forms.

00:26:50.060 And of course, in its various forms, it happens on the right and the left, but on this particular

00:26:55.420 subject, um, pro-choicers have become completely callous to the reality of an unborn child, to the

00:27:02.980 feelings of an unborn child, the rights of an unborn child. They are darkened in their understanding.

00:27:08.860 Romans 1, really a lot of Romans 1, but particularly verses 28 through 32, give us insight.

00:27:14.220 And to why people think this way as well, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave

00:27:20.300 them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of

00:27:25.580 unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They're full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness.

00:27:32.860 They are gossip, slanders, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil,

00:27:38.820 disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, or ruthless. Though they know God's

00:27:43.920 righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them,

00:27:49.360 but they give approval to those who practice them. Uh, at the beginning of that chapter,

00:27:54.600 it talks about how man is without excuse because God has shown himself to them through, or shown his

00:28:00.420 divine attributes through creation. And so man doesn't have an excuse anymore. And yet, um, uh, Paul is

00:28:08.280 talking about God's unrighteousness on these people who practice evil. When you don't know God, uh, when

00:28:15.260 you are separated from God, when you are an enemy of God, so you are apart from Christ, uh, this is who

00:28:21.260 we all are. This is the capacity that all of us have. We are so depraved. We go to depths of evil that

00:28:29.580 we can't even fully comprehend without God. And that is what results in that are these crazy

00:28:36.440 conversations about the life of an unborn child and whether or not they should be brutally murdered.

00:28:42.840 That's what happened. So what is the solution? Yes. We push for justice for these unborn children. Yes.

00:28:49.960 We volunteer at our clinics. We donate, we advocate, uh, for life-saving legislation. We help women who are in

00:28:56.360 need. We talk, uh, with compassion to mothers who are in crisis. Uh, we help them, uh, with their

00:29:02.420 children. We help clothe them. We help feed them. And more than anything, we share the gospel. We share

00:29:08.400 the gospel. We tell people about Jesus, these people, especially those who are pushing for abortion,

00:29:12.920 who dehumanize unborn children, they don't know God. They are darkened in their understanding. They are

00:29:18.860 callous. They are ignorant. Uh, they don't know God. They don't know Jesus. And so

00:29:26.180 they give themselves up to every kind of impurity, the Bible says. And so it is our job as Christians

00:29:32.460 to realize that's where their foolishness stems from. That's where their hardness of heart stems

00:29:36.960 from. And the only thing that can change a heart, the only thing that can truly regenerate

00:29:41.400 for good is the gospel of Jesus Christ. And that is our role as Christians. So that's, that's it for

00:29:48.180 today. Um, this would be a good episode to share with your pro-choice friends, particularly those,

00:29:53.620 there are a segment of so-called Christians. Well, there are a segment of Christians who say that

00:30:00.660 they identify as pro-choice. So this might be a good episode to share with them. If you would like

00:30:06.100 to hear their thoughts, they will not like it, but it might start some kind of productive conversation.

00:30:10.900 This is a very important subject for Christians to know about and, uh, to be vigilant about and to

00:30:18.460 be brave on. Uh, so anyway, I hope that you guys have a great weekend. We will be back here on Monday

00:30:24.060 with Theology Monday.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - May 10, 2019

Ep 110 ｜ Crazy Town

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